ZIGGY MARLEY Took A “Trip To The Moon” To Zimbabwe

Hey, Tripster's, Pashi here, Solo intro today because Sufi is traveling. His brother-in-law actually just made this documentary, I think, series about Rafa Nadal. So he has gone to the premiere of that, which is very cool, Zach Heiserling. Is that dude's name? Who's a great documentary filmmaker? I'm going to try to be less grumpy because the last time I did one of these Solo intro's I got pegged as being a Karen about a couple things. So I'm just trying to keep it a bit lighter, although I will say, last night, 2.45 in the morning, we have a smoke detector in our bedroom and it started chirping and it would beep three times and then it would say, "Clean the alarm," and then it would be quiet for about 30 seconds and then it would beep again and go, "Clean the alarm," and it was very frustrating. I had to go get this little stool out of the closet, stand up. I do have compressed air, proud of myself for that because Mackenzie, my wife, was looking online at how does one clean this alarm. So I sprayed it with that, no luck, kept chirping the dogs. We have a very old dog who was starting to shake. There's a button that said, "Test," and I felt like if I hit that, it was going to just set off the full-on alarm, so I was afraid of that. Eventually, the solution was I had to go all the way down to the garage, get a full-on ladder, come back up, kill the power, and physically remove the smoke detector from the wall. And then I put it under a bunch of pillows on the couch. And I'm just seeing this morning, I was trying to see what was going on when I was up on that ladder and trying to see if there was anything else I could try. Because it was the middle of the night, 245, and it was a bit rocked, totally out of a dead sleep, I put my phone in my mouth to hold it and I cracked my phone screen with my teeth and I'm just seeing that right now, so I'm frustrated by that, and I've already called the smoke detector people, and they're sending me a new one, but no one's going to give me my 245 back. I just had a great trip back east. It was a belated 50th birthday trip that some of my friends threw for me. It was really wonderful. People time in New Jersey, a little time in upstate New York, finished off with a couple days going to visit my parents. Got to see Seth for a night. In upstate New York, he showed up. His wife offered to sort of handle all of the kids and getting them situated on a Friday afternoon so that he could come up and spend a night with me and some of these fellows. And Seth met us on the golf course. He played the last two holes with us, but he and another friend of ours just like jogged out and when you see Seth when he's just completely unencumbered, like there is no more work for the week, he is going to see his kids the next day. Any stress that he might typically have in his life, any handles that stress all very well, I should say. But he was bounding across this golf course with a smile that just made me so happy and then we just had such a fun night, you know, just being stupid, just sitting around, making each other laugh, telling stories. It was really great. So my thanks to Mike Lazaro, to fresh, to straddling, to stanch. It was great. And yeah, then see my parents was great, but you're going to hear more about that on Thursday of this week because as Seth is traveling, my father, Larry Myers, is going to be the guest host on the listener episode. Now for this episode, this was very exciting when sometimes when guests are pitched to us, it is another level of excitement. And when Ziggy Marley crossed the email wires, both Seth and I were very excited about the possibility. And he certainly delivers, obviously, you know him as a musician. He is also philanthropist. He is on tour right now with his new album Brightside. So if you're so inclined, go check him out. I can't imagine it is anything less than a fun, feel good, night out, a lot of outdoor venues for him as well, which feels right for the summer. I also, I saw Florence in the machine a couple of nights ago and she's so good, it was so fun. That was at the forum in LA. And something about live music, you can listen to it at home, you can stream it, but going to see it really gives you that sense of community. And it was a blast. So go out, see Ziggy, but before that, have a listen to this episode. Hello, hello, hello, how are you? Yeah, I'm good all you guys, you guys good, we're fantastic. We're so happy to be talking to you. Oh, I'm glad for talking to you. Yeah, a closer look is one of my, like I watch the closer look all the time, bro. You made my day, Ziggy, he just stills it down. He boils it down. I was wondering what happened to you, whatever, you was off, so you just came by. I know. Well, I, you know, it didn't seem like much was happening in the world, Ziggy. So I thought I would just take a break. It's lovely to see where are you joining us from, Ziggy? I'm in LA. I'm in LA. Okay. That's great. That's