WOKE IS BACK, Target Bans Costume For Offending Black People w/ Naomi Epps

So Target pulled a costume of a clown on Halloween, a four Halloween. It's a clown that they say looks like a black face because it looks like the kid's dressed like, you know, a minstrel show character or something like this. Personally, I think it's silly and I think, they're trying to, it's like it's eight years ago all over again. And so I say, cancel culture is coming back, Target now bending to the whims of the, you know, the BLM activism type complaints over what is a clown costume because the kid modeling the clown costume happened to have been black. And they're trying to pull old pictures to make it seem justified, whatever. Well, we also had this golf company. They had to get rid of their commercial, they delete their commercial because it was weird. He just, the co-founder, I guess, just shoves a woman of the ground and then grouse that around to touch his clubs. I don't know what the point of that commercial was, but it was kind of funny. So that's, we'll talk about that. We do have a bunch of news in politics. We had the head of the CIA flew over to Russia to move Vladimir Putin, everyone's wondering about it. I'd lead with that normally. It's big news, but we just don't know anything about it. We could certainly speculate that it is big, but, you know, we'll have fun talking about some of the cultural stuff today. So we got that and then news. Once again, in the midterm, we'll be talking about what's going on at the latest polling. And look, they're coming after Hassan Piker like crazy now. Everybody's got to announce them. More and more Democrats are coming out saying they'd announce them and he's got some quotes that I'm not going to say at the top of the show that kind of kind of sound a little, I don't know, genocide, he, you know, he's talking about, yeah, we'll wait a little bit. I don't want to get too much into it. So we'll talk about all that. Before we get started, my friends got a great sponsor for you in his tax network, USA. 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Um, so I took a break, had a baby, but I'm doing writing and culture and psychology now. We're right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. Let's get the voice. Hi. Good to be here. It's up, man. It's up Carter. What's up, everyone? Also pumped to be here. Let's talk about the news. Here's the story from AP News. Target faces renewed backlash after stocking Halloween costume with minstrel show features. Notice they had to refer to it as minstrel show features because it's just, it's not, uh, let's pull up this one first. Here's the costume. These glow kids glows under black light circus clown Halloween costume bodysuit hide and eat boutique L. First of all, Target didn't make this product. Some company did. And there's only one real issue with it and you get that issue is the hat. Nope. The race of the child. If that was a white kid doing that, nobody would have said anything, right, nothing because it's literally just a clown costume. It is literally the checkered pants, the zigzag Halloween features with a small clown hat, but it's orange and black because it's Halloween, but because a black kid's doing it, it's racist now. Yeah. They clown them up like that. Them teeth though. Like that. Come on. Look at that big ass. That ain't no clown. Clowns can't smile Ian. Clowns get red. No, no, Ian's right. Black people aren't allowed to be clowns. It's racist. They can't smile. I'm going to show you another offensive thing here. Okay. What about the pose though? Like, maybe the costume itself wasn't. What about the pose is racist because someone found an old cartoon of the guy. The guy on the left, the black guy is not even a clown. It's literally just an old, tiny drawing of a black guy. And people are offended by it because of the history of racism. Look, the guy with the hat right here, that's a minstrel like caricature, right? Yeah. Like a bellhop. I don't know what it is. Here's the other problem. That's a bellhop hat. White people wore bellhop hats too. This is insane. It's like, have you guys seen the Dave Chappelle sketch? It's super funny where he gets offered the flight attendant ask him if he wants the fish or the chicken. Yes, you have. And then he's all very calm and he's like, how was the, he's like, I'll have the fish. And she's like, I'm sorry, we're out. And then there's the black minstrel character wearing the bellhop costume with the cane going, he's like, get the chicken. You want the chicken? No, you want it. And then he's like, how is the chicken prepared? It's fried. And then he's like, the point is, those characters are just dressed like bell hops. Not like dressing like a bellhop does not make you racist and does not make it a minstrel show. The problem is now because blackface used bellhop costumes, any circumstance in which a black person is dressed like a bellhop, they're going to call it racist. That's the same reason I don't draw swastikas on my face. Like, it was over. Really? By the Nazis? Please unpack that. What? The bellhop, look, for the black people. Like the, oh, he's crazy. Well, he's got a bellhop hat on the child. I'm loving this one. No, but it's at the same angle and it's at the same size right now. If anything, the photographer and whoever posed the child with a little stuff. That's why I was thinking that the photographer might have known what he was doing. But everyone else, I don't know. Look, the costume in and of itself is definitely not racist. You put a white kid in there, nobody would have thought anything of it at all. It's just because there's a black kid in there. I would love to know how many people actually complained. Like is this something that was, it was actually a lot of people or was it just enough for target to notice and be like, we don't want this heat. Because to be fair, target doesn't lose anything for taking this out of their, out of their inventory or taking it off the website and saying, we're not selling this thing, right? There's zero downside for that. I'm going to, I'm going to show you guys an image of a black man being a clown and you're going to agree it's racist and should never be allowed. Okay? You ready? Here you go. Hey. Different clowns. That's homey, the clown. Straight away. I got a question. It's honest question. Is homey, the clown racist? I don't mean is like actual homey, like the character. Was he racist to people? I'm saying, is it racist that they made a homey, the clown? No. Why not? Because Damon Wands did it of his own volition. A kid did it of his own, his family was like, oh, great, he's going to model a costume and they're like, that's racist. If he was-- I was like, I was big break, too. We're guy. Damon or the kid? No, the child. No. He's going to have to get more from this. Look at that. He's telling his friends. You can tell by his eyes. He's actually not smiling. I'm not kidding. He's not. He's not. Yeah. Like, you can tell people are smiling because people actually smile with their eyes, not with their mouth. Yeah. It's actually very disturbing when you see someone smiling with sad eyes, like, it's in politics. It's not on-- Smiling with sad eyes. Yeah. I'd rather just not smile. I used to catch myself doing it. I'm glad I make videos because I saw it and I'm like, I got to just let my face be miserable. So like, here's the point I'm making. Homey smacked kids around. I believe it. Did he ever have a gun? Yeah. I'm sure that he did. So when a black man is a clown, he smacks kids as intolerable, offensive. That was the joke. I'm not kidding. Homey don't play that. The reason why this show was funny to people was that homey the clown was atypical and acted like a gang banger. Yeah. He wanted money from the kids for drugs. If they made-- And here's the best part. If a white guy played homey the clown. That's definitely racist. Oh, no, you can't do that. Why can't I be homey? Depends on the white guy. Which I thought homey was hilarious. I thought homey was hilarious. Robert Downey Jr. did it. He might have pulled it off. Like, tropic thunder. That was great. And they were like-- Yeah, but the joke was blackface. That's the point. Right. He was making fun of people that did blackface. Well, I'm sad that Target actually capitulated because I feel like it's just the revival of everything that we saw with cancel culture. Yeah. But, you know, you can't give into bullies, and it seems like we're on the verge of another era of doing that. It's-- Oh, dude. It's interesting forever. As soon as Democrats get back into positions of authority and they're capable of doing it, they will do it. do it again. It does not go away. That is something the left is chomping at the bit to do. This show is so good. You know what's going to take five clowns to do this. Yeah, where's that replacement clown you were supposed to find? Very rich. Hey, you're like, you're like, you're like, what's the name of this homie to clown? This parole officer will be filling in here as part of the work release program. Do there's no way they would allow this right now. A black clown who just got a prison on parole. Not at all. And they were like, why are you making the black man a guy who was in prison? What do you do? Like, I just jumped at the park. It's the guy. Let's just they would never allow this today. This is like substantially worse than what that kid is doing. Yeah, the only reason that I think that I might push back on that is it is a black guy that created it. So it might be okay because like, look, no one can say the N word except for black people. So it has the past. Yeah, it might be where they would get away with it because he's a black guy. But I mean, obviously if there was a white writer in the room, you're doomed. You know, you're the white guys aren't allowed to write any jokes for this particular skit has to be only black guys. It's just it's that just goes to, you know, goes to point out how or to shed a light on how silly the whole thing is. You know, you're not allowed to engage in this comedy. You're not allowed to say this word. You're not allowed to have this thing that brings to mind something to somewhat from someone else. The people that target, they had no, I would be willing to bet that none of them ever thought. Oh, that looks like a menstrual is might be perceived as racist. I'd be willing to bet anything they didn't. Well, one thing's for certain is that black children cannot be clowns clearly. I mean, I'm laughing right now. Well, the other thing too was they can't be monkeys either. That's too bad. Remember that my buddy is a monkey. No, no, no, no, no, something happened with the school where the teacher was like, there are a bunch of little monkeys and then there was like a black kid in the class. And they're like, whoa, whoa, she was like, look, there's just little kids running around going, like, I'm just going to joke and like, not if there's a black kid there, you can't say that. No monkeys jumping off the bed. Once we normalize calling black people monkeys. And I mean, that is, I call white people monkeys. I call my Asian friends monkeys. You're a monkey to me, monkey-ish. Then we'll know the right monkey. That's that. This is hilarious. It's how you defeat woke is if you can chill. No, it's not. And like, just chill with each other. Like, okay, you can refer to each other's monkeys. That we have natural ancestors together. All of us do. The thing is you, you don't get those people to chill because that's where they get their power from is the outrage. If they can actually convince other people that what they say, they truly believe and that it's actually offensive, that empowers them to attack people. And that's the whole game. Well, they want you in a position of fear. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's all about that. Do you guys ever see clerks? Was it clerks? Oh, yeah. I read. Taken it back. Was it two or three? Which is that he's taking a clerks to take? He's taking it back. He's like, he calls the kid a little porch monkey. And then what's the other guy's name? No, it was. I forgot his name. Dante. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, you can't say that. It's like, what? My grades say to me all the time. That's funny. No, it's racist. No, it's not. She also really calls the kid at that. And then he's like, yeah, you know, it makes me think she did always refer to a broken bottle as a. Yeah. I'm not going to say that because that's a no no word. This is my question because if you say woke is coming back. So if you can convince the masses that just a chill, not the people that are intentionally trying to freak people out, but the masses, they'll be all right, all right. I'm done with it. I've had it. I've seen it. How many years have to go by until you need to do that again, but again, constantly have to remember finding people to chill the equation for target was we lose nothing by taking this off the shelf. And we risk bad press by leaving it on the there is they have there is zero downside to them taking it off us talking about it on the show here. That's not going to come up with a boycott. That's not going to get activists to blah, blah, blah, but activists will go ahead and say, oh, this is racist targets racist and they'll make a bunch of noise. And you don't need a million people to be upset. You need a few thousand, maybe even of just a few hundred to get on to targets X page or their Facebook page and accuse them of racism. And that's it. You don't need a lot of people to do this again. So there's no downside to taking it down, but there's all there's no there's no winning by leaving it up. Do you think this was a false flag by like some racist creator designer? They're like, oh, we're going to get the racist woke people to complain about it. And so they wanted it to happen, even though they were the racist ones that wanted the complaints. I think you're reading a whole lot into it. You're like looking for like some kind of conspiracy that isn't there. Like I said, there is zero downside to taking it down. Well, I'm sure that there's activists in target to who maybe we're pushing this. I mean, target was the company who was selling binding garments and tucking garments. And what was that 2020? Yeah, it was 2021 or 23. Either way, doesn't matter. Same around the same time. So it doesn't matter to splitting hairs trying to happen. I think, you know, more and more, I'm not entirely sure who wins the midterms. I think Republicans have a great opportunity because of the procedural victories. We've got big news. We'll get into and that is Supreme Court saying Trump's executive order on the post office stuff. He's gonna let some of it fly. However, you know, the economy is not good. And it was funny with this Canadian trade war stuff where I'm sorry, I'm not communicating the Iranian stuff. Besson was like, with the strength of the Trump economy, we're going to withstand this and blah, blah, blah. I'm like the strength, bro, I don't know what you're talking about, but people are not having a good time right now. It's not like the worst economy the country's ever had, but it's generally down. And I've been like 75% or something like that. It's growth is like 1.5%. It's, it's slow. I don't even believe it. I believe inflation is higher than growth. So we're not even growing, right? And so, well, I guess technically they try to argue the inflation means growth. It doesn't. So one way you can try, we track is, I always talk about ads. The way Ad revenue works for YouTube is that it's a bunch, it's a little bit of money from a lot of people. So most of the ads on Google are going to be like a diner in a small like third, like Winchester Virginia. For example, there's a, there's a burger shop. They'll buy $500 and ads for the month. And have that run for everybody who lives in and around Winchester, which is going to be a couple hundred thousand people. We're going to see maybe three or four cents from that, you know, on this show because there's people all over the, well, there's not that many people in Winchester. There's a lot of content people watch. And that means if Mr. Beast video plays, he's going to make, you know, 53 cents off of that 500. So when the ad