Zach Bush: A Wake-Up Call for Humanity: The Truth About Our Collapsing System and the Future of Health for Humanity and the Planet

[Music] Let's be honest, our world is on a brink of collapse. Our economic system is designed to maximize profits. Often, at the expense of the health and safety of you, and the health of our environment, the shift from valuing nature and the holistic principles to focus on the chemical compounds, at the wealth creation precipice has led to an unprecedented level of mental health, chronic inflammation, heart disease, cancer, and reliance on heavily processed foods with extreme environmental damage, including pollution and over exploitation of our resources. I know, it's a bummer, but we have to face it to change it. That's why in this episode of the podcast, I'm joined with my good friend, Dr. Zach Busch, who dives into the truths about our failing system, the detrimental health effects of ultra-processed food, and the incredible power. The incredible power nature has to heal and restore. In my opinion, this episode was powerful. It's a wake-up call to humanity, to confront these shocking truths, acknowledging that these are our issues and what we can actively work towards, making a better reality for ourselves. Dr. Zach Busch is a physician who specialized in internal medicine, under canology, hospice, and a variety of other things. Now, he is internationally recognized as an educator and a thought leader on the microbiome as it relates to the health and disease of us and our food systems. Zach founded Sarah Frick Group, and also the very important non-profit farmers footprint to help transition farmers and also discover and remedy the root cause of what's going on, our conventional farming, into regenerative ecological systems that are there to thrive. Creating food for us from nature to you. You are listening to The Darren Alin Show. I am Darren, and it is my life's mission to find and share healthy and sustainable ways of living. In this podcast, I talk to inspiring people and professionals from around the world to uncover ways that we as humans can improve our lifestyles, strengthen our mindsets, and take better care of this beautiful planet we call home. If you're looking for motivation to take the next steps towards a happier, healthier life, then you're in the right place, and I'm stoked that you're here. So let's do this. This is my show The Darren Alin Show. Before we dive into today's episode with Zach, I'd first like to thank our sponsors. As I was doing a lot of research for the Fatal Convenience's book, I realized the science was very clear on this, in fact, EMFs or electromagnetic fields. The information that is carrying through radio waves that power all our devices are in fact biologically active, meaning that it can hurt us. It affects us. As a scientist say, without a doubt, there is harm. It needs more studies. They do have a negative biological impact on us. So EMFs are part of our toxic load. 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And even though 30 years of on the side learning about how our modern day world is affecting us and you know when you actually look, when you actually research, when you actually read it's further and deeper and broader and more intense and then summarizing something that's almost infinite and systematic well before your own birth. It's a challenge, right? And so selfishly I want to talk to you about some of this stuff and the fatal conveniences as I've termed. And clearly it means a lot to me. My dad suffered directly as a result of multiple chemical sensitivities and I saw as demise and I saw as alcoholism rear its head and he passed away as a result. So this means a lot to me and it also you've dedicated yourself to understanding some of the compounds at the at the core of the ripping apart literally and figuratively of our system of our metabolic systems of our stuff. So let's talk I guess a little bit about food, the thing that we have to consume. But that is most of it 60% of the adult population 70% of the children are getting mostly eating ultra-processed food, most of which is other foods manipulated into other mulifiers compounds, flow agents, you name it and of course the pesticide, the herbicides, the glyphosate. So let's talk about this world of ultra-processed food and maybe where I struggle with this, let me just get to my thought, but I struggle with this and not so much anymore, but you know we've come from this antiquated thing of calories and calories out either just read a recent study where the same calories, same timing and people eating whole food as their calorie and then ultra-process and people because of the disruption that it's having on the body, they're gaining weight. So the games now completely thrown out of proportion, you're not eating whole food, you're not getting those same results as the body understands them and we've created this franken food kind of scenario. What can we do and from your perspective, how can we start to write the ship of this monumental, horrible shift we've made in the 60s and 70s and now even now expressing itself even worse now? Yeah, huge issue and to get at the heart of that I think it's helpful maybe to back up one extra 50 year period to about 1910. And when we look at food, it's long been understood by philosophers ages back, but also by the field of medicine that our food is our medicine and that got popularized by hypocrites and saying that 2000 years ago in Greece, but 5000 years before him, the Chinese medical community was saying your food is the medicine. And from that, we got Chinese herbal medicine. So for 5000 years before the Greeks, you've got Chinese herbalism coming out as, and deeply proven science and deeply proven and I respect it as well. Iarveda same time period, 9,000 years back. Iarveda comes out and says, here's how food is not only your medicine, here's how you put food together to be optimal for your constitutions. Chinese medicine and Iarveda were very personalized. We don't have personalized medicine, now a pathic medicine today. It's like one blood pressure medicine fits everybody. You know, one diabetes drug, well, I should fix diabetes and everybody. Iarveda and Chinese medicine understood that everybody's got a different constitution and so first you evaluate the individual and then you tailor the medicine of the food to that individual's constitution to their exact, you know, premise from a metabolic standpoint. And so that's what we've come to ignore. So how did we do that? How did we drop 9,000 years of science? And we did that in basically a one or two decade period in the early 1900s and it was around something called the Flexner Report. And there was lots of different pressures that created this but I think the Flexner Report is an easy thing that anybody can Google and go to and be like, oh my gosh, this document set into motion the next 100 years. And what the Flexner Report basically did was it demonized or created a conspiracy theory out of herbal medicine and said all of that is just folklore. It's all, you know, unproven science. It's not even science, it's just, you know, myth. And so it turned that 9,000 years of data and 9,000 years of scientific practice into myth and a single document that was basically taken to Congress to say, hey, if you want a modern medical world, you're going to have to push all of this folklore out and let real science take the forefront. Who is behind the Flexner Report? The Flexner Report was funded by the Rockefellers. Certainly other players in the mix there, but that was the primary funding. And the Rockefellers at the time were obviously, you know, part of that kind of group of power leaders that were called the Robert Barons. You know, these were the ones that were the railroad system. They were moving in the energy sector forward and they were pretty much the oil and gas industry of that late 1800s, really 1900s. And so you've got a group of families that were dominating the American and therefore the international marketplace and these spaces in the Western mind at least. And, you know, as good business people will do is they look at the wrong ingredients they have and say how can we maximize our profits. And so that's not negligent, that's not the lignin human behavior. That's just good business. If like, all right, we have this wrong ingredient. How are we going to make some money? The wrong ingredient they were dealing with was oil. And oil, you know, at the time you're dealing with a few cents of gallon to sell for fuel. Well, there was a new science developing the late 1800s and the early 1800s, which is now really dominates our entire medical industry, which is called small molecule science. Small molecules are a way in which you start to work with organic chemistry, which is a description of carbon chemistry. Everything that's alive on this planet relies on carbon. And there's a funny kind of demonization of carbon going on right now in our pseudo science political science kind of realm, which is CO2 is the demon. Well, CO2 or carbon dioxide is actually the basis of life. And without CO2, no life lives on this planet. CO2 then builds into large complex carbon structures through its interaction with microbiome, which includes bacteria and fungi, but also includes little guys that live inside of plant cells or our cells that are called plant plastics or human mitochondria. All of these are bacteria of different sizes. And so bacteria inside the plant cell called a plastic has many different varieties, but what the most commonly known as chlorophyll. Chlorophyll takes CO2, builds into complex carbon chains. That ends up in the soil. And soil is basically an ecosystem of rich carbon molecules of many different sizes and substrates. And in that, it creates the medicine within our substrate. And that was where my life started terms realizing that soil had all that intelligence in it. Because up until my life of about 2010, I was interpreting Chinese medicine and all the other history of herbalism as all the medicines in the food. The deeper thing that got uncovered in my lab in 2012 was before it gets the food, it's in the soil. And the fact that the soil is carrying medicine was kind of news to me and maybe news to the industry large. But the beauty that we were seeing is that carbon ultimately turns into soil, which ultimately 200 million years later turns into oil. And so what the Rockefellers were actually holding when they said we're pumping oil out of the ground at incredible volumes and we can sell us in the world is they were actually holding the essence of life. And I don't think they even realized that. But scientists were starting to pull different substrates, different fractions of material out of that oil to create different versions or different distillations of carbon structures and seeing that they had biological effect. And so in the late 1800s, we started creating small molecules that could act as poisons and toxins for warfare. And so chemical warfare really came of age 1870s, 1880s, 1890s with a debut of small molecule stuff. And mustard gas and other things like this came on that substrate. And by 1898 or so, there was 16 different major countries around the world signed a treatise saying, we all agree. We're not going to develop this stuff into chemical warfare because it's too dangerous for the world. We'll kill the world with this stuff. Similar to the mindset of the nuclear age of like, oh my god, we just uncovered a power, a weapon that's just too great for humanity to handle. They saw that same thing in these small molecules. So there was an international treatise saying, no more small molecules for warfare. It's too dangerous for humankind. We'll go extinct. And most of the major countries signed on to that. All of the big powers. There was just a recognition universally of like, whoa, that's not a good place. We don't collectively, we shouldn't go that direction. So that's like 1898. 