Why Trump’s Biggest Weakness Is About to Doom Him

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I like that. Let's do that you call me Mike from now. Okay. All right. I'm going to call you my and I'm going to call you and I'm going to call you grandma. Yes. I've never met anyone less like a Mike than you but but anyway we once had a producer that called you Mike and you were like You were so disconvolved related anyway. We have a lot to discuss we have a lot to discuss today not least Melania's enthusiasm for a I as the rest of the world has a complete free copper lips about a I Melania is out there with young people encouraging them to embrace a I we will definitely come to that Fencing going up around the Kennedy Center because if Donald Trump can't have his name on it then none of us can go and see Anything there. What else are we talking about Michael? Well, we're going to get to his Achilles heel which is affordability Affordability. Does he have two Achilles heel? He might have two Achilles heels. Yes. Yes. He had only yes. Isn't that how he got out of the draft. Very good. Very good. Yes. He's got bone spares on both on both his Achilles heels. I was thinking you were going to say the forever war. But I know I do think that this is this is the thing that I mean all of the other things which he might somehow because he's Donald Trump escape In the midterms the for these prices which keep going up and up in our kind of rather astounding if you see them over not just the inflation 3% 4% 5% inflation but really look at this over a span of time over a relatively short span of time but nevertheless A number of years you see that people are getting are hurting getting smacked all of Yeah, I feel it every time I go to the grocery store I went down to had a friend in from England I went to make her I thought I'm going to cook and I thought it'd be much cheaper Than getting out for dinner and actually by the time I bought the ingredients he didn't feel like cheaper at all. Anyway, so we're going to talk about Kevin Walsh basically raising the interest rate though the one thing that Trump was on Jerome Powell the previous chairman of the Fed you know he kept going on you've got to lower interest rates and now his Person is raising them so we'll talk about that. I think we should do the midterms the polling too because I think we're we're at this this moment starting to gain some potential clarity About the the extent of the wipe out to come now this is obviously optimistic on my part but But the numbers seem to bear this out. The numbers seem to bear it out we could also talk about cash Patel cash Patel with his enormous eyes that look as if they're slightly crossed In the committee firing chair where I course audience of one but it turns out that he well we'll get into it but he's managed to fire 1200 agents and then of course they've reduced The qualifications for joining the FBI so if there's anybody listening out who wants to join the FBI this might be your moment. And then let's finish with my favorite story the Lee Greenwald story or the Mrs Greenwald story. Mrs Greenwood Lee Greenwood but we have to remind people Michael to come and see us live at the Telegram Bullroom in Los Angeles L.A. On October the 20th and if you'd like to book tickets come and meet us. We need to go to beast.pub/ithlive that's beast.pub/ithlive and you can also find tickets on ticket master and of course don't forget to subscribe to the Daily Beast wherever you get your podcasts. Michael take it away and we will be doing an up to the minute on the midterms so I will see if we're feeling good or feeling bad but in depth coverage of the midterm moment and what we have to look forward to which will be either which will be either way existential. Yeah because it's the most important election although isn't every election the most important. Well every Trump election yes I mean every Trump election is transformational. Yes it is it is and you know what else is transformational Michael you led me there AI. And well AI who has a new supporter that intellect that intellectual powerhouse Melania Trump and she may be supporting this because her book Melania appears to have been written entirely. You always say this you always say this because nobody is back. I am the only one who has read the book cover to cover. I skimmed it I skimmed it I skimmed it it is true that there is no single person thanked in her book it's very strange it's very strange. But she's out there talking enthusiastically about AI and how it's the future. Do you think that she's enthusiastic and everything she's robotic herself rather than necessarily enthusiastic. She could be the nearest and we've got to an AI first lady let's listen to the clip. Shortly I will visit your classroom and I cannot wait to see what you have been learning. I'm specially excited to hear about your work with AI as you begin new as you begin new school year. Remember to take your education seriously. Stay curious and always challenge yourself. Now of course she didn't write any of this and it's very likely that she is seeing this for the first time as she reads it or seconds before. When she does the the quick run through I mean remember she is the first lady who once gave a speech at the in 2016 at the Republican convention that turns out to be a speech that was plagiarized from from Michelle Obama. Of course I'd forgotten that I'd forgotten that she doesn't give a there's not a lot of a lot of importance given to the words in front of her. Well it was probably also aided if not written by AI. Do you think well no I actually know this that this would have been negotiated from the White House so this would have been on the calendar that she was doing this event. And then people in the White House would have lobbied let's see if we can get her to talk about this or that or or whatever is on the the White House agenda or or whatever they think it would be a good look for the first lady to talk about. And they would have thrown out a lot of things and someone on her side not necessarily her would have said I said oh yeah okay AI that sounds like like it will make the first it will make her sound smart we'll talk about AI. If White House has felt like a losing battle this summer can be different skip the guesswork. can try weight loss by hymns. 