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Zach Zucker (Jack Tucker) Is Pure Chaos | Whiskey Ginger

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Zach Zucker (Jack Tucker) Is Pure Chaos | Whiskey Ginger

Andrew Santino reflects on his personal and comedic journey, rooted in rebellion and playful non-conformity. From being expelled from Jewish temples for dancing to music and wearing a baseball uniform, he shares how his childhood defiance shaped his identity as a comic performer. He recounts a humorous yet poignant anecdote about meeting Barack Obama at a Jewish community event, which he sees as emblematic of cultural stereotypes and anti-Semitism. Santino emphasizes the importance of intention, humility, and cultural awareness in comedy, drawing from his experience at a French clown school, where he learned physical comedy, game-based performance, and the value of laughter without judgment. He discusses how physical humor transcends language and culture, resonating universally. He also introduces his alter ego, Jack Tucker, a fictional, eccentric character used to explore absurdity and comedic contrast. The episode concludes with a promotion of Square Space, offering a 10% discount for listeners using the code "whiskey," encouraging creative online presence. Through storytelling, Santino blends personal history, cultural insight, and comedy to celebrate the power of play, connection, and self-expression.

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Welcome back to Whiskey Jinger, a wave series presented by Fandall. Hey, Wisjinge fans, June 28th, June 28th. I'm coming down to San Diego. I'll be down there on SD row. I'm down at the sound in Delmar, dude. So pack up your boards, dude. Grab yourself some Modellos and come out and see me, dude. I'll be at the sound. I'm going to be at the sound in Delmar by the Delmar fairgrounds. I believe it is. There's an early show in the late show, June 28th, June 28th, come out and see me. Then I'm at the AmeriStar casino on St. Charles, Missouri. Pretty much St. Louis right there. Come on out midwest and come see me. That's July 24th. Andrew Santino, not come with those tickets. Andrew Santino.com. In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, with that creature in the ginger beer. Sturdy, ginger, like that has the ginger gene in the case. Ginger's a fugitive. You only five downers for the whiskey. 75 downers for the whole. Ginger's our hell now. This whiskey gives excellent. Andrew, I like ginger's. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to whiskey. Ginger, my guess is one of my favorite people on this channel. I guess what I mean is once again today. Oh man. It's Exagger. Thank you, everyone in the congregation. God bless you. And good sun tight. Did you go to church as a kid? I'm Jewish. I was actually kicked out of three temples. That's so crazy to get kicked out of temple. It was rough because Jews are pretty liberal when it comes to letting you get away. It was being a goofball. Oh yeah. Well, look, they love to be a goofball until it's something that you're not allowed to goof around about. What did you goof about? You know, I was I was five, eight, and twelve when I got kicked out. And as a kid who obviously has like severe attention, that deficit disorder could even finish it. I heard that one before. So that was the that was the rabbi. I know, but we like I obviously didn't want to be in Hebrew school. I didn't want to be in any school. I wanted to be running around in the dirt and skateboarding and playing sports and playing with my friends. So and then I also like every Jewish kid from the burbs. I want to be a rapper, a dancer and a basketball player. Sure. So I was in that order. And I still believe like I don't know if you have this with anything, but I still believe I could be a I could like if I needed to get into the NBA, I could hold you 16. Nice. No, it goes away. I'm in my 40s. It's over. Well, look, I'm 33 this month. Oh, dude, when you hit 40 something, your brain goes, I guess that's it. I mean, it was never going to happen, but it could have, but but it could have. Like to me, I'm like, you're telling me that for the next two years, I trained every day on LeBron's budget. I can't play like three minutes of meaningful basketball in the NBA. And there's no way. There's no way. There is no way. But I do, but I do like the thought. Yeah, yeah. The thought is good until you hit 40 and then it's over. So you wanted to be a rapper, a dancer, a basketball player. Oh, yeah. And I still do, but it's, but comedy has taken over. Unfortunately, I feel like I do notice that a lot, though. A lot of rappers or, you know, or rappers, dancers, basketball players want to be us. Exactly. Yeah. And I'm like, I can't tell you enough how bad you don't want this life. No, it's way easier to do what you guys are doing for your lifestyle and also for your mental health. That's really what it is. Oh, you're, you're, your thing you do for a job every day is you like workout and you get good endorphins and eat healthy and take care of yourself in mind is like, how late can I stay up? Absolutely. Trashing myself all the time. What would be a funny way to hurt myself today? Oh, and I don't have the rest in rear covering. I don't stretch and my body hurts all the time. So like, so not a good exchange. No, not so much. So wait, how did you get kicked out five eight and 12? Five. It was because I went up to the BIMO where the Torahs were in that little secret spot. And I was, at the time, I had the headphones that like went around like this. Sick. Yeah, it was awesome. I was killing it. And I had them, I had them like this. Then I eventually had them when there was their kind of the solos. And I was this, like, you know, get Richard Dye trying was out and like also the G unit album, beg for mercy was out. And I just was like having fun in there because they would always tell me I couldn't listen to the music. It wasn't a good, like good Hebrew music. And then, so I like put it through my speakers through the BIMO in the middle of a synagogue. And it was like, I don't know what you heard about me. And as you can't get it. And I was, I was like, you know, obviously vibing, dancing, shooting hoops, you know, all at the same time. And they, they didn't like that. And that was like a, like our teacher's name was Kitty. And I was always like me out at her and be like, sorry, I don't speak cat and like getting owned by a five year old. Like huge. That really hurt her ego. It really did. I kind of was shitty to then the next one too. She was somebody who moved, she, I don't know how to say this. I didn't, she came from Israel. I'm just trying to, I was trying to out to evoke Israel or anything of it. But I am actually starting on a game show over there called Netanyahu whose line is it anyway. I'm very excited. I'm very excited to play. And I, she was like, she would always get mad at me because I was late, or I'd come in my baseball uniform. And she said something to me once like, oh my god, dude, I'm going to shoot myself on the foot here. She said something like if you ever want to like be a man, like you need to learn how to like take, you know, be on time. And I was like, well, if you ever want to make it in America, you need to shave your mustache. I was like, he years old, dude, I didn't know. I was watching style part of that kill crush. She left. She left. And she like never came back. Yeah. She went back to Israel. I think so. Yeah. Do you want to also hear the most fucked up part about this whole thing? That's not the fucked up part. No, okay. So this was in, and it's ultimately like a real horrific series of coincidences that unfortunately perpetuates like anti-Semitic tropes, which again, I'm very sensitive too. But I do control Zileza. Thank you for this, by the way. Yeah, it's been really nice. Beautiful lighting here. I got a nice mist in here. Yes. There was, so, so this class was like a smaller class in my friends, our family friends basement. My brother's visually impaired. The son of this family was visually impaired. And the mom was like a wonderful warrior for like the foundation for fighting for for retinal research and like foundation fighting blindness. And we were in the basement of this. So it's like a bunch of Jews in the basement with this woman from Israel. And at the time, Barack Obama was running for, I think he was running for Congress the first time. And he had met up with them to like talk about, you know, how he could help out or how he could help, you know, maybe I don't know, I don't know the right words if it's like further the initiative or get involved with the charity. But, you know, zooming out, Obama, with a bunch of Jews in the basement there, feels very stereotypical to what is being taught. But again, it was very, it's confirming all my belief. Yeah, truthfully. And it's, it's awful. It's like a, I think I'm such a bad representation for the Jewish community. And I am so sorry. And I don't know how to help it. No, you're a great representation. Because you're funny, handsome, cool, sweet, smart, talented, and also a little bit of a bad bow. Yeah, bad boy. And also you got a killer jump shot. The 15 footer is on denial. Oh, God, it's a little shimmy failure. A little, a little, a little, a little zack tap and then shoot it over the head. Obama's in the basement with you guys. Well, he was up, he was upstairs. And like I met him so easily. Now he didn't make it down. He knew the optics were going to be there. I'm not going to go down there. I'm not going to stay, I'm going to stay over here. Can you still do Obama impressions? Are people doing it? No, I don't think Obama doesn't impression of himself anymore either. Now I ran into him and he was like, well, so I'll play you. And I was like, Obama, really? It was all an act. What was this? When did I meet Obama? A month ago, right? A couple months ago. A couple months ago. Were you at the Brent's basement party? Maybe. And you'll end up just dealing with it. You guys, you think I can't get rid of me? No. And then who kicked you out of 12? I'm a woman in Michla. Oh, I know Michla. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Well, so then the only room that was left was the orthodox temple in our town, because they were the ones who were taking me like, we could change him. And that's when I was big in my jackass phase. My dream bar mitzvah theme was to have it be a jackass. And my parents obviously didn't want it. And I was like, I get it. My name spelled ZACH. That's ZACK. No one's going to get mad. And they're like, that's not why we don't want you to do this. And I, so they took me there. And this was big jackass. This was like Ryan Dunn was doing a show called Home Record. I remember he was teaching you pranks like the deodorant prank with cream cheese and all these other things. And like, I think I did some like, I was like putting stuff in her coffee and like, to your mom. No, no. To Michla. To Michla. It was essentially like all of our mothers, you know, but yeah, I, I definitely, a Jewish mother is everyone's mom. And even to non-Jews. And that is one of the most beautiful qualities. I feel like a Jewish mother, any of my Jewish friends, any of their mothers would become your mother. Next mom was on set. It just becomes your mom, but I've also known her for 20 years. But it became a mom. And a Jewish father doesn't want to talk to any of your friends. Unless, unless you start to, you like, you have to like really subtly edge in over the years with sports and business. Even still, they're like kind of disinterest because you're a child, yeah, whatever. But then every now and then, they'll like, they'll kind of, they'll, you won't be there. And they'll be like, Oh, that's in Tino. He's a good kid. Yeah, that's all you're going to get. That's like the top of what you're going to get. But that's all you get is their sons. Anyways, you know, so it's that you're not getting anything. They're not getting it. Never ends with you guys. No, and they never will. It's so funny. I've been being told by like all my friends. Like, you got to be like more just just think about what you say while any podcast. I don't know because I'll start off and start doing this guy right here right off. I know. I know. I know. I know. I think I think the world is in a really dark odd place. I think the more playful we become, the better off we're going to be. I fully agree. If we look, being conscious of your language or your or your intent is important. But we're going to make mistakes. I tried very hard. I learned a really good lesson about how and I and I spoke to my wife after that we had shot and we