You're Never Too Far Gone

Hey and welcome to Journey with Jesus. I'm your host and author Johnny Singh and this is a platform that's dedicated to your spiritual uplift and Christian encouragement. Today we've got a pretty good guest with us. His name is Creston Frizzell and I'm excited to have him on in the platform. We're going to be discovering a little bit about his life and he's going to be sharing his story with us and we'll get to know him together. So let's get into it. All right, thank you for being here again with us on Journey with Jesus. I've got a pretty good guest with us, Creston Frizzell, and I haven't been able to know him as much as I would like to yet, but hopefully we both can get to do that today. Creston is one of the local ministers or at least the minister for the Hialeah Church of Christ down in Hialeah, Florida, and he's been there for how long now for Creston? It's been almost eight years now. It'll be eight years in July. Yeah. Man, you don't look a day over 25, so I don't know how you've been there for as long as you have. I feel quite a bit older than that. I've gotten to know about Creston a little bit because we share connected strings in our life. I'm a graduate of the Florida School of Preaching and so is Creston. And at the time that I was in the School of Preaching, my tenure, two of the local guys that's a part of the local congregation there in Hialeah, Eddie and Gavin, you'll get to see them on future episodes. They're members of the local congregation there that Creston is a part of. Creston ministers for, and those guys came to school. So I got to hear a lot about him and a lot about his ministry. And I've been able to tune in a little bit online and look at some of his lessons. And I think he's a pretty cool guy. And I fell in love with his style of preaching when I got to recently hear him at the Florida School of Preaching Lectureship. And man, just a dynamic speaker, just a beautiful guy, pretty authentic, transparent. And those are the kind of Christians you definitely want to sit down with and spend some time with. So I'm excited to hear his story, hear his journey with Jesus. And I hope that you guys have a great day. I hope that you're excited to do that as well. Creston, tell us a little bit about yourself. Who are you? Where you're from? You got a family. What's going on with your life? Let's hear. Well, I don't know if I'd represent all the glowing statements you have about me as accurately as I probably should. But yeah, I've been here at Hialeah now for almost eight years. Before that, we were up in Missouri, Hannibal, Missouri is where we lived before we were there. I was there, I believe, four years and one month almost to the day, I think. I was. And yeah, so I've been preaching now for almost 12 years out of school. And I graduated from the school in 2013. So I started about 2011 or sometime around then. But yeah, I've been, you know, I guess in some ways preaching for about 14 years now, which is, it's gone by a lot quicker than I expected it to be. Yeah. How old were you when you stepped into the ministry? Uh, I was 21 when I, uh, started school, I believe right around there. And I was 22, I think almost 23 when I was hired for my first job. So that's some similar, um, similar circumstances there. I was 21 when I graduated as well. And that's when I got my, uh, no, actually, let me see here. I graduated in December, 2021. So yeah, just turned 21 and I got my first part-time sort of ministering tenure. You know, we say part-time as ministers, but, uh, I just means full-time. Yeah. Full-time without going to an office every day. That's right. So I, I started that when I was 21. So yeah. Wow. Yeah. I mentioned at the lectureship at FSOP that it's not easy to find a job whenever you're that young. So that's pretty cool that you did. I think you said you're at Lake Placid now. Is that right? Yeah. I'm ministering in Lake Placid, Florida, and, uh, it's just a small group of Christians. It's generational, mostly for the membership. We're starting to get a few more, uh, newer faces and folks from the community that has started to discover us. But from what I understand, that congregation has been there for a few generations now. Yeah, they have. Yeah. I don't know if you know this, but Lake Placid was the first place that I actually preached at. Wow. I was there. I was, I guess I was their part-time minister for my second year of preaching school then the entire time. The entire time I was in school that second year, I was preaching at Lake Placid. Yeah, man. Well, you know, we gotta, we gotta figure something out here. See, I'm learning as much as everybody else right now. We've, we've got to make some connections. I'd love to have you back down there. So, you know, if, if, if it, if it opens, if opportunity comes up and you can leave, I know when you're, uh, when you're practically sort of the only minister at a congregation, leaving is like such a task sometimes. But if we can figure something out, we got to get you down there, man, to come say hi to the folks again and speak with us. That'll be awesome. There's a lot of really good people there at Lake Placid for sure. And I, I really appreciated them for all the things that all the ways that they helped me, I guess. But we'll tell you, I do have an easier time leaving than I usually take advantage of. I don't leave very often, but we, you know, as you mentioned, Gavin and Eddie, they're still down here and we've got a lot of really good men that, that do a good job preaching. So yeah. Yeah. Let me know anytime. We'll figure that out. We will. Now you said you were in Missouri for a little while before that. Yeah, just over four years. I was, I was preaching there. That was my first