Wife’s On The Line

(upbeat music) - Yep, show all of me in the guy. - Andrew Show. - We are the brilliant Idiot's podcast, back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Have a kind of walk out. - Oh, yeah. - We took the week off for Thanksgiving, man. Um, how'd you enjoy your Thanksgiving? Do anything fun? - Yeah, it was nice, man. It was nice being with the fam. - Is this your daughter's first Thanksgiving? - Uh, no. - Who's the infant with? - She was an infant, okay, okay. - I think she might still be an infant. What is that? - Toddler now. - She's toddler, yeah. - I mean, yeah, yeah, toddler. - How about you, how was yours? - It was good, I was in South Carolina. - Oh, you went back back? - Always, man. It was in South Carolina, stayed with my mom, my wife stayed with her mom, man. It's just something about being home in the room you grew up in, the room you used to pray in. You know what I'm saying? - You moved from home out of her house yet? - Nah, as you can. - She loves her house, you know? Like, when my dad, when you still living in a trailer? - Oh, it's not the trailer. - No, no, we've been out there in a trailer. So my dad built like a wrenched-out house. - She's still in a double one. - No, no. - She's been out there in a double one. - I'm out there, how? - She, my dad built a wrenched-out house way, way, way, way back in the day. So actually, I did, I had some renovations done to it. It's so funny. It was things my dad didn't finish. - That you got finished. - That I paid, I actually paid him the finishing. - That's the house now. - It's all like the, I'll stay in the attic, bathroom and stuff like that. - But you paid your dad to finish it? - Yeah. - That's fine. - Yeah. - I keep it in the family, baby. But it's just, it was just interesting. You know, you grew up in, you being in the room that you grew up in, you know, and you're living in so many of your, the prayers that you put up in that room. - Yeah. - You know, so it was just like, yeah, it's, I mean, I go home all the time. It just was interesting staying. - And reflecting on it. - Reflecting on it. - Reflecting on it. I was so emotional, man. 'Cause you being proud. - Oh. - Oh my god. - I love this. - I love this. - 'Cause you drive. - Right attitude emotion, isn't it? - You feel like a ghost. - Yeah. - Like, you know how they talk about ghosts, the Christmas past, all of that shit. Like when you're driving through like the neighborhood you grew up in, the town you grew up in, you got all of these different memories. You really feel like a ghost. You're like, yeah, what happened to that kid? - Yeah. - That was sitting on that porch. - He got touched by his aunt. - That is very true. That came up. - Yeah, we've heard the story. - Yo, that is so, yeah, man. Nobody cares about me. - Nobody cares about me. - That's it. - Because you made it too funny with the Jerry Girl Juice. - If you've never said Jerry Girl Juice, - No. - You would have taken this. - Nobody cares about old, the women dittling low boys, yo. - I guess that is a problem. But more so when you make it so funny. (laughing) You said Jerry Girl Juice. - I didn't like the smell of her Jerry Girl. - That's a reasonable. - Yo, I was driving through Mounts Corner. I started to go to my homeboys, mom's house to see her. And I just hit me like, oh my God. She died. - Oh no. - And I'm saying like a year ago, you know, recipes with Jimmy Sue. And then I was started thinking to myself like, damn, my homeboy did too. Rest of the piece, you're out. - Oh no. - My go's like, his pops did too. I was like, rest of the piece, her believe. So it's like, oh, it's like, damn. This, all of these people just, you know what I mean? So shit like that, just be like, shit. You know what I'm getting up there, bro. You getting up there? - No. - Now we getting up there. - No, they, they, we're old enough where people, we know, die of old age. It's when I'm trying to. - Oh my boy, you're out of the devil age though. - He what? - He didn't die of old age. - What did he die of? - He got shot. - Yes, so he didn't die of old age. - But my point is, all these people are gone regardless. You know what I mean? And when you are just thinking about habits that you used to have when you were in the town. - Yeah. - And you like shit. Like you can't even just pull up on them. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, shit like that'll fuck with you a little bit. - Do you try to show your kids, you know, the places where you had memories and give them the floor. - Yeah, my kids spoiled it. - I know they don't care. That's not correct. My kids, my kids are type of kids. Like why is this house so small? - Yep. (laughing) - The house is so much bigger on the inside. It's a fun outside. - Great Chris Rock joke. - It's like, I knew my daughter was spoiled. They were learning about the four seasons in school. And she raised her hand. She's like, "That's my favorite hotel." (laughing) - True, no man. Like, I'm not making this up. And it's not even the older one. It's the 10 year old, the seven year old. Like, you know, you put, this house looks so much bigger on the inside. Grammy house is smaller now, so I've been going to say, like they just, they're-- - That even their fault. - It's the only thing they know. - Who am I to act like, you know, they're wrong. That's their life. That's how they live. Like, we get on planes and they'd be like, (sighs) Mitt is Jack Poo's first class. But I like Emirates. - Nah. - They shouldn't even know about Emirates. - Why not? When are you taking them to the Emirates? - What you mean? They'd have been to Africa three, four times, Dubai, like, when I travel, I take my kids 'cause I feel like that's one of the best ways for them to learn outside of like reading, right? - That is. - Outside of reading. - Oh my God. It's unbelievable. And you realize how much information they retain as kids. - Yeah, yeah. - Like this is like, my 17 year old, you know what I mean? She'd have more stamps than her past four than I ever had. But the 10 year old, the four year old, like they retain all that information. Like, they've been to these places. Like, it's a different conversation and I love it. Now, why should they see other wives in life? - Agreed. - What are we doing all of this for? - What are we doing all of this? - If not the show arcade to define a thing in life. - 100%. - 100%. - 100%. - Now, can we talk about something? - Yes. - Can we talk about how the, despite our best efforts? (laughing) - Despite our best efforts. - Legacy media still considers us to be important people. - Yes. - Despite our best efforts. - Every week we do our best on this podcast. - Yes. - To not be taken seriously. We put it in the title of the podcast. - Yes. - But today we just came from this, this New York, it's called The New York Times Deal Book Summit. This shit was huge, bro. - I didn't, you know what's so funny? I never realized how big something is. - I didn't realize how big something is. - I thought we recorded WTF media. - Hey. - I thought, no, I thought it was just a podcast recording. They're like, we're gonna do a podcast episode. We're recording where the New York City Philharmonic is. - That is the Philharmonic, the one with the instruments. - Yeah. - Right? - Oh, that's a beautiful thing. - We shut down the whole room just for us. Nine of us to sit on the table. - That's what that was? - Yeah. - I'm pretty sure. - I didn't know that. - I'm almost proud. - That was the way they do the Philharmonic. What? - No. - I'm not gonna say it wasn't. - It might be wrong. - Westside, Broadway, 30th. - No, this is, it's, it's, it's, no, this is not it. Maybe I apologize. It looks similar. It's, maybe it is. I don't know. - So people that were there. - Yeah. - I mean, we were looking at Scott Falk. - It's just talking. - But not now. You said that Chris should have been there, bro. - Chris should have been there. - You said that because Chris loves journalism. But you know why Chris should have been there? - What? - Look who's fucked with there, bro. - The president of fucking Taiwan. - The president of the country. - No. - No. - That's a lot of chink tea was there. - No. - What the fuck is that, man? - I watch it going new now. - For now. - That's a lot of chink tea. - Let me try. - Okay. If I'm walking to Starbucks and say that, what would they give this guy's answer? - This time, as his name is Dr. Jacob Stevens. - No, it's not. - That's so dumb. - You know the president of Taiwan. - What's the president of Taiwan's name, Chris? - You probably got it, right? - Lichang tea. - Yes. - Lichang tea. - Yo, go to Starbucks and let him be one of those right now. That's this, that's this year. - Come see. (laughing) - That's something you just left it. - No, but I thought we were in there. We're fucked with serena. - That's this year. - Oh, fuck the state. - Okay. - Larry? - Larry, where's the bill now? - Scroll up. - The fucking chair and CEO of General Motors, Mary Bar, Mr. Beast was there, Jimmy Donaldson. - Larry Fink. - David Ellison was there in the chairman's house. - Alex Carp. - They were protesting, David. They were protesting, Alex Carp. - Oh, Gavin Newsom was there. We should have sat down with Gavin. - Eric was there, I didn't even know that. Gavin Newsom was there. - That was all the day. - That's just, hey, this is just something light. Also, Schroller, man, the God and Andrew Schultz. - But keep scrolling. - Go to our panel. - The political pun. - The first panel. - Come on, man, y'all scrolling too slow. - Man, I feel a lot of liars up there. - There's so many people, 'cause this is over multiple days, Charlie, man. - That was the Gary Vaynerchuk was there. - Monica, went to the end. - Okay, he'll boom right here. They had a task force, right? - This is not our task force. - This wasn't our panel. - But I was there, Andrew Schultz was there, scroll up. I'm looking for who was on the panel. John Favreau, I'm sorry, the co-founder of crooked media. - God save America. - Ben Shapiro. - We missed you, Tommy. - My guy, David Remnik was there. - The editor of the New Yorker. - That was the New Yorker radio. - Stephanie Rules there. - The 11th panel. - I'm none the wise was there. Ben Shapiro was there. - That's right, that was on our panel though. - We was just talking shit. - That was on our panel. It was interesting though, but I've come to the conclusion. - How did they decide to break you guys up in terms of what panel will put you on? - I have no idea. - Well, ours was about media. Our was supposed to be about strictly media, and I guess like this. - Michael Barber, a host ship, by the way. They could be the daily. - Yes, Michael Barber or the daily. So it was about media. So it was all of these people who represent different facets of media. I guess from the podcasting to radio, the interviewing, to journalism like David does, to what Favreau and Ben Shapiro do with these by being podcasted. I don't know if you call them podcasts in new media outlets. - Bro, it's new media networks. It's, the way I look at things now is like everything is a podcast. Podcasts used to be a type of media, and now everything has been podcast-ified. So like every ESPN show is also available as a podcast. Radio is also available as a podcast. So podcast is just what we call unscripted media. Now there's even scripted podcasts, but the view you could probably listen to is a podcast or watch the podcast. So podcast is just what media is. - If your content is not company, coming out in a podcast every day. You're behind the April so far. Like, I don't even know what you're doing. But it was a great conversation, man, but what I realized is that legacy media has a, I'm not gonna say they have a problem with new media, but they just don't understand what it is that they're getting wrong. I understand what they're getting wrong, shows understand what they're getting wrong. They just really don't have a connection with the people. - Bro, they try to get me, man. - Oh, they jumped in there. - They jumped in there. - Oh, they jumped in. - I was waiting all the time. I was like, they literally had like a running clock and there was 20 seconds left. And Barbara was nice guy. Barbara was like, okay, Shultz, I have a question for you. I'd really like to get to and, you know, and he like is prefacing it all like nice and sweet. And I'm like, all right, here we go. I already know what it's gonna be. I'm like, at certain points, I'm like, "Why didn't you ask Trump the hardest questions? "Why didn't you do what we were done?" - Right. And he brings up this thing. He goes, you know, on the podcast Trump said that the Russian hoax was clearly hoax and it was fake and that the Pulitzer prize should be taken away from the media companies that covered it. And I guess I said afterward or like, I guess that would confirm if you gave them a Pulitzer prize for the coverage that it was real when it was proven to be a hoax, right? And then we move on. And they're like, what do you think about that shit? And I'm like, I don't know. I'm like, I don't even know. - It's why they invited him here. - Yeah, it's why they invited you here. - Oh, that's why you here. (laughing) - They wanted to jump. - They literally no more time on the clock and they're like, oh no, they're gonna give us you more minutes to go. - There's a section of the interview. And maybe you would have thought this was due to fall in the moment, unless you're sure I'd agree. Where the president is describing the entire federal investigation into Russia as a hoax. Made up by Hillary Clinton, made up by, these are made up by Nancy Pelosi. That's factual, that's not accurate. But then he goes further and he says that the Pulitzer prize committee should give the New York Times, should take back the Pulitzer gave to the New York Times for its aggressive coverage of that investigation. - And the post. - And you in the interview, you're nodding along to him. You're verbally agreeing with him. - Yeah. - And you say, yeah, to have New York Times keep that Pulitzer is to basically say that the lie is true. - Oh, that's what they bought you here for. They bought you here for a bunch of-- (laughing) - Anyway, anyway, anyway, you pay the pay. Anyway, so then, so in that moment I kind of, and it was funny, like all the traditional media people on the panel, who are all very sweet, immediately jumped in on the conversation, and all the new media put people kind of knew what it was. So they didn't, like, so Shapiro or Favreau or Charlemagne were like, didn't really say anything about it. So, so I said this is like, I was like, first of all, I don't know what the, I don't know I think about the Russia hooks. I'm already gonna get clipped to hell on that, I'm sure. But what I said with this is like, you guys are part of the fucking media class. You have to understand this. You are reading the whole Mueller report. You're reading all of these documents. You're following the investigation. You're following all these trials. The average person, which I think we're more represented among, all we see is there was an