Who Are The Best Transfer Quarterbacks + 1 on 1 With Andy Staples | The BFW Show 8.13.26

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What's up, everybody. Good to see the chat. Can't see your names are covered up. I see boomer sooner. I see BWF time. That's not my name. Ryan Stein. Good to see everybody Madison, Mississippi, checking in in my Z checking in. Brandon, you are not fat checking in. Thank you, Kyle McDougal. I appreciate that. Good evening to everyone. It is Brandon Walker College football show. We're not quite there yet. Still got about two weeks before we have some football and everything like that. Hey, Liam. Hey, brown Walker. Nice to be here with you. All right. So tonight on the show, we will have what tonight's show is brought to you by Del Mars and Manta Chi Mississippi. Del Mars best milkshakes in the state of Mississippi. Try their Fruity Pebble milkshake until we get a sponsor for the show until we get a presenting sponsor. I'm going to be shouting out my old sponsors and Mississippi Del Mars and Manta Chi Mississippi. Go check out go check out their Fruity Pebble milkshake. It's delicious. Also got a great chicken tender there. Del Mars. Anything else? Okay. Yep. Anyway, so tonight, any staples coming up at the bottom of the hour, we've got my top 10 transfer portal quarterbacks and it's, I'm going to show you my ranking, but don't get caught up on the ranking. I really just wanted to excuse to talk about these 10 guys. Then I have my top five teams. I don't know what to do with. And then we have a couple of J Daniels thoughts and we have a couple of one more thought that I would like to do. No free ads, buddy. They used to give me milkshakes all the time. All the time. I was covered up in Fruity Pebble milkshakes. It's just unbelievable. Unbelievable milkshakes. Anyway. Hey, Liam. Hey, brand. That milkshake sounds great. Play it. All right. This is your bed. This is your bed the night. No, what? What? What? What? No, no, no, fine. No, go on that show. Go on. Liam, how's it going? It's going very well. Thank you for asking. Happy beer. I'm excited for tomorrow. I'm excited for a night as well. All right. What's tomorrow? Taking my grandpa to the doctor. Okay. That is that your bit for the night. Yes, for the day. It's my bed. I can't be at work tomorrow. So I got to go. I'm going to doctor. And you got to take me to the doctor. You know what? Do that. Take me to the doctor. But you wouldn't you wouldn't even know how to get out of Chicago. Say no more. I'll be up on the train. All right. So here we go. Thing number one tonight. We have four things. Voice mails. Andy Staples. That's what we're doing. Four things. Andy Staples. Voice mails. Not in that order. Nice Albany helmet. Thank you. Um, Liam, bring me bring me back one more time. I am in in talks with Tulane about one of the new helmets. One of the new, um, Marty grow helmets. I don't know if I'm going to be able to get it. But I'm in talks. I'm very high up to Tulane. So hopefully I'm working on that. I got Albany right now. I got Texas Tech. I got Arizona State. And over here I got your vintage because your Iowa State, your Nebraska and your Minnesota. But the shelving and the shelf spots are absolutely up for grabs. If you want to send me a helmet, I'll put your I'll put your high schools. I'll put I'll put whatever I don't care. But I am trying to get the Tulane Marty grow helmet. Um, who's the potato in your shirt? No, this is not a potato. That's cousin Shane. That's cousin Shane from the SEC podcast. Do good work over there. That SEC podcast. Excuse me. Um, all right. Here we go. Thing number one. Thing number one is my top 10 transfer quarterbacks. Bring up the list. Bring up the, um, well, just what I just go through them. I won't fail them, but I really just want to talk about them because if you look over the last couple of years, who won the Heisman last year, transfer a quarterback, who won the Heisman year before, doesn't seem like it, but a transfer who won the Heisman year before. Trans, transfer when the Caleb went in when Jayden Daniels went in, which one won it first? Uh, the years escaped me. I know. I know. I know. Okay. Uh, so 20 was Devote Smith. You're the Heisman guy. 21 was Bryce Young, I'm working through it. 22 was Caleb and 23 was Jayden Daniels, where I have those flipped. Who won it first? They weren't the same draft and Caleb came back. Okay, so Caleb won it first. Then Jayden Daniels won the second. Yeah, yeah, back to back. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. So, uh, anyway, transfer quarterbacks. We've had a lot of transfer quarterbacks. When the Heisman had a lot of quarterbacks matter this year, we have several teams that aim to be in the national title hunt and they are leaning on quarterbacks. Let's bring up my top 10 transfer quarterbacks. And I will talk about each one because not every transfer quarterback is built the same and who knows who's going to be a Fernando Mendoza and who knows who's going to be a who's a bust of a transfer quarterback. Liam. Payed a lot of money, didn't amount to anything. Oh, you're on the spot. Who's a bust of a transfer quarterback? I'm thinking through it. Well, okay, that seemed like you can talk. Yeah, I'm just going to think about bad transfer quarterbacks. Sure, sure, sure. Oh, eight in child's last year was a dull. Okay. Now, number 10 transfer quarterback in the country this year and make sure I'm saying it right. It is Kate and house, right? Is it Kate is Kate is Kate, right? Caden. Caden. Yeah. Caden. House are. Caden. House are a little annoying. And I got some respect for him because I got respect for Bila. I got respect for that program. I mean, they made a good quarterback. I have Luke Altmeier. And if you can do that, my God, what can you not do? So I've got, uh, oh, by the way, transfer quarterbacks Jackson Arnold. Thank you. That was a bust of a transfer last year DJ. Oh, yeah. Thank you very much. Wegman. No, I think Wegman's been pretty good at Houston. Take Martel is one Jackson Arnold is probably the best best example. Jackson Arnold was what? They paid what two million foreign last year and just got nothing. But that was also poor coaching. Uh, number nine transfer quarterback. And this is a guy, Liam's going to get to do his list. He's still here because of upside DJ lagway at Baylor, but upside can only get you so far. And last year was such a remarkable disappointment. Now he had a shitty coach and he was in a shitty situation. Now he's going to, I guess a better, a better coach. I guess a better situation, but it's not like he's one of the best situation in the world. It is now his chance to turn this thing around. I got DJ lagway there based on upside number eight. I've got Colton, Joseph going over there to Wisconsin. Uh, this is a guy I, you're going to hear more about Wisconsin in a minute. But this is a guy that I'm very curious to see. They've just been such a dead end at quarterback the last couple of years with what they tried to do. And now this is the latest attempt to get out of that number seven Rocco back at Penn State. I bet Liam's got him higher. I just think he's pretty good. I think he's pretty good. I think all Penn State's going to need him to be as pretty good this year. Pretty good. It's probably going to get you 10 and two or 93 at Penn State this year. But he's not. I don't think he's going to be Darian Menta. I don't think he's going to be, you know, Jaden Daniels. I don't think he's going to be any of those guys. I got him at seven at number six and five. I have two guys that you're kind of just guessing on that you're kind of just absolutely projecting Kenny midget Kentucky and bring up Lincoln King holds at Louisville. Two guys are playing for offensive geniuses. Two guys who are playing for good coaches. Two guys who are now in the state of Kentucky. What an hour away from each other. Mention is definitely a guess. I think King holds I think is more of a sure thing. But I like them both at six and five. Number four. I got by one brown at Auburn. And this is where I won't start talking. Where I won't start talking. I'm going to take a drink. Why is the chat saying Bobby would I say that wasn't Bobby that's the same Bobby is like Bobby. It's like Bobby just like to say oh it's the same guy okay well okay uh Walker looks like a corpse that's just not nice that's not that's not sweet we're we're a sweet podcast here watch this Liam you look wonderful tonight thank you brand you look all right yourself I know I gotta look at my face look that like a fucking corpse uh KCO says phase on Brandon greater than all of them and that's what happens when you get a stupid ass dumb ass in bread Tennessee fan and here we're talking about my quarterback was not a fucking transfer how am I going to put him on the fucking list of transverse fucking moron um number three drew a messed-a-maker drew messed-a-maker he is coming up from North Texas he is they they're bringing everything they're bringing everything with him was he good last year because they threw every down in a conference that you know competitions was just okay is he good because Eric Morris was able to take advantage of him in a conference that wasn't as good as as what he was building there or is he really truly the return of Oklahoma State I I think of Oklahoma State over the last 20 years it was quarterback quarterback quarterback it was good good good now it's been bad for a couple of years I don't know I got him at three he could be at one by the end of the year he could be outside the top 10 at the end of the year uh we've got number two Josh