"You're DISGUSTING!" Iran War Debate, Michigan Race + Enes Kanter Freedom On WNBA Row

Why is the media so biased that they won't ask Mike Rogers a single tough question? But all the record viewers, all of your assay, he's so Muslim, he's so Muslim, we should hate him because he's Muslim. Well, I'm sorry, I'm going to talk about Mike Rogers. Hang on, I do, I do, I do. The mid-semulations could affect the end of the second Trump presidency, condemning the US to two years of gridlock, and probable impeachment. That's why Republicans want to make the whole election about one guy, Michigan, and his friendship with Hassan Piker. The reality is that voters will be a lot more worried about the Iran War, at least his economic consequences. US air strikes have reportedly killed four people and injured 50 at a wedding overnight. Iran is calling it a war crime. The same chief negotiator who sat with JD Vance a few months ago, now says, quote, "If a power acts like Satan, picks targets like Satan, and kills like Satan, it's Satan." Well, for all the current talk of economic collapse in Iran, that doesn't sound like deal-making talk. In fact, Iran is now bombing US targets across the Middle East, and two oil tankers have reportedly hit mines in the Strait of Hormuz. A three-week war, which has been declared over and one more than 200 times now by President Trump, is now entering his seventh month. It also happens to be the most unpopular war in US history. Trump posted yesterday that Iran's leadership is in total disarray and incapable of properly representing the country. Well, don't be surprised if Iran's propaganda is saying the exact same thing about him. Do you want to meet your discuss this? Glenn Greenwald, host of System Update. Check Yuga, the founder and CEO of the Young Turks. Julia Michaels, host of Keeping It Real, and Ronan McDaniel, the Republican strategist and former RNC chair. Well, a stellar panel to debate a lot going on here. Check, welcome back to Uncensored. Always good to start with you in a calm, measured way. You look very calm or measured. So this is a good start to proceedings. Um, this war, where are we with this war? Because it seems to me we're now into the very kind of log jam, quagmire, never-ending war that Donald Trump always said, categorically, he was not interested in pursuing, if he was president. Yeah, we're in a state of disaster. So you're absolutely right, they said it would only take four to five weeks. We're now six months in, and now we've restarted a full-scale war. And so every once in a while, we get outraged that Iran is trying to block ships in the Strait of Hormuz by planting sea mines, etc. Yeah, they want to close the Strait of Hormuz, that's the only point of leverage. And so they're going to keep doing that till the end of time. Scott Besson and Donald Trump live in fantasy land, where they keep telling us we've already won and the war is over. Trump even put out a mission accomplished video the other day. So my guess is economic catastrophe is next. And the markets have kept this together with duct tape and glue, pretending that there is no war and the price of oil isn't going to be affected. But now all of that mirage is pretty much gone. So yeah, Trump and the Republican Party signed up for this war. And of course we know why for Israel, because they got paid by the Israeli lobby to do it. 80% of the countries against it, and they dragged us into this war. Now for the third time, and this economic bluff is also a preposterous. Well, we're going to take everybody off the dollar that would hurt us more than it would hurt anyone else. So Trump keeps punching himself in the face and keeps punching America in the face all on behalf of Israel. When all of this goes terribly tail-barong as it already has, remember, none of us Americans actually wanted this war. The only people who wanted this war were the Israelis. OK, Julian Michaels, welcome back to Uncensored to you. There's another way of looking at this, which is, yes, the initial predictions, it would all be over very quickly, clearly have not happened. Clearly the IRGC has not collapsed. Clearly the regime hasn't collapsed. And clearly the Strait of Hormuz has been used as an extremely effective tool of leverage by the Iranians. All of those things are true. But Brett McCurk, who's a former senior national security advisor for Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden, published a very interesting analysis for CNN. Entitled, "Noiran is not winning. In Act 4 of the war, it's losing its leverage in Hormuz." And you said of the US action since mid-July, the results being an effective blockade on Iranian oil shipments, with global shipments recovering, and energy prices remaining remarking to be stable. Bloomberg reported this week that oil flows through the Strait have recovered to two-thirds of pre-war levels. That means pressure is now compounding on Iran and not the US. And if Iran loses its ability to hold the Strait hostage, its leverage dissipates rapidly. Now you yourself called this scenario a few months ago on X, when you said while the world was distracted by ceasefire headlines, a secret geopolitical chess move by the US and Iran completely stripped Iran of its ultimate leverage in the Strait of Hormuz, effectively trapping them in a corner with nowhere left to turn. So look, there is a school of thought here that it's still early in a war, six months, seven months or so. And that actually, yes, the way that it's being conducted has had to be adapted, and I'm playing devil's advocate here, but that actually the economic pressures now being applied could be the way that ultimately the Americans and Israelis prevail here. Your thoughts? I think it would be the only way they prevail. If, in fact, they do prevail, I was hopeful initially that this would be over quickly. And it hasn't obviously resolved in that manner. You know, we're still, we're now months into it, as you just mentioned. It is very unpopular. If I was to push back against Jank, I would say that I do believe Iran is an existential threat. And I know he doesn't. I know I don't believe Glenda's. I think that they are. I've heard Marco Rubio very convincingly explain that if we had let this go, Iran would have been able to amass enough missiles that we would have had zero influence or ability to stop them from creating a nuclear weapon. So can you bring me to a place where the conversation is either acted now, or they ended up with a nuke and God knows where that would bring us down the road? Maybe, but there's no question that we're in a tough situation. It's wildly unpopular. It's going to hurt Trump in the midterms. And it remains to be seen if this is going to work out or not. I mean, pretty defeats his language there by Jillian Glenn. Well, yeah, I'm going to bring Glenn in. I'm just trying to be honest with you. 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And that the constant economic pressure could ultimately force Iran to the table sooner rather later. What do you think of that? I mean, it just strikes me that sometimes I think we lose sight of how absurd all of these rationales are. The, you know, Julian started by saying, oh, I thought the war was going to be a lot shorter than it ended up being, you know, with respect, like how many times are people going to fall for that? You know, we were told that we would be able to take out Saddam and, and, and putting the government that we wanted and achieve our objectives in Iraq and minute maximum two to three months. Rumsfeld once said, maybe six months out the outside, and 10 years later, we were still there. Same in Afghanistan, it's easy to take out the Taliban. We were there for 20 years. We left and the Taliban marched right in as if not a bit ever happened. How many times are we going to fall for the same propaganda? Same with the idea that Iran is an existential threat through the United States. This is all the same stuff we heard about Iraq. They're on the market for nuclear weapons. They're building WMDs. They're an existential threat. They're terrorizing their own people. We're going to liberate it. It's the same plate book over and over. It never works. So now you have this alternative theory that never existed at the start of the war. There was never any war. goal and let's see if it's at the start of the war that we were going to create an alternative channel in