Woman Realizes Her Spoiled Sister Just Executed Someone

This episode is brought to you by TXU Energy. For the first time ever, Texans have an energy plan that combines free nights all year with daytime summer savings. It's called Free Nights and Cool Summer. You get free nights every night, all year long, plus a 25% bonus toward your daytime use all summer. It's a first-of-its-kind plan created for how Texans actually use energy. Discover how much more you could save with Free Nights and Cool Summer. TXU Energy. Energy for everything. Visit TXU.com for more information. Rep number 1-0-0-0-4. Hi, thank you for coming down. We're going to go right over here. Where is my son? Um, you're Devin? Yes. We kind of sped back here a little bit. Your ex-boyfriend, is it? He died. This is 26-year-old Devin Schreiner, and she's learning that the father of her five-year-old son has just been brutally executed in broad daylight. By a masked hitman. I heard three thump, thump, thump. Okay. And then I saw a guy running in that direction. While officers chase the shooter through backyards and surrounding streets, the killers are already two steps ahead. The hitman who carried out this homicide has been working for months with someone inside law enforcement, giving them amazing results. There's a major advantage over the police. And as detectives try to catch up, the murder duo's plan is already moving forward, because there's still one more person who needs to die. That's off your phone. What else did you want to show? It's just after 12 p.m. on a Wednesday in Longmont. Three-year-old Jason Schaefer, a single father to a five-year-old boy, is working his usual postal route through a quiet neighborhood, just like he has countless times before. He's nearing the end of his shift and heading towards one of his final stops for the day in Somerset Meadows. Jason doesn't know it yet, but for the past three months, someone has been tracking his movements, waiting for this exact moment, and making sure this delivery is going to be his last. 9-1-1, how do you address the emergency? Yes, hi. Our post office guy was just shot. I heard four shots, and he's down. Did anyone witness this? We saw someone run. We heard four shots. I couldn't identify him. I just saw a backside of a man running away after four shots. Is that 205? Can you give us a different map, Paige? One second, I'll get blood and switch out. Go. Here. Bring him over. Pick him up. Pick him up. I'm not picking him up. He's had no air. No air. Stand by. Just throw him on the bed. Unfortunately, by the time officers and medics arrive, the man has stopped breathing, and with CPR failing, he has rushed to the hospital in a final attempt to save his life. Officers are now left with an unusual crime scene and far more questions than answers. They need to determine why Jason was targeted, search the surrounding area for any witnesses, and track down the unknown shooter. Officers don't know this yet, but they are running out of time. Because Jason isn't the only target of the shooter. At this point, the commotion in the unusually calm neighborhood causes many residents to come out of their houses. And while most of them do so out of curiosity, one of the residents approaches an arriving officer claiming he has the exact information they need. I need you to go that way. Let's go. Let's go. About five or ten minutes ago, I heard three thump, thump, thump. Okay. And then I saw a guy with kind of about a sturdy guy with a jacket and running to that direction. Just start, let's start working south for a perimeter south, and then we'll get him set up east. Hey, Pierce, last information, he was running southbound and then headed southwest from Heather Hill Circle diagonally through the houses. With the neighbor confirming that the suspect, was a hooded man wearing a jacket, officers believe they're looking for a male suspect. That description will soon prove dangerously misleading. But the neighbor also reveals that the suspect fled south, making the next objective for police clear, contain the area and locate the armed suspect. Leave it. Come on. Zip. Zip. All right. Zip. Leave it. Zip. As officers searched the neighborhood using drones and canine units, they find no sign of the suspect. By this point, nearly an hour has passed, yet investigators still know little about the victim or why someone would execute a mail carrier in broad daylight. So with no clear motive and few leads, they turn to the residents for answers, hoping someone knew Jason or witnessed something that could explain the shooting. Luckily, one of the residents, is about to provide police with a piece of evidence that will prove crucial in identifying the shooter. I just saw the shooter running away. And I didn't see anything in his hands or anything like that. Just a jogging pace. He wasn't even running fast. He was just jogging. I ran into my neighbor and you'll have to talk to her across the