had worked with someone who on set was a day then, right? That's how they prefer to be called. And I accidentally twice. I think I said the wrong. I said she. And then I corrected myself. Then I apologized in the kitchen. You know, I went up to them and I said, hey, I'm sorry about that. I don't know if that really bothered you, but I did a kind of subconsciously, yeah. - And was so like, are you kidding? No, that's not, it's not that big of a deal. But cool that you, thanks for being cool about that. - Yeah. - And then that night I thought, it's really, I, it is weird that people care because intent matters. - To me, it's all intent and context. Like that, that I think has been completely lost. My big, whole thing is, comedians are held to politician standards and politicians are not. - Yeah. - So it's like, why are you, my job is to be a goof and say the bad things. And I went to a, I went to a clown school where our whole thing is like, how many times can you cross the line and step over, over and over again from a place of play in like wonder and discovery? I'm not like, you know, I like to make fun of everything, but like I don't, I'm not trying to like hurt anybody. - Right, I think that's the thing. That's the one I mean by that was like the intent. Like I didn't mean to do that. And then the acknowledgement, you know, was great because it made me feel like, oh yeah, you understand that I didn't do that out of deliverance now. And then also, then the world's a little bit easier. Yeah, people, people want what they want. You're going to try your best. And unless something is intended to be fuck you, then it's like, oh, mistakes happen. It is what it is. By the way, clown school, I know. - Really wish I wanted. - It's, it was the best thing. - That didn't get in. - Really? - It's crazy because it's an open application and anyone who's willing to pay 600 euros for the course. - Where did you go? It was, would you go in, in France in a small village called Itomp. And itomp translates to stamp, hence stamp town the name of the show. - That's where it came from, yeah. - You, you're fluent in French? - I'm fluent in Spanish. I speak in a French to get by. God, that's what. - Did you do that before going there? Are you learning how you were there? - I learned there. Spanish was what helped me out there. And then like, I wish I had, I can't read, I can't read so good. - I can't read too good. - I can't read no good, actually, but I like the sounds. (laughing) I like the sounds of how they look. But I didn't really know, but I was going out in Paris 'cause the school is like an hour outside. It's like an hour south. - Sure. - And we would then go to Paris and I would meet all these other epic Europeans who all spoke five languages. - Wow. - And so speaking Spanish with them helped me get into the worlds where I would then hear it. And then I started listening to French immersion. There was a teacher named Michel Thomas who would take people from zero and teach them to fluency and you would listen along with them and you would learn. Or listening to music or watching TV shows. And I could have been so much better and it's been 11 years since I went and I wish I was more. - But you still did sound. That sounded really, really good. - You were right there. - What is the syndrome where you see a color and you hear what is that called synesthesia? - I know what you're talking. - Synesthesia? - That would be in the realm of what I mean. - I'm right. - Yeah, synesthesia. - Let's go. - You have that. - I think so. - Yeah, you're synesthetic. - I think I have a lot of, I see a lot of stuff rhythmically, musically and colorfully and then I kind of just let it fly. - Versus its original form is not interesting to you. It's not that you can't read it. You don't want to read it as it's presented. - Yeah. - And I've always, like I even as a kid, like I fucked up my hip flexors for life 'cause everyone was sitting crisscross applesauce and I was like, not me, I can't do it. And then just refused and like I write differently, I put a pencil in between my two fingers like this and just like, you write like that? - Like this, yeah. - A claw. - Just like a claw. - For no reason, I was just like, I'm a contrarian. - But I also want to do what the other kids were doing. - No. - And I always, but I also, it's such a fun contradiction 'cause like I want to also be like the voice of the people and I want to be the guy they rally behind. But I'm also like, fuck this, you'll never catch me doing this for such arbitrary things that actually have no impact whatsoever. - What's the most embarrassing thing that no one knows that you do, that you don't want someone to see you doing, but you do it and you don't care. It's not that big of a deal. - Like crying, shitting and coming. - That's my, well, I don't know, that's embarrassing. - No, no, no. - Very relieving. - I'll give you one, that's very embarrassing. - Yeah, please give you one. - This is, I'm 42 year old man. To this day, I still tie my shoes. - Funny ears. - Funny ears. - I've never, I've never learned the other way. - I know many. - I've never used. And it would be, oh my god, this is a revel. You're the only other man I know. - I, and it's. - Let's move and pull does not interest me at all. - No. - I like bunnies. - I like the bunnies. It makes me feel like a little sweetheart. - I like it, I don't know why. - I like to be a sweetheart. But it is funny when I have to tie my shoe in public and see someone who I'm with, sees me bend down in bunny ears. If I see them, see it. There's a moment where I have to get to the next subject, verbally, otherwise they'll be like, "Did you just bunny your tire shoes?" - Yeah, and you really quick, you say something racial. You're like, "Uh, what do you think about that?" - The Bobo was in the basement of the bunch of shoes one years ago. This one, this one Jewish clown kid told me. (laughing) Anyways, he's gonna sit crossover. (laughing) - He's a dancer now. - Yeah. - Wait a minute. - Okay, let me- - Clown school, hold on, Clown school. - Well, you think about what's embarrassing that you do, that you don't want anybody to see you do like that. It's not that big of a deal, but it does affect my brain. - Yeah, of course. - Clown school, Clown school is a thing where it's very, there's a lot of reverence for it. It is incredible that people actually go to do that. What is the percentage of people that you went to school with who are like, careering now? Or having something like that? - I just had this conversation last night. - Yeah. - So, well, first off, it shots out to my great teacher, Philippe Golié. May he rest in peace. He passed away a few months ago. He's a real bummer, dude. - Philippe Golié? - Golié. - Golié, Philippe Golié, and he- - Help me with my punch. - It's a bit of, you know, Philippe. - Philippe? - Yeah, Philippe. - Philippe Golié. - Philippe Golié. - Oh. - And his wife, Michko. - Michko. - Michko. - Michko Michko Golié. - Yeah, exactly. - Philippe, Philippe. - Philippe? - Philippe. - Yes. - My favorite thing, French do that. They drag out of it. - That's my, with the, by you, you could say so much with the face in the nose is a, you know, like, that shit kills me. I had a friend from school named Clementine there and she would always go, "Fa, I don't know." And like, I would just crack up all the time. - Because it's a big pause for them. That's like a gap film. - That's their like. - But, it's like, all the different registers mean like a different type of thinking. - It's so interesting. - And as you're around it, you just start to pick up on it. It's like, it's when people go like, (inhales deeply) you know, it's like their version of it. - But it's so, but it's so caricature-based. - Oh. - But they do it culturally. It's very norm. - And it's just, you know, they're usually like kind of like here, you know, and it's like a little, it's like the eve of a glass of wine or a little cigarette and it's like here. And they really nurse, they nurse the moment. And I think what they, what I love about them is like, one, I love how pretentious the French are. And I love how much they care about, how much they don't care about anything. Like, that's their big thing. And they like protest, which I love. And they like, they protest so hard for no reason. A lot of times, but it's like, by itself being if we protest, we protest, you know. It's like, they really like, they go for it. It's all matter of fact. And you're like, this is so silly, but yeah, I'm fully with it. And I like, I love that about that. - They're their level of self-confidence is unmatched by any other European country. Nobody can be as, most other European countries are very like, they're just not, they're just, they're missing a little bit. - Yeah. - They're missing one. There's, each one has one big blind spot. - Right. So the French are so sure of themselves. - Oh, unbelievable. - Like one of our closest friends is from Paris. And Parisians are a level that no American could do. - There's such kinds. - No tough New York. - No. - Brooklyn Born. I know this is my black. - You can get, you can get absolutely disassembled by that or disarmed by them immediately. - It's unbelievable. - You get one, you get one. - You get one. - Kiss on the cheek like this. Oh, here's one, okay. So like, look, I'm a bisexual dude. I feel like I can be like, I can be like a dude and I can be one of the girls. And I'm like, fun in this way. And with being European a bit as well, where like I've spent most of my like coming of age years, where I've started when I learned to come for the first time in Europe. (laughing) - Allegedly. - And when I was out there, like, you know, the kiss, the double kiss is your thing. And so a lot of times I'll be here. We're all meet someone and I'll kind of come in for this. And then they're not doing it at all. And I'm like, oh great, you think I've just like kissed you. - No, I think I'm a predator. - Now you think I'm a predator. I'm just trying to European pleasantry you and show you how sophisticated I am. And instead I've now made you feel uncomfortable immediately because we do a handshake. - We do. - And it's like, and then when I go back to Paris, like I never get it right, as soon as I leave Paris, I'm like in the flow of it and I come here, and no one's doing it. I go back to Paris and I like try to give everyone a hug. And then you just almost always kiss them or bump heads. And it's like the worst introduction. - Do you go left or right? - I try to, I usually go left. I usually go left first. - I go left and then I go right. And then, and I love how fun is like, sometimes if you really love them, you do give them a nice little kiss, but I love when you kind of just go, I'm giving you like this side of my chin and my cheek. And it's like, yeah, but that's it. And that's the pleasantry. And you get it from the, you know where to go. But you just know how to feel it. But we don't do it here. - We don't do it. - Well, I do have some, we have some family friends that do do it, that do like the kiss on the cheek thing. Some of them kiss you right on the crest of the liver, right on the corner. - Yeah. - And I don't know if that's-- - It's a sneaky little French game they like to play. - Yeah, how close can I get? - How close, 'cause look, they're all about lovers, which again, I think that is a great way to live life. - Yeah, they do their free. - They're free and it's like, it's okay to take a lover. It's just, you know, you don't say nothing. I don't get you. You don't get me in the water. - What up? - With their, 'cause they're the original poly community. - Of course. - France is like the original spread love. - Oh yeah. - It's almost like America tried in the '70s. Like free love and then America was like, I don't think that's true. - Actually, I don't think that's true for us. - We're gonna get back to the white picket fence in those mode lawns. - Yeah, fast. - Quick, put up a tire, put up a tire in a swing. Right now, it's every straight American male in that era that like kissed another guy on accident was like, it's not shit so funny. - I gotta buy an old one, Bill, right now. - It like, re-corrected very fast. Then the '80s came running and they're like, cocaine, wall street. - Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. - It just became like such and the '70s were like, the post-60s era like figuring it out. