'X-Men' Cast Reveal and D23 2026 Reactions | The Midnight Boys

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We have just got back from Anaheim. What time is it right now? It is literally midnight. The Midnight Boys are literally podcasting at midnight. By the way, I just want to let you guys know we fucking are super excited. Yes. All right, so, like, this ain't one of those episodes where you're going to get a lot of fucking tangents. We're just getting right to the meat and potatoes. Right. The X-Men are officially coming to the MCU. Tonight, Kevin Feige brought out the director, Jack Schreier, and also has, I don't think this is the full cast, obviously, but right now it is Sadie Sink as Jean Grey, Kit Conner as Cyclops, Christopher Abbott is debuted as Professor Charles Xavier, Samir Weaving as Emma Frost, and. Inde Navarrete, Obsession Zone Nikki is Rogue, Maya Boyd is Storm, Adam Driver is Nathaniel Milbury, and Alter Ego of Mr. Sinister. I'm going to start with you, Van. Overall thoughts just on the cast. So, this is, okay, so I'm interested in what you guys think, because while this is what we'd hoped for, why did it feel like. It was a letdown. Am I tripping? I think it's because the crowd went mild when most of those announcements happened. So, please correct me if I'm wrong. There was a feeling like, we're excited, we're excited, but they held Marvel back. Like, that was the headliner event. Being in the room, it was a little bit like, Kevin Feige's like, all right, here, niggas. I was like, what? That's exactly what happened. It's not like it's in Hall H, because everybody's, everybody's there, sat there all day for, like, 36 hours, just waiting for these one announcements. Like, this is a massive event, like, that people are here for all things Disney. And Marvel is just one part of this. And while people were excited about all the things that were coming from Marvel, like, the ushering of all the things that we were supposed to be promised of, like, all these great people are looking to play X-Men. Who's it going to be? Is it going to be Lee Pace or Bryan Cranston? Yeah, Kaylee Spaney. And then we're like, all right, they're here. They're here. They're here. Okay. And that's been it. Yeah, I think part of that math, though, is that we've known, except for Maya Boyd, everybody else had been rumored to play a role in X-Men. But I thought Inde had been out of the running, because Kaylee Spaney, it had seemed the rumor mill was like, she's going to be rogue, she's going to be rogue. And I'm sorry, I know the internet is torn on this. If you have one of the hottest actress, new actresses in the game, it's not just that she has to be rogue. I was a little confused why they had kind of just, like, they introduced her and they kept going. And I was like, oh, you mean actually on the stage. I thought there would have been a little bit more, because like Sadie Sink obviously got that, because before they brought out the X-Men, they kind of gave her the floor because Brand New Day is so successful. Brian Gosling obviously got the floor for Star Wars, Starfighter. I was like, you ain't going to give Nikki from Obsession a little bit more of a. We should get to the individual castings and what they mean, if anything. But I'm sorry if people think that we're being pedantic or whatever. It was actually, I don't know what other people who covered it are going to feel like. It was actually, like, noticeable. The awkwardness of how that happened on the stage. Even Adam Driver being Mr. Sinister. Like, he played around with the I'm not Magneto thing, I'm actually Mr. Sinister, which was kind of funny. But like, there was a. I don't understand. I don't know. I think something else that it was, was just to paint the scene in the room. They're going to be so mad at us. It was. No, no, no. It was. The other presentation seemed a lot more practiced. They had more things to show us. They were coming with even the Simpsons movie, Animatics. If it was something like Lilo and Stitch, they're like, oh, Stitch got a girlfriend. Even Ryan Reynolds. There was. I mean, Ryan Gosling. There was a little bit more, like, we have stuff for you. The X-Men almost seemed squished at the end. And I don't know if they were running out of time. Feige even mentioned themselves, like, these people just met for the first time backstage. Yeah. So, it feels like the ink from the contracts is still wet. It might be. That and that's not the entire cast. There's still more work to be done. Do we think, though, that part of it is, like, after us being in the room in Hall H at Comic-Con, like, it's completely. We should have been at Hall H. I got to say that Jomie's right. I got. Because, A, they should have been at Hall H. I agree with that as well. But also, like, this. Right before, they gave us some doomsday stuff, but they replayed the same trailer that they played in Hall H. So, if you were there, which I'm thinking a lot of people probably were, that didn't wow you. Then the X-Men cast comes out. And I'll say something else about this cast. This cast is inspired in terms of the fact that they feel. They feel like they went with people that were the best people for the role. Like, they tried to cast it very authentically. But it's not the type of cast that, on the stage, everybody's going to go crazy. It's not a Jeremy Allen White comes out as Wolverine. Sure. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, like, that might almost be, like, not their fault, right? There's also some of this, I think. We were saying before we kind of got on mic, a Tom Holland thing. Where Tom Holland is a true example of Disney making a star. Where, when Tom Holland gets cast as Spider-Man, if he had come out at D23, it would have been something similar. And I think this might be Marvel going back to its roots, saying, we feel like we can make stars. Right. And I. Oh, sorry. And I was asking this to Jomie of, like, when was the last time that we truly thought that Marvel took an L when it came to casting somebody? Oh, great question. Like. Like. Like, the true, like, miscast people of the MCU, it's kind of hard to know that they really went with somebody wrong. Other than, I think you think, Mike Reed? Okay, well. Pedro? So, I gotta be real with you guys about that. So, I've been re-watching that movie a lot lately, because Bozeman's been having some trouble sleeping. And so, I've been up in the middle of the night, like, watching the movie. The movie grows on you every time you watch it. Okay. Okay. Has Reed. No, no, no. I'm not. I love Fantastic Four. Has Reed and. Still slightly miscast, but it's fine. Right. It's like, you know what I mean? Like, it's not a home run. I mean, I was actually gonna say Captain Marvel. The first one? Interesting. Yeah. Brie Larson? You think Brie Larson might not have been right for the role? Who? Not might have been right for the role. She's almost perfect for the role, but for some reason. They haven't got it right. My man Jock, one time, shout out to my man Jock, he called her Captain Applecare. That's Jason Lee, Jock, from Bossa. That's Jason Lee. That's my man Jason Lee from Bossa who said that. But be honest with you. Be honest. Once you hear it, in your mind, it's kind of. But think about it. Okay. Beyond that, that's probably a little bit too touchy. She's. It works. But think about other people who you really feel like were miscast. He's right. They haven't really done that. They haven't really miscast very many people. Yeah. If we go individually, let's go with someone like Christopher Abbott for Professor Charles Xavier. That's a perfect example of. I love Christopher Abbott as an actor. I know him from Girls. He was great in Girls. That is a. That's not a star. And I don't mean that in a bad way. I just mean in terms of Adam Driver is Adam Driver, so they kind of give him his moment to be Mr. Sinister, and that's the wow moment. So I'm like, oh, interesting. Professor X, to your point, it seems like they found who they think is the perfect person to portray him in this movie, but it's hard to feel wowed. And that's nothing against Abby. He's a phenomenal actor. Yeah. I mean, what do you guys think? Like, is this. Are we being ho-type? Is this bitch-ass shit? No. He's a bit of an unknown quantity for me. Like, obviously, I haven't seen Girls, but like. You've never seen Girls? No, I haven't seen Girls. I've seen a little bit of Girls. He's good in Girls. Okay. Okay. He's good in Girls. And that's great. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You two are the two most Girls-watching elders. motherfuckers ever like i would like girls how did y'all miss girls oh a little you know how did you know not young no i didn't i i don't know it was just a blind spot for me what up yeah okay because i like i was hearing all the great things about adam driver in that show and i was like oh okay like he's gonna be kylo ren that's where they got him um and yeah like to have that kind of an unknown quantity but to be real if i'm actually thinking back to it mcavoy wasn't exactly like the biggest known quantity like no no but no this is again my spot that's pre-wanted or like post-wanted post-wanted he was the most atonement and i'm like yeah he's a star but i'm like i don't know that like professor x is like a big character big role and we haven't seen him this is also a young professor i guess that's true that was at the beginning of the is this are they going straight to the beginning of the guys 40 they have to be not to be another not like not the all not the fucking what i mean well hold on now maybe they don't i think they're gonna have the school and the professor but it's not gonna they're not it's not like first class where they're out there in the um oh they learn how to do their powers yeah well okay so the movie comes out in two years she doesn't mean there's gonna be a two-year time jump though she just was killing people yeah well they came out people came out and said they she wasn't killing no one so she didn't kill a lot that's exactly what that nigga just got to as this nigga just got hit by a car and then like nothing that nigga did nah man it's okay because you know they got vibranium there so like his legs all good but i think like for that specifically there's gonna be a they're gonna restart the universe right so ultimately like all these characters they're good like there's gonna be a whole new timeline so we just got to make it up as we go i think so maya boyd is storm unknown name has uh has a lot of credits well not a lot but on broadway and that is another example of like marvel has found an actress that they're like we believe that not only she's right for the role but we can make her a star that was also interesting why why there might be a little bit of a low because people were thinking like lawson was was right right and you say maya boyd and we don't know who that is like legitimately unless you're my boy has 67 000 instagrams yeah i mean it's gonna be different by tomorrow she this is a they this is a this is a big big deal for her absolutely i'm not this is not a shot against of course like that young actress at all but you to your point this this is her first this is her first fucking thing yeah broadway to marvel yeah we like we're all learning about her at the same time and so when they say maya boyd i storm it's like oh i i don't know who that is congrats to her let's see let's see what happens how do you feel about uh india's rogue does it feel like a choice that is made from a place of strength or is it one of those hey yo we gotta do it man the streets i gotta see it man because like you don't like it you don't like it you don't like it man uh i'm looking at my boy it's like she's she's just she's been on broadway she's getting started this is a big deal for her absolutely happy for her yeah um i do like it i i think it's the one that uh the sadie sink one and the the the the uh the rogue one or the two ones that like okay that's those make sense those are the ones okay that's a hollywood thing sadie sink is jean gray she's