Hoover and number one Darien Mense at Miami those that's my 10 that's what I think Hoover I like I like a lot he was good at TCU but he was also bad at times at TCU he turned the ball over a lot and I'm just not sure I'm not 100% sure how signety's going to deal with a quarterback if the quarterback is a mistake prone he hasn't really had to deal with that Indiana if the quarterback is a mistake prone makes a lot of mistakes leads to them giving the ball away against Ohio State leads to them giving the ball away in this game I don't know how signety's going I don't know I don't know I was going to wreck but maybe maybe signety and that coaching staff work it out of them with Mense I think he's the shortest thing on the board Hoover can out number one on this list Mester maker could be number one on this list Byron Brown could be number one on this list but Mense is the surest bet on the board that's what I think somebody says Aaron Filo at at Florida sure I guess even though we're not 100% sure are we sure yet he's taking the job that was for you look at Liam oh I'm sorry I thought you were just talking to Chad I'm sure he's going to take job I like Filo a lot actually did you not what's on your mind I just fucking forgot Sam Levitt yeah I thought you did that intentionally to be no I didn't I would you know what let's redo the list here I just fucking forgot him I wrote him down that was a purpose you guys are fair you guys are fair here but I don't have him that high I the whole rigs I did the list was to talk about levitt I would draw a line right at seven and eight I probably put him at eight Sam Levitt is going to have the best situation of any quarterback not named Darian Mensa so we're going to put him in eight we're going to take Kate and house are off of there and we're going to just drop him in eight behind behind Rocco Beck Sam Levitt is decent and he's got the best situation but they got a 40 million dollar roster and I look at Sam Levitt over the last couple of years who went to the playoff a couple of years ago when he had Jordan Tyson and elite receiver he had a scatter bow and elite running back and those guys carried so much of the load last year when scatter bow was gone they couldn't do much even though they still had an elite elite elite receiver now he's got good receivers Alice you but he doesn't have Jordan Tyson he doesn't have scatter bow and he's got a coach is going to throw him right in the fire they're going to be in big games immediately Clemson Ole Mass right there in September they got big games early if they're going to win a national title Sam Levitt has to be really really really really good I don't think he's capable of being really really really really good but I think Wayne Kiffin is capable of making a lot of quarterbacks really really really good so this is the guy that confuses me this is the guy that really makes me think what do we what what do we make of him because I don't I just I just don't believe in Sam Levitt I believe in LSU I believe in Lane Kiffin I don't believe in Sam Levitt what have you got I have Sam Levitt right smack dab in the middle of my list we'll start with 10 and nine for me I'm taking the page of Ebo's book I didn't rake nine and ten I'm leaving that open so I like the chat here Shay Dawson says lagway over Austin Simmons is isn't saying lagway is awful and this is where the emotional bitches that follow college football just ruined everything why don't you talk about Austin Simmons I'm a maturity fan Austin Simmons played two games last year and played so poorly they couldn't get him out of the job fast enough he was not good he was bad he was handed the keys to a Ferrari last year slammed it into the wall in two games thank god for them they had to run into that canvas he wasn't good when Lane Kiffin gets a new job does he go and pick up the quarterback he decided to start with last year no he wouldn't got Sam Levitt what does that tell you Austin Simmons the reason I did this list the reason I did this list some of you guys are begging for your quarterback to be on there Florida fans are saying please I'll suck your dick if you put our guy on there Missouri fans are please show me show me our guys show me Austin Simmons it ain't about you the whole world ain't about your feelings Austin Simmons was bad last year why do I think he's gonna be good this year continue Liam yeah that might be one awkward car ride for a father that begged you to stop cussing on your show fair nine and 10 are available for discussion I am open to being impressed chat you have brought up Kalandria you have brought up Jade and Craig there is lagway there are all these guys cutter bully Marcus Stokes it's up for discussion I am ready to be impressed eight is Byron Brown seven is keenholes I think keenholes is fastening I just need to see him throw the football consistent basis sure Levitt Levitt's a guy where I just don't know what to do with them so I want in the middle of us he could be as high as one when the sense he could be at 10 when this ends um highs and lows man is he all there with his character and everything don't know Colton Joseph I think has some of the most potential of any transfer core back in the country I don't think people realize how sought after Colton Joseph was this was kid that was all set to go to Vandy until the Jared Curtis flip Wisconsin get some could be could do wonders for Luke fickle and his job security Colton Joseph is in the electric two way Thrower and runner the kid could do both um rock go back that before I think the schedule helps some with a gang a higher ranking here he still throws a nice football and everything men's is at three I'm not as uh I'm a men's a guy but I'm not as sold on him being as sure of a thing as you are I think when you watch the men's a tape he it is littered with highs and plenty of lows he takes risks uh to Josh Hoover I disagree with you I think signety and that offense that they've got going to Indiana really helps the quarterback limit the turnovers it's going to do wonders for Josh Hoover where it's more about the mind than the arm talent and the kid has great arm talent number one speaking of arm talent drew mess the maker the kid makes throws all sorts of angles to the far hash list that he is fascinating he kills it with his receivers with that deep long speed mess the maker I can't wait to watch the exciting Oklahoma State again Brando yeah yeah I am too I'm ready to welcome Oklahoma State back to uh major college football I hated I've hated the last few years and uh we talked to Andy Staples in a minute and he he talks about Oklahoma State and why he believes in him this year I hated the last couple of years when that when Oklahoma and Texas left the big 12 I really thought it was Oklahoma State's prime opportunity to grab that league by the the throat and be the big dog in that league and they did the exact opposite that Gandhi just does not embrace the portal he does not embrace NIL he's not embraced the new era of college football and immediately grandfather is his way out of the sport just says you know what I'm done I I don't understand this new uh era Oklahoma State has a new coach who knows what he's doing they open the purse rings and bam they're right back into it um but yeah there are other guys like Kalandria at Nebraska is interesting to me I like Kalandria and Nebraska there's a lot of interesting guys I don't know we we really should go back over the last five years and think what was the best year of transfer quarterbacks is I don't think this will be remembered as the best year of transfer quarterbacks I I truly don't believe we've got a Fernando Mendoza in this group unless it's meant so unless meant so you know grabs Miami by the by the collar and drags him to an national title not really drags them they're loaded everywhere else uh but anyway so there you go there's my 10 and I went back because I was about to get a look he's asked in front of all of y'all that's about to get a look he's asked for messing up my list the list I sent him an hour ago I forgot Sam Levin on that too so that's that's that's just me and the entire reason I want to talk about this topic was Sam Levin so Sam Levin to me right in the middle of the top 10 I think he's what holds LSU back this year I like to say these things in the beginning to give them a chance if Sam Levin just puts it in my face wins a heisman wins a national title bam just just Sam Levin shove it right down my throat fight wait time what I got a call pause there who said who said what you you you said something gree just play overlooking uh Michael Hawkins at WVU not even a peep You know what JRS I hear what you're saying? I would counter with I would counter that by saying the unfortunate Reality for West Virginia and you is I actually saw Michael Hawkins play football and Watching Michael Hawkins play football was the number one way to decide Michael Hawkins isn't a very good quarterback at playing football And that's just me. I do like to judge quarterbacks by the way they play football and unfortunately He can't That's what I have to say about that Add number one Not a number one. You shouldn't just shouldn't just say it like that. Jeff under Stern is gonna kick ass. Thank you very much Casios fart. That's that's that's that name Let's see if someone is better at Harvard than Fitz magic. They need to be number one on a list What was I supposed to put the Harvard quarterback on the list only transfer to TCU? Okay, all right. I did mention them as a H. Okay, all right, all right, both per viola. I said both per viola. I Had to take talk