‘Yes, Netanyahu IS a War Criminal’ Qatar PM Speaks To Piers Morgan About Gaza, Iran, Trump & More

Netanyahu, he attacked Qatar. He's just trying to gas like the public. Who's interfering and meddling with United States politics? Is it Qatar or Israel? Do you think he's a war criminal, Benjamin Netanyahu? Well, of course, what's being committed and reserves war crimes. What is the truth about your relationship, Qatar and Hamas? I mean, this has been the accusation for ever. We reject the whole thing. There's been no sign of the new Supreme Leader. Have you had any direct contact with him? Is he definitely alive? We didn't have any direct engagement. Would it be easier for you if the president called in jets on social media? Much easier for us if there is no media at all. Prime Minister, thank you very much for giving me this interview. You're first for uncensored, and I'm going to show you it is what it says on the tin. Everything we discuss will go unedited, exactly as we've said in the conversation. I want to start with something you said this week. You described the Iran War as an earthquake with its shockwaves reaching far beyond the region, challenging assumptions about security and stability. Where were you right before this earthquake happened? Where were you physically? Well, first of all, thank you, Pierce, for having me today, and just also to stay the fact that, you know, as a mediator, sometimes I won't be able to answer the whole questions, and just to preserve, you know, the integrity of the diplomacy, but otherwise I would try my best to be as transparent as possible. Now, look, before this war started, we've been sensing that there is an urge for diplomacy, for finding diplomatic solutions for this, we didn't spare any efforts or any route in order to find diplomatic solutions. We've been engaging with the administration back in the United States trying to find their solutions, trying to find a deal between them and the Iranians, but unfortunately it didn't work out. We've been actually warning and anticipating that the consequences of this war will go beyond the region. It won't be just affecting Iran or affecting directly the region, but it will affect the global economy. It's setting also like a new standards and new methods of warfare, and this is what we are watching and witnessing today. So, to my question, physically, where were you when it started? I was sleeping in my bed, actually, and I was walking up just a few minutes or half an hour before the war and being informed that a campaign is about to start. Who told you that? From the US administration, I got a call from the White House. Half an hour before? Yeah. What was your reaction? Is there anything can be done to stop this from happening? But basically, it was already starting. Would you have liked more notice? Do you think you could have done more if you'd have more time to think? Well, of course I mean, if we had, like an earlier notice, we would do everything we can in order to avoid this war from happening. We always see diplomacy is the only way forward. We always see diplomacy is the solution for any conflict. But unfortunately, in this specific situation, it was a surprise for us. And also, even when the campaign started and just 45 minutes or an hour later, we had been attacked on our mainland on Qatar. That has just held us paralyzed in doing anything and engaging in diplomacy in the first days because we became part of that war. Qatar has a sort of unique position here, where you're an ally of the United States. You have their bases, obviously, in your country. You're pretty friendly with the Iranians. You've done business with them. You have a sort of mediator role that you've developed over a number of years. You've worked with Israel in terms of getting stuff into Gaza and stuff before. We come to that. But it's a kind of unique place that you have, but also very complex. I mean, very difficult to have to please all these people. And the Iran war, it seems to me, has brought all of these things colliding together at the same time for you. How difficult has it been for Qatar? Well, look, it's been always a complex situation in our region. And I believe everyone recognizes this. Qatar and the leadership in Qatar has been recognizing this for decades. And we've been building our nations based on these realities that we can never change. Geography is something that we cannot change. We cannot do anything about, except trying to drive it to drive the circumstances to become a better environment and a better circumstances for everyone to coexist together and to live peacefully. Iran has been our neighbor and will remain our neighbor forever. We are not going anywhere. We have decades of relationship with them based on mutual respect. Their cooperation has been limited to giving the sanctions. But we tried our best to maintain that this good neighborhood relationship. Although we had a lot of disagreements throughout these decades and in many of the policies. In fact, one of the main themes of these disagreements was in Syria. And you have seen that Qatar has taken a very firm position since 2011. And we didn't change our position until Assad has left Syria while Iran was the biggest supporter of Assad. And we've been always sitting across the table from each other representing the front party. Now, U.S. Qatar relationship has been like a fundamental strategic relationship for our country, for it's embedded in our nation security and economy. And basically, this alliance we will never jeopardize or we don't want to get it compromised and we would like to see the best out of this U.S. Qatar cooperation