Who Married Harry w/ Harry Jowsey

Hey everyone, I'm Morgan Stewart and welcome to The Morgan Stewart Show. I'm going to be talking about pop culture, fashion, my personal life, and just a warning, I will be giving my opinions on everything. And those opinions are subject to change, okay? Now, let's get into it. Okay, Harry, welcome! What are we doing? Honestly, I have all these notes in front of me and I have no idea what we're going to talk about. But we're going to talk about your show. Okay, great. Good to see you again. Good to see you. We haven't seen each other since I did your show. Yeah. We were a little bit more unserious when I did your show. I think because it was our first time interacting, we just didn't really know where the line was. Where the line was. And I also feel like today you came in, you were like, I am doing a television show right now. I have press. You're like a man on a mission right now. I am. I'm wearing a college shirt. You are? Do you have to do something after this podcast? You have a hard out at 12. They were like, Harry has a hard out. I'm like, fuck on my time he has a hard out? No fucking way. Yeah, I think we're doing more stuff here. I don't know what we're doing. Things are going really well. Okay, so let's talk about, I have a lot of things to talk about, first of all, but we're going to go out of order because we always do. Yeah, look at us. I want to talk, first of all, I've been watching your show. Okay. First impressions of the show. Yeah. Okay. I loved it. Okay, cool. I fucking loved it. I think you're so, no, I think you are so incredibly talented. Obviously, Mae Gemini, we know, but like you handle yourself so well. And I really, I felt badly for you at certain times because I was like, he wants this bitch to shut the fuck up so badly. He doesn't know what to say. You're like really trying to do the right thing. You're trying to do the right thing so many times. And they're like, why don't you say you love me? And I'm like, girl, he doesn't love you. Oh my God. That was, that was wild. That was, wait, what was, okay, first of all, I do want to just say, I'm painting the picture for my audience. Yeah. Everyone is brunette. There's no blondes. There is not one blonde. So Amanda. She's blonde. Is a blonde. Who's your best friend? Yeah. Your other best friend. What's his name? Sonny. Sonny. I fucking love Sonny. He's the best. They cut out all his good stuff. What? No, he was so cute, smart. He's married, has a baby. Yeah. Two kids. And then your ex-girlfriend. Whoa. My husband and I watched. I was like, let's not look at Georgia too long. He like couldn't get over Georgia. Yeah. How hot is Georgia? She's beautiful. She's the best. She's like Margot Robbie. That's what everyone says. She looks like her and talks like her. Yeah. It's really nice. It's really nice. And then you bring in all, how many girls do you start with? 20 girls. Yeah. 20 brunettes. Yeah. There was some blondish. No, not one. All right. Why is that? Do you not like blondes? I didn't cast it. Like I would love all flavors of fruit. Yeah. Bring them all in. It was literally just like all brunettes. Yeah. And then I couldn't remember anyone's fucking name. Like I thought everyone had like a weird name kind of, right? Yes. There was some funky names thrown in the mix for sure. Who is the girl? Well, first, okay. I love that your friends also choose the people for you at first. Yeah. Did you like that? It was so good because it took the pressure off the eliminations because like everyone went home. Yeah. Yeah. They are. Okay. Look. So there's 20 girls. There's literally one dirty blonde. There's two blondes. Barely. Three. Which is fine. But the girl in the white dress in the front. Emma. Emma. I thought Emma's name was Alice the whole fucking time. Emma is the best person you'll ever meet. I can tell Emma's cool as fuck, but you were not, you were not vibing with that. They cut out all our funny shit. Really? We was like me and her back and forth all day long. It was the funniest thing. Her and Abby are the most unhinged duo. Like there was so much fun. You could literally. When we took the jet to Vegas, you just watch them in the corner and they're just doing like the craziest shit all the time. Like when me and Abby went on a date, it was off camera, but we're putting our harnesses on. Oh yeah. You had to go down a mountain. You're scared of heights. I was literally. You were freaking out. I was freaking the fuck out. It was the craziest thing ever. They're like, why are you going so fast? I was like, I have to get off this. And if I, cause I, I literally was stuck at the top for 30 minutes and production was like, um, are you going to go down? And I was like, I'm not doing this today. No, literally Harry's like, and then you, you were like, I can't look like a fucking pussy in front of these girls. So you literally just like scooted down. Yeah. I just, I looked up, I saw cameras and I'm like, I can't be a pussy on camera. No, no, no, no. You also had a lot of coordinating workout outfits. It was like really impressive. Like, I feel like you had your mornings. Yeah. Wait, I have another question. Okay, good. Good. Yeah. This is my podcast. Okay. So you go in, first of all, when you're filming, are you like you're meeting, do you have one on one time with every girl at first? It was, um, the first two days blur. Like I can't imagine it was like speed dating 20 people. And obviously because the show hadn't been done before. No one really. Nobody knows what to talk about. So a lot of people just came in and trauma dumped and like, this is my life story off the jump. So I was to you, to me. Yeah. And I'm like, okay, I'm trying to learn about you. I'm also trying to remember your name. I'm trying to understand everything. And it's like a 16 hour day. And then I go to bed, wake me up at like 5am. So three hours, I was having like five or six Celsius a day to try and make sure. Well, cause also when I was sitting down with each girl, I'm like, I don't want you to think I'm disinterested cause I'm exhausted. So I just have to make sure I'm always up and on. So like every guy, I wanted it to be as fair as possible and to give them even. This is what I genuinely do things throughout the show. You see like what a nice guy you are. Like you really are trying so hard to know. You really are like you give and like, it's a lot. You're like one man on 20 girls. All of these girls are like telling you all these things. They're all fighting for your attention. Also, you'll see halfway through. A lot of the girls start wearing my watches. Oh my God. Oh my God. You're reading my mind. Can I tell you in one scene not to, well, spoiler alert, I don't care. So at one point you're hooking up with Amber or no, there's, listen guys, here's what's happening in the show. He starts talking to one girl about how he's in love with her or she's in love with him or whatever. Not literally. And then five minutes later, she's like, sorry to interrupt. And then you're making out with another girl. You're always picking up these girls and throwing them on the bed. You have to do it. And then there was one clip where I was like, why is she, cause I'm such a watch head. We're both watch heads. And I was like, why is her, I didn't see her put on the watch. So basically what happened was it was, I tried to have a system so everyone could have fair amount of time with me. So I had like five watches there and I went down. I know you did a nice rotation. I was trying to keep it moving. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The AP came out. I was like, oh my God, he has a lot of watches. Yeah, I was going crazy. But I basically, I gave them all a watch and I'm like, look, every 15 minutes come up and then hand the watch to another girl. So I was trying to make sure it was fair, but then some girls threw the watch out and they're like, I don't care. I'm going to be here all night. No, it was, but was there any separation between you, your room and the girls coming up or could they just come? They could come up whenever. I was like, oh my God, he just needs five minutes by himself. Like I weirdly felt bad for you a lot. It was interesting in the mornings cause I would only have 30 minutes. I had to get ready and work out and have breakfast. Wait, wait, to do all three of those things? Yeah. Did you work out this morning? Of course. This isn't, I had a morning routine question. What did you do this morning? Just quickly tell us. Don't make it long. I literally just trained chest, came here. Really? Yeah. Trained chest? Of course. At the gym? At a high mat over here. Oh, you're such a high mat guy. You can't do that. You got a home gym. You're too rich and famous. No, no, I don't have a home gym. Can you believe that? Can you believe the struggle I'm in? Oh my God. No, I don't have a home gym. Did you, are you okay? I know, I know. Finances are all good? No, they're all good, but we're figuring it out. We're doing something. Wow, that's really embarrassing. I know, I'm like mortified. No, lately I- Get a Pilates machine or something. No. Ew. Get a treadmill or something. Yeah, no, no, we got to figure it out. I'm going to the gym, but you need to go to, bleep that. You need to go to, you can't be going to high mat. High mat's like two reality season one. You've done like 10 reality shows. Yeah, I'm a king there. No. Oh my God, I walk around. Are you meeting girls there? No. Okay, good. Okay, what the fuck were you talking about? So 30 minutes to work out. Yeah, yeah, 30 minutes to work out. So I go downstairs and then they would come, like, there was one point where I was like getting frustrated. I was like, I just need to be alone for 30 minutes, like to just start my day. And they would bring the cameras and be like, do you want to take your shirt off? Do you want to get oiled up? I'm like, no, I just- Oh, they objectified you. Like- They tried. Of course. But I was just like, just give me a second to like start my day without my brain exploding. And then when we would have days off, the problem was with the days off, everyone would be able to sit in their thoughts. So every Monday when I'd come back, I'd have to sit down- Wait, did you have your days off at the house? No, I would be put away in a hotel and I would just sleep. Yeah, you needed a minute. I'd be, I'd get a haircut, I'd sleep. Did you have your phone? On the Sundays, yeah. Oh, so you didn't have your phone throughout filming? And none of the girls did? None of the girls did, yeah. So when I would come back, everyone would have a different thing that they'd be annoyed about or want to talk about. So the Monday morning, I'd always dread it because I'm like, okay, now they're trying to figure out like what they're upset about. So I'd have to sit there and be like, okay, I get it. And I'm trying to be as even as possible and as fair as possible. Like there was a day where one of the girls expressed that she didn't want me to, and it was not put in the show, but one of the girls expressed that she didn't want me kissing girls in public areas. And I was like, well- Yeah, I was like- This is the whole fucking show. What are you talking, who was it? It was this, it was this girl, Kiki. But basically- Okay, who's Kiki? Put the photo up. I don't know. But basically what happened was she wrote me like this three pages of like how she feels about me and all this stuff. Like handwritten? Handwritten. She wrote something else? Yeah, she's like, I'm waiting to give it to you. But she's like, you can't be kissing girls in public spaces. And I was like, look, I'm so sorry, but this is a reality show. How long had you known her? Like 48 hours or something. It was like, or maybe it was a little bit longer. But the thing was, she said that to me. And then I was like, look, I understand, but where's not a public space? Because what happened was I was- You were going along with this? Well, I was trying to be fair. So I'm like- You went into this very nicely. I was trying my best. So I mean, it was breakfast time. She was making breakfast. I was around the corner on a couch with a girl talking. And she gave me a kiss. A good morning kiss. And that was it. This girl, Kiki didn't even see it. She just heard it and was like, I don't want that to happen anymore. So there was a whole day where I said, out of respect for you and your experience, I'm not kissing anyone at all. And there was eight girls that tried to kiss me. I kept putting my hand up. I was like, look, you're going to have to take it up with the sheriff. Because I'm not upsetting anyone. I'm trying to do my best here. This is crazy. It was wild. And then once we went on our date and she took herself out of the experience. Oh, she did? Did we see that? Yeah, it was after the rock thing. She was like- We were just not connecting at all. You were like, we're not friends. We were friends. Yes. Oh, yes, of course. She said to me, I wouldn't even be your friend. And I'm like, okay, well then what are we doing then? So anyway, I came back to the house and all the girls were like, we had a meeting. We've discussed that the kissing ban is off. And then I was like, okay, well, fair enough. She's left anyway. Literally none of them- kid and they were like let's let's go kiss let's go kiss okay but how i feel like there was a lot more than kissing so like who was the can we are we allowed to not to get vulgar but like who was the first girl well who's the first girl you really liked before i get naughty um definitely danelle for sure i thought that we were danelle was great gorgeous amazing she's like the long brunette yeah i'm sorry i really watched but keeping these keeping is it yeah well georgia doesn't look like that yeah she's like gorgeous and margot robbie like georgia dated like four years ago is georgia taken i don't take it for granted i think no okay so danelle yes i love danelle i thought well we don't know who you end up with but like if i was a betting woman i would think it would be danelle well okay so who so i'm at first of all i do want to say i've been watching the show like binging it up because i do my research okay and then my son came in for 30 minutes to like watch he's like he's four years old no he doesn't know what's going on and he goes is that daddy i'm