Your Best Leverage Is Knowing Your Customer | Ep 958

This is an "I Heart" podcast. Guaranteed Human. In the middle of the night, Sasuke awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. But was on his screen, would change Sasuke's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Petrile Season 5 on the "I Heart" radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 1969, Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. And at Morehouse College, the students make their move. These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the Board of Trustees, including Martin Luther King's senior, is the true story of protest and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Michael Lemomber. Listen to the A-Building on the "I Heart" radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on-purpose podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. I went blank. I hit a bad note, then I couldn't recover. And I built up this idea that music and being a musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if he took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to on-purpose with Jay Shetty on the "I Heart" radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What if mine control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. When you get someone to join your cult, NLP was used on me to access my subconscious mind games. A new podcast exploring NLP, a.k.a. neuro-linguistic programming. Is it a self-help miracle? A Shetty hypnosis scam? Or both? Listen to mind games on the "I Heart" radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is The Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast with "I Heart" radio. Over back it's been here on the almost famous podcast from San Francisco for the big game and I'm with Rachel Rekia. Joan and Trista, let's jump back into what's been going viral this week. Now, I want to step to you, Rachel. You just took over the Bachelor Happy Hour podcast. Yeah. That's a big deal. Congratulations to you. Thank you. You have a great co-host. I know. I'm so lucky. She makes things so easy. Now, you've been on the almost famous show. You've co-hosted it. I've been here with us many of times. You're always a great co-host. But what are you hoping to bring the Bachelor Happy Hour? It's so funny. I was just talking to Joan and Trista. I'm like, this is so much harder than I thought. I think when I've always co-hosted with you, Ben, we always just have a plan. We go in. We know what we're going to talk about. But I think the thing that's going to be a little different with me and charity is we are definitely not afraid to hold back our opinion, even if it's not the popular one. We've been blocked by several of Jen's men from her season. Are you going to almost famous men? No. I'm not really back. So I'm going to try to be as, you know, polite as I can. But I think being charity, we're just going to say it how it is. So hopefully bring a little bit of controversy. It creates the headlines. How are you going to handle that, though? I mean, it does-- Yeah, I do have to damage control a little bit when I see him in person, for sure. Sure. Yeah, sure. I mean, it is a thing. But I think the thing that the two of you can bring is the honesty, right? Yeah. Almost famous is set up to have the interview, to try to get to the heart of the matter. But we really don't have that freedom. Neither Ashley or myself feel like super comfortable, just blatantly being like, this is ridiculous. Because usually my takes are wrong. I think that's great. Great answer. I agree. I agree. But it will come at you fast. But if people are listening and want to keep listening, you're going to do-- Interviews. You're going to break down episodes. Obviously, Taylor, Frankie Paul, season's coming up. You and Trista both were a part of that kind of reunion that now is getting talked about, shared. Oh, you were there, too. We're all there. Oh, amazing. I would love for the three of you to talk about that. Obviously, we saw it posted on social media. I think I knew it was happening because maybe just like I'd heard rumors. But it looks awesome. It looked incredible. So what did you guys take away from that kind of gathering? Mm. It was fun. It was amazing. Yeah. I mean, there's kind of two parts of it. It was the first time that we had all gotten together. And then we also all got to meet Taylor, Frankie Paul. So the reason we were there was to talk to her and to give her advice. But we had some time-- we had a lot of time with just us and not with her. She was busy. So we got to spend a lot of time together. And I think we really got to know each other and kind of solidified. We have this group chat that's really special. But you're having it with people that you don't really know. We've watched each other seasons, but we don't really know them. And we got to really spend an entire day with each other in the mansion, kind of where a lot of us, our whole batch of journeys, began, and really solidified our friendships. So now, in fact, we even had a little group, part of our group chat, give each other our addresses because we got Christmas cards from each other. And I loved it. So it was like it kind of took all of our relationships to a different level. But then we also got to hang out with you. Now, Trista, I know that this had to