investigation. Mueller chose not to indict him. When we hear they're not inditing somebody, we go, oh, there isn't enough to indict him. Therefore, nothing happens. - And you know who told us that? - Legacy fucking media. Like, legacy media created this narrative. Now, that's not to say if there isn't smoke, right? Then it's to say that there are things that they can make connections. But Mueller himself saw that there wasn't enough to indict. And what I was trying to communicate to them is like, guys, so when the American people see that, who aren't reading the whole Mueller report and looking at all these things, they just see these fucking headlines. What do you think they're thinking? - It justifies when somebody like Trump says, shit is a witch hunt. - Exactly. And it justifies when he says it's a hoax. Because if you're not willing to indict, then it's a fucking hoax. - Oh, no, it's not. - But it's not on other things. - Yes, but I'm saying when you're not doing it. - But they did it. Even the cause of what you're right, but they didn't. And when you don't treat a problem, like it's a problem, there's a really quite problem. - They didn't because of the rule that a president is immune is my understanding. I mean, a grand jury didn't indict him on some of the election stuff. - But we're talking about like Russian collusion. - Oh, but the Russian don't get it. - Yeah, this is specific question collusion. - So here's my question to pull it out a little bit. - And just to clarify, it's not to say that there aren't things there. And they aren't reasonable in that criticism that they know. What I was trying to communicate to them is you're privy to this in a wearable this. The American people are seeing an indictment dropped and then seeing him go see it was a hoax and very reasonably so going see there's nothing here. - And also question Chris. And I was thinking about this on the panel. The panel was moving so fast that you just had to keep up. But there are the ones that are supposed to be the fact checkers, right? I would think legacy media. So legacy media can only report what actually happened, right? Like they can't tell us, yeah, you know, they didn't indict, but. - Well, they can't say a little, they're like. - There's always context, excuse me, to every situation, right? Nothing's completely black and white where this is the fact, this is untrue, this is true. I guess my question is, I hear what you guys are saying. At the end of the day, you do want somebody who's gonna read the Mueller report. You do want somebody who's gonna report. - That's what we don't do. - That's what I said. - The point you said about SNL on the panel was great. I was like, guys, you guys are journalists. I'm not a journalist, I never claim to be a fucking journalist. Like I do a comedy podcast, right? So when we have guests on, that's the standard you should treat it with. When Trump goes on SNL, they don't go, well, why didn't you do a sketch about the Mueller report? That would have been a good sketch to go. Because you have a standard expectation for that. And I think what a lot of the traditional media folks are doing, the legacy media folks are, they're very upset that Trump and other figures won't go on their platforms anymore, right? And they're taking that out on us. And it's like, no, you have to find another way for them to go on their platforms. The reason they're probably not going on your platforms is because your reach has diminished. So now it's only a risk for those figures to go on a platform like yours. They have nothing again because there's not that many people watching and everything to lose because you're gonna grill them to shreds about the Mueller report. They are. And that's the other thing. We see JD Vance on Sunday morning news, damn, they're every Sunday. We see Trump sit down with certain people. All we ever say to ourselves is, you know, why is nobody asking them these questions? Why is nobody pressing them about this? They are asking the question. I think the audience isn't there and it doesn't resonate. No, because when people, you know, no, I need an example. Give me an example. I mean, when? When have you seen Trump ask a tough question on traditional media in the past? Every time he, every time you get a reaction out of him, like, quiet piggy, that's them, asking him a tough question that he doesn't want to add. But there's no follow up because he's not going to end. They're not engaging. Like, what's the point? That's the answer. There was, there was, there was another, I think what we're also learning, and I don't know if people will be unbiased enough to admit this, but like, what, what we're also learning is that like, when people, people are just upset about interviews that don't go the way that they want to go when it's the person that they hate. Because the person that they hate, or not hate that they really disagree with, they want to see their opposition crumble under the pressure of those questions. - Yes. - When it's someone that they really agree with, right? Like, when Mamdani goes on Sam Seater's podcast, they tickles belly. They're not asking him the hard-hitting questions and tell us how the HBTSA affected the cost of living and the ability to create new housing. They're not jamming all these questions down because they probably agree on a lot of things. And that's not to say that I agree on a lot of things with Trump, which is saying I have a different way of doing interviews that I've done with everybody. And you can't put your journalistic expectation on his interviews as you can when we have a comedy podcast, we're trying to get to know the person. - Somebody said something, it was interesting. Somebody said something to you back stage. I forgot who it was, but they were saying how you were nice to Trump, but you were nice to Mamdani too, or some shit like that. Was it been with you? I forgot who the fuck you were talking to. My point is, if you watch all the flavoring interviews pretty much have the same tips on looks amazing. And that really bothers people when it's politicians because you never want to see the oppositions look amazing. But when we come people on, I humanize people. That's what I do in every interview that I've ever done. I want to see the humanity in you, I want to hang out, I want to have fun, I want to see if there's anything that we could actually connect with. - You're just curious. - Yeah, I'm just curious too. I just, you know, I'm just, I like asking, I guess tough questions, you know what I'm saying, and make you end up, that's why I end up in all these Republican ads, I guess, you know what I mean? If people act like that is my fault, I wish we had gotten that too. But people act like that's my fucking fault when I ask these questions, and it's like, because this person gave a bad answer, and so their political opponent decided to use it in a motherfucking ad for their campaign. I'm the bad guy. - The Democrats lost, they are looking for a scapegoat for that anger, sometimes it's you for asking tough questions. And now all of a sudden tough questions are bad, by the way. - Right, before you're asked it, when you're asked it a part of you like, they're bad. - When they're asked it a part of your like, you're pushing mega conspiracies. - That's right. - Like that, when they're asked to the opposition, you're a hero. - That's right. - And that's good journalism. What I've seen is a lot of times like the goalposts shift a lot. And I wish we could just acknowledge our own biases here, and be like, hey, we wanna see the people that we like look good, and the people we don't like look bad. And when we see the people that we do like look good, i.e. when Mamdani comes on the pod, all the Mamdani fans were like, this was awesome interview, and we loved him, he was great. But conservatives were like, this guy's economy is how dare you have him on here and do that. Like let's just acknowledge. - Oh yeah, no, it's always like that. - You have this journalistic integrity, none of you do. It's like when we bring, I used to always see that when we would bring any transgender on the show, any transgender, you would have, people from the transgender community upset, because they're like, that's not the right representation of us. And then you would have our regular listeners like, man, what is this shit you got on the radio, right? So actually it's more of a detriment, because our broader audience is like, What are you doing? That's why when flame comes on people like flame because flame isn't coming on to do anything but make you fucking laugh. Exactly. And to me, that is what humanizes people. Yeah, and that's what they don't want when it's a political, when it's so great, they don't like when it's somebody can't humanize is threatening your existence. Let's say we're going to put in the most hyperbolic terms, right? They're threatening your existence. I don't want to use that type of language. - All right, fine. And I'm gonna tell you why I grew up in a minute. - Go ahead. - But like when somebody is threatening like your worldview, how about that? - When someone is threatening your worldview, you don't wanna see that person's human eyes. You don't wanna see that person looking charming. You don't wanna see that person like, I saw it with the mom down here. It's like, there are a lot of people that don't agree with some of his policies. I don't agree with a lot of his policies, but they saw him looking charming, funny, able to hang, and they were like, fuck, this is bad. People are gonna like him. And it's like, yeah, people might like people who disagree with. That's the reality of the world we live in. Grow the fuck up. - The reason I don't wanna use extreme language like that no more is because I'm telling politicians that they shouldn't use that type of language anymore. Because when you throw words around like fascists, that you don't actually have democracy in the end of your existence, but you don't ever really act like that. - That was so funny. - So Charlie didn't bother up a great point in this thing. He was like, look, he's like, what the hell are we doing? He's talking about when Trump and Mamdani met. He was, Mamdani called Trump a fascist, and then they're cozying up and hanging out. And like he was almost reluctant to call him a fascist and Trump gave him the out in the meeting. - And in two days later, I'll meet the press. They asked him again. Yeah, and he's like, he was like, yes, I believe it's a fascist, but I can work with him. And there's no great way to normalize fascism. - Mr. Mayor elect just to be very clear. Do you think that President Trump is a fascist? - And after President Trump said that, I said yes. And-- - So you do? - And that's something that I've said in the past. I say it today, and I think what I appreciated about the conversation that I had with the president was that we were not shy about the places of disagreement about the politics that has brought us to this moment. And we also wanted to focus on what it could look like to deliver on a shared analysis of an affordability crisis for New Yorkers. - You've also said in the past that President Trump has engaged in a quote, attack on our democracy. You've called him a despot. Do you still believe President Trump is a threat to the democracy? - Everything that I've said in the past, I continue to believe. And that's the thing that I think is important in our politics is that we don't shy away from where we have disagreements. But we understand what it is that brings us to that table. Because I'm not coming into the Oval Office to make a point or make a stand. I'm coming in there to deliver for New Yorkers. And a few weeks ago, I was asked by a reporter three words to describe myself. I said, "New York City." And that's what animated that conversation. How do we deliver for the people of New York City? - I think that some of your supporters would be curious to know, you say you stand by your past statements that yes, he's a threat to the democracy. How do you square working with someone who you still think is a threat to the democracy? - I think working for the people of New York City demands that you work with everyone and anyone. And that you always look to find those areas of agreement while not overlooking the places of disagreements. - And so he tried me, but at this great point, it's like you're normalizing fascism in that way. And then there is a-- - No, literally. - Yeah, yeah. - Could he say it? No, no, no. I said he's a fascist and I can work with-- - I had your back, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then what I think, Remnick, Dave Remnick was like, well, I know him, I've met him and I've spoken to him and I knew in that moment that he was performing with Trump. And I go, David, how do you know when the performance starts? Does the performance start with you? Or does the performance start with Trump? I'm sure you would believe it starts with Trump because that fits your worldview better. But it might have started with both of you. I personally love seeing politicians that disagree on things come together and be friends. I would love if they didn't call each other extreme things and then rile up their bases to hate the opposition and we get to the point where there are people literally fist fighting in the street at protests because of this rhetoric that's being pushed down from their leaders. - And listen to what you now would be great. - You said you love to see politicians that disagree with each other coming together. Yes, if this was a normal political circumstances, but guess what's telling us this is a normal political circumstance. - The politicians. - No, the politicians and the media. - And we got eyes and can tell. - Yes, so another point I bought up to David, I can't wait 'til y'all hear this conversation. David was talking about the authoritarian strategy that Trump is using on the media, like having the FCC, we're gonna pull licenses. - Right, no. - Wrong, which we all agreed. - Absolutely. - What was the FCC pulling licenses? What was the other thing? - Pressing in the fire, people are like - Funding. - Funding. - All of the access you can go on. - Living access. - Absolutely. - Absolutely. - Which we all, you know. - unanimous agreement that we all agree on something that's something that's wrong with that. But you can't say that's the authoritarian strategy. Right? And try to ring the alarm on that. But didn't act like saying it's okay to work with a fascist is fine. - So, because what happens when the word has no, as you say, Chris, they didn't start killing the Jews on day one. It killed one day 600. So what happens when we get the day 100 and you've been trying to tell people what's been going on, what you've been using this language like fascists in the authoritarian world. - But shit is really happening and they're like. - You probably won't. - I can be the counter. - Okay, that's nice. - I agree with you. I think Trump is a fascist bubble. - Give us that steel man. - I think that's something. - The counter is Trump holds the purse drinks to hundreds of