The podcast features a lively, satirical critique of modern culture, politics, and relationships. It begins with a chaotic, self-deprecating intro that transitions into a central theme: the absurdity of forced conformity, whether in fashion (like wearing sweaters in hot weather) or social norms (like mandatory mealtime togetherness). The host critiques Josh Welch’s insistence on wearing sweaters despite summer heat, drawing a parallel to other instances of parental overreach and societal pressure. The conversation extends to internet culture, where the hosts discuss offensive slang like "rug muncher" and scrutinize Candace Owens’ alleged dating profile for sexually explicit content. A Gen Z fashion segment highlights the shift from crew socks to no-shows, contrasting with older generations’ habits and sparking generational conflict. The podcast also delivers a sharp satire of Mark Zuckerberg’s fashion choices, framing them as a symbol of elite complicity with authoritarianism and a lack of personal conviction. The hosts confront mainstream media’s failure to hold billionaires accountable, calling instead for real ethical questions about power and corruption. Finally, they address the rise of "food divorce" as a realistic, modern marital adaptation, and promote a new book on fascism as a tool for understanding political reality. Throughout, the tone is irreverent, self-aware, and deeply critical of societal trends and institutional failures.
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black triots brown triots um and any wait fuck i fucked the whole thing up all right let me start
it over start again patriots gay triots they triots black triots brown triots and anybody
who doesn't support fascism we love you and all of the triple trumpers can do wet pumps
i mean i'm off my game in the intro and you're never off your game and you didn't even make fun
of my clap that almost missed so you are it's a new me it's a new me a new new me um all right
pumps what have you had it with okay i am a slave to the things that i i'm i'm just i always buy the
same thing i buy the same brand of pretzel i buy the same lipstick i buy the same vape that's just
you know i'm a slave to the things that i i'm just i always buy the same thing i buy the same
same lipstick i buy the same vape that's just you know i'm a slave to the things that i i'm just
i'm just i always buy the same thing i buy the same brand of pretzel i buy the same lipstick i buy the
same thing i buy the same vape that's just you know i'm not super like i'm gonna go out and try
new things that's not creature of habit creature of habit that's what i was looking for okay of
late my vapes missing in action you can't find them they're out of stock everywhere my dog food
the dog food store is not take uh carrying it anymore my lipstick that i've worn forever and
donald trump experience they're coming for your dog food your lipstick your vapes like everything
is fucked up and i'm so i've had it with not being able to find the pretzels that i like i mean come
on this should be that hard there's these trader joe pretzels and trader joe's is just out of stock
they're just out and i've gotten on their website and they're not they don't say out of stock they're
you want me to go to the trader joe's in new york and see if i can secure you some in your trench
code do you know how many times i have cussed you for running around in your 55 degree trench you
know trench and i'm still hot in oklahoma sweating my ass off it's infuriating that it's still so
fucking hot but there's no such thing as climate change but yes i would love for you to go and see
if they just i'll do that after we film i'd be happy i'd be happy to step out in the 60 degree
and my trench coat maybe take cha-cha and tubby and just because you can take your dogs into the
store in new york and go get you these pretzels because maybe that's one thing we can fix pumps
maybe i hope that would be really take a picture of what they're supposed to be and send it to me
okay all right but i'm out okay speaking of like sweating and it being hot okay i've had it with
josh welch trying to force a sweater so you know how people will put on instagram like chasing summer
i've done this before like i'm in mexico in november and i've posted chasing summer i've
jumped on that bandwagon you know had it with me for doing that but you know people like chasing
summer josh is chasing fall at all times and the biggest conversation that i've been having with him
post ear issue after we got through all of the ear stuff is the sweater issue and josh loves wearing
a sweater and we've talked about this on the podcast before and he loves to force a sweater
and i often say
you know you're forcing the sweater it's summer he didn't care he doesn't care so uh last weekend
we went to los angeles for our youngest son's parent parents weekend at the university of
southern california and it was particularly hot in los angeles i'm talking high 80s all right
that is hot for there that weather was available on our smart devices the weather forecast well
in advance of our packing to go and josh
often finds himself in a situation where we are going to a summer destination or a place
that has warm weather whether it be unusually warm or or right on par for being worn despite
the advanced warning of what the temperatures are going to be this mfr always throws some
sweaters in the suitcase and in doing that then we have to you know he narrates everything right
do you think i'll be able to wear a sweater and he starts what are you going to wear
do you think that you can wear a sweater i'm like i'm not going to wear a sweater because
it's 88 so i'm not going to wear a sweater so we still we're going through like now we're on our
100th um conversation because even when it's 88 during the day in la when it drops down to 70 at
night it's kind of a crisp 70 california there's a crispness to it so he's talking about how he
he and roman end up going to the fontaine's dc concert one night big band that they love
at the hollywood cemetery and josh was talking about if he was going to wear a sweater
to the fontaine's dc concert
and i had to go through about a 20 minute back and forth with him about it and then he says to me
you know i have this problem with some of these sweaters where i'm getting deodorant on them
and i said are you like putting it on and the deodorant it's an error and putting them on and
you're not you know stretching out the bottom to go around the armpit and he's like no i'm sweating