1910 rolls around and the Rockefeller's are realizing, yeah, but there's a lot of other molecules in here that might be beneficial in that poisons. And so maybe we could create drugs out of this stuff. And so we were starting moving that direction, aspirin, so bare pharmaceuticals coming out of Germany, aspirin was patented in that decade, 1906 kind of thing. And so you've got bare aspirin as a breakthrough drug for pain for all kinds of things. - Inspired, of course, by the natural compound. - Inspired by a plant medicine. So you've got a bark extract basically that is now turned into a drug. And the way in which they did that, the natural salicylic acid in the bark is then turned into a smaller molecule through processing. And so you asked about ultra processed foods, it started an ultra processed oil, which is old soil. And so ultra processing of soil or oil was the beginning of our realization that we could take a gallon of oil that's worth a few cents on the market for fuel into hundreds of dollars per gallon, if not tens of thousands of gallons, or dollars per gallon in the small molecule world. So that was the impetus behind Flexnarkport, like, oh my gosh, we could turn this into the mega wealth if we took this oil and turned it into small molecules. To do that, though, we're gonna convince people, we need to convince people that they don't know what medicine is yet. And because you can't actually patent an herb, you can't make money off of that other than, you know, fee for service basically. Then you're never in turn a pound of rosemary into anything more than a pound of rosemary, really. And so the realization was if we ultra processed things, we can actually create something that's patentable and can't be copied easily. And so the big dollar guys with big infrastructure can actually start to really monopolize this industry of medicine. And suddenly food was no longer the delivery system where herbs, the delivery system of medicine, small molecules held the big promise. And they were able to show something like aspirin and Bayer came out with their next breakthrough drug, which was heroin. And heroin was being sold through this year's catalog and actually marketed to housewives saying, here's a non-addictive morphine. - Non-addictive. - Non-addictive morphine was the pitch of like this is a safe morphine for your pain. And so serious catalog you could get your heroin, you know. And so it turned out that these were the first iterations of what small molecules could do for us. To do that, you have to heat them in different ways. You have to add chemical toxins that break the carbon bonds. You have to do things to get these molecules to do this new medicine. So the Flexinar Report was really seen as a major step forward of this is the modernization of medicine, you know, and that's how it was pitched. And so got pretty easy support from Congress 'cause you don't have a bunch of herbalists running the country at that point. And so you've got people who are thinking the US is gonna be this next stronghold of the industrial revolution to be there, to be at that forefront. The Flexinar Report was this big leap forward of the US is no longer gonna be second to Europe. We're gonna be number one. And you fast forward a hundred years later and it worked. We are the biggest pharmaceutical industry in the world by a long shot. And so we are really building that backbone of economic drive. And it was so successful that our $17 trillion a year GDP in the United States is almost $4 trillion in medical spending. And so your entire GDP is now about 20% or more in pharmaceutical things. So it was super successful. Like that hundred years of progress after the Flexinar Report, $4 trillion industry. That's what it was. or if it's our energy sector. And so here we had oil and gas turned into a much bigger sector. Our whole energy sector is around two trillion, something like that. As far as oil and gas goes, our entire food sector is around 1.8 trillion, something like that. So the amount of money we're making on pharmaceuticals is multiples of both of those food and oil industries. So that's kind of where it started and how it got there. As we went from small molecule soil slash oil to small molecule food, that was a 50 year journey that had long detours through chemical warfare. And so it turns out that by 1915, World War I is starting to break out. And you've got this situation by 1917, the entire European US can glomerate there fighting back the German enterprise and all this, going with the Ottoman empire and everything else. We re-nigged on the treatise of 1898 and said, you know what, we're going to use mustard gas. We're going to use some of these chemical warfare agents. And we did. And by 1916, we poured more mustard gas into the atmosphere than any other molecule had ever been delivered. In that following winter, 20 million people died of respiratory illness. And we claimed that it was Spanish flu. And so what's at the core of mustard gas? Mustard gas is a small molecule derivative of ultimately carbon molecules. It's organic chemistry put into action. So you've got an original compound that's again broken down into its derivatives. And it moved very slowly through the atmosphere. When you read on World War I, you read the stories from the trenches. They would watch the mustard gas rolling towards them as this slow moving greenish, yellow cloud that they could watch advance on them, unable to do anything about it for an hour before it hit them. And so it's moving at this extremely slow rate, because it's such a dense gas, basically. It would then choke out and kill people in the trenches and they're all bleeding from the membranes and tearing out. And just, it's hell on earth being under a mustard glass. Gas cloud, it tears apart all your respiratory membranes, your eyes, everything else, your sinuses are just weeping. So if you don't die from that, the lung, there's also a epidemiological side to that. Well, what happens then is that's mustard gas on the wharf field. But that then dissipates into the atmosphere globally over the next six months into this fine mist of mustard gas. And then respiratory season happens and the normal viral appearance happens every year. The immune system is shot. The lungs are torn apart because everybody's breathing trace amounts of mustard gas. Not enough that you can see in the atmosphere. So nobody's thinking, oh, we have mustard gas poisoning. And mustard gas was only one of the many chemical warfare is being played out in the European front by that time. It was so hell on earth. So any new virus, any new stress in the environment would pop up a new virus. As you've said many times, it happens that's normal part of the process everywhere all the time. And if your immune system loses relationship to those viruses, then it looks like the virus caused the problem. When in fact, what you really did was disrupt the relationship between your body and that genetic potential. Viruses are just genes waiting to be expressed if your body decides. And we now know that's the most system. It's reading and adapting to the environment. It gives you information so that your body can respond. But if your body's already beaten the hell, it has no ability to respond to that information. Or it wants the information. So this is the interesting paradigm when you start to realize that the viral, which is a description of the library of genetic potential. So the genetic potential of the planet expressed by every living cell on the planet contributes to this library. So you and I as genetic databases of biological things, as well as the earthworm, as well as the dog in the backyard, all those organisms are putting out new genetic opportunities. So we're misspelling our genes all the time. And we're putting out fragments of genetic code that aren't even genes. And so we're putting out lots of new genetic code all the time as well maybe somebody needs this information. Maybe somebody needs this new-- Sharing all of that. Biology is always sharing. And biology is always doing gain of function, which is a term that's been demonized like gain of function labs. Nature is the original gain of function laboratory. In a nature way, in a natural way, in a-- Natural or even unnatural perhaps. You know that we're starting to get a whole debut of information around extraterrestrial, nonhuman things going on from Congress right now and all that. So that's possible to me. So nature expressed widely, I say yes. And so that could be bacteria or it could be other intelligent beings helping accelerate some sort of genetic thing. Which is what we're going to do on Mars. If Elon Musk gets to Mars, I guarantee the first thing we're going to do is start building soil there. We're going to start making the possibility of life to re-occur there. And so we're going to go in and genetically modify that planet very quickly so that it starts to make microbes and biodiversity. And we're going to be using CRISPR and every other technology we can think of there on Mars to accelerate basically the evolution of life potential on that planet. If that's what we're already planning, you can imagine if there's other intelligent species out there, they're going to do the same thing. So I think we need to be very humble in our definition of nature. Nature's everything down to the microbes, to the most intelligent things in the universe. That's nature. We probably are somewhere in the middle bell curve of between bacteria and ancient species that have been around for millions of years before us. And so we're new on the scene. We're only a couple hundred thousand years old as a species that's like a drip in time. And so we're brand new on the scene. And yet we keep thinking we're this most intelligent thing in the system. And what we now know is the soil's far more intelligent than human behavior because the soil understands itself to be a complex ecosystem dependent on the complexity, which is to say the biodiversity. And so soil systems are only bearing life because they understand the importance of biodiversity. Humans, as a species, have increasingly committed ourselves to monoculture, destroy