like no it's not daddy yeah that's not that's not daddy and then my assistant and i were giving my husband shit i'm like well you guys kind of have the same eye color and like beard situation happening hilarious you need to come over i keep telling you have me come over you need to bring like well maybe i'll bring your wife equipment for your fucking for your bungalow for your hut what's going on i'll bring you some dumbbells and a fucking treadmill listen you talk all the shit you want you're working out at high mat okay that's not much better okay let's have some respect put some respect okay so did you have a psychologist during the show like for the girls and stuff because that's crazy everyone had like there was a lot of pre if if someone requested it they called me and i was like oh my god i'm not gonna be able to do that i'm not gonna get it okay unless you ask for it you like there weren't there wasn't someone there the whole time actually there was actually someone there the whole time but she was just waiting for someone to be upset did you ever talk to her no you didn't give a shit how did how did this whole show come about basically after my dad had passed yes which we taught we talked about yeah yeah don't don't do it don't die it's terrible it's fucking awful and can i tell you something not to make it awful which because i do want to your mom's so pretty we see her in the show no it was my sister was that your sister okay there was a brunette lady who's gorgeous well she's gorgeous well i don't know she's older than you so i was like is that his mom but then who were you watching the show with or the movies the family stuff with what was her name oh my mom may have been in that yes yeah the show how did the show come together oh yeah basically after dad had passed i came back to la obviously not feeling pretty good about myself yeah and feeling really lonely and i got a call from netflix and they're like hey would you want to get married i'm like yeah okay we're gonna figure out a show i'll be back in two weeks seriously so they're just thinking about you and creating shows for you my best friends yeah and i was like this is divine timing like the universe loves me and here we are okay and you were like yeah i'll fucking go and do this show yeah and who would you want to do it with i'm like get alex cooper get ac on the line really and then they got ac okay locked in and that was it and here we are oh my god i think i need to get some best friends at netflix come on over okay so okay you do the show you show up are you like nervous when you start this process are you like this is amazing um i think i was pretty numb until the day like because we were filming two days before i met all the girls like i was doing all the interviews and the pre-roll stuff and like the walkthroughs and in the car like we shut down pch and like it was pretty cool felt like fucking tom cruise yeah you they gave you a nice fancy mustang all of that yeah when you're doing when you really i was so heavy steering i'm like give me a lamb again yeah what is it it didn't fit it wasn't on brand yeah talk about hot i was like what is that car yeah what do we do was that like a who's the producer the guy that i just spoke to that i was going to do the reunion we'll talk about that in a second oh very sassy about it did you fuck it up or was that let me tell you what happened tell me what happened let me tell you exactly this is an exclusive for us annie roberts who's head of casting at netflix do you know any yeah okay she worked at e when i worked at e i love her so much so she calls me randomly she goes around my agent she's like look your agent's basically i guess they had gone to my agents and they my agents went back and said we want just like a clean offer she's not going to like interview or do anything for it and i was like okay well that's crazy like i'll do what i want so she's like hey i just want to make sure you know this gets to you we're doing this show with harry i know that you guys know each other we're doing a reunion blah blah blah so i want you to meet with i get on with him i'm like oh my god i didn't realize it's you oh my god this is so funny like i should host this reunion he's like we think you'd be really great for it blah blah blah blah so they go around and they use these sort of personal strings like because it's like well why won't morgan meet with me like i've known her forever so i chat with both of them hear absolutely nothing post the zoom he's like this is such an easy thing like you're just gonna have to binge watch the show you know it's really about like connecting everybody i was like no one's quick here on their feet yeah don't hear anything so finally i call my agent i'm like you know i haven't heard anything about this situation and it's coming up you're hosting you're doing the reunion the 16th right uh i think they push it monday okay whatever so she's like i've been trying to get a hold of them i can't get an answer i'm like well okay well i don't need to do it it was just weird that they went out of their way to chat with me and then never speak to me again yeah and then they got a name of another girl that's just like supposedly doing it and that was it weird it was weird and i was with them and they're like how do you feel about morgan i'm like love her so much she'll grill me it'd be all good it would be i mean i know who you're probably gonna have and i don't know her yeah but we'll see we'll see but i just don't know what that was i i had no idea but i was pushing on my side because i was like she's great i was like watch our episode together yeah she thinks i'm a fucking idiot so it's good totally and i would have sided with so many of the girls actually i would have no to be honest i probably would have sided with you a lot because i really do feel like when i watch the show you do get a sense of yourself of like how vulnerable and genuine you are the the hardest thing was was that every episode is three days and there was so much good stuff even the girls personalities like there was so much great stuff that was like cut out or like sweet moments sincere moments like there was a moment with juliana when after i'd date when she put the paint on me like we had like the most incredible conversation about loss because she lost her dad too and oh my god dad is dead on that show it was a lot of dead dads there's a lot going on yeah a lot of ghosts um but there was so much like sweet stuff but again it's like probably boring for tv like they want the raunchy craziness do you feel like you were not happy with a lot of the edit um i feel like there was a lot more stuff that would have made me a little bit more human and like a little bit more true to the experience but i think look end of day it's a reality show so it's fine but i do think you come across quite human and very i mean there were scenes that i was watching where like you truly are so exhausted i mean we watched it and i was like this poor guy is so the bag of eyes but you looked great but you were so tired and like this girl is basically just like looking at you like i want you to like love