462: Would You Eat a Pokémon?

You're listening to an AirWave Media Podcast. [MUSIC] >> Recorded in Chicago, Illinois with your hosts, Ken, Matt Neal, and Jeff. This is Triviality. [MUSIC] >> Hello, and welcome to Triviality, the Game War Lack of Seriousness meets a little bit of knowledge back in the studio for this marathon with my friend Jeff. >> And no Neal and no Matt, but just my friend Jeff. >> How are you Ken? How's it going? >> I'm doing very well. >> Yeah. >> Do you feel cleansed without the riff riff here? >> I miss the riff and the riff. >> Just riff, but not riff. >> I miss, I miss riff. >> Who would be riff and who would be riff? >> That's not for the audience that decided. >> I think Matt is riff. >> I'm not, I'm not. >> No comment. >> I'm not making any, yeah, no statement. >> Just a little too rough. >> Well, we're happy to be back. Like we said, we were on a little break. Today's our first recording day back, and we're super excited. And we have another exciting pub style game today, which means there are no rules, no holds barred. >> We always say that, and then we end up having some kind of structure. >> Well, structure, but no rules, right? We're renegades. And today helping us out. Well, let's start with our host, shall we? It's Lydia Dagestino. She's a rules guy impersonator. We appreciate that. Coming to us from Massachusetts. Welcome back to the show. >> Thank you so much. Happy to be back. >> Yeah, always a pleasure to have you. Why don't you remind our listeners a little bit about yourself? >> Sure. So like you said, I'm here coming to you from snowy, snowy Massachusetts. I am an infectious diseases pharmacist. And that's -- >> Tasty. >> That's really all that's exciting about me, I guess. >> Oh, I'm sure that's a true. But -- >> It is. >> Oh, I guess it's very -- I find it very interesting. >> What's the -- what's the -- I guess, line of demarcation between a standard pharmacist and an infectious disease pharmacist? >> So I would say, you know, we all get the same baseline training, but then I had to do some more advanced extra training specifically in the infectious diseases field. >> Okay. So specializing in antibiotics, antiviral medicines, and things like that. >> You bet. >> Okay, interesting. Well, glad to have you with us again. You're going to be providing the Pub/South questions today. And happy to have you. Also, we have Kristen Pilot. She's from the DMV area, as she said. Not the DMV that you're thinking of, hopefully, but the DC Maryland Virginia area, currently in Maryland, correct? >> That is right. I live in Virginia, but I've been living at my mom's house for almost a year now. So, what is she's in Maryland? >> Well, tell us a little bit about yourself. >> I am an engineer, and I'm living in Virginia. As I said, it's funny. You brought up riffraff because I have three cats, one of whom is named riffraff. He's the one that is physically in the room with me right now, although he's farther away sleeping. >> We couldn't have known that. >> That is quite a coincidence. >> I mean, I was just like, wow, that's crazy. >> riffraff does not come up in conversation very much. I guess it's a- >> It might house it does, but- >> Is it a rocky horror thing? >> No, actually, him and his brother Rubble were both found in a dumpster. They are the trash boys. >> That's cute. >> Well, I love that. I love that you're here with us today. And excited to get this game started. There are no rules, so we don't need them. Let's get started. >> All right. Sounds good. So, I will say this does lean a little pop culture heavy, so I'm sorry, you don't have your pop culture expert with you today. And all of the questions were loosely inspired by my dog's toys, which are just littered all over my house constantly. >> That's exactly what I like to have a dog of all the ways to theme a game. This is one of my favorites. >> Well, thank you. >> It was like, what the hell do I write questions about this? >> We call it redecorating. >> Right. >> One of my triplets or something when I'm, yeah. >> Why does the door not open any? >> It's a bit more spoiled. >> All right. So let's jump in. So for question one, we'll start with a general question. In addition to telling the world about your honor roll student, your rescue dog, how many miles you've run, and what your family looks like in stick figure form, bumper stickers are commonly used in support of political candidates. The first example of this use is credited to the campaign of what American president. It may have helped that he had a relatively short slogan. >> Probably not typical new and Tyler too. >> I don't think there were many bumpers. >> They just stick the sticker right on the more suggest. >> Right. What do they use as the stick figure? I don't want to know. >> I mean, if you want to talk about a horse's ass, mix in 72. >> I mean, that could be. You said a short slogan or a short name? >> Short slogan. >> Short slogan. >> I was thinking I like Ike, but. >> Yeah, I like Ike. >> That's when everybody started getting all their suburban cars, you know, the white people. >> So I will say that where I live is the bumper sticker around, or the where I'm currently living, not where I live. The bumper sticker is choose civility in Columbia. >> Uh-huh. >> So I don't know that a lot of people do actually choose civility, but anybody who's from here will know that. >> There's