biodiversity every opportunity and create monoculture that we can control or feel safe in. And so it's this deep insecurity within us. So if we back up and say, OK, genetic potential became life on Earth. And then as we started to emerge into this technology journey of this is our technological expression as humans, which is to control nature for our convenience, for our wealth. And the purpose of the wealth is our comfort. So in that pursuit of comfort and ease, we started to divorce ourselves from nature. And the Flexner Report was not some new evil on the planet. It was a symptom of, oh, we need more wealth because our children will be more comfortable if we pass on more wealth. Not realizing that the downstream streams of starting to go from natural carbon molecules to these new chemical broken compounds that broke nature into its constituents rather than the whole. That was the beginning of monoculture at the chemical level. Instead of realizing that a beat is healthy for you because it has millions of different compounds in it. If we extract one of those compounds and then chemically modify it, now that becomes a blood pressure medicine or a diabetes medicine that we can create billions of dollars of revenue from, it was the forgetting that there was a hole at one point. And so how did we get to a highly processed, ultra-process food system? It was that steady march away from nature saying, we can create more wealth, security, comfort, and ease for the American household, for the American, you know, homemaker, if we make this thing super simple. And so here's Wonder Bread. So by the 1950s, you have Wonder Bread, you've got Twinkies, you've got TV dinners. So my dad was raised in the environment of Washington, DC when those things were coming in Vogue. And his parents were the new iteration of the liberated American. So my grandmother, super amazing career in politics and through that and my grandfather working for the White House, everything else. So they looked for all the world like the most successful family in the world. But to now allow for two incomes, two arcs of very business oriented things, you're making convenience more and more necessary to support this new way of life, which looked like, yeah, that's the empowered family. That's the new power couple. When in fact, it was the beginning of our demise in the household of nutrition. And therefore we birth, the mental health, you know, pandemic, we birth, the chronic inflammation pandemic and all that over the next 50 years. So that's, I guess, in a nutshell, a reflection of the fact that you know what? This wasn't some Darth Vader that popped in. This is really symptomatic of a deep wound within humanity that has forgotten that real wealth is our connection to nature and that when we really have the deepest joy, it's when we're watching a sunrise with those that we love next to us. When we're experiencing sunset with a great glass of wine that was produced on a multi-generational vineyard that has known that soil since the beginning of time and that wine is their blood. And they understand that that vine is the thing that not only creates commerce for them, but actually creates community for them. And people come together around their wine for this thing. And so it's that loss of memory, that disconnect, that deep wound of belief that we are against nature. Therefore we need to control nature for our survival and convenience that has led to this world of food we have today. Wow. I never put that together, but it makes so much sense in terms of like the change or the death by a thousand cuts, right? And that symptomology or that pathway of what can you do with this black ooze, cut it up in a lot of different expressions and make money on that. And of course the powerful people getting more powerful doing those things. And then of course in the food sector. And then it's all tied together from food to pharmaceuticals, to oil and gas and dependence. And we're born into this. So it takes a bit and you say it so well and the knowledge that you have. But it's like the thing that's obvious to me, we never voted on it. You and I were born into it. Our parents were even born into it. So all of these systems are just moving, right? They're moving. There's the pharmaceutical and the healthcare system. We're just okay with lucky charms. And it's just almost this growing apathy that's not 100% people's fault, right? Because it's this goddamn huge system that is sitting there. So how best, 'cause it's intense, bro, right? It's intense, man. Like every chapter I was like, didn't take a day off in two years, right? On my deck every fricking day. And I'm like, holy shit. Like out loud to myself almost every week. 'Cause you read this stuff and you're going, "Oh my God, it's overwhelming." And then when I find myself talking about it, the PFAS, the tri-close in, the Astrazine, the glyphosate, you're just like, and there's 9,000 chemicals it takes to make a t-shirt. You're like, "Oh, what the fuck, right?" And no one knowingly wants to buy clothes, buy food that is harming them, right? They don't want to buy clothes that has glyphosate that's ripping apart their digestive assimilation zone. They don't, but it's here. And that's where it's like, "I can't help, but we need a radical shift." And it's like, "Is it breaking enough?" You know, we see this shaking. I almost feel there's a speed wobble. That's happening because there's more evidence that's coming up, "Hell, I just read a research article that microplastics have been found in the heart." If that isn't so obviously crazy to me, that from every direction, the reductionism of this breaking apart to then capitalize, dominate out of the insecurity of it all is just leading to this cascade of side effects that the normal person can barely survive through. So I struggle, bro, like just like straight up, not even the podcast, like I struggle with like, "Okay, how do we tell this message?" And it's gnarly and intense. And then at the same time, people like you and people like, "We meet." I'm inspired every week, right? At the minimum, with renovation, inspiration, new technologies, new ways of doing things. So what are we, like, so yeah, man? So that's where I'm, I wanna keep swinging for the fences. I wanna keep doing my part in trying to write these, call it wrongs. And I agree with you. I think the start of some of these things weren't with malintent. So yeah, hey, cool, let's make a little more money off of this and this and this and this. And now the train is so far down the path for hundreds of years at this point for many of them. How do we like pull that back, you know? How do we, and we know if we do the right thing, follow nature that it is abundant. We know the protocol of the universe. If you plant one palm of granite seed, you get a tree and you get about, that's brilliant seeds. Yeah, you get 70 fruits and you get 700 seeds per fruit. And so that's where I always go back to the inspiration, but it's like, I mean, I know people are listening right now going holy shit, like, and this is but a start. And your work with seeing the absolute, and the fact that glyphosate is still being used, the fact that astrazine is still being used, the fact that, you know, pifos is still being used, the fact that all of these things are known in the science. The fact that we're run around with EMFs and we're flipping on more switches of more satellites and 40,000 satellites blasting us with smart city ideas and all of this shit, it's, it's, come on, man. (laughing) Come on, man. (laughing) Yeah. 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So there's advanced earthing technology and many other remediations of EMFs, shielding, blocking, all of that stuff, so many benefits to these devices. So go to Therasosh.com and you get 15% off or use the code Darren, D-A-R-I-N, and you will love what they have to offer. (drums beating) I mean, you described the crisis so well and I think we're all feeling that awareness growing. It's a new awareness for most of us in. It's difficult, it's difficult to take that information and it's difficult to integrate it 'cause frankly, we don't want to believe it at the cellular level and the power of denial is so potent. And so I am gonna be able to go to the grocery store tomorrow and pick out some foods and throw them in my grocery cart and pay a lot of money for those few groceries. And I'm gonna be able to eat that. Even though I know that that food has microplastics, life, say, atrazine 240 and all the rest in there. And so I have enough denial to allow me to persist in the human behaviors that have me moving forward. And I would say that there's eight billion of us on the planet with dense enough levels of denial to continue to do what we do. So if I'm able to go grocery shopping right now with everything I know, then how can I feel badly towards any other human? 'Cause most humans don't get to watch this stuff on our microscope every day. And I've been blessed for the last 14 years to be watching this stuff in real time to really digest the fact that we are blowing apart the human condition by these small molecules that we've introduced into our food and water systems globally. Let me preface this, I guess, by saying, I still believe deeply at my core that human beings are gonna hit the ball out of the park. So keep swinging for the fences people. Keep swinging for the fences because these next few years are gonna see a catastrophic end to a lot of systems that have kept the momentum going in the way that feels so unstoppable as you just described it. Those systems are actively collapsing and it's gonna take no effort for us to see them collapse because they're collapsing under their own weight of disparity from nature. And so when you despair on nature, nature has no choice but to eliminate you from the equation. And so the systems that have created this inevitable mounting momentum towards a destruction of nature itself towards the destruction of human species itself are actively collapsing because of their nature, their characteristics, which is anti-nature. And so to be anti-nature is to be anti-life, which is meaning your timeframe is extremely short within the cosmic story. So good news is this is Buckminster Fuller's vision coming to fruition, which is put no effort towards trying to overcome the old paradigm. Simply create the new future, the new reality that will make that obsolete. And so that's what you're doing on your property. When I visit your property, I see a man making obsolete your former way of life. You had huge garage full of toys and fun stuff and you know, you were a successful human being. You had materialized many cool things and then it all burned to the freaking ground. Nature came through and said, yeah, you don't need all that. And to your credit, instead of taking that insurance payment and saying, all right, I'm going to rebuild, you paused and you put up a tent. And you lived in that tent for a couple years, largely isolated from the reality of humanity. And you began a new story in your