me choose me be with me and i was like girl you've known him two fucking weeks the best thing about that scene is i grabbed i had my skincare line on the bedside table yeah and i pulled it in did you and i pulled it in and i was like you can say it now okay can we talk about juliana first of all do i know juliana juliana was the one that she reminds i don't know if she looks familiar um everyone thinks she was that girl from uh love island all the comments like wait is she on this thing too i'm like a different girl wish did you like her or was she a little kooky um she was honestly really great like we had so much fun but i didn't so i didn't know what was happening like once we said those words and she immediately dipped i don't know i love you yeah well you to be fair it was so painful because it was like it was also two different conversations where like she like somehow in her brain did not realize that you were like you were saying do not say i love you because i don't fucking love you yeah and i don't want to and she was like oh i think he like doesn't want to be open and vulnerable i'm like are we all this fucking stupid yeah as women like i guys i'm like worried i was like no he like very clearly doesn't love you i think that what i was when i was watching it back i was like i think i'm trying to be a people pleaser like that was my you needed to just say i don't say i love you because i don't love you back well i should have said that yeah but all i said was whoa that's a statement no no but even before i know that was so i saw that clip i was like oh no i'm like whoa that's a statement no no no don't do that don't do that but you had a conversation before you got to that point do you remember yeah about the like love that's when she was confused when she the reason why she said i love you is because in the first conversation you lived this do you not remember she thought you were saying i can't say this because it's like gonna open you up and make you too vulnerable yeah yeah no you were good but yeah it was it's like a confusing situation to be in because we were having so much fun and then i was like oh i just i don't know if i'm gonna get there with her did you sleep with her no i didn't okay how long was the filming like five weeks danelle danelle was a quiet cat she came out i was like she's the first one was she the first one no oh my god who was the first one amber but amber it was cut differently amber was in the shower no so danelle at that moment i didn't know it was before that though no you know what actually happened it was i know you know what actually happened oh my god it was her birthday it was birthday amber no danelle's we go upstairs and i was giving her a talk because she hadn't been up and then we go in this other wardrobe we just start making out and it was five minutes the other girls come up like come hang out with us and that was it but i'm watching it back i'm like perfect cliffhanger and i was like i don't know whose moan that is it's definitely not mine i don't know whose moan that is is a clip thank you keep going that is crazy no but i didn't know i'm like who's moaning like that yeah and it's going for so long like i don't know i was that long oh my god but i was these poor girls okay legitimately i was like oh even danelle posted a story like we were just kissing and i don't get it but again perfect cliffhanger to make you binge episode because when you're meeting her at the horse stable first of all why is there always a fucking horse stable in in reality tv because you grew up on a farm yeah i fucking hate horses really yeah you could be an equestrian no no it's not the look no and the money what does that mean the look i don't think the looks good it's a ponytail or the slick back whatever whatever is that a horse yeah yeah yeah and the and the watch is that a good thing for do you have watches what we have different color faces yours is light green yeah and yours is way shinier i know and - Oh, I'm so broke. - Okay, no, you're not. So, oh, I'm like, no, I don't even want to put this on because if you guys watch this show, every girl on the show had this watch on. That one, that was the one. Yeah, was it? Wow, this is beautiful. I know, right? My husband got it for me for my, for Christmas. Of course he did. I know. You guys are so rich and famous. No, we're so great. Okay, wait. So, Horace, I want to talk about. Yeah. Well, I honestly, I'm like thinking about all the things. I literally loved the show. I thought it was such a good concept, but I think we need to do Let's Marry Harry twice. Like, again. No. No? You wouldn't do it? No, I think I would. That's fucked up. They didn't use me for the reunion. I just got pissed about that. Okay, keep going. Yeah, I was just kind of. You're going to text Steve. I think I know why. I'll tell you after. Okay, I love. Anyway, I don't know what it was. I'm turning into one of the girls on your show. Keep going. Oh, with season two. No, I wouldn't. If they asked me to host, I would love to do that. That would be the dream, would be a host and to be able to help be in that situation and be like, hey, this is. But you're still the star. You can't be the host yet. I can't do that? I know. Are you done with reality TV? I'm done with reality dating for sure. I'm retired. Never say never. I'm saying never. Why? Was it not a good experience or just too exhausting? It was a great. It was the most incredible, fulfilling experience ever. And it was really cool to be like the first time I ever led a show and I was elite. Like that was really cool. Yep. And it's doing well. Yeah, it's doing really well. It's like being charted like the first day it came out, which was like in almost every country, which has been crazy. It's insane. But Japan, I don't know what's going on over there. Guys, get me on the charts. Thank you. But basically, yeah, it's been doing really well. So I'd hope to do that. But I just think that after five dating shows, and this one was ending in marriage, it's probably a good time to just say I'm retired. But you have been elevating and you are. I mean, I hate when people say this to me, but like you really are meant for television and we know why because you're a May Gemini. I'm a bit crazy. I am so when I see so much of myself in you, I'm like, I just know what he's thinking right now. Like it's to be that quick on your feet and to be able to navigate is like such a rare gift. The worst thing was because I saw a lot of comments like, oh my God, he's blasted through this whole thing. Like so, so drunk. No, you're tired. I was. The thing is, I was running on fumes and towards the end of the night, like some of the conversations like I was just like slurring because I was that's that. But they would only give me one drink an hour. I saw one of the girls posted a TikTok saying he had alcohol in his room. I'm like, they would. There's 400 cameras in my room and a microphone. If I and also I don't leave the show. I don't have my phone. So I can't go and like get Uber Eats real quick. I can get a couple of tequilas and then get crazy. Like the only thing in my room was energy drinks and