Worry-O-Meter & Welcome Back, Hunter Brown! (6/17 Fantasy Baseball Podcast)

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How about that? Well, I guess it's a Wednesday now. Tuesday night. Looking blurry on the video side of things. But very blurry. I'm fuzzy today. I don't appreciate it. I'm trying to get it to. Nope, it's just, I'm just going to be blurry all day. Okay, let's go. Oh my goodness. Gracious player the night for me is Logan Gilbert of the Seattle Mariners. And I don't want to just assume that just because one thing happened at the same time as a different thing that that thing caused the other thing. Correlation does not always equal causation. However, Logan Gilbert had his best start of the season tonight. And he did not throw his cutter at all. And I think that is not a coincidence. Because I never understood what the point of the cutter for Logan Gilbert was supposed to be. And my understanding is this is a tinkerer. Who over the past couple of years has been held back from some of the tinkering that he wants to do by Cal Raleigh. There was a story from this spring, specifically about the sinker, but also the cutter was mentioned that Logan Gilbert wants to throw these pitches and Cal Raleigh basically just says no. Gilbert had 10 strikeouts today. And his fastball was incredible. 12 whiffs. And one thing we see sometimes is guys, Carlos Rodin would be the best example I can think of. Guys who rely heavily on a foreseemer and a slider for whiffs, introduce a cutter to try to bridge those pitches together, have a pitch that they can get left these out with. And it can kind of screw with both the slider and foreseemer. And in particular for Gilbert, the foreseemer just hasn't been very good this season. It's been getting crushed. The cutter has been getting hit hard. It doesn't generate whiffs. It just doesn't seem like a particularly good pitch. He's not a guy who needed an extra pitch. He's got like six pitches already. He gets left these out really well or historically has. So the cutter just seems totally superfluous for me. And look at that. He gets rid of it and he has his best start of the season. I am not saying those two things are causing each other, but I kind of think they are. That's three good starts in the row for Logan Gilbert, I believe four of the last five have been really good or five of the last six perhaps. I think he's really good. I've been expecting him to turn it around and lock in and become an ace again. So I'm kind of just okay, he's an ace again. You know, yeah. It's the last five starts. I had him as one of the players trending up for for later on in the show, but 150 ERA 0.80 whip during that span 35 strikeouts to eight walks over 30 innings and emphasizing the four seam fastball also emphasizing the slider more during that stretch as well. And we've talked a lot about this all season, right? It's kind of less is more for Logan Gilbert. Just get back to what works, man. And the four seam in the slider for years have been the bread and butter. He has a couple other pitches that are very good. Splitter's incredible. Splitter's good. Carb is good at time. He hardly threw this blitter in this one. Well, yeah, that's the other thing is he's got this change up that he added this year to go along with the splitter. And it just I don't really get it. I don't really understand why Logan Gilbert made these changes besides just, hey, I'm a professional athlete. I'm always trying to get better and that's admirable. That's great. But it's kind of the whole Mariners pitching staff. Yes. Everybody's always tinkering and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought yes, by the data, this blitter has been his most effective pitch this year. And yet he hardly threw it. He didn't throw the cutter at all. Hardly through this blitter. Just really pounded the fastball and at his best start. So hopefully he can build off that. Yeah. I think it was probably about a month ago at this time that I think Scott and I had this conversation that Logan Gilbert is definitively an SP two at this point. He just did not have the whiffs and you know, even the ratios just like did not look like an SP one type. But things have changed over these last five starts. He's starting to get more whiffs and perhaps working his way back into that SP one, not the SP one, but a SP one conversation always moving the future is. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Scott, let's go over to you for your player of the night. I could tell. I could tell you, you know, to say that. My player of the night is Brian Reynolds. Brian Reynolds had a two-homer game. It's up to 10 homers on the year. Now here's the thing. I feel like he's been pretty good all season in like low key good. I say low key because his batting average has hovered in the 240 to 50 range, which is less than we're used to seeing it from Brian Reynolds. I mean, he hit 245 last year and it was like really disappointing. So was he having a bounce back season? Well, the points leagues he was doing great. Partly that's because his walk rate was one of the best in the game by far the best of his career 16%. And the strike out rate was one of the best of his career. And exit velocities were about as good as they've ever been 91.1 mile per hour average, 113.7 max expected stats look good. There was a lot here to like. It just seemed like, you know, unless you're getting that walk bonus that comes with a from a points league, it felt a little underwhelming. But now it doesn't. Now it's suddenly all coming together here, not just with this two homer game Tuesday for Brian Reynolds, but over his last 23 games, he's batting 361 with six home runs. And that has taken his batting average from 243 where it's been hovering for most of this season. Now it's all the way up to 280, just like that. It's gone from the worst batting average or one of the worst batting averages of his career to one of the best. And I think he's going to sustain closer to this level, judging by what I'm seeing in the underlying data. Like I think I think it's culminated in the way he should have been producing all along. And again, he'd already been great in points leagues because of all those walks. He entered this game, the two home or game as the 12th best outfielder in head to head points leagues. We've talked about how so many in that 12 to 20 range have disappointed. I think Brian Reynolds firmly in that group now. And I would treat him as a must start. I think regardless of format, but especially points leagues. Points leagues, we need to be treating him like a stud at this point. Yeah, I agree completely. Scowee, both have them inside of our top 24 outfielders and head to head points leagues. Let's see Chris, where do you have Brian Reynolds? 38. I think we're Chris. That's too low. I think I'm on Chris. We got to move them up Chris. He's not a name that we've talked about much at all this season, but he has been really good. Even in roado leagues, he is entering Tuesday was the 16th best outfielder in roados slash category leagues as well. So he's been good, regardless of format. Obviously, we're starting to see some more power here as well. Four home runs in the past eight games to strike out rate is down. He's still hitting the ball really hard. And I think a big key for him too, along with the walks is just the supporting cast. While O'Neill cruises out, the Pirates lineup has been so much better this year, right? With Brandon Lough and Ryan O'Hern coming in. He's on pace for like 190 runs plus RBI, which I think would be the highest of Brian Reynolds career. So just really, really good all around improvements and really good supporting cast there in the Pirates lineup as well. My player tonight here is going to be Zach Gelloff who I think is just a must-raster player at this point. Underlying stuff we'll talk about. It doesn't completely support it, but the way that he's playing right now, he is just on fire three for three with a walk, a sock and a shoe, his 10th home run, his eighth stone base. He is on a 20 game hitting streak where he's hitting 372 during that span. Four homers, two steals and OPS over 950, really taking advantage of the home ballpark. I guess the Vegas games kind of get lumped into that those home numbers as well. Three homers in the six games area. Yeah, so that will help. But yeah, in the comments. home games of season hitting 324, seven homeers, four steals, nine 26 OPS there for Zach Lov. He's got the strikeout rate down this year, 25% very reasonable for him. The pulled air rate is up slightly. Some of the