Your Lawn Is More Toxic Than You Think (+ Non-Toxic Lawn Alternatives) | Zen Honeycutt

If anybody's using glyphosate in America, American farmers are growing junk food. Glyphosate essentially gives a plant aides an autoimmune disease. The normally harmless bacteria in the soil kills the plant because it has an autoimmune disease. And the amount of glyphosate that it takes to do all this is drift level only. We use a lot of glyphosate, 20 million just in our parks and playgrounds, 280 million pounds a year, just in our food crops. Cancer is not a choice, infertility is not a choice, but farming practices are a choice. And so I would like the farmers to consider that more often and now and make a choice that keeps the future generations of our country at mind. Most Americans can tell you the ingredients in their protein powder. Far fewer can tell you what chemicals are being sprayed on the food they eat, the parks their kids play in, or the fields surrounding their communities. Yet those chemicals may have more impact on our health than almost anything else that we argue about online. Today's conversation takes us deep into pesticides, glyphosate, periquot, atrazine, fluoride, big ag lobbying, and the growing movement of moms who are demanding answers about what's happening to America's food supply and public health. Joining me for a second time is my friend Zen Honeycutt, founder and executive director of Mom's Cross America, author of Unstoppable, Transforming Sickness and Struggle into Triumph, Empowerment in a Celebration of Community, and one of the most influential grassroots voices in the Maha movement. After watching her own family struggle with serious health challenges, Zen turned personal crisis into a national mission. Her organization, Mom's Cross America, initiated the very first glyphosate testing in America, successfully petitioned Costco to remove roundup from its shelves, helped drive awareness about pesticides and toxic exposures and empowered thousands of parents to become advocates for healthier communities. As always, Zen brings the heat. Watch on the Real Alex Clark YouTube channel in Culture Pathocary on Spotify. Please leave a five star review on Apple or Spotify before we get started. This helps us become more discoverable and look great to perspective guests you love for me to have. Please welcome back, Zen Honeycutt to Culture Pathocary. You've been doing this activism work for how many years? Almost 14 years now. You are so OG. I mean, before Maha was even a blip on the radar, Zen was doing this. So my question for you is to start is like just looking over the landscape here and just culture. Of the last 14 years of you just, you know, banging on the walls about glyphosate. Do you feel like we're closer than we've ever been to basically glyphosate becoming a household name and people have at least heard about it and kind of know it's not good? Yes. And you know what the amazing thing is about that is that I think Trump did for glyphosate with the COVID vaccine mandates did for vaccines. Meaning, before the COVID vaccine mandates, the only people screaming about vaccines and the risks and all of that were the parents who whose children were harmed. And so it was a small subgroup. And then the COVID vaccine mandate thing happened. And all of a sudden firefighters, policemen, pilots, teachers, you know, all kinds of people were like, wait a second, should we really be being mandated to have these vaccines for our jobs, right? So there was a huge amount of awareness. There was like a groundswell of awareness about vaccines, whether you like them or not, right? There was more awareness. So when Trump did the glyphosate executive order, which I was extremely upset about, the flip side of that was all of a sudden, all these people knew about glyphosate. They're like, wait a second, our president is making a pesticide, a national security asset. What is this? Why is it happening? What is glyphosate, right? So all of a sudden, so many people were aware of glyphosate. In fact, when he tweeted two days later that he was going to let the world know about UFOs and aliens and all that kind of stuff, I texted, you know, aliens versus glyphosate. Well, glyphosate is still winning out on my feet, right? Like people were posting about it everywhere. So now I feel like people know about glyphosate, at least they're more curious about it. They're more interested. They're finding out. And I think that the alternatives for glyphosate are really starting to get in the spotlight, you know, nontoxic weed killers, regenerative organic agriculture, permaculture, other ways of farming that and gardening, right? Where you don't have to use a toxic weed killer. That's all coming to light and we're making a huge amount of progress. Explain what the heck that executive order meant. So, so you know, they're saying it's a national security issue. We need to manufacture it in the United States, instead of outside the United States. And then we need to protect it because what I guess the reasoning is, you know, so much of our food supply will disappear overnight if farmers don't have glyphosate to use or something. I guess I just have many questions about this then, like, why was that necessary to do? In your opinion, was there some kind of other motive behind creating an executive order? What are your thoughts? Well, I was horrified when it happened, right? Because it was the exact opposite of what we want to have happened. We want it banned. And there's plenty of science to show that it should be banned. The DDT PCBs showed up in breast milk, and it was banned five years later, right? And there's plenty of toxicity to show about those two that are equivalent to what glyphosate does. If you look at the independent science, a recent science from Ramazini study that shows that it causes 10 types of cancer. One of them is leukemia. And it causes liver disease and kidney disease at very low levels. I'm talking four parts per billion per kilogram of body weight, like it's nanograms. It's a very tiny amount. And we have one out of four adults and children now in America with some form of non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. It's been directly linked to glyphosate with peer-reviewed scientific studies. So there's tons of science. I could go on and on nervous system, neurological system, endocrine disrupting, causing sperm damage, causing the endrogenization of baby girls when the mothers are exposed to glyphosate in the utero. So there's so many things about glyphosate that endocrine disrupting and endangered species effects as well. Like there's so many things about it. So it's scientifically, and I'm not the only one saying this. There are scientists around the world that say it should be banned. In fact, 60 other countries have either restricted or banned glyphosate. So most restrictions, but we haven't done any of that. It really does need to be banned. However, I understand in this climate when you have 80% of GMOs are engineered to withstand glyphosate. And you understand that 85 to 100% of our commodity crops are GMO. The likelihood of it being banned is very, very tiny. I understand that. I'm naive about that. But scientifically, it should be banned. It's not safe for consumption. It's not safe in our water. It's not safe in our soils. So we need to support a transition away from glyphosate use. And that means that our agriculture system needs to be transformed. It's a huge task. It's not going to happen overnight. I totally understand that. And it's not just a change. A change is if you take a bicycle and you take off the regular seat and you put on a banana seat. What I'm talking about is transformation. That's taking a bicycle and making it into a rocket ship. That's the kind of transformation that we need in the farming system. And by the way, that sounds crazy, but also it kind of doesn't. Because now with AI technology and all these things, we're seeing companies create weed killer zappers with lasers and stuff like that. You don't even have to use pesticides. Yes. So I mean, I think the future of farming could look very interesting and very different. Yes. It's possible. And looking forward, there's amazing technologies. There's frequencies technologies. There's one called harvest harmonics, which has frequencies that boost the crop yield by 20 to 70 percent with plant frequencies. Totally non-toxic. No fertilizer needed. There's there's weed killers like fire hawk that is non-toxic weed killer. Even