protein bars for when I'd just be like, I need to have something because the first two days as well, like I think I forgot to eat. Like I was just like, just like running and like, oh, I don't want to ruin this experience for anyone. Let me just go meet the next person. Like, okay, but we have to have lunch. And I'm like, yeah, but I, I don't know. I don't want to waste anyone's time. Like I want to make sure I'm, I'm spending equal time with everyone. It was, it was a lot. It's a lot. No, I trust me. Those schedules are insane. Who did you like the most as like people, just as people? Um, like. Oh, in the cast? Yeah. The crew. Okay. No, not the crew. I don't give a shit about the crew. Did we see them? No. Um, I honestly, Amber, like we had such a good time and Emma and Abby and Danelle. But Amber was a slow burn. Was she not? Like she came to the front very late in the season. Like I kept thinking, who's the girl that I keep thinking her name's Alice and it's not Alice? Uh, Emma. Emma. I kept being like to my husband, I was like, Emma keeps having confessionals and talking about shit, but I haven't seen one fucking scene with Emma and Harry. Yeah. It's kind of sucks. It's like, I didn't see any connection or any, I was like, why is this girl still, still talking about him? Why is she still here? No, she was the best. Like we. Was she? She needs a podcast. Pretty too. Yeah. She's so pretty. She was on Squid Game too. Like she was on a few other shows before. What's her sign? Do we know her sign? Um, a good one. What's Amber's sign? Uh. Come on. You should know. This is. What's her birthday? Google that. I'm so not a research show. I just, I did all the, I did, I watched all the shows. Okay. So you like the girls. Yeah. They were great. And then was there one that you were like, this bitch has to leave? Um, yeah, for sure. Who? Um, I think early on, like there was this girl, Shane, I saw her posting a lot of stuff and I'm like, I don't even remember you being there. Like I knew, I knew you for 24, not even 24 hours. Like I maybe had 10 minutes of FaceTime with you. And then my, my friends were like, yeah, she has to go. And like a lot of the girls early on, I legitimately no idea who they are. And they're posting like crazy about the show, which is again, like good for you, like express how you feel. Oh Jesus. But it was a year ago and I knew we sat down and spoke for 10 minutes. Was there craziness? There was craziness between some of the girls? Yeah. Oh, okay. Like who had the worst? She was in Aries. She is in Aries. Aries, Gemini, good match. Good match. Good match. But basically Sammy and Juliana, so Sammy the one with the kid. I think they all kind of hated Juliana, right? Is that fair to say? I think what was going on was Juliana was closer to the girls. Sammy would just stick to herself. She's like, I'm just here for you. And I wanted to figure this out. Oh, I thought the girls didn't like Juliana because she was always involved in drama. Was that the wrong? I think that's what happened later on. Okay. Like when she left, like it was very interesting. Like when a girl would leave, like when Faith left, they would all come to me and be like, thank you for getting rid of her because like we didn't, like it was so, like even with Rekhi when she left, they're like, thank you because they're putting rules and they're putting stuff in our face and making us feel less than. Like with Faith, when she came back and announced it, like I was the first, oh, I was a kiss and was being braggadocious about it, which is like fully fine. It's a TV show. All good. Like, and you're excited about it. It's all good. Amazing. In my eyes. But the girls were like, when I switched her out and sent her home, they were all just like, thank you. I didn't know if you're going to take it serious because it seemed very lustful with them. Like it was, it was weird. As soon as a girl would left, as soon as a girl left, they would come to me and be like, thank God, thank God she's gone. Was the Juliana thing planned? Don't lie. Were you like, hold on, I have to get rid of her. Or like, was that a planned moment or you took it into your own hands? I was spiraling because I'm like, she doesn't deserve this. Like she doesn't deserve feeling like we're in love and telling the girls. It was so crazy. It was crazy. No, I'm sorry. It was crazy. I was like, how did you, he's very clearly telling you he doesn't love you. I just, you know, she's perfect for TV. She needs to do every show. She was like sad walking away. Body looked good when she walked away. Okay. So. She looked great. Everyone looked beautiful. No, beautiful women. And like also from what we saw, like pretty nice to each other. Like if I would have been in that situation, I don't know if I would have handled it that No, there was claws out. There was definitely claws out. Oh, okay. And I'm kind of fascinated why there wasn't more of their drama. Like they came. They came very clicky towards like halfway through and was just like, we're not fucking with her. I think they wanted it to be maybe more upscale and then it would not have been that way because I think like watching it, it was not formulaic because the show was amazing. I loved it. I was like locked in. Yeah. But like so much of your interpersonal relationships, I think we needed to see more because we kept seeing confessionals of all these girls talking about this connection. And I'm like, but you haven't done a scene together. Yeah. Where are we? Where the fuck are we? So it was hard to follow sometimes. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. No, like it should have been 20 episodes. It would have been better. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about Little Harry. Little? Yeah. When you were a child. Okay. Trigger. It was a trigger, huh? No, we know. We know. You're working out. You're big. You're tall. Yeah. So you grew up. Wait, who? You grew up in New Zealand or Australia? Yeah. Born and raised in Australia, but went to school in New Zealand. And we spent the summers there. Okay. Talk to me about farm life. Oh my God. It's the best. So you literally grew up on a farm. Yeah. So my mom would just have a ton of animals just for fun. So we just have like pigs, chickens, horses, cows, like for no reason other than just to have animals because she loves them. And it was beautiful. And is it still the same farm that she lives in now? She got a way bigger one. It was like 150 acres, like has the side of this like mountain and just has way more animals. Like she's just. Is she tending to these animals? Like, yeah, she loves them. So that's her job. Yeah. Yeah. She's retired and just like lives on the farm. Hangs up. Hangs out. What did she do when you were growing up? So my parents, my dad invented this tag. So before dogs and cats would get microchipped, they'd put a nylon tag around their collar. Oh wow. That would say, this is the council that this dog belongs to. If it gets lost, like this is, this is its identification number. So he invented that and they would do that for all the dogs and cats around the world. Obviously once microchips came in, it kind of fucked that up. So they moved heavily into the mining industry. So we, where I grew up was a mining town. Oh wow. Coal mining. So all the heavy mystery, every, all. The heavy machinery and the cranes and everything needed a tag around it to say this was when it was last inspected, next inspected due here. Wow. And so he did those. And your parents were married for how long? I think like 20 years or something. And then how old were you when they got divorced? I was actually filming Two Up to Handle. Oh, you were, oh, you were like kind of an adult already. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I was like 22. Yeah. So basically. That's a weird age for your parents to get divorced. Yeah. And I didn't know that it was happening, but basically I was filming the show and I was like, oh, my mom was pretty sad before it. And. Were they fighting when you were growing up? Yeah. They never, they never got along. Okay. No, they, they, like, it's one of those like high highs, low lows relationship. Like. Look at us. Look at us, lust. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So they would, if it's, if it's crazy and angry, it's the angriest. If it's loving and soft and sweet. It's the nicest. It's the nicest. And you wait just quickly. So I understand you and your entirety. You have four sisters. Four sisters. And they're, but you're half sisters. Half sisters, yeah. Different mom. So from what, oh, oh, so your dad had four daughters before. Yeah, yeah. He, in his early twenties, he met this lady in New Zealand. They had a, like, family and then they split, met my mom and then was like, my mom was like, I'm having two boys and then both me and my brother IVF. Okay. So tell me, how did we even get into reality TV? You've done six? Like 10, I think. Actually? Which was your, has this been your favorite experience? Yeah, for sure. This is the coolest. But how did we first start to get on television? Did you always know you were funny? I knew I was a class clown when I kept getting kicked out of schools. Were you getting kicked out of schools? All of them. All of them. I couldn't be allowed to school. Were you good in school though? Like when you tried? No. Never? No. If you were, if you went to school now, do you think you'd be good at it? No. Still? Who cares about school? I mean, I'm just saying. Algebra? I don't even know what a noun or a verb is. No, no. I know. Beyond. I literally was sitting there for 13 years. I'm like, I don't know what you've taught me. I don't know. I don't know how to spell my own name. I know how to post a reel on Instagram. That's what I know. That's what you know. Yeah. Okay. So how did we get on the first show? I, one of my friends committed suicide. which is which is what happens walking into the fun stuff today awesome uh basically what happened was my brother's best friend like one of my big brother figures took his own life and i was at university i wasn't happy and i was like fuck what do i do like i can't call people all day longer are you okay because that's fucking annoying so this is post high school yeah this is my second year at university where did you go to university so clearly you were good at school no i wasn't well you got into university no i think because i got in as an adult because i was 18 but is that how that works in the uk or wherever in australia if you become an adult you can go to school yeah it's for university okay well so you were in school for two years yeah and basically that happened and it re-pivoted my thinking and then again like the universe was like divine timing my friend tagged me in a post on facebook for the show heartbreak island like you'd be funny for this so i just sent in photos of me in my undies and then two days later they were like you're crazy come on and they flew me to new zealand flew to fiji i won the show and then here we are and then what no what was the second show after that to what the handle okay yeah and i sent naked photos for that did you actually yeah holding a balloon everything i was just like i have to get on it i was i was every day i'd apply under like five different names i'm like you have to have me on on these shows like you're gonna think i'm fucking insane what do you mean a balloon what happened what was going on i was getting creative because i was like what they're gonna like a balloon strategically placed holding a balloon like just fully yeah i'm like are those photos on the internet anywhere or they haven't no but i'm just like have those leaked because do you need to do those for ratings or whatever basically what was going on was that being a man and a woman is such a different experience i want everyone to know that okay um but what happened was they just weren't getting back to me and it i was applying for love island uk because i have a uk passport and so i'm like if i just keep applying someone's gonna say yes and if my photos get crazy and crazy i'm like this wait did they progress past the balloon no that was the one that was the one and then they called yeah and they were like hey look i did all the casting for love island and then the guy who was casting me sam king he was like look we have this balloon and i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god this other show we can't tell you who it's for what it's about we literally cannot tell you anything and i was like okay he's like but just trust me it's going to be the greatest decision you make and it was for netflix and they've never done a reality show before they just couldn't tell me because it was so under wraps but what show was that because we did too hot to handle too hot to handle was netflix i watched that show yeah it was a good one okay yeah okay so then you did that did that and then i got the bug and i was like this is so fun entertaining people and just being crazy right it was just natural to you yeah okay what came after too hot to handle when did we start the podcast oh i think i started the podcast after that it was called tap in and then we the team on that was just terrible and then so we paused it's the worst it's the worst yeah it's the worst yeah and then i think i did floor is lava match me if you can amazing race perfect amazing race yeah perfect match uh dancing with the stars how was that you hated that oh it was a lot it's so much work i mean are you a dancer you were you instead no i could barely walk yeah it was not you were not in step there no have you done it no why should i do that show you're right i don't know i don't know i don't i don't get the appeal of that show but then like some people do it and it's great for them it's the best thing ever it's just a clean like fun show and same with amazing race like that was it was amazing celebrity edition which they're casting for right now i'm not do you think i would not make it two hours on that show right 100 now 100 now yeah but it was an australian one so then i went and did that in india and then but the whole time how long did you make it on that i was like the quarter no i was the finalist semi-finalist wow yeah but basically um jesus what happened was when i was on the way to australia i went on