“Who Are the Modern Day Pharisees? – Part 1”

♪ Can't learn from our past ♪ ♪ All the things that we might have done wrong ♪ ♪ We're talking about doing this all alone ♪ ♪ Take me running with the fist-waste heart ♪ ♪ Let me hear you battle Friday night ♪ ♪ Stand beside, stand beside ♪ ♪ Put a broad knife ♪ ♪ Everybody wants a fist-waste heart ♪ ♪ Let me hear you battle Friday night ♪ ♪ Stand beside, stand beside ♪ ♪ Put a broad knife ♪ (upbeat music) - All right, welcome to sweet the leg. Okay, welcome to sweet the leg. Welcome to Frontline Army Church Podcasts, you're all with the most Mike Mac, but soon as says everybody doing today. - Hey. - Whoa, over here. So today is just going to be Saul, the wise man, Leo, the wiser man, and Mike Mac, because we're gonna pick up where we left off on last week because we got pretty political and we're gonna get even worse today. It's gonna be awesome. We're gonna piss a lot of people off today. I'm looking forward to it, so I figure we'll do a half hour on the topic I wanna bring up today, and we'll do another half hour on the emails to respond to Pastor Eddie and Tim. So, sound like a plan? - Yeah, I know, it's kind of, you and me were talking about this week that we both think that God put me on earth to piss people off. - Yes. - And I'm right there with him. - Yeah, and you're doing a good job. - So I mean, I don't, I guess sometimes it's on purpose, sometimes it's not like to be mean or anything, it's just. - We are commanded to bring the gospel to the inhabitants of the entire world. - I just seem to be able to tell the truth and do it brutally, honestly, when I do actually say the truth, and people just hate it. - Yeah. - So, oh, by the way, hey. - We were just saying goodbye to you. We're taking granted to the storm. - Oh, okay. I was gonna say my children will not be on the podcast today because they do not want to. - I'm gonna do a jury duty on Tuesday. - Oh, bye, I love you. - Bye, love you. - Yeah, but my doctor wrote a doctor's note and it's super inconvenient. It says, "But I have to bring. " - Say hi to Pastor Eddie, 'cause he'll be listening in. - Hi, God, hello. It says that I have to bring snacks, and you know, it's snacks in the courthouse, no food or drink, and every hour, I'm taking a 15 minute break, and every 30 minutes I have to stand up. So hopefully they don't just miss me. - Cool, you're just like, "I'm disabled. I can't do this." - Yeah, pretty much like I need a candy cane sticker on my hand. - Cool. All right, you're interrupting podcast time, so. - Yeah, good time. - Okay, bye, friends. - Love you. - Love you. - Bye, love you. - Bye, guys. - Don't go away, man. Just go away. (laughing) Love you. - Love you. - See you. - Bye, yeah. - So yes, the children will not be here today because of what happened last week. Okay, so here's what I wanna talk about today because I brought this topic up with Saul at work because of things that have been happening during the week. So I brought up this random topic, and I thought it'd be interesting. I said, "Who are the modern day Pharisees?" Because there's been a lot of crap that's been going on in the world. So basically, the Super Bowl happened, and we had two Super Bowl. - Did it? - The Super Bowl happened last Sunday. - I don't pay attention to this part. - Okay, so last Sunday, we didn't podcast because of the Super Bowl. Because we had the Super Bowl subs that we normally do here. So there's a lot of traffic, a lot of noise, blah, blah, blah. - Here's just a ton. - And we had an anti-American halftime show. - Right, you mean it's a tanning show? - So we had just a tanning. - We think they're all satanic. - We had the Olympics. - Okay. - Sarah Monizers all satan. - So we had two halftime shows. We had the so-called Christian one, which wasn't very Christian. And we had the normal demonic evil halftime show. - Which was right on the target. - Right on target. So, and bad bunny, if you read his lyrics, he did the F-bomb like 27 times in one side. - I've never heard of this dude before. - And the FCC is gonna be all over him. - He dresses like a chick. He wears devil horns. It's ridiculous. - So did people know who this guy was before him? - Yes, they did. Why did they chose him? - And he never knew who this guy was before last week. - It was a slap in America's face by the NFL saying, "This is our new rules. You are going to live with it. Shut the U-N-O-W-L." - Yeah, then stop watching the NFL. - So the turning point, regardless of what you think of turning point with the conspiracy theories and all this and that. Anyways, there's Kid Rock, who I've been, I've always been a Kid Rock fan. He did a Christian song at the end where he talked about Jesus good stuff, but it was supposed to be basically the family friendly show compared to that. But my point is, is that Jelly Roll, at the Grammys, he tore it up and he got up on stage with his Bible and basically said, "He declared the gospel in front of millions and millions of people." And it was amazing how Jesus changed his life. Jesus is not for a political party. Jesus is for everyone. Jesus can change your life. It was phenomenal. So guess who was destroying him? Christians. So who are the modern day Pharisees? Christians. That's who the modern day Pharisees are because some days I don't even wanna be part of this party called Christians. So we're gonna talk about how Christians are the Pharisees of today because it's annoying me how Christians are attacking one another when we should be building each other up. And it just, oh, that's how we got on this topic. So with biblical truth and. - You just said it all in the podcast. - I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, pissing me off. - I, I think I probably told you this before. I don't think I've said it on here. I have, sometimes I just feel like I'm the anti-Christian. - You're very much the anti-Christian. - I am. I'm like the anti-Christian, you know, not like seeking evil or against God. I'm the dude, you know, you know, reading the Bible, want to do what's right. I'm just the anti-Christian. - The first believer after the resurrection. The people in anti-act, the people in Galatia, the people in Philippi. They didn't call themselves Christians. That was a name given to them centuries later as a follower of Yeshua Mishyak, Mishyak, meaning Messiah, the Greek word is Christos, which is why they were called Christians. - Little Christians. - That