underlying plate discipline stuff to like the zone contact still not great compared to other players, but it's the best of his career. The with rate, the best of Zach Lov's career as well. So 67% rostered three different position eligibility's second, third, outfielder. He's an everyday player in a really good lineup. Stack cast doesn't buy it, but I think he needs to be a must roster player the way that kill off his player right now. I don't know about in the shallower head to head leagues that he needs to be rostered, especially since, I guess he's eligible third to third probably a little weaker than second, but I know second base probably has enough to go around. I'd stop a little short of calling a must roster, but any in those shallower head to head formats, but anything that requires a third corner in field, or third and one middle in field, or five outfielders. Yeah, Zach Lov is a very handy player. He's bringing some power. He's bringing some speed. I'm with you. I think there's reason for skepticism, but my leaning is that the expected stats have this a little bit wrong on Gellow. And he's actually enjoying a legitimate breakout. I just looked up his season long points per game in points leagues 2.6 over the last 28 days. It's three fantasy points per game. And that was before this game as well. So that number will go up a little bit. Yeah, he's he's just been rock solid. He was a talented player a couple of years ago. And now just getting the strikeouts down. I think really is probably the biggest key for him. What's really funny is the expected Woba early in the season was really good. 342 on May 19th over his previous 100 played appearances. Last 100 played appearances. It's down to 236. And it's the best stretch of his career, probably as an actual hitter. So I don't really know what to make of it, because I agree fundamentally with everything you guys are saying, like the improvements that he's made seem real. He's the chase rates down to 24%. That's the lowest. The zone contact rates the highest of his career. Still, as Frank said, bad, but we're comparing players to themselves too. And he has shown improvement. So I'm not quite sure of what to make of that. But he pulls them on the air decent amount. He's a good athlete. I qualified optimism. I would say is my position on Zach Lough, but with the five category production, you're getting out of him. And with that home park, I do think it makes sense to just treat as if treated as if it's real in road leads leagues and let's see where it goes. And I'm feeling dumb for benching him in one of my road o leagues this week. Yeah. You should have read the sleeper hitters article. Chris. I right. I remember who it was. I saw the athletics head seven home games this week. And I got all all A's players and all my lineups. Yeah. Oh, I started. You know what? I'm going to blame Scott for the care. Carpenter was also in your in your sleep. Yeah. Right. I had him. I think he'll off was higher. But I know you like carol. I'm putting this all on. I call right back to me. You probably wouldn't have started camp Smith over him. That was probably dumb. Yeah. I had Gell-Off one spot ahead of Cari Carpenter for what it's worth. Would you guys take Gell-Off over Royce Lewis, Noelle V marty, Colt Emerson, other young, upsidey type guys. I think I like all those other guys more. Say their names again. Royce Lewis, Noelle V marty and Colt Emerson. I, you know, the thing is I think Gell-Off has the least upside of the group. But I don't have a ton of confidence in those other three reaching their upside. So I think with the way Gell-Off's performing right now, I probably would take him ahead of all three. But it's not, it's not a musical too. They are. We still, we still need Noelle V marty to play more. It's so, yeah. It's been so short. It's been so short live for them. And I, I don't know. I know Emerson has been decent. I don't think he's been at the same. The underlying numbers are much worse. Yeah. He even then Gell-Off's I think. Yeah. I think I would take Gell-Off over all three too. It's just like with, with marty, the playing time I'm worried about. Emerson has been solid, but the underlying stuff doesn't buy it as much either. It's just a much better hitting environment for Gell-Off. With Royce Lewis, it's a little bit closer. But I think you're going to get more speed than Zach go off. And it's a better lineup with the A's too. So it's close with all those guys. But I think I'd put Gell-Off at the top of that list as well. Before we hit our first breaks, I want to give a welcome back to Hunter Brown. Take a look at his start here. It looked pretty good in his return against the Tigers. Five and two thirds, one run, seven strikeouts to three walks, had 12 lifts on 92 pitches. The location clearly was not his best in this one. First pitch strikes to just 45% of the batters he faced. What do you guys see here from Hunter Brown? Welcome back. This is one where I do want to check back tomorrow when they update the arm angle. Because there was some changes in the movement profile across his arsenal. The four seamer, the induced vertical break was the same, but he got three inches less of arm side break with that. And the rest of his pitches were all off by like two ish inches across the board, one direction or the other. So it wasn't consistently different. You know, the change up had less arm side break. The four seamer had less arm side break, but the sinker had less induced vertical break. You know, the the knuckle curve had less break. So I'm not sure what's going on there. But all in all, I think you should be pretty optimistic. Like Rizal twice, it was a pretty good start. He mostly looked like himself. The velocity was there. There aren't any huge glaring red flags. It's just he didn't look 100% like himself. He looked like 95% which for a pitcher, this good, that might be enough. But we've seen with like George Kirby where some seemingly minor changes across the board have made him a much worse pitcher this season. And I think maybe not that we expect Hunter Brown to be worse, but we should expect them to maybe be a little bit different. Coming back from my shoulder injury, right? Like it's pretty pretty serious injury for any pitcher to come back from. So he came back quite a bit earlier than we expected, right? I mean, this was one we thought he went. He was out on like April 1st. So yeah, it's like two and a half months. It's pretty long absence. Yeah. But overall, pretty good return here for Hunter Brown. Let's pay attention to some of that underlying stuff for him. All right, prospects to stash going to be on the site here on Wednesday. Make sure to check out Scott's articles, CBS Sports dot com slash fantasy slash baseball. You can read that on the CBS fantasy app as well. And if you have an FBT express episode coming out at noon, where we break down a lot of those players as well, Joshua by as my goodness. We'll talk about him a little bit later on this podcast. But let's take a break and we'll be back right after this. Tosi Hyvn opera Torin Tosi Hyvn Kesatar Jokset. Hange Kesatar Joksista Usi puhelin tableti tai kuulokkeet. Suntatelja kauppan tai osoitteese piste fi. Hey, Melléne toi kesti. M on lumalla. Welcome back fantasy baseball today. Let's hit the news and notes and out of nowhere. Daniel Polencia was placed in the aisle with right elbow inflammation. I didn't see anything concrete about a replacement within their team. Maybe you guys saw something differently. But my guess is I think the Cubs could maybe mix and match. If I had to just choose one name in their bullpen, I would lean towards Jacob Webb, who has pitched really well this year. And I know Caleb deal bar pitch the eighth inning on Monday, but he did give up my home run. And the three appearances before that by Daniel Polencia, Jacob Webb was the pitchers that came in right before him and all three of those. So I would lean Jacob Webb. What do you guys think about the Cubs, bullpen right now? First how it went last time, Polencia was out. These are the guys that got saves the ill bar, the ill bar, carbon Martin, homey Miller, Jacob Webb, Ben Brown. Thanks for nothing Craig council. That is not helpful. I lean Jacob Webb for the same reasons you do, but it's just a very slight lean. Other safe sources right now, names that we've talked about lately, you enders Gomez with the twins and Elvis Alvarado. I do know he came in here with the game tied in the ninth inning on Tuesday. And he gave up a solo home run. He wound up with the loss there, but has had the past couple