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The transcript details a critical examination of the Charlie Kirk assassination case, focusing on several troubling inconsistencies in the evidence chain. A central issue is the missing three bullet jacket fragments from the alleged 30-06 wound, with no clear explanation for their disappearance despite a timeline that appears rushed and unrealistic—specifically, the fragments were reportedly received on September 11, 2025, after a flight from Utah to Maryland, yet processed over four days with no immediate follow-up. The timeline raises alarms about potential mishandling, including a three-month delay in delivering the ATF report to the defense and a lack of chain-of-custody documentation for over six months. This lack of transparency is further compounded by the discovery of multiple individuals—George Zen, Dr. Erica Kirk, and Tyler Robinson—registering on the Flock messaging app after the incident, with no plausible reason, especially given Tyler’s isolation in custody. The registrations, occurring in specific time zones and months after the event, suggest unauthorized access or coordinated activity. These anomalies—combined with the prosecution’s failure to account for all fragments and the apparent alteration of evidence—point to systemic issues in evidence management and raise serious concerns about the integrity of the investigation. The overall narrative suggests a case riddled with inconsistencies that could undermine the prosecution’s claims of a clear, direct link between Tyler Robinson and the shooting. These unresolved questions demand rigorous judicial scrutiny, especially in a capital case where the stakes of error are extreme.
All right, you guys, welcome in, welcome in, welcome in.
I will be breaking news here tonight, ladies and gentlemen, breaking news, and some of
the happiest and most important news we'll bring during this entire time that I'm sitting
in.
I want to introduce everybody to Conrad James Farmer, his very first introduction to the
world right here, Conrad James Farmer, an absolutely beautiful, happy baby boy, and
I'm thankful to him.
I wouldn't be here without him.
No, I'm kidding, Conrad, I'm kidding.
I would never be so selfish as to thank you for introducing me to this program.
Hey, guys, we got a lot to talk about tonight.
We got a lot to talk about tonight.
We're going to dive in, we're going to dive back into the Charlie Kirk investigation in
a big way tonight.
We've got a couple of different angles we're digging into on there.
One is the bullet jacket fragment.
We're going to take a little bit of a detailed look at the timeline and ask if it really
makes sense.
And another angle we're going to approach is there was a message.
A messaging platform that several people connected to this case, very closely connected
to this case, all decided to jump on this rare, seldom used messaging platform.
And so we're going to take a little bit of a look at that and ask some questions when
we get to that part.
Also, we're going to check in on the Make Heaven Crowded tour and ask, why?
Why do you guys keep picking these people to go to their churches?
But we'll get there when we get there.
And finally, we're going to look at the very manly MAGA sphere influencer, a guy named
Xavier, and check out what he's doing in the legal system in the courts.
All this and more coming up next on Candace.
And yes, I was kidding.
When I said manly, but we'll get to that part at the end.
We'll get to that part later.
I want to open with the bullet jacket fragment.
OK, I need to set it up a little bit.
So you guys kind of understand why this matters, why this matters.
The allegation, the Fed slop allegation is that Tyler James Robinson crawled to the top
of the Losey Center at Utah Valley University on September 10th, September 10th, 1223, 30
ish p.m.
And fired a single round from a 30 out six.
That was owned by his grandfather.
And that 30 out six round went downrange and made its way to Charlie Kirk.
And that led to his death.
Obviously, it raised a lot of questions.
First, it didn't look much like a 30 out six wound to a lot of people.
There was an immediate rash of people running around saying, how, how did it not go through
the back of his neck?
How did it not create a different looking entrance wound?
How did it not knock Charlie Kirk off the back of his chair?
There were just a lot of questions about this 30 out six, and we were hoping we were hoping.
Once the ATF got a hold of the bullet jacket fragments and the bullet jacket or the bullet
jacket and the little fragments of lead and and were able to put everything together,
they would be able to put a comprehensible story together for us.
Unfortunately, they did not.
In fact, once we got a hold of the report, not the underlying data, but the actual report,
once we got a hold of the report, we had more questions than answers.
One of the questions we had.
One of the questions we had was, where did all the fragments go?
Where did all the fragments go?
If you go back in time and you remember at the preliminary hearing, the lady who tested
the fragments said she received four fragments in a manila envelope, four fragments and then
the bullet jacket in a manila envelope.
The records suggested there were seven fragments.
Raises an obvious question.
This is the highest profile political assassination in more than half a century, I would argue.
This is, you know, something that's taking years to get.
To trial hundreds, thousands, millions, maybe of man hours by the time this thing's all
settled.
Lots of people complaining that it's taking too long to get to trial.
So where did, why, how did we lose three bullet fragments?
Where did they go?
And, and when did they get lost?
Well, one of the, one of the things we're going to look at, and we're going to pull
up here, the requested relief from a defense motion.
I want to remind you that on January 14th of next year, 2027, two months from now, there
will be oral.
Arguments on a motion filed.
Here is a picture of the requested relief.
This will give you an idea of what we're talking about.
The defense wanted a temporary order that prohibited the state of Utah or its agents,
meaning the FBI from conducting any further testing of this bullet jacket fragment.
Because the FBI told them they might have to destroy this thing.
We mentioned this either yesterday or a couple of days ago.
I can't remember when we brought this up, but they mentioned.
That they might have to destroy it in order to adequately test it.
And the defense said, well, you can't go destroying evidence without us being able to take a look
at it.
Well, that got us thinking, let's look at the timeline.
How did this all come together?
So that's what we're going to do today.
We're going to look through the bullet jacket fragment timeline.
How did it get out of Charlie Kirk?
As gruesome as that sounds, how did it get out of Charlie Kirk?
And what was the chain of custody getting it to the point where somebody in an ATF office
is examining this thing?
So we're going to go through that.
We're going to go ahead and take a look at this.
First thing we have to establish, we know, well, we concluded because all of the photos
of the autopsy that were requested were dated September 10th.
From that, we concluded all of the autopsy photos were taken by September 10th, by midnight
of September 10th, meaning the autopsy was over by midnight of September 10th.
Otherwise, I think when the defense asked for all the photos, those photos might have
leaked into September 11th.
In fact, a lot of people at the time, if you go back and look at the autopsy, you'll see
a lot of people at the time, if you go back in time and remember, there were news people
camped outside of the medical examiner's office well into the afternoon of September 11th
because it just seemed awfully fast.
It just seemed very, very fast the way this thing came together.
Less than 12 hours from the time we first heard the big bang, every autopsy photo was
completed.
So we have a September 10th timeline where the clock begins ticking.
At some point on September 10th, we are told, or we are led to believe, that this bullet
jacket fragment and these seven other bullet fragments, these seven other bullet
fragments are taken from Charlie Kirk.
They're packaged up in what we're told is a manila envelope, and they're somehow sent to
the ATF.
Well, the ATF is in Maryland, so it's not like they were run across the street.
