ZOHRAN MAMDANI Talks Meeting Trump, Mayoral Election, Arsenal

What is it like like you're like you go to the white house right you take a selfie on a plane Yeah No caption that is like Drake vibes a little bit hit the emoji. No you hit the emoji You know what you think of the play what do you think it like what's the game plan there honestly? I knocked out on the plane. I mean you looked like you looked a little bit like That was the joke on the internet like a little bit like you took the add you hit nothing You can say it you look a little bit like you hit the edible before the flight Why would you say 30 minutes? I'm sorry. I don't know Hello, and welcome to a very special episode of the Adam Friedland show I'm Adam Friedland because This is such a special episode. We've decided to release this episode to the public two days early Additionally, we've got to give the boys some time off for Thanksgiving. 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I wasted your time like four days before an election I know we talked about all of our collective pain. Yeah, it's the games on right now. The Northland and Derby's on right now Three oh, baby. You said you've been too busy. You've been too busy Running for mayor to watch the games. Yeah, now you're making me too busy to watch but like we'll get an update if it's for sure This is unprofessional. I thought I'm I got a someone text me Oh shit You need to see this oh No, guys Eyes around are you doing in right here? What I just want to say a massive massive congratulations on what you've achieved The real work now starts now God willing you can achieve Everything that you have I love you to achieve Hey, I need some of that winning all the energy that you've got my friend and get behind the boys It's a long way to go. I already cried. I just have to stay calm back me kill and all the boys Up the gunners, baby. Take it easy and God bless my friend. I Just gotta take do this my boy, my boy I'm just gonna watch it again. Yeah, I just want you Love this man. He's the best guy of all time. I've seen the video where he is Mr. Pigeon. I thought you was dead Okay, here's the problem guys. I don't want to expose you We yeah, just we it's quick. I mean you're right right right. Okay, uh How did I do that I really really bother? I thought something long. I know yeah, yeah, Mr. President No, no, it's not uh, it's not uh, no, how would you do that? I knew that it was gonna be I Love him. I love him so much He's the best guy of all time. You know his background story. He was like a working at a factory Then he tried to get he's like I'm gonna try one more time and then he He went to crystal pals. You got it like I was like the stories I would read when I was 17 and on the boot team of a travel team in New York City What did you play what position did you play rock science? I played up top up top. Yeah, you were not I think I was 23 okay, but you were a striker. Yes. It's there no relation to the number of thank much I see we have like a lot of our brain is occupied by the most useless information related to this to this to this soccer every day I wake up. I think about Sebastian Squallachi. Oh my god Pascal see gone. I think about Marlonshamek Yeah, I what I caught I caught you like I can be a little bit of a politician because I said that I'll speed up I was giving me nightmares and you're like Jackson Heights is in the balance Okay, well, you grew up in the upper west side. Yeah, New York City kid. Yep. Yes, sir. Yeah, where did you go up? Well, we actually we both lived a little bit as kids in Cape Town Yeah, you know the Cape Town. Yeah, wouldn't it? What where did you live in service word? I lived in Oranje Zacht That's where my mom from 96 to 99. That's my my mother grew up in Oranje Zacht Yeah, both my parents are from Cape Town and then I was worried that like my dad was on a list of some sort Because you got to give me more than that. My dad and mom both went to university in London. Okay, we're Jews from Cape Town Okay, and then my they they met in South Africa They met at home in Cape Town. They get they kept getting set up on blind dates and she was like this fucking guy again And then somehow he wore it down and then She they got married and he got a letter to that he was being sent to Angola To the Civil War and so they left they just what when did they call you 82? So I was born in LA Okay, and you've been my dad was on an enemies list because of the part that she yeah, and so I was a kid and then I was there back my my graddies from C point none of the graddies left and Actually, it's still there. Granny is still there 94. She just got a hip. You want to send her a video. Let's do it. Hi. Hi, great. Yeah Congrats on the hip. Congrats on the hip. I promise I'm I don't I'm trying my best in life No, she's very she's very proud of me. I told her I was a mayor coming on And no, no, so yeah, my diva actually was, he was like when I was a kid I used to write of my like assays like who's your hero on my diva, because I connected him, me to my parents, because like it was like, you know, it's an happy, yeah, yeah. So but he went to our synagogue after a part, after you got to jail, he was elected and he was like you got to tell your kids to come back, because we need everyone to build a country. And like my parents' whole generation of Jews, so why are you not following my diva right now? I had to talk to you. And I got this studio, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, you know, I last time I went back was in 2010, for the World Cup, Steve fucking it, to the Jabbalala, was it, was it a notch? Was Ella? Yeah, could you not hear anything? You hated if you're not the one doing it, and I was one of the people there. You got one. Yeah, I brought them back. I brought them back. I brought them back to college. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to a D3 basketball game, my roommate was on a basketball team, and I had the moves Ella, I think I was at Bates College, and I pulled it out and I blew it and the ref stopped the game. You need to fucking stop. Yeah, yeah. And you're like, come on, didn't you see the World Cup, did you see the ball that weighed in all different directions? But I was at the Ghana Uruguay game. No. That's where I cried in public. No. Yeah. Luis Suarez. Asamo Aguyan, dude, I came, guys, this is like, what was the closest? The mayor caring about soccer is, the mayor caring about Arsenal is like Wakanda for me. It's like, I feel like, it's like representations. Do you remember that tweet? You're one of it. I remember your tweet. No, no, no, no, no, no. That wasn't Ruth Konda forever? Ruth, oh my god. You got like, what I met you, one thing that was like remarkable is like, we were talking about soccer in the hip hop. Yeah. And I was like, we are losers. I was like, but I was like, we're the same. Representation matters. We're the same generation, right? It's all to me that my entire life, this is kind of feels like the first time that someone from my generation has ascended to leadership. I guess mayor Pete did, but he was more of a suck up to the parents. You're more of one of us, I think. I don't know. He couldn't laugh at that or he couldn't laugh at that. You're ever you're mad at me? She gets mad at me. He yells at me, Olivia. Can you tell her it's a good example? Anyway. Let's give it up for Olivia, come here, come here. Why is everyone so nervous? That's Monica. That's Amelia. Amelia, sorry. That's Amelia. That's her. Okay. Cut that. Okay. How are you? Yeah. You're you're you're mayoring people older than you. Are you getting angst? Okay. Can you explain to me what is angst stand for? Angle. Someone told me it's did for uncool. No. It's uncle. It's uncle. All right. You have old heads, angst and OGs. Just wanted to make sure. Yeah. You were you were unknown. Like a year ago. Yeah. I mean, I even my friends didn't know what an assembly member was. Yeah. I don't I still don't know. And I don't want to know. In fact, I mean, you're perhaps one of the most famous people in America right now. I mean, it's weird. Yeah. Yeah. Have you adjusted to that? I think I try and spend as much time as possible with people I knew before. Yeah. I was. Yeah. The day ones. Yeah. And I think the nice thing about being an assembly member is I was still working in politics, but I was also walking around my neighborhood like anybody else. Yeah. I mean, I went to. You went to the White House. OK. I went to the White House. I was going to tell you I went to Dwayne Reed, but both of them are true. Oh, yeah. Let's start on the Dwayne Reed. OK. Start on the Dwayne. We went in there. Yeah. Pick up something from the department. This guy in front of us has a packet of condoms and breathments. And he turns around and goes, Mr. Mayor. And he looks in my wife. He goes, Mrs. Mayor. Yeah. And that's our experience now at Dwayne Reed. Yeah. And that's life in a story. Oh, the condoms had. Yeah. I don't know. He was like, Mr. Mayor. I'm about to lose my virginity. Yeah. He left it at that. I would like you to know I'm about to become a man. He just gave the titles. What does this last year feel like? What does the adjustment feel like? I mean, it's to be honest with you, I haven't spent all that much time reflecting on it. You should. It's so go, go, go. You should just work a lot. Yeah. Have you checked the reddit? You sound like the inner voice. Is there a Zora on Mom Donnie Reddit? I don't know. Is there? Probably. I just don't read the comments. No, I always forget to put the extra /r when I'm typing in the URL, so I don't even. What is it like? You go to the White House, right? You take a selfie on a plane. Yeah. No caption. That is like Drake vibes a little bit. Hit the emoji, though. You hit the emoji. You know what I was going to play. What do you think? What's the gameplay in there? Honestly, I knocked out on the plane. You slept. It's a 30 minute play. I mean, you looked like you looked a little bit like -- that was the joke on the internet. I don't know if I can make these jokes. Like a little bit like you took the -- you hit nothing. You can say it. You look a little bit like you hit the edible before the flight. Why would you say 30 minutes? I'm sorry, Mr. May. I don't know. It's like, I don't know. I apologize. You walk it. Like, did he give you a tour of the White House? He gave me a tour of -- What was the weirdest thing he showed you? The oval office in the cabinet room. What's that like? He had to have shown something. One thing weird. I mean, he showed me the -- he showed me the portraits of all the presidents in the cabinet room. Yeah. He saved the FDR for you. The FDR was beautiful. It was really nice. And