the Strait of Hormuz to take out Iran's leverage. This was never mentioned as a war aim. This is something that desperate people do when they're hoping to grab something in the dark that justifies this incredibly dangerous war that they started for no real clear reason. The reality is we didn't need to remove the leverage of Iran with the Strait of Hormuz when this war started because the Strait of Hormuz had always been open. So we have now like a war that has to go on. People have to die. We have to spend enormous sums of money. We have to further deplete our stockpiles, which are already depleted, ruin our credibility on the world stage to solve a problem that never existed until the war started in the first place that the war itself created. And I just want to add one last point, which is, yes, there is leverage that you did that Iran has for the Strait of Hormuz, but it is not the only leverage. It's not even the most significant leverage that they have. The most significant leverage that they have is that they have proven they can easily destroy huge amounts of energy infrastructure in what we call our Persian gold ally states, which are actually dictatorships. And they have been imposing and continued to impose large-scale damage on American military bases throughout the region. We don't hear much about it because those military bases are in dictatorships, which are our allies, and they don't permit much news to get out about it. But we know for certain that serious damage has been inflicted, probably deaths in American service members over the last couple of days, on these bases in the Middle East. And if they really wanted to, they could destroy the energy infrastructure on which the world depends in the Middle East. And then you would see real-scale genuine economic collapse with oil reserves depleting and the like. We're playing a very dangerous game. And for what? Yeah, I mean, I think the full what is a really interesting question because Ronald McDaniel, welcome back to you. You know, it seems to me that there's a massive economic problem here for President Trump because of the pressure that Iran's applied through the straightforward moves on 20% of the world's energy. That has clearly had a very, very bad effect on global economy, on the American economy, on cost of living, on the cost of energy, and so on. That's obvious. But there's a ticking clock here of a political nuclear weapon against Donald Trump, which is the midterm elections, which come in just two months time. And because of these economic issues which people are suffering, I would say it's more likely than not, and still two months, but let's assume things don't change before them because why would they? Why would the Iranians do a deal before the midterms knowing how much leverage they have? So, let's assume we get to two months' time and it's still raging away unresolved, and prices are still the same as they are. The Republicans are more likely than not to lose control of Congress, of both the House, I think, and the Senate, as things stand. And if that happens, we all know what that means. You know, where the Donald Trump wants to admit it to himself or not, he becomes a lame duck president. Is it likely he'd be immediately impeached? Very certainly, I would think, because of the form that the Democrats have with impeachment and Trump. So, he's got two months to try and fix this, really, both economically and, of course, cascading politically. This is all meshed into one big thing. You know, I said on the first week of this war that I really was concerned this was going to become the great sort of damacles for Trump, that it would become a legacy-defining thing. If he wasn't very careful, this could end up defining his entire presidency. What do you feel? Well, there's a lot to unpack there. I mean, first of all, I agree with you. I don't think Iran has any reason to try and resolve this before the midterms. I think they've stated we're not going to do this. They want to see what happens in the midterms. And they've also played the long game for a long time and had sanctions, and this is something that they're dug in on. I'm really glad that Trump hasn't caved, and he has said we are not going to allow a nuclear capable Iran. And I think especially after this war, we do not want to leave this undone and allow Iran to continue to pursue nuclear weapons. That would be bad for the country. It would be bad for the world. And President Trump has stood his ground. And he has said, I am not budging on this issue. Even with the problem is, the Iranians are budging either. They've still got all their enriched uranium, right? They've still got a lot of ballistic missiles. Still as Glenn said, firing off rockets left, right in the center of the state, neighboring state. They still control Australia for news. You know, I don't see how Trump is any nearer to stopping Iran's nuclear aspirations as he sees it. But he's doing the right thing. He's doing the right thing and saying, we're not going to let you become nuclear capable. He's going to stop it. He's going to continue to put pressure and it'll get bigger and bigger. You're seeing him now doing strikes. We will see how that plays out. But what President Trump isn't doing is saying, I'm going to fold because of the midterms and say because of what you're saying or others are saying that this might create some political pressure. I'm going to walk away from the core goal of this, which was to make sure we don't have a nuclear capable Iran. Now, I will disagree with you that the midterms look terrible. I think the Senate, I think the Republicans keep the Senate. I do not think they're going to win in Texas or Alaska. I think these are states that they're they're praying that they're going to win. Susan Collins is going to hold strong and made. Yes, I think the Senate stays in the Republican hands based on the map. We don't know about the House. But again, the midterms are not going to come down just to this war. When we're talking to voters in my state of Michigan, economics and affordability are the big issues. And you know who's been in control of our state for eight years? Democrats. Democrats have been in control of our state. And a lot of the hopelessness in our state comes from our high insurance rates, our inability to afford homes, our highest auto rates, the fact that two thirds out of the fourth graders in this state can't read. And that falls squarely on the Democrat. So it's going to become a state-by-state candidate by candidate issue as we had in the midterms. And Trump's team has done a very good job on the redistricting and really putting Republicans in a place where they can win races that they weren't expected to in this upcoming midterm. Okay, so quick question appears. So quick question appears about that that punditry. So on it, you're saying that your understanding of American politics is that when people are suffering economically, it benefits the party that's in control of the White House, the Senate, and the House in Washington. That's good for the Republican. I'm saying in my state of Michigan, where Democrats have had control for eight years. And two thirds of the fourth graders can't even read in this state. And our auto insurance is the highest ever, and our property taxes are the truth of the room. And we're 45th out of all the states. Democrats are going to take blame here. That is, this is there. Almost all the red states are at the very bottom. Michigan. Michigan. Michigan. Michigan. Michigan just voted for a Democratic Senator two years ago against the same Republican nominee that you have now. I've never heard that. When Trump won that good for the party in power. Michigan after eight years of. Michigan after eight years of party in power, usually, which is party. Let's try to let's let's let's let's try not to talk over. You don't know our state. Let's try not to talk. Well, let's talk about your state, because it's actually very interesting. I want to bring let's bring a check back in here, because we've got the 25th anniversary of 9/11 upon us very soon. And the Michigan Senate race is getting closer by the day. And of the backdrop of all this, we have this story about CBS running a story about all social media posts from Abdul Assad entitled for Michigan Democrat, Abdul Assad September 11th commemoration in bite scrutiny of past remarks. And it pointed to