Who’s That Bucked Naked Cook? with Scoochie Boochie

(upbeat music) - Yo, what the fuck is up? Welcome to my favorite lyrics podcast where we talk about music lyrics, except for when we talk about other stuff. And today, we've got a very special guest. He was born from Oval Cano and he's the best rapper in the United States. Welcome to the show, it's Gucci Butchie. - Hey everybody, thanks for having me. That was a great intro. - That was awesome. - I remembered it being like a big part of a big part of your intro when I met you. - Yeah. - That was like a thing that really stood out to me. - Oh, the green male show. - Yes, yes, yes. - Scootie and I met Chicago earlier this year. I was there for a couple of weeks like shooting something. And I did, there's this show. If you live in Chicago, I'm sure you know about at the green mill on Saturday afternoons at like 1 p.m. - Paper machete, I think it's from like three to five now. - Oh, three to five? It's, yeah. - That's a variety show in Chicago, I think. - It was so tight, it was so fun. I had a blast doing it and it's like a variety show. So there'll be people doing like poetry and then people doing like, yeah, like you wrapped, there was a couple of people who like did music. Somebody like doing like, somebody will be doing characters. I did stand up and like, it's just so cool. - And it's in the green mill, which is like a historic jazz when you were like Al Capone used to hang out in this shit. So like just being in there, you feel very cool. - Yeah, and it's like, it's a packed out house. - I'm like drunk, Jen Xers. - I have it, I have it a blast. - Because it's a two hour show and to get a seat, you have to get there early. - Yeah, it's really in there for a minute. - If you're on at like 4.45, they're like, what's up, but they're lit, they're having a good time. - Yeah, it was a blast, but yeah, that's where we met each other. And then I had never, that was my first time seeing you. That was my first time becoming aware of you. And then we followed each other and I was like, oh, this guy's got like a lot of stuff going on. I was like, oh, this guy's like, you've been doing this for a minute. - Yeah, I've been rapping for 11 years and it's been paying off for about a year now. - And that's how it goes. - Yeah, that's how it goes, it like really can feel like, sometimes it can feel like it's forever away until it's like finally there. Even me, I feel like I've accomplished a lot, but I feel like there was a place that I'm trying to get that feels really close, but I'm like, not quite there. - Definitely, yeah, I just, I saw my friend last time I was in Philly who made some of my first beats, they're gonna go to college, but he's like, yeah, you just kind of went, you kept going way longer than a reasonable person would have. Like I was five albums in and then five more singles after that. And that was the song they like took off. - Interesting. - I just kept being like, no, I think it's good. I think it's good for like a decade and then finally somebody found it. - And people were like, you know what? - And then when they did find me, I was like, oh shit, okay, cool, I already made a bunch of stuff, you wanna see and I like, you know. - Which is honestly the best case scenario. - Yeah. - 'Cause I think about this all the time when it comes to artists where I was, I listened to a, I listened to a lot of young nudie. This guy from, you know, young nudie. And I heard him talk about it and they were just, he was just like, they were talking about his arc and they're like, are you ever like frustrated that you didn't get bigger faster? And he was just like, he was like, nah, not really. He basically was just like, he was like, there's some people who like, their first song they ever put out pops off and it's like a huge hit. He was up, but then like, you don't know who you are. He was like, I've been in this shit long enough that it's like, I know exactly who I am to like now that she's really starting to move. It's like, I know what type of stuff I like. I know what I don't like. I know like, what type of person in the industry, like I fuck with, I know what type of, like I've seen so many different types of situations and now in the moment is here. I'm like, very grounded in what I got going on. And it's both creatively and like personality was. Like they say you're your personality's frozen at whatever age you get famous for whatever. So like if I first thing a blown up as I was 23, A, I'd be out of ideas and I wouldn't know my formula. And B, I'd be a huge piece of shit. Instead I was humbled my entire 20s. I think about that. I now that I've been around more like people in the public eye, like I do, I actually, I give people grace now when like some people will be like, oh, like, can you believe in he's an asshole and he acts like this? I'm like, yeah, but yeah, they gave him like a millions of dollars when he was like 19. - I don't do it. - Of course he's acting wrong. How could you not? We all would. Like of course he'd be acting like a dickhead. - Yeah. - Cause life worked in a way that it never should have. And of course now you're walking around like your God. - Yeah. - Because like you, cause you're like, I beat every other guy. - Cause you got God's golden blessing. - You don't know exactly. - So you're like, yeah, you're like, I'm the most special thing in the world. A thing happened for me that happens for nobody. - Yeah, exactly. - So sometimes you don't want to get the thing too early. - I feel like the time is deeply feel that way. - Yeah. - And the people that I've met who got like the people I've met who like pop off when they're like 40 years old are always like very cool and very normal. - Yeah. - Because they really know what it's like to not be where they are. - Oh, yeah. I mean in the Chicago comedy scene like, so you saw like the best possible like Chicago variety show. I'm way more used to like a, there's eight people here and three of them are dating my improv team. - Of course. - So like when I get through, - And then a couple co-workers. - Yeah. - A couple of people who work in the office of somebody that's on the line. - Yeah. - So now when I show up to these concert venues we play now and they're like, "Yeah, sorry, take it too." It's only like 40 people. I'm like 40. That's gonna sound like multiple people. - Yeah. - Let's do it like, you know? - That's real. - I always think about like, when we talk about this, I always think about like as it was happening, I remember being like, man, I'm really, I'm worried for Lil Vasex. I hope he's okay. - Just how much people are? - It just, and it literally was like the first song he ever put out. - Yeah. - And it was like the biggest song of all time. - Yeah. - It was like, "Well, there's nowhere to go from here." Everything, if the first thing you do is the biggest thing anybody's ever seen, the only way you can go is down. 'Cause you won't make the biggest song every time. And so people can kind of only be like, "Oh, well, there's a fall off." - I was watching a video about Michael Jackson, even he had that where he's like, you know, he's three in a row of the biggest album ever. So then the next one is the only sales 140 million or whatever. - It's a let down. - He's tapering off. Clearly, interest is waiting in what he's got going on. - He had a certain height, anything less than that is a fall off, even though if it's still fucking enormous. - I like the level of fame I'm at right now where they only recognize me or want to take a picture with me if they know and like my stuff. There's a level above that that will not sit where it's like you, anyone, even if they don't give a fuck about it, you're actively just like you would still want a picture or some time. You know what I mean? - I think that's, yes. As a person who worked on a very famous television show. I don't think you know my name. - You don't think you know my name and I don't think you're really familiar with anything I've ever done, but you do know that I-- - You might pronounce my first name wrong, absolutely. You might think I'm Jay Ferro. That's a real possibility, and that's the thing that actually has happened. - That's why I never, even if I see someone famous, I have to be 1,000% sure that it's them. - Sure. - I saw you used to be an architecture tour guide on the Chicago River. That was my job before this. And one time I was going to be like, I was like, "Oh my God, I can't believe this is happening." That was my job before this. And one time I was giving it a tour and I kind of scanned it in the crowd. My brain goes mason plumbly. You feel the NBA? - Yeah, yeah. - My brain's like, "Brain's like, that's mason plumbly." I was like, "It can't be." And I was like, "Well, he's pretty tall. "I'll be sitting, I can't tell." But then I went in during a break and I asked my coworkers, "Can you check which plumbly that is?" 