Wim Hof: They’re Lying To You About Disease & Inflammation!

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He's able to withstand extreme cold and even ran to the top of Everest in his underwear. He's proven we're all capable of pushing our minds and bodies way past what was thought possible. They call me the ice man. What is the purpose of living? Happiness, strength and health. Rest is bulge. But this society is sick and we cannot deal with stress. It drains us. But if we listen to our body we can change that through silence. So what is the first step? Reading our silence. It's about handling our emotionally feel that we are on top of it. No matter what, but we have never learned in our schooling how to do it. Next through the power of the mind, we learn to make our bad feelings disease go away. You were injected with E. coli. You had no negative immune response. You took volunteers, trained them on your techniques. And when they were injected their responses were similar to your own. What's all possible? How do you do that? First, we have to. When was there ever a time where the pain was even too much for you? My wife took her own life. And who? That led to depression. And I was not able to do anything. There's so many people that are going through different forms of grief. What would you say to those people? The only way to break that is. When? Yes. What is your mission? My mission is to bring love and power. Very simple. But then through sounds. So there is no speculation about it. In all this song she hear, "Love is the greatest power!" And all that, you know? But we should be able to feel it. And because we could not feel that anymore to be. To consume through consumerism, through everyday very hectic, stressful lives, we get confused in it all. We are depleted in our energy. Our energy is being drained through a system that is unequally being divided in its wealth. And therefore people are not able to use their energy to bring up the right values back in the family. Which is patience, which is empathy, creativity, love, composed by happiness, strength and health. So because there is confusion in that area, that's why I thought, "Hey, I'm going to start somewhere here and now. I'm going to change the world." And I see the wars, I see unhappiness, I see depression, I see pollution, I see abuse, I see all that. And people think that is normal. And we have to invite to those realities. And I think, no, it's sick. And what I'm going to do about it, I'm going to start looking, searching inside. Because I think every mother in the world should be able to bring happiness, strength and health to their children. And keep it there. So that's my mission to bring it. And because nobody is listening to a person like me saying that from the roof, "We'll get you with love is the power and all that." That's why I go through science. But first I went into the cold. And the cold I met because intuitively I felt, "Hey, the cold is able to bring down my thinking." What is it about the nature of society? When you look out on society at the moment, that makes you sad or concerned. What is it about the way we live, the way we've built this thing called society? So society is a very complex, opportunistic way through time. Nobody is able to trace down where the problem is. It's too complex, too confused now. And there I say, "Hey, okay, this look at the establishment, is this perfect? Is this paradise? No, it's nothing wrong with our knowledge, understanding and intelligence, but the way we use it, we have to change our consciousness. And our consciousness is our way to perceive. It's what we see and what we are able to deal with. And we cannot deal with the stress coming in our lives. It consumes us. It drains us. And there we are. And look what we can do. We can go to the moon. We can go to Mars. We can build bridges so we can create AI. All those things. But we cannot create happiness, strength and health. We set, so let's stop massively in the world and elevate our consciousness to being good to each other, not to be competitive. If I'm an individual listening to this and I follow your methods, what can you promise me will be the outcome on my day-to-day life? A lot more energy? That's number one, two. You will feel just our life. It's life. To love life as it is. Pure. No thoughts. No confusion. It's not there. Just feel alive. When you arise from the bed, you feel, okay. This is a new day. I'm going to change the world today because I feel so good. And even though I'm not fully on right now, I know it's coming. And I want it. I want it so much. You know what? It's called purpose. And that purpose, I'm living it. And that purpose is stronger than my thinking. And this society is not driven to fulfill each and every once purpose. It's to have the society maintained. The system maintained, controlled by a couple of people. All the energy for what? Where is the happiness? Where is the strength? Where is the health? Every day when I live my purpose, and I want to change the world, I want to bring love and power. And I'm doing that with mathematical precision, with the mission impossible. Things, I found, which I tested in scientific comparative studies, showing that suddenly we have so much more control. Instead of being controlled by the system, pressing our purpose, our lives energy, and to connect with that purpose. It's like love. When you feel love for your woman, for your love, for your sex, this, this. You don't think that is that power. And that power you should be able to live and to feel for life, itself, every day. But we are blocked too much. Going into the cold brings you out of this thinking brain. It brings you directly into the deepest part of the brain. Because you are doing it, going into the cold, then it needs to be switched on, the deepest part of the brain, survival part, the brain stem, and to battle the danger of the cold. But still, once it's there, and you are doing it, you are connecting. Is that part of what you're saying? The way that we live our lives is a little bit too comfortable. So we're not reaching those deeper levels of our brain. We're kind of, and we are optimizing discomfort out of our lives in every chance we get. - Yes. - From every, I got here today in a nice warm car. I arrived in a nice warm building. I had a nice warm shower. - Well, very soon you will be in the ice bath with me. (laughing) It's gonna be nice, you know? It's gonna be nice. But the difference is we choose. If we go to the cold and the cold will not come to us. We tackle the problem before it arises within us. With the cold, which is a very negative, aggressive power inflicted upon our bodies. It's an impact. - When you say if we go to the cold before the cold comes to us, is that a metaphor for life? - Yes. - Okay, you mean we go, we put ourselves in discomfort and if we don't, then our lives will be met with discomfort. - Yes. - And then we are not prepared. - Yeah. - And a lot of people are maybe okay with this in this system, but so many more people are not okay with this. And for those we stand up. We who have the wealth of being and feeling okay, great, that's wealth. We should be able to stand up for those who cannot. - When, when did this start? When did this start feel? Because a lot of people that I meet on this show, you know, their early journeys or the sort of pivotal moments in their lives can be traced back to maybe when they were 12 or 13. But your journey starts even earlier. The first domino that fell seems to fall when your mother was giving birth to you. - Oh yes. Subconsciously, it started at my birth. My mother told me, I'm one of the twins unexpected, back then. We had no echo, graphics and all these tools. - So they didn't know that there was another twin baby back? - Exactly. And so I was almost born too late. They discovered me almost too late. And so I came out while they were pushing the bet with my mother to the operation room in the hallway, like purple, because almost suffricated coming out in the cold of the hole. Very traumatized. It started over there. It started with a trauma. And let me tell you, I became a seeker because of that trauma. People become seekers. If they have deep traumas, they always will seek compensation. Always try to seek relief in one way or in another. Not directly to the trauma, but indirectly bypassing it. And they don't know. - Just want to make sure I'm super clear on this. Your mother had two identical twin boys. And the doctors only knew that one baby was there. So when they finished delivering your brother, your identical twin brother, they were moving on with the procedure. And then at the last minute, while they were in the hallway, they discovered there was another baby in there. And that other baby yourself was at risk. And from that whole sort of traumatic experience, you feel that that sort of embodied a trauma which you've turned you into a seeker, looking for answers on the universe rejecting the conventional thinking. And that takes us all the way through this sort of very curious childhood up to the point you described