of saves for the athletic. So we'll see if they go back to him next time with a lead to it. Two of the last three technically, but I don't think he was available for that middle appearance where Hogan Harris got one. Yeah, I'd still lean strongly toward Alvarazan. I would go with him over any one of the cups. Volpin Alvarado. Alvarado. Yes. Jose Ramirez underwent Hamay bone surgery on Tuesday and is expected to miss five to seven weeks. So we're looking at a late July early August return. If there are no setbacks there for J. Ram. Ellie De La Cruz is scheduled to start a rehab assignment at AAA on Friday. Francis School and Dorr could begin an official rehab assignment on Monday. Garrett crochet began throwing a plyometric ball on Tuesday as the first step of his throwing program still sounds like he'll be out until after the All Star Break. Cole Reagan's remains shut down from throwing it while continuing to experience elbow symptoms. He'll be evaluated by another doctor later this week. Reading more about this, it just kind of feels like it's going to end poorly for Cole Reagan's. Yep. Yeah, I mean, the initial diagnosis was super vague, but the fact that he's, this is the second time now he's tried to throw and had setbacks, I think, that just, that does not bowed well. Yeah. Vlad Jr. was back in the lineup after missing two games with back tightness. Max Fried completed a bullpen on Tuesday. Aaron Boone said it went well. He's working his way back from a bone bruise in his left elbow. Roman Anthony underwent a follow-up MRI on Tuesday that came back clean, but he's not yet cleared to swing a bat. The Orioles activated Ryan Helsley, an option to Anthony Nunez to triple A. I think we all just expect Ryan Helsley to step back in as the closer right for the Orioles. Yeah. Yes. All right, Luis Castillo will piggyback with Bryce Miller on Friday against the Red Sox. And apparently, the latest plan for the Mariners will be for all six of their starters to rotate through and have piggyback days, which was kind of confusing at first, but basically from now through the All Star break, each one of their pitchers is going to take turns having a piggyback reliever behind them. Is what I get from that? It just seems like the way I read what I read was the way the off days work out over the next month. They basically have like an off day every week. And so their options were either have everybody start once per week and get like six days off between their starts, which would throw them off their schedules, or everybody gets one piggyback. So it's going to be Bryce Miller and Luis Castillo this time. At some point, it will be some other combination of two, and then at some point, it will be some other combination of two. It will happen three times is what they said. And it's going to cost everyone a couple of innings over the next month. My initial read was, oh, this is going to be weird. Everybody's going to be thrown off their schedules, but I actually don't think there's anything here. It shouldn't. I mean, like anything can throw pitchers off their schedules. They're all kind of weird guys who depend on, you know, being in rhythm, but the way it was initially reported is a lot different than what they actually sound like they're doing. So I don't really think there's anything to worry about here. Just I don't know, maybe there's one week Brian Wu might only get five innings in a start. That's kind of the concern, I guess. Or what I get to start. I don't know. He might be the one who gets four innings, but it'll probably be Emerson Hancock or something. It's so weird. It's such a dumb situation. Well, yeah, because they have six good starters. And they also have two of the best pitching prospects in baseball. Yeah. Who are both one who I think is clearly ready for the one is dominating double A. Kate Anderson, one 13 year A, like a 40% strike outrate. Ryan Sloan was considered the better prospect coming into this season, but I think he's struggling a little more. It was a fine line. Yeah, sure. To begin with. Yeah, look, I think for us to say it's pretty easy, like just trade Luis Castillo to a team that needs pitching, but having pitching depth is incredibly valuable, especially in today's pitching environment. So I understand that, but this just doesn't seem like the right answer either. So it's not going to be Luis Castillo just as the piggyback reliever every time. I still think guys are going to get thrown off here. Like if you're using Bryce Miller as the piggyback reliever one time or Emerson Hancock or Brian Wu, like these guys have been really good starters all season long. And because of this piggyback situation, they're going to wind up getting thrown off anyway. So it's just I don't like it. I don't like it. It's a lot to keep up with. You know, it is indeed. Well, you got to pull out the whole. You got to print out a calendar and like write the names on it so you don't lose track. It's just it's just too much. I don't envy you trying to figure out the pitching planner for the Mariners for the next like months. I'm sorry. I didn't even think about that. Hopefully they get a spot. Hopefully they announced it. Dan Wilson's problem. Hopefully they continue to announce it ahead of time like they did with because it's going to be Miller and Castillo on Friday and it'll be Miller starting. He'll get five innings. Castillo, we got four. Remember famously, neither of them were happy about that situation. No. Though I read that the pitching staff is on board with this place. Yes, they basically gave them the choice of this or a couple of other different options. And this was what the six starters decided. So all right. Let's keep things moving. Randy Rose, the rain was placed in the aisle with a hamstring strain tough loss. He's been awesome this season entering Tuesday. He was the seventh best outfielder in roado leagues. The eighth best outfielder in total head to head points. We have had a lot of outfielders emerge recently. So you know, in Chalera formats, Vinnie past, Quantino and Col Carrick and Brandon Montgomery. I think, you know, slightly deeper leagues you move down. You get like dealing with your moves. You meant Jack Caglione, not Vinnie past, Quantino. You know what? He's playing first base. He's a big guy too, but I didn't mean Jack Caglione. Yes. And then you move a little bit deeper. You got you have guys like Dylan Cruz and Spencer Jones with another home run and also Henry Bolte, who's been playing and he's been okay. So some decent outfield replacements right now. Castillo, or made his first start at first base since 2021 and four more would be pretty nice, at least for the season three more. He randomly made an appearance at first base on May 7th. I did not realize that either. He also has two left field starts already. So all right. Needs three more outfield, three more first base. And they did say Don Mattingley said that he the plan is to get him 10 to 12 more appearances in the field. This was Bryce Harper getting a day off at the age. So I would guess for outfield is still more likely than first base, but it would be nice to get double eligible Kyle Sorber at some point. Yeah. For sure. And he home it again. His league leading 25th home run of the season. Therefore Kyle Sorber Brandon Woodruff made another rehab start Tuesday. This time at high a five and a third innings three runs six strikeouts to one walk. He got up to 82 pitches. That's a pretty healthy number. I guess we'll see how he bounces back, but 82 pitches. I kind of feel like maybe his next start is just with the rules. Yeah. Could be. I wish we add high a we could give velocity data because that is something to monitor with Woodruff. It was obviously down a lot last year succeeded in spite of it was down even more this year and was looking pretty shaky. But yeah, I think there's a good chance this next start is in Milwaukee. Josh Nailer was out of the line up with both chin and wrist issues. Michael Garcia left Tuesday's game with a hand injury. Looks like the hand was bothering him in the fourth inning. He left shortly after that Edward Cabrera left his start early with a right hand cramp. Shane Bieber will make another rehab start at on Wednesday. He's aiming for 75 pitches in that one. And if he gets to 75 bounces back. All right. That's another situation. I think maybe his next start could come with the blue jays. Mick Abel made another rehab outing at AAA five innings to runs five strikeouts. He got up to 61 pitches. My guess is Abel probably needs at least one more rehab start. But I think he's a really good