street because she actually spoke with the postman. Okay. Minutes before the shooting. Hello. Have officers been over here by chance to talk to you guys? No. When it first happened, no. Were you out here? Did you hear or see anything? Yeah. So I was checking my mail at the same time that a guy threw a BB gun so I saw a BB gun. Oh, you're good. And I saw a guy, black, red, blue face mask, walking towards you. Oh, okay. All right. So walking towards here. And honestly, as soon as I closed my door, I heard the gunshots. And saw that guy take off. So here he is walking up. Oh, he walked around, but he walked behind those houses. And then you'll hear the gunshots actually at about 15 seconds. And then he runs back that way. Must live somewhere in this neighborhood if they were coming in this way. This is exactly what officers need. Although the images are difficult to make out, detectives finally get their first look at the suspect. The dark clothing, hood, and masks support the witness's description. More importantly, the footage shows the figure approaching the mail carrier calmly before opening fire. There is no visible argument and no hesitation, suggesting the attack was anything but random. The shooter appears to know exactly who Jason is and exactly where he would be. As detectives study the footage, others contact Jason's supervisors, hoping they might have an idea of who's responsible for the shooting. However, once they arrive, the officers will discover that this homicide is only one part of a much bigger, deranged plan that had been building for the past year. And that Jason's murder may have only been the beginning. Hi. You can stay seated or whatever you like to do. So my name is Sean. I'm a detective with Long Long PV. Uh-huh. Well, what's your involvement with all of this? Um, I'm the supervisor, but he's also a really good friend. Okay. Um, he's been, like, telling me what's going on with his situation and everything right now. His name is Jason? Jason Schaefer. He just, on Friday, his lawyer just filed papers for, they've been going through a big custody battle, but she hasn't been speaking to him at all. So he filed some more papers so that he could get more time, and I know she probably would have been served today. She also works for the post office. But in Loveland, um, she showed up one day and said she was there to help. And as soon as he left, she left. Like, she didn't even help us or anything. It was weird. And then the other day, I caught her in there going through his stuff and his case. So this is. This is Jason's. Six-year-old. Like, the mother of his, of his six-year-old? Okay. Where's the six-year-old now? Probably with the mom. With the mom. Okay. Well, what is her name? Her name is Devon. Devon. D-E-V-A-N. And then it's Shriner as her last name. Jason's supervisor goes on to explain that Devon and Jason had worked at the same post office, but their arguments eventually became so serious that Devon was transferred to another location. They also learned that, coincidentally, just two days earlier, Jason had filed for full custody over their five-year-old son. With that, police finally have their final word. They finally have their first real lead on who might know more about what happened to Jason. But they're still only scratching the surface of how deep this entire scheme goes. If you don't do this, aging numbers will go down. knows where you live and he has his guns. - I need my son. I am worried about my son. - I think the gig is up. People don't go around just shooting a bunch of people. - You specifically had it out for Jason. - Can you explain that? - As officers prepare to investigate Devin further, they receive devastating news from the hospital. Jason has died from his injuries, officially turning the investigation into a homicide. It's a first of its kind plan, created for how Texans actually use energy. TXU Energy, energy for everything. Visit txu.com for more information, rep number 10004. - With Devin now emerging as a possible suspect, detectives know they need to speak with her. There's just one problem. At this point, they have no evidence connecting her to the shooting. If anything, the surveillance footage appears to point away from her, with the person fleeing the scene looking like a man. So investigators need to understand exactly what was happening between her and Jason and whether there was anyone close to them who might know something they don't. That leads them to Devin's younger son, Jason. Devin's younger sister, Rosa. While detectives aren't sure how much insight she'll be able to provide, they bring her to the police department for an interview. And as the interview starts, it quickly becomes clear that Rosa is someone more than investigators initially thought, and her statements are about to flip their case upside down. - Hi, Rosa. Do you have a water and everything? - Yeah. - Okay. I'm gonna shut this door, but just for