at 17 years old, where you're stood in Amsterdam by a very, very cold lake. And you feel cold to jump into that lake. - Yes. Yes. Cold and cold. But I have no words to describe it because you are led by intuition. You are led by the way the body is able to solve whatever is inside because you cannot relate by thinking what is going on because I was a baby back then. But it always blocked me. It made me a seeker. And at that moment when I went in, I just followed to intuition. It's a feeling. And I felt, this is it. This is it. What I've always been trying to find as a seeker. My intuition had let me to go into that water to meet my trauma. And that is activating a innate capacity of ours to deal and to process whatever is going on in the deepest of the brain, in the deepest store to up a tissue where it's trauma present which we haven't learned how to access. That first time you got in the cold water. Yeah. Did you react like I react when I get in the cold water now? Did you? I know. Absolutely not. I was surprising. And you will go with me later. You will not go the way you just expressed. Okay. We will go like you will smile beautifully like you do right now. And go with me. And there is a moment that you will feel a little bit of, but I'm there. We are there. You're my brother. I'm your uncle. I'm your family. I want you to feel good. I want you to, I'm here to make you strong. Strong. It means to stay in the eye of the hurricane when it is, when the stress is most, when you first got into the cold water, you said it seemed to answer a lot of your spiritual questions. Oh, yeah. Oh. What spiritual questions did getting in the cold water that first time answered? All what has been propagated by all the religions, all the ascetic disciplines and doctrines, that Nirvana, Enlightenment, Kee, Chi, Prima, whatever they call it, in name, that is just our mind. Let's feel strong. Let's be strong. Let's be healthy. Let's be happy. Just unconditionally. That's what I felt at that moment. This is it. It was not words that came to me. It was a pure opening of my feeling being uninterrupted by thinking. For many, many years, you lived as a squatter. Was it from 17 to sort of 20, sort of mid 20s that you lived as a squatter? Eight years. You were best time of my life. Having no money whatsoever. I was in society living outside of society. I had no money. I lived off the scraps of the marketplace. And I loved it. It was a party time. It was feast every day with all these other people who were free thinkers. Don't think at time. Have a sabbatical. A sabbatical way, the system maintains itself through paradigm, through a certain way of thinking. If you just leave it at a time, you start to think thoughts and emotions are able to emerge without this helmet on, this heavy helmet, which is interrupting your flow, your being, your expression. And then you cannot trust that expression. You are lost. You're getting lost of who you are. There I was able to free think without even thinking about it. I played the guitar in the hallways. I did yoga all these potions in the courtyard, naked. In the winter time, I became so strong. If you only let the life force express itself, you become so strong. What is the life force? Anybody that doesn't know? Anybody has it. Like here and right now. If I, like I was talking before, we entered into this podcast. 76 years old this man was. And he was suffering from Lyme's disease. And he wanted to climb the Kilimanjaro in records time without having any experience in climbing. 76 years old. Lyme's disease. He's suffering. With that condition, doing a mountain which normally is done between five and nine days, fully dressed, because up there at six hours at mid is really cold. And there is less than half the oxygen. So the cold comes even harder in. And there I saw life force. His life force was so determined to climb with me in impossible physiologically impossible task. Because normally between five to nine days, he did it at 31 hours, 76 years old. What else is that than a life force you never expected it to be, just to take on the challenge? He had a deeper feeling within himself. According to science, and I feel something that is your life force talking to you, which wants to free itself. He was suffering from Lyme's disease. He was in the system always abiding to everything and suddenly with an out in munis order, he could not control at all. And there he was. So he felt the same thing as I felt when I was 17 going into the cold. He came with me and he climbed to Kilmajaro in 31 hours, not five to nine days, 31 hours. So that is the life force. Our life force is capable of so much more than we are used to. Why don't we know that? Why don't we believe that? Why don't we live our lives with the, you know, the, the, the opinion that we can climb the mountain? Sure. Because we are led to believe we have to serve into systems that are not necessarily serving our soul. And they're so massively, psychologically overwhelming the system, the schooling system, etc. It's so overwhelming that we have no way to escape from this narrowing consciousness where we got in. We think "Karious, make us happy, cast make us happy. Money makes us happy. Fame and name and all makes us happy." I was the happiest guy when I was in the squat having nothing. You were effectively homeless living just outside. Yeah. Yeah. A squat is a place where you have electricity and that's it. And you've got to pay for the heater. So you had to find ways to pay, say, what is it? 70 pounds a month. And you were living with lots of people when you were squatting? Yeah. Wow. Was an amazing. I mean, we don't need so much, but it has been propagated that we need a house. Everybody needs a mortgage. And you've got to serve that mortgage. You got to go to 9 to 5. And we become slaves. Slaves of the system that is in the end creating quite some stress. And we are only able to survive. Not to express ourselves creatively as who we are and what we are for real. What's a realistic alternative when I lived in that society. First, I lived outside through living in a squat. That was enough for me to have my own identity connected in my thinking, my mind. And then I went into society. It was horrible time because suddenly I had to live in a flat with kids and my wife deteriorated mentally and she took her own life in 95 and she jumped from eight stories down. That was the life I was in and society just keeps on going like a train. It has no emotion. It has no feeling. When on that, you are 22 years old. You are full in love with a woman you describe as the love of your life. Oh, that's her. Yes. Olaia. Look at this. Oh, yes, we told. Amazing. So very expressive, very talkative to everybody. Very open. And then into the shadows of her own mind and dysfunctioning of brain functioning and that led to her depression and then becoming manic and then skis of friendlier. Then worse, got worse and worse and worse. We were 15 years together. You met her in a squat house. In the squat house, yes. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. So innocent. All very innocent. And I called her Butterfly, Mariposa in Spanish and Butterfly because she was everywhere. Very light being. Did I fell in love or rose in love? I think the last one. Only the way her mind got disturbed through this, yeah, is it society? Is it a pressure? Is it a career? Is it what is it? It demand? Because this was a light being of light. You met her in that squat house. You had two children together. Yes. In the squat. And perfectly okay. And great. And great. Beautiful. Those children are right now working with me. We got an international worldwide company. Yeah. When did you realize that her mental health was deteriorating? Who? Yeah. Probably too late. It was a decreasing kind of process in her where she was losing control. And I had no real means to take care of that. She went back to a pamploni. She was Spanish from origin. And she was there with her family. She would have been for months and with her family and then come back and being mother for two days and then suddenly collapse and being bad and being very down again. And yeah, like a bird, a burdensome, but we loved her of course. We are trying to survive. Only after the fourth child she wanted another child, but I said no, you have to become better. You have to become healthy. And she said to her, you are bested. That was one month before she took her own life. She kissed her. I was working as a mountain guide in the Pyrenees to get some money. And I also loved it. I loved nature. But then she kissed her. The kids could buy before jumping down or letting go from eighth story. She jumped off an eighth story building. Yes. I mean, it almost takes a lot of courage to do that too. You must be very desperate if you do a thing like that. And that is something unovercomable. The part of me when I was 12, the wilderness sick depressed, the darkness, the wars, the pollution, etc., all that. I'm going to do something about it at that moment. I was not able to do anything. So it turned into a defeat. It turned