stash right now. He looked really good before he got hurt on has looked pretty good in these rehab outings as well. Justin Verlander will be activated to start Saturday against the white socks. I can't imagine we have much interest in Verlander at this point. You are correct sir. On Hill Martina was placed in the aisle with a fracture in his left foot. And I thought this might be the opening for Cooper Ingle. But instead the guardians called up PD helpin. PD helpin. Yeah. I don't know. P helpin. But I still feel like we're pretty close to Cooper Ingle getting the call. Tommy Edmund was in helping. Oh, Tommy Edmund was activated by the Dodgers. As Scott pointed out yesterday Edmund will be eased into a full time role only playing three to four times per week at first. JP Crawford was activated and in the lineup at third base on Tuesday. Kohl's Emerson started at shortstop set. Lugo expected to be reinstated from the concussion I L and start Friday against the nationals. Elliott Ramos will begin a rehab assignment at AAA on Wednesday. And I do have some prospect updates to share twins shortstop prospect killing Cole pepper was placed on the I L with a hip strain white socks pitching prospect. Hagen Smith. The last we heard is that they were considering him for a promotion. He was placed in the aisle with a left shoulder impingement blue J's pitching prospect Ricky Teedemann started a rehab assignment in the Florida complex league on Tuesday. It's his first official game in nearly two years. Any chance that Ricky Teedemann makes an impact with the blue J's this season. I would not put a lot of hopes in that. I'm not going to say the chances are zero but there are a lot of hurdles to clear for Ricky Teedemann after that long absence. And including you know, it's not like he was on the verge of promotion even before that. And I mentioned the name earlier massive game from Cardinals outfield prospect Joshua Baez at AAA on Tuesday. 4 for 5 with a quadruple dong for homers in one game seven RBI. And over his last 18 games at AAA, he's hitting 388 12 homers 29 R. and he has that strikeout rate down to 24% during that stretch. The Cardinals had Nathan Church in center field. Jimmy Crook said, "DH on Tuesday night, 27% rostered." This man is kicking down the door. I think we could see him very soon. - And the world, they're feisty. They're playing for something right now. - Cardinals lineup has been pretty good all season. - Well, and they just showed their willing to, they kinda had this youth infusion a couple weeks ago, bringing up Blaze Jordan, like a week ago, bringing up Blaze Jordan and Jimmy Crooks. And by as, as you said, 12 home runs in his last 18 games. And like, there's certainly nothing wrong with the exit velocity data. He will be the new top prospect of stash when this week's prospects report comes out. I left him out of that group completely until now. And part of that was because the strikeout rate was so inflated for the year, it's still over 30% at AAA. After part of the reason he had a big breakout last year, he got that strikeout rate down to 21%. It was, so he has given up those gains in the strikeout, in terms of strikeouts this year, which kind of reduced my enthusiasm for it. But as you said, over this 18 game stretch, it's 24% rate. Small sample and a long history of striking out too much. So I'm not saying, I'm not saying bias is past that. But there's renewed reason for hope here and obviously no shortage of power. All right, let's take our final break when we return. We'll fire up the worryometer here on fantasy baseball today. (upbeat music) It's a worryometer Wednesday. I've got three pitchers and three hitters to talk about and a big old regression start here for Davis Martin at the Yankees. I just wanna apologize first and foremost because I feel like every time we talk about Davis Martin, we did this exact thing last week. Chris, it's like, we keep flip flopping or I keep flip flopping because it's last week was great. One good start, one terrible start, one good start, one terrible start. And here we are. His roughest start of the season at three and a third innings, nine runs allowed, three walks, three homers allowed. Stacked cast was messed up in this game too. So that obviously does not help the situation where we're trying to figure out exactly what went wrong here for Davis Martin. But I think the most obvious thing is he struggled to throw strikes and he got hit really hard. So where is Davis Martin on the worryometer? So you never want to swing wildly from one conclusion to the next. But the problem with Davis Martin is every start of Davis Martin that we see is roughly, I mean, now to at one 15th of his time as a one 14th of his time as a fantasy relevant player. So more than most reacting to each start does make sense. And I'm increasingly starting to think that it was just a fluke. His XERA is up to 380. Now that was before this start. I don't know what that's going to look like. I assume they'll go through and fix the stack ass data. But right now we had a couple of innings that just didn't show up, which is annoying for other reasons because Garrett Coln had six swing strikes in the start. Right. Although it was a good start. And so my inclination all along with Davis Martin has been, yeah, this is nice, enjoy a while last, but I don't expect it to last just because I have a good explanation for why a 29-year-old suddenly went from not good at all to very good. And so I'm not saying he's going to be a disaster every start moving forward, but every other start right now is what it looks like now. But I think he's probably closer to 4-E-R-A-Pitcher than a 3-E-R-I-Pitcher. And that's probably a high 3-E-R-A-Pitcher. And that's probably not very useful. But I might be contradicting what I said after his last start and I hate doing that. But that's the problem with the small sample sizes. You kind of do have to over-react both when he was doing well in the good way. And then now, I will say this, I certainly think you missed your so high window. And so your best bet might just be right and out. And if he has another bad start next week, maybe we start talking about is it time to drop, Davis Martin? But right now, I think I'm inclined to just let it be because I don't think there's anything else actionable you can do. The thing that stood out most when he was going well was elite control, which is hard for anyone to sustain, particularly someone who doesn't have a long track record of that. Also, he had allowed three home runs all season until this start where he allowed three home runs. So he was probably overachieving in that area, I think even more clearly than in the walks. There's still a lot of good in the skill indicators there. It's sort of like Landon Roup. OK, there's been some regression. But there's still enough to like there that I don't just want to totally wash my hands of them. So I feel a little more optimistic, I guess, than Chris. Though I don't know that the prescription in terms of what you should be doing with Davis Martin is any different. I mean, it's not the time to sell him. We're not to the point of dropping him. It's just maybe you said him, because two of the last three have been so bad. Yeah, I don't think my prescription is any different. I will say this. If you're a fan of the Stuff Plus models, you are probably not a fan of Davis Martins, because by the pitching plus model on fan graphs, he is the second worst pitcher in baseball. And he's bottom 10 in Stuff Plus. Now, there are pitchers who are good who have poor stuff ratings, showed him an aga. I think part of that's just spliters are hard to model. And he has much better control, or at least the model that he thinks he does. And historically, David Martin has not had great control. So yeah, like I said, I think we're in a similar place. Just I'm a, I'm half glass half empty, Scott's glass half full. Yeah. But ultimately, this is, we're still figuring out who David Martin is. So it's, there's plenty of justification to be on either side of that and deserving of skepticism either way. Let's continue on to Michael King, who was not great at the Cardinals. Four to third, innings five hits, three runs, three walks, only one strike out, only four swinging strikes on 93 pitches. And he had an awesome starting as the Dodgers on May 18th. And five starts since he has a 641 ERA, a 146 whip. And just a 7.7% swinging strike rate. So that is a problem. Where is Michael King on the worryometer? Yeah, he's up there for me. He's probably, probably like an eight. These last five starts, there's