great. How long have you lived in LA now? There's no since my daughter is 21 today, so it's 21 congratulations. Yeah. Thank you. Is Shahawav and you go back to Jamaica, Ziggy? Too often. That's what I'm going to feel like it. I usually go back to the like charity work or, you know, some kind of community service. That's what I, that's what I usually, last time I was there, I think it was for the premier at the Bob Marley movie and we did a lot of community service while I was there. So I usually go back to do stuff like that. That's fantastic. Now obviously you grew up, you know, with the, unlike I think a lot of us grow up, you know, you had a very famous musician as a father. Did you guys travel a lot with your dad? You know, but let me get, let me put, let me put that statement in our context kind of cause. So we grew up in a Jamaica, right? So the way we know Bob Marley today is not the way he was when I was growing up. It's not the same level of fame and, you know, like, you know, love and all of that. In fact, some people have a love Bob Marley, you know, some people, yeah, cause it was a revolutionary, you know, so is that everyone liked him. So when we were growing up, it wasn't anything. I mean, it wasn't, we never really feel any special way or acting in special way, especially in Jamaica. I know, you weren't, we never feel special, I don't like that. After he passed away and the film kind of grew and, you know, he's adored by so many people, you know, that's when you kind of sit at type of things start taking place, you know. But he was his, obviously, he was making music all year up, bringing it seems like, is it safe to say you spent a lot of time in the recording studio with your father as a very young person. Recording studio driving to pick up money and fracture the records. He was hustling. He was trying to make ends meet, he was trying to take care of his kids, you know. So he was always like trying like open business and record shop, but it was all based on music. But he was trying to like get ahead, you know what I'm gonna say, yeah. Would you ever sort of travel as a family? Would you take vacations that weren't around his performing or music? Would you ever just like have a quiet weekend somewhere? Was it always music focused? No, no, I mean, vacations that stretch, I would never really take a vacation, but we like, so we live in Kingston, you know, a lot of the stuff happening in Kingston, and we would travel to where in the countryside where he was born sometimes, you know, in the weekends or whatever. That's a little vacation. I would get the biggest trip that I went with him on was actually for the independent celebration of Zimbabwe in 1981, 1980, 1980. That was a great trip for me as a kid, I think I was 11, 11 year old and going to Africa for the first time when it was a whole, like it was a whole revolution, it was so much like change in energy, like it was weird for me, because it was like a revolutionary trip, and I saw the the the the girl of fighters came to the hotel to meet Bob and they were talking, it was just amazing for me as a kid, you know. It's such an amazing thing to think of through a kid's eyes. You know, obviously, he was, you know, that was such a thrust of who he was. So like, was that idea of revolution and what it was? Like was that a big part of your upbringing? Yeah. Yeah. So as an 11-year-old, like, you know, if we'd gone on vacation with our dad and guerrilla fighters and shown up, we would have the same. He defended someone at the airport. No, but was it just normal to you? No, no, because even at Jamaica, they're all at a top, but it's like, I don't know. My father and his group of friends, you know, people around him, they're like, they're rebels. They're rebels. You know, they're rebels. Not with guns. Not with guns or not like that, but with ideas, you know, and like, philosophy and all the more, you know, especially during those days when Jamaica was in a lot of turmoil because of political violence, or what they want to unify the people and because of the politics, the politics don't want the people to unify. So it was like, well, yeah, we're here about this. It was life. It was great though. It was great. Do you remember being excited about, and did any of your other siblings go in the Zimbabwe trip? Or was it just you? Oh, brother. It was me and my brother. Okay. Were you, do you remember the time being excited about it and saying, oh, my God, I can't believe we get to go on this? Yeah. I remember I was on the plane. And I said, my father, this is the biggest joke from the trip, like my father, they always make, when in the back of the North, they would make fun of me because I said, I said, team, boy, this is coming like a trip to the moon. What's a trip to the moon? I don't know. Have I been there before? I've never been there. But that was my comparison to, like, this long flight. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's like a trip to the moon. And then when we got here, so the first, the concert, he did a concert for, it was like dignitaries were there. So Prince Charles was there and the British, you know, it was being getting independent from the British monarch. Yeah. So Prince Charles was the whole thing. So he was performing there. And then there were people outside of the stadium, outside of the ceremony, the official ceremony. And they started to break down the fence they wanted to get in to hear the music. And so the security forces, the tear gas, no, I'm on stage, I'm a butter, and my father's performing and tear gas go off. And it's burning my eyes. I'm a father. Come on, pick me up. You went out talking and put it over my face. I'm a noise and we were kind of to run out there and all of that stuff. And in retrospect, we were so excited. You say he wasn't what he is then, what he is now. But like, you obviously were aware that when he played music, people were incredibly affected by it. I would imagine seeing him through your, through a kid's eyes, you must have been like, wow, my dad is beloved. I tell you the first time, I kind of realized that, right? He put out the album called "Bablin" by Boss. And it's a live album. So like I've never experienced him being on stage with like thousands of people screaming or I've never. So when I was at home with that album and I listened to that album, and I hear like the big roar, I feel so proud, I was like, yeah, that is killing them. I think that was the moment I realized that it was more than just like in Jamaica and it was like a big world thing, you know, that cargo that album because I'm hearing the crowd responding to him on that record, you know? I'm so glad because I feel like if my kids heard of people cheer for me, they'd be like, oh my god. I like that you're proud. You know what? It felt good. Yeah. Do you have your children been, obviously, they've been on the road with you. Do you feel like your children feel that way when they watch you perform music? No. Oh, good. These kids today, these kids today, you know, they're different, you know? Yeah. They've seen it all. They've done it all. Yeah. No experience is like, oh, it's yeah, you know, it's like what age do you think that the sort of the jadedness kicks in because I imagine a kid who's like eight. You can still sort of see you on wonder and then is it when they're teenagers, they've seen it all. Yeah. No, you're right. Come on. Youngest son. He's 10 right now. And he's kind of cool. You know, he's like singing my songs and. And how many is that? How many do you have? How old are you young? I don't have enough. Seven. God see. So that's the thing. I'm only at three. Nobody thinks I'm cool. I got to keep out. The seventh. They say the seventh is the one. Look at seven. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from Shopify. You know, starting something new isn't just hard. It's terrifying. 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It's like a truck stop, but without the trucks on the building. - Okay. - It's like a some guy on the side with a fire and he's cooking. - Okay, great. So on the way to the country, we'd make that truck stop. And that was our first one. And then we'll get to the country and we're just picking stuff off the trees and just hanging out, playing with the kids, playing sports or whatever, you know? Just normal. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're from trench towns, the name of the neighborhood, you grew up in, yeah? I was born in Charlton, in Kingston. - Got it. - And then what point of your life, do you think you went to school in the States for a while? - Yeah, in Delaware, I went for like a year, come up here and through trying to find a living. You know, try to make a better living. - Right, so they picked Delaware. - Yeah, because my grandma, yeah, I'll tell you why. So his mom, my grandma, their family started migrating. - Okay. - And I guess the first one of them migrated to Delaware. So now everybody is migrating to Delaware. - Got it, got it. - That's what my grandmother is. - Yes. - That's what we ended up in, my grandmother was living there. And that's what we ended up in Delaware for a year. My mother was doing nursing and my father was just trying to say if there was any possibilities in America. But he didn't like America. So we left, we came back to Jamaica. - How was, what it was your year of Delaware? Do you have many memories of it? - Terrible, terrible bullying, I got bullied. - Really? - Yeah, 'cause guess what, no, I got bullied in school, but I had fun in this room, I saw snow for the first time. But I'm a Jamaican kid going into an American school. I'm totally official to the water. - Fully. - Yeah. - No, no sata understanding of me to them are them to me. I'm a total stranger. So, a couple kids speak to me a couple of times, but we had fun, you know, we had fun at them. I had fun chasing them around and around and around. - It's very funny to realize that like, maybe more than anyone, like your family