make your heart so full because knowing you through the years. Yeah, that's what she is. She is. Yeah, she is. Have not only been the first Bachelorette, but then you kind of wrap your arms around any Bachelorette coming through the whole group. It feels like you've really kind of owned, hey, I want to make this feel like a family. And for years, the show helped with this. The show would bring us together different events we'd have reunions and it kind of stopped over the last six years, I would say. We haven't had any of those. So this was the first time in a while. So we did one 10 years ago. 10 years ago. The Bachelorette. Yeah, okay. 10 years before. And it was Hannah Brown was filming her season. Oh. So it was everybody up to that point. Yeah. We're almost everybody. But I love that you said that because I do, I try to be very intentional about just loving on everyone. I've said this like a million times. We literally just talked. I was just on her podcast and I said almost exactly like that that my heart is just so full. And I feel very maternal towards all of you, like anybody who has been on the show after me, which was, which is everybody all of us. I just feel, I just feel very maternal. So being able to be in a room with, I think there were 16 of us, yeah, I think 17 with 17 Taylor. Yeah, okay. So having all of us together, it just, it truly is a sisterhood. And I, it just makes my heart so happy. And meeting Taylor, I, I don't watch, I haven't watched Mormon wives. Not to say that I won't before season because I have to, but I feel like there's so much talk about who she is on Mormon wives and, you know, how it's going to be messy and chaotic and all these things. And I feel like everyone is probably going into it with this like preconceived notion of who she's going to be and how she's going to act and like all of these things. But you guys, she is, she was so genuine, she was so grateful to be there with all of it. Like, didn't you feel the gratitude? And she was really open to hearing what we had to say. Yes, she, it was like genuine, she was, she wasn't looking around like wondering who the next person was that she was going to talk to or like focusing on her producers. She was like, when she was in a conversation, she was invested and, and present and, and I, very serious. Yes, and truly like, she wasn't like, she wasn't like, she was taking it seriously, like, she was. Yeah, so I, I loved meeting her. I love welcoming anyone new. Well, that, I mean, that's funny. You say that because I don't know if you knew this. God works in the most incredible ways. I'm announces the bachelor because I probably don't know this story and I don't know if anybody actually does. I'm announces the bachelor and my aunt is a huge fan of the show. And they're out visiting Denver, Colorado and they take me to breakfast like a week before my filming starts. And guess who's at the same breakfast spot as me that day? Trista and Ryan. And I get to meet Trista for the first time. Another Hoosier. Go, are you? Go, Hoosjarts. At the breakfast spot a week before my filming starts. And you can tell then, I remember exactly where I was at, it was right outside the door. I can literally pull up the picture. That she was going to care for me well, which is one of those like reminders of, hey, I can do this because you kind of feel like, you don't, it's like a mystery. Really? World? It was a big deal to me. I want to go back to Taylor for a second. I want to hear after meeting her. I've always had this idea that she's going to be very similar to Caitlin Bristow, who was the bachelor at when I was on the show, who I love dearly. We all agree. And I love her because she was chaotic in the sense of she did her own thing. She did it how she wanted to do it, but she was honest. She was vulnerable. She was open. And she was there for the right reasons. She really wanted to meet her partner and her lifelong partner through the show, but she just did it in a way that nobody else had done it before, right? And I have to respect that. And I've always thought Taylor was going to do something similar, which I'm excited for. But you three have met her. I haven't met her. So let's start with you Rachel. How do you think the season will go? How do you think she'll be as the bachelor at? I think, I mean, it's such a good point because we have all spoken and talking about how she would be the most similar to Caitlin, just in an amazing way. But I think the advantage that Taylor has that no one else has is that she's going in and she doesn't want to be the perfect bachelor at all. And I think everyone goes in and they say, oh, I don't care about that, but you really, you do. You want the viewers to be happy. You want the producers to be happy. You want to give a good season. They chose you. Why would you not want that? And I think she's going in knowing that she can do whatever she wants. People are going to love her. People are going to hate her and she's going to get what she wants to get out of it. And I think that's going to give a season where she gets what she wants and it's entertaining. Yeah. So I'm very excited to watch her. Yes. Joan? I feel the same way. You're so right. Like she doesn't have to be somebody else because everybody's already seen who she is. She's been on secret lives and she's been