It's not like they were, you know, handed off by a courier or something.
Somebody had to get these from Utah to Maryland.
So let's go through how this might have happened.
First thing I want to show you is an FBI flight that landed in Provo, that landed from Provo
to Maryland, to Baltimore-Washington International Airport, on the afternoon of September 11th.
The afternoon of September 11th.
Here is that flight.
You can see there, this flight goes, and it tracks the time there, 2108 Zulu time in the
lower left-hand corner.
That's when the flight terminates.
It's at the very low.
We highlighted it in yellow.
I'm not sure if you can see that well, but 2108.
To get to East Coast time, you have to subtract.
So that would be 1708.
Now you subtract 12 for military time.
That's 508 PM.
508 PM Eastern time.
508 PM Eastern time, there's an FBI plane that lands in Baltimore, Maryland.
We can find no other transport that goes anywhere near the ATF office in Maryland other than
this one plane, which leads us to believe that is probably the plane that had the bullet
jacket.
Because we know they had to have arrived at the ATF on September 11th, if everything's
on the up and up, if the story's accurate.
Now, how do we know that?
Well, first, let me show you the Google Maps from the Baltimore, Washington airport to
the ATF office on Amundale Road in Beltsville, Maryland.
Google Maps estimates it's a 35 to 55 minute drive.
We'll call it 45 minutes.
We'll just cut it down the middle.
So at 508, the plane lands.
It's got a taxi in.
They've got to get off the plane.
They've got to get their stuff.
They've got to get to a car.
They've got to get over there.
That's not happening in less than, let's say, 20 minutes.
And so this thing is looking like it may not have arrived.
If this plane is accurate, if we're right, and that plane held the bullet jacket fragments,
that plane landing, getting the people off the plane into a car over to Beltsville, Maryland,
in all likelihood did not happen before 630 p.m., 630 p.m. on the 11th.
Well, why is that a big deal?
Because they're tied to a timeline based on some of the evidence.
They produced.
Here is an example of the timeline being tied down on September 11th.
This is a pic of the bullet jacket fragments as received, as received.
Those are the preparation ones.
Let's go to the as received ones.
There they are.
As received.
You'll notice the date at the bottom of this.
It says September 11th, 2025.
Now, these photos were taken, we believe, by.
Karner, the corner lady who was the one who was testifying at the preliminary hearing.
So if these photos were taken on September 11th as received, meaning these this is the condition in which I received these fragments.
This is not preparation.
This is not cleaned up.
This is not, you know, I don't know, run through a jewelry cleaner.
I have no idea how they clean these things, by the way.
But this is as received.
That's the title on this photo as received.
And that's September 11th.
Well,
If the bullet jacket fragments were still in the air,
5 p.m. on September 11th, and then they land and then they have to get driven over to the ATF
office. They wouldn't be there before, we'll call it 6.30ish p.m. At some point, the official
timeline now puts those bullet jacket fragments being photographed on September 11th sometime
after 6.30 p.m. That was a Thursday. It was a Thursday. It's possible, it's possible, guys,
that this thing was just an around-the-clock, 24-hour-a-day, seven-day-a-week thing, and
they get this, you know, the car comes in the parking lot and they take it out and they
immediately rip into the manila envelope and they immediately get to work on this thing and they
start photographing it. I am very disturbed by the speed in which everything took place.
Very disturbed by the speed in which everything took place. It just strikes me as an incredibly
tight timeline to get these things out of a human body, to get them into an envelope, to get them
onto a plane that does not arrive.
Does not arrive in the Washington, D.C. area until after 5 p.m. Eastern time. Get them into a car, get
them to the ATF office where the ATF people apparently are just sitting around waiting
well after five o'clock on a Thursday in a government office, waiting for bullet jacket
fragments to show up. What's the hurry? What's the hurry? And I'll show you why I'm concerned
about the September 11th date, because the next one, the as-prepared photo, the as-prepared photo,
this is where they've peeled things back. She described it as taking pliers, just taking
pliers, like a pair of Milwaukee pliers out of the old toolbox, and peeling these things back so that
she can access some of these striations and marks and all these things. And you can see it has
actually done damage to the bullet jacket fragment. It looks different than it did in the
as-received. The as-prepared photo was taken on September 15th. That's four days.
September 15th, okay, you got the Thursday the 12th, Friday the 13th, Saturday the 14th,
Sunday the 15th. They're in the office, in a government office at the ATF building.
I'm presuming my math is right there. 11th, 12th, that's Friday. 13th, 14th is the weekend. 15th is
Monday. Okay, Monday, excuse me. They're in the office on a Monday where they're now preparing
this thing. They're peeling it back with pliers and they're getting ready to do the analysis. So what was
the hurry after 6.30 p.m. on a Thursday night with immediately tearing into this envelope and
immediately beginning to photograph these things? And at what point did somebody say, hey, wait a
minute, we don't have everything. We don't have everything. You told us there were seven fragments.
Now we only received four. We only received four. That's a massive discrepancy in a capital murder
trial. That's something that needs to be answered. Someone needs to be able to say, hey, we don't have
to explain where those three fragments went and why they didn't make their way on that same plane
that we believe took the fragments to Baltimore-Washington International Airport and then
over to Beltsville, Maryland. So I want to tell you that my concern with this isn't that
I think things got lost, like they just fell out of the envelope and somebody swept them away and
they didn't realize it. Then the custodian came by that night and they were doing their sweeping
and there go the fragments. That's not my concern.
My concern isn't that somebody in Provo or in O'Orem or in wherever he had his autopsy.
It's not my concern that somebody there was like, oh, we have seven fragments. Well,
we don't need all seven. Let's just send four of them down the road. Throw those other three out.
Those are not necessary. That's not my concern either. My concern is you're telling me you pulled
seven fragments out. You're telling me this is a big deal. And these pieces are going to go to
proving Tyler Robinson beyond a reasonable doubt.
Solely planned and executed Charlie Kirk with a 30 out six. And you can't account for all the
evidence. And the evidence you can account for has a weird timeline that to me just doesn't make
sense. You're receiving things on September 11th. Well, after 5 p.m., probably after 630 p.m.,
you're immediately pulling it out and taking pictures. And then what? You're putting it aside
for three days. You're putting it aside until Monday. Like, yeah, it's Thursday. It's Miller
time. You know, let's head home. OK, well, why didn't you look at it Friday or come in Saturday
or Sunday? It's supposed to be in around the clock. Twenty four.
Hour a day thing. Maybe. I don't know. But if you're going to take them out and you're going
to take the pictures quickly, but then you don't do anything with it for three days. I'm very
concerned with that timeline. Very, very, very concerned with that timeline, because when you're
looking at a capital murder case, when you're looking at things like reasonable doubt, a defense
lawyer is going to pick these things apart. I'm not the only one that has identified this problem.
I promise you. I promise you people like Kathy Nestor and Michael Byrd have looked at this and
gone, wait a minute. They don't have all the fragments. Where are the rest of the fragments?