car tell us the material. >> Definitely not on the road. >> Well, I like Ike. I think that's a great slogan. >> I kind of remember it being on buttons. So I wouldn't it be on bumper stickers. >> Yeah. >> And that's correct. Yeah. So President Eisenhower. >> So the hint, I forgot to mention the categories do have hints and the hint in that one was general as he was famously. >> Uh-huh. >> Well, we got it regardless. >> Yes, you did. >> Don't expect me to pick up on hints. >> Some of them are pretty obvious and others not so much. So. So for question number two, the silence of the birds. One of nature's fascinating displays, a murmuration, is a phenomenon involving spinning, swooping, and swirling as a group to create massive shapes in the sky. This behavior is most associated with what bird? >> Ooh. I knew all that about birds except for what kind of bird does this. >> Can you picture like the big flock sort of swooping through the sky together? >> Do you know how are you with birds, Kristen? >> I play a lot of wingspan, but that's not helping me. I was right there at the silence part if there was something for that, like a bird that's notoriously quiet or something. >> Oh. Silence of the lambs, uh, Starling? >> Uh, the lambs, the lambs. >> You listened to the clue. See, I told you I wouldn't listen to the clues. >> You did it. >> Starlings. >> I like it. >> Yes, exactly. And exactly what that hint was referring to. >> See, it takes a team. It takes a team to bring it all together. It takes someone who pays attention and can. >> Not that man. >> I wasn't going to say that, but I was implying it heavily. >> All right. Question three, an out of this world flop on a sesame seed bun. In addition to being a blatant ripoff of a different 80s movie, and essentially a long form commercial for McDonald's, what movie also gifted us with an uncredited appearance by a young Jennifer Aniston and a long-running late-night gag between Paul Rudd and Conan O'Brien? >> Oh, I love this one. Jennifer Aniston wasn't that? >> Mm-hmm. >> There's a big group dance scene and she is one of the dancers. >> So do you guys know about this, this Paul Rudd bit with Conan? >> So he keeps going on Conan O'Brien, promoting different movies, and he'll like set up the clip that they're about to show. But he always brings the same clip from this old movie, and plays it on Conan O'Brien. And the clip is of a boy in a wheelchair rolling down the hill and falling off the cliff. >> And it's from a movie called Mac and Me. >> Oh my gosh. I remember that movie. >> And there's also a good mystery science theater for the Netflix reboot where they did Mac and Me as well. >> Wow. I would never want to go in there, but that's hilarious. I remember liking that movie. >> So it's a terrible movie, but it was my favorite movie when I was little because I was too afraid of ET. So I watched Mac and Me all the time. >> Was it Mac's scare than ET? >> I guess he doesn't like it. >> I mean, nearly croak, right? >> Yeah, I mean to an adult, I am more terrified of Mac, but ET scared the childhood. >> ET is not scary, but the themes of ET are a little scary. >> It's a little darker. >> Where he's like in the isolation chamber and he's like shriveling up and stuff. I didn't care for that either. >> I like my aliens to look less scro-dol. >> The less scro-dol, the better. >> It's not a bad idea as well, right? >> What about small-ish-a-ball-chinians from the men in black? >> You don't like the ball-chinians? >> All right. I said what I said. >> Stand by it. >> Okay, question four. They couldn't find their way to the trophy. As of the 2025 season, there are five unlucky MLB teams that have never won a World Series, but which of these teams has the unfortunate distinction of being the only one of the five to never even appear in a World Series? >> All right, a team that's not good. Who do I think of? >> I don't think, as I always think the Mariners made it, but I don't think they ever did, because I know Kanger-Fied Jr. was great. But what I think of. When I think of terrible teams, I think of the Padres. Padres. Pirates won a bunch back in the day. Honest Wagner was a pirate, like 100 years ago. So the Padres would be like the last team I think of when I think of. Which is why I think it's because they suck. Kristen, are you a big baseball fan? I am, but I'm more of an East Coaster, so I follow the Red Sox, which is not how am the nationals and the Orioles all of them have been in the World Series. Yeah, and they have been all won them too. All right, well, I think we got a good line. Well, hang on. So the clue was couldn't hit his way out of something. I just they couldn't find their way to the trophy. Couldn't find their way to the trophy. Does anything with either the Mariners or the Podges? Padre. I mean, the Mariners isn't their logo. The Romantic Ancient Mariners. It could be a compass. I don't know. So you go Mariners? So we trust Kristen's clue-finding instinct? I am. It's a coin flip for me. So I'll go. Let's go Mariners. All right, Mariners is correct. Kristen, the second time you've saved us. I'm not going to lie. I had no idea what their logo was, but a Mariner is a seed navigator, right? I guess it makes sense that that would be their logo. We need Kristen today. This was a real team effort because I could not for the life of me. I was like, "Podre's, I guess. I forgot about