millions, maybe a billion dollars worth of potential federally. - Of course. - Whether you think he's a fascist or not. And you have to try to work with him because the city will essentially collapse the sufferer if you don't cut a deal. I, look, if Trump walked in that door, I'm walking out the door. I agree. You don't engage with somebody like that. I agree with you 100%. But that's the counter. - Oh, I agree with you, Chris. But here's the thing. - But if you know you have to work with him. - Don't call him a fascist. If you know that that's part of the job, you don't even have to work with him. You're gonna have to, again, I just, I think that we all, what we all have to acknowledge is like Trump calling Mamdani a communist, riles up support of his base. And Mamdani calling Trump a fascist, riles up support in his base. And we have to at least acknowledge is that they're using those instruments. So they're both their advantage. When in reality, the greatest advantage that we would all have is that these people who disagree, major disagreements over the world are able to work together and maybe pull each other closer, maybe away from communism and away from fascism by having these conversations. - I have some human friends. And when I tell you that they were so, I mean, they hate Zora and Mamdani. And they're like telling me about stories, their grandparents that told him about communism in Cuba. - Yeah. - And they're like, Castro was charming too. And blah, blah, blah, blah. Like they're like visibly upset about the fact that Zora and Mamdani is going to be the mayor of New York City because of all the language that they've used against him calling him a communist and stuff like that. - Well, I think the irony in this is Trump emerged as a politician because he wasn't a politician if that makes sense. He convinced people he was outside of that base. Mamdani did the same thing. - Yes. - I'm not a politician. - I don't think he would ever say he was a politician, but I'm operating in a different space. - Yeah. - And what we're seeing right now is. - Did he? - Yeah. - A little bit. - He was a supplement. - I'm confused. Why can both things be true? Like, I can't, Mamdani, think he's a fascist, but also know he has. - Because it looks hypocritical with your politicians. - How about this? And it makes the word fascist. - Let me slice that. - Let me slice that. Let me slice that. It's as thin as this. It's, I get scared when I see Trump doing these things that are exhibiting authoritarian tendencies. - Okay. - I get concerned because I don't want America to devolve into an authoritarian leadership. And I pray, or whatever, the political answers. And I really hope that that's not what he hopes for the country. I want, I imagine that he honors the Constitution. I imagine he really cares about America, be a free and open society. But that's something that scares me. It definitely scares my constituents. That is the political answer that isn't just using the word, this person is a fascist as a label. - Got you, okay. So you want him to slice it a little bit there. - It's the difference between just calling somebody, hey, Miss Rachel's an anti-Semite. And like, that was another thing I brought up in the thing. It was like, Miss Rachel's an anti-Semite. It's like, if you call Miss Rachel an anti-Semite. - That one's way further than that. - What if I call you a homosexual? - I don't know. - No, I'm serious. If I say Alex is a homosexual, you're wrongful of people. Now everyone's getting it. Everybody thinks he sucks the cock. - Yes, they do. - There's no other way around that. You're a homosexual. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Everybody thinks you take it up to that. - I hate this. - You understand what I'm saying? I can't say somebody is a fascist and then say, but I'm willing to work with him. Because if that's the case and you don't really believe he's a fascist or maybe that person isn't a fascist because there's no such thing as working with fascism. Well, there've never been a time in history where you can work with a fascist. - What if a girl kept saying, "Oh my God, this guy's gay, this guy's gay, this guy's gay, this guy's gay." And then she went and married him. - Yes. - We'd be like, "I don't believe you." - You married to human torches. - You married to human torches. - Why would you do that? - I mean, you can. - By way, why would you do that? - No, you don't believe that. - I thought he was gay. - Yes. - You know what I mean? - But then what if she was like, "I'll actually just be a nice sim for his money." - That's the argument they're making with. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - With Vandani and Trump. - And by the way, I have no problem with Zoran Monday. - I was talking about Jesslene and I got this. - No. - What the hell is going on? We already settled that one. They were together, they were broke, Alex. Get off the internet. - But it slept on a floor together. - There was. - Which is a luxury place in India. But in America, it's not, okay? - The reason we even bought this up on Indians watching that clip, like, you guys had a floor? - Okay. - The reason we even bought this up on the panel, 'cause we was just talking about the media's role in responsibility when it's normalizing. A lot of the things that we're seeing. - You know what I'm saying? - You know what I'm saying is confusing. - They normalize hatred and then when you don't normalize it, when we sit here on the pot and like, try to find a gray area and shit. They're like, oh, you're fence sitting, you're seeing both sides. It's like, yeah, you should fucking see both sides half of the people in this country have sitting on a different side It might be advantageous for you to see what they're feeling and maybe you agree a little bit now You imagine watching CNN all the time and they tell you that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy and authoritarian and fascist and all of these things, but then soon as Zora on goals in the White House They're like, how Zora and Mandani charm the America's unruly uncle yet uncle that was really the fucking headline now He's just he's a unruly uncle now a week before things given so now you go home and you're dealing with all your unruly uncles You know he like yeah, so you got it you I guess what Charlem is trying to say is like yo You guys in media have to take responsibility for that shit You can't just decide what words mean when they benefit you and then act like you never said them when it benefits And then when those of us say the type of things we're saying now act like we craze Which they we actually giving you the alley you to grab it and dunk it, but they don't hear you know what that is something We should stop normalizing words like fascism and communism and think that threat to democracy if they're not acting on it I bought up the marigal and point. They all look at me like I was crazy You know what I mean because you we was on the Russian hope thing I was like what there's other examples. I'm like yo January fucking six, you know Marigal is dragged his feet and came to prosecute and Trump so did it really happen to people when you're telling us that It was like well, we all saw you know it. I mean, yes, we all saw it. Yes, but nobody was on a camel. Yes So is it a credit wasn't really a crime? Yes I mean a lot of that storm they were held a couple days of releasing but the president wasn't but I guess what he's trying to say is The president was not out of countable for January. Thanks Chris. They tried and to then not ultimately And when Biden got out of office the first thing he said I should have got somebody I should have got a different attorney general That would have actually went after him much sooner Well, that's politics of that but this shouldn't be politics if it's a threat to democracy When are we gonna stop acting like it's politics is usual? We we have all these conversations about the media normalizing Trump We never have conversations about the actual politicians normalizing Trump and that's what the media should be talking about how Joe Biden Can say somebody's a threat to democracy, but when they win the White House literally standing outside of it saying welcome home Though I'm a money saying I can work with a fashion all these politicians I showed up to Dick Cheney's funeral All these politicians of like this is the worst vice president history is possible for all these at which he was right right and then them all Showed up as funeral with their little crocodile tears get the fuck I don't think y'all realize how confused and issued and I think I agree I don't like seeing it and I don't like it when they go to the funerals and they kind of put pomp and circumstance over So people so people go why and then we have these whole discussions where this whole the first discussion of the whole panel was like Do people trust the media should people now the first question the people trust the media and it's like after this discussion Do you do you understand why they are hesitant to? Did you notice did you notice something when they asked that question now the first question they asked it It was a yes-and-no question. Do you trust the media now only people who said yes was the legacy media people yeah I mean, I said I said yes, they you should trust the media to deliver To its viewers exactly what they want So trust them to be untrustworthy. I said broadly know. Yeah, but you should trust the people who who earn your trust Yes, which is yeah, that's when that's what I feel so vote should the headline of CNN on CNN been when he went to the White House Not motherfucking Zora house Zora Mandani charmed America's unruly uncle. What does that even further? What does that even mean like how do we? Everybody talks about you know Zora on playing Trump like a fiddle We said on this podcast brilliant. It's a few weeks ago and what did we say we say it would be advantageous for Donald Trump To play nice with Mandani stop giving Trump advice because he took it We said right here. Donald Trump should play nice with Mandani because getting in his way just gives Mandani an excuse Any any overreach from the federal government gives Mandani an excuse let Mandani fight it out with Albany Okay, you sit back wish him the best and see what happens that's exactly no Trump didn't play Mandani He's the one with the power. Yeah, what the fuck Mandani Trump need Mandani. That's that's the other thing we were saying is like Part of the discussion was like, you know who are these media because we were talking about Trump's What is it authoritarian tendency when it comes to media right and they're like there are some media platforms that are trying to sell to a bigger Conglomerate and Trump can hold that up with the FCC and then to what I said to that as I was like Why is that my prop why they why what up if why are you willing to sell the trust of your company down the river for a few bucks If you care about information and news don't do the sale. Yo, I bought up. I'm trying to get rich Yeah, and I said I said the Personalities that these platforms that's when you're supposed to bring the alarm and say yo, this guy said he's gonna take our license if you know If we basically don't do his bidding They're not gonna approve this merger if we don't do it. They're bidding and then the panels start to let the legacy media started talking about What owners have to do business. Bob Iger's not just concerned about you know, you bet ABC's concerned about didn't even that That's not helpful, but what I'm trying to say is now if there are corporate interests and financial interests and media They're gonna want to return on that investment just like anything else you invest in a building You're hope to sell it for more one day, right? So when we know that that exists and that's part of the system It's not wrong for the American people to look at it through that lens, right? If if we know that the pharmaceutical industry is pumping tons of ads into whatever programs And they're not can report on anything bad and about the pharmaceutical industry It's no question why we might have a little bit of distrust for that network But that's also why it's actually complicated when when people kept looking at the Jimmy Kimmel situation It wasn't just about Jimmy Kimmel Bob Iger has to worry about the NFL and ESPN and the massive book of business He has in front of the FCC chair. Yeah, and so I'm just gonna I hear you cuz when I asked her to see we trust the media should be a He's sounding no base off everything So you're basically telling us y'all are still putting business over the people over the people over the truth You don't be surprised when they don't trust you over the trust of the people I'll be surprised when they don't trust you. Come on, man. It's that simple. What are we talking about here? It's like it to me is very simple If the the media company that goes we would love to make this merger we would make a lot of money But we were gonna have to Fold on our journalistic convictions in order to do so because Trump is putting pressure So we can't do it. We're just refuse to do it. Yes. Guess who we gonna trust That's fucking platform. That's right. Stand. Oh listen. I think it was Bragg Obama who said a Bragg Obama was like, oh Somebody just got to stand up ain't nobody standing up. They on their knees. Mm-hmm. So what are we the people supposed to do? You want us to trust the people we see standing in front of Alex CBS kneeling in front of you I was got his hand on the back of the neck and we put the trust on we can trust you know what I was saying I said trust them. That's that's that's that's it. You're not willing to fight for yourself. Why are we fighting for you? But I don't know that's the conversation. We're fighting because We're having our own conversations on our own platform I guess the what we're saying is like you see media wonders why I meant people are tuned into other outlets now I meant like more the the Harvard dude like the Harvard summer. Oh, I would have like that like if this guy is willing Is stepping down, but he didn't do anything. He's stepping down because his connections with Harvey But like he truly didn't do anything. He was trying to hook up with a 26 year old girl or something like that If you are not even going to fight for yourself Don't expect us to fight for you. It's that simple. If you are not willing to fight for you Why are we gonna fight for you if you fight for yourself? Let's get behind you Let's show how this is unfair and that you're not even indicted. You're not even involved in this this case at all And you shouldn't have anything stripped from you and I think it's a cop out when they just Try to save people are stupid You know what I'm saying people are just dumb. It's like no Actually the way y'all report the news is actually dumb because you're not big. Nobody's nobody's keeping an agenda On these network. Favreau had a great point because they know the other no the young lady named no favreau remember We're talking about that. He was like I think