full-time work, I guess. Now, Crescent, are you a native of Florida or are you born and raised in Florida? I was born in Arkansas and kind of raised back and forth. We lived in Arkansas for a while, lived in Tennessee for a little bit when my, my dad went to the Memphis school of preaching. So we lived there for a little while. And then we kind of went back and forth between Florida and Arkansas. How in the world did you end up in Missouri? My dad was actually born and raised in Missouri. So. A little bit, you know, my, my family's kind of from that area, I guess. But yeah, that getting to Missouri actually was, it wasn't where I expected to go. I told my wife when I applied for that job that I'd never live in Missouri again. I actually went through basic training for the army at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri. And so I didn't ever want to go back there again. Wouldn't you believe that God has other plans sometimes and that's where we ended up. Yeah, man. So now your, your dad's a preacher and I got to meet and love him as well. Terry, are you second generation with preaching or was there more preachers in your family? Technically, I think I'm fourth. My great-grandpa, he was a part-time preacher. He had a full-time regular job and then he preached on the weekends. And then my grandpa was a full-time preacher for 60 years or close to that maybe. And then, you know, my dad has preached now for 35 years, or somewhere in that range too. So yeah, I guess a full-time preacher, third generation, but I'm fourth generation. You've got family that's been exposed to that. Wow. My dad's a preacher. My eldest brother is a preacher and I'm a preacher. I've got another brother, he's a chef, but I guess my brother and I would be second generation because my dad was the first one to become a Christian in his family. Then, you know, of course we were raised in the church as a result of that. So you've been in Florida now for over 18 years. Eight years, you said, or have you just been there longer? Almost eight years. Almost eight years. Tell us a little bit. I know I got to say briefly hi to your wife. And from what I understand, she's a beautiful young lady and a great person. I know Eddie and Gavin has said a few things about your family as well. It's just really neat. What's your family dynamics like? How is it that as a preacher, you have been able to balance being a husband and a preacher and then just a all-around friend of many others? I know sometimes that's a difficult thing to you or to do. And have you even learned how to do that yet? I know I haven't. I mean, sometimes it's easier than other times for sure. There is a benefit. My wife, Dina, she actually comes from a preacher's family as well. Her dad is a preacher and both of her brothers are preachers too. So you know, it's kind of in the family, I guess. So that makes it easier for, I guess, home life, you know, for us to be able to just deal with whatever we got to do. At times we travel or have to go places for work or whatever. So it's, it's just kind of normal, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, that didn't come easy. That wasn't always easy to adjust to, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Now you've been raised in the church. Were there ever moments in your life where you thought as a young man, this is what I want to do. I want to minister to other people. This is what I want my life to become like. When I was young, definitely not. I actually, when growing up with a preacher's dad, everybody, especially when my dad preaches in Stewart, they got a really good congregation there. A lot of really good people. But when we were there, I was a teenager whenever we moved there, almost a teenager when we moved there. And a lot of people called me PK for preacher's kid, you know? And so I always kind of resented that, but you know, one of the men who's actually an elder there now, he, he still even jokes to this day that he would always tell me no matter what I'd say or what I do, he'd always tell me, you know, I'd get in trouble and he'd say, don't, it don't matter. You're, you're going to be a preacher. One of these days, just wait. And I tell him not going to happen. Not going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. To this day, he still reminds me that he, he told me I was going to be a preacher and he got it right. Yeah. That's sort of, I actually just uploaded an episode recently about that, that I went from a PK to a P, you know, I went from a preacher's kid to a preacher and it was very similar. You know, I sort of resented that when I was growing up as well. I thought that at least folks in the church, as well as folks outside of the church had some unrealistic expectations of you as a result of it. and I did not want to do that. Now I did fall in love with song lead and I love to sing. and I love leading songs in church so when I just moved here I was actually asking did the school have a song leading program can I just minister in music and learn how to become a song leader for the church and um I remember Brian Kenyon saying no no you've got to be a preacher man you've got to be a preacher yep you can do song leading on the side on the side yeah and uh I know congregations like that too if you're if you're a preacher that can do everything else they feel like you've got a steal right there yep that's right yeah I've just actually started here in Hialeah we we do our song leading by month so one man will lead for a month and the next man will lead for a month and uh they've just recently inserted me into that rotation because I love song leading too yeah and so now I finally get to take part in the song leading and you know still get to preach so that can