The artist reflects on their identity within hip-hop, particularly in the wrap subgenre, emphasizing the integral role of adlibs in their music. They describe adlibs as organic, flowing from natural inspiration during production, and highlight signature phrases like “come on,” “man, really just doing too,” and “OK tool” as part of their personal style. These adlibs are not tied to specific meanings or origins, and the artist resists territorial claims, viewing them as shared creative elements. They frequently collaborate with others, adding their adlibs to tracks or allowing adlibs from other artists to be integrated if it fits the song’s flow. This openness extends to their broader creative philosophy, where they prioritize authenticity and freedom over ownership. The artist shares personal background from Chicago, growing up in the city’s low-end neighborhoods, where the “trenches” symbolize poverty and struggle, but also fostered strong community bonds and personal growth. Music became a natural outlet, not a planned career path, blending writing and freestyling depending on the moment and mood. The artist remains grounded, deflecting public questions about personal life, finances, and relationships, while expressing a strong sense of self and privacy. Their current projects include a 2025 or 2026 release titled "San Andy Evade," named for its theme of mental exhaustion and survival. They emphasize that music, identity, and personal experience are deeply intertwined, with fans referred to as "family." The artist concludes with a message of staying cautious, financially responsible, and mentally strong, urging listeners to remain aware and vigilant in a complex world.
Now at this point, what genre of music do you consider yourself? Wrap or I know. Does it get any more specific than that? Sometimes there's like a subgenre people consider themselves into. And say wrap like hip hop texture. Now when it comes to wrap, what is your opinion on adlibs in a song? I use our lips. I think they make a song better. Now when it comes to your adlibs, do you have a strategy at all when you implement them in your music? Uh, not just go just flow. It's whatever comes to my ear, you know. And when it comes to this head of yours and these adlibs, do you have a signature adlib by any chance? A main adlib you're known for. Yeah, I got like, come on. Uh, I got one like, uh, man, really just doing too. Now when you implement either of these signature adlibs of yours here, is there? I got OK tool. I've been saying OK a lot. Yeah, so don't do. So those three there. Now is there any meaning when you implement each of these three here? Uh, the meaning of self-explanatory is there where I'm saying. OK, didn't know if there was anything, uh, further than that. But uh, out of all three of these, is there one you use a little bit more than the others? Uh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Now speaking of that, when it comes to your music, if there was a circle chart of 100 percent, what percentage songs of yours with adlibs versus no adlibs at all? Uh, uh, I don't know, I know the adlibs sound count to be higher, for sure. I mean, what songs are added than I made without. Got it. Now when it comes to these three adlibs you use, were you the first recording artist to ever do these adlibs? No, I don't know. Be that as it may, were you inspired by anybody in particular for either of these adlibs here? No, I inspire niggas, though, I inspire everybody else, it was my shit. Now is this something that you're inferring here? Have others given you your flowers, paid you homage, so to speak? No, I'm gonna give my shit, it'd be dick right now, crazy. Now how do you handle that? Because you know, there's some recording artists that are territorial over their adlibs and that sort of thing? I don't begin, no foot. I just don't pay no mind. Okay, and when it comes to this mentality, have you always had this mentality or was this something you worked your way into? Like maybe there was a time when you were territorial over your adlibs and you cared about things of that nature and maybe you called people out privately or publicly over that time. Oh, never give up. Now when it comes to collaborating with other recording artists, which you've done, have you ever added your adlibs to another artist's verse on the same song? Yeah. Now how does that work? Yeah. Does the other artist ask you to do that? Do you just voluntarily do that? It depends on who you're in the studio with, I mean, I don't do it for like my brothers, I just said, you know, under my accent or you might, I just might want to do it. It already depends on what type of song they make and how much of a feather, you know. Now what about this? Something slightly different, but in the same vein, more or less. What are your thoughts on songs with another artist's adlibs on them? But no hooker verse from them on that song. It's just their adlibs being used sprinkled throughout the track. It depends on if it fit in the artist's end of song. So everything is good, it depends, you know. Now with you personally, have you ever done that yet? Sprinkle had your adlibs sprinkled throughout a song, but no hooker verse from you on it. Have I done it with like, yes, how about you? Yes, how about you? Vice versa here? Yes. I did both. And when you were asked the very first time to do something of this nature, did you feel any sort of, do you feel some type of way? for lack of better phrase, like, hey, you just want my adlibs? You don't want my hook or my verse or my presence on this song? Hey, I know. Just curious there. And zooming out, ask you a variety of questions here, just on the subject of adlibs, anything else