Wicked

- Yeah, I'm Charlotte Maynard. - Andrew Schultz. - We are the brilliant audience podcast back for another week of brilliant idiomists. Have a kind of walk out, how are you? - Feels good. - Feels good, man. - Feels good, as expected. You know, this is what I said last week. I hate to come in with that energy. - I'm nix and six. - Six. - Nix and six. - Why would we wait that long? - Well, listen, nix haven't lost. - I'm with you, but it's no straight game. - I'm with you. - How would we start losing? - I'm with them, extent. - I'm with you. I'm gonna give this person respect, though. I think that this person is gonna get to. - Now, I actually think, I think this person won game three and five. - I think it's a, you think it's a sweet? - I think it says, yo, my boy Joey Evry said this really well. It's like, the nix got a great chin. - Well, you could come at him. - Yeah. - You could hit him as hard as you want and they're just gonna fight and stay in there. They were down 14 and then ended up tying it at the end of the third. If you win the third quarter, I think a lot of times you're gonna end up winning the game and they've done this throughout the playoffs. - Listen, I don't understand why the nix have gotten so disrespected in the finals. I don't understand why it's two. - 'Cause they love the game. - I don't understand why they love the game. - I think the nix suffer from the same thing. - Democrats suffer from. - Oh, are we already gonna do this? - Yes. - Can we just have some fun with something that unites the world? - It's fun. - It's fun. - It's fun. - Because you can be a good candidate, right? You can even be a great candidate, but you're a part of a party that has such a bad brain. - It's the same thing. - God, Eastern Conference. - Okay. - You can be a team like the nix that is clearly in the playoffs been head and shoulders above everybody else in the league. But everybody's just like, what the what? - What the what? - What the what? It's the Eastern Conference. So they're not gonna do anything against these Western teams. These Western teams are just so much better. Not saying that's how people feel about the Republican party. I'm just saying that you can suffer from being a part of a brand. - They got better brand. - The West got better brand. The West got better brand because the West have had like more champions over the last one. It's been a while, right? - I gotta see. - It's been a while. Western Conference has always been. - Boston won. - Boston won a couple of years ago, but probably if you look the last decade, it's probably been mostly Western Conference. - I don't know why the Western Conference has that type of fucking. - I mean, the Western Conference has some incredibly elite teams. - Yeah. - If you had the Warriors Dynasty, like Lakers of New York. - Lakers of New York. - Wow. - Yeah. - They'll can't say anything. - Denver. - Shit, Denver. - Yes, man, you know. - Houston had nice little run. Like there was obviously a lot of teams in the West, but this New York Knicks team is tough. That's the thing that it's like, what do the Knicks fans always appreciate and maybe to a fault? - Great. - Toughness for it. And they're tough. They're mentally tough. We shot like shit in the first half. Couldn't buy a bucket. So the next team is incredibly tough and it has two things that are very important. - A real superstar. - We have a real superstar who in the fourth and the second, by the way, but in the fourth took over when he needed to take over. - Yes. - And we have real role players that step up in the playoffs. A lot of times teams have role players that are regular season role players and they get into the playoffs and you can't put them in the game. And I'll be honest, the Knicks got maybe a couple of those and that's why the lineups have gotten short. But you look at a guy like Josh Hart who maybe had a couple buckets of the whole game, 15 boards and absolute menace on the glass. - That was the difference. - No, you know who the difference was? - Mitchell Robinson. - No. - Okay. - Okay. - Oh yeah, that was violent. - All the cat haters. - That was violent. - No, no, cat did what he was supposed to do. - I'm saying all the cat haters start the regular season. This is game one against the alien. Game one against Goliath. Game one against the future of the Ohio. - Well, that's what they're talking about Wendy. - I know why. - We're gonna get them, let me just build it up. And Cat has been this big who is historically the best shooting big man in history. - So he said. - If you actually want to look at the numbers. - Yeah. - And I even saw, he said just we're gonna look at a date. Everybody was so dirt, dirt, dirt. No, no, no, the numbers say cat. One of the most talented big men. And then you meme him up and you make fun of him, et cetera. That this guy came up and showed the fuck out this playoffs and specifically in this game. Carried the Knicks when nobody on the team five of them. - About drive. - Yeah, but I don't think nobody on the side. - No, no. - Let me don't want to handle that. - But I don't want him at the top of the key. - People don't question cats game, they question the sass. - Well, they did question the little little sass. - They question toughness and they question defense. - It says when you do this on the court, they go question your toughness. You can't have the limp risk, bro. - You could have dildos in your pockets. If you played the way that you played a game on right there, I don't give a flying fuck. He was on fire on both ends, mind you. - Yeah, and Wendy's going to be fatigued in this whole series because you got to play at the top of the key because cat can play out there. And you running around trying to chase dogs around. Then you got to go down there and bang with guys like Mitchell Robinson, who should you get a lot of credit? - Yeah, that's it with a broken finger. There was times when Mitchell, I remember one part of the game, Mitchell dunked and he missed it. He was like, you could, yeah, like you thought they're playing with a broke fucking finger, bro. That's a big zesty, is that real? - That's not real. - That's not real. - No, that's not real. - That's shit, but no, I am polished, that's shit. - Dude, that should be his merch. - I pay it. - Big cash should have the big zesty. Why are you putting on lipstick in all types of shit? - But this is, is this AI? - Yes, it's AI. - Okay, and this is absolute hate from a sixers face. - That was crazy. - That was crazy. - Get out of here. Y'all are in canned food right now, I don't want to hear about that. - But I got the nicks and sticks only because, you said they got a chin, not just a chin. A grown chin. An adult chin. When you think about the nicks, I'm serious. - It just feels gay. - I don't even know what's out of the difference looking at cat. (laughing) It's a grown chin. An adult chin. Those are men, experienced men. And they go out there with a young kid. - That's right, that's right. - You can say that Antonio's talented. They got those four or five guards that are just relentless, but listen, you got veterans on the nicks who are not afraid of the moment. - No. - Shammett coming in this playoffs. Shammett missed, I think, maybe his-- - 11-12 from Cleveland. - Yeah, but he missed like his first few shots, and he just kept shooting. He kept fucking shooting. - You're both new. - Start to splash, lock down on D, and then the other thing is Shamp Pagny. I think his name is-- - Shamp Pagny. - But Shamp Pagny, I think is how the channel's-- - Not Shamp Pagny? - It should be, but I think they pronounce it, Shamp Pagny. Anyway, New Yorkers, so there's a little part of me that has some love for him, but for this series, we can have to separate that. But he was on fire first half, and the nicks made the change. All right, we're not leaving him alone. We're locking that guy down. They locked it down. Like, that third quarter comeback was unbelievable. And then keep in mind, in the fourth, San Antonio went up one. - Yeah. - Nicks were up 10, I think. And then San Antonio came back, went up one, they made their run. Nicks, grit, toughness, thugged it out, and then they end up winning by 10. - I think if you watched the game, it looked like it was about to be a blowout early on. - With the nicks and the third quarter, yeah, yeah. - But then the nicks just got a little bit cold, and then they had to make some adjustments, but I think they win game two as well. - Yeah. - I think they win game two. I think the sweep is very possible, guys. - It's definitely possible, but I think Spurs won three and five. I think the Spurs in town said enough to win three and five. But if it's a sweep even better, I think this one I really want now. - You know why it's better? - Why? - Because that game four. - But that's what I wanted, Madison. - But it's always game six. - Yeah, but I wanted it four. - Even, listen, I didn't want it, it's a garden. - Yeah. - Here's the thing, man. - I'm talking to you. - Here's the talk to me. - Talk to me. - When you show me the chaos. - Oh, it's great. - When you show me what it could be. - Okay. - There's a part of me that's just like, I want to see. - All I'm saying is, it's going to be all right. - It's not in a bad way though. - No, it's in a good way. - It's going to be bad. - It's going to be joy. - No, it's not. - But insurance will cover it. - Can we tell the truth though? - Yeah. - And this is me hating as a Sixers fan. The next fans, they're doing too much. - You want the fuck up? - Yo, yo. - Formative. It's become performance. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - You think so? - Let me tell you something. - Yeah. - First of all, we're all out of it. - Okay. - We have a third this shit for decades. - We haven't even been to the finals in 299. - I'm familiar with that pain. I'm a Sixers fan. - Okay. But we're not talking about you. - Right. - We're talking about us. - Oh, no. - And what I'm telling you is when you're in this position as a Sixers fan, you're going to be the same way. This is years of pent up frustration. And keep in mind, we sell out the garden every single night. Every single night we're showing up, despite not winning for five decades. We're allowed to celebrate, man. - I think we're allowed to wear it with our chests. It's not like we're fair-weather fans. - I think there's only two cities in America, maybe even really one now, and I'm really thinking about it. There's only one city in America that is an actual character. And that's New York. New York is a character. - You're crazy too. - Philly is not a character. - Philly is a city. - Philly is a city. - This city is an actual character. No, it doesn't. - Boston, I don't like it. - No, Boston has a city. - You got a character. - No, they, who's, what's their character? - If it's the white guy, then, no, no, no, no. You can imagine, when I say New York, a picture comes in your mind. - Exactly. - If somebody was in Timzon, that's number one. - Right. - And you just know New York and your mind, even in movies and TV shows, New York, the city is a character. - Yes, okay. - I can't think of any other cities that have that, that are actual characters. - I mean, how they did this. - Yes, okay. - Boston? Get the fuck out of here. - Some white guy who's into Red Sox is Celtic. - Yes, there is a, there is a, the Boston sports fan is a thing. - There's a version of it, but I don't think it's internationally known. - I think there's a culture. I think Boston has a culture. - No, no. - And New York has a culture, but New York also is a character. - It is 100%. - And it's internationally known and a crazy thing if you want to talk about performative And this is some shit. The first like 11 rows at the Spurs Arena were all Nick's fans. That's great. That were forced to change their clothing. So basically they did all these like restrictive measures to make sure that there weren't Nick's fans in the arenas because Nick's fans have been mobbing everywhere. So what they said is that if you're selling your tickets and you're a sandwich to sell your Spurs ticket on it, you can only sell it in 150 mile radius. So my friends that went got people from Austin to buy the tickets for them because Austin's like I don't know 100 miles from San Antonio. So they all get people that are either local or from other areas that are close to quote unquote buy the tickets for them and they get them from that and then they mob and then San Antonio would make them change their clothing because they're fair. Can you do that? They did that bullshit with the Sixers man. They ran out of our own. They don't do it. Why don't take it? Why don't you should have been able to get to the fire department. Give us a ticket. I agree. I agree. Give us a ticket to the TSA. Nick's disgusting. It's disgusting. It's discussing y'all support your own team. I agree. Can we talk about how Victor Wimbianna might have been crowned to early? And we might be having this conversation to early. You might come out in average 40 next three or four games. I don't think we need to talk about it. I said it last week and everybody act like I was crazy. I think he's been crowned a little bit to early. I keep going back to the fact that I don't think of facing the lead. Can be a foreigner, but if there's anybody who could probably do it, it's Victor Wimbianna. And to me, what makes a person a face of the lead is not only what they do on the court, but they transcend basketball. Like your mom knows who they are. Your mom knows who they are. If you said to your mom right now, who's Victor Wimbianna? I don't like how many times you said your mom. By the third kid mom, I was like, "Hey, man, shut the fuck up." When I'm just saying, "Hey." You see this, but that's what the Nick's winning does to New York. Okay, you see how New York this guy's telling me if I'm human, my mom's gonna visit by extra threats. You see how my mom's name is. You asked your mom who Victor Wimbianna was. She was like, "Yeah, he used to come to our dance school." She was like, "No, mom, he played basketball." From my point of view, you need somebody that's dominated on the court and transcend basketball. I have yet to see Victor Wimbianna dominate any of these series. He's a good player. You feel it defensively. Okay, so defensively he clearly. He had a great game. No, no, no. Like I saw the nicks with the yips in the first quarter anytime they got in the paint. Shots that Brunson puts up every single time. They would get in the paint and they would dish out. And what was happening is in the first quarter, the nicks weren't hitting the threes at all. So if you get in the paint and you dish out and you're not hitting those corner threes, again, Victor, you're fucked. And then what fucking Jalen did, I think it was in the second quarter. He said, "I'm shooting. I don't give a fuck." And he was getting to the cup. He was getting buckets. Especially when Victor was on the bench. He liked fucking. But he does transform the game defensively. But my issue with Victor is like, if he's not going to hit that deep three with regularity. Take your ass down in the paint. Well, he can't. Get your akima lies going on. He don't have the akima moves. And he doesn't have the body weight to push a cat off. That's true, mom. That was chestening them up and he couldn't go nowhere. So watch Ray, watch Ray with akima also. I'm like, what did you like? If he was not there getting his akima, he's averaging 40 in this series. In any series, a lot of people trained with akima, but not everybody's the dream body, the dream we sleep on the fucking dream. We really do. Go back and watch. Nicks fans don't talk about finals. No, no, yeah. With Shaq's first finals, akima's second, when they went, I think they went back to back when Jordan retired. Yep. Yo, akima average like 34 in 13 or something crazy was just phenomenal. But that's what I imagine Victor wouldn't be honored to be. You know how many points he had last night? 20, 26 and 12. But I'm like, you didn't see it in the game. You got a lot of that at the free throw line. They hit like six field goals. But it's like, why if you're 76 with that skill set, do you not dominate? I think what it was is when the game got tight in the fourth quarter coming down the stretch. And, you know, I'm talking about one game. It could change over the series. He wasn't a person. You could just throw the ball to say get a bucket. Why not? But they did have somebody to do that. Harper could do that. And I think they made a mistake. This Harper kid is nice. They should have played through that. You know, that's Ron's kid. Yeah. Yeah. He knows the money out of that. I did a, I had daddy daughter field day this week with my four year old. And so, you know, we out there as the father is doing stuff with the daughters. And a couple of dudes had on nicks and six baby just before game one nicks and six. So we get to talk about the game and the guy goes, I don't like Ron Harper. We started talking about the players in LA and we talked about Dylan Harper. I don't like Ron Harper. I'm like, why you don't like Ron Harper? Because of the bulls? No, no, no. I don't got nothing to do with the bulls. Well, actually, I got six reasons, but what I missed the bulls, but this ain't about the bulls. I said, what is it? He said, we played golf together sometime. And he parks in the handicap spot. But then he'll go out there and walk 18 holes. So you can't walk 20 feet, but you, but you can walk 18 fucking holes. Stop fucking in the fucking handicap. Why does a golf course have a handicap? You don't need, you know, that's ridiculous to yourself, right? It's like, what the fuck are we doing? A handicap spot and a athletic event. You should pull up in your golf car. That's it. You know, what are we talking about here? I don't know, man. But all I know is nicks and fucking six. Now, next sweeping. If they sweep it, that's even better. I just need to be in the garden. New York deserves that. New York deserves the home win in the garden. You know, I mean, we need to see that panda moan. And we need to see that helicopters. I mean, doing that already, doesn't matter. Exactly. But it's better when it went at home. We need somebody dressed up as Batman standing over something just because that's a, that's what you do when you create an easy-ass nicks face. Dressed up as Batman standing over a massive swing. Like go crazy, man. Y'all deserve it. Don't take it. And I go to the city of is joy. Yeah, I don't think I'm not gonna tear it out. They're not gonna tear the city up. I go to the city of okay. They not. No, we're not. It's joy. They haven't tore it up yet. Yeah, let