we talked about FDR for a little bit. And honestly, you don't have -- you don't have the LaGuardia record if you don't have FDR. Yeah. But we talked about that. I walked in -- first you get there, and it's just you alone, and there are two people guiding you through to get to the oval office. They want you to see this room and that room. And then I sit down waiting for the time of the meeting, and in front of me are all these different coffee table books. And one of them is UFC at the White House. Oh, yeah. He's bringing it there, right? I had no idea. But I was -- Yeah. Just flipping through that. Yeah. And so you saw guys fighting each other? No. It was just -- What was it? Of the -- Of like, what the -- Yeah, the octagon is. Yeah, it's going to look like that. How long do you go? No. Can I ask you a question? Like, how did you not laugh when the 130 -- How did you keep the face when -- during the press conference? Oh. Because we were all dying. And we're -- I'm like -- my board -- Zora was like just straight face. He said, "Just told me this." Yeah. How did you keep that face? Honestly, I was just thinking about Michigan City. Yeah. It was like the whole time I was trying to think about the difference between -- If you have a White House that is working towards an affordability agenda or one that's making it harder to live in the city. Yeah. That's kind of what kept -- Do you feel like -- do you feel like, as if -- you know, the President sees your popularity, you know? He loves the ratings. A ton of reporters. You see these. I think -- you handsome. I think he thought handsome. Did you have eyes up here, Mr. President? You were elected because you were trusted on your policies for affordability. Do you think he's maybe a little bit trying to, like, swagger jack a little bit? You know, I actually think there's -- there are a lot of places of disagreement. Yeah. The President. I think one of the things that was remarkable to me is -- I told him that, you know, our campaign started on October 23rd of last year, but the moment when a lot of people -- or not a lot of people -- some people started paying attention -- was after he won the presidency. We did the video on Fordham Road, Hillside Avenue. We talked to Trump voters and we asked them why they voted for him, and it just went back to cost of living and went back to cheaper groceries. And that was a lot of our campaign. And he liked that. It was one intent, right? That's what he liked. Yeah, one intent. He liked it. He liked it. I mean, did you see the guy who has the MAGA from Amdani? Yeah, yeah. And then he did the -- How'd that feel? The MAGA from Amdani? Not bad as. It was wild. I remember it. We were going to step on -- I was going to step on the stage at the Forest Hills where we were doing our rally. Did you think it was a prank? Well, I had a member of the NYPD pulled me aside, and they're like, "I just want you to know that there is a man in your line of sight with a red MAGA hat." Rejected. He's actually sincerely here for the rally. Oh, that's -- So you really had to bring it. You had to do a Trump-style rally for him. You had to really do -- you had to do YMCA. This guy's accustomed to some wild rallies. This guy's accustomed to the stadium full of -- Yeah, it was just me and Elvis Gart Church. Yeah, I mean, somebody from MTV Lebanon. Did you expect him to like you as much as he did? I -- I was trying to prepare for a lot of different situations. I know. It's like when you're on that plane, take that selfie. I mean, that could have gone in any -- that could have gone in any direction. I mean, like, when did that feel best case scenario, or, like, were you like -- Yeah. I mean, it honestly felt like the most productive meeting we could have had. Yeah. I mean, a meeting where we talked about you, Lurp, we talked about, you know, groceries, con-ed, rent, child care. That feels like the best meeting you could have. Yeah. Was it for a Donald Jr. there? No. Did you worry that -- like, to see that was maybe difficult for them? No, I wasn't thinking about that. Maybe he's like, "The hang has just been so bad. This cool guy came." And he's like, "No, I have to go back to these guys." Did he say, "Can you sleep over?" Did he come to New York and say, "You didn't ask me that." Oh, man. I mean, it was one of the most surreal things we've ever seen as Americans. Robin Van Persie against Charlton, baby. What's the score? 3-1. What? Fuck. Who scored? Which Charlton, from halfway line? Oh, did he do the pigeon? From halfway line? No, he was being weird about it. He scored from the halfway line? Yeah, he checked right. Why? It was off his line? Yeah. It wasn't right. It was fall. Honestly, just a great play from that. Why would you say that? 