'Cause there was like six of them that played in the NBA. And they all look basically the exact same. - Similar names as miles and mason. I was like, "Make sure that's mason." And then he conferred me like, "Yeah, that's mason plumbly." And he was super nice, met him, took a picture with him, and whatever. Anyways, the thing that makes us a story is like two weeks later, my coworkers like, "Guess who's here, it's mason plumbly again." And I'm like, "Oh, what's up dude?" And he's like, "Yeah, I just liked it so much. "I wanted my friend to see a tour." I was like, "Oh cool. "Did you ask for me specifically?" He goes, "No." - He goes, "Yeah, he's like, "I'm fine with seeing you." But now it wasn't a special request. - Like, you could have said, "Yeah, that's fine." - I would have been nice to hear it from you Mason. - A year and a half, maybe two years after that, I'm filming a music video on a boat in the river. And the song is about how I used to be a tour guide and now I'm on tour. And as we're filming, we're going under a bridge, like right downtown, here's someone go, "Scoochy Boatch." I look up, it's fucking mason plumbly a third time. - Let's go. - Just crossing the bridge, and now he's found you from your actual work. - And the fact that, so like, I also made him follow me, I had these little cards on the tour that I'd give out that had like a QR code to all my shit. And I was like, "Please, if you don't mind." He's like a private account, like 400 followers. Like he's not like a-- - Oh, he's not even that author, like that. - He's just being nice. But the fact that he called out "Scoochy Boatch" from the bridge means he's been following me this whole time. - That's beautiful. - And it was just like, it's just amazing. And so now that's like the best part of the music video which we're still editing is like, it almost feels set up. Like the fact that he can't be crossing that bridge at the time. - It feels like he'll got in contact with his team. - And you were like, "Hey, can you do the staged thing?" You know, they like on the internet now, they do that thing where they like run up to you to make it seem like they're like-- - I did that yesterday, one minute interview. - I did that yesterday. - I mean, that's a lot of them now. - Yeah. - Hey, can I ask you a question? - Yeah. And it's like, what is that? - And they go to a different angle that clearly has been said. - Yeah. - There's already a lot of mic on them. - You know what I mean? - It's like, why do we need our content to seem accidental to like it? 'Cause like, it has to be like a set of-- Oh, it's a random chance encounter and this busker happened to have their fucking cello or whatever. And it's like, because if it's just someone be like, "Hello, I'm an artist. I try to really hard, we play this." - Skip, skip, get that the fuck out of here. I don't wanna listen to it. I'm not supporting anything you got going on. But if it's like, yeah, if they see you have to-- That's why now, the motherfuckers got to like, do like a cartwheel into a river and then be like, and then come out of the river and they have to-- No, they have to pretend like they fell in the river. And then they got to be like, I got a show coming up. You know, motherfuckers always start talking real quick. I got a show coming up and it's-- 'Cause please, please, please, please. I know you came here for the river stuff. I know you thought I hurt myself in the river, but now that you realize that I didn't hurt myself in the river, can you please come up? I got a show in Portland this weekend and it's like, and it's like the more obscure, the town and the venue, the better. It's like, I'm gonna be in Denton Alabama at the shitchack. You get-- - Yeah. - The shitchack. Look, in the stand-up world, you will be at the shitchack. - You probably get those comments too. It's like, you gotta come to like La Goe, Louisiana. And you're like, who, where? And they're like, I know of a place. - Yeah. - They think that just you finding out about that place will be enough to like, book it. - To get me out there and-- - You should play Fenway and I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? - No, I shouldn't. I could do that. I could do that, but it just be me and you in there. (laughs) - There's some people in Sarasana. We might just be the only ones in that venue. - Yeah, if you gotta come to Louisville, Kentucky, I'm like, I don't know if I gotta. - You can find out a lot about the vibes in different cities by watching illegal NBA streams, because it doesn't leave the arena during the halftime entertainment, and for instance, like the Warriors dance crew is amazing. Salt Lake, the dance team, little wooden. - Yeah, that makes sense. - They might have to import 'em. They might have to pull some of those girls from Vegas. - They're like, there's no ass in this zip code. - We know, we had to do our best. We had to find, these are the three best Mormons we could find in the state, and we pay them more than average rates just to-- - Leave it up for the sister, wow. - They were doing spelling challenges with fans, and then I changed to the Hawks game, and they were like, it's Booty Meat Night, it's Booty Meat and Wings Night at the Atlanta Hawks stadium. - I was like, all of you feel it. Gucci Mains here. - Gucci Mains here performing his song, Trap Anthem. - Dude, there was one time they had 21 Savage doing the halftime at the Hawks game, and his mic or whatever was off, so that in the house, it sounded completely out of time, and I was like, that's my nightmare. So I went to Calvin College, which is a D3 school, but they have a bunch of evil conservative money, so they have the biggest arena in D3. It's like bigger than a lot of D1 arenas. It's like really nice. - To people pack it up, to a lot of people. - Only for our rivalry game against Hope College, else it's a fucking ghost town. And so then one time they were like, 'cause I was doing improv and stuff, I was like a comedy guy on campus, and they're like, oh, you should host the pepper, I think. Same thing, I'm like on the court with a mic, and I just hear my voice feel like five seconds later coming back, and I'm like trying to do jokes, but there's music playing and people shooting around. I'm like, this is a fever dream. Certain spaces, you just can't do a word performance. - The types of ways that I feel comfortable letting comedy performers perform. It's how you know it's not a respected art form. The way in which people have been like, you should do a comedy show here, and then we pull up, and then it's a sports bar where the stage is between two pool tables, and then they've got Monday night football playing in the background with some of the volume on. And they're like, yeah, just, you know, I'm like, well, do you want to turn the TV off? And they're like, no, no, no, guys are here to watch that. - Yeah, and I'm like, okay. - You came up, you're in Grand Rapids. - So, I passed around, I'm originally from Blacksburg, Virginia, Texas. - Okay. - Virginia Tech is. - Yeah. - My dad taught there. - Go Hokies. - Exactly. And then, yeah, you got the, that's the ACC app. - You're from Texas. - I bought this on tour in Pittsburgh. I like, I thrifted it, and I just thought it was really good. - They got nice campus, I was just up there. - I didn't go on the campus, but I passed by it. It does look nice. - Yeah, but yeah, so Blacksburg too, and then went to school in Grand Rapids over there for five years, and then Ben Chicago ever since. - Got you. - Yeah, so about so. - And when, where'd you start rapping? - In still in school, so actually speaking of the evil conservative money, I was a lab aide for the film program, and so I had access to the really nice audio studio, and that's where I recorded my first two songs. I like Bluts and I smoke weed in the DeVos Communication Center. - Yeah. - Like the Betsy DeVos, those DeVos. - That DeVos, yeah. - And a professor walked in while we were doing it, and I was like, "Titty's on, what's up?" (laughing) And he's like, "What are you doing?" And we're like, "A project." And he's like, "Okay." - Did you go to this really religious school because you were really religious? - Yeah, so my, so okay, so my grandparents met there. They had five kids who all went to Calvin, the youngest of whom is named Calvin, and that's my dad. - Ah, so you're