two deleted tweets. If those you haven't seen these, I want to just read them because I think it's relevant to the debate we're going to have. In the first from 2020, Assad compared the lives lost during the pandemic to the lives lost on September 11th. He wrote 3,000 dead on 9/11 meant everything 200,000 dead of COVID-19 means nothing. In the second, he compared 9/11 with America's wars. He said, today, I mourn the 3000 lives, 6000 injuries and infrastructural devastation in New York perpetuated ignorantly in the name of my faith. Tomorrow, I'll mourn a million lives, millions of injuries and infrastructural devastation in three countries perpetuated ignorantly in the name of my country. Now, it seems to me, Cheng, it's been an added complication to this in terms of the story, which is that apparently the new CBS News Chief Barry Weiss may have interfered with this by making sure the headline for the story by CBS referenced 9/11. And outside himself responded to all this by saying this. We've noticed that there are some resurface points on 9/11. And I was wondering if it's making it challenging to reach more Republican or more moderate voters in this race. Well, I mean, all of us look back and say, "I don't know if others are often a thing that happened in this country." And I think all of us also look back and say, "Think about all the wars that were fought." And how much safer do we feel like they made us? How many lives did they ruin? And my point is just to say that what happened on 9/11 is a disaster. It was a terrible attack on our country. And our responsibility is also to think about how do we build an America, where we are protecting our servicemen and women, because it asks to fight the wars we have no business fighting, that ultimately end up doing harm to Hitch. And we're saying that right now. Now, look, I mean, I think outside it's a very smooth operator, Cheng. I think he's an effective communicator. There's no doubt about that. He's clearly being targeted heavily. by Republicans, because they see him as a threat and they've brought in your nephew, has some pygros, a stick to beat him and will come to that as well. But on this specific story, the most significant part of this to me is not where the Barry White said focus on 9/11, because she runs the news from it. If she wants to do that, I don't have a problem with that. And he did equivocate between 9/11 several times and other stuff. And by doing that, that would be a controversial thing to do, particularly to New Yorkers, but I think to most Americans, they would go, you know what, just keep these things separate. Would be my observation from here. But the interesting thing to me, check, is he deleted these tweets. So something in him knew, well, he did delete them, and that's a fact. So to me, the significance-- No, you're totally misrepresenting it. You're falling into Barry White's trap. Well, he didn't delete it. So let me explain what happened. So he deleted all of his tweets before 2023. This happened to be in the batch. He didn't go and find these tweets and delete them. There's nothing wrong with these tweets at all. They're perfectly benign. And Barry White demanded that his name and 9/11 be in the title, because she's a bigot. And she wanted to smear him because he's Muslim. To be fair to her, her boss is demanded. David Ellison and Larry Ellison are enormous bigots who spread hatred against Muslims and against any Americans who defy Israel. That's why Barry White's was hired to smear Muslims or any American that criticizes Israel. And she's doing her job now. But to be fair to Barry White's CBS, all of mainstream media spreads hatred against all Muslims. And if you dare criticize Israel, they'll take your head off. So look at the disparity here. So literally, everyone in media is attacking Abdul al-Said. The Democrats are attacking Abdul al-Said. The Republicans are attacking Abdul al-Said. Why? Because the uniparty and the establishment loves Israel. And they know that he's not going to back Israel. And Mike Rogers, on the other hand, has been pushing for Israel's war for the last 20 years against Iran. Starting in 2006, he told the same exact lies as Benjamin Netanyahu about how Iran was weeks away from having a nuke. Iran is about to have a nuke. And we're still having that conversation 20 fricking years later. Why? Mike Rogers has worked for Israel for the last 20 years. Why is no one asking him to denounce Benjamin Netanyahu, the murderer of 23,000 children? We're talking about what a streamer said. Netanyahu said that Israel should have the land from the river to the sea. And then he actually started doing it. He started quoting Amalek about killing all the men, women, and children, and Gaza. He's a genocide, a monster. So why doesn't someone ask Mike Rogers to denounce Benjamin Netanyahu? Why do we have this absurd, preposterous, bigoted media that always attacks Israel's critics? And any American that dares to fire Israel, they call an anti-Semite? I look at this point, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, etc. are much kinder to Muslims and care about equality than mainstream media. Mainstream media is a million times more bigoted than Tucker Carlson. All they ever do is attack Muslim candidates over and over again, all for their beloved Israel. So since there are almost no defenders of Abdul Al-Sahid in media, I'm going to declare myself an unsanctioned surrogate for Abdul. And I will take on anyone. I will debate anyone on this Michigan Senate race. Mike Rogers has worked for Israel for 20 years, trying to drive us into this disastrous war for 20 years. He also, by the way, takes money from telecommunication companies. Big pharma. He believes in unspying on you. After Stone, he wonders spying on Americans even more. He's in favor of the surveillance state. No one asks him any of these questions. But all they ever do is all Abdul Al-Sahid, he's so Muslim. He's so Muslim. We should hate him because he's Muslim. That's all this press ever does. And I'm ready to defend Abdul Al-Sahid. Go ahead, Ron. Give me your BS and let me kill it. Let me destroy your nonsense talking points. Go ahead. You're so vitriolic. Can we just have a conversation? And it's not fair to say that people who disagree with Abdul Al-Sahid. Yeah, I don't like our country being dragged into one. 18 Americans are dead because of your beloved Israel. That's why I'm vitriol. 9/11. I don't like people saying I hate American. Nobody thinks that. We deserve 9/11. Yeah, you're nephew said that. We love America. We love America so much. We want to represent America instead of Israel. We want to be sure that these powers being blown up behind him because he loves America. Okay, let me stop you there. Let me play a little mash-up. Of your nephew, Shane. Hasn't bike it. And the controversial things he said about it. Here we go. Here we go back to-- Well, I'm just sorry. I'm going to talk about mic Rogers. I don't-- I do this. I do. You don't want to talk about the sun. Is he coming out? He's coming back to Michigan. I do think he's ready to do this. I don't want to be anywhere near him. Hang on, yeah. My God, please. Hang on, please. He's going to betray you. All right, let me live in Michigan. Do not let Israel buy that city. If I may, just get a word in-- If I may get a word in, I want to play-- Oh, let me guess. Hosea and Pryker. No, I want it. He was so predictable. I would like to use to know-- I would love to. Please don't be a big hit. Don't be a comedy hit. Please, guys. Thank you. Oh, I just did. What are you going to do about it? A big hit. Who are you calling the big hit, mate? You're disgusting. You're disgusting. I saw him. Let me play. Let me play. You're disgusting for working for Israel. Let me play it against America. I have a word for Israel. Please, can I please take control back of this panel? Is it OK, everybody? I want to play a little mashup of what Hassan said, which is what you referenced at Rona. So the view is watching. Understand what you're talking about. Let's take a look. God damn it, I hate America so much. We are the bad guys. We are the bad guys. Why do I hate America? Because I recognize accurate history. Oh, God, I hate America so much. God, I hate America so fucking much. Sometimes it's like so stupid, dude. God, I hate America so much. Bro, I hate this country, dude. I hate America so fucking much, dude. Oh, God, I