that reflects positively in the security of our region. And GCC is our strategic security partners as well. And basically, this complications has been always a challenge that Qatar is trying to navigate. Mediation as a main role for Qatar people actually sometimes are looking at recent events and that Qatar has mediated in. But this has been historically Qatar position and not taking an extreme position with any party and trying to develop a friendship and connection with everyone around it. And with everyone around the world and we have had a track record in agreements where it was between Eritrea and Djibouti, Sudan, that was way before we came even into politics altogether with myself personally. And then, of course, you have seen Afghanistan, U.S. mediation, Gaza mediation, Iran, U.S. mediation. And there are many fronts that we have developed and cultivated this skill within our institutions and our people to become one of the key themes of Qatar foreign policy. Do you feel angry if you're honest about this war? And I'll tell you why I suspect you must do because there you are, you have U.S. forces and their base. You've been attacked by Iran taking a huge chunk of your big liquid natural gas refinery causing you enormous economic hardship with that one action. Israel attacked you, which I thought at the time was completely outrageous, but they did. It seems like everyone's been coming after Qatar, notwithstanding your position as the peacemakers for a number of years in the region. There must be Qataris, you think, well, what has always been for? But we're now suffering all this harm through no fault of our own. Is that how you feel? Well, look, it appears. Of course, you know, peace comes at cost. And basically, we are a small country. And if we would like to grow and we would like to see our country progress and flourish, we would like to see ourselves living in a stable region. And if we are not doing anything about it, there are not many who are willing to do anything about it. That's why Qatar has been, you know, embedded this in our national security doctrine and foreign policy doctrine. Now, of course, if you will ask people in my country, you will see some of them who are unhappy with what Qatar has been doing in mediation. Maybe some of them, as you know, I mentioned in the Bloomberg interview just last week that, you know, the world has peacemakers, troublemakers, saboteurs, and people who are sitting back and doing nothing. We have people in our country. country that wants us to sit back and do nothing about it. But the leadership is determined that we cannot be just sitting silent without trying our best to make sure that we get the best for our region and for our country. Look, our region has a lot of potential. It's unfortunate that we are living under this complications. It's blessed with resources. We have talented people, there are smart people all around the region. If this region come together, it will be way more powerful than any part of the world. And this is something that all of us we should aspire for. Now, being attacked by the Israelis while we were mediating and trying to push for Trump proposal at that time in Doha was totally unacceptable and condemned. I mean, there is a setting, a precedent of attacking the mediator that has never happened throughout the war in history. Mediators has been always having a special status within different adversaries yet. Netanyahu has crossed the line like he has crossed other lines before that. When we were attacked from Iran, it was also totally unacceptable to be attacked not only as a mediator, but as a labor that didn't cause harm for them. It was the opposite, actually. We were trying to help to avoid this war for them all the time. But unfortunately, when this thing happened, also like it took us by surprise and took us time for us with a lot of requests and a lot of calls that's been coming from different world leaders to be step up and intervene in the mediation until we took the decision to mediate. At the end of the day, the Amir Zionist, he has a vision that if we are preserving one single life, we are preserving a city from being attacked or a group of civilians to be protected, that's worth all what's happening. And basically, this is what we are trying to do. I'm not saying that we are a country that has an ideal situation, but we are trying our best to be an active and constructive player in our region. Imagine setting your makeup, then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new grippy setting mist from Mavily New York. Jell-to-Mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all-day-convy grip. No tightness, no stickiness, no residue. 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Well, there are actually many of those numbers has been accurate and we report it as government, and actually we have a very firm and clear decision by his highness since they were from the war that we should be transparent with our partners, with the other countries, with the international that anything that hit or damaged our economy, that should be reported, whether it's on the RNG facility when it was targeted by the Iranian missile and the export that unfortunately got stopped because of the closure of their straight-of-formers and the deficit that we are learning in our budget. But we need also to recognize the fact that Qatar has built and embedded that in our strategy and in our policy to build this kind of resilience for the country in order to face these kind of challenges and difficulties. And that's why when we look at it as an earthquake, we have tested our foundations and it's been proven