was the way it, right. - Translations, Christian. - So they didn't, they could, they called themselves the way, which was supposed to be an add-on to the Torah with a new covenant, which Jesus said, this is the blood of the new covenant. And I talked before about Moses and a new covenant, and he split the animals and walked between them. He broke the bread, the sacrifice, then the blood walked between those to the disciples. So he made the new covenant in his blood and in his body. To state, now what I'm teaching you goes on to the laws we already have. And throughout the gospels, Jesus's largest, I don't really really use the word enemies, but detractors were the Pharisees. Now the Pharisees themselves are a descendant of Levi through the brother of Aaron. The priest in the temple, the normal, the colon, is the Jewish word for, or the Hebrew word for it, they did kept care of the temple. They were descendants of Aaron directly, but the Pharisees and the Sadducees were descendants of his brother, so that all kind of works into the deal. Jesus railed about, do not follow the talkin' out, or the man-made laws of the Pharisees. That's not what my father wants. We see a very good example of it in the chosen when Jesus goes back to Nazareth, gets up in front of his home synagogue and reads from Isaiah 53. Stops in mid-sentence, rolls his scroll up and gives it back to the other colon that are working there. Then he walks to a corner and he sits in a marble chair, the seat of Moses. The scripture says, "When they sit in the seat of Moses, due as he says, he is a relative pronoun. We have to break down the sentence. He is referring to do what Moses says, not what the Orator is explaining what he just read, not do what he says." And the Pharisees flip that on its head when we sit in the law of Moses, you do as we tell you. Not necessarily what Moses told you and they made themselves higher in the room. rest of the people of Judea at the time. So is that why? So obviously we have very good Jesus following Christians and then we have the Christians who are holier than now who think that they need to put you in your place. Those are the Pharisees that I'm talking about. For example, Jellie Rolls-Wife got on a podcast and says that the Christians that are attacking my husband are their whole reason why I didn't want to become a Christian because they're holier than now. They think that they know everything when they should not be the ones cast in the first stone. And you know, my husband's doing more for Jesus than they probably ever even get out of their own couch to do. You know, how can and it's like don't even say he's just starting to talk about Jesus when for 15 years you can go back to all of his albums and he's been seeking Jesus and you can see the fruit, the fruit of his journey with you know from everything from need of favor to God. Guess what? I need you like a genie in a bottle. I need you as a favor to guess what? Now I have a relationship with you. It started with God. I need a favor because I don't know how to do this whole prayer thing. I don't know how this relationship works. Now I have relationship with you but yeah, people are attacking him because he has to have to. So he has he's a drug dealer. He's swearing. He went to after party and he was doing the F bomb. Guess what? Saul does the F bomb. Guess what? Does that mean that Saul's no longer a Christian? I do the whole idea. I just did the whole. I'm sure to look exactly. So the whole point is we talk about fruit all the time on this podcast and are you growing? So this whole I don't know. The Pharisees thing in today's culture it makes me sometimes trying to get people to see Jesus is like, hey, I know Christiane gets a bad rap. You know, read, find out Jesus for yourself. Don't look at me. You know, I'm just I'm just a beggar trying to tell another beggar where to find food because you know, I ain't going to you know, I have no right to judge you or anything like that. But it seems that some people when they find Jesus all of a sudden they think that they they know it all and they like guess what? I don't know. You brought up a good point though when you said people casting stones. Yeah. What did Jesus do in that instance? When they brought the woman caught caught in the active adultery. Right. Did Jesus say no? We're not going to do that. He's writing in the dirt probably in Hebrew. Thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall not commit the first one. The first one out here. The first one of you condemn her. Cast the first stone. If you are so righteous and you have never sinned, you cast the first, he was the only one eligible to do that. Right. Exactly. And he didn't do it. And what did he tell her? Go and sin no more. Go and sin no more. That's redemption. That's repentance. That's her repentance. As far as we know she never did. Correct. Because true repentance is three is is a 180. Exactly. Turn. Exactly. I'll turn away. You're going now to your point. Modern day Pharisees again. The sermon that Jesus gives on the temple mount is all against the Pharisees. Whiteed seplikers beautiful and white on the outside full of dead men's bones and corruption on the inside. You cannot enter the kingdom of God nor do you allow anyone else to. You make up your laws and you demand the best seat in the synagogue. You demand acknowledgement when you walk down the streets from everybody. You take the best pieces of meat and fruit at all the bankwits because you're better than we are. That's the Pharisees that we're talking about. And we find that in many things that what we call Christianity today are doing. What do you want to say? Go ahead. You see that you see the disciples like trying to like see which one of them is the best. And you see them doing that multiple times. But Jesus goes them and says, you know whoever you want to be basically the leader needs to be servant of all. He has disciples that, well we're around Jesus. We're awesome. We're better than everyone else. No stop. You want to lead my people. You want to shepherd the flock. You need to be their servant. Don't put yourself up in the pedestal. You need to be down in the dirt with everybody being their equals. Humble yourself. If you can't serve, you can't be a leader. He that will exalt himself before the nation shall be a based. And he that is a base, he shall be exalted. And we have unfortunately a lot of, it seems like a lot of Christians