Zaslow Hates Gus Johnson | Hour 2

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I did not think that those two people sounded alike before hearing from Luke Windsor. You know, sometimes I do wonder, am I Barack Obama or am I Kevin Harlan live from the United Center here in Chicago where the Minnesota Timberwolves are taking on the Chicago Bulls, which, of course, I know all about Chicago. Did you guys think that Indiana Ohio State was made better by Gus Johnson just screaming throughout it? No. See the sideline throw over the metal. No. You don't like Gus Johnson? No. Really? I'm really Gus, man. I mean, calls feel goals good when they're not good. Calls touchdowns, touchdowns, when he's out of bounds. Calls everything over the middle. Everything is screaming. No. Gus Johnson makes everything better. No. I hit a corner three and he'll say, from the corner of Stockton Way and Cormalon Drive. Ha ha! From downtown, Iowa. You hate Gus Johnson? Who said hates? Like, why did you do that? Because of the disgust on the disgust. I think you did use it just at it. He said hate. Yeah. What was that? I don't enjoy hearing him do a game. No. No. So you hate him? No. I did say that I hate him. All right, Dan. He hates him from now on. That's what he's running with. No. It's just screaming. It's just screaming every play. It's all it is. And by the way, I'm right. Excitement, man. Okay. That's excited. All right. He wants to share his joint, his enthusiasm with you. You low life was sitting there and want to be angry as you're watching games. No. That's the whole point. I don't want to be angry while I'm watching the game. You're getting angry at Gus Johnson? I didn't think it was possible to be angry around a Gus Johnson broadcast. I didn't think it was possible. Okay. And I don't hate anyone. You're belligerent right now. You have discussed on your face. You do. Stop yelling at me. Does he have a joy to these? I want to get to something that happened after the BYU Noter Dame game in a second. But I need some clarifications from the group here on Is Greg Cody appearing on our show this week? I'm winning. Is he boycotting the show? Because he's mad at me. And I was surprised at how mad at me. He was. And I don't know what you guys know here. I know what I saw in the program and you guys are hucking it up and laughing. And I'm like, this guy is upset. And you're not doing it any better than you bring David Samsung in with his fake legal advice. Then you bring it Samsung. I mean, Zaz doing this fake judge thing and everyone's piling on all Greg Cody. And I said, who's out here looking out for Greg Cody? Nobody. Shame on all of you for picking on an old man who had a written agreement with this man right here, this man down Levitard stands before us with a written agreement saying the exclusive home of all his writing shall be on the great Cody sub-second. What does he do? He sells them down the river immediately. Why? Because Greg wasn't paying attention during the segment. Wow. Hello. I'd like to introduce you to Greg Cody. He doesn't listen when he's not being talked about himself. He was being talked about. And we were talking about his sub-stack and just to give everybody some of the backstory. Have you spoken him this weekend, by the way? Well, I had to go to what was a retirement party to him and when I got there, he waved his hand and the back of his hand at me. He was not happy to see me there. I had to brave a whole lot of traffic. He is genuinely furious and he's threatening to boycott the shows. This week, Mike was worried because he says we've got some plans with him outside of the show this week that he's participating and just so that the audience knows what the backstory is here. The written agreement that I mean has mentioned has not been published yet in any form, any place to reveal that it is a written agreement. That column, I was informing Greg for the first time in that column. He did not ask me for that. I was informing him that that would be the exclusive home of my writing. But then Tony said what about me? Will you write for my sub stack and I said in front of Greg Cody, I said that yes, I would that he hadn't asked. Boom, there he said it, right? He said, you're talking about him. He's paying attention. Tony says what about my sub stack? You think Greg Cody's going to keep paying attention to Tony's sub stack? He doesn't care about that and you know what you did. You know what you did, Dan Levertard. You renigged. And when you renig, you know what that makes you. I don't like this. Someone who renigs, that's right. You better be careful. I don't like that. HR and the tire bring us to sit right there. I can feel the fear from everyone around here right now. I want to get back to the story though. Is he coming in or is he not coming in? Where are we? Who is he relayed what to because he was threatening to boycott the show this week because I did write one thing for Tony. But then Tony, there was a second article that appeared on Tony's sub stack and it was with a different byline. I think it was Land Debotard. It was the name of the byline. And I did not write something for Tony though I did find it suspicious how vigorously he was interviewing me for something about my love of baseball. And then the next thing I see is something appears on Tony's sub stack written by Land Debotard. It's a sub stack. Love that guy's