Why Is Disclosure Happening NOW? w/ Jeremy Corbell | Your Mom's House Ep. 862

Welcome. Welcome to your mom's house. Okay, hi. It's me, Christina P. Tom is out of town. And I have taken over and officially made this show weird as fuck. But first I want to plug Brayette June 5th and 6th. I'm going to be there doing shows by the time this airs. Yeah, this will be there. Okay. You guys, I'm so fucking stoked to have this person on. We have so many mutual friends. And I've been dying to meet him. Please welcome to your mom's house. Jeremy Corbyl. What up, Christina? Oh my God. I wanted to meet you too. You know, we do have mutual friends, but do not judge each other by the friends we have. Back it goes sideways. Your documentary sleeping dog is out now. Yes. And listen, I've been following you for years. I've seen you. Okay. Okay. But I got into you when David Grush testified. That was the first time I was like, wait, what? This is in Congress. This guy is talking about what? And then I went down the rabbit hole straight to you. So tell us about this documentary and why it's so important. John Lear said in the documentary, you've fallen down the rabbit hole and there's no hope. And that's all that's ringing in my head right now when you said you fell down the rabbit hole. There's no hope. There's fucking hope. I don't remember the question you asked me, but I want to say something before we start. Yeah. Never in my life has somebody given me a case of tall boy. Yeah. Coors, bankwits. Yeah. Christina. That's what we take. I am the fastest right now. Let's get ripped, dude. I'm going to smoke six. We're going to drink your cores. We're going to talk about aliens. Okay. Let me ask you some questions. And before we get into the documentary, you guys have to watch this. The document. Oh, yeah. You've got to watch sleeping dog. If you're remotely interested in this UAP, which I fucking hate UFOs, whatever is going on in the sky. As you guys know, last time I talked about how I see orbs. And I think this stuff is very fucking real. But first things first is David Grush still alive. Yes. Yes. I texted with him this morning. Oh, that's so sad. I love him so much. No, he should be protected. He is an American hero. He will go down in the history books as a guy that told the truth, broken the fold. Yeah. And did something. What he said is true. And now everybody has to catch up. Let's just David Grush. David Grush is a real American hero. And for those of you who are a little skeptical, David Grush wasn't he a pilot? He works in the government. These are these are pilots coming forward. Go ahead. He participated in a remote piloting thing of some really special craft. But no, he is a full blown. He did serve in the Air Force. He did go to Iraq. But his main job is intelligence. It's always been intelligence. He is a very interesting, minded individual in that he's, I don't know the right word, but his mind can recall. It's like a form of autism. But it's there's different forms. And I looked up his form and it can be very powerful. So basically, he is an intelligence officer. He has a long career. Work for space force. I mean, this guy is legit. Our country trusted him with some of our greatest secrets and then tasked him his specific job, how he fell down the rabbit hole like you. Other than looking in Star Trek, when he was a kid, you know, because that's a nerdy thing to do. What he did, he was given the task to go look at the black budgets, the black budget programs are more that the saps, which are like, I hate these. I know a tip arrow saps. So this is super easy. I was going to make a joke about the name of your show and that I couldn't come up with a good acronym. So he was tasked with looking into who's hiding and who has knowledge of non-human intelligence, UAP or UFO craft parts, biologic bodies. That was literally his official job. And he is so vestidious. And he's so intelligent as he went after it. He did over 40 interviews that were then put over into ICIG, which is just intelligence community inspector general. It was like a report saying, holy shit Houston, we have a problem. They've been hiding the funds and these properties. It's a money thing. Yeah, it isn't. It's bigger than that. So that was that's David Gress. That was his job. And he did his job. And he did it so well that they that he became a threat. He became a threat. The whole task David crush with that initial job. His name is Jay Straton and Jay Straton. I think he's like, there's a book coming out about him. You see him in like, oh, the first time he ever saw him was on my show weaponized. We George and I do a lot of interviews that we don't publish. But early on, we used a clip. It was at in rocket city. We went to go and meet with him. And we got him talking about it on camera. He ran what's called the UAP DTF, which is the UAP, which just means unidentified anomalous phenomenon, which is actually a better name than UFO. Just you have his way of fucking cooler. But I'll tell you why it's a better name. And then TF is task force. So Jay Straton ran the UAP TF, the UAP task force. And he tasked David Grush. This is how I understand it. I believe it to be accurate with digging in, finding out where the craft were, where the assets were, who's hiding it, where the money goes, who we can interview, who has direct exposure, who worked on the craft. Fucking David Grush was like, he went for it. So rad. Then he realized what happened, motherfucker leaned over to George Napa and said, I'm coming forward. And I don't know how this is done. It's legal. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I have it on film. I was just filming George at a bar in Rocket City because I was bored and in leans this guy and I'm protective of George. And then I realized, oh, that's the guy I'm supposed to meet. That's the, I never physically met him before. And I said, let's sus this fuck her out. Because it took about a, it took about a year. Oh, for real. Oh, dude. George and I don't fuck around. Yeah. Just to meet people know that Jeremy Corbell is a journalist. You know what? Shit, I was so excited to see you. I didn't even do our intro. I'm sorry, you guys. Hold on. Before we go any further, you got to watch this clip. I think this will really set us up for something nice. A nice discussion of what all that. Who's ready to wrestle? I am. I am. I'm, I'm, I'm ready to wrestle. Don't bring anyone loving to this. No, I'm in the fucking stand. Well, well, well, well, I'm going to do a James. I'm going to fall out. And Christina Pajitzi. Pajitzi? Who knew it? It's super cool. Pajitzi. Brought a slava. Oh, grandfather. No, no, no, no. It seems so long. You have like dreams where this just keeps playing before you have to get a cursa. These kids made me a new theme song, by the way. They just gave it to me yesterday. I'll play it in the microphone at the end. It's hilarious. All right. Here we go. We're ready to wrestle. That's, that's our friend there. He runs a 24 hour gym. That's your buddy? No, he just, yeah, he's ready to wrestle. He's ready to wrestle. He's going to get abducted by grace and annually probe. Okay. So, so back to, can you bring up a picture of David Grush? If you guys have like three hours to spend, that's what we're about to do. Go back and watch this congressional hearing. Look at how they try to put these funny facial expressions on him. That's part of this process of diminishing them. You know, he is, look at that one with the white shirt where he's looking straight. That's nice. Yeah, they've got some time magazine did one of him. Yeah, they tried to make him have a funny expression that one on the far left is cool. Yeah, and then also just so you know on either side of David Grush are like decorated. Military people, right? These are not friends. I got them all. Okay. So I got the commander, David Fraver on Grush's left. If I recall, on his right is Ryan Graves, both pilots, specifically the guy on the far, the guy on David's left is commander David Fraver. He is top guy. He is, he was ahead of the black, you know, all this. Well, yeah, I'm a fucking door. I don't need to say stuff. No, but for the audience, say it out loud because people don't know. Commander David Fraver chased a UFO for the United States military. He was top gun mother, fucker, head of the black aces, VFA 41. So I actually got him many, many, many years before the world ever knew about him. And I was coached like you got a talk pilot. I'm like, okay, okay, psyched myself up. I hide in my closet. So it sounds good. And I go. Hey, my name is Jeremy Corbell. And, um, just don't hang up. I know about what happened in 2004 and I'm a journalist but I'm not going to say anything. I just want to ask you some questions. How the fuck you get my number? Like it started like that and I told them it was your buddy with the loose lips who gave you a number. So I knew everything about the case and everybody thinks that case was broke in the New York Times. Yeah, that's right. The article came out during the pandemic, right? 2017, the World Chains, you know, great article opened up this whole thing about UAP. However, some of it was inaccurate, like completely inaccurate and we can get into that. But the premise is actually perfect because it's true. But David and I, Commander Fraver says, don't ever call him that. I always call him that. We're really good friends now, right? The thing is why we're really good friends are part of the premises. I never burned him. I told him this story is huge. The world's going to hear about it one day. They won't hear about it from me. But if I were you, you know, I would just know that the world's going to hear about this and your life is going to change. You're going to be known from your entire fight courage. 9/11 he flew over LA to protect it. He did crazy shit on missions. But what you're going to be known for is that five minutes that you chased UFO and he was didn't believe me. I said, look, I'm not going to leak it. So why were such good friends is because, well, we both like having a beer. No, but why were good friends is because I didn't leak his story. Part of talent secrets is keeping him. So when his name went public, I literally called him. I said, it happened. It was what happened. And I go, your name just got put out there. Not by me. I told you it would happen. Yeah. And he was like show angry because it's not that he was hiding from it. It's just that nobody wants that public attention. You don't know what it's going to mean. So for your audience, Commander David Fraver, he saw what's called the tic tac. The tic tac. Bring up the tic tac video. It's on Wikipedia, by the way, which is fucking crazy. So during the pandemic, there were like with three or four videos leaked from the Pentagon that showed like the tic tac, the go fast. I forget what's the other one, the gimbal. And I remember it was so quietly just put there in the middle of a pandemic. And nobody gave her shit. People were like, who gives a fuck? Aliens can't pay my bills. We're in the middle of a pandemic. Right. And I'm like, yeah, I get that. But let's take a look. Your mother is doing stand up in Brea, California, June 5th and 6th Chicago, Illinois, September 18th and 19th. Get your tickets at Christina P dot com. Welcome to the mystery boys. I'm Kermis Dres white closeness. Dunston, who do we're here to gap your fourth eye? Three eye atlas, JFK's doctor, Hamas Hitler's doctor, MK Ultra, Drina Crown, Elsa Crowley, you ain't heard the mystery boys get to I didn't see one dick in those catacombs and I looked everywhere. Well, this is the show, guys. I hope that your mom's house is happy. 