be a little draining on those days yeah my voice gets pretty weak but I have a blast with it yeah now you did mention that that gentleman that was a or is a part of the congregation when you were younger that was making mention of you becoming a preacher let's explore that trail for a little bit are there other people in your life that sort of helped to shape and influence your path as a Christian maybe inspirations or just people in passing that sort of stuck out to you that made a difference yeah I mean there were quite a few of them you know I don't know you kind of mentioned that you were in love with song leading and kind of resented the whole preacher thing I think I took that kind of to the extreme level I guess I'm not the the you know song leading and just taking a different avenue you know I was baptized when I was I think I was 11 initially but you know at the time you know I had a dad who was a preacher at the time he wasn't preaching but you know he had been preacher for 10 years or so at that point and and he was he was still a preacher you know we had a gospel meeting up in Arkansas at the time and a lot of my friends got really motivated and they were wanting to be baptized and so I said yeah I'll join in and so I did it too without really understanding what I was doing you know I didn't have that kind of motivation in myself to really understand so when we moved to Stewart kind of you know had people kind of pushing me to that you're a PK or preacher's kid or whatever you and or you're going to be a preacher when you get older you know watching my dad preach I kind of pushed away from that as far as I could you know I really struggled growing up battling I really struggled with a few things and one of them mainly was that I didn't see the proofs of God and I didn't have a good belief in God because of that and so there was that battle in myself and so I instead of taking the logical decision which is trying to find that evidence and see whether or not God is real and whether or not the Bible is true I decided since I didn't know it I was just going to fight against it as much as I could and so I did that for a while then when I was I was 18 I was humorous because a lot of those people at Stewart they watched me fight against that and as much as I thought I was fooling them they knew that I was fighting against it as much as I was but you know they continued steadily no matter what I was doing how off the wall I got they steadily and consistently were were just continuously pushing me in the right direction and always being encouraging always you know with a face whenever they saw me no matter what I was doing they were always real encouraging yeah so watching them I guess be that way and have that kind of mindset it slowly chipped away at my hardness of heart I guess you could say yeah and so when I was 18 I was just about to leave for the army right after I graduated high school I was about to leave and join the army and I started to kind of soften up a little bit I guess and just their continuous motivation for me and encouragement and then my dad one day he uh stood up and preached a sermon on you know what it means to be a dad and how to be a good dad and that really kind of hit a chord in me because I always wanted to be a dad and so that always kind of struck a chord in me about thinking forward who I was going to be whether I was going to keep on fighting against everything I've I knew I shouldn't be fighting against or whether I was going to grow up and do what I needed to do and so my dad got to baptize me correctly with good understanding when I was 18 years old and this still wasn't always easy at that point when I when I left for the army I wasn't always doing the right thing uh you know I even came back from that after I got out of the army uh it was one of the lowest points of my life uh you know I was I was as rock bottom as you can be rock bottom at that point didn't know what I was going to do in my life didn't know where I was going to go and you know again I came back to Stuart with a congregation there and with open arms they brought me in you know still had that same smile still was that it was still that same smile and I had same encouraging encouragers as they always were and I kind of just made up my mind that I was gonna I was gonna get my life in order and be a preacher yeah so yeah truthfully there's a lot of people that had a lot of big influences in my life my dad and my grandpa you know teachers at the school of preaching and Brian Kenyon and all those great men Jackie Steersman but uh you know the the congregation at Stuart set a pretty immaculate example of of encouragement that uh that is not replicated at other places as much as it should be yeah yeah that's really beautiful you know you sort of think of Ephesians 4 and 5 where Paul says that once we become one the same faith under the same Lord and the same baptism that we eventually become knitted and joined together and that's really neat that you had that that exposure to Christian family that was like that that's that's a very similar story to my man and again I just shared that on the episode that I did I got baptized when I was 11. And from 11 to like about 15 14 years old man I was like all excited about Christianity I wanted to do everything in the church but by the time I hit 15 16 and life started to expose me to other things I too did step away and from like ages 15 to 18 I was totally off man and again there were members in the church that knew but they were still being embracing of me and you know family knew but they were still being embracing of me and uh there was those turning points for me as well because just like that when I was 18 I had migrated to a different foreign