just been nothing good about them, nothing. I mean, he already has a tendency toward control problems and home runs when he's going poorly and to not, to, to be getting so few strikeouts during, like he's not doing anything well at all. And obviously, he's, we've seen enough good starts for Michael King over the past few years, over his time with the Padres, that like, I think he's capable of turning it around. But, you know, he was injured a lot of last year. And I don't know. It just doesn't look good. Yeah, I'd say like a 7 on this one. I think he's better than Davis Martin, who might have been six or seven, but he's starting from a different place. And I, I don't know, man, Michael King has fewer strikeouts than walks in three of his past five starts. One of the two where he had more strikeouts than walks was a two strikeout start. So it's not like that was a great one. I don't know. It's 4.6 per nine and his last five stars, like strikeouts. Okay, strikeouts, sorry. I mean, that's not even worse. That's even worse as a strikeout rate than it is as a walker. Yeah, so that, and like, Michael King is a guy who does not have phenomenal stuff. He's got, when he's at his best, he commands the ball really well, keeps the ball down, dots the sides of the zone really well. And it might just be that there's a really slim margin for error here. And he needs to execute it a really high level to get away with it. And he's not right now. I'm not dropping him, but yeah, I'm definitely worried. Yeah, it's kind of Dustin May-esque in a way, I think, for Michael King where like, if you watch him pitch, it's all like Giff worthy, like, like amazing movement on all his pitches. It doesn't necessarily rate out well for the stuff metrics, but if you watch a pitch, I think because he gets so much movement on his pitches, it's just hard for him to throw strikes at times. And that is clearly an issue, but on top of that, he's just not getting whiffs right now. Does lineup for two starts next week? Who are the two worst matchups you can imagine right now? Because-- But they are both at home, but it's two very tough lineups. - Nationals and Dodgers. - Dodgers and Braves. - Okay. - It's pretty bad. - I think in a category's league, you might be fading Michael King next week in a point's league, maybe it's a take a shot, but it is a risk you want for sure. This last game, this might be more of a drop home meter than a worryometer, 'cause I kinda feel like the worryometers is a 10 with this guy, but Merrill Kelly, man, I kind of think he might just be watched, man. He got crushed by the Angels. Five in a third, 11 hits, six runs allowed, two homers allowed in this one. I know we had a recent stretch where he looked better. He looked like Michael King, but overall this season, the ratios are terrible, the strikeouts are way down, the walks are way up. He entered this start with a 718 Xe-Harray. He's allowing nearly two home runs per nine this season, and he's an older pitcher. So if you want to give me a worryometer, give me a drop home meter, what do we do with Merrill Kelly? - 10 on the worryometer, or yeah, 10 on the worryometer, like eight on the drop home meter? - Yeah, it sounds fine to me. I'd be fine dropping Merrill Kelly, most anywhere, you know, getting a deep enough league that Kyle Freelens, your best choice on the way of the way of the way. He might as well hold on to Merrill Kelly, but yeah, the thing about Merrill Kelly is that even at his best, it's not like he's kind of succeeding in spite of himself. You know, and he's done that for so long that you expect it to continue. And I'm saying it might, it might continue because it's not like you can look at all these signs that, oh, he's just not, he just doesn't have it anymore. We're really just basing it on results. And because the margin for error for him is so thin, just because of the kind of picture he is, doesn't have that wipe out stuff. Well, the other side of that coin is the margin for success is so thin. And it wouldn't surprise me if, you know, we're dropping him now, they're coming point a month from now, it's like, oh, Merrill Kelly's top picture on fantasy. Like, wouldn't it surprise me at all? But you can't trust him right now. The upside is only so high. I think if you need to free up the spot, he's perfectly good choice to drop. I didn't have three hitters on this list as well, but we don't have enough time to really go in depth on all three of them. But if there's one that you are actually worried about, let me know, I looked through the past 30 days and all three of these guys have just been dreadful. Trade Turner, last 30 hitting 180, 534 OPS, Austin Riley, 165 553 OPS, Mookybets 212, 602 OPS. Are you actually worried about any of these three, Turner, Riley, Betts? - I think you have to be worried about all three. - Yeah. - We're talking about, with the exception of Riley, we're talking about guys in their 30s. Riley's like 28, 29, right? I think 29. - But this is like three years, four years in a row that we've seen as a client in his production. - I believe it's three. And with Betts, I mean, the underlying numbers aren't as bad. So there's reason to hope that he will be better. And I think he will be better. He's not a 201 hitter, but I'm not sure Mookybets is an impact player anymore, which is fine. He's 33 years old, right? Like that happens. Not everybody's Freddie Freeman. But yeah, I do think Mookybets probably shouldn't be like a top 100 player anymore, yeah. - If I'm ranking my level of concern, most concerned to least concern, I go Riley Betts, Turner. I'm actually not that concerned about Turner. But, I mean, and I wouldn't be from Betts just by the underlying data, which actually looks pretty good. Like he said, Chris, it's just he was already underwhelming last year, and now it continues. It's a no- - It's a benefit of the doubt can we give him? - Right. - Mm-hmm. - All right, let's keep things moving here. And Wavrewire hitters from Tuesday's action. Ranked these three corner infielders. Alec Bohm hit his ninth home run. Last 34 games, he's hitting 288 with eight homers. He's looked a lot like Alec Bohm. Curtis Meade hit his 11th home run. And he is playing more recently. He's still sitting Alec every third or fourth game. Not against every single right handed pitcher, but overall, he's been pretty good. That's Curtis Meade. And Cody Clemens, he just keeps on making things happen. Two for four with his 11th home run. He has five home runs in 14 June games. He has started every against every right handed pitcher except two this season for the twins. And he has started against seven of the past eight lefties as well. So Cody Clemens playing quite a bit. He's first, second, and outfield eligible. Scott, how would you rank these three corner guys? Clemens, Meade, and Alec Bohm. - I think I'd go boom number one. I mean, he's looked like himself for the past month and a half now, even though the overall numbers are still in the tank. 288 home runs, OPS approaching 850 in his last 34 games. That's Alec Bohm. And so obviously we have the longest track record there. We know his normal, his fantasy relevant basically in any format. So Bohm's number one, Meade's number two, I like overall. I like what I've seen even though he slowed down recently. I'm not totally out on Cody Clemens though. I know it's the biggest stretch of the three given that he's been a minor league journeyman most of his career. But you know, he hit 19 home runs last year for the twins. And in his last 33 games, Cody Clemens is betting 297 with eight home runs, OPS nearly 900, only a 16% strike outrate. - He's even got six deals this season, which is a career high. - Average exit velocity for the year is 92.5 miles per hour. The max is a little underwhelming, but I guess it all looks good for a guy who was showed something already last year with the 19 home runs. 30 years old, I don't, he's probably not gonna keep it up. But if he was a 23 year old or a 24 year old just entering the league doing this, I'd be pretty excited. - Yeah. - I think so for sure. I think Cody Clemens, most useful in a daily lineup league, a deeper one for sure. But even in a roto league, you know, where you have a corner, a middle, five outfielder spots, like you know, you can find ways to get Cody Clemens in your lineup. I assume we would take Gell-Off over all three of these guys, right? Boom, mead and Clemens. - It's close with Boom. I might lean Boom in a points league even, but in categories, yeah. Gell-Off. - Spencer Jones flash you some power, one for three with two walks and his