has like, changed perceptions about like what Jamaica is and yet they just hadn't done it yet. So you were too early. - Yeah, I was out here at the time. (laughing) - So how many brothers and sisters did you have growing up? - I'm an apprentice sister is that, but I mean, within my mother is one, two, three, four of us. And then my father had some kids outside, some younger kids. We are the oldest ones with my mom. And so we grew up together. That was our household basically. It was him, my mother, my brother and my two sisters. And then later on, some other kids came around and it was cool, you know. (laughing) - Later on. - I mean, my father would take, my father would take us to meet my brother, like driving. That was one of the vacations going to meet the other siblings in somebody's car. - No, a paint a picture for us. What is the car all the Marley kids are piling into to go meet the other siblings? - Volkswagen, VW. - That's kind of what I wanted it to be. - Yeah, that's kind of what I wanted it to be. - It's the yellow Volkswagen. It's that VW that he drives to the countryside all the time. We don't know, we don't drive and we'd stop. Yo, come eat your brother. (laughing) - Were you excited about the trip to go meet your brothers? - No, but no, we didn't know we were gonna trip to meet the brother. (laughing) And then we meet our brother on the trip, you know. Oh yeah, this is your brother. Ah, what's up brother? (laughing) - Did you stay close with those brothers over the years? - Yeah, but we're close, very close, very close. - Oh, that's great. - How old were they, how old were they when you first met them? - They were like little boys, I was like, I was probably like, you know, probably like 10 or, yeah. Nine, eight, nine, yeah. I'm the bigger brother, so. - Yeah. - Some of them were little babies, too. They were babies. - That's good, and you were a benevolent, you were a kind older brother? - No, no. (laughing) I used to beat them up, but. (laughing) - Oh, that's your job. - Now I feel a little bit better about the fact that you got bullied in Delaware. - Yeah, right? - It was karma. (laughing) - We had fun, now you used to talk for them up, I talked for them up. - That's good, you got to talk for them up. - I got to make them talk for them up, so I used to talk for them. We used to rest on Mr. O'Neil. - Were you with the brothers and sisters that you grew up in the house with? Were you the four of you close? - Yeah, my, yeah, my, we used to, that's where we started making music in the house. - Yeah. - Like doing, like doing little concerts from a gun and her friends. - Did you know at a young age, are you like, oh, it always made sense that we were gonna be in a band together? Was that something that? - No, not really. No, I don't think much is in the band sense, but we always used to love playing music anyway. Naturally, you know, it wasn't forced on us. We used to just love doing it. And in Jamaica, we have these, in those, this cultural event is like, independent celebration there, and we used to take part in those kind of performances for, you know, to celebrate the independence. Like with traditional Jimmy can type of songs, you know, like, like, "Holim Joe." I think Harry Belafonte did this one over. "Holim Joe" and the lead team go, "Don't keep on our water." "Holim Joe." It was the first song I sang. It was like that song. - Were you guys looking back? Do you think you were good? Like did your parents like watching you guys do music or were they sort of suffering through it? - No, I don't think I'm really careful with it good. They don't know, I don't think that was the like, if you're good or not. It's just-- - Yeah. - I didn't feel that, I didn't feel that, I didn't feel that. I don't think we were good. Come on, I don't know what we're doing. We're just doing it. - Were you John, drumming? Did you start drumming with your first instrument? - Yeah, drumming, all right. So the first, Delaware, let's go back to Delaware quick, because they're coming to America. I never, we never celebrated Christmas where I came from. Like there was no Christmas. So my first Christmas was in Delaware. Christmas tree, Santa Claus, whatever, supposed to come through the chimney. And that's, I mean, I used to see my father and the band play drums. You know what, my grandmother was married to an American guy, and he, you know, the Christmas thing was big. So my first Christmas gift was Mickey Mouse drum set. - Wow. And that's how I started doing drum, down to Mickey Mouse drum set. And then I got a Batman and Robin thing with a car, and it seems like it was a pretty positive Christmas. - Steve Austin, Steve Austin. - Oh yeah, six million dollar man. - The bionic eye, and you could look through the thing and you could do this. - These, these presents made a big impression on you. - Yeah, it's most real Christmas. - It seems like that was the highlight of the Delaware year, maybe it was Christmas. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was the highlight. - Did you, after you moved back to Jamaica from Delaware, was that somewhere you would go and visit when you still go back to Delaware to visit your grandmother? - Yeah, yeah, we went to Delaware and then she moved to Miami and then we started going to Miami. - Got you. - Delaware and then Miami, yeah, we used to visit Delaware. - Were you happy when you got the news that she'd moved from Delaware to Miami? (laughing) - No, yeah, Miami was more fun, definitely. - Yeah. - It was more fun, you know, we got in the gold carts and more to bikes, and the way we, the summers were fun in Miami. - Yeah. - The summers were fun in Miami, yeah. - Would you go for a whole summer? Was that sort of your summer? - Yeah, we're gonna finally go wild 'cause spend time with Grandma. And by that time, my father had bought her a nice house, you know, because Delaware was just another thing. - Right. - But by that time, my father could afford to get a nice house with a nice yard, and so we kids, we had fun in that, you know? - Yeah, that's fantastic. - Did you have a lot of aunts and uncles back in Kingston? - Yeah, my uncle, yeah, my two uncle and aunt, and they're my age, you know, like all of them. My uncles are like, my uncle was my age, and young, got a younger uncle too. - Gotcha. - Yeah. - And would you, would all the Marlies get together, would you get together with them? Would you have like family reunions? - No, no, no, we never have them that way, but we just, I mean, they're reunions when we see each other. It's not like a-- - Yeah, but not a plan. - No, no, no, it's not a plan like that, no. - What is it like being, obviously, you're from a place that a lot of people go for their family vacations? Like, were you aware that you were growing up in a place that people would come, like tourism was a part of it? - Yeah, I was aware. I think, I think one of the times, I mean, one memory of mine is, they used to have this regular festival in Monte Gobi, Jamaica. My father was on it, going to perform. So we drove down with him. And I think, when I realized this tourist thing, was when we went into this hotel, and you had to give them the money, and then you got little bananas. (laughing) You got a little banana, that's what's their currency in the hotel, right? Then the kind of like, what's the, like, I saw the tourist there, and the little bananas, and they're already sticking my head. Oh, this is what Jamaica, oh, it's these people and the little bananas. (laughing) - Were you, were you, friends, did you grow up with other, like, kids from like the music community in Jamaica? 'Cause obviously your dad was not the only person who came out of that. - No, we had two, yeah, we grew up with, we had some kids that, was like good in music in Jamaica like we were up with all appears you know and my father my mother tried help out the younger generation so there's one kid named Junior Tucker who was great and used to sing this earth with them fire song and I remember like I remember do not show the first concert what they do as a group me and my brother and she says was a concert that my father was also built on oh wow and Junior Tucker was on the concert and I'm like I always remember Junior Tucker you know we it was our first time we did the one song and my father playing but Junior Tucker was a big star in Jamaica kind of the my father because when he did that yeah the people like that scream you know say it was funny to me I'm like Junior to like get more screams on my father's like Bob Marley you know he was kind of funny and he was a kid you know yeah you are not doing it justice I'll tell you that much do not cover that song are you are you're are your kids musically inclined yeah but not you know not like it I don't think they have to be that they're wanting to be in the music my son my son is in college he's in Howard he's a great drummer he's doing jazz music and stuff he's a great drummer and you know they are they are actually they are when I think about it they are in was your dad and where your mom like obviously like did where they sort of did they take your music education seriously was it a lot of like hey kids gather around and listen to this or did you just kind of learn it by being around it learning by being around and then I bought some books and started like learning how to play guitar and stuff like that we did some piano lessons my mother sent us this lady was very you know you know you don't like that stuff in the country it kind of make like miserable you know I don't know they're kind of miserable they have a bad reputation piano teachers did you have a nice piano teacher no no no I think maybe she was nice but I don't know no tell us about her what do you remember about your piano teacher just grumpy you know does grumpy well I mean it was she disappointed that you hadn't done the homework grumpy I'm very you know very strict yeah yeah yeah like and then you like it you come home you want to go relax you off the school