and then i'm seeing like a sweat mark and so what do you do
to avoid this and i said josh the fundamental thing i do to avoid sweating in a sweater
is wearing my sweaters when it's cold i don't wear sweaters in 80 degree weather and that's
just right out of the gates the number one way that i avoid sweating in a sweater that's my
top advice for you i mean right out of the gates the number one way to eliminate sweating in a
sweater is don't wear sweaters when it's hot he absorbed that and he accepted that and then we
realized that's not the right way to avoid sweating in a sweater so i'm going to avoid sweating in a sweater
he was kind of using the wrong deodorant and so we worked through all it was a function of the
deodorant not wearing sweaters when it's hot at the end of the day he did acknowledge that wearing
sweaters forcing a sweater a forced sweater um could be uh problematic with exacerbating any
form of sweating that maybe the deodorant didn't cover but the conversations that i have to have
with this man about a sweater i'm not going to avoid sweating in a sweater
it's it's constant and it the only thing that i can liken it to was when he had the ear problem
when we spoke about the ear all the time when he had the ear surgery forced ear surgery
you see a theme parent forced sweater remember when he was talking to the boat driver in italy
about his ear he spoke zero english yeah because he was just so desperate for somebody well and he
had a captive audience he would he would just listen and listen and listen without ever responding
or disagreeing
here's my thing i hate to defend josh because i know i've seen him when it's 90 degrees in july
for 100 degrees and he's got a sweater on like i i feel you on that yeah but when you live in
oklahoma where it's 108 degrees 82 and 70 at night feels almost chilly it really i mean it really does
does it to me 82 at night feels chilly i always walk outside with that humidity and i'm like oh
let me just tell you i mean it is really chilly i mean it is really chilly i mean it is really chilly
it has been like 82 at night when i take the dogs out 80 i am just like oh my gosh it's almost cold
because you walk out and it's 108 and you're like fucking i'm gonna burn up so i kind of have
a little sympathy for that because you're going to california it's great sweater weather and i
have found okay so one day last week it was rainy and i was going to the gym and it was like okay
it's going to be like low 80s in my head josh welch popped in and i thought i could take a
sweater and put it on but then i realized no you really can't but when i walk my dog super early
in the morning i will wear like instead of like shorts or a skirt or something i will wear long
pants if it's like 79 because that is chilly to me nowadays for all of those parents out there
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for full disclosures. I appreciate you trying to defend Josh. I do. I appreciate it. And I think,
you know, y'all have known each other longer than you and I have known each other. And I dig that
kind of loyalty, but it needs to be dismantled because there was a lot of propaganda in that.
And let me just point you to the Wimbledon tournament, July 2022. July of 2022, July.
Josh and I go to Wimbledon. We're big tennis people, huge tennis people. Josh, huge sweater
guy, right? It's distinctly summer. It's distinctly a summer tournament. It's July.
J-U-L-Y. The day before we go to Wimbledon, we go to the Ralph Lauren store and Josh finds this
gorgeous, gorgeous cable knit sweater, white, Wimbledon white. And it was a great sweater.
He said, do you like this sweater? And I said, I love this sweater. I'll be goddamned. The next day
he puts that sweater on and we, and it is the force to be all forces. It is the end all be all
force. There's no planet wherein this particular day at Wimbledon, I believe it was 89 degrees. The
forecast was right on. It had been predicted 10 days prior. There's no planet that a rational
person would think I'm going to wear a sweater to this tennis match. So this is not, I know that
you're trying to apply, oh, he's looking at an 80 degree and thinking, oh, I might be cold. That's
not what this is.
This is a skirting of the system. This is a skirting of mother nature. This is a, a, a forced
situation that I'm forced to talk about. Now, all of our listeners are forced to hear about
the forced sweaters. It's force on top of force on top of force trickling down a force
is what it is.
Let me ask you this though. And I have not noticed this
Josh. I mean, I know you were saying that he sweats in his armpit, but he's not, even if he's
not, he's not like dripping sweat. He's not like a super sweater. You're not a sweater at all. I'm
the super sweater. Like if that were me, it would be, my hair would be wet. I would have it dripping
down my face, but he's not an overall sweater, right? No, he really isn't. I mean, we exercise
together when, uh, we are in the same city and, uh, and we were, we really train hard and he's
not like a, a major massive sweater. Now, if we play tennis for a long time outside, we're both
but I'll tell you what he knows when you're playing tennis outside, he knows you can't force
a sweater there. He's dressed appropriately and dry fit clothes. So he does have it in him.
You know, he does know. Yeah. He just loves his sweaters. It's just like his would be.
He does look super cute in sweaters though. He does. He does. He's so he's like to,
to come full circle on this. Josh is always hashtag chasing fall.
Yeah. Yeah. He's always chasing fall. He loves the fall. And I do too. It's there's something so
great about a seasonal change. All right. Welcome to I've had it. I'm Jennifer.
I'm Angie. She is the head beaver in charge.
Head beaver. Oh my God. I forgot. I am the head beaver in charge.
You know what we were talking about earlier? This is just, I'm just going to have to Kylie get in
here. So we were talking about earlier, we were filming an IHIP news for those of you that are
new here. This is our fun podcast, Tuesdays, Thursdays, longer format, but daily we have
IHIP news where we talk about the news of the day.
And it was brought to our attention on Elon Musk's free speech website,
formerly known as Twitter, now called X, that there are rumors swirling all over that place
that Candace Owens is a big old lessee. Now I don't know if it's true or not, but we found
a tweet from that guy, Milos Yiannopoulos. And I guess he was whistleblowing on this
long before the newest poster was. And he referred to her as a rug muncher.