fiverr and i made a fake bachelor poster for myself to say i'm going back to australia to become a bachelor but the problem was this guy on fiverr spelled australia wrong what yeah this guy in like pakistan that was editing the photo no he he spelled it australia but i was like with an extra eye i was so excited to post it because it looks so good no that i posted it on the flight and then pissed off the whole network because it was the same network they're like you're not people aren't meant to know you're coming back to australia to film a show with us what are you doing idiot and so yeah anyway but then i kind of manifested becoming my own bachelor i was gonna you know how we end this show every week no i don't well i'm gonna tell you right now i want to know like for you like what have you learned on your journey so far but really like what are you manifesting like what does harry want the next five years yeah i think um the biggest thing is just being relentless and like showing up like no matter what and being thankful like grateful i think that's the biggest thing in this industry because a lot of people go on a reality show and they sit and they're waiting for the next thing and they don't say thank you they don't send the flowers like they don't get gifts like the biggest thing i do for these people on these shows like once something happens like here's a ton of watches is that oh a ton of watches yeah here's flowers like thank you so much like is that because your mom raised you that way no more my dad he was like would spoil everyone it's very important to say thank you oh my god it's the biggest thing ever because everyone becomes snobby once they're on a show right oh trust me we're dealing with people booking on this show now they're like well we need you know cuts i'm like nobody knows who you are yeah but basically i and i think what i'm manifesting now is hosting and producing okay so what do you what kind of show do you want to host um i would love to host let's marry season two like that so who would be your dream chloe kardashian let's go get her on you love chloe kardashian i love her so much why don't you get set well you're not okay let's talk about so you're married right now yeah you end up with amber yeah i want to know why we chose amber because amber yeah literally i never thought amber was going to make it well the thing is um with amber there was so many signs from my dad like and there was a lot more that was cut out we also have to talk about that yeah so basically on the rooftop date when i was meeting her family we're at ep and lp but even before that like how did she kind of get in through the like what was it about her that you liked i think it was the security in herself like she would just tell me like go talk to everyone the quicker you talk to them all then you'll know what you're into and i was like okay did she immediately like you no she like hated me really yeah she would just be there and she's like i don't know if this is right for me i'm like okay fair enough smart and then when smart play then then with juliana once juliana left she's like you had to do that today or else i would have gone and i was like okay here we are and it was it was the greatest thing ever but basically when i was on the rooftop with her family i had a separate chat with her brother before i left and there was a bee that just kept spinning around me and him and i was like oh i have to tell you this was that very stressful meeting her family first yeah very stressful because her mom was like no like every family came in and they didn't know what was going to happen i was like there's a potential wedding that's going to come up and the engagement ring so they were all already first off you're overwhelmed being on camera for the first time they came from hawaii and that is so crazy their daughter like from hawaii is like in la in some random house in west lake like trying to marry some guy they don't know with a diamond that was also the rings were really nice yeah they all picked their custom ones they were i was like when i saw these girls with their rings i was like okay real diamonds real of course okay so you meet her family yeah meet her family then i kept seeing signs and the next day when we're on the rooftop having a coffee yeah you're always having coffee there's so much coffee and there was another bee that landed and so i was like okay i can't discount is your dad a bee no basically before my dad left i was like left yeah left the chat uh she's laughing because my dad died that's cool cut that but also it does it really can i tell you not to be so sad like it gets harder it's worse it gets harder and harder i hate it so much it's the worst it's the worst thing but basically what happened was i when my dad passed i was like if i see a bee i'm thinking about you because we always would be keep together growing up oh no and so no no i'm so allergic to bees thank god i didn't bring any yeah no bees okay yeah so basically that was my thing with him so whenever i see a bee i just like talk to him in my head and i think about him so on the first day on the first group date when we're all going on that yacht i once we pulled the car up because obviously you have to sit and hold for a little bit i was like oh i need to go to the toilet and i was walking and i and i said out loud i'm like dad if this is the right thing to do show me a bee shut the fuck up and i'm walking and i go into the restroom and i and i'm looked down at the urinal and someone put a bee sticker right where i was peeing and i was like okay this is a crazy sign so i thought it was legit so then when that happened and i'd ask for more signs because there was a beehive near where we were filming and bees would never go anywhere like they would never be around any girls any any of the time so then once they started popping up on amber i'm like what the fuck this has to be a sign so when we're in new zealand and there was bumblebees around amber again and um i had there was a moment where i'm sitting on a rock and i'm crying because we that was a day where i didn't see anyone because i told them i was like i just need to like figure this out they i drove to the last beach i went to my dad and i sat on this rock and i finally see i didn't see that i'm right at vegas okay yeah so i finally like let out these feelings but how it's edited it looks like it's all one thing but i finally let out these feelings i'm weeping because i'm like fuck the reality of my dad is that i'm being gone just hit me and you'll see it in the finale and all the other episodes that at that point it really fucked me up like i was i was doing okay but that point onwards so confused and conflicted but when i was sitting on that rock i was like dad the bees are too obvious you have to show me something i haven't seen since i was a kid no so i was like you're asked literally asking i'm literally i was seeing this rock just going looking outside like this and i was like show me something i haven't seen in a long time show me a dragonfly i haven't seen a dragonfly can i tell you the weirdest thing we have dragonflies everywhere