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WGOV clinical study information and restrictions visit hymns.com/ith. I wonder if Mark Beckman, her advisor, is involved, because she's really only got five staff at the White House, right? I did think when she said shortly, I've been visited your classroom. It sounded like a threat. I wonder if the entire book, I recommend the book, Melania, as an example of what books will be like in the AI age. There is nothing. There's no wrinkle. The surface does not break for a second. There is no personal detail, no tonal indication of who you are and what your personality might be. It is just as smooth as the smoothest ice, as she sometimes seems. And could be similarly said of her documentary, which gave nothing away, and yet gave quite a lot of way in the absences of what she talks about. It occurs to me, so she has this show coming up on Amazon. Actually, I think it's effectively a series, many Melania shows, which they are probably now filming, and they probably thought, "Oh, let's have her talk about AI for this show that will make her give her substance." This is probably a setup which she will then monetize. We'll see this in the reality show that she's doing. We'll see this all over again, with the robotic ham. Does she have the president and his family have interest as AI goes so they're a net worth grows? That's a good line. That was almost worthy of a limerick, Michael. And so does Melania have a stake in the Trump's AI interest? Possibly. It's also possible they decided to do this speech 10 days ago before the AI free-copy lips, as I'm calling it. I don't know if that's a word. Oh, very. Yes. I think likely, because why would she want to get in the middle of this particular controversy? That timing is bizarre. And why would she want to be on the side of her husband? She is very careful to keep her distance. Well, anyway, she was at a North Carolina school hugging children, so I'm sure that you're right that it will. We will see that in one of the episodes of her show, which frankly, I can't wait for on Amazon. I'm sure it'll be an absolute knockout. So we think that basically the reason she's talking about AI, this was decided before everybody started saying that AI was going to kill us, because she sounds former Melania extremely enthusiastic about it. So your future AI is all gone to help us. She's not saying anything about the recent warnings that it's going to kill us all in 10 years time. The children, you better crawl under your desks. AI is coming for you. All there's an active first lady drill. She did say, of course, we need to be vigilant, but this is our future and we need to guide them and teach them what is available. If not, they will stay behind and we need to be the first in the United States to lead. Yes, the China card. The China card. The Kennedy Center. I'm really interested in this because she's also on the board of the Kennedy Center, right? I wonder if she was at the meeting or did she phone into the meeting. Yeah, well, it was a virtual meeting. This was a meeting that we heard about. We got the details from Joyce Beaty, 76. Congresswoman Ohio is having a moment in the sun because she said that she, so she's an ex officio member of the board and she said that Trump, when he came on the virtual meeting, which was scheduled for an hour, to deal with the fact that he had lost the right to put his name on the building and we should just step back a moment to say that Congresswoman Beaty sued over Trump trying to put his name on the building and the court came back and said he definitely can't do that. There is no room for him on this monument to a slain president. Anyway, she says that he threw a tantrum. Hold on, the court has said that two times. So the court said this that it could not be the Donald Trump and John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, the Donald J. Trump and John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts. Then they tried to do that it would say something like the Kennedy Center, renovated and who knows what else by Donald J. Trump. And the court has ruled that they can't put that on the side of the building either. I think that ruling was just yesterday or the day before and that's probably what this meeting they had was meant to address because he has been threatening more than threatening. I mean, he has basically said, so let's go. I think we did this the other day, but it's two it's too wonderful not to do it again that the Kennedy Center is in financial extremists because of because when he put his name on the building, there was a flight of both performers and audience. Now he is saying that unless a way is found, if a way isn't found for his name to go on the building, he will not raise the money to solve the problem that was created by his efforts to get his name put on the building. So that is the situation at the moment in the Kennedy Center and the courts have now said, no, you absolutely cannot have your name on the Kennedy Center. So he is saying then no more money for the Kennedy Center. It goes into we don't know into some into some place we can't imagine including but including bankruptcy quite possibly and and it is closing down as closed down. Right. And in fact, today they put fencing around it as we're recording this. They put fencing around it. But what Congresswoman Beaty told MS now actually was that Trump