the prominent redhead you know she's young cool but like i'm more interested in what y'all think about that keep throwing it back pause oh jesus yo just just come on man it's 12 30 just because these actors and actresses right are like these are the this is a y'all but so yeah it's what's interesting about never right is and this rarely happens with these superhero movies she kind of threw her hat and like her name in the ring we had seen videos of her talking to the director jake of um kind of her campaigning a little bit where it's like this is kind of for blank check moment where it's like if you're in a movie like succession you could kind of call obsession you could call your uh shot and it's like it's late succession it's late man it's late obsession see this is why you don't want the midnight boys at midnight no there this was a moment where i was like oh so foggy's like all right y'all niggas can stop complaining well i mean okay and then to that somebody was about to give her it someone was going to lock her in oh absolutely right like it was bound to happen like it was bound to happen like her real payment for that movie like as much as people were complaining that she got like 20 grand or whatever i'm like she's going to be in a gigantic thing in like five minutes like and that's going to be this we were we were laughing at it we were in the kitchen but like a lot of these guys we feel like a lot of uh rookie rookie scale contracts a lot of minimum contracts were getting handed out on that stage up there but guys this is the way marvel used to do it yeah literally this is how you got the adventures you get a hundred and fifty thousand and then you gotta go out and show and prove and then after a couple of movies you're an you're an unknown quality we just haven't we haven't done this with the x-men in so long because even in first class the class itself i mean you had zoe kravitz and some people in there jennifer lawrence was in there jennifer lawrence was in there nicholas holt nicholas holt was in there michael fastbender was in there yeah like uh you michael fastbender you had james mcavoy so you had people and then your villain was like kevin bacon was in the movie so you had about but after that you go straight to days of future past and then you get the whole fucking band back together so this is really interesting it it might make for a better movie than it did for d23 panel i think what it gives you is we get to fall in love with these x-men maybe before we fall in love with the actors besides a few what i'm interested though is like yo i kept telling y'all they're gonna do mr sinister they're gonna do mr sinister you're right yep adam driver is the fog he's like all right i still got a little bit of juice left i still can like when push comes to shove i can get an actor like adam driver who foggy has been honest has turned them down multiple times so that's also interesting what was it about either the character of mr sinister or the script or the direction that i don't like that driver was like i'm interested in this i think that sinister is probably a much more intricate care for character for him to play than magneto magneto let's say would seem like a safe choice next to mr sinister we haven't seen mr sinister up on screen yet so it can be something that can be his own and for a guy like him it was probably like a much a much more tantalizing kind of a prospect to play mr sinister i have no clue other than that but you could tell when he was talking about it that he was kind of into it yeah he looked like he and the guy looks like mr sinister he does right you you can you can see it so it's a slam duck like to bring it back to like the ricky scale thing that's the guy you get the max deal to be like hey we look we got adam driver mr sinister the rest of y'all y'all getting 250k 300 we got to pay him 10 mil to show up to set he was his star wars he was kylo ren for six years he the man he was always going to be the guy that's going to be like if no one if nothing else that we can bank on we can bank on adam driver being good because he goes big he's got gravitas he's got all of the things that make a fixture for the x-men to huddle around and unite against and i think that's a perfect fit for any villain that he was going to play with mr sinister really is the perfect fit so does this feel like our x-men team because what's been interesting is is we've gotten rumors that they're still doing the original five and that maybe rogue is in the x-men team and they're still doing the original five and they're in the movie obviously but not maybe as prominent i'm wondering why they've rolled out the cast like this has this cash rollout been a little haphazard where it's like original five they got emma frost in this bitch yeah we don't know if she's on the x-men she might not be on oh you're right she this is the thing i probably is i think kevin was like kind of specific in his wording where it's like this is the cast this is not yes team yeah and they're still finding people for the team so they're like angel and beast yeah ice man yeah we're still missing a few options like these are the people that are going to be in the movie right now because they're still working on it because like this is still getting thrown together really quickly but for something as important as the x-men i just i am wondering i'm like why did we learn about like cyclops early or emma frost early why it does not seem like this is a coordinated like hey this is going to be our big one of our biggest movies it doesn't feel like there's a lot of pomp and circumstance to it well we talked about this again we talked about this before we got on where you can't what you can't announce them at comic-con 2027 that's too late and this is the last time unless you do like a specific hey man we gonna come down to anaheim or come down to san diego or whatever uh unless it's here at d23 there's not really another place to do it right and so even though you don't have all the contracts signed yet you're