own life, which is now evolved into new stories for humanity as we take look at your books and the body of work you've created in the media space and everything else with your look at the new technologies, everything else is your debuting. But what it took was that pause and it took a wildfire to tear you down to your roots to get you on your new trajectory. And it was probably a trajectory you knew you needed to make the thing. And so that wildfire tore through my life in 2010. And for the last 13 years, I've been asked to pause many times. you know, in many different parts of my life, professionally, scientifically, energetically, emotionally, spiritually, relationally. You can check every single box and I didn't have to pause once. I had to hit the wall multiple, multiple times in every single one of those sectors and so what I'm carrying forward with me now is a human that has been burned down so many times that I don't have a memory of the trauma the last 40 generations that I was carrying with me before those wildfires. And that's the transmutation power of fire ultimately. The heat of life is you are going to manifest whatever heat temperature you need to transmute the pain and suffering of the last 40 generations which was dictating your behavior up until that moment. And so when we talk about the Flexner report and all these things, we have to realize that we're really talking about as a creep of human behavior that's been separating ourselves from nature for thousands of years. And the daunting realization of epigenetics and our understanding now of how genes get passed down through generations is that the trauma that my great grandmother had in the 1950s as she was having children or my great grandmother, she would have been she had her kids in the 1930s, my grandmother in the 1950s and 60s. Those two women were under the onslaught of the new chemical warfare in both their food and in the literal chemical warfare going on. And so those two women were starting to integrate genetic injury from environmental causes that had never existed before. And my great grandmother started to pass those on to my grandmother such that she was not only carrying the trauma of her lifetime, she was carrying the trauma of my great grandmother and frankly her grandmother. So my great-great-grandmother's now expressing injury in my grandmother, her children, then expressing those generations in themselves. Those four generations are significant because we now know that the mustard gas of World War I poisoning the water systems air systems in 1917 beginning that genetic tumult or chaos. That epigenetic injury was remembered at the level of the ovum or the egg and the sperm of my great-great-grandmother. So World War I gets recorded in the next generation in the epigenetic pattern, which means the genes haven't changed yet, but the way in which the genes express themselves has changed. And so my great-grandmother starts to express a new body in memory of or in reverence to the trauma of her mother. That gets passed on to my grandmother and now she's carrying the trauma of World War I and World War II and all of the chemical milieu and everything from those two mechanized wars. Third generation, my parents, coming out now recording that again epigenetically, but something amazing happened in my generation, which we now know as the scientific truth for all generations, is that in that fourth generation we take all of that epigenetic memory from our great-great-grandmother and put it into our sperm and ovum and that's called a germline mutation. So we go from an epigenetic memory of trauma to a genetic expression of trauma and that happens in the fourth generation and that's where the deepest disease starts to express itself in a trauma of mustard gas from 1917. Mustard gas was again banned after World War I. So I haven't seen mustard gas nor has anybody in over a hundred years, but we are now expressing mustard gas trauma in our sperm and ovum because in that fourth generation of memory we put it into the into the germline, into the so now you start to accumulate and you start to realize how was it that by 1996 we had an explosion of diabetes, cancer, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, attention to deficit, autism, allergies, immune dysfunction. How did that all happen in just a single decade? It's because we were preparing the cumulative traumatic memory of humanity over that previous 100 years. So the Flexner report was only a small piece of a traumatic thing that would express itself 100 years later because we went through the four generations. Each generation is 25 years. So you will only know the trauma of a hundred years ago and it's full expression in a hundred years. And so when you look at current FDA EPA USDA practices, which is now three three chemical and five chemical GMO seeds, which means we have seeds of corn, soybean, etc that are allowed to be sprayed and can biologically be sprayed with five herbicides at once, which include 2, 4, D, which is Asian orange. Atrazine that you've mentioned, which was the cancer causing one that we tried to replace with Roundup in the 1970s, which was glyphosate. So you've got atrazine, 2, 4, D, glyphosate, nicotinamides and dicamball on the single seed. And so you've got that as our current practice. And you say, what's the biological consequence of a five chemical GMO seed? I'll tell you in a hundred years. And what we're seeing now is we look back to the 1960s when we started to debut small molecule farming, which was the 1950s and 60s. We called it the green revolution. So the green revolution was changing chemical warfare into food practices. And so in the 1950s and 60s, we set into motion today's disease phenomenon. And so what is the full consequence of atrazine and some of these other molecules that were popularized in the 1950s and 60s? I'll tell you what it is. It's children by age two expressing leukemia, lymphomas, sarcomas. These are cancers that 80 year olds used to get. Two year olds are now filling our hospitals in the United States with these cancers that were unseen before why? Because in the 1950s or a hundred years ago, we began the journey into a genetic milieu, a genetic injury, a genetic traumatic experience or expression that is at this level. What's the consequence of the 1950s and the revolution of plastics? We now know, like you said, microplastics everywhere and the hearts of fetuses, it's everywhere. So what does microplastics do? It disrupts the endocrine system. So what's the consequence? A hundred years later, if a disrupted endocrine system? Well, it actually starts to change the nuclei within our deep brain, int and fetal development such that we don't know what gender looks like. Why do we have this whole gender revolution going on right now? Because the children of today are expressing themselves correctly. They're saying, I'm neither male nor female. So stop calling me male. And conservatives all over the world are saying, oh my god, this is the demise of humans like this, the demise of a social structure, maybe they're right or maybe they're wrong, it doesn't, it's irrelevant. Those kids are expressing the truth, which is you put into the genetics in the 1950s, microplastics that disrupted the endocrine system such that we don't know testosterone in estrogen and then the downstream effects of those on our macro phenotypes on our expression of male female. We started that journey a hundred years ago and it's not the children of today that are at fault. The children of today are the symptom of something we did deep in the genetic code of humanity as we interest microplastics as an endocrine disruptor. And then we added the whole chemical mute milieu on top of that. So it's probably all of the above. But gender today and its confusion and its perhaps clarity of where neither male or nor female is the result of chronic stress to the genetic level. And interestingly, I think that it's hard to prove 2000 years later. But when you look through the deep history, you start to realize, I think this actually happened multiple times in history where we started to lose gender at the point where empires started to fail. And so yes, we can blame microplastics, naturophean and all these chemicals of today. But the Roman empire, the Greek empire, the Persian empire before that, these empires also started to see this expression of homosexuality or gender neutrality or all of this towards the ends of their periods. And it's expressed in their art, it's expressed in our histories and all of this and our philosophies of the times. And so what I think we are seeing today is ultimately the divorce of nature in the human experience. And none of it's to be judged really. It's just to be recognized. We can call it bad if we want. We can call it evil if we want. We can do all that. But those are just human constructs, human judgment systems on natural nature itself. Nature is going to go to a non-gender state when a species needs to disappear. And so when we say that humans are going extinct in the next hundred years, part of that journey is a drop in testosterone, drop in sperm counts, a drop in infertility in women. And that's where we're at right now. One in three males in Western countries are infertile by sperm count, one in three infertile. One in three women has some sort of reproductive complication of metabolic collapse. Policist to go varian syndrome being the most common in the United States. That's one in four women just with one medical condition undermining their capacity for fertility. As in Indigo recently and stunned because I've been thinking of this and lecturing on this for 15 years around the Western issue of infertility and the collapse of our species and all this. And I'm in Mumbai traffic, which is the most incredible phenomenon humans have created. And so I'm in this most ridiculous traffic jam in the universe. And every other took took every other little motorized vehicle out there has plaster on the back of it, a 1-800 number for in vitro fertilization. And here I am in the largest country in the world now, 1.5, 1.6 billion people, whatever it is in Indigo now. So they just outpaced China as the most popularest country in the world. And yet they're having a fertility crisis in which that 1-800 number is more common than any other 1-800 number in traffic in Mumbai is how to get in vitro fertilization. And so when I say this is currently a Western problem, I don't believe it is a Western problem in anything more. I think we're just a few years away from realizing we have a human species phenomenon of disappearance due to infertility due to the collective trauma of the last hundred years. accumulated through four generations that have been exposed to toxins we never should have seen. And so like every other empire humanity's going to die now. And interestingly the empires of today are no longer limited to fiat countries, you know, or nation-state boundaries. The empire of today is a consumer world. The empire today is dictated by private equity and investment firms