And why did they?
They hurried to get these things photographed as received and then not do anything with them for
four days. So anyway, hold that. Hold that. The next time we see these fragments, the next time
we see these fragments, we are told the ATF report is finalized by September 17th. Finalized by
September 17th. The DNA report was done on September 15th. The fragments, the report,
they're analyzed. It's typed up. It's finalized and signed. That's September 17th.
And that is when the defense begins to say, hey, what the heck is going on here? We need to reserve
this evidence. You guys have reached a conclusion that you don't know whether this bullet jacket
fragment came from that particular rifle. And now you're telling us you're going to have to destroy
the evidence in order to further evaluate it. Now, Ned, you see the problem with that request in
light of what's already happened, in light of the fact that you've apparently already lost evidence
in this case. There are three bullet fragments missing.
You've apparently already lost evidence. Now you're telling us you have to destroy the rest
of the evidence in order to make any kind of official determination. And your original
determination is we can't tell you whether or not this came from the gun. We think it's probably a.30 caliber round. But, you know, there's dozens and dozens of different.30 caliber rounds.
They're not all.30-06s. It's right for the defense to raise that issue. My guess is these types of questions are going to land in front of a jury
one day. And the jury's going to say, well, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't
going to have to say, yeah, what the hell was going on? What was the hurry? Where'd the rest
of the fragments go? The judge actually granted the motion to stop the destruction of evidence,
to his credit. Again, Judge Graff has done some things right in this case. He actually did grant
the motion. And that's where it sat for roughly the last year, because that was on November 3rd.
Here we sit November 10th, a year and a week later, and nothing's changed. We don't know where
the bullet jack fragments are. Nobody's telling us an update on their location, the chain of
custody, all that. We assume, we assume they're still sitting in a storage locker somewhere
in Beltsville, Maryland, but we don't know. We don't know. It wasn't until December 18th that
the defense even received the ATF report that was prepared on September 17th. So we now have
another inexplicable three-month delay. Once the report is done, why aren't you shuffling it over
to the defense? We're in such a hurry. We've got to tear open this manila envelope after
flying these bullet jacket fragments across the country in a single day.
And we've got to get them pictured. And then we don't have to look at them. We're not going to
examine them for four days. And then we're going to immediately produce a report within two days
of examining them. And then we're not going to send the report for 90 days. Just a lot of questions
on this timeline. This is something that needs to be looked at, examined. I don't find this
particularly persuasive that the prosecution is doing everything in their power to handle this
correctly, if I'm being honest. It looks like there are way too many opportunities for things
to be messed with here.
Way too many things to be messed with. So in January, they filed a motion. Last January,
they filed a motion and that motion finally got set. That motion finally got set. And it is set
now for January 17th. I think that's probably the next time they will go into court, if I'm not
mistaken. There may be other things on the timeline. I looked at the timeline the other day.
There's a thousand entries on it. But they will go into court in January and they will try to
determine. How do we proceed on trying to determine whether that's going to be a good thing or not?
that bullet was fired from that rifle.
Because I'm telling you right now,
if you can't tell me that bullet was fired from that rifle,
you're going to have a very difficult time
convicting Tyler Robinson.
A very difficult time convicting Tyler Robinson.
Juries don't like uncertainty
when they're putting people to death.
That's a general rule.
All right.
Let me, actually, we have a photo
from the March 27 filing.
Is that just the same photo we've been showing?
No. Okay.
Yeah, this is the chain of custody thing
we were talking about.
This is the defense saying,
hey, listen, here we sit in March.
This is March of 2026.
This is six months after Charlie Kirk passed away.
More than six months after Charlie Kirk passed away.
This is more than six months
after they did all the testing
and submitted the report.
This is several months after they produced the report.
And the defense in March is still saying,
hey, we don't have copies
of the chain of custody documents for these items.
We don't even have the log entry for these items.
We don't have the documentation
that says where these materials are,
where they're being stored,
how they're being stored.
Are they being destroyed
by being stored improperly?
We don't have the weights
and the different measurements
that went along with this.
If you want to convince people
this isn't a multi-agency cover-up,
if you want to convince people
the federal government has nothing to do
with the death of Charlie Kirk,
this is not how you handle evidence.
This is not how you handle evidence.
This is not how things. You don't lose three bullet jacket fragments
without providing evidence.
an explanation of how you don't hide the report from the defense for 90 days and i have a feeling
the reason they hid the report is because it was inconclusive it was inconclusive the report
couldn't state that that bullet was fired from that gun and so they just didn't turn it over
and then they come back with as well to in order to be more sure we'll just destroy the evidence
nope sorry sorry i hope judge graff rules properly on this in january i hope he makes sure that
evidence doesn't get destroyed before the defense has an opportunity to examine it in its present
condition they've already altered and changed the nature of it when they peeled everything back in
order to get a closer look we saw the difference in the fragments in the as received and as prepared
these look different these look different you can take a look at it here that's as they received it
and then when you click it you can see the one
on the right as prepared those are changed fundamentally changed the nature of that
evidence has been altered before the defense ever had a chance to look at it
so i you got to put a lot of faith in a trial judge in a situation like this the trial judge
is in many ways like the little miniature emperor of what's going on at the trial court level you
gotta hope he makes the right decision here you gotta hope he doesn't make um the defense sit back
and watch as evidence
gets destroyed evidence allegedly has already been lost or apparently already been lost
we're talking about putting a young man to death for a crime he may or may not have committed
you need to be sure you need to be very very sure all right i want to roll forward to
something really weird frankly as we came across this um i noticed diligent denizen over on x had
commented on a messaging app called flock messaging this has nothing whatsoever to do with flock
care
cameras these cameras everybody has heartburn about that are on roadways all over the place
and apparently in parks and schools and weird places like that diligent denizen noticed that
tyler robinson his email address had registered allegedly the record seemed to indicate that his
email address had registered for one of these flock messaging app um accounts and done so
well after he was in custody in fact like a year after he was in custody
he was taken into custody it raised a lot of questions who has access to his email account
what are they doing with it what is this flock messaging app and who else might be on this
platform well we took a closer look after seeing that he'd identified tyler robinson's email address
popping up on this i'll show you real quickly probably the most interesting do we want to pull
up the the flock website just so they can get an idea of what it even is there it is right there
website this if you've used microsoft team
teams and if you have i apologize if you've used slack if you work at a place and there's lots of
employees and you want to cut down on the number of meetings and you want to cut down on the amount
of emails going back and forth and you don't want things getting lost in text messages a lot of
companies open one of these messaging platforms this is just very similar to those they each have
a little difference i'm sure but it's very similar in nature to a slack or a microsoft teams so if
you want to know what it is you you sign up you
sign up with your email you get on a team and then you get added to different groups and you can
have these kind of communications over your phone or over your computer but you don't have to have
just a relentless onslaught of emails that are difficult to sift through you know all your spam