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Everyone in it, be free. - And then fight for what you believe in the '80s are like, get the gaze out of here. (laughing) - Son, I'm proud of you. (laughing) - And then never hear from your dad again for like 18 years. So that's me I'm born in 83 like my entire generation is just like don't do that do this be quiet Sit down everything was so we were so like We were so bullied by rules. Yeah, that we felt we felt scared of the other side And then the next generation 90s kids felt we like my sister way more free way more like shout-out who fucking cares Yeah, like my sister never got what I got hit all the time And I'm sorry about that. I didn't mean to do that beautiful beautiful little face. Yeah, we just got yeah I just got I was a bad kid anyway. I was gonna ask were you were you so bad? Where you did you know it? Did you know on purpose was it kind of just like your reflex? You're like hey, I'm Like I was in the principal's office my whole all the time I was always apologizing. I got kicked out of Moody Bible in Chicago. Shout out Moody Bible the kicks me out movies Wait, did you grow up in Chicago Moody Bible? Yeah for for my childhood. Okay. I grew up in Highland Park Do you really suburbs? Yeah, yeah, I was Bible downtown. That's where I went to school. Yeah, and then my mom got remarried We moved to the suburbs. Okay, my my mom's from home would oh shit. Oh my god Family yeah, but see the Jews are all up north. We are yeah, and that's where you belong and we're gonna stay up there Yeah, and you better not be gay up there It's one thing to be Jewish. It's another to be gay my son. He's a gay Jew. What do I do? Turns into a music music. Oh, yeah It's Mel Brooks's whole life. I got kicked out. I got kicked out a Moody Bible for being I just a bad kid But I knew I was a bad kid also You know rebellion was gonna be a part of my thing my mom got separated from my dad when I was one he had some troubles And so I was like, you know kind of this wild little loose Kid single mother and then I Just knew that like I didn't like taking things serious So fucking off was my answer to my probably my my my my lack of comfort. Yeah, so I was like well Just fuck off break it take it apart goof on it make fun of it make light of it because it was easier than the other side It's so much easier that way. I also I it's funny I remember being in fifth grade like I always fucked around I remember being the kids watching South Park the movie watching shut your fucking face uncle fucker Yeah, but I'm like that was being yeah, I loved that and then I remember in fifth grade. I saw I Saw that the the movie musical version of 1776 and I was like one day. I'm gonna lead a revolution Now still figuring out what that is It's common maybe it's 50-year-old guys joining the NBA That could be great 50-year-old white shoes in the NBA. I've also never gone to college So in theory I could do what these punks are doing right now that are going to college at 28 going back Yeah, I could go back. I've never done it clown school didn't have a concoction of a team. They didn't have a squad No, no, you know, it's funny. I think besides me maybe three other people had touched a basketball before sunk on sunk How do you say shirts and skins, how do you say shames and I don't know how you would you would say skins? What do you say skins in French? He'll look it up. Shemi. Um sunk on sunk. Shemi. Shemi. Shemi oh, but shemi. I just say not shirts. A pill Bill come back. A P. E. A. U. X P. P. Like P. P That's what I said. It's so funny cuz again. I don't know how to read French. There is a French person at home right now very very Yeah, by this what is this this is a disgrace to my You do this to any other language and they would be like, oh, that's fun. They're goofing they're trying Yeah, the French are genuinely I get corrected constantly. They're mad about it And I and I love it and I get like it hurts my heart every time but there's sort of this like massacistic thing where it's like But they cared enough to correct me Yeah, they do they do they give a shit enough Beautiful language if you butcher it I will kill you But I have a coffee and then also they give you the worst caught. There's no good coffee in Paris It's just like they have so many amazing things there and they everyone just is like, but coffee is shit But what they don't drink coffee is it's just not a cultural thing they're not so much they don't have they'll have a little coffee in a cigarette at the Belongiori or like outside when you're like sitting a little cafe just like looking like there was an old man outside my friend Shout out good man. Yeah, shout out on every podcast. 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They're sad characters and that this goes into the are there a larger thing was like at clown school So it's like it's like my my two years was like 75 of the weirdest people from like 45 different countries Wow, all of us have this like it desired our hard to perform and like literally cannot figure it out in any way shape Before you started off to go to school exactly. We're like well I got nowhere else to go I might as well go to this clown school in France. That's like truly a labyrinth to get into like the the website used to be this like Horrible like 2d flash website all in English second language from him in French and his wife in Japanese It makes no sense he already speaks in riddles and if you could figure out how to send her the 100 euro deposit for one course You were good you were in now. You've got to figure out how to get there and and where do you live? Well, you're there too. You could live in Paris or you could live in the city I lived all over I lived with like you know first. I lived with an Italian guy Girl from bass country a girl from my orca and a girl from Belgium I saw this episode of girls it was really amazing and then wait till the next episode of friends It was me the Italian the girl from the Taiwanese girl and the Italian guy Holy shit. Yeah, and so we just you know I lived with all these different people from all these different cultures. Not from clown school though They're just humans you met. Oh, sorry. These were all these were other students. Oh, they were all students But I did but I did live like the first time I was with a host family Frank and Marilyn and they did not speak any English whatsoever and over the years they learned but they had like nine cats I'm severely allergic to cats so I could like never breathe in their house It was a nightmare and then one year. I did like a music video where I played the love interest of like a G like a PG music video Called hello beautiful and when they we showed it to them They cried of laughter so hard that they opened up their secret little downstairs cinema that they never let us go into to play it eight times in a row to just keep laughing at me Really? And I was like when that moment happened. I was like we're good like you love me. You see me now Well, it's comedy's universal exactly You know, I mean especially especially physical comedy right verbal. It's really hard to sell a joke overseas of it It has somebody American references to it. Oh, yeah, but physical comedy. There's something about if you can it's pure movement Is it like we all know that's why like Pratt fought like a fall is always funny falls are always funny Oh, yeah, we watched a long came Polly last night and when when Phil some more hoppin walks in and goes And he slips on the dance floor and falls the fall is so good and hard and you can tell it really fucking hurt Oh, yeah, the best man is in the house in the half the way he falls And I go it doesn't matter what country what age what year I see that where who you're where you're from It's funny to watch somebody fall getting kicked in the knots slipping. It's always funny - That's like one-on-one in clown school, they're like falling as falling. - It is, well, that's the whole thing is like, you know, when you have 75, like our whole things were like, one, get into your body, 'cause whether or not the audience knows about it, or people are aware of it, we're picking up all the subconscious, like, you know, stimuli that you would have from any physical choice. And for me, that is like, we, I try to do that intentionally, but like, to be able to play this way, I feel like I'm much better with my body than my words. - Ladies, fellas, everyone in between. (laughs) - Have my own dream. - Just call it a mommy. (laughs) - But in this school, he also then taught us this idea of like, game, and it's like so many people say the word game and all these different things, but it's like, what is the, what are we playing? Who is this, what's going on here? And if you could find the game in the scene, it does not matter what language you're speaking, everything just becomes rhythmic. And it's like, text no longer is the sole way to make people laugh. It's just like another ingredient that you can use to perform with. And so, you have all these people that, like, you know, I remember the best scene I've ever seen in my life was this Malaysian girl named Bella and this Japanese guy named Tatsuya. They did a Greek tragedy scene that I don't speak Malay and I don't speak Japanese, but like, I was moved to pieces and was like, crying, watching this gorgeous scene happen 'cause you see this, like, physicality and the performance and you're like, you know, they could have been making fun of us the whole time and nobody would have known. - No, it's sort of been incredible. - And they're shitting on all you guys the whole time. - Incredible. - That's my dream. That's my dream. - Wait, did anybody, is anybody like-- - So yes, so there's, we were saying last night, across our, like, there's like a three-year span where, like, you know what, I'm not trying to be like an old head about it, but like, between the 2014 to, like, 2016, '17, Goliath, correct classes, like, in my class, it was, I mean, I love everybody, and if anyone here hears this, I love you all, but I think it's like, really, myself and my buddy Tom Walker, who's an amazing Australian physical comedian, he's a mime, a clown, a writer, he hosts Australian great bake-off and, like, has done some great stuff down there. He's amazing, he's got a special on Amazon, fantastic guy. And then in the year below me is, like, my two best friends and comedy partners, Vigo Venn, who one Briton's got talent, and Johnny Woolly, who's my director of everything I do. And then we have, like, a bunch, our friend Sammy Albuwara is a great artist, our friend Elf Lyons. Our friend's Maddie Bies, and a group called Siblings, like, oh, God, there's a probably other people that I'm forgetting, but these are all people who were, like, established friends. - And moving through the scene really well. - Gary Starr, my friend Damien, like, you know, all these people are, like, selling out, winning awards, traveling around the world, making those shows, and, like, we had a really tight knit group, you know, it was really cool, and I'm, like, really proud to be here. - That's so cool. - Oh, I love them. - And I think that happens in waves. I think that sounds strange to say, but a lot of time, graduating classes, for some reason, certain classes are blessed. Like, something happened that all these classes came together. - Yeah. - And not to say that any other is less valid, but they are less valid. - Yeah, look, and I'm happy to ride that. I'm gonna stand behind that, but not have to say it. - That's right. I just think that you do see classes sometimes that are, like, quite impressive. That make, like, a big class. - Did you study, and did you go to college? What'd you do? - I went to college, but it wasn't a real thing. I went to, yeah, I went to Arizona State. - Yeah, I went to Arizona State. I went to Arizona State. Yeah, I wanted to get to the West Coast. I wanted so bad to get out here and start stand up and try comedy. And I went there for journalism and English and creative writing classes. All I really wanted to do was find a funnel way to, like, make stuff. - Yeah. - I would have done any theater, any performance, whatsoever at all, leading up to it. - As a kid, no, I didn't really do any. As a kid, I just was a punk who played basketball and loved to fuck off. - Did you also thought I was a rapper? - Okay. - And skate, love skating. - Yeah, I thought I was that guy. - Yeah, of course. I thought I used to draw tattoos on myself all the time. I would draw, like, the only of the strong will survive on a cross with, like, a basketball. And I was like, well, Tyson Chandler has this. - I have it permanently right now in this area. - I do you. - I still wanna admire him. - I would draw, like, off two pox tattoos. - I had love the two pox tattoos. - And I would go thug life and I had the wear with all to just write the number 50 and put the gun. I didn't, like, slap the n-word on my chest. Which is