Pups and I, just, we die at shit like that. But we used to like back in the day, if you're Gen X,
our language that we use to describe shit, I mean, it was like, if somebody was a lesbian,
be like, oh yeah, that rug muncher. And that was just like, that was just, it wasn't even a thing.
Now I feel like it's such a slur. So I agree, but I do still cut. No. And lesbians, you know,
y'all are my favorite out of all the letters. Lesbians are my favorite. I want,
I want lesbian presidents. I want lesbian CEOs. I want, I'm ready to usher in the matriarchy.
And I want the lesbians to be at the top of that matriarchy. And then the straights can pursue
below the lesbians. But I have to say the rug muncher is hilarious.
It's hilarious. And we should just say it without thinking about it.
Are we being bigots?
I think that as a lesbian, maybe I can bring this back.
Cause that's right. It's probably better coming from a lesbian than a straight.
I could start throwing this around.
Rug munchers. Yeah.
Rug munchers. Okay. Let me tell you this. I didn't say this on IHIP news because
it's pretty graphic, but there was a trend in Candace Owens posting. Okay. So on these
four alleged accounts that her, are her lesbian dating accounts and her Candace Owens now stuff,
she's constantly talking about, instead of saying like lesbian sex or,
it's always licking vaginas, vagina. It's very graphic.
I actually have this screenshot. We didn't cover this cause we cover very serious topics on IHIP
news, but this is from her alleged dating profile. I'm a college student interested
in meeting up and fucking, I like to lick. And I'm sure anyone will enjoy.
It, it, it, it, they kind of, in that way, I was like, Hmm, that's just weird. Okay.
I have a question. So is that if, if,
let's say hypothetically that pumps wanted to get on a lesbian hookup site,
is that the language that is used in lesbian circles? I like to lick.
I don't find that appealing to be honest. Yeah.
Do you see, I mean, I guess you've never been on a lesbian dating site cause you've
had the same girlfriend forever. I have. Yeah. I mean, I've just been on dating
sites for the lesbian side. Okay. But does it say licking vaginas and vaginas on vaginas?
Most people, it's not so sexual, right? That's what I'm saying. I just found that to be a
through line because it showed some of her posts from this alleged account versus her
real posts. And they're, so you're saying she's talking about licking in her, just like
her front facing persona and her front facing persona. She says something derogatory. Like
you shouldn't be talking about vaginas, rubbing vaginas. And I just was like, well, that's,
it's kind of weird the way you said it.
Especially coupled with the shit that I was reading. I don't know. Maybe I'm just reading
into things, but I thought that was a through line. I think it's worth us keeping an eye on.
What else do we have going on? We'll keep you advised.
Yeah. And we've got Trump doing all his crazy shit, but that's kind of gotten boring. It's so
bad. It's just so predictable. I mean,
he's the most boring, crazy person there is right now because it's the exact same plot every day.
I can't even laugh. I can't even, he is so painfully boring and painfully
unoriginal right now. I mean, lame dementia duck. All right, Kylie, what's next up?
Okay. I've got a one-star review and luckily it's been a while since I've seen one of these come
through. One star titled a waste of electricity and time and they write worthless.
What I appreciate about this post so much is that they took the quote time.
Right.
To post it.
And the electricity.
That they wasted their, they wasted both their electricity and their time.
And their time to call us worthless. What I love about the one-star reviews
is they have the same energy as a five-star review.
Yeah.
But the fact that they did it in spite takes more energy.
I agree.
And so I really appreciate, I appreciate that he used his both electricity and time.
All right, Kylie, what's next?
Okay. I also have more Gen Z submissions from when we called.
Oh, I love Gen Z.
Sock Advice, their STD results. So if we want to play a couple of those.
Yeah, I do.
Okay. Here's the first one.
Hi, Jen, Pumps, Kylie, and Seth. I'm Vanessa. I was born on November 30th, 2001, Sagittarius.
So I am a Gen Z. And in 2023, 2024, I did test positive for chlamydia and got it taken care of,
for your example. And I just wanted to update you guys on the sock situation.
I think you're right on board with the lacy little socks that Jen's
son's girlfriends are wearing. A hundred percent, you can wear those with a flat
or a Mary Jane or a loafer. And then what everybody else seems to be wearing, or at least
what I deem acceptable, is just your average, I can't bend, I may be 24, but I have the legs of
an 85-year-old, just a crew sock. I love a crew sock.
A short crew sock.
I love a crew sock.
I love a crew sock.
You're right on track. No-shows are completely lame now.