into being me hopeless. It turned into me into being depressed. But I had no time to be depressed. I had to take care of four children on my own with almost no money. So that's actually where the cold came in, not like a negative power. The cold is stronger than your mind. It's than your thinking. It makes you the depth of your brain at work. And the depth of your brain is the place, the pharmacy. It's the pharmacy, the healer of our being, which we disconnected from so much because we go for pills, medicines, we go to doctor. If something happens to us, we don't go to ourselves. I can't imagine the pain. I can't imagine the pain of having the love of my life. A deteriorate, have four kids with me. But they don't take our own life. Grief. Oh yes. Grief had no space. Yes. The agonizing thinking, all day long, has its way to burden a person. Me. And the only way to break that was going into icy water. That was, yeah, I mean, at that moment, you're just surviving. And that gives you a little opening of this agonizing thinking. It's painful. And at that moment, you're so overwhelmed by all that, that you, now I can talk about it. But back then, I was in the middle of it. Do you remember where you were when you got that phone call? Yes. Exactly. And I was doing groups of people in the mountains. So back then, you had these phone booths. On the camping, on the camping where we slapped and with the group. And there I got this phone call of her brother calling me. And yeah, it is not only shocking, you don't know what to say. You cannot even cry. The grief comes later. The thinking about it, the being able to contemplate about it and have feelings about it comes only later. I cried when I was with her father, with her father over her dead body. Then we cried together. Then you can relate, you can let go. It happens. You're not thinking about it, it happens. So that's the way it evolves. And then, in the back of my head, of course, my four children, it took a burden on us, it took a burden, an inexplicable burden. It changed us, it traumatized us in the depth, and that made us separate at a certain moment later or on in life. Now we are all together and it's amazing. The chemistry is better than ever before. And she, the mother, she is like an angel now. She's looking over our shoulders and we talk about it. We say, yeah, that it is going so well with us, it's because she is back. (singing in foreign language) (crowd cheering) It's with us. We feel it. When you had that conversation with your four children, their mother was gone. They were between seven and 12 years old. Yes. How do you have a conversation with a seven-year-old or a 12-year-old about their mother not being here anymore? Exactly. That way. I said, she is gone. Her body is gone. I didn't say she was dead. She is no longer with us. That's what I said. And they got it. We are here. We are together. We are going to find life with us. Mommy is gone. Yet also she is here. I worked. I worked. I mean, we went on. Did they ask questions? Of course. Of course. Many questions. But in the end, the questions were not as strong as our being during a life being together. It's there where I found the cold to give me all the energy to create a good atmosphere at home. The nest, warmth, playfulness, being there, light, not heavy. What is that first step? Because there are so many people that are going through different forms of grief or they have that trauma that you've described that goes back a long way. If they're listening to this now and they've stumbled this far into the conversation and they're thinking, "I'm so far away from that whim. I'm so far away. I've got my shirt and tie on. I'm in this city. I know I'm unhappy. I can feel it in my bones, but I know I know by the way. What is the first step?" Absolutely the breathing exercises. These breathing exercises in 2014 were capable to show just like scientifically, the hormonally looking at the nervous system. The depth which we entered with these breathing exercises in this comparative study showed that we were able to tap into the autonomic nervous system and innate immune system which was considered to be impossible in science. And now it is there. It's not only the autonomic nervous system and the innate immune system. It's also the ability naturally to solve what is deeply stored up in our tissue which could not be processed in the moment when it happened. Trauma. William, I've got some of those studies in front of me. I read through all of them ahead of our conversation and they are quite frankly remarkable. They're quite frankly remarkable. They are peer reviewed studies that have been published, went through very sort of scientifically rigorous processes to make sure that they were valid. And in these studies we see breakthroughs that I think in the past people thought were impossible. But if we just focus in then on that breathing 'cause you described that as the first step, if I have never breathed in my life, I've never done it, I've never heard about it, I'm skeptical to it. I think breathing is just something we don't think about. What do you mean by breathing? And what kind of breathing? And can you explain to me like I'm an idiot? What it's doing? Yeah, what it is doing. For example, I'm now busy with cardiologists and they saw in heart films that if you stop breathing after exhalation for one and a half minute, five times more blood flows into the brain and to the heart. This is never been shown. And now it has been shown through these breathing techniques. I mean, this really goes so deep. We are able to make these, through these breathing techniques change our blood's chemistry. Bring up the pH levels way up by which the breathing trigger is not happening because it's depending on the CO2 level in our blood. And we breathe. Like 30 times like this, you become a little bit wujee, a little bit dizzy. Why? Because the CO2 levels go way down. You blow it off carbon dioxide. Have we forgotten how to breathe like that? Oh, yes. Is that the natural way of breathing? No, not exactly. Okay. What is exactly is that we have forgotten to feel deep emotions to be in connection with danger. Dangerous, the deep emotion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All you call it. It's deep. We avoid these emotions. But they are, we are built to receive it, to express it. And with that, it comes alive, the deeper mechanisms in our body. And if that long term is not exercised, those deeper mechanisms and among that is not only the emotion, it's also the immune system. It becomes weaker. We become more flaccid. We become insensitive. Look at the insensitivity in our society. Gas eyes happening. Yeah, protest here, so we should stop that shit. We should stop those wars because kids, little kids, are here, jeopardized. And we cannot even feel it anymore. You know, that this insensitivity in us is a plague. It's a plague because we serve a system that runs well on people being obedient and being flasret, not really sensitive. Because if you are really sensitive, you don't go to a slave job every day and come back stressed. And the other day, you do it again, and again, and again, and again, and again. What we should do within ourselves is learning how to connect into the depth. And this is what I give through the cold. We bring these deeper emotions alive. And then you will not abide to that what makes you weak. Well, do that, what kills your purpose. We got to stand up as humanity more now than ever. And here we are. And Wim, how do you do that? Very simple. Do this breathing techniques. Do it on your bed, on a sofa, or very controlled, because you will go past your conditioned mind and body. The shallow breathing we do, we say that is breathing. That's not breathing. That is automatic reflex of your body, doing something. And there it is. Now you take over consciously, you start to breathe deeper. You go past these patterns depicted by a conditioned body. And that conditioning is only serving the system, but not necessarily you. I want you to take over the stairwell. I want you to be conscious. And then go with that conscious into deeper breathing, break the patterns of your conditioning. And suddenly your deeper traumas, your deeper [BLANK_AUDIO] are able to come to the surface, being stored up, being stashed away forever. And that is what is happening in the first session we do. I can promise any person who is doing it will encounter such a tremendous experience of himself from the depth coming to the surface. And that's only the depth coming to the surface. That's all. And it's beautiful. I'm so intrigued as to how that happens. So because I've had lots of friends that are very focused on breathing, using your techniques. I told you before we started recording my partner runs a breathwork studio called Bali Breathwork, where she has committed her life to using the breath to heal people. But I'd like someone to explain to me, you know, how, if I take hold of the steering wheel, and I go past those sort of unconscious breathing patterns, why does that unlock trauma? Because when I go