the other day where I was talking about transfer court or quarterbacks in the ACC Now I said I thought per viola was pretty good last year and the internet went fucking wild Missouri fans showed up. They're like, uh-uh. He was he was awful Meanwhile during the season. They're all trying to beat me up because I said about per viola whatever Reese's Reese's peanut butter cups. Is there anything better than what I hold in my hand right here? William Blumman. Oh, no sir. William Blumman the Reese's peanut butter cup. Just the old school Very good peanut butter cup and get at the gas station the grocery store road trips movie theaters wherever you're going in this world If you just stop for a second, you can probably find a Reese's peanut butter cup very near you and they have all the varieties They have the PB and J they have the strawberry. They have all sorts of things. They're doing with Reese's I like the good old fashioned peanut butter cup. I think nothing goes better with football than this right here The peanut butter cup races is the official candy partner of barstool sports go get races wherever you shop Let's check on the chat a little bit. Let's say great show Brandon. Thank you very much So you guys aren't saying anything very good Missouri fan Missouri owns Brandon. I have no idea how I Think I picked him to go 10 and 2 last year. I think we go to play off Brandon both we'll suck down a stretch. That's fair. That's fair That's fair. Yeah, I'm loving. What were you gonna say? I was just saying Mizzou owns you right? Mizzou on me green Greg. It's true. It's true Let's go to thing number two and thing number two. How's West Point football this year now? That's a good question Climbs and ducks West Point football new coach our trader of a coach last year went to Starkville That's one thing you don't do. I'll never speak to him again and is assistant But anyway, they can anyone start. Well, West Point has a new coach who's already on the staff offensive line coach Roger Burton And then we bring back zero starters on defense So we're gonna have to build the defense but West Point Mississippi West Point Greenway was built on defense We've been playing defense in our sleep teams don't come to the graveyard and score points So just just be careful Nico Dark Horse for Heisman No Thing number two five teams I don't know what to do with five teams. I don't know what to do with I know what to do with certain teams I know I believe a and M isn't gonna be as good as they were last year I know I believe that Oregon is probably gonna be in the final four might win a national title I know I believe certain things about teams. I look at them. I come up with it immediately These teams right here. I look at and I think what what do you do with that team number one Oklahoma state we talked about them earlier. It's a wide open conference It's a conference where 16 teams will start and all 16 are thinking we have a chance to be pretty good this year It's a it's a conference where Texas Tech is way ahead of everybody with the roster But if they can figure out the quarterback situation they will be beatable for certain teams Oklahoma state Is the team that should be winning that conference every single year I think they're on the way back. I think the purse strings have been opened up I think this is a good coach. I think this is a good quarterback But do you go from the abomination they were last year to immediately competing do you go from being that band to good all of a sudden? I know Indiana's did it a couple of years ago, but I I don't know I I don't know what to do with Oklahoma state I can see Oklahoma state going nine and three and being right in the mix in the big 12 I can see Oklahoma state going five and seven. Do you know what to do with Oklahoma state Liam Blutman? Yeah, I know I'm buying stock. I know I'm buying stock in Eric Morris I know I'm buying stock in the offensive minds that they have I know I'm going to continue buying stock in Mess the maker his wider sewers and the wring pack that they take from you and TK of Hawkins It was just the absolute force a bowling ball a guy that is going to cut through defenses and help take Some off a mess makers plate like they're going to be a very dynamic offense defensively. I've got clue Lookie bring up the Texas Longhorn schedule because this is the second team. I don't know what to do with And I've included it in my eight teams who can win the national title the eight teams who can win the national title are Oregon Ohio State Indiana, Texas, Georgia, Miami, Notre Dame, Oklahoma. Those are my eight teams that come in the national title I've got them in there the more I think about it the more I think about Texas That schedule is so brutal and by the end archmaning was pretty good last year What if he sucks in the beginning again? What if he's a slow starter? What if he's a guy that doesn't come out of training camp ready to go? What if he's a guy that doesn't isn't great in September? Well, they're gonna find out real fast because I got Ohio State in week two again And if they were to lose though Ohio State in week two let's walk through it You've got a road trip to Tennessee a little bit later. You got Oklahoma in Dallas. You got Florida coming in That's fine. You got Ole Miss coming in. That's probably fine. You got mr. State coming in. That's gonna be a war You got Missouri you got at LSU you got at Texas A&M This is not easy at all if if if if They lose to Ohio State the margin of error is gone and there's a lot of error on that on that schedule I think they will be fine. I think they will be in the playoff. I think they can win the national title But I have no pauls with Oregon. I have no pauls of the Ohio State. I have no pauls with Georgia I have no pauls of any of those teams in that list Texas makes me pause a little bit Liam To Texas make you pause or am I just being a big bitch? No, I actually did tick talk about Texas making me pause the other week I think another thing the factor in is there's only so much football to go around and Attitudes are definitely something I'm honored. You've got Cam Coleman Ryan Wingo the two great-riding backs There's not enough football to go around and make everyone happy. That's something you got at the OS So yeah, we'll see yeah, and just a schedule and last year, you know at the end with Texas fans and maybe a little bit of Sarkin them kind of saying yeah if we hadn't scheduled Ohio State we would have been in playoff Yeah, we've been lost Ohio State you would have been in the playoff Maybe say it like that because this year you got him again You got him at home. You better beat him if you don't beat him. We're right back where we always are with Texas wondering what if my number three team I don't know what to do with I don't know what to do with Virginia Tech. I Know it's an infusion of roster talent. I know it's an infusion of excitement. It is waking up a dead program It's a league where you can make some progress pretty quickly, but it's not a league I think you can go from zero to winning it quickly. You're not gonna be better at Miami You're probably not gonna be better in Louisville or SMU. So I don't know what to do with Virginia Tech I think about it. I look at James Franklin. I go eight and four then I go four and eight and I and four and eight is probably a lot Wilder of a thought than eight and four is, but I don't know exactly I don't know exactly what to do when it comes to Virginia Tech. What do you think about Virginia Tech? Virginia Tech is a team. I have no idea do it. I have no idea what to do with growing their quest marks everywhere Like Wrenkenmeyer. It's great that he was at Penn State. It's great that he was already with Franklin He never proved anything to us. He never proved what he can do and now you're gonna go into a league and I just League with by the way Probably five or six really good quarterbacks So you gotta you're gonna have to overcome some decent quarterbacks on your way up the ladder here Again, I like I like Louisville. I like SMU. I think in C state might have a little something I'm missing a team Virginia Virginia's a team everybody just sleeps on every single year. They won 11 last year. They bring in perbula. I think Virginia could be good How about this one? I Don't know what to do with UCLA and maybe it's because I'm with you and maybe it's because I have to look at that stupid ass UCLA helmet That's one of the best helmets in the country I don't know what to do with them because you're asking me to believe That a JMU coach is gonna leave JMU and lightning is gonna strike again like I feel like the odds of a JMU coach Leaving and doing big things immediately again are are are a lot to ask Then you have you're gonna ask me to trust Nico away. I'm in Leava. I Guess he was okay last year. I guess he was pretty good. A lot of new players here the schedule is Is manageable the way to say the schedule or are just there are there's a lot of opportunity It's a schedule full of opportunity, I guess. It's not a schedule that that scares me to death I don't know what to do with UCLA. I got people say we got tough schedule that aren't UCLA fans are just people that are Your fans of Arsenal or work with us or whatever it be working called football I this schedule is like a 4.5 out of 10 if this was a better program that played the schedule. People would be say, man, what a great draw for the for for this team. Uh, yeah, they open that cow cows wearing the Joe Roth throwbacks. No big deal. They look pretty good. They're incredible. Um, yeah. I think UCLA has a very deep wide receiver room. And I think