privacy, okay? I can only imagine. I can only imagine what you're going through. I'm not even gonna pretend to understand, but I just wanna get to know you a little bit more, and we'll take it at your pace. If you wanna take a break or anything, we can do that. Okay? - Yeah, that's okay. We want it. - Okay. Yeah, I hear ya. - Very well. - We'll have lots going on. Can you kind of walk me through, maybe by starting on how your and Devin's relationship was? - So around the beginning of this year, we moved in with her here in Little Lark. - Wow. - We lived together for a bit in her house, and then we had an apartment together in June. And then there's a situation between her and I. She kicked me out anyways, in the night. - Okay. - But, sorry about that, Devin. - Okay. - Here, Rosa reveals something the investigators never expected. It turns out, after she was kicked out of Devin's apartment, she moved in with Jason and started dating him. For detectives, that gives Devin yet another possible reason to resent Jason, especially if her sister and ex-boyfriend were now taking care of her child together. But while this gives them another possible motive to look into, Rosa isn't done surprising the detectives just yet. Because if what she says next is true, her sister might be completely innocent. - And I know this is probably not true. This is probably not easy to talk about, but what was their relationship like that you know of? - I know it was on and off because she was with different people during that time, so. - Okay. Do you know why they were on and off again for that long? - Because she cheated on him. - That was the main source of their arguments in their relationship was 'cause she was cheating on him? - In the past, she, this was before I lived with her, she kind of threatened Jason. She was like, well, I don't remember what the threat was about, but if you don't do this, AJ knows where you live and he has his guns. And he even told me, he was like, I was worried about that for a while, but now I don't, I'm not worried about it. - Mm-hmm. - When they said he was shot, of course, you know, I immediately thought of AJ. - Do you know AJ has, or you're under the impression that AJ has access to guns because of the comments that she made? - Yeah. - Do you know if Devin has access to guns? - AJ gave her a gun once. - Okay. - According to Rosa, the person responsible for Jason's murder could be a man known as AJ, Devon's new boyfriend. Rosa claims AJ's name had been used to threaten Jason numerous times before, and the situation becomes even more unsettling when she reveals that AJ allegedly had direct access to weapons, raising the possibility that he may work in law enforcement. And although this is the first time detectives hear his name, Rosa's statement immediately makes AJ someone they need to look into. However, there's one problem. All they have is a nickname, and with so little information to go on, figuring out his real identity proved to be extremely difficult. So with this in mind, investigators know their new priority is speaking to Devin, but they have to proceed with caution. If Devin is involved in Jason's murder, or knows about it, she could simply refuse to speak with law enforcement. And even if she has nothing to do with it, the ongoing legal battle over her son could still make her hesitant to cooperate. So investigators come up with a plan to make sure she has no choice but to come to them herself. Four hours after Jason's murder, an officer arrives at the Montessori daycare where Jason and Devin's son is staying. The detective's plan is simple, yet genius. They plan to retrieve the child and bring him to the police department. Then, when Devin later looks for him, she would have no choice but to come to the station to pick him up, giving investigators the opportunity to question her about what had happened. However, as the officer gets to work, Devin suddenly calls the daycare, asking about her son. If she realizes police are already there, she could show up within minutes and complicate the investigation. So the officer needs to find a way to keep everything, looking completely normal, and avoid tipping her off to what detectives are planning. - All right. - I have two and I can-- - Hurry up, make a decision. We gotta answer the phone. - Do it, do it. - Just answer the phone, ask her questions. We're not here. She can come pick up the kid. - Gateway Montessori School, this is Wren. Can I help you? - Speaker. - No, he, Jason has not picked up the kid yet. - Okay, okay, well, I don't know what's happening because people keep calling me and telling me that something has happened to Jason. And if he hasn't, that makes me wonder if something did actually happen. So I don't know if I'm gonna be able to get there. - See, I'm gonna need to stand by. - I'm in school or college right now. So I wasn't supposed to have him stay with Jason. So, see you. - So if Jason ends up