second home run in eight games since returning. He's hitting 318 with two home runs, also a 35% strike array during that stretch, which I think is to be expected, only playing against right-handed pitching right now. But I mentioned this kind of second tier of young outfielders earlier, Dylan Cruz, Spencer Jones, Henry Bolte, Chris, how would you rank those three? Jones Cruz Bolte. - Probably Cruz Jones Bolte. - Just because Jones has a, I wanna say he has a clear expiration date, but it's honestly not clear how clear that is, because Judge is probably gone for five, six more weeks, and who knows, a stand will ever play again, frankly? I mean, that's always on the table with him, and just had a setback with his calf too. - Yeah, Grisham's already heard. So yeah, I think Jones has some runway. I just, I think 35% strike out rate is probably the floor for his profile, and that can work if you're Joey Gallo and Mune Talk and Murkame, and that's the end of the list, basically, of guys who have made that work, and Murkame's only made it work for 50 games. So I think it's unlikely that it works with Spencer Jones. So I would still take Dylan Cruz over him, but Jones probably has more upside. - The most upsetting part to me about the stat cast being messed up for a stretch in that Yankees White Sox game is that we don't have the data on the home run Spencer Jones hit because it was a bullet. Like I was worried. Like I tried to see what fan that ball hit in the stands to make sure it was okay, the way it bounced once it reached the seats, I don't know. Maybe my eyes need to be checked, but to me, it looked like the sort of home run that would be a candidate for the hardest hit home run ever. Like it was a screamer. Who's got that kind of roll pop? - So there is this tweet earlier, it was at 7.43 pm. I don't know if that's after the home run was hit, but I guess it would. I mean, this is from the Talk and Yankees account, but they said Spencer Jones is one of 13 Yankees to hit multiple home runs with an ex-evalosity of 111 miles per hour or better since 2015, and he only has two home runs, so I assume one of those was this one. - So were they just guessing, oh, that had to be over 111? - Yeah, I don't know how they would have got that data, but it was hit really hard. That was also his first pulled fly ball. I guess if you consider it a fly ball, maybe it's a line drive, but his first pulled fly ball in the major so far. He's hitting the ball hard, but a lot of it has been like on the ground. ground or just straight away fly balls so far this season. Some waiver wire pitcher is Debbie Matthews, bounced back at the ranger, seven innings, two runs, four strikeout, zero walks. He used his slider. I'm not sure if he used them, did he use, yeah, he used more cutters in this one, but it's slider and cutter were very good. I kind of feel like he should just use those pitches more. I think last time out, we told people they could drop him. I still don't think this is enough to read ads, Debbie Matthews, but he does line up for two starts next week. Andre Palante, another strong outing for him against the potrase, and their offense is terrible right now. I'll let another sleeper pitcher this week. You're doing pretty good here, Scotty. Last six starts. If not for Jared Jones, I'd be killing it. To 88 ERA 0.99 whip over the last six outings for Palante, he also lines up for two next week. And Slade Sikoni, a solid outing five and two thirds, one run, four strikeouts at the brewers. He has been emphasizing his cutter more. I thought a slider a lot more in the start as well. I'm not sure that we're there yet with Slade Sikoni, but he's making changes and he's looked a little bit better. Christie, have any genuine interest in Sikoni Andre Palante. Debbie Matthews. Don't go to me. I hate when pitchers have good starts and my reaction is no, I don't think they're good at all. And I think that's basically true of all these guys. Matthews can miss some bats, but overall, he has not really been striking guys out this season. The velocity's down and it's really affected that effect that part of his game. So I, even this one's seven innings, four strikeouts, 10 whiffs. I just can't get excited about it. Palante is probably my favorite of this group. I think he's a really good streamer right now. He, like, the Cardinals have a great defense and he gets a ton of ground balls. And so I think he's going to have stretches where he's pretty good. He's got a two-start week versus Miami and Arizona. I think he's worth starting next week. Yeah. I was just for my cats. I don't know why they're fighting. I saw you carry one of them in, like, on its pillow before. And she looked so docile, but I guess not anymore. No, they're awake and they're angry. Palante on the season, by the way, he has made changes to the pitch mix. He's using his forcing fastball less. It's more sinkers, more curves. I think it's a really good idea for Andre Palante, who is pitching very well right now. One. There's a good piece on his transformation and fan graphs today, actually, or yesterday, one of those days. One deeper name. We have Robert Gasser here who pitched well against the Guardians 5 and 2/3. Shut out with five strikeouts. 13 whiffs on 92 pitches. Yet another brewers pitcher with a really good force-eam fastball. I think the Guardians are just prime time, prime team to stream against right now with no Jose Ramirez in that lineup. So obviously this was a really good matchup. But I am in deeper leagues. I'm kind of intrigued with Robert Gasser the same way I have been with, like, chain drawing. What do you think about Gasser or Chris? No, no, I was just going to ask, do the hevertation spots beyond the next week or two? Yeah, I mean, that's the quote. If Woodruff is back, then I guess one of Drow and Err Gasser probably gets the boot, right? And Logan Henderson probably expected, I think he's expected back in early July is what I saw. He hasn't even started rehabs, Simon, yet though, right? No. Yeah. I like more of what I've seen from Drow and then from what I've done from Gasser. I mean, Gasser, it was a good start. But you know, with a favorable matchup, like he said, he has a very, very high fly ball rate like among the highest I've ever seen before. And in his previous start, he allowed four home runs, which can happen when you're giving up that many fly balls. So between that and the uncertain rotations, but I don't, I don't think there's much to see here with Gasser, at least for not for right now. All right, three hitters trending up and lots of names that we keep talking about, but they keep doing stuff. Show Hey, O'Connor, he has really picked up the hitter production hit his 15th home run last 30 games. He's hitting 365 nine homeers, 26 runs and 26 RBI in a 30 game stretch. That's awesome stuff. Therefore, O'Connor, boba, shut another multi hit game. He has five straight multi hit games. He is hitting 362 in June with three home runs and 13 RBI and PCA, a lead off bomb has 14th. PS home run in three of his last four and updated numbers during this awesome stretch for him. Last 16 435 eight homeers four seals and OPS over 1400 during that stretch. Anything to add on the Oh, Tony, the hitter, boba, shut Pete Crow, Armstrong. I think boba, shut is just more or less back. So I'm comfortable starting him anywhere. Did you guys mention that Pee Crow Armstrong had the unnatural cycle yesterday? I mentioned that he did it in reverse order. I didn't know that he had a name. That's just what I'm calling it. Oh, yeah. It's a natural cycle when you do it. Single double triple homeers. So call it the unnatural cycle. It's pretty crazy stuff, man. To do it in reverse, that's the end. And then to get picked off after the single is extremely funny. Nobody will, nobody wanted to celebrate his cycle when he got back to the dugout because he got picked off. Extremely Pee Crow Armstrong stuff there. Look, I, you know, the Simpson's disco stew joke where he's got the vinyl, the disco record sales chart from 1972 to 1975. And he's it's going up. And he's like, if these trends continue, hey, I don't know if that was a good disco. So we're not don't do that with Pete, Armstrong, because we know that he's a highly volatile player. Don't react to the bad stuff or the good stuff. Just stay steady. He's going to be super volatile. He is walking a lot more this season. Maybe that's going to change it. But I generally think there's going to be some bad moving forward. There's going to be a lot of good. He's an awesome player. He's never as good or as bad as he looks at the extremes, you know? Yeah. I think that's what I said. Five pitchers trending up. Let's get a quick thought on each. We already spoke about Logan Gilbert. So I guess it's four pitchers trending up. Hey, Zuzel Lazardo, a strong outing here against the Marlins. And rough start to the season. 