roundup has a in the UK, a vinegar version that bear makes in the UK. That's not toxic. They're not doing that here. They're doing in the UK. So there are alternatives. And if you think about the past, we have farmed for thousands of years without toxic chemicals. No GMOs, no toxic chemicals. Thousands of generations have already been successful in feeding their population. Look at the populations of China and India. How did they get that way? Yes. They've had a lot of famine. They've had a lot of troubles. They also are the most populous countries in the world because they had small farmers that were growing food organically for thousands of generations for over 5,000 years. So what the heck was this executive order really saying or what was the purpose? That we need to produce glyphosate in the United States because he didn't say this in the executive order, but Kennedy said it. 99 percent of the glyphosate that our farmers use comes from China. Trump doesn't like that. China is an adversarial country for the most part. And we don't trust their safety standards. glyphosate is not safe no matter what a chever country it comes from. But Trump doesn't want to be dependent on China for the herbicide that we use on 85 to 100 percent of our GMO crops in America at the tune of 280 million pounds a year. We use a lot of glyphosate, a lot. 20 million just in our parks and playgrounds and 280 million pounds a year just in our food crops. We have to be clear about the facts that when he says that farmers are going to go out of business and people are going to starve or the farmers are saying that if they don't have access to glyphosate, that's true. If they're farmers, farming with GMOs that are engineered to withstand glyphosate. If they choose that form of farming, they need the tools that come with it, right? glyphosate is, that they're engineered to withstand glyphosate. So they use glyphosate to kill all the weeds, the crop still grows. They can harvest it. They can spray glyphosate on it again as a drying agent and harvest it more quickly. If they choose that method of farming, they do kind of need to use the tools that come with it, right? But let's keep in mind that farming practices are a choice. There's many different ways to farm. You can farm organically, regenerative organically, biodynamically, you know, conventionally, and then also with GMOs and toxic chemicals. Cancer is not a choice. Infertility is not a choice, but farming practices are a choice. And so I would like the farmers to consider that more often and now and make a choice that keeps the future generations of our country at mind because we are in a reproductive crisis right now. We have, I mean, I know you know, Dr. Shauna Swan. She just did this movie, The Problem with Plastic. She also has done many studies on glyphosate. And she says if we don't get our act together regarding exposure to endocrine disrupting chemicals by 2045, our men are not going to be able to reproduce. That means only the elite will be able to reproduce because they will be using assisted reproductive therapy and that's only 18% effective. It costs 40,000 for one effort, one try and most people try three or four times. I mean, we're looking at a very bleak future fertility wise and reproductive wise for the future of America if we don't change things very quickly. President Obama did a lot of bedding over backwards for Monsanto bear. How is this administration in comparison to President Obama? President Obama was bad. Yeah, well, I mean, they're both bad, but at least Trump got Kennedy in right to make some changes regarding, you know, food dies and the nutritional guidelines and all of that. But Obama said he was going to label GMOs and he didn't do that. He did not do what he said he was going to do. People voted for him because he said he was going to label GMOs. He had two terms and he didn't do that. Trump said that he would address pesticides in our food. He said those exact words on the presidential platform in Arizona with Kennedy by his side. He said he was going to address childhood chronic illness, autism and obesity. He said the words pesticides in our food. I can give you the clip on this. Oh, I know. You know, okay. Yeah. And he shook Bobby Kennedy's hand and said he was going to let him go wild. So Democrats and independents that were looking for how am I going to vote in this election where I don't really like either candidate, right? When they saw Trump say that with next to Kenny, they were like, oh, that's who I'm going to vote for. I may not like Trump, but he has the wisdom to bring on Kennedy and they're talking about my health. I'm going to vote for him. So he won millions of votes by saying that and he has not done a single thing to reduce our children's exposure to pesticides. In fact, he's made it worse. If you were going to explain what glyphosate is and what it does to a fifth grader, how would you do it? It's the most widely used weed killer in the world that causes cancer, reproductive problems, nervous system problems, neurological problems. And it is the primary cause for the majority of our Western illnesses in America. How do you get glyphosate off your produce? Well, it's not usually directly on your produce because it would kill your produce. If they sprayed it on your tomatoes or your lettuce or your strawberries, it would die. So all of those images out there when people show spraying and they talk about glyphosate and they show a sprayer spraying tomatoes or strawberries, that's not real. That's actually not accurate. That's not what's happening. They spray glyphosate on crops like soy and corn and sugarbeats that are genetically modified to withstand it. So it's the big tractors, it's the airplanes that are going over the crops, the 10,000 acres. That's how they use glyphosate. They also use it on wheat and peas and beans and grains as a drying agent. So again, big tractors spraying just before harvest or airplanes. And so it dries the whole crop out and you can harvest it more easily. So it's mostly used on major commodity crops in big way. Small farmers are mostly not using it. They're the health risks of glyphosate. Yeah. So it's been shown, as I mentioned, to be a carcinogen with 10 different types of cancers. It has been shown to be an endocrinous rupture, meaning it causes birth defects and miscarriages and hydrogenization of baby girls, it damages sperm. It's been shown in pig studies of 30,000 pigs to decrease fertility by 33% repeated studies. Just with glyphosate, not with GMO as even, just glyphosate sprayed grains, it causes liver and kidney damage at very low levels, it causes neurological damage, nervous system damage. It's connected just a whole bunch of autoimmune issues and it functions in different ways. Okay. Functions a couple didn't wait. Causes all these problems because of the way it functions. One is that it's a key later. It grabs on to and makes unavailable the vital nutrients of any living thing it touches. Anything. Studies have shown from Dr. Don Huber who's a 60 year plant pathologist. He's a professor emeritus at Purdue University that glyphosate reduces the nutrient uptake in the root of the plant by 20 to 85% and in the shoot of the plant, which is what we eat, by 80 to 95%. That's the keylating factor and they tested the minerals and they were zinc, iron and magnesium and those are the basis of our immune system. So Dr. Don Huber says that glyphosate essentially gives a plant AIDS, an autoimmune disease and so the normally harmless bacteria in the soil kills the plant because it has an autoimmune disease. It's 140th of the amount of the normal application. So the wind blowing it. Yes. So if your neighbor is spraying glyphosate and you're not even using it, your crop is going to have 80 to 95% less nutrients. Now what does that mean? Not only you, not giving the customers what they're paying for, right? Your crop is going to be more susceptible to pests, more susceptible to weeds. It's going to have a lower yield. It's going to have poor quality. It is no bueno. I mean, if anybody is using glyphosate in America, the result is neighboring farms. I mean, it comes down in the rain. It comes through the irrigation water. Unfortunately, that is a reality and I have seen thousands of test results that corroborate this statement. If you go to Dan Kitchridge from Bio-Nutrient Density Institute, if you look at our test results, we've tested 40 samples of all kinds of food, you know, military food, school lunches, fast