rates are going down, which you're really seeing is that small businesses are struggling. They're not buying ads from what they're business because they do not have discretionary funds. Everything's getting tighter and tighter and we can see this in the back end for ad rates. They've been improving a little bit. But since the start of the war, it's been getting bad. This means, you know, people are not happy with the state of things. And so when that happens, they say maybe the other guy will do better. They don't care about woke. They don't care about Trump or borders. A lot of people do, but those are not lowest common denominator issues. So if you can animate 27% of the population in immigration, you're going to get a big boost. But the Democrats are going to go for the other 73. That's a bigger boost. The lowest common denominator issue is always going to be the economy with that. I think Democrats might actually win. I think they have a decent probability. It's hard to say because this procedural game of Republicans are playing as nuts. But if they do, woke is back. You do not understand TikTok is already banning people. TikTok has already started reverting back to the way it was before it was bought out. We saw Spencer Pratt calling out the Lindsey Clancy stuff gone. They took it down. Cam Higby took his stuff and hit a fight for it to get it back. Fortunately, he did after some pressure. But look at the Lindsey Clancy stuff where these women are coming out throwing ice in their showers, talking about how they too could murder their children and TikTok is like, let it roll, baby. And then the people like Spencer Pratt who are saying, this is bad for us. He gets banned. It is going back. They are pulling back the power. If they win, here we go. I think Trump, he has doubled down. I don't know if that means he's all in, but I think they got to change their messaging, the administration away from the economy's great to we're going to fix the economy because it's too obvious. Yeah. The economy sucks. I mean, as somebody I'm a business, I was a business owner. I own a skate shop and times are tough. Like, you don't, you don't own a skate shop anymore? No, I don't own a skate shop anymore to him. But is it this sort of subjects? Yeah, it's a sort of subject, but, but it was tough. It was tough when we were doing it. I mean, yeah, we can't spend on advertising. People aren't spending. People don't want to come in and buy a $70 sweatshirt. And I voted for Trump because, well, one, I was scared of the woke stuff with Kamala Harris, but also the gas pump and I want more money in my pockets, obviously, but what? Well, so real quick, the reason I asked about the skateboard thing is we just had our third factory shut down. And so this is a mess for everybody about a skateboard. We have two options for you because we've got a lot of emails and they're like, Hey, man, it's been a month and a half whereas my board, third skateboard factory shut down because skateboarding is dead. And all the jobs have been all sorted China. All the core skate shops, they're going. Oh, they're gone. But it's because the skateboards are being made in China for pennies in the dollar. And so I'm not going to buy Chinese boards. It's not going to happen. I will refund and go out of business before I buy skateboards from China. So we found another factory. And we are so I believe they said that the boards are all being shipped out now. But this I ask because it's relevant to what we're talking about the economy. The one thing that I still want Trump to succeed at is these tariffs. We need trade protectionism. And Trump was talking about renaming Lake Ontario, Lake America. Go for it. I think it's funny. Who cares? Whatever. But you know, there's this idea that other countries have that they're entitled to our manufacturing, our labor. This article talking about it said, you know, Ronald Reagan was a big proponent of free trade. This is what happens. Okay. Reagan's like we got we're going to boost the economy. I mean, it was pretty bad under Carter. We get that. Everything's starting to get better under Reagan. Everyone loves it. So he says free trade. It's easy to open the door. You know, you have a safe neighborhood and you're like, what do we need guns for? The neighborhood's safe. So everyone goes and they throw all their guns away and they, there we go. And then a week later, there's gang bangers everywhere. They're getting shot. There's drug dealing. Like, Oh, what do we do now? Well, you got rid of what made it safe. Yeah. So right now it's happening is all this free trade. It was our manufacturing base, the low skill labor and our culture that helped us have this. It's gone. So I, I say this, I think the war has been so far we have not seen or been explained any positive positives about it. And the economy is only getting worse. The, the Democrats have blocked Trump's efforts at tariffs and his tariffs have been wild. The universal tariffs are just wacky as it is, but I'll take it. So I'm hoping we get some kind of trade protectionism, which is funny because that's a left wing position and not the left is claiming it's a right wing position. But other than that, I tell you this, Democrats are not going to make the economy better. They're going to make it worse. They're going to make it worse intentionally because that way JD Vance loses in 2028 when the Democrats say, Hey, he's the president. You know, Trump's the president. An idea of what the Republican administration could do right now and let me know if you guys think this is a good idea, subsidizing small businesses for marketing. So like a small company could get, you put $100 million of federal funds into it. A small company can get $20,000 a year in free marketing on YouTube. You don't think that the government subsidizing free marketing for now because what that, that will drive the price of the ads up and that means the private sector will be impossible to run ads. Yep. Anytime you, what if anytime the government dumps money into things, it offsets the market. But this is the easiest to explain because YouTube ads are done on what, what's called a bid process. So that means right now, if there's a hundred million dollars in the private market that's going into Google, everybody says, I'm willing to pay X amount of cents per conversion. A conversion is going to cost you between like 30 and 50 cents. A view can cost you a penny. But if you want to get, if you said, I want my ad to run on 8 p.m. live big show, well, guess what? Everyone wants that slot. So it's going to cost you 10 cents per view, it's going to cost you a dollar per conversion and the only one who could afford that is going to be like Coca-Cola or Pepsi. So let's say at the lowest level, midnight ads, just general ads across YouTube, they do run and they cost about three cents. And that's because advertisers say, I'll bid two cents, I'll bid three cents. Three cents wins. Now what happens when the government dumps an extra, it went doubles the monetary spend a hundred million dollars. Now you've got way more money in the system. Now here's what happens if you can't make the bid. If I put 20 grand on YouTube and said, I want to run an ad, but I don't want to spend more than three cents, you know, happens zero views. Because Coke and Pepsi will run it at five cents. If every single person says we don't want to spend more than this, they don't run it all. So what do they do? They increase their willingness to spend to try and turn on the spigot. They'll say, look, if three cents doesn't, it doesn't sell and we can't get ads, let's go to five cents. But now everybody's got money. So then the other guy who normally doesn't have money goes, hey, six cents is better than zero views. Let's go six cents. And then also everyone's spending a dollar per view and they get 20,000 views. And then the market is just burned out. Small businesses, not subsidized, can't do it. Big corporations pull out the economy breaks, breaks down. I think what we need to do for small businesses is tax breaks because the cost of running a brick and mortar is insane. I mean, what I'm paying, even just sales tax, I mean, that's 10% of everything that comes in. And there's self-employment tax. If we got a break from that, it would be huge. But the point of taxes, when you're just making ends meet though, that's, I mean, that's make or break. But the point of taxes is to control for inflation because the government spends money that they don't have. Basically, people, they have it backwards. They're like, my tax dollars are funding this war. Maybe that's true. What's really happening is the government just creates debt where they basically say to these weapons manufacturers, send us a bill, make it, send us a bill. And then they do, and that company spends down through their investments or personal coffers. Then go to the government and say, we want our money. So the government's just like, okay, they just manufacture, click the button's account. Then they go, now we got inflation. So they take the money from the business and effectively burn it. Not literally, but they're pulling money from you to control the speed of inflation. They're not taking your money and then spending it. They're spending money. They don't have they manifest and then taking from you so that the market doesn't go crazy. And also, tax relief would mean if they let the market go crazy. And also as soon as you start doing things like cutting taxes, the whole of the left freaks out because people at own businesses, they own property and the left is already apoplectic about people own property. You would be called, they would look at your total net worth for your business. Oh, you're a millionaire, you're cutting taxes for the millionaires again. That's what the government always does. They're their friends, they're, you're rich elites, they're, they're cutting taxes. It would be a nightmare for politically because because they, they don't, they don't understand how businesses work or how money works. They don't understand anything except that person has a lot of money and they're getting another tax break. And I can't make ends meet, I can't pay the bills, I can't get up and get to work on time or whatever their effing problem is. But well, it's just, it's just a fundamental misunderstanding of how small business runs because even if you look at how much money we're bringing in a year and you think, wow, that's a lot of money. I don't know any small business owner in my town that thinks things are going really great right now. They don't. Everybody is freaking out. They don't care. And the, at least the point that I'm making, they don't care who doesn't. The people on the left that are like, oh, you know, the billion, millionaires and billionaires are, are always getting tax breaks from the government. Donald Trump's giving tax breaks to his friends. The narrative is what they care about and because they don't feel like they're able to make ends meet or they don't feel like it's a fair system. They don't care that there are people that own businesses that are actually on a shoestring budget that are not taking a lot of money on them. They don't, it doesn't mean a goddamn thing to them. They look at the amount, they look at your net worth or, and I'm not seeing you personally, but they look at a business as net worth, you know, or a person's net worth because of the business they own. Oh, look, you own a building and it means you're probably a millionaire. You got half a million dollars in just the building and then you've got your, your stock, so your net worth as soon as it's over a million dollars, they just lose their mind. I think, but I do want to stress this too for a lot of people. The average millionaire, we brought up on the show before, the average salary of a millionaire in the United States is about $160,000 a year. It is not what people think, so when you look at Loudoun County, which is the wealthiest county, I think in the world, the average salary there, the median, it's like 150, and these people own houses that are like $20, $30 million. Now, those guys probably make a little bit more than that, but people need to understand it's not what they think. Millionaires aren't making a million dollars a year, they would be billionaires if they're making a million dollars. Yeah, you want to specify the difference between megacorporations that are trying to take over the world, left and right can agree, we don't want that. Well, this is what I'm repositioning the argument, because you want small business to thrive. It's just like teach a man to fish, you want the individual to have autonomy, you want small businesses to be the driving force of your economy, so if you can inspire people to protect these smaller companies, while kind of buffering against Coca-Cola, no offense, Coca-Cola, whoever owns Coca-Cola. No offense. Let me pause real quick, Coca-Cola is a wildly unhealthy drink, do not drink it. Well, any megacorp that wants to advertise on a network, if we can somehow invest or buffer the small businesses against that to protect our way of life, I think they don't want to protect our way of life. I have to issue a fundamental difference, if they don't want to protect our way of life, they want to destroy capitalism. I have to issue a correction on that, enjoy Coke sometimes. That's possibly. Yeah, I think I had one Coke in the pack, I had a Coca-Cola, I think like three months ago, and it was the first Coke I've had in probably like seven years. Yeah, about seven years ago I drank a Diet Coke, I had about this much of it, and my digestion was great, and then I had this much more, and I felt it oozing out of my pores. I was like, I'm getting sick. Oh, Diet Coke is dangerous, I'm addicted to Diet Coke. There's something going on there. Yeah. The point that I'm making, it's not that your idea in theory isn't good, it's just that the people that I'm talking about, their people are just narrative driven anyways, and they're not going to care about, oh, we need to make sure that the small businesses are taken care of. The left has moved significantly away from that. left wants to absolutely overturn the entire system that we live under and people that are not quite as far left, they're already bowing to the pressure from the far left. You say the people in the far left want to destroy businesses, not just business. Yes. Yes. In Seattle, in Portland, they intentionally go downtown in Portland and smash the windows of small businesses. That's the point. Bro, during COVID, did they shut down Walmart? No. They shut down the small businesses. Remember the lady in Jersey? We covered the story. There was a woman who had a small resale shop in North Jersey. They forced her to close. So she went on Facebook live and said, "Here are the things that I have in my store. Send me a message if you want to buy them. When the cops found out she was selling products, they came, knocked on the door, and they said, "Mam, you need to close." And she was, "I am closed." And like, "No. You need to stop selling products." And she was like, "What? I'm closed. No one can come here. What are you talking about?" Real purpose was not some kind of pandemic thing. It was to shut down small business. So global corporate governance, obviously, is infecting people's minds through the left mindset of we, the corporate, we, the totality. But the reality is small business is the driving for, I mean, Ben Franklin was a small business man. These guys are like, "So we need to protect it somehow, if we can control the narrative or something." So I agree with you, but the point that I'm making is just the left doesn't. And that's why I'm saying like what she's talking about. The idea of tax breaks for small businesses, that's great. I'm totally, I mean, look, I'm the kind of guy that thinks we should cut taxes a lot. But we already have a progressive tax, we have the most progressive tax system in the world. Regardless of what anyone else says, or what people tell you. I think we should cut taxes, probably significantly, I think it helped me a lot. But the fact of the matter is, the left, when they hear, "Oh, we're going to cut taxes." What they hear is the corporations are getting breaks from the Republicans are from Donald Trump. Again, it's Trump helping his friends. No, we can't have it. It's a big deal. This is a story from 2020 in May. It was a, the woman said, "You guys are picking on me because I'm trying to feed my kids." She was running a Facebook live video to send it to sell some of her products when office are Tyler Demet came to her store at 9 p.m. about an hour in the video. He says on the video, she's in violation of Murphy's order for operating her business past the 8 p.m. curfew, and for her and her employee not wearing a mask. I am totally being picked on right now. You guys are picking on me because I'm trying to feed my kids. My store has been closed. I had a little fresh share. I'm not open. I'm doing a live. I have done this time and time again, and now people are picking on me. No, it's because the point was to shut the businesses down. It wasn't about stopping people from coming in the business because she did not let them in the business. They are commies and wanted to destroy the businesses. I got to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the real reason Blue States did this was climate change. Because remember, the New York Times wrote, "The earth is healing." We were, we refused to shut down in 2020 and were absolutely intimidated by the health department coming in, threatening persistently, and we just said no, we're not going to do it because then we wouldn't be able to pay our rent and feed our children, but that turned out all to just be posturing. Nothing happened. We were not fined. We were not sighted. It was, it was absolute bullying, but we were able to sell some face diapers not required shirts in our shops, so that was fun. Where was your shop? It was so gross. It's a clothing store and a skate shop. Like where was it? Do you know Santa Cruz at all? It's a couple hours south of San Francisco, it's a small beach town. Yeah, it's where NHS is HQ'd, so. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Like the tech capital of the world, Santa. It is. One of them, if not close to it. It's Silicon Valley. Yeah. It's close to it. Yeah, Silicon Valley is real close just over the hill, but yeah, we're one of the skateboarding capitals of the world for sure. Santa Cruz skateboards. But yeah, look, I mean, it's not that any of the ideas here floated are bad because they actually would work and produce positive results, but you're dealing with a group of people that don't want positive results because positive results lowers the number or makes there fewer people that are actually upset, and the left needs people to be agitated. They need people that are angry because angry people will go ahead and say, well, I don't have anything to lose. I'll throw a brick through this window. Happy people don't revolt. That's just the way that it is. If you have a society that's mostly, or it's, you know, actually, I'm mostly very satisfied with their lives and feel good about their future, why is there need for a revolution? We have to have at least 30% of the people that are pretty unhappy with their lives and pretty unhappy about their future to get enough people to make a critical mass of people that will be active because even if you have like 33% of the people that are unhappy with their lives, you know, it's like the actual people that will take action based on that is even smaller. So, but it doesn't take a majority of the people to cause a revolution and you can do it with like 10%. Yeah, because the other 25% of people that are pissed off will just, they'll do nothing while the revolution happens because they're so disenfranchised, so you need, but like, okay, diagnosing the problem, foreign interference, foreign banks, foreign corporations trying to destroy American small business to basically buy the country out. Who? Who are they? Who are these people? If they're really, you say they on the left, the following. I'm talking about, I'm talking about like agitators that are people that are in the DSA and people that are communists and people that are looking to overthrow our system. They want to see the destruction of the capital system totally. So the people like talking about banks and stuff like that, they don't come into the equation because they're the people that actually want, definitely want to keep our system working because they're the ones that lend money, they're the ones that have the capital, they're the ones that can lend money to business owners and stuff like that. The people that want to destroy the system that we live in are people that are communists, people on the far left, they're people that don't really have anything to do. But I think the banks will be happy to loan us money to rebuild our nuclear devastation after a war. Like the way they loan to Germany after World War II. I don't know that a revolution here would be a nuclear war. But they would love to loan us money just to rebuild our cities because we destroyed them from idiocy. They'd be happy to see us rip ourselves apart. I think the thing is the destruction, the destruction of like the American way of life isn't about destroying buildings and creating rubble. It's about overturning who's in authority. And they want the people, and I say they, I mean like communists, they want to take the positions. Nobody want, Russia doesn't want the U.S. to die or China to die. They want them to be curtailed so that they have authority over the global economic system. But all of these major nations want each other to exist because they serve each other. Yeah, they want the U.S. to be neutered so that they can, well, the idea is Russia wants to get rich and have us do work for them at a weaker rate. It really just comes down to who's going to be doing the cheaper work, right? Russia says we want the United States to provide labor for us at $0.70 in the dollar. And the U.S. says no, Russia is going to pride for us at $0.70 in the dollar. When the U.S. dominates global energy pathways, they can then go to every country and say you work by our rules now. Do they do robots supplanting the workforce will solve a lot of these problems? Oh, so I think we're going to, I think it's going to get substantially worse with the Optimus bots coming in. The one thing I can say is it's fascinating that the Democrat solution was open the borders. The Trump solution is close the borders, hey, Elon Musk. The Democrats were after Elon Musk, they did not like him. So Elon's building these Optimus bots, we've got the new space port up in Louisiana. SpaceX stock is going to go nuts, it's going to go nuts, people are, these lefties are stupid. Let me, let me tell you, Elon says I'm going to buy Twitter and they were like, oh, so they all sold their Tesla shares at $300, dropping Tesla down to 113 or whatever. Then I'm sitting there watching the news, covering the news and I'm like, Tesla as a company has done nothing to warrant the stock loss. So I bought a ton of Tesla stock and then within like six months, boom, back to 300 because these people are dumb and are buying stocks based on emotion. So SpaceX launches their IPO, they're talking about, what are they doing? 10 starships a month or some stupid number? They want to do 10 a day. A day? A day? Oh my God. Look, that was me guessing I just read something on the other, his ultimate goal is to have like 10 starships flying a day. You have to move a lot of material into space to be able to build an actual sustainable colony on the moon and then Mars, right? You need a boat load of just mega tonnage and you have to put a lot of rockets into space to do that. If you watch the announcement, the announcement video that SpaceX put out today, the number, the flight frequency that Musk is talking about is just insane. So it's not, it probably won't always, it probably won't all just be from Louisiana. You're going to have SpaceX, what's called starbase in Texas. They might be launching out of Florida, but he's going to be launching a lot of rockets. And when I say a lot, it's like going to be a, it's going to be far beyond what most people would have seen. Let me just put it like this Bitcoin, all of these people for years were like, don't buy it. I don't buy it, don't buy it, don't buy it. Heads of banks are saying don't buy it. A lot of people bought it, most people didn't. Today, there were viral videos where a guy, he's in like Times Square and he goes, "I'll give you, if I could give you $10,000 "or one Bitcoin right now, what'd you take?" They go, "Oh, $10,000." A Bitcoin is 80 grand. It's like $78.5 right now, I just checked. But these people don't even know what it is. These big bankers were saying don't buy it. And then when the price kept going up and the patterns were visible and the market was expanding, they started buying it. So my point is, most of these people in every space, they're wrong about everything. Most people are wrong about everything. - I think that Jamie Dheimen was lying. I think they were telling. - Yeah, probably. - They don't do it and then they could buy it up. - So they could buy it up. - Yeah, and then they buy it up. This is what they do. They'll intentionally tank the market, tell everybody it's over. And you always see it in the media, they'll be like, this is it for Bitcoin, the electricity is too expensive, and then people start dumping in panic. And then once it goes down, it was at 120,000, it goes down to 60, they all start buying it back up and now it's at 80 again. And then now the estimates are like, oh, well, if you actually watch the market pattern, it's gonna go up to 200,000 with the next year or whatever. - Maybe it's less likely that Jamie Dheimen was lying when he said don't do Bitcoin. It's not good. And then, but maybe it's more likely that he knows people in the government, they're like, hey, Jamie, now's the time. - I believe that they all sold the top at 120. And then said, this is it, Bitcoin's over, we sold. And then everyone panic sells. And they go, oh, actually, and they buy it back up and double their holding. It's so easy to do. It's supposed to be illegal, I think. There's a term for that when you rock the market like that. - Well, if you are manipulating the market intentionally by going on big shows and lying, but there's ways to do it legally and just say, if they were to say, we're gonna liquidate a certain portion because we think we're at the top and it might go down and that's true. Then when it goes down, they say, see, we were right, we wanna reinvest in our opportunity. But they cause it to go down. - It's like, if you got a bowl of water and you're sloshing it to the left and to the right, all the water that's spilling over is being caught in a larger bowl underneath. That's the price of Bitcoin going up to the price of gold going up to the price of Bitcoin. They sell off high, they buy back low and sell off high and buy back low and sell off high. And all those little, what collects is-- - I'm just saying. - Those are Switzerland. In reference to like everything we're talking about, just think about how in 2015, everybody was saying you're stupid for buying Bitcoin. And then there were people who bought at 20,000, they mortgaged their houses to buy Bitcoin. And then when it dropped to 10, they panicked sold, being like, oh no, I've lost everything. And then five years later, it jumps up to some stupid number. Or I think was it like 2023 or 24, it hit 128, or some stupid number. - Yeah, no. - And if those people just did not, there was one sort of really funny, a guy did mortgages house. And then when the price dropped, he was like, I don't know what I'm gonna do, I guess. And then when it hit 120K, he cashed out like some stupid amount of money, like $60 million. And he was like, I'm good, I'm done. But my point is not to say it by Bitcoin or anything, my point is everyone was saying the wrong thing. Every single person was saying the wrong thing. You're stupid, you're buying fake. Doesn't even make sense. And then people got rich. - There were people in the tech world that knew, at least they understood the value of it, that it was an immutable currency with some form of-- - Remember, I get it, my point is just-- - I was surrounded by people who had it. - You're gonna hear people in the news, you're gonna hear people in your data life, they're gonna tell you you're wrong about something, and ignore them. - Yeah, especially when it's going out on a limb, taking a risk, and everybody's shaming you for being stupid, that's a good indication that you might be on to something. - Or screwed. (laughing) It really could go either way. Sometimes when people tell you you're stupid, it's 'cause you're actually stupid. Let's jump to the story from NBC News 8. It's politics. Abdul Elsaid distances himself from Hassan Piker's comments on Israel and Jewish Americans. Oh no. Oh no, what did he say this time? All right, let's pull it up. Hassan Piker Jews. You know, I typed that in. Here we go. Here's the video in question. Everybody's being told you gotta back off this guy. This is what, let me get the audio. Make sure it's working. - And you wanna know why? Because people don't fuck with Israel any longer. And if Jews in America keep putting this idea out there that they are singularly invested in Israel, eventually someone's gonna come around and take action, not against the state of Israel mind you, but against American Jews. That's a threat. Okay. We're teaching people the wrong lesson. I don't know how people don't recognize how dangerous this predicament is, how dangerous this is for Jews. - Wow. They run it around basically tying your entire identity to a country that inevitably will be seen as basically Jewish ISIS and you're saying, as Jews, this is all we care about. You're making anti-Semitism worse. - Now, here's the important thing to understand. If I set on this show, if American Jews attach their identity just to Israel, the way things are going in this country with people like Hassan, someone is going to attack them. I actually agree with the surface level sentiment. People like Hassan and his followers, in that video, we're not expressing what I just expressed. My point is, I don't care about Israel. If you're Jewish, I don't care if you like or don't like Israel. That's fine, you can have your politics, whatever. I got my criticisms, it's fine. But I do think these lunatics are gonna start attacking people. And you can see the threats. Now the issue is, Hassan is one of the preeminent espousers of this anti-Israel and Jew stuff. When his followers are saying it's gonna get dangerous, they're not saying I'm worried what those wack-aloon anti-Semites are gonna do, they're literally saying me and my friends are getting fed up. - Yeah, there's a difference between a warning and a threat. And it's a lot about the way you say it and how you outline it. Because if I say, if you step over the line, you're gonna get your legs, like that's obviously a threat that I'm threatening you that if you do this, something's gonna happen to you. As opposed to, hey, just so you know, if you step over that line, it will break your legs. That's a warning. So let's put it like this somewhere in between. - But no, let's put it like this. Let's say Ian is known to walk around with a ball-peen hammer striking people in the kneecaps. And then he says, hey, you, you best watch out, you crossed that line. Someone might smash your kneecap with a ball-peen hammer. Or you're gonna be like, yeah, he's threatening like, now let's say I'm standing next to Ian and I go, bro, watch out. That guy might smack your knee with a ball-peen hammer. - Yes. - This is the difference. And then his crew, they go on their shows like his followers. They say these things all day every day. Then he comes out and says, you better be careful because someone's gonna do something. Now ultimately, I would say the point is, we have a problem in this country. I was debating with Nick Frieda the other night with respect. He's a brilliant guy, I'm a big fan. But I disagree. I think we got too much into semantics. My point on the constitution, I say laws don't exist. The constitution doesn't exist. It's not that we as a people in the United States don't have one, it's not being used. That's not the point I'm making. I'm saying that Hassan