work by the way. You guys ever read that Land? You know about the Land man? So who's in the right here and do you guys expect Greg Cody tomorrow or do you not expect him? You boys better clean it up though. There are things that are happening that are bigger than both of you and every time that this is Greg Cody can just decide he doesn't want to come into work because his feelings are hurt. Let's be pros. Well, the written agreement is only ratified when it's published, correct? It was in published. Nobody has seen this agreement. That's not how agreements work. I don't have to publish my contract to let people know that I have a contract. All I need to do is have the rewriting in my possession. If he can produce it, a timestamp date stamp document in which Land Debotard claims exclusivity to the Greg Cody podcast, a sub stack, excuse me, featuring Greg Cody, then that's the agreement. He doesn't have to put it on the internet. He's got it in writing. When did you give Greg this column that you wrote? Two weeks ago. Have you ever written a column and two weeks later, it's still not out? Just magazine stories. Long time ago, I used to write magazine stories that would take a couple of weeks to publish, but that is not the way where you won't normally do things. What's a magazine? Put it on the poll at Levitard show. What's a magazine, yes or no, because yes, those have died as well. But I was under the impression that the agreement cannot be put in place until someone other than Greg Cody has seen it. It's got to be Greg Cody, and there has to be a second witness to this agreement, and I'm going to say again, this is something I volunteered to Greg Cody, the part that there were a whole bunch of people at this retirement party, okay? Pull a surprise winner, Dave Barry, came up to Greg Cody and said to him, "I think you're making a terrible mistake." And here's the terrible mistake that I think Greg Cody is making. I'm doing this for free. I'm not getting anything out of this. I'm just doing him something that is a solid to bring attention to his sub-stack. Why wouldn't he want a teammate, Tony, to also have attention brought to his sub-stack? Why would he be so selfish that he would not allow me to do this one or two times for someone else before I become his exclusive home when he publishes what I've written? Hey gang, let's take a time machine back. First and years ago, we're a young Daniel Levitard scared at his first job at the Miami Arrow. Doesn't know which way is up, which way is down. And then here comes why is Greg Cody? Not because of some… Compensation package or whatever he says hey, this kids got talent and I'm gonna look after him and show him the ropes and Give him the confidence that he needs to become the great writer that he becomes and guess what happens to that young Daniel Levitard He grows up and he becomes more popular and he gets a TV show in the radio show and all that stuff and all great code He's there cheering them on the whole time and what is Dan Levitard to do to pay him back Complain about not getting paid for a sub stack. No, that's not there. You out there. No, I'm not that's not the part I'm complaining about the part. I'm complaining about is that he doesn't want to share me with a teammate That's the part. I'm complaining. What a Tony done. I didn't go to Greg Cody's mortal enemy I get I went to a fellow coworker here who in front of Greg Cody requested the help. It's like he gave it to Dave Hyde Yeah, yeah, that would have been fighting words right there But doesn't that matter like does it not matter at all that Tony is a teammate of Greg Cody's It seems like I didn't I obviously didn't think I would be doing something that would fill him with such rage that at his retirement party He would give me the back of his hand when I got there Tony Gets your work and puts it out Cody gets your work and is sitting on it you He he's literally wasted your time so far Guys, this is a very complicated thing the internet isn't just just posted You got to have times and windows you're writing trends sometimes. 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You have messed with me David and now you're messing with me and I'm more dangerous pal This is the down levitar show Did you guys see how bad AJ Brown was yesterday? They kept throwing to him. They targeted him a ton and he seemed like someone who couldn't catch the football They badly need him to be somebody who can catch the football drake May has fixed his problems Rabel said after the game that they were lucky to win that game against Against the jets and AJ Brown. I think I don't know how many drops he had But they targeted him a bunch. What did he end up with? Did he end up with just two catches? Three catches something Observed like that and you know my theory on huge-bodied wide receivers playing on the outside Your shelf life is a little shorter DK Metcalf is also falling off a little bit this season You say that Matthew Barry gave you some good advice telling you to take Bernard But he did have didn't DJ Metcalf still have 11 games. Yeah, he had a game. Yeah, but yeah, he's had a tough first season So who who are the big-bodied exceptions to that because what Mike is mentioning the the route running and all of the strain on the ligaments like all time you're talking about the limbs. Yes, the who is the big physical Tellers who lasts a ton