like well we got to do it we got these six people got these seven people let's let it fly and then you know we'll see what happens in the trades later on but this was the only time before uh 2027 2027 that they could announce these guys the more we talk about this the more i'm starting to have so many more questions you guys would have you guys you guys are watching this and you're very excited you would have had to have been in a room to like feel the almost awkwardness that we all like we might have been just tired we might have been that because i mean we had to sit through what like uh the terrible terrible terrible terrible shit oh that was the best troll we had we had screens and they're red and i'm like okay it's like i'm like we're gonna do this like this is what you've been waiting for and then they go the greatest showman of music i was like all right shout out to everybody that was singing and dancing they killed it they did a great job it was great also man shout out to people who love disney because i felt like i loved disney before i went to d20 don't you don't steve's right i'm not nah i'm not like other niggas dude no niggas was standing up and applauding crazy for the ceo of disney what do we tell you like they look bro they're going crazy for the ceo of disney they they do this thing at d23 where they introduce somebody to introduce somebody to introduce somebody to introduce the thing that we're supposed to watch yeah we introduce anne hathaway when she got one of the biggest anne hathaway and uh catherine hahn got the two biggest pops of the night right yeah two biggest pops of the night once again marvel marvel's whole thing even the doomsday stuff they had we should might as well talk about it they had chris evans downy downy right haley atwell haley and so haley atwell was out there and there was a point where they did a cute little video with hugh jackman where we thought that he might say that wolverine is in the movie and ryan reynolds was also he wasn't in it but the voice was and i think that that was their wink wink way of teasing like wolverine and deadpool are gonna be in the movie but they wouldn't say it you gotta leave something on the yeah but it's it's just weird and awkward to just like like so so that stuff felt like they they shot their wild with doomsday at hall h right you didn't really need any more doomsday i guess they did but just the whole thing together the marvel stuff man i don't want to be a dick they they it's it felt kind of stale it's so weird because when we went to d23 two years ago and they had out uh they started with a brave new world yeah and then i think moana moana and then a couple things about thunderbolts d23 really does feel like a bit of an away game for marvel like it's not like hall h yeah because they're disney fans in that room and again like they're excited about marvel but they're not the most excited this is going up for bluey the movie the balloons up bro camp rock three insane hey man they brought the jonas brothers out there i was disgusting i was like show me when jonas brothers came out i was like he was jumping on it bro bro do you know and all of d23 do you know who had the best panel thing to me it was pixar yeah like pixar brought the hits kingdom hearts is fucking back fuck yeah we can't like fucking with the new show the incredibles is coming out yeah they got like the night market one was funny for the night market the cartoon ghost market coco 2 coco 2 uh gato the the cat movie the godfather the gap cat movie that looks interesting but the d23 thing is like specifically for this show so obviously like they like have pixar they have uh there was like oswald with john favreau nagio all that they do marvel and we're thinking this has got to be that this guy's a capper this night they followed up with with lucasfilm right which i thought was weird the headline yeah but the real headliner was uh walt disney animation zootopia frozen that's the bread now that's where the money is coming from yeah it's those those animated animated films i have to be honest guys i kind of fuck with what i was seeing from starfighter though oh i can't no let's get into it i was like oh for real man nah okay wow i thought i thought it okay really yeah it's probably just the star wars wait because all right this is let's have to say it's because maybe this was just because how they rolled it out they showed some ahsoka shit i was like oh no wonder y'all dumping this january dog i told ron ron ain't never let look less imposing bro it's tough i couldn't as you couldn't get there is they love hayden though they love hayden they do they do love hayden but here's the thing once again i love hayden christensen i will be watching because i'm like damn hayden like that's anakin but the rest of that shit ezra they brought your girl back shinhani right yeah look there we had issues with season one you can go back and listen right you get a season two maybe you fix those maybe you sit off the edges maybe you get some good the january thing is tough yeah that's where that's where everything goes to die you dump it in january you're like good luck hopefully finds audience maybe not it didn't feel like they believed in ahsoka i know dave filoni definitely does it's not a binge drop though so that's good well if it's not a binge then they're not dumping it they're only dumped you can you can only dump a binge yeah january like it's you're not wrong i mean look it's like i this was between the marvel and the lucasfilm lucasfilm panels it they had all the people out there in terms of like the stars they had the projects no motion they didn't have emotions starfighter it maybe i have to see the the trailer again but it it looked really hokey i'm not gonna lie it's just like ryan reynolds and the kids and jets go fast you keep saying ryan reynolds it's late ryan gosling where's the starfighting i would like to see some i would like to see they're probably gonna say that for the second or third trailer that's that's that's what i want to see all