really, it's really, it's in the bloodline. - Yeah, and I was like, they gave me like, like a legacy scholarship, 'cause I was like, third generation, $500. I was like, "How many centuries?" - It's not the right amount. - We have to go here. - Yeah, they said, "Maybe your great grandson could get 1,000 if he acts right. If that GPA looking good, we'll give him a rack." - Yeah, but until then. - Or until the rap shit pops off. - Yeah, exactly. - You know what I'm saying, once you do Finway, then they'll be like, "You know what?" - You know what? $5,000 scholarship. - Yeah, ooh, thanks. - Yeah, go ahead and put that down. Yeah, it does cost $90,000 to go to the school. - Yeah, but yeah. - So yeah, and then I got, that's where I got into improv and got out of church. And then that's where let me do Chicago, but I sort of had the rap and the improv thing going, and then when the pandemic hit, all the improv stopped, and I was like, "Let's just go full rap, basically." - Got you. - Okay, okay, so you're doing improv in Chicago, and then, okay, yeah, that makes sense. How does, coming from this, like, what I'm imagining, like, very Christian family, how are they feeling about how horny all you're rapping? - They are really great, nice people that I have a good relationship with. And I always feel like, I asked for this attention, and they didn't, so I'll just leave 'em out of it, but they're sweeties. - I feel, I feel, you know what I said? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So, yeah. - Yeah. - The question then, just about you. - Yeah. - Are you as horny of a guy as your rapist? 'Cause as your rapist would presume that you are. - It was, when I started, it was a lot more speculative. - Okay. - It was like, "Wouldn't it be crazy if I fucked?" (laughing) - Imagine. - Yeah, you know? I think I've spent a lot more time writing about how I get laid than trying to. - Interesting. - Okay. - Like, on a given Friday night of my 20s, I'm more likely to go home and make a banger about how I fuck than to go out to a bar and try. - They'd actually do it, I see. - Okay. - 'Cause I'm better at writing about it. (laughing) - I feel that. - You know? - I feel that. - And to that point, because of the songs, because of the horniness of the song. - Yeah. - Does that bring out a certain energy at the shows? Or is there a certain type of lady who's like, "Hey, I heard all these tracks, let's see what's going on." - Occasionally, but more often, my DMs are from guys trying to smoke in the parking lot. - Of course. - I think a lot of my audience is actually very coupled. It's a lot of millennials that seem like they're like in a good relationship. - That's beautiful. - A big bearded guy. And a lot of times, it's like a really weird kind of busted looking dude and like a really hot cute girlfriend. - Tails all this time. - And I'm like, maybe that's sort of the archetype. 'Cause like, I'm doing my like, I'm a weirdo thing, but like imagine if I had a baddie and I think they're kind of already living that. - Oh, and then people are looking for connection in the music. And they're like, "Yeah, no, this is my life." - Yeah, I'm like this guy. - So I'm open to the idea that people are like, "Oh nice, he fucks, let's fucking." But a lot of times it's more just like, my boyfriend loves your stuff. - I'm like, "Thank you." - It is interesting, like, it's interesting like when you become like public, when people start to know who you are, the way that I thought everybody's DMs were the same. You know what I'm saying? I thought everybody's DMs were the same. And then when I was like, when I was working at SNL, like it would really be like me and then like somebody else and then like James Austin Johnson. And we could all open our DMs and be like, "Oh, this is really different." Chad would truly be like, his would be like, guys being like, "Hey, I heard you play this video game. I saw you wear this hat from this movie. Like I have it on VHS if you want me to send it." - Yeah. - It's so fun. - That's fine. - And I was just like, "Oh, okay, so that's okay. We all got different varieties." - Dude, that is the trippiest thing about having a fan base is you see yourself reflected back at you in a thousand little pieces. You're like, "Oh, I'm a nerd. Okay, I kind of suspected, but like, it's D&D. They're making custom-magic the gathering cards of me." - Whoa, that's it. - They're really creative. Someone play magic the gathering? Like I dabble, but like-- - But people are assuming that you're deeper in it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like someone just, a few shows ago gave me like a crocheted wizard hat, like they're like knitting and stuff. They're very crafty. So like they're definitely about want to hang out with, but it's, and also weird dynamic where it's like, I'm primarily there to like do my job, make sure that I keep doing my dream and stuff. And so like, if they're like a huge fan, I'm definitely not trying to like flirt or anything. - Yeah, you never-- - That's, if they like name drop like a deep cut, I'm just like, okay, this is a customer. Hello, professional. So like, that's, and that's really smart. - If anything, it has to be like a friend someone brought who like just found out about me tonight. - Okay. - Maybe that makes tends to make more sense, but sometimes it's just like, oh, let's just, let's-- - You're a little too, you're a little too deep bar. You know a little bit too much about me for us to be like, yeah, starting off on a level point. - And also we can't interact as people, because you think of me as Scoochie Boochie, not like Michael the Human, it's part of it, you know? And also that character is an asshole. Like canonically, Scoochie Boochie is a deadbeat dead with so many illegitimate children they formed a space fleet called the baby mama Armada. - What? - There's Laura. - No, I was, okay, I was not this deep. I was not this deep on the Scoochie Boochie story. - So yeah, there's, I have six albums, starting with my third one, The Lost City of Atlantis. There starts being these like skit interludes. Many of which are voiced by it. - Say that title one more time. - The Lost City of Atlantis. - There it is. - The premise of that one is that there's a legendary island paradise where the women get so thick that the island sank into the sea. So I buy a luxury submarine shape, like a microphone to go look for it. - Incredible. - And so that's where the lore starts. And then my fourth album, Sunrise at Dawn in Space, is about how I'm trying to fuck the sun. Just trying to get up into the stars. - Do you, do you, do you make it there? - And I do, I do make it there. But no spoilers as to what happens then. - Okay. - And then go ahead and run them streams up. - I'm, I'm just gonna get through the big, big overarching picture of the lore here. So then in the course of the space album, I have a song called "I'm Too Fertil" and it's talking about how like I can literally just like grab like a, like a churro at a restaurant and then like brush someone's hand and they get pregnant. Like that's how fertile I am. So then as a result, I have so many illegitimate children and baby mothers, they form the baby mama Armada. So they're pursuing me for trillions and child support. - Really? - But I have a vision of like my, my long lost dad locked away in a high stone tower, which leads to my fifth album, "Dad Quest", which is like a high fantasy album, but instead of rescuing a princess from a high stone tower, it's my dad. Also my mom's a volcano, magma. You were born from a volcano, yes? - Oh, yeah. - The human father and a volcano mom named magma. So the implication being that your dad was getting busy with the volcano, your dad's. - Which is Dick first in the volcano. - That's how I picture. - Yeah. (laughing) - I think they do that in an episode of "Shapel Show". - Yes. - Someone just told me about that. - Yeah. - I think he fucks a volcano at some point. - Yeah. - And then my sixth album that just came out [BLANK_AUDIO] drinking fountain of youth, and that's where a previous character, the Dr. Anthony Purple Poop, he's been, I'm love saying all of the straight face. Yeah, no, you have to. I haven't recap this succinctly before, so this is probably useful for some of my fans, but he came up with a weed strain called Eternity Purple, which is so powerful it allows for space travel. So all of the spaceships in the scoochyverse are powered by a hybrid drive with a little nugget of Eternity Purple in it. He made a edible out of that and became unstuck in time, so he's like time hopping, so this new one's like a time travel out, but I'm