get on the high horse. And they want to, you know, and it's a I'm better than everyone else or, you know, and it's the whole white and simple problem. Like what you see on the outside is generally what I am on the inside. I try not to have a difference. You know, I try not to, you know, come by all high and mighty when I talk to people. I just talk to people. I'm sure I come off as abrasive and rude and things like that. Like you're just getting what I am. I'm not trying to hide what I am. And to be, you know, walk, trying to walk around with a halo over my head all the other times. And I think there's a lot of people that do that. And we, we live, our culture in general is so, um, uh-oh, it's just the culture itself. We have that. And it's just, uh, it's a fake culture. We're all trying to impress everybody. You've got to be true to, you've got your relationship with Jesus. It's got to be true how you are individually. And how you are to the world. You've got to be true. You, the way you act with Jesus individually needs to be the way you act with Jesus on the outside with everybody. That's, you know, you can't put on an act for everybody. And then individually, you're, you're a kind of a plea opposite. That's, that's kind of what my music spotlight's about is, you got to be true. My relationship with Jesus got to be true the way I, the way I act to make the way I make it look to other people is how I really need to be with Jesus one on one, you know. Um, you got to be true all the time. And the way to not be a Pharisee is to realize, you know, there's the memes all the time I share of the biker sitting there praying, telling Jesus I'm a sinner where you have the dude in a suit like boy, I'm glad I'm not like that guy. And who's the one that Jesus is the most pleased with? The biker over there who's saying I'm a sinner, God please change my ways versus the guy who's over there in a suit saying boy, I'm glad I'm not like that guy. Well, that, that comes, that that comes right on the Bible, right on the Bible. That's the rich man and the poor widow that sits in the back. Yeah. He gave his tithe, what he was required by the law of the Pharisees and the widow gave two pennies. Yeah. Who gives more to God? The widow, the widow, she gives everything. That's all she had. Exactly. And that's what the Phariseeism is against. They don't want you to give everything to God. They want your praise first, which works wonderfully into socialistic governments because those top people and those governments want all your praise, everything you have to be theirs. And then they can manipulate you into a belief system, which is unfortunately what Christianity has become. Take baptism for instance. Catholics baptize babies. Nowhere are we commanded to baptize an infant. Jesus said, "Suffer the little children to come unto me. There's is the kingdom of God. We don't baptize children. We let young adults in the Torah tradition at the Bar Mitzvah and the Bat Mitzvah to become a number of the House of Israel." The Catholic turned that into confirmation. When you get so old, you take on a new name. You're a new person in Christ. Valdordash. It's not the same thing. You're buying into a structured belief-oriented target goal of doing what the guy in the white suit that sits in the middle of the room tells you to do. That's why when I did my baptism, I did it at a high school in front of all these people. In my teenage years, because it's something I knew I wanted to do, and I did it. I proclaim my relationship with Jesus in front of people because it's supposed to be a public thing. But I did it at a high school, you know, in public because it's something I wanted to do. You know, obviously it was a second baptism because I was baptized as a baby, but you know, it's not your choice when you're a baby. I get why the parents are doing it, but baptism should be your choice when you look at it. And they're good. The Catholic Church said, well, if you don't baptize a baby, they go to a certain place in the cosmos where babies are held because no, no, they don't have it. That's the talk of note, the man made rules of the Pharisees, and that's what you're talking about. Babies are the most innocent thing on the things, exactly. So I had a different thought than you from, you know, what, sorry folks, we're opening our drinks now, podcast that a kid. So there are Jesus talks about, there's two people that are standing before, I think they're saying for the altar, there's this Pharisees. I do all this, I do these, I do this and I do that. I do these other things, you know, I'm so awesome. They went all these clicks. They went all these likes. Back then. And then there was this, and then there was some guy, there was Lazarus. Well, I wasn't Lazarus, but then there was some guy and he just wouldn't even approach, he wouldn't even approach, he would just look down. He beat his chest and like, God, forgive me, a sinner. And then they said he went home justified other than the other man. And then they both die. And the man at the altar is in the bosom of Abraham. And the rich man is over there in she oil and she oil in fire. And he says, Father Abraham, Lazarus over here to dip his finger in the water, because I'm thirsty. That's the story. And there again, it's talking out the washing of the hands before you eat. Or you touch something. Ferrissey was. Torin never said to do that. You know, there's abundant things in the Christian world that we do. So that don't follow. How do we not follow down the road of a modern day Ferrissey? How do we represent Jesus the way we should where, you know, we don't get grouped into you're just one of those modern day Ferris. So this is a weird, there's a weird concept when it comes to politics. And it's kind of the right versus left mentality. And some people want to completely remove the other from social society, from governance. And it doesn't work without the concepts of both. So, um, general general idea is people who tend to be on the left tend to lead more with feelings. And, um, and people on the right tend to lead more with facts. I've heard it, I've heard it that way. The problem is if you, if you try to lead a country with complete feelings on the left, everything gets screwed up. It's never about the, you know, we just throw truth away completely. And we have this weird problem with today of, we can't tell someone who is trans. If someone says they're a trans woman, we