the defense to have how Johnson coming over from Utah. Sammy O. Massiga, who I've talked to scouts say could be leading in NFL defense as a rookie this year. And you've got him in college football and Oklahoma. Sam away because they didn't want to pay him enough. What a mistake by Van Vell's and his staff. And then say your West brushing off the edge. They've got guys everywhere. And they've got hopefully it was the best high coach, higher of the the off season. Oh, do they hire somebody? I don't know if they hire Bob, they hardly give you're tripping. You're tripping. You were about to say you're tripping play, aren't you? Yeah, I was. But I'm also paid for your paid for by Lane. I'm paid for by belt. The last team that I want to talk about that I don't know what to do with. And this one I truly tell I four and eight eight and four ten and whatever. I don't, everything's on table. Maybe not ten and two. What the fuck do we do with Wisconsin? What do we do with Wisconsin? What in the world? I like holding Joseph. I like winners coming to town. That's what I like. I like when winners come to town. And I like they seem like they're in the Oklahoma state boat where it took them a while, but they finally figured it out. They need to really open up the money up there. I think they've opened up the money. I like Wisconsin. I think they got a couple they got a nice running back situation. They got the quarterback situation looks a little improved, but at the same time, maybe fickle just ain't got it. Maybe he just ain't got it. Maybe he just was never the one, never the answer. When he got hired, I thought boy, oh boy, Wisconsin is serious about this. Wisconsin's about to go to play off. Wisconsin's about to be a big ten contender every year. And then went the exact opposite direction and went the exact, this is like Brian Kelly to LSU when I thought man, oh man, LSU's about to be a title contender every year went the exact opposite direction of what I thought because I'm stupid. And I can fickle save it. Can you turn it around? I don't think I believe he can. At the same time, I look at what he's got. I'm thinking turn around. I don't know what the fuck to do, Liam. I don't know what to do. When fickle got hired, I wasn't like the, oh my goodness guy. I was all right. Let's see what happens when he hired Phil Longo and the dairy raid came into play. I was repulsed and disgusted about what was going to happen. That product had not been Wisconsin football. Finally, he is looking to get back to the me and potatoes of it all and build through an offense line and ground game. You've got the quarterback that could run. You've got two great transfer rank backs that could run. Yeah. Body armor flash. I be this episode brought to you by body armor flash. I be flash. It's packed with electrolytes delivering faster, longer lasting hydration without any artificial dyes, flavors or sweeteners, whether you're training, traveling or just feeling the heat, work hard and hydrate hard with body armor flash IV. Grab it at 7/11. It's my favorite drink before I go play golf. Take two, drink two and just one. Really, I get the electrolytes flowing. I go out and I play golf. Don't have to worry about getting worn down or my headache and all that. Brandon, do you know what the significance of Jersey number 7 and 18 at LSU are? Yes, I do. At LSU, number seven is reserved for your leadership and your captain. Number 13 is for your playmakers and the guys who are going to be making the bit. Wait. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wait. I'll call T-Bot. This is crazy. This is crazy. So 18, I believe is set. Okay. Seven is given to the white guy and 18 is given to somebody else. Okay, wow. You host one, you get, you become the host for a morning show. You're just too big to pick up now. Just more, more important than me. Call the phone number. No. Why am I brand-doin walker? What is brand-doin walker? What does that mean? What does that mean, me? That might have legs. I'm, I'm that type. I'll figure it out. Yeah. Yeah. Let's say Brandon can't do it on his own. Bring back unnecessary reference. No, I am doing it on my own. It's going to be awesome during the season. I fucking love doing it and suck my fucking dick. Goddamn internet. Nobody. Fat fuck. Anyway, here we go. Did I read, yeah, I read that in, read that in. We got Andy Staples coming up in just a second. He'll be, he'll be here. We talked, talked a lot about his top 25, a lot about everything. We, we talked for 45 minutes. So, so yeah, I got two takes. I want to get off before we go any further. Number one, and I, I elaborated on this with Staples in a minute. We have made a lot of, we've talked a lot about the fact that the top of the sport has flattened out a little bit with this portal and it's NIO. Georgia and Alabama can't just outbid everybody anymore and build a 3D with five stars where the next guy coming off the bench is the scariest dude you've ever seen. Followed by the next guy who's the scariest dude you've ever seen. You can't build a roster that just lords over the sport anymore. You got to have a well put together roster with some experience and you got to have a good coaching staff. And that's what we've done at the top. The, the monster, the 800 pound gorilla with a chainsaw for a dick no longer exists in this sport because it's been flattened out. I want to go to the other side and I believe I think it's flattened out on the backside too. I think it is flattened out at the bottom because I don't think we have pure laughing stocks in college football anymore. Let me lay this out for you. You assume we would have every year at least a conference would have at least one maybe two and in the SEC it was often Vanderbilt or whoever. One maybe two teams that you thought might go 0 and 12. You thought they were that bad that awful. They were that terrible two years ago. Mississippi State went two in 10. We were laughing stock of the SEC. We're no longer that. We've kind of crawled out and we're trying we're threatening to just get a little bit better with five and seven last year. But I'm talking about true laughing stocks. I'm talking about the teams that were like you look at them and you know you show up on Saturday. You're beating them 57 nothing like there's there's no problem to it. There's no nothing. You just know they're true true true laughing stock. I look in or throughout this country. How many we got in the like in the big 12. 16 teams. How many are going to be truly awful? I don't think we have one. I don't think we have one in the big 12 in the big 10. Probably Purdue. They're trying to dig out from under this thing. Purdue is the closest one in the ACC. Maybe Boston College in the SEC. I don't think there is one this year. If it is it's Arkansas because they're digging out from hiring a bad coach. But I don't see the laughing stocks throughout this country. Now what I think the laughing stocks are. It's North Carolina. It's Bella check. It's the girlfriend situation. I believe things you do on social media make you the laughing stock. Quote you have make you the laughing stock. But I don't think anybody is so far behind. They can't catch up pretty quickly. That's why I think so right now. No Maryland's not a laughing stock. I think Locksley. When he said last year's four and eight wasn't the same as the first of the other years four and eight. They blew three four quarter leads. I know what he was saying. They're not a laughing stock. It's not a Mississippi state. You guys can say it to try to hurt my feelings. But really stop. Take your net troll hat off and think about it. It's not. They went five and seven last year. They lost in double over time to Tennessee. Larson over time to Texas. Like I'm talking about true. Oh and 12 laughing stocks. I'm talking about the teams that don't even need to show up. They're gone. Producing the only one I can think of. I don't think you're that bad. Oregon state. Yeah. Well, Oregon state. There's a victim of something else. And that's really not anything we need to talk about that. They're just it's a shame. They got left behind the way they did. Bama's a laughing stock. No, are you all just going to say stupid shit? I want to do a live show so I can interact with the chat. I can't interact with the chat. If you are going to be so fucking stupid. I need smarter fans. That's why I want to do this show build smarter fans. This sport is where passion overwhelms our intelligence. But not here. You can be smart here. Kansas? No. No. What formerly? What used to be sure? Sure. Sure. Hates doing the yak loves talking about shitty college football team. I love doing the act. It's my favorite thing I do. You guys make up this fan fiction in your mind. Oh, he's doing the act suck my dick. All right. Here we go. One more one more topic. Jayden Daniels was LSU's quarterback won the Heisman trophy. And now I feel like the Jayden Daniels camp has been playing a damaged control all day. I feel like they've been trying to fight right out from under this thing. They brought it on themselves though. The Jayden Daniels camp came out. It says I was a seasoned assist or they came out and they were basically like LSU can't use his name image and likeness anymore because they don't retire Jersey. The number five. They haven't used the Joe Burrow Jersey. Joe Burrow Jersey number ever since 2019. Joe Burrow went 15 you know, won a national title. Jane Daniels went nine and three, won a Heisman Trophy and didn't play in the bowl game. They're just not the same. They really aren't. And I just think this is a bad looking training camp. It's a