you want to mention about this before we move on to another subject here? Not good. Nothing crazy, but still an interesting topic for some. Now when it comes to your catalog of music here? Let's dive a little bit deeper with that. What's been your biggest song so far? Empaigwise or Navuize? However, we want to take this. It's up to you. Number wise, it's come on. Empaigwise is blue geos. Now, when it comes to either of these songs here, as much press and media coverage as you've done, thus far, are there any unknown facts or stories in regards to either of these songs never publicly mentioned before? Anything? It's a question about blue geos, I read. That's my, that's my very good passage. Yes, yes, you have. Didn't know if there was anything else, maybe you left out or in regards to, you know, creating, recording, releasing either of those songs here? Now, are there any plans for any additional installments to your past projects? No, like the luxus is it? Could be de luxus could be a volume 2, a number 2? No, no, no. I probably do another rapist ceremony, probably, probably. Turning that into a series? No, not for real. That's probably like, up to three. Up to like that, not crazy, like not no longer a series, you know. Now, aside from these, are there any future projects those in the audience can look forward to? Yeah, I got some, I got a project from the Drops, it's called "San Andy Evade." But I'm going to update for it though, in the official drop date on it. I got a checklist though, I was not going to drop that for it. So could this be something still to release in 2025 or 2026 perhaps? 2025. Fuck me, maybe 2026, I don't know, but I'm trying to do 2025. Now, this title here, are you able to break that down for those in the audience? Why you called it that, the reason behind the title, so on and so forth? Says, the title really self-expanded to it is "San Andy Evade." You know what I'm saying? I was like, I'm gonna fuck a, my fucking sanity is gone. You know, they tweaking and stressing. You got last shit going on. You know, whatever, you're going to do shit. Whatever my college of sanity to be evaded at the moment, or absent. It's a nice tape for you to open your ears. You know what I'm saying? Now, speaking of sanity and things of that nature, you know, there are some that we'll listen to music and that'll help aid with what they've got going on and what they're going through, so on and so forth. Some may go a professional route in regards to their mental health. Like, yeah, like see a mental health professional of some sort, things like that. That's true. I ain't saying no therapy. I was saying therapy is a zero. I felt my therapy, she'd call it a zero. Can't shit. Shout out to Miss Tanya. And that was something that, for lack of a better phrase, you were forced to do. No, I'm forced to do that. That was voluntary. She'd call it a zero. We kicked it. That was my shoulder. That was voluntary. Oh, got it, got it. Go ahead, I'll lay, because you got a therapy game. You know, you know, a lot of people are trying to make something like that. That's your goofy, you got a therapy or something. That's them. They have goofy and they don't hear it anyway. Now, speaking of you here and diving a little bit deeper into your history, for those in the audience, getting to know you here for the very first time. Maybe they've seen your name. Maybe they've seen the cover. Haven't had a chance to press play on your music. Want to get a little bit more information on you? Care to share where you were born, taking it all the way back. City wise, state wise. Yes, city, state. Care to share where you were born. And for those sleeping under a rock, care to share where you raised as well. Really towards the low end. So I grew up towards the low end and then we started moving towards like the high end of the city towards like trying to share like that. Our brother already lived in the area, though, like it was a whole life. So when I got to a certain age, you know, I went all the time and I share like that because [BLANK_AUDIO]
And when you say the phrase "brother" here, are you speaking biologically or figuratively? It's really both in my eyes, but technically figuratively. And zooming out, care to share where you reside these days. Now when it comes to Chicago, when's the last time you were there? Sure, out of time, out of just that. Now circumstances could be different for everyone, but can you give the audience five, ten, tips for anyone visiting Chicago? Yeah, sure. They've heard about it? It's their very first time, yes. Don't walk in no dark alleys at nighttime. Go get you a gun. Stay in the house when it's past like eight. If you go out, go downtown. Stop trying to come out to other people's cities and go visit the trenches. That's not how I work, that shit is not a amusement park. People die out there, if the number five says, "No, it might have been." Yeah, by the way, it might have been. Now you said these five relatively quick here. Are there any bonus tips for those in the audience when it comes to visiting Chicago? No, come out here with no goofies. Don't let them lie to you, niggas go out of town and tell you that they blocks up, and then how you stand on their shit and shout out, "Don't come out here with no goofies." That's something of the fact of, there might be fans or listeners that love the Chicago music scene, love the Chicago recording artist, and they want to visit these trenches they hear about. They want to visit some of these locations they've seen in music videos. How much of a rise in those type of, for lack of better phrase, Taurus, have you seen because of the popularity of Chicago music in its scene? A lot, a lot of my