So I first
of all want to um talk about how grateful i am that you are a chlamydia survivor yes and that
you are also highlighting uh survivors of chlamydia and removing shame and normalizing
so kudos to you on that number two thank you so much for the tips on this and i just want to say
the little crew socks that's what we wore all the time yeah we were bullied by millennials yeah and
then we had to go no show and right now as i'm sitting here i'm doing a no show i mean look at
this yep she can bend by the way her legs yeah the no show i wear the no show every day to the gym i
do i wear i don't i don't i need to go i need to go sock shopping i need i need a gen z to take me
sock shopping i know my youngest son and his girlfriend are coming to new york for fall break
when
we finish recording this i'm going to text the girlfriend and just
sos i need that's a great idea i need guidance i am out in the ocean swimming and i need somebody
to throw me a buoy and you are my buoy and take me somewhere who who else what other gen z-ers
do we have okay we've got a gay triad next hello jen pumps kylie seth ryan although i've had it
i hipsters um my name is emerson i am currently finishing out my contract working on a cruise
ship that is run by a cartoon mouse as a dancer um and oh yes i'm a gemini and i am gen z so i wanted
to give a little sock demonstration this is my little sock storage container let's see we got
black ankle length we got blue ankle length we got white no-shows we got oh a singular white
note don't we all we all have that oh these are mismatched mismatched blacks singular black no show
and
one more white i think these are kind of matched like you could get by you know i do my best here
um oh yes and std results i did get chlamydia earlier this year but received treatment from
the medical center on board and you know when you live on a cruise ship you got to do what you got
to do i just love the podcast love the show you guys have really got gotten me through the past
nine months living at sea i just adorable i i'm just so excited about everything that we're going
to do and i'm so excited about everything that we're going to do and i'm so excited about everything
that we're going to do and i'm so excited about everything that we're going to do and i'm so excited
about everything that we're going to do and i'm so excited about everything that we're going to do and
i'm so excited about everything that we're going to do and i'm so excited about everything that i just saw a great
idea survivor that was led by the brave leadership of our own crab survivor the star of our show pumps
who who normalized saying yeah i'm a crab survivor yeah i had it i had crabs i had crawling over all
over my pubes awful i combed them all out i didn't shave it off how many times did it take for you to
get those crap like three it wasn't just a one and done three treatments but what i what i particularly
like about emerson emerson had a little uh its own little packing case and the variety
the variety it goes back to you pumps variety is the spice of life you know uh you know
you're you're a creature of habit with all these pretzels and stuff but maybe you need variety we
need variety in socks i need variety here's the thing on the cruise talk i thought i bought some
cruise socks like the short crew socks we were the long ones like back in the day they were like
halfway up the shin were yours jennifer no mine were like my little cheerleading socks that would
wear with our asics they were up about this high and so i was a brink bobcat cheerleader go bobcats
and uh we had a little white sock that didn't go up too high i would say about
i mean the size of a sport cock you know not a jumbo
donkey dong but a sport penis height and then it would have these two red stripes around the
top of it yeah yeah yeah yeah and then a paw like two paw marks for the bobcats and then as i
progressed through school then i was a westmore jaguar in high school and we were still able and
our colors were red black and silver and uh we would have both black white with the black
circles with the paws in between the two lines and the paws were critical you know because it was like
you know we didn't have the crowd yeah we well i went to a a suburban school district outside of
oklahoma city called more public schools fun fact about more schools every school's mascot is a cat
of the cat family feline feline family so like our uh our our rival at westmore high school was more
high school and we had the more war and they were the more lions and they also used the paws and so
yeah i would say we had a mid-size mid-size uh not too low not you know like an inch out of the ankle
not too high like the dorky ones that older generations before us were like pumps but yeah
for me you know it was about this big yeah mine were sport cop in high school size that
that was about right they were higher in junior high but that would make sense with the age
difference but yeah it's a pretty big age difference pretty big age difference it's really not that big
jen i've got a there's a trend for you to look out for right now it's crew about length you call it
sport cock sport cop link and it's slouchy so they kind of i used to do the slouch so i remember the
slouch right now slouchy sock yeah we used to wear there was this store called units and it was one
size fits all and they were in the mall and you they had like a pants skirt a type of top sleeveless
top sleeveless top long sleeve and they had these belts that you put on with them and i remember
wearing units and y'all have to look at it look up units 1980s trend and i had my mother and i would
go to the mall and we had just a ton of units and you could mix and match them and all of this
stuff and i would wear the slouchy socks with my units outfit and i thought when i had on the unit
stuff i am h o t s h i t exclamation point bold neon underlined i couldn't get enough of the units
i've got did you do the different units belts so like you'd wear unit shirts and a unit skirt
and then use like five or six or three or four different colored unit belts so it's just yeah
there we go there's units yeah those are units and i was not afraid at all to put on a slouchy sock
um i don't think i would wear like three belts at one time my mother was uh of the my mother is of
the school of thought if you've got it flaunted so she would think that me having too many belts on
at one time would not be figure enhancing um so yeah but see yeah see the girl where the belt is
units and i remember you'd go into the stores i remember exactly what it looked like and everything
was folded in these like plastic containers and it was all one size but then you put the belt on
and it just anybody could wear it did you guys do matching were you pat worth like in junior high my
girlfriends and i would match on purpose oh for sure which one tomorrow yeah i think even first
day of school junior high would roll out like what are you going to wear we're going to wear
the same thing yep and you know one thing that i feel bad about the kids
the gen z's the the act of note writing and the origami in which we use to fold a note
and all of the like you'd write the note like dear pumps
mrs jones is being such a today her class is so boring but timmy's sitting next to me and
he smells really yummy today and then you draw like a nose or something with it and then we'd
put on our notes would put scratch and sniff stickers and then you'd fold them a certain
way and we all knew how to fold like this origami style note then you'd find your friend in the
hallway and you'd pass the note and then you'd open it and hide it clandestinely under your book
and then you know write a response and you'd find your friend again and the act of note writing was
so good and then there was always some big you know snafu where a note got lost or a note was
shared that shouldn't be shared that said some really nasty things just great stuff yeah that's
right it was exciting to write notes because there was a lot of fun with writing notes and then you
know it was exciting to write notes because there was always the chance it could get caught like the
teacher could pick it because we would do it in class so when the teachers confiscated notes yeah
that was the worst but i mean you kind of lived in fear of it so it it edged up the excitement of no
passing in class for me yeah yeah i love i love the i love the gen z-ers with the socks keep them
coming i actually you know what let's open this up a little bit i want next up next round millennials
millennial um listeners where are you guys on the socks y'all are the ones that bullied us out
of the crew socket into the no show and then what happens and y'all were the young shiny new
generation hot no wrinkles etc now you know life's coming at you pretty hard yeah as it does fast
gravity's coming you know tits are not as perky and you know we're probably got some that needs to
be botoxed etc and now you have the young shiny uh gen z-ers coming and bullying you about the no
show socks and so let's just i i want kind of a generational uh feedback i want to i want to do a
little check-in with the millennials okay you heard all okay and you can send those flood at
kylie josie on instagram all right i have a story that i would like to share with the class today mark
Zuckerberg. I just want to remind everybody, this is a young man who is one of the richest men in
the world who walked onto Joe Rogan's podcast. And he said, he's so great that masculinity is
back because when Joe Biden was president, he felt like he had been neutered. And it takes a special
fragile footing on masculinity for an 80-year-old, quote unquote, sleepy Joe Biden to make you feel
neutered. I mean, Joe Biden emasculated you. But nonetheless, of course, the New York Times wants
to immediately provide cover for Zuckerberg, much like they did Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez.