food, with this accredited lab that we use that tested the food we test said there are more toxins than nutrients in the school lunches that we tested. Where Americans getting exposed to glyphosate the most? From your grains. So it's from your oats, your hummus chickpeas, because it's sprayed with a drying agent, or pasta, your pizza, your lentils. It's mostly the grains and the beans and the goons that are sprayed with glyphosate. You're wheat, you know, anything that's made with wheat. So does that mean that Americans shouldn't eat those foods? It would mean that you should eat those foods organically grown, or you should not eat them. It just depends on if you have access to them. I think this reason alone is why so many people are going carnivore and feel so much better eating only meat, because they're not exposing themselves to glyphosate. They're also not exposing themselves to mycotoxins that are on grains. Glyphosate, because of that nutrient issue that I told you about when it weakens the plant, it also proliferates the presence of mold by 15 times. And when mold is increased in a crop like grains and beans, it will produce mycotoxins. That's a byproduct. Meal alone, aflo toxin, okra toxins, and those mycotoxins can cause mental illness, depression, all kinds of health problems. It's a huge problem that Western farmers right now in the Midwest are not talking about. And what they do is they take the grains that have high levels of mycotoxins, you know, in mold, and they mix it in with another batch that doesn't have as much so that they can pass it off and put it into the marketplace. We have a major mycotoxin problem in our food supply right now, and the farmers know it, and they're saying they don't know what to do about it, but what to do about it is stop using glyphosate. I've heard that there isn't really a difference of organic versus non-organic food. That organic is basically the standard that means nothing and that they are still putting a bunch of stuff on there. Is that true or not true? Well, they do use pesticides in organic, but there's only a certain number, it's a very small number that are allowed by the National Organic Standards Board, and they don't allow glyphosate, they don't allow 240, they don't allow, for sure, 86 pesticides that are banned in other countries. So the toxicity of the pesticides is way less in organic food, and there are some organic foods that have been fraudulently labeled. We grow a huge amount of soy, I don't know how many millions of pounds a year, but 70% of it is exported to other countries, it's exported to China, Vietnam, Asia, Japan, you know, to feed their animals for their meat. And the soy that we import for our organic food in America, like veggie burgers, it's 80% 80% of the soy that we eat in America that's supposed to be organic is imported. And what happens is that container of soy comes from Turkey, this has been documented, lands at the Long Beach Port in California, it was conventional, all of a sudden. And then the California port, ding, it's organic. And it's worth $2 million more for that one container. Wait, how? They just fraudulently label it organic because they want more money for that container of soy. And then when the detox project tested protein powders, which we have to be really careful about, every single one of those protein powders had the same amount of glyphosate in them, whether they were organic, non-GMO, or conventional. They all had 54 parts per billion of glyphosate in them. I just avoid all protein powders that have soy or peas in them. I prefer hemp because you're much less likely to have any kind of glyphosate spray in them. Yeah, I do an organic grass-fed bone broth-based protein powder. Yeah, I think that would be one of the safest ones. I think that the beef products are much safer because they have four stomachs, they filter stuff out. And I think that's why people who are carnivore feel much better eating beef. They don't feel so good eating pork or even chicken chicken has a lot of arsenic in it. Meat from cows has less toxins in it. That's just what's being shown. 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Do you actually know if your voter registration is up to date, not, I think so, not probably. I mean, do you know that your voter registration is up to date? Because most people are walking around with no freaking clue. And voter registration is one of those things that people assume is just handled and then they show up and find out the government has them listed as deceased, living in another county, or apparently still registered in an apartment where they once paid $2,300 a month to hear their neighbor practice the trumpet. Yeah, a lot can mess up your voter registration. You moved, you changed your name, you haven't voted in a while. You made one typo three years ago and now, you're in this bureaucratic hostage situation. Millions of people either aren't registered at all or they have no idea if they are. Like one in four people are basically just freelancing their democracy. So here's the easiest thing you can do today. Just go to realAlexClark.com/vote. That's it. RealAlexClark.com/vote. Takes 30 seconds on your phone. You can check your registration status updated if you need to. And then you don't have to pretend like, well, I'm pretty sure I'm registered to vote when November comes around. Go to realAlexClark.com/vote and make sure you're actually good to go. It is so easy to check. So when people that work in agriculture say this is ridiculous, there's no studies that show that glyphosate is dangerous to humans, where are they getting that information? From the industry, the number one study that was quoted 99.9 or 1% of the times was retracted just a couple of months ago. So the study that the industry used to say that glyphosate was safe was proven to be written by Monsanto and it was retracted. So this means that the licensing for glyphosate by the EPA should be completely reconsidered. They're nervous about it. That's why they're putting so much pressure on this administration. That's why they're funding hundreds of farmers, GMO farmers to go to the hill and to convince Kennedy and Trump that they're going to go out out of business if they don't have glyphosate. They're putting a lot of money into television ads, newspapers, magazines. They're doing character assassinations of people. They are very intent on assassinating the characters of people who speak up about this and funding the people who are willing to oppose the people who are in opposition to them. For instance, Thomas Massey, his opponent, a heavily funded, to prevent him from running for office. Can we just talk about this for a second? It's crazy. And it's true. I know that a bunch of Israel groups or whatever did pour a bunch of money into Thomas Massey's opponent. But also we're not talking about the pesticide people that were pouring a bunch of money. Everybody was talking about Israel, Israel, Israel. I'm like, hold on a minute. But this is also crazy. Nobody is talking about that. He was the only one who spoke up into the no immunity for glyphosate act. Of course, Bear wants to stop him. It was super controversial when I came out, personally on a personal level and said, we need to vote for Massey. I so disagree with him on a lot of things in terms of Israel and all that. That's just not my thing. I disagree that he accepted Candace Owens endorsement. That really pissed me off. Obviously, I worked for turning point you would say. So that's like a big middle finger to us. So whatever. I didn't agree with any of that. But Maha is my priority. And he's one of our best Maha fighters. So that was where I was going with it. And so I think that that was all super interesting. And you see this too. And modern ag is running these crazy ads now as we're in this election year targeting voters. And you need to look out for these because they say things like, you know, if you get rid of pesticides, your grocery bill is going to go up. Yes. But what's the truth about that? Your medical bill is going to go up if we don't stop using glyphosate. I mean, we got rid of basically glyphosate foods in my house by going organic. And after we did that, my kids did not have to go to the doctors anymore. Before that, we were spending $10,000 a year on doctor visits. This is when they were really little, right? They allergies, earaches, rashes, all those fevers. They were like autoimmune issues all the time. Granted, they were vaccinated. So that