fuckers, I don't make it smart though, you know, go to Vietnam when you hear the air war, shit, you know, yeah, I make it smart, okay, 101. Now let's say there is someone in the audience that would love to see that up close, right? Just curious there, okay, well, when it comes to you growing up in Chicago and things that nature, what was that really like for you? Growing up in that environment. So every other trench, the same question you ask the Memphis nigga, "You know, this is the same thing, air part, there's different cities, different cities going on, it's why it's gang-lapse, so like that, but everybody's curious and the same shit." Now, when it comes to the phrase "the trenches," right, obviously this is depicted in music videos, it's in music lyrics, song, song and so forth, but for those that have just heard about it, never been around that environment, never grew up in that. What are the trenches really like? Shit, bro, it's like poverty, my fuckers know what's going on. Even if you ain't been, everybody knows what's going on, it's just common sense, right? Whatever racial motherfuckin don't get, that's what the trenches do get, so I'm a fucker who don't got money, or racial motherfuckin they got the bread, so they ain't never trenches, they're my fucker who don't got the money in the trenches, that's what that is, how's that? If it's green on this side, it's dirty on this side, it's common sense. Now, obviously dealing with that environment, there's obviously negative aspects of it, but there could be some positive as well, and I want to make it correct, and I do want to ask you both sides if you're willing to share some answers here. Now, for you, what was the top point for you growing up in that environment? What was your highest point, or most positive moment, growing up in that area for you of Chicago? Was there a moment you were really proud of? Yeah, a moment is really going to come from, like, friendships and shit, so friendships, relationships, school, shit like that, once you start out, like, the big relationships with teachers and shit like that, they try, you know, they help them get to a goal, you set a goal, you get to it throughout the year, it's shit like that, you know, so it's really all about what you make it. Now for you, what about the talent of music? Would you consider that maybe one of your highest points or top points? No. Because I didn't like it, it just came at a certain time, and it was only last year, for this and not a time. It's like, there's a way for me all the time, so that's part of me. Now, care to shed some light on why or how you got into music of all towns, because, you know, there's some kids that get into sports, there's some kids that get into art. I asked her this question a lot already, so I think they know to ask that I asked her that question every minute. Now what ended up becoming, excuse me, let me rephrase that, what ended, let me rephrase that one more time. What led this to become a career path for you? Because it could be something that just, you know, you get into, but doesn't mean you stick with it. This is just something I do. I do a lot of things. So this is one of the things that I do that get recognition from me doing it. And as I'm doing it, people like to watch me do it, but this is just one of them type of stuff. That's all. They say, my only thing I do, you know, I'm an actor, if they call me right now, I'm like, Kelly in a movie, me doing, I'm whatever I am, you know, I'm whatever I need to be. Now I know you're putting this into the air, but have you had any of that actually happen so far? Have you been called on for some sort of roles here? Things of that nature? Like, regular listen, yeah, but not no crazy stuff. Not no crazy. I'm going to see me some of the Hollywood movie, give me life for five years. Now when it comes to your music in particular, at this point, do you, excuse me, do you write or freestyle and punch in? Out of both. Everything is very, it's about, I don't, forever, you know. And sonically, do you notice any difference when you listen to your own music, whether it's written or freestyle, then punched it? It would be depending on if I'm high on that, that's what a difference come in, no one you have for if you feel intoxicated or not, you know. But when it comes to your biggest song so far, you mentioned two of them in a previous conversation. And that was the biggest impact and one that was statistically the biggest. Share each of those songs one more time. Come on, Bojo. Yes. Now, when you listen to either these songs, do you recall whether they were freestyle and punched in or written or both on both of these songs? Uh, Bojo's freestyle, come on, it was written. And just with your history of music, how did it start initially? Were you a writer at first and then you started freestyling and punching it? Or maybe you were a freestyler punching in from the beginning and then ended up writing? I was writing at first, but first I used to write and then I saw a freestyling. And was that just natural experimentation for you or were you influenced to freestyle and punch in at some point? I was just natural. It was something I chose to do. And I did want to clarify one thing and that, uh, is when you're under the influence of a substance, uh, asking if you, uh, written or freestyle and punched in. So here's the clarification. Does that mean when you're under the influence, you will choose whether to write or freestyle and punch in or you could tell whether you did one of those two under the influence? I don't know if that's true, depending on what it's going on, but if I want to freestyle, but it's a beat, it doesn't sound like a beat that, you know?