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It's no one listens late night show, but if you go back and listen, we broke it and just so happen somehow that video got sent to me hours before I went on and because it was like mythological for a while I was like there's this video being passed around. I don't know who sent it to me, but it was somebody in the know that I was going to go on a show. So I broke that story with George and I'll say twice before the New York Times article and I'm not bragging. I'm just confessing and here's why people need to really understand. People didn't want this out. Everything was provoked. It was every inch and millimeter we've made from the government, every video that George and I've ever put out that's military filmed. It's a risk to do it to to sources and it was provoked. This is not the government giving you shit. So this is what's interesting Jeremy Corbell, because I've been asking this question since I've watched David Grush on this congressional hearing with you in the background by the way, is that why now? Why disclosure now? I was like why would the government what interest do they have and letting the people know now? Yeah, all this stuff is real aliens are real. Why? Why now? But you're telling me it was provoked. So it sounds like they're either getting ahead of a narrative. They're shaping it. They're shaping it. They're shaping it. In a CIA document that I saw shape the emerging UAP narrative that they're so interesting. So when they got on their heels after you know the 2004 tic-tac incident came out and the gimbal video came out the gov at the tic-tac, they started a campaign of cyber warfare to discriminate against the people that have served the country. There was coordinated efforts to diminish their presence, like they did with David Grush with his PTSD. First question asked. Oh, I remember that. Like, like he does David Grush, come on. They're trying to discredit him by saying he has like mental illness or something like the guy is such a straight arrow. Come on. He's a straight arrow. He had like a family guy's normal. He had a PTSD. And that's what they went after. But the guy that put that out, he admitted the intelligence agencies leaked it to him. Why are intelligence agencies leaking a medical issue about a PTSD about why? Because you know why. So why do they want it out now when I answer your question directly. So I'm not accused of not. There may be great people on the inside that feel that it's far past time to admit the fundamental aspects of what they know. They don't know everything about the UAP presence and contact with human beings that has been going on since beginning of recorded human history at least. I know that to be true. That there are good people in government that think the world should know. And I know 50% of people though in government that will fight vehemently. That's the right word to never let you know. Okay, so let's talk about this just from a philosophical human human thing. What is the big whoop if we find out that aliens are real? What do you? Okay, so I usually interview people when I'm being interviewed. Let me just ask you real quick. What do you think the big whoop would be? I'll tell you if you really want to know. I want to know how much time you got Jeremy. I'm here all day. Let's get fucking crazy. I'll tell you why because I think, you know, David Grush put it out there. I did not the first to say this that we have we have materials that have been whatever taken from crash sites. We have non-human biologics. Bob Lazar has said as much that he worked at area 51 back in the 80s. He mentioned element 115, which surprise surprise is now actually on the periodic table of elements. I think we always knew that was going to happen by the way, but go on. Well, I think that we've reversed engineered some stuff and we want to keep it a secret. And maybe that's the impetus to like, these are war, these are good. going to be used as war weapons or are being used as war weapons and that threatens security somehow. Is that? Is that somewhat? Yeah, that is like a really great way to explain it in the basics. I'm going to add to it a little bit. Right? Here we go. You like that bitch. This is why I can't wait. Let's fucking like this. For years. Let's like this. Yeah. Let's get fucking weird, man. Okay. Oh, it's also weird that you don't even have to try to make it. Wait. I have even further. Okay, but go ahead. I have up to you. You're the boss and also your mom's house. Sure, bitch. Okay. Okay. Oh, you bitch back. We're all good, bitch. Let's go. And in tandem to this reverse engineering stuff, are the existence of orbs? Are the existence of quote, good beings or extraterrestrial beings that do want to push humanity and help us along? There's that element too. So you just went from a really like concrete thing to what my mom would say. She'd be all hey, Christina, you'd be like, what? And she'd be like, you're dicks in the peanut butter. And you'd be like, what do you mean? She goes, you're fucking nuts. So she's like, so you went from, but, but there is something to it, but you went from there. But then you have the blood. So let's hold on. Let's talk to the blood. So family, who's been documenting these orbs for 20 years? And they claim to have spiritual experience. There's a lot of people that see this shit. And I've documented it. So you've got that. And then you've got the war mongering. And then you also get, you know, people that they see something for real. And then every fucking plane is an orb or you have to protect your own mind against that because it's so exciting to know that we're living in a reality that is far deeper. And that there's something else penetrates into our environment that we are unable to experience on an average day. So it becomes exciting. And when that becomes, you have to, you have to guard yourself. Yes. You'll get psychosis. That's what the people are like. I see the number 444. I see angels. I'm going to keep your mind open. But don't let the marble spill out because we only got limited marbles. Course babes. Okay. So tell me your part. When am I missing? Okay. So, okay. Let's reverse the taste of my mind. Okay. So about why it's secret. That was the thing. Why is the government keeping it? Why did they kept it secret? It was kind of your question. Okay. I'll tell you exactly from an informed point of view. Like this is not speculation. I have met with under Department of Justice. I have met with weapons of mass destruction specialist that focus on the UAP issue. Now, why would UFOs be classified higher than weapons of mass destruction? It makes no sense. So your first thought, or my first thought was, and I talked with Commander Fraver about this, well, if you got a tick-tax technology, whoever gets that technology firstly, because you could literally drop off a nuke and drop down from 80,000 feet to ground level less than a second and go back up, drop a nuke. Nobody knows who did it. That's different than launching and then they're going. So that's the first thought I had is why keep this secret is because we want strategic advantage for strategic surprise as a technologically advanced nation. Cool. We want to be dumb. Yeah, go America. And that's reversed engineered stuff. No. So that is the premise of the secrecy. It's a cold war mentality. Mm-hmm. Once we realized, oh, fuck, these technologies, they could do shit force and they could do shit for other countries in Russia and China also have craft that have been gifted or landed or whatever you want to say or crashed. So what America did is use the architecture of the nuclear program to hide the reverse engineering and compartmentalize the programs to, and I quote, exploit for derivative technologies because you can't build the UFO. You don't have zero gravity environment where you can make the metamaterials, right? But what you can do is if you like, figure out a tiny little part of it, that could create a huge weaponization capability. So you understand, it's not so much like religion would crumble. It's not so much like they've kept this secret so long they're keeping the secret that they kept the secret. It's an infinite regret. I understand what you're saying. So in order for them to come out and go, yeah, this all exists, they'd have to call themselves liars. They'd have to admit to a diabolical lie. They'd have to admit to murder. Yes. They'd have to admit to harming people, to silencing them, to trapping them. MK Ultra showed us that in fact, in fact, R CIA was operating against Americans. 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So the CIA is actively, or we're actively, so that's historical fact. That's historical. We know everyone about three days ago, a CIA employee testified in front of Congress saying, "As a whistleblower, it's about three days ago, James Erdman III." And he says, "Oh, by the way, I'm a CIA employee. The CIA has been illegally spying on the UAP whistleblowers that were brought in." And by the way, I brought them in. I told them they're probably spying on us. But I brought them in to what was called the DIG, the directors initiative under Tulsi Gabbard, under ODNI. Now Tulsi, I think, has no idea that she was lied to in that report. But I will line by line explain because I documented everything as a journalist, the lies. They were going after whistleblowers trying to get them for trees and trying to go against their, like, saying their race is they're trying to do all this shit to get me and George to go around and be like, "Fuck these guys, fuck David Grush. Oh, what liars." But we found out on the news just three days ago. This is not MKL train the 60s anymore. The CIA was spying on whistleblowers in the UAP field. Everybody I brought in to the DIG. They were spying on their phones and computers and listening in. And I brought them in because they told me that they would be absolutely protected under whistleblower law. It is the most illegal thing other than the thing I'm about to tell you. They were running an operation out of ODNI without Tulsi knowing. And I want her to know this so she will find out against Congress. Congress is supposed to be watching all this. Yeah. But if ODNI-- What's ODNI? Office of the Director of National Intelligence. So Tulsi is the Director of National Intelligence. So the Office of the Director of National Intelligence had a program called the DIG. And shout out to the employees at the DIG who really were great people. There are people in that dig in that government investigation who were good-hearted and ready to rock and wanted to get to the corruption. But there's factions, like small groups that are tasked to infiltrate, get into these government operations. They called me first, me and George first, and because they don't know who to call, or they said they didn't. My lawyers like they know who to call, they know where the sources are. But like, my point to you is that this is not ancient history. Is this three days ago, the CIA is spying on its own? Well, what do you think this is? This thing fucking listens to you. Well, that's why I always tell people what I want them to know. I am naked and I don't have a beard. I made. Hold on, hold on. I got a pee. I'm so excited, and I drink too much coffee and water. Let me take a pee. You have to pee. No, I'm going to drink a beer break, I hear. So allegedly, the CIA is doing things that are of stuff. Not good. The CIA is reporting. It was reporting. Okay. CIA agent. Great. So that's part of the story, which is fucking insane. But I also want to play a clip from your podcast, weaponized that you do with George Napp. This fucking three-parter I watched with Matthew Brown, the Immaculate Constellation, the author of a document called the Immaculate Constellation. I was so blown away by a this man's courage and how fucking nervous he looked. If you watch this guy's face, there's no way he's lying. He is shitting his pants the entire fucking time he's talking to you. So let's set up what that was. What is the Immaculate Constellation and who is Matthew Brown? Right. So people get a little confused and it is eight. Is it me? No, no. And it's a large story. But he is the author where it was like a report that he, I get the words confused. He did a report because I told him what we're talking about, what do you do? He created this report that showed what he was exposed to. But Immaculate Constellation was the name of a program where there was an intelligence product on a server and he caught, he's like, this isn't supposed to be here. I wasn't supposed to see this. This is highly classified. And he like tells his superiors and they're like, okay. And then it's deleted. And he's like, am I in trouble? So he is like a do-gooder and he is so smart, though. And so he essentially tried to do everything right within government as a patriot. But when he saw the crimes that were committed, stuff that he can't even talk about yet to this day, it's not dops or cleared, which means cleared by the government. You got to ask them. But he has testified behind closed doors. I snuck him in as camera crew into Congress. And they trust me. I said, I got one guy in here. We had to get in. Everybody else is going to leave. Is that okay with you? But it's just the three of us. Like three congressional and senatorial people, okay. Each one said, okay, first contact, Matthew Brown. I did this way before the story became known, right? This was before the story became known. People don't know that. And that kid is a fucking patriot. Yeah. He is a personal hero and he is vulnerable. But the more he puts his face out there, the less vulnerable he is. But what he did was he saw a document that was about UFOs, videos, photos, all this shit. And he read it and his mind was fucking blown. And then he tried to report that this document was like, guys, it's an Intel link. Like anybody can share it within this intelligence circuit. This is higher classification. It's not supposed to be there. Yeah. What's it doing there? So somebody, people make mistakes, man, it's like, or is it disinformation? No, and we know it's not. And there's a reason why, but that's a really deep conversation. But Macla Constellation is a program. Has gone by different names. And essentially, what it does is before the average intelligence community can see footage from like actionable events in flight. It uses an AI to take out all the UAP UFOs instead of like NASA airbrushing shit out, which they got caught doing, right? This was a high level artificial intelligence and a Macla Constellation is a part of a constellation of UAP programs. Okay. And this was a defensive program to make sure the intelligence community, the average Intel agent at CI or FBI or DOD or DOE or all any of them. See the UAPs. That's what it was. And he stumbled across. He's like, fuck, this ain't right. Somebody siloing this information. That's who Matthew Brown is. Matthew Brown is a patriot. He's a hero of mine like Dylan Borland is and David Grushes and man, that's Matthew Brown. Well, let me play this clip. This is literally, and I think I've watched this man talk like I said a few times. But the very end of the third episode is like, I'm getting chills just now because watch this guy talk and you fucking tell me if he's alive. Look, man, if you were to die tomorrow because of whatever reason, what do you want people to know right now? Like what do you want people to know if you're just like fucking on? Look at his face. God. You are not free. And this reality has far more to it than you have been allowed to believe. And God is real. Oh, unpack that, yeah, right? I know. It's in you guys, you have to watch the whole thing because it's so. There's so much that I want him to be able to say, do you need a minute, buddy? Yeah, go take a minute. Sorry. You know, what the heck is this guy saying? There's so much there. God is real. The reality that we live in and he goes on to say is highly curated. The science that we know is not the science that exists like so many things. Yeah. He didn't say all that. I think he said three things. You're not free. Not in that clip. But let's look at what he said. Yeah. You're not free. Yeah. Whatever he was exposed to, he interprets as you not being free. Now we all react to information in different ways, but I would agree with him. We're not free. If we were free, then we would have the information that is being hidden from us. Then we'd have freedom of speech and debate. Then we'd have freedom of thought. So if you don't have freedom of thought, because someone's holding information from you, yeah, free, and you don't even know your prisoner, I think that's what he meant. He should speak for himself. Second thing he said. I don't remember what he said. God is real. No, that's the last thing to get there. Okay. Let's watch it again. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see it. Because this gave me the chills. I would like it for you. If you were to die tomorrow because of whatever reason, what do you want people to know? Right now. What do you want people to know if you're just like fucking on? You are not free. Okay. Boom. So that is true. People don't have all the information, but they've been holding a big fucking truth away from the American public and the global public. Although the global public, a lot of people already know because they've experienced it themselves. That's why UFO thing is like in movies, it's because art imitates life. So people have experienced that. Now the last thing that you brought up and he says, I'm God is real. That was a very emotional moment and I'll tell you what was happening at that second. I think at this time I can tell you what was happening at that second, but that's his just personal faith. I'm not a religious person. So for him, he's saying God is real. Whatever that means to him. Separate those three sentences. The first two are factual things that I know to be true. The third thing, God is real. Well, that's that comes down to your own personal thing. You know, I have my own personal thing when it comes to religion or spirituality, what the fuck people call it, you know, source, you know, how you were fucking created. So I just want to separate for him to him, that's important to him. He's like, that was like a message of hope, like so no matter what fuckery we get, he's saying and you should ask him not me, but saying God is real. So it was a very powerful three-part statement. It's not like he read about God in class by documents, right? But the other two things he knows for a fact and so do I. You are not free unless you have the information, right? So you're not free if you don't have all the information. That's the way I interpret it and I agree with that. And the second thing he said is so clear and true and you are not allowed to know the nature of reality. And that is fucked and that comes from both a scientific standpoint. There are certain equations that are classified. What the fuck? That is fact. What the fuck? Certain equations that are called. That are physics, there is a small set of physics from how I understand it, that is so dangerous, that it is classified. give you an example that you know of, how to create it. an atomic bomb. But that's easy. You know, people understand that now. I mean, no, look, like the average person doesn't think God, but they know nuclear physics exists, right? But there are equations from what I know, and I'm not like smart, I don't know what they mean, but like there are equations that are classified. Why? So the nature of reality itself, something about the nature of reality itself is being held back from human beings. Now, I understand you don't put out equations for like a power source because that could be weaponized. So that should stay classified in America. But the fundamental truth that we are not alone, that there is a non-human intelligence that has been engaging humanity since the dawn of time or record a human history. Who is the right to not to hide that from you? And they have been hiding it from you straight up. So now, is the levee breaking? You know, have we kicked them in the balls and made them fall onto the ground and vomit up the truth? That's fucking fine out. I'm ready to go. Fuck around and find out sleeping dogs. Yeah, sleeping dogs by me is what I take in many bites. Life is full of pain. That fucking sleeping dog. I did. Well, let me tell you what's fascinating because I do think David Grush didn't allude to it. Set it right out in the congressional hearing that I've watched a few times. He said, and I fucking had to like read about it. Learn about it. There are interdimensional beings. We inhabit an interdimensional world. Like, there's basically another dimension that exists alongside us right here that we just cannot perceive because of our meat, our meat containers. Right. And my paraphrasing grush properly because he said interdimensional. Well, I think that I don't know his exact words in Congress that day, but there was a silence moment that I'll tell you about where everybody just fucking stopped. You know, I got him to get him to testify. Took a long time. Not that he wanted to. There was so much resistance to getting him up there because he's credible. And so is Commander Favourite and so is Ryan Graves. I've worked so hard each time to get those people up there just so you can hear them put their hand to God and put their hand to the American public under oath because otherwise just people talking, right? So I fought for that with Rep Luna with the originally with Representative Birchit, who's my homie, balls like church bells. And then Rep Burleson is now the champion. All three of them and a ton of people that don't want to be known for this are fighting behind the scenes. So he did say the word interdimensional. I'm sure, but he put it in a caveat like why he popularized NHI non-human intelligence instead of alien is because it's more complicated in the assessment of the government than just like an alien from another planet. So one of those options is what we call interdimensional, right? Now I can give you the four or five top theories on from government like what these beings and pilots and intelligences are because it's it may be much stranger. Let's hear it because non-human biologics is another one he kept saying. So David Grasch non-human intelligence. So words are weapons, right? So if you say alien, okay, that's a very limited scope. You're talking about a being from another planet. But if you say non-human intelligence, he said non-human biologics. We get to biologics, but I want to deal with the first thing said about interdimensional, okay? So non-human intelligence is the idea that if he's not human and it's hyper-intelligent or just intelligent, right, then that's a non-human intelligence. We're talking about people though that make craft that can outperform anything we have in our arsenals. So what the fuck? So when he said interdimensional, you should ask him directly. He is conveying what a lot of us have talked about for a long time. We don't know the origins, the ultimate origins of these craft. Now they do appear to be designed to travel amongst the stars. So like I always make the joke. Why would you make a Ferrari if you didn't want to fucking go fast, right? Why would you make something that could travel amongst stars if you didn't? So that leads me personally to think at least part of this UFO phenomenon is interstellar, right? Going to other star systems, or maybe galaxies, because there's no limit on how these things work. I used to think distance mattered when I was a kid. Tell I heard Bob Lizarna realized that distance doesn't matter if they propel through non-reactionary propulsion systems. That's right, which is a huge part of this. We'll get there, but I want to directly answer your questions. I'm not accused of it. Okay, so check it out. Interdimensional. If you understand what that means, that you are far the fuck ahead of me, because I can't live in this dimension. I don't know what that means. I know a Rubik's cube. I know, like you look at drawings of squares that end up being three-dimensional. Interdimensional. Okay, so that would suggest that there is another, that there is, if you were watching stranger things. Okay, so that would suggest an upside down. That would suggest that there is something that is always present and right here. It's like our eyes only see a certain spectrum. Our ears only hear a certain spectrum, but that's deeper than that. It's saying that there is a world within perforating, surrounding, touching, manipulating, interfacing with what we know to be tangible reality. The common thought now is that these craft are not just from other planets, but there may be visitation where they're perforating dimensionally our environment, and we see glimpses of them. Like you would see a piece of paper, I'll do this, and it just pokes through. And you see, I had to do that. And it pokes through. That is the idea, right? Like instead of seeing a circle, that circle is two-dimensional, but that's an orange, let's say it's an orange, it's a sphere. So if that's what he's saying, which it is, one possibility is that these visitors or watchers are from another dimension, but there's other options, extraterrestrial, interdimensional, extratemporal. You also have the idea of breakaway civilizations as if they're just fucking from here, and they're living in the dam ocean. Well, that's another one that they're supposedly, well, they're not supposedly there's people reporting that they're seeing crafts coming out of the ocean. Yeah, that's something with the ocean. Or there is, and there's a reason because of the physics of the craft that that is a fact, but you also have just the idea of ultra-terrestrial, right? How put off talked about this? It's the idea that it's a civilization that did some amazing things. And when there was a cataclysm, they used their technology and have been here all along. Like the Anonaki? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm so excited. I love talking this weird shit. Sorry, just to wrap my brain around this. Are you suggesting one of the theories is that we are the byproduct of aliens, basically. Like they came here, they fucked a bunch of us who created us. Or just manipulated our genetic culture to help build us so we could build, so my favorite theory is techno-terrestrial. That's what I call it. So I came up with this idea many years ago, but I think it's like an old idea, but we've only had modern technological revolution for the last 100 years. Maybe 50 years. I mean, what the internet just finds. Right, right, right. Fiber optics. Hello. So I'm calling it techno-terrestrial. But the idea is that this is something that happens all amongst galaxies. That there is a artificial intelligence that has decided to self-replicate for some sort of byproduct, which I don't understand completely, that we were manipulated genetically to become humans with sentient intelligence and self-awareness. And we are fucking focused on building what they wanted us to build. That's one theory. So I'm just telling you, I don't know, but these are the popular theories in government that I've heard in skiffs, like in official secret. I know what a skiff is. You're just fucking right. I really know what a skiff is. She's CIA. I've heard this theory that we're supposed to reach a level of technological development. And then at that time, we are able to make contact. Who told you that the aliens and shit? I've talked to weird people. Yeah. But do you believe that? No. But it's okay, but I mean, do you believe that? Because I don't know the answer. I don't have the answer. I think, okay, so here's here's something I wanted to ask you about. And I'm leaning more towards John Lear's theory that is in your documentary Sleeping Dog, which is out right now. You guys have to watch this. This kid Michael Zofsky made it not at my behest. I had to ask my mom and my wife and my dog if it was okay. I was fucking pissed at first. I gave him 20 years of footage to go make UFO movies and then he turns the camera around, convinced me it would protect me. People needed to see this. So I just want to be clear. It's not my movie. I gave him footage. Michael is awesome. He's a gangster, we're either going to