unapologetically herself. She was part of the swinging scandal. She's had rough relationships with other women. She's had terrible relationships with the men. So I feel like she's going in with everybody knowing who she is. I was actually very surprised when I met her. I love her on the show. I actually really, really like her on secret lives. I think she's so incredibly honest and I think people's go to is usually to lie if it makes them look bad and she does not do that. If it makes her look bad, she puts it right out there and moves it and moves on. Yeah. Amazing for us, the viewer, because we'll get to know her. Which we haven't gotten to know, it's been a bit since we've gotten to feel like I get this girl. I think we're safe. They always cast somebody from her previous season because they want you to know them and be kind of be invested. They had this person already because we all know her from secret lives. But the person that I met at the mansion surprised me a little bit. She was way more thoughtful and I remember asking a certain question and I can't repeat it but it sounded like she knew what her shortcomings were and she was asking three of us were together actually when she was talking to us and asked us how we thought she could overcome this personality trait that she had. She was really very thoughtful. I really feel like she's there for the right reason. Honestly, too. I also think that she didn't need to go on the show. She already had secret lives. She went to just gone right on filming that. She did not need the show. I feel like she's there because she wants to find somebody. Yeah. Trista. I do too. I think that she's going to be incredibly entertaining. I mean, incredibly entertaining. I think she has dropped out gorgeous so just that. I mean, just put that out there and she comes with this huge following that I think we've talked about on almost famous is the ratings have been lower these days and I feel like with her following, I have friends who are like, I haven't watched it in years but I am watching this season because of who is the bachelor at. So I'm really excited for the franchise to kind of see this. Yes, Renaissance, like yeah, it's like a new spark that we can be excited about it again. For different reasons, you know, like back in my day, it was all innocent. We had no idea what we were doing and what people were going to get. Now everyone just, I think we're just desensitized to everything about the show. Like we've seen it a million times and she is just, she's just going to throw everything out the window and do it her way. Yeah, I don't think anybody has a doubt that this will be a very successful season. The question that's looming is where will the show go from here? Yeah. And that's a big question because we all want this franchise to continue. It's one that we were part of. It's one that we found love through. You and I. I failed enough in this franchise, I can give advice for days. And your great at it. What if mind control is real? If you get control of behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? And you get someone to join your cult. NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. NLP, aka neuro-linguistic programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain. It's about engineering consciousness. Mind games is the story of NLP. It's crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a new age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all, NLP might actually work. This is wild. Listen to mind games on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. 1969, Malcolm in Martin and Ron, America is in crisis. In a more-house college, the students make their move. Jackson, locked up the members of the Board of Trustees, including Martin Luther King's senior. It's the true story of protest and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Metalic Lemumba. Listen to the A-building on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing and immediately the mask came off. That's your home. That's your husband. To keep this secret for so many years, he's like a seasoned pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage, but it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark. Listen to Patrial Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chatty on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaking of love though, Joan, we are moving to you. I saw a post that Chalk made this week sharing that you two are still together. Oh yeah. Okay. There was talk that you weren't. Now there was talk, yeah, there was talk through the internet that Joan and Chalk were no longer together. People were wondering and questioning. You know, usually I would actually say this in my many years of being a part of the franchise when people start asking that question. Most of the time points to it being true, but Chalk came out and said, no, Joan, the floor is yours. Are the two of you together? If so, why are people questioning it? So we are absolutely together. I think they are questioning it because I do or really. So he's not like a big social media person. So there's going to be a social media moment of the two of us in it. I have to initiate it, and we're just like a regular old couple now. I don't post all the time. I don't feel like every time we go out, we should take