- I don't know how I feel, how to be made me feel. - Now at this point, what is the biggest misconception of you, what's a wrong or inaccurate idea people may have about you? - A lot of shit in the air, fuck up. I ain't trying to fix it though, so. You know, I ain't trying to club in the room and I ain't trying to fix no thought. Everybody gonna think what they think. You know, I'm gonna be who I will be. I'm gonna do what the fuck I'm gonna do. - They gonna do what the fuck they gonna do. - And why that mentality there, was this something that you've always been like or something you grew into at some point? - I always been like this. - 'Cause anywhere with the internet anyway. - Yes, when it comes to misconceptions and rumors, there are some that will address any and every single one that comes to them. And then there's some that sounds like the case here with you, sweep it under the rug and let people talk. - Yeah, you know, you push it all under the rug, keep pushing, okay. Now, is there a question you receive? Speaking of, you know, past press runs and interviews and so on and so forth. - How many kids I got? None of your business. That's my response to that day. It'd be asking me how old I am. 88, can I ask you it? People like to ask me, do I have a girlfriend? Is it the sky blue? I don't know, sometimes the sky do look red. It look all the type of publics, right? Right. A question that's not meant to ask. People like to ask me how much money I make. I don't know. I have as much money they print it in my way, you know? Sometimes I call them they will be print. He might wake up at six, send me a load. No, no credit, you know what I'm saying? That's really it. Now, what about Holley and he was like asked me what I'm wearing? I don't know, sometimes like, I got this little new machine that shit, I just might make some shit some days, you know? Some days I wake up, I make me some shit. Make me a little Louis Vuitton in the garage, you know what I'm saying? Make me a little balenci kick, you know? Be out of the, so I look, you know? Be out of the, he's doing it. Put a little AP on the back of the watch. I made this business myself, you know what I'm saying? Now, speaking of jewelry, you are sporting some pieces during this interview. It looks like a watch on each wrist here. Care to share the, these watches. What's brand, what model? That's the AP, took this from nigga who owed me some money. Yo, my homie someone, you know what I'm saying? This or all, we got this from nigga who really just didn't need it, right? No, he needed this, he was clubbed and needed. This is real quick, not crazy, you know? This ain't mean I'm a jewelry, though. This is just a bloodshed, you know what I mean? Chill, right now. I got me another chain, I just, because Cuban, I got me, you know what I'm saying? Nigga does is being nice and gifted me that bitch a reality. Like, you got me a Cuban from that. I'm a fucking gifted me some other shit. Nigga's like gifted me shit. They really fuck with me, I fuck with the nigga, they're a gang shit. So I'm saying. Now, what about OTF, that imprint there? I'll let you mean. What's it really like being a part of that collective? That is not a question for me to answer, because you will have to ask OTF, remember? Not saying like that to my boys, you know what I'm saying? It's just that you don't go around a motherfucker. If I bring good around me, if you were reaping them, and you go sit in front of the camera and somebody asks you what it's like being around us, don't go telling them I've been, they ain't got shit to do with you, you know what I'm saying? They ain't got nothing to do with me. So the only thing I tell you, what it's like being is YFG. 88, and I always bring shades, you know what I'm saying? That's the only thing I can tell you. Now with YFG, what's the current update with that? And that brand there? Like, are there any new artists in that collective? One should be aware of, are there? Yeah, I got a couple new artists. They know my brothers though, can you understand what I'm saying? They'd be saying my older brother, dance, be rapping, they'd be saying, a little benchy, be rapping, but they'd be saying a little Dre rapping. A couple of people are already familiar with looking, a little deep, you know what I'm saying? You know, they out there. They don't know. We starting to call the brand up from the drop some shit. I ain't gonna really spill this though, but we finna guess we should out the, you know, another brand. This one, what an hell. Yes, there it is. And when it comes to bands, he's actually off camera to the side of you during this interview. Yeah, shit. No brothers, they ain't a cut though. He always stay with me. Yeah, well, he'd be with me, you know what I'm saying? Now, he would be like the pocket on my jeans though. Can you say? Now, care to share how you two met. Can you take the audience all the way back there? No, I can not, but