WNBA Defines “Woman,” America's Farmer Crisis, & Bibi Rejects Gaza Peace Plan | PBD Podcast #841

[MUSIC] >> Adam, what's your damage? >> The future looks bright. >> That's it. >> And Jacob is better than anything I ever saw. >> Right here. >> You are one of one. >> I send you right here. >> I think I'm going to serve this for you. [MUSIC] >> That little pass. >> Right off the bat. Go ahead, man. You want to tell us about that? >> Yes. >> You were saying tough guys. >> Basically, it's just a heat rash. >> Okay. All right. So, gang. Hope you had a good weekend. We got some crazy stories to go through. Some people this weekend thought it was a good idea to freeze their eggs. Because maybe that's their way of showing commitment. Like how serious are you? >> Yeah. >> Are you a game? Are you down? >> Yeah. >> The one for office in 2028 or no. >> Yeah. >> She said yes. That she's freezing her eggs. >> AOC. >> AOC. Got her red back. >> She was asked. She was asked about being part of the DSA nationally or New York. And her answer was given. And then you had other people from the DSA kind of given their vision of what's going on. And the DSA is their MAGA. You know, and some people, you're got free, Zacarya would say that their problem is going to be. They're going to do well on primary. But to go win, they got to win independence. Are they going to get independence or now we'll talk about that. WNBA folks, honestly, this poor girl does a regular foul. So what she misses and almost breaks Sofia Cunningham's neck. It's white privilege. >> It's it. >> It's you know when she tweeted it. And then shout out to Royce. >> Royce White. >> Royce White and his canter who posted the video that went berserk. >> Oh yeah, everywhere. >> If Royce is great for a million views that went all over the place announcing that they're willing to get into it. >> Do you imagine how embarrassing it is? By the way, two or three weeks ago, that's right. Two or three weeks ago, I said this is all on the top of the company on WNBA. They need to take responsibility and stop the discussion so the guys can play. WNBA actually called a meeting to address the definition of women. Can you imagine how embarrassing it is that you don't know where by the way. >> We're going to see what's going to happen. >> WNBA leadership or is this on Adam Silver? >> Because he's the ball. >> Adam Silver needs to make the ball. >> He's the ball. >> He's the ball. >> Get it over with. But multiple people said Adam talked to the, and nothing went up. >> And then Caitlin Clark got a technical foul, you know, simply by running into it. She was going to get the suspension. They rescinded it, obviously. But the same referee, the African-American referee, another black girl player pushed her. Never gave her a technical. Of course, it's white privilege. >> 100%. >> We'll talk about that. >> I've never done nothing. >> Iran, you know, you got some stuff that's going to, if you guys wanted to know, who does the most inappropriate jokes, 10 to 1? >> I love it. >> It's not even close. I know people think it's others. Tom leads the league in inappropriate jokes. We have to kind of hold it back. >> He's in the Hall of Fame. >> He is in the Hall of Fame at this point. Iran, we got to talk about something with Iran on the issues going back and forth. And how they're being impacted by it. >> I don't touch on that and I'm losing. >> What happened? Don't touch what? >> Don't touch that chord because I lost you guys. >> So Iran, you know, they had some things that happened this weekend and Netanyahu rejected the board of Peace 15 point peace plan until Hamas truly disarmed. You know, it's a weird stat that came out. From Pew, Pew is like Gallup. You trust Pew. Pew doesn't play games. And look what it says, Vinny. Nearly half of Muslim Americans have a favorable view of Hamas. Okay, Hamas. So we'll see. I mean, this is, this is, we're not talking about anything but American Muslims. So we'll get into that. We'll talk about that. Texas experiments, raw capitalism, they're dominating the marketplace with companies moving over there. You know, the Idaho shooting that happened last weekend in and out. A video came out. And it was edited in such a perfect way. I want all of them. I want all of us to watch it together to see what happened and ask yourself how you react to this because of what this guy last week did in Idaho and then eventually killed himself. We'll talk about, I want you to see this video and they don't show the shooting. They don't show the way it's edited so perfectly done that you get to see all of it, see what could have been done differently to prevent this. I think it's important for us to talk about. Americans got the biggest raises in the last five, six years and it's still not making a big difference. Bill Marr said what the president is doing is socialism and Bill Marr may be right. I actually don't like what the president is doing in this one specific area because what it's doing is you're taking the argument away from what socialists are going to do when they take on office and they're going to say your favorite president trumped this. So what's wrong with us doing it now? What we'll get into that. It's important to talk about that. I think we're flirting with the idea. We're flirting with the idea of accepting socialism and not even knowing that we're doing it. So we'll talk about that a little bit. Flat cameras. I don't know if you're for it or not. You know, these flat cameras are everywhere now. They're talking about wanting to use 350,000 Uber. You know, lift drivers to track what's going on. There's some very strange stories with flocking. It's probably one of the most hated companies in America right now of what they're doing with the surveillance. My favorite story here. That's a tough one to read that we have to address because these are our heroes. Farmers are filing bankruptcy and suicide at a rate we've never seen before. Every day, 41 farmers go bankrupt every single day. 41 farmers go bankrupt on a daily basis. It's a scary thought, and then one last story I got here is the Iran president. Check this out. Imagine you're the president of Iran. Okay? You're only allowed to speak to the missing Supreme Leader in a dark car meeting. So what does that tell you? So you got to go in a car that's dark to talk to Mochabah in a to the Supreme Leader and you're the president. What is going on over there? We got to address that. And maybe if we got a chance to get into a couple of these other stories, we will do that as well. But would that be in said gang? Vault conference. I think the last couple of days were ridiculous ticket selling days on the side. Some of these things are scary. Yeah, it was crazy the last couple of days with what's happening. You know, everybody typically likes to wait to last minute to get their game tickets. I got my, you know, World Cup ticket. I think the day off or the week before going to the World Cup. But if you haven't yet made the decision and you're there, this is the time to do it. I got, I got a message here from Logan Paul. He sent his message to us about the vault conference. I want you to hear from this. Here is Logan Paul. This will be our first official sit down that we have to get out the vault conference. Go for it. What's up? It's Logan Paul. You might know me for my videos on Vine or YouTube. My podcast and Paulsive, maybe WWE. Some of my businesses like Prime Hydration or Lunchley. But I am excited to see you at the vault conference in Las Vegas. 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Depending on the age they're at, there's going to be a lot of great topics to discuss. Going through 296 page manual for some of you guys that are CEOs. And you want to be in a room being able to ask questions of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos as a lawyer, Alex Spiro. He will be in the CEO session this year to discuss how you went from zero to nearly a half a billion out of law from being the most powerful lawyer in America today in his early 40s. Go to vault 2026.com again vault 2026.com get your tickets. There's also an opportunity by five pack looking forward to seeing you guys are August 31st through September 3rd. With that being said, let's get right into it. The first story I never thought the first story or PVD podcast would be a WNBA story. I never thought that, but they're blown up. So imagine if all of these things and his cancer comes out saying he's announcing that he's going to the WNBA. And you know, he kind of did one of those things that I want to take my talents to the WNBA. He makes this video. He texts me. He's like, Pat, check this out. Funny as hell. Go and play this clip. You know, he's ready for it. You know, he does this. After careful consideration, I'll reveal the current eligibility guidelines. I am officially declaring myself a WNBA prospect. If simply declaring who you are is all that's required that I meet every single requirement necessary to compete in the WNBA. You can pause right here. So he does this. By the way, can you show how many views this got? I think it's very important to say, imagine you make a clip. How much of a reason why video goes viral has to do with the content? How much does it have to do with the timing of it? You ready? This video got 254,000 likes. And it got 48 million views. 16,000 comments in a span of couple days, day and a half, right? That he-- [BLANK_AUDIO] Royce is a Royce Royce. We had him on the board. You have to play the video. He plays. Did you see his video? Play play Royce. Oh, please make sure you do the right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Play the one reason a wig. I think Alex Jones. This is it or he's in a wig. He's got guys. He's transitioning. Let's back up. Let's add on. Let him live. Don't want to make fun of us. Let's see the video in the way. Find it. Put the one. They're going to find it. Anyway, so he posted up. It's in that he's also going and eventually right afterwards. Is this the one? It's right afterward. Yeah, he's so ugly as a right afterwards. Guess what gets in WMBA. Leadership announces. They're having an emergency meeting to discuss what they're going to be doing with the WNWMBA. We have to identify what it is. Literally, they put a task force together to discuss the growing drama. Around transgender athletes because they got humiliated. They got humiliated by not taking a position. All they have to do is viny. Make a position at the top to say where they stand and it would have been done with but every single time you're hearing. Caitlin Clark and interviews like, can we just talk basketball? Can we just talk basketball? And then while this is going on, so if you're kind of gamm, if I'm saying her name correctly, so if you kind of gamm, she's going in for a layup. And I want you to see this guys. Okay. Watch this. You're boom. Obviously, she did the girl face. Yeah, in the face. She's going for the ball. That's an innocent foul. Some people call this a flagrant too. She got kicked out of the game. The most impressive thing about this foul is the following. Let it go for two more seconds. Guess what? Sophie makes the shot. Oh, good. That's an M1 maybe forget the fact that she make that's the most important thing. She makes the flipping and one and one. And so she gets up, goes in her face. And then what is the girl tweet right afterwards? She tweets right afterwards that this foul. You ready for this. She tweets. It's white privilege in the Anna fever. No doubt white privilege on what's going on here. So. Adam, I'll come to you first because I knew you're a big fan of WMBA. So for you, what do you think got them to the point of saying we have to have this conversation. And do you actually believe the WMBA is going to come out and do the same thing that the WTA did. The World Tennis Association. I believe it is for women. The woman's. They came out and they said they're testing. If you're a male or a female, they're testing. Oh, yeah, I saw that. Well, you think they're going to come out and do the same thing that WTA did. Well, they do think they will go that far. The WMBA is in a big pickle here. You think they damned if you don't like him. But if you don't, they're not a pickle. You know, you know, that on that on that foul was Sophie cutting him. You know, they say pickle. I went right there, Pat. I went right there. You know, they say, you do a hard foul. It's a technical foul. What do they say? Tie them up. Tie them up. Tie them up. Tie them up. The whole WMBA is getting teed up right now with the trance. I think they got tea everywhere. They don't know what to do when you have owners and coaches fighting against their own level headed players, basically saying trans kids matters more than you women in the WMBA. We got a problem. So again, listen, you said you got a problem. That wasn't a question. The question is, do you think they're going to make the right decision with all the backlash they're getting? Do you think they're going to be forced to make if they, if you got NBA players like Michael Porter Jr. and Launzebottle, like, what the hell? So these are guys that supposed to be favoring WMBA. They're saying, you know how embarrassing it is at that point? They're getting a smith like saying, what are you doing? And by the way, you saw this interview here. This is interview. This is Caitlin Clark's coach. She's calling the foul on Sophie Cunningham. I maybe take it away. No, no, yeah, guys, think about this. If you're a player and you're busing your butt, would you want to back you up? You're, you got to watch us because the coach is compromised. She's been this bugged. This is from last week. Remember where she's like, I can't tell what's a guy or a guy like he never been trained. I see a penis. How do I know it's real or not? This is the head coach after the foul. It's taken up for the other girl. She's a less than half of herself. Play this clip. Play this clip. And I'm going to give you another. And I just want you to when she's speaking. Just focus on Caitlin Clark. When she's given her answer, saying, I don't think that was intentional defending the girl that hit Sophie in a face and said, why privilege? Watch this. Go for it. One of the things about me is that she's going to play her butt off. Man, she's going to walk in for a layup. And so I'm not, I don't oppose the hard foul. But I also don't think that she intentionally went for the net. One of the things about it is that she's going to play her butt off. If you're my head coach, if you are the captain of this ship, so to speak, and that is your freaking attitude after my head almost got taken off. And this shit, can you guys, can you imagine if the roles were reversed? I, this is the simplest way to think about it. If a white girl, clothesline the black chick, goes in the locker room, and the first thing she tweets is black privilege. Forget about it. March is right. It's over. It's over. And you know, it drives me crazy about this WNBA thing, but I feel like Michael Coleon and Godfather three when he's trying to gather mafia. Every time I think I'm out, he pulled me back in. And it's just again, this is the, they're causing more problems. The juice isn't worth the freaking squeeze enough of it already. Has nothing to do with it. They don't want us to go there and kind of throw bad. They can't get out of their freaking way. It's a failing company. And when you get it, not to Vinnie. This is the thing that I was in losing enterprises are now being valued at a billion guys. Just think as much as we want to take shots at them. Tell me how many times we've talked about the WNBA last four weeks. Yeah. Every week. They're winning. Yeah. Well, no, no, they're winning because they're going to adjust. They're going to adjust. And as long as the Sophie Cunningham and the Caitlin Clarks are there, the conservatives are going to defend them. This is not going away. Millions of fathers have girls. There's millions of young girls. I want to play basketball one day. Millions of them. This is not. We can see the number like take shots and let me tell you these guys are dumb and stupid and all this. They're going to sit there and just be cash in the checks behind closed doors. Well, here's my as long as they get this right. But here's my question. I don't think they're going to get it right. My honest opinion. But number two. Are they? Hold on. Is this going