of time to you prop. Yeah, but even Calvin Johnson was like I'm out It's it's just harder to do when you know You're falling down a lot and that's a lot of weight falling down on your frame I imagine that Pukinakua who has had the first five years of his career have been more prolific than any wide receiver ever I imagine that the way that he plays football will shorten his career even though he's not what you would consider One of these big-bodied types. He just plays such a physical brand of football that you're gonna clearly be somebody Who wears down over time? I saw By the way, this is not unique to just big-bodied receivers breakdown It's a very physical sport and you have to be basically a hall of famer to To have an illustrious Davante Adam's type of career. It's a very physical sport. Can you guys look up for me? I can't believe I'm forgetting this because it wouldn't have been Mike Evans somebody passed Torello. Oh, it's always keen in Allen It was keen in Allen yesterday who passed Torello and he's another big-bodied type who is uh I think you don't think of him as a big body. I'm talking about I'm talking about guys who are Heavy for the position. I'm not talking about tall guys. I mean Mike Evans is a big body But he's not ever going to be confused for a body guy talking about guys that are carrying around like an extra 45 pounds of muscle Oh, wait a minute. You're making a distinction. I'm not making because I think of keen in Allen and Mike Evans As AJ Brown even though AJ Brown is more sculpted out of right don't because I have eyes and I've seen them without their shirts Like you're talking about guys you look like bodybuilders. I'm talking about Roy Williams I'm talking I'm talking about DK Metcalf type. So I'm talking about T.O. He is the outlier But like David Boston you have these guys that dominate the sport But it's a shorter window of time because their frame is carrying around so much extra weight Remember how exciting it was when the dolphin's traded for David Boston So you're not putting Brandon Marshall in this group or you are putting Brandon Marshall in Marshall? I guess could be Discussing there and he was probably one of the outliers, but no like I'm talking about guys that look So different at the position. So Kenan Allen does not look different from other guys at the position I'm talking about guys that have tight end bodies. Okay, but oh man. Oh man So you're doing muscles instead of thickness and I it's exactly what I'm doing because muscles are or heavier and Kenan Allen's neither muscular nor thick He's just a taller guy at lebertard show is Kenan Allen thick at lebertard show. How many sees well? You're gonna take thick now. He's older I've always thought of I thought that both charger receivers that Justin Herbert started with were both Mike Williams and him and Mike Williams is another muscle guy Mike Williams the Mike Williams. That's no longer in the league. Yes I'm thinking about Vincent Jackson rest in peace guys that are just really muscular at the wide receiver position. You're really just doing arms Why is this so hard to grasp? I'm doing guys that look like crazy physics that are just like really muscular They they have muscles on their lower body too. They don't skip like days. You're doing guys with muscles That's what he's doing Kenan Allen has that shoulder you guys have seen him shirtless too since Mike is giving you his bonafide's on people He's seen shirtless when Kenan Allen was shirtless If you can find the video of that of Kenan Allen shirtless so that people can see that he's got some sort of thing Have you seen this out? He's got a flank of some sort on his right shoulder That looks like the beginning of an alien head that is popping out because Because that sport does terrible things. Why is that to the body's Yeah, I think that's a dislocated shoulder right that's something that that that was a dislocated shoulder at some point Is the word vestigial am I saying that right? That's smaller. That's that's too large to be a vestibule. Is that what you're looking? Is it a vestibule? It looks like a tiny human is trying to climb out of his shoulder Just the skull by the skull yeah, just like rock it up trying to just pop out of the top It's it's not it's not a normal free your mind like quaddo but on the shoulder That's an old reference right there. You're doing you're doing total recall running You're doing 1990 Arnold Schwarzenegger movie is what you're doing if you want to see the quaddo popping out of Kenan Allen shoulder and you want to see how the colts respond after firing Chris Ballard Get your friends together get tickets to watching Indianapolis Colts and all the other teams in the national football league tell your friends It's game time download the game time app green account and use code Dan for $20 off your first purchase terms apply again Create an account and use code D.A.N for $20 off and see that thing growing out of his shoulder in person I don't think game time has ever been advertised quite that way. I mean, what happened this weekend with Matt Ischbjah, the owner of the Phoenix Sons and the back-and-forth that I guess he triggered with Kevin Durant, who doesn't mind public fights at all. What was the starting point on what Ischbjah did and why he did it? Well, the starting point was an interview he did on CNBC and I think we have the tweet or the clip, I