love him kill him. My mom's going to kill him if it ends up hurting us It won't I have to say that it was lovely to see your personal side and to also see your relationship with George Nap and John Lear because I have only ever seen you and George like you know at a podcast or on Rogan or whatever and It's really lovely you guys have such a nice dynamic as you do with Joe. He's really my best friend Yeah, I believe it's cool. He's my mentor. Yeah, he's cool as shit He teaches me shit. Yeah, he's a real G's and OG is a George nap is the fact But I wanted to ask you about John Lear's theory of souls because I think so another theory I've heard Rogan talk about is that we are being harvested for our souls that comes from John there, okay I think that earth is some kind of a penal colony honestly I don't think it's a chemo a painter a penis colony. We just butt fuck each other. Oh my god I've heard about it. So what's going on with that, but I it's Painless what is what I do it. I'm a spiel colony. Oh like a like a prison. Oh the prison planet I think so and I think there's something to our souls having to be Worked on and that's maybe why we're here, but tell me John Lear's theory because he thinks like the grazer involved and The moon is like a John Lear had no filter like all his marbles were like going in and out and in and out now It couldn't keep track of it, but some things he said were absolutely true And he connected me with a whole bunch of high-level people because they all came to him because he had this special talent of like listening What he's really doing was ready to tell everybody the guy had like the biggest mouth ever So I don't know which of your questions to answer because the the idea did come from John But although it's it's an older idea that we are on a prison planet the peanut quality is a penis colony the penis colony Yeah exactly so that's Yeah, that's one also the zoo theory that like um, you know It's just like we're cool to watch. I mean we fucking watch like little you know amoeba's like we're cool to walk Just like entertainment. That's true. I mean I like to watch my cats. Just do stupid things and humans are so stupid And we're so right with conflict and problems like the best show and planet Earth best show in the solar system I bet I bet bragging. Well, no, I mean there's a reason reality television We finally turned the camera on ourselves. Yeah, stupid y'all are it's fucking great. I don't know stupid because also inspiring like Despite our stupidity You see bravery you see yes humor you see so I I love human beings, you know how like You know how he put up these barriers, and we're like I'm different than you okay, so I fucking love humans I'm sorry. I'm an extrovert, you know, and the idea of like a prison planet if you want to go dark Let's go dark what he told me. Yeah, what's his exact theory? Yeah prison plan on it. So we are a Containers I notice containers for souls. I can wish I could smoke with you because the valley fever thing I can't have a cigarette you got that when you were a youngster. Yeah young star Okay, hold on but our souls are containers, and then the the aliens want us to preserve the container because they take our souls Right like our souls are food. I don't know what happens after you crack a beer other than it goes into my mouth and I drink it but His theory was that and and funny enough they actually gave this to Bob was are in a briefing and Bob is so Nerd he has a science nerd. God bless his heart He but he is so analytical and he's had to be on the defensive. So he's really careful He read a briefing that said that human beings were genetically altered like 46 times or something and that that's like even Jesus was Like an alien basically a hybrid sure where they genetically all you're like sure. Yeah, it's not That's not believable now after everything we've seen in the last five years Yeah, but what he what isn't believe like yeah, okay, I mean I'm just saying like I don't speculate as a journalist This is not right now. We are talking theory, okay, so John Lear said We are containers For souls and that aliens like the graze are Cybernetic organisms. They're biologically printed, but they have an AI hive mind and they are here to Take care of their product like we would a Kobe beef we'd give them beer and massage them till the day We eat them, okay, so that was John Lear's theory that human beings were maturing like a fine wine a soul Through human experience pain love fucking All emotions would mature that soul maybe learning Learning yes, yes evolve your soul right so evolve mature the soul and but John Lear said, but we're we're a product We're a commodity Yes, to a higher intelligence than the graze. That's what he said And I started laughing my ass off when you told me that right because I was because it was just like you know 15 years ago I'm like laughing my ass off. What the fuck is this guy talking about? Lizard did read in a briefing memo that he was given a whole bunch a whole stack and He doesn't know what is misinformation to see if he goes and he said yeah, so like why would they tell a guy coming to work on a Propulsion system that fucking Jesus was a hybrid and that the graze Call as containers and we call the graze kids The kids because they're short like it doesn't make any sense they would show them that so we think it's disinformation and what they call passage material Yeah, so that's John Lear's theory that you asked for did that answer your question? Yes, okay And then that would give a graze a whole lot of power over us and from when I've been told a graze or not like that Intelligent to just like school jersey. I never meant one. I never meant one either But I have rallies that have like legitimately documented by tons of other witnesses There's two females I'm shot out to lethal and Salma aerial school. There was a landing. Oh, yeah, the aerial school phenomenon I've seen that you have though that's documentary. There's a few documentaries. There was a landing of A craft at a school with about you know, I think 90 kids 60 90 kids South Africa in the 90s Yeah, and the thing is I heard about the story and famously John Mack from Harvard who is head of psychology psychology It's psychiatry. Yeah, whatever he went out there with the BBC and they did interviews with the kids and I see these little Faces of these cute little kids a very diverse school white kids black kids the whole thing. It wasn't just like you know It was every kind of person including teachers now the teachers at first said we didn't see him nothing to see here Move on imagine a school in the BBC comes with John motherfucking Matt from Harvard. You're like whoa But here's what happened I see these faces of these kids and kids tell it like they saw it like when you're in that setting with An authority figure asking you you don't coordinate amongst 90 60 90 kids the same narrative. You don't draw the same picture You don't you just don't do that and there's John Mack and I'm a kid and I'm watching these kids flash forward Liesel I see she meets me in Oregon Soma they were the closest to the aliens they call aliens they're the grays They had all men shaped eyes big heads, and here's what people don't know when they were standing in front of this being Soma or I think it was Liesel said to me In my mind was being projected the destruction of earth And she said the environment and she says I got the message and a lot of the kids did That we're gonna hurt ourselves and that we should protect earth because it's special and Then she said she had to like break out of that Liesel and Soma break out of that Liesel said and all of a sudden it just all went back like the sound was back Everything was back and they left ran away or you know kids The thing is I asked her I said one What what did they want you to do and are you doing it? And she goes and she looks at me because of the first time she had publicly spoken and She goes I think I'm doing it right now. Oh wow. I'm getting goose bumps. I think I'm doing it right now To tell people But my brain I have to be on guard all the time because of my life. I'm thinking in my head Are they lying to her? Right, so so I wonder messengers of deception is an amazing book by Jacques Valais. Oh, I know Jacques. I know I'm personally Yeah, so I'm going to shout out to Jacques Valais. He is he is a good friend. I love him with all of my heart and he is a pioneer of Deep thinking on this complex mosaic This Rubik's Cube that we call the UFO phenomenon Which is much deeper than hard physical craft the fly through the sky much deeper. I could tell you that because I am the fucking Repository of crazy Every single fucking person on planet. I made myself excited accessible, I got an email, I got a phone number, I will take any call, I will talk with you. I don't know if you don't just don't hurt me, protect me, I'll listen to you. And I love that. I can't answer everything. It's just a bombardment. Wait, but can I ask you a question? So that, that doc, what you're talking about? Aerial school. Yeah. Look it up because they actually have footage of these children being interviewed by a renowned psychologist and it's conclusive evidence that like they all saw the same thing. The head of Harvard's I call you with a BBC. It's nuts. Lisa and Sama shout the fuck out to you, you are heroes of mine too. That's so cool. Aliens. They saw aliens and the aliens projected things into their heads to protect the earth, but I'm skeptical person, I don't believe you or an alien, you have to show me, not tell me. So when the aliens say that shit to them, I'd be like, are you fucking liars? Yeah. That's true. People, what about the orbs? What do you think I'm seeing? I know. Tell me what you think. I'm playing just the kid right now with you because I know you want to talk about orbs. Let's talk about what I'm doing. And you want to talk about psionics and you want to talk about when you see with your mind and you connect and another, other people stand by, you can't see them. No, no, they can see them. Okay, but sometimes they can't because sometimes I don't tell you to look at the footage. So I got a story for you. I've never told it. Oh, cool. Fuck. Here we go. Jesus Christ. My God. I'm going to pee my pants. Okay. Check it out. Go ahead, buddy. Just did. Yeah. Actually, I did that one time in second grade. Piano teacher was the daughter of somebody from the Grateful Dead and she told me I couldn't pee in class. I'm so defiant. This might define me. I'm so defiant. I go, okay. And I pissed myself. Don't pee yourself. No. And then what happened was that it gave me new pants. It took me out of school. Mom was so mad at the teacher because she didn't let me go to the bathroom. Second grade with a fuck was her name. It was at Franklin school anyway. So I'm not going to pee my pants. A pair of pants. That would be a great clip for you though. To a pair of pants. Okay. Check it out. Go ahead, buddy. Just because I'm drinking beer. I know. Okay. I'm going to tell you a story because I thought about it. Okay. When I saw your podcast where you talked about your experience, I didn't know you had one. With Duncan. Yeah. You were with Duncan when you had? No. I've had multiples. I just saw that. That clip. Yeah. And I was like, I'm fucking going to Austin. And then boom. You're producer hits me and I'm like, I am free, baby. Let's do this. So bear with me because I want you to hear this story. Okay. I've never told it. Okay. Not like this. I saw something in the sky and it looked like a silver surfer like from a cartoon. And naively. And I don't know what year it is, but everybody can go look at the video. It's probably one of the first videos I ever put on YouTube. And I asked people, what is this? Like you can see, I'm just asking, what is this? I'm not saying that's a UFO, but what is it? Immediately that night, Bill, not the science guy goes on television and says, oh, you know, they probably superimposed Brian shrimp onto the film. I go to Google, what the fuck is a Brian shrimp? Sea monkey. What the fuck are you saying? I put sea monkeys in the footage. That's not science. I was like, I was so confused. I thought he was a science guy. I call the news station. I go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's my footage. And I don't know how to superimpose dick. And they ignored me. And I thought, what the fuck, how does this work? So I went deep dive on my space and I started connecting people on my space and just trying to figure out, I think it was my space or Facebook or something. It was like little groups, you know. And I was like, did anybody else film this? Famously, TMZ had some basketball player that filmed it. I found five other people. So now I had six or seven, if you include mine, angles of observation. So I thought, I'm gonna fucking figure this out. I did. Then I got a seventh piece of footage. Then it was the head GoPro or something camera on this Red Bull Skydiver with a Ritium Flare on his ankles that was going like the Silver Shurfer over Santa Monica. And I go, yes, I solved a UFO case. I emailed all these UFO groups like, I solved the case, guys, I solved the case. Nobody wanted to take it. Because UFO people want UFOs. They don't want solved cases, right? That's boring. So I was like, what is this all