are not allowed to say, well, you're actually, you are biologically a man. So you're a man. No matter how you feel, you're still a man. You're a hateful bigot if you were to say that. Well, that's the thing. So if you go straight feelings, you just, you have to throw out facts and the truth at all costs to keep people happy and to adhere to what they would call their truth. That's not, you can't run society that way. It doesn't work. It breaks down. We see that. But then if you go and you throw completely throw feelings away, everything is too crash. It's too abrasive. We just stop caring about, we stop caring about situations altogether and just like, nope, here are the hard rules. We have to follow these at all costs no matter what. There is no, there's no like edge case that we can even consider here. There are no special arrangements, no, no special rules for certain people. That's why in a perfect world, both sides would work together. You have, you have to put facts and feelings. I know people like to say, facts don't care about your feelings. You hear that from Ben Shapiro. To a point he's right, but if you don't, if you don't try to wed facts and feelings when you try to govern, when you try to live, it doesn't work. You have to have both. You have to. And I think, you, I guess with the Monterey Pharisee, I think there, I think you can see them on both sides of the equation. People who are so worried about other people's feelings, oh, you can't say this, you can't say this. You know, that you can't literally call, you know, you have what, JK Rowling said, trends, women don't belong in a woman's restroom. And the left completely wants to get a platform, cancel her and all costs. Like, you're being a Monterey Pharisee doing that. Correct. That's horrible. But, you know, if, you know, then you, on the, I guess I guess there's, there's less examples of it on the right that we've seen lately. But I mean, if you, if you don't care at all about how someone feels in a given situation, no, we're just going to do this. If everything is, we have to care about the majority of minority, all costs screw you. If that's the attitude, yeah, you're doing the same thing. Yeah, I talked about this a couple of podcasts ago. The alcohol use, the drug abuse or the homosexual. We love those people. God, told us to love them. Yep. Come to our church, learn about Jesus. Welcome them. Yeah. Until they change their way, do the 180 that you talked about, they could come to your church as much as they want and hear the word don't let them become a member until they make that leap of life. Right. To join you and proclaim, I'm going to follow this path now. My old life is dead to me. I cut it off. Right. That makes sense. And I'm going to travel in this direction. Right. But I still need your help to stay on the straight and narrow. Correct. That makes perfect. That's how you don't follow the Pharisees. Right. You, we've got the book right here in front of us. Right. Turn to the first five chapters and read them and laser engrave those five chapters on the back of your eyelids. Because those are the laws that God still wants us to live by for the most part. There have been changes. How to disagree. No. We were just discussing. We just started. We can find a final thing. We can find a final. Next episode. No. A woman shall not wear that which part contains to a man. Neither shall a man lay down with another man as he would with a woman or with a beast. That straight up shoots the LGBTQ community right in a rear end. Because that's what they live for. It's anti-scriptural. It's anti-God. God still loves those people. Yeah. He wants them to come back to him. But free will like in the Garden of Eden. Don't eat that apple. But you know what? If you want to go ahead, let's see what happens. I'm not telling you no, but I'm not going to stop you from doing it. Which is what God does with everybody. You have your choice. The choice you make is the fruit that your tree bears and you're known by the fruit that comes from your works. Must have been me. Yeah. I was like, what's been the phone? All right. So I think when we dive into the emails from Pastor Eddie and Tim, we can kind of hero kind of coincide with Pharisee stuff. Then we can maybe bring some more up later. Because they got a lot of good stuff. Big big big big stuff. So that's just a small taste of kind of where we're at with modern-eaf Pharisees. It's a lot there. So we might bring more of this up next week. Because can't just kill it all in a one podcast. But you can. So let's hear what our frontlighters have to say. So first up is good old pastready. The rev here's what I had to say hey frontline crew get ready for a long one I'm feeling like Tim today Once again great content today I had the podcast on in my office while I was working so my staff got to listen to so Staff I apologize if we've offended anyone today, but not really. That's just kind of how we roll so here we go That was for me not from pastready So I was just saying if we offended anybody, you know, but hey anyways forget it forget what I just said so I enjoyed the Why you gotta use big words bro? Still a lot of school a Conversation and I and how the wise guys think that we are in the last phase of the world as we know it I have had other people ask me if I thought we are in the last days and my standard answer has always been if Jesus didn't know when the last day was then I don't know either But one thing I can be sure of is this is that we are one day closer today than we were yesterday Which he always says I always know that they that we are called to be prepared for that day It doesn't say that we have to be perfect just prepared We need to confess repent and give God his glory I hear people say that it is our salvation that connects us. I disagree I believe that is our sin that connects us Accepting and believing what Jesus did for us on the cross is what separates us from the rest of the world Your conversation about loving our neighbor is such a huge is such a hot topic Are we political people are not? Maybe the question for the church is are we supposed to be political? I believe that we are all involved and affected by politics every day what I think we we have a What I think we have a hard time with now is being able to have a civil conversation in a society that is so dependent on Immediate to lead our to lead their opinions. We as sheep our program to go with