country and I was going to pursue a job there and it was this one mission trip when I was 19 that I was invited on a mission trip to Barbados and some men that are great influences along with my parents we went there together and that really sparked up in me why I know that I love to be a part of God's people instead of pushing it away but there was that point in my life like about a year and a half where they're just like you know there were lack of evidences here and there and I was like I'm not here and there for me and in so that there were so many inconsistencies with people I was conditioned to believe that once you become a Christian then you're supposed to be perfect and I mean not perfect in terms of complete with Jesus but perfect as in faultless and without mistakes and when I didn't see that in figures that I look up to in my life as Christians that sort of told me if God is supposed to make you perfect and you're not perfect then this can't be true that's what I convinced myself to think about and that's what I did and that's what I did and that's what I learned to think so I pursued Islam for a while when I started to study the Quran and learn a few things there and then I actually pursued some other secular religions and it just so happened man that in my pursuit of other things I kept coming back to the Bible and then I want to say providentially that door opened for me to go to Barbados right in that gap and when I was there there were so many people that I saw open the Bible and expose things in a way that I've been really wanting to see and hear for myself and that's when they said hey if you've been struggling with studying and understanding and seeing quote-unquote inconsistencies why don't you come to a place that dedicates themselves to studying that and that's that's what pushed me there but like you said I came to the school and I still had Falls here and there because I'm having to slowly chip away at the cultural conditioning of who I was to now who I'm trying to become I know Eddie and Gavin helped me out a lot with that man there were some days where I just said to myself I'm gonna quit guys I'm going back home I can't do this anymore I literally packed my duffel bag one time and Gavin locked the door and said you're going to sleep right here in this bedroom with us you're not you're not you don't think you're going anywhere man you're going to be right here we'll figure this out so yeah man this is always encouraging when you've got Christian family around you that wants to squeeze out of you what God already has put in you even though you can't see it for yourself so that's really beautiful that you had that encouragement when you did man I know it came out to the product you are you're a great husband and a great preacher and I know you're a good friend of others let me ask you this real quick I was talking to my dad about this in an episode and there was something that I learned a scripture particularly when I was in the school of preaching that uh sort of helped to ground me and it's 2 Timothy chapter 2 verses 24 through 26 where Paul says that a servant of the Lord must not be quarrelsome but gentle to all and able to teach long suffering and he just describes in those few verses the kind of servant that God desires to minister in his kingdom and that stuck with me and I sort of imprinted that and ingrained it on my heart and that's helped me kept me grounded kept me motivated and ensure that I stayed where I needed to be are there places in the Bible that has done that for you sometimes as preachers it's hard not to say the whole Bible but has there been places where you're like these few scriptures or these few chapters or books or stories they definitely imprinted on your heart that help there's for sure I'll be there's a lot of places I could go to uh for sure but there's a couple in particular I think that always are kind of my go-to there's a few I guess them is 1 Thessalonians chapter 5, when Paul tells us to live a quiet life, to mind our own business and to do our work with our hands. I always love that passage because it tells us that we need to be working on ourselves, not worrying about others, not worrying about what other people are doing, but worry about our own selves and our own life and what we're supposed to be taking care of ourselves. And especially, I think over the last decade, I don't know, I haven't been alive for 50 years or anything, so I don't know what life was like back then, but at least it appears to me, because of social media and the way technology works nowadays, that we get really, really focused on other people. And we so much are involved in other people's lives, which is a good thing to some extent, but it can become really problematic. And so that verse has always struck a chord with me whenever I start hearing about other people or what other people are doing or comparing my life. And I think there are a lot of people out there who are thinking, "Oh, this person's got all these blessings I don't have," or, "This person's got all this sin in their life, I don't know why they don't fix it or do better." It's always important to me to remind myself to mind my business. This doesn't have anything to do with me. It's not my concern. If they want to talk to me about it, I'll talk to them about it. But if they don't want to, I need to keep my nose where it belongs, which is in my own situation. I think you do very well in the Caribbean, man. There's actually, there's some, there's a few popular songs in the Caribbean, and one of it, the chorus, is "Mind Your Own Business." Yeah. And it exposes the idea of how, well, I guess there's a cultural thing that's similar here, the keeping up with the Jones. I've heard that