bad look 'cause when Jane Daniel was coming out of Arizona State, he didn't have the best reputation. You see the video of Arizona State's player celebrating when he left? Didn't have the best reputation. When he got to LSU, started to have a good year. LSU lost a few games. If you remember correctly, Brian Kelly and LSU basically decided in the middle of that season, you know what, we're not gonna win a national title. We're gonna win this fucking Heisman Trophy. They played in New Mexico State late. They kept men four quarters. They threw six touchdowns, something like that. They did everything in their power to win that. They did everything in their power to help him win that. LSU invested everything into him. And they get repaid by a cease and desist. You can't use my name, image and likeness. You can't keep the Heisman Trophy that you guys helped me win, it's bullshit. It's immature, it's bullshit. I understand being a great player and wanting to be honored. But you don't do it like this. You don't demand it. You don't point at another guy who was way more successful than you would say, I should be like him. That's crazy. You're also a third year quarterback who was disappointing last year. Be in the NFL, worry about LSU later. All right, what do you think about that, Blum? Just laying in bed last night and reading that tweet shocked me. I could not even fathom. Like you said, it's a third year in the NFL. We're coming off a down year after an electric first year bringing so much glory back to the Washington commanders. Glory and hope and everything had everything going. Bandwagon falls off a little bit, drives off the freeway, whatever. Why are we not absolutely honed in on getting things back on track there? Who cares about it? What does this even matter? Like Leonard Fornet said, you are never no athlete. Is ever going to be bigger than the LSU brand or the brand of the college that they play that absolutely tripping? I don't get it, Brandon. I don't get it. And I also see the reports that, you know, maybe it's, you know, on the quarterback show, Jaden Daniels mom is controlling and protective and maybe she or family members behind that. If that's the case, you're in your third year in the NFL. You're a franchise quarterback. You're a former Heisman trophy winner. You're a professional athlete. Grow the fuck up. Grow the fuck up. It's time to go to Sprout Wings. Go out on your own. Don't bite the hand that fed you. Don't look at LSU and say, you owe me anything. You guys did that together. You won the Heisman together. You did everything together. You did great for them. They did great by you. When Arizona, when you left Arizona State, the market wasn't the highest in the world. They took you in. You won a Heisman. It was a great relationship. And now to say, you can't have my Heisman, you can't use my name, you know, I can grow the fuck up. Speaking of growing up. How about hard Dicks? That's what I like to. It's just a terrible segue. It's a T-bob-wob type segue. Yeah, this episode is sponsored by Bluetooth. Guys, what do women want in need? I don't know, but when the vibe is right, let me start that over. I don't know, but when the vibe is right, oh no, it's just bad copy. Okay, Steven Jay. Oh, I'll fix it. I'll fix it on the spot. Hold on. You move the article. And that's a past participle. 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You also receive an additional 10% off and free overnight shipping when you're first order. Visit Bluetooth.com for more details and important safety information. We thank Bluetooth you for sponsoring this podcast. We can try voicemails. You guys have mostly sucked at them. 312-685-1889-312-685-1889. Let me look at the chat for a little bit. Let's see. Yeah, I'm not gonna read that word. I'm not gonna read that word. Okay, all right. Yep. All right. Well, you guys are awful too. Yes, hopefully during the season, you guys get better. It's pretty seasoned for everybody. So anyway, voicemails 312-685-1889. Brandon is Brent Pry or Zach Ornette gonna have a better year at DC after going back to the same school they were head coach out. Great question. I honestly believe, you know what? I don't know about Brent Pry, but I know that Franklin brought in some talent and I know he's a good coach. I think it shows remarkable maturity from Brent Pry to realize, you know, he wasn't a head guy. Goes back to the old DC job. I think that's awesome. Zach Ornette the same way when I don't own his own. Now he's back. I think both have a chance to be really good. I'm super excited about our guys, Zach Ornette. Leach, the reason Leach didn't win big at Mississippi State was he never really got the offense going to Leach standards. The defense was really good when he was here. And now it's back. And I think that's what we were lacking last year. Anyway, I don't want to talk about Mississippi State. I won't talk about the entire country. I don't want to talk about Mississippi State. I don't want to talk about the entire country. Excited at all about Colin Klein at Kansas State. Let me ask you that, Liam. Are you excited about Colin Klein at Kansas State? I am very excited about Colin Klein at Kansas State. I will never not be excited about program legend that goes back home the coaches team. Fair enough. I like that. All right. 312-685-1889. Lukey, voicemail number one. I'll keep it short and sweet. And Rich Rod, six West Virginia. They have the second longest. Power five will power four now. Unranked Street. And he fixed the program. Short answer. Yeah. He'll never fix it to the level he had it going in 2007, 2008. I don't think Pat White's coming through that door. And I don't think they're ever outspin the Texas text of the world. But can they outspin the Houston's of the world? And they outspin 10 or 12 teams in that conference? Yeah, I think they can. So I would go, yes, it's just not a quick fix. It's just not something they can do. Because when Rich Rod comes in, it's never a quick fix. He has such a stylized. He has such a unique way of playing offensive football and playing football as a whole. It takes him a couple of years. So this is a huge year to watch. I was joking about Michael Hawkins earlier about being terrible at quarterback. Well, the way Rich Rod, at least at West Virginia, he'll have a coach that knows how to use him. And he won't be just trying to do whatever Oklahoma was trying to do with him over there at Oklahoma. So three, one, two, six, eight, five, 1889, what do we got? Hey, Brandon. It's Hunter from Parrish. Just calling to ask, could you see Gunner Stockton taking a year to jump like Stesson Bennett did in 2022 and where he led the George Bulldogs through an undefeated national championship season? Thank you. Yeah, I can see Gunner Stockton making a jump. I don't know if he'll have the numbers that Stesson Bennett had because Stesson Bennett had the benefit of having the very best roster in college football. Right now, Georgia has one of the best rosters in college football and it's a big difference. That roster in 2022 was too good to fail. And Stesson Bennett had, well, who'd you have? McCunkey and Bowers and I don't know if Pickens was on that team or if he left after the first one. But you had just a loaded, loaded roster, loaded athletes. And I don't see the explosiveness out of Georgia offensively around him. Running game is solid, but it's not just scaring you to death. Offensive line looks nasty. And then I think they'll just be able to bludgeon team. So I don't think he's going to have the big numbers. But can Georgia go 12 and 0 when in the national title 100%? They are probably probably five and 16, five or 16 teams that have the potential to do just that. Good voicemail so far. 312, 685, 18, 89, who we got next. Hey, Brandon, this is Tom from Charlottes. What's in this? Who's the Penn State of this season? So as that, I assume that's a team that is in the top 10 to start has a lot of hope and falls apart. I mean, I have my answer. This fan base is just absolutely menstruating about every time I talk about them. There is a team in the top 10 with fall apart potential. It's a team replacing an offensive line. It's a team with a quarterback who's all right. It's a team who had a easy schedule last year and has a tougher one this year. And the team I'm talking about is Texas A&M. But I think there are a lot of teams. [BLANK_AUDIO] just be honest let's be fair. They also, Texas A&M has potential also to still be pretty good. The early part of their schedule is pretty easy. But if I'm looking throughout the top 15, could I see a fall apart from Ole Miss with the downgrading coaching? It might be wishful thinking, but yeah, I could see a world where it happens. Could Alabama fall apart? Yeah, I can see a world where it happens. We don't know the quarterback's gonna be. Indiana, I think they're fall apart, improve, organs fall apart, improve. Oh, Ohio State's interesting. They haven't fallen apart in a long time, a long time. But the quarterback looked really average against some elite defenses at the end of the year. And the defense is losing a lot. And the schedule is nasty as fuck. It's really nasty. I don't think Ryan Day has fall apart potential in him, but you can see where the ingredients are kind of there for a fall apart pie. And I love pie. Blummer, what do you think? Team in the top 10, the falls apart, the way Penn State did last year. I feel like to me, A&M, I of course agree with, because I don't trust the quarterback. I would more steer towards Oklahoma just because I could see the offense sputtering out so often. And the defense may be