to my, when I have been to my partner's breathwork sessions when they end, people are talking about very deep forms of trauma that they've suddenly encountered. And I'm wondering, how is the breath doing that? How is the breath unlocking that stuff? What is, where is it hidden? You know, I don't understand the breath's connection to our trauma. So traumas are a stored up chemistry. It's unprocessed. It's when experience happens and you cannot deal with it. You can't process it. You don't understand. It's being stashed away and it becomes biochemical stored up capacity of the body is simply there in our deeper tissue. But our conditioned mind and body is not able to get into that depth. Just by thinking. Yes. But that, we are thinking too much. And we know something is wrong inside, but we cannot connect with that. Now, if we change the patterns, we normally go into with our breathing and thinking, which goes bad, which controls our heart. It's conditioning. If we are into that conditioning and we start simply and that makes it so beautiful that it is so simple. And how it then suddenly is able to get into this stored, to regulate our mood in the depth is by a cannabinoid receptors. The last study we did is a landmark study. Landmark study done by Professor Dvibov Divakar in Detroit. And it shows that the cannabinoid receptors are a part of the salient network. The salient network is that what makes all the networks in the brain work together. And with that, we get a hold of areas we normally don't have connection to. So what a breathing does in the depth is activating the connectors in the body called cannabinoid receptors, by which deeper realities of our physiology open up. And that is a natural thing to happen when we are in peace no longer in the trauma, in the accident. No, now we are in peace, now we should be able to work out what has been stored up. That is a natural capacity of ours to do that, but we have never learned in our society, in our schooling, how to do your. And not even in psychiatry, they give you pills and they give you medicines. And it makes a lot of money, but it doesn't solve the problem. People become catatonic. And they are alive too, after treatment in psychiatry the first work she became her eyes like. Because zombie. Yeah, a zombie. This is a blast for me. This is scandalous in psychiatry that they keep on doing that. Now I get a lot of psychiatrists, cognitive psychologists or cognitive therapies. And they say, when the cognitive therapies have no solution anymore, we do breathing. And it just brings solution. So it is simple, so effective, but it doesn't make money. It makes people understand, I feel so much better, how is that possible? And that simply that, how it works, we just did the landmark study with the compelling findings that we actually found in the reception, in the receptor focus, suddenly being able to regulate our mood, emotion, much better. So we are able to listen to our body and we feel bad, we can change that. We found now the key, how to do that. First of all, you do the breathing. Of course, cold training, not too much, never too much. Just relax. We are very capable to even take like Patrice Evra, who was completely hating it because of us when he was young. He got it as a punishment. You have to take it nice and good and open up to the natural capacity to take it on. He was the best, absolute best, taken on icy water for 16 minutes. He was in and he wanted to stay there in. And BBC was like, oh no, this is too dangerous. Please come out. Yeah, you have no, you have to come out, Patrice. Okay, okay. And he was just walking out and you know what? I felt his skin. He was not even cold. So just for context. I was like, oh, that's that power. It's so simple. For people that don't know, Patrice is a good friend of mine. Patrice Evra, he's been on this podcast before. And he told me that WIMS techniques have really changed his life, especially his relationship with cold water. He was like me. He told himself that because of his, I don't know, his race where he came from, his DNA, he wasn't able to spend time in cold water. But I think what he discovered through WIM was that that was actually a trauma. His father used cold water as a punishment. So he had this trauma with cold water and after doing your program and spending time with you, he was the very, very best at staying in cold water. And when I was with him recently. He was amazing. He jumped in that cold water without flinching, you know. And he told me that throughout his entire Manchester United playing career, he was always the one that never got into the, the cold recovery plunge pools at Manchester United after the game. He always avoided it. And he just wishes, he wishes that he knew what he knows now about the power of cold water, because then he would have been able to recover better as a player. That's what he told me. I have the, I have the study here in front of me that you described there. I think it's the Michigan Brain of a body study. That was the first study and then came a second study. The first study I was compared to 74 test subjects, people. And they were all going into the, having a perfusion vest. What has been used in when firefighters go into the work, they have a cold water going through a perfusion vest full of tubes. So it's a vest where they pump cold water? Yes. Okay. So they are able to endure the heat of the fire, that to fight the fire. So they took that into body scans, FMRI scans, and pumped cold water into these vests, while the people were motionless in these FMRIs. And so every time when the cold water was pumped in, the bodies skin temperature would go down. And then warmed up again, skin temperature going up. And that correlates in the brain with stress. And those stress mechanisms, then when the cold is being pumped in, is very clearly seen on the monitor of these people who connected to people with electrodes. And you could see it on the monitor the way the brain was being activated. Oh, these are the stress mechanisms. And now is the warmth, now is the areas of well-being of the brain activated in solar and the paryacoductal gray. Well, whatever the names, I call it the positive and the negative registration of stress and/or well-being. Those parts, and nobody could change that. What if we could make the feeling well part of the brain at work when the stress comes in? So what if we could feel, choose to feel good when the stress comes? This was never been shown. in psychiatry. So they had this experimental module there and then nobody could make a different brain scan possible when stress comes in through the coal being pumped in to the skin, then stress part of the brain is activated. Nobody could make that not go activated, not go away and I could. I didn't feel the cold when it came in because I warmed up my body willfully. Nobody believed that was possible until you did it. I want to just recount the first study which was done and published in 2018. It was carried out a Wayne State University in Michigan and scientists looked at the way that the body and the brain reacted to changes in temperature. Whenever anyone feels the cold they typically have a automatic bodily response but also you can see that response in the brain and airing of blood vessels to protect organs, increased energy and pain signals. So to test whether you could control that those responses to the cold scientists created a full body suit in which they would pump cold or warm water into your body. On normal test subjects their skin temperature would rise and fall with the change in water temperature which is what you'd expect. When WIM underwent the experiment without his breathing techniques his skin temperature changes were very similar to the normal people. However when he used the breathing and meditation techniques he kept to sustained skin temperature of 34 degrees over 25 minutes which was never thought to be humanly possible. When he was put in a PET scan to see what was happening inside his body scientists saw that the intercostal muscles which is the muscles between your ribs were burning a lot of glucose from releasing heat into your body which was keeping your body warm. When looking at WIM's brain scientists saw that it didn't have the same unconscious reaction to the cold as normal people's brains did. His breathing technique engaged the sympathetic nervous system releasing adrenaline and triggered the area of the brain stem which is that area you were describing before. Very aqueductal grey amystera. That perceives pain. The triggering of the brain stem released cannabinoids and opioids and these chemicals gave a sense of well-being and reduced anxiety and this study showed that WIM had control over the autonomous nervous system of the brain and the brain's automatic responses to the cold. The results of this study have been tremendous and they have proven the massive potential implications for the immune system disorders like diabetes, MS and arthritis in psychiatry. The TLDR of that is the study really proved that the stress we encounter throughout our