trying to help him. I had no idea how deep all this went. I had no idea. I had kind of, yeah, I had kind of just, from what I had taken from it, I was like, oh yeah, this guy's doing kind of like a deep one, like funny sex wraps. And I was, but good ones though, you're wrapping well on them. Thank you. You're wrapping well on them. But like, yeah, I was like, oh, this is like, they're doing, this is silly. I didn't realize there was a whole world behind it. That's the funny sex wraps get him in the door and then I'm like an archivist with a swinging lantern and I'm like, follow me and I take him down into like the deep dank like library of like shit. Whoa. Okay. No. I had no idea. This, you might be the first, you might be the first person to be making, to be making like, like, like concept albums for fucking. Yeah. Yeah. Horny concept album is a pretty way of putting it. Yeah. Yeah. I approached it as like, you know, we love rapper's stories like M&M's from a mile. Jay-Z was a drug dealer. And my actual story as we've discussed is pretty milk toast like a winter liberal arts college. But what I know is sci-fi and fantasy and characters and scenes and stuff. So I've been taking kind of a magic treehouse approach. Should we read those books? I do. Yeah. So it's kind of like each album is like a, you know, Dolphins, a dawn type of shiver. It's like built around a theme, but then there's a story that connects all of it. Okay. I'm in pretty deep, man. Yes. I'm seeing that. The world builds around this. Yeah. Well, let me ask you, like, is there, is obviously you're like wrapping as a character? Is there, is there any of you in Scoochy Bouchy? The line is more blurred than ever because especially when I started, it was really funny to be in these comedy shows with just six people in the audience and being like, I'm the best rapper in the United States and I fuck all the time and those things are clearly not true. Yeah. But now those two things are slightly closer to being true than they were before and now there's people that are there to see me on purpose. So weirdly, it's less of a funny bit now to say that like, I'm the best and people that are actively cheering for me and I think it's weirdly as now that there actually is an audience, I feel less inclined to do the braggadocious out there stuff and I'm starting to shift a little more like here's how I actually think and feel and get a little more like personal with it. So that's been a fun kind of transition or whatever. Do you feel like, do you feel like there ever would be a time where you would like separate the personas and be like, all right, like now I'm wrapping as Michael and Scoochy Bouchy is a different day? I think it's too blurred at this point. I think if I'm wrapping, it's got to be Scoochy but Scoochy's got a lot more me in it than it used to. It used to be completely separate or whatever and now it's, yeah, it's got a little more of my actual stuff in there. I also want to say I have a real appreciation for the amount of like synonyms for penis that you found. You've got quite a bit like, you know what I'm saying? You've found so many ways to make to make the word interesting. Thanks. You, when you said I got dumb dangler, we have shorts that say that by the way. Hey God bless. Hey, go ahead and go and go and cop that merch. Scoochy Bouchy.com. Scoochy Bouchy.com. Go ahead and cop that merch. I was like, whoa, you ever have to like, to me, so many, so many great ideas are right there. So many great ideas. You ever have that like in comedy or like we're like, there's been sometimes where I like here I got to do a joke and I'm like, that was there for all of us right there. We all had that. It was right there, but like I never saw it until like you said in some song sound like that too. I was just googling a bar to see if anyone had done it because it feels like it's right there. Money so long, like a farewell. Has anyone ever done it? Because I googled it. I couldn't find that exact line. It was possible, but it feels like the kind of thing someone would have said. You would think, but like honestly, to be honest, that's what I thought about this specific podcast. I like came up with not in like a funny way. There's like no comedy version of this. That like doesn't exist. There's a lot of like really like earnest, like serious music distractions that like I've listened to and like shout out Cole Kushner from Disects. We honestly, I didn't tell you this, Carmen. We DM something. We might get him. But he lives in Sacramento. So we got to guess we got to go to the sack. Yeah. That's that might do. That's a new album title. We're going to, we're going to, we are our way to the sack. I can't turn it off. Yeah, and it's about how school she went to Sacramento, but also, but Sacramento is a planet that's also like a like a scrotum planet. I don't know. I was just like Sacramento because I hooked up with a lady and then afterwards I noticed she had a tattoo out of her butt that said nerf her nothing. Nerf? Nerf her nothing. And she's like, yeah, me and two of my friends and two random ladies all got this same tattoo on vacation. So there's two of my best friends and two people I'll never see again. I'll have the Nerf her. That's beautiful. I was like, I think I'm in love, man. Yeah. Yo, Nerf or nothing lady, if you're listening and know that you are, we're proud of you. We're proud of you. Keep doing your thing. You made my life. Wherever you are. I hope you're happy. And I hope you're experiencing a lot of joy in the sack. Scoochee, let me ask you as a, as a young scooch, what were you, what were you listening to? So because of my very religious upbringing, a lot of the first rap artists I heard were Christian rap artists. And shout out to La Cray. Oh, you know. You know. I also grew up very Christian and they try to, they try to put La Cray on you in a big way. Everybody, if you grow up really Christian and you're, how old are you? 32. Okay. We're about the same age. If you grew up and you're like around that age, let me, let me, and you're really Christian, let me tell you there are going to be some people who try to put La Cray on you heavy. He was the best. The hat. Basically. And they, and they always are like, it's pretty much the same, right? That's, they're always getting crunk in this on the way. Exactly. That was the end parentheses. Good crunk. They're always trying to be like, I remember being in a like middle school and like a little John and stuff like that was popping off and they're, and I went to this, I've talked about this on the podcast. I went to this like Christian camp in Missouri where they didn't allow us to sing secular songs. And if you sang secular songs, you had to run, you had to be punished by running. And then if you didn't run, they wouldn't let you speak 100% true. It was called Kids Across America. I went when I was like 13 or 14. And I remember like, of course, I remember our Kelly Trapp and the closet was really big during that time. And we were singing that and they were, we would have to run for it. And I remember them being like, hey, why don't we put on this La Cray album? Why don't you put on this La Cray album and then you can sing that. And now remember, I think in shot, La Cray is probably an incredible dude shout out, but I remember it's just at that age, you just want to like the shit that's cool. And anytime anybody's like, no, hey, have this alternative, you're like fuck that. And that's the thing is like, I was so sheltered that like I would only find out years later, which secular rappers, these Christian rappers were imitating. Oh, you were that deep. I was like, oh fuck, like Grits is just outcast, but they're both big boy. Yeah. You remember the song "Ula" by Grits? Yeah, that was doing big numbers in my environment. That was getting put on quite a bit. And honestly, that song, that sounds good. That's how it's good. And I would still listen to it today. And if you listen to the cross movement, they were like, they were going for like Christian Wu Tang. They were kind of just like a bunch of New York guys. I hate that sentence. Christian Wu Tang. That made me mad. Protect your neck with the crucifix. Oh, God. I don't know. There probably is a cool Christian rapper out there somewhere, but it's just such a, it's such a difficult line to walk to like be a cool Christian rapper and not make me want to grit my teeth. As a touring rapper, I have sympathy for those guys when I think about the tours they had to do, because they had to perform for sober audiences, probably in churches, trying to get them hyped. I have a hard time