getting-- Yeah, again, back to ego's and attitudes. It's like, man, we're doing our part in the offense. Stop right there. Go ahead. Palm's past 24, switching from Indiana hate to Ohio State hate. This is where you bitches have to get better as fans. You have to get better. This is why the cost for ball media landscape is led by guys like Pete and all those guys that won't say anything bad about anybody, because you all won't milk toast opinions, and you all wear your ass on your shoulders when there is any type of any criticism. I didn't even criticize Ohio State now. I just said, with the schedule and the way the court back played against elite teams, there might be a whiff of a possibility. And you just said, you went from Indiana hate to Ohio State hate. Somebody sitting on a mic and saying something quasi-critical or quasi-analytical about your team isn't hate. You punk ass bitches. Get the fuck over that. It's not hate. I don't hate Ohio State. I've been called Buckeye Brandon. I don't love him either. I just look at Ohio State and I judge it and I see this is what I think. So when you guys, when you Tennessee fans, you'll go Oklahoma fans. Are you any fans of any team out there? Hear me say, your team's gonna go seven, five this year. And I could be right. I could be wrong, but you're like, he hates us. Well, no fucking shit. I hate you. You pussy. Get over it. Understand that these are just conjectures and opinions. And you can have them back in me. Fuck. That's why y'all are stuck with a fucking 2PM show on ESPN this year that won't say a goddamn thing. Watch us dapp up the coach. Yay, we're dappin'. Yay. Did you see him dapp? He hates my team. No, I hate you, you fucking pussy. Can't fucking wait till they dapp up this year. What'd you say, Bloodman? Well, I was gonna fish up with Oklahoma schedules. Also tough. I want a circle back here. Two things real quick. One, how many, how many wins for a house late this year? Probably 11. Aw man, you hate them. Two, on Monday, we gotta do, we gotta dapp. Oh, I'm dappin' so many people this year, dude. Yeah, we gotta dapp every one of them. Dapp, sorry. Now we're fucking talkin' football. See, this is, I launched this in early August. To be honest, there's not a whole lot to talk about right now. And I hope this channel takes it, walk or tone it down. This is garbage. Paints right over there, buddy. Go over there and let him pop you on the butt, change your diaper and say it's okay. You got it, look pretty little nuts. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna tone it down. I'm gonna tone it up. I'm not gonna sit here and say everybody is fuckin' pretty. Fuck that. I didn't start this show so I could do that. Fuck you. If you don't, if it's too much, fucking leave. Jesus Christ. I'm just, I'm reading this chat and these people are like, he just, this is too much. This is too much. Where's real Compton to dapp me up? And let me feel better. Voice mail number four. Hey Brandon, I'm a huge fan. I'm from the West Coast, huge USD fan. And I just gotta know what do we need to do to get back into the picture. It's been a long time. Thank you, love you. Keep on. - Thank you very much. First of all, I would recommend a coffee. Some sort of energy drink. I think you've got low energy right now. You are on the West Coast so you can probably go to the beach and do all those things. But let's bring up the energy a little bit. Maybe I'm just, maybe I'm going too much. Maybe I need to tone it down. But let's really, let's really fire it up out there, big guy. Let's get going. You get to go outside, look at titties and the sunshine. Things are good. Did he ask about USC? They need to, they need a quarterback to live up to his hype and expectation. And they need a coach to realize you're not gonna win with a 2014 Oklahoma roster anymore. You're not gonna do it. You need balance, you need defense, you need all these things. They've gotten better incrementally. But you don't hire Lincoln Ryder to get better incrementally. You hire Lincoln Ryder to fucking compete and fucking win. And he hasn't done it yet. You got to get tougher. What did Venables have to do when picking up after Lincoln Ryder at Oklahoma? He had to make them tough. He had to go through three years of getting the defense back up to where it should be for that team. He had to get the offensive line and everything back up to where it should be for that team. And now he's kind of got it going. Well, Lincoln Ryder doesn't have a tough team. And you're not gonna compete in the big 10. If the PAX 12 still existed, maybe you got a chance. But not in the fucking big 10, dude. Get tougher. Three, one, two, six, eight, five, 18, eight, nine. What do you guys got? Well, how many more you got, Lukey? Two more. Two more, give it to me. Give me a voicemail number one. - Friday Walker, Zach from Orlando. Quick question for you as a fellow birder. Who has the best bird mascot logo in college football? Appreciate your insight. - Oh boy. Best bird mascot in college football. I might need to take a five or on that. Best bird, UTSA. Is it UTSA? Is it the road runners? What do you think, Blutman? Is it best bird mascot in college football? Meet me. - It's UTSA, that's what you think? - I mean, ain't nobody, it's unique. You got owls everywhere. You got owls at Temple FA, you at Rice. There's so many owls. No, you don't see the road runner. - Somebody says Louisville. No, Cardinals not gonna do it, buddy. She's Cardinals everywhere. - You can't be the best in the country and be the Cardinals. Coastal care, you know. - That's not care a lot. That's not care a lot of logos doing a lot. That chicken, that thing's fighting. I think I'm at UTSA, Oregon Ducks. Oregon, oh, it might be the Oregon Ducks 'cause that's unique. They do a lot with it. - Mmm, what do you got? What do you got? - It's a caveat. It's flight list, but the Youngstown State Penguin. He just said bird, he didn't say flight at bird. And I'm a penguin guy, so I'm going Youngstown State. - Yeah, yeah, what about, shoot. Damn, what about the Shaboygan state ostriches? I made that up. J-hawks, no. My name, I, no. I can't give my, J-hawks. - I can't give Miami credit, they're, they're hurricanes. I'm not giving them credit for the bird. It needs to be named for this thing and be the thing. You can't just be, can't be an ibis because it's a, whatever. - All right, that's what, that's what, and then what Sebastian is? - I only saw his ibis. - Oh, it's an ibis. Have you ever, did you ever read the scarlet ibis? Was it the scarlet ibis? No, the, what was that story? I read the ninth grade, we read the scarlet letter, and then there was, fuck. - I don't know. I just always said Sebastian the ibis. - Was it scarlet ibis? - What was the name of that short story? I read when I was in ninth grade in Miss Thompson's class. She had bad breath. - What? - The giving tree. - What about the giving, no, it wasn't the giving tree. Was it a scarlet ibis? Anybody? I can't North Florida Osprey's, that's a good one. Osprey's. - Yeah, you and that was nice. - But also that they have a boy. - I don't know if they have a football week round. - There it is, scarlet ibis. Told you, see that kid right there on his back? - Dead, that kid died. - What? - That kid died. - How? - The fucking, the fucking scarlet ibis came around and it was a sign because scarlet ibis, you only see it every now and then. That fucking kid right there, that bowl-headed fucker looks like me when I was six, that kid died. - Why'd you put this up here? Now we saw the scarlet ibis. - I don't know. - You know what happens when we're the red burn grows? Little and old and both die. - What? - I gotta do more. reading. Three one two six eight five 1889 last voicemail it better be good. Hey Brandon first time father long time. Just two year group of six team is to go all to make some noise this season. That we're calling them now group of six because we added the pack 12. I ain't calling them that. I don't want to call them that either. Can we just can we just stop? Can we just stop coming up with new names? You like Memphis, right? I like UNLV. I love mullen. I like the winner of that Memphis UNLV week zero Saturday night clash. The issue with Memphis is they all they got five tough games all in the road. That's also just that's such a sneaky great week zero. That's probably the best week zero game. That's better than TCU UNC, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. I like UNLV. He likes Memphis. I'll have to think about I'm really thinking South Florida. No. Although maybe. I see Diego states got a nice core back at run game. Boise states. I'll be there. I'm just excited to watch and he has to fly FPS football. It's crazy, dude. They're the favorite to win the conference in their transition year. The first I'm excited to watch Nathan Hayes. I got like four very capable Ryan backs. You know, the ground game's going to be sustainable. All right. This was this was this this this is a good show. I appreciate it. Good voicemails tonight. Chat pretty good. Just get better. Just get better. Don't do the he hates my team. I'm so I'm such a sad little bitch. I've never touched a titty before. So don't do that. Don't do that before. Don't do that at all. Let's just move forward together. We're going to get better and by the start of the season will be great. We'll be ready. But now you don't just have to watch me. You get to see an actual professional an actual college football professional who speaks an actual professional tones and who it has actual respect. All right. So it's interview time which means it's introduction time. And this