the Mariners entirely," which probably tells you something. All right, so question five. There is not a hint in this question or in this category, rather, but we're going to play around my favorite game, "Drugger Pokemon." Oh, I love this game. So how many of the following lists are drugs? We, G-odon, Lucario, Maverite, Espionne, and Volterran. I think two of those. Well, so Lucario's a Pokemon. Espionne's a Pokemon. Volterran is definitely a drug, and I didn't hear the other two enough to hear either way. G-odon and Maverite. Maverite. I think Maverite and that other one that you said are the drugs. I think two out of the five. G-odon or really? No, because Volterran's also a drug, because that would be three. Okay. No, that's what I'm saying. So there's G-odon. We're not saying G-odon, right? We're saying that's Pokemon. Unless it's a really new one. I mean, I've played all the Pokemon games a lot. Yeah, what you're going to default to? What's the thing? All right, we'll say three then. Oh, I'm sorry, you guys are wrong. I feel bad. I would say two. The points don't matter. Okay, I know. You stick with your original. Okay, it's three. I'm going to go three. We didn't change our minds. No, of course not. So those three are, you listed them correctly. So G-odon, which is an anti-psychotic maverite, which is for hepatitis C and Volterran, which is an anti-inflammatory. All right. But I will say I know a lot about drugs, but not a lot about Pokemon. And I am terrible at that. I can't keep the two straight. Ironically, I've had an infectious disease doctor had infectious disease medication shift to me multiple times. Now, Kristen, if you had to eat a Pokemon, the question I've been upset with, would you go with a more food-like Pokemon, or would you go for the experience? Would you go for the novel experience, I need Mr. Mime, or would you be like, I'm going to have a victory bell salad. Okay, so I don't think I could go for one that was humanoidish, right? Mr. Mime is humanoidish. Cannot do that. I don't think you're like biting into rocks either. Like all of a sudden it's like, I don't think you're, but like a kangaroo's kind of like people have had kangaroo. And I was showing I've had kangaroo jerky. So. You have to have a kangaroo. I mean, there's like an ice cream Pokemon. But would you go with something like that, or would you, would you eat something more scary? Can I be honest with you? I have to think that there's something worth trying in Trubbish, or Carbidore. They can't actually taste like garbage, right? I know that garbage Pokemon. Tag. Right, that is a horrible, horrible assessment, Jeff. They got to have to have the question. They got to have flesh, right? Oh, I don't want to think about their flesh. So, no. I mean, like, can you eat a ghost Pokemon? Jeff spends most of his day. Could I eat a long-term? Jeff spends most of his day thinking about flesh. Let's be honest. Yeah. And also, now I'm really curious. So, like, what do you think would be the tastiest? I think it, I think it EV might be pretty tasty. I want to eat the Mr. Mime. Anyway, is there any that are like, there's like a deer one that's from like a new, like a deerling? Yep. Yeah, that one's probably pretty good. You're a sick man, Jeff. You're a sick man and then now we don't want. There's plenty of birds. There are cow-like Pokemon. There's one that's just literally ice cream. Okay, but like, and he's saying this. He's a sick man. That's vanilla. That's vanilla. Well, I'm not, no. I think I, could I slurp a ditto? You just like weird stuff, man. Like, I'm not gonna. He's a sick man. I'm gonna yuck your yum, but that's a very fun phrase. And then I know we're five questions and we're perfect so far, so five, five, five billion points. All right, question six. Chock full. Costco is one of the largest retailers in America and well-known for selling items in bulk. You may know that the overall best-selling item at Costco is toilet paper, but it may surprise you that Costco alone is responsible for 50% of the global sales of what food item. This is accomplished in part through close relationships with farmers in Africa, though selling them in 40 ounce bags certainly does it hurt. 40 ounce bags. It's gotta be coffee. That's what I was thinking too. I just bought a big bag of coffee from that. But also, Chock full. It's like Chock full nuts or Chock full of nuts. I don't know. It's there's a brand of coffee. Are you, are you in on the Costco now? No, I just want my family. Nice. I don't have my own card. They have a. I can't justify it just for myself. I get that. I agree. That's where I'm at too. Collective, they're selling Collective O right now at our local one in a nice, nice size bag. So, we like coffee. I like coffee. All right. I love coffee. So, Chock full was in fact a reference to nuts. This is actually cashews. Oh. Wow. Sorry guys, I let us totally draw that. You know what? I buy a lot of nuts from Costco because their walnuts are great and they're like way cheaper than most of the stores. I was just bought a big bag of pecans. Yeah, you can't go wrong with nuts at Costco. So, we were a 40 ounce bag of cashews right off screen here. We've had. We've had balls of head nuts. Where else are we going to go here? Well, we missed that one, but hopefully we get back on track with number seven. All right. Question seven. Everyone's a winner. Dr. Robert