lives we do have control over it. We have control over that the impact it has on our physiological systems but also our brain and how we experience it because you were able to not experience cold. The pain of cold, the stress of cold. And it was not about the cold. It was about how to deal with stress. Stress can come in many ways emotionally, physically, spiritually. It can come in many ways. In the end it is biochemical stress. It turns into biochemistry, neurotoxins, etc. It accumulates and gets in the body. It creates blockages, it drains and you don't know what to do with it and then medicines come in and pills and it only deteriorates. It gets worse and that besides of the side effects. The thing is I used the cold back when I was with my wife who died to get my emotional agony out of the way. And it was the doorway to open up my healing, my spiritual healing of me as a puppy of my children just to be happy with them and to provide energy and well-being without this traumatizing darkness around us. So I found it through the cold yet it is not about the cold. It's about that I regained mastery over my to bring back my emotion uninterrupted because we should be able to guide our emotional state of being anytime when we feel bad. Naturally. Naturally. And that is what this shows. And now upon this study they did another study and then they saw even without me now people can do this. And that's what I wanted. That is the study a landmark study being done last January published. So that's 24 and six years past the COVID and now they see compelling evidence to keep on and to make these studies much bigger because the potential is that we found the key called inter-reception to be so strong that we are able to control our emotional well-being throughout whatever stress there is. It's not just our emotional well-being it's also our immune system. Of course that goes also with it. Isn't a healthy person, a happy person kind of you know isn't it interrelated? I want to just highlight this because this for me when I heard this many years ago I thought this was I thought this couldn't possibly be true. But in 2010 when you were 51 years old you took part in a study at Rand Bound University Medical Center in the Netherlands where you were injected with a bacterial toxin, a dead strainer of E. coli. In previous studies of 100 healthy people they responded to that injection with a flu-like response which is what you'd expect you'd get the flu if you were injected with that. However when you were injected with that bacterial toxin you had no negative immune response apart from a minor headache. Your blood blood results also showed the release of cortisol adrenaline and the messenger chemical IL-10 which is an anti-inflammatory protein all of which helps you to fight off that bacteria. However to approve that this wasn't just you being some superhuman scientist gathered 30 male volunteers 12 were put into a control group which meant that they were just normal and 18 were trained by you. You took 18 of them to Poland for four days to train them on meditation cold exposure and your breathing techniques and when they were injected with the bacterial toxin, the dead strainer of E. coli, the trained group had a significantly less immune response recovered quicker and their bodily responses were similar to your own. This was a major scientific breakthrough and it showed people could voluntarily control their automatic nervous system and immune response which was previously thought to be impossible. And that's the viewer. The viewer is looking at this now. That's you. And that's where we want to reach out to you have the absolute capacity to rule so much better within your own body and I'm doing this. I'm following this. I think it's scandalous after the scientific community not to have dove upon this. Why don't we? Is it because it's difficult? No, it's not difficult. It's not now like I don't know over the hundred million people are doing this but through the scientific world which is also in the beginning of this conversation, it's corrupted. They get funding from the pharmaceutical industry and that's all good etc. I'm not very messing with them but natural ways that could equalize the results of medicines without side effects should at least have a thorough examination by the scientific elite world. Can I just I want to even make sure I'm super clear on what's going on here and what's achieved these phenomenal results by having a sort of doing some of these techniques that help us to unlock this stress and the trauma that's deep in our body and that enable us to create a better response with stress. We're able to guard off the stress which means we're able to protect our well-being which means that we're able to fend off disease because we all know that when we're highly stressed our immune system falls and we get sick. I know in my own life whenever I'm really stressed is the only time that I'll ever get a cold or anything like that. Is that is that the simple way of describing what's going on here? Yes. We have this innate capacity to heighten our buffer zone to work stress by which stress is not able to do its damage. And is part of the problem with the modern way of living that we've chosen medication as the answer too often and we've also made our lives a stress phrase we possibly have. Absolutely. Absolutely. There is no doubt about it and it is a debt and street body. the way. And the whole healthcare system is burdened by the finances and all. It's going to collapse anyway if it keeps on going. But because it is a money making way, that's why they will keep on going until it collapses. I had Professor Friedrich in a book on the line talking about a set we win the democracy. The democracy as we know it actually is at peril in danger. Why? Because people are becoming so weak. And we the democracy is only composed by the strength of the people. Once we get all weaker and a system which is corrupt just to make money, a healthy economy on sick people that wants to stay that way makes the people weaker and weaker by which the democracy will know its aunt will collapse. And I said, "That weakness in the democracy in people I can make it go away in one week." Simply sans talking to this professor and he agreed because he saw it. He saw it in the people. He knew it. He knew it from anecdotal evidence. He knew it from his family, taken up these crazy Wim Hof techniques going into call Wim Hof was ever is a brand name. I'm a simple guy. I know what it is to have nothing at all to be a nobody. And now I got a name and fame and all that. I don't care. It's okay. If I got to stand up, I will. And I will say, "Yeah, I am Wim Hof, the iceman. And I will change the world. How through making you better than who you think you could be." And that is through the Wim Hof method. And a fasting is good too. To deprive yourself in different ways, hormatically, that is self-inflicted, acute stressful exercise. But do it consciously. If you don't go to the cult, the cult will come to you. If you don't go to the stress, the stress will come to you. Because we are built to endure. We are built. We got these capacities. So if we go into the cult, you will see that your whole body is able to handle stress so much better. And when you know you are going into a stressful event of any kind, you know, willfully to connect yourself, make your body from the inside so strong, that the stress out there is no problem. There are three elements to this Wim Hof method. There are three pillars to the method. The first is that conscious breathing. So let's just make sure we've covered that off. If I want to be able to just do this at home, if I'm listening now and I'm in my car or I'm walking the dog or whatever, I'm on a plane, what is the sort of key parts of doing the breathing technique correctly? Yes. Do it safe. So never outside to where you can lose control. Okay. You know, when you drive and you lose control, that's no good. When you are in a swimming pool, you lose control. That's no good. When you are at the nabbers and you lose control, no good. You know, wherever your motorical power is needed to be in control, don't do it there. So therefore we say strictly, this is a powerful medicinal therapeutic exercise through breathing specific breathing patterns. Teach me to take on. For example, we are sitting now. Yeah. It's safe to do it here. Yeah. Even if you faint now, then yeah, you would maybe fall here on the ground. It's a softer carpet here. There's no problem. Okay. So relax. Hey, it's a, this is also these moments when you, okay, relax. I'm now turning myself into myself because I'm going to breathe deeper. I'm going to go past my normal control, normal conditioning, normal thinking. So, okay, am I here? Yes, I'm here. Okay, here we go. We have a ballet. We have a chest that those muscles are connected to the lungs. So use your ballet and use your chest to inhale fully. You can go through your mouth, through your nose as you feel. How do I know if I'm doing it correctly with my ballet? Yeah, just. So two breaths in. Yeah. There's