is the part of the interview I suck at the most. But I mean if you're if you know who Brandon Walker is on the brand new wallcoast football show, you know who you know who Andy Staples is like this isn't a new guy to you. This is somebody who's been around the block and been doing the thing for a lot longer than me and a lot better than me. And he's the co-host of the Andy and Ari podcast on on three. He's doing some writing for on three. But it's it's Andy Staples guys. I mean, I you know who Andy Staples is. Andy Staples Hello. I am so happy that you invited me before you invited my co-host Ari Wasserman my white ass because when you said that, that's all I call him now. It's in my phone is Ari Ari Wasserman my my white ass. I forgot how delighted you were when that happened. And I don't even remember why I said it. I don't remember was I ranked behind him in something our founder Shannon Terry. Oh yeah, the list of people who college football people who had had the most impressions on Twitter. That's right. And so Ari was on the list and he was either ahead of you or you weren't on it. And he I guess our boss had left the bar still people out entirely. Yeah. Because I mean Liam should have been on it too. Sure. And the funniest part is I wasn't on it either. So I was pissed when I saw it. Yeah. And then you you went off on mostly sports and I was like, Oh, we're going to get a lot of mileage out of this. All right. Wasserman my white ass. Yeah, I do wonder sometimes and this isn't you specific, but there are certain people in our business that want to say some of the things I do say. And sometimes I get a text being like, "Hell, man, thank you for saying it." But I doubt you were sitting out there waiting for somebody to say, Ari Wasserman my white ass, but it's a gift that keeps on giving. It made my year because now our producer has it as a drop ready to go. Like it is anytime I need to put him in his place. All right. It's this white. It's why it's such BS. Your producer has it ready as a drop. My producer doesn't know what a drop is. Has no idea. I have so many clips. It could be worthy of dropping. He just he's just sitting over there doing nothing. Seriously, you banging the cowbell on your head. Yeah. After revealing Steve Spurrier as the top college football villain should be a drop. Yeah. That was and I unfortunately did a little too hard, but I've done that. When I did more cowbell, I used to do that as a running bit. And nobody here, I've never done it a bar show, but I used to every single more cowbell. I would give myself a reason to hit myself on the head. I suffered through multiple concussions in 2019 before I got this job. Let's talk college football because we're here. Finally, you know, me and you got through the all the evergreen content of June and July and and all that stuff. And we've listed all the helmets and all the Mexican restaurants and all the towns. We've done all the all the stuff that everybody does every summer. Right. But now we're we're just about here. And I want to start with this. Joe Klapp was on PMT a couple of weeks ago. I also I started my show a couple weeks ago talking about this, but he has he said he had seven title teams this year. Seventeen. He thinks he went to national title. I would add an eighth. I did that on my first show. I added Oklahoma. The seven teams he said, and I'm using his quote because it's a very easy thing to use. Most people have around this group, but it's Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon, Texas, Georgia, Miami, Notre Dame. I added Oklahoma, because I like material with the defense they built over there. Would you add anybody else or does that list feel about right to you? So Pete Nacos who is is are also a reporter on three knows the payroll market better than anyone because he he does the transfer portal stuff. He's tight with all the agencies. He's tight with all the GMS. We did a list together. He and I got together the other day and we were just we were just naming teams trying to figure this out. Because Steve Sircudian says something really interesting. I want to say during spring practice. He's like there's a certain number payroll wise that you got to hit to be able to compete for the national title. It's not the most. It's not $50 million, but you have to be in this neighborhood. You have to be above this line. Once you once you hit that minimum threshold, then it becomes about coaching and evaluation and everything else. So like Indiana probably spent about 20 to 22 million dollars last year, whereas the teams that paid the most probably spent like 35 million. So they they were in the neighborhood. They hit the number. And after that, it was coaching and evaluation. We came up with 20 team for 20. Really? Because we're living in a world where Indiana just won the national championship. You're right. But does that number move up? Like like I'm going to let you say what you're going to say. But does that mean like the number might have been the average was 24 million last year. But maybe this year the big spenders went up and it tightened the group a little bit or is it just we're still early in this. I guess we we we said basically like 28 million and up felt like the right number Jesus. And so there's 20 teams that hit that mark. Yeah, I'm going to see if I can name all 20. We did it off the top of our heads and realize we counted to 20, but I'm too dumb to write it down. So Texas Notre Dame Miami, Oregon, Georgia, Ohio State, Indiana, Texas Tech, LSU, Oklahoma, Michigan. That's 11 USC's 12 Ole Miss Alabama. Texas A&M. Sure. Washington. That may surprise you. Yeah. We at 16 right now. Yeah. Don't know the hope. Penn State. I don't know if they can. Penn State. Yep. That's that's one. Because I was kind of right on the line. There were two more and I can't remember who they are now. Three, but if you had 20. Oh, I'm a 17. Yeah. Did I say A&M already? You said A&M. I don't know if you said Michigan. I did say Michigan. I definitely said Michigan. We may have we may have had Florida and Auburn in there. Sure. Because they're definitely in that neighborhood. Yeah. Hey, wise. So I think we were just trying to cover with the number who's above the line. So Florida, Auburn, and then there would have been one more big 10 team in there that was above that number. Okay. But what I'm saying is, realistically, there's probably 10 to 15 that can win the national title that are paying enough and have good enough coaching, scheme, evaluation to do it. Which really is like a two-edged sword, right, double-edged sword, because if you're paying that much and you're getting that group, you better perform in that group this year, right? You better perform in that group every single year, or now you're in trouble. Like, teams are a key agent. They spend all the money in the world, but these teams, if there's 20 teams spending that much money, there ain't room for 20 teams to be elite in college football. That's not really how it works. So there's going to be some teams that get a lot of disappointment this year. And I'd still drilling down on the ones that can actually win it. I guess I am, but because I didn't put, oh, missing my list of teams that actually win it. I didn't put Alabama in my teams. All this might have the best quarterback in the country. Yeah, but I just cannot, I cannot accept this fact. I cannot accept the idea that you can lose a coach of that quality and get better. They lost the coach of that quality and beat Georgia when they had and they didn't beat Georgia. That's true, but those were two coin flip games. One time the coin flip came up them. One time the coin flip came up. They played them about the same both times. They just finished. They did. But people they don't cost them that game, people holding one in that game. So fair enough, but really, I mean, is it not the offensive coordinator to say that one in the game? Because their defense still gave up 35 points. Like, so anyway, I'm just, we're not picking at this. right? We're nitpicking because I have a very good quarterback. I just don't know how you lose a lean kiffin and a Charlie-wise junior and you just pick up like nothing, nothing happened. So that's why I'm kind of iffy on them. Also, I hate them. So I'm always going to be iffy on them. Right. Let me, let me be a hater, Andy. Alright, I don't, I'm not like everybody else. I'm going to hate. And that's just what I'm about. And that's what I'm going to do. Um, who are you scared? Cause this is dovetails right into my next question. We can, we can, we can, we can separate the seven at the top of those spenders. Who are you scared might not live up to expectations? Who might not, who might not deliver on the money they spent? Hi, Roughnecks will be right back after this word from our sponsor. Football is back and with draft king sportsbook September comes with a boost. All September long opt in and get a 50% profit boost every game day with the draft king's game day boost pass. 