getting my crowd hyped and they're like fucked up in a place where there's buzz to be. Yeah. Just ever just sober. It's like sober with like cushioned pews and stuff. Everybody jump up for Jesus. Yeah, it hurts. Okay. Well, that's the first song I picked is extremely painful in that regard. So this is going to, this one's going to piss you right the fuck up. Look at that perfect segue. You're welcome. Don't fight. Don't play. I've been doing this for a little bit. Yeah. Let's, we've, we've got your songs, where would you like to start? So let's talk, let's talk about, I don't want it by DC talk. So a name that I'd not heard in question. Featured on that, that grid song, who is an artist named Toby Mack, who is formerly a member of a boy band slash rap group called DC talk. And this song is an abstinence jam. It's like your sort of classic like 90s hip hop, like you'd be doing like choreo to it kind of beat. But they're just talk the hook is I don't want it your sex for now. It's like a parenthetical because they're like obviously we will fuck but it has to be the confines of marriage and they're trying to get you hype about that. It's just go into the lyrics, go on, there's also a really confusing element that I want to hear where there's like someone's calling in a little radio and addressing someone as red leader. So for no reason, they're also pilots in this one. So they're like, I guess flying X wings or something, they're doing they're being pilots the most fuckable job that you could possibly only are they yeah rap boy band guys. They're like, let's add another layer of people want to fuck us were pilots. - We still don't want it for now. (laughing) - And I'd be bumping this on my CD Walkman in the car on the way to Hunger Mother State Park in Virginia, just like, "Ah, don't want it." - How old were you at this time? - This is like late elementary school probably. - Okay, so a time where it's like, that's actually a perfectly fine way to feel it. - You're like, "Yeah, that does sound terrifying." - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the idea, absent, as somebody who grew up like a really Christian kid, the idea of like being absent, it really like, it didn't, it truly, I was like, "Yeah!" until I hit puberty, and then I was like, "Absolutely not." (laughing) I was like, "As soon as somebody wants to fuck me, I will do it, and you can't convince me that's wrong, and I won't, I never will buy into that." I will rock with a lot of what other stuff y'all got going on, but I'm not, no, I'm not getting married when I'm fucking 21 till like the first girl that I'm not doing it, I will be fucking, as soon as someone's interested in that, which took some time, but once that day came around, I see that opportunity. - I saw that, I saw that. - I see that opportunity immediately. - Did they ever, you ever hear about a book called "Every Man's Battle?" - I don't think so. - Now this is gonna make, this is gonna make you wanna crawl out of your skin, this is an anti-mastervation book. - Of course. - That was written by a former Stanford backup quarterback, basically being like, "I used to get the most pussy," and then I decided that was bad. - I talk about this, I talk about this all the time, I've probably talked about this on this podcast, I definitely talked about it on Caleb's, the thing when you grow up really Christian, I've talked about this in a bunch of different places, but a guy like that, who was like, 'cause that guy, if you're like, if you go to Stanford, that means you're a high school football star, and they'll be talking about that, and they'll be like, "Yeah, I used to be with a different girl every single day, and I would score touchdowns, and drink beer, and ride a motorcycle." And then some days I'd drive around in my Corvette, and I was getting topped off in the Corvette, and then one day I was getting head from the most beautiful women in our town, and I said, "You know what, no, I'm giving this lifestyle up, I said it's time to live for Christ, and I'm always like, "Wait a second, the sin sounded awesome." And you already got to do all of it. Yeah, exactly, and you already did it, and I haven't got to do it yet, and you're telling me not to do it? Fuck you, Doug, you're not on my side. You don't want me, you was living my dream life, and you want to tell me that it's bad, now that just 'cause you're 45, no, I'm not, no, you're not going to convince me, I'm not doing that. That's gatekeeping. Exactly, pulling the ladder up behind you. At least let me live like that for a couple of years. It's like they say, money can't buy happiness, it's like, well, money hasn't bought anyone happiness yet, but I've never had money, so maybe. Let me see, just let me get a peek behind that curtain, let me see what that sadness feel like. I thought I could figure it out. 'Cause right now I know the type of sadness where I got a biobodega sandwich and split it up for a whole day, and that's my meal. I sort of a sandwich sadness. Yeah, that kind of, and that's kind of, and I'm walking around with my headphones, just kind of thinking about how I wish I could eat something different. I'm making a decision between, between, between either taking an uber or eating dinner tonight. I'm experiencing that kind of sadness, so maybe, let me experience kind of the, I have everything, but it's ultimately empty sadness. I'll trade that in. A hundred percent. I'd trade that sadness. Young Thug is one of my favorite tweets of all time, where he says, "Bitch, you want to cry on a Range Rover "or on the bus?" Well said, well said. You know, like many things, I was like, "Wow, you communicated so much with so few words." A real economy of language. You know, one of my favorites, Thug. Yeah. Thug, if you're listening, we know that you are. Come to the show. Come on. I'll talk to you about anything. I think, I think you're one of our great artists. Sure. My Wi-Fi name is named after a young Thug lyric. Which one? It's from that song, "Franchise" that came out during the pandemic, and just at the beginning of his verse, he just goes, "Yep, call to sprite people." That's just happening. Yup, call to sprite. That's just a work email. And I was like, "About what?" And he doesn't, and he doesn't elaborate. What do you, I don't, I'm so curious. What he wants to talk to the sprite people about. But yeah, he just says, "Yep, call to sprite people." And that's been the name. That's been named by Wi-Fi. It's the name of my-- That's beautiful. My headphones, my AirPods, are called to sprite people. My favorite Thug lyric is from the song you did with Jamie XX. I know there's going to be good times, yeah. I'm a rat in the pussy, like a stroller. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome, genius. Genius, top level. Because it's like, no one-- he's just always saying shit that you're like, no one else could have said this. Yes. No one else would think to say this thing. That's something I really strive for and, like, when, as I'm, as I'm writing stuff. You've got that going on as well. Is, like, I assign myself points. If either, it's a thing that it sounds like a real thing, someone would actually say, and it's phrase very naturally, that's good, or it's a thing no one has ever said. Yeah. That's another way where I'm like ding, ding, ding. I like this. Because I think there's just so much more we can wrap about. Like, my early stuff, I was writing, sort of, like, take a normal wrap-trop, I smoke weed, and then just take it to the furthest extent. But, literally, I've been showing, like, songs from the perspective of a prospector, or, like, a dinosaur, or whatever. But then, within that, I still execute it well, and have, like, a hard beat. And then, also, at the end, it kind of turns into, sort of, a commentary on something about real life. Like, the prospector one is a little bit about, like, crypto guys, and, like, American greed and stuff. But it's also, so I'm about a prospector. But it's also bars, and the beat is really hard. So it's, like, I just think that's the reason I picked a ASAP rock song. He's, like, I saw this graph one time of just, like, variety of word choice across a rapper's entire catalog. And his data point was, like, in the Steph Curry's spot, where it's just, like, no one else is doing this. Because he's just talking about, like, necklaces made of bones, and, like, just shit that no one is ramping about. Since we're talking about it. So this is a song, "Tuesday." Look at that fucking transition. Yeah, I got a podcast, too. Holy smokes, we smoke, we can tell Bob's stories. Check it out. Go ahead and check it out. And I'm