to translate to butts in seats? No, yeah, because the thing who's going to these games? I don't. Guys, it. Oh my god. Guys, the attendance is up. Ever since Caitlin Clark, Clark came in. Well, they're selling tickets. They're selling tickets. You can you can sit there. And because just because you like the other day, you know how Tiko's right now obsessed with what's this show this? Gaji. Jujujujujujujujujujujujujujujujujujujujujujujujujujuju guys. I sit. I watch one episode for I'm going to get so much hate for this. I said and I watch one episode and I was like, do you know this is the guy he's got staples on his forehead? And this is how he gets to put his brain into your brain to get all the power that you have. What's the name of that guy, Jake? I'm sure you know what that guy's name is. So, okay. I'm impressed. Okay. So I'm sitting. I'm like, who would be impressed? Who would be interested in some like this? Vinnie, then I go click it on YouTube millions on top of millions of views of people that are interested in something you and I would never watch. Millions of people under trust me. The WNBA is not going away. Their business. Look at his attendance from 6615 average to 90807 in 2024 after Caitlin Clark comes in up 48% then 11,000 then 11,000. No, this games chain. Can you put me the highest and the lowest valuation of WNBA teams? Highest and the lowest valuation of WNBA teams. So while you're doing this, Tom, I'll come to you to get some some of your thoughts. I want to play you guys a couple of other clips and I will move on from the story. Go ahead. Look at that. Look at that. Vinnie. The Golden State Valkyries are worth $850 million. Vinnie, the average valuation is 427 million. Can you do me a favor? Ask the question. The average valuation in 2020 six years ago. Go back to 2020. So what's the high right now 850 280 427 right? Just remember that 850 280 427. This is six years ago. If we go six years ago, what are you looking at with the numbers? The owners are sitting there saying, I am loving this. Look, look at that. Vinnie in 2020. $10 to 20 million dollars. Are you following me or no? Oh, yeah. In 2020, as far as the full version WN France, give me 200. Not 20. In 2020 was 10 to 20 million. Vinnie, let me say this to you one more time. The average teams valuation in 2020 was 10 to 20 million dollars. The average valuation right now is 427 million dollars. Do you know what it's done? 20 to 40 X in your investment. By the way, you know what's better than that kind of authority. You know what? No, no. Okay, you're joking. Do me a favor. Can you go and say? Do me a favor and ask if a person had $10 million to put into WNBA team in 2020 versus Bitcoin. What outperforms what? Just watch how embarrassing this is as much as we want to laugh at the WNBA. Caitlin Clark has turned a bunch of people into billionaires. People don't realize this. All it took was a straight white girl who likes dudes to enter a black lesbian league and she dominates them and everybody hates her for that. She just wants to play the game. She doesn't want to talk politics. She took a picture with Obama. She doesn't want to be seen as a Republican. She doesn't want to see as a Democrat. She just wants to play ball. Look at the return here. Let me show you this when you watch this. Go back up. All you have to do is go back up. They're right there. No, the sentence is right there. Right there. Bitcoin has nine X, Vinnie, you 42 and a half X. If you own the WNB team, no matter how much shit people are talking, they're making these guys so much money. It ain't even funny how much I'm rapping right now. Yeah, money, money, money, money, get your stuff a WNB 18, gonna make it that green to Tom first of all, Vinnie, you're speaking pure logic about the coach. That is not a coach. She carries the title of coach, but she's a spokesman for the culture and the DEI standards of the WNBA. And she does not support her players. She supports that. So that's what's going on. You do not have coaches, defending players the way you think you have. So here's the four choices they have. I all weekend, I looked at it and I synthesize it. Number one, they reject cancer and they rejected two guys as a, that's a PR stunt. They reject them. What happens? The heat and everything in the PR war and everything that's going on continues. So number one, reject them. The war continues. Number two, you establish a trans standard. You have to have transition surgery, your hormones can't be this. There are trans standards that are out there. There's still not creating fairness between men and women competing, but there are trans standards. So they created trans standards and then say, now we're trying to make it fair and you guys don't qualify as trans standards. The third thing is a define eligibility by biological sex and therefore reject them as males. And then you have the LGBT community and everybody that's inside the WNBA goes nuts. Or number four, you actually accept both and somebody's going to get hurt on the court or or it's just going to be raw mayhem. I think what's about to happen pat. They have to create a trans standard, but then you're going to have some guys that are in transition, but they're six seven six 10 that are bigger and stronger even post transition playing with these because I do not believe pat what's inside the WNBA. I think they can go to a biological test like that tennis they have to do it. Tom, they have to do that. Pat think about the culture and everything. Let me tell you let me tell you let me tell you what's the bigger concern. Here's a bigger concern. You know what the bigger concern is. Do you remember that video Brittany Griner in her backyard shooting the basketball without a shirt on everybody was like, oh, that looks like a guy. Yeah, it was a certain if they do that as the following. Here's a question for you. How many current players in the WNBA. Do you actually think we're born a man. That's the question part of me. Let me ask the question one more time. How many current WNBA player. What do you think are the likelihood that currently the WNBA has players that were born a male. How many today. I think there's a hundred percent chance that there's more than just Brittany gunner. Okay, so what do you think? Griner. I don't know. I don't know if Brittany was born a man. I mean certainly looks, but the percentage here's all you have to answer. It's not zero. Maybe. So what do you think it is? What do you think is the percentage that there's a player in the WNBA today that was born a man. Can you run zero? By the way, can you do me favor anybody? If you're putting like super chats, I'll read it off. I know right now I got a super chat from a guy that's defending Sophie Cunningham. I actually want to know if I'm alone in this somebody posted a super chat talking about how what's her name was right. Sophie Cunningham was right. But to me, it is a real thing. What percentage. Chance that there is a current male player in the WNBA. Two percent. You think you're at two percent. Where are you at? I'm a hundred percent. Wow. What do you mean? There is I believe there is a one hundred. Oh my. I'm not going to I'm not going to go deep analysis. I believe there's a two D 100% chance. Okay. That there is at least one player. Okay. In the NBA. I mean, check this out. Born a man. Audiences are putting two percent 85% DR B Miller less than one percent is a queen BC power. You got a bunch of people between one percent zero percent. Sharni wing eighties seven hundred two to five percent. You got a Chevy good and zero percent. You got a bunch of people saying, you know, all these other things. Okay. Where are you at? What's your percentage that there's a male? Yeah. Maybe ten percent. Okay. Do you realize the problem then becomes the following? If they say no, I'm willing to bet the reason why they're not going to do it today is because there's a male player in the WNBA. They already have a Trojan horse in there. They know if they do that the level of hypocrisy. Yeah. That's going to show up will be such a if they thought they were getting a mass of PR hit. It's going to be ten times bigger. But if they say yes, they deserve the respect that they're going to get to stand on their position and say, here's what we are. Move on. If that story gets exposed that the WNBA currently has a male player do not be surprised. The moment they announced is that less than five people could the WNBA and get out and they do what what's that guy that got on his kneel did. Kaepernick or Colin Kaepernick. That did they get underneath. I foresee something like that taking place. And I want to get to the next story. I want you to watch this year, by the way. I want you to watch this year. This is Dana White. Zoom out so I can read the description. This is Dana White. He's being asked which ones Dana White is he's being asked why they don't have ring girls in the UK. Listen to the answer. You will be shocked why he cannot have ring girls ring boys. Listen to me ring girls in the cook. Go ahead. We're the card girls. Don't even get me started. Watch this. I don't know what round we're in the UK. The UK won't use ring card girls unless you have ring card boys. Wait, what? Did you understand? This is a zoo full boxing. Listen what she has. I want to see a ring card boy. The fuck is that? You know who that is? Of course. She covers up a spot boxing. She's great. She's phenomenal. Her and Armand do their thing and their phenomenon. The boyfriend always shoots everything. The shirt is ripped in the middle. This is the boyfriend is Armand? No, no, no. Her boyfriend is the camera guy that shoots everything. By the way, her and Armand, when they make the videos, the chemistry they have, it's like, you know, they're phenomenal. Your name is Nina, right? I think I think she's phenomenal. But but look at the madness in UK. You got a freaking fight taking place under UK saying you can't have ring card girls unless if you have ring card boys. Look at absurd. I mean absurd is an understatement. That's double dumb. It's stupid. What do you want to do? Who wants to look at boys? Walk around. Be like second round. And by the way, by the way, it's not a being who wants to see boys. Believe it or not. There's a lot of people that want to see boys. But the question is hang on a second. There is a question of the audience that goes to the UFC. Do they want to see boys? Hell to the know they're going to see guys fight. They're going to see guys fight and they want to see. I don't even want to see girls fight. But they do that. I want to see them being ring for question. No, hang on a second. Yeah. Is the you please don't defend the ring. No, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm defending. It's close. A private company's right to conduct itself. Yeah. Okay. So suddenly you can't have ring card girls at an event by the UFC. Produced by UFC sold tickets by UFC in which they rented an arena from an owner with this shows you. Guess what? If the government gets into close, you lose the ability to operate as an independent business. You are seeing in the UK what we don't want to have in the United States. So check this out. Check this out. Connor. I don't know what the WMBS is. Can you show the poll to the audience? So we ran a poll. What are the odds that there's at least one biological male currently in the WMBA? Okay. Look at the poll. What it comes on the bottom bottom right. Do you see it? If you look at the poll. Yeah. Yeah. 0% say 18% 10% 20% 50% 22% 39% believe there's 100% chance that there's at least one male. I'm going to ask this question on X right now to see what yes. Oh my goodness. This is such a crazy thing that's going on with 100% 50% the audience believe there's 100% chance somebody's in the WMBA. That's a male. Anyways, let me continue with this. This madness with WMBA male UK. They have lost their shit. I think this will be one of the things in 2028. That's still the Democrats are going to get wrong because they're not giving this up. They're not giving this up. They don't realize there's plenty of Democrats who are pro choice Democrats. Who are John F. Kennedy Democrats who have daughters who don't want men to compete with them and they're going to lose that base to the independent mothers who're going to say I cannot believe you're forcing me to do this. I'm going to vote Republican. They're going to lose in this area and they still don't get it. They still don't get it. I'll say one thing. Connor who's one of the smartest guys here called it WNBS. That's what's called the Freudian slip. The BS thing right there where I agree with you, sir, real quick from a revenue standpoint. I get it. They're getting eyeballs. They're making money. They're putting butts in seats. But not all eyeballs are the same. They're getting the kind of freak show circus act eyeballs, but the revenue is increasing. My concern for the WMBA, which they have already lost them years ago, is their reputation. Nobody takes it. these people seriously at this point. If you want to be known as playing basketball, that ship is sailed. It's now basically a LGBT trans league and, you know, we're living in a woman's world and power to the people. - You've been supporting them for years on this podcast. How many times? - Oh, wait, sorry. - Sorry. - After all these meetings, do you-- - I've been saying this for years. - After all these meetings, I know you want to move on. Do you think because of this whole thing and this whole tent, LGBTQ, that they're going to say, okay, fine. If you're genuinely a trend, we'll let you play. If you're a dude that identifies and you're legitimate, not like the guys that play. - Where do you draw the lines, Benny? That's the hope. - No one. - My question is this, are you pre-trans? Are you post-trans? - That's what I'm saying. - Did you cut it off? Did you not cut it off? - Are they going to do it though? - You have a wig, do you really identify? - My question is, do they-- - It's such a slippery slope. - Do they say yes. - That you cannot win this. - Do they bend the needle? - Do they say yes? - Do they say yes? - You win stupid prizes. - You still have an answer. - And they got the gold medal right now. You said it correctly, you said they have a pickle, or they're in a pickle. I think they're the heroes of what we have in America that don't get enough credit and this story breaks my heart and I think we need to bring more attention to it on what these guys are going through, farmers, page 15 if you want to go to it. So, Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one first, the blaze. Great job on the blaze writing this article, America's losing its farmers to bankruptcy and suicide, okay? America's losing its farmers to bankruptcy and suicide. So American farmers face crushing debt with total farm debt projected to it $624.7 billion of debt. And chapter 12 bankruptcies rising 46% last year to over 315 cases, a new John Deere combined can cost $1 million in farmers gamble ancestral property and diesel prices and ray fall every spring for too many farmers crushing debt becomes a debt sentence. CDC data shows farmers take their own lives in a rate of, ready? Three and a half times higher than the national average. Let me read that to you one more time. According to the CDC data, farmers take their own life suicide at a rate of three and a half times higher than the national average at 43.2% per 100,000 farm workers. America lost 15,000 individual farm operations in 2025 at an average of 41 a day. The average farm owner is 58 years old and many farm kids watch their fathers battle debt and despair before walking away from the family business to USDA found the only growing farm category as those with annual sales of a million plus or more while half of American farm land is now operated by farms with sales of at least $500,000, a country that destroys its independent producers, surrenders its national independence to foreign supply chains and corporate conglomerates, conservative ideals depend on preserving private property rights and local community ownership. And food security depends on those who begin, work at sunrise and end long after it has set urgent action is needed before the damage becomes irreversible. Tom, thoughts. I have a lot of thoughts on this and one of the thoughts that I've always had is in terms of corporate welfare, you know, corporate welfare is any corporate welfare? Yeah, that's a theorist government giving like permanent subsidies or permanent price. Our company's too big to fail, we're going to give you, you know, tarp, money, all this stuff. But what you find out is Monsanto and Archer Daniels, Midland, never heard of ADM, Archer Daniels Monsanto says that's something they put on the crops and. Correct. Well, Monsanto and ADM make the chemicals that go after insects and a lot of other things they make where that's genetically modified seeds and things. They've been receiving subsidies forever and they've always one of the top two that's ever then bare ADM and it's just amazing the amount of money that goes to them. But then they turn around and sell these things full price to the farmers and the farmers are trying to run it. The number one thing that freaks me out is that the average farmer is 58 and the only farmers that are making money are those with sales of a million or more, which means the factory farms and the big ones are the ones that are still there who can deliver. It means distribution and farming is kind of goes away. You should have distributors where you grow apples, I grow apples, Adam grows apples. We ship our apples to Pat, Pat is the largest apple distributor in the United States. He ships them to the markets and then we, he pays us the going rate for wholesale apples. What happens is you're losing distribution and you're losing independent business people. 