me that's Philly. Philly be tearing it up. New York needs this man. How do I just be on top of the thing? So New York needs this world. What else we got to tell again? We only got a hot hour today, guys. People got something to do. Yeah, I want to talk about. Shout out to all the four-year-olds out there. Four-year-olds are so funny, bro. Four-year-olds. Yes. Why? Because I was, I told y'all that my daddy, daughter, field day, man. And kids are so hilarious. Like, this is one little kid was sitting by me. He's, he's a white girl, blonde, he has blue eyes. He's just staring. And she goes, "Are you blank, blanks, dad?" I go, "Yeah." And she's just looking at me and she goes, "I have a grandmother." What? What did I do? What did I do? What did I do? That was what you said. I just didn't stare. I have a grandmother. I'm like, "Hi." I was like, "Oh, my kids, are you only cream only?" No one, you mean? Just no Charlemagne. And knowing that his daughter is, or his daughter, there's a part of me just thinking his daughter was looking at that girl some other day this week. And you're like, "I bet you don't even have a grandma." I had to think about it. And I started to get dark. No, grandma, you don't have a grandma. But see, I started to get dark and tell her the truth. And be like, "I used to have one but they're dead." Oh my gosh. I was this close. When I say I was this close, and God was like, "I know you got the fuck up." Yeah. Okay, she's four years old, all right? And I was like, "Yeah, yeah, grandmother." I'm serious. Well, boy, I wish that adults would grow up and still be four. Yeah, wouldn't it be great? There's no filter. There's no filter. Just pure joy. Just think of the joy. This young girl is at school, daddy, daughter, day, but she's thinking about her sweet old grandmother. And her grandmother was just on her mind as she wanted to tell some stranger, "I have a grandmother." That's how much impact that grandmother is having on her life. That little bit of appreciation, because I've gotten to the point in my life right now where I really, really despise people who don't appreciate nothing. Like shut the fuck up and stop being so disgruntled about life. Stop complaining about everything. Be grateful. Get to do these things. Not you have to. Not somebody's making you get to do these things, especially in the workplace. Yeah. When you look around and you see how many people don't have employment, and you look at many, you know, I know money even in these corporations isn't what everybody got, but at least you're making something. There is somebody out there right now that will die for your child. To be in the position that you're in right now. So just learn to appreciate the little small things in life. Man, this girl appreciated her grandmother four years old, hot as hell, and New Jersey. She was getting bullied by Charlotte Van Offspray, and she needs you to know. No, she knew that your daughter came to school and said, "Yo, my dad said you have no grandma." That's not true. My dad said, "You're granny's dad." That's what my dad said. That's what my dad said. That's not true, man. My grandma's not that. My dad told me he's dead. I'm not true. You see the internet trying to make a make a war between me and academics. Did you see that? I didn't know it was a war between you guys. I thought it was like, you guys were like saying, "Hey, be careful." careful look out. I thought you were looking out for him. Well, yes, I gave him. Is that not what he said? Yeah, I can play it. Well, yeah, play what I could do next day. Shout my man. Show me. He gave me a call. He said, Ag, this was going around. I seen it. What? Where'd it come from? I don't know. Oh, okay. Charlottes, if I wasn't supposed to air you out on that, it's okay. But listen, I got to get to the bottom of this. I hear Lauren LaRosa got in the background. What Lauren LaRosa got? What? Then I hear, oh, you got like, no, one of the stews I was on this show and then this other guy didn't like you and I'm like, what is going on here? Now, like for anything I like to adjust things head on. But with that, you know, I don't like doing proxy wars. I like to just kick it off. I tell all y'all eat a dick straight up. All y'all eat a dick. I ain't stopping nothing. When when there is entities that's plotting against me, don't be the messenger. You either with me against me. No DJ callus in around my book. No DJ callus around my book. Get the fuck away. I think I stopped here. Oh, so he said, now he's saying you need to pick a side. Is that? I don't know. But the hidden thing, I gave academics my head's up because academics has done that for me before. You know what I'm saying? Academics has reached out to me before. They say, hey, I don't know if you see what's happening over here, but such is such is doing this. Such is such is doing that. Oh, you know, good looking. So I was returning the favor. And usually messed up comes across the desk all the time. We do media. So in media, you get tips, anonymous tips. I got so many files on so many different people. I don't know if things are true. I'm just saying that these things come across the desk. Usually it's a lot of stuff that I ignore. This is when I was like, you know what? I'm going to reach out and I don't know if I reached out to text before Jeremy Hex said what he said are after. Jeremy Hex? Yeah, let's play with Jeremy Hex. Because Jeremy Hex accused academics of taking money from who's Jeremy Hex. Politician Jeremy. He used to be on this hip hop DX show with DJ head and Ellie and Wilson called the bigger picture. I think he still works with hip hop DX. Now listen, listen to what Jeremy had. Academic says that he has a hundred thousand dollars for me. If I could prove that he was being paid by the head of true social. Jeremy, I got a hundred thousand. I'll see if you provide that. Let me read some receipts. November 14th, 2025. Chris Pavlovsky sent a payment to Livingston, Alan for $8,800 and $4. And another one on December 23rd, 2025 for $1,234. That's almost 10K. Technically that's only a tenth of what you would owe me. I won't put it on screen, but you can go double check the Paypal Act. Now I know you want to act all confused and Google it. Now I don't know if I text him before this or after, but I do remember when I saw this, I said, oh shoot, let me hear that. Because what came across our desk was the same information but not that. It just was like this spreadsheet that was like, yo, DJ academics takes money from music people, and media people, and political people. And also, they take money to spread false narratives about folks like, you know, do these smear campaigns and things of that nature. And that wasn't even what I was really calling them to get a heads up on because I could tell you myself, actually, yeah, I take money from music people. That's not a secret. The political stuff he said he didn't know anything about. Whatever. The reason I call that. And Ax said, I think that he asked me who was behind it and I said, I couldn't tell him. That's not true. I said, I don't know, but I would find out. But what I did tell him was that these three individuals, Carson McCoy, another guy named Alex Ocha, and George Noon. How you pronounced it, Chris? No, he's his name. N-G-N-G-U-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-N is the closest, yeah. George Noon. He's the, he's, that's grand with a chat nigga. And he is from Australia. What we were told was the Carson Kid in George, we're getting investigated, got press by investigators and cooperated. No, not Randy. And, and, and told, and said, and said that they get their marching orders from academics in Drake. I don't know if this is true. I don't know if it's not true. I'm just grandad. I'm in the means. What is he? He lives in Australia. Yo, I sent, I sent, act, the pictures. They sent us of him and act goes, who is this? And I go, they say, this is the George grand was a chat nigga dude. And then he was like, what? I thought he was skinny. And so I guess when he sent, grandad pictures, you know, grand confirmed, like, yeah, man, I got these pictures sent to me, you know, a few months ago. So I was just calling to give him a heads up and I said, yo, you might need to watch the people around you because sometimes man, no, grandad, sometimes you, he's hilarious though. I don't, I don't know. But sometimes you being business with people and aren't fully aware of all the things that they may be doing. So, is that, so there's a legal activity because they're being paid to do things? What's illegal about that? I, I really, I'm to be honest with you. I really don't know. I mean, I really don't know. When I say, I don't know. I really don't know. I saw this guy. There's this guy in Australia. He wrote a article called, what was his name? His name is Kishore. And what's his name? Because you know his name? He wrote this article. Is this alleged by the way? Like a week? Well, this is an article from Australia. It says the rapper, the crypto billionaire and the Instagram mystery man. The Instagram mystery man is, ran with a chat in the A.K.A. George, no one, whoever it is. Now, uh, Act told me that to do cars, hilarious. Act told me that to do cars and use the work for one. Even more hilarious now that I know these feelings. Yes, oh, we should put a picture. But Act told