a certain moment it becomes one. Keep on going. Pull the end as deep as possible and let it go. Just let it go. And then fully in again. As deep as possible, let it go. Nolan. Let it go. And Nolan. Let it go. The mind goes with the breath. Pull the end. Let it go. And Nolan. Let it go. We are blowing. Keep on going. Pull the end. Pull the end of the sea to a carbon dioxide. Can become a little bit dizzy. That's okay. Your body is charging up. It's changing. Your blood chemistry is changing. You may have your pH levels go up in your blood. We do 10 more. Pull the end. Just follow the breath. Whatever feels different, breathe into it. Let it go. And Nolan. Let it go. This morning at five o'clock, I was doing this because I was preparing to be freed in my biochemistry of any shit. And this is cleansing the biochemistry. Troll my anything, anything that is deeply in is being clear. Yeah. Five more. Let it go. Fully in. Let it go. All in. Let it go. All in. Let it go. Last one. All in. Let it go. And stop after the exhalation. Close your mouth. No breathing. No need. Your pH levels are way up. There's no need for breathing. What is going to happen is what I was saying mentioning before. After one minute, and there is no need for breathing because the breathing trigger depends on C or two. C or two is blown off. You are by your hacking your body. You're going deep. You're going past the condition. Mind and body. You're going deeper in the tissue. Now you're entering into the deepest part of your brain. It's going to shoot out adrenaline, a pinniforin. The adrenal axis is now in activation. Now slowly but surely, five times more blood will flow into your brain and your heart. You feel peaceful. You have it fully in control. Yet the deepest of your mechanisms and the deepest of your brain are at work right now. And because you are doing it, you are connecting with those mechanisms. That's the way we learn to gain control over these mechanisms. And you're still without breathing, even normally you would die like you're peaceful. You're completely in control over your parasympathetic nervous system, which is deep, autonomic nervous system level. And you are in control right now. This is where trauma is starting to release. Five, four, three, two, one. Now you take a full breath in. Hold it and press it to your head. Press it to your head. to your head. This is subliminal cerebral spinal fluid to your head. It's flashing in an all-brain, 100% neural activity. Three, two, one. Let it go. Good. If we go into a next round, you will be able to go say for two minutes without breathing, then two and a half minutes, then three minutes. After exhalation, it cannot be something else than regaining a control deeper than ever before thought possible. And this is what we have shown. This is where the bacteria suddenly had no chance. The virus has no chance. Why is it that the world doesn't know about this? Why is it that a scientific world is not examining this as a beneficial therapeutic power to battle all the diseases we got? Because aren't we built within a immune system that should hold virus, bacteria, inflammation? It is. But it is never at will because this is deeper than our conditioned body and mind. And this is the way to get a hold of that. It feels so. I feel very different in every sense of the word. I feel when I came back into the room, it all felt very. It almost felt a little bit like I just woken up. But it also. I was a little. It was a little bit of. It was very peaceful. And I was very. When I came back into the room, I felt very focused. Nice. This is the last study I did with 540 people in Australia. It shows that this method is compared to meditation and mindfulness, works a whole lot better. How did you learn this? Where did you learn this? By intuition. You remember the mother who made me. Become a missionary, become a seeker. And then I found the cold water. What does the cold water do? First time you go into cold water. You learn to breathe deep. And that makes all these changes. At a certain moment, I became aware that if I was breathing deeper, slowly and deep, slowly and deep, I was able to endure the cold much longer. That means that if we go into deeper breathing, we are able to activate deeper mechanisms that are able to make us a lot stronger. And that translates to life. Yeah, translates to everyday life. I want to get on to the cold water, which is this sort of second pillar of the Wim Hof Method. But the third pillar, I find really interesting as well, which is the power of the mind. Exactly. What you mean by this, the power of the mind. You're telling me that I can do things to my mind to make my mind stronger and more resilient? Oh, yes. What do you mean by the power of the mind? First of all, we just recently did this new study. It's coming out now. It's into submitting. They did it with 540 people. So meditation and mindfulness is about the mind, isn't it? To bring anxiety down, bring stress down. This method works better than mindfulness and meditation, which is in the corporate world, but also in the wellness industry, overall and also therapeutically in the health, mental healthcare systems, being accepted and implemented and used as a therapeutic medical means. So this works better. The stress resilience goes way up. Stress experience goes way down and cognitive awareness goes also way up. This is what you just said. And this was only one round. Imagine if you do four rounds, you will go so deep that's, yeah, unprecedented deep, where you will go and things can come to the surface, never been stashed away. You never knew of or were not aware of and all. This is all blocking our awareness. And now when it's getting out of the way, then suddenly our awareness becomes bigger, brighter, nicer, more flow, more receptive, more sharper, clearer and all. And that is part of a system that suddenly is able to override our conditioning. So our conditioning is a conditioning where in deeper mechanisms are not really at work, but we are able to function in this society system, etc. But not necessarily we are connected with the depth of ourselves. And when trauma happens or emotions start to be not nice, we don't know what to do with that. Now the power of the mind is very simple. Through doing this, you learn to override to create a different conditioned mind and body relationship. And suddenly opens up a new terrain, a new capacity in the brain to connect with. And that is in pterosception. Interception. Interception. And with that, we suddenly learn to control and to command our bodies, a vessel of our emotions, of our sensations, of whatever we experience, that's our body. But when it feels bad, we don't know what to do. And now we found a way to go past that conditioned state. And we found a new way in the brain and get a hold of that, which is there naturally to control whatever is going wrong, to re-regulated, to rebalance it, to reset it, to make our bad feelings, emotions, disease, etc. make it go away in our command. That is the power of the mind, which is a natural capacity of ours, which should be revealed past the system way of thinking and be brought into secondary school or or even when kids are very young, that they are able to depict their own happiness, strength and health. Is part of the building up the power of the mind, becoming stepping into personal responsibility and stepping away from victimhood? Yes, because victimhood is no longer needed. Responsibility is there where we have the ability to respond. And these are the tools. Then suddenly we feel we got to stay in our hand. How did you train someone though to stop being a victim in their own life? In one session. How? Just do this breathing. Yeah. And then we go into the ice bath. They suddenly feel power. Sorry, that I'm yelling. Yeah, it's power. People feel being silent in that ice bath, overcoming all that stress and suddenly feel that they are on top of it. And they are suddenly able to go past this concept of this dangerous cold power energy coming to our end. No control. This anxiety is suddenly they got a hold, complete all over that. And with that comes that paradigm that always thought of that to be impossible to control. Suddenly it's a piece of cake. That is then turning into a domino effect, a cascade of feelings of, hey, if I can't do that, I can do that. I can do that. So you can build personal responsibility by taking control of the cold and not absolutely. And just one day. Okay. Well, guess what, whim upstairs, I have two ice baths. I've always been bad with the cold always. It's a story I've told myself in my entire life. So seeing as you're here and seeing as I just happened to have two ice baths upstairs, could we go upstairs and get in those ice baths and you can teach me how to master the cold to the cold no longer masters me. Follow me on this. I'm just a brother of another mother in this. Yeah. We are like family. Family people have the capacity to transmit their energy. It's logical. It's not being a woo ha. It's real and you will feel it's real today here in the ice. Just