what is most comfortable boy I could just I could just hear her right here just saying these words. What's a civil conversation? But Jesus is the good shepherd his sheep know his voice and he knows them and What if you're one of the 99 that go away Jesus always goes after you the media? AK the devil has figured out how to use our nature and divided us and conquer like I said The devil is out and about he hiding anymore aka the Grammys the Super Bowl All those people that are celebrating the Super Bowl you guys are ridiculous. Sounds like a great deception I I have seen Christians on my pot on my Facebook feed glorify that Super Bowl show how amazing it was because he said America because of the crappy said at the end about coming together like dude His content gaze on top of each other women twerking His lyrics it was all evil all right, bro. I don't care if he's talking about America coming together Do you realize he has a more Crazy Jeff. I don't whatever. I'm not going to go but they are bringing America together. Yeah, they're bringing America together under Satan. Yes Ah And I believe Satan's gonna control us by AI because dude it is insane. It's coming to it It's coming to do I just saw the dark night rises Alternate ending with AI with Christian and Bill and and half the way and it was as real as real can be and they are getting sued like I'm telling you AI just watch the Terminator man telling you anyways Back to where we are at This this display of civil unrest around the country is disheartening I feel like Jacob wrestling with God as I try to balance my Christian beliefs and political values I know that as a church leader my goal is not to use my political opinions to influence a congregation But I believe that politics is still part of the society that we are called to share the gospel too I have been working on some paperwork that I have to do about this subject. There are some These are some of the thoughts I have had and I will try to work through what it is to love To love my neighbor quote-unquote and still uphold what is biblical Leo mentioned about Caesar being on the coin and Jesus teaching that we have to be obedient to the government and God overall scripture reminds us that God has instituted governmental authority one God establishes nations and boundaries scripture teaches that Borders and civil authority are part of God's design for human society act 1726 Romans 131 From this view a nation has a God given right to define its membership and enforce its laws to obedience to law is a Christian moral responsibility passages like 1st Peter 2 13 through 14 and Romans 13 emphasizes that Respecting lawful authority is part of our witness So entering or staying in a country unlawfully isn't just a political issue. It's seen as moral concern 3. Scripture distinguishes lawful foreigners from lawlessness The Old Testament commands care for the foreigner but always within the legal structure of the community Leviticus 2422 hospitality in the Bible is compassionate but not borderless for Estimation Is a biblical theme foreigners who joined Israel were expected to identify with the people and their laws Ruth 116 even Israel when living in foreign lands was told to contribute to the prosperity of their new home Jeremiah 297 the idea is that Immigration immigrants should integrate rather than remain outside legal expectations 5. Justice requires fairness in Consistency due to an oronomy 16 stresses equal application of the law allowing illegal immigrants can be seen as unfair to those who Immigrate legally and as something that under undermines trust in public systems 6. Compassion doesn't remove consequences Biblical mercy coexist with accountability Psalm 33 5 John 8 11 from this perspective Christians can support kindness and Humane treatment while still affirming lawful Consequences which include deportation The roll 7 the role of the state differs from the role of the church the church is called to Generously generosity and care while the state carries Responsibility for justice and social order Romans 13 for supporters argue that maintaining borders doesn't conflict with Christian Compassion it simply distinguishes responsibility 8. Deportation is viewed not as hatred but as restoring order Christians who hold this view emphasize that love for the immigrants and support for legal Enforcement are not opposites. They see door deportation as upholding justice Encouraging legal pathways and maintaining trust. I think the images we see are what is breaking down the trust Because they exploit any action as inhumane treatment. I have to stop. I love you guys and miss you all peace Joel Miller the rev I think I got it think I got it right this time you jerk peace Paster Eddie So a lot of lot of good stuff there. I know I sent you the email So you could kind of digest that One thing he said and I think The whole not sure for in the end times you're not yeah Okay, so an axe to which Peter quotes from Joel to Oh, where's it X to verse 17 and it shall come to pass in the last days says God. I will pour out my spirit on all flesh At some point be at least in axe two I don't know when it started It appears like at that point is when the end days started Possibly At some point around there again, it could also mean at that time That believers in me and in Jesus I shall give them a part of myself to put into your body and my spirit will live in you because of the resurrection Because before that you didn't have access to God and his spirit will live in you and you will become part of him There'll be being counted as one of his people So there's a double meaning to that but he says in the last days They're saying that's all right and I get that part so it's almost like the crucifixion was possibly the marker of Yeah, the end is now the crucifixion was the renting of the veil in the temple, opening the Holy of the Holy so everybody could get to God. We have access to God's spirit now through our new high priest. Well the last days that's 2000 plus years, bro. Assuming it's been 2000 years and assuming the Malalina rain wasn't somewhere in the middle of it and a bunch of years taken out and we've been there's been a massive great deception. Here's your thing about influx of illegal immigrants. Doodaronomy 28, 43 and 44. The stranger that is within the shall get up above the very high and they'll come down very low. He shall lend to the and they'll shall not lend to him. He shall