showing up in the next 30 minutes, do you let me know? Because I need to try to get ahold of him too. I don't know what's happening. - Sure, I absolutely will. Yep. - Okay, thank you. - Sure. - Okay, bye. - Bye. - Okay, thank you, good job. - And just like that, Devin seems convinced that nothing is wrong. Investigators have not only completed the first step of their plan to bring Devin in for questioning, but they've also bought themselves something just as important. Time. And that matters because they still have no concrete evidence that could confirm or rule out Devin or AJ's involvement in the murder. If they're going to question either of them, investigators need something solid they can confront them with. Luckily, it won't take long for them to find exactly that. As investigators carefully review the available CCTV footage from the neighborhood, they stumble upon something interesting. They uncover a real-life story. They encounter a recording from just 30 minutes before Jason was killed that could finally help confirm their suspicions. But to make sense of what they're seeing, investigators need to hear Devin's version of events and compare it against the footage. And thanks to the plan they had already set in motion, they may not have to wait long to get that opportunity. Because with her son now at the police department, Devin is about to come looking for answers. - Hi, I was transferred to you. I was told that I needed to talk to you. I needed to speak with you. I've been getting a lot of calls saying that there may have been an accident with my son's father. - I have no idea what it is, if it's a random event or, but yeah, I'd like to talk to you about this. - Can you, can you tell me what's happening? Because everybody just keeps saying there's an accident and my son is supposed to be with him right now. And he is five years old. - He's here, he's fine. Rosa came to pick him up because of what's going on. - Okay, so I don't, I don't understand why nobody called me. I am his mother and nobody called me. - Yeah, we were trying to find your contact information. Well, let's figure out what's going on. - Yeah, I would love to, but what is happening? Where is my son's father? - Well, that's what we need to talk about and talk about this in depth. Are you able to come down to the police department? And in the meantime, we'll find out who was out on scene. - Oh, I mean, you have my son, right? - Yes. - Okay. - And my son, yes, of course I'm coming down there. I am in Fort Collins, so I am, I am a little, a little bit away. take me a little bit of time to get there. Where do I need to come? So far, the detective's strategy appears to be working exactly as planned. Devin is so focused on the fact that police have taken her son to the station instead of releasing him to her that she seems to overlook the possibility that this may have been exactly what investigators wanted. But getting Devin through the doors of the police department is only the first challenge because detectives are about to discover that getting her to actually cooperate will be far more complicated. For now, though, they've done everything they can. All that's left is to wait for one of their suspects to come to them. Hi. Hi. Are you Devin? Yes. Hi, Devin. I'm Detective Jones. Hi. Thank you for coming down. Where is he? I'm not sure where he is exactly, but we're going to come this way and we'll see if we can. You get free nights every night all year long, plus a 25% bonus toward your daytime use all summer. It's a first of its kind plan created for how Texans actually use energy. TXU Energy. Energy for everyone. Everything. Rep number 10004. Okay. Somebody needs to tell me where he is. Okay. And we'll find that out right away. Just as detectives planned, Devin walks straight into the station. Still focused on getting her son back, she has no idea what investigators uncovered in the surveillance footage just hours earlier. And now, with Devin finally in front of them, detectives have their first real chance to hear her version of events. Comparatively, they're at against the evidence they've already uncovered and figure out what role, if any, she played in Jason's murder. I need him, I need him to be here now. I saw my father's car outside and I'm not really sure why he's here. Your father's car? Yeah. Who's your dad? Um, his name is Raul. Raul? Yeah. Okay. Is he not allowed to see your kiddo? He's a registered offender, so he better not be around my kid. Okay. I'm not sure who's where, but he's safe right now. Who is he with? He's going to be around my kid. Okay. Who is he with? He's going to be with an officer right now, so. Okay, because the previous officer that I spoke to on the phone said that he was with my sister, and she doesn't have custody of him either, because she's not his guardian. Okay. I don't, well, I don't know why he wasn't here when I got here, but he needs, I need my son. He is five years