58 year old and rising, no one's getting in business to be a farmer and I'd like to know Pat what RFK thinks about this because what it means is the only thing that's going to be left, good luck finding organic because the only thing that's going to be left is the factory farm and genetically modified food that they can grow in big bulk at low cost and ship at the Costco. That's where we're heading and because it's the small farmers that are, that are making the organic stuff and somebody's going to say, no, that's not true. There are big ones. Yeah, there are, but go look at the number of small farmers that care that are making, you know, organic, organic crops and so this is sad because what it means is we're heading to Pat permanent factory farming and you've got people like ADM and Monsanto that are getting all these subsidies and then the independent farmers aren't. So I think that there's, we've had too big to fail, but in American farmers, I think that there's such a thing as too important to fail, but I don't know where to start because do you use then subsidize the farmer with tax dollars or do you let the market work? But in this case, it just, it sickens me. I agree with Matam on a corporate basis and too big to fail. I want to focus on something that is really underplayed in a, in society today and that's male depression and male suicide rates, which I know, stay on the topic, stay on form. It is. I'm telling you right now. Yeah. Okay. I'm staying on farmers. The reason I'm bringing up male suicide rates is because it's something that's very important here. I was meeting with a veterans group, advocacy group for veterans, great group. They said, do you realize that how many veterans killed themselves every year and was shocking number? They said it was 35 for every 100,000 citizens. It was one of the highest up there by far. They said, you know who's higher than that? And they showed me the stats. They go farmers, people who work in agriculture, 43 through 100,000. The highest thing is mining workers. What I'm getting at is life is tough. If you're a military guy, do you know what you're doing to your body to what it's taxing on you? If you're a farmer, the stress that it's putting on your body and economic stress, if you're a mining worker and you're living in the mines, people don't understand how lucky we have in society today because these men are putting their lives on the line for us. So when it comes to the farmers, the respect that you have for them is, is totally justifiable because what they do for society, we don't eat unless the farmers grow their food. We're not protected, unless the veterans protect us. That's the angle I have on this. Yeah. Okay. I mean, you're not saying, hey, life is tough, suck it up. Someone's got to do the job. That's not what you're saying because that's a very cold position if you're taking that. That's not what I said at all. This is tough out there. Yeah, you know, you know, when you go to the airport and you see military, and I always want to walk aside and say, hey, thank you for your service, thank you for your service. But I see farmers. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. I'm like, what do you mean? I said, what do you mean? What do I mean? What do you mean? What do I mean? How many people are willing to do the job that you're doing? And there's something very emotional about it because they hang with their kids. They have kids like the OG reason why you had kids. You have kids because you want them to help you on the farm and help grow the business and you pass it down to them. And this is a generational thing. A lot of time when you see families like, this is what my grandfather did. I spent time with my grandfather on the farm and the memory. So imagine your memories with your grandfather. What was those memories like? For these guys, the memory is, I was helping them be a farmer. I was working with them. I was my hero. And right now, the way they're modeling it, they're finding ways like, you know, the too big to fail similar to how military industrial complex came in and they bought it. We used to have 55 different companies that built and sold weapons and they were competing with Boeing. They were competing with general dynamics. Now, we got like a handful of them. We shared that chart. Yeah. Yeah. We've shown this many times. And now, this is why I'm happy that Palmer Lucky is doing what he's doing. Trust me. We want more farmers. Trust me. We want more farmers to be, you know, doing what they're doing rather than picking them up and going through it. Unfortunately, a part of capitalism is, this is what happens to capitalism. Unfortunately, there is not, you know, there's no, and the government gives a lot of subsidies every year to farmers. I don't know if you know the numbers or not. It's a big number that they give out to them. It's a, it's a very big number because they're trying to find a way, they're trying to find a way for them to stick, stick around and do their business. But, yes. I just, a lot of what BDC does is helping blue collar businesses grow. We have any farmers that are absolutely sour and mario just went and visited two of our farmers. One of them does 150 million year, the other one that's 300 million hours. Yes. I didn't know that. The margins are small, but they work their tails off and so some of them. Cam some of them cannot and remember it's like the small businesses the small business is remember the numbers that half a million two million dollars these guys are trying to have a hard time making a work right now it's very tough but their kids want to get back into the business or they want to get some of them do some of them don't yeah right there look at that right there so in 2025 30.5 billion dollars in direct government farm payments was made just to make sure they make it 2026 forecast is 44.3 billion dollars so we're doing our best but the reality of it is the model of the bigger ones coming and picking up the smarter ones it's just happening at a very fast pace and you hate to see these stories and so yeah it breaks my heart this is what's called crop insurance and American consumer pays for the crop insurance but the top top 10% of the recipients take 78% of it yeah so the small guys at the bottom that bottom 80% only gets 80% you know this is like the and I want to move on to the next door this is kind of like when they were given out the PPP loans and we had a board meeting and I don't know what the amount was for us it was somewhere between a million to four million dollars that we take on PPP loans and never have to pay back and I sat with my board I'm one saying the guy's name he'll remember this was a handful of people in the room they said hey let's take the money we don't have to do anything with that so I'll never take this money he said why not I said we're killing it right now we're making more money than we've ever made before you want me to take PPP loan it's not impacting me if it was we would have taken it it's not let the restaurant guy take it that's going out of business that's what he's saying so 78% of it's going to the big guys that really don't need it so they need to readjust this to give it to people under a certain amount of dollars that they do per year not the big heavyweight guys that are already succeeding at winning so there's some adjustments we can still do in this area and hopefully hopefully we will double check the number bottom 80% of the farmers only received 9% of that that's BS because that's who needs it that's who needs to go to yeah that's BS the money's going to all the big guys dude that's that's you know what that's like that's like given unemployment checks to people that are employed it's so stupid what are you doing if there is the unemployment insurance that we have that pays it off for three months until somebody gets a job just give it to them we're giving our money to everybody I think it's a mistake but anyways let's adjust and let's go to the next story we pray for you to all the farmers your heroes I got so much respect for you guys every time I see I love you guys appreciate you for your hard work and dedication a lot of respect for you and your family breaks my heart when I see legacy businesses go away as a father I'm building my business that God will and one day the kids will be involved in it it's anyways our prayers are with you and our supports with you let me get to the next message can we for Brooklyn to be my boss next message I want to go to is what happened at the idol shooting I want to show this to you I watch this video multiple times and I want to play this at a 1.5 speed it's a four and a half minute video we won't show all of it but we will kind of fast forward remember last week when we talked about the Idaho shooting we were all sitting around and it showed the video of the guy going like this and we're like what the hell is going on then there was another brave man who got involved and he came in and he's like wait a minute I saw this and he was kind of won the guys that pushed him off to the point that he eventually killed himself so this could this could happen to anybody anywhere okay and I'm not trying to scare you but this video depicts what happened there right so just imagine what the end and out workers look like when you see them they're smiling it's a faith based company they're not open on Sundays they're building based on solid values and an Idaho is the number one state and licensed to carry more people and Idaho carried throughout the day than any other state in America their number one just so you know this it's not like this happened in Chicago Shy Rack or it happened in Baltimore or LA or Compton note this is an Idaho so watch the guy that's narrating and I was going through it I want to put the speed at 1.5 is I thought we put it at 1.5 we did go forward on the civic when he reaches the payment window the gunman shoots the first victim Ashley Garibay who later succumbed to her injuries at the hospital the gunman proceeds in the drive-thru parking his car he shot her already so you know that's one now watch what he does he stops the car so people can't go around Christopher Klunch in his vehicle who is pronounced dead at the scene shoots the guy who shoots the guy in front of the Idaho State Police Street watch the Austin James runs towards the incident where he encounters the gunman and is the third victim shot horrible to the cop just runs up he gets shot runs away he's bleeding Mr. James retreats and draws his handguards in a black shirt the the gray shirt perpetrator yes yes do to his severe injury and blood loss he is pulled back into his vehicle and given that's before the hospital so now watch people are panicking they got a man returns this is the guy he's rendering aid to Ashley he fires into the window a second time before he's shooting in the vehicle to retrieve a rifle so it locks up this is the workers so imagine inside the restaurant and off duty Idaho State Police Trooper assists in evacuating patrons and employees while he searches for the officer with the rifle the gunman runs back to the drive-through and fires at nearby patrons before returning to the payment window for a third time as a cop yeah but wait for there's a couple guys I want to come help and see what happens to them the off-duty ISP Trooper and the gunman exchange fire the gunman retreats before returning to the payment window for a fourth time firing inside and striking the fourth victim a good Samaritan who was attempting to assist the off-duty trooper and render aid to the victim inside we still haven't seen that guy wait George wait for no you're not gonna see it see what what he does he's to the food window upon seeing no one inside he moves on people like this exists so now watch these people are trying to get out and go save your self a woman fleeing from inside the restaurant runs alongside the building before encountering the gunman she takes cover behind his vehicle and picks up the handgun he left behind and now he runs off you know he's running off towards the road yeah watch what he does at the road so now innocent people are driving by watch what he does discovering it is jammed she discards the pistol as she runs away and the gunman walks towards Blue Lakes Boulevard North the gunman fires at multiple vehicles that are stopped shooting the cars listen he starts shooting get cars driving on a regular roll my god sick so then he comes back a good Samaritan with a handgun engages the gunman who is running north towards the Tesla charging station so you see the guy right there charging his car in his Tesla look what he does to him watch the gunman shoots the eighth victim in the first Tesla he then shoots the third deceased victim Dale Schultz and his passenger the tenth victim in the second Tesla the gunman proceeds through the parking lot in your car he is seen by people inside who evacuate the store this is just sick this is just sick he's just killing arbitrarily does any goes and he goes with trail and he talks to some person that works it a kind of the laser and the cop shop and then when they surround him like the coward that he is he shoots himself in the so how many fast food workers do we have in America that are young kids how many parents do you have right now now imagine your parent your kid works at McDonald's works at Burger King works at Wendy's works at in and out every day your kid goes to work this could happen anywhere so now how do you process this right here Tom now that you see the video going from the beginning to the end how do you react to it I have a lot of thoughts I'm curious in a way think about it so first of all I know this area I'm Kim myself the girls we've been to this this exact in and out a dozen times right across Canyon rim trail where he ultimately shot himself is where my my father-in-law lives right there in Twin Falls and this guy was this absolutely disturbed we can talk about him all day long but what I I was amazed at the video how many times did he say good Samaritan it's because the people there is a reason that Idaho is number 50 in muggings and in crime because there's a 62% chance someone's gonna be armed and I want in the midst of the tragedy I honestly was sitting there thinking to myself how many times was he interrupted by a citizen with a weapon a citizen with a weapon deterred him from the main street where he's indiscriminately shooting at those cars came back and it's just and this is before the police could arrive and set up perimeter and and do with this and so I'm very pleased that trained responsible citizens were part of this and I think people are gonna talk about the tragedy side of it which is number one in the headline and people just charge in their Tesla two of them get shot in the front seat of their car sitting there in a Tesla waiting the 20 minutes for it to get about an 80% charge because that was a supercharger station but how