kind of awesome. - Yeah. - You know, look, I got the pass. But I, from all the other Jews in the school. - Yeah. - You can say it. - You can say it. - It's okay, no one's here. We'll buy ourselves. - Well, that was actually the makeup of where I grew up. It was, like, basically, you know, it was, like, Jewish and Mexican communities. - Yeah. - And so, like, that was, for me, that's why I spoke Spanish. I mean, I was in a dual-language program as a kid. - Oh, you were? - Yeah, dude. They try to insert me in that. But you're not gonna like this. My mom talked, I talked, I, in my last special, I had a joke about it. But I went to a school called the Sal Language Academy downtown. - Yeah, I know the Sal. - And I, um, and she made me take German. Don't, I know. Why wouldn't I like that? - Well, I think I, what do you mean? - Well, you are wearing Adidas. - Thank you for just saying it like that. (laughing) - And those are Kanye's shoes by the way. - Yeah! - It's tough. Well, that's, okay, look, let's talk about this for a sec because obviously, as a Chicago kid, I love Kanye. - I do too. - And I, as a kid, I also worked on a charity with him as a kid and I met him and I met Virgil and I met Lupé Fiasco and Common and it's like, I have put so much of what I love and not even that, the, if we are gonna separate artists in art for a second, the way he produces and I believe pulls the best out of other people and then allow you both to shine and kind of like spin around each other. It's like, that is the composition of it and the production of the engineering is my basis for everything that I try to create. - He's a magic man, I'm mostly, I think he's just, well, I think he's just, I think he has cemented the health issues. - First of all, and it's like, really? - Yeah, I mean, no one's really said that. - Yeah, no. - I mean, for the first 25 years of his career, it was kind of, I didn't love what he said, but the last two years, I've really been loving what he's been saying. - It's really strong. If anything, he commits. - Yeah. - Well, that's the, actually, ironically, he backs out all the time. I didn't mean to say all that. - Like, well, then why did you say that? - Why did you say all that triples down? Here it is on a shirt and you're like, "Oh, dude." Well, that's the hard part. - It is hard for him, especially because I have loved him so much, but you're like so disappointed. - It's really disappointed. - It's so disappointing all the time. You're like, just cut that out, will you? - I think, I never fully, I boycotted in that. It took me, I didn't listen to him for a few years or big months at a time. Not because I was like, I will never listen to you. Because I subscribe to the, if you're a fan of Kanye West, you're a fan of yourself. And that was something that he would say. And it meant a lot to me. And I believe in my heart. He's not this terrible person. I just believe he's super sick. But then I hear from a lot of my Jewish friends, which again, it's like sucks to be Jewish right now, kind of all the time. But like, again. - It's always been bad. - Not great. - And by the way, and it's gonna stay that way. - It's gonna only get to get worse. (laughing) - Until we find the way to get me into the NBA. (laughing) (singing) - Hey, I'm Shfetit in the corner. (laughing) But like this, also this fun to have fun, to play the idea of something stupid. This is what I loved most about clown school is that, everything was on limits. - Right. - And if you, you can do impressions of each other, you can make fun of each other, we can mock each other. And it was never like, to be racist or to be nasty. It's like my comedy partner, Vigo, would always say, to laugh of, I want them to laugh of me. And I don't wanna laugh on you or at you, but I want you to laugh of me, laugh of what I got. And I love when people make fun of me. - Well, yeah, it's fun. - It's hilarious. And I wanna do it back, and so then it defeats the whole purpose of like, you can't do this. And I was like, oh, what? I'm sorry, are you, are they not allowed to have fun too? - Right. - And so to be able to laugh of these things, like, I don't know, I think that's the beauty of it, is all the, you know, I think if any other artist that Don McConaughey had said, I probably would say, fuck that person to hell, but because he happened to be my favorite artist, I'm like, well. (laughing) And then I feel bad a lot of my juice friends were like, how do you, you know, I've been looking and remembering some of the horrible shit he did. And I'm like, yeah, dude, it is awful. - It's awful. - It is awful, but I love him. - Well, I will say this, he's saying it, he's not actions, I think if some of his actions were disgusting, I'd be more embarrassed and sad about it, but it's his words, which I know come from a place of him trying to find the art in his speak. And you're like, I think you're just looking down the wrong, you know what I mean? He's like using the wrong color to paint with, and you're like, don't do that, dude. - And he's like, no, no, I swear there's something here. - And you're like, I know there's not it. - I'm not, I'm not, but I will say, from an artist's perspective, and I'm not one, but I would love to hear one. If anybody has one at home, please send in. From an artist's perspective, a gmail.com. If you have any advice, I'd love. But I just think, I know what he's doing. - Yeah. - That's the saddest part that you're like, oh, dude, you're just, I think you're being, you think you're being bold, you think you're being risque, you're being daring, you're being wrong, but that's what's good, because in art mind, you're always tall like, well, bad can be good, and wrong is sometimes right, and trying is the best thing you can do, even when it's a complete failure or miss. So that in his mind is like, no, dude, this is still a win. I'm exploring, we're digging, we're finding. But it's like, yeah, but it's on the heels of so much awful shit that I don't know if it, I don't know. - And look, this is the heart part. I always was hoping, like, give me that Joaquin Phoenix. I'm still here, documentary movie that's gonna come out with all of this, but I knew it wasn't there, and as someone who, like, I feel you know, I've lived with this guy in my life for 20 plus years where I, if you know the journey, you know what he's been through, so you give this man as much benefit of the doubt as you can versus somebody that may be-- - Just someone else on the street, yeah. - Just someone to street, but then the bum raise, it's like, dude, you have brought, like, a horrific, like, insidious vibe to your crowd, to your fan base. Like, I went to his concert in LA if you could go with my friend. - You went to Shofi? - I did, I mean, it was amazing. And also, I'm like, is he done? And I don't wanna believe that-- - Like, was this a goodbye, you think? - Or like, is this, or, more as it's just like, as he toast, 'cause like, I like some of the new, But then you see you hear his fucking the beginnings of every single song it was like so poignant and lean and dense and punchy and funny and like Progressive and you're like oh, yeah, that's what like that's what this guy brings even as even as silly as she Don't believe in shooting stars. She believes in the shoes and cars It's like that. It's like I missed that and instead. I'm getting like yeah, I'm fucking great. Yeah Yeah, and it's like I can vibe to that sometimes But I'm like I wish you were saying that without saying it right. Give me something else Yeah, but I think like this is a good transition for me because I'm interested so much and we talked a little bit offline about the creation or the discovery Of Jack and like where did that like how where does that? Yeah, so pop out of my my ultra ego Jack Tucker is my stand-up comedy ego or alter ego A tremendous performer. I thank you. A tremendous performer. Not you him. Yeah, of course Yeah, Jack and I are different guys. Yes, I'm just some annoying bisexual dude. Jack is a Christian man And he's a comic coin it clip at name of the episode annoying bisexual I didn't say that he just said that apropos nothing So the internet just has me just saying that and they're like what an asshole. Yeah, you're going I don't think Kanye's messaging was wrong Keep doubling down on everything Um, so Tucker came from Vigo and I used to tour a lot we started our careers doing a double acts called creatively if you can believe it Zach and Vigo how did come up with that uh and yeah real real knock it out of the park And we we were having trouble getting booked for gigs because people said what we did wasn't comedy because we're doing like more Mr. Bean physical type stuff and to be fair. Yeah comedy comedy and to be fair We were in like Lycra body suits and had props. You know, it's not so fun. You don't want those guys around but we were good And so and I kept seeing like and so that's kind of how stamp town started was like Well, let's start off a space for all these fucking freaks and wackos that I think are way funnier than dip shit McGee with his hand in his pants being like so I fingered my girlfriend the other day And to be honest want to know how he did it. What did you do? Please tell me how many fingers how many fingers and where do you put them? What do you do after That's how that song was composed it was a guy fingered someone for the first time when And then okay, so yeah, what did I say something bisexual? Do you brackets the origin of fingering that's the new title for this? But then with Tucker I kept I kind of had this crisis whereas like where I was like am I good at comedy am I a good comedian? I think Even to this dad don't even call myself a comedian. I just say I'm a performer. You're a comedic performer. I am a performer I'm a performer, but you do have a comedic base. Yes, because inherently your attitude your your approach to things are very funny I see you and I smile Come on, I do. Well, it's just natural come on. Some people have that some people just have a thing where it's like a it's like ingrained in your DNA And that's what I feel that's what I learned from Philippe It's like you have that never ending like distilled Like engine of like pure love and joy to perform and retain and be there and I'm like I will I will stay here as long as you guys want me to If you're willing to watch this I will do anything. I love this and with Tucker. I was like okay. Well Maybe I should just play a bad comedian like I love Neil hamburger and he was he gave me my first ever paid gig and has been so Supported to me the whole time doing you know another version like obviously I'm inspired by him and Tim Heideker like the anti-comedy comedy You know Sasha Baron Cohen was a huge influence for me and like all that stuff in that world And so when we started we were like well, obviously Jack Tucker is like a way more believable name than my real name Got this and I didn't know anything about I had never performed five years into my career And I'd never used a microphone before I'd only ever done physical stuff Right hands-free. You never know Yeah, it was a really rough horrific developmental process like the show sucked for a long time But then once you found it Once I found I mean I mean again, I've been doing it for seven years. So like I hope it's this good at this point Otherwise, I'd be in trouble, you know like but I And I'll still bomb, but I think I've made like a bulletproof kind of costume Okay, because you get you when you get to live in a character. It doesn't even matter if it bombs. It doesn't really bomb Well, I also I always forget this like I forget the jokes are bad I genuinely verbatim find them fucking hilarious. They are very funny And so I'm selling him with it you do the perfect like clown delivery of like what's the dumbest thing you could do with like all this Incerity in your heart and like do it in the best way humanly possible And then be like wasn't that amazing after telling the worst joke ever and then just Keep on going the ticks that you do that I really find amazing. I love the writing on the hand I just love looking at your hand. Well, so I used to never actually there was never anything on the hand I've seen it where it wasn't anything. Yeah, and then and then sometimes to stamp time when I like panic writing new jokes before I go out Where it's like five minutes before the show and I'm like Boys, I got nothing like we got to come up with something for tonight. Right and I'll panic right them on there But for the whole show though always the gag was there was never anything on here because I've seen you show that there's nothing on your hand I think it's extremely funny to look down at