'Cause they're not threatened. They're not threatened. What's what's this time? Okay. What time is there right now? What time is it? Would you watch the 4/4 Arsenal Newcastle? Yeah, we talked about it. It was the worst day of my life This is an interesting moment for us because we have like an opportunity to have like a snapshot of you after this story collection and Prior to the assumption of your of what one of the most powerful positions in America co-host of the show What made you run for mayor? Like what made you decide to run for mayor? I think One of the things was that I was very frustrated with the fact that Eric Adams who was at that point running for re-election. Yeah Was making it more expensive to live in New York City in clear ways that he had direct control over and then pretending like he was just a Pie-stander. He was he would write a letter in support of Khan ad when they want to increase gas By one sixty bucks a month. He would raise the rent more than 12 percent. He would increase the water bill He would but like the conditions for you. I mean for me. You're like this is the type I'm gonna run for it. I think the the The thinking was that I wanted to make a case specific about cost of living. Yeah, and there were a lot of people who looked at And the swing of our politics and thought that the only way to beat someone heading towards the right is to head towards the right yourself And you felt like you were in a win. I felt like I had a 3% chance of it. Yeah, and that's Probably giving me an extra two points. Did you did was there someone that you that you spoke to who said don't run? Oh tons tons. Did your girls say that? No, my wife. Your wife. Oh, you got it. I mean she said your girl. She's always in here She said run She she was down for that was the final decision. You're loud. Yeah, um is she mad at you for working so much? She gets a little bit. She what is she a little bit? She gets no, but it's annoying for her a little bit. She likes you so much Mine is all permission given mine doesn't know, but I think it like to be to be honest with you. It's To meet someone in one stage of your life. Yeah, and then To have your life and their life transform. Yeah What it also just like the the level of love and support it takes from someone. Yeah, I Mean, I would not be able to do this without her. She gets mad at you for working I feel like I feel like I looked into your eyes. I see a fellow fellow fellow brother What was the movie you knew you'd win for the primer? No, the the the primary of the general. I think I got two questions You know the there isn't like a single moment There is the funny thing to me is that in both of the elections from six to nine p.m. I thought I was gonna lose of election day because there was like bad Like exit polling and the general. Yeah, there was a rumor around six o'clock that there were two major Networks that had bad exit polls. Yeah, and that showed Cuomo with an advantage. He started that rumor I mean definitely worked my night. I used to do it in my night primary. I remember Kevin Kevin Elkins. How did you fall for that? I'm such a mark of it Kevin Elkins who was working on Cuomo's campaign put out a tweet like I guess the most important things that everybody had fun I was like oh man This means they know they're gonna win and he's saying that to us. He's at a room full of four guys That is as as the election party. You're in a stadium. You're in a stadium in front of a Dory fan I think you should have looked around. Yeah, but never I mean this is like you know being an Arsenal fan You it's the hope it kills you. It's never done until that is you that it's so much. I know exactly what you're telling me you cannot count it It's a reminder that you're gonna die one day It's like you think that you think that once any any time you think something good is gonna happen It just it just goes away. You have to hold it right. I think it's made us better people though Yeah, I mean, we've had to deal with this appointment for decades I think if we were like Ray Al Madrid fans would be like cheating on our taxes We're like I'm gonna lose forever. We have affairs Multiple failure retractable roof for us. We're like we're like we're like it's gonna all go away So I have to like make make take advantage of the time. I yeah, it means nothing to these people. Okay Wait, what's that? What's the for one as a hatcher? Let's fucking go. Sorry for Christy for one. I started me Wow. 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And it's a crappy time you've made a lot of people feel like inspired Municipal politics and like is obviously messy What balance in your team that you're building right now do you have between the guys that know just like the mud, you know. And then the guys that have the vision. - I think it's looking to combine that in everybody. And I think it's tough because sometimes the more fluency and experience you have in government, the less imagination you have as to what government could be 'cause you've had to deal with its failures for decades. - You've been in the cigar rooms, yeah. - And I think we've made a few appointments so far. The first appointment to me, Dean Fullahann, is the first deputy here. I've pointed him and Elbezgar Church to my chief of staff. Elbe somebody I've known since I've been in office. I hired her as my chief of staff and I was in the assembly. - She's been with you. - From the jump, and she's incredible. And Dean is somebody who'd been in government for 47 years. And he'd worked as a first deputy mayor before, he'd worked as the head of the budget before, he'd worked in Albany. And the thing that I love about him is that he's worked through all of that. And still his orientation is how do we make a no into a how when it comes to any political problem. And that's a lot of people lose that, the longer they work in government. - Do you remember the night Obama won? Do you remember what it felt like? Where America is different now? You feel like to me the first generational talent that's come out of the progressive side of politics. But what we saw was he wasn't prepared that the popularity didn't translate to legislative success. Did you take any notes from that? Did you learn from that? I mean, I'm trying to draw a parallel here. - No, I think the thing, the next challenge now is fulfilling the agenda, this excitement, inspiration, this hope it will carry us through the beginning of the work. And then you have to start to deliver on the work. And I think that is actually what makes me excited is that I actually see a path on each of the three key agenda points. And every time you win one of them, it validates people for believing. 