the second point I go to is if it wasn't for the good Samaritan's there how much worse could that have been yeah so to me the first thing that I get is whatever you do get a gun follow the guidelines of your state follow the guidelines of whatever you're doing you have to protect yourself today there's a lot of weird things going on right now I'm gonna show you a clip of what happened this weekend when Adam went to dinner in Miami I actually want to go through we'll go through it right afterwards to because I want to hear your thoughts from it as well and people I I there was a there was an article we read last week that's a 2020 we read last week that's a 2028 I think was Axios that's a 2020 it will be the year of AI elections right bots it's I posted a Adam Kinzinger said something can you go on Twitter can you go on Twitter on Adam and Ken Zinger's account? I cannot even believe I'm going to disguise accounts. Go to Adam Ken Zinger's account. I don't know who he was until you guys were describing it. I think we've talked about him once before. And you remind me I'm like, okay, I know who he is. Go a little bit lower. So I retweeted the fact that you know Elon Musk's star link is thinking about competing with AT&T and others. And I said, we were on a flight that had star link and I was a little go right there. You're about to get to it, right? Click on that first. Click on my tweet first so we can go back. So and right there. So star link is preparing to launch a rival cellular services challenge to T-Mobile Verizon and AT&T. I was on a flight yesterday that had star link. The service was amazing. I was able to face time and make calls during the entire flight. Literally I'm making calls and doing face time with people calling me they're like, what are you doing? I'm on a flight now. It was a PJ. So we're with our business associates. Eight eight of us. We're not on a regular flight. That was that we wouldn't be doing that with people sin offers. Well, flight attendants won't let you do that. So Adam responds back and says, which is so amazing just for everyone around you to hear bed you'll loudly talk about all your business deals, which we do. But he's being sarcastic and I'm asking, what is he saying by this? I'm just curious into what he's saying. So I went back and I responded to the comment, go a little bit lower to see my comment being. And I said, says the guy who got a preemptive pardon from Biden. Thank you. Nothing says I'm guilty like getting a preemptive pardon. I'd keep my mouth shut if I were you. No one on either side trust you. I would also put likes you all the best. This is like a prostitute for media that's used. It's a cheap prostitute. They just use guys like this. But if you can click my comments and go under my comment. I want you to see what the first guy says. First guy says S F S T F U, which you know what that means. You're a Jewish puppet. Oh, okay. All right. Maybe I am. Let me click on all of it. Let me see what this guy saying. Go click on. Click on his account if you can. Yeah, hover over the account. The non picture. And look at this. Account started when May 2020 says, oh, this is a bot. So imagine people are like this works, by the way, just so you know, people believe this. So go back to the account and if you can. Yeah, you A E, go back to the account and look what I said. Okay, let's see right there. And you're a bot who started his account two months ago. Keep dividing and spreading lies. You don't win at the end. You just make a ton of noise and confuse the majority for a short period and they do. And so imagine if a your young person who doesn't double check, oh my god, these people are these months. And then you also have a sudden take action and you go to become a hero. And you do what this kid just didn't kill yourself at the end. You kill the bunch of innocent people that are trying to. So what's the point? What is our responsibility as fathers, men, husbands, leaders of our household? One of the jobs we have is the S word, security, safety. We have to do our part. Things like this can happen at any time because crazies are everywhere. And right now there's benefit to inciting rage because they need those opportunities. Political parties look for these types of opportunities. But what can you what can you and I do? We got to protect ourselves. You got something that happened the other day when the car we're talking where guy pulls up on a parking lot and you were ready. Oh yeah. Yeah. You were ready to. I saw I saw two guys pull in. I'm cleaning my car in a parking lot. Yeah. Big empty parking lot. Two guys pull up at them. They're chilling. They watch me. They turn around and they're in another empty parking lot. And it's just a stare off. And they're staring at me. And guess what? I'm ready to go. And I'm just sitting there. Well, because my truck is tall. And I'm just like this. And I'm staring at them. And after literally three minutes, I just go, are we good? Are we good? Mother, my gun is right there right in front of me. And then boom. And they sped off. So I don't know what they were up to. But you have to be on. It's pretty. It's pretty. And by the way, it's not for people to be like, man, imagine what kind of a lot of time we're living in what we need to have guns. This happened in 1776 as well. This was the case in 1800s more than today. It's just it was normal back then 1900s and today. You know, it's it's a very normal thing for us to have to protect ourselves. I can tell you what states I wouldn't be living in. I wouldn't be living in a state or a city where I can't carry. Never. You would never find me living in a place that I can't carry. Never. There's no benefit to it. I'm out. I remember the first time our Ranger was broken into at night when I was asleep. Guy comes in takes it takes my bag and takes my security system. And I said, uh-oh, we're not living here anymore. 90 days that I moved into a gated community with about a bunch of guns in California. And then that moment is when a time magazine article came out on the cover. It says you can pull this up. Actually time magazine. United States of Texas. And I said, you know what? I'm getting the hell out of California. And I started selling Jen Moral, my family, Melva. Everybody were moving to Texas. Everyone's like, well, we don't want to move to Texas. We're moving to Texas. And we moved to Texas because of it offers a little bit more of a freedom than it did in California. So you as a leader of the household, you got to make a decision where you want to take your kids to feel free. Adam, I'll come to you for a couple thoughts and we'll move on to the next story. Well, regarding that Idaho shoes, uh, you know, the first thing that comes to mind is just out. They say life is short, man. Life is short. And I'm wearing the insurance business. We know that life is actually long if you're healthy. But what life is is precious. At any point, I mean, at any point, whether you're in the car on the way to work, you're charging your test light and in and out, crazy people are out there. So I agree with you. You got to take the necessary precautions to stay safe. That's really all it is. Uh, you wanted to talk about the other thing. Well, no, I, I, well, on the shooting and the thing, I mean, Tom made a bunch of great points is how many times civilian stepped up, I wish that cop, you're an off duty cop. Have a little bit, you don't just whatever tactic school he went to just running around the corner. He should come up and you should, you know, that there's a threat. You hear the shooting beam, you know, be more cognizant and use your training. But then, you know, we don't know nothing about this kid. What type of mental? Yeah. What is going on with you? I want to find out the meds, you know, the social footprint, the friends that didn't know. Family. Family. I'm very curious to what. And again, I'm talking about evil is evil. And I'm pretty sure it was inside of his soul. But what gets you to that point where that you have to do that. And that's going through your body. Like when he was just standing there, trying to figure out, where am I going to go to the street? There's something evil going on inside you, but how he got there. But for that girl, the biggest shot with that, that young girl that ran all the way on the side, ducks for cover grabs his gun because she was trying to engage and the gun is jammed. That's why he couldn't keep shooting in the window. That girl's toughness is holy moly. And that she ducked behind the car. And in her head, she's like, I'm going to grab the gun and I'm going to engage it jammed. Thank God he didn't come to her because she would have been screwed. But time at a great point, the bravery and the people that stood up because guess what? Nobody shot back. If nobody engaged him, it would have been three times more. He's dead. I mean, they're right now. They haven't told us anything, meaning the market right now is waiting to learn more about this guy. They still haven't revealed enough information about him. Hopefully, they will soon frustrate what's happening. So this weekend, you're in Miami. And me and the family come back from dinner. And we're at dinner. We're about to watch Margin call. All of a sudden, Vinnie's like, what's this? We're getting tacked all over the place on X. I'm like, what is this? And it's a video of Adam, you're in it. I'll play it. So maybe, you know, let us know what's going on here before I play to Cliff. Just give us a little bit of an insight of what this is. I'm in Miami. I'm in Miami Beach. I'm actually going to an event for our friend, Dominic Chargeinski. It's a meetup and people are there. I'm not scheduled to be there. I have no affiliation with it. I'm just coming to say hi to just someone that we've interviewed multiple times. And you don't know who you're going to run into in the lobby. That's really all it comes down to. It's okay. So then here's what happens. You run into a guy named. I don't even want to say his name. You have to say his name. I think it's Jake Jake Lang. So here's what happens. Go forward. What you guys do, but you guys need to get pressed out. Uh-oh. You guys need a couple of fucking bigger bombs chopped on your boat. I'm going to burn the car. I'm just He's sitting with like 10 people. He has a caron. He's Jewish. He's against that. That's based. Yeah. I just kept saying not my thing, but it's not my thing. It's not your not my thing. It's burning. It's burning. I'm the caron. Listen, he's sitting there. This is a bunch of race-trading faggots. Fuck Patrick, David, deport him. Fuck him. And the restaurant's lots of people are sitting. He's not just burning the caron. He's burning his bridge right now. >> You guys burned it as bridge right now. >> I want to push you get Patrick back there. >> Yeah, he's got a phone call. Patrick, back there, it sucks Indian cock. >> He's just got a phone call. >> Yeah, that's it. >> Got it, okay. >> So, what is this stick? This is the guy that takes the pork and goes and deer born and walks around and bake, and this is the same guy. >> I know it's guy, you know what's guy at his pack? Can you just play that, play that? >> This is a Jewish dude, hold on, pull yourself low over the music. This is a Jewish dude, okay, a Jewish guy that goes around, says he's Christian Pat, and he's trying to do civil unrest against Christians and Muslims, okay? You know how I feel about Islam and all that stuff, but I have Muslims friends and I love Muslims, but what he's doing, what he's doing, burning the Quran, shoving baking in it. You know exactly what his motive is, and I'd be very, very interested to see who's paying him to be that guy. That's not normal, and that's not natural, Pat, that's not organic, that's all a show, and he's in a restaurant with butane or lighter fluid, lighting, and nobody's saying anything. He's a fraud, he's a fraud, and I would bet money, Jake, none of this dialogue that you would ever say about him or us, ever into our face, ever, and keep going, keep going, keep going. He wanted dear boy and keep doing that crap with the pig. - Well no, he did say to Adam's face. - Yeah, well, listen. - I'm saying say to me, say what me there and see what happens. - Here's what I've learned, here's what I know. You called me, I met dinner, I just got to the restaurant. Remember I was like, what's going on, PPD? You said, what happened, how was it, what's going on? I go, what are you talking about? I go, the meetup with Dominic? That's like no, the video of you, I go, what video? I had no clue, yes? So you sent me the video, I look at it and I realized this. 15 seconds is all it takes to run into somebody for something stupid to happen. I don't know this guy, I don't hang out with this guy, this is not, you run into this person. So all you could do is avoid toxic people. - Is this your first interaction with them? - Yes. I think he's been on a unusual suspect. He's upset that you don't want him on the PPD podcast. Here, I'll give you some context actually. You see some other kid, there's a black kid there and a white kid there, if you want to show the video. The one kid saying, he's burning his bridge. He's burning his bridge, this kid, if you say this, he's not just burning this, watch this. We're giving this kid. - He'll be a white, he'll be a white kid there. He knew something was gonna go down. - He's a black guy there and this kid, watch this. Just understand. - I heard it, I heard it, he heard it. - He's not burning his bridge, right? - Because he was, this guy's burning his bridge. - Would love to come on the podcast and talk to you. And I was like, yeah, I mean, we'll see. So that's what he should pray. - Yes, I said, man, we'll see, that's not my call. And then he goes, well, we got to start something about, we got to press you, duh, duh, duh. And I'm like, okay, whatever that means. The kid was trying to basically coordinate us. I'm like, yeah, bro, we're not talking. Imagine you're a black guy sitting at dinner with this guy who's shouting the N word. Why are you sitting with this guy? - Why don't you punch him in the face? - Imagine you're this kid that's trying to, I don't know, do something reasonable with his life. And this is who you hang out with. My ultimate point is this, the people who are sitting with this guy have a choice to stay at that dinner or leave. I've been in some stupid rooms in my life. I've been around some stupid ass people. What I do is walk the F away. If you're in that person that after dinner stays there, after some guy burns the caron, shouts and bombs, telling everybody else my, or everything, that's on you. This guy's got major issues, good luck to him. - Yeah. - My question is the people around him. - Why are you around the world? The January 6th with a bat hitting bro. He's there to provoke. And I hope somebody out there, I don't know, one of these investigative journalists, and allegedly texting underage girls and trying to holler at girls too. So if you think about who he is, what he's doing, where he's from, Pat. And then beating up cops with a bat. Can you show that? That's him with a bat January 6th. - No, no, this is emphasize that. - That's Jake Lang. - He's there, Jake starts. - So guys, so don't, it's, it's, it's, peace it together, who he is, what he's about, what he's claiming, he's an operative. So, plain and simple, you're a fraud. - Thank you for fraud. - Thank you for sharing that. As much as information you know about him, I know nothing. It was a dude who came up to me. - Well, we opened our door with him. - That's what we gave him. - He's been here on the show? - We gave him unusual suspects. We were freaking. - You were on the show with him? - I was on the show. - Oh, no, I was on the show. And I was in on that show. - No, you were on the show. - I don't know this guy. - Yeah. - I know this guy, this guy is unoriginal, he's, he's a freaking operative and I can't wait to find out. - I don't know exactly what he wants. - No, Mike, it's, it's not even working on him. So he, he, you know, I saw girl the other day tag me in a video and I'm like, wait, she just like went off Patrick Beddavid is this and she just went off on trash for me. I'm like, wait a minute, I think I know this girl. She came for a job interview and I said, let me go check my the end with this girl. I did. She reached out to me. I'm a big fan. I love the content. I love what