that your Delittling the intelligence of the viewer. Yes, he goes when a viewer tunes into Ben Show or tunes into our show They're aware of what they're tuning into that's right the assumption from the legacy media is like people don't know anything And then they turn on the pog with Trump and then they're yeah, it's like no They're aware of then they turn on flagrant to comedy podcasts They're aware when we're doing this show here that we're just fucking around bus and balls They're aware and they're aware when they tune into Ben that he's gonna be incredibly sympathetic to conservative values Obviously super supportive Israel. They're aware of that. They're not stupid. I thought that was a great point Because I think that the legacy people were more like these people are being tricked and manipulated. No They aren't there fully. There are a lot of these people are very informed Very very very very informed. They actually just probably even want to see another side or they're just tuning in Because they're like shit. Yeah, maybe oh Anna had a good point too. I can't remember what I'm not saying What was we talking about right before then? It was uh by the way, that's another reason I can't really be doing these panel. There's so much that you can't I be fucking forgetting so fast like You can't be moving so month of fucking family. What happened? That was a good point. Oh, I want to reply to that wait Whoa, but you know what that was a good point too. Yeah, we'll be talking right before it. Uh, it was The intelligence of the people and we can't us. You're assuming that these people are unaware of what they're watching. I don't remember I don't know. I'm sitting there trying What else do we got Alex what else what else what else is going on in the world guys? Chris got it. What do we got? Oh my God kids don't need to read Jesus Christ. Oh boy. Oh boy. Before we click on that No, I just saw a headline that said JLo's still got it. She did she before we get you. Well then can you just click on JLo You don't even got it. I ain't I know but you know I just want to see more like this is this is just more evidence That JLo still got it but I don't I haven't seen this picture but just the fact that that link was there Oh, yeah 56 years old God bless God bless JLo has Defied every single burial type of a thing. Oh, yeah. Oh, Alex. Hey, hey, you know if it's just glitched I'll listen. I'm trying to be back for like four how old is she? She's 66 56 years old. 56 years old. She's in absolutely remarkable shape I just think it's funny like because back in the day JLo had the biggest ass that white people will have ever seen Which is crazy and with author and exactly that's why I said white people ever she lost a little bit of but she lost a little cake But we're not there like it used to yes, not the way the way mainstream America made JLo's cheeks wasn't like I think that that's also fair Yeah, true, but we white people never seen anything like that. That was a different thing really yeah I mean like New Yorkers. Yes, of course, but like imagine a white kid grew up in a suburbs a lot of flat asses They don't even know about the glued exercises. Yeah, yeah, deadlifts none of that shit. And then they always had JLo across from a white dude So they're like oh shit. She's taking on it. It was her and Carson daily Carson came back to add up causing it causing that cheeks No, he didn't have no cheeks. So they're comparing it. Why do you mean JLo would be on TRL right next? Oh, oh, oh, got you All right, so it's a phenomenal, but I just got to say a 56 year old with a but like that is absolutely sensational We can only all hope and correct let's also be clear JLo is aging phenomenally phenomenally for any race with the fact that she's Latino I think you need to put a little more emphasis on this we got we need to study some her DNA, bro This is like some Henry at a lack like we need to know what the hell is going on Like you need to take a little bit of JLo's DNA and see if we can mutate this the creation type of anti-aging drug, bro The way she is the buying Latino stereotypes see body women white women always get the freaking. Oh, you know, they expire quickly They age like milk blah blah blah. This isn't that Latinos, you know, no Latinos is after the kid. It's the balloon and spreading. Yeah, I'm saying they got I got to buy two seats on Southwest Yes, you know, we notice though. I guess okay. We know that they have that's really think their whole body and existence into their children It's no longer about that. They're such great passionate loving parents that they put everything like they don't even matter anymore It's all about putting love into those. I thought because they ate two carbs with every meal. I was trying to put a spoon on it I was really trying to put a spoon Okay, yeah, but I think that you might be on a sun. Yeah, I think it was I think it's the dinner carbs with every mill and then once you have a Rose gone free holless. I think it's just much of the other. That's too much. It's one of the other That's not like a whole dinner, bro Like you know, I'm saying that sounds like a beast. That don't sound like a one-minute. That's not like a piece One person should not have a beast is what I'm saying and so yes, we've seen Latino women, you know get a little big after some children JLo 56 years old. How many kids you got think three or four? Oh, come on man, like I'm all man. I'm really a round of applause It's a round of applause JLo. You're not you're not clapping It is this is others. There's you know, we got Sophia Vagara. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, never any kids Where did she have a kid? Eva Longoria. Eva got it. Oh, yeah, Eva. Yeah, she's a different rating system if you had kids or didn't have kids if you didn't have kids You got no excuse stay in shape. Yeah, you know what? I was just a good shout out all of those women out of the fine Latino stereotype I agree Eva Longoria Selma Hiya. Selma Hiya. Sophia Vagara. Sophia Vagara. Sarah. Panerapy Cruz. Yo shout out to y'all man because people Watch y'all eat two carbs with every meal for years, have some kids and they just assume That you know you're just gonna become you know big mommy. Well, it's not gonna happen. It's not. No, no And you guys are putting in work. It's not easy. No, that's work right there. Shout out to JLo, man That's why we can respect it. We can respect her body in the same way we respect a bodybuilders body They put a lot of work into that salute to all the Latino women defying Stereo tights you can objectify women over 40. I feel no, I'm not objectifying you know, I'm I think no It's not objective. Over 50 where there's got to be an age Yeah, we are we're saying that her body looks incredible word. That's not objectification. That's an observation Hold on we got it we don't have lust and over JLo We haven't said anything. No, you know from sexual what we're saying is just like a bodybuilder when we look at a bodybuilder We're not going oh my god. It's sexual. We're just going wow. You've crafted an amazing body She's crafty amazing body when I was younger much much much much much younger one of my I thought I said I want to I have five women That I want to suck a fart on the boy and JLo was on that list that subjectification that I don't that silly I don't do the type. Would you still do it? No, I'm married. I'm happy married Happily married. You can't suck a fart out of a girl's butt. Okay, stop. Don't be self-ass Don't really quit that quick that turn of that'sification that has come back and now it's like it's a thing What do you mean? How's coming. Oh, what was that con rips? This is what he called it. No, no sniff in the seat Damn that comedian. Oh, Chrissy D. What do you say he was like? Oh, yeah, he said after what's a face? Sydney Sweeney got up he sniffed a seat, but then it turned out to be the guy she did. Yeah, we got a rest Chris Yeah, for Chris and Hank, but he sniffed a dude see It was scooter and Sydney came to the seller. I thought a clip stand up. You saw the clip. You know it's all crazy. Yeah Every sniffing seat clip comes across my algorithm. Yeah You was first, bro. Oh gee, you really only did it once. Yeah, all it takes is one and it was J little seat I really remember me back. Come on. I was there. I was a couple of other four. I would have turned Just a case I forgot. Ah, I was so long ago. No, we're different people now Those humans anymore For different people kids don't need to read you out Santana click on this immediately Now I had to come back and give you else and I'll get a day for that. Tell me what he said. Wait. Let's play the clip Chris Just just just that just financial Well, for literacy and all that that's your early because by the time they get the knife ray They should be just learning how to start businesses How to how to but they don't really need to learn how to read I say that I say that respectfully. I'm not saying that in a way to be literary because you're not supposed to be a literate but you can You can Math math Told you math. I think you can get a you can listen to a book on YouTube. You can still obtain the information and you don't have to know how to read That's a real understanding. I believe common sense is better than everything. I I'm a common sense nigga I've had to have zero book smarts and common sense be able to read the room be able to read life be able to read people I try to understand people understand and I'm saying like now day you can listen to a book I just listen to the 48 loads of power. Not you To they got they got apps you can put it in and then to read it to you. Are you crazy? It probably will. Hey, I will now. There's what I'm saying. It's that's how free you can read. She got to be told to you In a bad way like you don't read a restaurant for me. What they don't read that shit? You ain't got to read the restaurant you can just say what is this a state joint. I was state I once wish I stay come, but what y'all got when the way to come And by the way, I even understand what they're trying to say, but they're just wrong you have To read and I think that they're they're conflicting a few different things right they're saying people who know how to read right Which is one thing and people who actually do read there's a different there's some people who don't know how to read right and there's some people who don't Like to read I'm I know how to read and I like to read and when you talk about math and financial literacy Math and financial literacy are two different things wrong math is how Numbers work financial literacy is how money works, but in order to understand everything I just said you have to read more Yes, because you'll have better comprehension skills you'll have better understanding skills You know what I'm saying that gives you a better vocabulary that's something that you should want as a rapper You know what I mean like I don't I didn't understand Any of this conversation when they thought when when they were talking about not Knowing I don't know what they were saying. I don't know how to read or they don't want to read like what was it I'm assuming they're joking. I imagine it's like here's a crazy hot take and then just No, no, no, no, no, come on. Come on. See you giving people the benefit of that again. You see no Here's a way to put it. He said I'd rather be able to read a room than read a book right which I get But the point is the more books you read, the better. more rooms because you understand more people, you have more context, you have more information. - One of the best books to read, he mentioned 48 Laws of Power by Robert Green, read the laws of human nature by Robert Green. You really wanna know how you know to read a room. You know, when I say things like smart people learn from their own mistakes, wise people learn from the mistakes of others, that comes from reading what has happened, you know, throughout history, to different people in different circumstances. That's how you can see something, and be like, eh, I don't think I should do that because I remember when I read that such and such, did this and did not happen. So maybe I should stay away from that, you know? - Yeah, yeah, I see that 100%. - And maybe I'll take that this, I don't take anything personal, but as a person who not only enjoys reading, but literally has a book publishing imprint, which Simon is showing. - It means a lot to you. - Yes, I'm from South Carolina with our first anti-literacy laws where even fucking creative. Do you guys have jewels of kids? Oh yeah, there's no way he's letting his kids not out of it. Like, there's just no way. I think he's being silly here, and he's on a fucking podcast that's geared towards having a good time hanging and joking, and they're just saying a crazy hot take, and then defending it. - That's what I assume is happening. - You guys think that they're actually making the argument - It's a real scenario where people are now like, why do I need these certain skills? Because my phone and AI and all these different tools can essentially do things for me. That's real. - You don't want to work out your brain? - No, you shouldn't. - That's what reading does, crossword puzzles, all of that stuff works out your brain. I guess like working out your fucking muscles in your body, like pick up a book, read it. Like sharpen your skills a little bit when it comes to your mind, especially the old that you get. Because boy, that cognitive decline is real. Especially nowadays, 'cause we're half ass taking in so much information. - Can you talk on that for a second? - Meaning like, we could be sitting there having a conversation. And I might reach for my phone. And I am listening to you. - But. - But I'm also trying to go through my phone. My brain is like, what the fuck are you doing? So it's like how much shit are we actually remembering? Because it's not making it into that long-term memory. Well, I guess long-term memory is you just need to continue doing it over time and time. But again, this half-listening, half-reading something, half-taking in a headline. There's so much-- - Half-enjoined in the moment. - Mm. - Think about it, half-enjoined in the moment. Think about how many grading experiences we've all probably experienced over the last day. - Now we're just doing this. - Man. - Now we're doing this. - Man. - Every concert is phones. - Man. - Video tape in the concert that you're at. - Man. - Yeah, I bet you can go back and listen to this podcast 13 years ago, and we had stories just off the top of the brain about stuff that we just experienced. Now, that should take a lot. - Yeah. - That should take a lot. - They'll remember. - Yeah. And I was thinking about that shit, and I was like, yo, I be wondering do I take a lot of things for granted just because this has been our life for so long. You know? - Yeah. - Imagine. - Well, I was using it in particular last week. Last week I went from, I was home in most corner. I was at my homegirl, Chris Kalens. She had her princess diaries, live podcasts. And I went home and did that. 