contributed, right? But when we went organic, meaning we stopped introducing the glyphosate into their diet, they didn't have to go to the doctor anymore. They slept better, their health issues, almost all of them got better. And so we saved over 10 years, $100,000 on doctor bills just from the little small, you know, doctor visits. Geez. That means our healthcare company saved a million dollars because we had 90% coverage, right? Just from my family. So if you cut out glyphosate from your diet within two weeks, you're going to start feeling better. You're going to start sleeping better. It's if as long as the food that you're eating is organic, right? So avoid the protein powders and the honey process foods, eat whole foods that are organic. And within two weeks, you'll see a difference in your health. But the other thing with these modern ag add attacks, saying your grocery bills are going to go up, when they're talking about groceries, they're not even talking about real food. Because what glyphosate is used on is the fake ultra processed food. So forget this, this is like why it's all propaganda. Forget that. We're focusing on eating real food and then you're not going to notice those crazy shifts. So yes, if we were to ban pesticides, we were to ban overnight glyphosate. Yeah, your grocery bill will go up in terms of ultra processed food. So if all you do is the hot pockets and lace chips, your grocery bill is going to go up. I just love that you understand that. So many people don't understand that. And on top of that, out of the 100% of the food that American farmers grow, 'cause they're saying, "Oh, all American farmers are going to go out of business." Well, 80% of that is shipped overseas. Only 20% of what our American farmers grow is for Americans. So if we were to get rid of glyphosate and most of those farmers were to not succeed or whatever, it actually wouldn't be us that would be starving. It would be the other countries that wouldn't have the grains for their animals and further. their corn or seed oil, right? Their ethanol, ethanol is used quite a bit, right? From it, ethanol is made out of GMO corn. There's glyphosanon. It's definitely senif says she thinks that there's glyphosate in gasoline, right? That has ethanol in it. So then it's in the air. So a huge portion of what American farmers grow is being shipped overseas. So it's not really the security crisis that people are saying to us in America because only a small portion of what American farmers grow is being fed to Americans. I think it should be the other way around. I think 80% of what American farmers grow should be for Americans. It should be for American schools. It should be for our military. We tested military food. There were 62 pesticides in the 40 military food samples that we tested. They all are produced in China, all of them. We're paying China $20 billion a year to poison our military. We only found 29 to 27 pesticides in school lunches and fast food. Why does our military food have so many pesticides in it? That's very freaky. That's very concerning. And what's even crazier is, I mean, we're talking a lot about glyphosate and it's super important, but glyphosate isn't even the worst pesticide they're using, right? So actually, what's worse than glyphosate? Paracquot, diacquot, 2.4D, atrazine, they're all horrible. The thing about glyphosate and what makes it so bad is that it breaks down the blood brain barrier and all kinds of cell barriers and it's a key loop. So it carries those other toxic chemicals into the brain, into the organs. So it makes the other chemicals that are in the body or in the environment, like aluminum and vaccines or paracquot or diacquot or 2.4D, even more harmful. I mean, paracquot is the most harmful toxic pesticide, I believe, in the world, like acutely toxic. Like it will kill things, one teaspoon, kill a body immediately. Where are we using paracquot? We're using it on our food supply. And the FDA is not testing for it. They are not regulating paracquot at all. Vermont just banned it. Yay, go Vermont, good job, chem-China and Syngenta produce paracquot and it's banned in their countries. Okay, we allow it here. What is dicamba? Dicamba is another very toxic chemical herbicide that actually drifts and has been shown to make other crops like curl up. Like it prevents the growth of other crops because it's highly volatile. It will like in low heat or it will just move. It will drift and move to other crops. The Center for Food Safety has sued twice and one to stop dicamba because it ruined millions of dollars. I think it was three million. I don't know, it might be more. It was millions of dollars worth of produce from my peach farmer in Georgia. So there are many farmers that have sued regarding dicamba and it should be off the list. I mean, it's one of the 86 pesticides that have been banned in other countries that are allowed here and they all need to go. And if they did go, if we were talking about a ban, which I know this administration and probably and hardly any administrations are going to have the wherewithal to be able to ban all the pesticides that are banned in other countries, even though they should be. But if they did, they would still have 1067 pesticides left. The farmers would still have a lot of pesticides in their toolbox to use. It would not be that bad for them. So if Vermont was able to ban a chemical as dangerous as periquot, why can't every state individually do this? What do we do? What do we do is people? How do you get your state to ban some of these pesticides? - You speak up. You speak up and you tell them you want this done. And, and, you know, hats off. - Like where do you do that? I mean, literally. - Yeah. - Where you go, you type in, contact my representative or senator, contact my congressperson. And it'll come up USA.gov. And there's a page where you put in your address and it will give you back all of your elected officials from your president to your senators to your representatives. And you can click on a button and email them or call them. It's all right there. Everybody can do that right now. You can contact your representative or senator and tell them what you want them to know, what chemicals that you want banned and how you want your food to be safe and effective. And let me tell you, I just got out of a meeting. I go to D.C. every month and meet with elected officials, staffers. Dude, I did this for the first time ever the other month when we were there in April. And that was like really hard work. And I literally told, I told the other friends of ours that I was with. I admire Zen Honeycutts so much. That is crazy that you go there and do that. I mean, anyone can do it. And it was like exhilarating to do. I'm really, really excited to do it. But just to do that monthly is crazy. Yeah, two to three days a month. I really appreciate being able to go and the people who support us to do that are, you know, sending in donations to be able to make sure I can get the $795 plane ticket from Ashville to Washington, D.C. That's insane. That's like flying cross country. They have a very high price for that. So anyway, I go to D.C. and educate our elected official staffers. They're like 26 years old, you know, polyside students, you know, environmental, ag students. They're paid to listen to you. So it's not scary. And I talked to Davis's office in North Carolina, House Representative, and they said that the reason why they voted a certain way, no, on Luna's amendment, which is to take the pesticide immunity shield out, they didn't vote for it. And they wanted to explain to me why. And I was like, please tell me why, right? And they said, because we got more calls and emails from farmers. So we vote according to the numbers of people who email and call us regarding a certain issue. I said, you didn't hear from moms and parents and other means they said, not enough. So we just didn't show up in that district. Now there were other people we called and emailed and they voted the right way on that farm bill. My point is, it matters. For the representatives who are going to listen to us, now some of them don't write. Some of them are paid off by, you know, big ag or a big farmer or whatever. Like that GT. And they listen to me. And Tomson will vote however he's getting, you know, funded by big ag or whatever. Probably I think the worst conservative in Congress, he was pretty condescending. He literally said, mom's are stupid and don't know what they're talking about. Yeah, called