you, I love the fact that you interview and then there's an entire, he, can I come into this? I said, give me your number. I gave it to Robert or Robert or you go do an interview. And then now, so there's a pattern, which by the way, the longer you're around this happens. If you don't give people a platform, they get angry and they come out and call you everything that, so I'm, that part is, it is what it is. But the part with guys like this is burning the Quran. My son is reading it. What burning the Quran? You know, my son wrote Communist manifesto. We read everything. I read mine comp. Anything and everything to get educated to learn what's going on on the other side that you may or may not agree with and ask yourself, why are so many other people interested in this topic? We want to get educated. Burn it. It's the dumbest thing you can do. That's exactly what, you know, cause the fatwa that you got from Khomeini back in the days with Salman Rushdie burning, you don't do stuff like that. But there are plenty of people like that in America today that want this. And it gets you to think about who wants to divide America. This is not a pro-America guy. This is not a guy that's going to unify us. This is not a guy that's going to do that. This just raises the temperature. More than anything else. Now don't get me wrong. The price of freedom of speech is what? He gets to say everything he just said. Of course he can. That's America. He gets to say anything he wants to say. But there will come a time where you're going to face somebody and that person's not going to handle it like a lot of other guys. That's how this world works. You can go around talking as much shit as you want and you meet somebody. And then something happens. Those types of people are out there. Our goal is to try to lower the temperature instead of seeing something like this take place. Unfortunately, this is not a good example of it. But now when I saw this video that was sent my way, I'm like, wait, what? What was this all about? So anyways, now we know where he stands and FYI to us, we give everybody a platform. The guy sent me a message on my neck saying, you know what? The things changed ever since you hosted the BB. I said, really? Yeah. Okay. I said, tell me what other podcast hosted BB and hosted Nick Fuentes within 30 days. Go ahead. I'll wait. Go ahead. And tell me which other show hosted BB and Fuentes and Mediasan and Andrew Wilson and Andrew rotate. And go ahead. Try to find somebody. It does not exist. It doesn't exist. We're the only ones that will sit down and have the conversations with everybody and people feel comfortable doing that. You know, people will feel comfortable doing that. So I'm in the, like, you know, right now, Andrew Wilson and I think Candace Owens, they're going back and forth. I hope they have a debate. I hope they do it. Okay. I hope it. But you know what it is? What is it? I'm glad they're doing it. And there's a camp that's going to side with Camp Candace. Candace has got a bigger audience than Andrew and there's going to be a camp that sides with Andrew. But guess who wins? The audience that gets to hear both arguments and hopefully both of them will come prepared and let's see how people react to it. So to me, this, this behavior right here is the kind of behavior that gets America closer to a civil war. You don't need stuff like this and I don't need stuff like it. And it's not, I'm telling you right now, I, my heart of heart, he's not organic. That doesn't just come out of nowhere where you're that guy and you're doing it and it's all on purpose. And don't get me wrong. I understand about the fight. Okay. I understand. Islam, the ideology, the stages that I'm coming here, I get that and I'm willing to fight and I'm down to fight. Okay. Because the enemy that we're going to be fighting, I'm not going to pass it down to our kids and nieces. And that's, you know, it's that fight's coming and it's here and I'm going to fight it now. That's ridiculous. And that's him right there getting his butt jumped. Look at him. And then he's playing the victim. See, here's doing what? Right. He's there with the professional. He has a sign that's like, what is an agitated, but wait a minute. What's that sign right? What's he doing here? I don't know what it was. But by the way, let's just say he's holding a sign that has to do with Jesus, but he went out there and put the bacon in his crotch in his crotch and then in the Bible, he's saying America is a Christian country. He's agitated. A Jewish guy with a Christian sign. He'll be a break. Go ahead. I don't know what. I just want to say this one last thing. I completely disavow this person. Of course you do. You don't even know. I have nothing to do with this. That's all of us. Yeah. Okay. All right. So let's go to the next story. I'm by the way, that's the crazy part. People watch this and it's like going back to the day where I went to publics and I'm wearing a future looks bright shirt and I'm wearing a future looks bright hat. And I do this every time and I go to the same lady toward my martadella, every time and she smirkes at me every single time and she says, you really believe the future looks bright? Yes. You really believe that? Yeah. I said, you don't. No. Of course I don't believe the future looks bright. You believe in God? Yeah. Of course I believe in God. How do you not believe the future looks bright if you believe in God? Yeah. But that's after we die. I said, no, that's not how this works. I said, that's not how this works. It works but you truly believe in the future looks bright because God is in charge at the end of the day and everything works itself out. Even with that bot when I said, you're going to be able to confuse certain people but you're not going to win at the end of the day. Folks, bots are coming for your brain and your mind. And unfortunately, you know who they're able to get? The younger audience. Oh my God. Let me go do something because I'm a hero. And I certainly believe the future looks bright ourselves. That position is not going to change for us. And by the way, if you can, we're about to announce three new shoes. Oh, I can't wait for you guys to hear the whole new big announcement we're making with future looks bright. In the interim, let's play the clip for the FLB shoes. Go for it. We set out to create a shoe that blends comfort, function and luxury. We had the choice to make it fast. We had the choice to make it cheap. We chose knife. Instead, we chose tuscanero. We chose true Italian craftsmanship. Each pair of touch by 50 steel bands. We chose patience, spending two years perfect in every detail and we chose the finest quality at every step. Introducing the future looks bright collection. Not rushed, not disposable, not ordinary, rather intentional. - I'm sure he is, timeless. - It's funny, I was at our annual convention last week in Las Vegas and I was wearing 2,000 autographed dress shoes 'cause it's my last one. I'm like, let me just, I flew in in the FLBs, but on stage for four hours, I said, let me wear these dress shoes. - How did you feel, how did I feel? - My feet were begging me to toss the shoes out. I was begging, I get a call from Stefano Richie, they say, "You look amazing with your new shoes, I'm so proud of you." I said, "Never again." I said, "This made me feel so uncomfortable." Yeah, but to look good, you have to be uncomfortable, to look good, you have to be uncomfortable. I said, "No, George, I disagree." We had a nice little friendly back and forth, and so I've worn these things. FLBs non-stop, they're so flipping comfortable. It's not even funny and light at the same time. If you haven't yet placed an order for yourself, your husband, your son, go to vteamersh.com, place your order. With that being said, let's get to the next story. The next story I wanna get to is kind of a weird story. Weird story. Iran's president only allowed to speak to missing supreme leader in a dark meeting. What? This can't be real, this is a movie. This is Donnie Barasco. Yeah, why is that? This is Goodfellas, this is Godfather. No, no, this is Iran. Seriously, yes. So officially, the modern day, Corleone Vito is a different name of Mochitabah Khamenei. That's who he is today. You got to meet underground. Iranian president Masood Pezishkan was allegedly taken to a secret around location, allowed minutes into a dark, tinted window car with a man presented as supreme leader Mochitabah Khamenei, according to Iran International. Pezishkan could not see the man beside him and later ask whether the voice he had heard had really belonged to the supreme leader. Sources claim the report described the president as finding this situation humiliating, particularly after threats to resign, to convince handlers to allow the meeting Mochitabah Khamenei who succeeded his father Ali after his death on February 28th, has not made any public appearances, no release videos or audio statements leaving Iranians with no proof of whether he's alive or not. Rumors suggest he was severely injured in the air strike that killed his father potentially with a disfigured face or limb amputation. Pezishkan claimed in May to have met Khamenei for two and a half hours, described in a conversation as direct and frank, but in a Thursday state media interview, conceded communication is now very difficult. He nonetheless praised Khamenei as exceptional in terms of ethics, logic and humility and deny planning to resign, saying, "I will not resign and I will stand firm." Iran International had reported Pezishkan, attempted to resign dozens of times with Khamenei, a legit, allegedly warning he would not, he would accept the next resignation, letter Trump mocked the regime in April. Iran is having a very hard time figuring out who their leader is. They just don't know, Tom Thoughts on the story. - Well, CIA and other people, there have been leaks all over the place since the attacks, the very early attacks that there is a full building collapse, and supposedly he did lose an eye, and was disfigured and allegedly lost a lower limb that was pinned in debris. So, that's from, that's not conjecture, that's the conclusion coming out of multiple leaks and reports, and then the guy doesn't show up in public. And so, he's basically, we have, we have no place to say anything about this, and I'll tell you why. Because we just had Biden as president, and for the last two years, there was evidence of incapacitation. This guy's incapacitated. They won't even let him go out in public 'cause they don't want to show what Trump to say. That's what I did to that guy, you're next, you're next, Vinnie. They don't want that, right? They don't want to give Trump that victory. I knew where you were and I got you. So, that's what's going on. But you haven't, they had basically an incapacitated leader. They're trying to make good and make it work. But you know what, we had an incapacitated leader. We could clearly see that Biden was suffering, whether it was dementia or Alzheimer's or age-related disorder, whatever it was. It was, it was sad to see, if you have a heart, I do have a heart, and it was sad to see what we were doing with our president. So, we don't, no pun intended, but we don't have a leg to stand on here because they're not the only country that's had an incapacitated leader, and they don't want to put it out in public. And then the real question is, Pat, who's really running the country? - But, you know what it makes me think about, sorry Vinnie, you know what it makes me think about is because he claimed, Pazishkin claimed he had a meeting with him on an early May for two and a half hours, but no videos, no audio, no pictures, no nothing, and people are like, wait a minute, you really sure that took place? You sure that meeting took place? No handshake, nothing. So, we have to now believe that. And the part that gets me a new question, by the way, this article's a reported by Reuters, Bloomberg, so it's not like it's a story that's a daily mail story. You know, it's a story that's coming up from credible sources. The question becomes, why drop that story today? Why? Why drop that story today? After what? After the offers that are being made, after negotiation where Americans are realizing that Iran's economy is in shambles, and they don't want Iran, you know, you have to have the leverage over that. By the way, you know what's the one thing, Iranian leaders follow very, very, very closely. The polls in America, midterm polls, Trump's credibility. You know what Iran said on their news this past weekend? Iran said on their news this past weekend that the Iran war is the number one reason why Trump is now a not a popular president in America. And the longer it goes, the less popular Trump gets, getting closer to the midterm. So they know timing. And then at the same time, you know, the whole story with the 15 point that came in that BB apparently is not, where's that story at that says Netanyahu rejects board of peace 15 point peace plan until Hamas truly is disarmed. That story comes out until Hamas is truly disarmed. And Tom, what are your thoughts with agreement? The 15 point why BB wouldn't agree to it? I think you even said it's kind of fair. It's not like it's that aggressive of a request that they have. Yeah. Well, BB doesn't trust anything that the other side would be willing to sign period. He doesn't trust it. The same way we don't have a lot of trust of Iran. Sure. However, it's a lot of me. I read this. Let me read this on Israel rejects a 15 point plant Netanyahu set at the start of a cabinet meeting. The idea will not make any withdrawal until Hamas is truly dismissal will continue to thwart threats against the forces and citizens. So that that's kind of what the kind regarding the Gaza Strip, first of all, I want to clarify that the main thing is as long as I am prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state, neither in Gaza nor in Judea or Samaria. Netanyahu said, when I say disarmament, Hamas, I mean the heavy weapons, the less heavy weapons, all the weapons, and we are talking about the real disarmament, not fictitious disarmament. Netanyahu to call Trump our greatest friend in the White House, but added we can and know how to stand or ground even against our best friend when necessary. Yeah, is what Israel is saying is I wanted to define your disarmament, and I'm not going to sign an agreement where both of us do something. And the agreement, remember, when Omar Sadat came across as Suez Canal, and 67, Adam, or 73. I don't know. No, no, there's three major wars that happened in Israel at that time. So when Omar Sadat came across, there was an incredibly difficult negotiation, because Israel actually defended and pushed back and pushed back further. And so now Israel was occupying land, which was previously belonged to Egypt, before they attacked. So they attacked, and they got got pushed way back. And there was this massive negotiation ahead to go through, but cool heads prevailed, and they were able to get it, neither wanted military stuff in that area. So Israel historically has been able to protect itself and get what's necessary. This seems that there were some reasonable parts to it, but BB came back and said, look, if it's anything involving a Palestinian state here, or you don't disarm first, we're not going to do it. And it's like, it's like two guys that are pointing guns at each other pat, right? You have a standoff. He says, okay, we both drop our guns. No, you drop yours first. The other guy's not going to do that. Wait, I dropped my gun, then I get shot. So I kind of felt that there was room in this, but Israel doesn't want it. And I thought there was room to have progress here. And we need progress. And clearly there's some zero acceptables that BB has. I have three points. So number one, Trump is in a very tough spot. I don't know if you've ever tried to negotiate with Iranian and a Jewish guy. It's not easy. And that's what Trump is trying to do. So if I would recommend Trump, if I was in Trump's ear with Iran and Israel right now, I would say number one, brush up on the book that you authored called The Art of the Deal. Make sure you remember all your stuff. And I would read one more book. You ever read the book, never split the difference? And it's basically a hostage negotiator, who's basically saying, here's how you deal with business, like how I dealt with hostage negotiations, right? Negotiate is if your life depends on it. Now, there's why I respect Iran and the IRGC, because they're really good at what they do. And what do they do? Is they hold people hostage really well? That's kind of what terrorists think, you know? They'll hold their own people hostage. They'll hold the Gulf States hostage, because if you try to basically do anything in there, there's going to shoot down America. and bases, and if they could, they'd hold the whole world in the hostage with nukes, and Trump is realizing how do you negotiate with these people? You know, what's the famous thing they said in Afghanistan? You guys might have the watches, but we have all the time. They will wait out Trump. Now, what I will push back on that is, and I've said this before, they're worried about the end of times, and Trump's worried about midterms. So come midterms, I think Trump is gonna deal with this one way or another. We're just gonna wait this out. The Iranian economy is plummeting, whereas what's the worst thing that's happened here? A dollar extra in gas prices, I get it. I think after midterms, this thing gets settled. As far as BB goes, look, when I was on the plane, I read this article, here you go. Here's these two guys sitting and having a discussion. I think they're not fully aligned, but they're aligned enough to know who the bad guy is, and that's Iran. - Vinnie. - Well, I mean, rejecting the plan, but I mean, complete this armament, I think it's almost impossible standard. How do you prove it? Who decides Hamas has zero weapons left? Who's gonna verify the tunnels, the hidden weapons, and not like, if Israel gets to the side, when Hamas is fully disarmed, and Israel gets to the side when the war ends? Okay, and at some point, America has to ask like, what's actually achievable? What are you trying to do? Because I've seen the videos, I've seen everything. Gaza is no more. So we just have to take your word and say like, Hamas, I thought we killed everybody. I thought everybody was dead. So now you could just keep saying, well, it's Hamas is still there. You everything out of them. Think about the sons and all the people. Hamas is never gonna go anywhere, because now you just created a bunch of people that are upset. - What's your recommendation? - No, my recommendation is it's gonna keep going. It's never gonna, you think, what's your recommendation? - There is no recommendation at all. 