'Cause that's home team. Chris is a really dope media personality from South Carolina, herter on the radio a few years ago, thought she sounded real dope. And just, you know, put mom around to help her when I can. So she does this thing called the Princess Diaries Live podcast. So I was there for that me and a Cartier Brown. Cartier Brown has a show on the Food Network, cookin' cookbooks. She's got a restaurant in the Charleston airport. Like, she's a big deal. And my homegirl, AJ from the We Talk Back podcast, you can subscribe to the Blacklist podcast network. So I went from that to flying to Atlanta, to be with John Holt Bryan at the Operation Hope, you know, that he does. And it was me, I interviewed Byron Allen on stage, and I interviewed Steven A. Smith Byron Allen and Sarah Jakes Robbins. And I fly back to New York to do breakfast club. And then we go do this panel today. But it's just like. Crazy. I ain't gonna remember none of this shit Friday. (laughing) One of these things, we have been the biggest thing in your year. You see what I'm saying? I'm not gonna remember none of this shit Friday. And I'm gonna be sitting around probably texting with shows and be like, yo. Somebody told me that day was on a panel, yo. And it was talking. They was talking to Stephanie. We were like, that was us. I'm like, oh shit, that was, I'm not even like, that's literally. We do so much shit. Yeah, he had to remind you on the thread. That's not what's even happening today. Yeah, he was like, you know, you want to do brilliantly. It's in the morning when I say, I was like, bro, we got this New York Times thing. He's like, oh yeah, we could do it after that. That's great. (laughing) And you know, it was so great about that. My assistant had just sent me the text and it was like, wow. You got to do the, but she didn't say New York Times. She said whatever the name of it. The old book, the old name of the mark. My mind didn't even connect the dots. But your body, you see what I'm saying? It's telling you, yeah, it's what I'm saying. And but you know another thing? And I said this Saturday, yo. Saturday we was out, and was it in South Carolina? I was in South Carolina. And, you know, we got our edibles and we drinking. And somebody said something. I, somebody said some of my politics, Michael, I don't want to talk politics. And I go, me neither. I just want to be dumb. (laughing) Just be dumb right now. Like everybody says, let's just get dumb. That's why you get high and drink. I don't want to be dumb. Yeah. I want to sit here and be dumb, right? And just yell out random shit. Like, I'm geeked up looking for an eater. Hey. (laughing) You know what an eater is? Hey. You know what an eater is? Do I? Alex, you an eater? No. How you not an eater? No. You not an eater, bro? No, I'm not. Chris, you an eater. You got a fiancee and you not an eater? No. Chris, say he's an eater. You got a damn right, Chris, an eater. You know, happily married man. Yeah. You not an eater? Well, you got to be an eater. I'm embracing it because I want it to offend me. I don't like the nickname of girls being given us when it comes to-- What's wrong with being a, a munch? I don't like that. Why don't you like that? I don't know. I'm just a munch. I did the poor munch podcast, but you probably ain't gonna see for another month because you know, they put our episodes weeks, weeks later. But they had a good, they got a, they, they called it WWE. What is it? Worldwide eater. And I like that. And that makes me feel like a champion. Wait, wait, why are you a world wide eater? It's because it just makes you feel better. It's just be called a random eater. You know what it's be called a eater? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what it's be a eater? I'm gonna be special. Yeah, yeah, yeah. WWE. Mm. Worldwide. My eater. You wanna be a world wide eater? Alex the champion. No. Get you a motherfucking belt. You need a belt. Put a fucking mouth on it? They basically just calling you like Deanna Trump. Yeah. What does she do? She's a world wide dicks of it. But that's fucking dicksy. See, God, we're not talking about fucking dicks. Yeah, but the opposite of that. Listen, because I don't, I don't, I don't want to be that. I'm not, I don't want to be that. I'm not, I'm not going to be that. I'm not going to be that. Why would you bring up? They just saying, oh, you're a world renowned pussy. Yeah, that's not. But what made you think about sucking coxmonies? Word is born, bro. Because when you talk about points, they don't know. They don't have no world wide. We talk about pleasure and our wives over here, man. Just tell us, tell us what's up. It's so big. Hey, man. Oh, damn. What happened, man? What happened, bro? What happened, bro? What happened, bro? What happened, bro? Yo, when you locked it down? When you locked it down? What happened, man? I'm never going to tell the world. I ain't going through that shit. That shit is crazy. What happened, bro? I didn't realize we had ocus. I just picked you up. I don't like what they were doing. Ocus, the past few weeks, man. Yo, free ocus. I need the free ocus. Free ocus. Free ocus. I need a new episode of Flagrant, man. Did it go well? You got to watch it, man. We had him and, uh, we had him and just sleep. Well, whoo. Am I ruining it? Everybody else knows about it. Yeah. Just watch it. I just don't like it because it's such a sensitive subject. That's your wife. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Public. Well, can I say what I want to say? Of course. This is what we really wanted to say. All I wanted to say is simply this. Keep your wife off the hook. Keep it up. Keep it up. Keep it up. Keep it up. Why does your wife have a microphone in her face? Not allow your wife to start a motherfucking podcast, bro. Nice. Okay. There can be one entertaining in this family. It is shall be me. I'm the comedian. I'm out here on this row and I'm out here getting the money. Let me use some of this money to help you do some other things, yo. Because you don't need a microphone in your face because you won't fuck around and ruin us. All right. Not just you. Uh-uh. But go watch the episode. We had a great talk with Akasha Jesslene and it was awesome and it was very funny. I don't want to have to explain because that's my wife. I'm always having my wife back. Yes, as you said. And but guess what? And so much of this stuff was bullshit. And then there are things that she said she was a virgin. She was never a whore. Could I have a video of her talking about sleeping with a bunch of men? Was it not real? She never said she slept with it. She said I was popping my pussy at Frappars and she's a sheltered Indian girl who thought that meant dancing. And then the rest of us were like, what the fuck did you really mean by that? So we had that conversation. But like all like her being a whore completely out of context. Like what did she talk about? Say it, say it, say it. She literally we discussed everything on the podcast. Do you know she got most fucking cocks? No. No. Never said that. There was never a video about that. She said that Akasha's balls smell like a homeless person. Thank you. Nice step crew with the shot boy. They call her chicken crew. Yeah. Why would she say that? That's a good point. So we had those. I don't say this. - What the fuck? - No lots of episodes. - My brother clears up a lot of shit. - My brother's. - And also she just acknowledges, like, "Yo, that was stupid." Like, I shouldn't be fucking sure that I can see why the audience thought it was this thing. Like, there was a lot of quote, "Delete the podcast." - Delete art? - No more influences. No, I'm talking about her. - Oh, we're working on it. - No influences. I don't want, you don't let your wife be influences. Don't let your wife be podcasted, man. - Not about letting. - No, let. - No, let. - No, let. - No. - No, there's certain things we can't do. - Yeah. - 'Cause we know that it's detrimental to our situation. - You should just encourage your wife not to. - No, I didn't encourage. No, no, no, no, no. - Rules. - Yeah, something, no, no, no, no. Something's when they detrimental to us. No, she encouraged you, not to cheat. - They do that. - No, no, she tells you don't fucking cheat. - How well did that work? - Everyone is fucking well. It's very well, it made me stop. - Maybe if she was encouraged to do that, or me it's the set, right? - Hey, man, you don't think your wife was like, "Get these microphones away from the radio." Oh, she's the fuck out here. - That's, but that's true in our marriage. - But no, that's true. - But all of that is true. - You are the Jess Lee singer. - Yes, all of that is true. - I'm in the fucking radio station putting on an ax, sniff, and siege while in the fuck out. Yes, embarrassing myself and embarrassing my fucking way. - Yo, I'm glad we could have this intervention here. - Absolutely. - That's what we're doing. - It's true. - Oh, yes, it's Christmas spirit. So I'm saying all that I have to say, women learn from my mistakes. Stay in the fuck out of these podcast. Be on these motherfucking podcast. Don't be an influencer. - Okay. - I know she wouldn't do it, but suppose your wife said you listen. Me and my friends, - No. - These great conversations. - Fuck no. - Black effect. - I want to be on black effect. - Black effect. - I want to write a book. - I want you to champion in black female voices. - You're putting me on black. - Oh, a book I wouldn't mind. If it's a book about. - 'Cause you can edit it. - Yeah. - Oh no, we take it out for it. - You're not gonna just call me a regular eater. - I know why I like this. - I want to be a worldwide eater. - W, jump. - All right, but no. See, that's different because books are well thought out. - Yeah. - You're actually sitting down. You're fleshing out ideas. You have a concept. You have a topic. - Yes. - You have an agenda that you're actually pushing through this book. Like a book can actually help somebody, especially if you're sharing your real life experiences. But just getting on a podcast, trying to make jokes, and I'm the comedian? - Yes. (laughs) - No. - Ready. - Yeah, you got it. You saw it made him laugh. - Ready. - You made him laugh a lot. You get it in it. Helicons. - A lot of them. - No, man, no. No, no, no. - What was your favorite name? - Jada Pinkett. - Jada Pinkett's thing. That is phenomenal. Whoever came up with that shit, this is just, (laughs) Jada Pinkett's thing was fucking hilarious. - They said her podcast is called Red Dot Table Talk. (laughs) Red Dot Table Talk. It was fucking hilarious. By the way, man, there's another thing before we go to commercial, man. Man, these racist jokes be so good. - We are. - Maybe rooted in racist jokes. - No. - Hey, come on, man. You gotta laugh at some of the things. - We asked her, we asked her, "Where's any of the shit funny?" She was like, "No, Red Dot Table Talk." - Red Dot, Jada Pinkett's thing is the host of Red Dot Table Talks fantastic. - Man, get that man a fucking rage, y'all. - Yeah. - Get a drum of some, Alec. (laughs) (laughs) Seriously, that shit was good. It was another one. What was the other one on? - Well, like the cops, 22, maybe left. - Oh. Adam 22, Adam 22, sent me a picture of Akasha's face put on to Adam. - I gotta get this. - But yeah, they were cooking. - No, I said it. - Somebody said somebody said to another one, they was like, "Um, just because you look like. " What's the deal from the Simpsons? - Apple. - This 'cause you look like Apple. Don't be a Simpsons. - Oh, there was a song, no, no, no, no. There was a song that was done. And then somebody said that we took down the song, which is absolutely bullshit. We've never done that ever. But like, and one of the bars was. - Yeah, look at this one. - One of the bars was, yeah, just 'cause you wanna be a poo, doesn't mean you have to be a Simpson. - Damn. - That's hard. - That's hard. - Damn. - I think your guy's name is Crack Amico. - Yes, Crack. - Oh, you can make some pictures. - Yeah, he does a lot of like, like, roast me rap songs in the. - To eat one. - No, I don't know if we're gonna play. (laughs) Sorry, Crack. No, we don't play the whole thing. - Jonathan, we wanna watch it so bad, though. - No, no, I mean, I really, I'm gonna be honest with you, man, it's hard for me to watch people I know go through this kind of shit, yeah. Even though I know it comes with the territory. - No, this was all internet and it was fucking them. - I mean, it comes with the territory. I get it. I don't like to see it, you know what I mean? - No, it's horrible. - Especially when, you know, I can't get no jokes in it. Like, at least. - Yo. - Where's the music? - No. (laughs) - Oh, so, so everybody's gonna have fun with it. Everybody can have fun with it. - I'm gonna have fun with it. - That's just gonna happen. I see, I see how it is. I'm texting y'all like, "Yo, it's a couch good, yo." A couch good, you know. - I had a lot of people reach out to say, "That's how new is getting fucked up with like, people that are not connected to this at all." Where message me, yo, is, "Akosh, okay." - Yeah. This is the first thing that's given I had that didn't, and then the argument, 'cause three hours was just talking about that. - Oh, really? - Yeah. 'Cause it was just, it was, yeah. It's just like, the situation got its own like, reality, and then once it takes its own reality. - You know how when you realize it's dumb? You realize it's dumb. When you're sitting around trying to explain it to somebody else, because we even at the panel today, you got all of these distinguished jerks. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they've just, who just know, they've been hearing something today. These are the most refined jerks. - Yeah. - In America, I'll sit around and I'm just like, "All right, so here's what actually happened." And if we just, the editor of the New Yorker, Fox says, "I came up." - Yeah, but the four of them, for the same thing. - And I'm listening to this show and talk, so I'm like, oh, so wait, she wasn't talking about sleeping with other guys. - Exactly. - Andro was like, "No, you know, she's the same, she popped that pussy." And Stephanie goes, "Pop that pussy." (laughing) (laughing) I don't think, "Pop that pussy." I'm not that pussy. - I don't think that's something I should say. - The crit, it's like, you see my things, you see my things start to like get their old rally. The shit happens with us every single fucking week, right? So, but it is, you do really feel for somebody when it's their wife. I know they put their relationship out there and that's fucking dumb, don't do that, but. - And I respect that he addressed it. - Oh no, he's gonna address it. - I don't give a fuck. - Stephen A. Smith, when I was on the panel, Stephen A. Smith this week, man, it was funny, 'cause Stephen A. Smith said, "You know, he's on every day." He's on every day for the first take. He's on his podcast every day. But he doesn't address, you know, everything that people say about him. And I'm like, bullshit. - Yeah, Stephen, come on. - But, but, but, but, but his point, he was like, I addressed about 2% of what people actually say about. - Yeah. - And he was like, I only address it when it benefits me. - Yeah, okay. - And it's right and it's true. - Yeah. - The thing about it, show that we addressed 100% of what we never have a podcast. - If we addressed 100% of what people say about it, we all only address 2%, I barely address that. I'm like, Stephen A. I address it when I think it's beneficial for me. - Beneficial for me. - Or when it's so big, you can't ignore it. Like, this is one of those things where it was just so big, you can't ignore it. Like, us just pretend I have a podcast talking about like, oh, the boats of Venezuela, like, we all really want to know, it depends. Because for me, it's like if I've already addressed it, the way I want to address it. - Let me ask you a question. What was a more precise targeted strike? - The boats of Venezuela. - It's so hard, it's so hard. - I don't want to say it, but I was not gonna say it. - Oh, what? - You're gonna say a car to the wife of that? - God damn, bro. - What? - No, I wasn't gonna say that. - What? - What? - You guys didn't have that. - Oh, she don't? - No. - Oh. - I didn't know? (laughing) - I didn't know. - How does this do? - I don't know if they know it. - It's one of those things that you don't really pay no attention if somebody tells you it's there. You just, it's like the Mandela effect. Like, you don't, don't, don't do that. Don't, I didn't do that. (laughing) - Is it baronstein bars or fernstein bars? - Oh my God, let's pay some bills. Let's do it. (upbeat music) - All right, let's get back to the show. We got charge announcement. - Hey. - The announcement is Rhode Island March. I think it's 28th. I'm gonna be there at the Rhode Island comedy festival. And I will see you out there. It's a city that we did not go to last tour, but we'll see you there. All new material. I'll see you there in March. You can think it's at DeAndreShulls.com. - Bong. - Allen, you got charge announcements? - I have a show. It's called AM Mornings. - Okay. - And so it's a playoff of things that exist now, like radio where you have people who call in for whatever topic you have, but just a new age take on it. Everybody has to show their face. 'Cause I just hate the fact that people are online and you either have bots or you just have people being super polarizing. And I think we're all more alike than we care to believe. And so yeah, my show AM Mornings, you call in every Sunday 11 a.m. - That's my dog. - Yeah. - Oh, it's fun. I've been doing it a couple of practice episodes. We have, we're up to like 300 people signed up right now. It's like, it's moving. - Almost flat for one. - Patreon. - Oh, okay, okay, okay. So, congratulations, brother. My church announcement is make sure you're out there for your order, I'll send you a halls, new memoir, I'll send you out. It'll be out next year. Be a black privilege publishing my book in print. Go out there in pre-order, two chains. The voice in my head is God. That'll be out next year as well. Go out there in pre-order. Tell the deaf do we parent by just hilarious. And listen, man, stocking stuff for Christmases right around the corner. Don't listen to you else in the tent. The reading is very important. Okay, go out there and purchase some books, man. We got Don Staley, uncommon favor on them bookshelves right now. Cheryl McKissack, the black family who built the America on those bookshelves, decisions decisions from Mandy and Weezy on those bookshelves, man. So, make sure you go pick up those books for the holidays, okay? Now, O'Dell Beckham, I thought this was interesting. Yeah, what happened? Well, I think sometimes people live their life as they should, right? They live their life and they talk about their experiences and they talk about what they went through. And I think they forget that when they're on these podcasts and these other platforms and it goes on the internet, they're talking to 99% of people who don't know what the fuck they've been talking about. So, O'Dell Beckham was talking about the struggles of making NFL money and you know, he got outraged because he said that $100 million is tough to make that last forever. Can we play the clip? Right here today, as we speak, I'm gonna be straight for the rest of my life. No question, right? I don't think everybody is in that. And when you've sacrificed your whole life to get here and you're like, "Yeah, I played 10 years in the league." And I always explain this to people like, "Bro, you give somebody a five year 100 million dollar contract, right? What is it really? It's five years for 60. You get in the tax, do the math, that's 12 a year, you know, that you have to spend, use, save, save, invest, flaunt, whatever, however, it's just being real. I'm a biker or I'm, give my mom a house. I'm gonna do everything cost money. So if you're spending $4 million a year, that's really 40 million over five years, 80 years, you know, and now you start breaking down the numbers, it's like, that's a five year span of where you're getting eight men, can you make that last forever? And now you always hear the people who ain't us and ain't been in the position, like, "Oh, well, that was last lifetime." Well, you're not getting no sympathy for that one, my boy. That's number one. Number two, yes, you can make $40 million last forever. All right, 60 million, but yeah. And now I will say, it's an interesting conversation because I always say the best thing that ever happened to me was I got money much later, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was at John Hope Bryant's event this week. And that was one of the questions that somebody asked me. They was like, you know, "Yo, what's the worst thing? "What's the worst financial decision you ever made?" And I honestly haven't made one. And the reason I haven't made one is because, as I always say, small people learn from their own mistakes, wise people learn from the mistakes of others. And the fact that I got money much longer, much later in life. And, you know, I've never had devices that other people had, like, you know, it's easy to say things like, I don't want no Bentley. I don't want no Phantom when you can't afford it. All right. But you really know you about that life when you can afford it. I don't want that shit. Like I said, don't do nothing for me in any way, shape, or form. I literally like, you know, helping other people in some way, shape, or form. Like, I would be that type of financial decision. When you hit these people, when you hit these stories about, oh, this guy gave half of his wealth to such and such and said blah, blah, blah. I know for a fact I wouldn't be that kind of person, because I'm that kind of person now. So whatever you do with $100, you're probably going to do it with $100 million. Whatever you do with $1,000, you're probably going to do it, you know, $1,000 million. You don't want to fuck that. Well, so he didn't just make the $100 million. He got the, I'm sure he got a sponsorship. I'm sure he did commercials. He does, I'm sure he does. You know, all these other different things. There's like an engagement fee that there's tons of other ways to make money when you're, but what I think is really important and what I think is unfortunate in terms of like the messaging here. It's like, if you're making $100 million over what, what is it, five years? Yeah. Yeah. So that's 20 million a year, right? Now again, he has taxes getting taken out and he also has his agents. You need some managers and all that. Of course, yes. But let's, let's just do, he said 60, let's just do 50, right? So you're getting like 10 a year. You can just let $10 million in a bank account and at a very conservative rate. Let's say you get 5% back, right? What is that? $500,000, right? That's what you're just gonna get on interest. Yes. It's $500,000 every year, right? You can find a way to live off $500,000 a year. Can you flash and do the bling and buy the fucking Rolls Royces and all these things? Because guy has a $9 million car collection. Why? Exactly. So like, there's some personal accountability that needs to be held here. It's like that amount of money you can live for the rest of your life and your family never has to touch a single thing. But you have to live a different lifestyle than maybe the one that you want to live. And when you're a young kid, and there's these things that you always dreamed about buying, I understand how you feel compelled to buy them. But let's not put out the messaging like you can't do it. Like you can. You just chose to buy frivolous shit. They're not assets that you can increase in value over time. I like spending money on experiences. Yeah. All that on a vacation all day long. Like that's cool. But the fandoms and the ghosts and the jewelry and all that stuff. I don't like that. Why? I don't have that. That's not in me. I shop at H&M and Zara when I want to splurge. Okay. Other than that, I'm ordering off cool F&D on Instagram, ordering off T Moo. I keep tags on my clothes. I keep the tags on the clothes from Zara to them to take back. Yeah. Oh fuck. I go gag. I don't think he's that impressed. Some of these cars you can probably sell back. But there's other questions like why wouldn't you just lease the car? Like where's your financial advisor that goes, hey, you're going to get bored of this car in a year. You like flexing. Least it for a fucking year, then give it back. How much driving are you even doing yourself? You know, like a lot of this I think is keeping up with the Joneses and when you're with really. Oh yeah. So it's like all the other really wealthy successful people have these things. They have a big boat. You're like, all right. Well, I'm going to get a boat when I go to the St. Bart's. It's like, well, maybe you've got to hang out your boys boat and keep it up with the Joneses, keep it up with the JZs. Keep it up with the Perks. These guys are also athletes. They're competitive by nature. Yes. They want to have the best they want to be seen as the best and they shoot themselves in the foot. I mean, it's like, hey, when I heard Marshall Lynn say that he never spent the football check, that shit puts so much in perspective for me. I heard this years ago. Yeah. And it's like when you start having multiple screams of income, if you put yourself in that position, God bless. If you have one of those screams of income that takes care of everything, your lifestyle and all of that, all of that other stuff should be great. Like, that should be just money that you're saving, putting in your S&P 500. It's like your family. Putting in your, you know, savings account that builds interest, like that's what you should be doing without money. That's the thing you can't buy things. You can buy assets. Yeah. You can buy property. Yeah. You can buy, you know, a fucking car wash. Like, there's tennis thing you can got, but they're not going to be- Crystal. Crystal. You can buy franchises. But they might not be super glamorous and successful. And I think that's something he got a record with, which is like, "Yo, you want to buy glamorous bougie shit?" And now you probably don't have as much money as you could if you invested that money. And not risky investments. I'm not buying that. Not even risky. I'm not buying that. I can't appreciate what value in some way. There's nobody that makes a hundred million dollars in their life that should ever not have enough money to spend for the rest of their life. Plain and simple. That's the end of the discussion. Bulls fucking stuff. Yeah. You can't live off that. You really are doing something wrong. Speaking of which, Trump wants to get rid of income tax. Now we're talking. No, we not. Why we not? No. Why not? I did research on this because, you know, everything sounds good in theory. But yeah. We've just got this in the tweet. Hold on. Let's listen. Because the money we're taking in is so great. It's so enormous that you're not going to have income tax to pay. Whether you get rid of it or just keep it around for fun or have it really low, much lower than it is now, but you won't be paying income tax. We've slashed one trillion dollars. So here's an interesting thing about this, right? Everybody's going to be, oh, he's just taking care of his rich friends, blah, blah. His rich friends don't make income. They make capital gains. Steve Jobs got paid a dollar a year in income or whatever it was from Apple. All these guys are making their money on the stock market or they have stock options for the companies they work for. They find these ways to get out of the income tax hustle because income tax at that point is 50%. Odel Beckham, Jr., exactly what he was talking about. As an athlete, you make income. Lombard makes income, right? The owner of the Lakers makes capital gains, right? Because the Lakers is probably held in some entity and then when they sell it, you're buying the entity that owns it. And then you only pay the capital gains, which is a bar. Or they keep taking loans against it. This is the greatest hustle of all time. They take loans against their assets and loans are tax-free, but you're not paying. So I understand the immediate reaction to this, which is, oh, the rich are just going to get richer. It's like, yeah, of course, there are tons of people that are making lots of money that will benefit this. But like the billionaire class that Elon's in them, they're not making fucking, yes, they're making some income. But the majority of their wealth is held up in this thing that is outside of the taxation system. So if you want to find a way to tax, that's shit. Let's talk. I'm all about talk. [BLANK_AUDIO] - It's not the rich, tax the trillionaires, the billionaire, like if you want to follow the wealthy, the real, real money. But this right here is gonna benefit, no. - I thought the pushback to this was the fact that even if you get rid of income tax, all the additional money you have to spend because of his tariffs is the same as paying income tax. - I wrote some of this shit now, that's not her. - But that is your choice. Like you could choose to not buy shit if you don't want. - No, this might be horrible for the economy. - Sure, it would be terrible. - Well, you're already gonna buy that anyway, and now you have income tax. - This is why it's important to reach it. - Raising the price. - This is not gonna happen, we can't, I don't think that our like financial system would exist without income tax. I think no, I don't think it's possible. What I'm saying is the knee jerk reaction that I think many people, myself included, first thought was, oh, this is just gonna help the rich people. The rich people already aren't paying income tax. They've found ways around. Get a minute, first of all, a rich person, okay? - No, you're not, you and I are just regular. - You and I are just regular. - We just regular. When I first heard that, the first thing I thought was shit, 'cause it sounds good in theory, right? Imagine you do not have to pay no income tax. Whoa, you know what I mean? How chunky those checks would look. But then it's