follow me there and I'm very soon you take the reins over you yourself. Let's do it. Okay. Sorry. Stay with your breath. We have friends. Come on. We show the world. from the inside is the power. Let the body do what the body is capable of. Long out, breath. Long out, breath. Long out. You're doing good. Look at the thing. You didn't think this one, huh? Like this. Yeah. You're doing good. Yeah. Let your body do what the body is capable of. It takes about 20 seconds more than your body is adapting from the inside. That means that the hormonal system suddenly has found your way to oppose the impact. And that makes your body strong. That makes your immune system on. That makes your emotions being within your control. The deepest part of the brain now is within because you are doing it. It's within your command. And that is reestablishing natural power of us. This is what we are going to bring to the whole white of world because we love the people. That we bring happiness, strength and health. It's power. This is power. What's silent? Nice. How simple it can be. I'm not a sorcerer or something or a magician. Live is magic. Yes. Let's get to life. Look at us. He was afraid of the cold. The cold is not mine. I'm a God of one body. Look at them now. You can't buy this. You can obtain this happiness, health and strength. You can obtain it. You just go to the cold and the cold doesn't come to you. Did you do this every day? Yeah. Yeah. I love it. What time of the day do you do it? In the morning. In the morning. And how long would you send here in the morning? Sometimes I stay. I had a birthday. When I became 60, I thought, I'm going to show the world that I'm fucking strong. Sorry for the French. But I'm going to stay 60 minutes in the icy water. That happy times. And 61, I did 61 minutes. 62. I did 62 minutes. 63. I did 63. And when I became 64, I thought, that's boring. Your nature is on insight. And that's the whole message. And with that comes the a strengthened immune system, a strengthened cardiovascular system, cardiovascular related issues, is killer number one in our society. Through this, it's gone. This is the way to tackle it. Connection with the depth of the brain, the deepest part of the brain. And if you are able to go to the deepest part, where else can you not go? So if I did this once today, you think I'd be better equipped to deal with the stress of work and the stress of life. And yeah, of course. Man, and you don't need to go this long into a nice bath. Two, three minutes is enough. And we've been in six minutes. It doesn't feel cold anymore though. Actually, it feels a bit warm, my legs feel like they're warm. But I don't know if that's just from my legs shutting down or something. Okay, I think it now just time enough. Well, Gumball, are you lit it? Come on. Thank you so much. It was so interesting. The first 20 seconds of that process are so fascinating because I had to confront a lot of things. I had to confront a lot of natural reactions that told me to stop, to get out, to, you know, my body went into a phase of panic. And it's funny because as I reflect on that feeling of panic, it was like a wall. And it was a wall that I had to make a decision about going through or going backwards. And I say this because I think in a lot of our lives, we're surrounded by these walls. And it's in many of our lives actually the walls kind of close in on us. And what I learned in the first sort of 20 seconds of that process was that that wall was something I created myself. It was a figment of my imagination. And as I sat there for five, six minutes, my body almost said to me, it was like, sorry, I was lying. I was lying to you. Something was like, could because five, six minutes in, I'm completely fine. Yeah. But in that first 20 seconds, some panic signal went off and told me to retreat. And so I just find that so fascinating. It's like there's something about breaking through a wall that you once really believed was real that illuminates your mind to the what other kind of self-limiting beliefs you're currently constrained by in everyday life, you know. I could, I could have said better. Self-limiting belief beliefs coming in. At a certain moment, become blockages, become patterns, become conditioning. And that conditioning withholds us from going through things when they come to our lives because they are too stressful. They are mirroring that what we through our self-believing, limiting way of thinking have created them. We see it outside and we don't go in it. We don't go through it anymore. And thus we don't find these things in our lives anymore to as life's lessons. It's no longer there. And there we limit ourselves and become narrowed. So what we have found now through these practices that we are able to command our bodies so much better to go through the self-limiting, self-disconditioning because in most of the time it is that we get schooled, that we have to follow rules, ethics, morals, etc. At a certain moment we got a belief system that is not necessarily who we are in the depth. And this is where this society is suffering. Big time of having no connection with this invisible purpose of ours, which is there, but it's behind the wall. And simply through doing this, you see, you have the power to go through these walls. You have the power to become exactly who you are and what you are. That is what they're called as showing. It doesn't show what you think, it shows you who you are and what you are. And from there you will see that the walls in your life of whatever invisibly, what they're stalking you will disappear. Is this in part? It seems like a lot of people in society right now are choosing discomfort because we've got kind of gone one way as a society. We've gone to comfort. And then you've got this counter-movement of people that are now doing ultra-marathon runs and they're cold plunging and they're doing things to put themselves in intentional discomfort. It seems like it's for me it's of observed like a counter-movement. Yes, and it is. And it is. But the thing is now that we are showing in science with the professor of Ibov Divakar, mostly in auto-music, that we found a key. And a key is the innate capacity of ours to command our bodies much better in our emotions. Because in the end it's not about going into the extremes. It's about handling our emotion and to feel that we are on top of it. No matter what. And that being able to pass on to our children. The way reactionarily we go into these extremes and all, that is a reaction of our massive paradigm encountering too much comfort. Now let's go to that. But that's the reactionary. Human is it that we actually are here to learn to have a halt, absolute hold over our emotion, which is directly connected to our purpose. Because from the beginning or the problem, the conflict is, the conflict with our soul. And our soul is about when we realize our soul and the unlimited power of the mind serving us to find realization of that soul and that is for every person unique. What are the other things that are like staples of your daily routine? It wants a day. It wants a day. Yeah. Okay. So can you run me through a perfect Wim Hof day? Yeah. But in the morning, I wake up next to my wife and my child. My youngest is six and actually there's a new one coming. I'm 65, but hey man, I'm alive, I'm sorry. And I got a, yeah, I found a younger woman eight and a half years ago. We are very happy together. And she says, don't talk about that. I'm sorry, but I'm very happy. My oldest son is 42 and my youngest is going to be zero very soon. So that's life. I wake up and look at my beloveds next to me, still sleeping and wow, like angels. What time do you wake up? Five o'clock. Five o'clock, half past five. Half past four around here. Why so early? That is me now. Sometimes I just sleep until nine o'clock. I'm not really bound. But time is serving me. I'm not serving time. In the morning I do my exercising, a ritual. And I like my coffee in the morning. I start in no sugar, just coffee, a little bit of milk, nice. What are those exercising routines? You saw me doing this, please. I want to do a world record, by the way, in three, third of August in Germany with four thousand people doing this. And do you use weights or anything? Yeah, I'll tell. Yeah, I use weights. Before not. Okay. I use it to push ups, it's like weight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put it down. Put it down. Put it down. Put it down. So you can do that or weights. And I got a bar where normally you got to put your weights on. You do this. Yeah. It's about ten K. Yeah. I make it circle like a stick. If you do that five hundred times, it's. It's a time. You really go deep. You go to your pain. If I do exercises, I do it to the threshold of pain. And then I overcome the pain. No, no, no, no, it's okay. That is body awareness. That body awareness I want to know, feel, feel that I live, not know, feel that I live. I'm alive. When's that first meal of the day? Later. Later in the day. So in breakfast. No, no, no, no breakfast. No lunch. Why no