you got to go see the piano made it up the stream you got to welcome to see this here and I guess I mean imagine you love your piano teacher because you love piano you've learned how to play piano and then you have to spend your day with kids who one don't want to be there and two are bad at piano I'd be grumpy too yeah yeah when I look back because I also I grew up with my grand aunt and I thought she was grumpy when I look back she was great like when your kids you think I'm grumpy but when I look back she was great yeah no I think that's true I mean again like now I realize you know I'm just like if my kids think I'm grumpy it's like that's because you're around yeah like you're just making me grumpy like I'm a good I'm a good chill guy you should you should see me when you guys are asking me questions what else do you remember did you ever go on vacation to anywhere in the States other than Delaware did you ever go um you know to like New York or anything oh we used to you know when we used to live in Delaware I we used to take the train to New York to visit my grandfather my mother's father was he was a saxophone player he used to live in New York I remember the only thing I remember about that is like he lived right near where the trains run like above you know above the grown trains yeah just I just remember the noise of the train like we're like leaving like spending time with him it's just a I just remember the trains being there as a kid did you think this is cool that the trains you can hear him or did you know that that was no no I tried it was crazy oh yeah it's crazy those people that grew up in New York and can't sleep without a lot of like street noise or whatever if they get to a quiet place they're they're very unsettled but if you go the opposite way it's just yeah yeah yeah and then did you or did your mother grow up in Jamaica yeah my mother bought a cube about grew up in a Jamaica yeah she's okay she was a singer she's a singer too but she should do some nursing and stuff you know did you go did you ever go to Cuba to visit family of hers or had they all left no I think I'm leave yeah yeah yeah I'd never been to Cuba I would love to go to Cuba yeah yeah yeah Cuba yeah where is your where is your mother still around yes yeah my mother still around yeah that's great where is she now she then she in Miami with my sister my brother like a lot of my family kind of settled in Miami for a little bit now that's great is she is she a fun grandmother do you think your kids would say she's fun or grumpy no no she cool yeah I would hope so been cool yeah no she really cool yeah she I don't feel like I'm a lot of our demeanor with me like you know she's a loving woman on charity and she has an aura about her you know that's yeah she really cool yeah hey we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors support comes from first leaf you know guys I like a good glass of wine at the end of the day but I never really know what to buy I'm just I don't know there's something about wine knowledge that has alluded me or I don't have time for it but I do know how to say what I like I like a crisp white wine I like a full-bodied red and usually I just kind of like grab something in a store and I hope for the best but then I found first leaf and honestly it just makes the whole thing so easy because they match wines to your taste and they send them right to your door first leaf delivers premium wines straight to my door every month I answered a quick quiz about my preferences and now they send me 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say them helping people you know helping people giving people money you know some guy come needs help whatever whatever you know so that was example that was set by my parents and so we grew up so when I when I was a teenager when I could when I could have my own money I started doing some of the same things like helping people do like food programs for people don't have food or build bathrooms in community that don't have bathrooms a lot of work and helping individuals out too because that's a big part of it you know in Jamaica like just helping people and so yeah that's all that came about so yeah that's fantastic yeah um you have a new album as well congratulations yeah yeah thank you if I new album I couldn't listen to it yet because it's not it's not I mean again I shame on me but like it's it's out on vinyl digital in a couple of days these are it is it is it is it is it cool to still have see a vinyl album like that you made yeah no yeah it is cool it's one of the coolest things like for us to hold it it is it is cool nostalgic about it that I know. I've lived in that world. It's like when I lived in that world and I live in this digital world. So I know the difference. Some kids grew up. They just started in the digital world. They have no idea of that world. So they know I have no references or that shit is much better than this shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, but