me that, what's his name? You, what's the, what's his name? Kishore, Napier, Rahman. Kishore and Napier, Rahman apparently have been doing this story. Like, he writes for like a newspaper out there in Australia. So apparently this was a big deal. Like they came to, ran with his house, A.K.A. George, no one and was talking to his parents and was talking to him. And this is all allegedly him and the dude, Carson, were cooperating and just told them, hey, we do these things because of these two individuals, you know, academics and Drake. Once again, I don't know if this is true or not. I just decided to tell Act with the hell was going on, right? So also, Act told me that, Carson, so they're rolling on it. According to this, they're rolling on Act. Who's rolling on that? The grandi and then the other. They just said that they're cooperating and they said that the two people they get, they march in order to wrong with academic interest. But are they co, so they're cooperating against? That's what it sounded like to me. And we know this is true or this is all legit right now. I'm just showing you what they said. They said it's been an investigation. Now. You just don't want to throw things on people that I find hilarious. If you're not funny, you're guilty. But once you're funny, I'm like, God, man. But Act told me that Carson used to work for him because it don't work for him. And we were told that Carson used to run academics TV. But now, allegedly, George and Drake run academics TV. Now, I told you to track all of this. Academics TV is a, it's like a Twitter page that is crazy. They just, they go crazy on people. They, I mean, they just say to wild just shit, like they just say to wild just shit about people. So this is, this is apparently, this is allegedly George right now. That's a grand right there. The goat. The goat. So nah. That's apparently him. But by the way, it gets, it gets, it gets, it gets crazier, right? So, George, stay true, George. Don't roll, George. He might have already did. But anyway, I told, I can't not follow. Listen, I told, I told, I told this information, right? I don't know what act went back and told the team. But then it's funny. If I go to you and I say, yo, just do, George, grand with a chat nigga, you know, runs academics TV allegedly. And I'm telling you that this dude and this guy Carson might be cooperating and telling things about y'all that may or may not be true. But then you spend the whole week slandering me. Oh, act with slander. No, no, academics TV. Who's ran by George, aka grand with a chat nigga. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So you spend the whole week slandering me because of what I told at academic. It's like you're kind of, but you're kind of proven, you're kind of proven these people right? But if somebody comes to me and says, hey, this guy right here, you know, works for these two individuals, get paid. and just spread these narratives. And then when I go to your man and tell your man something about you, you spend the whole (laughs) landerin' me. - But why would they slander you? Isn't that so obvious? - Oh, whoa, that's a good point. That's a great question. When I saw one of the posts, I sent it to Ag. And I'll tell you what I said. I sent it to Ag. I said, "Yo, Amy and me won't do nothing for him. I just put you on what came across our desk 'cause you always do it for me." And then he said, "Yeah, I think he thinks you and rock nation are exposing him, LOL." He said, "He got those picks three months ago, LOL. This is next level LOL dude is in another country." - The fuck I got to do with this. - You know what I'm saying? - What's the fuck, rock nation got to do it? - They think you're tied to this ex Jose on. - How, when I called your man-- - To notify him. - To tell him what the fuck was going on. Ag didn't have to say nothing to nobody. Ag could have took that information. - This is fascinating. - Ag could have took that information and did whatever with it. He could have just went and notified his team. I don't know. So if Ag notified his team, and his team reaction is, "All right, well let's go slander to him for a week." - You're kind of proving the point. - You're proving the point and making me look like, "Oh, so maybe it is something to what the fuck may be going on." But I don't know, I don't think academics have anything to do with it. I really don't. - That's why. - I think he's affiliated with some people that he may not know everything that-- - They're up to it. - Because there's lawsuits like that. There's lawsuits that Ag just got added to, right? Like involving Drake and Stake and all types of other shit and you know, to do judges also in those lawsuits as well. - Okay. - And I just think that that guy might be involved in some things that Ag may not know about it. Ag put me onto the whole clip of game. Even though I knew what the clip was worth, but they really roll like a mob in a mafia. - And that's another thing I was telling Ag. I was like, "Yo, there's people in these discords that they're in, thinning out what y'all are supposed to do." - It's so, so they hit, so it's like, "Okay, Jay-Z performed on stage this Friday on Saturday." He said, "X, Y and Z about Drake." Here's the clips we're gonna run with these narratives. - You don't even need bots when you got real people in real pages doing it. - And all you gotta do is go look at academic TV and you can see this slander is a pattern to this slander. - Oh, so you're putting the sources in which it comes from? - Oh, it's all that academic TV page, which is apparently ran by a grand with it, Jay-Z. - But this is the thing that I think George, I like the way he ran by. - This is the thing a lot of people, I think maybe don't understand about narratives on the internet, is it like these discords are incredibly powerful? 'Cause think about it. - You only need like, 30 people. - Woo. - To make a comment section look a certain way. - Woo, and you can take whatever clip you want, manipulate it, you know, cut it up. But this is the thing that they do that's actually kind of brilliant. They'll post the clip and put the caption. So the narrative will be what they want out in the caption. You might even listen to it and be like, "Ah, that's not exactly how that went." - It doesn't matter. - It don't matter. - But also if you think about like in the comments, if you see 10, 15, 20 comments, your brain is almost conditioned big, well, this is how everyone feels about the thing. But if you have these massive discord groups that are being coordinated and narratives that are being coordinated at the, basically the tip of the spear of those discord groups, and then those people go out and then push those narratives not only through clipping and through posting to big accounts, but also reinforcing those narratives within the comments section. It's very similar to like back in the day like when someone talked about Beyonce and then like the bees would enter your chat. And like that we felt like was really authentic. It was like, "Don't mess with the bee hive." - I think it was. - Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying it wasn't, but now they've found a way where like, you actually don't need 40 million followers on Instagram to create that. You need 50 people. 50 coordinated people that are all willing to say the same thing and each of them has one account, but what if they have five account? 50 people becomes of what is that to order? - Oh, they're making a kill. - Through to 50 people. - Oh, and these clips was making a kill. - Oh, and apparently they really are a clan and they have a grand wizard. And his name is George and the wind. What's his name for now is that? - Let's say wind. - Wind. Okay, the Vietnamese came from Australia. And he is really, really, really, really in control of these individuals. So, he's an act knows what's going on and he's playing me and I'm naive or he has no idea. But I also think you know these guys can be scary, right? Because like, you know, what if. - Do you think it's that coordinated though? - No, I know it is. - Like, you know what I have to say? - Listen, here's the thing. And I wish Alex was here because unbeknownst to me. - Yeah. - This came from act. Alex Media had whatever dossier about George like three months ago in Sanctiton. - I don't know what the fuck is going on. And I go, "Oh, wow." What the fuck? I don't know how to say, "I go home." - It's in high. - How are you saying that? - So, what the fuck? I'm like, "So, what the fuck is going on?" - I left the country like Cas. (laughing) - And that's the other thing I told Alex. I said, "Listen, I don't know what the fuck is going on. "I'm just telling you what we got sent." Told him that and I said, "And old, the crypto accounts are flag too." - The crypto accounts. What is that man? - I don't fucking know. I'm just telling you what was sent to us. So, I'm relaying this messaging, but then I see the lawsuits about, you know, the crypto shit would stake and all of that and everything. And I'm like, all right, they got some other shit going on over there. So, I'm just, I let, Act know about what the fuck was going on. So, there's no issue between me and academics. Or maybe I'm just being naive. - I think grandad. - But grand, he's an academic TV? - He's innocent. - No, you're innocent. - No, I don't think he's a victim. - He's a victim in all. - I don't know if he's innocent of these allegations that he's being accused of. But he'd be wilding on academics TV. And that's the thing I told academics to. Academics was like, yo, you know, these guys, man, I don't know academics TV on Twitter. - I follow, I follow, I am academics. I follow academics on. - Yeah. - Act was like, yeah, you know, these guys, you know, my guys are being exposed. And, you know, people are doxxing my guys and they're coming after him. No, act, these motherfuckers be on social media, talking crazy about people. - Oh, and. (laughing) - The chickens are coming over. - The chickens are coming over the fucking rules. You can't do that. You can't throw rocks and hide your hand. But I guess you can if you hide behind Abys. Abys. Abys. What's the shit called? - Avatar. - Avatar's of academics, right? And so your name with Graham was in Chattanooga, but not that your name is actually out there. George Gwyn, or whatever it is. And people are actually coming to your house, talking to you and your parents. People in Australia are writing articles about what's going on. Think you might want to relax. Think you might want to take a step back and be like, yo, this is getting a bit too much. 