just hosting now. I'm up all over. No, go for it, man. Go crazy, have fun. So this song is, I used to listen to this every Tuesday. Am I really boring off his job? Because the hook is just Tuesday's Tuesday. But this is ultimately a song about how he and his apartment are gross, which is not something you're going to normally hear. No, not 95 or something. I can't even keep a cactus alive when I'm present. When I'm gone, it's a groundbreaking botanical epic. From desolate to little shop of horrors in a second, it's weird knowing life thrives more when you exit. So he's saying, like, when he comes back to his apartment, it's an overrun with plants. Headlight's dressed like a douchebag, unsaid prayers, undead raccoon hat. Fixed skulls still throw his toys at his jowler. His black roof tar, bleed flat cherry coke. Very much another whack job with a megaphone. Very much another fat slob playing chess alone, lesser-known fetish porn, leftover Lexopro, et cetera. OK. OK, yeah, I've gotten an appreciation for this because it's like-- I mean, I never really got really into Asap Rock. But I really like-- I remember finding artists like this when I was like a teenager, and really having an appreciation for it because I was like, man, I can't listen to somebody talk about being awesome all the time. Exactly. And that is like-- And obviously, that's so much of what rap culture is. You're talking about how you're the best at everything all the time. But I was just like, yeah, and I like that a lot of times. It's like, I grew up listening to a lot of Kanye and a lot of Jay-Z and a lot of Lil Wayne. That's what they talk about. They talk about how fucking awesome they are. But I was like, every now and again, I really want to listen to somebody talk about how they stepped in gum earlier. And now all their steps feel a little sticky. That's something. And then-- and they can't really quit quite all the way to get the piece of gum off. And they've got a rock in their shoe. And also, they send a risky text, and it didn't succeed. They sent a text, and then they got left on red. And now they're just kind of sitting with that all day, but acting like it's not bothering them. Or they got a DM from a baddie. And then when they responded it, the baddie screenshot it, and put it in their story and said, look, what Tuma Moses has me doing. [LAUGHTER] Hypothetical example. She said, come freestyle on Dispussy. And I said, is this real life? And then she just screen-shed it and put it under story immediately. And I was like, it's not as embarrassing. It's only a little embarrassing for me. It's kind of embarrassing for you, but-- Did she post that it was you? Yeah, oh yeah. She's like, no. It was very much like, look, he responded to me saying-- That's so mean. Yeah, it didn't feel great. Fuck. Yeah. That is a hilarious story. Also, I didn't really say it. I just went, you sure? And then she was like, ha, ha, I got you. And I was like, I was honestly just asking if this was real. I really, I'm so curious to know. Was this like a known IG baddie? Or she was kind of like a hot girl who's on the internet? And she had like a, like a, probably like, 20,000 vlog or something? OK, she got something going on. Yeah. Because while I was at Electric Forest and I had done a show the night before, I seriously-- I was like, certainly people are, you know, fucking around here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the mulch. And you're trying to-- yeah, it's like, what else you got going on? Yeah. And the uniform of that festival is buttfully out. So I was like, I just assumed fucking-- Yeah, like, this seems like something. Something could go down, if I play my cards, right? And I was like, wait, I'm sleeping in a tent in the performer's campground. I don't-- I don't know. You never know? Crazy your things have happened. Yeah. Man, hey, whatever-- hey, that woman who did that to Scoochee, if you're listening, we know that you are. We're not really happy with what you got going on. You're not a friend of the pot. You're not welcome here. You can't. You can't come. And honestly, if you are listening right now, stop. I don't want to listen to her like you. We don't even want those pennies. Yeah, we don't want that quarter of a sense that we're getting for your listen. We're not interested in that anymore. I want you to go ahead and take your headphones out. If you're in the car, change it to something different. Go listen to-- listen to NPR. Listen to fresh air. Listen to how to trick a nice man podcast. Yeah, because that's the type of shit you interested in. That's what you like. Yeah, that's the type of shit that you like. You a mean person. I'm not-- we offer you. Thank you. And you know who you are. I need friends like this. Yeah. You brought a song of the three songs. It's the one that I have most of a relationship with. And an incredible song. Here's what I'll say. He actually has not come up on the show as nearly as much as he should It's about time shout out to ludicrous ludic. I don't think that like if you're under maybe 27 you probably don't really know how Hot of a situation he had going on. Yeah, he was the fucking man for like four or five years as a long run For back especially for back then. Oh, yeah now with the internet I feel like you can stretch your situation now, but like back then you used to get like two albums Yeah, if it was popping you a lot of guys got one album with like one or two hits on it and then they were gone They used to happen all the time. Yeah, so to have like and he had a crazy like four or five year run where he Hit after hit after hit and this is one of his like singles is one of my favorite ludicrous. Oh, yeah. Scoochie take it away roll out my business Like a news anchor roll out my business Was the free song of the week on iTunes remember when that was a thing of course and as and this was probably I was in like eight or ninth grade so still very much in kitchens go wherever so it was like one of the first little of like You know secular rap that I got to hear and it was like blew my mind Who's that which I thought it was fucking naked cook apparently the official lyrics are bucket naked cook that don't feel right I've gotta be fucking always got to who that cuz he says it so it sounds so who's that fucking naked cook You're cooking three course. Come on. Go ahead. You fix it three. Yeah, fix it in three course meals I will say reading lyrics on paper with no beat because like rap it's it's music So it's kind of the equivalent of just like reading guitar tabs like this guy said f sharp g-flat You know what I mean? So it's never gonna be like getting goose bumps when her body taps the six inch heels What in the world is in that room? What you got in that room? Yeah, I love that part I also love what in the world is in that bag. Yeah, the way he delivers it is amazing, and also yeah, what is in that room in that bag? What kind of stuff you got what what what do you have going on? Because that's really that's the whole song is like I heard you got all this cool shit like can I see it cuz there's so many songs that are like look at the cool shit I have but he's like walking into somebody else's house being like oh What is it and what is it and then turns out in that room? We've got a couple of cats sure couple of knives bit of a step down a couple of rats That's our good. You won't want either the snitches or the animals a couple of wives Now it's time to choose I got my twig like 40 roll out great beat We looked it up. It's Timberland me my buddy. We're talking about yesterday. It's a Timberland beat No, so yeah tracks just destroy that air hole amazing stuff PlayStation 2 up in the ride. I love when you contract time based on consoles You know roughly that this so PlayStation 2 is cutting edge when this came out. I know exactly when this was I had a PS2 as well So it's like well that part me just came out. Yeah me and Lou to sort of had a little something common. Come on Yeah This is my favorite part of this song. Go ahead. This is my favorite part of the song roll out by Ludicrous He goes now tell me who's your house keeper. What are you keeping your house? What about diamonds and gold is that what you keep in your mouth beautiful? Ridable that's it this song came out when I was like not. Yeah It's kind of like he's helping someone with their taxes and you all right So yeah, we're gonna need to keep track of all these assets. Yeah, so all right So it's okay, so you've got a housekeeper. We'll go ahead and deduct that do you own any farm equipment? Okay, okay, yeah, what big deduction for that? Yeah, multiple lives. Okay