old. And I don't think any of you have told him anything that's happened. I don't even know what's happened. Thank you. Yep. No problem. I don't really care. I just, I want my son. Where is my son? I'll tell you everything. Go back there. Let's see. You're Devin? Yes. Am I pronouncing it right? Yes. I'm going to tell you some bad news. Ex-husband? I just called my son's dad. His son's dead. We were never married, but. He died today. What? How? What happened? Someone shot him in the face. In the face? Where? On his postal route. He was working today? He doesn't. Yep. He was working, and someone came up and shot him. As Detective Desmond begins the interview, he immediately shifts the conversation away from Devin's son and towards Jason's murder. Part of the reason is simple. Before revealing anything they uncovered, he first wants to see how Devin reacts to learning Jason is dead. And her response is unusual. Rather than showing an immediate emotional reaction, Devin lets out a long sigh before answering, a response that immediately stands out. But whatever investigators make of that reaction, they already have something far more concrete. Because Desmond is about to confront Devin with the CCTV evidence that pulled her directly into investigators' radar. Let's go back a little bit so I can see who you are and see whether or not I can release a child to you. Does anyone have it out for you? What do you refer to him as? Do you just refer to him as? I just literally say my son's father or Jason. Jason. Does it surprise you that someone would go up and shoot him? Yes, it surprises me a lot. I don't know. I didn't know, you know, I don't, I don't know anybody that would want to hurt him. We have a lot of people in this case and we've heard the case quite a bit. I don't pretend to know everything that happened, but there are some things that are really kind of concerning me. We saw your car in the area of the crime scene. You said you're at work today, but your scanner goes off before the homicide and it turns back on well after the homicide and they tracked you. They tracked your scanner that you use at work to your boyfriend's house, AJ. So that's really kind of concerning. And we caught the shooting on one of the Nest doorbell cameras from across the street. So I'm really kind of concerned. I know that you got served just the other day with the child custody order and you're a little upset about that. You told AJ, you told Devin in the past that AJ knows where you live and that he'll shoot you if he needs to. I've told who? Jason heard that from you and then Jason told Rose that. And Rose told us that and you said that. That I said that? I've never said that. So why is your car in the crime scene area? Why are you in that area in your car and why are you turning off your scanner? I didn't turn off my scanner. No, you did. No, I didn't. The bus inspectors are here. Turn off my scanner. You didn't go with the scanner. The scanner's at your boyfriend's house or somewhere in that area in front of it or in a bush somewhere. It's stationary for like three hours or more and it should be mobile because you're working, but it's at your boyfriend's house and why is your car in the crime scene area? I don't know why it would be on camera that my car was down there, but if I don't scan packages, then obviously I'm not doing that, but I did stop and right, I did stop at his house for my lunch break, sort of. Denim, I think you're a good person, but something's not right here. I think the gig is out. There's something weird going on here. Everything is pointed to you being involved in this shooting. People don't go around just shooting postal people. Because I think there's a lot more than you're telling us. The video of the shooter looks kind of like you. It's from a distance, but it looks like your height. And your build. It doesn't look like AJ's height and build. It doesn't look like Castaneda's height and build. It looks like your build with a black hoodie. With Detective Desmond piling this many suspicions onto Devon, most suspects would eventually break. But Devon has been listening closely, analyzing every detail Desmond gives her. And while the detective believes he's closing in, she's already spotted a weakness in his own theory and is about to use his own words against him. I read on the way here about what happened and they said that a man shot him. That's what we originally thought, yeah. Now we're thinking it could be you. We think it could be maybe your boyfriend. Thanks? Thank you? That's not the right answer. What am I supposed to say? We're trying to get all this evidence together. We're trying to put the pieces together. And I don't think you're being truthful with me. I'm trying to figure out if you did this or if someone else did this. And my bet is you have someone else involved in this, maybe a friend. That's someone who knows this guy. And you know him very well. And you know