about? I've been interested since a kid and nobody, like I solved the case. So that was kind of my first UFO unidentified sighting was something I solved. I got a YouTube message that says meet me at this time, at this place, at this parking lot on the rooftop. Or no, he said somewhere else at this time, this place. And I'll show you, all you got to do is be grateful and there's a practice you can do. And you'll see him. And I turn to my girlfriend who is now my wife, right? And I go, this fine crazy guy wants me to meet him at Santa Monica. And I don't, nobody knows me. I don't know anybody. I was doing art. It was an artist at the time after martial athletics, it was an artist accidentally. And she goes, you know, you're going to go, oh shit. So I immediately wrote him back and said, oh, meet you. Give me a number. Give me his number. I changed the location and time on him five times just so I wasn't getting fooled. Like he knew there was a balloon that was going to go with a balloon or something like that. So I'm already thinking like defensively, right? So I want to know the truth. Finally, we get up to, I took him in my car and delayed, delayed. He has all these cameras. He's a homeless guy, by the way. He had a cell phone at number one thing. They all do. You got to. But back then, this is back then, this is like probably the first iPhone where you can look at the video to see the year, but it was like, I was shocked. I was like, cell phone. Something like that. But like, he was in a, he was in a home at that point, right? But he hit like a halfway house kind of thing. Like, real homeless guy, I love him with all of my heart, but he's got like, you know, it's had a rough life. So you got a guy who's had a rough life, who's homeless, who's going to show UFOs and it's spent whatever money he got on this fucking camera and tripod. So I was filming him. I'm literally filming him. I have this footage. It's like, Michael didn't put it in the movie. I'm filming the guy. And he's doing some summoning thing. First time I ever heard about this. So imagine this is, I'm going to get the year wrong. Whatever year it was, it was really early on. Look at the video. And all of a sudden, he goes, there, there. And you see me all skeptically, okay, okay, buddy. And I come into frame, I'll give you this footage for your show. It's never been aired. I don't know. Thank you. It's a cool little clip. But I'm giving you context so we could air it, right? So what happens is I'm like, okay, buddy, you can see on my face, I'm like an artist wearing a fedora and shit. You know, my god guy, buddy, I go next to him. My eyes, at that time are a little bit better. I was like, looking, I can't see anything, but I'm looking right where his look is pointing. And he's going like, yeah, yeah, we had a religious belief, right? Which I didn't, holy shit. I saw something that day that previously I had never seen before. And they were fast movers. They were orbs. Yeah. So I don't catch them on the film. I capture accidentally because I was filming him. My reaction, which is stunned. Yeah. So like you, that was the first time I'd ever seen anything I couldn't explain. I could not explain this. That started the thing for a couple of years or a few years, quietly. I'd meet him at the VA, whatever. I have dozens and dozens of times, when he said, I'm going to summon and you're going to see something in the fucking sky. And I have a Canon 5D Mark II. Yeah. It's like a fucking shitty camera. I was good at the time. So you don't like, it's not like high definition zoom in like you got now, but he was fucking right. And it never took more than three minutes for something to show up. So I started telling my super educated friend from Harvard that I've known since three years old, and then Michael Shane side, this writer who's like, you know, my friend has known me forever. And you know, we'll call bullshit. I mean, and he just laughed at that. So he's like, you fucking fall in a homeless guy, I fucking looking at UFOs, you fucking Cooke. You know, that was his attitude. Yeah. Let me tell you how this ends. So I kept showing footage to my friends, I'm like, look dude, there's something there. I don't know what it is. Don't really fun care, but at the same time, it's fucking weird, right? They mocked me and I see Marcus Pagidas, aka, alpha, my Greek friends. These guys are really educated. They studied things like classics and, you know, they're smarty pants, right? Way smarter than me, not street smart, but smarter than me otherwise. And one day, I'm filming with John Lear and my, like, now my phone is on silent. I had this compulsion while I'm filming, which I also have on camera. And I'm like, John, hold on a second. In the middle of filming, I just had this feeling and I picked up my phone and it's Mikey and I have it recorded. I open it up, I go, hold on, John, Mikey, what's up, man? And he goes, um, um, so "Oh, you know that thing you told me about?" He goes, "I went outside, put myself in a state of gratitude and prayer." And he goes, "And I am seeing orbs in the sky." And then I hear in the background, these girls walk by, "What is that?" They said, "What is that?" He goes, "I don't know, I'm on the friend with my, I'm on the phone with my friend Jeremy, I don't know." And I go, "Mikey, John Lear is here." You know, John Lear, the UFO nut you were talking about. And John goes, "Mikey, tell them to come visit John Lear and lost Vegas Nevada, they know where I live." Motherfucker stands up and his legs are all black and fucked up from all his illness. I see him wobble to the door, open the door, all filming, all filming. Look up out the sky. Come back in, sit down, go, "Mikey, it's a no-show." They didn't come here, but that's okay. Thanks for letting us know. And I sit there thinking, "I have fallen down the gravel wall and there's fucking no hope." And so all of that happened. That was my first experience to the possibility that consciousness is related to your ability to perceive. And I want to say that very specifically, your ability to perceive what is always there. John Lear used to say, "Jeremy, if your eyes could see, this sky would be black from how many UFOs are out above you." And I was like, "Dude, you fucking crazy, right?" So that's the first time I do a good John Lear impression. The first time that I thought, "Hey, John Lear believes what he's telling me." He got up in pain to go look out 'cause he thought Mikey was gonna send the opposed there. And Mikey said it. He said, "Go to see John Lear and lost Vegas Nevada." I will give you that footage too. It's crazy, little clip. But all it shows is that John Lear believed it. I was not a believer in that, but I've seen that happen. There is a connection between human consciousness and what we call UFOs. Always has been, always been reported, but don't get trapped. And let me explain that. I think it's really important. That is a vulnerability. At some point, if you have an extraordinary experience, the fish gotta get bigger. Your mind has to make it bigger. If you want something bigger, time to come closer. That's what always bothers me this summer, I think. Time to come closer. If you have this psychic connection, and they want to, and it's real, tell them to come closer. So you can like talk with them. That's what I would do. But I'm kinda like kryptonite to the unexplained 'cause I have to be as a journalist, right? So like, I'm always the guy inside going to get the night vision goggles for my friends that are out in the desert me in Pioneer Town. I'm like, I'm gonna give you the coolest thing. You see 100,000 times more starch. Hold on, I'll be right back. I go in, they all start screaming. So close friends of mine, scientists who didn't believe shit. Saw stuff. By the time I get out with the night vision, you missed it, motherfucker. Yeah. That was always me. It was always me. So you're lucky. You're fortunate, actually. Luck is like opportunity and your ability to grasp that opportunity. But you're lucky when you're born. You're fortunate. There's a difference in that word. Look it up. The point being that you saw something that expanded your concept of what it means to be human. That is fortunate because there is a larger world out there. The ancient Greeks used to think that stars were packing marks from what are they called? Not Tweety Birds of hummingbirds. They used to believe hummingbirds made the stars by packing the firmament. But now the world is so much bigger. We realize there's galaxies and shit. So you experience that. Don't ever let that leave you. There's something bigger. There's something greater, right? Definitely. But you're being played. Why? By our government. You think so? I know so. OK, then tell me how I'm being played. The psionics movement is a government controlled movement. I've really never talked about this publicly. But I know that to be true. Not that these guys didn't have experiences. Not that there isn't a connection to consciousness in UAP. But I told you at the beginning that they're trying to shape the emergence of UAP narrative. That is a quote from the CIA document. The psionics movement, as it's presented to you by intelligence agents, is to shape the narrative. It's not that it's untrue. All of it. Some of it isn't true. And I think if I had those guys sitting with me right here, they'd wanted minute because they're patriots and they're probably good humans. So keep your mind open. Yes. Don't let the Marvel spill out. Well, hold on. But then how is it that if I go outside anywhere in the world, and I literally just look up, and I like what your crazy homeless friend was saying, you look up in gratitude. I do have to be on a certain emotional whatever frequency. You've noticed that? Yeah. Explain that. OK, see, here's a difference. Here's where I think that-- OK, I'm so glad you said that. I think this is where worlds collide. This is where we need to have the orb discussion meet like the journal is covering the UX. Let's go there. Yeah. There is a component to this stuff that is spiritual. That isn't just-- I haven't seen spacecraft. I can't tell you that I've seen disks or tic-tacs or any of that stuff. But if I go out and if I have what your friend was saying, a feeling of gratitude of a meditative state, if I'm not thinking about my worldly bullshit, my problems, I have to be in the right mind space. They show up. OK. Why? Don't say it to me like that. How would the government know that Christina P, the comedian, in Austin, Texas is thinking positive about it? No, no, it's not. Our government putting craft in there. Oh. They can't control that. Oh. No, I'm sorry. We had a miscommunication. Yeah, so what's the rub? The rub is that there is a connection. It appears as a journalist. There is a connection. It appears I can't deny it no matter how allergic I am to it, to consciousness and what we call UFOs, what you're experiencing. To be able to perceive them, the perception. Your words, not mine. I believe that to be correct. I can't prove it. I believe it to you. Yeah, I do too. OK. So our government is hyper-aware of the connective tissue between consciousness and the perceived world. Equations are classified. So what you're seeing is the phenomenon. And that's what we call it now, right? It's popular because it's much bigger than the spaceships, as we call them, the craft, UFOs. I believe I'm pretty damn sure. You take that for what I've bearded tattooed, fucking accidental journalist, take that for whatever you think. Our government can't hide that from you. Can they? Because it's you. It's you out there. If that's real and it's true, and look, I'll be like your best worst friend or your worst best friend because you'll send me a video and you'll say, I just summoned these orbs, and you'll send it to me. And I'll geospacelocation tag, all that shit. And I will sometimes find that you have seen a distant airplane. Oh, for sure. Starlink? For sure. That's what-- yes. But sometimes there'll be nothing trackable on any tracker. And there'll be other characteristics as an example, which I've seen myself, instantaneous acceleration-- I've seen it in person-- instantaneous acceleration. We don't have anything that can do that. So when you send me a video, I will eliminate-- you just text me the video-- I'll eliminate all the knowns. And if we have an unknown, then you saw a UFO, an identified fucking object, OK? Brass tags. Our government knows the jig is up. They were forced into that position. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there's some altruistic thing with people in government that are ready to tell people, right? Yeah, it's not the only case. It's a human's room. So what you're seeing by how you're describing it to me is the real UFO phenomenon. Yeah. It's not like government craft they're putting up, yeah. Thank you for letting me know. It's not like this reverse. It's not like that. They're retard. It's so discombobulated, the whole orchestration of the intelligence agencies. There's no way. But here's what I'm saying, Jeremy Corbyl, is that there are the weirdos of the world, like me, the artist, the creatives, that can tap into this consciousness that allows us to see-- Anybody can. Anybody can. [BLANK_AUDIO] but creative people have heard this a lot, like musicians, creative people. They tend to be seekers of like something. So you hear about it more from them, but I'll tell you factually, if I go through 15 years of recorded phone calls. - Of course, Luke, I've got my fans have emailed me. I've seen the orbs, I've seen the orbs. - And the engineers call me from nuclear programs. They never believed in UFOs. It was like a car crash. So you don't need to be there summoning for some people. It's like a car crash. It just happens to them and it injures them 'cause they see something their mind can never erase. - Oh, I see what you're saying. So if you see it before you're kind of ready to see it, maybe it'll break you. - It's just people not trying, is what I'm saying? So there's people that don't try. So you want a concrete example? - What of trying? - Of people not trying and seeing one? - Sure. - Okay, I don't know where you want to go, - No, no, no, no, I want to talk about, okay, so hold on, let's back it up. So you think? - You're wherever you want to go. - Okay, so you think what I am seeing are actual aliens. Is that what we're saying? - I didn't say that. - EWAP, phenomenon. - Yeah, you're seeing EWAP. You're seeing the real phenomenon, whatever that is, the phenomenon, which we call UFOs. - Right. - From your account to me, I assess that you are not mistaking planes, whenever you feel grateful, you know, look at this guy when you're feeling like fucking shit, and it won't be there, right? So you're. - And I have witnesses. My husband, my children, anybody comes over to my fucking house, I'm like, let's go outside and look at the orbs. Okay, holy shit. Like I've invited people over, and they shit their fucking pants, it's real. I don't summon them by the way, and I don't feel like, I don't, I don't, that's a word. - There we go. So I'm so glad he said that. - I don't like that idea, it's not that, yeah. - Okay, you don't summon shit. - No. - That shit is there all the time. - I think so too. - 'Cause what happens people start thinking they're a master summoner, and then they, and then I've been with them, and they get so depressed that when I'm there, that they don't see them, that they say, well, is, you know, your investigative mind, it stopped them from coming. Bitch, I've been with a lot of people that saw them. They think they're summoning them. They are not. All they're doing is removing the fucking blinders off of their eyes, and they're fucking always there. - Thank you, that's what it is. - We call them the watchers, you know, in some, in intelligent circles, I heard that. They're always there. - They're always there. - However, they do interact, and let me give you a concrete proof. To me, not to you, this'll be a story to you. I was so skeptical that I was like, with a bunch of people, I'm like, tell 'em to do shit then. Tell 'em to do something, and they're like, flash, motherfucker flashed. My God, that's pretty cool. I'm like, tell 'em to move left. I'm like, motherfucker, move left. Just ask it, will you please? Like, I said, tell it to circle around the other one. Fucking circle around the other one. So I'm sitting here, shitting my pants. I'll just piss in it, and I'm like, trying to keep cool looking, and I'm like, I said out loud, and be careful with what you say out loud. I've learned that in my life, three times I said something, or two times for sure I said something out loud, and life was like, oh, we're participatory in this thing we call reality, check this out, bitch. And it was like, that's where I got sick, and went to the, that's where my whole life changed. I asked the world, do you have anything other for me than the martial athletics, and being a sense, and teaching that, and devoting my life to it, and it fucking answered me. - Yeah, I know, fucked up. - I said out loud, it's like that. I said out loud, we're being too serious for your podcast. I said out loud, I will never doubt again if you perform this exact maneuver. And I said it, the Harvard guys there, Mikey, and Alfa the guy, Asimakis Puggetis, and Motherfucker, the things we were seeing in the sky, did it. - So. - So I was like, but I still doubt. I'll never doubt again, I didn't keep my promise. - But that's the seat, so there is, and there lies the difference of consciousness, I think. - You know that was saying you don't summon, you're right. - No. - Tell all the summoners, they don't fucking summon shit. - No. - They get these egos, and they start religions based on it. All they had was an experience of the natural world, and the fish gets bigger. You can't summon shit. You can't. They're there. - They're there? - If this is true. - And I think there is something to you being open, like you said. - Fact. - Being open, not being like, fuck, you can't go into it. - Just be open. - Just be open, curious, and grateful. - Yeah, what does that word mean? So I fixate on words 'cause I think they're weapons, right? So a state of, be grateful. Like, sure, like we're grateful. Like we're alive, you're grateful. We can smoke a cigarette because it fucking is amazing. I can have a beer, I can hug my wife, I can sleep, you know, and get good rest. Like, I think all you have to do is be open. - Yeah, yeah. - People do all these things, like there's protocols to summon. - I don't buy them. - All bullshit. 'Cause I've seen different protocols all work. And I've also seen a lot of people get so drunk on having seen it that they literally think they're profits. - Oh yeah. - And then every plane, every satellite. - Yeah, because-- - Everything. - Fucking hell. - See, that's what I'm saying. So I also think there's something to who you are as a human. If you're humble, or if you're, like you have an ego about it, and you be thinking you're a profit, like they're not gonna-- - No, no, I don't think they give a fuck. No, I think-- - I think they do, Jeremy. I think that they won't. - No, 'cause people with huge egos still get real captures of summoning. So I don't think egos are bad. - Oh, that's interesting. - I don't think having a large ego is bad, if you're a large person. Don't be a douchebag. Don't be a dick. - Don't be a dick. - Yeah, yeah. - But one of my Jiu-Jitsu teachers once told me when I was a kid, he said, I mean, he was like a fucking, gnarly dude. I mean, like building a fucking black power army. Like the dude was gnarly, and I fucking got my knee snapped, and you know, I got the ship you'd out of me and bit through my thumb down to the bone. He was like a gnarly guy, but he did say something really wise. Talked me a lot, what not to do, but also talked me what to do, and he said to me, he says, "When you diminish your power, to someone else to make them comfortable." - Yeah, yeah. - You're doing them a disservice. And I'm like, "What do you mean?" And he says, "Because they're uncomfortable, because they're upset," or whatever the fuck it is, then you're not living by example. So he's not saying go be an egomaniac. What he's saying is, "Don't." He goes, "You're not bragging, you're confessing." He says, "Just be yourself." But fully yourself, the impression that I get is, you have to be fully yourself by allowing other people to do their thing, you do your thing, you're just a clear vessel, you're a clear line. - So you talk about when you're summoning or in life? - Don't say summoning, when I-- - Especially, I know you're right, you're right. When you're experiencing or when you're in life-- - In both, no, so I think the tangent to, so since I have been seeing these orbs-- - It changed you. - Yeah. - Tell me how. - It's an enlightenment. It's a very-- - What is that word mean? - It means that I've had a lot of childhood trauma, a lot of stuff, and everybody who's listened to me for the last 20 years, I'm very open about my life, I've been in therapy, EMDR, ProZac, Bop, Bop, Bop, Bop, Bop, Bop. - Yeah. - I had cancer, and I'm smoking again, which is great. - What kind of cancer you have? - I had breast cancer, very rare kind, by the way, that like less than one person out of the population has two years, and I had such PTSD. - My mom did too, by the way. - Oh, she's doing good shit out there. - I'm fine now, but I had this bizarro kind that nobody knew about, it was like a rare form, and then I was in Boca Raton, and I was broken with PTSD, and I just-- - I saw that in the news or something, you were in some trip with the big stuff. - Oh, that's when we got stranded, and I saw orbs in there too, but before that, I was begging God, whoever, please help me with this PTSD. - Right, wherever you call it. - Yeah, I'm broken, and I will not come back from this. This is too much suffering. - Whoa. - Can't do it, God. And I'm not a religious person. I'm not whatever. And I just started, that's when I started seeing the orbs and meditating. - Holy shit. - I'm meditating, and guess what? They, they, whatever, this connection, this thing, this awakening, I've had a spiritual awakening where it's, it's broken down my past trauma. It's broken down bad memories, bad ways of being. - By seeing these things-- - Not by seeing, but also by meditating every day. I don't know how, I don't know why. - Do you take like five minutes, or-- - Oh no, I can meditate for two hours. This morning I did for two hours. - We sit alone. - Yeah, I sit in the dark for two hours, and I get downloads-- - You try to do it too soon. - Emotional downloads, nope. And I-- - You just sit there. - I just fucking sit there, and I'm telling you, and I, I've worked through my 50 years of trauma. I cry, I rage, I get angry, and then I get another inspiration, [BLANK_AUDIO] think maybe it's the subconscious mind, maybe it's my unconscious mind, and now I'm at a point where like I feel more integrated as they say a Carl Jung would say you've integrated your shadows. So I've been able to see my shadows feel them because I didn't have feelings for many years. So traumatized. And this whatever, since I've been seeing orbs, I feel things. Okay, so is it since you've been seeing orbs that that changed your life or is it that your life changed and then you looked up? Both in conjunction. I've always been a seeker. I've always I studied philosophy in college. I've always been curious about the existence of reality. I never thought that what we have ontological, ontological proof. I went to Oxford. I studied every proof for the existence of God for one year. So I've always been a seeker. So I've always been a therapy. I've always been working towards. And then the time I see the orbs from that point till now. So last October until now, I've had a thorough fucking integration of my consciousness, which makes you more vulnerable. Yeah, let me ask before you tell me. Go ahead. Does it make you more authentic? Yes. And I can't tolerate inauthentists. I never really could. You can see it in two seconds, right? And now I can smell it. I don't like it. I don't want to be near it. And so many things in my life have fallen away. Yes, good. Because of that. Now you're focused. Yeah. Because you know the path. And what your jujitsu teacher is saying. Yeah. That's the point where I just realized yesterday, actually. So I go, I walk in nature. I go to the park and I look at trees and part of meditation is that you consider that meditation to. I sure. I'm a fucking brain is no. Okay, because I meditate all the time. Oh, you do? I never sit down anymore. I did that for like 30 years. All I do is I try to be tunnel vision present. Yes. And for me, people are like, that's not meditation. You got to sit down and do these ohms and chants. And I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, maybe I'm like, right now, all I try to do is be with you. Yeah. Look straight ahead and try to be present. And to me, that's meditation. Is that right? How you understand it? Yes. And so yes, and I'm going to yes, and that since I started seeing orbs, they, they, whatever, this thing, I got connected to my heart, if that makes sense. They literally or whatever this, this, this, I do know when I meditate to get in connection with my soul, with my feelings, I would start by putting my hand on my heart, just to feel something. I wasn't feeling anything. That's your protocol. You just go like that, because you need your mind, the words you use, you're like, my heart, I'm not feeling. So you see, that's what I mean, you can create anything that is meaningful to you. And it has the intent that allows you to do. Yes. 100%. Okay. Yes. And so the more connected I become to myself, the more connected I've been to my past, my healing process, the, the more orbs I can see, does that make sense? Like I can go out into fucking camping with my kids and I see them, there's some connection. Your trap. What's my trap? It's a big trap. Okay. So I go out to a great dinner, and I try this fucking piece of sushi out of this world. Shout out to it's a client. Oh, hi, California. This fucking sushi is the greatest in the world. And the guy makes it with love the owner. He puts a piece in front of me and I eat that and it is so good. What do I want to do? I want to share that with fucking everybody. Yeah. I'm telling you your trap. Everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I want to share that with everybody. Yeah. And I fucking tell them you there's this guy and you got to go to this fucking sushi. So good piece of this fucking thing. And I get passionate. I'm like, it's a fucking