and everything else your your orders for takeout and everything else you get in your email inbox
and you're like okay where's my work email where's the project i'm working on these platforms kind of
cut down on all that that's the purpose of them one of the weirdest things about this is that
things in this case happened the night of september 10th not the day of september 10th that was
tragic and horrible that was when charlie kirk was taken down 12 23 p.m later that night
at 11 09 p.m mountain time 11 09 p.m mountain time george zen george zen was the old man who
threw up his hands immediately after charlie kirk went down and he started saying i did it i did it
i did it you know and then he was saying take me out take me out
you know and then he was saying take me out take me out you know and then he was saying
that's george zen and immediately everybody assumed he did it because my goodness who
runs through a crowd and takes credit for for something like that if you didn't do it so
he was taken into custody he was kind of roughed up a little bit they had to take him to the hospital
that was in the hospital we've talked about on on this program and my program how while he was at
the hospital he said that he actually confessed because it was part of a plan to let the assailant
get away that sort of flew under the radar that seems to indicate that more than one person was
involved in what happened he started saying that he was taking him to the hospital and he said
he did it within two or three seconds of everything happening but george zen in custody while he's at
the hospital and the police asked to take a look at his phone you mind if we look at your phone he
said yeah yeah you can have a look at my phone and they say is there gonna anything on this phone that
we need to know about he's like well maybe like anything illegal again maybe and ultimately they
determined there was allegedly illegal material on the phone it was child material young people
in inappropriate situations and so they take his phone into custody they take his phone into
custody here is a link from where they took george zen's phone into custody this is on one of the
search warrants where they're kind of given a narrative description i know i'm taking things
out of order here but so this is towards the end of the interview that the highlight at the top
agents asked to go into his phone and george allowed them now slide down to the highlight
at the bottom the police officer says i asked that a warrant be approved
to prevent the loss of evidence contained on george phone which is currently in possession
of the utah county sheriff's office so george zen's phone is in possession of the utah county
sheriff's office after george zen was taken into custody at the hospital that's very important for
this story because later that night after his phone was taken into custody later that night
george zen registers for a flock account here is
the registration we were able to track down and now we blacked out their email and their name but
trust me we've done all our due diligence this is george zen's email and this is george zen's
username like you're just gonna have to trust us on this but that is him we've done all due
diligence on this passed all our standards and it's ready for air but you'll notice the time
there it's 2209 so that's 1009 and the time zone is pacific time which would be 1109 mount
in time now at first when we came across this we thought well maybe everybody registers on pacific
time maybe that's just the default time on the platform so we you know have that in the back of
our minds maybe that's just when these things register but this is well after he's in custody
now it's possible now he did not stay in custody he left custody but his phone stayed in custody
george zen himself actually was released that day believe it or not even though he had illegal
materials on his phone even though he had said that he did it and that he that he was part of a
plan that that was his plan was to let the actual assailants get away and to take police attention
to him they still let him go and he didn't come back into custody for i think three or four more
days but that night 1009 p.m pacific time 1109 p.m mountain time there in utah somebody using
george zen's email george zen's username allegedly applies for a flock account
it's kind of a weird set of circumstances that's a weird time uh man might need a
flock account he doesn't have his text messaging capabilities anymore he doesn't have a phone
he doesn't strike me as a man of tremendous means that he can go out and drop another
thousand bucks on a phone real fast and get a new line fired up on overnight in the middle
of the night who is george zen need to talk to so badly in the middle of the night 1009 p.m
mountain time so just hold that whole story in your head it's a weird story
allegedly george zen signs up for this account that night after he leaves police custody
the police have his phone so one option is george zen went out and signed up for the account
another option darker option frankly is somebody in law enforcement perhaps or somebody with access
to george zen's phone applies for a flock messaging account on his behalf that's even darker
dark enough that george zen runs out to join this flock messaging app because his phone's
been taken away it's not like you can text people from it i mean this is something you have to know
people on the platform he wasn't on it before september 10th and then the night of september 10th
after he's in custody he jumps on this platform so that's all a weird situation that might be weird
in isolation so then we start running through a bunch of other people connected to the case
and we start looking for specific people to determine is there anyone else on this flock
messaging app one fact we found someone this person opened two accounts allegedly two accounts
on flock messaging using two different personal email accounts not business accounts personal
email accounts two different ones and george zen signs up for this account after he's in custody
and we will pull up the first one here this is dr erica kirk dr erica kirk jumps on the flock
messaging account now you'll notice the time this is not september 10th this is may 6th 2026
this is one of the two accounts we were able to find on her one of the two now notice the time
9 10 p.m and this time zone is central time in may of 2006
this is central time in may of 2006 and so it's not as if the time zones are defaulted to pacific
and and everybody gets a
time zone. So this is account one that we could find that allegedly could have been opened or at
least was opened using credentials with one of Erica Kirk's personal email address. That was at
9.10 p.m. on May 6th. Here's the second. This is at 8.48 a.m. on May the 6th. So one of them was
at 9.10 a.m. One of them was at 8.48 a.m. So 22 minutes apart. Two different accounts were open
using two different Erica Kirk personal email accounts on the Flock Messaging app. They were
listed in central time. They're listed in central time, May the 6th of 2026. This is not before
Charlie passes away. This is eight months later. Now you could say, I always try to think of the
other side, you know, what could be an innocent explanation. You could say, yeah, maybe she
opened up a Flock Messaging app through work.
Why wouldn't you use your work email account? You could say, maybe she opened it up through one of
her other businesses, Bible and 365 or Proclaim. Well, she has email accounts associated with those
businesses as well. Why wouldn't you open them with those businesses? And you could say, well,
maybe she just wanted a personal Flock Messaging account. Well, so why were there two? I mean,
you always raise the possibility. You always leave open the possibility. It wasn't her.
You leave open the possibility it wasn't George Zinn, but it gets a little weird when there's
two emails associated with you. That kind of narrows it down a little bit. We ourselves tested
this. In order to apply and register on the Flock platform, you have to verify your email account.
You sign up for it and they send you a verification and that's when you get accepted to the platform.
That's when you get accepted to Flock. That's when your entry is created. That's when your username
and your password are now activated. Before that, you just, you can't use it. You're kind of locked
out. But then there was the third one.
So we had George Zinn the night of September 10th. Very strange, very strange. In fact,
had George Zinn not registered or someone using George Zinn's personal email address, not registered
on September 10th, we might not even notice the weirdness of Erica Kirk registering on the exact
same platform a few months later. But the weirdest one of all is the next one. This is Tyler Robinson.
Tyler Robinson. This is Tyler Robinson's personal,
email account. And we know it is because it's in the warrants. This is in the search warrants.
And this one was created also on Pacific Time
on September 21th, just a few weeks ago, 2026. Well, Tyler Robinson is, we're told, isolated,
alone, without access to his phone, without access to his computer, in the Utah County Jail.