be lifted to the head and now shall be the tail. That's what's happening in America right now. Interesting. God called this. When you don't follow God's ways, you become basically the servant of everybody else, of the other nations. You're not in the lead anymore. They are not coming to you for things. You're begging from them basically. All right. Now for Tim. Let's finish up with Tim, which he has a really long one. So this is going to be good times. All right. Jesus and politics. So we're just going to make so many people mad with politics. It's great. So we're just going to, people are going to cancel us. It's going to be good times. What's the frontline crew? I want to start off just by saying how nice it was to listen to a podcast that didn't include someone eating into the mic or beating up on the table. Perhaps you should continue this trend. Mike, I mentioned into passing that you weren't getting going to get political and he got me thinking about the nature of politics and religion. I've heard many people say that the church should never be political. The church should only be about the gospel. And while I agree, I'm that to a point, it is impossible to separate religion and politics, especially in today's climate, allow me to explain. I've heard it said that you can't legislate morality. That is laws are not or should not dictate what is right and wrong. But that's ridiculous. Of course, laws are based on morals. We have laws against murder, theft, perjury, and assault because we believe those things are wrong. We have prisons and fines and courts because we believe certain actions are wrong and we need to enforce those laws. But perhaps you may argue that we're not placing any moral value on our laws, but we're just protecting individual rights. By that logic laws are by that logic laws against theft are not on the books because stealing is morally wrong. But because taking something from someone else's violates their rights to their own property. But even that logic assumes that violating another rights is wrong while other laws may be pragmatic, they are fundamentally moral in the nature. But what about the role of the church in politics in law making? Aren't we supposed to have separation of church and state? First of all, that phrase does not exist in the US Constitution as many believe. It originated from Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association. Jefferson was clarifying the First Amendment for the Baptist who were religious minority at the time saying that the US government would not establish a national church like England had done with the angelic in church. And yeah, and Joe. Yeah. In the US, everyone is free to engage in any religion they wish or none at all. The phrase separation of church and state means that the government cannot tell you who or how to worship. It has nothing at all to do with restricting individual churches from participating in politics. Second, I mentioned that religion and politics are in and actually really joined. Yeah, in twine. Take any politically issue you like as an example. Let's use ice and immigration. Here we go. Depending your stance on the issue, you're asking the question of the other side. Is it not right to enforce our laws or you're asking how should we treat people? Sorry, I just got a message. Are you asking how should we treat people specifically immigrants? Both questions have a fundamental moral component to them or take abortion. Conservatives are asking if it's okay to kill it on more baby. Liberals are asking if it's okay to take away a woman's rights. Both questions are moral in nature. Here's where the rub is. We need to understand God's words so that we can know where he stands on these issues and then we must align ourselves with him. It's also critical to understand the entirety of God's word because so many people like to cherry pick verses that seem to support their beliefs out of context but in reality are inconsistent with the rest of the Bible. For example, I have a friend post Leviticus 193334 on her Facebook page with no other context. Those verses say, "When a stranger s'jorns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who s'jorns with you as the native among you and you shall love him as yourself. For you were strangers in the land of Egypt. I am Lord your God, He is the On the surface, this might seem like a clear directive to not deport people that some are here illegally. But this passage actually has nothing to do with immigration law. It is everything to do with with loving your fellow human beings. But you might argue that to love these human beings who are immigrants means to not deport them. That is not logical or the conclusion does not logically follow the premise. To love someone and to treat them well has never meant to remove the consequences of their action. In fact, what we see as we look at the whole of the scripture is that God s commandments immigrants to follow the same law as Israel if they wish to integrate. Example Exodus 1248, Leviticus 2416, Leviticus 2420, verse 2. This brings us back to the question of whether or not the church should be involved in politics. And I believe it is a yes and a no. I think it is inappropriate to preach from a pulpit that we should all vote for a candidate A instead of candidate B. However, we need to understand what God says about the issues of the day and our worldview needs to be shaped by his word. We as the church are called to reach out to a very broken world. Practically speaking, I believe we can do that through politics, entertainment, news outlets, sports, and every other industry. Completely switching gears now. I want to touch on a stenology of the end times. That is your discussion on the end times. I hold all your beliefs very loosely because there are dozens of beliefs surrounding the end times that are scripturally sound, but mutually exclusive. For example, you can argue pre-millinium, post-millinium, or A-millinium scripturally depending on how literal verses symbolic you view revelation. But certainly not all of them are true. So while I do have my own beliefs about the end times, I'm not at all dogmatic about them. I do believe that revelation is not necessarily written as a chronological account that give us a play by play of the end times. In fact, after seeing so many scholars that have deciphered the code of revelation and calculated exact dates only to be proved wrong, I suspect