your hand great comedic ticks of like it's almost like you're a professional open-micre Like yeah, he like he's incredibly experienced, but he does all the same tropes that you would do if you just begun your career Well, this was always what we would do for Tucker's bios or any of his like web copy It was like he's toward all over the world from like like he or like a uh Oh, what was it? It was like a regular on like the upstate New York regional comedy scene He's been all over the world from New York to Manhattan to Brooklyn It's like that's all he's and we're also like but he's also maybe never even been to New York Yeah, no, I would imagine he never got to New York. No, he never made it to the city But he knows everybody but he also knows no one and we our our lore for him was that he lives in the basement of in China town of like a noodle shop and eats barrels of fermented noodles and gets what's called noodle noggin And so he has like a bit psychosis all the time his best friends is rubber chicken chicken love check and we were saying He just doesn't like live and he doesn't even live anywhere. He just kind of like spawns there and it's just like lurking Right all the time. We we we pitched a show called jack Tucker wanders of the world where he's just wandering around wondering what the hell's going on Like that. I like I like to me. That's him. He's just like somewhere like he right now I know he's has to be in Austin tomorrow for some shows he does and I don't know how he's gonna get there But he doesn't fly right? Um, I think he's afraid to fly. I don't know if he's allowed to fly He's trying to bring gun. Well, I've I've gotten trouble bringing like fake dynamite and guns and bags of money on We say freaked out. Yeah, dude. I think I was not a good move. I've gotten in trouble a few times Or I have to like I'll get in front of it and be like I'm a comedian I'm just these are props. I'm just joking. They're not real and they're like oh your comedian tell us a joke I don't really tell jokes and then I got like absolutely eaten alive by a T.S. agent and Syracuse who's like Get a load of this guy. He's a comedian. He doesn't tell any freaking jokes and everyone's like pissing themselves And I'm like, you know, I've rubber chickens in my bag like a snake in a can pops out. It's like so embarrassing But they're not wrong. No, they're not wrong. No, what's the alternatives that you have to ship it? Don't we ship stuff sometimes? Sometimes we're just so expensive Because otherwise you got a pack and then you're carrying what if you have fake dynamite? What do you? I usually put it always under the plane, but I've forgotten sometimes But it's like it just doesn't have to play and then they still scan it. Don't they? Of course And I sometimes would write like a little letter. That was on top of like these are all props for a comedy show Right or I would tape it on my suitcase. I feel like it's easier to bring it through Carry on because that way you can show them and talk to them. Yeah, it's under the plane Imagine they pull you off the plane. They found something in your bag Well, they always search my bag like always my bag. It's your you got to be flagged now. Oh But luckily they've it's been the same dynamite for seven years Same dynamite same type of dynamite same type of that. I got in trouble actually going to France recently when I was this was just like so embarrassing I was going through the Eurostar and they they have like And it was the French side so I was trying to flex my French a little bit as I was trying to come through And I realized I had all my props and I was like actually I don't know how to talk about this at all I don't know how to express that this is yeah, so I was like hey, I'm a comedian I have all these fake props. I don't need this like you can throw them away And the guy was like you can't have this in here if like we see this we're gonna trouble I'm like please take it out and he's like look we'll run it through and see how it goes It runs through it's all fine and he goes you're all good And I was like oh thank you man, and I lift my bag off I put it on the ground and immediately I forgot I had a megaphone in there and the alarm starts going off and like Like this and I freak out. I open my bag, dude. There's nine rubber chickens. There's like there's a fake There's bags for there's money bags money and guns and I'm like I'm like absolutely like doing this and I like pop the battery out and kind of like put it away like a Like this and like I'm so sorry, you know put it back in there and I lift the bag back up and you just hear like It's like all the chickens going off It's it's so and then and then like someone came up to me and was like Dude, I like I love your videos and I looked back at the guy watching me being like who the fuck is this guy? Cuz I don't look cool either I'm like so tired and hungover like He's a moment for comedy. It's that somebody goes dude huge fan and the TSA guys like what the fuck is going? I don't know who you are like you all feel like I set up like you hired him to show that it feels like I'm prank I'm like I'm not impractical joking you I'm like actually just trying to go to my friend Maddie's house again shout out good maddie Sal Merv come on reveal Yeah, truly on this episode of impractical jokers were Clothes across the board. Yeah, Clothes across the board are the worst people to send through with all of the All of everything that they have with it. Well Bob got busted Where were we with the dildo that went off for the vibrant that one? We're in Australia. He had a pocket pussy Yeah, we're overseas and he has a he is a pocket, but he and it's a pretty advanced one This one is very close into the wall. It's very high-end so funny. Well, you never leave home without it No, of course we're going through customs and it's like a huge to do like they're making a very big deal out of it And they're like we don't have it they don't have pre-check So we have to go through normal security for the first time you know who doesn't have pre-check? It's they don't have it. No, there's no there's no of course you're in general admission And also you're an American so you get to get in line with other fucking Americans. Yeah. Yeah, so forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever And then Sydney was a really nice place I love going to Melbourne Their coffee was crazy. What about Perth? Have you heard of Perth? I hear it's the the furthest out - Most isolated, major city in the world. (laughing) - It's a person a hell of a whole lot. I would never go back unless they paid me. Unless they paid me nice. - And they paid you nice, you will go back. - I will go back and I will retract that statement. - I'll go back to that weird sink and give me a Midwesterners idea of Australia. - Oh, Australia is crazy. I heard a bugs are freaking huge down there. What they come in there to crawl into your freaking pants make you have to take a crap. (laughing) - It's kind of like my aunt kind of. - Yeah. - I hear you went down there to Australia's. - Yeah. - What do they do down there? You know the biggest problem with it is if anything happens, you're so fired from home, what are you gonna do? Get on an airplane, your grandma dies. You're stuck in Australia? What do you get home two days later? How many days behind are they? - Yeah, and what are they gonna, they're gonna bury her up in a sky 'cause it's all upside down. - It's all upside down there. - When you flush your poop, does it float? - Does it float, like NASA? - Like NASA? - You got NASA coming out of your ass? - Oh, I'm bad, I'm bad. (laughing) - My favorite is like Midwest jokes that are like that, but they really believe it's like, "No, no, the spiders are bigger than humans." - Yeah, you're like, they're not. - No, they're not, they're just like the, "Yes, they are, I saw it on a documentary." - Oh, oh, our national geographic. They had a whole piece about these spiders. - They're always running out of breath. - These spiders are out there. - So my brother does a character called Chicago Dave, which is based off the 50/50 Raffle Guy at the Bulls Game. - Oh, love that guy. - And he would always go, "50/50, you gotta pay it up, play." Here you go, here's your chance. - And it's always about like, you know, don't take this the wrong way, pal. You know, I have to go, I have to go drop the kids off the pool. Don't be careful now, you know? And then there was one guy at the game for real that he, through there was like a Bulls Game. This is like peak their gross era, where he hit a three and one guy turned to the guy like next to him that was in front of us, and he went, "Gosh, I haven't seen the United Center. This hot center, Rodman was dating Madonna." (laughing) - That's like, every time there's a good mood in the room or a good crowd, like we'll look at each other. I'm like, wow, really? He feels like Rodman and Madonna are out of your mind. - You know, a little code word to each other. - Rodman and Madonna. Remember that when he was staying there? (laughing) - I always say Chicagoans all know, they all think everybody knows everybody. - Oh, and they do. - Remember Marcus's brother who you used to work off a Polesky, was he the one that worked at Minards? - He was at his cousin. - No, that's his cousin. His cousin worked at Minards. In fact, his sister was the store manager. - Oh, he's coming. - Yeah, they were gonna get out of breath. - He's gonna get out of breath, it's unbelievable. I don't know why they're like tired, they just gotta get it all out. - Oh yeah, he was at Marmoosa. - His sister went to a Tulane, she should go there? - I think she did, she studied communicators. - Oh yeah, her, you know what? Look, her nephew, he was played in basketball, but when he was young and he played on those new chair teams, I'll tell you, he had a bad attitude. Well, he said he'd get in the head, he'd get in the head, you know, fights with the coach. - Yeah. - And coach would have to banch 'em, he'd be bitchin' the whole time. And let me tell you something, you don't fight with your coach. No, especially if you don't want, if you're trying to get the snacks, he's gettin' none of those little rich crackers in that company's son, nothing else. - No snacks. - Oh, man, it's over. Anyway, so I took the kid and Luma Lottie's last night, they complained the whole time, pizza takes too long to get there. I'd give it a minute. I didn't think I closed it in time. Didn't have enough time to make it downtown. - Down carriage, go to Portillo's, couldn't even get myself a freaking rack of ribs. Bernale's a shot, it's just a normal Portillo's. So I gotta go back on the Dan Ryan. - Dan Ryan. - Dan Ryan. - It's the greatest, it's the greatest cultural accent from a regional standpoint. There is nothing stronger. It's, there's nothing stronger. New York has a funny bit. You know, when SNL does New York bits, I'm always like, eh, I don't know. - I think it's, I think it's when you see it, when you hear a real Bronx guy, you're like, oh, you fuckin' rule. - Yeah, that's different, yeah. But no one really characterizes that well because there's so much like, there's like guttural vigor inside of those New York accents. But Chicago, I don't care who it is, it sounds funny. - Always. - Even the most like, even someone that works like the Mercantiel Exchange downtown, some like, but he's still got this accent, you know, that's your dead. He's still got a half dead, like deep Chicago accent. My dad says Chicago, which is here, Chicago. - We have Chicago, Chicago. - Chicago or Chicago? - Cafe, coffee. I met a friend of a friend who called it, who called it Milfago. - Milfago? - Milfago, he goes, the amount of Milf's we went there. It was unbelievable, these guys, these East Coast guys were like, we went to Chicago, biggest Milf city in the world and I thought, that could be true. - Hey, that's my mother you're talkin' about, right? You better watch yourself. - You better watch your tone. You better watch your tone, I'll send you out. I also think like, this is also just the fun part is like, I love hearing anyone speak English in any accent. - You mean too. - And especially in, like to me, I speak the littlest bit of Norwegian that Vigo has taught me. - Can you give me some? - But it's so stupid. - What is that just with? - I'm not a vampire, but I suck blood. (laughing) And so to me, how I am pointing in the Norway, it's a sound like this in the Norwegian. And it's like, yeah, it's just funny if I was speaking like this and someone heard that. - Right. - And with London, the UK, we have great relationship in the UK because they love, they love to make fun of me. I love to make