phrase here a couple of times. So there's some, there's a few things like that in the Caribbean as well, with nosy neighbors looking over your fence and trying to, you know, see what's going on in your life to expose you or do all this kind of stuff. So yeah, yeah. Wow. First Thessalonians. The other ones that, I think, not to waste all your time, but the other ones that I think are really important to me, the one that kind of was the original one for me was 2 Timothy 1:12, when Paul talked about all of the suffering that he's gone through, all the trials that he had, and he was trying to talk to Timothy about all those things. But he said in 2 Timothy 1:12 that he wasn't ashamed of those things. But, you know, that was the reason that he became a minister of the gospel. And one of the things I think I really struggled with when I was learning to be a Christian as I needed to be a Christian and learn how to be a preacher was to, you know, step into a world that I didn't know for so long and a world that I wasn't involved in and that I pushed away. And then my, I guess, desire to push that away as much as I could, it almost built up in me that I felt ashamed whenever I was living as a Christian, that talking about those things was almost shameful to me because I, I conditioned myself to that extent, you know? And so it really took a while for me to work that out of myself and to realize this isn't anything to be ashamed about. This is something to be prideful about. You know, if you had the grace of God in your life, why, why would you have shame about that? That, that needs to be the greatest thing in your world. It's just like you'd brag about a job or an accomplishment in your life. Greater than all those things is, is Jesus. So why wouldn't you brag about that and, and be thankful for it and be talking about it to everybody, you know? And yeah, the final one is Romans 11 verse 33, when Paul talks about the depths of the riches, the wisdom, knowledge of God, how unsearchable his ways and his judgments past finding out. That to me has always been really important in the process of my growth as a Christian and as a preacher, just, you know, as a person is learning, I guess, the foundation of, of learning not to be ashamed of God and the foundation of not being ashamed of who you are and what you are, where you come from or learning to mind your own business or anything. I think the foundation of all those things is to remember that God is a really awesome God. Yeah. And I guess the more we learn about him, the greater everything gets in our life and, and the greater everything about our, our mind and our, our family, our church, our Christian walk with God, everything gets better. The, the more you learn that God is awesome. Yeah. And to remember how little we are and just to rely on him and to trust in him and everything. Yeah. I think that changes my perspective a lot more. I, I needed a lot of humility when I started preaching, uh, that I, it took me a while to learn, you know, being a preacher's kid and a preacher who was stepping into that role as well. It kind of came with a hot head for a little while. And I, I had to learn that this doesn't have anything to do with me, that I'm, I'm just a little tool that God uses for a time. If I'm not doing my job, God is going to put somebody else in my place to do my job for me. So this isn't because I'm so good. This is because God's so good. And so. So, you know, it's, it's all, it should all be about him and, and remembering how amazing he is. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome, man. You know, there's, there's so many instances where I'm sure lots of people sometimes think to themselves that like you said, there's a lot of areas where you should be ashamed of who you are now as a result of who you once were. And that's, uh, that, that, that, that, that touches me, man. I'm, I'm glad you shared that as well. I had to deal with that as well in my life. And you know, sometimes I feel like my thorn in the flesh, his imposter syndrome, you know, the reality of sort of who do I identify with? Do I identify with the person that I was grappling onto and trying to hold onto tightly that served his flesh? Or am I trying to hold onto the person that the Holy spirit wants me to become? So thank you for sharing that, man. Really. Thank you for sharing that. The best way for me to learn to overcome that was to learn God is a truly great God. And man, if he truly is that great, then there's, there's no reason all those things in the flesh, they don't even matter. None of those things matter. It's just, it should, everything should be about God if we truly do love him. That's right. And you know, that's, that's why this platform exists, Creston. It's for other people to recognize that sometimes faith can be sort of misunderstood in the world. And sometimes we're conditioned to think that Christians are these uptight, perfect people that point our nose down with others. And when you actually get to talk to somebody that's a, that's a Christian, you know, we're talking to them to a minister, you know, we got talk, talking to two ministers here. You get to see that, everybody has different levels of fates. Everybody has got different aspects in their journey. And the biggest thing is Jesus just wants you to walk with him. He just wants you to listen to his voice and walk alongside him with the intention that the closer you get to him, the closer you look like him. And there's people that think they're too far behind the pack to keep up with him, but that's not true. That's not true. And, um, that's why we're here. Or that you've gone too far in the opposite direction that you can't get back. That's right. And if anybody's feeling that