around my yard my dad's trying to get you some gym equipment there's a good tie back um but basically you haven't moved your mic once do i need to no but i just can't sit still keep going you haven't moved yeah um basically uh i was asking a dragonfly and then that night i was with amber in the hotel and i was spiraling about it but i needed her there because i just like wasn't processed in the grief well like i really was like my date with danelle when we were seeing a sheep like i i kept shutting down i was like i'm so sorry but was this because it was so soon it was a year after your dad right it was not even that it was so it was just so emotionally yeah it was coming up on a year and i and i hadn't seen my sisters or their family since that so going back to new zealand like you'll watch it when the plane touches down immediately tears yeah and i couldn't control it i was like oh i didn't know that that was going to happen and everyone's like why would you do the show if you're grieving and i'm like i didn't know like how do you know you can't fuck everyone for saying that nobody has any clue how this you can't and it's also something that like if you go through it it's something that like consumes at least 10 minutes of your day every single day i think about my dad or brother every day yeah no matter what yeah also see i didn't laugh no yeah it's a good note anyway uh but basically and this isn't in the show do you how long do you record your podcast for i don't know not long enough okay um but basically after with after i spent a night with amber again and i was like telling her she's like sleeping over for real yeah in the hotel um and i go for a walk the next morning with my brother-in-law and i was struggling and i we were just talking about whatever we're gonna go to the gym and i swear to god i look up and i see this store that says dragonfly in front of me and i was like i love that this is crazy so then because it was our last day in new zealand we're about to go back to la i go back because amber had lost her dad yeah everyone everyone's leaving the chat um and i tell amber what was going on and i'm like i keep like i was asking for signs and then i saw dragonfly this is crazy anyway and then we just started unraveling talking about stuff and i was like my friend's mom we call her eagle because she's like the shaman and she's just like lives in this 20 million dollar mansion in florida and just like has fire ceremonies and does all this like cool stuff with her sign me up i want to meet her and i was like i gotta find a photo of her so i'm like looking on my phone i'm scrolling in our text because i was like she's the best and one of the last unanswered texts from two years ago was a dragonfly totem and i was like okay so basically at that point i was just like showing up in so many ways then on top of that as i saw that and i put my phone down i was like what the fuck i said to him hey dad no i need you i'm gonna be so specific now because this is fucking crazy and i don't believe that it's you so i'm literally sitting outside i said i need to see your initials no fucking way yeah i was like i need to see your initials to know that this is real and i know i'm not crazy to know also that she's the one though this is no she's the one she's the right girl so basically his his name is paul jowsey but his original name was clifford paul jowsey yeah i remember you said he hated clifford he hated clifford so i was just like i need to see cpj but the problem with that is i was hunting for it i'm looking everywhere i'm looking i'm looking at every license plate i'm looking at every store i'm like i have to see it now like you have to show up because you did the last one and i couldn't see it and i couldn't see it i'm going on these dates with the girls the final dates with them i'm looking everywhere i'm like it will show up with the right girl oh my god i am freaking out so i'm looking everywhere and i can't see it and i can't see it comes to the day of the wedding no don't see anything no comes to the wedding but you've already chosen her i've already chosen amber okay and we're at the wedding and we sit down the cameras go down my mom walks over with a card and she hands me a card and it was just like congratulations from her her husband and a message from my brother and instead of writing charlie he wrote cpj and they did it a month ago and i was like all right i got you like i could i see you thanks so much dad that is so that is so crazy isn't it crazy and i was like as soon as i saw that i was like okay this is like a full sign this is all good like i i've asked for all these things and they've shown up right away as soon as i needed it it showed up that is so special that card out a month ago and was your mom how did she feel about you doing the show was she happy about it or is she like this like she's just sort of like this is your journey my family is is never really proud of any of the stuff like my sister's very proud my family the issue is it doesn't make sense to them they don't understand they don't get it which is fine but which is all good but they make it a big problem like at the wedding like my mom thought that it was a hit piece on her or she thought that these people were trying to do stuff i'm like mom this is feel good like this is a this is right our moment that woman i'm like and she was annoyed that she didn't get to spend more time with amber and do her stuff i was like mom like i haven't even i've known her four weeks did you right like i haven't i haven't spent enough time with her like i don't know what's going on did your mom like amber yeah everyone loves amber really okay so where do we stand with amber now it's for the reunion oh my god yeah okay look really quickly because i just want to end because you all the signs i put you in touch with my medium i chatted with him yeah was that fulfilling wait i've recorded the whole thing okay well just give me a few like give me a line about it when was that that was after i met you when did i do harry's show it's like last march i did i did your show march and then i no it was great wasn't he amazing he was like he just he started and then just kept spinning and then i was like okay i'm getting over yeah it's a lot yeah i'm like i don't want to but did you has anything you need to know but you need to listen to it back because some of that stuff will be true because i think so there was so much it was like an hour and a half he's so good there was so much stuff that i have to listen to it back because i'm sure it's all coming true okay so now people need to watch the reunion please of course thank you so much for coming you have to come back please i want you to like come like host a show with me like co-host an episode that's good we'll talk about like some fun shit it would be amazing just something like a little light okay you guys if you haven't watched you need to watch let's marry harry all eight episodes are out now on netflix and the reunion that i'm not hosting end of august make sure you don't miss it and write in that i should have 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