'Cause there's no, there's no, that's like when you say the war and terrorism, there's no face. - Well, let me read this to you, Vinnie. Let me read this to you. So from the post millennial, nearly half of Muslim Americans have a favorable view of Hamas. Pew poll finds, this is not Fox News poll. This is not Breibard. This is Pew. Pew and Gallup are probably two of the most credible that are non-partisan polls out there, okay? And some may even say they lean left, but they're fairly reasonable. According to Pew Research Survey from July, 44% of Muslim Americans support Hamas. While 26% have a favorable view of Israel people, 26% of Muslims. Among all, one out of four Muslim has a favorable view of Israeli people. 74% don't. Three out of four. Among all Americans under the age of 30, 58% said they have a favorable view of Palestinian people, compared to 32% said the same about Israelis. Pew also found a significant shift amongst Republicans, Republicans under 30 view Palestinians, Israelis more similarly than older Republicans, a notable change from previous years and Republicans were far more favorable towards Israel. Democrats have more positive view of Palestinian authority than of Israeli government. Younger Democrats were slightly more likely to view Hamas favorably than Israeli government, while older Democrats were slightly more favorable of Israel's government. Religious affiliation also played a significant role. Jewish Americans and white evangelical Protestants were favorable to Israeli people than the government and other groups. White evangelical Protestants were the only religious group surveyed in which a majority express favorable view of Israel government. That means Catholic and others and they were on the other side. The findings came amid grown skepticism amongst Americans towards both Israel's actions and conflict of Gaza and Iran and influence within the US. So 44% supported Hamas. How do you react to this poll? I mean, that's, it's not good, it's a terrorist organization. But what, what, what my question is, what pushes Americans besides the bots and all the, what, what is changing that view on people of Hamas? I'm very curious. What do you think? I'm just, I'm just, I'm just curious because we saw got October 7th horrible, horrible Hamas, horrible terrorism, horrible. But the response, I think one of them could be the response of Israel was so brutal and so over the top that it's making people bad because it could have easily been, could have easily-- You know, it's crazy, I had been here on last week. Yeah. And the podcast is going to come out this Wednesday. And we talked about Nick Fuentesh and he said something he's never said about Nick Fuentesh. Which I think the audience, groipers, go tag each other and you'll know this Wednesday, this Wednesday it'll drop. And then we talked about his biggest blind spot. I was surprised that he was actually open to the discussion of his blind spot. He actually openly talked about it. Okay, his blind spot. It's a great part of the discussion. It's one of the best parts of discussion. But you know what else he talked about? What Israel did wrong? He says, you know what's the biggest criticism Netanyahu gets in Israel today? I'll let him describe it. He says, in Israel both on the left and on the far right, they're both united on one thing that BB didn't respond fast enough and strong enough against Hamas. Let me say it one more time. In Israel, the people that criticized him that are probably going to take over Israel now, they're going to replace BB. On the left and the right, if there's one thing they're united on is that BB didn't react fast enough to what Hamas did to their people. That's hard enough. He didn't go hard enough. So we'll see what's going to happen there. The part that is interesting is 44% is favorable of Hamas. Tom, how do you look at this poll? Pew. Well, with some degree of horror, you have people that are living here in the United States and want all the freedom that we afford. And they have a positive viewpoint of a world terrorist group. And that, so does it shock me? You know what? When people tell you who they are, believe them. And that's, it shocks me. You know, we have great freedoms in the United States and we have all sorts of, you know, fates from people around the world. I don't remember Hindu Indians saying that they had a favorable view of some, you know, terrorist group and they would love them to come over and wreak havoc and they look forward to it. I don't recall Buddhist Japanese who came over after World War II talking about that they look forward to Buddha coming over and raising cane. And I just didn't see it. And now they openly say what they want to do in the future with Islam and America. And then they say they support a, you know, a paramilitary organization that's a terrorist group supported by Iran, to which I say, I'm not surprised, but I'm kind of worried. Adam, final thoughts on we'll move on. Well, number one, Israel has a PR problem. They do not have a winning a war problem. They have a PR problem. Hamas are like freedom fighters is like saying al-Qaeda are aviation aficionados. You got to go, I didn't call them freedom fighters. I call them terrorist organizations. I wasn't talking to you, Tom. I'm just talking about Hamas. We're talking about, that's the story is about, right? So what I'll say about this for the people that love Hamas. I would ask, how do you feel about ISIS? How do you feel about al-Qaeda? How do you feel about Hezbollah? When you answer that, we'll have a little clarity. But more importantly, how do you feel about America? Because something tells me that people that are rooting for Hamas are also rooting against America. So if I'm Israel, I'm looking at the lay of the land and I recognize that I have a PR problem. But then it comes back to the conversation they had and white man can't jump. Would you rather look bad and win or look good and lose? And I would argue you always want to win. You always want to have total victory if you can. And you'd rather be respected versus liked. So yes, Israel has to clean up their PR problem. But Hamas is the bad guy here. Yeah, well, listen, we'll see what happened. And again, the Ben Shapiro interview when it comes out, it is very, very interesting what things he talked about. And by the way, he reached out to me to come on the podcast. We didn't reach out to him. You know, the last time when it was canceling all this stuff after Nick Fuentes, he reached out. We sat down. We had a great conversation. And Nick was one of the topics of discussion. And it could lead to into very interesting thing afterwards. All right, let's get to the next story. Next story I want to get into is flawed cameras. I don't know if you're following this thing with flawed cameras. Very, very weird what they're doing. Like how much more do you want to know? And this is about what I actually think this is going to be a topic of discussion in midterms in 2028 that people have to address. That people truly have to address. So let me kind of go through this with you. And you tell me how you feel about this. What pages is it on page 14? All right, here we go. Flock plan to use 350,000 Uber lift and delivery drivers as mobile license plate cameras. What? Uber drivers. Yes. What's your outcome? Why are you doing this? A Flock presentation obtained through a public record request shows the surveillance company, plan to use dash cameras installed in hundreds of thousands of Uber lift and delivery cars to collect license plate data of its net, of course, net worth. The document written to present the Georgia office of the Attorney General last August stated, plus NXR partnership, which include 350,000 Uber lift and other delivery service devices. Flock told 404 media it never executed the partnership with NXR, but the presentation lays out the company's plan to enlist right share and delivery drivers to gather license plate data. It is not clear whether Uber lift or drivers would have known their vehicles were being used for this purpose. NXR sells dash cams that provide front cabin and rear view and already offers clear license plate capture with full HD video, neither Uber nor lift responded to request. For comment from 404 media, the report comes as Breibard News recently documented at least 50 law enforcement officers caught using flock data to stock victims, including online police chief who alleged track this ex-girlfriend. And her teenage daughter plates about 600 times. Vinnie, your thoughts on this? It's, I'm 1,000% against this. And I don't know how, how all the, all Americans are always like, our privacy, this, our privacy, that this should be at the forefront. And I don't know, Connor is going to play this video. Pat, this isn't Waukesha County, Wisconsin. Police boxed in the silver SUV, held two people at gunpoint after a flat camera flagged the vehicle. That's connected to a Milwaukee homicide involving an armed suspect. The body, there was no accident, no traffic and stuff like that. But the traffic was ridiculous. The flock system scanned the license plate, matched it to an alert in the database and police responded, like, potential dangerous guns drawn about the kill this person. The problem was the alert was outdated. The police no longer were looking for the vehicle or the people inside of it, but someone failed to remove it from the system. Okay. Human error in this computer. And the camera did exactly what was designed to do and read the plate, alerted the police on that information. And by the way, this isn't the first, I saw a video, Pat, this lady's at her house. This video here up on the video. Play this video. Look, Pat. >> Gastron, hold over a car, they say, was flagged by flock cameras in connection. >> That lady's car, the bike, out hands open. >> Turns out this was all some sort of mishap with the flock camera systems. In fact, they think that's a murder because the car, the cameras reading the license plate, reporting to the police station, but the police station didn't update it. So they're chasing this person, stops them in the traffic. There's another one where a woman is summoned, a detective shows up to her house and goes, this is you. You're stealing a package and she's sitting there, calm going, no, no, I'm not. He's like, you're lying. This is 100% you. Guess what? It's not her. And then you mentioned there's up to 50 people are using it to spy on people. There's two other videos I sent Connor. That one guy's at a golf course. Look at this. What the hell is this doing at a golf course? You're golfing. Really? You want to track people there? That is unbelievable. At a shooting range and everything. I'm just telling you guys right now and it's being used to stalk people. Let cops do their job. We pay them to do their jobs, given the tools to graph their criminals. I don't want cameras in every corner, Pat. And by the way, this is AI. It tracks movement. If there's a dent on your car, it could flag you and it knows that. Let me tell you what my concern here is. It's less flock is more necks are because a study of 2023 academic study used 24.8 million necks are dash cam images from right share drivers in New York City to identify where police vehicles were located. Researchers detected police vehicles in 233,596 images and use that information to analyze police diploma. Okay. So then here's my question for you, Vinnie. Maybe it's the devil's advocate. Are you okay with ways telling you there's a cop ahead? I don't use ways anymore, but are you okay with the technology that tells you a quarter of a mile ahead of you? There's a there's a cop. Yes. Do you support that? I use it. You don't drive, right? How would you use it? Well, I tell the Uber, Hey, go this way or go that way because it's a supportive of knowing when you're driving fast, you're going 90, you don't drive fast. But I'm saying, let's just say persons driving fast 90 miles an hour. And it says there's a cop ahead of you. Do you support that? I'm kind of indifferent because it doesn't really a lot of people say they support it. It's legal. Well, a lot of times it's like a lot of people like it. That cop was there because they were doing something. Do you know what I'm asking? Okay. Yes. That's a form of it. Yes. That's a form of surveillance. True, but but but but but that is Wazers. Shout out to the Wazers. They're they're reporting on what they're seeing. When it's a surveillance state, I'm 100% against it. Yeah. But civilians are reporting part of it is also technology that that shows what they're doing because this next our company, you know, this isn't a new thing. Like next r has been doing this for a while. The you know, next r has deliberately targeted right share drivers for your in 2021. It partnered with New York City's black car fund to put cameras and thousands of vehicles driven by independent and right share drivers. 