If that's true, who is you?
Using Tyler Robinson's personal email address to register for messaging platforms. And more
importantly, why? Erica, you can kind of say, well, maybe she, maybe she had some personal
business and she knew somebody that was on this platform. George Zinn's a little weirder. I mean,
it's maybe he lost his phone and he, you know, had a side hustle and they used Flock and they
were like, hey, jump on Flock. Maybe, I don't know. But Tyler Robinson's is without explanation.
There's really no explanation why his personal email,
account is allegedly registering for a platform, a messaging platform more than a year after he was
taken into custody. Those three are all active, by the way. All four of those really are all active
as we sit here today. It's a very, very strange set of circumstances. In my opinion, it's something
that bears some sort of explanation. Tyler Robinson, for example, is not on the West Coast.
George Zinn was not on the West Coast. Why do they have Pacific time zones? Where was Erica
Kirk on May 6th? Was she in the central time zone? Could that help explain why it registered as a
central time zone? Did someone else have access to her email accounts? We know someone else must
have had access to Tyler Robinson's email account. So there's just a lot of questions about this.
Not going to be resolved here tonight. We're not going to come out and say, here's the answer.
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Before we jump into this next one, I got to tell you about a place called Karis
Bible College. Karis Bible College. We were first introduced, many of us, to Karis Bible College.
C-H-A-R-I-S. Karis Bible College. Like charismatic. Charisma. Riz. It's the Riz College. Okay, sorry.
Karis Bible College is a very small school in Colorado. Very small. It's like a thousand
students. You know, I went to a high school that was bigger than that. So it's a small school.
I'm not saying it's a bad school. It's probably a great school. But it's a small school in Colorado.
Most of us were first introduced to Karis Bible College because it was the place Charlie Kirk
was scheduled to speak the day after he passed away. It is not as large. I mean, UVU is massive,
right? UVU is a massive school. Lots of these state schools that Charlie Kirk would show up on.
Very, very large schools. Karis Bible College is a very small school. And he was going to do a small
event that evening. And Candace Owens was actually the one that first broke that news. And she made
an interesting point about that.
Well, interestingly enough, I received a tip from someone that was directly involved with the
planning of an event that Charlie Kirk was supposed to attend the following day on September 11th,
the day after his assassination. Charlie was slated to speak in Woodland Park, Colorado at
the Karis Bible College. Okay, so that's in Woodland Park, Colorado. He was slated to speak
there. And according to this person,
after Charlie got assassinated, there was a bit of a panicked meeting that took place,
which was headed by the chief of police. They decided to transform this event into a vigil.
And they were panicked because, believe it or not, they had absolutely no security plan in place.
They thought, how odd. We don't have a security plan in place. Now we better consider this.
And we need to make sure that we have police officer involvement. Why didn't Dan Flood and
Brian Harpole and Turning Point USA's security have any coordination with the police departments
up in Colorado? If this is what they normally do, and, you know, whatever the way he over-describes
that, and they get the plan, and everybody can access and start to begin to speak,
and then we speak to the police, and then we do all this stuff. We just didn't think to do that
for the event that he had the next day. No police officer involvement scheduled, nothing. Suddenly,
they're panicked because they realize they don't have anything scheduled?
Yeah, it was a little odd. It was a little odd.
Odd. Um, Charlie Kirk was, uh, allegedly under constant attack. Uh, Erica talks often about how
there were, there were many threats on his life and they would, you know, she encouraged him to
wear body armor. And they, at one point they talked about using plexiglass in front of him
and he didn't want those distractions. He didn't want those separations from himself and the
audience he was trying to reach. So it's a little odd that the day before he passes away and they
all look together and say, well, he's, you know, let's put a vigil. Oh, he's supposed to be here
tonight. Why didn't anyone tell us? Why didn't anyone talk to the local police? Why didn't
anybody work out a security plan? Why didn't anybody tell us he was going to be there? The,
the, the event was supposed to take place at 7 0 5 PM. It was scheduled to end around 8 30 PM.
You would think somebody would have alerted, you know, maybe police and ambulance. We learned
those probably should have been deployed the day earlier. Well, they're going back. They're going
back.
USA is taking the show back on the road this time to care as Bible college, obviously without
Charlie, but Erica will be there. Erica will be here. Here's the poster for this week's event at
a gospel truth way, Woodland park, Colorado, that picture. I don't know if you guys know that
picture comes from 2018. That picture is eight years old, maybe 2017. That was her promo shoot
when she was a real estate agent before she even met Charlie Kirk.
And it's always been very dark to me. It's always been very dark to me. If something happened to my
wife, I can't imagine going back to 1997 and pulling out old pictures of a young Baron before
I ever met my wife and had kids and be like, this is how I want to be known from now on. No, I mean,
this is very strange, very, very strange. Maybe she thinks she looks great in it. I don't know.
But if you, if you looked in that poster, pull it back up. There's somebody in that poster
that caught my eye. It's a little strange. The guy on the left, Lucas miles, it's the head of
TP faith, which frankly, I don't even know why they're doing TP faith anymore. Uh, Danny Gokey,
I guess he's a singer. We got Dr. Frank Turek. Everybody knows Frankenbank, uh, notice he's got
his shooting glasses on always ready to go to the range at a moment's notice. Dr. Frank Turek is
never going to be without adequate eye protection. Never, never, never. And then all the way on the
right is a guy named Andrew Womack, Andrew Womack. So this, this fantastic five will be making their
way to the Karis Bible college.
Who is Andrew Womack? Well, Andrew Womack's an interesting character. He's a televangelist. He's a,
you know, TV preacher. He's also a faith healer. And if you listen to Andrew Womack, tell it his
faith healing is pretty extreme. Take a listen to some of the work he says he does here on his,
on a podcast. You told me something we were seeing at lunch one day and,
uh, we were talking, I think we were actually talking about this story and you said, well,
Jean, we've had, there's been a lot of people here raised from the dead right here on this campus.
Talk about that. We've seen, I'm guessing now I don't haven't sat down and counted, but I could
say we probably have seen four or five people raised from the dead right here on our campus.
And if you go to all of our schools, we got schools all over the world and our missions trips,
we have before a person can graduate,
go on a foreign missions trip. And if you were to add them all together, we have well over 50
people that have been raised from the dead. I'm not knocking raising people from the dead. I mean,
I'm all in favor of it. I guess if, if you've got the power, um, Jesus certainly did it on,
uh, on, on at least one occasion, I'm in, I'm, I'm in favor of it, but I am skeptical.
I'm skeptical when someone tells me that the college they founded on that campus,
four or five people, you don't even know how many people were raised from the dead. It seems
like it's remarkable. Like you might make a mark on the wall. Like we had a, somebody raised from
the dead. We should put a mark now. We shouldn't remember this. Uh, I don't know, four, maybe five
people, uh, you know, four or five people torn ACL in the football season last year. I'm not sure
which that's a little different than four or five people raised from the dead, but he didn't stop
there. He didn't stop there. He actually tells a story about a time he raised his own child from
the dead. It's a little, a little weird.