us emotional. Said we were filled with misinformation. He wants to get rid of it. In the farm bill, he put in an act. It's the opposite of prop 12 in California. They said that pigs and cows and chickens should have space. Like pigs shouldn't be in cages where they can't move, right? And I really agree with this not just from a humanities, you know, humane animal raising standpoint, but also because the animals that are in tight cages, you have to give them a lot of antibiotics because they get sick a much more. And so that means those antibiotics are in that animal meat and we develop an antibiotic resistance. So he put in a clause to get rid of that. The prop 12 that was passed in California back in 2018. So in the farm bill right now, there's a clause that will preempt those laws, right, that will allow pigs and cows and chickens to be in really small crates and really small cages. Is this that saved the bacon thing? Yes, yeah. So it sounds really good, save the bacon. But it's kind of not. He just, you know, will do whatever big ag wants him to do. And he may have very good reasoning for that. He may call us misinformationists, but you know, it's not a time to reverse our progress that we have made in farming practices. It is a time now to support them and to support regenerative ag, to support the transition to regenerative, you know, ag. So talking to your elected officials really matters. They have to hear from us. It really makes a difference. Address the moms who say, you know, I don't know the capacity to care about pesticides. Everything is going to kill us. Well, I mean, we all will die. That is true. But do you want to die earlier, you know, or later? And do you want to suffer in the meantime with, you know, neuropathy or brushes or cancer or infertility? Or do you want to make the effort to live the best life and be the best version of yourself and be the best you can in relationships, too? I promise you, when you're not feeling well after you've eaten junk food, I mean, and we've even shown in our fast food testing, butin a dial, causes combativeness and aggression. And it was found at 39,000 parts per billion in a jack-in-the-box burger. And in 47% of the top 20 fast food companies that we tested in their burgers. So if somebody eats a burger with butin a dial on it and they're all jacked up and aggressive and combative, they're not going to be a good husband or a good coach or a good police officer. They're going to be aggressive. They're going to be causing violent acts in America. So what you eat matters. I mean, if you care about your loved ones, even if you don't care about yourself, if you care about your loved ones, you're going to pay attention to what you eat and you're going to start eating more real whole foods that really nourish your body and have nutrient density that supports you to be a good person. If your husband or your father or your neighbor is using round-up weed killer or they are hiring in a lawn service to spray their yard for dandelions and weeds, what should that person know? That person should know that you need to go to contact organics and Google Fire Hawk and buy them a replacement for that round-up, which is a, it's a non-toxic weed killer called Fire Hawk and they can use that, kill the weed dead and maybe two applications, but it'll be gone. They could also use high percentage vinegar. They could use boiling water. They could rake it up with a hoe, pull it up with their hands. They do not have to use a carcinogenic endocrine disrupting nervous system damaging toxic chemical that has been advertised to Americans for 40 years that it's safe and it's absolutely not. They have been lying to us for 40 years and not a single person on this planet should be using a drop of any type of glyphosate herbicide. One thing I definitely am blessed with is that making our house a non-toxic home has been pretty easy because Vance is completely on board Mahatrain. Now, if a guy had been using branch basics before we met, I would have thought, I thought, okay, this man is marriage material. And thankfully, he actually was. But I know not everybody's partner is as excited about swapping out cleaning products. So here's my pitch. What if I told you that your whole family could breathe a little easier, have fewer skin irritations, save on cabinet space, and stop buying 15 different cleaners? 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Now, there are areas in Iowa that have very low rates of cancer, and coincidentally enough, they support organic food. Really? Yes, yeah. There's a city with a facility in Ayurvedic spa. It's called the Raj. And that whole area, it's, I forgot what its name. It's a certain name of the city. It's an Ayurvedic name. And they're all organic. And when you go to the spa, you eat all organic. And you get a detox, which is 5,000 year old science, right? Ayurvedic types of detoxing. And the people in that little city have the lowest rates of cancer. That is seriously the coolest fun fact I've heard in a while. It's true. You should check them out. It's an amazing detox program. So what do you think it means that in the biggest state for agriculture and agrochemicals, we just elected somebody in the primaries to run who is an organic regenerative farmer who's antipesticide? I think it's a sign of the times that people are fed up with these toxic chemicals in these levels of cancer. I think people in Iowa realize that probably every single family in Iowa has somebody that's died of cancer. They for sure have people that have autism, which glyphosate contributes to, autoimmune issues, allergies, asthma, all kinds of issues. Every single family in America has somebody in their family with those issues right now. And I've been to Iowa multiple times. I have dear friends there. I have farmers there. And they know that it's time to transition to organic. In fact, I talked to a farming family where she said they had-- I think it was about 2,000 acres with one family was sustained on that farm that was conventional, GMO conventional farming. When they switched to regenerative organic, they could sustain or feed five families-- five families on that one farm. So switching over to regenerative organic is not only healthier for the soil and for the people. It's healthier for the economy. Like we have an answer. That's the good news. Like people don't think about, oh, it's so impossible. We're not going to be able to switch. No, there are farmers that have switched. And they're healthier, and they're more profitable. And yes, it's a little more work. I mean, maybe it's a lot more work. It's more work. But it pays off because, first of all, they're not dying from it. And they're not getting depression and suicide and all of that. So it's really important. There's this one farmer. He's not in Iowa, but he's in Wisconsin. He's one of our advisors. Mark Doudla, one of the sweetest men you ever met. He's got a wonderful family. His father was a fourth generation farmer, and he got a flesh eating cancer. He was using chemicals. And when they got the box of chemo for his father, which they spent a million dollars to get three more years of life out of him, when they got the box of chemo, it said bear on it. Bear, the same name of the company that sold them the agrochemicals to begin with. So when he saw that, Mark Doudla said, I'm switching over to regenerative reganic. He did, took him a couple years, but he did it. And he's tested clean now, which is weight very low levels of pesticides. He's got regenerative reganic certified. He's an advisor to us. He supports us. And we support him because we want people to know about him because farmers can switch. And they can be more profitable. And they can have greater organic matter in the soil, more biodiversity of the butterflies and the flowers and the insects around them. And they can feed their customers more nutrient-dense food. We tested his beans. And his beans were six, I think it was 60 or 70% higher in particular nutrients in his beans compared to organic and conventional beans. So it works. Is it true that the DOJ and EPA recently wanted appeal to let fluoride stay in our drinking water? Yes. So this administration is being heavily influenced by the chemical companies and the businesses to reverse the regulations that were placed on things like fluoride asbestos, they reverse formaldehyde, they reversed regulations on formaldehyde, and they've made glyphosate on national security asset. I mean, this is like a nightmare for all