don't know which way. We have tweets. Okay. There we go. So, he said, and you can read it right there because my eyesight is shot, but basically- So Kevin Durant says, #BlameKD even though KD stayed on top of his game at 36 and got you back this culture, you love so much. Matthew acts like I got arrested for DUI or something back to thread. That's after Matt Ischbjah's interview said, "I kind of just threw money at the problem when talking about acquiring Kevin Durant." That's true. He's bringing in major super talent players like Kevin Durant doesn't necessarily lead to championships, right? And so Kevin Durant here sees this quote- What was wrong with what he said there? Well, I think the implication is that it's Kevin Durant's fault. No, that's not the implication. It is kind of because here's a deal. Why didn't the sun's work, right? It's a very simple answer because the NBA collective bargaining agreement makes it very difficult to improve your team if you spend past a certain limit and Matt Ischbjah didn't understand that. It was a financial restriction that made them fail. It wasn't Kevin Durant, right? They could have spent that money on almost any three players and it still would have had the same problem. So Durant is sitting here and saying, "Wait a second," right? They ask you a question, why didn't- like, what have you learned or whatever? Why is my name coming up? Why am I the name that comes up in this? And I understand why Durant would feel a certain type of way because he could have easily answered that question without ever bringing up Kevin Durant by name or by explaining it's not about the players, it's about the rules and our ability to work underneath them. So you think if Ischbjah would have said, instead of saying bringing in guys like Kevin Durant, by bringing in high-priced players, I thought that was going to lead to championships, you don't think Durant takes the same offense? Because if he had said spending top heavy on my roster isn't the way to build championships, I don't think Durant would have taken the- He would have come out tonight and know you're talking about me. I don't think so. I think it's very obvious and by the way, Durant's response, Dan, that's not just a, "Hey, I've been a good guy and show up and why are you guys putting it on me." His response is very pointed because Manishbjah is saying, "Oh, how much he loves a culture now and all that stuff." He's like, "Yeah, I mean, you guys are acting like I came in here and I was getting DUIs." What does that mean? He's talking about Dylan Brooks, who is a guy that the Suns and Manishbjah prays a lot for the culture change that he's been for that organization. So what KD is trying to say is like, "The guy that you're praising a lot, he actually brings baggage to the table. Meanwhile, all I did was show up and do my job." And Dylan Brooks wasn't going to let that slide, Dan. Dylan Brooks then went on his Instagram and wrote, "Thanks, Matt." You know, HBIA. Clean it up that stench in the locker room before I came #Culture. I'm looking forward to Suns rockets. Kevin Durant is in late career persecution mode and will hear the slights whether they're there or not. But in this instance, if you're talking about the mistakes that HBIA made and throwing money at a problem, there's one name I can think of who he's talking about there. That the audience is going to receive as that's a criticism of there's not even a second name. I'm not doing Bradley Beale there. I'm not doing any other name other than Kevin Durant. HBIA tried to make a splash as a new owner by winning the sweepstakes for Kevin Durant. I understand why Kevin Durant takes that as you're naming me while not naming me. And I understand why HBIA also says, "Hey, I didn't blame you. I wasn't blaming you. I didn't say your name, but who else is it going to be Bradley Beale?" Well, he did say his name for one and for two, again, the idea isn't about throwing the money towards a certain player. It's about having a top heavy payroll. That's what he did. But like to me, that has nothing to do with the names involved as everything to do with how your salary is structured. That was why they didn't win. That's why they failed is because they didn't have a proper regard or respect for the second apron and the restrictions that come along with it. They were the greatest disappointment in the sport after everything that HBIA did, which was an assortment of new owner mistakes. Mike, do you seem distracted back then? Yeah. I'm getting the whole Jalen Hurts reporting over the weekend was weird. Shepter once reported that they're not giving any consideration, putting him on IR and Nate. Hours later, he put on IR and Michael Robinson had a regrettable moment on television. But this has been something that Jalen Hours has been dealing with with some time. Per Tom Pelicero, Jalen Hurtz was told by doctors to not sleep after his initial diagnosis of a superficial blood clot while in London. Hurtz stayed awake for roughly 36 hours before starting against the Jags. Remember, he made plays down the stretch. So it was too dangerous for Jalen Hurtz to fall asleep, but apparently not dangerous enough for him to play a football game. So I've told you guys the story before from Hall of Famer Jason Taylor, who was in such pain after a game that he was taking pain medication and trying to rest/sleep while standing up on