more than militaries. And so you have, you know, the black rocks and vanguards and everybody else in the day, they're controlling one eight out of every eight dollars in the planet. That's bigger than any country. And so we have unelected, non-nation state groups of small. You're talking about a couple dozen people that are wielding the entire economic system that relies on the very products that we've been talking about. Microchemicals from the oil and gas, microchemicals from food systems and extractions and all this. And so no wonder that's so hard to turn. So how are we going to get out of this situation? And the simple simple answer is we just change our value system. And suddenly all those people holding all of the money, which is all artificial, it's it's all abstract. Fortunately, and we should be celebrating the hell out of that. Like thank God we're not on the gold standard anymore. Also might be hard to change. But because it's all abstract economy and it's all bunch of zeros and ones and bank accounts all over the world and there's absolutely nothing real behind any of those numbers. We didn't change that in a split second, split second. And that's I think the next two to three years on this planet. His humans are going to change their value system and you and I get to be a part of that in this conversation. And everybody listening right now, you're a part of this. You're part of a sudden realignment of values in which nature becomes our gold, which nature becomes our only value system of exchange. And to do that, we're going to have to recognize that this whole ownership model is really at the root of the original injury. We didn't think nature had enough for us. When we thought we got kicked out of nature from our religious stories or from our own personal experiences, when we believed ourselves be kicked out of nature, we developed a police of scarcity, which then birthed the desire for ownership. And my predecessors, my ancestors, when you go back 400 years, gets pretty interesting. The Bush family arrives on the coast of the United States in 1617 in Jamestown, the first settlement 10 years after the first ship's land. And so this this nascent settlement, so my family arrives in 1617 as refugees basically from Europe. You know, it's not as conquest. They're basically trying to escape complete collapse of an empire that's failing them at this point. And in a failing empire, you have civil liberties being taken away from you. And you have more and more taxation, you have more and more extraction and destruction of the individual. And they're like, I'd rather go die in some wilderness unseen than try to continue to be have my blood extracted by this this empire of the British or the French or the Dutch or blah, blah, blah. And so the European empires were all collapsing. And therefore squeezing and choking out life within their citizens and citizen started jacking. And they're like, show me the path out of here. And I don't care if I die of malaria in the woods somewhere else I'm going. So my family gets there with the thousands of others. And the first thing we start to do is to repeat the the colonial mind, which is which is to say a mind of fear. We had learned for thousands of generations. And therefore it was in our genetic code that we needed to fear scarcity, fear starvation, fear somebody else taking our land, fear taxation, fear blah, blah, blah. And so we came and immediately repeated a fear paradigm. What does a fear paradigm look expressed? It looks like fences. And so we started putting up fences. And you imagine how tiny of a space this is. Like we got a few families landing in on the coast of North America, one of the largest land masses in the on the planet with more abundant resources that we could have possibly imagined at that time had no idea the riches that nature was willing to give us. And yet we immediately start putting up a fence. And you imagine you put up a little, you know, 50 foot by 50 foot fence and say, this is mine. You just ruled out 99.99% of what nature was going to give you. And you've got indigenous nations here that had been living here for 40,000 years previously, 620 nations living here on this continent in abundance and fighting over it and bickering over it. It was anything but a rosy picture, but they were in balance with it. And that had allowed them to persist for 40,000 years while Europe died and collapsed and rebirthed every couple thousand years, even really a couple hundred years. So the security and the balance and harmony that the indigenous nations of North America had reached under natural law and the understanding of nature within themselves had manifested a whole continent without a fence on it. And so you can now imagine how ludicrous to those nations it looked like when these weird colonialists were coming in putting up fences like, what are they even doing? Like, it must have been such utter confusion of like, are they trying to keep us out? Or are they locking themselves in? Did they just build their own prison? Is that what they're living in there? You know, like it must have just been so confusing. And you look at some of those writings of the yearly indigenous people and the leaders there that were trying to talk to, you know, are a couple hundred years later now, you're looking at the US and its manifestation of colonialism and empire building. The more we tried to destroy the indigenous nations and here, the more they kept saying, you guys are just going to destroy all of us. Like, this isn't something that's your view of this is self-destructive. And so the chiefs that we're speaking out and those that were acting in a natural law predicted our own demise in 1600s. And so I'm interested to see that humans have not always been under this influence of technology believing that we were going to have a technological solution to scarcity. We really did understand an abundance model at some point. And if you go down to Ecuador or something like that right now and spend time with some of these indigenous peoples that have only recently touched this kind of infected mind of scarcity, you can be blessed in the one sense of sitting with an elder who's 78 years old and listened to that wisdom coming out of that individual saying, the forest is ours, ours is the forest. This is a symbiotic relationship between humans and nature and we are nature. And this is all speaking through us and there's no separation. You can hear all that. And sitting behind that 78 year old is a 35 year old son scrolling Facebook on a smartphone in the jungle. Indigenous wisdom dies in a single generation and the epigenetic trauma that will be now manifest when that child understands scarcity and fear is now going to erase the memory. And so I think we have about 50 years left to rekindle the remembrance in peoples that already have ecosystems and economies that are aligned. The Amazon jungle is an aligned ecosystem and economy that has co-existed for 40,000 plus years. It is a man-made forest. It was a food forest that was designed by the tribes over the years and living in that space and they planted species that would support and make easy and secure their great grandchildren. So they developed an ecosystem they supported the development of an ecosystem that would support ultimately the economy and wellness of generations to come. That's the Amazon rainforest. And so when we talk about the loss of the Amazon, I think it's the biologic species of trees and tree frogs and ferns and everything else. That's the only part of what we're losing with every year that we burn down more of that thing. We're really losing a biologic template of what humans look like in relationship to a nature-based value system. And so this is our opportunity in the next two to three years to now mimic that at a grand level. Oh my gosh, I want an economy in which the only measurements that are relevant to me are how much soil, water and clean air are my great grandchildren in the half. And every decision I need to make in the way in which I spend, invest, etc. needs to have those as their primary metric. Even the developers of this whole 1% for the planet movement that happened in corporate environments in the last two decades are realizing that was 99% short. Every corporation on earth needs to put at its top line soil, water and air. And then the products they develop need to support the future of those three ecosystems are those three ingredients for life. And we can do that in a heartbeat like it's not even difficult. That's that's an operating agreement change. Lawyers can do that across the world right now. Soil, water, and air, top line, fourth line profit. And so you don't get a profit line until you've told me how you're impact the top three. And you do that by changing your supply chain. You're going to do that by creating supply chains. You're going to innovate everything back to the soil and water and air that your products are currently extracting from the planet. And so it's that immediate switch of value system shift that is going to diffuse all of the things that look like are unstoppable are too big to fail, etc. They will fail instantaneously when you and I decide that soil, water and air are the top lines of every corporation on the planet. When also with that model you're going back to nature as abundant like we're saying. The one seed produces other and that's a that also it goes immediately against that current model because of the need to show the other white white hair board members the next quarter profit. Whereas they don't get it. So like if you think Coca-Cola right Coca-Cola plastic it's It's the number one you know plastic water bottle destroyer in the world and I I ran into this when I was 20 years running around the globe. I'd be literally planes, trains, bumpy roads, in places where they didn't even see white people, right? And I see a Coca-Cola sign. Like, how the hell is that possible, right? So I love how you said that. The injury that that has been having on people and the no accountability of those companies doing that injury and marketing to these people. And so it's like, does that mean things like, if we put that as a top line, that means that you're now responsible for that water bottle that you're creating and for that gnarly liquid that you're putting in there and how you're doing that and where that's coming from and what's the output, where's that output going? Because it's gonna affect the water, it's gonna affect the air, it's gonna affect the village downstream. It's like all of that stuff. What is it gonna take for those big boys? Because we've now empowered all of these, the black rocks and the Coca-Cola's and they have injured for a long time and they have profited on the backs of those injuries. What can we do? I mean, you answered it already. And that's where I get the hope. The hope is we need to continue to educate and move forward and to move towards that solution because to your point, that injury happened a long time ago and we're seeing the consequences right now. And it's easy