just, I hate America so much. Now, he seems pretty clear of that shank. Unless he think he's being misquoted. Yeah. Yeah, I don't care. He's not running. He's not running for Senate and Michigan. And he's not anywhere near as connected to a candidate. As Mike Rogers, by the way, has someone that was a part of that neo-Nazi chat in the young Republicans, a guy who defends him. You got a donor who said anti-Semitic things, but nobody ever questions Mike Rogers, because you guys all want to smear Abdul al-Sahid. All right. Let me bring him into a streamer. So what? Let me bring in Jim. I'm connected to Abdul. I just declared myself an unsanctioned surgeon. I love America. All I want is our representatives to serve America. Okay. Let me bring in Jim or in country. You know who hates America, sell out traders like Mike Rogers who work for a different country and try to drag us into their way. You've made that move. Decade after decade. No, here's, can everyone on the panel agree that Mike Rogers has been trying to drag us into Israel's war for the last 20 years, and that is much more relevant to anything a streamer says. It's a shame. It's a shame. Because that actually gets you got 18 Americans killed. All right. That's a shame. Some of them are injured. That's a shame. What is Israel and Mike Rogers going to give us a hundred billion back? Check. Let the other speak. Now, Jillian, you'd be waiting very patiently. Your face. Your face has been contorting into positions where I'm worried it may never recover. So over to you. Listen. Here's the thing. I do think I disagree with Glenn. I think that Iran is an existential threat. I think that numerous administrations previously have acknowledged that. I think they are the top funder of terror proxies. I think they have missiles that we now know can hit Europe against Israel, who cares. They have said death to America, and I'm pretty sure that's not business. That's not a business. Well, when they say death to America, it kind of is our business chunk, like it kind of matters to me. No, no, only because we support Israel. Do you know that? Do you even know that? I don't. I don't agree with you. It's because we support Israel. All right. Let Jillian speak. And then I think if the conversation becomes, well, we had it under control with the GCPOA, I don't actually think that we did, and we could get into that absolutely. Okay. Can we move on back to Michigan, though, Jillian? Well, the reason I come back to Michigan is because I do think it's relevant. This whole issue. I understand. The reason. The reason he is now being targeted by the Republicans relentlessly, and they're bringing Hassan Pikey into it relentlessly, and I do think it's obvious why they're doing this. And there's an attempt to try and draw him into this whole September 11th, 25th anniversary debate by saying this is a guy who tried to equivocate about it, and that's an arguable point. And that Hassan Pikey, one of his supporters is somebody who's repeatedly says, you know, he hates America. This is the story that's running. What is your, do you think it's valid? Do you think it'll work? I mean, is there a danger of the strategy? It doesn't work. I do agree that it's a bigoted strategy. All right, let Jillian talk. I don't agree with you, Jenk. The fact that you. How come they never ask Mike Rogers a question? Let Jillian ask him a question about his question. Jenk. Listen, I appreciate that. This is on us, your nephew. But when you excuse rape. I am not so easy about his son. I don't care about his son. I care about the Michigan Senate race. I understand. I understand. - I understand. - Then it's in the middle of the year. - America is not in America. - America is in America. >> Israel is America's new representative. >> The giant look who he is utilizing as a campaign tool. >> Who's my graduate utilizing Benjamin Netanyahu? Who's Benjamin Netanyahu utilizing? >> I want to give you this far more extreme to hang out with a guy that justifies rape, says Jews better fall in line and not support each other. >> Are you kidding me? That's not even remotely true. And second of all, you know what's extreme hanging out with a guy who murdered 23,000 children. If you do now, Benjamin Netanyahu was murdered 23,000 children in Gaza. >> It's a simple question. Do you now some page? Okay. >> He denounced Netanyahu. He murdered 23,000 kids. It's not a hard question. >> I think that's terrible. I think what's going on in the Middle East is terrible. I have said that. I will continue to say that. I am against attacks on Jews over it, on innocent Jewish people. And I am seeing a lot of that like- >> And no one's doing that. You're not just said. If you're a Jew and you support Israel, you better look out. You're the one making anti-Semitism worse, pretty dangerous position. That's a threat. >> You know who else said that? As her client said that. Dana Bash said that. Haley Steven said that. Yeah, when you have radical Zionist claiming that all Jews are responsible for the genocide, it endangers other innocent Jewish people. >> Let me ask you that. >> I don't want to ask. >> Okay, listen. >> I want to ask Jillian. >> I don't want to ask Jillian, Jillian, Jillian, Jillian, Jillian, I want to ask Jillian a straightforward question about Abdullah's side, right? Is it fair and reasonable, given that he deleted these tweets along with many others as Cheng says? But is it fair and reasonable to associate him in the way the Republicans and CBS to a degree have done here with 9/11 in a smear tactic manner? Is it fair, is it the right thing to do? >> It is my personal opinion that he was making the statement of, well, my government is engaged in these wars and all these people have died. You're suggesting this is what you get? That's absolutely what I took away from it. Now, if that offends you and you don't want a US senator to hold that position, then don't vote for him. I think that's fair. I think that's what he was saying. I think that there are a host of other affiliations that our evidence of his opinion being exactly that. You know, when your half sister takes to the internet to give October 7th blessings, when the Muslim Brotherhood puts you on their home page, when your father-in-law is holding positions of power in organizations that are a co-conspirate, unindicted co-conspirators of the Holy Land Terrifying Asking Trial, it's alarming. Sorry, it makes me a bigot. I don't. >> It's nonsense. >> Okay, what do you think they do? >> Let me bring you back. >> I want to speak. >> I want to speak. >> I want to let you back. >> You're being supported by radicals. >> Let me back. of that, the old Douglas Murray Church of, have you been there? We don't have to be in Michigan to know what the polling indicates about the concerns of the voters of Michigan. And they're concerned about affordability. They're concerned about prices. Trump has done nothing about that. Mike Rogers promises to do nothing about that other than follow Donald Trump. And he says gas prices are not that big a deal. It's more important that we have this war that he's been pushing for for 20 years. You mentioned how who Abdul brought him to the race. Well, Mike Rogers has brought the Israeli lobby into Michigan for the last 20 years. He's taken money from them over and over and over again. And he's always represented Israel instead of America in Michigan. And it makes no sense for anybody in Michigan. >> Well, the truth is, it's in the right time. >> In the right time. >> Bolivia or-- >> I do want to move on to something else, but it makes no sense. >> I get it, too. >> And let me ask you this, Pierce. >> Yeah. >> And I'm asking, it Pierce. >> The only one that I'm asking, isn't it obvious? Can we acknowledge? Can we acknowledge? Can we all acknowledge that the media has been ridiculously biased, that they're the least subjective, the most biased people in the whole country, because they refuse to ask Mike Rogers a single tough question. They refuse to ask him to denounce Benjamin Netanyahu, the butcher of Gaza, who's murdered 23,000 children. They've refused to ask him about his own staffers that were justifying neo-Nazis. So, obviously, they don't care about anti-Semitism. All they do is hide behind Jewish-Americans, 63% of people-- >> And it may be, all right, but check, check, check. >> Let me put it in a duel, so you're not Mike Rogers. >> I hate you. >> So, isn't