Here is his new profile in the New York Times. Pop this up. Mark Zuckerberg is trying something
on. And I just want to say, nobody cares. Exactly. We're going to cover it because it is insane.
The capitulation.
And the ass-kissing of our institutions, whether they be government institutions or our great media
institutions, you know, the paper of record, if you will. Kissing Mark Zuckerberg, a complete,
total piece of shit that knows that his product gets kids addicted and won't let his kids use it.
All right. Put up the next one. Mark says, I think if I started wearing suits to work,
people would freak out. In an exclusive interview with the New York Times, Mark Zuckerberg,
meta-CEO, talked for the first time about his style evolution. The profile opens by glazing
over his evolution from gray hoodies to boxy t-shirts. Zuckerberg's fashion sense, or lack of
it, has been well documented. From the laxity of his early California days to the gray Brunello
Cuccinelli tees he upgraded to during Facebook's growth. But his Damascene dressing moment happened
during COVID in Hawaii. He started experimenting,
with, quote, fun shorts that no one could see on Zoom. Then friends introduced him to MMA,
which led to the boxer fit. Fighters wear a lot of oversized clothes, he said, a kind of reverse
flex. Everyone knows I'm in really good shape, so I don't need to show my muscles. Not unlike
how the scruffy clothes of a boy genius entrepreneur were a flex. But when Zuckerberg
finally went public with his new duds,
it was a surprise to everyone. The story continues by infantilizing the fifth richest person in the
world. Fashion-wise, he seems to be experiencing a sort of delayed adolescence. This is stuff we
did in college or in high school, said the designer Mike Amiri, who helped Zuckerberg
design his first high fashion t-shirt in 2024 with Haute Zuck, Haute Nile embroidered across
the front, Latin for All Zuck.
I don't know what to say about Zuckerberg, but he's a great guy. I think he's a great guy.
He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy.
Zuckerberg is doing this in his 40s with unlimited resources. But ultimately, Zuckerberg can't stop
himself from sounding like a psychopath. Zuckerberg makes most of his purchases on Instagram,
occasionally browsing before bed because he finds it calming.
I don't think there's ever, I don't think he's ever been in a store, Chan joked. I think that's
his wife. When he first started shopping on the app, he used his personal email, credit card,
and home address for shopping. Lately, Zuckerberg has come to appreciate polos and collared shirts
as a compromise between the anti-suit tech world and the reality of having to meet with
world leaders. His plan, he said, is to find the 20 polo collared shirts that I like best.
That's like a fire.
That's a fun thing to do, right? He says each of these things lend themselves to like fun
explorations, especially because, he continued, you start buying some shirts and then you get a
lot more ads for shirts. And then you're like, okay, these are better shirts than the ones I
bought yesterday. The algorithmic shopping experience he describes is the kind of often,
is the kind often criticized for hooking users. But when asked if his new interactions with the app,
have made him think differently about it, he said, "I'm not sure," and gazed off to space. Then he said, "No."
Oh my God. Okay. These fucking billionaires, we do not hate them enough. We do not hate them enough.
Mark Zuckerberg at 40 and multi-billion, hundreds of billions of dollars lately discovered he likes shirts. Fuck off.
Right.
All right, let's get on with it.
Let's get on to the people that trolled him in the comment section of the New York Times.
Alice 2B Music posts, "What gifts did his PR team bestow on the Times for this? Ad revenue, perhaps? We couldn't care less about this
billionaire's style evolution."
Odie Brick writes, "Of all the fashionable, cool, caring people in the world, @NewYorkStyle strokes the ego of a billionaire literally no one wants to
read about."
And Asset Studio writes, "I think he'd look great in an orange suit with shackles."
And that last one is exactly where I want everybody's head to be because this is a guy who has no conviction, who feels like an
82-year-old Joe Biden neutered him, who's just now discovered the joy of picking out clothes for himself. Really? We have this infant child that's getting
all of our kids addicted to all of their shitty apps. I hate him. We do not hate these people enough.
Here's the thing. When I was reading this, okay, a couple things jumped out to me. Number one is MMA friends. That's a tell. His house has a vintage U.S.
flag and a big eagle on the wall. That's a tell. Like all these things you think, these weird patriotic deal. And then here's the thing that just made me incensed.