2021 is five years ago. So have you ever heard of Nexar? Tom, have you ever heard of Nexar? Nexar. No, but I know about the program and I know why they were doing this. They were putting cameras inside black cars because drivers were getting jumped. They also put cameras back there because drivers were hearing things. And then the police wanted to know, Hey, when the two guys got in the back of your car, one of them had the black backpack. What did you know? I wasn't paying attention. I followed my Uber map that I was supposed to and I dropped them off. Where'd you drop them off? What did you see? So police have been trying to get this. So I did not know about Nexar, the company, but I know I'm very familiar with the program because police wanted the surveillance data pat on people in the back of the car. And you get into an Uber and there'd be a little sign. You are under surveillance. Yeah, because there are female Uber drivers that didn't want to get robbed or jumped as well. Yeah. We'll have ready for this then. This is on these are small cases. Imagine when it's at the hundreds of thousands where detectives are showing up to your house going, this is you, you're under arrest. And then you have to wait to prove yourself. And then what's going to be the next thing is going to be pre-crime. Listen, from the steps that you're taking now, we assume that you're going to probably go and kill this person because you're mad at her because she broke up with you. What is that? I'm not a report. All right. That's my not a report. But I'm just saying, but Tommy, this is the, these are the small steps. And I get, Pat, you made a great point. What are you comfortable with? Um, flock made a deal with ring to get door camera stuff. And then they also made a deal. They actually bought aerodome, which was, um, police drones. They bought the company and they're trying to provide this Amazon ring cameras because Amazon bought ring. Pat, homeowners associations wanted people in their neighborhoods. Everyone police get a ring camera so that we can turn this over to the police. And those of you that have been having high value Amazon packages stolen on your porch. What are those called porch pirates? Says now we can turn this over to the police. So on that side, people go, Hey, that's great. Hey, are you looking forward to AOC being president in 2028 and using data like this? No, to, yeah, I'm not a fan of well, there you go. Well, well, Americans will sell it on. For the sell it on safety and security, sell it online. Yeah. And then bad people use it for this. Yeah. No, this is the palenter argument. I mean, it's definitely giving me George Orwell 1984 vibes. I'll say that. But I'm also like sort of. I understand that this stuff's happening. Everyone's got a cell phone. Everybody's a citizen journalist these days that we're going to nobody wants a surveillance state, but like cameras are everywhere. Ring cameras are everywhere. Think I we have cameras in certain places. Yes, we don't also want to be tracked. So I think there's like a pros and cons thing here. I don't think this is a black or white issue. What will probably happen is like somehow you could register and like opt out of being tracked or something like that because we do believe in, you know, move free of a movement and not having been being tracked. But don't you think this kind of stuff is just inevitable, but it's, it's weird. It's eerie. Look, at Andy Andrew Bustamente, shout out to him. By the way, Andrew Bustamente, um, when we were on, he says, brother, this is what I'm trying to tell you that we are living in surveillance state. And there's nothing you can do about it. They're watching everything that we're doing. And if I'm not mistaken, if I'm not mistaken, that he even recently just announced that he's leaving the state and and going to a complete different place. Uh, yeah, I he's the least discrete spy ever. He's like, Hey, guys, I got a podcast. Can you go to Amazon? When you go to Amazon, by the way, can you go to Amazon and type in Andy Bustamente, I think his book is coming out. You know, you got to read these guys's books to see where they're at with the stuff that they know because he said Pat, this is happening with the you and I right there. If you just click his name, whether you like it or not, yeah, that's the one that's coming out right there. Outsmart everyone, spy kills, spy skills to gain an unfair advantage and work and life in that book. If you want to put the link below to go by the book that's coming out, Andrew Bustamente. But to me, to me, when you think about this, it's here. It's just how much they're going to expand and it will be a political thing that some guys will support it. But it is going to be on the ballot. I think flock will be a topic of discussion in 2028. When we did the governor debate with Paul Renner, Jay Collins and James Fishback, right? You know what they all wanted to talk about? Flock cameras. Yeah, everyone wanted to want to talk about the flock cameras. Yeah. And it was a very, by the way, let me say something about the debate that everybody knows because people keep asking me, Byron Donalds, who is the leading candidate, he's ahead by a mile. I don't know where he's at between 35 to 45%. He said he would do the debate if anybody hits double digit. On multiple reports, Jay Collins and Fishback, whether you like these guys or not or support them or not, they both hit double digits. I've called Byron Collins and I've texted him. I've not heard back. So from my end, because my name is also on the line, I've reached out to try to bring Byron to do the debate. His team hasn't gotten back to me. He hasn't texted me back. He's always been very good at getting back to me. He hasn't done it thus far. And that is their way, maybe, of saying that they don't think they need to do the debate. I do applaud the Collins camp and the Fishback camp that got to double digits. I actually really, really, really liked Paul Renner. I really like what he had to say. Nobody knew who he was and sometimes marketing matters. But Byron Donalds told me he would do it. He hasn't done it. You know, he's probably going to end up being a Florida governor here. And it's not like I want to have a thing with all the Florida governors every single flipping time. This is probably a guide that I'm aligned with a lot of the things he believes in. But we try to schedule the, what is that number show? According to cows. This is not the cows. He's 98% of it. Not the point. That's what I'm saying. There's There's your words. Totally get there's my word. You told me I said that I got your commitment and I think of a lot of this is behind us Even Evan whatever the floor that you got that even the Sanctus is on my side the Sanctus says there needs to be debate Well, we're saying to say the Sanctus says you should debate the Sanctus yet. There needs to be a debate So and and you know, you know some of the people are like well, he's just doing what you know Trump that Trump didn't need to do the debate. No, no, he did and Trump debated multiple times and Trump was the president previously And Donald's has not been the governor, but they're already going to the other side Evan power the Florida. Yeah, what's the last day, by the way? What's the last day if they do decide to have a debate or not? You know when the primary ends for Florida. Can you see what the date is? I think it's August 23rd or oh, it's coming up soon It's coming up here soon, so but he's gonna debate in the general right of course again the Democratic August 18 So there that day cannot come fast enough Or Evan and can't come fast enough with the other guys so they so they avoided the debate so that fishback like kind of called in on Byron show Yeah, he said this is Thomas and he calls it look nobody is doing marketing better than fishback You got to give him credit again, whether you like it. This is not about policies Nobody does better on marketing than fishback. He's doing a great job on the Marketing side and these guys don't want to sit down and talk to him and it is what he gets eyeballs He knows how to get eyes not all eyeballs are good eyeballs It's not at the point. I'm about to debate I'm about to debate especially if you're not a governor yet. I'm about to debate and we're gonna be around for a while If you give me your word keep your word. I don't like it when you give me your word and you don't keep your word Anyways, let me pass on move on to the next story So the next time I want to get into and by the way, he's probably gonna end up being a governor of Florida Yeah, and when he does we're gonna support him Yeah, but if you deal with me long term and you tell me you're gonna do something you don't do it That's a problem with me. I don't like that. That's just not how you do business But let's move forward. Alright Next story. AOC to AOC No one made a bigger claim that they want to run for office and overcome one major objection You know what the objection is? Are we ready for a female president who may be pregnant? Well, she overcame that objection by doing one thing. You know what that was? She froze her eggs and she did it live and here's her doing it So go for it if you want to play this clip for the audience to see. Don't be weird about this. It's too late You know, I know all of you will be Okay, so what is she doing here? She is She's playing for the camera. No, no, she puts the shot. No, I think she's already pregnant. I'm cute. I don't know what I don't know what she's got I'm like the noise out. Oh, that was That wasn't so bad. What is he's gained a lot of weight? She I'm not even being rude. She looks like she's gained a lot of weight Okay You're asked about it. I believe this is this is hormone or medication treatment. This is not GLP She's what he's known. This is hormone and medication treatment. Yes Preparation for having your eggs harvested from your body and frozen. So what do you think the message is? Why be so important that make a video about it? Are you trying to overcome an objection? Is it a marketing stunt? Is it a way of saying hint hint? I'm running in 2028. What do you think the purpose of that video is? I've been my eggs I can be a fool. You frozen your eggs? You didn't I thought you were a positive. No, but the question is when somebody does this When in the history? Have you seen an influence or somebody running for office publicly showed that they're freezing their eggs? What will be the outcome of doing that? I believe This is my speculation that does just Tom talking. I can be a very effective president. You don't have to worry about it If I want to have children, I can have a surrogate do it You know, they can take my husband You know and send them into the bathroom with a plastic cup and then we can take my frozen eggs and we can go You know, fertilize them and then have a surrogate carry. I can be a fully functioning president and still build a family So you also see it as this is my way of saying don't worry about me I'm running for office and I'm not going to be praying that she's trying to take that objection away Okay, and then she was also asking my question about being a DSA or not and Here's her reaction. I think that's the video about her being part of the DSA and she answered in an interesting way Go for it. By the way, just a quick Definitional thing what in your mind is the difference between socialism and communism? I think to me the fundamental differences I mean, there's there's many yeah one prevailing one is democracy and I believe that democratic socialists are fundamentally pro-democracy and we believe in the ballot box we believe in in respecting the the outcomes of elections and governing democratically and ensuring that that the ideas that and policies that are implemented are one through popular vote and popular opinion and so that I think that's why so much of what we focus on is also making sure that we are providing for the majority of americans guaranteeing health care raising wages strengthening the right to a union and And I think that that's at its core what we're about are you still a member of democratic socialists of america of the New York City chapter the New York City chapter not the national What's the difference? So you're still a democratic socialist nice little word salad right there It's we talked about this earlier if you're in the mafia. It doesn't matter if you're in the New York chapter or the Cleveland chapter Like it's just right from by the way and credit where credit is due you've told us about her You warned us about her and listen the smile and the young and this movement say socialist say communist say everything Guys these people these people are for defending the police. They are for abolishing ice They are for opening the border. They absolutely hate you if you're rich and you're making money and from her estimate time The world is going to end in what 12 years from 2000. Well she what are everything you're saying is correct Can you guys have sent you the calcium were you excited and mother I'm not I don't listen besides the time she's She'll probably going to be the nomination for the democratic party But I want people to know this movement that big tent that they keep talking about I'm telling you guys right now Tom at the end of the day the Hassan's the movement the all these guys that whole islam and whatever she can say what she's doing Tom they're opening the doors for all these people and I've said this before the enemies we don't fight in our lifetime time Our children are going to have to fight it your children our and guess what I'm saying when it comes to that my attitude is simple We have to fight it now bring it on now because guess what they're going to have to have their own fight one thousand percent I'm not taking it away, but as long as we I don't want them to inherit the same fight that we are We can't just sit back and be like oh yeah, they're just nobody's sitting back. Nobody's I am absolutely not sitting He's saying you're sitting back. That's what Vinnie's trying to say all right Well then I'm not sitting back. I'm saying is it saying that though the opponent in the general election is very critical And I believe she is going to be that opponent. I agree So we need to be ready to fight her values. That was crazy though. Don't forget that you guys call me crazy I didn't I don't believe it. He don't doesn't believe it. No, no. Pat and I talked over the weekend We've had pointed out that I was Pat your no specific words you guys said your crazy and lost your mind That was Crazy man. I don't pat you know what? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I like you man, but you're crazy. You're crazy We talked this weekend and Pat reminded me he's a Tom You you thought it was speculative and you you weren't there But you at least gave some hearing to him. I never said Pat was crazy. But she's right. So to your point Vinnie We have to get ready 175 million dollars in predictions on cow she go ahead And now she's within a point and a half of Gavin Newsom go ahead Adam who's been caught up. Go ahead I want to tell him to go ahead You're good come okay. I'm actually happy for you. You're good. I feel better now get it out baby Get it out you good go ahead all right good. I'm actually happy for a OC I'm happy for her first Husband Riley Roberts who could potentially be the first husband of the United States I know that Kamala didn't respond her first partner and I'm looking forward to her being pregnant I just I wonder if she wants to be referred to as a mother or if she wants to be known as a birthing person I want to know what happens. Maybe if she has a kid that wants to transition. How would she feel about that? Yes, take as many shots as you want. I'm not taking shots. These are policies. She supports her So don't don't tee on my parade right now. She one of the things she said here was Women can do anything which I agree with the challenge was that they can't do everything So is she gonna be a mom? Is she gonna be the president? Is this guy gonna be the first lady husband? We're gonna see what happens But it's always interesting to see what happens when they dictate everything you should do But when she becomes pregnant and a mother, I wonder if she's gonna want to trans the kids or not Yeah, so we'll in by the way while you were staying on this topic She was also asked about a sam piker because a video went viral this weekend Of the old clip of a sam piker you showed it to me. I think this is the one Vinnie Of him watch this clip of a sam piker go forward We're gonna keep bringing an immigrant to this country on purpose Just so they can fuck your sister and then maybe even your daughter We're gonna destroy the white race bitch. I didn't know this wasn't here to do. I don't know I thought this was a really closet. Wow. I thought it was bleep. So anyways, this is him From in a past when he made this video and so AOC was asked in the same interview What you think about his sam piker? And I don't know did you see that interview where The same guy's asking AOC about his sam piker as well. He's changed. He apologized. Yeah, he apologized for saying American deserve 9/11 so we're supposed to go okay, that's cool as if pat that feeling The picture that he has of the world trade burning and Americans dying and jumping to their death He just because he said he's sorry move on is this it guys move on yeah go forward [BLANK_AUDIO] a person