Huzenga is famous for quite a few things, being the NFL physician with the at the time Oakland Raiders, writing the book The Movie Any Given Sunday is based on, and serving as a medical expert in the original OJ Simpson trial. But he's probably best known to most of America as the physician for what popular reality TV show. Who's this? What's the name? Robert Huzenga. Is he like the on staff doctor for survivors or something? Maybe. There's a sports doctor. So. Yeah, I was hearing someone else because I think Wayne Huzenga, was a Chicago like businessman who I think he owned up like the dolphins for a while. But I don't know for sure, but I would guess that they have to have somebody pretty knowledgeable on sports medicine and also knowledgeable in general for survivor, don't you think? I like that, I guess. Maybe you know, we maybe had some cameos when everybody passes out and gets injured and stuff during the game. Is that happened on survivor? I didn't know. Let's say survivor. So I've also never watched survivor, so I don't know how prominent their physician is, but this is actually the doctor from the biggest loser. Oh. Oh, that means so. I've never watched a show. Yeah, you'd be more prominent in, I would think that show. Ironically, the only ones I really watch are like Top Chef and other cooking shows. So I was like, well, if somebody cuts their finger off, but I don't think they have a doctor on site. Here's a good piece of advice for when you're watching like old survivor episodes. Don't look up where are they now. It's always bad. I don't know. In like the second season or something like that guy passes out into a into the bonfire. And then he gets back and he was okay. And I was like, I hope he was okay. Let's see what happened to him later on. Later arrested on child porn. I heard. So he's like, well, worse. I'm glad he's in the fire. I hope he's not one they're bringing back for this season 30 or whatever. Okay, and he's going to end up in the fire. Never never look up the old, never look up the old survivors or professional wrestlers. That matter. No good can come of that. No. All right, question eight. That doesn't make sense. I thought they were French. The three musketeers bar is so named because it originally came in three flavors packaged together. This was later abandoned to focus on only the most popular flavor, chocolate. What were the two other original flavors? You know. I have ideas. You have ideas? What's your ideas? I have no ideas. I think is this like the flavors of Neapolitan? Ooh. Yeah, I like that. So a strawberry. I had like a strawberry of vanilla and a chocolate. I thought in the vanilla is the one that chocolate is the one that still makes. Is it chocolate? It's a good chocolate. Okay, no, it's just not new. It's new. It's new. Yeah, it's new. Yeah, it's most. It's something in between. (laughing) - I do not know what Nuget is. - I don't think anybody knows what Nuget is. I also just recently found out that you know this. Satin is a weave. It's not a fabric. - Okay. - So like anything can be a satin. I mean a lot of fabric or a lot of things don't make good satin, silk does, but it's the type of weave. - Oh, so yeah. (humming) - Amorino. - All right. We're gonna say the Neapolitan Flavors Strawberry Chocolate. - Vanilla. - Correct. Yep. So strawberry and vanilla. We're originally part of the deal. - I'm not interested in finding out what vanilla tastes like, but a strawberry one peaks my interest. - It's doing really good. - It does, yeah. - It does sound good. Question nine on the skids. We think we have it bad with mortgage rates in 2026 with recent 30 year mortgage rates around 6%. But the highest US mortgage rate ever recorded was what rate in 1981? And I will give it to you within 3%. - Okay, that's helpful. - It was like nine? - It was double digits. - It was definitely double digits, yeah. - My parents first mortgage, which they got when they bought their house in 1983. I wanna say it was like 12%. Okay. I was thinking 12 would be a good guess. That gets us. - 14 was in my head for some reason. - Which one? - 12. - 14. - Well that does get us within range. - Well why don't we bump it up? 'Cause I'm sure it's double digits. And it wouldn't have just been 10. - No, I'm saying go 13. That gets us 10 all the way to 16. Do you like that? - I do, I think that works. - All right. - So it was 18.6. - Oh wow. - There's a credit card. - Wow. - It's insane. - I mean, with the house's cost 12 bucks. - Yes, so. - Right. - Yes, if you method out, it was still cheaper to have an 18% on like a house that was only like, you know, not five times your annual salary. - But did you get the home interest tax credit? - I don't know when that came out. - Well, all I know is I'm gonna start horn to pay my mortgage. (laughing) Sam, don't worry, the rental come down when the economy crashes soon enough. - That's fun. - Yeah, refinance. So on the Skids was a reference to Skid Row's 18 in life. - Mm. - If I just listened. - Listen is not my forte. - All right, question 10, not so straightforward. TV and film can often have a major impact on industry sales. For example, the release of Top Gun led to a 40% increase in Rayban sales and E.T. drove Reese's pieces sales up by 65%. What 2004 movie had the opposite effect on sales of Merlot causing a 7% decrease in its market share that took many years to recover? - It's best