'Cause there are a lot of people who they don't know if they should give themselves permission to hope again because of how many times they've been disappointed. And you have to prove that they were right to believe. You have to give them, when you, like, if we've spent an entire campaign talking about freezing the rent for unsabilized tenants, fast and free buses, virtual childcare, the urgency of starting to deliver on that, it's what makes people understand that they were right to demand more. But is there a balance that you have to strike? Do you have to, like, those people that believe in you, do you feel like there's a necessity to kind of inoculate them? To understand, it's not gonna be overnight, right? - Yeah, and I think that's, you have to be honest about a timeline and that, you know, I'm not gonna tell anyone in the first hundred days we're achieving these three things. But they have to be able to see that you are working towards it and that you can actually deliver it while you're the mayor. And that's, like, I've been a legislator and the legislature, it's an incredible place for where you can craft Bill Ideas vote on them, debate on them. So much of whether or not they succeed has to do with whether the executive wants to implement them. Or you can pass it through both houses and if you have a, you know, when I first came into Albany, Cuomo is the governor. And you knew that the implementation of the law, it could be completely different than what you intended. And now I will be the executive in New York City. And that's also what gives me so much hope is that, you have the ability to follow through on so much of this. And we've been told, again and again, what politicians can't do. It's really what they won't do. And that's why I'm here on the Adam Friedland show. - Yeah, yeah, thank you. There are plenty of ways they can fuck with you, right? Right? And it's not only city hall, it's like, which is, but it's, you know, Albany, it's D.C. And it's like, it's you going out to see the president like showing face and showing abs, maybe? I don't know what you're doing. - I don't know what you're doing. - I don't know what you're saying in that room. I wonder, are their contingencies in place, you know? Are you prepared for the fight? 'Cause they're gonna try to fuck with you. - Yeah. - And you have to be ready for it. - You know, it's the worst job that you have. - I don't think, I don't think it's the worst job. - Why are you, why are you doing this? - 'Cause you get to represent New York City. - No, it's the worst job. You get booed everywhere you go. - I mean, I saw it get booed anyway. - I saw the Blasio get booed at a Paul Simon concert. - No. - And it was like a NPR parent family. They were like, they're like, oh fuck yourself. I was like, what, it's the Mary, you have to get booed. I mean, no, really, what it is. - But that's also what I love about, like, to be a New Yorker, you're gonna hear a lot of people's opinions. Like, I went to the Wu-Tan concert a few months ago. - You got booed? - Well, most of the reception is like, - Great people like cheering, waving, they want photos in this one. - Like, oh, come take a photo of me. I'm like, yeah, what's up, Doc? - And as soon as we take the photo, he pulls out the selfie and then he just flips me off in the selfie. - That's funny. - And I'm like, it's pretty fun. - Respect, like. - You do your bit, though, yeah. He likes you. - That's what my friends love the time. - It is definitely a slog. - You have to do it your way, I assume. - I think a big part of it is you have to, you have to keep yourself through it all. And you have to balance between the demands of what the city will require from you and how you don't lose yourself in the process of it. When I was, when I started in local politics, the first organization that I joined was the Muslim Democratic Hub of New York. And one of the founders, her name is Ali Alatif. She gave me this advice of whatever you do, make sure you can recognize yourself in the mirror at the end of the day. I think that's a big part of how I'm thinking about this. Work as hard as I can and do so to fulfill the vision we've had, not to comport yourself for a box that's being created. - I met Lina Kahn, she was on the show. - She's great. - Just one minute warning. - One minute warning. - And can we get a score update? - 4-1, it's domination. (laughs) - It's domination. (laughs) - Do you ever watch the Fox soccer channel commercials? - No. - They used to have the EPO. - Yeah, yeah. - Just be like. - Yeah, yeah. - On commercials of "Drogba." - Oh, wait. - This description. - We have