a staircase. So he was sort of standing up on the staircase and trying to rest because they told him not to fall asleep, and that evening he called Dr. James Andrews and said, "Look, I'm having some real trouble here with what it is that I'm dealing with." And he's like, "You need to get here immediately." You need to get, and he's like, "What do you mean immediately? I'll just, in the morning, I'll handle it." Is that okay? And he's like, "Yeah, but you won't have a leg if you wait until the morning. You need to get here. You've got compartment syndrome. You need to get here immediately." And then Jason Taylor later on, played with a catheter because these guys are crazy and warriors don't think of consequences. He played with a catheter, a pick that ran into his heart that was concealed from the opponent and played an entire game that way, even though you were messing with his heart. He's a warrior, but God damn medical staff, coaching staff, come on, man. Come on. That's fireable. Yeah. And it's easy because considering the eagle season this year, if he knew that information, he still played him. That's fireable. That's kind of way, I mean, I don't want to say the report's not right, but I don't know. We believe that actually happens. He's forced to stay awake 36 hours and then play football like that happened, really. Well, you're more reporting on it, I guess, but they are practicing medicine after all. And remember how the Chris Bosch blood clot thing started. It was reported as a calf strain. These things aren't easy to detect and diagnose immediately. So I can see how they get themselves in this situation, but if I tell you, just in a black and white fashion, it's too dangerous for you to sleep, you're going to play football. Against the violent Jags, defense, it's anybody, Dan. Yeah, agreed, but I wouldn't do it either way. I guess the dolphins I wouldn't play. Well, maybe, okay, I take that back. All right, I went too far. No, no, no, no, I've gone too far. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. If you thought about trying therapy with our longtime partner, BetterHelp, insurance options may now be available nationwide, with an average copay for eligible members of just $23 per session. World mental health day may have passed, but your mental health doesn't suddenly stop mattering after October 10th. Stress doesn't check the calendar, burnout doesn't send an invite, and that thing you've been overthinking? Yeah, of course, it waits until 1147 at night to suddenly become the most important thing in the world. 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Find Manscaped and the Lawnmower lineup today at Target and CVS down lebotar. God, I would love to see that interaction. Lord, let there be a day. Hey Oprah, let there be a day. Oh, the color purple. I like these glasses. She would see these glasses. She'd be like, this is someone I'll take a picture with. He looks sophisticated. I love big game, not a big game. Jonathan Sassalo. She would say that to me. Instead of me having to go up to her and say I'm a big fan, she's like, I love big deal, not a big deal. You're a huge fan of your work. Yeah, one time or two time championship broadcasting. Two, Oprah, two. You think Oprah would say like, hey, nobody book club? And I would say yes, I do, Oprah. Yes, I do. Have you seen weapons? Oh, the kids. This is the down lebotar show. The part though that I want to examine is what you do in the case of Chris Bosch. I've told you guys before having done some reporting on this that the doctors of the Miami Heat and the NBA, all of them said, Chris Bosch can't keep playing. We cannot have the liability that risks him dying on the court. But Chris Bosch found a doctor who said he could play because he wanted to play. We're talking about Jalen Hertz right now from a career threatened perspective. And I think we need to be talking about it from a life-threatened perspective because I don't believe that that's a sport that you can continue to play with the dangers that we are talking about here. Tom Brady got his job in the NFL because Drew Bledso's lungs were filling with blood after a hit that he took and Drew Bledso lost his job on the spot. Everything about the culture, everything about the economy that is around these guys puts pressure on those people to play, no matter how little sleep they've had, no matter the amount of pain they're in, to use medication, to numb the body's screaming, even though the screaming is the siren and the warning. So I just don't think that this should be discussed as a football issue. It should be a life issue. But Mike, you said Michael Robinson had regrettable comments. What were those comments? Zaz, you played the clip for me during the break. I'm going to paraphrase a little bit, but he was kind of getting at, well, this Jalen Hertz superficial blood clot. Have you Google superficial blood clot? It's really not all that serious and maybe Jalen Hertz doesn't want to be there as soon as it goes. He was saying it's an excuse that you bark, barkly and Devonte Smith are out. I'm not going to allow you to blame me for how we're going to do it. A lot of regrettable things and maybe it's too kind to say this is explainable by something pulmonary embolisms that are difficult to diagnose and treat initially because it could always be a lot of things. But that sports market, that position, a