who's been made an issue is Hassan Piker, who obviously endorsed Abdul Al-Sahed in Michigan. You've been on his live stream, you know, at least a few times. He's somebody who said, you know, that America deserved 9/11. Now he backed off from that. - Yes, yes, he's a politician. - But he said a lot of controversial things. Is he somebody that should have a role in the progressive movement going forward? - You know, I think when we look at our elections that have happened, we have lost young people. Much, hey, it was made about the fact that we lost young men in the last election. And many of the same consultants that are ringing their hands today were the same ones talking about how we need to go on Joe Rogan and we need to be not so, you know, willing to engage in cancel culture. And I think that the flip-flopping on this is a tactical debate that they may be having. - You can probably have a few minutes to talk. - But she does say that he changed. She's not the same and all that. - But let me ask you and be honest, as a man. Somebody that said America deserved 9/11. Somebody that said that kill capitalists and let the streets soak in their blood and that refugees who escaped communist regime can suck his, you know what? You want me, as a New Yorker, or as a New Yorker, shame on you to just go, well, he said he's sorry. Give me a freaking break, Pat. This is why Donna Brazil and all these people are like, we have a big tent. This is a party of a big tent because they know that their party's been hijacked because of their laziness and their TDS for 10 years, Pat. And they're done. It's over for them. It's over. She's gonna be the face. The Hassan Pikers are gonna be the grassroots people like the Charlie Corks and guess what? Just because they said they're sorry, they're all gonna go, oh, it's okay. It's okay. It's not okay, okay? He's not got that guy. That guy hates America. He says he's unpeach-erotic. He loves dresses up like Mao Zedong, like this. - Best thing you lose is for her to accept Hassan Pikers. - She's good. - The best thing that can happen for you is that left receives him. - I hope so. - The best thing that can happen. I hope they all receive him. I hope they all support. I hope he campaigns with them. I hope he goes and campaigns with them because you have to realize that messaging of what he says. One is a terrible example to America and most people are not there with them. Most people are common sense to youth is like, look, just allow me to have a life by a house, have kids and afford to be able to build my own family. Most people don't have that kind of hate in their bellies. They don't, the guy the way he speaks, he speaks purely the hate language. It's purely the hate language and it's very attractive to who. There's a video that's gone viral that Anthony asked me a question of this. I never know what Anthony's gonna ask me when I walk in. He says, hey, can you react to this video? What's the video? This video is a video of a guy that used to be in PHP and he says that if a person walked out of your meeting that you would lock the door, I said, yeah, I would. So tell me why you would do that 'cause I don't want you to distract me. By the way, ask people that were at the vault conference early on, see what they would tell you. You've been to the vault conference early, I'm gonna tell you that. - You've got a lateral inspection. - If you walked out, I'm like, dude, wait till the next break to walk back in because everybody would do that as a distraction. So even one guy in a middle of the meeting, what do I do? I said, hey guy, listen, I go up to him. Man, this is a waste of my time and his business partners like, dude, we're here, we need to take our business to the next level. This is a waste of my time. You know how many deals I could be doing right now? If I was back at home, I said, say you realize if you talk like that, if you're not here, there's a business room without you. And I said, you don't own your business. Your business owns you and he kept bitching to his partner. Finally, I said, look, I'm willing to give you twice the amount of money you invested to buy ticket you as long as you leave within the next minute. It was like $6,000. - He took it. - I said, you have 60 seconds. He took it. Don't you outside tell him, I'm gonna text my guys, they're gonna pay twice the money. He bought a $3,000 ticket. I gave him $6,000 just to leave. Those are the standards. But guess what's a popular video to make? Well, you know, these guys locked the doors and on. Yeah, we do. These are standards that we have, right? So Hassan's message is gonna resonate with the people that also hate and are rage and anger. It does. How big is that population? Is it people that want to burn down America and rebuild it? Hell no. It's a small percentage. Let them have it. Let them have that community and see if that message is gonna resonate with independent voters that you gotta win over. It's not going to. Independent voters are not gonna go that way. - In the general election. Here's how I look at it. Can I go? - Yeah. - If any touch on this. - The left. - But I wanna say a part that Trump is doing that it's a mistake. I wanna get into this. I wanna do something that the president's doing that I think it's a mistake. And I know I wanna get people, it's like, you know what's a bad thing about being in a position that I am and we are? How do I describe this? We don't have a place. I don't know how this makes sense. Like, the moment you know it's Jews are like, oh, you know, P.B.D. podcasts. And it's like, I don't like what he's said over there. So, oh, Trump, there's, why would he criticize the president? Oh, he doesn't defend the president. I was just, every week we're like losing people. Let me tell you, Bill Maher said something here that I agree with, that I think the president's making a mistake with. I don't think we should go into this area. If you got to Bill Maher clip. This is socialism. Bill Maher accuses Trump of going further, left and thems. I said this a few months ago when they invested into, Intel, and said a percentage of it is the U.S. government. I don't know what the number was. 50 billion dollars or 15 billion dollars. Tom and I both agreed on this. Do you have the video clip on this? There's a video clip of Bill Maher saying this. I don't think we need to go into investing into companies. I don't think that's socialism. You're making it easy. So even though a person who's a great salesperson that can overcome any objection like the president can, he'll be able to convince his party and say, "Yeah, we're making, look how much money "we may go into Intel. "Look how much money we may be investing into in video. "Look how much money we made. "We're making money for you. "We're making money for you." I get it. But that's the socialist argument, nationalizing. Then they're gonna be like, well, here, let me play the clip. This is what your president said. What's the difference? And then you're gonna go this much, but you know how far they're gonna go. They're gonna go this much. Then what do you do? So I'm not worried about a capital list choosing to invest into companies because you're a capitalist. I'm concerned when a socialist gets in charge which they eventually will. And then what are they gonna be doing? Hey, let's extend this. What did they say? Give them a little bit. Go all the other day. I watch, prepare for the conversation. I watch this interview with what he called it, with Pierce Morgan, 30 days after Sandy Hook happened and they're there and Ben was calling up Pierce Morgan. I don't know if you guys remember that interview. He says, "Do you realize of all these mass shootings, "how many of them use AK-47?" And Ben says, "Do you realize of all the people "that were shot, the percentage that were by this, "it's guns, why don't you go bang guns? "Go ahead Pierce, why don't you bang guns "if you really wanna protect everybody?" And Pierce was stuck. He was cornered. And what is he trying to say? You give them a little bit, they're gonna take a lot of it. If we're giving them an ounce of them being able to play the socialism card, they're gonna go full on, you know what? You can't be making policies just based on you being president for the rest of your life. That's not how America runs. The way America goes is very different. It's very, very different. You know, is this the one? This is the one, play this clip. Go for it. - Interesting, the wrinkle in this story, because now that they're communist, there's an opening for socialism. And you know who's filling it? Donald Trump, Donald Trump. How else do you explain a 9.9 stake in Intel? - Mistake. - By the government. - If that's not socialism, NVIDIA. We took 15% cost when we let them sell chips to China. Nippon steel, that's merged with the US steel. We have a golden share. We basically run their boardroom now. And you know this is socialism, I think, because Bernie Sanders agrees with it all. He wants to do it with the AI companies. - The free market is dead. They have decided that the government wants to control 30 different companies and Intel alone, which was a loser because of NVIDIA. They have, they basically own 9.9% of that company. And that's a lot. And President Trump, after they invested in this company, he then went on to buy stocks in NVIDIA, which shot up 200%. - Okay, so he actually made a ton of money on this. His government created a floor on a stock. - You can pause it. - By the way, as a guy that voted for Trump three times, this is a mistake. We can't do this. Period. As a guy that voted for Trump three times, we cannot do this. Because you know, it's crazy. Like the company I just left. My job, you know, when we went to this last conference, I told my guys, don't make it about me. Don't make a whole video as a founder, Patrick, David, I don't want any attention. I want to come give a simple message and leave. Tom, how many times did I say that to everybody? - You said it weekly for the past year. - Literally. - I talked about it. - I don't want anything. I want all the attention to go to Brian Adams. I want all the attention to go to an integrity. I want all the attention to go to the leader's heart. All our guys are growing right now. I don't want any attention. Why? Because I want the business to be healthy after we leave, right? Okay. And you can't just think of how you can control these contracts within video and until while you're president. You have to think about how it's gonna happen when the next political party comes in charge. And what do they do with that? Do they use it? I don't think it's a good move. I think we're making a mistake and we're just feeding into the socialism argument. That, by the way, if I may or see, if I'm any of these guys, you know what I'm gonna use? Guess what I'm gonna use? - That, this. - I'm gonna use that all. argument. Of course. You can't give it to him. You look like you want to say something. Well, I wanted to weigh in on this. I agree mostly with you because I agree mostly with the position of Donald Trump, but here's what I've learned in politics. I'm never going to agree with anybody 100%. So I'm solving for 80. You know, the whole 80/20 rule per 80 principle, the Reagan quote, someone that you agree with 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% enemy. Yeah, there's things I disagree with Trump. Look, let's use Charlie Kirk and Hassan Piker as an example. I think Hassan Piker is the Charlie Kirk of the DSA left. And you could you could put up Charlie's words. You may agree with them. You may disagree with them. I agreed with most of what Charlie said, but not everything. But when it comes to Hassan Piker, I mean, how many people agree with his greatest hits? I do not support the United States of America, says Hassan Piker. America deserves 9/11. My favorite flag is Hezbollah. I don't have any patriotism in my heart. If that's what you agree with, vote for that. I just think the average American is going to look at this and be like, this is absurd. I don't agree with everything Trump's doing, but I agree with nothing that Hassan Piker's doing. So as far as the economic thing where I actually need some clarity is, is there a difference between a stake that they said or a partnering or an investing versus what the socialist communist want to do, which is seizing the means of production. No, no, you can't. It was a 100% and 5% and that's kind of what I'm getting at with the Charlie Kirk Piker thing. I agree with Charlie Kirk 80, 90% of the time. I agree with Hassan Piker. It doesn't matter. That's 0% of how life works. It's a binary option. That's not how life works. We can sit there and say this is not good. And a lot of times when you think, you know, it's like, well, I can do anything and get away with it. You can't. Nobody can. Maybe four, three months, maybe four, six months, maybe four, two months where you are so untouchable and you're in same status. Look what Iran's done. What does Iran were doing so far politically on every side of the Republican political party? Are they 100% supportive of it? No. What's happening? So this, this, nobody is a profit forever and just loved and admired. Nobody is. Nobody is. I went to my insurance conference. My own guys didn't come and say, hello to me. These are guys that have helped become deck of millionaires. They don't want to come and greet me. One of them. Two of them. How is that even possible? It happens. They forget. From stage, I said something. One guy's like, I don't remember. Of course you don't remember. You forgot a lot of things that when you were only broke, going bankrupt, going through all the issues, one guy had your back the entire time. People forget that's normal when it happens. You hope it doesn't happen. But it happens. But it happens. But you have to make the right decisions for the long term. Not just for the old people that were there. You have to make it good for the new people that their lives are depending on you. 10, 20, 30 years from now that are the younger people coming up that want to have wife, kids, buy a house, buy a car, have their dreams become a reality. Don't want me to forget about those guys? Forget about it. I see what you're saying. Forget about it. Each finale. Forget about it. You can't, you can't, you've got to think about it. As much as you love them, you've got to forget about it and move on. Let me see if I have another story to get into or no. I think we're over time to attend. Let me do this last story. I don't even know if we have time for that. Let me see if we got to get ready. We got to go to a WNBA game later. We got to hurry. Let me a second to see if I can hit any of these stories. Is there anything that you guys are thinking that I missed? I think I got all of them. I think we're good. We drove it. We'll roll wrap it up. Great podcast gang for those of you guys that are in here with us again for the vault conference. If tickets are going left and right right now, especially that's last week, especially last two days. I can't tell you why if you haven't, we'd love to see you guys are especially those of you guys conservative values. You believe the future looks bright. You run a business. You want to find a way to take your life to the next level and be around a community of others where you build relationships together. You don't want to miss the vault conference. Vault 2026. Go to vault2026.com. Again, Vault 2026 and last but not least, Tom has a special message and a gift to somebody you love the most because something very special happened today. Tom, tell us. I have the 25th annual one-year contract with my wife for new. It's my 24th year wedding anniversary. The BizDoc babe, Kim, I love you so much. Thank you for watching. She watches all these. She listens to it. She's in getting her classroom ready right now and she'll be listening to this. So I love you, honey. Thank you so much 24 years and I have a one-year contract for this year for the 25th and I so appreciate it. Congratulations to both of you. If you're a husband and wife married and you want to know how they're doing it, both of them are on Menec. Give them a congratulations and ask them a question on marital advice. Tom Ellsworth is on Menec and his wife is also on Menec, who's been a teacher for 30 years can give great counsel. Send them a congratulations. They're God bless everybody. Take care. Bye-bye-bye.