to be sideways, right? - Yeah, it's so good. That's great. Of the two big wine movies, that's definitely one of them. - What's the other big wine movie? - Battle Shock. - I've never heard of that. - It's not a big wine movie. - It's a Bioshock. - Battle Shock. - Never a shock. - I think it had Alan Rickman in it. - Did it make fun of Merlot all the time? - I never saw it. - I think it was a wine movie. - I think they crept on Keyanti the whole time. - Look, if you ask me to name a second wine movie, that's what I'm saying. I don't know anything about it. - Can you name a tertiary wine movie? - No. - Okay, good to know. On tap market. So we're saying sideways. - Yes, sideways is correct, beautiful. - All right, so after the first half of the game, we've got seven of those right. So we're gonna call that seven billion points, right Jeff? - No. - No, seven? Just seven points? - 70 or, you gotta go, I don't know. - I don't know. - 70? I don't know. - All right, 70 points. - Cool. - Jeff doesn't want you to have billions of points. - I just can't math it today. - Well, I hope you guys are keeping score at home and also doing well. - And also can, if I say eat the rich, I do mean the point rich as well. - Oh, the point rich, yes, yes, yes. Well, you know what, we're rich and Patreon support. - Patreon support, we'd like to be richer. - Correct. - Oh, who wouldn't? - Who wouldn't, but we do feel rich because of all of our great listeners and fans. We do have to ask you guys for a support on Patreon, patreon.com/truelupotats. - It's what keeps the lights on. - But we keep you rich in content, correct? - I hope so. - It's like two hours of additional content every month. - Probably too hard. - Too hard. - So with the jokes. - Oh. - Well, join us over on Patreon. 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All right, Jeff, I'm not from, I kind of remember this, but I don't know the details, so fill us in. - So, not a glass slipper, Ken. - Uh-huh. - Can you think of what glass slipper reminds you of? - Cinderella. - And can you think of a-- - Bust of Crow. - A boxing movie. - Bust of Crow. - It was Russell Crowe's jock strap from Cinderella Man. - Yeah. - He sold it, they put it in the case in the last blockbuster in Alaska. - I mean, the John Oliver Koala video awarded. - So dumb. - Everything about that was just Jeff's kiss, perfect. - I love it. - It was, it sure was. And yes, so Russell Crowe is your answer. And I believe that blockbuster did eventually close. - They did close, yeah. I think they gave it back or they redone it into another charity or something, but never cleaned. So, still had the fresh funk of Russell Crowe. - Russell Crowe, who's jock strap would you prefer? - I don't want anyone's jock strap. - Yeah, I don't know if it's a pro-suit pick. - Could I get Russell Crowe's jock strap from Beautiful Mind? Why was he wearing one? What was this purpose? We don't know. Well, you know, that's how he achieved his nash equilibrium. - I see. - That was so bad. - That was so bad. - That's why we're moving on. - Yes. All right. Moving on to question 12, a throwaway question. There are seven countries that have claims to be the geographic center of Europe, depending on where you set the boundaries. Lithuania seems to be the most widely accepted as it is included in the Guinness Book of World Records for this. But if you include the inland seas and the Ural mountains, it shifts east into Belarus. Both of these models seem to just completely ignore Iceland, which if included shifts the center north into what other country? - Shifts in north from Belarus to. - Something about trash. - Huh? - The category was about trash. - Trash. - I have throwaway question. - Throwaway your category. - I don't know how to digest that, do you? - Estonia. - Why do you think Estonia? - Because you throw a stone. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Okay. So if that's true, I presume that's where we're going with this. I would agree because Estonia is north of Lithuania. - Fantastic. - I like it. - Yep, you're right. Estonia. - Look at me understanding clues. - Look at me, remember. - So proud. - Okay, question 13. I wonder if Grant Hill knows. They say up. us it's attract. What two commonly paired fruits count among their differences, the ability to float in water due to differences in their peels, one of these fruits will float in the other will sink. Name both fruits and tell me which one sinks. So, lemons and limes? What makes you think that? What was the hint? This is Grant Hill. That's the ball player. Why do you think, why did you go to lemons and limes? Because they're similar. Well, your instincts are correct, Ken, because Grant Hill was for quite a while. The spokesman for Sprite. Oh, was he? So, let's say lemons and limes. I bet you lemons float in lime sink because their peels are denser. Yeah, that's exactly right. So, lemons and limes and the lime sink. I'm, you know what, I got that base purely on thinking about similar fruits and thinking that one would sink and one would float. Do you remember, was it Letterman that used to do sink or float? That was one of my favorite fruits. Yeah. Yeah. So, you did not even need my obscure 90s Sprite commercial reference. Yeah, but we had to obey our thirst. Yes. All right, question 14, follow the leader. The Mont Golfier brothers conducted the first hot air balloon flight with