Well, my wife and I just got home from an overseas trip. And so we went to bed
about, I think it was two o'clock in the morning and at four 15, the phone rang and it was my
oldest son. And he said, dad, I'm sorry to tell you this, but he says, Peter, which is my youngest
son. He said, he, he just died. And so I asked him what happened. And I, I immediately had this
sermon that pastor Bob Nichols from Fort Worth, Texas had just preached.
And his sermon was the first reports, not the last report. And so that's immediately what I said.
I said, the first report's not the last report. I said, don't let anybody touch him till we get
there. And when we finally got into Colorado Springs and got to the hospital, it turned out
that my son had been dead for over four hours. And he was in a hospital morgue in a cooler,
stripped naked with a toe tag on. And when we got that call about 10, 15 minutes,
after that call, he just sat up and started talking. And by the time that we got in to
Colorado Springs, he was awake. He was totally alert. There was no brain damage, which we talked
to him later about this. And we were talking about how miracle it was. There was no brain damage. And
we didn't say anything at first. And he says, well, no more than I had before.
I mean, I'm all for miracles. Don't get me wrong. Like I believe in miracles. I believe God can
raise people from the dead.
And maybe this guy just has the magic touch. Maybe he's just out there raising people from
the dead left and right. But it's a little strange. It's a little strange, if we're being
completely honest. The TPUSA faith people that they tend to bring into their organization,
it's like they try to go out and find certain types of people that, frankly, a lot of people
look at and are like, I'm not sure this is the best representation that we have in the arsenal.
We have a lot of people that can give up their great motivational speeches. And we got a lot of
people that can get up there and encourage people in the faith or challenge them or convict them of
their sin. I don't know, man. It's weird. It's weird. It's weird. I'm sorry. It's weird. Do I
believe in miracles? Yes. Do I believe this guy doesn't know how many people were raised from the
dead on his campus? I don't know. Do I believe his son was dead for four hours? I mean, I went
through every possibility. Again, I always try to discount and prove myself wrong.
Maybe the kid wasn't dead. Maybe he was alive, but they thought he was dead and they stripped
him naked and put him in there. And then he woke back up. Maybe he's in a small coma or
heartbeat slowed down. I don't know. Maybe. But I just think if you're dead for hours,
rigor mortis is setting in. You're dying. You're dead. You're dead. I mean,
the reason you're in an ice slab is because you're starting to smell and you're starting to rot.
So, you know, I don't pull that clip to bang on the man. I pull that clip to just
ask, what is TPUSA faith doing? Like, what are they doing? Why are they going to these particular
places? The only reason this even landed on the radar for me is because they're going back to the
Bible college where Charlie Kirk was supposed to be the next day. And he didn't make it and they
didn't have a security plan. And I still want an answer for that. Who was going to go with him? Was
it just Dan? Why didn't Dan call ahead? Why didn't Dan arrange somebody else to help out with the
security that night? Why didn't he at least alert the chief of police and said, hey, we got a high
routinely and regularly and pretty much daily gets death threats against him. We're going to be in
town. You think you could maybe throw an officer our way while we're there speaking? So anyway,
that's it. This next story is weird. Weirder, believe it or not. Weirder. There's a guy that
used to work at PragerU. I used to get assaulted with clips from this guy all the time on social
media. And every time I rolled my eyes, Tucker the other day took a little bit of a heat for
going after Scott Pressler and saying, maybe that's not the manliest,
example we have on the Republican side. Like maybe we're abandoning this macho,
manly, Republican, conservative, you know, toxic masculinity. And maybe we're just kind of like
throwing up our hands and putting a more effeminate foot forward. This next guy is
even more effeminate than that, if we're being honest. His name's Xavier DeRusso.
Xavier DeRusso. That's actually one of the more masculine pictures I've ever seen of the man.
He filed a lawsuit.
He filed a lawsuit against PragerU. He filed it against the CEO of PragerU, Marissa Strait. She's a
IDF, you know, Mossad type figure, Unit 8200. I mean, she's, I have no idea why she's in control
of conservative messaging in the United States, but that's a different story. And she, he even
went on to sue other people because while he was working at PragerU, he says he was facing sexual
and racial discrimination, a hostile work environment and wrongful termination, all this stuff. Here's the
post-millennial Xavier DeRusso files a suit against PragerU over hostile work environment,
discrimination, and wrongful termination. They claim that PragerU knowingly placed him in an
unsafe position. A weird choice of language there on that sub headline. Now,
the lawsuit, if you go through the details, it's, it's pretty strange. It's pretty strange. I'm
going to go through the details before we go through some clips of Xavier DeRusso that sort of
undermine the claims, in my opinion. But he says he faced discrimination.
Because a colleague of his openly and repeatedly admitted he was racist.
This is somebody at PragerU.
Again, these are not proven claims.
I am not making these claims.
Candace is not making these claims.
This company is not making these claims.
I'm just telling you what the lawsuit says.
That at least one colleague at PragerU openly admitted he was racist.
That he could not stand black people.
That when he admitted racism, after he admitted he was racist,
he then made DeRusso stay in the same hotel room as him at a company event
and called him an F-word, a bundle of sticks, not a four-letter F-word,
but I guess a six-letter F-word, numerous times at an event,
that he was surrounded by seven men at an event one time
and called a genocidal F-word, same F-word,
and they attempted to physically assault him,
that he told the management about it,
that he requested some security,
and they denied the security.
They scoffed at his concerns, according to the lawsuit.
He said a different colleague, a lead producer there,
sent him a video with the file name Whodunit.
When Xavier DeRusso opens the video,
we will not show the video or the screencaps from the video
because it's pretty graphic.
It depicted Xavier DeRusso being taken down by live rounds.
That's what the video, AI, obviously,
but it depicted him being taken down by a live round.
They have screenshots of that video in the lawsuit.
It's pretty gruesome.
The screen reads wasted when DeRusso is taken down,
reminiscent of a popular video game called Grand Theft Auto,
but he said he was just basically ambushed by PragerU
over and over and over.
Well, okay.
PragerU responded, obviously.
They deny this, so we'll show the response.
I think it's fair to hear from both sides.
If you're going to say what one side said,
you should say what the other side said.
Here's PragerU's response.
They deny it, obviously.
Wholly rejects claims made by former PragerForce personality
Xavier DeRusso.
They do not tolerate discrimination of any kind.
They take appropriate action when necessary.
Many businesses, especially conservative organizations,
are often confronted with a kind of law failure,
aimed at destroying them.
Now reached our doorstep.
When resources intended for a mission are instead spent on litigation,
the mission suffers.
And given the awful state of American education,
PragerU's mission is more important than ever.