to go, yeah, it still doesn't make sense. The polluting nature of that satellite view of this shock to hell out of me when China is creating most of the blue jeans on the planet that from a satellite you're seeing the blue in the rivers, like the toxic, that's not something you wanna see from a satellite. So we are creating so much injury on this planet that it's so alarming, but the sprinting towards solutions. And I don't know what, you look at the FDA, you look at the EPA, you look at the FCC, you look at the USDA, you look at the NIH, all of these supposed regulatory bodies have failed so miserably. And there's some of the research you were reading and the FDA's talking about the very thing and then no regulation is implemented. So we don't have a regulation body, we don't. - Well, we do, we have lots of regulatory bodies, the issues are ineffective. And in fact, they're rubber stamping with the appearance of approval or the appearance of safety. They're rubber stamping, the chemicals they know is harmful. My team is testified in front of the EPA multiple years in a row. And I can tell you that when you're sitting witnessing that moment, you're looking at intelligent human beings that are so emotionally collapsed, they can't even look you in the eye while you're giving them the data, 'cause they know it, they know it's the wrong thing, and they know they're gonna rubber stamp that thing again. Because they have been put in an impossible situation to say, hey, police, this thing, that is a small symptom of an entire humanity with a value system that's out of line with nature. You can't police that, it's a value issue, not a regulatory issue. And so when I say that until soil, water, and air is the top line of everything, there is no other solution. Because you cannot police, you cannot symptom relieve with an EPA or a US medical system, the $4 trillion a year. It's a drop in the bucket because you're really talking about palliating a human condition that's $60 trillion a year in human behavior with drugs. And so neither the drugs, nor the EPA, or anybody else can solve the problem until we solve for that initial values and proposition. As soon as we align values, then everything falls in place and doesn't need any policing because it's as simple as asking the Coca-Cola of, like, all right, show me your top three lines, how much new soil you're producing in the world, how much new clean water you're distributing in the world, and how much cleaner of you generated. And if Coca-Cola is expected to show us those top three lines, and then we get to choose, are we gonna invest in Coca-Cola products, are we gonna purchase Coca-Cola products or not? Then it's super easy. 'Cause like you said, nobody wants a T-shirt with 6,000 chemicals on it. And as soon as we can say at the top of that, 'cause you can't police 6,000 chemicals, you can't. It's not regulatory possible, it's not consumer, it's impossible. But if those top three lines are exposed to those 6,000 chemicals, those top three collapse. 6,000 chemicals are gonna be terrible for the soil water and air. And that's gonna be measurable if we ask for the metric. So a value system then guides the metrics that we then create around it. And right now we have a bunch of reduction of symmetric systems that have absolutely nothing to do with soil water and air, and therefore we have a planet at dying while economies grow. Soil water and air dying while economies grow is a misalignment of values. And then we can bicker over all the other problems, but really it's that simple thing is humans stopped aligning their value system with our planet. And so our solution right now is every billionaire in the world seems to be building some sort of space station to try to get off this rock. And so from, you know, it doesn't matter if it's virgin galactic to Elon Musk to the rest, like they're all trying to show us something beyond Earth. Because they sense in the energy that they've created with their billions of dollars, the collapse of all things. Elon Musk, I think it's around $160 billion of worth he's thought to have or some crazy abstract number there. And of course it's all abstract wealth. There's no real wealth under Elon Musk, but it's all the abstract economy that we've attributed to his innovations. Brilliant mind, no question brilliant human expression right there, but he's been handed an abstract economy and an abstract set of problems to solve. And for that, we see these abstract solutions being put in place like, well, we're going to get to Mars, we're going to colonize, we're going to do this for that. To create the wealth that Elon Musk currently has, I would have to give you $100,000 a day for 5,000 years for that one individual. And so you know that he knows that number. And he's like, okay, if I'm worth $160 billion, that means there's so much human energy going the wrong direction. This planet is corrupt. I can't turn that thing around with only in my inventions. He knows, damn well, that electric cars don't solve for any of those problems. He knows that there is absolutely no way that solar is going to save humanity. He knows it doesn't save the planet. So he's putting his eggs in one big basket, which is called Mars, you know. And he doesn't have hope for humanity. He's telling Congress right now. He's like, AI is going to take down humanity. So I'm out of here. Like you guys are not controlling this ultimate enemy here. It's another symptom, right? If you look at that, if you look at the billionaires, maybe they're conscious of it, maybe they're not. But they are also then that same to your point. They're also that other symptom of expression going, this rock ain't doing well, I'm out, right? If this rock was willing to create my wealth in a single lifetime, if I was able to accumulate $100,000 a day times 5,000 years, then there's something fundamentally wrong with this humanity. And this humanity is going to destroy this planet in the matter of decades. Because that is too much wealth accumulation, the only way that's possible is to have such an abstract economy that has absolutely nothing to do with nature. And so when economies get that far out of league, then the only option is get the hell out of his rock as fast as possible, because this planet is dead. And any life that we still think it has is a fiction, just because we have already a deep-stated denial. So that's their reality. I still back up and say humanity is going to kick this ball out of the park. We are going to win this game on some level. And I don't even know if that's in the body biologically. But the thing that gives me so much hope in the end, which isn't even the right word, hope, suggests doubt. Ultimately, hope is an expression of fear. Hope is an expression of doubt. - Hope it changes. - I hope it changes. The reason I put so much confidence in the winning of this game is because of my journey in hospice. Here is an utterly failed life. Here's an individual who's got metastatic cancer through their brain, through every organ system, their bloodstreams collapse, their immune systems collapse. We've now toxified them with every chemotherapy on the planet and then kicked it off. We also gave them 42 rounds of radiation. And like we have taken biology down to its most base failure. There's not a single gene expressing itself correctly in that human being at that moment. And yet I saw the most beautiful humanity come out of that broken vessel. Because shining through the biology was an energy field. Shining through that biology that was in utter collapse, there were so many cracks in that facade of biology that I got to see the real thing behind it, which is a beautiful soul. That carried wisdom that is beyond its life. We might carry 40 generations of trauma within our genome. We carry back to eons, the wisdom of nature itself. I got to see at the last breaths of human beings the deepest truths and wisdoms get spoken that suddenly healed 40 generations backwards. I saw children estranged from their parents for 40 years in a single sentence, healed that, which was symptomatic of the deeper healing of the 40 generations back that had led to that separation of parent and child because something's shown through. That was so bright, so true, so valid, so authentic that it shifted the trauma instantly. If that can happen on the death bed of biology itself in a single human being, are not we going to see some greater version of that when biology fails for a species? We see one species going extinct every 20 years. 20 minutes now, 10,000 fold increase in the extinction rates of species on this planet over the last 40 years. One species going extinct every 20 minutes is new truth, new authenticity, new vibrations of the next iteration of life on the planet is shining through that collapsing biology. And so I know we are going to contribute something magnificent when 8 billion or 9 billion or 9.5 billion. Many souls are on the planet when we finally go into our ultimate collapse. How many souls are going to come shining through at that moment and how bright will we shine at that moment? It's an equation that just makes everything else we just talked about. So infinitesimally small, so irrelevant to the actual equation. The only equation that really suffices to say why is humans here and what can we contribute is 8 billion souls are here right now. What the heck is a soul? It's an energy field that is coherent enough to design a fetus in the womb of a mother. One cell self-organizes into a 70 trillion cell organism that we would call a baby. It is a mathematical, physical, physics, biologic impossibility on every single fractal level impossible and it happens again and again and again because the energy fields are so coherent that despite the toxicity that we describe on the planet today, fetuses are still being born and beings are coming into this planet with autism with all the rest and all those symptoms on purpose, on fire, blazing through the biologic chaos to say I am here to show humanity a new path forward. Every autistic child is showing up as an angel among us shining so bright with a joy that's inexplicable. If you've ever met a Down syndrome kiddo or adult, you know that through the dis-ease of biology, we see something more beautiful. We see something more true to the original design, the original math of what we could become. That's shining through right now. So when we re-coordinate our value system to soil, water, and air, and we acknowledge that we are part of nature and it's speaking through us, the template has never been so bright and never been vibrating at such a level because there's a billion of us. We are reinforcing the best of humanity as biology fails because the best of humanity I don't believe is defined by our genetics. The best of humanity is in our spirit. And ultimately our capacity to see beauty. When you see beauty, you vibrate in a very specific frequency that we call in the English language love, which is very lame and inadequate word or vibration vocally. But energetically behind the word love is