Yeah, we can figure all that out diamonds and gold and would you keep that in your mouth? So that's kind of what he's doing. He kind of is just like an inventory chair. And what in the world is in the case? So just just for tax purpose and we're gonna need to know what you got in that bag in that room. You have to declare is the bucket naked cook Oh, what is she cooking? Is it business related? Do you think it's it's helping you with what you guys also it sounds hot in principle But don't be naked around my food Interesting. I don't want to poop in my lasagna. I hear what you're saying. She got big old bush Yeah, I guess that's the way that you're that's that's the lady who's in your in your situation also and also and also wear and also wear her Peeps are is also like clear either low counters. Well, she's six in shields. So she's oh so she's uh sure And maybe she's already a tall lady. She's already five 10. So now she's six three brushing up against the like burger on the stover and everything like that See for me. I'm kind of like I don't want I don't want you naked for your sake Yeah, I don't want you naked for your sake next thing No, like you know that hot was on your pan touch one of your thighs and now you got now we got to figure that out Yeah, and then yeah, whoever's asking all these questions is gonna want to answer for and sorry that she was injured on your problem Now I got to talk to the insurance people roll out. No, we really got now. We got to roll out in a different type of way Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, Luda is if I had to like pick a career arc It'd be his because it's like start off as beloved really clever Amazing rapper and then just sort of get to act in things because people like you. Yeah Do like in a fast and furious or whatever just show up and you're just cast as ludicrous and he also like He just kind of started acting and then immediately was involved in like a huge hit franchise and then never really It's he didn't have to like branch out unit. I'm saying it's not like he had to be like, okay Let me see what my next role is gonna be it's like no, you're you do this. Yeah, you do this what you're you start out as a guy who's organizing Organizing low-level street races and then you become what he's like a hacker of some sort He's like he's like hacking into like bank systems and stuff like an easy check you shove once a year and be like the main frames out of line Yeah, like here's a lot of money. We're gonna need to drive fast if we want to save that main frame We got to get to the bottom of the main for any like oh, what's the other criteria? I have to just remain in incredible shape Yeah, I guess I could do that. He does. He does look really good that part. I can't do sorry Hollywood Yeah, that's in the words of Jalen Rose. Not gonna be able to do it Wait, can I ask you this? Yeah, just because this is something that I'm like really curious about About your about your journey about your story when did cuz you grew up very religious as did I mean I grew up very religious seems like you grew up maybe even more religious than I did. Yeah at what point Or you're like, okay, I'm like putting that away and I'm like it's kind of a gradual process and pivoting college It wasn't like a big dramatic thing. I wasn't like in the rain like yeah And then like just like a lot of different questions going on answered honestly music was a part of it I was like kind of thinking of heaven and like who all going to be their terms where I'm like which bands are gonna Like you get to put a festival line up in of bands that are in hell It would blow the heaven lineup out of the fucking water It's not even close the little names on the hell lineup could be headlining Yeah, come on. Come on. They be heaven would had to be lucky to get some of those guys. Yeah in the comments Go ahead and make a make someone make a like a festival poster for like hell of a loser I would actually like to have that conversation. I'd actually like to look at it because I don't know Who's like some of the most popping guys in in heaven? Who do they get like once Bono dies? He's like Christian I don't want to go to that concert, you know like already it's tough. Maybe like a wreatha like some gospel Sure sure sure that's your best betta a wreatha. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I can rock with that probably Probably when you know, hopefully no time soon but probably when probably when Stevie pass. Yeah, it's Stevie pass He probably at the heaven concert. Yeah, that's okay. That's feeling pretty good. Yeah La Cray Performing in heaven tonight. We've got a wreatha Franklin Stevie Wonder and La Cray And then you go to the hell lineup. It's like you're picking the later dude. Oh my god Michael Jackson Moonwalking in front of the devil. He doing something really really special and the fire of techniques and craze Well, what about what about Prince? Which which I Prince Prince in the heaven show. He was pretty religious. Yeah I think he's got a shot Well, then then he's headlining. That's it. I don't know you're anything better in heaven. Sure Prince Prince of peace, so to speak Sure sure sure sure Okay, yeah, all right. We're putting some together now the hell are Kelly's getting to he's doing a Arkell is stepping in stepping in the name of love with everybody. He got everybody stepping step inside decide in the hell concert Oh my god, the hell concert gonna go up. I don't really. I don't want to be in hell, but it's like I'll peek down You don't say I'm not normally in that neighborhood. I'll do a full weekend pass, but I'll go for a day. Oh devil I'm getting I'm getting the Friday night pass. It's like yes I'm gonna be hot and uncomfortable in a big massive body, but I get to see some of the best All right, in some ways that's Coachella. It's already Yeah, exactly Coachella and hell not so different after all. They've both got some really questionable figures and and you're gonna sweat more than you'd like to Scoochie, we've got some voicemails. Let's do it here from some from some fans. Let's uh, yeah, it's head phone time. I'm gonna grab those Hi, Devon, I know you talk about young studs a lot But I do not think we talked about one of his best cursors, but she gave to Aubrey And I was listening to the song and quite literally had to stop the song and find the phone number because who the fuck Please listen with any more of it anyway, what a lot of people on this part. Yes sacrifices is one of the best Birds that I've heard love this song the whole entire verse top to bottom, but a couple of my favorite lines Growing up I was a running back. You never made me real once. I got shot Sweat started running the shit was red light on it. I'm kicking Tim's and like I point but you don't think it should sweet I'm talking sweet dear meat. I'm talking sweet like you sleep I'm talking like a I'm I'm talking about talking like a speech Like the president. I kill a meat mind you to add live with scammers amazing. I'm talking meat like freak I'm talking meat like sleek. I'm talking meat like a geek is one of the best lines. I'm talking meat like a geek one of the best lines of the century He continues on amazing things I'm gonna use a name like who is he you get it? I said, I'm gonna use a name like who is he? amazing Oh verse tops about them. They're just doing things that we have not heard of Love the podcast will be calling in again with more lyrics. Oh, okay. We'll be hearing from her Yeah, well, thank you. I don't I don't know if I've ever heard anybody be like yeah You're hearing from me now and this won't be the last time. She said who leaves voice mails, but me again Yeah, I don't know if you said your name, but up top he goes who the fuck leaves voice mails anymore as you're leaving a voicemail You're doing the thing and you're also be like and I know nobody does this, but I am doing it and I will do it another time So I guess excited to hear from you again, but great taste though. I mean what a verse It's a fun project. It was also the first project where Drake was like alright. I'm doing British stuff now That is a mate. Yeah out of all I mean it is sort of the logical what's gonna happen if you continue to just like catch various waves They get popular which is like I think I don't blame him for doing like I think there's maybe the magma interview He's like yeah, he's if he has 40 employees. So like he's got to stay poppin. Yeah, if I go down Pretty much I go down you know, it's pretty much just me and on me or whatever but like he got to keep the business big But at some point. Yeah, if you're gonna