that it's strong. We have the sustainability of our institutions and the response that they had showed an outstanding response whether it's from a defense point of view or from supply chain point of view. And then also how to rethink to build on what we have identified as a challenge to avoid it and God forbid for any upcoming challenge in the future. Yes, we are facing difficulties and deficit. But if we wouldn't like build our reserves, create our sovereign wealth fund, which was a decision that's been taken more than 20 years ago. The stability funds that we created few years ago for the government that keeps the government up and running. Even with our budget cuts that we have done, we have done this very wisely and very clearly on certain secondary projects, not in our capital projects, nor in our payroll and the salaries of the people we didn't want and we don't want the people to feel affected as much as possible. But there are some tough decisions that we needed to take given the circumstances. And all this, we see it as a circumstantial issue. It will not remain forever. It's not a structural contradiction for our economy. We're still pursuing our expansion of the LNG. Our production will come back online as soon as those trains are fixed. And once we, the shipping will be resumed, we are going to recover for all our customers, what we've missed. Katzour is 50 years or so old. And obviously your enormous wealth was fueled predominantly by liquid natural gas. They found this enormous area in Katzour was pumping out this resource and this made the sort of Katzour very, very wealthy, obviously. We've been through some huge global economic issues in the last 30 years in particular. The financial crisis of 2009, the pandemic in 2020. Has this been the worst thing that you've had to deal with as a country, as a state, simply because it targeted the big source of your revenue, the liquid natural gas? Well, I think, look, if we look at it, Katzour has been through a lot of difficulties throughout history, throughout those, even the last 50 years, the recent ones, before the gas become like the main product at Katzour export, when we said that we are going to invest in natural gas, everyone was telling us, you are crazy. At that time, the country was bankrupted. People have a short memory. They tend to forget that Katzour in 1996, 1997, we were borrowing money to pay the salaries for the public servants in the government, we were trying to sell government assets in order to fulfill these commitments. And we decided just to take the shot and invest in the natural gas. And apparently, it became one of the main suppliers in the world, actually. Katzour today is a leading energy supplier and a reliable partner for many markets, especially in Asia, many in Europe. And actually, this has been a blessing. But also, it doesn't mean that we are not going through other challenges. We went through many challenges throughout those years. You have mentioned the pandemic recently, which has affected global markets, affected supply chain, and we have proven and shown resilience at that time. And this war actually, in terms of significance and volume, there is nothing like it in the modern history of Qatar. I believe this is one of the biggest crises that we went through. But also, we see that it has demonstrated really a resilience and a way to stand up to our people and to stand up to our region, as well as not to be just to stay and watch and waiting for our fate to change. What is the cold, hard reality right now in terms of? We read in here all sorts of contrary statements about the straight-of-all moves and what is coming through and not coming through. What percentage of your usual liquid natural gas is getting through that straight as we say here? Well, for us, you know, we have. a special status as a mediator. So we are trying our best not to provoke any of the parties. Right now, our exports are barely happening through mediation of the buyers. Because most of our contracts are contracts that we sell them the LNG, Indoha, and they bring their ships and take it. And whoever is taking their responsibility to grant themselves the permitting to go through the strait, either through the southern channel or through the northern channel by Iran, we deliver it for them. As much as possible, we would like to see diplomacy as the way to resolve the strait issue. Of course, it's unacceptable to close the strait and to mine international waterway. It's a lifeline for my country. It's a lifeline for the region that we are living in. And we are actually-- this war has imposed a reality that we don't want to see. But unfortunately, it's there. And we are trying our best to find the best peaceful way to resolve it. But it cannot be resolved currently with the diplomatic efforts. Of course, there should be legal ways and legal avenues that protect our rights also as a coastal state to have a free passage through the strait. I can't even imagine how difficult your job must be right now as mediator. In a war where you have the President of the United States Donald Trump firing off very incendiary posts in public on a regular basis, often threatening the annihilation of Iran. And you've got to deal with the Iranians and try and persuade them to do a deal with this guy. And they've also worked out that they can wage an asymmetric war by controlling the strait of foremost, which might be as effective, actually, as ironically having a nuclear weapon. And if they combine that with the strikes they've been taking against the Gulf States, it's proven to be a crude but very effective response to the attacks of the Israelis