that none of us have a good grasp on the end times. What I take from revelation is that evil has an expiration date and God is sovereign over all of us. And to be honest, whether Jesus is coming before the millennium after the millennium or the millennium is not to be taken literally, none of that changes my directive. I must obey God's commandments. Great point. That being said, I have no bones to pick with Saul about his statements on the end times. I eagerly await the day when he and I can compare notes in heaven and laugh all about the stuff that we both got wrong. The one thing I will say though is I looked into Tartaria. That was a Tartaria. Tartaria. A little bit and I am unconvinced about any kind of conspiracy to erase it from history. What I found was Tartaria or Tartari was not a unified empire but rather a general region in Asia and Eastern Europe that was a rant, a rantly, a rantly grouped into one name out of ignorance. I need better glasses. By the cardic graphers of the day, similar to how during medieval times most of sub-serrarian Africa was simply referred to as Ethiopia, even though most of it was not actually a nation of Ethiopia. I listened to a podcast where a guy was talking about the lost technology of Tartaria, and all of the evidence he gave could be explained naturally rather than through the lens of a conspiracy. For example, he cited the use of a gold in palaces and other important buildings as a sort of wireless, electronic, or conductor, which gold is an excellent conductor, but it could just be that gold has always been very high-valued, so of course you would universally put it in places. Additionally, if an entire advanced culture has to be erased from history, the culture elites would have needed to coordinate with all the world's powers to do so. This means erasing all documents and references from the mon, from the Chinese, the Turks, the Russians, the Persians, etc. And doing this scale of coordination would have created more evidence for a cover-up. Additionally, as far as I can tell, archaeology has not discovered any infrastructure, money, coinage, documents, or anything else that would have been left behind. All that just to say that I'm not convinced that Tartaria is anything more than a conspiracy theory. And I don't say that diminutively. I love a good conspiracy theory, especially if it relates to the corona virus. I could be completely wrong, but I don't see anything here. And if Saul has any specific sources he wants me to check out, please send them my way. I'm always fascinated when he talks about stuff I know nothing about. You're all doing great work, so please keep doing great episodes. I don't know if you're recording on Super Bowl Sun They Are Not, but my. No, we didn't. But my see-hawks are in it this year, so I have a team actively rooting for this time around. Much love, Tim. Okay. First thing. So, good times. First amendment. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Things that the government can't say, "I'm King George, you're going to belong to the Church of England. Boom, and the story. We can't do that." It doesn't say the government can't promote a religious belief, i.e. Christianity over Islam. Constitution didn't say that. You're up at the other point that was in there about the laws. They'll shut that steel. They'll shut that cover. They're neighbors' wife or any goods at the lawn. That's all morality stuff. Very close to what he was talking about. So our law is morality based in and from the pulpit, I think politics in general should be discussed, as he said, not specific candidates, but political viewpoints. Like it's like not saying. What is pointing us more toward God, killing innocent babies in the womb, or getting the foreigner out of our country that's hurting our economy? There's a choice there. The problem with the immigration things that Tim brought up, which is a great point, is the language. The people on the left, remember, left in the ancient, was always sinister. Being sinister on the left, Satan sits on the left hand of God in heaven. They play word-salad. An immigrant is a person that comes here under the laws of our country. According to you come here, you live a while, you go back, you come back, you live a while, you apply for a green card, you apply for a work visa. You follow our laws. You follow our laws. You spend seven to ten years here. And then you take a test proving that you want to be a citizen, you can speak English, you know our laws. An illegal alien walks across the border in the middle of the night and takes over our country, which a previous administration was fully behind. Walk across the dead of night, squat down, drop a kid. Okay, they're a citizen. Now I'm a citizen too. You have to feed me for the rest of my life. So there's a difference in the word-salad between immigrant and illegals. And right now, especially in Minnesota, which that whole, in my opinion, was set up by Barack Obama when he led all the Somalis into two counties around Minneapolis, which was a political district. They voted in Muslim representatives for that district. That's why we have them in Washington promoting all this garbage that's going on. And you have to allow federal agents to perform federal actions. They don't need warrants. There is an arrest out for these people for being in our country without proper documentation. And for committing crimes in our country, they don't get due process. They're not a citizen. If you're a citizen or you're here under our large ass trying to become a citizen, there are rights applied to you. Ice can walk in wherever they want. Whoever they want that doesn't belong here. It's all in the word-salad that they try to stir up the emotions of everybody to rail from the tallest soapbox in the town square. But my rights as a woman are being taken away because now I can't vote because my name now being Mary doesn't match my birth certificate. It's Baldur Dash. They accept a marriage license as a proof of documentation of who you are. They accept a driver's license to get a voting card. And everybody today who has registered to vote, you're still registered. This is for new people. This Baldur Dash is an old English word similar to poppycock or horse hockey or PS. Pretty much. Yeah, so it's a. It's a. Yeah, it's an ex-focative. I like. Well, my wife watches Ozzy Osborne where Jack tries to make them believe in paranormal crap. And he always says, "That's