came on the call. He threw a tantrum and then she said, and I'm going to quote her, it was the most unprofessional thing that I've ever witnessed or been a part of. He went into name calling everything from trying to say that I was an obstructionist, I was dumb. He said, I think you're incompetent. And I said, I know you're incompetent. So, you know, childlike meeting. And she she wasn't running an iPhone. We don't have a recording of this. You know, these why don't we have a last last. That would have been an amazing thing. Yes, please anybody out there listening who has a recording of this meeting. Please send it to us. And why does everybody record meetings they have with the president? Yeah, I do. You do. So yes. Do you have some tapes you can play us? Of the president? Sure. Yeah. Michael, we should do that. We should we should have some clips. We should do a show devoted to clips from him that perhaps you've used in in your books. Let me think about that. I mean, it's, I resist doing this. and have always resisted doing this because why? I don't know why, because I'm a writer, not a podcast producer, but who knows, here I am. Where I never thought I'd be. - Right, and I suspect that you might not be able to find them. Do you know what? - Oh, well, that's always this, not precisely. - Okay, well, it's definitely worth thinking about for a future episode, but we should also speak about affordability, as you said, it seems like you can. - No, but before we get there, because I think that there's an interesting thing, they've put this fence up around the Kennedy Center. You know, they put this fence up, like they do in construction sites, so you can't see what's going on. Now, we know that Trump is perfectly capable of bringing bulldozers in and bulldozing buildings that we might otherwise think of as protected, if not even sacrosan. So, is it possible behind this fence that the Kennedy Center is going to be turned into rubble? - What a terrible thought, but you're right. Look what happened with the East Wing. Nobody thought that that would happen. The East Wing, it's hard to imagine anybody doing that apart from Donald Trump. And as you say, it's the way in the thing here is you're not given any warning. This happens in the dead of night. - Right, and also it's the old New York developer trick that you just take a building down, 'cause once it's down, you can't rebuild it. So, I suppose he could take it down. I wonder if he would find a construction crew to do that, or if I suppose people get paid to do it, they would do it. - Yeah, well, he's already done this. I mean, he's already taken down. - Yeah, bring in the same crew that did the East Wing. - So then this thing is if there is no more Kennedy Center, could he then erect the Trump Center? - Isn't that what the bullroom is? I feel like the bullroom is the Trump Center. But maybe he wants more than one. - In the world of Donald Trump, there could you know how many buildings were named, the Trump, this, that, the other thing in New York City? We should make sure that Farrah Thomasin and Sarah Yule, Weiss and David Gardner are team in DC. We should have one of them camping outside the Kennedy Center all times in case bulldozing machines come in. - And then? - Well, at least then we'll be reporting on it. Right, well, perhaps one of them will stand in front of it. Then they'll get arrested for obstruction. - Think about the last time you called a business and nobody picked up, what did you do? You called the next one. Your customers do exactly the same thing. That's why today's episode is brought to you by Quo, spelled Q-U-O. The business phone system built so you never miss a call. All your calls, texts and voicemails live in one place. So anyone on your team can pick up a conversation. See the full history and respond fast. Set up in minutes on any device. Keep your existing number and add teammates as you grow. No IT, no hassle. 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But perhaps the thing that may be the, at the top of this list is this affordability issue, which cuts across, there's almost no, there's no ideology attached to that, no partisanship. It's just things are way more expensive than people believe they ought to be. And when that happens, you look for someone to blame. There's one logical person to blame and that's the president in the United States. In all fairness to point out, it is not just Donald Trump. This is, but Donald Trump, the buck stops here because he is the president. So since 2012, the prices of, the price of beef has gone up by 90%. Bread 46%. Alcoholic beverages, 31%. Furniture, 20%. New cars, 25%. And people salaries, wages. Those 9%. The only thing that generally has gone down in a basket of the things that people deal with on a continual basis are appliances. Appliances are cheaper. Not the new iPhone, not the new foldable iPhone. That's not cheaper, that's $2,000. Are you going to get one? A new iPhone is a new product, new features, new, this, that, the other thing. I mean, if last year's iPhone went up in price, which it may well have been, I'm not sure. And without any change, without any improvements, that would be something. But a foldable iPhone, whether people buy it or not, I don't know, is apparently an improvement. But anyway, I think those devices make people conscious of the price of things because they have an inbuilt obsolescence. So you know that your iPad is only going to last you two years or three years max. So I actually think that bringing out a new foldable foldable phone for people at $2,000 makes people think, what, what, that's expensive. That's very expensive for a phone. At any rate, this is on Donald Trump. And it is not, and the price of, we're also talking about the price of, the price of oil, which underpins a lot of this. The price of oil has now hit. I think, I think last week