of us. And I have to say the Democrats who are environmentalists are like, they're right to be so angry about what is happening. They're right, this is a disaster for our health and for our environment. But there's a reason behind it. And it's all business. If you look at the EPA, their mission, and how they're going to spend their money, it basically says that we're going to clear away regulation to make a pathway for innovation. That's what the mission says. We are going to allow for innovation. We're going to make sure we have clean air and clean water for our children. There's like one sentence in there. But the entire rest of the mission from this administration's EPA is essentially, we're going to put business first. As conservatives, we cannot let leftists be the only voices that the administration hears that are complaining. Because what happens is they hear that they go, this is a left wing issue, our constituents, our voters don't care. Exactly. So then they don't listen. It's when we start making noise and they're like, oh crap, like this actually matters to our voters. So maybe we need to rethink what we're doing or look into this or figure out a compromise. So it's very important that we don't let the left be louder than us on this topic. What should we know about data centers? First of all, I'm very excited about the movement and the awareness about them. I'm seeing the Facebook posts on it. 50% of data centers have been stopped. So that is a good thing because these data centers use an enormous, it's like five million gallons of water a day in some data centers. It's a billion gallons over a year for some data centers. They are sucking up the water underneath the ground. Wells are going dry. A 64 year old woman, she had to move her home before the Amazon data center even opened because it was like the free watering that they had to do to build the foundation. So they're sucking up the water. They're sucking up the power. Lake Tahoe 49,000 people were told that they're going to have to find a new power source by next year because they're sucking up all the power. Trump just allowed coal. He's putting I think $70 billion into coal to be reproduced now for the data centers. Coal ash is so, it has a heavy metal in it called thalium that is so toxic, it's used as rat poison. And unfortunately, kale absorbs it at very high levels. And that was the heavy metal that was in my son that at very high levels that contributed to his depression and his suicide. It comes from coal ash. I just learned this recently. It is a really bad idea to allow and support more coal because it poisons and pollutes the water in the air. It's a really bad idea. Data centers also are taking up neighborhoods, serenity. The noise is causing infertility in the livestock. Like the livestock are not reproducing babies because the vibration and the noise that's constant throws, yeah, it throws off. I don't know what it's doing in their bodies, but they're not reproducing. like farmers are saying, like our cows. or having no-cafs. So what is it doing to our children and our people? We don't know, you know, constant noise. And there's a lot of other issues with data centers that I'm still processing all of it, but we need to make sure that you got to go to your zoning center, your zoning board, your commissioners, and find out, are they trying to put a data center near you and you've got to go to your town halls and speak up? Why do you think we're seeing an explosion of ticks in this illness called alpha gel, where you can't eat meat, for example, after you get bitten by a tick? Yeah, I'm very concerned. I mean, I've seen some videos about, you know, some Bill Gates friends guys that said, oh, well, we can solve this climate change problem by releasing ticks that give a person an allergy to red meat. So if a lot of people can't eat red meat, then they won't be, you know, growing all these cows that are emitting gas that's contributing to climate change. That's what they're saying. They're completely ignoring the fact that actually water in the atmosphere is what holds in most of the temperature and the heat. Carbon is like 0.4% of what's in the atmosphere. It's the water that's holding in the heat in our environment. And so, you know, they're going after carbon so that people can make money off of carbon credits. They're drumming up a lot of fear. The climate is changing. There are a lot of climate disasters. I live through one of them and, you know, Hurricane Helene. There's some really disastrous things happening with the climate. But I don't think we should be giving people an allergy to meat through genetically modified ticks in order to fight climate change. I'm not, I don't agree with that. Are we using our tax dollars to fund chemical spraying in these skies? Our taxpayer dollars definitely contribute to federal, you know, monies for for geoengineering. And there's a lot of private companies that do geo engineering as well and make a lot of money from it. How big of a deal is geoengineering? It's a very big deal. I mean, people are right when they say we don't really have organic food if they're spraying aluminum in the skies. Okay, so what I don't understand is what is the purpose of the government spraying aluminum in the sky? Well, the aluminum is used to cloud seed to make rain or clouds to cause the weather to change. They're saying it's because the temperature is too hot, so we need to block out the sun. So we need to spray aluminum to and other chemicals to create clouds to block out the sun and to create rain. And so, you know, they could say there's a good intention around that. But the problem is the levels of aluminum in our food now are off the charts, like 40,000 parts per billion, super high levels of aluminum in baby formula in Girl Scout cookies in gluten free food. I mean, it's crazy how much aluminum is in our food right now. And aluminum has been directly linked to Alzheimer's and to autism. And when people say, oh, you know, there isn't really geoengineering. And I'm like, well, okay, so why are there GMO plants genetically engineered to withstand aluminum right now if they're not spraying aluminum from the sky, right? Like, why would they be genetically engineering plants to be able to grow despite a high amount of aluminum, right? So, you know, just something to look into. Why is there more than meets the eye to this USDA announcement that we're going to be making more sustainable clothing? This is so exciting, we're going to be making more cotton clothes. Ah, yeah. So, the cotton farmers are a very powerful lobby company. And they're funded by the chemical companies because, guess what? Cotton is the most highly sprayed crop out of all of them, more than soy, more than corn, more than tobacco even. Like dicomba that you mentioned, parquat, diequat, all of these really toxic chemicals are used on cotton. And what has happened recently with this movement for regenerative, there are farmers that were organic cotton farmers and it's more expensive to do that, right? If you try to buy an organic cotton t-shirt, it's pretty dang expensive. It was so expensive for them that they saw this new movement for regenerative and they're like, oh, we could be regenerative and still have a good name, still have a good brand image, but we could use toxic chemicals because regenerative doesn't mean no toxic chemicals. So, there's been a huge decline in organic cotton farmers now because they're switching over to regenerative. And so, there's more toxic chemicals that are being used in cotton farming now. And they have convinced our USDA that this is a great thing to produce more cotton. And this is because the chemical farmers get to sell more chemicals. Exactly. And so, this is one of those like sneaky you need to read between the lines, types of announcements where, yeah, I mean, we've done a lot talking about chemicals in our clothing on this show. I had Hannah Dunningon, who's a phenomenal chemical clothing activist. And so, she really educated the audience on how toxic our clothes in the United States are and how we really need to be switching over to cotton. But it's organic cotton. Yes, it has to be organic. So, you have the USDA saying, yay, more sustainable clothing. We're going to be making more cotton clothing for you. And a lot of us want to jump for joy, but then it's like, oh, wait a second. This is kind of a backdoor way to pat the pesticide manufacturers on the back and say, hey, we got a good deal for you. Here's another