fun of them, but I love them. And I think they love me. - I know they love you. - I love them there. And it's like, I just, every time I hear it, I feel bad 'cause I'm mimic. I don't know if you do too, but I'm mimic accent, of course, all the time. - I find myself when I go to France, I go, "Pedal, why am I saying that?" - Truly, and then I don't need to do that. - Dude, you know what the worst is? Is when I'm in London too much, I get this little thing a little bit. - Yeah, you ride again. - And then I come back here and I just, I'm like a fucking whacked job. And I'm saying words, like I said, advert the other day, instead of advertisement or ad, and everyone's like, "Oh, Mr. European." - Man, fuck you, yeah, actually, yeah. - Advert does sound significantly better. - I know. - But certain things throw me off that I don't know how to get around it when they're the creators of the language, but when they say, "When we go like, oh, you went to the hospital." They go, "He went to hospital." - Yeah, yeah. - You're like, "You're missing." - I know. - And it sucks 'cause I've got some of those now. And then my English is only deteriorated over the last like 10 years. - Well, because you're playing so much. - And what is your actual language? Who are you? Do push-ins-lowly, push-ins-lowly, and add some music? Push-ins-lowly, add some music. - I guess if I had to pick one little pick, I guess I'd probably be like, one of those fat heads that you blew up and put on the old convenience storage of like, you know, dick-buck is her red-hacker. - I've never been in an air basement. You see how many autographs is there? - Yeah. - See this? See this right here? - Right here. - This is Ted Lilley. It comes a few years. Lefty, South Paw. - Had a hook. - Had a hook that everybody did. - His brother-in-law, he was a state farm agent. And he ensured they did our insurance, one of those insurance things. So you know who spoke at those, Tim Reigns from The Whitesacks, Tim The Rock Reigns did a whole thing for them. - And that's how he-- - Don't even give me on that Frank Thomas guy. I started that hair treatment. I saw him on those freaking billboards. I mean, he was as bald as a baby's bottom. - Yes, he sure was. - And now he sure was. - Now he's got a whole freaking rainforest. I say, put him in the Amazon, and I'll breed better, you know? (laughing) But it's like, I can do these forever. This is how we-- - This is so much fun. - In here, we pour whistle, whistle. - How am I, Shady Reigns, basically the same quality as the $200 sunglasses I used to buy? I don't know why I had that accident, but I love it. - Shady Reigns. - I want to say it like that. I'm not exaggerating. These feel everybody's premium as the expensive brands that I've owned before. But I'm stressing about these, baby. Okay? No big deal. I've got to give him to a friend, you rock him, right? Or if I lose him. 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Try for yourself the shades rated five stars by over 300,000 people. (upbeat music) "Ginger, I like to injure myself." We've been playing, again, shout out to my other friend Kyle Legacy. Me and my brother and Vigo have been hanging out a lot lately, and we were just playing some bullshit video game, and we were doing it as our friend Kyle. He's a fucking guy from Liverpool. He's a fucking scouser. He's like, "Oh, I'll put in the fucking net." I'm right here, here we go. And just doing this all day long. And just do him. And then eventually, yesterday, I think I hit a point of Mania, where I was like, "Guys, I need to step outside for a second." I've like, I've like, jumbled my brain so far that I-- You think you might be that, for sure. You're like, am I masquerading as who I used to be? For sure, or am I still the same? Even in the UK, I'm always like, "Oh, I brought that one." I brought the one. I'm like, "Go on, lad, here we are for butts." And we're booked. Yeah, I'm like, "Oh, yeah." I do love all right. All right, mate. All right, mate. All right, is the greatest friend. All right, mate, you all right. All right, it's such a beautiful way of saying hello. Yeah, I know. 'Cause we do the bullshit. What do we say all the time? How are you? How are you? Yeah, shut up. And then this thing, this whole, like, thank you for asking. Yeah. Which is also, we don't mean either side of that. Not at all. And we're like, "What a bitch." That's all I want to say. That's what we really want to say. That's it all the time. Which is all right, mate. All right, mate, it's all right. Like, say, "Get fucked, Neri. What's going on?" Yeah, you see, everyone's like, "Oh, and go on. Deja way. Go on Deja way. Deja way. Propacantini. The fucking Fatal Cut. I love that shit. And then I get, like, we say with our crew, 'cause, you know, we lived, like, strategically nomadic, which is, like, the nice way of saying homeless for a while without home. Without home. Yeah, without home. We were without roof. But that, you know, I think that's actually unfair to people who don't because we were being led into places in a, you know, worst-case scenario. You just moved seamlessly through time. You were just living as an artist. It's kind of just skirting through the world. Skiergap! Where is your permanent residence then? Uh, technically. Is the government going to listen to this or? No. Okay, yeah. Um, uh, uh, uh, some random S-Corp and Delaware? Good. Not smart. Smart. Yeah, no, I am. I'm living in Montana for quite a while. Hmm. I'm visiting Los Angeles, actually. I don't live here, though. That's why my car's not registered here in Lidger. I've said too much. Hey, you know, I know a lawyer. My cousin's in a attorney. Now, he doesn't practice no more, but he knows a lot of good people coming up. Francis, oh, Francis Teraci, do you remember that? Of course, of course I remember him. Lawyer attorney, the Francis Teraci. That, that one there was, I mean, a minority was like always a classic. Say big money at my heart today. So good. Why was the today so necessary? We also, every time I do the Chicago shows, we use it as a hot key. And I'll bring up minorids and then nobody will do it. I'm like, I'm sorry, it's no one from this fucking city. Like I'll do some stuff. People don't catch that. Some of them don't. I think there's more transplants there than there aren't anymore. How does this happen? This might be before your time, though. Oh, no, what was that? It must be Eagleman. I've got something for you. I do remember Eagleman. And a big bird would shit a fucking, uh, he would shit an egg on their car and she goes, "Oh, wow. Look at those low rates." That's what I'm afraid of. It must be Eagleman. Oh, yeah. Or that old car's worth money. He pulls the car door off the victory auto records. That was our Chicago style softball team when I started a, I was in a 16-inch no glove here in LA and we started, uh, everyone had team names. You know, there was like the red line or like the dick of, dick of dogs or whatever. That's awesome. And we were victory auto records. One of the greatest, uh, the greatest auto body shop city. Oh, my God. Sorry. Dude, Francis Duraci is un. Peter Francis Duraci. That is like fully opening a little crack in my brain. Like now I'm thinking of like Pula Rama on 41 North. Like I'm like, well, yeah, you got to get your play set from there if you're going to get one. If you're going to get one, you got to get it from up there. You got to go to Pula Rama. They just, they, they just do it better up there. The wood is stained real nice. But like this is, I mean, this is also all we bring me back all day long because it, then it, then it, then it influences other stuff. Like is that kind of started, was that the beginning of Jack, like did Jack birth from this kind of goofing thing talking goofing into something? So yes. So I mean, we've been talking and goo, I think I feel confident that I've been talking and goofing in a way that has led to this maybe for about 10 years. With friends. With friends, with, with specifically like I was always a, a, a prankster and a jokester and I loved it. I wasn't funny at all. But like I, I like loved it. And then at clown school, I was funny twice in the two years once by accident, once kind of on purpose. Ask and trust me, ask anybody that I went to school with. I was not, I was well liked and I was enthusiastic. You just didn't, you didn't find it there. I was also 20, you know, I was 20 to 20. I was really young. And then Felipe would always say to me, like you'll get it, like it'll come in 10 years. It'll come in 10 years. He was right. He was right. God, he was right. Here I am now. $20,000. No savings, no debt. The car that doesn't work and an apartment that you, it looks more like a trap house than it does a home. But in a way, the trap house is my, he sounded like Gucci man over there. You're radric. Yanktug? Yeah. Yanktug, I like that guy. What'd you go see a coach? How are you? Yanktug, you see a lot of dude after his recoil case. Is that thunder? Is it a bomb? I don't know. That was creepily loud. It's still happening, right? It's a truck. So it sounded like an accident. For people at home, we just heard a wild noise. Yeah. It sounded like really loud thunder. Yeah. But it was, no, that's definitely not thunder. That had been something broke, bang, crash, big boom. That's kind of happened by the way you're going to be on the internet trying to look for what it might have been as if it could go up within seconds of it happening. I don't know why I just looked at that. Look at the weather. Well, we were going, it's not raining, is it? No. We were going, I was just back in Chicago and we were driving and of course, like, genuinely, right off 55 was like a massive fire, massive, and my mom's like, check to see online what the fire is. I'm like, it's happening right now. I don't know. Who's on Twitter? Like also fighting the fire on Twitter and be like, check this out. Check this out. And say, but that, but that is the new world that people do that like that guy in Ontario that lit the warehouse on fire. Yeah. Or, or even that was insane. He filmed it. Well, what about also the people in there? Was it in Switzerland or New Year's? They had like the ski loft that like lit fire because there was like a bottle service that little whole thing and then people were trapped. Oh my God. Like 50 people died, maybe even more and a bottle service person did it. It was like someone getting it and they like held it up. They held up like a sparkler to high. You know what I'm talking about, right? 41 people. 41 people. What? It was like injuries. Yeah. And it was like, and it was like a resort. And then there was people just on the other side of the glass filming being like, yo, what the fuck? And like not telling anyone. And I'm like, dude, smash a goddamn window like what are we again? That's thunder. I'm blood. My mind is blonde. It's something moving. Something upstairs. No. Everyone's it. This is like a post house upstairs. Oh my God. Stick my head outside. No, it's kind of fun. Yeah. I kind of like, imagine there's, we're just being bombed right now. Yeah. Yeah. Chicago access. Chicago. Topter all the stuff. Yeah. Wow. It reminds me of D day. Yeah. Kind of a little bit shorter. Store up the boats. We're, boys, we're sailing from Lake Michigan all the way to the Pacific. Yeah. Okay. What's your, what's your favorite great lake? Well, I mean, Michigan is an easy one to say. I mean, the superior is going to be the one that people talk about the most because of the name. Yeah. But, but because it's the best. No, it's literally not. Michigan is the best. And you know that. We're evidence, by the way, you're lucky. You're in the Midwest. You're too far west for us to even consider the Midwest and too far north to barely not even be Canadian. Yeah. So, honestly, you're not really one of us, but we'll let you have, yeah, fuck you, man. We let him have it. We let him have it the way we let Ohio have it where we're like, okay, because you're not the East Coast. No. Although you are on the Eastern time zone. Why? That's my biggest annoyance about them. Half of it's in Eastern time zone. And you're like, well, this doesn't make sense. That all. You're not one of us choose. Yeah. Just pick a pick. Well, here's the problem. We won't draft them. Yeah. Yeah. We don't want to lose them for numbers, but it's like, I don't want Ohio, but you can't take it from me. India is an old friend and Missouri is a buddy and Iowa, of course, is where everyone goes to college. Yeah. That's from Chicago. Go, Hawkeyes. Hawkeyes. And Wisconsin is the greatest secret in the Midwest. I will say that it's the greatest kept secret in the Midwest. Do you know where a lot of my childhood memories took place? A Lake Delavan. I mean, I'm sorry. At the Delse. Yeah. The Delse. Wisconsin Delse. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. Oh, it's crazy. You know, face, you can go on it. The makeup numbers, but everyone will buy it to go. I heard that thing goes 88 and a half miles an hour ago. 88. Holy shit. That's 20 more than a freaking highway. It's fished. Wait. Also, what's up? Okay. What's up with our 55 mile an hour speed. Do the do toggle Carlson's version of that real quick? No. What is he doing? He's like, he says what the phrase he says is he's like, he's just going on here. What's going on here? And California Liberals. Liberals zone. You can go 65, but you can kind of almost unpolicy. You can go 85. But in the Midwest, get this in the Midwest. 55. Cops all over. Ready to get you. It's a family zone. Anyways, I'm here with Kim Jong-un. Yeah. You are correct, though. The speed limit in Southern California is as fast as you can go. As fast as you can go as long as no one sees you. As long as nobody gets you. And by the way, I've had CHP pass me before on the freeway and I'm definitely speeding. And they fly past me because they've got other shit to worry about. Always. But in the Midwest, you're right. You have 55. A law we can live with. My dad says that all the time. A law. 55. It's a law we can live with. Is that not in a nutshell, the most like that is Chicago. That's Chicago spirit. Yeah. I'd still allow we could live with. Don't need the pressure. And honestly, how fast do you need to get there? Because they did. I read an article in the trip. They said if you go 10 miles an hour over to speed limit, you only save yourself by minute and a half. And on top of that as well, I hear you go too fast. Your brain, your neuron don't fire. You're not firing normal. So you're gonna miss stuff that's happening around you. Somebody's merging. And God forbid they don't put on a freaking blinker. What are not blinking? This guy, how is he driving like a dope? It's also, well, this is the difference. That's my dope. That's dope is a good idea. He's driving like a dope. That's this. You are unlocking every dad that I grew up with. And in such a wonderful way. Because my dad, my dad's from New York. I was with the New York. He's from New York. I almost reverse European to him. He's from hospital in New York. Hospital in New York. So he's New York guy who's been in Chicago land area now for, you know, his most of his life. I think now it's about half and half. Wow. Yeah, maybe a little over here. Did he have a New York accent? No, he kind of is like dead neutral. Yeah. He's like dead neutral American. He used to have more of a New York accent. He doesn't ever get Chicago, but I think when he's around New York people more, it'll. It pops out. It pops out. That happens when I go back to Chicago. It naturally starts to come out. Certain words. Yeah. I think I'm pretty good. I'm pretty broadcast English at this point. But I do have certain words that will pop out that I hear myself say that I'm like. Potatoes. Potatoes. Potato. Or if I say like a back. I will say eight sometimes more so than that. Eight. Yeah, back. Or there's an egg. I'm going to have an egg. No, I think you'll find it in stuff even more. But the accent does something to my youth because it's. Yeah. The 55-a-law we can live with sounds like everything in Chicago. Everything. Don't worry about it. It's going to be okay. What happened? But Chicago used to be like. I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm a little biased. I don't mean at all to shit on the city. I think, you know, when I left, that part of my life was over. Yeah. So I don't love to go back. I love to see my family, and I like to see my mom and dad and their aunt together. the other anymore, but they I like it, of course, of course. And so that's part of it. Probably I don't want to go there for those reasons. But on top of that, like, I just, I don't know, I didn't. I'd rather go to Paris or London or New York going home doesn't do the same thing. No, but I imagine if I wasn't from Chicago and I went to visit, I would think it fucking rocked. Yeah, I agree. But it Chicago rules, but it is different now than what I felt like it. Everything is different now than it was. And that's such a cliche, nonsensical thing because of COVID. It did that to everywhere. But some cities managed to bounce back in a way that that New York is the same. Better than ever. Yeah, it feels better than ever. It stinks. It's I was just there last week and I was like, God, a fucking. They're back. Yeah, New York is back. And they know it changed. It's different. I mean, and I don't live there anymore. So I don't know. But every time I go back, it doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like it. It doesn't feel like the place that was like the birthplace of like gritty fun jazz music or like or blues or like or even any good hip hop. I'm like, I can't name a good Chicago rapper. That's come out in the last 10 and I know I'm not really into with enough of it. He might know better than I do, but I think because I'm like, who is are we hung our hats on chance? And then he who I loved my wife, his way out of his own career. Sob is pretty good. Yeah. But he also was dropping. But then we had this big then we had this big influx of rappers flying in the danger zone who end up getting murdered or going away or I guess you a dirt in light. Yeah, it's like such a dangerous point in Chicago rap when you're like, dude, this is all murder based. This is bad. This is like not a good. I don't know. It's almost like the glorification of gangster rap for when I was a kid. It was so incredible because it was an answer to a time. That's what it was. But it only got very real when they actually started dying. But in Chicago, rappers were like going into it ready to die. Ready to die. It wasn't like a, it wasn't a great arc story arc. It was like, we will shoot and kill and that's why I feel to me. I mean, I listen to, I listen to a lot of music, but I listen definitely most to hip hop barbie and rap. And like to me, it is the music of the people, it is the music of the streets. And I don't, I think some people obviously are like, you know, the way that online, you can have some creators that are making absolute dog shit and some that are making amazing stuff. And you, it's just how you look at it. You can't generalize all of it. But I, I think a lot of them, it was like, this was just their way to express the way that they're living. And there was others that were like, oh, no, I'm still fucking around that I'm still going to keep doing this. It's like, or the people like that Takashi, six, nine, so we're like trying to do this and you're just actually making everyone's lives worse and you're like, man, get the fuck out of here. It's an incredible, a, a performative, it's crazy. It's kind of a case study for success in, in the entertainment industry that you're like in his era. You can kind of manufacture everything. He also, just as a Latino guy, just says the N word all the time and everyone's like, okay, I guess he does. And you're like, but he's kind of like self, he's self admittedly manufactured, right? He like, he admits that like, he wasn't involved in that stuff, didn't want to be, it was all fake. And they still kind of, but then still talks, he's like, oh, I got shooters, I got bangers. It's why he's asked kicked all the time, but it still works because obviously somebody's buying it. It's happening, right? But I'm like, I think he's, there's no way he's got like, there's, I don't know anyone who's like, let me throw in that Takashi. Yeah, but that's because of who you surround yourself with. I guarantee you people are. Well, I'm hanging out with a lot of like freeze and I do, I do, we did on, well, I feel like I shouldn't talk about it on the bad game show. I don't want to give anything away. I want to give it away, but I should say that you make a wonderful guest appearance on the bad game show. I don't want to give anything away because at the time of my life, yeah, it's so annoying because I want to talk about it. But for the phase out there, it was fun because I feel like we, that was the first time we ever met in person. Yeah. But we had been crushing each other online. I was loving it. And then, and then I, I didn't tell Bobby this, but I, I had met Bobby. He would never remember. 15 years ago, I used to intern at UCB and he came, and he came through and was like doing stand-up set and I was like, this is so cool. Like, oh my God, it's Bobby. And then when I, I felt like he was on board with me being there, but I felt it wasn't until the bit where I was like, okay, he loves me now. You, you, with Bobby, you have to prove your love. Yeah. And by the way, and he has extremely loved, he loves heavy. If you prove your way in, he's not as open and accepting right away. He's very skeptical of people, but not in a negative way. I understand people want shit from him all the time, so I get it. And I'm like, hey man, I'm not trying to get anything, even with us, like I sent you a message to even do these with you. I'm like, hey, I just, I feel like we would really get along. I think it'd be a lot of fun. It's okay if it doesn't happen. And I feel like with Bobby, I'm like, yo man, I'm not trying to get anything from you. I just feel like we're going to fuck around really hard together and we're going to make each other laugh with you guys. I was dying, dude. I had tears in my eyes. I unfortunately couldn't even get through the bit. I was really, it was really hard. You know, sometimes I'm so like overly conscious of not breaking, right? We try really hard to just not break in a lot of different ways. But sometimes it's just, it's so hard to not break and you think, I guess I should just break and then keep it that way because I can't, I can't dance on both sides. So once I cracked, it was open. I had to let it go. I couldn't, I was like, I'm never going to be able to go backwards. You can't. No. And to me, I'm also like, I don't know. Between laughing at your own jokes and somebody making you make you laugh. I was killing me, dude. And that to me, I love, like, I love on Stamptown when people are cracking me the fuck up. Like, yeah, it's my dream. I'm surrounded with all of my friends who I think are the funniest people in the world. Having a blast. What else do you want? When you, when you, when you have a great rhythm with, I don't know how you even know how to say it, who, he who does sound for you. Yeah. You're our director? What is it, who is it? It's a sound guy, but it's so much more than that. I know. We always joke saying button man. Button man. Because it sounds so, it sounds like so dismissive. More button man. Yeah. More button man. Yeah. We were thinking, okay, what about this new character name, by the way, last night? We decided the name's delicious. Delicious, never malicious. Ooh. Delicious. I don't know how we got to him yesterday, but, oh, I think I know it's going to be in our show later. I don't say, don't give it away then. Okay. I like finding the new characters. We talked like when I tested for SNL and I came up with a terrible character that almost all of my friends said, don't input into the tape, but I did it anyway because it was the most fun to do. Sometimes it's not the funniest, but I did, I like his list here, the side one. So good. It's one of my favorite day friends. His name was Kalaamu Hamishin. I'm a YouTuber, he kept it the side. He's a sushi chef to the stars. Of course, please. And it's, I'm very few in speaking. So dumb. So dumb. And then I wrote this entire script of every piece of sushi he cut up had an S and it's somewhere. Yeah. So it just layered through the whole bit. But that just shows your skill. But you know what they said when I went out to fucking New York, when I went to test, they emailed they were like, no need to do the sushi chef bit. And I was like, that's my favorite's the most fun one, but I didn't do it because they were like, I don't think this is, you know, on that show, they're always like, and we're not going to talk about it. I'm just saying, we both, we talked about this. We did. We both have tested and we both have similar experiences. Yes. And they, they, they say you have to bring something that could most likely end up on the show. Yeah, obviously that's their business model. They want you to bring stuff that will probably that could get on the show. That's so funny because I brought them like, truthfully, some of, I did some of the funniest sets I've ever done in my life in those showcases. And I'd say zero that could live