and the Americans. It's very hard to see. You've just been at the UNGA in New York meeting with the Iranian foreign minister and with the Americans and so on. And I'm struggling to see how you get a deal done anytime soon. If the Iranians think they're going to get obliterated because the President keeps saying they are, and they have the one thing that they can control is the strait of foremost, how do you get to a place that not only brings the war to an end, but allows you Qatar and other countries, of course, other states to get the energy flowing again. Well, it's not an easy mediation, first of all, you know. To put it wildly, I mean, it's challenging. It comes with its challenges. It comes with a lot of times efforts that we are doing. And we have a statement here and there. And by the way, we have also, there are many Iran politicians who are putting out inflammatory statements that also set suspect. But at the end of the day, we are trying to keep focusing on the positive of this. And the closed-door diplomacy is the most effective way that we see in order to get some progress. Unfortunately, many of the times, the dynamics that's happened on the ground is affecting the mediation efforts. But we are trying our best to avoid it and to make sure that the process is expedited and accelerated in order not to allow these dynamics to influence-- Would it be easier for you and everyone involved in trying to get to a deal here if the president called his jets on social media? Well, look, to be very fair, it will be easier, much easier for us if there is no media at all about this until we get to our solution. The social media has changed the landscape of the public opinion in the world. And has a lot of impact on everything and made the speed of the information flowing like this. And it's not as it used to be diplomacy in the past before this era was much easier because there is any record. And it's anything that's being reported. It takes time and probably it's done before it gets out in the report. And many of the times, the efforts got undermined because of the scoops that coming out in social media that unfortunately not serving the purpose. So back to your question, I mean, it's much better to have everyone just stopping, putting out statement and coming really engaging in the diplomacy and give it a shot. So just maybe cool it a bit, President Trump. Well, we hope so, I mean, so President, he has the choice to what to do or what to say. We are trying our best to give the best advice for the US government how to get to a resolution as well as the Iranians. There's been no sign of the new Supreme Leader, the son of the slain Supreme Leader. Are you actively engaged in discussion with him personally? No, actually, we didn't have any direct engagement with the new Supreme Leader. I don't think that there is any foreign government engaged with him. But whatever we are getting from our engagement with the Iranian officials, it comes also after a verification by the Supreme Leader. And this is at least what we've been told. Do you believe he's alive? I don't know. I believe what I hear as a mediator, I try just to be as objective as possible and to get to the results. I mean, the reason I'm asking is that a lot of people think that one of the complexities of this is that you're not quite sure who you're dealing with, that there are layers, perhaps, even within the IRGC, of people competing to have more authority and more power than that the Americans have taken out a level of people at the top. It's been hard to work out who do actually be negotiating with. Have you had any issues like that? Or are you clear about who has the authority to be actually negotiating? Well, I think, if anyone will try to get into the politics of things and Iran and how the decision-making is taken, or in any other mediation case, and just try to capitalize on the influence of that person or the other person, always you will have difficulties and challenges. The best way is to go through the official channels to make sure that your communication is streamlined and making sure that there is one party that you are dealing with and there is one clear channel of communication. And we've been engaging with the president, with the forum minister, and with the National Security Council. And I believe that those three people representing the whole apparatus of the Iranian system and that has been effective. And we worked out for the signing of the MOU through these channels. And we got to the MOU. And I think that right now, using the same channels, is the best effective way who is influencing what is the decision-making process to get into that and to Iran or into any other country. It's a complex thing. Let's turn to Israel, because Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the UNGA attacked Qatar directly in his speech. He said that he'd been waging an influence campaign, particularly in America, pumping billions into universities in an attempt to get people to come around to your way of thinking. Others on the Israeli side have gone even further. And Nafhtali Bennett, former Prime Minister, says you should be viewed as an enemy state. What is your response to that? Of course, we reject the promise itself. Look, when Netanyahu came out, and he attacked Qatar, he's just trying to gaslight the public. And for him, anyone, every celebrity, every journalist, every influencer, every student who will be vocal about the war crimes and the genocide being committed in Gaza, he will start to blame others for this and instead of looking at his own behavior and his government behavior, the whole thing actually