11 starts since 286 ERA 125 whip. Scott, I think the whip will remain high. I mean, partly because of Hey Zuzel Lazardo, he still will have like some of those blow-ups starts right now. And then the Philly's defense also just rates out really poorly this season. And I think that will continue to hinder Lazardo a little bit. Yeah. I was going to want trying to figure out why the whip is on the high side during that stretch because it's not like he has control issues really less than three walks per nine. But the Babip coming into the start 343, which, okay, you could say that's bad luck, but you know, might be bad defense too. He gives up some of the weakest contact of any pitcher. Lazardo, a lot of it on the ground, which, you know, again, if it's not a good defense behind you, they could backfire. But in theory, a lot of the data here looks as ace like is anybody. And so overall, I'm optimistic about Lazardo. But yeah, I guess, I guess factoring in the defense, if there is going to be a shortfall, it's going to be the whip. Check out the worst two starts is 317. All right, baby. I didn't think you had to do that. I didn't even think you have to. Yeah. I only did it this coming into this year because of the pitch tipping and the two bad starts last year. Mm-hmm. Yep. Another gem by Reed Debtmer's this time at the D-back seven shutout innings, only three strikeouts and this one only four swinging strikes on 90 pitches. Clearly did not have his best stuff. I thought it was still really encouraging that he threw a lot of strikes, managed to avoid hard contact. Last five starts, one 36-year-a, a 0.52 whip for Reed Debtmer's. He's up to 89% rostered on CBS. 70% on Yahoo. I know it's a lot of daily line up leagues and there's a lot of streaming. But if you play on Yahoo, pick up Reed Debtmer's and just leave him on your team. He's really, really good. Chris, any other thoughts on Debtmer's? If you had told me that in Reed Debtmer's first start immediately after we finally welcomed him with open arms into the circle of trust, he would go out and strike out three. I would have been guaranteeing it was a disaster. So I agree with you. The fact that he didn't have his stuff, the slider was a little off, 1.1 mile per hour down. The movement profile was different. The fact that he was still able to generate weak contact and keep base runners off the board, I think it's a good sign. It's not going to work every time if he's not missing bats, but I think that's a good sign of some growth for Reed Debtmer's. Jorasperson, another great outing this time at the Dodgers. Seven innings of one run ball, seven strike outs, a 0 walks very, very tough loss from here. He's been kicking with on 102 pitches and he has now gone seven innings in four of his last five. And last week I told everyone I moved them inside my top 25 starting pitchers, got very aggressive, but Rasperson, great ratios, strike outs are up, good ground balls and he's given us length. So I think he's earned that rise in the rankings. Yep. It happens more and more where I go through the box scores for the night and make my notes. I try to figure out what's the most interesting thing I can say about this player and his performance. And then you just come out and say it before I even get a chance to. It's something that I battle with because I want to like preview the player, but yeah, I could probably say less. It's fine. It doesn't mean you're doing a bad job. It just makes me feel superfluous at times. But yeah, yeah, did Drew Rasperson, he's getting legitimate A's volume now with those 47 and ining starts in his last five. And I think he's must start across the board. - Foster Griffin, last name I'll mention on this list. Two rough starts in the middle of May. Five starts since 193 ERA, 0.96 whip. 26 strikeouts over 28 innings. He's 84% rostered, so not really out there anywhere. But he's a spark for those in points leagues. I don't know, Chris, maybe Foster Griffin's just like, pretty good. - I don't think he is. - Yeah. But of course I don't. And if you're inclined to like, that's me. I'm not here. - Well, I know, but it's just like, you know, the guy who doesn't really get strikeouts and gives up a lot of home runs, but is getting away with the-- - But he has to get a decent number of strikeouts. - He gets a decent, but it's not like a great, it's like what, a 20% strikeout rate? - It's the best thing he does is he's got good control and he misses a slightly above average number of a bat. He gets a lot of weak contact. - He's also given up 15 homers. He's got a 459 fit. He had a 437 XERA coming into the start. Nine of his 15 home runs have come with the base is empty. - I just like that you're undermining your own authority by saying, of course, I don't like. But like, I, 'cause I know, I know that like, one of the things that happens is there's pitchers who are pitching, who are getting good results. And I say, well, yeah, but they're not good and then they have good starts. And it's like, oh, you're gonna start boating. - Chandler and it's like, no, I just, I don't think he's that good. Like, I think he's gotten lucky, but it's the distribution of the home runs that he's allowed. Of the 15 home runs, he's allowed nine have come with the base is empty. Four have come with a runner on first. Only two have come with runners on, with two runners on. - Is that an abnormal distribution? - It seems like it to me. - Yeah. (laughing) - I can't deny. I just, - Maybe it's up, but like the peripherals are bad here. It's, it's, well, the peripherals are not fantasy relevant for a guy who does not miss a lot of bats. It's a 437 XERA, a 459 fit. I think he's a 4 plus ERA pitcher. If you wanna use him against the right matchups, that's fine, but I just don't think this is a must-roster pitcher. - I think he's that bad home run luck is the thing. So I don't trust the fit specifically 'cause he is less than 40% fly ball rate, 88 mile per hour average of velocity. That should not be one of the most home-er-prone pitchers in baseball. 23% pulled air rate. - But he did a lot. He was allowing a 12% barrel rate entering the start. That's a pretty high number. - Yeah, I mean, the XERA is 433. Like the, the, the stat that is based on the contact that he's giving up suggests that he has been lucky. So I, he reminds me of kind of like what Matthew Boyd was doing last year, kind of what Andrew Abbott was doing last year in that, like we weren't blown away by the underlying numbers, but everything was just good enough. That's like, yeah, yeah, you can trust him for a quality start more often than not. That's, that's where I am with Foster Griffin, I think. Like if he gets pummeled his next two outings, I'm not, I'm not saying he's undropable at that point, but for the moment, I feel okay having a moment roster. - Yeah, that's fine. I just, I expect you're going to drop him at some point. - I guess that's the way it goes. - Especially in a head-toed point, I would hold on to him there with the, with the RPM. - The Spark eligibility. - Yeah, just two pitchers. I just don't really know what to make of right now. A garracole, again, it doesn't help that we didn't have the stack-ass data completely in this game. Six sittings, two runs, six strikeouts, but if I have this number correct, 6.9% swinging strike rate through five starts so far this season, it's just, and it was trending down before he got hurt too, so I just don't really know what to make of that right now. And Justin Robleski, a strong outing here against the raise. He screams so high. Maybe he's a someone that can outperform this stuff. He's obviously pitches for the best team in baseball. He's got a good defense behind him as well. - He's got, do you have any idea? Do you have a strong lead on garracole or Justin Robleski? - Oh, I mean, I think calls worth talking about as in the worryometer because swinging strike rate since returning is like 6%. It's like basement level. - Yeah. - And maybe it's just-- - No, maybe it's just a Robleski. - Maybe it's just a small sample fluke for Cole there, but I can't help but feel a little uneasy about it given the nature of the injuries coming back from and that's a pretty important stat. It certainly is for somebody for the way Cole pitches. Robleski, of course, is not a bad miser himself. I know