on the show. Right. That's the problem. But it's the problem. Deniably it was hilarious. It was funny. Dude, I can't believe I told you I threw an last minute character. I got the call from God because I was doing well. Yeah. And I was feeling good and I was like, fuck it, let's, like all these were meticulously planned. I knew what I was doing. Practice them. I practiced them and I was like, let me throw in a wild card of one I've never done in a set. I've only ever filmed in a video with my comedy partners. Insanely fun. And then you did this job. While you're on stage at 8H. Yeah, exactly. Lauren's there. And I'm like, here we go. And then I could just feed. I told you, as soon as I did that, I felt the vibe changed. As you know, everyone loves Kieran Culkin at a birthday party and everyone loves M&M forgetting about Dre. Two things I never want to do. But God forbid I do Dennis Cleese be driving instructor. You watch your hands at the car like, like, like a clock. We get 10 of the two. Look at this. It's like I'm driving by wrist. Whoa. Whoa. I was stuck in my throat. And I was just doing like, over and over and over. It was stuck in my pizza. And I just kept doing this and it wasn't funny at all. Yes it is. But in the end, and then I wish I could have zoomed out in that context and been like, guys, you might not be laughing at this, but like, isn't that so funny? It is. What's happening right now? It's almost like a calls for you to go, you stop her saying, go, guys, I'm just kidding around. I'm just having some fun. You just tell them, guys, I'm just joshin' up here. So that's the beauty about Tucker, as I think I really, like, my really good friend Tom, who I've just, I've mentioned a few times, Tom said that Tucker was the perfect case for me that it frames all of my sicknesses as superpowers. Oh, yes. Yeah. And like, like, you're a literacy and you're like, my racism, sexism, that's really the homophobia. No, no, I like to show that off as well. Tucker's quite class. Tucker's very classist. He hates, he couldn't finish first grade, he hates his classes, he hates that stuff. Oh, man, dude. Oh, my God. It's such a great character. And honestly. So fun, man. I love watching you. And also, you taped the special, you, you, you premiered the special a week ago. Yes. Right? Yeah. About, like, five days ago, yeah, Jesus. Oh my God. When are we airing? Hopefully, in the next week, I think we're aiming for a 420 release. We're going to go epic weed day so everyone can smoke some weed and watch their favorite little podium. Smoking weed all the time and day. No, no, no, no. So it's, you don't know when it's going to premiere. I'm not entirely, we're like going through the final mixes right now. We just had, because we're like prepping for this Netflix special. Yeah. And hopefully that one is awesome. And it's going to be awesome, dude. Oh, man. I went, there's this stuff. After, after we did your guys a show the other week, being chore, we're like, we gotta come up with something with the two of you guys, because again, you would both be so good on the show. Yes, dude. You make the call and I'll come do it. Whatever it is. Oh, I want to play. I want to play. So I'm thinking of a character for you called Black Andrew. You think I haven't done that? I go to 8H and my Kylo Ren Michaels. Uh, my name's Andrew Santino. First up, black Andrew. I turn around and he's rubbing his charcoal on my face. No, no, no, he's doing it. We've always wanted to do that. And Colin Joe should be like, yes, here it is. You see that, Jay? You make the call, we'll come by. I got to say, I love the two. There's chemistry. I don't know. I don't know if we need to talk about us and all in this podcast. No, but they're great. I do love the two of them. Well, one of the best. That's, again, it's just you find your buddy that you just fuck around with and they love, like, that's the thing. They love to put each other in the shit and they both know it's safe to do that because it's like, of course, I think when people on the internet project this like, nastiness or, and then this, they put the nastiness onto you, which makes you feel like you can't take risks to try stuff. It's like, people go, oh, because you want to be an edge lord and it's like, no, dude, I'm not trying to cause any pain to anybody. No. I'm just trying to say something fucked and funny. Yeah. If you do that, then everything becomes distilled and sucks and the only thing we watch is like, here's like the five different types of water bottles. If you're a plastic water bottle, you're a dork. You're a dork. And then it's kind of like, you know what a bottle says about you. Oh, I hate those people. I'm like, literally, die. We don't need that. It's making us stupid and crazy, man. And I get it. It's all true. I hate it. We need to be able to play. Yeah. I'm excited for the special. Oh my God, for the taping. Whatever you want me to do, do it. Please. Is there anything you want to plug before we disappear into the world? Oh my God, I can't believe this is over. I mean, it's so much fun. Yeah. There's a nice little mom and pop shop down in the Evanston. You guys will love it called Buffalo Joe's. No, I guess, yeah, the Jack Tucker special once that out, it's going to be on YouTube. It's going to be probably the most expensive YouTube special that's existed that cannot monetize. I cannot, hold on, I cannot push this enough that I think it's one of the most groundbreakingly funny, honest, wild characters where you can disappear as an audience member and not feel self conscious about like enjoying the party. I'm saying that the audience, I'm not going to compliment you because I know you get all blushing and shy when I do stuff like that. But it is, it's really fun and I really, really highly encourage people to go watch it because I do think it's not like other stuff you've seen. You see, you see a lot of other stuff. There's a lot of stuff out there. There's a lot of comedy out there, especially today, every fucking Netflix special that comes out. Great. There's a lot of funny stuff, but this is remarkably unique and so I'm just, anyway, keep going. So yeah, I feel a lot of times when I try, maybe this is good to put it on camera, so I remember this is like, I try to never get bitter. I try to only ever use that like fuel to not like get caught in a rut, but to like fling out of there and just stay inspired and hungry. But I feel like we're still, me and Vigo talked about this last night. I think our strength is performers is to be able to meet the moment and we can meet the moment and take people wherever they need to go and we will do anything for as long as they want to watch it. And I feel like with a lot of the art that we've made throughout our careers, it's not ahead of the time in a hubris self sucking your own cock away, but it's like they are not there yet, but we made something that I feel is good enough to get the full treatment. Yeah. And that's what I feel with Tucker. I believe it like I trust me. I'm the first person to hate everything that I make. Yeah, you should. And I do. Yeah. And I still feel that. Me too. And that's the only reason why I think that's what makes me a good producer and a good performer. And you know, I don't ever want that hunger to die. And I'm also like, yes, I'm thrilled that this will ultimately be put on YouTube and everyone will be able to see it. And I'm also bummed that I'm like, damn, y'all like look at all these other people getting so much money and so many opportunities to make absolute bullshit. But ultimately, I'm like, stay with it, like keep your head down, eyes on your own paper, like keep dreaming and do this and like, you know, but, yeah, it sucks to feel pathetic sometimes. But I'm like, well, that's a clown. I'm a clown. You're a clown. And what matters more than anything is that you're getting to create your own world having a good time. What we did with that game show is really like every night we went home and we were all like, I guess we got to make that, you know, like we got to make this fun party thing. No one's really making money on that show. We lost a pretty good amount of money making it. But I was like, at least we're having a really fun time and there nobody, nobody told us you can't. Nobody went, guys, no one's coming up to you being like, hey man, I don't think, I don't think Jack can say that. You're like, no, he can. That's the world we're making. It's all fake. It's all fantasy town. Yeah. So let's live in fantasy town forever. I would love that. That's my dream. Do me one favor before you go say one word or one phrase into that camera right there. One word or a phrase. It used to be, it used to be a word. And then some people want to leave a phrase of wisdom or you could just leave it something simple. It's up to you whenever you're ready. I'll leave you all with my favorite, my favorite quote. From Roger Davis, the aforementioned Gucci main. If you don't got no sauce, you lost. But you could also get lost in the sauce. And here we pull wisdom, wisdom, wisdom, wisdom, wisdom. Oh, that creature in the ginger beard. Sturdy, ginger. Like that, has the ginger gene intricate. Ginger's a fugitive. You only five dollars for the whiskey. 75 dollars for the whole. This whiskey means excellent. Ginger. I like ginger. I like ginger.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Andrew Santino shares his comedic journey, including early life experiences and being kicked out of temples for playing pranks and defying traditions.
  2. He recounts a humorous anecdote about meeting Barack Obama at a Jewish basement event, which he reflects on as a symbol of stereotypical anti-Semitic tropes.
  3. Santino discusses his time at a clown school in France, where he learned physical comedy, game-based performance, and the importance of playful, non-judgmental humor.
  4. He emphasizes the value of intent, accountability, and cultural sensitivity in comedy, sharing a personal mistake where he misused a name, which was corrected with humility.
  5. He highlights the diversity of his experiences, including living with international students, learning French through immersion, and being influenced by artists like Kanye West and stand-up legends.
  6. Santino introduces his alter ego, "Jack Tucker," a fictional, eccentric character used in comedy to explore absurdity and contrast his own identity.
  7. The episode promotes Square Space as a platform for building websites, with a 10% discount code for listeners.

Summary:

Andrew Santino reflects on his personal and comedic journey, rooted in rebellion and playful non-conformity. From being expelled from Jewish temples for dancing to music and wearing a baseball uniform, he shares how his childhood defiance shaped his identity as a comic performer. He recounts a humorous yet poignant anecdote about meeting Barack Obama at a Jewish community event, which he sees as emblematic of cultural stereotypes and anti-Semitism.

Santino emphasizes the importance of intention, humility, and cultural awareness in comedy, drawing from his experience at a French clown school, where he learned physical comedy, game-based performance, and the value of laughter without judgment. He discusses how physical humor transcends language and culture, resonating universally. He also introduces his alter ego, Jack Tucker, a fictional, eccentric character used to explore absurdity and comedic contrast.

The episode concludes with a promotion of Square Space, offering a 10% discount for listeners using the code "whiskey," encouraging creative online presence. Through storytelling, Santino blends personal history, cultural insight, and comedy to celebrate the power of play, connection, and self-expression.

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I'll be at the Sound in Delmar, by the Delmar Fairgrounds on June 28th.

I'll be at the AmeriStar Casino on St. Charles, Missouri (near St. Louis) on July 24th.

The drink combines whiskey with ginger beer, and the creator believes ginger has a strong, almost 'fugitive' presence in the mix, making it a bold and unique flavor.

I was kicked out for goofing around during services, such as dancing, playing music through speakers, and not following rules — especially at age 5, 8, and 12.

I responded with humor, saying that to succeed in America, one must shave their mustache, which led to a humorous and memorable exchange that eventually caused the teacher to leave.

I attended a clown school in France, where I learned physical comedy, game-based performance, and the importance of playful, non-judgmental humor that transcends language and culture.

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