living beings in 1783 at the Royal Palace in Versailles. They sent up three animals in the basket. A duck and rooster were included as controls since they could fly at various altitudes. But what ruminant animal was included because it was oddly considered to be a reasonable approximation of human physiology? Jeff, what does ruminant mean? I was hoping you would have that answer for me today. Kristen, what is ruminant? It's not coming to me. I don't know. Follow the leader. Does that get us anywhere? Oh, maybe. Is this the, is this the thing that they are believed to do, but they don't actually do? Oh, lemming. Yeah. Because it turns out the producers just push them off a cliff. And they say she said that it's made of like human substance. No, they think it's the analog to human. I mean, that could be rats for all that. Right. I mean, lemmings, what they walk onto legs, right? Do they? Well, they did when they were getting pushed off the cliff. They did in the video game. Let's say lemmings. So very close or as close to humans as this animal is, it's a sheep. Okay. Oh, because they, yeah, what's a ruminant? So I think it's something to do with like, cudd chewing. Ah, yes, yes, yes. That's right. Yep. Yep. So I'm a ruminant animal. I guess if you're chewing your cudd. Too much information. All right, question 15. That's impressive. Not accessible by a traditional male truck. The most remote US post office, the supai post office is located inside what US national part? You know, this one off the bed. You got that too, Kristen. You said what? I think it's the one in the Grand Canyon. Grand Canyon, you agree? They were at a horse down there. Sounds good. Yep, exactly. So it is in the Grand Canyon and you can only get there by horse or mule or helicopter. And you know the fun part about it? Okay. There's no upcharge. It's the same 79 Sun Stamp. Fantastic. Which proves to me that we could be doing a lot better. Well, after five questions in that round, we are up to 11 correct. So 110 points. That's what you wanted to do. Sure. All right. Not too shabby. All right, question 16. I liked the old one better. Which island nation includes the individual islands of New Britain and New Ireland? The old one. I like the old one better. So that's probably something that's called new or Nova or New Guinea New Zealand. I like New Zealand better than pop in New Guinea. I mean, I'm living that. But Nova Scotia is that new? Does Nova mean new? Yeah. But it's not an island. Does it have some part that's touching the land? No, so, uh, let me would you kindly reread the beginning of that force? Absolutely. Papa and New Guinea? No, I don't think so. No. Were they not colonized? Not by the British. Okay. Um. I mean, New Zealand. I don't know. No, that was the Dutch. I mean, that's a, I mean, name, it's a Dutch name. Australia is an island nation. So maybe like, why were we, what was the category again? It was something we were hitting like the old one better. Right. So it feels like that to their going with older New, right? That's all I got. We think, well, I guess we'll say, I mean, two islands, you could go to New Zealand. New Zealand. Okay. We'll go to New Zealand. Oh, you had it, Ken. It's Papa New Guinea. What? I know I had it. It's okay. Oh, you should have said something. It's okay. That's crazy. Let these guys talk about it. I did look into why, but I can't for the life of me remember right now. Exercise for the reader. You're leaving it as an exercise for the listeners. Yes. Homework. All right. Question 17, damn clean. Early television shows aimed to be very proper with married couples often sleeping in separate beds. And it would seem nobody had bodily functions until 1957 when what show had the first on camera appearance of a toilet in an episode called Captain Jack. The sensors actually wanted to cut the scene, but deemed it was okay since only the tank was a visible. So trivia classic. Mm-hmm. You remember this one? It was leave it to be for, right? I believe so. Was it something with an alligator or something? Maybe they were flushing the dead goldfish or something. Do you agree, Kristen? I have nothing to add here because I know nothing about this. Whatever this is. I'm going to throw something out there. I think like great grandparents. I remember going to my great grandparents house when I was a kid. And I think like it was still like the 1950s in their mind, even though it was like the 1990s by then because they had two separate beds and maybe they just didn't get along. It's underrated. It's underrated. I'll tell you, sometimes having a guest bedroom means a good night's sleep. Sometimes that's true. I've been noticed sleep on a couch myself. Yeah. I snore really bad. So it's really for everybody else's bed. So we're going to say leave it to beaver. Yep. That's correct. Leave it to beaver. And I believe psycho has the first toilet flush right in a movie. It does. All right, question 18. I thought that was a telescope or maybe a dip first produced in 1935. What popular ceramic figurines were inspired by a nun's drawings of children who also serves as their namesake? I can see some silly things. Okay. Type 9, definitely. Yeah. Drawing and a telescope. I thought it was a telescope or maybe a dip. Web. No web dip. No web dip. No. No, I'll. No, erasibo dip. In valley. No. There's no guacamole. Tell us go. A nuns drawings of children. Turned