just whatever's hot and at some point like and also who among us hasn't enjoyed like Pretending to rap like central C for a second. It's really fun. I love rapping like a British guy on the show me and James did British rapper character Yeah, cuz I like British rap. Yeah, like and I think it is I like sincerely enjoy it But I also do think a lot of British rap is so unintentionally funny. Oh, yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like I like skepta and he's got like a bunch of cool verses But like sometimes I'm like it's just so British rap is so like On this like it is so direct. Yeah, it is so like straightforward and it's like there's not there's rarely like in you windows It is like oftentimes. They're saying exactly the thing that it means. Yeah, right? So like skepta like God, what's included? There's like one that like me and my buddy Laugh about all the time we're on this playboy card. He's song where he just goes look at this fucking food Look at this fucking feast And it's just like no, he's just talking about a lot of food. He's a craft service. Oh my god He's fucking feast and then he has a God it might be on this Drake album where he goes. No, no, no, it's I think it's from a different project But he goes saying you don't eat pork. Don't eat pussy lie up. You want just an actor? It always feels like they're a little bit angry because they don't have guns. Like there's a little bit Pissure, they're like I would shoot you, but the government is sort of jealous. Yeah, I was just decided that we can't we can only stab I've Yeah, I do I've wrapped like skepta many many times. I'll wrap like central sea his song with He's on the praise the Lord with Rocky. Yeah, that one's amazing. Yeah, okay. Oh, so that and the new Isaiah shot album. He's a song that has kind of that Oh, yeah, the rock. Yeah, I was like all this feels like this feels a lot like that one. Oh, there was also there was a DMX song where he wraps like that too Yeah, the pain the rock like yeah, and I do like that flow. Yeah But yeah, I mean not too much to say about this thug verse other than that. Absolutely correct, man I was a great first. You're right Nothing else to say that you're right. It is a really good verse and I also appreciate it also that song in general is like every Everybody's verse on it is really good. The two chains verse two chains One of the inspirations for this podcast overall. I was just saying someone asked me like what's my dream collab? And I think it's either two chains or action brownson because to me there's a lot of quote-unquote serious rappers who are just organically naturally Very hilarious and like the imagery they describe yeah low-way and obviously is another great example just like oh my god Like we actually like picture what he just described like that's fucking hilarious Yeah, it's just one of the many ways he can score points with the bar So you know, so like that. I don't feel the need to like make a clear demarcation of like I do comedy rap It's like I rap I'm mainly funny just because that's who I am, but like there's just there's many ways to score points with the bar God bless. Yeah, and God, I wish I could I wish I could remember two two chains. I know the last verse that he has or the last bar that he has on his verse on sacrifices He goes he goes pretty girls like trap music. So I woke up with my wallet hard Yeah, for sure. I like that interlude with the guys describing how everyone's pregnant. It's like she's pregnant Oh, people in a pimple and a corner. She pregnant crack here pregnant everybody here pregnant And I'm just like what is that from I'm like, what did they pull that for is that from yeah? Was that just a guy who was in the studio talking? Yeah, and they just recorded it while he was talking or was Or was that is that like from an interview? Is that from a snippet? I love interludes and rap albums because your ears do need a break Because the rap is a very intense form of music and if it's just banger after banger like at some point your brain Just kind of shuts down. So I like it as a little detour But a lot of times they feel really lazy. It's just like you just went through your voicemails like my uncle said some shit That's mostly what it is. Yeah, it's primarily that people I mean you remember like college dropout like Kanye was doing like full. It was like a full story like a art And there was a fake fraternity and all that stuff. Yeah, and it's like uh, but we learned that maybe it's not the best to have like the sound of you getting your Dick soaked in one of your most popular songs. That was big. That's tough a lot of that was going on quite a bit back then And it's like we believe you man ludicrous. I believe had a sketch where he was Had that go on and it's getting tough. Yeah, and like I mean I write the dirtiest shit, but I'm sitting there like I don't need to hear this Can we before we get out of here? Can I can I just can I talk to you about a few of your bars? I love to From the the hit single I have sex My Dicks jurist's diction is your Municipalities yeah Qualitative over quantity Quantity. Yeah, we got sure to that by the way. Do you really? Oh, can you can you can you can you run that can you I mean I get it. I do I understand it But uh can you tell me tell me how you landed on it? Um, man, it's so long ago. I like I mean there's a whole untapped World of any song that any word that ends in it. I you can turn into titty. I like that I have a song that's not out yet about titties where I say um Body positivity diversity and inclusivity. I like from the itty bitty to infinity So large that the squad got uplifted by committed. Whoo Come on That's yeah, so just so stay tuned So go ahead and like and subscribe and just yeah just go ahead and be ready for that cuz it's coming But yeah, I don't know. I just like titty puns and I also like taking something I feel like Just in terms of writing what you know because I come from such a like I don't know stiff kind of corporate World that I've been around to like to talk about jurisdictions and municipalities in a dirty rap context is fun Yeah, it's like a nice blending of the two. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, you also say A lot of women getting soggy with me, which is uh Gross. Yeah, it's gross. It is gross. I also but I do appreciate it because it is the um It is I like because you're describing a thing that ultimately is good But in like kind of the worst way possible. Oh, that's totally a thing Which is like I've never heard a phrase like that, but yeah, absolutely where it's like oh yeah This is something you want to happen, but you are saying it in a way that's like I don't exactly And that was part of like I was aware as I was writing it I was like I'm a person who's not had very much sex But I'm gonna lean into that. I'm gonna write about it and sort of show my hand It's like this person doesn't kind of actually hasn't really lived this experience. It's funnier to me And also like it when someone takes it's does it kind of seriously? Somehow that's more cringe for me if they're like like my dick like for real like my dick though Whereas like I so they're like I'll see I'll call it like my peam and stuff and it's just like To me, it's actually somehow round about less cringe to just describe it in just sort of like a kind of way Sure because it's like what an insane thing to do in general. So just wrap about your genitals which right? Yeah, and and reps a lot about that. It's a lot wrap. That's a huge part of that and like any other genre There's not like blue grass like well, I was hanging hog and did I know I? Yeah, it's just sort of it's a precedent's been established Oh Just say it for the record Scoochy boochie. Thank you so much Thank you, bro. Thank you for pulling up Anything you'd like to plug for the people before you get out of here. Oh, yeah come see me on tour. I'm really good live I wrap and I'm gonna be doing a bunch of shows all over and then check out my podcast holy smokes where we smoke weed and tell Bible stories It's basically drunk history, but with weed in the Bible had a bunch of dope comedians on it We just did episode with Chloe Radcliffe and Benny Feldman and Sam talent episode just came out to watch that And you can get mercy scoochy boochie.com God bless Yeah, I'll see y'all next time. Bye y'all. My favorite lyrics is a production by disco nap If you guys like what you hear leave a review and tell all of me about the show and make sure to follow us at my favorite lyrics pod On all social platforms except for Twitter. 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