hit, the Brent crude price, $107. So we're over that $100 mark, which was, which has been the crisis point. Now we're over the crisis point. So, and with, with, with, no, with all indications are that this is going to get worse. The war is, the war is now, we are not, we are only occasionally shooting in this war, but it is a war that has, that has in which the Iranians have been able to shoot back at us in a different way, which is to make the price of oil more and more expensive. The hoothies have now closed down. Let's see if we can, if we can get the name of that straight. The Bab Al Mandab straight, which isn't quite as, as fun to say as the straight of Hormuz. But, Bab Al Mandab also commands a significant part of the world's oil, oil will get more expensive. It will get more expensive this week, then next week, then the week after, up until the midterms. - Right, and of course, we've got an increase in interest rates, which makes it more, much more expensive for people to buy a home, because mortgages will go up. And, and the thing I'm sort of puzzled about was that Donald Trump has made this whole thing about interest rates must come down. He tortured Jerome Pearl the previous fed chair over this. And then he finally got his guy in, although Jerome Pearl was his guy from the previous administration, finally put in Kevin Walsh, who then set about increasing interest rates. Now, of course, he's doing that to control inflation, but it's one thing that Donald Trump keeps saying he wants to lower. - I mean, he wants to lower inflation and interest rates. - No, but Walsh, he wants to. Yeah, but he keeps saying I want to lower interest rates because he understands that there's a visual. It's a visceral reaction, I think, to interest rates going up and mortgage rates going up and it stops the housing markets, harder to sell. I'm politically terribly terrible for him. And, but what he is saying is that, I mean, classic, classic, you know, I would, I would prefer the short-term gain for myself, rather than the long-term gain of lowering inflation. So, I mean, it is right now that he is focused because he knows that this is so detrimental to him, but he can't do anything about it. I mean, that's how bad things are. He hasn't, he hasn't, and remember, part of the part, this is of his own making, the wars of his own making, tariffs are of of his own making. They are the kinds of things that contribute to raising prices inflation. In other words, which means that interest rates have to have to go up in order for inflation to ultimately come down. So Donald Trump has screwed, has screwed himself, which he does over and over and over again. I know people talk about his comeback and his winning the second administration as if this was the biggest political comeback, which certainly was a big comeback and unexpected in some quarters. But also, as you've always made the point, he has the ability to self-destruct, and that's literally what we're seeing him doing. Trump is self-destructing with his own policies. No, and you can say this. He came into office with this, I mean, this, that whole first year of of catching everyone off guard because of him charging ahead in, I can do what I want because I am the president. I will do what I want. No one will stop me and I'm going to do it as fast as I possibly can, which he did. But the problem with all that is that that means nothing is particularly fought out. Do this. Do this. Do this. And which means that a year and a half later, you're reaping the benefit or reaping the opposite of the benefit of not having fought out, pace the cause and effect here. You do this. It's going to have that effect. And that is all now biting him in the ass as we approach the midterms in seven weeks, less than seven weeks. Yeah, it's under 50 days now, I think. And also he surrounded himself, and we've said this before, with incompetence, with utter incompetence. So we've got a war that we're not winning. And we've got an economy that's not winning right now. And we've got cash Patel at the FBI. We've got cash Patel at the FBI. He has done a Heggers, he's pulled a Heggers and he's fired a lot of their top people. He's fired 1200 agents with an average of 22 years service for each of them. So taken out a really senior layer of FBI officials. Well, I mean, let's compare that also to what Heggers has done at the Pentagon, taken out, taken out layer after layer of senior of senior officers in the United States military. So what's happening here? I mean, both of these guys, cash Patel and and and Hegg Sith are not acting on their own. What they are doing is trying to please the president of the United States, who is saying, fire everybody. I don't trust these people. They're against me, fire them, fire them, get rid of them. They're the deep state, fire them. And and that's what that's what cash Patel has done. That's what Heggers has done. Again, not having, I mean, it's as though they don't really exist in this equation, except to get the blame for it, because they are doing exactly what Donald Trump tells them to do or what they believe they have to do in order to gain Donald Trump's favor. Well, if there's anybody out there and you want to join the FBI, you will be interested to know that the qualifications have somewhat changed. It used to be very strict to be able to join the FBI. But now it turns out you're allowed to be accused of sexual harassment. You are allowed to have stolen from your employer. And strangely, bestiality has been ruled out as a disqualifier. Bestiality. How was, what was the language for this? I don't know the precise language. I was just struck by the word bestiality and wondered how, how it would come up in a job interview. Anyway, the good news is it's not a disqualifier. So if animals are your thing, perhaps the FBI might be your thing. I know Mrs. Greenwood is your