right so but i was even if the room wasn't as allowed for it the vision quest trailer did that that looks really nice it looked good come on it looked inventive it looked let's say a couple of things about that i'm glad you brought that up it it looked inventive it also looked like something else that marvel hasn't had or doesn't have with a lot of other properties right now it looked like something with a bunch of baked in intrigue and real character work that they can follow up on not trying to invent almost a new lord with doomsday right um but in this you legitimately want to know like what's going to happen with vision yeah because you're like you've watched between multiverse of madness agatha all along wanda vision you've seen all of this stuff happen to this family and so when it says the conclusion of the trilogy i guess agatha all along it's yeah vision agatha all along in vision quest really feels like something that actually matters yeah and i think that's like you i'm really glad you said that because like we want to vision this pandemic we lock him we're like oh this is really this is fantastic around a good time they like agatha all along coming out we like man we not right you was like we're not rocking with agatha all along and the people who actually watched it we were like not only pleasantly surprised but legitimately impressed at what they pulled off in those episodes it's a fantastic show so when you're like yo we're gonna finish the trilogy sign me up i'm there but now that they're feeling it feels like vision quest is also the end of a certain version of marvel because i agree i'll be real the way kempify keeps talking about these television shows it's a little bit like all right be happy while you have them let me use it on stage like uh yeah man we're gonna get to the real stuff first but uh here's the here's the tv shows all right back to the real like yeah the one this is the second time after san diego comic he has kind of brushed past the tv stuff i mean beyond vision question what's in their tv future are they doing their devil they're they're seriously backpedaling the tv the novus the nova thing is not what is the nova i don't think that's gonna happen i mean that's yeah i don't think that's gonna happen either right um look i thought i like what i like about the tv stuff is when they get super episodic and weird it seems like they could do that more on tv than they can in the movies absolutely yeah they get like a like really really weird and it feels like that they have james spader as ultron but in the humanoid humanoid avatar form yeah vision's dad another family drama set in that world i think it's all of the from what i've read it's all of the ai that we've seen like edith um friday friday uh jarvis jarvis they got the original they got the actor from agent carter shot yeah i saw that yeah that's the man as jarvis as jarvis yes sir as jarvis so leaving leaving this conversation how do you feel marvel did do you feel like they are on solid footing because there is how we feel in d23 and then there are people who are super excited to see the doomsday trailer and they're getting adam driver and they're getting some x-men if we take kind of like being out of the room out of the equation do you feel like marvel is on solid ground so i'll i'll this is what i'll say this is probably the best it could have been the x-men release it so We didn't talk about the fact that everyone wanted Jamie Lawson to be Storm and she was not Storm. If Jamie Lawson would have walked out there, this is not in any way a dig at Maya Boyd. I'm excited for her. Yes. But if Jamie Lawson would have walked out there off centers, it probably would have brought a little bit more of the house down, right? Yeah. Right. They have to cast that movie the way they want to cast that bitch. Yes. They have to cast that movie with the actors that they feel like are going to grow into those roles the best. So it's not Storm, Angela Bassett, Professor X, Denzel Washington. You know what I mean? It's not. So that's the old ad. I will say I miss her, Storm. So I thought they said Momo Boyd. And I'm like, the singer with Baby Keem. That would be hard. That would be hard if it was Momo Boyd. I thought it was somebody in Infinity Song because it's a family band. So I was like, is that them? I thought Baby Keem was going to walk out. Baby Keem is a bishop. Hey, bro. Baby Keem is a beast. Come on, man. Bro, I like them niggas. I like Infinity Song, bro. I like a black family band. But no, but so, yeah, this entire thing for us, like, let's be honest. Had they not brought the X-Men out, we probably wouldn't even be partying right now. Nah. Absolutely not. This entire thing was about the X-Men and the X-Men thing was kind of uneven. So there you have it. No, it's, I think, I'm really interested in how the internet is going to take. They already don't like, they already, yeah, they're not, right. I see it split down the middle. Some are like, hell, what are they saying? It's like half and half. Some of them are like, let's go, man. I'll be there day one. I love it. And the other half are like, who cashed this as rogue? They go. This is crazy. Wait, never it? Yes, they're against that. It's not as, I thought it would have been a universal. I thought that would be the one that they would be like the most high. Oh, I've been seeing jokes. They are frying. Tough for Kelly's painting, man. I mean, like, again. Hey, yo, I saw, I saw the booty pic. I didn't know Kaylee had it like that. We don't need her shit going crazy. All of that is not a rogue fake. Come on, man. That's the, rogue not just booty, bro. Come on. Rogue is mostly booty. But that's, can I say something about her, though? That's a crazy quote. Can I say something about her? She's 28. Who? Spanning. Yeah. And also, Jamie Lawson is 28. These are young people. Yeah. I'm 46 years old. These are young people, right? Young people. However, besides Emma Frost, who to your point is definitely probably going to be, it did seem like they were going for X-Men