a page of a man. - That's the DDA "Drogba." - That's the nightmares we have. - You know what? - The nightmare I have is "Didiogba" believe me. - They send her us cry. - Michael Essien's goal. - I guess yeah. When I met Lina Kahn, she was on the show. And like, she's perhaps one of the most impressive. - She's incredible. - She's incredible. And when I heard she was part of the transition team, I was like, "Oh, he's got it." I mean, I genuinely, I mean, I asked her if she's ever lied. And she said, "Well, maybe an elementary school." And I don't think that was true. I mean, I think it was true because what was really effective was that she communicated anti-trust laws in this complex of it a very clear and concise way. It's sometimes a progressives feel like snobs where they're talking to people. - I remember, I mean, when I was running for state assembly, we put together our first bomb card. And I thought it was absolutely fire. And I remember giving it to a friend of mine, Karen McCurdy, who was a great photographer. And she read it and she was like, "What do these words mean?" - Yeah. - Because so much of the time, it feels like we're just speaking to ourselves. - I mean, I think that's one thing that I think is going to be important is like just communicating not above people's heads. Just actually speaking with people. And I think that's the point is to bring people in the politics, not to condescent to them as to why they're not already there. And it's also just much easier being yourself when you're speaking to people. - You're going to get old, you think? You're finished? - Brother. - You see them always, yeah, you're going bald already? - Maybe not already, I've been going bald. - What are you doing for it? - I'm just, I worry. - Did you do it? - Did you do like my noxital? - We could go to Turkey. - That's one place I'll get robbed. - I go ride a class C, you go here, oh, you can't go. - What do you mean? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - We're great. - Adam, we got a rep. - Last question. - Wait, I saw, when I spoke to a leader, she said one thing that stuck with me. And I said like the most powerful companies in the world, the most powerful people in the world are pissed at you. She had like hundreds of op-eds and newspapers. No one knew what the fuck the FTC was. And her response to me was very impressive. She was like, she said like, I said, did you ever clap back her? She looked like confused and she was like, no, I just have to like, I don't know, like win the lawsuit. - Let the work speak for itself. - If you're getting pummeled in the press, like, how are you going to keep your horse bleders on and just focus on the agenda, you know? - I think you, you have to both be responsive, but I think she's right. There's two things she said about that experience that have really stayed with me. The first is that you always have to remember that the opinions that you're hearing, that especially from the wealthy and the powerful, they will always be amplified in a way that working people are not. And if you remember that context, you take that seriously and you also don't think of it as surround sound in the way that it feels. And part of that means getting out of the office, getting actually into New York City, speaking to people, asking them what they're thinking about, what they're worried about. And then the other thing is that every time you win in your agenda, it proves that people are right to believe in that agenda in the first place. You have to both be able to respond to this and never let it distract you from the work that you're supposed to be doing. Because if she wins that lawsuit, then that's the proof. And if we deliver on this agenda, that's the proof. And Bernie talks about the thing that people are afraid of is that the power of example. That's what people are hearing, not that we won't get it done, but that we will. I don't know my phone's on me. You have it on me. You have it on me. You should. Oh, shit. I got it. No, no, no, I got it text. Oh, shit. I got to give you the second time. You were a friend. Shit. Just being right again. Yes. Zoran. No. I don't know. No. Shit. Yes. Zoran. No. No. And the Taj, but I got to go for the beginning. We got to go betty's love and maybe recognize me with this badge and this hair and the Taj. We love to tell you that you guys are going to watch the movie together. We're now, you know, you may be missed with me before, after, half time, but I'm sure that we're winning somehow. Also on Instagram, that being an asshole fan is heavily linked with being a fucking cool person. That my theory is really truly standing right now. I do hate huge congratulations. It's like when an aided rascade tried to test her. It's easy. Even here in Spain, we feel the energy of what's happened is truly needed. I love him so much too. He was a rapper. Needs right now, what the world needs right now and I'm just sending you lots of love and respect from here from Spain. From a big Arsenal fan and former Arsenal player to a massive Arsenal fan as well to you Adam as well. Send you lots of love, big hug and hope to see you guys soon. Oh my god. Enjoy the game. Yes, Laura. I can't believe I did that. I feel like an opera right now. You want a car. I'll take you to the car. Hector, I love you. I love you. [MUSIC] What's the score? 31. Fuck.