it true that the press is purposely trying to spear up to all-- >> Well, let me say-- >> All of them collectively-- >> I would say. >> And that they haven't locked-- >> Hang on, please. >> He's a glove on Mike Rogers. >> Let me see you. >> Let me see you. >> Let me see you. >> Let me ask you, which is, I think the proof is in the pudding, as we say, on the side of the pond, because Polymarket, who've actually been more accurate in a lot of polls in the last couple of years, have, outside at 65% predicted to win. Rogers at 35%. And I do think that Glenn was onto something, which is probably most people in Michigan care a lot more about the core issues affecting their lives than they do a lot about a lot of this stuff. And they also, I suspect, may react to an over demonization of somebody who they see on TV every day and don't think he's that person. Same way that Trump, when the left kept calling him an Nazi, it just backfired because they were like, "Well, he's not Hitler, so why don't you keep telling him he's an Nazi?" >> Same with Zoran, whenever calling him Michael Sama bin Laden, and people are looking at this smiling, nice guy. >> Right. >> And it didn't work with Trump because they didn't see him as Hitler, they didn't work with Zoran, and I don't think you can turn-- >> I completely agree. >> I think that's a really-- >> I do think that's a really interesting, but I think the over demonization of a lot of these political figures, it just backfires, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if I'll say it wins. And if he does, it will be because they tried to throw the wrong kitchen sink at it. Pick him off on his policies, but don't try and make him out to be something to do. >> So you're agreeing with me, right, that the media is over demonizing him, and they are working collectively, and they do appear to be biased in favor of my privacy. >> I would agree with you about this. >> I do think-- >> I do think-- >> But all of my ideas up do a lot. >> Well, let me answer you. I do think the outside has been-- I do think-- I'll say it's been-- well, let me try and answer you. If I may answer, which is I think, I'll say it has been subjected to a more venomous interrogation about Hassan Piker that Mike Rogers has about his unequivocal endorsement of everything this current Israeli government is doing, which in many people's eyes, a lot of it is disgraceful, and we see more and more of that every day. So I do think there's absolutely a clear gap between the way that Rogers is being dealt with about his blind allegiance to Israel and this government in particular, and the way that I think, I'll say, he's been treated in relation to Hassan Piker, anyway. >> I want to move on-- I want to move-- I'll say it, but I want to move on to something else, but quickly. >> He is saying he's for EV mandates. He is saying that he wants to have cashless bail. These are things that he's saying. These are his policies. When a terrorist attack happened in Michigan to attack 140 kids at a Jewish synagogue, he said, hurt people, hurt people. He didn't condemn it. This is al-Sayed. This isn't any surrogate. >> He did condemn it, please stop lying. >> And he also said that-- >> He deadly condemned it. >> Then he's going to raise taxes on every single misogender, middle working class. >> Right, so I say pick him off on that stuff. >> He's medicare. >> No, so I say, I would say, forget about Hassan Piker and pick him off on the stuff you're talking about. >> Take him off on policy. >> Anyway, look, I want to just switch-- >> Yeah, and by the way, I want to switch-- >> I want to switch, I want to switch. >> Before you try, we can't negotiate drug prices. >> Okay, yeah, but he's taking hundreds of $1,000 from Big Pharma. Everybody join me. Defend Abdul, let's go. Unofficial surrogates assemble the Avengers because no one else in media is going to do it. Media is disgustingly biased. >> Okay, you made your point. >> Hate all Muslim Americans. >> You made your point. >> That's for sure. >> You made your point, but I do want to lose the panel. >> He's for America. >> I want to ask a panel about an interview we did yesterday, which I did with Milo Ianopolis, which has gone very viral, and you've probably seen the clips. But if you haven't, I want to play one clip in particular, which has had millions of views on social media, where he said this. There you are aggressively promoting ice being very aggressive, and demanding that millions of people be deported. People say Milo, you've been hoisted by your own pertard. And I don't have a word to say you got me. I'm very -- look, I'm going to do what you're told to do. Deported millions of people. >> I'm not really. >> Does this happen to include you? >> You're not doing it lawfully. >> You did say about Somalis. They should be deported indiscriminately. >> Well, we're obviously exaggerating. >> Deporting them, obviously exaggerating. There I think another tweet. I said something like we shouldn't let the 97% of Somalis create a bad reputation for the law abiding 3%. I tell all kinds of -- >> The point is that I would say the place is supposed to be deporting criminals. >> They're supposed to be prioritizing who come in illegally. >> I know. >> Who sell people, who murder, who rape, and who sell people. >> I get this. >> I know not doing that. >> I get it. The problem you have, I think in these tweets and public statements, is that you weren't singling out Somali criminals, for example, or just criminals. You wanted Somalis as a group. All deported, you said that. >> Yeah, but you said that. >> I was -- look, when the -- >> Not tonight saying it. Of course not. So what was interesting to me, and let me start with you, Glenn, on this, is that he talked initially about how awful his experience was at being arrested by ICE and how he'd been mistreated and so on and so on. And then claimed it was unlawful because he has a green card. I don't know the truth about all that, we'll have to find out. But a lot of people pointed out, well, he showed an absolute zero empathy for anybody else who was being rounded up by. I see, in fact, he wanted millions more to be rounded up. He wanted whole populists like all the Somalis to be rounded up and deported criminal or otherwise. And as social media has rightly, I think, beat up, he just exposed himself as a massive hypocrite. You know, he cared about the way ICE treated detainees when he became one. And he changed his view of mass deportation. The moment it rounded him up, along with all the other people he wanted kicked out. What did you make of this? >> Yeah, I mean, he has tweets where he not only talked about how he finds the mass deportation sexually arousing, but even he had said that you should give absolute immunity to ICE, meaning they can do any abuse and not be held accountable, and then started going on your show and literally whining and crying about the abuse that he suffered. And I, you know, there are cases where people are very indifferent to the suffering of others. And then suddenly when they encounter it, they have a real transformation, like a lot of conservatives who are very tough and law in order to lock them up for 30 years, and going to prison, they get out and they become advocates for prison reform and justice reform. And there's a lot of deep transformation there that I can find commendable. But in this case, you know, this is just the worst human trait being exhibited. And let's face it, Milo is one of the most despicable people in all politics. I think most people would agree with that. Where you basically are somebody who is incapable of empathy for the suffering of other people and only care about injustice is one of the effects you personally. This isn't some deep transformation. This is just somebody hoisted on their own pertardent. And it makes me, it makes it very difficult to feel sorry from the one point of the story that I think is worth noting, however, is that there is almost no doubt that the reason he was deported was because Laura Lumer didn't like him. And he had criticized Laura Lumer. And this is a woman who has probably more influence in the Trump administration than any outside person has ever had within the Oval Office because of Trump's infatuation with her. And this goes back to our other segment. Laura Lumer is somebody infinitely more powerful and relevant than Hassan Piker and who spews the most