you know what I'm saying? That's my brother though. That's brother, brother, brother, brother, can you say it? They, it ain't really even needed to be explain what's going on. Oh, how I met my brother. You know, I had someone fucker while you believe in God. You believe in Him, right? Well, actually, I do ask that sometimes. Well, you can't ask nobody why they believe in what they believe in. They believe in that they got their own reasons. Whatever their reasons is, I feel that origin doesn't matter. Origin relies with the person that they rely with. Is your origin keep, you know what I'm saying? The origin story, right? Right. You're a person that believes in privacy on the origin stories. Right. It depends on the origin story. But there are so many people that are interested in yours. But all right, that's pretty good there. I think that's pretty much it. An outro here, and then we'll be done. Come on. Now, when it comes to your followers, your fans, or supporters, maybe even a different name here, what do you refer to them as at this point? That's the family. You know that's right now. They give you, right? We get each other right. You sound fine. There's some power for power. Let's go power for power. Now, before this interview ends, is there anything else you were not asked, they really want to know? No, I really, no. I don't know if you got to let them outside. They get in the comments, they run that bitch up, and they let us know we might set up something for a different one. You know, the back track on the shit they asked. Put a part two up, but they got to get that bitch going, though. This one, though. There's got to be time for us to come back and do it. Now, anything else here? No. Stay dangerous. Keep your guard open. Close the bell. No. Stop listening to the bullshit. You know, stay healthy. Keep your pockets up. Get some money before you get a nut off. I'm saying, keep your pockets fat. Not your fucking mouth. I'm saying, that's how you're going to do that, though. [BLANK_AUDIO]
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The artist identifies as a hip-hop producer with a strong presence in wrap (a subgenre of hip-hop), valuing adlibs as essential to making songs feel authentic and dynamic.
Adlibs are implemented spontaneously based on what comes naturally during the creative flow, with no strict strategy, and the artist uses signature phrases like “come on,” “man, really just doing too,” and “OK tool” without assigning deeper meaning to them.
The artist has never claimed ownership of these adlibs, considers them universal, and refuses to be territorial over them, emphasizing freedom and openness in creative collaboration.
Summary:
The artist reflects on their identity within hip-hop, particularly in the wrap subgenre, emphasizing the integral role of adlibs in their music. They describe adlibs as organic, flowing from natural inspiration during production, and highlight signature phrases like “come on,” “man, really just doing too,” and “OK tool” as part of their personal style. These adlibs are not tied to specific meanings or origins, and the artist resists territorial claims, viewing them as shared creative elements.
They frequently collaborate with others, adding their adlibs to tracks or allowing adlibs from other artists to be integrated if it fits the song’s flow. This openness extends to their broader creative philosophy, where they prioritize authenticity and freedom over ownership. The artist shares personal background from Chicago, growing up in the city’s low-end neighborhoods, where the “trenches” symbolize poverty and struggle, but also fostered strong community bonds and personal growth.
Music became a natural outlet, not a planned career path, blending writing and freestyling depending on the moment and mood. The artist remains grounded, deflecting public questions about personal life, finances, and relationships, while expressing a strong sense of self and privacy. Their current projects include a 2025 or 2026 release titled "San Andy Evade," named for its theme of mental exhaustion and survival.
" The artist concludes with a message of staying cautious, financially responsible, and mentally strong, urging listeners to remain aware and vigilant in a complex world.
FAQs
I consider myself in hip hop, with a focus on specific subgenres like wrap, which includes a hip hop texture.
Yes, I use adlibs and often include them spontaneously, based on what comes to my ear during the flow.
Yes, I have a few signature adlibs like 'come on,' 'man, really,' and 'OK,' which I use frequently.
The meaning is mostly self-explanatory, and I don’t assign deep significance to them. They’re more about feel and flow.
Yes, I’ve added my adlibs to other artists’ tracks, depending on the song’s vibe and chemistry in the studio.
Yes, I’ve done that too—my adlibs have been used in songs without any of my verses.
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