the sentence I see beauty. I see beauty is why I am here. That's what the human condition allows us. Why would I be coming human at all? If I'm an infinite energy field that I might call a soul, if I'm that energy field, why would I pick this moment in human history to show up in all of this chaos and demise and disease and microplastics and chemical milieu? Why would I bother? Because it's freaking beautiful to be human. And what is most beautiful about being human is we can feel the pain of separation because in the separation we get to see the beauty. And this is what happened on your property. You saw the beauty of your land differently when all of the human constructs were burned down. And suddenly it was black earth, black and trees that started to bud green. When I watched those live oaks come out on your land, I just cried. Black freaking trunks with green buds, death, seeming obvious, seeming impenetrable, bursting through that is something spectacular. And then the biodiversity that sprung forth on your land because of the fire, undistracted by the old driveway and the magnificent house and the big garage and all the toys and the garage and all that undistracted. Now I see the beauty better. So as we burn human construct down, we are going to see the best of opportunity for humanity come back, roaring back in our capacity to see beauty and align our value system with that beauty, soil, water, air and everything it would manifest in this planet. We're that close to a complete revolution. And so when we see the disaster of Maui and we feel the heartbreak of hundreds of souls burned out here and we feel the dust of the ashes of our loved ones settling on our skin when we walk around Maui today, that heartbreak, that pain of loss, that desolation behind the fire is the new canvas that humanity will paint itself on. And so if we want to really do right by those that have burned before us, will we let the beauty shine through them of what persists after them, which is our memory of our love for them because we could see beauty in them. We saw beauty in our gram, whether we saw beauty in our aunt and uncle, we saw beauty in that child before they found their demise with their cancer or their wildfire, whatever ended that biologic expression. And shining through that is the remembrance of beauty. So if we will do well by our ancestors or those that have preceded us across the biologic threshold before us, we will remember the beauty and feel the love and vibrate in that space such that the next genetic expression forgets the trauma and only does the sunshine. It's a great song from who is it that does that? It's further on down the road, Taj Mahal. Taj Mahal, he's got that great song. It says, "Further on down the road, you will accompany me." And the verse goes something like, "When I look back, your love is like the sunshine. I don't remember the cold days. I only remember the warm ones." And so that's the human condition as we speak right now, as we sit right now, as we are going to see the demise of all things that we created before because we built those in a value system that was misaligned with our nature, with our own biology. As we write that ship, we can trust the foundation is still solid that we can see beauty. Every single human on the planet knows it. You don't have to teach a child that that sunset is beautiful. You don't have to teach a child that the hand of their grandmother on their face is they fall asleep at night is beautiful. They know that. They know that face. They know the tenor of the voice of their mother in the womb. That's beautiful. They don't need to be taught that because they are eternal beings in witness to beauty and knowing what that is. They vibrate in the frequency of love and we change the fabric of the universe with that frequency. And we will change the fabric of our humanity when we allow that to shine through and stop the fear, guilt and shame that came from the scarcity of belief that we were rejected by nature. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'd like to take a quick break from this episode to thank our other sponsor of today's episode, Mono Vitality. Mono is 100% organic vegan but it's this perfect formula of getting your body, the micro nutrients in the highest quality minerals, amino acids, full of it, humic minerals, nutrients that have been gathered from literally the highest points in the Himalayas and the lowest points on this planet in the Dead Sea. We have dedicated themselves to getting the nutrients that your body needs the most, certainly in our modern day fatal convenience of nutrient poor food. We need this stuff. 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We got to feel it all people. And it's not a fairy tale, it is not going to be pretty and we are going to see more death than we can possibly imagine, which is to say we're going to see more opportunity for your birth than has ever happened on this planet and this planet will come forth in more beauty and more complexity and more intelligence than it's ever expressed before because that's what happens after every extinction. It comes roaring back so beautifully because a planet under the stress of extinction expresses new viruses. And the new viruses are the new genetic potential of a planet and a planet that leaps forward after the last extinction goes from dinosaurs to birds, mammals, humans, goes from ferns and palms to deciduous trees, wildflowers. And that existed before the stress of the last extinction. And so with the stress that we now represent in our existential separation from nature is the new possibility of life and intelligence on this planet and we get to stay in play if we choose. In some shape or fashion we will stay to play. And it may be many fewer bodies on the planet than are here today. with the screen. souls will shine through every one of them on purpose. And if I don't get to stay to see that new earth birth, I hope a comeback as a freaking lion or a tree or something of nature that just is relieved of the human fear and guilt. I want to feel what it feels like to be alive without fear guilt and shame. And if I have to be something else, I'll be something else to do that. But I am so excited to feel what it feels like to be free of those three things as they shape my heartbreak every day. Today was a potent day for me. And the people that I love the most, I find the most difficult of communication because it exposes the deepest versions of fear guilt and shame with that. And so we hurt each other the more we try to love one another right now because we carry that 40 generations of trauma, the deep, seated fear guilt and shame within us maybe 4,000 generations before us. We carry that within us and expose when we most try to love each other. And so we need to stop trying to love each other. We need to start seeing the beauty in one another and realize that's how we vibrate in a pure state of love rather than the abstract versions of love that got popularized in the five love languages of the planet. Love is not duty or acts of service or all these other words that we've put around the five love languages. Those are human efforts to express it to make ourselves feel reassure we deserve it. None of those are love. Love is the capacity of seabedity and you will automatically vibrate in it and it's infinite. And so if we're going to start talking about a value system of soil, water and air, we're going to have to realize that that takes us down to the nitty gritty of human relationship with one another. This isn't a relationship with corporations we need to worry about. This is me and one other person. This is me and a child. This is me and a grandmother. It's going to come down to that finite expression of what does love look like unperturbed by the fear of guilt and shame that I'm not enough and I don't know how to love you and I don't know how to be a brother to you. I don't know how to reassure you that we're going to be okay because I'm not even sure we're going to be okay. So all of those insecurities that come out of being alive right now can be freed up. And for me, the only way to actually get there in my individual down to that finite level of how do I make soil, water, and air, my value system forget the corporations, me. How do I wake up in the morning and be part of that value system? Only way I have started to uncover that capacity within myself is allow myself to be seen by nature 'cause I can go out there and witness the beauty of the sunshine every day and it doesn't seem to fix humanity but if I lay under an oak and make myself available to that intelligence whichever in that oak tree. If I make myself available to the intelligence of a cosmos and say stars, Milky Way, look at me tonight. I'm going to lay bare. I'm going to get naked on this porch. I'm going to lay here under you so you can see the original math. Look at me so that I can be seen. The observer effect in physics is very cool. As soon as you observe an electron that switches its spin, humanity needs a 180 right now, instantly or we go. The only way to get a 180 degree turn on every single heart, mind, and spirit and humanity right now is to be seen and we cannot see each other brother for all the ego, fear, and guilt and shame. We've got built in here. We cannot see another human being. So how are we going to be seen? We're going to have to make ourselves available to be seen by the cosmos, by nature itself so that every electron changes direction. And so you don't feel safe being seen by another human. I don't feel safe by seeing another human. That's why in our relationships, we have such struggles because the more somebody gets close to us, the more barriers we start to put up because we're afraid they're actually going to see the real us which is 40 generations of trauma at least. And so we don't want them to feel or see that because we can feel and see that deep inside of us and we don't want anybody to know that that's in there. So we cover that up, we shine it, we polish it, we make all kinds of song and dance around it, smoke and mirrors, whatever it takes because we don't feel safe with that person because that person is carrying the same junk within them. And so we frankly are not safe as one human to another because we cannot see each other and for not being able to see each other, we cannot transform the physics of being human. The physics of human will stay injured as long as we do not stay seen. And so lay under the cosmos tonight, bear yourself alone. Get away from your loved ones, your family. At some point in the next month, get away from everybody for a moment so that you feel safe enough to be seen by that tree, by whatever it is. You go find that sacred space in nature and you'd be willing to be seen by that cliff, that waterfall, that whatever speaks to you in nature, whatever kin you have in that nature. Let your ancestors see you in that nature. Let them see you. Let those that you are safe to be seen by see you so that every electron in your body changes direction right now. And we could