who are a little bit younger. There's only four years between. How old is Sadie Sink? She's probably like 23. Okay, so yeah. She's quite young. Because when you look at them all in the picture, these are baby faces. They look young. And it seems, like I said, like the Tom Holland thing where they are trying to cast people who if they're trying to go to a more first class high school, because we being real, the first class niggas look like they was in their 30s. They did. I miss the day. I miss the days when teenagers can be 30 years old. They look like they was from Dawson's Creek. Now, but to your point, though, these kids look like teenagers. Now, I'll say something. There's a risk there. When you first do the X-Men, the X-Men come out is Jackman, Halle Berry, Famke Jansen, all of those. James Marsden. James Marsden. Yeah. This movie could end up feeling like some YA bullshit. It could easily. Second season of Last of Us. Percy Jackson and the X-Men. No, not Percy Jackson. Wait, wait, wait. I'll brag you about it up. Remember the first time we saw that dude? And he was the little man. He was a little baby. Nah, he looked like the Avatar. He was up there. That nigga on HGH. That nigga Percy Jackson going crazy. He was up there like this. That nigga Percy Jackson came out there. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Body by both legs. But it was so funny because they had him on the CW sets. But that nigga. That nigga fucking swole, bro. Good for him. That nigga, he was up there. Hey, yeah, man. I'm Percy Jackson, this bitch. I headlocked the shit out you, you bitch ass nigga. It's like, I'm like, God damn, what the fuck? Isn't it funny how these kids grow? They grow. Remember the fucking Stranger Kids? Yeah. They were little babies. And then all of a sudden, all of them was nine feet tall. They fucking each other and shit. Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. Didn't they start fucking? I don't know that. I don't know that. Drake was too busy. And what's their faces? All right, don't stop that. Oh, my God. Yo, hey. Hey. I forgot about that. Yeah. People don't forget. Sick shit going on in this world, bro. Hey, wait. We don't. I'm not saying nothing, bro. I don't think that that was happening, but be careful. You see how this looks. People. I'm not saying that was happening. That wasn't happening. The Doomsday trailer that we saw at Hall H Comic Con came out. That was the same trailer. Right? So everybody, if you're listening. You just saw the Hall H trailer. You've seen the Hall H trailer. Charles, what do you think? Hey, because I'll be real, y'all, because I try to be the bigger man. The Gambit shit, y'all was right. I was tripping. He is in the top 25. We will talk about that later. Seeing that on the IMAX screen, seeing a new trailer, I'm doubling down. Oh. AI slop. Oh, AI. Okay, all right. Don't say AI slop. AI slop. Come on, man. Let's not do that. People put hard work into that, man. Not a CGI. Not CGI-ing. No, man. That's not. No. It's probably not final yet. I think it's great. AI slop is fucking hilarious. I think it's great. I am more interested in the seven minutes that they have in game. Encore? Yeah. Yeah. Like, I'm so glad they didn't show that fucking trailer. We don't need to see a fucking trailer. No, thank God. The more and more, after seeing the trailer that just came out for Doomsday, I truly do believe they are only showing, like, five seconds. Like, the first five seconds of this movie. Because they keep wink-winking, like, oh, there was a Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds stuff today. Yeah. I saw online that people are saying they can hear Tobey Maguire's voice. Oh, he's definitely in the movie. Yeah. So, I'm like, why are they being so cute hiding the ball? Yeah. To be honest, with a bunch of niggas I don't care about. I mean, he's definitely in the movie. Like, he's definitely in the movie. And a lot of those. You know what would be interesting about this movie, more than anything, is with the incursions and characters fighting and meeting their demise. Like, what happens if Tobey's entire world dies? Yeah. It's got to be pruned. Yeah. So, like, so if Tobey Maguire's whole world, that's the thing that I think people are underestimating about the movie. Which is, if Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man is in the movie, then, and he is, I don't know, his world has to go. His world has to go. His world is definitely going. Right? So, like, people think that they won't be able to connect to the movie. But if Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man is in there, and Kirsten Dunst, Kirsten Dunst, MJ, and all of these people, and that entire world is pruned, I think you're going to feel something. Oh, for sure. But is that, are we going to stay on Tobey's world for 20 minutes? Or is it, like, they giving us five? Because I think there's a big difference. Because a lot of people are saying, like, Kelsey Grammer ain't going to be jumping around like Beast all throughout this movie. You know? Like, Professor X and Magneto. I mean, the X-Men are getting slimed out in the first 10 minutes. I will also say, now remembering, I did want to bring this up in X-Men 97. I really hope, if I can you fix this, I'd never want to see Charles Xavier fall out of his wheelchair again. That was brutal. Like, ever again. That was brutal. Like, we got to stop it. Why? Why you say that? Before he fall out that bitch. It feels like elder abuse at this point. Yeah. That nigga not that old. Yeah, he, the ball head makes him, the ball head does it. Who is Patrick Stewart? Xavier, oh, he, that nigga old. Oh, Patrick Stewart is old. But Xavier, so Xavier in the, Xavier in X-Men 97, he probably, like, in his 50s. He's still been here. He's still hitting hoes. Yeah, but this, but this Charles Xavier. More your, more your, uh, McTaggart, She-Ra? More McTaggart? What was, what was the lady from the She-R? Oh, Laundry? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's not, I guess you can still hit hoes in your 60s. It would have been, it would have been crazy if they let Patrick Stewart really, really run through the MCU like that. Yeah. Out of expression. So he's in his 80s now, so I guess he was in his 60s when that shit first dropped. Why don't they give us old Professor X and Magneto anymore? Why are they always giving us sexy Professor X, sexy Magneto? Because they don't want to do it no more. They, they, they giving us, like, this, the question is, in this one, will this nigga be running around? Because I don't need, because he. You don't want to see your Professor X walk. He should start in a wheelchair. Start in the wheelchair. I disagree. Wait, no, actually, I don't, because we can't get the repeat of the, of the shot of the line for class. I don't need to see that. No, but here's, because, what I'm worried is, because Abbott is closer in age to these X-Men, you know, if you read those early X-Men comics, Professor X. Freaky bastard. Was. Oh yeah. He was a nasty man. You need to put him on, uh, to catch a predator. Freaky bastard. he was thirsting after gene gray a little bit yeah he's the whole time right i mean he collected a bunch of children and put them in a school that's bad oh you see how this looks shit bro you know what's interesting people were people leaving westchester people have been saying that's crazy people saying this online like you could have you really could have cast michael fassbender and jace mcavoy as magneto and as professor x respectively for this universe and then fine right now they would have been they would have been the right age for now you gotta i'm not saying they should you gotta break clean i'll tell you what man i i there's a tweet that i tweeted before i saw uh i think dark phoenix where i was like go to the movies michael fassbender is gonna go crazy and act circles around everybody and i'm gonna enjoy the movie because he did that for forest trade movies first class days features past apocalypse dark phoenix mvp that whole thing he was the man you could go there you pay at that time like twelve dollars to go to the amc at delamo and just be like wowed by his performances with nito it's sad we don't have that anymore but he was that guy in those movies who who who uh who's your magneto fassbender and mccullough i think it kind of has to be mckellen it's got to be mckellen but yeah it has to be mckellen but fassbender killed it fassbender was excellent he was truly truly oh chiles why do you come here that one that one that one line what the somebody's like you my nigga josh what's up chiles why do you want my magneto playing chess again i love every single time but they do that every time it's so great every time no but in the original x-men when they had him in the floating that nigga was so cold when they end up playing chess and xavier and he doesn't have his helmet on why doesn't xavier just like go into his mind and make him nice nah he can't do that he can't do that first of all that's his boy and he don't want to yeah he don't want to do that to his honor in that yeah you gotta like do it right so my last question for y'all is if in days obviously the pandering like hey y'all we just had to do it you got to respect the game what would be feige's like what would be the next actor cast that could be a like oh um she's she got a rogue ass look bro who indy navarrete bro no no i'm not yeah no i'm not it does it does you're not wrong she do got her she got a role no no she might be a phenomenal rogue that's nothing against her it's more so i'm like yeah feige just he knows which way the wind is blowing he's right hey yo teens you loved you loved obsession would you love this shit too it's gotta be magneto right because yeah but who would be the the actor cast as magneto where we were like all right we're gonna shut up and see the movie i mean i think lee pace what really was that guy he's still he's old though right yeah how old is lee pace no he's in his 50s you need someone abbott's age how does that house like uh mid 40s oh you know who it would be it would be if they if if pattinson was magneto oh fuck yeah no we can't have that with that man you can't do that you can't do that do it bro i mean that that's too good now you put that in my head it's gonna be ruined for me now yeah that's all that's all i want now dang now you want to know and we get into here you want to know who i want my magneto to be john david washington shallabay yeah imagine paul and trady's walking around no now hold on now maybe not magneto but nightcrawler walk with me all right morph walk with me i can more calm down come on man i don't man you gotta you gotta get somebody abbott's age as i'm trying to think who's um not um uncle owen from uh from star wars from not the original joel edgerton joel edgerton not bad good also they're saying i think this would be good cats and they're trying to dreamcast uh hunter schaefer as mystique as mystique that's good i think hunter schaefer would kill it that's good again there's more uh there's more cats being announced we should see how they do that because again like d23 was the spot and so now i guess there's gonna be a whole bunch of uh hollywood hollywood reporter deadline variety stuff where we just like this character's been cast as this for the next like couple of couple of months i mean honestly so it's coming out in 28 yeah yeah they got about four and a half years old i don't know i don't know i don't know five months so when they gotta start shooting yeah yeah they they they gotta they gotta start shooting i mean we'll know more story-wise when this wait a minute when this when the secret wars come out it's supposed to come out next same time next year that doomsday is coming out but god that's 2027 yeah december 2027 have they started shooting that shit i don't think so i would assume that they were shooting it at least relatively back to back would they because they did that with event with endgame and infinity war there's a lot more going i have no clue i have no clue but the only reason why i say that is