ball lightning." So that's what he used to use. Ball lightning is real. Yeah. That's ball lightning. I saw one. Hit their house one. So ball lightning does exist. Well, I think we upset enough people for today. So let's roll into our music spotlight. All right. So the music spotlight today I got. Oh, so I just want to say God has done some healing in my life with music. So with the whole jelly roll, kid rock and all these things, so I'm like. So God's been using all these crazy people to minister to people. So I actually let DC talk back in my playlist because as Tim said, their music doesn't change what they did for me in the past because it did change my life. I mean, something. I mean, I think it's a great thing to do something in the future, which obviously will never happen. That would be different. But me erasing their music from my past, like me listening to the Jesus Freak album, which is my favorite album of all time, that still gets me close to God. I still worship God through that album. So even though it's a healing process, so I actually played Jesus Freak DC talk version at work this week. And it was cool. It was like, yeah. So God's kind of healing me a little bit there where I can actually listen to some DC talk. So that was pretty cool. But anyways, the song I have today is a Stephen Curtis Chapman, which you guys may know back in the 90s, but he had a guess about what Toby, but this song is called "God of Me True." And it's all about being not a Pharisee, I would say, about being a true follower of Jesus, how you have to follow Jesus 24/7. You can't put on a fake show the way you are with people in church, the way you are with people, and the public with your relationship with Jesus needs to be that way how you are with him individually. Because sometimes when you think you're alone, you know, you think you can do whatever you want. And that's your most important time with Jesus is when you're alone. That really tests your relationship with Jesus. This is is when you're alone that really determines how close you see you when you're sleeping You know when you're awake. Exactly. You've been better good Exactly So so next guys you guys can come up one of you two can come up with the music spotlight next time so and are you excited about the or Friday 13th concert, bro? Oh, yes, yeah, you get vacation after it's that's great and it'll be cool because Yeah, it works. I was not there before Passover is it No, it's no, that's that's it's March 13th before that's like a couple weeks Okay, cause Passover is 677 I haven't looked at calendar yet. It's like two days before three is for Eastern Well, if you want to write in feel free to do so at frontline army podcast a gmail.com We'd love to hear from you Might get into some more next week just as the I know we didn't really talk a whole lot about the modern day Pharisee stuff But it was more of a frustration thing of I just I don't want to be a modern day Pharisee You know when people see me. I want them to see Jesus. I don't want them to see hypocrisy. I don't want them to see I don't want them to see You know Just fakeness. I want them to see Realness that you know Jesus changed my life and that's all I want and I just want to be our true example Have my fruit show, you know, and the last thing I want to do is be one of those holier than now people You know because I'm just then I'm just the beggar trying to show another beggar where to find bread so Amen. So you guys got anything to say before we close up? I don't think so. I think we Pretty much we scratch the surface enough to make some people angry rough. We know where we're going. There's some feathers. Yeah We're gonna get more political as the more political I like it come bring some more Bible and they're more more More Jesus stuff back into there and how we should live our lives and we move forward. I like it As long as we back everything up with the word. It's all that matters, right? So good times All right, well you guys have a good one take care. Hurry up Wonder what my lead at this point you hear me sing and I'll be doing that acoustic guitar So by now you probably wonder what's the one on cuz this is really starting sound like one of those Raps on why me tell you what the boys up to you see I like rap music and the beatbox Sometimes I got admit I close all the doors and wave my arms around and I face the floor But then I cracked a bluffing I got to stop and just face the facts the boy don't give up You see I grew up in a state where the grass is blue so if it's gonna be believable, it's gotta be true It's got to be true I gotta be do what I say I believe it's got to be true If a man nobody believes it, they watch it made up to be true Every single man of every day If anybody's ever gonna look at me and say hey it's got to be true You hear me saying that it's gotta be true and now my homeboy Toby wants to talk to you I grew up in a state where the grass is blue so if you're gonna look at me and say hey it's gotta be true Check it out I got an extra neighbor and I can tell he's been watching my behavior young He heard that I'm a Christian guy he wants to know if that's a true or a lie While we gotta list the reasons not to believe like doubt, disillusion, hip-hop is received It's gonna take some living proof to break the thru-beast walls so yo it's gotta be true It's got to be true, I gotta be do what I say I believe it's got to be true Every single man of every day, if anybody's ever gonna look at me and say hey it's gotta be true You're supposed to do just the ought to be true You hear me saying that it's gotta be true You hear me saying that it's gotta be true It's gotta be true, I gotta list the line of Jesus left, come shining through It's gotta be true, I gotta be do what I say I believe it's got to be true Every single man of every day, if anybody's ever gonna look at me and say hey it's gotta be true It's gotta be true, I gotta be do what I say I believe it's got to be true Every single man of every day, if anybody's ever gonna look at me and say hey it's gotta be true It's gotta be true, I gotta be do what I say I believe it's gotta be true Thanks man, I'm wondering if you guys would ever consider a fourth guy, maybe he's talking like a pussy It's hard not to hear it and there's somewhere else Yo that's the only thing he's training you man You know how we've been saying that you gotta be true Well I think rapping is most definitely not like you