become that humanity tomorrow. That's it. Everyone here that. That's what we're doing. Thank you, brother. You somehow brought in all of my ancestors and my dad and everyone's represented here today and it reminded me of my father and the impetus and the inspiration of that book was he suffered massive injury as a keeper of the dragon and the navy of the atomic bomb during the Cuban Missile Crisis, right? And dude, I don't know how far back the injury goes in terms of like, you know, my grandmother came on a covered wagon and she fed Native Americans. She told me that story before she died. My dad's brother was 21 years old and my dad was one. He was killed in World War II as a pilot. My dad grew up in the grieving of an impossible grieving during that time. And in order to get close to his father, he watched his father not having a clue how to grieve and just pick up alcohol. My dad's seeding of alcoholism started trying to get close to his own dad at the age of four. And that reared its ugly head from continued injury, right? Atomic bomb killed his thyroid. And it's like, it's so complex. And there's something in the way that you described the 40 generations and the injuries, something like, there's something in me that let go of something just by hearing that. Because we so myopically think it's us and our ego's like, oh, here I am. I'm the problem. I'm the problem. I fucked up again. I have more guilt. I have more shame. I have more fear. I see you there again. I heard someone else again. And we're running around with, well, maybe most of that shit that you're feeling was never yours to begin with. And so you're trying to make it yours by continuing the story of that's my shame, guilt, fear, and anger. When in fact, goddamn, I'm just-- I'm here. And I've been carrying this for a long time. Let go. Let go. Get back to nature and start doing the things that we ultimately know. Just like you said, when someone sees a rose and smells a rose, do you have to say that it was beautiful? Do you have to learn that it was beautiful? No. So go back to move forward, right? Go back to that nature and go back to bearing our soul and our bodies and our beings to that. I love that. I'm literally doing that. I have a 300-year-old oak tree right out side my door. You know which tree is going to see you? Damn, damn sure. That's my exercise tonight. I challenge everyone. Find your spot for sure. I'll just find it. And you write about the remembrance message there. And I think you just invited in your next podcast, you got to check out TJ Woodward. I met him a couple years ago and had him on my global health education summit, which you can see like the full panel of experts we had on when we were talking about addiction. I think it'll completely reframe your dad's journey for you in such a beautiful light. But TJ Woodward wrote the book, "Conscious Recovery." And in that, he reframes alcoholism, not as a weakness, or not as a flaw, or not as a failure, but as a genius coping mechanism. And you just described it really. Your father began to use alcohol so that he could overcome the fear guilt and shame so he could get closer to his father. It was a genius tool that he used throughout his life to try to palliate the brokenness of human value systems and the consequences of fear guilt and shame. And so thank God for alcohol in his life, because it probably helped position him to forgive and ways he couldn't have without the toxin. And there's a deeper sentiment in there in that, did we need the glyphosate, atrazine, microplastics and the rest? Did we need that level of addiction to ultimately convenience? Did we need that level of addiction to the microchemistry? Was this our genius coping mechanism to overcome 4,000 generations of fear guilt and shame, separation from nature? Did we need to dissolve biology so thoroughly so that we would stop expressing the damn trauma? Are we getting to a level of biologic dysfunction where we cannot pass on the genetic code that we've carried forward? That's the beautiful button we're on right now. We're either going to sneak by this extinction into the new humanity because we learn to pass on only those genes that are free of fear guilt and shame, or we dissolve so that the new Earth can express its new intelligence without us. We're right in that moment, and I'm so glad to be alive right now because I'm going to get to see the beauty of humanity in either direction. We are in a no-fail situation. And the tenor right now of the politicalization of the fear guilt and shame paradigm of we're killing the planet and kids have no hope of having it. having a planet and all this stuff going on, we need to get to this point if we're going to express the new humanity. So that's kind of where my excitement is is if alcohol is the genius mechanism of an individual trying to overcome its emotional trauma was all the other chemical addiction that we've expressed in the last hundred years necessary to bring us all to our knees such that we would express the new genomics. And so in the end, I think we have no judgment until we see the outcome. And we may find out that those enemies that we most hold, whether it be whatever in your mind, bear, exonmable, the Rockefeller's, like whatever word you can come up with, if like there's the bad guy, that may have been exactly the tool we all reached for. That may have been the very thing we empowered so that we would be brought to our knees biologically so that we could express the new thing. And so we may end up in a hundred years with epic love songs to those families that destroyed the old biology. Yeah. And so I think that that's an important opportunity for us is we need to right now take a pause so deep and suspend judgment on all things, especially ourselves, who we are most abusive towards in our judgment. I need to suspend judgment on myself long enough to express the new biology within me as seen by the oak tree. And so that's going to be the last piece of the puzzle. And that's been put out there by a lot of different sources that the last thing we will do in these human bodies is let go of judgment because we will have new human bodies what we do. And so we're getting very close to that transmutation event and all the pain becomes beauty. It's right here in my god are we fortunate to be part of that decade of humanity and of this biologic experiment on Earth. Well, thank you for that reframe because you know you stare at this stuff long enough, it does create some heaviness. And you know like we were saying right from the parking lot, right, you're going through some stuff and transformations and like and then we kind of chuckled because we both agree that this part of reality has a degree of pain and suffering as a impetus of change and a propeller of motion and movement and opportunity. And that's at this big scale, which is clearly so eloquently stated, let's not and I'm saying this to myself right now, Darren, let's not make this wrong. Let's of course share what's going on to bring it into the light going, yeah, it's not a good idea to pollute yourself with glyphosate and plastics and that lights and dioxins and you know all these things. And at the same time, I don't know if anyone wants to read that book, but we're here as a natural necessity of going, this is crazy and who knows how far this needs to go for humanity to go, okay, that's enough or it's not enough. Yeah, we need the journey. We're on no question right to what end to destroy the old version of ourselves and that's why we do every relationship in our lives is to destroy the old version of ourselves. We will alchemize the perfect next opportunity to destroy this current version of ourselves until we become the highest expression of ourselves. And so think through that in your love life and your family life in your corporate life. Every relationship you have have designed in your life journey was alchemized perfectly to destroy the old version of yourself. You have lived, died, rebirth so many times in this lifetime and when you start to embrace that opportunity instead of resist that, that's where the transformation really becomes salient. And I'm now in a position where I hope that I'm dying every day to the old version of myself and I am dismayed each day when I realize, oh, that's a memory I can recall having five years ago. The shorter the frequency that we can tolerate in transformation of death and rebirth, the more likely we get to stay in play. And so we need to let go of our resistance to change and start to accelerate change, not in our technology. I mean, if our cell phones can get twice as fast every two years, then why can't we become a new genomics every two years and really let go of that. So to do that, we're going to have to cut all of the roots of memory of trauma and start to express the remembrance of beauty. And that's all in you right now. And there's a fad going on socially and politically right now around this concept of indigenous peoples. And anytime I sit with indigenous peoples, I find out that they're just like me, they're human. The only difference between what we call indigenous people in myself is one remembers where it's from and I have forgotten. So there's indigenous culture ultimately and there's a lack of indigenous culture, but we are all indigenous to earth. This is our home right now. We are all indigenous to this planet. We need to stop othering indigenous peoples and colonialists. We're all in this together. We're all indigenous to a planet. Can we remember our culture of indigenity? Can we remember the culture of what we would express if we didn't think we were separate from nature? And that's all that it's going to take. We don't need to tear anything down. We need to remanifest the culture, i.e. the value systems and the beauty that we would create from those value systems when we realize ourselves to be part of nature. And so there is an indigenous entity within each of us that is ready to express the original culture, the original potential of human. And we will stop abusing earth and each other at the same levels until we are done with the journey. And perhaps better that we'll continue to abuse each other until we are done with that journey of reconciliation to our nature within and the beauty in it. And we will embrace the whole arc of life, death, without judgment and without fear, guilt, and shame, such that we become part of that generative cycle of nature where it always gets more biodiverse, always more intelligent with every iteration because it's always a gain of function in nature and this cosmos. Everything is going to get smarter, more brilliant, more beautiful with every iteration that nature does because she's expressing herself, she's expressing her full capacity for creativity. And I am part of that. And I get to participate in that. And so what I create can be part of that beauty of the future. And man, she's good at her job, nature, and she is very impressive. So I'm following her. Carry on, my friend. Carry on. 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