you quipped to that, his is about that low. I can give a rose colored glass as a glass have full take on foster Griffin. I struggle to do that with Robleski. I just, I don't see enough there to think he can be an even passable major league starter and yet he might go to the All-Star game with the way his numbers look right now. So I don't know. You don't want to dismiss somebody who's been this good for almost half a season now, but I think this is a clear sell high. - All right, again, that was Justin Robleski. Let's get into some hitting leftovers. We got a big old game from George Springer. A sock into shoe, his seventh home run, his fourth stolen base. South Stewart, big game hit his 14th home run he had four RBI. Ben Rice hit his 20th home run. Did notice the power has slowed down a little bit lately. Four home runs at his past 22 games. Zach Netto, two for five with a triple and his 14th home run. Strikeouts, just a really, really massive this season for Zach Netto. Mike Trout, he's turning back up last seven games. Has three home runs and two steals. Brian Reynolds, we spoke about earlier. And some big name catchers are back. Drake Baldwin's first at bat back from injury. He hit a lead off home run. That game was suspended due to rain. They'll pick it back up on Wednesday. And welcome back to Cal Raleigh. One for three with a walk. And they go ahead to run single in the seventh inning of that one. A lot of names here. Anything you guys would like to quickly touch on? - I am glad that the Braves game was being suspended and not canceled. Because that means that the 473 foot home run, I think that Drake Baldwin hit will stand. And that makes it the longest home run in baseball this season. Even counting all those fake home runs that were hit in Las Vegas. So that was cool. I think it was the first to bat of the game coming off the IL. Yeah, it was great. - Yeah, I was hit lead off. Yeah, that was a that was thunder struck that ball. - It was weird as it was only 111 miles an hour, I think, off the bat. - 112 footing. - It kept carrying. - Yeah. I mean, that's pretty big number, man. - No, not 13 EV. - Relatively speaking, I'm just saying it wasn't like one of the hardest hit balls of the season. - Right. - But it just kept going. - Some pitching leftover is Dylan C.S. A schoolless outing, but struggled with control at the Red Sox. Five shut out, four hits, four walks, seven strikeouts there. - Framber Valdez got his revenge, kind of. They didn't wind up winning the game at the Asher. - I will have my vengeance in this life or the next. - Six innings, one uner-and-run. I actually have seen that movie. Six strikeouts, the three walks, four Valdez. And Peyton Toley, he was just kind of meh against the blue jays. Five innings, three runs, six strikeouts, two homers loud. Scott anything on Toley, Valdez and Dylan C.S. - I think we kind of saw the downside to C.S. here. I mean, it was five shut out innings, but he only went five innings. And actually, he's gone less than six innings and eight of his 13 starts. - That's usually pretty normal for him. - That happens. - Right. But I know last time it was like, "Oh, he's an ace again." And he was doing some things better. He's expanded his arsenal. I think he's going to be more stable. But he still has volume concerns there that might put him a little outside of the ace discussion. Toley's looked pretty ordinary of late. The strikeout numbers have not been that impressive recently. I'm not freaking out over it or anything, but we're still calibrating how valuable he is in fantasy. And I feel like I feel like I might be moving him down slightly when I update my rankings later today. - I think that's reasonable. I also just want to point out, Frembre Valdez is jumping the shark on his inherent inconsistency. Have you seen his game log? Since the start of May, here's the runs allowed. Seven to four, one, four, one, four, zero. Just bench him the next start. Starting the one after that. Bench him the start after that. It's just funny. Very, very frustrating season there for Frembre Valdez. But a good start here for him. Call to the bullpen for the nationals. Gus Varlin got the ninth with a three run lead. He allowed a solo homer, but picked up his sixth save. Varlin has the last two saves for the nationals. It was Brad Lord for one before that. Clayton Beater for the two before that. I feel like it's kind of more of the same. It mostly matchups here for the nationals. Stay aligned. They don't have a closer and they never will ever again for the blue jays. Louis Varlin got the final four outs. Three via strikeout for his 13th save. He has been much. He's been a little bit chakier lately, but overall his season long numbers are amazing. For the Reds, Tony Santi and got the ninth with a two run lead. He allowed a hit, but struck out two for his fourth save. He has the last two saves for the Reds. Emilio Pagan is getting closer, but probably is still a couple of weeks away. And they just don't really have anyone else. So I guess it's Tony Santi and for now. For the Brewers, Abner Rebae got the eighth with a one run lead. He struck out two for the hold. Trevor McGill got the ninth. He struck out two for his ninth save. And McGill has four of the past five saves for the Brewers. Chad Patrick got one last week when McGill was dealing with, I believe it was side-sourness, but I think McGill is pretty clearly the guy right now, right? Yes, sir. For the Cardinals, Riley O'Brien got the ninth with a one run lead. He walked one, but picked up his 18th save. He did have a rough stretch in late May, but now has scoreless outings in four of his last five. So it's good sign for him. For the Astros, Josh Hader picked up his third save for the Rockies, Jaden Hill picked up his first save. Don't think it matters at all. For the Mariners, Andres Munoz picked up his 11th save. Nice to see him back on the mound. He was dealing with a back injury. For the Dodgers, Tanner Scott picked up his ninth save. He has the last five Dodgers saves. So feels like he is very clearly the guy until Edwin D. has his back. And then for the Pirates, Gregory Soto got the ninth with a one run lead. He allowed two hits, but also struck out to for his 11th save of the year. To stream or not to stream on Wednesday, we have Zach Latel against the Royals, Peter Lambert against the Tigers, Kyle Leahy against the Padres. Jari Richie against the Giants, Brennan Sprote against the Guardians, Javier Sade against the Rockies in Chicago. I was hoping we could laugh at Chris behind his back for insisting on starting it. We're good. I'm glad we didn't talk about it, but I was going to take my L on that one. I was going to raise my hand. He just stinks. Yeah. That's how much has been a bad trade for everybody. That was my thesis and why I didn't want to start against the Rockies. That's a good call. Can I interest you in Javier Sade against the Rockies? No. I would be surprised if he had a good start. I wanted either, but this is a bad day. I think I'd say Zach Latel against the Royals just because he's been on a good run recently. Like I said yesterday, when we were talking about this slate, I don't think the good starts are worth the bad ones with Latel. Look, man, how many major leak headers do the Guardians actually have right now? Yeah. I think they're the clear team to pick on. Brennan Sprote, very volatile pitcher and he can get rocked. I would say that about pretty much anyone here on Wednesday's slate. Now Leahy just another one too. I don't think he's very good, but this Padre is lineup is just dreadful right now. So if I had to choose three, I'd probably say a sod Sprote and Leahy, but man, it is gross and it is risky. On Thursday, we have Shane Drowing against that same Guardians lineup, Jack Leiter against the twins, Shane Boz at the Mariners, Sean Manayat, the Phillies, Lenin Roup at the Braves, Martin Perez against the Giants, Matthew Libertor at the Royals. There are probably five from Thursday that I would prefer to anyone on Wednesday personally. Boz is okay, Leiter's okay, Drowing's okay. I'm going to trust Roup, but yeah, I'm going Drowing Boz, Manaya Leiter Roup. I'm not okay with Martin Perez against the Giants, to be honest. I think I would go Bavis. Boz, Drowing and Manaya would probably be my top three from Thursday. We are going to wrap there for Scott Chris. I am Frank, thanks as always for tuning in to Fanny CB's ball today. Please make sure to follow and leave a five star rating on Adler's Spotify and we'll be back again tomorrow. Bye bye. [Music] third exclusively on Paramount Plus.