into ceramic figurines. I'm getting nowhere on this one. I think those well precious moments. Yeah. Kind of the. I mean, the precious moments that they definitely do make little like ceramic figurines. Where does the dip or the telescope go? Or the telescope doesn't really fit in that. But I mean talking about little children ceramic figurines that is literally the only thing I can think of. I would agree that's all I can think of also. We're gonna say precious moments. Okay. So they are named after the nun, which was in the question, but maybe not clearly enough. It's their Hummels is what they're called. Hummels. I have heard of that. Hummels. Yeah. Which is like a Hubble or a hummus. I don't know those. I've heard I've heard of those. Yeah. I think that's a few generations back. They were much more popular. Okay. We'll look at that. That was what I was given when my grandparents passed away. It was their Hummels. It was like, Oh, gee, thanks. Something to dust. Yeah. Okay. Question 19. Dead ringer. Typically represented by the ominous blood on the handkerchief tuberculosis is commonly referenced in popular culture with famous references, including Satine in Mulan Rouge and Fantine for Les Miserables. What other French character was suspected to suffer from Pots disease, which is a manifestation of TB outside the lungs? Another French character dead ringer. Dead ringer was a movie with Jeremy Irons. Did he play a famous French character with tuberculosis? Quite possibly. I remember him playing a famous African character. My name is Scar. I'm glad that the villain in that movie was British. Very fitting. Another French character. Cardinal Richelot. Maybe he might have played Cardinal Richelot. Not sure. I have nothing on it. I remember him playing Borgia, but Borgia was Italian. I don't know. Outside of this. I'm trying to think of any French character that shows like our signs of tuberculosis. I don't know. Let's say Cardinal Richelot. Okay. So, Pot's disease is tuberculosis in your spine. Oh, I'm not sure. Dead ringer, bell ringer. Okay. Question 20. The real thin lizzy. Pharmaceuticals are often derived from natural substances. In fact, the very popular GLP1 agonist medications used in diabetes management or weight loss were actually developed from a protein found in the venom of what animal made of to the southwestern US. I plan to post venom. Southwestern US rattlesnake. Possibly. What were you listening for in the clue, Ken? I zoned out. What was the clue? The real thin lizzy. The real thin lizzy. I mean, thin. Then lizard. What do you think? What was a tin lizzy? I saw I was just trying to think of. I mean, another kind of snake. Well, if it's a lizard, if a snake is not a lizard, right? Oh, you can say to heal. Oh, I think it is a healer monster. Now that I think of her this, I don't know why I've heard this. Probably on some trivia podcast. But that's a lizard thing. They are venomous, I believe, right? So what's going on? All right. I hope it wasn't on this trivia podcast that you heard that, but it is in fact a healer monster. Yes. Well done. I got to say that we should fund more science. Yeah. That's my plug for the day. I don't know how that happens. Like, I don't know what I can do about that as one person. But well, after the second round here, we have 13 of these correct out of 20, giving us 130 points, and excited for the final round. Before we go there, one more time. I want to remind everybody to check us out on Patreon. It is the main driver of how we keep the show going. So it's super important that we get support there and we appreciate all the support we do get. But if you can spare five bucks a month, you get all that bonus content, you get ad free episodes. And most of all, you're just helping us continue to bring you great great shows on a weekly basis. So once again, go to patreon.com/truvialdepotcast. And we will be back after this short break. All right, we are back ready for the last five questions. All right. So our final round, question number one, sweet. What does mine say? Though not known for sure, the origin of what common slang term is thought to date back to the 1880s and was likely a reference to the song Yankee Doodle. Though it wasn't widely used until about a hundred years later. Sweet. What does mine say? Oh, that's that stupid movie. Oh my God, where they both get tattoos on their back because they're drunk and they wake up with tattoos on my back. Once a sweet and once is dude. There you go. Sweet thing. Oh, yeah. So dude is your answer. Oh. Okay, number two, it ain't easy. In Japan, there are over 400 different flavors of kick cats available, often more savory than sweet. The popularity of this treat in Japan is said to be due to the resemblance to the phrase kiddo cat zoo, which I'm probably butchering the pronunciation of, which means sure to win. Of these over 400 flavors, which flavor is their top seller? I bet you it's the the matcha Kit Kat. And that would track with the day and easy. The green. Oh, true. That was my first thought. Jeff, you got quite a few flavors of Kit Kat when we traveled. You know, it's funny. I actually still have a couple. I think they're probably good. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, there's no food in there. No, it's like salt sugar. So we're going to save the matcha. So think I think about nine of them home. Nobody seemed to care for the barley ones. So. All right, number three, gathering awards. There have been several movies where a woman has played a cisgender male character, but only one such performance has won an Academy award. What actress accomplished this by playing a Chinese Australian man alongside Mel Gibson? I don't know what you guys are laughing about, but I have nothing here other than gathering awards to say. Did you say in a this person won an Academy award for playing a Chinese Australian man across from all Gibson? Correct. Yes, it was a best supporting actress award. What in the world? Mel Gibson. It wasn't Bob Dylan. Probably wasn't the passion of the Christ. Yeah, that's where I was going to go is the Bob Dylan. Dude, how could I not know this? Do you know a lot of Mel Gibson movies? Well, it's very, this is a very unique situation. Yeah. Yeah, so you think I would jump out? Does gathering help at all? Gathering, it was gathering awards. Was there a pre-hint on this one? The category gathering awards is a hint. Yes. Gathering awards. I think it was there maybe where Mel was a hunter or something like a hunter gatherer type thing or. Was there someone's last name who means to gather? No one hunt. I don't think this came up in what one to want. That was my next guest, but no. Who? Chinese Australian. Gather bringing things together. Man, I don't know. I've got nothing. I got nothing. I'm sure I'm going to hear it and say that makes sense, but I don't know. Yeah, tell us. So Helen Hunt was close. It's Linda Hunt, who played Billy Kwan in the year of living dangerously with Mel Gibson. I'm going to have to look this one up because none of that rang a bell. But interesting. Was to tie in my guess this movie, this performance. I had never heard of this movie either before writing this question. Something's just don't age well, I guess. Mel Gibson. Yeah, Mel Gibson, for example. Somehow it's worse than more ways than what. All right, question number four. This question comes with a joke. What species of fish live in communities with a single dominant female and undergo a process known as pretendry where the largest male of the group will transform into a female when that one female dies. No wonder they're always getting lost. No one's willing to ask for directions. I'm not going to say that. But they were like hand in hand for a Chicago 90s kid. Yes. But this is famously without a part one rock and roll part two by Gary Glitter. Not all the glitters is gold. I see. This time it is. Yes. It's Gary Glitter. All right. Well, we did. It's impossible to get him out of my carpets. He's everywhere. We did four out of five and that's a final round there. Bring our total score to 17. to 17 of 25 possible correct answers, giving us 170 points. Hope you guys at home did well as well. And mostly, I want to thank our lovely guests today. We'll start with Lydia, any final shout outs from you. - Yeah, so it was great to be here. Thank you guys very much. I would like to shout out Louis and Marty, who helped me play test on Discord, and my sisters who helped me play test as well. And if I may put a final shout out out there for vaccines, they work. - Yeah, do that. Kristen, lovely having you. And again, thank you, Lydia, for the great game. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for your time. And thanks for pointing out all those hints to me that I just totally glazed over. Why don't you go ahead and give your shout outs as well. - All right, well, I think Lydia, this was a fun game. Thank you guys for having me. This is the first time, probably not the last time, but it'll probably be another couple of years because I'm really bad about signing up for trivia things when it comes to it. Usually I get on trivia shows when like, can you fill in please? 'Cause I forgot to do something or somebody failed. But, you know, I'm gonna question how you can fun science. You can always write to all your people who represent you both in Washington and locally, and you can do all the local things. Vote in local elections, support local businesses, et cetera. They are the ones that make a difference. So if you want change, it all starts at home. - Indeed, think globally. - Act locally, right? Is that John Muir? - I'm not sure. - You know what I am sure of, Ken? - Yeah. - That we love here. - The more spots are, we're a part of Airway Media. - That's right. - And as a part of Airway Media, we love to shout out other shows that you can check out such as, - That aren't who, who are it? - Who aren't who are it? 'Cause we just, I mean, that one's great. But what about the Bibliophage podcast? - Sounds good. - Eatable, glately. - That's not their slogan, I just want to be. - It should be. - What about the Dark History's podcast? - And have you tried Hands-On Windows? - Hands-On Windows. - Like the computers? - No, like the scene in Titanic. - Oh, I see. - What's the podcast about them? - Do we know? - Yeah, it helps you to adapt to the changes made in Windows 11. - I see. - Everybody needs that. Check out Hands-On Windows when you have computer needs. Yeah? Airwaymedia.com to check out all those great podcasts and more. So that's our game. Once again, thank you, Kristen and Lydia for joining us today. Thank you, Jeff, for being my co-host today. No thanks to Neil and Matt. But that was Triviality. Bye-bye. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)