became very, very clear for the world that it's becoming more and more insulting to be a little bit the awareness and the understanding of the public about everything that they are seeing in social media. Accusing Qatar that we are funding universities, funding journalists, funding everyone who goes against Israel is totally false accusations. Actually, he's trying to just reflect on what he's doing to influence the U.S., influence the U.S. policymakers with his own view. I mean, when we are doing the lobbying, for example, we are doing the lobbying for defensive reasons. It's not an investment for us that we are getting aid and exchange of this. When we are funding universities, we are not funding people or students or influencing the content of these universities, we are funding universities that operate in Qatar and has campuses over there and offering the opportunity and the chance for people in the region to study in these campuses. Look, when we started this relationship with the American universities and British universities, French universities almost 30 years ago, at that time, we were called by governments across like Democrats, Republicans, labor conservatives. From every aspect, encouraging us to cooperate with the academia in their countries in order to be able also to leverage on this knowledge for our LNG, for our development. And we have offered the chance for the people in the region. And at that time, actually, the irony, we were accused by a lot in the region that we are importing a Western culture to our country. Now, it's the opposite, actually, like whenever it suits Netanyahu in a way that we are exporting our culture to the American university. Of course, this is absurd. And I believe it's, as I mentioned, it's very insulting to just think about the people that they can buy these kinds of life. Imagine setting your makeup. Then forgetting it's even theirs. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours, with flexible all-day comfy grip. Maybe it's Mavily. Being reported that Katzals donated at least $4.7 billion between 2001 and 2021 to American universities, it's according to the National Association of Academics in the US. Katzals was the largest foreign source of gifts and contracts to American universities in 2025, spending $1.1 billion. And as you know, there are people like Ben Shapiro and others who say things like Katals spent $8.8 billion on US universities and new reports as they're using contracts with Georgetown and Northwestern to gain influence over curriculum, faculty hiring, and intellectual property to advance Islamist movements. Laura Luma, who has the ear of the President, posted on X, I loved Donald Trump. Sometimes you have to call a spade a spade. Katar, funds the Muslim Brotherhood, which funds BLM and T for an every Islamic radical in the United States, Katar is financing, terrorism and chaos in America. This is undeniable, it's a proven fact. What do you say to these right-wing influences? Some of them do have the ear of President Trump. When they're saying stuff like this, you're waging a kind of concerted attempt to warp the minds of Americans through using universities as they conduit. Well, actually, it's absurd, because the numbers are mentioned about 20 years' contribution to American universities. What is the country that has as many campuses as Qatar from American universities, while Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Texas, and A&M used to be their Virginia Commonwealth, while Cornell, Georgetown. All these universities have campuses in Qatar, and of course, the number will be bigger than probably other countries, because those spendings are 95% on these campuses. And the rest are the contractual commitment to those universities is not to influence the curriculum. And anyone can come and ask the universities at their campuses and do other professors if the government is interfering in anything related to the academia of these universities. These kinds of false accusations about Qatar and using Qatar as a scapegoat to justify war crimes, to justify students going, you know, against the war in Gaza, is just not trying to play the blame game. Why if just, you know, to think about it logically? If Qatar has all this influence and all these billions that's been invested in American universities and influencing the public opinion, you will see Qatar as the number one and aid, you know, recipient of United States. You will see Qatar never attacked and always protected and safeguarded. It's not that he's not very successful, is he a point? That's what it is. By the US. And it means that our investment was a bad investment. Why would we be interested in investing in, you know, in an ideology or in imposing our ideas? This is, this is really not true. I mean, look, I'll give you an example how, you know, those universities are mainly creating and providing the opportunities for the people in the region to get the access to Western education. When you look at the percentage of the students that we have from Qatar and from outside Qatar, they are coming from 110 different countries, I mean, my daughter is studying in one of those universities in her class, the Qataris are only 40% of the students, the 60% are coming from Korea, from Pakistan, from Iran, from Iraq, from different countries around the world. And that's basically showing how these universities are offering their opportunities for a lot of people who are not able to come to United States to get this education. Now, talking about Qatar, accused in Qatar that funding the Muslim Brotherhood or funding movements inside America is also to a theory of force. Why