because you need those storylines finished before you can bring the x-men in right 100 so no but the x-men script already has to be written though oh for sure yeah so what difference do we really make yeah well you know i'll tell you this this was my uh first honda center d23 thing we went to d23 before but that was the first time i've ever seen a honda center d23 thing i've ever seen a honda center different okay when i when we went before i don't remember them having like camp rock three out in that bitch and shit wait we never went to d20 yeah no you didn't start with celebration no i went to d23 too you did no we did went to d23 too because we they that was when they debuted the the thunderbolts thunderbolts oh yeah was that at the convention center that was at the convention that was okay yes yes yes so they weren't doing it at the honda center yeah that's because that's they gave us the glasses so we could we could watch the way out here's the thing the marvel i will be honest dog the marvel just reaction that year was way better like the audience was way they also did fantastic four they they they had matt shackman out there fantastic four they did fantastic four i'll tell you something this shit here was like the stark expo in iron man 2 when justin hammer showed up that's my nigga i love justin hammer like like sam rockwell is my that's my nigga right there fucking rules that that's what another reason why um uh obviously i want to see don get busy game that's also another reason why i'm pissed off about armor wars we never got to see sam rockwell again the hammer is my god hammer came out there going crazy um but but like that's what that was and like you can have that you can have that bitch i'm not gonna lie hey once i saw motherfuckers just tomorrow ceo dizzy hold on i get it it wasn't even close i'll say this we appreciate disney thank you for uh all the all the stuff this is why they don't want to listen to hall h we're gonna be fucking like like trying to figure out how we get that bitch again next we appreciate disney and everything it's just you know it was a lot of shit bruh hey once they started salsa dancing for 15 minutes i was like all right they had fucking dancers in that house and i was like i'm gonna be like i'm gonna be like i'm gonna be like i'm gonna be they had fucking you know they had romey michelle for romey michelle's high school reunion and that bitch i'm with you was in the building i'm with it shout out to everybody involved man was going through it it's like look at the phone and then look at me and look next to me like this ain't got nothing to do with disney man honda center man step y'all fucking chicken to this game what the fuck bro you got fucked up chicken i bruh that's not what the man fuck that charles when i saw charles charles had a burger charles was fucking that burger all right i was i was hungry yeah i go get some chicken tenders i come back man step your shit up bro you can eat some of that chicken right there oh yeah how y'all like our new set new set hey i'm putting the chicken that put the chicken waves right on the tables i wasn't gonna bring it up but it was the first thing i saw it's gotta be honest i don't i don't know fried chicken for niggas i don't know i don't know i don't know man it's that's that's tough they saw us in vanity fair they like give some chicken we the first ringer podcast in the history of the ringer to have fried chicken on set on as as a as a it's gravy though they we know they don't mean nothing but they did it yeah it's like the ninja turtles are here the ninja turtles don't be eating no fried chicken turtles got i ain't never seen a ninja i ain't never seen them with no fry the ninja turtles got you want no one makes it worse that shit look it actually looks really good it's crispy bro it's fake too it looks really good hey i just want to let y'all know don't get us in trouble Nobody told them to put the fried chicken on it. hey it's gravy everybody they were just like you know what bro let's put it there i say this man a lot of people were super hard no this is amazing it's really really cool there's a lot of detail back here we got the wigs we got uh the wigs and all that it's all cool man this is phenomenal this is great ringer verse uh ringer quest coming at you pretty soon next ringer quest is crazy you guys gotta watch it and then somebody went put the fried chicken in that anyway all right um you guys we got did we did we hit it off we did it yeah i think we did i think we nailed it all x-men uh vision quest doomsday trailer starfighter we i think we got it uh before we get out of here i do want to say something charles we might have a really special guest that wants to come in and do a very special podcast that we're thinking about doing we might have a really special guest that wants to come in and do a very special podcast what did you what podcast did you guys say you wanted to do x-men yeah oh the top 25 x-men we're we're gonna do a definitive ranking of the top 25 x-men and there might be actual royalty we've already had royalty if this actually happens if this happens can't nobody tell us shit yeah yeah yeah i realized motherfuckers ron forget but god they they really did bro some of the people there were people that agreed with you i mean like something the dude that's helping us get this guy he agreed with you to a degree he said 25 is nuts but he didn't he didn't have him top 15 see top 15 is rough when you list it out i think he's seven seven seven wait fellas we spoiled a pot yeah we spoiled it let's save it let's save it yeah all right we're ready to go yeah we're out of here take the cash off oh shit that was genuine we signed off like it was high alert all right chuck take us out all right dj 23 was a lot enjoy all the trailers that are grainy and i'm really really sorry for what happened to you kaylee spain guys it is literally almost 1 a.m this wouldn't be possible without so many people but thank you for real thank you right there thank you jacob yes jacob thank you man let's go