'Cause at the worst, at the worst, yeah. I see, I can see like heavy lawsuits, you know what I mean, that cost you a lot of money. And I don't know what the ramifications are with political things. I do know that when you post political stuff on social media and you're endorsing people, you have to tell people that you have paid for it. - If it's close, pay man. - Every single time. - Not, you can't just make a broad statement like, yo, I got paid by repulsed. You know, every single time you do a post. - That's it. - That's political that you got paid for. You have to disobey. - That's probably a good rule. Because then you know that at least the audience gets the decipher whether it's authentic to who you are, what you believe, or these are somebody else's ideas and they're using it. - Is that not something to tell somebody? If somebody has given you a heads up before a boss and bullshit. Is that not a reason to pick up the phone and give somebody a heads up? - Well, I think what you did was quite benevolent. I don't see why. But it doesn't seem clear that he's upset at you as he is. - No, but it's his academic team being- - But you're saying that. - What's the connection between academics and academics TV? - That's a guy. - What does he own academics TV? - He must. - Who? - Academics. - Oh, I don't know. They say George is definitely part of it behind academic TV. I told you that. - Who told you that? - Dude Carson, the dude Carson told allegedly, told investigators, when he cooperated allegedly, that he used to write academic TV, but he gave it to George and Drake. - And Drake, so now we believe that Drake- - I don't know. I don't say that. - I'm not three albums. - I'm not saying I'm believing in you. - And tweeting. - I'm just saying what's happening. - He's a busy guy, that's guy. - Yeah. - All I'm simply saying is they do come to the defense a lot. - Oh, of course. - A lot. - That's where the bread is buttered. - A lot. - And after Jay-Z dropped his freestyle to the Saturday, he got off me for a second and they just went great. Jay-Z, you know? - Well, we gotta talk about that freestyle. - But we will. And I just think I'll put a button on it by saying, I think that maybe. - He's liking someone is not a crime. Like you love Patrick, you think he's an amazing artist. Nobody would ever assume you're getting paid to defend country. - But I just think it's two things, right? And, you know, when you have those clippers on your side, that's a great team to have on your side. - They run the internet. - The clippers? - Run the fucking. - But they're also a horrible person and not being on your side. - Oh, of course. - So if you're somebody, 'cause I was wondering, I'm like, "Damn, I told you this information. Why didn't you tell your audience that? Why didn't you tell your audience, what I told you about George and Carson?" - Oh. - And why haven't academic TV aimed Jeremy, maybe I missed it. - Jeremy is. - Jeremy, hey. Like, after we. After what Jeremy accused y'all instead of going out Jeremy but I don't even have that information Jeremy got. - I don't have that. - I don't know. I don't have that. The stuff I got is music stuff and you know a couple of like political campings. - I wouldn't even have that information. - I don't know but that's my point. My point is I ain't see y'all pointing the finger at him or going at him so why would you go into person that gave you you know guy a heads up but I think. - What is your point? - What do you think? What is your reason? - I don't know if I should have information with that. - Why would he share it if he's actually skeptical of them? Why would he share that information with that? - Because you should let people know that you aren't to what they got going on so maybe they stop. Which is why I'm doing this right now. But it's this interest right? Because once again like I said they're good to have on your side and they're good to not have on your side. Because what if they wake up one morning and stop fucking with that? - What if at wake up one morning is all of a sudden this DJ academics was accused of drugging and raping a girl in 2020? Like you know what I'm saying? - And then they're amplifying that. - That's my point. Like the tables can turn. - So you think it's like private security. It's like yeah they secure you until someone else pays you. - You see what I'm saying, you see. But oh and I'm glad you said that. 'Cause I told that that I said act the way you do anything is the way you do everything. People that can get paid to do certain things. - We'll be loyal to the highest bit. - They're the highest fucking bit. And if you think otherwise, you're bugging. Not just act, but anybody out there the way a person does anything is how they do everything. - Remember the early days of the internet with podcasts when like nobody knew that there was money surrounding us? And it was so, it is interesting like not to make this like a money thing, but like money corrupts everything. Like we make too much money in sports. People start really cheating. But there's no money in sports. It's just people playing it for the love of the game. You start to make $100, millions of dollars. People are taking steroids. They take appetizers to and everything they possibly get and get a competitive advantage. They send a Michael Jordan fucking, you know, Poison Pizza during the playoff. - So what I'm saying? - This shit is filthy. And I thought about this 'cause I was even sort of, you sort of shit with Travis Scott. Like Travis Scott got accused. 'Cause he was using that same PR firm. And that went after Rebel Wilson and all of them. - Oh, that story was fucking crazy. And that got swept under the rug too quick. - But that's my point. - And you literally have these people. - Say the story, just so. - Hold on, let me pull the headline up. - Basically, there was like a PR firm that, I think. - It's the same PR firm that the Hollywood report already did the expose they are. - It was basically gonna put out a hit piece against was it a producer? - It was, I'll tell you right now, it was Rebel Wilson. - The latest story that came out was Travis Scott's camp worked with alleged smear conspirators. - The name of the PR firm is the, oh, the name of the PR firm. - The name of the PR firm. I can't fucking find the name of it. - But is, is that crazy? How buried the story is that you can't even just immediately Google it? - I mean, it comes out, no, you can't immediately Google it. Is this the matter of finding it? But essentially, it was a-- - And either the same people who allegedly attacked antagonists of actress, director of Rebel Wilson. So, documents show the rapids, entrepreneurs, manager are coordinated with these entertainment industry operatives, this PR firm against an adversary by seeking out potentially discrediting information to post on a ghost platform. So, listen man, none of these campaigns you see against people are organic. - Well, that's it. - They're all coordinated. And they're all because, like, you saw what they did to Jay-Z after Jay-Z's freestyle. Well, I wanna get into Jay thing one second, but like, real quick about this. Do you know how we have like a healthy skepticism of the news, for example? If we see Fox News, we know that it's gonna be favorable to conservatives, we see CNN, we know it's gonna be favorable to liberals, and we like, look at the news through this lens, right? We go, they have a specific take on the world, and they're gonna defend this position. We're all aware of that. - Yep, yep. - And then the internet comes out, and we assume that there's some like authenticity in the internet. But why would, once the internet becomes a tool of power, why wouldn't the same people in charge not use it to their advantage in the exact same way? And you could argue almost more effectively. So of course, of course I could see the internet being used as a way to push narratives and a way to like slam certain people and ignore certain stories and kill a story with another story. So I think there should be a skepticism. The