thing. I don't know. I was wondering how you were going to segue from that. And I was going to let you twirl out in there. Yes, Mrs. Greenwood, a Kimberly Greenwood. Now Lee Greenwood, you will know, and perhaps you will serenade us. I'm not going to do that because you're so rude when I sing. You're so rude when I sang, although I did do a little of Petula Clark on Tuesday, which some people are appreciated, Michael. Really? Yeah, a couple of people liked it. No, that's a pity like. No, a couple of people said you were rude and that I had a nice voice and I could hold a tune, but I'm not going to sing proud to be an American because I'm not going to give you the satisfaction. So Mrs. Greenwood has just been nominated to be the ambassador to Barbados. Now, is she taking Lee with him with her? I imagine she is. I don't know. I mean, Barbados is lovely. I'm rather envy is such that I would like to be ambassador to Barbados. Yeah, no, no, but well, you would have to be the spouse of the president of Donald Trump's favorite beyond far and away of any other musical act. Lee Greenwood. Lee Greenwood. And of course, he loves Limits because Limits was the first thing he put on at the now ailing Kennedy Center. Now, it was Lee Greenwood's song that before Donald Trump was that in any kind of currency, I don't remember. Yes, it came into currency after 9/11. Lee Greenwood came back after 9/11 because it's a very moving song, less moving when it's attached to Donald Trump, of course, but it is a very moving song, proud to be an American. You thought you find this song moving? It's interesting. Let's take a minute. I always find songs about America moving as a recent, an immigrant I find and the star-spangled banner, I just start crying. I mean, it's the only thing that can reduce me to tears. And you're the only one apparently it can reduce to tears. Look, I'm even wearing a star. This is the perfect outfit for this conversation. But I wonder if she'll take him. Maybe he'll do a he'll he'll write songs about Barbados. It's a beautiful island, so I'm very jealous of them going there. But just let's let's add this. I mean, it is true that there are in past presidencies, ambassadors have presidents have doled out certain ambassadorships as a kind of as a kind of favor. But I think that this is a I think even Trump has stretched the boundaries of credulity with this one. Well, we're not planning to do a takeover of Barbados, so it's not like she's being asked to pick up diplomatic relations with Cuba. I suspect that there's a fairly cordial relationship with Barbados. Do you think that she could stir up trouble? I don't know. I should know. It probably requires no, no, no finesse or skill set at all. Nevertheless, it's still this obviously is part and parcel with the pattern of Donald Trump's appointment of cross all jobs in his administration. Who gets them? People who have no credentials, experience or and bring nothing to the job at hand except that I don't know. I can't even think of these as what does Donald Trump? What goes through his head? What are the most inappropriate? I mean, what we should do is we should open this up to comments who are the most inappropriate people in in their jobs because because you could argue it's Steve Whitcoff and Jared. - But no, what then, I mean, Steve Whitcoff and Jared are, I mean, at least they have had jobs. They've had some success in life rather than Pete Higgseth, rather than, you know, Bobby Kennedy Jr., rather than Cash Patel. I mean, it's, you can go down the line. It would be, it is much easier. It would be much, much more easier to isolate one person who might be reasonably qualified for the job and in this administration. - Okay, who is the person qualified for the job? - I, well, I mean, you know, Marco Rubio, no particular favor to mind, but anyway, Marco Rubio is a political professional in who has a job in this administration. Almost virtually nobody else is. - Well, nobody else would take the jobs, I think, right? - Well, you know, Jesus, I don't know. Is that the reason? No, I don't think that's the reason. I mean, I mean, clearly in the first administration, there were people who took, who were, had records of success before they went into the administration. They were people who theoretically could have advised, given the president and the United States advice that he might have benefited from. In this administration, there are none of those people. There are none of those people, why? Either because they wouldn't take the job, but I don't think that's the reason. It's just he doesn't want that advice. He doesn't want people to say, hey, have you really thought this through, hey, there might be a different way of looking at this. Hey, that is a really, that is gonna really turn out very badly. None of that, he doesn't want to hear any of this, which is why after 18 months, he is now dealing with all of these failed policies. I mean, one of the reasons, but the other reason is that he is not just that there is no one to tell him that he shouldn't be doing this, but because he literally does not want anyone to tell him that. Well, it's less than 50 days to go until the midterms and America will have a chance to say what it thinks about him two years into his second term. Don't forget to comment on your favorite part of the conversation, who do you think is the most competent cabinet member out there? And again, don't forget to come and see Michael and me live, the Terra-Gramball Room in LA, downtown LA, on the 20th of October, and it's all you have to do is go to beast.pub/ithlive and book your ticket. - And I'd rather hear your opinion of the least confident. That's because that's harder. - I think it's easier the least competent. - No, who is the least, what do you mean? Out of these, you're gonna pick someone. 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