like, nah, like when you actually do a little bit of research on it, right? First of all, the government loses this main source of money. - That's what I'm saying, it's not possible. - Over night. And so they said they would have to rebuild around some type of new taxes. Like it would be a national sales tax or a price of goods that shit would go up. It'd be like a wealth tax. - He's saying that. - The tariffs are gonna. - Yeah. But the government loses 50% of its money, right? So that's massive cuts to every major program, Medicaid, Medicare, federal education funding, infrastructure, other programs, snap veteran services, grants to states, schools, police, roads. America would be a shit hole country. - Yeah. - Right into the hole. - This is like his 50 year mortgage scheme. He's just throwing shit against the wall, hoping to distract from the shape of the economy. He knows the economy is the problem. - Right. - So he's just trying to come up with a, whether it's here's gonna be $1,000 every citizen or now with the dels. They're gonna give everybody $2,000 as charity, right? - $250 to $25 million. - These are schemes. These are hustle, man. - I don't understand anything. Why do I go through the treasury? - I like that one. - I don't know. - But why are through the treasury? Why did that money have to go through the treasury? - It's like they're gonna-- - That's the point. If they wanna make it, well, because-- - They're gonna open up. - He's not gonna pay taxes now, because he's giving away this massive tax-free charity gift. So it's saving him money. Now granted, it'll go into the pockets of people, but they're routing it through the government. Right? It's also, but if you wanna give the kids, why don't you just give the kids the wrong one to be upset about, maybe the 50 year mortgage. - Yeah, 50 year mortgage I think is a little bit better. It's like you save a couple hundred dollars a month, but now you're gonna be paying so much more over this time. - Right, now they're gonna raise interest rates, 'cause now they're exposed to more potential losses for another 20 years. - By the way, I'm not mad at this evening. I just wanna know why they're going through the treasury. The treasury's not a nonprofit. I guess not, why would it, why would it-- - He's not a foundation. - I don't know. - Because they're going to give each kid a-- - Investment account. - Yeah, I think it's like-- - The person doesn't get the money. It's just an investment account. So it's really just taking money and investing it back into America. - No big deal. - I said this on the online broadcast, it's fine, but they took another idea from us. It is no big deal. That's what we do with the brain child or brain child. - You know the problem? - Talk to me. - We really don't remember none of this shit. - That is a problem. - Yes. I think it's a good idea because the reason why I thought it was good is 'cause it gets, one of the big chasms in the economy right now is that there are people invested in the market seeing these massive gains over the last decade. And then the majority of the people, at least 50% of the people in the country, are not invested at all. So they keep on hearing the Biden administration and say the economy's great. And they're like, what do you mean? It's fucking great. It's not great at all. I'm not invested in video. I'm not invested in Palantir. I'm not investing in these companies. - Oh, I have no fucking stocks. Exactly. - I hate it when they did that shit. - So this is the thing. - So these kids now get these invested at a very young age. And ideally, the money is invested in these companies and these companies continue to grow. And by the time they're 18, hopefully, if America continues to thrive and succeed, now they're invested in the success of America, which we would want every kid in America to be invested in, ideally. - And it will start an account for a kid as soon as they're born. And so now that gets everybody more invested in stock market or cash, they're aware. - Now you have financial literacy because you rely on it. - I got it. - And that's actually a good thing. - I got to see it to believe. - Of course, we have to. - I don't think-- - 'Cause I still don't even know, have we met any of these military people who got some of that money? $130 million, that was supposed to go for them. - I don't know. - They're in the government shutdown. - That's the fourth Pentagon. - Yeah, we should've got about that. You know, Donald Trump, Donald Trump's organization is getting $150 million for one of those casinos in Queens. - I can't. Oh, it's a fact. I'm not making this-- - Oh, no, no, I'm not denying that. I'm just, I'm like conflicted about putting a casino in New York City. Are you not conflicted about your president taking $150 million? - Okay, well, of course. - We're about to get three of them. - Well, I think three are three of them. But I don't know if any of them are actually gonna be erected. - I think that there's like land that was set aside. - Oh, no, no, three is coming. - You really can. - Yeah, I think. - Oh, yeah, they improved it. - Thank you, you got to prove it. - Yes, Trump could receive $150 million tied to Bally's $4 billion casino plan at the fairy point golf course in the Bronx. - Why? - I don't know if that's exactly, I don't fucking know why. Does he own the land or something? What is the, I have no fucking idea. - I know, he has a golf course up there in the Bronx. I don't know. - Is that the one when you come off? What's the bridge, is it the-- - White zone. - White zone? - Yeah, you see that with a lot of the little-- - Maybe. - I don't get fine more. - I don't know, but yeah, I don't like the way that sounds, but if he owned the land before he was president and they're buying the land from him, then that just-- - I really don't know. The projects included in the show. - I don't know. - Yeah, Bally's paid the Trump organization $60 million. Okay, I get really. - Yeah, now the point of it. - Yeah, that's why I really think a casino in Times Square would have been great, guys. - So we had this debate. - Yeah. - Okay, so it's like, there's obviously concerns with a casino, okay, let's look at the fun stuff, right? It's, you're out, you're having dinner with your boys. You're like, do we want to go out? I don't know if I want to go to a nightclub. Fuck, you want to go to the casino and just hit the tables for a little bit? - Yeah. - You want to go to the casino and maybe there's a little party there or whatever, like, it's something to do that's open 24 hours, it's kind of interesting. There's something going on, it's interesting. Then the nox, of course, and this is less for a city like New York because there's so many tourists, but when you ever see the people aren't going to a lot, then has a casino, then it's like, its own people are spending the money in the casino. And then the idea is that the casino is extracting the wealth of the people, which you don't want. If you, when you want people coming to New York City and millions traveling all the time, and you want them already spending money in restaurants and dump a little bit more over there, where people have jobs and they work and then you're like, "Okay, that could potentially be good." - Times Square is a fucking tourist attraction. - But wouldn't they be dumping less than the local economy 'cause they're gonna, traditionally, everybody loses the casino ultimately. - So the idea is that if you really want to do it right, you would do it kind of how the net stadium did or where you have local businesses have representation there. So you have the selca, the diner, gets that- - Which they had there. - And that's what the net said. And that's what I would do if I'm a local legislator. I'd be like, "Okay, you want a casino "in fucking Times Square?" You're not gonna put McDonald's and all these other things in here. You're gonna put our local business in there. So they can thrive. I saw, I used to see all the flames, like they had 'em. Like it was, I thought it would be a good thing. And we act like this hasn't worked in different places. Like it clearly works in Vegas, right? - Do you have any knowledge why the Times Square one didn't go through? - Yeah, because the local, what's called the CAC, I think it's called, I don't remember a CAC stand for, but they voted it down. They voted down 42. - Yeah. - You know why? Broadway. - Oh. - Broadway, Broadway wasn't really fucking with it like that. They had some, they had some people from Broadway like, "Oh, what's my guy name?" Fuck, the actor. He's facing in my mind. Wendell Pierce. - Okay. - Wendell Pierce, I'm sorry, Wendell. Wendell Pierce, Wendell Pierce was down for it, you know what I mean? Because he saw a lot of the things that, you know, rock nation and SL Green wanted to do in regards to the casino and what they wanted to do for Broadway, but Broadway felt like it was gonna bring too much traffic crime. And they thought that it would be taking away from the essence of Broadway. I love Broadway, right? I go to a lot of Broadway plays, but the Broadway audience is aging out. And there's only but so many times, you're gonna go to see a Broadway play, you know? - That should be very concerned. - I was in Atlanta earlier this week, and my Greta was telling me how she came to New York to come see Hamilton. But that's the type of people who are still coming to see those plays. Like, people come from out of town and see Hamilton, and MJ the musical, and the Lion King, and all of this stuff like that. It's like, yo, I'll see probably everything on Broadway at least once. How many times do I need to see it? - Yeah. - You know what's so bad? Every new show that came out this year, they're all in the red. There's not a single successful new show on Broadway. - But it takes time to build a show. - They said this the first year. - Really? Usually Broadway shows that would take a decade to make money out of something. - Some of the-- - What other investment is in Times Square? There's no investment being made in Times Square. Times Square, New York City should look like Abu Dhabi. - You made a big investment in Times Square. - Yeah. - Disney has over the last 15 or 20 years. - Before I was like, what, Broadway is that later? - Like Lion King. - But those are the only ones that people go and shit. - You need something else, man. Like, the casino would have been perfect. - Yeah, you got to see those in Detroit that work. But you got to see those in Maryland that work. - Detroit is like the example where I would be hesitant about. Maryland. The problem with Broadway tickets are too expensive. Yeah, the tickets just keep getting more and more. And then the only people that can afford it are people who are six years old, they're retired. Yeah, well. So also there's not a culture for young people to go watch shows on Broadway. No, I think it would be sweet, but they would go. And I agree with you on that. And there's dope shit, you can go see Scraging things on Broadway, fire. You can go see M.J. the musical on Broadway, fire, Hamilton, fire. I guess dope ass shit to go see on fucking Broadway. I like maybe happening. Say it please, absolutely phenomenal. I'm not joking. That is the name of it. I'm not joking. Maybe happy endings. I ain't never seen that one the way. If you Google right now, Google right now. Darren Chris is starring in it right now. Fucking Chris Google that shit is going to be a bunch of Asian parlors. Probably it's maybe happy and a bunch of Asian fucking massage parlors. Yeah, you have a very good feeling. OK, maybe happy ending. Sorry. OK. I never saw that one. I'm going to see that by-- May art Asian too. Well, he's not, which there was a big thing about it, but it's originally a Korean-- I seen you wiki on Broadway, musical. Wicked the movie sucks, bro. You saw the new one or the old one? Yeah, I saw the new one. The kids love it. But that shit ain't for me. Really, you didn't fuck with it? I'm like, first one, fire. Yeah, but I don't want to know the prequel to that shit. Like, that shit was kind of spooky. You know how the 10-man became the 10-man? Yeah. And no heart. A fucking handicap girl, he was smashing. Right? A handicap. A handicap which he was smashing put a spell on him. Oh, is that it? Yes. Oh, I didn't. Put a spell on him and then their sister tried to reverse the spell. My fuck will become the 10-man of some shit that has a vendetta against the girl because the girl in the wheelchair was like, it was my sister. So that the shit is so crazy. That's crazy. The power of the line, I thought was a nice gay lion. I had the little bow in his hair. But what? He was just a fucking lion that was living in a zoo and the witch let the lion go. And so he had the guard and he was so used to being a kept lion. Yeah. Now, when he was out in the world. He was scared. Scared as fuck. The scarecrow. It's all about cheats. Now that I think about it. It is all about cheats. The scarecrow. The scarecrow light was supposed to marry one witch. She was supposed to marry on the Ariana Grande, but fell in love with the green witch. Yeah. Elseba. And then fucking, they took him out, they took him out to feel the beat of some shit. And so they put a spell on this fucking woman that she put a spell on him so he couldn't feel pain. So he ended up being a scarecrow. This shit is like, what the fuck? And it was one of the other things with my kids, you know, my kids love it. I'm enjoying it. So I'm in and out of sleep, seeing how shit plays. And I'm like, man, I'm going back to fuck this shit. And I'll wake back up. Like, what the fuck the tin man, they won't go back to sleep, wake back up. What the line? What? Go back to sleep. Then they showed a house falling on the handy cap woman and the original her legs are hanging out like this. Alps in there thinking her legs are so limp because the house fell on her. She was a paraplegic. The whole time. Oh, fucking time. And how you a witch in a wheelchair, what the hell can you walk, have a fucking cadabra. Goddamn, yo, wicked man, that's your name for me, you know what I mean? His name, like it was, he was a love, I don't know why you want to go be so dark. You were affected by it, huh? My older daughter was telling me how the original wicked is actually dark. I didn't read the original wicked. I know we're going off to see the wizard in all that shit. No, no, the original wizard of ours, whatever the fuck. Bro, they showed a fucking. They showed him trying to make the yellow brick road that shit was crazy. Why who's doing it? The Mexican. I had all the little Mexicans and they was pushing these horses and they was making the yellow brick road. How do you know they was Mexican? They said it in the movie. No. Yes they do. They don't have real. God, they said it in the fucking movie, but they said, they said. It is the Mexican. But that shit up there, so they got witches and goblins and all this stuff and then Mexican. Bro, they say that shit in the movie, bro. Oh my. Bro makes the yellow brick road. He's crazy. Oh, the munchkins. The wow. Oh my. Poor labor from captured animals