insane amounts of racism and bigotry on a daily basis that 95% of Americans would find absolutely revolting. Why aren't Republicans and Trump held accountable for her given how much power they've given her? And I think there, you know, I think that's a very relevant question. Chink, I mean, you know, notwithstanding he may be the worst person to be passing on this information. But what's the stuff that Milo, you know, Paulus came out with about the way he was treated, about the way he was rounded up, about the fact that he maintains it wasn't a visa renewal issue. He has a green card because he married. He doesn't appear to lie. Well, okay, I'm just saying, well, that is a lie. I'm just saying, okay, well, let me start with you then, Julian. So, that is a lie, that is a lie. But what did he do? So he doesn't have a green card. Is that right? No, he was there. He was at the U.S. illegally. That is for sure. But is he married? Is that 100% right? But I'm understanding is he remains married to an American. American citizen, right? >> They are almost complete with their divorce, which began in January of 2025. They were married in 2017. He, I guess, denounced homosexuality sometime around 2021. And in the divorce court proceedings, he's very transparent about the fact that his ex will not help participate in getting him a new green card. And you get one, I guess, every two years. He didn't have a 10-year green card, so he was lying his face off to you about that. >> Okay, so I mean, honestly, I could probably add, it appears just quickly. Mahmoud Khalil is also married to an American citizen and has a green card. So it's not a guarantee you have to renew it. In that case, they revoked it from him, but it's not an impediment against being declared illegal and being deported if you don't maintain the requirements. >> Right, and I made it clear in the interview, when he came out with all that, I don't know. So I said, I can't challenge you about this, because I don't. I said, all I will say, Milo, is that whatever you say now in this interview, it can be verified, right? It will be verified. It will be leaked. We will find out exactly what he was saying on what was true and what wasn't. He said, his green card got cancelled, we don't know. But Jillian, in relation to what Glenn said there, where you can hate Milo and everything he stands for, are you concerned that it looks like the trigger for this was just that Laura Luma, who seems to wheel this extraordinary influence over Donald Trump, that it was because she didn't like him, because he used to work for him, they fell out or whatever. And that is a personal animus, has led to this guy being thrown out of the country. >> I would argue that he was here illegally and they deported him, regardless of his skin color, regardless of what country he is here from. This is a guy that has justified having sex with 13 year old boys. I am thrilled to see him leave the country. Period. >> Okay, Jen. >> Okay. >> I'm glad he's gone. >> Check, did you have any empathy with anything you said? >> So I can't stand Milo and we've, you know, attacked each other many, many times before. And on top of that, he represents Kanye West and I'm probably the biggest critic of Kanye West in the country, I sussed out that he was a moronic anti-Samite from day one, could stand people to call him a genius. So I got no love for Milo at all, not 1%. There's two interesting things that come out of this. One is, Glenn's right, like it's interesting to see him feeling like, oh my God, is this how people go, what people go through when they get detained by ice? Yeah, yeah, that's what they go through. And it's incredible that people, though, have no empathy until they go through it themselves. And I wish that they would develop some empathy for other people and other situations. Okay, but the most important part is what you and Glenn are focusing on, Pierce Witches. He was in the country illegally for years and years and years and nobody did anything about it until he criticized Israel and Laura Lumer pointed it out. And it's interesting that Mahmoud Haleel is on the left and Milo is on the right, but the one common thing that you get for getting kicked out of the country is criticizing Israel. So and now the media is totally mask off, Pierce, because they're all have done two billion stories about Hassan, and you're right to point out, are you kidding me, Laura Lumer can not only get anyone in the White House fired, but she can have anyone remove from the country and you're not going to ask about her unbelievably racist and bigoted things she said against black people and Muslims. By the way, also other Jews who don't agree with me. Well, I have to be fair, to be fair, Qing. I have arranged her many times about her comments to the extent that you should hang her anger Republicans, every Republican, including Rana, should have to answer for that. Well, I'm about to ask that. I was about to say, well hang on, Rana, I was about to say the reason Laura Lumer is not on this show today in the way that we asked her to be is because she wanted me to apologize to her for the critical remarks I've made about her previous comments. And I chose, as I did with Meghan Markle, as I did with Meghan Markle, I chose not to say the apology route. I chose not to say the apology route. Rana, final word to you on this. Well, final word to you. I mean, Laura Lumer. I don't know. Not much. She's attacked me a ton. So I mean, she attacks everybody and I'm a Mormon suburban woman. So I mean, I don't know what connections those make. I don't think so. You do now, sir. You do now strong for associating herself with her and letting her control the White House. I'm not even going to give her credit for that because I think you guys are giving her way too much credit because I do know Susie Wiles and Susie Wiles is very powerful and has a lot of control in the Trump White House and I don't think I think you guys are way over blowing Laura Lumer's influence and I don't believe it that she's the reason he's deported. Okay. I just don't believe that. Okay. He overstayed his visa. He was sent. I know. I'm telling you. We've got to run out. What I would say, what I would say, Rana, is I think it's very telling about her influence that so few Republicans go public in criticizing some of the outrageous things she says, including including, including by the way, this week where she said some disgusting things about black female politicians and I'd be waiting for Republicans to berate her for this. But they don't. What is she doing? They don't. They don't. I don't look at her. I don't look at her. I don't look at her. I don't look at her. The truth is. I don't look at her. She said she's a Shakita. She's a black bitch who speaks of monarchs. That's like the old writers. Maybe no brainer. But the truth about her influence is Republicans don't like. Republicans don't like holding to the same account they hold Hassan Piker for what he says. I do. I do. I do. I do. I have some Republicans. She has. Well, hang on. Unlike Hassan Piker. Unlike Hassan Piker. Unlike Hassan Piker. She has the ear of the president and she wields that influence and power in quite an alarming manner. And that's, I think it's the fact that no one goes after from the Republican side about stuff. She said, only this week is the telling revelation about how far her influence actually does extend. Anyway, we're going to leave it there. We're going to leave it. Mike's not bringing in Laura. We're going to leave it there. absolute grifter for supposedly protecting women. When it seems to me, you're protecting women's rights to fairness, equality, and safety. A lot better than Megan Rapinoe is doing it. I'm the tallest woman right activist in the world right now, probably. But to all these women out there, like, to all these people out there, this is not a right or left issue. Like this is a little bit common, says, I know that they think that I grift this side or DASA, it's really not. This is literally a common sense issue. And I'm following their rules. There is no rule against it. If they peers, I promise you, I'm not a difficult person to deal with. I'm not a troublemaker. I'm a peacemaker. If tomorrow, the WNB comes out and say, okay, everyone, we are adding the word biological next to the word woman in our collective bargaining. I will walk through the sunset and they will never