the people who know him very well. I don't know the people that know him. You know AJ, you know Castaneda. They don't know him. Your car was there. Okay? Your car was there. So tell me someone borrowed your car. I don't. I was at work on my route, which is not close to the post, not super close to the post office. Why is your car in Long Beach? I don't know. I am on my route, working. But it sounds like-- You understand why that's so concerning to me. Yes, I do understand that. So did someone borrow your car or help me out here? I don't know. But I--it seems like with all of these things that you're going to be doing that I need to have a lawyer ask for a lawyer. With Devon invoking her right to a lawyer, Detective Desmond is forced to back off. And that creates a serious problem. Desmond has already revealed most of the evidence investigators have against Devon. But he never got her full account of where she was or what she was doing around the time Jason was killed. That account could become incredibly important. Because every detail Devon gives investigators can later be compared against the surveillance footage, scanner data, and phone records they're still collecting. So police change their approach. They bring in the U.S. Postal Inspector who's already assisting with the case to speak with Devon. Giving investigators another opportunity to get her version of events. If they can't get Devon talking now, detectives may lose the case. their best chance to get a fixed version of events they can later compare against the evidence. Kind of done talking with the detective, but I wouldn't mind talking to you as an inspector to find out what's going on and what happened today. So tell me about your day. So you started scanning packages, you started your route, and then what happened? My guy, AJ, he lives on that route. Usually I'm there around noon, so I think I was a little bit ahead of schedule. So I was able to. Stop, and I was happy that I would be able to take a little bit more time to take a lunch and spend some time with him. What did you guys do just at lunch? No, we just ate and talked and worked good. Okay. What happened after that? We argued for a while, and then he got angry and left, and I stayed in my truck, and I just. I was very upset. TXU Energy. So, I was crying, and I was in my truck, and waited for a while until I was able to calm down. When he left, where did he go? I don't know. Okay. Fortunately for investigators, Devin agrees to talk, but whether that's actually good for the investigation remains to be seen. Because Devin has already heard almost everything detectives have against her, they have to consider the possibility that she could shape her up. They have to consider her account around what she already knows. Even so, investigators have developed enough evidence to seize Devin's clothing for gunshot residue testing, confiscate her phone and black Nissan, and ultimately arrest her on suspicion of involvement in Jason's murder. But the investigation is still far from over. Devin has repeatedly pointed detectives towards her new boyfriend, AJ, claiming she was at his house shortly before the murder, and that after the two argued, AJ angrily drove away. And thanks to this interview, investigators finally learn who AJ really is: Andrew "James" Ritchie. He's 34 years old and lives roughly 30 miles away from where Jason was killed. When detectives look him up, one detail immediately makes Rosa's earlier statements far more significant: AJ works as a federal correctional officer. Later that night, investigators head to AJ's home to interview him. And although they don't know it yet, AJ is eventually going to help them uncover not only who shot Jason, but a much larger murder plot in which Jason may have only been the first target. How are you? Good. Are you AJ? Yeah. AJ, my name's Inspector Chris Lucas. I'm a federal agent. We just want to talk to you a little bit about a lady by the name of Devin. Okay. Shriner. Okay. Do you know her? Yeah. How do you know her? She's a friend. She's a friend? Yeah. She definitely made it pretty clear that she liked me more than I liked her. Okay. And I'm married, so we still talk. Okay. We talked today. I have a pretty good idea what this is about. When did you talk to her? Apparently when she was driving to the police station. But she didn't stop by and talk to you or. We talked briefly today. It wasn't a good conversation. I told her that I wasn't happy. I didn't want her here. Okay. So she was here or that was on the phone? She was here. She was here. What time was she here? Um, 11 something to probably about 12:15. You know, the timeline's important to us. Right. So she was here around 11 and she stayed till 12:15? Yeah. Could it have been later than that? Because I ended up leaving. We were, well, I was mad. She was almost in tears because I told her I don't want her on my family. I don't want to do this. Sure. I don't want