I don't care if people like me. I just want people to understand me. Shut the fuck up. Why, if you're one of the richest people in the world, you're fucking, you just
settled a $1.7 billion lawsuit. You've got all these lawsuits. You've got these perf glasses. You're doing all this crazy shit. Why do you care if somebody
understands you or not? And I think this is kind of a offensive attack before that news
social reckoning comes out with Jeremy strong portraying Mark Zuckerberg, because I think from
what I've read, it's kind of a takedown piece. So I think it's probably like we have to write
something positive about Mark Zuckerberg, but we, it's so bad. His pitiful past fashion choices
are the only thing we can think of. Here's what I, he wants people to understand him. And I just
want to share with the listener how I have come to understand him. Um, initially he made a website
to, um, objectify women to rate them and hotness. I believe that was the initially what Facebook was
right, Kylie. And then it evolves into something that could parts of it could be like you're
connecting with old friends, et cetera. And so he trucks along whatever the whole situation
was saying that Joe Biden neutered you. And you said that out loud on tape on the most listened
to podcast in the country for some reason, dipshit Joe Rogan, but whatever. And then you run cover
for your buddy, Elon Musk, who somebody made, uh, Alex Gibney made a four hour takedown of what a
piece of shit deadbeat loser Elon Musk is. And they want to run ads on meta and you choose
not to, and you choose to go to the white house and kiss Donald Trump's ass.
When you have enough money that you don't have to do that. So here's,
here's what I understand about you. You personify this lie that we think.
If you're really rich, you're liberated. You're completely liberated. And I see you as a man who
is in shackles in shackles to Donald Trump, because we hear it. I have news. We'll never
have hundreds of billions of dollars. We'll never have a billion dollars ever. And we are freer and
richer than you. Because if Donald Trump asked me to come to the white house, I would tell that fat
fuck to go fuck himself from top to bottom, to left, to right, to fuck himself in the mouth, to
fuck himself in the ears, to fuck himself in the ass. That I want no part of anything to do with
that piece of shit, full stop period. And here you have all of this money that you could have easily
done that. And you chose to go play patty cake with the biggest dipshit evil buffoon on the
planet. So that's what I understand about you. It's not what you say in your New York times
article about discovering shopping, but it's what I understand about you.
It's about what your actions show me who you are. Your actions show me that you
are a disconnected piece of shit that thinks that the New York times can, uh,
saying wash your depravity by talking about the fact that at 40, you discovered it's nice to buy
different clothes. I mean, this is not unique. This is not original. These billionaires are the
worst. The next president, in my opinion, needs to erect a museum called the anti-fascist museum.
And in the stone, I want people's name funders
of fascism, collaborators with fascism. And I want Mark Zuckerberg's name there. I want his
wife's name there. I want all of these billionaires that did this because elites prop up an oligarch,
elites prop up the fascist. Donald Trump would not be this powerful and acting this unhinged
without this many industry titans bending the knee to him. So what I think about Mark Zuckerberg
is he is neutered. He is a neutered, no ball, teeny weeny, bad dresser, piece of shit. And I
will always think that and nothing will ever change my opinion of that ever. I don't care
what happens because I think we're going to win the midterms. I think we're going to get the
White House back. That goose is cooked for me. It is as cooked as it can be. But you know,
here's the thing. I, I, I, I hate saying this, but I believe it. I think that you're right.
But I think the 2028 president, let's say by the grace of the world, it's a Democrat. I don't think
a Democratic president will tell all these billionaires to fuck off. I don't. I think
they'll just play. You know, you're probably right. The Democratic party that we've had,
fuck, no, they won't. I mean, I wish we would get somebody that would just say,
fuck you and your money. Go build your bunker. The only thing I'm going to talk to you about,
big boys, the taxes you're going to pay and how you need to raise the wages for your employees.
Those are the two conversations I'm willing to have with you. I do think a president should sit
down and talk to them and talk to them about being good people, being good members of society.
You want to talk about being an American, then pay your fucking people great wages,
give them great benefits, be a philanthropist for God's sake. Do something besides all this
jujitsu bunker building bullshit crap that you do because everybody hates your guts.
If I was president, I'm trying to help you, buddy. I'm trying to help you.
Be innovative.
Be innovative in the sense that you come out and you say, as a billionaire, I'm going to do
something that is looked down upon. I'm actually going to, every single employee that I have right
now, I'm going to double their income and guess what? I'm still a fucking billionaire. All the
taxes y'all want me to pay, guess what? I'm going to pay every single one of those. Gladly,
I'm going to go to the IRS offices myself, write the check in person to show that after that,
I will still be a billionaire. And so, I mean, no. Well, the Democratic,
Schumer or Hakeem are going to do any shit like that and be like, hey, what kind of donations can
you give to us? And we'll, you know, we'll keep the DSA away from you because, you know, we don't
want you to be shackled with any undue taxes. You're a victim of all of this, you know? So,
I mean, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens.
In reading that article, though, I did, the whole time I was like, because it was long.
I mean, it was a pretty long article. I was just like, why is the New York Times,
like, what is the point of doing this? I mean, it's a pretty long article. This whole thing. What is the point? So, I would love to know why that-
It's just a sane wash, Em. It's PR shit. All of it's PR propaganda to sane wash all of the shit
and provide cover in institutions folding. And the New York Times is one of them
that is not a consistent resistance paper. This is folding them. If you want to do an article
on any of these people, do it on their greed. Do it on how they play victim. Do an article
and ask him about, did you really feel neutered? Joe Biden, the 82-year-old man,
genuinely make you feel like your nuts were twisted off your body, Mark. And I know that
sounds funny, but I point blank would ask him that without even laughing at all. Did Joe Biden,
you feel like your nuts were twisted off, stuck in a drawer somewhere, and now they're reattached
and bigger? You feel like a big boy now that Donald Trump, who's an adjudicated rapist,
who's covering up for pedophiles, and you go sit down for dinner with him?