hear from me ever again, right? But if they don't want to do that, then I am eligible to play because I can simply go out there and identify as a woman and compete in their league. And the thing is, all these coaches, all these players and everyone is cheering for it. And now finally, a man, right, wants to identify as a woman and they're he's getting hate on. I mean, who are they to judge? Who's his journey is real or not? You know, I want to go out there and I want to play basketball. If you bring any of the rule that against it, I will follow it immediately. Well, also, I'm cynical, frankly, about some of these transgender athletes. They've been sprinters in America at pretty high level. They've been swimmers, like Lea Thomas and others. And they've been pretty unsuccessful competing against their own sex. And then they switch and compete against women. And suddenly, they're on the national stage. They're making loads of money. They're getting lots of media coverage. And, you know, I talked to Martin, I have had a lot about this a lot. And she's very sensible about this. And she said, you know, if you're like the number 500 male tennis player in America and you're making, you know, $100,000 a year or something, whatever it may be, then the temptation, and we've seen the temptation with cheating, with doping and so on, but the temptation to just put your hand up and say, say, in women's basketball, well, there's nothing to stop it as you've exposed. And just say, look, I'm identifying as a woman and have two or three years of huge amounts of money and sponsors and all the stuff that comes with you being the biggest sensation in the game. Because, you know, somebody like you, if you competed against women at basketball, you would destroy them, right? Obviously, we all know this. And that's the bit that really guess is that the idea that this won't inevitably lead to somebody doing that just to make money and be famous is for the birds. This is why they did it when they cheated with doping. Right. So here's I already spoken with three European players, three gilly players and two former NBA players. And they have all said that if they don't change rules, we are ready to put our name in a WNBA draft in 2027. I mean, get this. So a gilly player, right, makes around $45,000 a year. At the top WNBA player makes around $1.4 million. So all you have to do, right? All you have to do is just simply identify himself as a woman and he will be making $1.4 million instead of $45,000. So the WNBA have no idea that what they are actually, what kind of fire that they're playing with. So I'm just very confused that I just don't want people to think that this is a right or left wing issue. When I have a conversation with Sophie kind of him, right? She said the same thing. This is not a right or left wing issue because they're calling her like a mega barbie or whatever. She said, this is literally a common sense. They're trying to put me her or anyone out there in a box. So the one side can hate us. But no, she is or whoever out there that joined this that woman, I guess, that is being cheered for over 73% of America, all these parents out there. So I'm just confused that I just hope that we can settle this down. Yeah, I mean, I just find it extraordinary in the way that you've been exposed to so much hatred. When it's obvious the point you're making, you're exposing a massive flaw in the way that women's basketball is set up in the rules and you're showing them what the problem is. And rather than actually sit down with you and say, you know what, you've got a very good point here. Let's work it out. They'd rather make you public enemy number one. And what really annoys me is people like Sophie Cunningham have been incredibly brave here by stating the bleeding obvious that they've been attacked and vilified and so on. Whereas people like Natasha Cloud, you know, for taking you on and attacking you and making a big sort of statement by doing so, she gets applauded even though what you're actually doing is trying to protect the integrity of women's fore. I really want to make it very clear, I am not anti-trans, I am not intelligent or anything, I'm just pro woman, right? And like people have no idea if they're okay with us coming to their league and actually destroy their league, like we're going to take their money away. We're going to take their respect away. We're going to take their endorsement bills away. We're going to take their playing time away. Look, at that point Pierce, why do we have two leagues? Why do we have men and women? Let's just merge two leagues because unfortunately the WNB loses are around 50 million dollar a year. So let's just merge two leagues, right? Let's just have one league and we can all compete together. So they have no idea what they are cheering for but unfortunately it's just the cancel culture Pierce. Many players, I have actually spoken with many NBA players. I'm like guys, why don't you guys go out there and speak about this issue? They said no, no, no, no. As soon as we touch this issue, we're going to lose endorsement bills. We might not even get another contract. This is a very dangerous topic. So many players in NBA and WNB as well, things the way that we think, but unfortunately they're never going to come out and say anything because of the cancel culture. Let me just impure cold hard reality. If you were to play in the WNBA, in an average game, how many points do you think you school? So we'll tremble and have this record. I'm sure you know about it is 100 points a game. I promise that is my goal to beat that record. Like there won't be any record standing. I will literally destroy it. I mean, actually it will help the WNBA because think about the all the ticket sales and endorsement bills that they could get. And then once I answer, right, all the other players, European players, G-League players are going to start putting their name on a draft and the whole league is going to be elevated immediately. So I'm not trying to hurt their league. I'm actually trying to help their league if they're okay with it. They could Kethi Engelberg, the commissioner, can end all these madness tomorrow by adding one word, the biological. And like I said, again, I can just walk through the sunset and she will never hear from me ever again. I'm just I'm very confused. I think, you know, 15, 20 years from now, the historian is going to look back in our time and laugh. Oh, they'll think we lost our minds. History will look back and say, wait a minute, there was a period of time when they let biological men compete in women's sport and beat them and getting boxing rings and beat them up and win medals that should have gone to women and take Olympic places. I mean, the case of Laurel Hubbard, the New Zealand weightlifter, who was a very mediocre competitor as a biological male in the men's category. And then at the age of 45, took a woman's place on the New Zealand weightlifting team twice the age of pretty much any other contestant in the Olympic Games as a woman and one gold medal. I mean, it's completely bloody ridiculous. And yet women are terrified for the reasons you articulated, I mean, men are as well, a lot of them. And I salute your courage in doing it. I do with Sophie Cunningham. I do with Riley Gaines and others. It needs moral courage to stand up to say this is bullshit and actually those who defend it and shame those who question it, they're the ones who are eroding women's rights. And so they're the anti-women people in this debate. And sadly, many are women themselves. I'm like, what's the matter with you? I mean, seriously, what is the matter with you? If you made the Olympics, gender neutral, how many women biological females would win a medal? And when the answer is one or two, in the entire Olympic Games, that is the inevitable consequence of this madness. If you allowed sport to be gender neutral, actual women would stop winning anything. Why is that a good thing? Yeah. You know, I actually really would like to hear their side as well. I mean, because I go out there, I go on a show and talk about it. I know, I mean, I watch your show a lot and you do a lot of, a lot of debates. I really would like to sit down with like a WNBA player or the commissioner, which I don't think she's going to take to offer. I really would like to sit down and hear their side of the story. Yeah. You know, but I'm