anything to do with her. So around, go ahead. I'm sorry. So she was upset. And so I left and went to Hooters and ate with some friends. Okay. And I don't, she went back completely well. When you left. And I got there probably, it was probably about 12:30. At Hooters? Yeah. AJ seems to back Devin up. He confirms that she came to his house in her postal truck, claims they argued, and that he left around 12:15 to meet friends at Hooters while Devin stayed behind upset. But there's already a problem. Just minutes earlier, AJ had claimed he hadn't seen Devin. And by giving detectives such a specific timeline, AJ has now handed them something they can test against the phone records, GPS data, and surveillance footage. Six days later, detectives arrive at AJ's workplace. In that time, they've tracked his phone, compared his story against Devin's, and reconstructed his movements on the morning of the murder. And now they know his account is filled with evidence. More importantly, investigators have uncovered evidence suggesting Jason may not have been the only intended victim that day. And when AJ sits down for a second interview, detectives are finally ready to show him exactly how much of his story they've already disproven. So, first off, I know that we're at your place of work, so I imagine that they called you down here, so you probably don't exactly feel like you have a choice in being in this room right now since your bosses are all outside the door. So first off, I know that we're at your place of work, so I imagine that they called you down here, so you probably don't exactly feel like you have a choice in being in this room right now since your bosses are all outside the door. Correct. So before we talk, before I ask you any questions, I want you to go and have a seat. We'll go through this first part. Let me ask you this, do you have any weapons on you, any knives, nothing like that? Okay. You've already indicated that you don't want to talk to us about a couple of things here. All right, so I'm going to show you a few things and see if you want to talk about it all, okay? Okay. Do you have any idea what that picture is right there? Looks like GPS. So those are phone signals coming from your phone down in the Longmont area in the same neighborhood as the shooting with location. TXU Energy. Rep number 10004. Information for the mailman who was shot that morning. All right. So we know that you were in Longmont that morning. And I'm not asking. It's not because of you. I'm just asking that to further verify whether or not you had any idea where Devin was at that time. You've already told me that you weren't with Devin at 12.15 like you had previously told us. All right? So the reason I'm showing you this is because we can show that you weren't with Devin. And you can't obviously verify where she was. Right. What else did you want to show me? You got nothing to say about this? Two days before this happened. Can you explain that? You're a smart guy. I think you know where we're going with this. So if you want to give us answers, now's the time to give them to us. The picture AJ is looking at is one of the strongest pieces of evidence detectives have uncovered in the case so far. It was sent from Devin to AJ just a few days before the murder, showing her in the exact same clothes Jason's killer was later recorded wearing. At this point, detectives have little doubt that Devin was the one who killed Jason. But there's still one equally important question to answer. Was Devin acting alone, or was AJ her accomplice? And as AJ begins explaining what happened, detectives are about to learn that Jason's murder was only one part of something far more disturbing. You only get a couple opportunities to give us explanations for what's going on. We're trying to find the truth. So her and I were talking in the morning when I dropped her off at my house, and I didn't necessarily think too much of it. After she had gotten to work, or on her way to work, she had called me and told me that she had decided that that was what she thought needed to happen. And she had told me that she had thought about doing this before. Actually, three days prior to that, she told me that she was going to do this, and I talked her out of it. So explain this picture to me. Explain this picture right here in the middle. What's the conversation around that? So that was the three days prior when she told me that she was going to go over there in the middle of the night. And I told her I told her not to. Originally, her plan was she was going to take out Jason, Rosa and herself. And I begged her not to. She has talked about his route because she knows the Longmont routes. So I went out there. I knew his route number. I found him and I continue to stay on the phone with her to try to tell her to try to talk her out of it. But at that point in time, I stopped over at his truck and I told him that he should watch out for her because