second you see, like, every page, hating on somebody, you see these massive campaigns. The assumption, I don't think for the average person, but the assumption for us, definitely in the business, who have like dealt with it, is like, oh, this is 100% coordinated. - Absolutely, 'cause we know in the name of the PR firm is the agency group. - Interesting. - And that's the agency group. So it's the same ones that they said, Rebel Wilson, Rebel Wilson's PR team also connected to Justin Baldonia, allegedly plot heavy smear campaign for actress and leaked audio. So my point is there's people that do-- - It's a dirty game. - It's a dirty, fucking game. It's a dirty game. I tell you, get with a big mouth motherfucker who don't give a shit like me. - Amen. - So, you know, whatever y'all was ramping up, ramping up some more, God damn it. Okay, I ran with the Chadnick and George and Nguyen, and, you know, whoever else, I'm just telling y'all, that's what y'all need to be paying attention. - George, George, say it ain't so George. - Listen, you want me to say the names again? Let me say the names again, so y'all-- - George, say it ain't the name again. - George, Carson McCoy, Alex Olcha, and George Wynn. - I think George might be innocent though. I think I would just say that. - I don't know, academics, get your people. - You'd be-- - I would just say that. - Just off of-- - Get your hilariousness. I'm not familiar with the other guys. - Hey, get your people. - Act, okay? - Yeah. - Now, Jay-Z's freestyle, what'd you think? - Hmm, let's pay this bill for us. - Yeah, let's pay this bill. - Pay this bill. (upbeat music) - George, announcements have the car walker. - Yes, sir. We'll be in Virginia Beach this weekend, man. Thank you guys so much for selling out all the shows. And then I just added some shows out west. I'm gonna be out there doing a cool movie this summer, man. I'm really excited about that. So I'll be out there. I'm gonna be doing some shows at the ice house in Pasadena. I'm gonna do it with the 19th and the 20th. And I'll also be at the Ontario Improv, the 26th and 27th. And then I'll be at the Brea Improv, July 17th and July 18th. And then I'll be in Halifax, Nova Scotia, August 8th. So grab those while they're available. - You wanna be a main character on that? - Say again? - God damn, Taylor. - I don't mean to say like that. - Damn. - No, I'm like, what the fuck is that, Taylor? - I did not mean to say it like that. - Why is that so biological reason? - That's a crazy man. - Andrew, I'm saying like-- - Violinist. - No, Taylor, I don't have any aspirations at all. - God, man. - Why can't it just be congratulations on getting another movie show? - You know what I mean? - Don't you wanna be a main character? No, I'm just fucking, no regrets. Don't you wanna be a main character? - And if you just go out and just don't try to be a main character. And if you just show up and be like, show me what it's important roles are. You know what I mean? What the fuck was that to answer your question? - That's a nice question. - I would rather be part of the coolest projects. - No, but I'm just saying like, would you, and you should get into voice acting, too. But you, would you want to-- - Yes, he wants to, it will be-- - What's your question? - I guarantee you the movie that he stars and will be something that is probably self-funded. - We got some things in the work. - I'm saying like, I'm so inspired by Kerry Barker and obsession, I'm inspired by-- - For the other kids, backroom, backroom. - Backroom. - To do the backroom. See, it's a backroom budget was 10 million. Slute the A24 for even having the vision and wanting to take a chance on a 20 year old YouTuber, given the opportunity to direct the video. I mean, direct the movie. I don't know that young man's name. Kane Parsons, Slute the Kane Parsons, April. I'm going to see backroom this weekend. That shit did like 110, like 100 plus million in six days. That's a YouTuber sitting on YouTube doing flash shit. Kerry Barker, same thing. Budget of $750,000 to $1,000,000. - You know what it did obsession? And that shit has made 80 plus million dollars. - Was it scary movie? - It actually wasn't. It's like a psychological thrill. It wasn't really scary. - But like, this is a testament to, I think Hollywood's starting to figure things out, which is like, if you just take someone who's popping on social media and then you put them in a movie that's got nothing to do with them or their creation, their fan base won't necessarily come watch it. But if you take a creator and then you let them create something that's in their vision, their fan base that loves that creator and the things they create, will absolutely go support another word of their creations. And I think that's what Hollywood is starting to understand. They're going, oh, we don't put them in our shit. We give them money to make their shit. And they're used to making their shit for almost nothing. So we don't even have to take a big gamble. - That's right. - You're going to see, what's that? And they'll do the marketing to their fan base. So you're going to see a lot more. This is Markiplier's movie that he put out. I think it's called Iron Lung. - Iron Lung. - Iron Lung. - That was really the first one that's going under the rate. - 3.5 million and did like over 50. - Did over 50, okay? So he's the first guy that we saw like this YouTuber that puts their, their movie out. And I think he's self-funded if I'm not mistaken. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, so I'll be probably invested, but even the way you feel a little budget. - Point is, it's like this year alone, you've seen three social creators go make movies that have outpaced or maybe out-profit it, the biggest films that have come out. - Oh yeah! - And by out-profit, I mean, like just 'cause your movie makes $300 million, if it costs you 300 to make the 300, you made zero. - I think boredom is smoking Star Wars the Mandalorian right now. - Oh, like, so listen, through to my guy, Basil, I want it, you know what I mean? Like, you know, I got Southland films, we got some great fucking stories coming. I am so inspired, but I'm also more inspired, not just, not the profit of it all. I'm inspired by these creators who are coming with compelling stories. - Yes, yes. - You're doing good stories. I don't even know who Star is in Obsession. I don't know none of these people, but I know it's a great story, and that girl killed it. And I'm gonna tell you, for everybody who watching Obsession, the girl is not the problem. The girl is not the monster in the movie. I hope you all know that, right? - I hope you haven't seen it. Have you seen it, Miles? - The girl is not the monster. That poor girl, man. And you know what makes them, oh my God, I want to tell you, can I tell you all one scene? - Yep. - There's one scene that if he just simply says, yeah, there's no more, when she's at the car door, and she's like, if you like me, you should tell me now. - Oh. - And he's like, nah, I like you as a friend. And when she walks up, he's like, fuck. And then he makes the wish on the magic. All you had to do was tell you like the, then you get the cheeks without the craziness. - No, you need the crazy. - You made her fucking crazy. - Crazy, she's so much better. - The part of the movie is they got this thing where you can make a wish and he wished that this girl loved him forever, like nobody's ever loved him before. - Okay, so why didn't he say? - And so she just ended up, you know, being a very obsessive woman. - Oh, that's very obsessive. - Yes, yes, but it's his fault. - It's not really consensual. - I thought about that too. Because there's a part, there's parts of the movie where it's themed like she's possessed by somebody else. And I'm like, that shit, I'm like, wait a minute now. So when she comes to, when the exorcism is awful, you see what I was saying? - Uh-oh. - So now we got a whole other movie. - Uh-oh. (laughing) - Okay. - That shit is wild. Jay-Z freestyle, what'd you think? - Patty's turn at a honey. She would have transitioned from playing my name. I want to hunt them. Everyone in a plainly silly cage that won 800 ambulance chaser with a wish one came. But now I'm on one as a joke. Public enemy number one, I've been praying. The rocks are not crumbling. The number cons has magically run out of pranks. Your son on the federal judge, I'm mumbling something about having too much of this drink. You know how dumb that is? Another one, I don't want this. Wonder how I get the blade. Mixed teeth is tumbling out there mouth and somehow. I'm the one who done it. This is where I'm supposed to begin. (audience cheering) You had a cash crown and dung it. When you come to this, I'm the one who's struck the pain. That hill you could die, you're on. It's way too much flat that comes from those pains. I'm killing them softly. What's up, they still don't need to be explained. You want them all way, it's the upper. I'm still on your suckers, I'm all of you niggas can't. I ain't much for me, it's no how. Here's to the brunches, I remember the hunger paid. The price of the drink's going up. It's going to cost you a fee to even save my name. (audience cheering) You ever heard of a Wonder King? My children and some of them have you niggas no shame. You're trying to get understood. I really get