Piker does not like this country, wants to destroy this country. The DSA, a third of the Democratic Party, wants to abolish the constitution outright. They don't abide by it. Federal judges have been issuing rulings, contradicting the constitution for a decade. So these people do not operate on the constitution until we force them to and they are growing and getting more and more powerful. So we have a subversive element in this country and I fear they are going to start attacking people. Let me steal man Hassan's perspective because I actually brought this up a couple of weeks ago that people in the United States, Jewish people that are Americans, refer to themselves as Jewish Americans. Maybe they refer to some of this as American Jews. If I go to their Instagram page, are they waving Israeli flags because they're Americans? And that doesn't make a lot of sense. So that concerns me. I'm not saying it's going to bring violence down on their heads, but I'm saying it concerns me if an American citizen waves the flag of a foreign nation fervently, over and over and over again. It's bizarre. It's fine if an American. They don't talk about Ukraine, do they? The American Ukrainians are here. They're supported that the president of Ukraine went to our Congress and they all waived Ukrainian flags. So their argument about Israel makes no sense. Now, the argument is real as a military state attacking another country. Those criticisms are fine. But the arguments about you can't have people in this country waving a flag of a foreign nation. That's crazy. Then the dude goes on his show and says, "Let's give money, let's give 200 billion." Hassan Piker says, "Let's give Ukraine 50 times the money we give Israel." And our Congress will waive their flags. It's his full of it. It's fine if your average American citizen waves a flag of another country, it's fine. The problem is if people that are elected to Congress or that are in the government are doing it, we shouldn't have dual citizens in Congress, we shouldn't have people that aren't born in the United States, like non-citizen, that are born in the US and Congress. Tax that advocate for foreign governments should be far regardless of which country it is. I don't think you get to just be like, I'm an American advocating for a foreign country. Therefore, I don't got to be far out. No, you're advocating for a foreign agent. Get out of here, go away. Yeah. The point ultimately is, they are not consistent. I can say it like this. I do not think the US should be funding Israel, especially as they're getting us involved in these stupid wars. They're bombing Lebanon when Trump signed to negotiate with Iran, screwing everything up. They're bombing Syria, which is now affecting a NATO partner, Turkey, who's trying to also move in the region, disrupting our negotiators with Syria. And I'm pissed about that. And I'm also pissed about us dumping 50. He acts the money into Ukraine. Now there's an argument about the U.S. interests, Cassius Belly. If the U.S. can make a proper arguments for war, I'd like to see him. I don't think they have. These people do not share that consistency. When I say I do not want to fund foreign countries wars, I mean it. When Hassan says it, he's only talking about Israel. When Ukraine came up, he literally mocked me for saying the military industrial complex is going into wars, it wants to maximize profits on these things. And he's like, yeah, of course. And then I said, see, I even agree with Hassan Piker on this. That's why I don't want 200 billion going to Ukraine. He immediately reverses course and says, yo, what? This dude, the old Ukraine, you're on your own boy. Like, that's crazy, man. He's just saying that he's opposed to the military industrial complex that people like you go, well, I agree. But when I say it, I mean all countries. I don't care if it's Afghanistan, South Sudan, whatever it may be. I don't like that they're dumping the SPR for this war and run. He's only talking about Israel. Do you think that the Democrat Party goes this way? I mean, I feel like if Hassan Piker continues on this streak, it's good for us for the mid-terms. Absolutely. I think the reason we got to be careful of this too. The reason woke might be coming back might be a Republican play. The WNBA stuff, the trans issue moved the needle heavy. If you're a Republican right now, I'm going to give you some sage advice, if I'm advising a Republican on how to win, I'm going to be like, oh, your coat, the economy sucks. You got an unpopular war. You need to change the conversation. It's a culture. You need a scapegoat. Let's talk about weird woke stuff. Let's get costumes banned again. Then start scaring people. Remember COVID lockdowns? Remember how they were firing you from your job because you made it off-color joke you saw on TV one time, I'll give you a really good example of this. Count Dankula. He made a joke video where he taught his pog to lift its paw as a Nazi pug and he got arrested for it. Graham Linnahann mocked him for it and called him a Nazi. Graham Linnahann, who made the show Father Ted, had a joke in Father Ted where there was a piece of tape on the window and the priest looking out the window, see some Asian guys walking. And he's like, what are they doing? He's like, no, he starts waving his arms. And then they see him with a little Hitler moustache waving his arms and throwing his arms around and his hair is shaking like he's Hitler. And I told this to Graham who since apologized, but what was so crazy about the woke era? I said, you know what's really sad about that story is that Dank probably made that joke inspired by you. You were the guy who did the Nazi jokes on Father Ted. He's the younger guy who watched that on TV and thought you were funny and wanted to be like you. And then when he did, you mocked him for getting arrested for it. That is the terrifying reality of what woke was. You invoke that memory in people. You'll earn some points in the midterm elections. Yeah. It's a good point. It's a correlative reality. It doesn't, it doesn't prove, of course, that that's the tactic, but that would be an interesting tactic. I, I, I got a name on his name. I mean, that's what's going on, right? That's the culture war in a nutshell. Well, I think the first culture war was emergent. It starts with gamer gate. They made a, what was it? A purple haired, paraplegic woman. No, I'm sorry, a purple haired amputee in battlefield and other weird things like that. And people are like, I'm playing a World War one video game. There's no amputee purple haired woman fighting in these wars. And then the, the, the left was just like, it's a video game. It's fancy cares. Now they're, oh man, I hear like the HBO Harry Potter is doing bad, but I don't know, I don't really care. They're allowed to have it, but they make like blacksnate. The first time it comes around, people like me and my friends, I mean, granted, this is, this is 14 years ago, right? So I'm in, I'm in my 20s, you know what I mean? I'm in my mid 20s being like, why are they ruining the, my, like, I'm, I'm going to tell you some guys. Did you, do you, do you know what the green, who green lantern is? Yeah. Green lantern. The name of the green lantern. Which one? The green lantern. Al Jordan. Al Jordan. Was the first green lantern? Was it Guy Gardner? Was he the first? No, it was Alan Scott. Okay. And let me, let me tell you about Alan Scott was the first green lantern and trust me, everybody, it's very important, very important, with the new show lanterns out. Alan Scott just had a magic ring and it wasn't really space stuff. It was just like a magic ring. And then eventually they were like, let's make it something different. And they made it the core and they made it outer space and they, you know, that's Hal Jordan, right? So there have been, I think eight, I think they're eight right now, uh, the eighth. So um, you had, uh, Hal Jordan, he's a, uh, he was an air force, uh, pilot, fearless, obensur, gave him the ring. Do you have fear? Are you afraid? No. And Hal Jordan's a wake up. Then we had, I think the, uh, we had a, we had a, uh, Guy Gardner was, was, was second, I think, or, I'm sorry, third, Alan Scott, then Hal Jordan, then Guy Gardner and Guy Gardner is a great character. The fourth was John Stewart. And this is back in like, what was this guy be like the eighties or something or even earlier than that? Uh, and he is a, it was like a black marine and no one really cared. I mean, as far as I can tell, like, you know, John Stewart was a great, uh, Green Lantern. I loved him in, in the comics and the cartoons. So do you want to, you want to take a guess at the identity and the, uh, lifestyle of the current Green Lantern gay, lesbian, lesbian, uh, out close. It's a bisexual, um, woman with all these. Sojourner, Mulayne, a bisexual African American woman is the new character. Okay. This is the kind of stuff that people are just like, you know, I, what, yeah, whatever gets the ring gets to be Green Lantern. No, you're chosen if you're fearless and you have great willpower. The point is, I don't care about a black character like John Stewart. He's a great character, isn't matter if he's black. And there's a, there's a, there's a funny, uh, video of viral videos off from, there's a, there's a podcast, there's a bunch of black dudes where name a, that a quiz, name a superhero who doesn't have black in their name or electric powers. And nobody could do it because like, for some reason, most black superheroes have electricity powers or black in their name. Yeah. But don't get me wrong. There's a lot of black superiors that don't. But a lot of them do. And John Stewart as Green Lantern was one of the iterations of Green Lantern that doesn't have electrical powers or he's not called black Green Lantern. But, uh, when they start doing these things, people are like, Hey, this is creepy and weird. So the, the first culture war was like, stop doing this. Then people started losing their jobs. You said, you said a naughty word, you're fired. Shane Gellick gets fired for SNL for doing an Asian stereotype, even though comedians do it all the time. Sarah Silverman got fired from a movie because years prior, when everyone was thought it was funny, she did blackface as a gag. That was the real culture word. Now what I think is happening is we've largely crushed woke. I do fear we'll come back of Democrats win. But I think the Republicans want it to come back right now a little bit because they want to freak people out and vote that memory and then use that to earn points when they don't have anything good to say about the economy. That would be a woke vaccination. Sorry. Democrats know it too, I mean, AOC was just talking about how woke one was too insane. And she was one of the pioneers of woke one. Yeah. So I made this point last week, ask her which ideologies from woke one she currently disagrees with. Right. And there's none. She agrees with literally everything. That was a very subversive way of her to phrase that saying woke one assumes that there is more than one. Yeah. She's running us for woke we have did you guys know that we are just living in the glory days without woke because it didn't seem that great, but what what year well after woke one. So 2022 to now, I guess, but we're going to be honest after Jane Gill is selling at stadiums. So it'll be really difficult. Tony is off the charts popular super super offensive to and kids are offensive. The kids are so offensive. I've just I just spent a month with my nieces and nephews and their algorithms are just like, even for me, I'm like, whoa, guys, this is a lot. Did you see I forgot the guy's name. We shouted him out when he needed to be on kill Tony. And he said he was like, man, I had heard, you know, I don't follow the news a lot. That they had this rave in Israel is like big dance party. And then I people my friends told him like, did you see what happened like all those dudes were paragliding in and I was like, oh, cool, man, like because he didn't like if you don't know what that was, you know, and then, and then he he ramped it up as offensive as he could. And he was like, he did a machine gun joke. Did it. Did it. Did it. Did it. Yeah. You're a fence. It's a lot. You're a lot to be offensive. But it's so the key is a good one. Don't become cruel because what'll happen is you have the opportunity to woke us stomped. Now, and it's like mercy, mercy. You have to give it mercy. If you slaughter and just become, that's how it wins. That's how it gains in strength is if you become evil, if you become like devastated. I don't. I don't. What do you mean? Like the woke is is begging for mercy right now. I don't agree. I mean, what does that say? Do you give it mercy? Disagree with that. Just talking about. It's not wrong. It was begging for mercy. The whole woke industry, the young people have had it, dude, they, they, they, they, they saw it. They just banned a costume. What do you tell their ass? That's a minor infract, they just, they just had to pull down their golf club commercial because a woman fell in the ground five years ago target wouldn't have pulled it and they would have doubled down and tripled down and quatch - What? - On the weird racist. - No, they would have fired 17 people. - They fired 17 people. Are you joking? - No, they were intentionally making stuff like that five years ago. And they were trying to sell it and tell people it was normal. - Like we hear outfits. - Like a little what? - It's a sample outfit, dude. He looks like a minstrel. Someone just missed it. - Ian, at peak woke, if they released that, they would have fired seven people. They would have come out and done a public press conference, Mayacolpa. - Yeah, for sure. - I don't know. - I do know. - Yeah. - It's like a kid. - You watched it, dude. - I don't know what you're talking about. - I remember when you were in YouTube. I remember looking at the analytics on YouTube, on May 1st, when they intentionally nuked every channel that was calling this stuff out. If they would be like, they'd give you a racist thing. They'd be like, "It's not racist. It's racist of you to complain about it." And then they'd try and sell you these weird kids with John, like you are from a different dimension. This is a Mandela thing going on. - Do not live during the woke era. When the Netflix executive got fired for explaining what Rachel's thores were to his staff. A Netflix executive was telling staff, "These are bad words we don't want on Netflix." And they fired him for it because he said the word. - But like, okay, remember with the talking things you were saying, teaching little kids to tuck their genitals or whatever to be trans-ish. They were intentionally selling, that's like weird. - That's not racism. That's woke. They were selling products for woke people. They were putting the progress pride flag with the black stripe on it. They weren't selling samba costumes. - It's crazy to me that wokeism will turn on a culture and use it as its whipping boy. And so it can force you like garbage like that. Sorry. - No, it can't. What are you talking about getting you to hate the other? - So it doesn't really matter who your target is. - I would agree with that to a certain respect, but just to clarify, they were not selling anything remote. They were using that against people. Don't you think the tucking stuff, it wasn't racist, it was sexist? - It was pro trans. - Yeah, sexist. - That's not sexist. - You're like forcing sexuality on people. - No, it's not sexist. - That's part of the whole thing. That's why the pride flag added a black and brown stripe. - Yeah, it's very interesting. - Because it's encompassing black people and gay people in the same group. And anything that opposes them or stands in their way, they would get fired or canceled. - It was virtue signaling. And if they'd be like, no, we're not taking this down because we support the young black man's right to dress up like a samba clown. That would be them. - That's never happening. - And they're not virtue signaling. - That's not what they did. They got rid of Aunt Jemima. They got rid of Uncle Ben and they got rid of the Land O'Lake's Native American. - Because they're saying, okay, fine. I will be told when I am