What do you think about pedophilia, Mark? That's what needs to be asked to these
people by the New York Times. So all of this is just providing cover, providing propaganda,
because there are real questions that need to be asked to these billionaires,
real questions, and why they support the human rights violations. Mark, how do you feel about
the fact that the United States government shot Renee Good in the face with her black lab in the
backseat of the car three times, and then the guy called her a fucking bitch, and then the United
States government called her a terrorist? Mark, how do you feel about that? Do you regret your $1
million inauguration? Do you regret going to the Xi Jinping circle jerk dinner the other night?
Because nobody really gives a fuck about what you wear. We all care why you run cover for this
criminal regime. And that would be real journalism. But what we're seeing are all of our institutions
fall all the time. So this puff piece, nobody wants. And in fact, I would argue it makes
everybody hate Mark Zuckerberg more than they did before. I really hated him. And the New York Times
just shot him. I really hated him. I really hated him. I really hated him. And the New York Times
showed me I didn't hate him enough. I've got more to give. Don't be a pussy. I was an underachiever
in my hatred. Okay, let's move along to our next story. And I just want to say the reason we're
talking about this stuff is because this podcast, I've had it. I think it's important that we
document for the permanent record this shit that the New York Times and so many people are running
morally bankrupt billionaires that act like they're neutered victims. I mean, it's insanity.
Okay, let's move along. Some couples pumps are trying a new method to keep the peace at home.
Pop this up. On the rocks, couples turn to food divorce to save relationship. Welcome to the era
of the food divorce, where otherwise happy couples eat separately, even when living in the same house.
Younger generations are driving the shift, ditching traditional breakfast, lunch, and dinner for solo
snacking on the run to survive packed schedules and tight budgets. Post-pandemic, mismatched work
shifts, meal prep burnout, strict diets, and the explosion of GLP-1 medications like Ozempic have
only amplified the divide. Studies show the burden of meal planning falls disproportionately on one
partner. Turning dinner to a meal plan is a big deal. And it's a big deal. And it's a big deal. And
enter into a breeding ground for resentment. On the flip side, a food divorce can derail
intimacy, especially for the two-thirds of U.S. adults who view food as their main love language.
Okay, so the love language thing goes all through me, but that's different. That's not what we're
talking about. I just, I don't know. I think if you want to eat separately, I'm a terrible person
to ask. I like being alone. I was objectively terrible at marriage. So to me, I'm like,
if you're hungry, you want to eat. I don't know why we have to do everything together.
I mean, I do think a couple, you know, if you want to have meals together, great.
But if it always falls on one person, that would piss me off too. So I don't know. It's just hard
for me to relate to this. You're the happy married person. What do you think? Well, when we're not
discussing the four-part question, I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. We do a little bit of both of these things. It's a mixture. We don't eat every meal when we're
together. We don't eat every meal together. And then sometimes when we do, like we'll go to a
restaurant and then he'll say, do you want to split something? And I'll say, sure. And then we
choose what we're going to split. And then Josh has a million modifications and I immediately get
resentful. So my new thing when I'm dining with Josh, because I don't cook,
so I never have. I'm not, I'm not a person that cooks food. And so when we go to, to eat now,
I, I'm such a cunt. I'm just going to say that from the onset. Okay. I understand what y'all
see in me. I get it. Guilty as charged. But now I go and I will sit down at the restaurant.
Roman and Josh and I went to a restaurant recently and the gal come, the waitress comes up
and I looked at her and I said, I'll have the cheeseburger exactly the way the chef,
you are exactly the way the chef wants it to be prepared. And I looked over at Josh and I looked
over at Roman, like, and so she said, great, that makes it easy. Cause it was some kind of like
special burger with a special sauce with it. And I just, I looked at it and I knew it was going to
be a minefield for Josh. I just knew it was going to be a minefield. And so I just out of spite
and sheer cuntiness.
I was like, I'll have the cheeseburger exactly the way it's presented. She's how would you like
it cooking? I go, however the chef would like to cook. You are torturing him on purpose.
So then we get over to Josh and it's, well, I want the cheeseburger, but I don't want this.
I don't want that. I want this on the side. So, um, I think that the whole idea of this article
highlights the problems that people feel once they get into a relationship.
The reality is some meals you have together and some meals you do eat separately. This idea that's
thrust upon us that we have to have every meal together, sit down as a family is not sustainable.
Let me just tell you why for a multitude of reasons, let's say that you're, you don't have
kids. Somebody works late. Another person didn't get to have that big of a lunch. You need to take
care of yourself. And if you live together, of course you need to be able to say, I defer to
whenever you need to eat. And there are going to be certain nights that are date nights. And, you
know, there are going to be certain days that you don't need to eat. And then there are going to be
certain days that you don't need to eat. And then there are going to be certain days that you don't
their activities are so overwhelming. These kids are signed up for so much shit
that this idea that young trad wives, I assume, think, oh, we have to sit down and eat every meal
together as a family. It's just not, it's not realistic. And so I think almost the way it's
framed is this idea that society projects what marriage is going to be like, what family is
going to be like. And it's this, you know, togetherness and this tidy unit of unity at all
times. And it's just simply not that. Sometimes you, sometimes your kids drive you fucking crazy.