understood. It's an unharmed player. (audience cheering) You have thoughts with your thoughts again. Everybody think they're the ones that say, you're no maniac. Watch how I say the act and my presence make a shite. I need a new therapist. It's shit is not working. I'm truly on the brink. Y'all better not account you. They don't want me to think these thoughts that I think. They're not as niggas, they're still stuttering. (audience laughing) And chatty patty down on his luck again. Quest introduced me to Jack. Well, I don't know why I still fuck with him. (audience cheering) (audience cheering) You wonder why you do the freestyle rehearsal? That lady back on the stuff. She sound like she in love with him. Her cute kitty then, take that kiss. Enough of the, a rabbit can't be my eye. I got nagging with public hands. Those shots came from the very talk of the government. Good luck with them. I'm guvving by God. You're trying to break the government. I pray for 40 days. My neck is fluttering again. Risking fluttering again. My neck worked, went up again. My neck's up baby. The jig is up. I think I'm up 10. Wrong chat chant. You gotta look up again. Niggas looked up the hole. I never looked up to them. (audience cheering) The practice got you publishing games. They go talk tough to them. Thought you had success to me. Niggas is focused in perpetuities, how your touch expanded. I'll make me go fuck, man. (audience cheering) The rules remember, even when the tree is pretend, not too much of my name. Don't forget who I am. Howdy loves her, Shawnee's. S-H-A-W-N. I've gotten a dog when she put the S at the end. You don't know, the show ain't even begin. I say you don't know. The show ain't even begin. (audience cheering) What'd you think of? I was really surprised. At what? He just seemed so above all of this. Never. You don't know Jay Z. No, no, no. I don't know him personally, obviously. No, no, no, I'm just about musical. Sure, sure. I guess what I'm just trying to say is like, you know, Jay is running the fucking Super Bowl halftime show. He's a billionaire, you know, it's like. He's still a rapper. I know, I know, I know. It's tight like fun times. I know, I guess what I'm saying is, seeing him address these things was surprising to me because I thought that he was at a stage where he's no longer interacting. It's almost like when you see Elon Musk like getting into like Twitter beefs, you're like Elon. You're creating like a global satellite system with rockets that land. When I've always been Elon's. When is Elon not done? I know, I'm not saying whether it's right or wrong. I'm just saying what was surprising to me about it. Who told y'all Jay Z was Muslim? Like who told y'all Jay Z got saved? Because he ignored these systems except about Jay Z already. That's been his whole life. You know what it surprised me if Jay Z was sitting in a podcast somewhere doing that shit. Oh Jay Z was sitting in front of our camera addressing all those people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you mean to tell me all of these people can get on these podcasts, get on their YouTube screens, say what they want about him. Rapids can say what they want about him and rhymes. Other rappers like Nikki can get on and saying about shit, like what they want on social media. But he's at a concert. The 30 year anniversary of a reasonable doubt. 25 year anniversary of the blueprint. So he decides to be outside. And he's doing what he always does performing and then stops and does an aqua fella freestyle. Jay does this historically. I can name numerous about the times where he's done exactly that and address whatever he felt like addressing now. This man don't say nothing for years. But all of these other people can say however they want to say things in the way they can say him. He does it through his art and we're upset. Well, who's upset now? Who's upset? I didn't, was anybody upset? It seemed like, it seemed like we gotta say one, it's surprising how one verse can fuck up the game. It seemed like that one verse really got everybody in a tizzy, but I'm like, yo, he hasn't said anything. Can this man reply one time? He could do whatever he wants. He's a free American, like you can say whatever you want. To me, I was just like, I was one just surprised by the level that he's operating at to be going back and forth. So at one point, that's a great comment. This is a great comment. At one point, are you above it all? Are you ever above it all? Maybe not. Maybe not. Sometimes you want to address some shit. Yeah. I just address some shit. Did you blame me? And they might be like, oh, you above that? Why? But did you like? Did you like the freestyle itself? Yes. Very much so, I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it, but it's different from me because I am what you would call a whole vinja. I am a Jay-Z kind of sore, right? And I've been a Jay-Z kind of sore for a long time. It was that I didn't like Jay-Z in the beginning. I was a Wu-Tang, Jay-Roon, and Dan LaJun. You know, mom, that's who I love. So when my guy, Booby came around talking about this Jay-Z guy and this reasonable doubt, and I saw the suits in the cat knocked the hustle, turned that off. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to hear that. That's not a real rap. What a boom! Back to two sticks in the boots and the denim shorts. Yeah. Okay, I want the Timberland with the denim shorts. Yeah, yeah. In the summer time and the two sticks. That's what I was into, right? Yeah. I'm still into it. But I remember, man, driving me and Booby. I think it was coming back from Rural Beach one year, and he was playing. He played it. By this time, I think by this time, Jay-Z had two albums and the screeches watching soundtrack and played a reasonable doubt from start to finish. And I'm like, "Damn, it's nasty." And then he went into screeches watching, just that song. And I'm like, "Yo, I've really been asleep." Yeah. I mean, Jay, motherfucking Jay. See, just by the way, just by the way, I've been like, "98." So Jay came out in '96, I didn't start getting into Jay-Z 'til about nine. - Yeah, right? My first concert I ever went to was the Hard Knock Life Tour, North Charleston, Coliseum. That was the first concert I personally ever went to. J.Z. DMX, "Maffin Man and Red Man." When J.Z. came out on that stage and J.Z. said, "Why are you looking at my row, ice, bending up my sleeve, and the light hit his watch?" And some way that it looked like it was effect, and at some type of effect that lit up the arena, I was like, "Yo, that shit made me wanna be "in his business." So even though Ghost Face is my favorite rapper of all time, J.Z. is right there. It's like my one B favorite rapper of all time. So when I'm listening to this freestyle, I've, it's like watching a movie. It's like watching Marvel. - Interesting. - If you've never seen, - Interesting. - If you've never seen any Marvel movies, don't they might be a little tough for you when you go see it? - Yeah, but if you know all the characters in their storyline-- - You know-- - It's accommodating them. You know what he means when he says this, that. So to me, I'm like, "Yo, that shit was dope." And it was slay, and it was just done at the right time. And I think that that is what people don't understand in this reactionary society that we live in. We want people to react in real time, in real time. No, these people don't have no control over me. I'll react when I want to react when it's best for me. - And I'll choose to react if I want to. - Making a bent out of me, 'cause when he, he knows when he says something. - That's gonna be crazy, it's gonna be crazy. - And it was crazy, it was so cool. - It was crazy where I saw everybody reacting. I saw more reactions to it than I saw the actual rap. Which is the kind of like internet economy we exist in. - He's prolific, man. - He's prolific. - Listen, I wouldn't say it's like, that's my favorite J-verse. I'm gonna say that's my favorite J-verse. - It's interesting. I think a lot of J's, newer verses are a lot of my favorite J-verses because of what you say. Because he's an older man now. And we've never seen this in hip-hop. We've never seen somebody be this good for this long, right? So when I think of like what's free verse on Meek Mill? It's never seen in the, yeah. When you hear J's, what's free verse? So when you hear J's, he's, God, his verse. He's given you updates on where he is. And it's like, we haven't heard nothing since 444. - He's, you know? I would just say like this specific one, I was just like, I was like, yeah, it's interesting to see him comment on people that I would think like don't even like reach his radar. It was also very cool in that you go, oh, he's a human being. Like he's still an artist. Like he's still somebody affected by the things that people say. - I think he's a person that is aware of everything but acknowledges nothing until he chooses. - Sure, but like the fact that he's even aware and thinking about it is like a very like a, there's like a humanity in it. You know, like sometimes we think of these big superstars and we're like, ah, they ain't even like us. They're not even worried about what people think. It's like, no, he's probably still in the comments too. - Absolutely, man. So listen, I want my, - But was it your favorite J verse? 