way, by the way, I'll tell you, there's not a lot of people who got further away from God than I did, but it doesn't matter how far away you get. God is still able to reach out and grab hold of you and pull you back. Yeah. What would you share to people out there, Creston? You've been able to just give us a good overview of your life and how Jesus has impacted you and your journey with him. There's people out there that I'm sure that are listening and probably having questions of, you know, whether or not they're good enough for Jesus, maybe their hearts is constantly against them, or maybe that reoccurrence sin, you know, makes them feel imperfectly, you know, unattainable by him. If there's somebody out there that needs to hear a few kind words to know that they can journey with Jesus, what would you say to them? You know, what I, what I always say, whenever people talk to me about them being too far away or they're, they don't see how they can live a life with God or, or, you know, life's too difficult to make that decision, or they just don't know where to begin, or maybe they're not as good a Christian as other people are not as good as other people or whatever. Uh, the, the thought that always enters my mind is second Corinthians 12. Paul, you know, he, after he talked about in chapter 11, all the suffering you went through, all the pain that he had to endure as a minister of the gospel in chapter 12, then he, he talks about his humility, that even though he, Paul's the greatest minister that church ever had. And yet, even though that was the case, said, you know, he, he had thorns in the flesh. He had troubles that he had to go through, but it had nothing to do with him whenever he did a good thing. It was all about God. God was strong in Paul's weaknesses. And I think that's an important idea that we all kind of have to get our minds wrapped around. You know, some people might think we're too far away from God that we can come back. Well, we're not, no matter how weak you are, God is strong enough. His graces is beautiful enough and powerful enough. It, it picks everybody up. It can pick anybody up. Uh, not only that, but if you're not as good as somebody else as a Christian, you know, uh, sometimes we, we think that somebody else is a really good Christian. We're just not a good enough Christian or somebody who's a better preacher and I'm not a good enough preacher. You know, it, it shouldn't, it shouldn't be about whether we're as good as somebody else. It should be about, we serve the same great God. And if we do nothing else even matters. Our goal should just be to serve him. I might not be as good at avoiding sin as somebody else, but God is just as good about washing away my sin as he is somebody else's. You know, I, I think that's the idea I, I always want to put in people's heads is God's grace is so good. It doesn't matter how good we are. What matters is, are we living in his grace or not? And if we're living in his grace, then there's nothing to be ashamed of. There's nothing to worry about. There's nothing to struggle with, but we just gotta focus on him and we are gonna struggle. But if it's all about God, it doesn't matter what happens in our life. It doesn't matter. What our, our anxieties are. It doesn't matter what our depressions are. It doesn't matter our jealousies. It's, it's all about God. And if it, if it's all about God, And everything is always exactly as it needs to be. If you had one statement, and I'm thinking of one to define your life thus far, would you describe it as this? Because of his grace. Yeah, I'd for sure say that. Yeah. Creston, how can people get in contact with you? If somebody's in the Hialeah area and they want to visit the congregation or maybe figure out how to get a hold of you or see where you've got content out there for them to listen to lessons. How can people get in touch if they want to know about Jesus through you? Currently, the best way to reach out to us is if you go to our Facebook page. It's the Hialeah Church of Christ, H-I-A-L-E-A-H, Church of Christ on Facebook. We have a Facebook page that has a lot of our, well, we have all of our Bible studies, all of our Sunday morning worships are on there. Our Wednesday evening Bible studies are live streamed on there too. So you can find all those things. And then we have contact information as well. Somebody could send me an email. Creston F-C-R-E-S-T-O-N-F at Balsam. South.net. And I'm happy to respond to any of those. And if you want to get my phone number, you know, just send me an email. Let me know you need my phone number and I'll give it to you. Sounds good. And we can talk. Appreciate it, man. Thank you for sharing as much as you did. It's been a good, good conversation with you. I got to learn a lot and I got to be encouraged by a lot of what you said. Just as a young minister myself, there's a lot of relatability there. And that's what I was hoping for. I hope that everybody that shares their journey can help others relate to them as well. Thank you, man. Is there anything else you want to say to anybody? Just say if anybody that had an influence on me growing up is listening or any of our teachers or whatever, our teachers, because you had some of the same ones I did, then I appreciate everybody that was involved or has been involved in my life. God is a great God. I think that's all that needs to be said. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, thank you for joining us again on Journey with Jesus. I'm your host and author, Johnny Singh. We're so grateful that Creston Frizzell was able to share with us his journey with Jesus. And we hope to see you next time when we get to. have other discussions with other beautiful people in Christ. See you next time.