lunch? Because I don't, I feel stuffed up. I feel too much. This is also part of conditioning. I could also enjoy a very nice breakfast. Very nice breakfast is very nice. You know, with the sea and sitting there and a relax. Wow. One day some eggs, some this, some dead. Nice coffee. Hello. How are you? Enjoying life. I could do that. But I really enjoy the feeling that I'm fasting inside a little. That I'm going against like the cold. If you go to the cold, then the cold doesn't come to you. Okay. When the appetite comes, I just delay. Are you fast for, you're doing sort of intermittent fasting now, as they call it? You're going to be. Yeah, but I did this since I was a young kid. Again, intuition. Yeah, intuition. It's just how you felt. Yes. Because the external narrative is you're going to have three meals a day, maybe four meals a day. You've got to have breakfast, you're lunch, dinner. No, no, no, no. Yeah, that's just made up. It's made up. You should feel like any animal in the world is not eating when it doesn't need to eat because it doesn't think it only eats when it feels and when it feels that it needs to eat is eyes become bigger, becoming more alert, adrenaline starts to run. They become sharper. Then all the systems are at work. That is the way it automatically exercises. It's all of body. That's how I live my life. I've always thought I was a bit strange, but we're now at one pm. I haven't eaten anything today. Sometimes I get a little bit later into the day. Yesterday, this week, it's been five, six pm. I think yesterday was seven pm my first meal. I'm okay. I don't know what the. Yeah. But I. Yeah. You enjoy life. You enjoy the energies. I focus, but I have better conversations. Yeah. Yeah. When others hear noise, T-Row price, interprets market signals to find investment opportunities. Learn more about their active ETFs at t-ro-priced.com/explore-etfs. Exchanged traded funds ETFs are bought and sold at market prices, not NAV. Investors generally incurred the cost of the spread between the prices at which shares are bought and sold. Buying and selling shares may result in brokerage commissions, which will reduce returns. T-Row price investment services, Inc. The company's company is currently in the year 2013. It's a bit of a shock to me that it's possible to find a way to improve the company's technical skills. It's possible to find a way to improve the market and the front end, and to be able to work in the future. If Shopify is a market, it's a bit of a shock to me. It's a bit of a shock to me and we're going to be able to find a way to improve the company's technical skills. It's a bit of a shock to me. Shopify is a bit of a shock to me. Is there anything else that's really fundamental that you think people should question? You've talked to me about the breadth, you've talked to me about discomfort, breathing is one of them. You've talked to me about fasting as well. Is there anything else that, you know, whether it's relationships or our work or our purpose that is just a lie in your opinion? Oh yes, our energy is being drained. It's like thieving. And we should have all the energy to bring happiness, strength and health to our kids and to feel bright, bright and shining in life. But we don't because we have to do this, do that, take on stress and think about this, think about that. Who did this? Whatever did this is a massive paradigm going on. Taking our energetic bodies and with that, our emotions and with that our life force. And there it is. The real philosophy serves that paradigm where one becomes happy, strong and healthy and is able to pass it on. You're only a good if you are able to be happy, strong, healthy inside and then pass it, radiate that to others. There you go, pass you ego. And that we don't live that. We survive in this society. We live in a competitive world. We have all kinds of rules in this and that. But do we really feel bright? And the top, the best of ourselves, are we able to give love in full conviction that it is good and to others? Are we there? I don't think so. And that is what we are going to bring. When you say you need to live in your purpose, how do I know what my purpose is? Do I have to go find it somewhere? You know what? Just be happy, strong and healthy. Rest is bull shit. Just be happy, strong and healthy and purpose will follow. Yes. That is the purpose. The characteristics of purpose is not to be in conflict with your soul. Happy, strong and healthy. Then you become happy, strong and healthy. You don't need to work for that so much. A couple of exercises is more than enough. If I do my exercise, not the whole day you are working out, it's 10 minutes, 15 minutes. But I'm ready. This morning, because later I have a keynote speech, and I got a go to the record label. I got to meet somebody who is managing a body government mid-school of England. I got to meet them and something else. I thought, "Okay, today I got to be ready." So what I'm doing, I breathe like a motherfucker in there, morning, in bed, and cleanse myself so deeply that I'm ready to take on anything that is coming. And in that way, I will absolutely serve and especially be with you, which is a pleasure, a great pleasure. We our serving purpose right over here, unmistakably. Straight. When we have a closing tradition on this podcast, where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest, and my last guest left a question for you that is inside the diary of a CEO. And the question that was left for you is, what is one thing you can do next week to prove to your friends or family that they matter to you more than your work? Oh, work, like work, nine to five is work because my work is my life, my work is my mission. And in the end, it is not work. I feel all the power to do that. So next week, more than my work to keep on what I'm doing right here right now. Do you believe in work, life, balance? You know, people say work, life, balance, you've got to. Yeah, my wife is talking about that, but I don't, I don't feel that. I feel I'm busy with my mission and with my daily life at the same time. There is no work. I have no nine to five. I think you have no nine to five, too, you know? We depict our own realities. I think our power is stronger than they made us think it is by which we have a power which is stronger than what is man made coming to us. We are stronger and that's why we go and we don't work. You know, yeah, we work the game, we work the society, we work it all, but hey, it's not like nine to five and we got to obey and this and that. We don't do that. Why you got a maybe unexplainable, a genetical power in you that made you into who you are and what you are right now. You got a great responsibility, but also that great ability to respond. And that is more than nine to five. That person, this is my last question today, that person who is in that nine to five and they are struggling and they are trapped and they have been conditioned by school, university, their parents' desires, who were also, you know, their parents were also conditioned in that way. What would you say to those people as a closing message to those people? Oh, yeah, guys, just do what Stephen just showed. You thought you were not able to, I cannot do what a iceman is doing or what Stephen is God or what he is doing and I cannot, you know, you can do that too. The most precious of all, the greatest wealth you can embrace is your happiness, your strength, and your health, and you can get it ever reday. Anybody, that's you, that's you. It's love, it's powerful. -Wim, thank you. -Thank you so much for your time. You've been a legend and an icon and an inspiration to me, to my partner, Melanie, and to so many people. I mean, all these people written on the front of the book. I actually think every single one of these people I've sat down here with, from Joe to Ben, to Bert, to Russell, all of them. And Russell, oh, Fern, I've sat with her as well, and Gable and James Nester, all seven people on your book, I've gotten to know, and many of them have mentioned the profound impact that your work has had. And I was before we sat down today that I was going through so many videos of people who describe how you've changed their life in a really, really profound way. So on behalf of all the people-- You did, you did, you did. That's your work, okay? You're doing this study. You study people coming because next week or tomorrow, I don't know when, a new people coming in, and you will study again. Yeah, that's amazing. Thank you for all that you're doing, because you're providing a counter narrative and a counter solution in a world where it feels like there's only one, and that current solution is failing so many. So thank you for that, Wim. We have to change the narrative. And we will, because when we want to make the people happy, strong, and healthy, and independent of all what is going on, we got to resend it all. Here we are. Here we are. Thank you. [MUSIC PLAYING] I'm going to let you in on a little secret. What is in the Diary of a CEO Cup? 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