really curious, I'm okay with sitting down with a formal WNBA player or whoever out there wants to debate me or have a conversation with me. I'm not saying that I'm the most educated when it comes to this topic, but I really would like to hear their side of the story. I don't, and I don't understand. I don't, you don't need to be that well educated. You're a man and you know the physical advantage you have over women. It's literally as simple as that. People can try and bring some antics into it and they can try and use the, well, your transphobic if you think that you've made it clear, you're not remotely trans, nor am I. I want trans people to have the same rights to fairness, equality and safety that you and I enjoy. And I want them to play sport. I just don't want them wrecking the integrity of women's sport. This should not be difficult. And it is moral cowardice by people like Megan Rapinoe and Natasha Cloud and all these others who virtue signal their way to the headlines by actually supporting something which attacks the integrity of their own sport. I find it incredible and I salute your courage in doing it. I know why you're doing it. I don't think it's a gimmick. I see people at Dave Portneau saying you're an absolute clown for making the issue about him. But you're not actually making it about you. What you're saying is, look, this is how mad this is. I could literally play in the WNBA. And if I did, I'd be immediately the greatest player in the history of a WNBA. I'd win all the records, all the competitions. I'd get all the money, all the endorsements, all the sponsorship. And it would obviously be as fair as Lance Armstrong and his team of cheating cyclists, winning all the cycling trophies by pumping themselves with illegal drugs. It's the same thing to me. It gives you an unfair advantage and therefore it shouldn't be allowed. And why we're debating it even is nuts to me. Because you know what, I'm a nice guy. I really want to like to hear Deaths out of the story. Like Megan Rapinoe or whoever out there, right? Sure, like let me come, we'll go on your show. And I would love to sit down. Like I really want to hear the hair out of the story and what she thinks of what her mindset is. Like because there are millions of kids out there, they're right, idolizing many athletes like Caitlin Clark, Sophie Cahnum or whoever, whatever sport is. Like it doesn't matter how much they work, what whatever they eat, however they sleep. If they think that at one point in my life I'm going to compete against the man, they will be crushed. And think about that to all these parents out there. Would you be okay with your daughter taking a shower in the same room as with me or the same go to bathroom or go to locker rooms in the same locker room as me? Like I have a 14 year old daughter. Would horrify me. I'm not going to leave. Not because I don't trust you or dislike you. It's just not right. It's why we have separate changes. Oh my lord. I think America needs to just check itself before it's too late. Like this is just, I want to make this very cool. This is not a right or left issue. This is just a common sense. And we have to be in a right side of the history. What reaction have you had? And it's from people in the street. The what? What reaction have you had from people in the street when you walk around? So, so depends on which state. I guess, I mean, it was Chicago. I was getting a lot of death threats. I mean, it's so interesting that even my, it went with my social media. I mean, we posted all the videos. Even with my social media, I get death threats like, but pretty much like once every hour. And they said, all I hate women. I am a misogynist. I'm anti-trans. I'm an anti-GP2Q shaman. I'm like, listen, I mean, I don't really respond any of it. But the thing is, here's like, this is God's work. And whatever the other than death, there's nothing can stop me. And nothing will stop me. Because I know if I ever, I don't have a kid, but if I had a kid, I wouldn't want my kids to be in the same locker room, same shower, same bathroom with a biological male. I would want my daughter to play against a male athlete at one point of her career. So for that reason, other than death, there's nothing going to stop me. You know, we had a situation in the UK in Scotland where the Scottish First Minister, so the top politician in Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, endorsed a policy where trans, people identifying as a trans woman could be transferred from a male prison into a female prison. And so a bunch, you know, at least one male rapist, rather cases, well, one notorious male rapist, just suddenly said, well, I'm now a woman, and got put into a woman's prison, where literally he was surrounded by new potential victims. And this was supposedly a progressive female leader of a country. Now, unsurprisingly, she lost her job not long after that for a number of reasons, but this was one of them. And it was just, I felt, I mean, I knew her quite well. I was like, how can a woman from voting women's rights, like you do, allow that to happen, to put a male rapist who puts his hand up and says, I'm now a woman, is like putting a hand, a fox into a hankoo, that's the same thing. And yeah, a lot of women were like, no, no, no, this is progressive. Really, you think that's why the suffragettes fought for women's rights? So you could put male rapists into women's prisons, are they going to attack other women? I mean, it's just completely crackers. Well, and it's, look, thank you for coming on uncensored. Of course. I saw what you were getting at. I knew immediately you weren't making a mockery of this. You were just saying, this is a problem. And it has to be sorted. And you've all got your head in the sand. And you're pretending it's not a problem. And I salute you for exposing it. And I think sometimes it takes moral courage. And as you say, you're getting death threats every hour, which is disgusting. But that follows what happens with these kind of debates, people on the left. They think there is not even a left-right thing, as you say. But people have a kind of woke mentality. They think it's absolutely fine to lecture you about being misogynist while simultaneously threatening to kill you, right? And it's utter hypocrisy. The last thing, I really want to make it clear to all every Americans or everyone out there. I'm not here to mock, make fun of any personal decision, any group or anyone out there, you know? I'm literally just going out there and sharing my views. And people are calling it anti-woman. You know, it's a free speech that can say whatever they want to say, but Megan Rapinoe or whoever out there, please come, let's debate. Let's have a conversation, peers right there. I'm not shy of anything. I would love to just sit down and have a conversation. And maybe you know what? Maybe you'll educate me. Maybe there's something that I don't see that I'm-- that maybe you can educate me and we can have a conversation. My mindset will change. So I'm a peacemaker. I don't want to have any trouble with anyone. I know they're villainizing me. And now I'm like the number one public enemy. But I really would like to sit down and have a conversation with whoever's out there. Well, if Miss Rapinoe is watching, we've tried to interview her many times. She has never agreed to be interviewed by me. Here's the challenge, Megan. I wonder why. Megan gives it the big one on social media. Fearless Megan. What if you're that fearless? Come on uncensored. And me, you and NSW have a little chat about this whole issue. And we are prepared to be educated and prepared to have our minds changed if you are able to do that. So Megan Rapinoe, that is the challenge. Stop ducking us. Come on, have the debate. And let's hear why you think it's fine. And we will argue our case and the viewers can determine who they think has won the argument. NS, thank you very much indeed for coming on. Thank you, brother. [MUSIC PLAYING] This Morgan on Sensor is proudly independent. The only boss around here is me. We enjoy our show and also only one simple thing. It's subscribe on YouTube and follow. Here's Morgan on Sensor on Spotify and Apple Podcast. And in return, we will continue our mission to inform, irritate, and entertain. And we'll do it all for free. Independent, uncensored media has never been more critical, and we couldn't do it without you.