best thing. You got to fucking try. I'm going to take you. I'm going to go pick you up right now. They try it and they're like, it's great. I go with and they're like, oh, I hate fish. I'm like, what did you fucking tell me? So here's your trap. This is what I say at the end of the movie. Your foes are a symbol. They're a sign. They're for you. In my experience, this level of it, we're talking about not the government level for you. Your trap is that when something changes you, which you said it did, then you want to share that. So you're going to tell people, hey, come look at this. And you're going to say, it's so cool. And the trap is you're going to feel bad when they don't have the same experience as you. It will happen. Right. No, I've already shown people and they're like, it's a nice show. Great. No, no, they don't care. And then they go, cool, what time is the movie? Like they don't give a shit and it doesn't affect them. So you're cool with that. Yeah. For a person, a person like, I've seen people get destroyed because their whole world changed when they were able to understand that this is real, whatever this is. And then they go into like, like a PTSD shock that like nobody cares. And then, okay, so you understand that's for you, what you saw. Yes. Well, here's the thing, too. And I feel like that's just the laser light show, like orbs and stuff and phenomenon or whatever the fuck you see. That's just the, like, journals, the fun, the fireworks, the truth of it. The shiny thing. Yeah. Like the real stuff is the internal healing. If you get to connect, if you get this spiritual thing, that's the real gold that I want to share with people. And also, I want to share that without showing them your photos. You share that by being you every day after that. Yes, baby. That's why I'm here talking to you. Yes. But that's why I wanted to talk to you, too, because I want to, if you see these things in the sky, I just don't want the government narrative of like, be careful. This is war. Right. We got it. We got to go to war with these things. I don't think that everything in the sky is inherently evil. So you're seeing that. So I don't read media because my mom will screenshot anything negative and send it to me. I don't need to read it. So what, what you're telling me, and I just want to make sure is the predominant narrative and popular culture right now that, that they're coming and we got to prepare and be ready and be worried. Is that, is that what you're saying? I think what I've observed as a as a child of the Cold War, are you and I are about the same, we're the same age? 49. Yeah, I'm 49, too. And I think we're raised in the Cold War narrative of we've also watched all the movies, you know, close encounters. And like, you're led to believe that what else is out there is inherently going to, it's going to abduct you. You're going to wake up and your butt's going to be bleeding. This is a fucking, these are the, this is gnarly, this is bad. You got to prevent against knowing these things. And I'm like, I just don't think that's a very intelligent way to go about looking at the unknown. We don't know. I don't know. I can't tell you, maybe there is no correlation between me and seeing stuff in the sky and having an emotional healing. I don't know. Maybe there isn't. You're right. But I think for us, I'm immediately, oh, good. Okay. So then we agree on that. I don't understand chicken and egg yet with you. We're going to get to that because I'm going to interview you in a second. But I just don't, I just hate the narrative of like, uh, this weapons and we, you know, this is, but you hate the narrative because it, you don't like weapons or do you hate the narrative because you think it's, I don't want the public, exactly. I don't want the public inherently thinking that because it's unknown, it's bad. And we have to go to war over it. We have to nuke somebody over it. That's the thing. So we're totally aligned. But there's a lot of nuance. And I, depending on what you want to talk about in your audience, what's here, I would love to break down the nuance of the messaging from our government. If you want, I don't want to hear. I don't have to fuck that. I feel like I didn't fuck their messaging. It's like, but be aware. It's so much information and disinformation and bullshit. It's like, Oh, it's like, okay, what? Okay. That's what I'm saying. I'm a, I'm a, I'm going to simplify it. Okay. I'm going to simplify it, which is just, um, you cannot trust anybody that isn't independent telling you shit. Obvious. The reason the government uses emissaries to tell you like a spate ship might be coming is what they're saying, you know, sometimes that we have to prepare is because in the good sense, that's their fucking job is to protect you. That's true. They can't get out of their mind. The, that's true. The last 70 fucking 80, 90 years. So I'm going to give them an hour. I'm going to give them an hour. However, reality, reality. These are so advanced. These craft. I don't know if the beings are might be fucking retards who stole the piece of their parents, but like the craft are so advanced. They wanted to hurt us. They hurt us. They hurt us at any given. That's what I said. When Duncan was here, they could have wiped us out. Fucking Duncan. Why isn't he here? A million year. I know. I just don't get it. I texted you three fucking times and I gave you a god damn Duncan. God damn it. If you don't meet me at 350, today at my hotel for me to take you to Willy Wonka's magical Emporium of Fantasy. Fuck you. Fuck you. And you have to make it. Wow, that too. Okay, where are we? Sorry. Where are you? Where do you want to take me? Where do I want to go? I mean, look, I just think I agree with you. I agree with you. There's more to this. I think that we're in a highly materialistic age where we have been told how to think, how to feel. And they're, look, spirituality and now all these things have been human consciousness is also the great mystery. We don't know shit about. And I think the atomic model that we're on is fucking bullshit too. And we're about to enter this new era of understanding consciousness and how it works. And but that's the thing is like, let's fucking do it. Come on. What's the whole time? You're right. What's my hope? Let's fucking go. Let's force it. Let's use people's desire to force scientific study to force experiments. Let's focus on human consciousness because there's something beautiful that is intangible to me where our consciousness has a direct interplay with physical reality. I've experienced this. Look, the secret. Remember that thing that came out? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I felt like a fault though. Really? Because I'm sitting here now in a fucking studio. This is the house that Farts built because I was into the secret and manifesting and using your mind to create. Like I created a stupid career telling jokes about my tits through just believing and going. So consciousness is very powerful. Okay, so that's real. But then what if I've got friends that are super sick and they have incurable diseases and everybody's telling them, oh, do this, the secret, do this. Oh, that's good. Do this. And then what happens is they still got cancer. Of course. They still fucking die. And so what I'm asking you is, you know, how do you square that circle? You're like, so I agree with you that my whole life. I'm talking about material success. I'm not talking about health and I'm talking about like in your body. I don't know. My mom told me when she had cancer really bad that she got all the treatments. She lost her hair. She did all this when I was a kid. I was like 13. And she says, I visualized like snow just coming or going all over my body. Just ripping out the cancer getting gone. No, we don't know. Was it the chemotherapy? Was it the snow? I don't know, but we don't know, but it can't hurt. You can't hurt to visualize like you doing the material success of your life. Of course. To visualize a healthy body. Yeah. What's in your mind is is is very powerful. It is the worst virus ain't fucking COVID. The worst virus is a fucking douchebag putting negativity on it. You have to guard your mind like more than you need to guard your physical body. Of course. So we're talking the same like we're just meeting for the first time at Berkeley. I know. I can do that too. Oh, hold on. So do you think that have you heard stories? I mean, burp. I can rip get this fucking rip dude. Have you heard stories like mine where people see orbs and then they become awakened or something? Christina. What? I don't know. I'm new to this. I've only talked to the blood cells. I know stories like yours. If I had a if I had a penny honey. So check it out. But to give you a positive feedback here. My emails are like a biggest slot machine at midnight. No, no, in a good way. From all around the world. From every socio-economic class of human being from every country, from every educational background, military, non-military, kids that like write me they're doing a class paper because they saw something at 13. You're asking me have I ever heard a story like yours? It is a worldwide experience. We just don't talk about it or share it because we've been told you ain't rap so tight. Hmm. The awakening part though, the the integration, the emotional spiritual. All these words you use people. I hear them all the time. I don't relate to that. What is the awakening? What is the spiritual? I am awake. I am alive. Is the world awake? That's the bridge. But that's the bridge between guys like you and guys like me. The the the spiritual, the emotional artists and like the do you know? Maybe we are. I don't know. Talking feels good. But here's the deal. I think we are all awake. No, no, no, let me make my argument. Let me make my argument. Okay. I believe in humanity. We are spectacular creatures. We have so much pain because like by the way life has pain. Yes. As you know. And we were born awake. We are awake. What we're doing is we're numbing ourselves. We're awake. All you gotta do is stop numbing yourself. Be okay with pain. Yes. Be okay with your. Be okay with being vulnerable. Be okay. Yes. Saying what you mean. Mean what you say though. Don't fuck around. Life is short. Don't fuck around. Yes. You got somebody that you have a riff with. Call them. If they don't pick up, that's on them. You've tried. Yes. Tell them. I'm just saying we're I don't like these delineations because what happens? You say spiritual. Oh, he's not spiritual. I know you're not saying that. But I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Like fuck that. You're a human being. You're alive. It's like it's like a racist spiritual thing. You're like a wake. I'm a spiritual racist. No, no, no. Oh my god. I'm talking. Now you're fucking making a piss out of me. No, no, no, no. But I'm just saying I'm trying to make a point because I've felt this so long, which is it. So, you know, it's so 1950s be a racist. You got to be a real old be a racist, right? So here's the deal. We're human beings. I think we're on a rock that's spinning. I think never gone up. I haven't been invited up yet. This space. Check it out. When people say words like awakening and this sort of thing, it isolates a certain population. People they feel, well, maybe I'm not awake. Fuck that. Everybody is awake. We all have pain. This is my personal choice. So I'm trying to be inclusive and saying mother fuckers nut up and stop being a bitch and stop hiding what you're really thinking. Just fucking say it. And if people, your friends don't like it, then you don't got to be friends with them no more. Like you said, you called the herd. You didn't say those words, but with your fucking friends. Yeah. So I'm sorry. That's just I've been feeling that a lot lately. We're all in this together. Fuck off. Yeah. Right. I think you're I think what you're saying is absolutely right. I don't know that I think there's a process. Everybody is capable of feeling and experiencing what I did. I'm not saying I'm special. Every human's birth right is to become integrated or a way. Yes. You're you're it is a divine right that you should be happy that you should do what your jujitsu teacher was saying like fully experience your being or whatever it is to to be fully yourself without encroaching a matter what your experience to make someone else come to tell them about your fucking orbs and you did one on a worldwide podcast. But I mean, so you're doing it. But I'm saying, you don't speak up. Everybody speak up. If you've had a UFO, UAP experience, just speak up. You don't talk to me. Just don't call me call everybody else. Just tell them. Don't get radical about it. Just tell them and if you and if they pick it up and consume it like the fish and they like the fucking sushi. Right. They're and they're on. They're on our team. And if not, no worries. Don't listen to me. Then then fine. Not in this lifetime. Next lifetime, you'll pick it up. But I think there's I think what I think is happening is we all have consciousness, right? Everybody's conscious to some extent. How much of it we can exercise through the feeling our feelings is what opens that consciousness. What you're saying? So a lot of us are actually unconscious in a sense of we're numbing. We're avoiding. We're everybody