would we, you know, come and fund groups inside United States? I mean, Netanyahu stood up in the podium, he criticized the mayor of New York, he criticized the influencers, he criticized the student, he criticized a lot of things in the United States, now who's interfering and meddling with the United States politics? So I think that they are trying just to twist the facts for to serve their interest or to serve the interest of people they are paying them. There is a clear and it came out actually in the Israeli media a couple of weeks ago that there was a campaign that's being set by the Israeli government against Qatar officially and to fund institutions, to fund academia, to fund media outlets and content creator in order to create this pressure on Qatar and, you know, undermine our role as mediator. And you have seen throughout the last two years of the war in Gaza, every effort that Qatar was trying to put, to mediate, to end this war was always undermined by Netanyahu and his extreme level. Well, of course, what's being committed in Gaza is war crimes. And, however, responsible for this is a war criminal. So he is? Yes. There's been a lot of debate about whether they've been waging a genocide. As you know, the International Court of Justice has never found any state or country guilty of a genocide. And that's used by Israel as evidence why should they be accused of this when what they were doing is responding to what happened on October the 7th. What do you say to that? Well, look, I mean, there is no question about October 7th was a massacre and should be condemned and, however, responsible of this should be held accountable. But when we look at the response to October 7th, more than 70,000 people being killed. A whole city, a tiny city being wiped out. Hospitals being targeted, schools being targeted, wherever the justifications and the arguments, nothing is justifying this. Now, since we signed the ceasefire, that's been sponsored and actually facilitated by President Donald Trump back in October 25. Until today, there are more 1,400 cousins being killed. There is more occupied territory by almost 70% of the strip has occupied and not allowed by the Israeli forces. They are not fulfilling their commitments of this agreement. And this is just showing that they have a different intentions. And we have seen like a lot of reports, how these efforts every time that we wanted to stop this war, we wanted to stop these war crimes, being undermined, since day one of the war, when we were coming very directly to the Israeli officials and telling them that we got an agreement that releasing all the civilian hostages just give a window of a ceasefire to get everyone out. And they even rejected to entertain the idea. And that's showing what's their interest. Is it saving their people or just going to start? There have been multiple reports, as you know, started by Huretsson, the New York Times had now verified it, that Benjamin Netanyahu took a call from the leader of UAE warning about 10 days before October the 7th, that Hamas were planning a massive attack on Israel. Is that your understanding that that report is true, that that call happened? - Well, look, there has been many indications that an escalation is potentially going to happen, given the circumstances that we were witnessing in the past few months to October, leading to October 7. But what I can confirm, that is true, is at least we have reached out to the Israeli official in day one after a very tough meeting with Hamas leaders to get everyone out, to get all the civilian out. And our message was very clear. They are asking for a window of ceasefire to get the civilians out. And then we can discuss about the rest, and we can help in negotiating the rest. And basically, they were not interested to engage in the idea. They said that, look, they want to release them, let them go without doing anything. - And people are very suspicious of Qatar's relationship with Hamas. You know the narrative, is that you have allowed them to have a political office in Doha, that billions of dollars were funneled with Netanyahu's approval. It's said to Hamas over a number of years, and that the argument against Qatar helping to facilitate this is that it got used by the military arm of Hamas to then launch October 7, and build a sophisticated tunnel network to protect themselves once it all kicked off. - Look, I mean, this has been the accusation for ever, and whenever the issue is related to Qatar, they always associate billions of dollars that Qatar put for something that they want to do. And we reject the whole thing because since the beginning, Qatar was involved in our engagement with Hamas, based on the request of United States. We facilitated many dialogues with Hamas. When they established their political, or they moved their political office out of Damascus, was totally coordinated, and it was for a reason that not to get Hamas involved in that civil war in Syria, and not to be used Syria as a platform also for them, in order to ensure the regional security, then throughout those years, Qatar has mediated a lot of force between Hamas and Israel and Gaza and Israel. And this office has really gave its value for Israeli security as well. Now, when it comes to the numbers, and the amounts of money that been funded by Qatar to Gaza, and now they claim that these funds are going for Hamas military wing. It's totally absurd because since the beginning, since the start of this program, we had the Reconstruction Fund, which was set differently in 2014, after the war, to reconstruct Gaza and that built hospitals, built schools, built residential