and munchkins. Oh, okay, fuck. Shit. Mexicans, my bad. I was in and out of sleep. I got you. That's cold. Did you see the 50 duck? Nah, yeah. Me neither. You saw that. I watched the first two episodes. How was it? Fire. Let's go. Fizz. Wow. I was impressed. Sean Corm got to be the dumbest motherfucker walk in the planet though. What are you doing? Why would he be recording all of that shit, Lee? How the 50 get that footage? Yeah, that's the graze bark. I heard of like the first like 10 minutes. Because footage from Diddy right before he got arrested. They said because Diddy was either shooting a documentary or had somebody filming everything. Yeah. So he bought the footage from that company? That would be my guess. That's hilarious. That's what I heard. I heard something like that. I don't fucking know. But why would you be recording that? If you're Diddy. I think he thought he was going to get off. He would be did and then he would have a document of his, of him overcoming situation. But showing what? I mean, it's just, it's him not way, it's nothing like particularly in flammatory. It's just him going around the city and talking to his attorneys and trying to figure it out. But it's juxtaposed against they have a lot of incredible archival footage. Like they really spent a lot of money. And when you look at it, you're like, God, like Diddy really has been in the press for 35, 40. You know, like basically it's all like, and they go way way back. Like it, you know, I heard they go back to the basketball game before that. I mean, there's pictures of him in Mount Vernon, there's like a five-year-old kid childhood friends. Like, it's very thorough. I mean, the one criticism I've read, and I don't know how fair it is, is it doesn't delve into the victim's stories as much as it could. But I'm only two episodes in it. And there is one woman, and I think episode one, and it's like a very emotional scene where she counts some of the stuff that happened to her. Like, I think it's well done so far. Oh, watching this weekend, I just, you know, for me, it's just like, I don't know why you would be recording. From the clips that I saw, it just seems like the highest level of arrogance, and it seems like he's just trying to manipulate his way out of the situation. Oh, talks about that on the tape. That's what I'm saying. Like, this is how we're going to play the media. This is how we're going to manipulate the media. Wow. Oh, but imagine if you're recording it, thinking you're going to make the doctor, you're recording, he was like, "Why would I ever put that on his head?" Like the book example. Yeah, it's alright if she writes a book, because we'll go back and edit it. What happened is they recorded it. They probably thought they could edit it and frame it how they wanted to, and then shit fell apart. Now, I'm guessing whoever filmed it was like, well, he's never going to buy this footage from because he's in jail now. And then 50s tapped in. Oh, I have to see. But why would I ever, my point is, why would I ever be talking like that in front of anybody? Even if I felt that way, why would I be having that conversation to be recorded? Well, that's one of the themes in the doc is that at a certain point, and they trace it back to City College because he skated on that essentially. He believed he was untouchable. Skated on Shine. Did they talk about that? Yeah, wait, wait, wait. I mean, the first episode, it's still uptown records, right? And they have some really crazy footage from inside the event at City College, which I've never seen before. You can see him in the middle of like the chaos. It's pretty damning footage. And the case that's made is he beat that. He had no business beating that. The label at that time wanted him gone. Andre O'Rell fought for him, kept them around. And then once he got past that, he's like, I can do anything. I just fucking had an event and nine people got killed. And I'm the king of New York. Yeah, I tell you one thing too, man, a lot of people saying shit like, you know, they think 50s being vindictive. To those people, I say, you just don't know the backstory of 50 and did it. And I, you know, even if people said, like, well, yeah, we know Diddy was messing with 50s baby mom or whatever, whatever, yeah, that's one thing, but you can't be a person taunting the other person about it. I think what's good about the film, and I don't mean this as a disc, you don't feel 50s fingerprints. But really? Yeah. Not at all. No, I'm not saying they are obviously there, and I can see the places where, in my opinion, there's certain information in there that only a 50 could get or have knowledge about, but you don't, it doesn't, you forget about him immediately. He's not narrating it. He's not in it. It, you know, it stands on its own. It's 50 to greatest anti-hero and hip up without doubt. He might be one of the greatest anti-heroes in entertainment. Notice I didn't say villain. No, he's an anti-hero. Yeah, he's an anti-hero. It's Stone Cold Steve Austin. Stone Cold Steve Austin. He's the rock. When the rock was a hill. Yeah, you know what I mean? And the reason I say he's number one over two-pop is because 50s lived. He's still here. God bless the dead, you know what I mean? But we don't know what part would have been at 40, 50, some years old. One thing we know about 50s, he is committed to being the anti-hero. And 50s said on life's on the line, nobody likes me and that's okay because I don't like y'all anyway, 'cause I don't like y'all anyway. Fuck all of y'all. - Well, the other thing is, Dame Dash saying that 50 was capping and he didn't really have anything. - Do you remember when 50% was supposed to be putting out a documentary about puff on Netflix? - Yes. - Where is it? - I think it still happened. - Yeah, right, he's capping. - Oh, that dash hush. Hey, wait, that, I can't wait. When you go make the dead dash documentary, okay? Now, right? - This is a, you might, some people might like it, some people might not like it, what, it's our real film. Like this is, - Oh, wow. - Okay. - This is legit. - And I'll say this, I came from the doctor's office today. The receptionist was talking about it. - Woo! - It's the number one most watched thing on Netflix right now. - On the subway? - The guy coming up the stairs was talking about it. - Chris, it's the number one most watched thing on Netflix, right? First of all, let's factor in three things. Number one is the documentary on Netflix. Number two is executive produced by 50 cent. Number three, it's about basically the downfall of one of the biggest celebrities ever. - It's epic. Like, it's one of the biggest celebrities ever. - Ever. Like this case is super intriguing to a lot of people. - I'll put it like this. I watched the first episode in a half last night. I was like, I gotta go to bed. I downloaded two on my phone so I could watch it in the subway on the way to the city. - Oh, wow. - I haven't done that in-- - Oh, wow, it's that good. - See, that's what I'm waiting for the weekend. 'Cause I don't wanna stop and go, I'm waiting till we go. I wanna watch y'all fool. Just knock it out in one slew. So look at 50 cent, man. - Shout out to them. - And it's funny 'cause when that, when that dad said that, you know, it's interesting, right? Like, how you just said, Chris, 50 does great work when it comes to documentaries. This is not even his first documentary. This man has already given us a hit franchise of a whole universe on television, right? 50 knows how to make good TV. 50 knows how to make good documentaries. So when you see that dash in the end of you say, didn't he say that he was gonna do a documentary in the documentary? Now, I was like, I'm showing it still coming, that's cat. That's because that ain't used to making the type of quality that 50 is making. So he won't do some shit in two days. See, you throw it up and throw it out, right? Quality shit takes time. - Takes time. I changed, I've only seen two episodes, but again, I wanna emphasize, he isn't all over this thing. And we know the back story and all that. I'm sure the temptation was there. He stepped back, you know, it feels like he let the pros do their job. That's the way to do it. - You know, 50 really haven't missed with TV and film, y'all. - It's unbelievable the transition. - Power, all the power's been off. - Oh, yeah, man, believable. - We forget about the joint that was on ABC, about the lawyer who became a lawyer in jail. - Oh. - Isaac Wright, you know what I mean? He's from Wisconsin, by the way. - I don't think they got me. - They didn't, but it was a good show. - Had a show on ABC, yeah. - The Iglo Beach of Fetsam saying that the murderer on Long Island recently. - Yeah, that was a doc, yeah. You're 50, man, 50's killing shit out here, man. It's Luke the 50. What else we got, man? Let's do some asking in it. What we got, oh, it's a good one. Moey_Cardina says, after Trump, you think the next Republican nominee will be worse or more neutral. Ben Shapiro bought up a fantastic one. - Yeah, but we talked about that here in the 80s before. - Yeah, but I didn't see it in this way. - The next candidate, I don't know what the next candidate for the Republican party will be, because the Republicans are gonna be in the same boat that the Democrats were in in 2020. Like, you know, after you come off a generational, you know, talent of a politician like Obama was with Democrats and you can say whatever you want about Trump, he's so, once in a lifetime generational, you know, talent for a Republican party, they're not gonna have anybody that can captivate people in that way. They're not gonna be anybody that can create, you know, a coat like MagoFollowing. That's why I think that the whole Trump 2028 thing, that's why I believe they keep throwing that out there. I believe they keep throwing that out there, 'cause the more I do think they're gonna attempt to do that. But number two, it keeps Democrats and the media constantly talking, like they're going to be campaigning against Donald Trump. - Mmm. - So you're not even adjusting your playbook for who you may be playing in 2028, 'cause you're still trying to beat this team that you never beat. The Patriots can not go back and play the giants, those two times in the Super Bowl. - That's true. - It's over. - It's over. - You lost. - Yeah. - Okay. So you gotta prepare for who the next opponent may be. But they keep Democrats going through this old flip. You said it today on the panel. The show literally said this. We're having a conversation as two years old. - Mmm. - 'Cause it's true. They're still talking as if Donald Trump is campaigning. They're still trying to figure out what they did wrong. Y'all gotta get ready for the next game, baby. Okay, the next game is next year, 2026. The next game after that is 2028. And if you constantly are thinking like, oh, my next opponent is gonna be the same opponent that I'm fighting for the last decade, you wanna lose? - Mr. Bear, Bob. - You just say that. - You think he is gonna run again? - No, I think they're gonna try it. I don't think he's gonna happen. - Oh, go go. - And Mr. Bear, Bob, good boy. Which was Trump is enough of a political force and has enough magnetism to hold the Republican Party together. But right now you see this fissure growing in the Republican Party, right? And it seems quite divided. Trump is powerful enough to still hold those groups together. It was like, I don't think JD is, I don't know if he exactly said this, but the feeling I got from it was, is JD powerful enough to do that? Is Marco Rubio powerful enough to do that? And if not, they will fracture. And now you have almost like two different Republican parties. And do they eat away at each other and stop you from having this unified force which could beat the Democrats? Keep in mind, a lot of Republicans that are gonna feel dissolution about the cost of food and just affordability in general, in general, they might go back to the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party that they left when they voted for Trump. I don't go back to being traditional conservatives. Regardless, there's some very interesting things going on that right now the media is the marketplace for this next election. And we're not even close there. I didn't even see it like that. Nobody's, there are people, they're like Republican operatives that are fighting, they're fighting for what happens post-Trump. Absolutely. They're thinking, they're thinking Trump is old, they're thinking, we don't even know if Trump is gonna be here, or they're just like he's not running for in 2028. We have to push the party in a direction that we want. They got to do what Democrats didn't do, especially if Trump's policies continue to be very unpopular. Especially if the economy keeps fucking up the way that it is. Do you have to put some distance between you and oh boy, you know what I mean? That's something that the Democrats didn't do. No, they didn't. They didn't shame the Biden. Well, let's say, we'll see if they do it. All right, let's do one more. If you could see a vision of how your kids would turn out, would you? No, no, no, no. And she and me. You would? Oh yeah, I'm back to the future with it, baby. No, I want to like experience all the things that they do. That's the worst thing I could imagine. Yeah. No. I want to see all the things they do. The policy turns out bad, man. Oh God, and they don't have to live with that. Oh, but that's what I'm gonna have to tell you what. That's real, that's how it works. If you don't change the rules, God, you don't change the rules of the fucking hype. If God, sorry, Ro, I'm gonna say it. If God or whatever entity allowed you to see a vision of how your kids would turn out. If you get that vision, you're supposed to act on that. Like that's not a vision that you get and be like, but if you act on it, it might change the outcome. No, if I see my, if you have a vision and you know, your child is fucked up in some way, right? Like drug addict or something like that. Yes, you gotta figure out ways to intervene. And I'm gonna tell my child, though every older person in my life, grandmother, parents, whatever, when they would have visions about me, they would tell me, and it would absolutely impact how I would move. Like, I remember one time my grandmother told me, I had a dream, you got shot on this neighborhood, it was this neighborhood in my ass corner. I ain't never went to that neighborhood. Ever, you know what I'm saying? Like when you have a vision about something, you're supposed to act on that vision. You had a vision about Madison Square Garden. You act on it. What the fuck? Alex, you had a vision of my pain in your nails? I hate you. What is wrong with you? Did you not have a vision about me? No, I didn't. Some of y'all think we're brilliant. (laughing) Some of y'all think we're brilliant. We're brilliant. You're both right. Isn't as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple of idiots, you don't know shit and you're right too. It's the brilliant of this podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.