a picture of us together. I don't feel like. We're just living. We're just living like a normal life as a normal couple and we are just not great about posting. So it's like kind of on me. I think it's my fault because I'm the one that would have to do it. It's not your fault. You don't owe anything. No living life would be happy. And they love to just come up with, you're broken up because I'm just not good about social media. Yeah. I mean, the two of you then are together and you're strongly together. Absolutely. Give us an update on your relationship. Like what have you learned about each other now? I mean, it's been how long since you've been? So it's been. So we got engaged. It was a year in August. And so you know, my finale wasn't until November, so we were in public until November. So it's been, you know, it's been over a year, a year and a half, like 18 months. We are great. Like we actually spent a whole month together in New York City at the month of December. And so that was the first time we actually kind of lived together. So we don't live together. He still lives in Kansas. I still live in Maryland, but we see each other all the time. In fact, I'm seeing him on day. We're going to go into counter for a couple of days. Then we're flying to LA to do a thing that we're doing there. So we'll be together for a week then. We had a week in December. Like we see each other. We truly do. We just are not great about. Joan, you're having to defend. No. You're not living the dream you're going on, vacations, you're spending time in New York, you're spending time with your own families. I just don't want you to feel like you have to defend this. I do because if I don't, then they say we're broken up or, I mean, one point I died and one point he bought me two houses. Is this on Facebook? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Facebook is ready. Yeah. Did you hear that I have Alzheimer's? Oh. My son. My son is pregnant. Trist is actually pregnant. Yeah. And I'm pregnant. And we broke up. And it's all on Facebook. Oh. Yeah. It's brutal out there. It's crazy. It's crazy. I don't know. I'm almost from his podcast. I said, don't trust any of that anymore. No. But I do think it's great. I mean, moments like this remind the listeners and the fans of the show that you two are happy. I always have thought in my own life, I don't like social media. The less couples really share about each other, the stronger I actually think they are. Totally great. You're living it. You're living it. Yeah. And if I was to show my life with my wife, it's like a lot of walks with the dog. Like, I don't know how cool that is. Totally agree. I don't know what to do with that. I don't talk any out to dinner. Yeah. I mean, I totally agree. That's how our life is. Yeah. I mean, we have great times. Like when we were in New York, we did really fun stuff, but mostly we walked to like a deli to get a bagel. I mean, it's just not bad. It's like, yeah, you don't have to defend it. I'm with Rachel on this. I mean, I think that world, you know, but it is because we come from the world that we do, it is always good to get the update on how things are progressing. And I do feel like I owe it a little bit. I mean, I'm very flattered that people care. And that they are invested in our relationship, just like they're resting in yours and yours and yours. They bought into the whole concept of we dated in public and now we're a public couple. I do owe them like every once in a while a reassurance that we're still together or that we're not. Yeah. That's a good point. Before we go back to the game, because I know you were all kind of on the edge of your seat, starting to talk about this game to that's happening Sunday. It's a big game. Again, we're at radio row at the Super Bowl. There's stars all around us. People I recognize, people that still are playing, people that have retired, coaches, Trista, my question for you is we just kind of got off this Taylor Frankie Paul conversation and what you think she'll be as the bachelor at and what this season will do. I also know that you do deeply care for the people involved in the show, which makes me think you also very much care about the show. Where do you hope the show goes after the Taylor Frankie Paul season? What do you hope changes or stays the same? What's your hopes for this franchise? I just feel like I want it to renew people's love of the show. I love love and that's why I, I mean obviously I have history with the show, but I love love and that's why I signed up to do the show. It's for something fun and exciting that is a escape from normal life that you can just tune, you know, put in your living room and see somebody else fall in love. And I think at the core of it, that's what I hope that people get back to. But I really feel like she's going to infuse, you know, followers into Bachelor Nation from her show. And at least that's what I hope because it's been going for so long that I can't see it ever ending and, and mind you, I think my daughter kind of wants to be part of it somehow, some way. So, thank you. I love that so much. I think we should start a campaign, because she would be like, no, I mean, truly. That's a real possibility. I mean, she would love to be on the show. I mean, and she's been part of it so much like she came on my season. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What a wish. That's a headline. Blake's leave from Bachelorette. I think we should make a campaign. But the second Bachelorette baby becomes the Bachelorette. And then what if she had a Bachelor baby? And then she had a Bachelor baby. And then I would be a Bachelor. Grandma. Grandma. No. No, I know. Alright, to close up here, team, I think the spread at least last time I checked was four and a half for the game tomorrow night. What spread? I think the over was like 47 and a half, maybe maybe a little lower than that. Let's just not a high scoring game. Let's just check. No, I don't think they expect to. Supergirls typically are not high scoring. I want to hear your picks. I want to see if you're taking the money line. If you're taking the spread tomorrow night. And who you're picking for the game. The only reason I'm picking you, I'm picking. Half is the is the over the only reason I'm picking who I'm picking is because Ryan played for them for split second and also because Molly Mesnick would kill me if I didn't so see how to see Hawks. Money line. Taking the win. Yeah. Taking them to win. Wow. Beat the spread, huh? Yeah. Okay. I'm just see Hawks, but I don't think they're going to beat the spread. You don't? Well, no, they're they would. If they win, it's plus four and a half. So, or no, the see Hawks are favored by four and a half, actually, yes. So you don't think they'll cover the four and a half, but you do think they'll win. No, that is a bit close game. Okay. I will pick whichever team has the hottest players and I will go home and look at it tonight. No, I need you to do that here as we're closing up here. Just go ahead and scroll through the rosters as we can, and I need to get that by the way. That's hilarious. You just got so excited. We're going to find her husband here, by the way. Oh, yeah. I have two amazing wing women. Yes. We're walking around right now. So, what's the strategy as Rachel finds out who the hottest players in the see Hawks and Patriots are? What is the strategy to find Rachel a husband tonight? So, we talked about her type. Yeah. I'm not positive we're going to find him here because your type is not, can I say what your type is? Yes. Pretty boys. Pretty boys. We can find a pretty boy. But most football players are not like pretty. Oh. Super. Super manly. Yeah, your manly. Super. One of a pretty boy placed for the Philadelphia Eagles. He was walking around here a little bit ago. I'm not okay. Do you think any Hoosiers are going to be here? Who? Any Hoosiers? Fernando is here somewhere. Oh, my God. We have to find him. I know. I've heard rumors that Fernando Mendoza is in the building. Somebody tell me where Fernando is. I have. I don't know if I could talk to him. Well, I'm going to talk to him for you. And then we're getting a picture. Yeah. I think I give a very clammy. No. But I think I would. No. I just called you Bob almost. I don't think you are getting nervous running. We are finding Fernando. I'm on a mission. You're on a mission. All right. Rachel, what do we got? I feel like the Patriots. I feel like they're a little hotter. OK. They're hotter. So you're picking the Patriots the win? Yeah. Who's standing out to you on the Patriots? Five days. Five. He's cute. Oh, I can't. Cardi B. But he's Cardi B. He's a baby daddy right now. Oh, Cardi B. Baby daddy? Yeah. That's my daughter's. Oh, my God. I don't even know that. Yeah. I'm so bad. This game, our final vote is the Patriots, though. Yeah. Patriots. Patriots for the win. Mike Vrable, their coach. Absolute stud. OK. OK. He's the man. He, you know, just got fired two seasons ago. And now leads his team to the Super Bowl. It is a great environment here in San Francisco. Rater row is exciting and energetic. We have so much to do today. You got to walk around. You got to find a husband. We got to do some interviews. Have a blast this week. We got to go. We got to go. We got to go. We need to start singing a song and maybe he'll come to us. Yeah. I'm the Bachelor to be invited to this event to meet my husband. Exactly. Everyone's always comes back to the Bachelor. Exactly. To get the job as the new host of Bachelor Happy Hour, if you want to listen to Rachel, make sure you go check that out. But don't do it in replacement of the almost famous podcast. Until next time, I've been Ben. We'll see you later. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcasts on I, her radio, or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop, but was on his screen, would change Sasuke's life forever. That's your home. That's your husband. Losing to Patriol season five on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Marlick Lemombo. Listen to the A-Building on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose Podcast. I went blank. And I built up this idea that music and being musician was my whole identity. I had to relearn who I was if you took this thing away, who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty, on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. They gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious mind games, a new podcast exploring NLP, aka neuro-linguistic programming. A shady hypnosis scam? Or both? Listen to mind games on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human.