guy that's played well in two super bowls with a lot of, with the walls closing in on him. A lot of bad takes were flying and this seems like a regrettable instance in which he was allowed to play with it because I didn't fully know what was going on. It is a life thing to high profile things happening basketball with Chris Bosch and Victor Wembenjama. Victor Wembenjama is one clot away from having to reevaluate his career entirely. If he's put on lifetime blood thinners, that's a wrap. So the fear here is if Jalen Hertz does not recover from this treatment these three months and something pops back up, you'll go the way of Chris Bosch, which is that's something that will end your career in Chris Bosch very recently had a life threatening instance. And, you know, like the wild part is, Chris Bosch, remember, he went and tried to get second and third and fourth and fifth opinions. He found a doctor. He found one that went to the heat and was asking them and the NBA to please allow him to play and the answer was no. And so, you know, again, Hertz is pretty young relatively speaking in his career and has been successful team wise. Obviously, one is super bowl, been one other super bowl. The idea of like, hey man, it's a wrap. If you could walk around and be a regular person again, like not on his terms, not on his timeline for sure. He wasn't thinking about, hey, this might be my last time playing football. That's the tough kind of cognitive dissonance that's probably happening, but at the same time, I think we all agree. Oh, there are warriors in the last of it. Nobody needs to die for this game, man. Nobody needs to die for it. No, I just know it's hard to diagnose. I do think that Chris Bosch participated in activities. I think he part took the definitely part took in some also related activities while he was dealing with what was initially reported as like a calf. But it wasn't physical. It was just shooting and what it is that we just heard there where Jeremy is saying, can't do anything physical for three months. That doesn't sound harmless. Like, that doesn't sound. We're in the Wemba Nyama stages of this who's even younger than Jay Linders. Well, that's that's a byproduct of the blood thinners. If you get a cut, your life is in jeopardy. So you can't really play football, but he can't do anything physical for three months at all, which effectively obviously ends his season. And I think begins the conversation of, is he ever going to play again because the sport is dangerous and there's blood all the time in that in that sport. You can't be worried about bleeding out because you're on blood thinners. Not to mention internal bleeding too. Like, at least the external, but you could see it. Internal bleeding. There's plenty of people that do the three month treatment and don't have another one pop up for the rest of their lives. If that's the case, if he's lucky enough to fall into that class, then he's fine. He obviously cannot, it's not a conversation. He can't play any sport, let alone the most physical one in our country on blood thinners. Bosch recently suffered another pulmonary embolism. That's what it was at the beginning of this year. And he basically said it was a reminder that he has to be consistent with his medication because that's what life turned into for him. He was only three years older than Jalen Hurtz is right now when those plots came along. He had a much more, I guess, much more established career because he had the Toronto run and then here in Miami. But it's only a three year age difference from 31 to 28 where Jalen Hurtz is. Jalen Hurtz's health is obviously the most important thing to discuss. But today, like the Eagles franchise is now in a tailspin as a result of this. Like it is, it's a total disaster as a franchise. And they won the Super Bowl recently with a all pro at every position along the offensive line. And we evaluated Jalen Hurtz as a quarterback. We spent a lot of time discussing his play and whether he was a product of the people around him or whether he himself would be a good quarterback anywhere that he is. But when you say health is the priority and then end up fairly immediately after that on. And also the Eagle season is a disaster. And it's a calamity for the franchise. It obviously is. And we're speaking like experts here because we have the two instances that we know of. But I can't trust the diagnosis on any of this because everyone is incentivized to mask to get the player on the court on the field to tell him don't sleep for 36 hours because the upcoming game is important. And while we pay lip service to the idea, obviously his health is more important. It's not like people act like it. Like if you're if the reporting on this is accurate, where you're like so worried about something that you don't we don't want you to fall asleep for 36 hours and then go play Jacksonville. You guys you guys made the correction of Dan football is violent with anybody. Yes, but Jacksonville hasn't allowed a 40 yard rusher before yesterday. They injured T Higgins and Jamar Chase. They made Drake May look incompetent. They made the Sean Watson look incompetent like the the the size of these human beings. I really do. I keep mentioning this and you guys tell me that I'm a downer for doing it. Okay. They are going out of their way to make the quarterback play a different position than everyone else. How