We therefore much rather devote our time, energy, and resources
to the millions of students of all ages whom we serve.
Having to devote time and resources as litigation is frustrating,
also strengthens our resolve to defend PragerU's good name.
So I felt like it was fair if we're going to mention the lawsuit,
We need to mention their response as well.
But we got to look at the merits of the claim.
Xavier DeRusso is saying that because he was Black, he was discriminated against at work.
Well, let's take a look in Xavier DeRusso's own words.
Being Black is a very easy life.
And people get mad at me when I say that, but it is so convenient being Black in America in 2024.
And that's because of the hard work that was put in by pioneers of the civil rights movement and people who actually worked to get the slaves free.
But, you know, Dr. West, every time he touches a mic, he talks like he's trying to still get the slaves freed when clearly he's just mentally stuck in the past.
And that's what I was trying to explain to him.
And I tried to do it as respectfully as possible as he's trying to put this narrative of white supremacy onto me and make me feel like there's all these obstacles that I have because of skin color.
If my perspective is single-handedly enough for me to avoid all these acts of racism that I'm apparently supposed to be drowning in,
then I think that that shows that it's a figment of your imagination.
And it's something that you just have some sort of PTSD on that you've chosen to have.
And that's not saying that there aren't racist people or racist circumstantial situations,
but there's not a single demographic in this country or in this world that has not been discriminated against.
So please cry me a river and get your life together.
I think that will be an exhibit in the defense.
I imagine, Prager, you will play that clip for the jury if this ever makes it that far.
It's pretty compelling.
Pretty compelling.
Being Black in America is easy, man.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
Being discriminated?
Who gets discriminated against?
Well, why did they hire this guy in the first place?
What are his politics?
Because he doesn't look or act very conservative at first glance.
So let's take a look at another video that may give us an idea of what sort of message he pushes that attracts PragerU.
Imagine supporting people who start wars just to lose the wars so they can cry about it and then try it all again.
You must see anti-Semites are literally obsessed with Jews.
Now walk with me.
While you must see anti-Semites are stacking eviction notices, Jews are out here stacking up businesses.
Jews control all the industries.
Maybe if you spent more time taking notes from successful people, you wouldn't have to spend your nights and weekends spreading hate from your anonymous account with an anime profile picture.
Do you work as hard as Jews?
Do you network like Jews?
No, because you're too busy cheering on a group of musty terrorists who smell like dirty earring backs.
And if we're going to keep it real, you're really mad because your income is giving signs.
You're a total white hustle.
Period.
How are you going to hate from outside Shabbat? You can't even get in.
Ha ha ha ha.
PragerU talent, ladies and gentlemen. He actually worked on a kids show for PragerU. He worked on a kids show. You see that drink he's holding? This oppressed guy that's constantly under attack now. Apparently constantly under attack at work.
That drink he's holding? We found it online. It's a $22 smoothie. That strawberry probiotic smoothie, or maybe it's that strawberry glazed skin smoothie. Can't figure out which one it is. Either a 21 or a $22 smoothie.
From a grocery store. Apparently I'm too poor to even have heard of before. Air Juan? Air Juan, I'm told. Air Juan. Air Juan.
So they provided him a really good life, I'll be honest.
If you're walking around, strutting around on town, banging on non-Jews for not working hard enough, you know, that's your thing.
But yeah, hosted a kids show. This is like, the guy makes Liberace look straight, and he's hosting a kids show for a conservative organization.
I'm very confused. I thought conservatives were his drag time story.
All right. I want to show a couple photos. I want to show a couple photos here because I don't think you've got a full grasp of what I'm talking about when I'm talking about the guy that conservative organizations,
have been pushing in front of your children. Here is Xavier DeRusso on Halloween.
Yes. Yes. In a cat suit. In a cat suit, ladies and gentlemen. Playing the Chris Tucker character from Fifth Element.
How about in his best Erica Kirk outfit? Well, it's kind of, it's not orange, but it's a glittered pantsuit. It's a glittered pantsuit.
How about just lounging? How does he, how does he, oh yeah, you got to lounge. I'm all about lounging.
I'm on a boat. Hey, there's no laws when you're drinking claws, just in case you're wondering.
No laws when you're drinking claws. This is, this is how he kicks back. Very oppressed young man.
What about how he feels about Donald Trump? You know, you know, most people go in the White House.
They, they handle themselves a certain way. They, they, they, it's an austere environment.
Well, unless you're, well, I'll leave that joke out, but it's an austere environment.
How does he act at the White House?
Thank you, Mr. President.
Notice he's the only one acting like that. I don't know. You know, you make of that what you will.
But not only that, he's on a boat. He's at the White House. How does he travel? How does a man like this travel?
An oppressed man that has to file a lawsuit.
He has to file a lawsuit. Oh, here we go. Yeah, we got to, hopefully he gets inside the plane before it takes off.
But you got to have your Louis Vuitton bag. You got to have your fancy suit on.
I don't know, man. I think the Republican part, you know, we're doing a lot in the, in the, the wake of the,
and I'm trying to leave the midterms behind, but we're doing a lot of, of come to Jesus-ing in the wake of the midterms.
Like, how do we get voters back in the fold?
Stop putting people like this in front of voters and telling them that they should become conservative Republicans.
Maybe start there. Maybe start there. Maybe man up a little bit. A little toxic masculinity goes a long way towards winning over young voters.
2024 was a huge toxic masculinity moment. Donald Trump was like a bull in a china shop, and he won young men overwhelmingly.
Then they put these guys out in front, and all of a sudden, young men go running for the other side.
They can't find the exit door fast enough. So while we're looking for answers of what's going wrong with the Republican Party,
maybe, maybe start there. We'll be right back.
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We'll get to the top comments from last episode.
A couple of programming notes before that, though.
I will be back tomorrow.
Next week, the schedule is going to shift back a day.
I've been doing Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
Next week, it'll be Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
So make sure your calendar's adequately updated
because I may forget to tell you and then people panic
and don't know where we are.
So make a mental note of that.
But top comments from last episode.
From Starkam, Erica immediately forgives him,
but wants a swift execution.
Make that make sense.
I'm very concerned by this because one of the concerns they have with the delay,
coming up, is that they're not getting justice for the family
and, you know, that they have so much uncertainty
and it's still holding out there.
Erica seemed pretty convinced within 10 days at the memorial service
that it was, in fact, Tyler Robinson and she forgave him.
And so, and he's in jail.
I mean, he's in solitary confinement.
I'm not sure, not sure why it matters at this point, frankly,
but we're neither here nor there.
Next comment from Valaine.
Valaine, I'm so grateful you speak legal and can explain.
I'm so grateful you speak legal and can explain.
Explain all this court stuff to us.
Thank you for, thanks for sharing your expertise.
Oh, you're welcome.
You're welcome.
Happy to, happy to help wherever I can.
Top comments from today's episode.
Autumn, welcome to the world.