'Cause that's something that I wasn't talking about. - No, no, no, no, no. - We just too noticed this. - It's my favorite J verse. - But like, that's the other thing. It's like, I feel like if what I've seen a little bit of discourse online is like, if you didn't say it's the hottest ship, you're like, oh, you hate it. And I'm like, no, this is J's feet. Like if I go over like the breadth of wraps that he's had throughout his career, like this is not gonna be that my favorite one. I just wild to see him address this shit. - I'll tell you this, he knows. And this is why I like the verse. He understands where he's at in 2026. - Tell me. - Because he knows it's not necessarily about the verse. It's about what I'm saying. - Yes. - It's why the conversation is going to come from these verses. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So let me pull them. - Well, do you think this is just a jab? - I don't even think it's a jab. It's just like, yo, y'all been talking about me telling your side of the story. Now let me tell you how I feel. Like let me tell you how I feel. But I-- - What did he have a line of wise men who told me not to argue with fools? - I don't think he's arguing. This is not a back and forth. Arguments are going back and forth with people. This isn't a argument. This is a-- - He's going to respond. - This is a statement. He's already re-- Everybody keeps saying this, drink on respond. Drink, drink, drink this five references to him on ice man. All right, maybe on an absolute fool. Can you-- what was the shot at Drake? - When he talked about a rapper can never be my op. I got a Republican, as him shots came from the top. And he says, you're-- - I'm just kidding. - What did you-- - He said, he said, "I'm crackin' it. I'm crackin' it, stole your publishing. Don't talk tough to me. Prepetuity is the word that's used in your contract. Those are those little bars that will-- - To take that Drake out. - What did you say about the criticism of the Mag Republicans or his ops? But-- - He didn't say that though. - I got Mag Republicans. - I said a rapper could never be my ops. I got Mag Republicans. Those shots came from the top. So basically he said, I got Mag Republicans coming after me. So why would I ever be for the rapper? He didn't say they're my ops. He just said, I got Mag Republicans coming after me. - 'Cause some people are like, like, Mag of freed your C.A.L. - That's what I'm saying, like, people aren't listening to what he said. - But what did you think about that? Like, I didn't know that Trump pardoned the C.A.L. of our nation? But why can't two things be true? - No, they can be true. I'm just like, I was not aware of that. I wasn't aware that she got to get a pardon. - Two things can be true. And, I mean, to me, it's like, well, that clearly shows who-- If you're trying to make the-- If you're trying to say, hey, they're down with Maga, then why would these Maga people be coming at? Why would they-- - Could people be taking shots at them? - Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure there are people are. But, like, clearly, if the interpretation is that Maga's his ops, they clearly aren't so much his ops that they're not, like, liberating the CEO of his company and, like, benefiting his company. - No, but that's-- - I mean, that's a fair criticism. - No, no, no, no, that's not fair. - No, I'm not going to say that not fair criticism, but I think we're looking at it-- We're not looking at it right away. - I think that's why people looked at it as, like, virtue signaling a little bit. They're like, uh, don't wipe night here when you're willing to take things from-- - But two things can be true, right? Because, once again, yes, you got pardoned, right? - First of all, anybody's taking a pardon. - Anybody's taking a pardon? - Anybody willing to give you a pardon, you take. - But my point is, you got pardoned. That doesn't mean that there's still not-- - Marigold Republicans. - Marigold Republicans. - People that are coming at you 100%. Like, at the beginning of what you want don't have nothing to do with it. - And there's more Magropocuses just trump, which is probably what you're trying to say. But I'm saying, I do think it's a fair interpretation to look at it and be like, ah, don't, don't virtually single here because you are willing to take the pardon for your girl, if that's the logic then, uh, academic should be responsible for what Grant with the TV does on academic-- - Come here, Grant, with it does on academic TV. I think a lot of people would, if it's like his channel and things are coming out of his channel, they'd be like, you're ultimately responsible for it. - Okay, okay. - Do you think that'd be a fair criticism or like a fair, a fair-- - Sort of, hold the responsibility. - Sort of, but I guess I'm giving, I'm giving Ag bail. You know what I mean, sort of. - Yeah, because I don't-- - I don't mean in bail because that's some of you've known for years and this is a friend of yours, like-- - I don't think you, I don't know if you would call me, but he did, I did hear him say, I can't hold these guys back anymore. So that's what I guess he was talking about the George Wins and the Academics TV. But he did say, I can't hold these guys back anymore. So if them guys think I'm not-- - Then they're going-- - It don't matter what happened over here, it don't matter what happened over here. I mean, anybody who's just watching and assuming they're gonna see like his name on an account coming at you, like it would probably be fair for somebody to assume that. - That's all I got all week. What's up with you and I get it with him? I'm like, nothing, man, I just was texting, like. - Yeah, yeah. - He just talked on the phone last week for a couple of hours, but-- - Yeah. - So fair assumptions, fair assumptions, man. Here's a thought I had. - I got a wrap up in a minute. - Yep. - Jay-Z is a perfect example of someone who's lost a battle but won the war. - With Noth. - Yes. - But it was a very good fight. - Fair. - Not act like take over wasn't phenomenal. - Takeover was a great song. - I think we've didn't forget. Ethan was now getting up off the mat. - It's so weird. - I think we forget that. - It is interesting because like-- (laughs) - Which is all the credited nods. Think about that. - Absolutely. - Like to get up off the mat and then drop that. - Absolutely. - And so Jay-Z perform takeover live in New York Manhattan Center. - Yeah. - You can't tell me Jay-Z lost anything. - Well, I guess, I think takeover was the better record. - Yeah, I was culturally eating it. - I remember walking out of that area and being like, "Now it's gonna never come back to me." - I can't explain it. - Yeah, I know what you're saying. - Takeover is the better record? - I heard this takeover. - What? - Ethan won. - I can't explain it. I can't explain it, you know. - Ethan became a verb or whatever. Like, you eat the one. - But here's a perfect example. And this is to maybe go to our conversation we had last week that was really spirited. Which is like, it is also possible to lose a battle but then have the more prolific, successful career. I win the war. - Now it's not to say that Nasir Jones is incredibly successful and is all right. It has it continues to make great music. I'm better business decisions you could argue. But Jay has won that war. Is that something that could transpire between Drake and Kendrick in your opinion? - I don't know. I don't know if Jay won the war. Between Nas and Jay? - No. I think that Nas won that fight and then they agreed to a ceasefire. I don't know if there was no war and even when people had that rhetoric back then when it was like, my Jay won 'cause Jay was president of the Dev Jam and he ended up signing. Like, I don't look at it like that. I look at it as two individuals who wins the war take. Nas won, like Jay dropped them. He was down on the mat. It got the nine and he jumped up like the undertaker. I mean, Nas was down three-one when he came home. back would eat the boom, then it was, you know, the blueprint, that way it was the super ugly, then I think it was the last, the last Rundika live, then at some point Blueprint tool came out and the gift in the curse, whatever it was, they ended up making peace. I don't think there was ever a war. - What about like half of that one battle? - What about the career, the war of careers, in a competitive sport of music? - Nozzles. - Oh, we talk, what are we talking about now? 'Cause now I don't think people realize how up, nozzles. - Well, that's the other thing. Nas is up in-- - Invested in Uber. - No, no, no, he's crazy. - Like, the VC is ridiculous. Like, he's re-gotten the casino in Queensland. Like, go look at Nas's portfolio. - No, Nas is crazy, right now. - These are two men who both went on to have extremely successful careers and guess what's going to happen with Kendrick and Drake. Two men who are going to be, go on to have extremely successful careers. - But no ceasefire. - No ceasefire. - As of now. - As of now. As of now, no ceasefire. - I think that's it, guys. That's all I got for today. - We good? - We good. - All right. As always, if you look to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple of ideas that don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the brilliant ideas podcast. Thank you for listening. - Peace.