no. So this, the new album is really cool for me because I did some things differently. One of the biggest things I did was I changed the frequency that we tuned to. That the instruments are tuned to. So the standard tune in everything that you listen to nowadays is what we're called 440 Hertz. I decided I don't want to be different. I don't want to be like everybody else. I'm going to tune in 432 Hertz, which is a thing I've been exploring for years. Music. It was different. What's what's up? And this 432 Hertz. What is said about it is that it resonates at the frequency closest to how the human resonate or we as human beings resonate. And it's using meditation. It can be used for healing. So I tried it out. I like it. I like what feel. And I just decided that this record is going to be in 432 Hertz. Can you tell I'm assuming you work with producers you've worked with before, but how is it greeted when you let people know we're going to be doing it in a different way like this? So let me tell you, I'll tell you exactly how. So I walked in right, the band was in there and I walked in and said, everybody we're going to tune the 432. And then it was first like, they never understand what I'm talking about. And then when they didn't understand or like, oh no, my tuner doesn't do that. My keyboard. I was like, let's get the tuners that do that. Let's get the keyboards that do that. And then since on this record, since we're doing like trying to use real instruments, you know, like a real, a B3 organ, for example, we were like, hope we're going to tune a B3 organ to 432. That's impossible. And then some guy came in and he was like, oh, I can do it. And then we're like, I'll laugh at his change of voltage. You know, and it worked. It was in change of voltage. Like, my scientist, we went through some holy but things to like get everything to 432 words. Was your band like enthusiastic about this or were they rolling their eyes? Yeah, I think they never really understand what it was. What it was or why? Like what a guy said, I can fix the organ where they're like, oh, dude. Yeah, no, we were like, coming in now because the organ is very, so it's first thing. It's an old technology. And, you know, but this guy was, he knew about it. He knew about it. So yeah, no, the band, they never know. But I think, you know, we really, we did it live before the went industry or been doing it live. And I think there's really a different vibe to it for us. That's very cool. I mean, we're sensitive to it because we've been playing music and frequencies. So we're sensitive. But I feel like frequency is much. And I think with all the world's tears right now, and music is a very powerful tool. I think if I would, I would say it's like, I said it's like, if the music were the size of it, you know, let's change the frequency. Maybe it can affect the population just like it does know in four or five, but in a more, you know, in a more communicative frequency that brings harmony, it might have, it might have something to do with it, you know. So it's a good idea. We should all consider changing. And we'll have to get the number of your organ guy so we can share it. I know, my friend Ziggy knows an organ guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about vacations that you've taken with, with your wife and your kids? Do you ever, do you ever go somewhere to just get away from it all? Yeah, my wife insists. Yeah, all right. Good for her. Jeans is vacation. I'm like vacation. Vacation from me is not really vacation. It's like, I got to do a lot of stuff. Yeah, on vacation. So you're not as, you're not a sit on the beach guy. Yeah, I'm a sit on the beach guy. Okay. All right. I'm not going out to the breakfast part and the next. Oh, yes. You want to do, yeah. Yeah, I just want to do nothing, but I just want to do nothing. Yeah. Well, that's what vacation is. You know, we love Hawaii. We just came up from Hawaii. We love Hawaii. I like going to Hawaii. Hawaii is like, I think this one piece I can like, relax. Yeah. It's beautiful. Do your kids get along? Yeah, my kids don't get along. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. I mean, the little one, a little annoying to the older one, but yeah, that's a rule. You get to play that role too. Well, I do that for Seth. Yeah. Still, still 100% still. What was the first time you brought your kids out of the country? Do you remember? Yeah. The first time I took them to Jamaica. Yeah. And did they, did they love it? Yeah, man. I'm like, Jimmy come on. Like we stop. We give them car. Jimmy, come on. We give them stop. We drink coconut water. That's at first. They never drank coconut water. What about real coconut before? Yeah. So that those kind of little experiences is so unique for them. You know, like it's funny. In America here, they eat, they eat chicken, but they never really seen a chicken. It's true. They go to Jamaica. They see chickens running around. Yeah. Yeah. You can make that connection much easier. Oh, it's that. I'm eating that. Yeah. Yeah. That's a chicken. That's what chickens are like. It's really like. You know, it is, it is so great talking to you. What a delight to meet you and speak to you. Congrats on the album. But we also have a speed round questions for you that Josh is going to ask. All right. Here we go. What's the speed round? What am I supposed to answer faster? No, no, we're going to ask fast. You take your time. Oh, okay. Yeah. But it goes like this. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing adventurous or educational? Relaxing. Yeah. I thought that was whether that was our bounce on you. What is your favorite means of transportation? What is my favorite means of transportation? I like, I don't know. You know, I like airplanes. Yeah. Yeah. I like airplanes. I like flying. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? Good question. I don't know. The first thing comes to my mind. I don't know, yeah, sure. Okay. Great. Yeah. First time you're the first one to give that answer. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Well, I'm about Steven. My young up. We'll go up together. Yeah. Okay. How many, what's the year gap with you and Steven? Well, four. Okay. Okay. Four years. Yeah. Good, good, good. What is your dream destination for a family vacation? Africa. I've been taking the kids to Africa yet. I want them to often. If you took them to Africa, yeah, how many days do you think would it be like a three-weeker, two-weeker? I was going to say one week, but I said two weeks. The most. After a while, vacation to get too long is like, yeah, you would just felt bad. You were shamed because the white guys were like two weeks, three weeks, you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was going to say. You were from from Kingston, Jamaica. If you had to get more families to come visit Kingston, what would you tell them about that city? Kingston is a real experience. It's really people. You're going to feel like, you're going to feel like I really press because I would treat everyone the same. There's no hierarchy. So I feel like that is a real piece of the real people. And you can just feel like you're a part of the community basically. They would really, you would really be, people come to Jamaica, they go down into the Kingston, like the worst part. You know, something I go down there and I see some people from Norway. Why are you living in Kingston? You know, but the world is like, they've welcomed people, you know? So we're welcoming, you know? Yeah. Oh, that's great. And Seth has our final questions. Ziggy, have you been to the Grand Canyon? No. Do you want to go? Yeah, but I'm not in a rush. Man, after my own heart, it's been an after, it's not going on hard. It's not going anywhere. But I'm like, oh, I got to go see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love everything about that answer. You're also going to be busy this summer. You've got 20 tour dates between like, June 19th and July 22nd. You're doing 20 shows. That's going to be some work. - Do you love the road? Do you love being on the road for music? - Yeah, I like playing music. I love being on the road. I mean, after a while, it's when you come back after off the road then you feel like what happened on the road? Is it like, how you're fake, you know? But when, yeah, I do like being on the road. I like playing music for people and I feel like, you know, I feel purposeful because like the words that I'm singing and I feel like people listening more and all too. Number four, the words I'm singing have meaning. You know, so I feel like, I'm not just doing like an entertainer like going out there to, I feel like there's a really purpose then what I'm doing. So it helps me to keep going on that, you know? - That's fantastic. Well, congrats on the new album. Can't wait for the tour. Thank you so much, Ziggy. - All right, well, good for talk to you guys. - Thank you, thank you. - Yeah, thank you. - Bye now. - Bye, bye. ♪ Only trips with the miles ♪ ♪ Brothers and family trips ♪ ♪ With the miles ♪ ♪ Brothers, here we go ♪ ♪ Growing up by Marley ♪ ♪ Wasn't the Bob Marley we all know ♪ ♪ Hustle land to get ahead ♪ ♪ Right and musically and all the shows ♪ ♪ Ziggy went all the way to Zimbabwe's independence ♪ ♪ Herd some tunes ♪ ♪ The flight was so long ♪ ♪ It was so long, Ziggy said ♪ ♪ It was like taking a trip to the home ♪ ♪ Hop inside his dad's Volkswagen ♪ ♪ Bella Fonte sing and hold on, Joe ♪ ♪ Pull up, there's a little boy ♪ ♪ There's Ziggy's dad would say come meet your bro ♪ ♪ Cram on, move down to Miami ♪ ♪ Got to drive go cars and motorbikes ♪ ♪ Piano teacher was too grumpy ♪ ♪ Looking back she probably was all right ♪ ♪ Banana money was kind of funny ♪ ♪ To rest down ♪ ♪ Crap on him next to the train tracks was so loud ♪ ♪ First Christmas in the US saw the snow ♪ ♪ Mickey Mouse drone said ♪ ♪ Was the best gift you gotta go ♪ ♪ Stand away ♪ ♪ Stand away ♪ ♪ Stand away ♪ ♪ Stand away ♪ ♪ Stand away ♪ [MUSIC]