units that's been destroyed by the Israelis. Then the monthly funds that were going to Gaza, were 30 million dollars every month, that's been very clearly requested by the Israelis coordinated with the United Nations, with the United Nations, and was going specifically through a mechanism that's been defined by the Israelis. It was going 50 million dollars of this buying gas from the Israelis to operate the power generation generators and Gaza, the other 15 million are divided between assistance, 10 million assistance to 100,000 families, $100 per family, and those families who are living under the poverty line, verified by the Israeli security agencies, and every month is getting approved by them. And there is five million that goes for the salary of the civil servants in Gaza, that's also their list is verified, and it goes to a bank that's been approved by the United Nations and the Israelis, and the Israelis, in fact, they were moving the money themselves to these banks in order to get the disperse for the people, and throughout this program, since it's started, we actually, we agreed to do it with them for six months, and then we look at a sustainable solution, for the situation in Gaza, to let the blockade, to open up the economy for them, to get a better living, to get the cousins, for a better living standard, and every time we've been engaging with the officials, they're in Israel, they are actually, the counter-argument has been always, we are going through an election period, let us get past this and agree on something in the future, until actually the very last meeting that we had with the Israeli officials, just one week before October 7th, we have repeated that this will be the last cycle of it, that we are going to send without clarity on how the future will look like, and we have been very clearly making sure that every dollar goes to the right people, goes to the right channel, that verified by the Israelis, because we know that the easiest way for Netanyahu's government is just to throw the blame on others. And no one, I mean, now there are others who are accusing us, also those people who are accusing us with the same thing, they were running the government also at certain period, when the aid was continuing, and at that time we were receiving thanks letter, and today we are blamed for funding Gaza, and accused that this funds are going to Hamas military wing, this totally unacceptable. - Finally, Prime Minister, there's a chance President Trump watches this interview, I know he watches uncensored, he's been on it. We'll see your advice to him to try and end this war with Iran, because many people around him think he's trying to look for an off-round where he doesn't lose face. What advice do you give him, other than style, social media? - Well, look, I mean, every time his Highness or myself have a conversation with the President Trump, he's been always listening, he's been always very responsive, and very positively engaged. And basically, whenever we have a real chance for diplomacy, he always gives this chance and gives this opportunity, and I really command this in him. And I hope that this time, our efforts work, I think that it's timely, it's timely for us, it's timely for the region, it's timely for America and the world. And I believe there is no better thing than being the President who led to a peace in the region as he did in leading to the ending of the war on Gaza. - What does that deal potentially look like? In an ideal world, given all you know of how both sides are operating, take me forward six months to what a potential deal would look like. - Well, what we would like to see, actually, we would like to see three things addressed. Number one is the nuclear program to be sealed and done. That this is the agreement that the U.S., the IAA are satisfied with. And Iran can have their rights for peaceful nuclear power and get the sanctions lifted in order for the people to be able to live and to flourish. The second issue is the straight. And the straight needs go back to status pre-war. Now, Iran has different view on this. This should be subject to international law, subject to the agreement of the region. And we need, as a region, we need to come together. The third thing, we need to address and to repair what happened, actually, in our security arrangement, as GCC and Iran. And this wouldn't happen without a dialogue between Iran and GCC and setting the principles of what good neighborhood relationship should be. And this should include non-interference in each other affairs, includes that non-aggression on each other. And instead of discussing these matters, trying to build an area of common interest where we work together an area of energy, and economy, and trade, and businesses, and allow, really, the chance for this region to unleash its potential. And that's our message, has been always to them, that all of us as Qatar, the region, we are forward looking, we are extending our hands if there is a partner on the other side, to have security arrangements that make sure that everybody lives peacefully side-by-side. Bobanister, thank you very much for your time. - Thank you. - And greatly appreciate it. - Thank you. - Thank you very much. - Please walk in our sense, it is proudly independent. The only boss around here is me. We enjoy our show, and also only once. simple thing. It's subscribe on YouTube and follow Pears Morgan on sensitive on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. And in return, we will continue our mission to inform, irritate and entertain. And we'll do it all for free. 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