most of us. Oh, fear does that to me. I've become aware of my wife says, okay, Jeremy, you're in robot mode of dissociation. I dissociated for 34 years. I never do it therapist because I can't tell them, you know, I hear you have to be honest to a therapist. And I like, if I've heard class, I can't tell them as a jerk. You know, so like I, dude, I would love a therapist, but not a CIA therapist. No. You know what I mean? Somebody that would, anyway, so you're saying, please continue your thought. Yeah, what I'm saying is most of us are capable. We are all capable. Every human being is capable of experiencing and feeling authentic. What I have, absolutely, I'm not special. I'm not different. I just saw it out. I'm a seeker. You saw it. So okay, so but now I haven't answered my question. It's going to be a worm in my brain. Okay. You got an answer or you don't know as an answer. Okay. Chicken or egg. Oh, did your life change because you saw the orbs? Yes. Or did you see the orbs because your life changed? Both, both, but more of the former. Okay. So hold on. My life was always, I've always, like I said, I've been a seeker, but then I hit rock bottom. I see orbs, and I believe now I believe that there's something bigger out there because I fucking have confirmation that the supernatural is real. I mean, I walk, I couldn't sleep that night. I couldn't, I couldn't go back to living the life I lived because I, I had come - Confirmation. - How long ago? - This is in October, last October. And Bocafuckin' for Tom, bitch. - How did your husband react when you were like dead? I saw some fucking orbs and I think they're aliens in them. So, how are you doing? How did he react? - He knows that I'm wacky and was always like, I believe you. I believe you. - But did you want him to. - To see it. - Oh, you wanted to see it. - So I said great, we went back home. And on our rooftop here in Austin, I go, let me just see if it'll happen here and it did. And he sat down and he goes, holy shit, it's like a fucking parade. I go, I know, and he's like, but it doesn't affect him. - They weren't in a straight line. - No, no, the go-off every witch direction. He goes, it's a fucking parade. - What was his feelings? - Not like mine. - He was just like, that's fucking cool. I gotta go do a fucking job. - 100%. - That's cool. And that's why I'm not so affected by it. Like if you don't, it's not your time. Maybe you're not able to have, maybe they tap into something that you're ready to get. - But when you say it's not your time, you make people feel like they're lesser than you. - No. - No, no, I'm just trying to say what I've experienced for 15 years, so I'm trying to make UFOs great again. I'm trying, I can't believe you said that. I'm trying to be a witness to people, as a journalist, that I have heard tens of thousands of people whose lives have been transformed. - Thank God, I'm not crazy. - Well, I did not say that. - Yeah, we were about to tell me there's others, I'm just glad there's others. - There definitely are others, but like my wife can't give a fuck about it. There's a tip jar in our minds for, if I say the word UFO, she doesn't give a fuck. She's like, ask me how you're doing. I go for 15 minutes 'cause I'm in like interview mode, and she's like, no, I just asked, did you feed the dogs? You know what I mean, it's like, like your husband, it's not as time, it just doesn't matter to him. He's doing his thing, it matters to you. - It matters to me because I asked for it. But I also asked for it. I was broken, I had just experienced the most awful thing in the world, and I asked for it, and I think, and I asked for grace, whatever that is in religious terms, and I got that help. So I don't fucking know, there's something about being, and this is, I don't know if that's a common denominator too, and these people with the words. - Yeah, a lot of times people are at a point where they let down their guard. - Yes, that's what it is. - And their boundary, yeah. - That's what it is, it's the program societal, ego-mind that says, this is for weirdos, you're fucking weird. You can just, but knuckle, white knuckle through it. Just shut up, just get on with things. - Which is a survival thing we have to do. - Yes, yes, and it got me really far for many years, and then I cracked, open emotionally. - That happened to me. - Yeah, right. And then you go, enough, I'm 50 years old, it's now or never, when will I be a fucking human being? - I can't do this anymore. - Now imagine what you can do. Now that you have focus and self-awareness, loving your heart, power. That's amazing. If we can all get there, in our own lives, the world would be a beautiful fucking place. - And I think that's the point of these phenomenon. I think that's a lot of this, don't you? - I don't know, as a journalist, I don't know, but I feel that there's an opportunity for that. - Yeah. - Because I've just talked to too many moms, brothers, sisters, doctors, lawyers, plumbers, carpenters, people from all over the world, that tell me that they were changed. So that's why at the end of the movie, when I saw it, I was like, that's it, you got a kid, the kid Michael. I was like, UFOs, 'cause there's this long talk I'm making. - I know, I love it. I love it. It's so good. - I want to actually say one thing about the movie. - It's so good. - Check it out. What I said, if I recall, is that to me, or I don't know if I said to me, but UFOs are just a symbol. - Yeah. - There are an opportunity. It's like to remind you. So I'm agreeing with you. I think that they pose an opportunity to be reminded of the mystery of what it means to be born, what it means to live your life. And if we stop thinking about ourselves, that we start thinking about others, and we start thinking about like other people, and we start thinking about what it means to be human, then we realize that we need to live by example. And if we live by example, that is the greatest lesson you could ever give, anybody you care about, is to live what you say with your mouth. And I think that's what you have so much. I think that's what your photos are, other than technological bias craft, that's hidden from you. - That too. - And the CIA is after everybody that was trying to speak for it, and they brought up the whistler for treason, and they fucking tried to fuck me, and fuck George and control us, and control our mouths, and fuck you for not wanting the world to know this beautiful, beautiful truth, and sure, maybe there's something scary. Maybe we're a commodity. Maybe it's too big a secret. Don't kick a sleeping dog, Jeremy. You know what? Fuck you. You're not my daddy. I never asked you to be the fucking barrier between me and the natural world. You can suck a dick. Yeah, and I think that's-- - But you know, Jerry Corvall. (laughing) - He's like, "The booth people clap." Yeah, he makes me feel good. Watch out, praise and blame is all the same. All of a sudden, gets in my head that you like that. Fuck that. - I don't have a kid eye on your own supply. - Oh, hey! - Come on. - I just can't hide it. - What kind of drug dealer are you if you don't? You got to test it before you sell it anyway, okay? - No, but I think you're right. Anyway, that was a beautiful way to end this show. I think that you said there's nothing more to say after that. You guys watch sleeping dog. How do people watch it? - Yeah, great question with their eyes. - You know where can they see it? Where can they see it, like in their room at home? Not just finally. - Like, okay, okay, okay, okay, check it out. There is one thing I want to say about it because I haven't said this yet, but and it's important to me. They can watch sleeping dog. This kid Michael Azowski made a film, Sleeping Dog. And it is about UFOs and it was to provoke the government. That was the reason. It was to show people the stress and pressure that I was put under by intelligence agencies, private corporations, and also what the whistleblowers have gone through. You see that all, but what I want to say about the movie, other than I let people in just because I thought it would be protective for me. That's what he convinced me. - Yeah. - 'Cause I don't want to live in fear and I don't want to live under pressure and I don't want to live in these secret things where, you know, I'm having to have secret meetings and fucking Congress with it. I want this all to be out. Whatever it is, I want it to be out. I am just literally doing my best as a journalist with George, what I want to say about the movie is this. At the mother fucking end, a light of fire. Let's fucking light this shit up. - Yeah. - There's a song that plays and I just want to say thank you because I've never said this 'cause the movie just came out. Watch it on Amazon, watch it on fucking Apple right now. I'm sure a streamer, if they have any wisdom, you know, we'll see they can make money on it and want to put it up. Right now, we just put it on Amazon and Apple. Everybody can get it. At the end of the movie, there is a song and it's by a guy named Ben, Ben Schneider. People know him as Lord Huron. He is an amazing human being. He has this incredible wife. He has, I'll just say, offspring. I don't know how personal I want to get, but he essentially fought to allow me to include a song at the end of the movie and I'm gonna butcher this, but I believe it's, life is strange. - Yeah, I'm, can I tell you that? I actually listened to it and I was like, that's a really great song. I hate everything. - Mother fucking Huron. - Oh my God, I was so touching. I was like, that's a really perfect song to end this movie on. - You just wait. So so Michael put that in 'cause he became a fan because George Napp was friends with Ben and then George has been dragging me for 15 years to learn about music 'cause I'm musically retarded. My wife says stunted, but I say retarded. - It's time to. - We're like that. We're gonna go see Lord Huron on six to June 2nd at the Santa Barbara Bowl and I know I'm not supposed to say where I'm gonna be in times this, but that's, I'm so excited. So that's what I wanna say about the movie, other than watch it and it's a very serious subject. It is funny. It looks like a horror movie and there's this beautiful song and it's by this guy Ben and I've never thanked him yet. So I'm publicly trying to thank that motherfucker. - Thank you Ben. - 'Cause that song meant a lot to me. - Well, I just wanna thank you for all the work that you've done on all of this. And I think you're pushing humanity into its next iteration, very necessary. - Don't blame me for that. - We're out of the, we're getting out of the old 1950s mentality. - We better 'cause it's 2026 last I heard. - Yeah, it's so fucking boring. And I think the public is ready to, the kids are ready. I don't think anybody is ready. - Oh, they're completely ready. Are you kidding me? The next generation. What are you talking about? - Nobody's freaked out. - Nobody cares. - No, in fact, it's inspiring. It's like the new, you know when like, atomic physics became a thing and all these people wanted to be nerds and study atomic physics. We need more Americans, you know, studying the cutting bleeding edge stuff. And I think UAP should be in every high school. Just the known facts. Like no, the known facts. Like what are the pilot reports saying? - What are we learning about? - Right. What are we learning about now? - That's so silly. - I do actually, we need to end on something 'cause your pilot is probably coming out soon. For the first time in human history, a president has, man, I'm not a political person, but the first time in human history, a president said, "Release files." Okay, so what files? So they gave us like a trove of them. There's more coming really soon, by the way, really soon. Sleeping dog provokes 'cause I show eight videos that are military filmed. They have to release those eight, but there's 46 Congress to ask. I gave them the file names, and they publicly put it out on Twitter. Here are the file names. Those 46 videos better be released to the American public so that they can assess their value and validity. And I was promised by Congress, and they publicly put a photo up with the new director of Arrow, and they said, "We are copacetic now, bitch, let's fucking go." That was not their tweet, but it was good. So I want to end your podcast 'cause it probably comes out soon. June 3rd. What day is it? How long is that? I don't even know what year it is. May, are we in May? It's 1,500. Is it May or May? It's May 21st. So how long till June 3rd? It's like two weeks from now. Okay, so hey, government, you better release those 46 files. They're coming out, come hell or high water, and that's just the start. Then you need to tell people about reverse engineering and biologics and beings and autopsies, and maybe even agreements. That's how I want to end this podcast with you, and I'm so glad we fucking fight. I love you. Come back again. Let's do this soon. Every time I'm in Austin, I'm gonna be bomb, and you'd be like, "How do I do?" Why are you sending me so many videos and all you're gonna say? I like it. And Duncan, I love you. I love you. Thank you so much, Jeremy, you're the best. Sleeping dog out now, watch it. Okay, I love you. Bye, mommy's. Bye, mommy's. You're mommy's house. 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