way to put your products to use. Yes. Exactly. It's exhausting. It's right for me. It's the hardest job. Every day, it's a whack-a-mole man. It is another thing. They're just fine in more and more ways to sell pesticides. That's what they're doing. That's our job. They have a fiduciary duty. They have a duty to their shareholders to make money. So, they have to find as many ways as possible to sell more chemicals. That's what we're up against. Before you pull into that drive-through for a fast food craving. And not even like this food is going to make you fat, nothing. I mean, what should people know? That they don't know about their fast food. Okay. First of all, I don't do that. I never go to fast food places. I have to bring my food with me or I starve. I don't eat fast food. But I did before. And I understand it. It's very easy. But we tested 40 samples of fast food. All the top 20 plus one we added in and out, which was actually number 31 or 33 on the most popular fast food list. But we added it because we had some board members from California who was like, they were like, we need to do this. So it was top 20 plus one fast food brands. We tested them for glyphosate, for pesticides, for heavy metals, for veterinary drugs and hormones. And we found some really disturbing things. Like, one was we found an aviary contraceptive in Chick-fil-A sandwiches. This is because it is also an anti-parasitic. And it kills a very common parasite called cocositis. But they can't give it to egg-ling birds because it will prevent them from laying eggs. So there's an aviary contraceptive in Chick-fil-A sandwiches. And probably to be fair, in all the chicken sandwiches in other fast food places too, we just haven't tested all of the multiple samples of all of them to find out more. But it's very likely present in almost any chicken that you eat out at restaurants because of the practices that they use. So we also found the highest level of glyphosate in Panera bread. We found the highest levels of pesticides in one of the pizza companies. I forget which one it was. We tested dominoes and pizza, I believe. But one of the pizza companies had a vegetable pizza that we tested and the vegetable pizza was the one with the highest level of pesticides, which makes sense because you put pesticides on vegetables, not on cheese or on pepperoni. So the pepperoni and the sausage pizza, no pesticides, but the pizza with vegetables on it, lots of pesticides. And we found glyphosate in, I think it was all of them. It was at least 93 to 100% of the fast food brands had glyphosate. And we found butin a diol, as I mentioned earlier, that causes combattentiveness in that's a steroid in a center central nervous system, depressant drug in Jack in the Box, 39,000 parts per billion. And we found it in 47% of the other top 20 brands we tested. Heavy metals in all of them and in lead was very high in sonic burger as well. None of them really rated very well. Chipotle had the lowest amount of pesticides. And McDonald's was actually somewhat lower than the other ones. Isn't Chipotle GMO free? Yeah, they're GMO free, but they had to stop advertising for that because one of the trolls or you know somebody sued and said your food is not all GMO free because the cows like the cheese and the meat from the animals is not GMO free because they're they're still fed grains that are GMO. So they were right. Technically right. Technically right in that way. But the other foods were not GMO right like the corn and the soy and the beans and the you know all those other things were not GMO. So Chipotle was the safest one out of all the fast food brands that we tested. Yeah, I've started flossing by the pool. Sue me. It's the most powerful I've ever felt. There is something deeply luxurious about standing in the sun. Overpriced iced coffee sweating beside you, birds chirping and just excavating a little piece of steak from between your mullers like you're on an archaeological dig in Greece. This is where I'm at in life. Sorry you're not as cool as me. Other people are chasing youth. 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Ben took his own life and you found out something after his death that you really believe could save others' lives and transform their lives. What was it? I found out several things, but what we did was we tested him. We had a functional medicine doctor who supported me and getting them tested when I started noticing depression. We noticed some things and we did some things about it, but he didn't take any of the supplements to help them detox. We found high levels of thalium, which is in kale, as I mentioned earlier, and it's absorbed up by coal ash. And thalium is so toxic, it's used as a rap poison, and it causes mental illness because it causes DNA breakage. And he ate kale, I mean, I'm talking a huge family-sized salad every day. We found high levels of mycotoxins, which come from mold that glyphosate helps to grow because of it breaks down the immune system of the plant. So high levels of mycotoxins, probably from the grains and the beans, it's very common to be found in them, and that mycotoxins also contribute to depression and mental illness. We found high levels of candida, which is very common in people with heavy metals because the candida tries to eat up the heavy metals, just like parasites. They try to eat up the heavy metals. I'm not sure about the parasites, I don't think we tested for that. We also found very low levels of nutrients, and we can attribute that to glyphosate because it reduces the nutrients uptake in the plants. And those low nutrients can also lead to depression. And we found very low levels of cholesterol because he was a vegan for seven years, he did not eat animal products, and low cholesterol can absolutely contribute to depression. So all of these things can lead to mental illness, and on top of that, he had the MTFHR gene and other gene variants that can prevent a person from detoxing. Did you know this before? He died? We knew that around a year before, so we didn't know it early enough. He was starting to get depressed already. And we found out more of this information. We found out about some pesticides, like DDT and some other pesticides that he had after he died. People donated very generously, so we found out more about the toxins and the pesticides that were in his body after he died. These pesticides were either coming from, like he only ate organic, except for Chipotle, Chipotle didn't have that many pesticides, but I guess they had some. And then some of the pesticides could have been there from, you know, 10 years before. I don't know, you know, if they were there from before, my family was also sprayed by a helicopter with pesticides many years ago. I don't know if that contributed to it or not. That was like the chemical company's trying to torment you, right? I believe so. I believe that my family was targeted, yeah. So I just want to say about the MTFHR genes and the other gene variants, 40% to 60% of Americans have these genes, and they don't know it. And they are the ones I believe that are the most impacted by vaccines and by chemicals, by EMFs. They're the ones that are going, you know, eating only meat, right? They're the people that are, they cannot detox these chemicals that are being introduced through the food. So they get depressed and their, you know, livers and kidneys break down and they have mental, they have all kinds of autoimmune issues. So I really encourage people to get tested, get the genetic testing, and I know people have concerns about other people knowing about a bunch of X's and C's and Z's and V's and all that on a piece of paper. I don't have that concern. I have the concern that I know what my genetics are, so I can do something about it. Like for instance, we found out that Ben did not absorb choline well through plants genetically. I don't either. So we have to eat eggs either, either eggs or beef liver. That's where choline mostly comes from. But he was vegan, so he wouldn't, he wouldn't eat those. So that affected his brain. If he was alive today, would you be like, Ben, we've got to switch you, like complete opposite? No. You need to be eating all meat. Yes, I would. I wish I had brought him to meat stock, and I did talk to him about eating meat. I noticed his depression, and he fought me on it. He read a book called How Not to Die by Michael Greger. He watched a movie called Sukja, and he decided to become a vegan. And I think he was basically brainwashed into