I think she's planning on doing something. He just looked at me and goes, what? And I was like, Devin, I said, she's unstable right now and I think that she's done something stupid. And he said, I'm not scared of that. And I said, OK. And I left. AJ claims he was only trying to stop Devin from hurting Rosa or Jason. Even going as far as hiding Jason's truck and warning him himself. But what AJ doesn't realize is that detectives aren't buying his story. And they already believe his connection to Jason's murder runs far deeper than he's willing to admit. I'm just trying to find stuff that's going to help you at this point, because you understand you're telling me that, but I don't have evidence of that. Does that make sense? Right. Why don't you know, we have your phone, got your phone records. We have her phone records. Why? If this has happened multiple times where she said that she's going to do this or she needs to do this. Why don't we see any texts of you telling her not to do this? If you've begged and pleaded for her not to so many times, there's no documentation of you actually trying to calm her down from going to kill him. Even though this has happened multiple times. She never told me a text that she was going to do it. You didn't tell anyone. You did think she was going to do it. You went down there to warn him. Right. You went down there, not just to warn him. You went down there and you waited. If what you're telling me is true, if I'm supposed to believe what you're telling me is true, you're saying that you went all the way. You believed it so much to the extent that you went all the way down to Longmont after you had spent the night with her to go down there and sit and follow a mail truck around for two or three hours. That's how much you believed it. And you didn't tell anyone else. That's what I'm supposed to believe. Where did the gun come from? I have no idea. I assume it happened inside. I don't know. So what have I told you? There are people that said that even though you and Jason didn't have a lot of contact together, they from their understanding, there's tension between you and Jason. Specifically because of the situation with Devin. We said that they feel very personally that you specifically had it out for Jason. How? And why? What's the motive there? What do I stand to benefit from that? He was with the girl that you're apparently with. It's not with me. They have a kid together. They spent time together. They don't spend time together, but I could care less. Were you scouting out that area for her to come down? She already knew his route. Hmm? She was at his case. That wasn't my question. I'm tired of that. No, it was not. What I thought. Why did you go down there to follow him around if you didn't think that's what she was going to do? I wanted to stop her if she came out there. So you did think she was on her way to go down there to kill him? But I didn't discuss with her about going and killing somebody. I'm trying to talk to her. But you said she talked about that before. You said that you had had to talk her down from that on more than one occasion. That was the first thing you told me. All right, you're under arrest. Go ahead and stand up. Place your hands behind your back. Is it possible to do that out in the parking lot? No. No, stand up for me. As the interrogation wraps up, AJ refuses to reveal anything more about Jason. He says more about his involvement, insisting that he had only followed Jason in an attempt to prevent the shooting. But detectives know that tracking Jason's postal route for nearly three hours while remaining in constant contact with Devin had to mean far more than that. So AJ is placed under arrest for his role in the murder of Jason Schaefer. And as investigators continue examining the pair's phones, the case against him becomes even more disturbing. Hidden among their messages. are conversations dating back months before the shooting, in which AJ encourages Devin's violent thoughts towards Jason and Rosa. In one message, he tells her she could simply kill them both, and even suggests making it appear as though they had killed each other. Combined with their nearly three-hour call on the morning of the murder, AJ's movements along Jason's route, and the false alibi they had attempted to create, detectives now have enough to show that. AJ was not trying to stop the attack. He had helped Devin locate Jason, and prepare for it. Both AJ and Devin would ultimately be charged with first-degree murder after deliberation. AJ was prosecuted under Colorado's complicity law, meaning he faced the same murder charge as Devin, despite never firing the gun himself. In March 2023, Devin was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison without parole. Six months later, AJ was convicted of the same crime. He was convicted of the same charge and received the same sentence, ensuring that neither of them would ever be released.