Sometimes you hate your husband guts. Sometimes you love all of them. Sometimes you eat together.
Sometimes you don't. Don't make a big thing about it. If you are able to say, okay, on this night
is when we're going to do a big group meal, do it. And everybody else eat what you kill the rest of
the time. Do that. So I think kind of the framing of this is what leaves people once they get
married. And I think that's what I think is what I think is what I think is what I think is what
is like, oh, this is a lot harder than what I realized. I thought we were supposed to do all
this together. And really it's, it's unrealistic. I thought we were supposed to do all this together
and I thought we were supposed to enjoy it and I was supposed to love it. And what's wrong with me
that I don't want to do this all the time. I completely agree. And I, I think, I think
everything you kind of have to, you know, do, do your own thing. I think when you try to micromanage
people, that's when you get in trouble. I completely agree. I, I, I think that
I do enjoy, despite Josh's ordering the, the, the special requests side of this, none of that.
It is exhausting, but I do enjoy eating with him. I do enjoy when we go out or if we get takeout at
home, I enjoy it. But I also enjoy sometimes just eating by myself. Yep. Yep. I agree.
All right. Listen up. The book is a few days away from dropping. Not today,
fascist. Please pre-order it. Go to your independent bookstore to pre-order it and
stay tuned. I'm going to be doing an online book tour stop that everybody can attend.
And our fabulous friend, Ruth Ben-Ghiat will be moderating that. We'll have a date soon for
everybody to come make sure that you have the time. It'll be in the evening. And Ruth was
instrumental in helping me write this book. I find her to be,
intellectually intoxicating. And I find knowledge to be incredibly therapeutic,
even though all of this crazy shit is happening in the world, knowing what it is and understanding
what it is helps me know what we have to deal with. So please do me a favor, pre-order it.
And we will be back later with more grievances, of course.
Yeah.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The host critiques forced wearing of sweaters, especially by Josh Welch, arguing it’s irrational and unworkable in hot weather, and links it to broader themes of parental overreach and societal pressure.
The conversation shifts to online culture, including the use of offensive terms like "rug muncher" to describe lesbians, and a critical examination of Candace Owens’ alleged dating profile content, which the host finds sexually explicit and inappropriate.
Gen Z’s fashion and lifestyle choices—like crew socks and no-shows—are highlighted as a cultural shift from older generations, with nostalgic references to 1980s trends like Units and slouchy socks.
A generational critique emerges, where millennials are blamed for abandoning crew socks in favor of no-shows, while Gen Z is now policing fashion norms, reflecting evolving social values.
The host launches a sharp critique of Mark Zuckerberg’s fashion evolution, arguing it’s a symbolic retreat from authenticity and a sign of his alignment with fascist elites, particularly Donald Trump.
The podcast critiques media institutions like the New York Times for covering billionaires with PR-friendly narratives instead of asking real, moral questions about their complicity in authoritarianism.
A "food divorce" trend is discussed as a realistic response to modern marital stress, where couples eat separately due to work demands and differing habits, challenging societal expectations of family togetherness.
The host promotes pre-ordering a new book on fascism, emphasizing intellectual clarity and personal resilience in the face of political extremism.
Summary:
The podcast features a lively, satirical critique of modern culture, politics, and relationships. It begins with a chaotic, self-deprecating intro that transitions into a central theme: the absurdity of forced conformity, whether in fashion (like wearing sweaters in hot weather) or social norms (like mandatory mealtime togetherness). The host critiques Josh Welch’s insistence on wearing sweaters despite summer heat, drawing a parallel to other instances of parental overreach and societal pressure.
The conversation extends to internet culture, where the hosts discuss offensive slang like "rug muncher" and scrutinize Candace Owens’ alleged dating profile for sexually explicit content. A Gen Z fashion segment highlights the shift from crew socks to no-shows, contrasting with older generations’ habits and sparking generational conflict. The podcast also delivers a sharp satire of Mark Zuckerberg’s fashion choices, framing them as a symbol of elite complicity with authoritarianism and a lack of personal conviction.
The hosts confront mainstream media’s failure to hold billionaires accountable, calling instead for real ethical questions about power and corruption. Finally, they address the rise of "food divorce" as a realistic, modern marital adaptation, and promote a new book on fascism as a tool for understanding political reality. Throughout, the tone is irreverent, self-aware, and deeply critical of societal trends and institutional failures.
FAQs
The host uses this to illustrate how people can be creatures of habit, relying on familiar routines for comfort and consistency, even when those habits feel limiting.
The host argues that Josh frequently forces a sweater in hot weather, leading to discomfort and unnecessary sweating, which highlights a broader issue of ignoring environmental realities.
The host acknowledges that 'rug muncher' is an outdated, offensive slur, but finds it amusing and notes that it was once a Gen X-era slang term, now considered inappropriate.
Gen Z is seen as embracing practical, everyday styles like crew socks, rejecting the trendiness of older generations, and promoting comfort and simplicity over fashion.
The host views Zuckerberg's shift to wearing shirts as a symbolic retreat from power, criticizing it as a superficial act that reveals deeper complicity with political figures like Donald Trump.
The food divorce trend refers to couples eating separately, especially due to work schedules and meal planning stress, and is discussed as a realistic, healthy shift away from forced togetherness.
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