believing that was the best thing for him. And I'm really, really unhappy with the vegan sort of movement, unknowingly, it's not really their fault, but unknowingly not advising people that there are some people genetically who should not be vegan. You should find out genetically what type of diet you should be eating, and some people should not be vegan genetically. It's just not how they're made up. And if you have the M.T.F.R. genes and other gene variants that prevent your ability to detox, you should know that at birth. So moms across America right now is working. We want to find a sponsor for a bill that's called the Newborn Genetic Testing Disclosure Act, because I don't know if you know this, but if you give birth in a hospital, which I don't advise, I advise a home birth, but if you give birth in a hospital, they will test your baby for genetics for rare genetic diseases. And they will only tell you the information that they have tested your baby for if you test positive, the baby test positive for a rare genetic disease. They test for 200 other genetic steps, and they don't tell you about it. So we think the parents should know all of that information, and if they had that information and they could see that their baby has the M.T.F.R. genes or the other gene variants, as explained to them by a geneticist, by their own choice after they give birth, then they would know whether or not it's more risky for them to give their baby a vaccine on the first day of life or at two months old, or use body care or baby washes that are toxic, or use formula that's not organic. If the parents knew what the genetic makeup was of their babies from the beginning, they would be much better served in being able to take care of their babies. So I think that Ben's passing could, if we could get a bill passed like this, or if we could raise awareness with hundreds of thousands of people like on this podcast, his passing could save the lives of millions of babies. I think that would be so beautiful. I think that's why he came here, and we made a contract. I was my belief that before he came to be mother and son, and I think he came to support me and creating moms across America and reaching hundreds of millions of people and supporting them in their health, and he taught me all along the way. We were taking a hike when he was little. He was probably eight or something, and his brother was probably five, and he was kicking a pile of ants. And I said, "Body, be nice. Be nice to nature." You know, don't kill the ants, and he's like, "But why? Why do we have to be nice to nature?" And Ben said, "Because we are nature." Why is? Little kid. He taught me all the time. He had the most willpower of anybody I ever met. He was a survival skills expert. He was a man of God. He wanted to marry a vegan, virgin, unvaxed woman. That was very hard for him to find. I bet it was. Yeah, he did. Yeah, it was not. 'Cause I don't know about vegan and unvaxed. That's hard. Yeah, he's going to have to come back another lifetime for that, because. But maybe he'll take out the vegan part and be like, "It's okay if she eats meat, but she's got to be organic." Yeah. A vegan, organic version. Maybe he'll have more luck with that, but he was a beautiful, beautiful human being and I'm so grateful to have gotten 22 years with him. Everything that you're doing with moms across America, I mean, you're just continuing in honor of him, I know. And anytime that I get asked by the audience, well, I really want to do what you do, I want to be involved in Maha. How do you know the protests are happening? How do you know, like, how to call your representatives and what to say? I always say, please, contact moms across America. I mean, I'm always sending them to you. Thank you. So what is moms across America? It's a 501c3 non-profit. We've been around for almost 14 years now and we're a national coalition of unstoppable moms and our mission is to educate and empower mothers and others with actions and solutions to create healthy communities. So we've been creating healthy communities and basically making America healthy and for a long time and we're going to keep doing that no matter what happens with Maha or Trump or Kennedy. It doesn't really. We're going to keep doing what we're doing. We also created a 501c4 branch, a legislative arm called the Moms Across America Movement and we are championing policy and public servants who put children, health, safety, and America's future first. And the tagline for that is, yes, ma'am, right? Moms Across America Movement. Yes. So I really love that and we're, you know, endorsing candidates and we're pushing, you know, we're promoting policy and so we can be more active. That's really the arm in which I go to DC every month. But we do some education through Moms Across America too. So get involved, come in our Monday Night Moms, connect calls. We have Monday nights with a discussion at 7pm Eastern Time and sign up for our newsletter to get that invitation. Donate to us, please, we are have a very, very tiny budget. You would not believe us. We are just working on a shoe strength and so we really need support to get more testing done and to expose the truth and to empower people with solutions to be able to support their families to get healthy again. We need the truth. We need the truth right now and we need people speaking up about it. I'm so grateful for your podcast because I know the people who listen to you are hungry for the truth and they're willing to share it and talk about it and they can't stop us. They cannot stop us. They can censor us on social media. They can, I don't know, put out fake AI videos and all that. But backyard barbecues, preschool parking lots, right? Your friends house, they can't stop us there. So we're just going to keep sharing and we're going to keep raising, raising health to make America healthy again. Where can people find you on social media? You can go to Instagram and Facebook, X, Telegram and LinkedIn for moms across America. If you could offer one remedy to heal a sick culture, physically, emotionally or spiritually, what would it be? Really for any of it is trust your body, which for most people means trust God, right? Because God is within us, but trust how you feel when you eat something or when you think that something might be dangerous and look into it. Trust yourself. Don't look to the news and to somebody else. Trust yourself. Thank you, Zen, for coming on Culture Pathcare. A second time. You're on my OG first guest and that I'm so crushed. It was like the night before the election, I think. Oh, that was so awesome. It was such an honor to be on before the election. Thank you so much. Yes. That was a cool episode, you guys. I was fresh enough. You have to listen to my first interview, Zen, so if you're like, this is the first you've heard of Zen. This is kind of like just in addition to her really in-depth episode on glyphosate and all the testing that they've done, crazy stuff, and what they found with the school food and military food and food and jail. And so that episode was phenomenal. It changed a lot of people's lives, so follow Zen, support her, the work that they do at moms across America. Thank you. Thank you. One thing that always stands out to me about Zen's story is that she wasn't a scientist, a lobbyist, or a politician when she started this work. She was a mom who saw something that she could not ignore. And whether we're talking about pesticides, food additives, water quality, or any of the issues that we covered today, real change almost always starts the same way. Someone decides to stop assuming somebody else is paying attention. Zen, thank you for your years of advocacy, your courage, and your willingness to keep asking difficult questions on behalf of families across America. If you'd like to learn more about Zen's work, moms across America, or her book, Unstoppable, will have everything linked in the show notes. New episodes come out every Monday and Thursday at 6 p.m. Pacific, 9 p.m. Eastern, wherever you get your podcasts. Please leave us a five-star review on Apple or Spotify. Tell me how long that you have been listening, it takes two seconds to do, and really, really helps us out. This content is for informational purposes only, and is not intended to be taken as medical advice. Always consult with a qualified healthcare professional regarding any questions or decisions related to your health or medical care. I'm Alex Clark, and this is Culture about the Carey.