being racist and you're the one who's allowed to define me as racist and I'm sorry for it. - Yeah, I have a different recollection of what woke was like. - What were you doing during that era? - Drugs. - You were sitting at my house the whole time. - It'd be no exactly what was going on. - I don't know, man. I just, I believe it goes deeper than it's not, I don't know, man. - All right, let's jump to this next story from MediaEye. This one's got me, got my gears all grounded up. Signalling to the tribe. Joe Rogan calls out JD Vance for odd demons claim from their interview. Now this one's, this one really grabs my gears. Okay, I don't know if they have the time stamp on this one, any kind of laughed very uncomfortably. - Yeah, what to say. - I think with all due respect to Mr. Vance, what I really like as a person, I think he's a very nice guy. I think he's signalling to the tribe. - It is. It's a political polemic. You're not looking at the data. Like he says, oh, I want to look into the UFO issue. I just haven't had the time. I actually understand that there's a lot going on in the world, you know, but it's also, you've had some time, so maybe, you know, go look, go look at me. - I kind of understand it, but kind of don't. - I'm with you. - I'd be the first thing to go to church, like listen, bro, look into it. - Look into it, exactly. - To quote Eddie Bravo. - They're referring specifically to JD Vance referring to aliens as maybe demons. American alchemy podcast host Jesse Michaels joined Rogan. At one point, the issue of Vance came up specifically his thoughts on aliens possibly being demons. He didn't really have a good explanation for that. I pressed him on that, and he kind of laughed very uncomfortably because he didn't know what to say. I think that with all due respect to Mr. Vance, what I like as a person, I think he's a very nice guy. I think he's signaling to the tribe. I don't necessarily disagree, but when Rogan says I don't understand it, that is where I'm floored because this is a single paragraph thing to read on the internet or from any tweet. And the issue of aliens and demons has been extremely prominent in the UFO conversation for the past five years. And that is whether they are aliens or another planet or the things we're experiencing are otherworldly entities of negative influence, i.e. demons we don't know. Christians who have a Christian theological world view would argue what you think our aliens, you have been convinced are actually demons. They are what we define as demons, malicious, malevolent entities that they're whispering in your ear, something that, in fact, it's not particularly difficult to understand. And I don't understand how Joe has missed this because it's such an interesting element of the conspiracy, the cover up, the question of what's really going on. Guys, I watch so much weird flat earth dumb stuff. I just absolutely love watching all of the conspiracy stuff, the hollow earth, the flat earth, the agartha, the ice wall. It's fun. How do you miss this one? This is this is another really big one that there's a firmament, the earth is flat and what you think our aliens are in fact demons. But I think they're demons and angels, the aliens. And that's actually the argument that what people think are aliens are actually just people experiencing other manifestation of an angel or a demon. I'll say I don't like, I guess I would call it superstition, but I have met what looked like alien life forms through DMT. It wasn't just a trip, like I tripped on acid, I've tripped on mushrooms. It was like a full on 10 minute conversation with beings or personalities. What's that? What were their names? I never asked why. I just wanted to know if they were God. What's that? That's that's rude. I asked that one of them, are you God? And he went no, I was like, what is God left? He's yeah, he laughed because so many people asked the thing that they're like, it would like kind of like my dad's body, but all I saw was a shimmering white purple, all the colors of the rainbow shimmering in a in a hominid body form. And he was like man for adult male. And then the other one was adult female. And then the other one was like young man. It was these three energy forms of like feminine masculine child. They say they were. What did they say they were? When I asked it, what is God? He said, we don't know, but we think it's this. And he put his hands out and also it showed me a vortex like a spiral in galaxy. I was like, okay, he's like, we we think it's the vortex. We don't know the vortex. Yeah, the function of a vortex reversing entropy, pulling things together, binding atoms together, this force. It's just too rudimentary. He didn't know either. He's like, I don't know, we don't know, but we, I don't know, you know, we're working with them to figure it out, maybe. Maybe you were talking to entities beyond the simulation. Maybe you were on drugs. He's not a drug. That's the thing. Drug means dried herb. Sounds like drugs. Your body makes it. I was just inhibiting the inhibitor, basically, inhibiting the inhibitor. Yeah. Well, I was actually dosing DMT, but with like, ayahuasca, they inhibit, they destroy the inhibitor's ability to stop you from tripping because your normal state is balls tripping. You've got it confused that with ayahuasca, the inhibitor is to stop your body from destroying it and passing it through. It binds to it so that it can enter your system and go into your brain. I don't want to speak out of turn because I need the chemistry in front of me, but as far as I know, the ayahuasca, the compilation of plants that they make the ayahuasca with causes your body to stop inhibiting the DMT trip, as opposed to just smoking a bunch of DMT and overriding your ability to stop it. No, no. When you smoke it, it goes straight into your blood through your lungs. When you eat it, your body can't process it through digestive tract. Because it destroys it or passes it. Yeah, right. But then the ayahuasca makes it not destroy it. When they mix them together, one inhibits and allows it to go into your body and be absorbed. So it's like, it's silly to say there's no angels and demons. I don't like, like I said earlier, superstition, but it's you don't like superstition, but it's silly to say that there's no amd because I personally experienced it. I still wouldn't call them angels and demons. I mean, there you go, you mean, if you're mean to me, I could be like, you demon, but I'm like, you're you, you know? DMT is broken down by monomene oxidase in the gutten liver. Yes. And the ayahuasca vine, Benastereopsis copy contains M-A-O inhibiting beta carbolines, such as harmaline. It temporarily inhibits the enzyme monomene oxidase, allowing DMT to become psychoactive. That's it. Monomene oxidase destroys DMT in the gut. But then if you smoke it, it doesn't happen. You're saying? So do you think that you can, you agree with conservative Christians that drugs are a portal to demons? No, it's too, it's too vague of a phrase because drug literally is translated from dried herb, Drew egg. It's an old French word. That's the thing. But it, you know, I don't really, I don't think any chemical. Okay, taking like a lot of stuff. It's not a drug in methamethyl, methamethyl, meth is in a drug is not an MDMA. You're talking about crystal math. You're arguing, you're arguing semantics to avoid the question. And she asked you a question. It's a vague phrase. Well, a lot of, a lot of Christians think that a lot of Christians say don't, don't do drugs, don't touch that stuff because it's affordable and today. the demonic realm and it sounds like you might agree. - They call alcohol spirits. - Oh, I think he was talking to demons. I don't, I don't, I don't wouldn't call them demons. They were waiting for me to give them the cue. Like, are they gonna be evil or good? It's up to me when I meet them. If you're afraid of them, they become horrific and if you're kind. - You're, you're presuming that all interaction to the demons are going to be anything but charismatic. - Well, why would the demon come to you as a grotesque nightmare creature screaming in your face? - Because you're afraid. - Why would it do that? It's not gonna get anything from you if it does. So it takes on your perception. Listen, Ian, demons want things, right? Are they going to get a thing from you? I'm going to, or they're gonna appear as a glowing, beautiful creature saying, well, answer any question you want, Ian. We'll give you secrets. - It might be like, there's a thing to be afraid of. I'm here to protect you. It might do that. - Of course. It's exactly what it would do. - It might just dominate you. - Beautiful, glowing is like, no, no, look, we're not God. Just, are you gonna ask us anything? I'll tell you, and then they'll lie to you. And you believe it. - My experience with psychoactive drugs is that it does make you more spiritually vulnerable. And if we're going to believe that there's a God and that there is such a thing as good, and for me it's Jesus, then it makes sense that you are also gonna be vulnerable to evil. - Yeah, I've been in a lot about detox right now because literally alcohol they call them spirits. And it is psychoactive, alcohol is psychoactive. - Oh yes it is. - A portal to some spiritual entity that is the bacteria that these softwit, the candida in it. I don't know if it's like microorganisms controlling your thoughts. And so we're like, oh, that's the demon as it's the biological chemistry. - I like that theory. - But not that every chemical, 'cause at what point do you define something as a chemical and now it's a drug before it was? - Everything that's not any collection of elements that are bound together is some kind of chemical water, water is a chemical. - So for instance, if you ate the marijuana plant out of nature, it's just a plant growing on the ground. Like a drug is a chemical or a substance that changes how the body or mind works. - Well that would be sugar. I mean that would be water. - Sugar does not change how the body or mind works. - No, come on. - I mean have you looked into this psychoactive nature? - I'm not wasting time on a semantic thing. - Okay then you give me some examples of what that is. There's a lot of chemicals that can change the way the mind works that aren't drugs. - Yes they are. - You're dead. - Arguing semantics for no reason is not meaningful and nobody wants to hear it. - Saying sugar doesn't change the way you think. - It does not. - Where did you, I mean look it up dude, it's a psychoactive bro. - Am I not? - I am going to say it again. Sugar is psychoactive, let's pull it up. - So what does Joe mean signalling to the tribe? - It means that JD Vance has heard people say aliens are demons, he's repeating it, but it isn't. - Oh he doesn't believe that. - I don't think that's unfair of Joe to say because if Vance could not explain what it means, then he may be signalling to the tribe. But the idea that Joe afterwards said, I don't kind of understand that kind of do, but I don't, that's where I'm like, come on. Joe, Joe, you know, I'm not gonna put the weight of the world on his shoulders, I gotta know everything, but Joe is the kind of guy expect to be like, let me explain that the aliens are demons. - Yeah, he's the guy. - He gets to be. - So legally sugar is not a drug, obviously we know that. It's considered a food, but it does cause the brain to release opioids and dopamine. - It doesn't change how it works. It just makes your brain release something. Changing how it works rewires it or blocks something, caffeine is a drug. - Causing it to release a chemical, changing it. - Everyone knows the word drug means, and you arguing semantics is a waste of everyone's mind. - I think most people don't know where the word comes from. - Well cares. - Eating foods. - You're speaking a common language. - They know, and I'm, I don't think they do, and you're like, well, who cares? - Eating food changes the way that your brain works, because if you're, - Well, but it doesn't change the way your brain works. - It doesn't change your perception. - No, food does not, so you guys are arguing now. - No, we're not. - We are, it changes the way your brain works. - It changes the way your brain works. - But it doesn't change the way your brain works. - No, eating food does not change what your brain does. - No, it does. - It makes your brain do something. - Yes, it does, yes. - Drugs will, oh my God, Ian, are you-- - You just add him to cow, dude. Of course it changes the way your brain works. - No. - No, it doesn't, if you're in a bad mood. - If I have a box, and when I click a button, a chicken comes out, and then I put fuel in it, and press a button, and a chicken comes out. It did not change what the box does. If I then don't bleach it, it press a button, and a dead chicken comes out, that is changing the way the box works. - Well, the way the chicken comes out faster, or if two chickens come out, there's a lot of ways you can-- - It is still a function of the thing, it's normal pace, it's one chicken per day, dude. This is why people complain. She asked you a question. You know what she was asking you, but instead of just having a conversation, you started talking about mumbo jumbo. - I mean, the simple answer to, do I think drugs open gates to spirits, or demons is no, because I can't answer it properly. I could say, I can't answer that question, and they'd just be done with it. I'm trying to clarify the question, so I can answer. - Most normal humans can answer the question. - Because most normal humans don't think beyond their fucking hand, dude. - No, because they understand colloquial English. That means there is a common understanding of what a word means, and they don't say, please define every, instead of every word, every single time. - Let's talk about caffeine. I don't think caffeine goes to portals to demons. - It is a drug. - But I think methylendaxi, methyl MDMA. - I know that she's referring to psychoactives, caffeine's a psychoactive drug. No, I'm sorry, psychedelics. - Well, it's psychoactive. Psychedelic is like a hardcore psychoactive. - We were asking about psychedelic drugs. - Like drugs that we learned about in, come on Ian, drugs that we learned about in health class. Don't do drugs. - Like weed, like marijuana? - Yeah. - And you have cannabinoid receptors in your body for a reason. I think that, like William Randall told us. - You don't know what I meant Ian. - Are you talking about weed? - No, no, I'm just talking about psychoactive psychedelics that the group of drugs that we're talking about to do. - The hallucinogenics, that's, we, we to psychoactive. It's a psychoactive drug. It's like the most common. - So we're not talking about meth, which wires you or coke, which wires you. She's clearly talking about DMT and LSD and psilocybin. She's talking about tripping and experiencing things, not being wired by caffeine, having a cup of coffee. - Okay, from that perspective then, I think demons are ever present, that the malevolent energy fields can, can move through you at will. So you're more aware of them when you're open higher frequencies, but not that it, like, and you might say, just seeing the demon makes you more demonic. But also you may be able to witness and understand it from a distance by seeing it and then override it and know how to counter it because you've experienced it. So I don't know if it's like, creates possession necessarily. I don't think it necessarily does. I think there's a good chance that JD Vance is earnest. I don't think he's just signaling. - Well, he should have explained to Joe what it means because Joe needs to know. And if he did know, Joe wouldn't be saying I don't quite understand it. I mean, so someone needs, and then this other guy, this frustrates me. Jesse Michaels joining in, being like, look up the data man, talk about it's like, neither, like, I just like, he's laughing, they're laughing, and he's like, he should have looked into it. And my response is if someone says aliens are demons, and they have on this show, I'm like, what do you mean by that? What does that mean? Like, explain it to me, I don't understand. And then they explain to me and I go, oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, it