What a gorgeous baby boy.
I agree.
I agree.
I could not agree more.
I hope delivery went smoothly and Candace is feeling well.
Congratulations to the family.
God bless you all.
And may you enjoy this time soaking in your newest edition.
Yes, congratulations to George and Candace.
All the siblings, man, the siblings are in smitten.
They're smitten.
It's beautiful to watch.
Curious cat attack.
First necromancy comment I've ever had in my life.
Live career.
Necromancy isn't going to resurrect T-R-U-S-P-A.
But honestly, but honesty and transparency could help them get into the light.
Christ is King indeed.
I don't know what all that means, but I agree with you.
I couldn't agree with you more.
Next one.
Fact-checking scribe.
Congratulations to Candace and George on the birth of baby Conrad.
Of course, of course, of course.
Mandy's uncle Baron in the house.
Congratulations, Candace and George.
Baby Conrad James is so handsome.
Is a handsome.
Very alert, too.
Very alert.
I've had eight of these kids.
I know what they're supposed to look like.
This one's, this one's wide-eyed.
Like he's looking around.
He's not letting the world go by.
He's soaking in every moment.
Soaking in every moment.
Kathy does flock shows.
Users connections to other users, much like LinkedIn does.
Not that we've been able to tell.
Not that we've been able to tell, but we're just cracking into this tool.
We're just getting going.
We've got a lot of people.
We want to run through this tool and see what, uh, see the extent of the connections.
Uh, good question though.
Good question.
Uh, mama llama, uh, wasn't e-force one established around the same
time as her flock accounts.
That's interesting.
Um, I think that time actually might add up pretty nicely now that you've been.
Mentioned it.
We'll have to go back and look at that.
Maybe we can bring that back up, uh, here in the near future.
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You get some of those six pointed winter star ornaments and decorations.
They look beautiful.
Everybody's Christmas tree is going to look better with a little
Candace on the Christmas tree.
So head over there.
It's a great way to support the program.
Great way to support the team here.
You can stop anti Candace ism.
Send a message to those anti-can.
Daddy.
Anti-can dice.
We will have none of you have none of you.
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You can get, uh, you can get the merch on mugs.
You can get it on, uh, ornaments, lots of great stuff.
Lots of great stuff over there.
So, oh, and sweatshirts and sweatshirts.
Everybody would look good in a substitute teacher sweatshirt.
And who doesn't want a, make him a hot dog, make him a hot dog shirt.
I will not believe the fed slop.
I don't know if I get caught believing the fed slop.
Why am I writing that out?
And that what you do when you get in trouble, that what Bart Simpson always had to do.
At the opening, I never believed the fed slop.
Ladies and gentlemen, I was not a fed slopper from the very beginnings of this.
I was not a fed slobber.
So head over to, uh, Candace Owens.com.
You can join the book club, all kinds of great stuff over there.
I appreciate you joining me, uh, again, scheduling update for next week, Tuesday,
Wednesday, Thursday, instead of Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
So keep that in mind, uh, going forward.
But, uh, in the meantime, have a good night, everybody.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The bullet jacket fragment timeline raises serious concerns about the chain of custody, with three fragments missing and no clear explanation for their disappearance.
The ATF received the fragments on September 11, 2025, after a plane journey from Provo to Maryland, suggesting an extremely tight and suspicious timeline that contradicts standard investigative procedures.
The fragments were photographed and analyzed over several days, with a four-day delay in processing, which undermines the prosecution’s claim of immediate and thorough investigation.
The defense was not provided with the full chain of custody documents or storage details for over six months, indicating a lack of transparency and accountability in evidence handling.
A suspicious pattern emerged when multiple individuals connected to the case—George Zen, Dr. Erica Kirk, and Tyler Robinson—registered on the Flock messaging platform after September 10, 2025, with no plausible explanation.
Tyler Robinson’s registration on the platform, months after being in custody, raises red flags about unauthorized access to his personal email and potential covert communication.
The timing and geographical inconsistencies in these registrations (Pacific time, central time, and post-incident) suggest possible coordination or access beyond individual explanation.
These anomalies—including the missing fragments, delayed reporting, and unexplained platform registrations—highlight systemic issues in evidence handling and warrant deep scrutiny in a capital case.
Summary:
The transcript details a critical examination of the Charlie Kirk assassination case, focusing on several troubling inconsistencies in the evidence chain. A central issue is the missing three bullet jacket fragments from the alleged 30-06 wound, with no clear explanation for their disappearance despite a timeline that appears rushed and unrealistic—specifically, the fragments were reportedly received on September 11, 2025, after a flight from Utah to Maryland, yet processed over four days with no immediate follow-up. The timeline raises alarms about potential mishandling, including a three-month delay in delivering the ATF report to the defense and a lack of chain-of-custody documentation for over six months.
This lack of transparency is further compounded by the discovery of multiple individuals—George Zen, Dr. Erica Kirk, and Tyler Robinson—registering on the Flock messaging app after the incident, with no plausible reason, especially given Tyler’s isolation in custody. The registrations, occurring in specific time zones and months after the event, suggest unauthorized access or coordinated activity.
These anomalies—combined with the prosecution’s failure to account for all fragments and the apparent alteration of evidence—point to systemic issues in evidence management and raise serious concerns about the integrity of the investigation. The overall narrative suggests a case riddled with inconsistencies that could undermine the prosecution’s claims of a clear, direct link between Tyler Robinson and the shooting. These unresolved questions demand rigorous judicial scrutiny, especially in a capital case where the stakes of error are extreme.
FAQs
The bullet jacket fragment is central to the allegation that Tyler James Robinson fired a .30-06 round from a rifle at Charlie Kirk. Its analysis is supposed to determine if the bullet came from the weapon owned by Robinson's grandfather, but the evidence and timeline raise serious questions.
Only four of the seven bullet fragments were received by the ATF. Three are missing, and their absence raises concerns about a potential cover-up or mishandling of evidence, especially in a capital murder case where evidence must be complete and transparent.
The fragments were reportedly sent from Utah to Maryland on September 11, 2025, via an FBI flight arriving at 5:08 PM Eastern time. The timeline suggests a rushed and suspicious transfer, with the fragments being photographed only after 6:30 PM and not examined until four days later.
The as-received photo shows the fragment in its original state, while the as-prepared photo shows it peeled back with pliers, altering its appearance. This suggests the evidence was handled and modified before the defense had a chance to examine it, raising concerns about evidence tampering.
The defense only received the finalized ATF report on December 18, 2025, nearly three months after it was completed. This delay suggests poor handling of evidence and possibly an effort to withhold inconclusive findings, which could indicate a cover-up.
Several individuals connected to the case, including George Zen, Dr. Erica Kirk, and Tyler Robinson, registered for Flock messaging accounts after Charlie Kirk's death. The timing and lack of explanation for these registrations raise questions about access, coordination, and potential cover-ups.
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