many bad calls were there this weekend where you guys were like really? On third down, you're going to call roughing the passer on that. What is that that you're calling on roughing the passer? All of the officiating. All of the rules are different. Zaz for the quarterback, then they are for anyone else playing football. They're different. And yet the quarterbacks can't stay healthy. None of them can stay healthy with an assortment of injuries. And I think it's at least in part because these 330 pound human beings on the defensive line are more athletic than anyone you've seen at that size. Let's just be careful to not tie this to football. We don't know what happened and this pops up in all walks of life. It happens. Yes, but what we do know that happened according to the reporting is that he was asked to not sleep for 36 hours. That is true. That's what Tom Pillow's arrow said. And I do Do you think it's an age? interesting who knows one of the sad things about this is Jalen hurts misses an opportunity to change a narrative that was around him. And that's a pretty courageous final act this season for Jalen hurts. He was told not to sleep for 36 hours. He's still played and he put together a pretty good game against a tough defense and had what should have been a game winning drive. He was playing against what I believe to be the most violent defense in the NFL and he delivered and then came out and kicked a 70 yard field goal. He kicked a 60 yarder this weekend, didn't he? That they made look easy at the end. In fact, I thought the entirety of the end of that game was Houston being scared of a 70 yard field goal at the end. Do you remember how it is that the clock was being managed at the end of that game where Houston wanted to make sure that there was no time left, no time left because of Zaz's frustration with Jacksonville only has to get to its own 35 yard line in order to try a field goal. I miss that game. I was watching. You can see everything. Oh my God. That move is so good. It's so good. So good. Dan, have you seen it? I have not. What? What are you going? What are you wasting your time? It just came out. No, no, no. I'm about to go see it for a third time today. Give you a couple days. It's a three hour movie. Give me a second. Flys by. Yeah, absolutely. Live by I've done spoken by the guy who falls asleep routinely in movies. Did not fall asleep. Not one bit. Didn't even me on. I was so locked in to those dead Mako shark eyes that woman has. So Elizabeth Holmes is her name. She is the founder of Theranos. She is now in prison Theranos was a made up organization that pretended it had it had inventive evolutionary ability to take a single drop of blood and be able to analyze the entirety of your health. She's clearly and obviously a fraudster who has been in prison Nathan Fielder only makes interesting unusual things. Jeremy has said that he's going to watch it for the third time today. Mike Ryan was watching it instead of Jacksonville Houston on Sunday morning. You went to the what? There was one to a theater to catch it. I knew this was going to be a conversation piece and I'm a big Nathan Fielder fan. And I saw it. I thought it was I thought it was good. I'm out of the three of us that have seen it. I'm probably well, not probably. Definitely the coolest on it. But I think my my relationship with the movie was affected by the crazy praise that's being heaped upon it. Let me tell you something. I woke up Sunday, opened my text. I got the we're in the movie text. And here comes Mike Ryan saying that movie wasn't all that. Come on. And I was like, what are you talking about? But then you know what? That's an unfair. I said, I said, you know what? Maybe Mike's right because I haven't seen it. Went to see it came out so blown away, but also so upset. But then I realized, you know what? Mike Ryan's a genius. He's corner the market on I'm going to take something that's going to be universally loved. And I'm going to crap on it. Not because I'm probably a contrarian, but what he's done is actually improve the watching process for all of us. Because now when we go watch the movie, we're like, Oh, wait a second. This is great. What was my talking about? I was expecting something terrible. Don't don't make this what I did with Spider-Man. I thought Spider-Man was bad. I think that I think this movie is ambitious and and and and really, really good. And John rebending in ways that we've grown accustomed to from them, but I didn't think it's matching the hype of letterboxed all time best reviewed movie. I haven't wanted to go to the movies and see a movie for a third time since I was 13 years old and the dark night came out where it made me go the next day and see it and then go again. And that's exactly what's about to happen. I'm going to go this afternoon and I'm going to bring a little note pad so that I can take notes and talk to my wife about why took notes all throughout the movie on my phone took notes so I didn't care who was next to me or whatever. It's unbelievable there. You know what? Get out now. Go watch it now. Go now. Leave now. Come on. Please. Week seven is loaded with rivalry games. Bengals Ravens, Dolphin Shats, Packers Lions and Cowboys Eagles on Monday night, we even get Steelers Saints from France and Chief Seahawks under the lights on Sunday night. 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