makes a lot of sense. And but to be fair, I've been having these conversations for 20 years. I had a conversation Mike Cernovich and Alex Jones. And we're talking about DMT trips and demons. And Cernovich was explaining very much, these are demons. - Maybe you are meeting entities who are trying to trick you. They are, you are not supposed to communicate with them. It is not natural that you can communicate with them. And when you meet them, they're trying to make you do things you're not supposed to do. - It might be addiction is a demon tricking you into thinking you want something. - I mean, I'm in recovery, I'm a recovering alcoholic. Personally, I haven't talked about that publicly, but I'm in a recovery community. And a lot of people equate addiction to spiritual death and talk about their addiction in terms of meeting something close to the devil. - Look man, everybody, any time the word marble comes up in conversation, I want to have a cigarette. I haven't had a cigarette since 2019. I'm still like addicted to cigarettes. It's not the same type of addiction that doesn't tend to ruin your life from day to day. But I can't understand that. Part of me wants to start smoking just to understand what that's like. - I don't recommend it. - I don't, it's subtle. It comes up and you're like, oh, I could go for another one of that. - Oh, smoking is later. It's so weird. - Woking marble is the greatest. - Yeah, I maybe have like a glass of wine and once a year on special occasion or something. My brother quit smoking one day, just he decided to do it, just stopped. And like, I kind of think I'd do the same thing. - Yeah, you literally, Chris is just like, I'm not going to smoke anymore. - When I quit drinking booze, it was just like, okay, I'm not going to do that anymore. It was no, there was no issue I didn't have with draws or just like, all right, fine, I stopped. But when he comes to cigarettes, man. - You know what I was told? Is that Asians have very low rates of addiction? - Is that true? - I don't know. I kind of feel like they're drunk, you know what I mean? - Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of drinking in Japan, definitely. And there was a-- - In terms of like hard drug use, it's rare. - Yeah. - For Asians. - It's hard to get it to Japan. - So I wonder if it's just like genetic predisposition. I smoked weed one time when I was a teenager. I did not enjoy it, I thought it was terrible. I opioids don't work on me. When I go to the hospital, when they give me opiates, they do nothing. - Not from opiates. - Yeah, I had a kidney stone and it was agonizing. They gave me morphine, it did nothing. And they gave me tortile and said, "And then the pain was gone." And I was like, "Let's go." And then I was like, "Hey, it worked." Yeah, the vikin'in does nothing. You know, oxycodone, nothing. - Bring this in. - Go ahead. - There's a couple of things that are nuts. First, I've taken a methadone 'cause a friend of mine was recovering heroin addicts. He was like, "Wanna try methadone? "This is helping me kick my heroin addicts." I was like, okay. And I was just like slump. And I was like, I see where yoga comes from 'cause my body was so loose and rubbery. And a three days later I was like, "Hey, can I try that again?" He's like, "No." And saved me from an opioid addiction, basically, 'cause it was felt, not good. It just felt very, I felt really loose. But I've noticed with drug addiction, even hard, hard, hard, intense addiction, if you can not do it for a day, you can do that over and over again. And then by all of a sudden, you realize you haven't had it for six days and you're like, okay. - I mean, anything that you're, like when I quit smoking, I just stopped. I was, we flew to Australia. - Oh yeah, well. - I figured I had it before I got on the plane. - It's different for everybody, right? - Well, I mean, at the end of the day, it's just a decision, right? And one of the things that you try and do is you're like, I'm not gonna have whatever it is I'm after right now. And I'll put it off. And if you can put it off, that one craving and then hopefully it'll go away. Obviously, things that have withdrawn and can mesh up medically is different. But if you're dealing with things that, you know, like cigarettes or maybe alcohol, if you can put it off, just say I'm not gonna have this, I'm not gonna have a drink right now. I'm not gonna have a cigarette right now. I'll wait. And then the next time you have a craving, you know what, I don't wanna have a cigarette right now. I'll wait. - I found that, I need to rely on a higher power for the urge to drink. Because you have, alcoholics have an odd mental blind spot when it comes to the craving for the first drink. It's like your willpower for other things can be so incredibly strong. But when it comes to alcohol, it can be a split second boot driving a little bit sour. - So East Asians, Chinese Koreans and Japanese have ALDH22 variant, which alcohol causes flushing nausea and headache and racing heart. They tend to have substantially less alcohol use disorder. And on top of that, large data sets do show that East Asians have extremely low rates of substance abuse disorder. - That's a protein. - It's probably why I don't like drinking. I think alcohol tastes miserably awful, and it's unpleasant. - Man, I love it. - There's not a single. - Irish. - There's not a single alcoholic drink that I think tastes pleasurable in any meaningful way. - It's a variant. I wonder if that's a mutation that got hinged into the DNA of the East Asians at some point. - Of course it is, 'cause the Asians have it and other people don't. - Or I think they're more likely, it's common in East Asia. - Interesting. Well, I don't like drinking, I find it to be awful. But here's the best part. Asians have gambling problems. - What, dude? (laughing) - It's true. (laughing) - Asians love gambling, and anybody who goes to a casino knows this. You go to MGM National Harbor, everything's China. - Bro, I saw this, Asian dude. - I think it's just anecdotal, just throwing it on the roulette table. Yeah, oh, no, it wasn't roulette, it was crap. Just launching thousands and thousands and thousands, and he was with his buddies from work and they were like, he was teaching them how to gamble. This is crazy. - anecdotal, he looked Asian. (laughing) - I'm into the genetics of like why? Because I wonder if there's a gene that actually disposes Asians to want to gamble. If that's like an ancient gamble survived in those that didn't perish, or something? - No, I think that, well, maybe. I think they, Asians like math. I do. And what's fun about playing like, I like playing Yatsi. There's no money in Yatsi. Everyone's always like, you can't, no, no, no. I like playing Yatsi. 'Cause you like, you like seeing the rares, you know, five of a kind come up. Yatsi, you know what I mean? - You do that when you get, when that pops, that's the feeling I get when I hit the weed. (laughing) It's that joyous, like fervent success for a moment. - I don't know that 10 of you are experienced time dilation from getting a Yatsi. - Time dilation? - Yeah, when you smoke weed, they're the time dilation. - The way you perceive time is a little different, so. - And then I get really mad when I'm playing Yatsi and I just can't get anything, and I'm just getting enrollment. So, here's a funny, we don't have something funny. If you ever go, well, if you ever play Blackjack or Bokorat, players will scream monkey. Have you ever seen this? So, dealer's got a six. Right, Blackjack, you guys don't play Blackjack, right? Deals got a six. You've got, let's say you got 18. You know, dealer puts the cards out, you got an eight. Bam, a jack, you got 18. He's got a six, and you're like, oh man. So everybody makes, you know, they stay, they stay, whatever. The dealer flips over the face down card, it's a queen. He's got 16. Players go, monkey, monkey. What they're calling for is a 10. They're saying bust, monkey means 10 value card, and you want to know where the word monkey comes from. - Can we say it on YouTube? - Monarchy. - Oh, okay. - It comes from the word monarchy, because Asians were playing at casinos, and they'll go monarchy, monarchy. And other people heard monkey, just like Godzilla's name was actually Gojira, but it sounds like an accent saying Godzilla. - You know, I would. - Gojira. - The boxer rebellion in China was because the opioid trade, the opiate trades from the British poisoning the Chinese people. I wonder if they have a cultural stigma against drugs too, which is part of why they have an adapted extreme addictions. Because they were, there was a severe addiction crisis at the time in the late 1800s, in the mid 1800s. I don't know. - The opiate trades. - Yeah, the opiate trades. The British were trying to basically enslave the Chinese by poisoning their population. I do want to stress that the monarchy monkey story is, it's, I don't want to call it apocryphal. It's just, it's so old, no one knows for sure where it originated. Like Chapsui, you know the legend of Chapsui. - No, what's that? Chapsui is? - No. - Like Chinese food? - Okay. - You've never had Chapsui before? - No, not a big Chinese food person. - The, the urban legend is that a bunch of like truckers or bikers came to an old diner, a Chinese food restaurant, and the, the guy was like, no, no, no, we closed, we closed, we closed, we closed. And they were like, oh, come on, like we got, we, we're hungry. And then he said, all I have left is garbage, chapsui. And they were like, chapsui, yeah, yeah. So we shop, he scraped all the plates into a pan, refried it back up and served it to him. - Delicious. - I've never been like, I don't know if it's true or not, that's what I, I read that on the internet. So, you know, it must be true. - It's gotta be true. - Yeah. - Gotta be true. - Yeah. - Oh man. We just, we got big golf news breaking right now. What is this? This is from earlier. Okay, let's talk about the golf stuff, right? I got, I got to pull this thing up. I thought I had the cowboy already pulled up, but let's do it. And we'll play the ad too. - The golf channel program. - Yeah, let me, let me, let me pull the news up first because we, because I was, I was, I was like, we're not gonna do both because we have the, we talked about woke already. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let me search for the cowboy ad and show you guys because now, apparently, did we not play this one? - No, but I like your video. You played it earlier. - Yeah. All right. So, basically, here's the news. The golf brand, cowboy, had to apologize for an ad showing a woman being shoved to the ground. I just say, who cares? It was a weird ad though. We'll play in a second. But apparently now there's this news. Golf channel is delaying the launch of Big Break and Good Good, which was scheduled to prepare tonight because one of the show's sponsors requested to have its branding removed in the wake of the cowboy, good, good driver ad. - No, this is so manufactured. This is, well, wait a minute, here's the ad. I mean, maybe. Look, I gotta be honest. The commercialist dumbin' makes no sense. You saw, right? - Yeah. - So, if you were a marketing company and you were like, we want to get a lot of attention right now. So, let me just say this, I'm getting everybody in the poker world is arguing over a post that I made. We were talking about it earlier. And I've got like two or three million views now on my post. And I'm talking to a pro and he's like, listen, like you ought to understand like the reason why they're talking about what you said. I basically said that I play low stakes and July made a hundred bucks an hour. And what these pros are like, they think you're saying you play like a thousand hours and you make a hundred bucks an hour every day you play and you're playing like nine to five. And I was like, yeah, I never said that. Like, but you got to understand you like maybe when you sit, when next time you bring it up and I immediately said, why would I stop saying this stuff that makes people talk about me? Yeah. I'm like, I don't care. I'm not a pro player. I'm never going to be a pro. I'm not going to ever be respected for being a poker player. I don't care. And I got them all to talk about me and all their podcasts and all their posts and they're making memes. They're posting photos of me. That's the real podcast. They're posting memes of me like winning the world series because I won two hundred dollars like after winning a single CBET pot, he won the world series and I'm like, they all just keep posting photos of me. So maybe with this Callaway thing, they made a stupid fake ad on purpose to create controversy. I think so. I think it's too heavy handed. Here's the ad. It's really dumb. Do not touch my new driver. That's it. That's it. Was there anything else? I can't read the opening text. It says good, good studios presents. They should have had a dark back. That was it. For that reason, 5 million views, all of this crazy, crazy nonsense is happening because you hit a girl. Fake. That was funny. That was funny. Right. Like I said, if you want to get attention, look, they got 5 million views on the ad now. It got taken. Now it's got 5 million views on this one post. Now golf channels bringing it up. I never even heard of good good. Now I have, I never heard of Callaway. Now I have and a lot of people are going to say, I don't care about this commercial. I'm going to go check out that driver. I heard of Callaway Golf because the Callaway Golf company manufactures golf balls right behind the other remains studio. Oh, yeah. You're going to be mass. Yep. Yeah. and hot because the guy body checked a chick. - Yeah, it's like a golf influencer and that guy was like, I guess like the co-founder. And he, body checked her, I guess. It's a weird commercial. - He'd do like, funny your stuff. And then backfired, I guess. - Or didn't. - I don't think it backfired. I think it's the intended condition. You know that, you know, remember Gangnam style? - Yeah. - You know that wasn't, that was a not. That was a marketing campaign. - That was it really? - Yeah, yeah. I don't know exactly how, what happened. - They created, they created, the virality was not real. They, they, they propped up. So there's a variety of things you can do. I'm not going to get into the fine details of their campaigns. I don't know all the details. But one of the things that we see commonly is, a song will become popular because the studio will line up 100 prominent influencers and they'll say we'll give each of you $10,000. We want you all on the 15th, 16th and 17th of this month to post a video using this song and dancing to it. And then all of a sudden, all their followers are, like, they fake, they make memes. So they'll go to an influencer and say, we want you to do it, we wrote a joke. You are going to steal cookies from your friend or boyfriend or whatever. And then you're gonna run, you're gonna fall down and spill the cookies. And then you're gonna put a title that says, me when I try to steal the cookies and it blows up in my face. Then you're all gonna do it, playing the song and then all your followers will start remaking it. And all of a sudden the song gets a billion views. And then everyone's talking about the person. So Ghanam Psy was very much something like that. So people think they're like, oh man, this song that heard us so great. No, don't get me wrong, it's size fantastic, but it was a campaign. The, I think it might have been scooter brought, I'm not sure, but they met with Psy. And they said, we are going to run a campaign and make this song number one. And, you know, we want the rights and here's our plan, here's how we're gonna do it. And he said that Psy was like, his management was, if you do this, we don't even want the money. Like, make it big. You can keep all the money, you make off it. We can make money elsewhere. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we, like, that's money. We don't want to get, we're gonna get you paid. But here's the game plan. And they ran a viral marketing campaign. It was not organic. People thought that it was just going viral, but in fact, it was a company making it happen. - Chase Hughes is the psychologist that talks about mammalian brain because a lot of how we interact is the mammal aspect of us, like dogs you can do. But it's one of the four pillars of the mammalian hierarchy is popularity. Is where you rank in the tribe. And other mammals will see how you rank in the tribe, how the others treat you. And then they'll, they'll either like you or this. And I feel like this is what this marketing does. If you see that it's popular, part of your mammalian brain just thinks it's good because it's popular. - It's worth noting that the outrage about this, right? This is part of why the female, I guess, what's the hero's journey for females in modern storytelling doesn't really work. You can't do something that hurts females and have people respond positively to it. You know, you can't have a woman that starts the show and then gets beat down for the second act and then rises above. You lose the audience of that second act. - Here's my pitch. Here's my pitch for Calloway. Here's the commercial I would have done. - Okay. The woman is with the guys and they're golfing. It's her turn to golf. She grabs her golf club. And as she's going there, the guys are all chuckling and they're gonna be like, "This is gonna be miserably bad." And then she goes and she misses and spins and falls down and they all start laughing at her. And then they go, "Man, women suck at golf, don't they?" And then she walks over and grabs the Calloway driver, looks at him and then just, "Adam Sandler, happy Gilmore is it?" And they go, "Whoa!" Eat with Calloway clubs, even women can play golf. - I don't think that would have gone over. - You would have seen in the '80s, for sure. Yep, just hammer on the head, like so obvious. Oh, now I get super strength because I have the right tool. No, it's just, Calloway clubs are so good, even women can drive. Okay, I wanted to point out, seeing a woman get the shit kicked out of her in a movie with Mad Max. Fury Road, the one with Charlize Theron. She was like the hero of the movie. She's getting the crack kicked out of her by Max and others. But she has like a shaved head. So it didn't really look like a woman. That's why I did, part of maybe why it did so well. It wasn't like, I saw the feminine getting abused. - See, it was more tolerable to watch a woman get abused because her her head was shaved. - Yeah, 'cause she was masculine. So I wanted to see that. - I like, hey, remasculing, get beat down. I was like, yeah. - I like punk rock, which means I find things funny that bother people. Like, grow up, stop getting so offended about things. When you get all mad, and I think this is true for a lot of people, especially people who vote for Trump in the forechan. When you're outraged by something that's meaningless, like the Halloween costume, I want to make fun of you for that. I don't care. So like, when I see stuff like this, I actually think a lot of people are gonna start mocking this maybe. They'll make their own versions, where it's just they make fun of the commercial by beating women or something, you know? They're gonna be like, oh, I'll make one better, you know? - When I see people get really upset about what I think is irrelevant stuff, I have like a choice to make. Do I just like, just dig in on them and give them more of what they seem to be afraid of? To try and snap them out of it or to ruin them? Or do I completely dismiss them? Like, do you ridicule the people that are in pain over nothing that are freaking out about the dumbest stuff? Or do you just ignore them? - Depends how good of a person you want to be that day. I feel like, I mean, you have to have compassion for them, right? - I'm a fight club fan. I liked when Brad Pitt dumped the lie. What did he do? He poured lie on his hand? Is that what it was? And not any is like, you know, you can try and black out the pain or you can accept it and then you can put water on it to make it worse or you can use vinegar to neutralize the burn or whatever. And I don't literally think that's a good idea or anything like that. I'm just saying, the idea of it was when you've experienced very serious pain, these things roll off your back. You know, it's very much, you'll play guitar, right? When you start playing guitar for the first time, your fingers, they hurt. And then after like, you know, a year, nothing will ever hurt your fingers again. The skin's just dead. And it's funny 'cause I'll even explain it like, you probably can't even tell my fingers are super-calist. But they are so deeply calc over a long period of time, they're just permanently armored for playing the guitar. I just, I, to be fair, like if I play guitar for like four hours straight, I'd probably bleed. But just in general, nah, I just, you know, first started playing guitar and you'd hurt, so you're pressing your fingers against the strings. And that's an analogy for just life in general. Most of these woke people are soft, frail, squishy. - The kind that we're gloves to the gym. - I like the archetype of the warrior poet because of that, like they go to combat. They see horror. They lose people in the most vicious way they kill. And then they come back and they're so calist, but still they feel like somehow you can use the calist to your advantage as a protective buffer against nonsense, but also you can see what really matters. - It's a question of does it matter? And most of these things just literally don't. They, they don't matter. So, so for example, do you guys hear the story about the guy who allegedly dumped his fiance because she supported Lindsey Clancy? And there's a fact check and it's like fact check, false. In fact, you can't disprove it because it's an anecdote from a random guy in the internet and I said my best friend just did this. And I'm like, you didn't fact check it. They responded with, we found no clear evidence the story was true, therefore it's false. And I'm like, that's not correct. But here's the important thing. I will absolutely and I have no problem to say, yes, a man dumped his fiance two weeks after their wedding because he found out she supported Lindsey Clancy. And I can argue for a couple of reasons. People find all the time, people break up all the time and people break up for stupider reasons than that. - Oh for sure. - Like, dude didn't flush the toilet and it's like the 17th time and she's finding like, it's just how it's gonna be. I don't wanna do this. And then it escalates and then everything spills out. And it's like, well you leave the windows open and we got bugged and then you know what? I'm done, it's off. If you came out, we're like, I knew a guy who ditches fianceed because she didn't flush the toilet. It's not just the one thing that caused it. But here's the ultimate reason why I don't care about a fact check. The story doesn't move the needle. It's not gonna get someone elected. It's not gonna create policy. It doesn't matter. I'm not mad. I don't care. That's an interesting story. And I'm seeing people respond to this post or like, prove it. I'm like, who cares? - Are people really getting at you for that? - No, no, I didn't say it. - Oh, okay. - The guy who post it, people are commenting, prove it. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm sitting there being like, why? - Yeah. - Bro, if I made a video and said my friend just did a sick back flip and they're like, prove it. I'd be like, no. - I can guarantee you as a woman that, I mean, the Lindsey Clancy case is causing a lot of fights right now. If there's this-- - If there's this many women who are dying on the hill that this woman is somehow a victim, any reasonable man is gonna, especially when that might have children with her is gonna go. - No, she's a victim. I think she's a victim. - That's psychiatry. - I have big pharma. I just think she's guilty of murdering her kids. - Yeah, no, I think the system failed her and the system failed the children obviously, but I think she's guilty of murder. - Well, I don't think it failed her. I think it afflicted her. I think the pharmaceutical companies are running commercials and telling doctors to push psychoactive drugs on women, largely women, and they drug them from teenagers. And that's fair. And I respect that argument. And she deserves to go to prison or worse for what she did to those poor children. If you, listen. If you take a bunch of crazy ass pills, and then get in a car and run over a kid, you should go to prison. Yes, but it's not her fault. She was on crazy brain drugs. I don't care. She drove a car inhibited. Here's my argument. If you drive a car and run over a kid, we call that murder, vehicular homicide, whatever. If you do it on drugs, it's an aggravated charge because you're also under the influence. You get additional charges. So my argument for Lindsey Clancy is, if these ladies are right, she was a victim of big pharma. She was on all these crazy drugs. They should increase the charges. It should be a more severe penalty to commit a crime well under the influence. That being said, I don't want to wash away the fact the pharmaceutical companies in this country are evil and pump people with full of drugs and are burning our civilization of the ground to turn a profit. Yeah, and psychiatry is such a mystery too with the way that drugs interact with one another and the fact that she was in an inpatient. She wasn't even diagnosed with postpartum psychosis. She was diagnosed with postpartum major depressive episode. But she needed to be monitored over a long period of time. You can't just go and say, oh yeah, I'm not suicidal and I'm not homicidal and be let out absolutely wild. - Apparently the ad is much longer than that. - Oh. - And interesting. Okay, let me play the full, Libby just texted me. She's like, no, no, no, the full ad's longer. - Based. - Well, I can't wait to see. - Part of her hair looks crazed, by the way, in a fireball, dude, that is hot. - Oh thanks. - Like a fireball. - Take it. - Licking it. - It's not even popping up. This is so ridiculous. - Yeah. - So is this girl like the female version of Luigi Mangione? Like, she was a victim. I have empathy. It sounds like there's something related to the true crime. - I don't know, my neighbor. It's been storing stuff in her garage and she came over and I asked her about. Or she asked me about this and she's like, is on the whole Patrick did it sign. I was like, what? - No, how can you say that? - Yeah, I was just generally interested because her defense literally admitted that she, you know, did it. - The key factor in the Luigi Mangione fan stuff is thirst. - It's like sexual. - Yeah, they're thirsting after him. - Yeah. - And obviously there's the political aspect that people are like, oh, I agree with his politics. The key factor in the Lindsey Clancy stuff is lunacy. - Okay, here's the full ad. - Here's the full ad. - He drived. That's what I saw. (laughing) - Do not touch my new driver. (tires screeching) - I'm gonna get the big deal since it drives me. - Got it, no. - Got it, no, don't do it. - No. - No, no, no, no, no, no. - No, no, no, no, no. (dramatic music) (thunder rumbling) - Okay, okay, okay. - No, no, no, no. - Are you okay? - Are you okay? (dramatic music) - He's okay. - He's okay. (clicks tongue) (crashing) - It's over. He's gone. - What's happening? - What's happening? (clicks tongue) - That's the stupidest commercial I've ever seen in my life. - I understand why they cut it. - I don't understand. - They deleted it not because it was offensive because they were embarrassed. And then at the end, all of them looked confused and they were obviously mocking. That's what they call it. If you pretend to seem a certain way, I'm so angry, can you tell? They just needed one guy that looked confused and everyone else just-- - Is that a real adder? Was that somebody just-- - This is stage. It's gotta be a campaign. - Yeah, this is a campaign. - You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna, I'm gonna, Ian, we're gonna have you eat beef to offend vegans and then I'm gonna apologize for it and then more empirically-- - I'll just have a cab. - It's like-- - No, you're just gonna have a hot dog. - It's Ianino acid. - You're gonna eat a hot dog when I crave. - What's that? - Is it you're gonna eat a hot dog on camera? - It better be healthy. - And I'm gonna be like, "Oh, we took it down." - Vegan? - Because it was a-- - Not these days. - No, actually, we'll make a hot dog out of lentils to offend cattle ranchers. - Yeah, spirulina. - I'm getting my full 20 aminos in this protein. - This is stupid. - Yeah, it's a really, really dumb. I mean, it was a bad ad anyways. And that doesn't-- - It just caught it where they seemingly did. It would have been better. - It would have been funnier. Like, I'm sorry, for something like this to be good, it's gotta be more extreme. - Yeah. - Like, here's my vision for how you make this work. So, the woman goes to grab the thing and then the guy screams at the top of the-- (screams) and then he shoves her into a meat grinder. And then he grabs it and he goes, "No one touch it." And then the other guy goes, "This is ridiculous." What? And then he grabs it and he goes, "Aah!" And he starts just whacking people with it, just beating them up. - Yeah, he's just gonna bludgeon her. - Then you'd be like, "Oh, now I get it." - I thought, she's like, "Don't touch my driver." And he goes and grabs it. And then he's getting ready. And she becomes a zombie that attacks him and kills him. And she's like-- And it's like, Callaway, driver's fur-- - I'm gonna start beating her with the driver. I was a little nervous. - I think my commercial was better because it's like, you're trying to advertise a driver. You know, like-- - It's so ridiculous. - Callaway drivers are so good. Even women can play, you know? - It's good. Only if it was like old timing. - But like, I agree. And the reason why that would actually work and they won't take it down is because the sexism is the butt of the joke. The joke is they're mocking the idea. And then I'd make the commercial. And when they all got butt hurt and said it's sexist and be like, "Yes, we're mocking the sexism. It's meant to parody a sexist commercial." Like, thank you and have a nice day. - Everyone's always mad about everything. Just ban everything. No ice cream. You can't have anything. - Whoa. - No ice cream. - Whoa. - Well, that's where my head's-- - Fensive to face. - Reducing addiction. - I had ice cream today. - Really? - Oh, yeah. - Are you still fiending from the sugar? - No, I wasn't fiending from sugar. - Well, while I was in the bathroom, I was thinking-- - Psychoactive drug of sugar. - Yeah, and this is, throw back to the last story, but you should watch that if you're watching the clips. We as Americans have the world in their palm of our hands right now. If we can overcome our addictions, we're gonna be all right. - But there's so many. - As the most addiction, or at least-- - This is the most substances. - No, most people I've talked about-- - You're talking about foods here. - You use the most substances out of us. - Maybe, I don't know, but substance. It's a vague term. You know, like people-- - Yeah, now we'll get into the semantics or like way more messed up than I am. - Carrot cake. - Yeah, it's just a-- - You know the history of carrot cake? - No, but I've heard it before. The military had to get rid of carrot pulp. It had no one's gonna eat carrot pulp. And so they don't want to waste calories either 'cause carrot pulp is carrots. So they made a spice cake and then mixed the carrot pulp into it so the troops would eat it. And it's actually kind of awesome. - Cool, that's great. - Is cream cheese frosting with that? - I know, yeah. I don't know if that story's true, but again, that was one of those stories that everyone tells you, like good use of carrot pulp. - Yeah, I would still, I would put money on Ian using the most substances out of anyone here. - I'd you like a nice, fast, fasting day, though of like nothing more. - As soon as the camera turns off, Ian puts his hair back, puts on his suit jacket, he's got a British accent. - Stop telling them. - He's playing a character, guys. - He's playing my-- - He's playing a character. I thought you were for a long time. - Well, I'm playing a role. I'm playing the support role on this show. I want to heal. - No, I'm talking about a different thing. - In life? - No, I think I used to think you were like a method. - Oh, okay, so it wasn't invented, but carrot based desserts were popular during World War II because they needed to make use of carrot pulp. - Yeah. - And then, yeah. But carrot based puddings and carrot cakes had been around for a long time. - No shade on carrot cake. - Carrot cake's amazing. - It's delicious. - Oh, good. - zucchini cake is good, too. - Really? - I just had zucchini brownies, dude, they're top. - It's amazing. - Just y'all. - So, so, so. There's a, we talked about this company that does frozen cottage cheese. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, I want to get one, but it's got a terrible name. - All again? - We should remember 'cause of how bad the name was. - Yeah, it was really bad. - Rosen cottage cheese. - Roco. - Great macros on it. - Was it? - Roco. - No. - No. - No, froco was a good name, it had some stupid name. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I don't remember. - Like, like, or something. (laughing) - SPTH, LK, was that the name of it? - Smear, smear, smear case. - Yeah, that's right. - What are you doing? (laughing) - Who made that up? - Ew. - Yeah, so, um, case. - Oh, it's halfway. - That's disgusting, dude. (laughing) - I feel bad because I love the idea, it sounds amazing. Super good for your high protein. - 39 grams of protein. - I know, it's like, super high protein, good stuff. It's blended, so it's not like, like, curds. It's like ice cream. But there's, if you guys in the liquid death commercial, where they're all drinking pee. - No. - Guys, I wanna help you out with marketing. - The John auto. - I wanna help you out with marketing. The one thing you never do in marketing is create an association with your product. A negative association with your product. So, I'm gonna say this, I got a rag on club WPT. That's a world poker tour, guys. And I'm in front of some of these guys. We'll start with liquid death, where I was at. They did a campaign called Send Us Your P, where a bunch of people are marching through a field with urine and some people drink it. And they said send data centers urine because they want to offend data centers, you know, and piss them off. The commercial doesn't actually say don't do it, 'cause it's illegal to do. They later on in interview, I guess said, no, no, we don't want anyone to actually do it, but they just told people to commit crime. So here's the problem. In that commercial, it is disgusting. They're carrying bags of pee. And it's not literally, who knows what it really is, but a guy drinks it. So now, as much as I already had that beef with liquid death guy, they did change their slogan, so I don't really care, I'm over it. They did. changed it to death, I debated the CEO of liquid death because there's plastic in the cans. And he said, okay, we'll change it to death to plastic bottles, he did, he did. Respect. But I gotta say this, every time now I think of liquid death, I think of urine and the smell of public bathroom. Because they have people walking around, it starts with, I think it's Travis Kelsey, urinating in a bathroom, okay. I don't like the smell of bathrooms, and you've created a negative association with your drink, your drink with the smell and look of urine. That's bad marketing. So club WPT, poker come, poker come. They're one of the biggest poker companies. There's like two big companies WCPWPT. They took out a massive Vegas ad of a woman sitting on a toilet holding the phone playing poker, playing online. Now when people say WPT, I smell a bathroom. I smell a public urinal. You don't associate your product with these things. You don't do that. So smear case, it's one of those words that sounds dirty, but it's not like manhole. It's because of peps or penetrating. Oh, peps, man, that's what I was like, why is that? Yeah, or a lot of things that smear, that you're just like, it's a reference to bathroom stuff. It's like, ew, what did you put in the smear jar? Well, what do you think? It was a few fluids that I could have chosen. What is that name? I'm sorry guys. I got no beef with this company 'cause I love your product. I haven't tried it, but just the idea is amazing. Literally, I wish I came up with frozen cottage cheese. It's brilliant. High protein, low sugar, frozen dessert. It was rebranded. What they called it smear case. I want to try it. Why couldn't they just call it froco? Why couldn't they just say froco? Cottage chill, you know what I'm saying? No, that's awesome. Cool name. That's brilliant. We should do it. Yeah, we should. Cottage chill, bro. That's amazing. We got to launch that now. I got to tell Mark, we need to come up with cottage. I would love to buy this. Strawberry, peanut butter, and chocolate sounds absolutely vanilla. You can get it at, what was it? Oak a Joe froco. Been like Leesburg or something. Yeah, we looked it up it. I think it was far away though. It was like a whole foods or something like that. Next time we go down there for Korean barbecue, we should stop and grab one of these smear cases. And you could do cottage chill for dinner, like because cottage cheese is sweet and savory. It works with both. So if you mix it with like a meat, it might be a good dinner, like a protein bowl that you could eat. Good smear it on it. But I don't know if you could, what's, you could just smear it all over yourself. I don't know if you would market it as both sweet if you could hold on. I just, I just, I'm sorry, name it. I just asked GPC, GPC, is smear case possibly the worst name for a product ever? And it's said by modern English standards, smear case is an astonishingly bad name for a food. The funny part is that it didn't originally sound disgusting. It's from from Pennsylvania and Dutch for smear case. It means the spread or smear cheese. It means spreadable cheese. What's the case like casing? I think, I don't know the word, a smear case is cheese. Oh, okay. Oh, it's, it's, it's, they, they made a derivative of spread cheese to smear case. Because smear case is Pennsylvania and Dutch. No one knows that. Yeah, that's not going to work. We're modern English speaker with no context. Smear case sounds less like a dessert and more like something a dermatologist would diagnose. (laughs) Would you like a slice of our homemade smear case? Is an absolutely catastrophic sales pitch? Oh, but you made it at home? All right, we're launching cottage chill. Let's go. It's branded, it's done. You heard it. The trademark is ours. We are officially using it. And I've already instructed Mark to become the process. Now I'm not going to give away all the ingredients, but a nice coconut sugar or maple syrup. You're going to do a light honey. I'm in. You'll light honey. So warm the honey up so it dissolves easier. Well, yeah, you blend it. And then what happens is you're going to have about 10 carbs per serving. It's not very sweet, but it's going to taste good and be healthy. And you know what I can't stand? I make my, I make homemade ice cream. It's not hard to do. You use a couple different things. You can do sweetened condensed milk, some heavy cream and just mix it up. But you don't got to use sweetened condensed milk. I'll just whip cream and I'll use a couple of egg yolks. And I put like one teaspoon or tablespoon of maple syrup in it. Barely sweet at all. It doesn't need it. Especially when you put strawberries in it. When I can't stand as you buy ice cream and it's like 50 carbs per serving, then it doesn't need to have all that sugar in it. You can always add sugar. You can't take it out though. Once the man had the same as salt. We got to grab your rants and chats. So smash that like button, share the show. Don't forget, we're going to the uncensored portion of the show in a few minutes. Let's grab what you guys have to say. I can't read the first rumble rant because someone rated the stream. So it'll take about a minute or two for that weird little pop-up to disappear. Occam's aftershave says, I'm Irish. We invented Halloween. Some hind, as I say it. The kid's costume resembles my hometown's football kit, Gallic and soccer. Our nickname was the Flintstone so we can appropriate American culture too. Perfect. McBeafrod says, "Space King Episode 5 comes out this Saturday. It's made on Flash Gets on YouTube. Their show is made with love and autism. Praise be, Space King." Did you guys see the Mary Sue CGI that dude's making? That's going to start to go viral. Alan posted it. I want to show this, we're there, we're there. I said it was going to be a year or two and I can't believe how fast AI is developing. This dude made a 10 minute short film CGI on the style of Disney and Pixar and it probably took a half hour to an hour to do. To be fair, he maybe worked a little harder on that to refine it. But the one that I watched part four, Mary Sue, it's an evil villain, Sarah Fina. She has fire powers. Elden the wizard and Braum, the heroic man and Mary Sue are trying to stop her. She's charging the ember heart in the forge. Once every thousand years she has to charge the ember heart to restore her powers and they try to stop her. But Mary Sue thinks she's just misunderstood. So right at their greatest moment when they're about to win, she gives the villain. She says, "You don't know her story. She's probably not evil at all." And then the guy's like, "She burned on an orphanage." And she's like, "Well, but you're not looking at her. You're looking at what she's done." He's like, "Exactly." So she gives them the, she gives the, which, the necklace back. She comes back to life and full power. Kills the guy instantly and then, or he shouldn't kill him, she nearly kills him. And, but this guy made this film and AI, it's insane. - What do you think? - What AI did he use? - Probably sea dance. When I don't know for sure. - What do you think he spent monetarily on being able to? - Ten minutes. It might have cost him a couple thousand dollars. - To generate 10 minutes worth. - Yeah, I'm gonna show you guys in the uncensored portion of the show. 'Cause I don't know if you guys saw the fake, the podcast thing I posted with a woman turn into pigs. - I saw it. - A screenshot. 'Cause I was just, I've got a bunch of these things I've been goofing off with. And some of them don't work. Like they speak gibberish. For some reason, one of the podcast hosts is Bob Odenkirk. It is. And he's speaking gibberish. It's like he's saying not real words. And, but one of them's really funny where they turn into chickens. So I'll show you how, C-dance is just, it's nuts. 30 second. We'll render one in real time and I'll show you just how insane it is. I would say this. It takes, it's eight dollars for 30 seconds. The problem is you have no guarantee what comes out is actually what you asked. So does take a decent amount of work. I would argue that each 30 seconds scene using references from each other to re-render the next one. You could probably, it's gonna cost you eight dollars per 30 seconds, but let's say you try three or four times. So let's just say it's about $30. So 60 bucks per minute. So $600 for a 10 minute short film. - That's a concern about that. - Now hold on. I don't think so. I think that's actually. - You can get it in four takes. I had a hard time with check. - Yes, with C-dance, absolutely. Because you use image references. You put an image and say, from this image, have them do this. And so let's set the range at sometimes a single take works. But it's more likely to be two or three. And on the worst case scenario could be five or six. So let's put it in, let's put it on four, right? So let's just say 600 bucks for 10 minutes. Let's say you wanna do 100 minutes, right? That's a good time for a feature length. $6,000 for a feature length CGI movie like Disney or Pixar. - And you can ask some of that. - One person could do it over a weekend. - They could outsource the opportunity to 10,000 people on the internet and fund it. And everyone would get, they get to sign up early, they get their credits, Paramount funds it. And then one of those scripts is gonna kick and then Paramount owns it. - Alhefe Lopez, as I think I watched Connor McGregor beat the ish out of Jack Jillin Hall last night with that driver, Jake Jillin Hall. That movie was awesome. - I don't know what it is. - Roadhouse with Jake Jillin Hall and Connor McGregor. - Oh, that was so good. - That was so good. - Their fight scene. I love that movie. - I was so good. - That was the original back in the day. - Watch the Jake Jillin Hall, one. It's funny. - Is it worth it? - Yeah, like Jake Jillin Hall is a retired. I'm a May fighter and he shows up. And it's just, it's so good. - He's amazing. - It's got, like the opening scene at the bar is real great. He's like, is there a hospital around here? And they're like, what is there a hospital nearby? They're like, what are you talking about? And it's like, do you have insurance? It's good, it's good. I love it. That movie was great. Do you have insurance? What? (laughs) It's like, I don't want to, I don't want to enjoy you too much. All right, we'll grab a couple more here. Oh, let's see. TM Howard says, "The script was the driver takes over your body and makes you go crazy." Right. - They needed a visual reference though because it was too, it was too small in the final product. - Scorsese would agree with me. - And Howard also said, as a golf fan and a good, good fan, the ad sucked, but the video show was not the full ad, which I think is why this got circulated so much. Most people just saw the, a small clip of it. Right, the guy just hits the woman. I don't touch much stuff. (laughs) All right. Uh, Pete, the penguin says, look up the adventures of handyman on in living color. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. So good handyman handyman. Was that one racist? He had, uh, no, no, but it's definitely. It's Damon Wants. It's really funny. He's handicapped. It was what. Oh, yes. All right, everybody, what are the uncensored portion of the show? And we're gonna watch a naughty videos made by artificial intelligence. Smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Kess. Naomi, do you want to shout anything out? Um, you can follow me on X and Naomi Eps Best. Um, exciting stuff to come. Gonna be doing some writing and talking. So thanks for letting me hang out right on. If all me Ian Croslin and check out this new shirt, this, I believe this is on. Is this on Tim Kess? Uh, is this Tim Kess merch? I think so. I gave it to you. Check out your new shirt, but I think we're selling this. I just don't have a. Well, do you have yours, Phil? It's at home getting, uh, the wash so I can wear it. Check it out. If you haven't been over there to Casper, I'm not sure if it's a Casper product or Tim Kess product, but you born in 1979. I was. Okay. Well, that's not as well in a live and we'll continue to be so I hope you like the hexagons. See you later. Uh, it probably is. I don't see it right now. Okay. I'll double check. I'll be back on Friday. Ian's betrayal. So the comic, the treatment for Ian's betrayal, the story about Ian becomes a red coat is, uh, is it's, it's getting done. That'd be a fine way to see it. Um, a fun sea dance thing. We're going to make comic books. And we've got, we've already got like three books planned. The treatments for the Ian's betrayal story. The first Ian betrays the, uh, the minute men during the war for independence. And then the next one is he comes back as a zombie or a lich, you know, anyway, which king boys. I am Philip remains on Twix. Uh, you can check out my patreon patreon.com slash Philip remains. Uh, you can check out the band. All that remains at Apple music and Amazon music Pandora YouTube Spotify or Deezer. So don't forget the left lane is for crime. Carter. I'm Carter Banks. Whoa. My camera was shaking there for a second. I'm Carter Banks. You can follow me at Carter Banks on acts at Carter Banks official on Instagram and check out our record label at trash house records on YouTube. Uh, yeah. Let's get into the after show and watch inappropriate stuff. All right. We will see you all over at rumble.com slash Tim Kest I R L right now. Thanks for hanging out. You [BLANK_AUDIO]