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Yeah they they should make the playoff at least offensively yeah right and they should go deep in the playoff but they had a really good roster last year and they didn't make the playoff they still I mean they got Ohio State week two there's their SEC schedule is hard and they could be nine and three and miss it now I still think I didn't even know how much longer we're going to have a 12 team playoff but I do think you keep playing a 12 team playoff a nine and three team that played a hard schedule is going to make it at some point I agree but they are one of the ones that that schedule is going to challenge them in so many different spots I mean look you're your team should have beaten them last year. Yeah I'm aware Andy I don't know if you saw but I had a very good view of that. I did I did see that so they should have lost the Kentucky last year like yeah they but I do think they've improved a lot I think they did lose to what they did lose to Florida by the way they did lose yeah I mean Florida and Florida beat them soundly on the line of scrimmage which was weird because Florida didn't do that to anybody else but they they really flipped the running back room which they needed to do so they got relief brown and Hollywood smothers. Cam Coleman gives them a true wide receiver one that they didn't have and I mean we all saw that catch up a weekend and it was a tip ball haters. That was my favorite is the immediate responses who threw that. My only thing with that play is if if college football legend were written based on based on the clips we see out of practice Cam Coleman probably would already have two Heisman trophies because he said a lot he's could have picked a quarterback in the last three years he probably have one too but he has a lot of practice clips where you're like oh my god and then the game you know there's some drops there's some obviously terrible quarterback play and terrible offensive coaching so so it's now it's best version it's probably going to be the best version of him best version of Texas although can I just push back on one thing it's not really a pushback I think that Wingo kid for Texas is really damn good too and I he might not be a number one of the to the level of Cam Coleman but he's better than probably 115 number ones in this country. Well, that's that's the thing. I mean Ohio State's been doing that for years where their number one is awesome and their number two is also a first rounder. Look at what the first play of the Vanderbilt game last year when Wingo takes the little drag route and just goes all day the other one I watch for you know with that dynamic is Miami because Dairy and Mens is not the only guy they got from Duke they got Cooper Barcai who was the leading I don't know if he led the ACC in receiving yards he had 1100 receiving yards last year he definitely led the Ivy League receiving yards at Harvard a year before but Cooper Barcai was working against the best corner in every team last year he will never see the best corner on an opposing team this year because Malachi Tony exists. Yeah now it's it's crazy how you know in the era of the super team not really existing you're still because it's flattened a little bit like the Georgia roster of 2021 2022 we'll probably never see that again right but you can still you can still have like super units and like that that Texas offense looks so loaded at every single position every single part but but does that come at the cost of somewhere else that a weakness that we don't know yet well we'll have to say let me ask you about the Bryce Underwood quotes I don't know if you've talked about this or if you've yeah on my show Wednesday we we hit it hard because it was it was weird we we were in Columbus last Thursday and talked to Ryan Day and Julian Sain we we ran the day interview and then say the saying interview for Tuesday's show so the saying interview comes out where Julian saying is like because I asked him do you ever say the M word because they're not allowed to say Michigan if they if you play for Ohio State they're supposed to say the team up north and he said no he said no you when you come here that game becomes your livelihood and we had put that quote out and then John Fanta drops the Bryce Underwood clip and it's like holy holy shit these guys are complete polar opposites in how they think about this thing. Yeah, are you like me or you tired of Fanta's shit he's already got college basketballs gonna come take college football from us Fanta let us have something over here. Fanta's smarter than us Brandon. I know and he's better than us but whatever he's he's smarter than us he he went to a big e-school so we got into college basketball because that's the the entry plus not a lot of people doing college basketball so gets great at that we we're going to just all be living in his world like going to NBC was the ultimate stroke of genius because he's he's doing big 10 football right now he's going to be doing dream team basketball during the Olympics he's already doing NBA. I he's I would put him on Sunday night NFL because I love him. And he's much more likable than me and he's he's better. Yeah, you and I have the same problem is we're both terrifically unlikable like Josh Pate. You just love you want to hug him. Yeah, we are very unlikable people. Well, also because he scared to say anything bad about anybody. Um, secondly, um, so um, the Bryce Underwood quote I accidentally stumbled into a quote that I said the other day I was on the dark nook will show out of Tulsa or not Tulsa Oklahoma city. Um, so I was on there and we were talking about Oklahoma. He was asking me I've had a long standing beef with Oklahoma fans like I have beef with everybody else. And I just simply said he asked me to sum it up. I said, listen, when it comes to college football fandom college football is where passion overwhelms intelligence. And I said that not knowing that I was saying something profound and brilliant, which I want to do. I do that all the time. But I want to bring that quote right now to the Bryce Underwood because what price under what said was, you know what? I'm just a quarterback and that's just another game. It's just another it was a loss for us. It's just one or 12. And that is correct. That is right. That is absolutely the way an athlete probably should view. He should view every game as another opportunity to go out there and win a football game. And he should. But in the world's college football, we won't accept it. We won't accept that this game gets Ohio State against arrival isn't the most important thing in your life that dominates your life. It's crazy that we have this sport that is so passionate. Sometimes when a guy says something as smart and as common sense as he said, we still poop who it because we just have to because of college football. What do you think about all that? What do you think about people him saying something so reasoned and so common sense? And we're like, no, no. Well, so I defended Kyle Wittingham a couple of weeks ago when he said, I don't hate Ryan Day. Hates a strong word. Hates a strong word. Because I'm sure your mom was the same way. My mom always told me, don't say you hate somebody unless you really, really mean it. Yeah, we have two very different upbringing because I got a lot of hate stories. But go ahead. I actually believe Ryan Day hates Michigan. I believe Ryan Day has hated Michigan since Jim Harball made the third base comment. So at least at least fair enough. But I'm fine with it. Witting him in the same breath did say how special the game was. So that's funny. Yeah. Bryce Underwood said the game wasn't special. I didn't think about it till until Ari and I were discussing it on the show. And like Ari covered Ohio State for 10 years. This offends him like the idea that somebody doesn't believe Michigan Ohio State is the most important thing in the entire world. I'm not as offended by it. But I didn't think about this till Ari brought it up. In this era of college football, if you're the Michigan quarterback, the highest paid player on the team, it's bad for business to say something like that. Say the thing that get the fans the red meat they want to eat up. Like you're costing yourself endorsement money at this point. Like get the fans what they want. Like 10 years ago. Yeah, say that. But as far as the game goes itself, it is bigger. It is more special. It's okay to acknowledge that because Nick Saban was the ultimate nameless faceless opponent. We treat everybody the same. Yeah. I found a quote from him before the 2021 Auburn game. So before the four overtime game, against Brian Harson. And he goes, you try to treat every game the same, but there's certain games where you can have a really good season. But if you lose that game, everything will come with butt after that. Yeah. And that's, and that's fair. That's very fair. When it comes to Ryan Day, one of the things I thought, and Mark Titus, my co-host on mostly sports said something, I thought was very smart. He said, you know, when they lost a miskin a couple of years ago, and the way Ohio State lost when they were at home and Michigan with a bad quarterback and bad game plan came in and beat him, it looked like Ryan Day's hatred had grown too much. And the game was too overwhelming to him. And they got in the second quarter of a close game and they just got tight and they were scared of their own shadow. And they just, and at some point, he tried to, he tried to beat them using Michigan style. Right. He thought it was important. How he beat them. Not only are we going to beat them, we're going to show them we're tougher than they are. And that's just stupid because you're, you might be tough, but you've got speed and you've got athleticism. You've got something they don't have. Use it. And anyway, he goes on to win some national title. I think that national title six weeks later shows him like maybe this football game, let me just pull back a little bit, pull back. Then then Bryce, Underwood says the same thing. I don't know. It's a winery. No, I asked Ryan Day about the game. Yeah. Six days ago. It's still very important in. You can tell he's, he's still seeding a little bit. Oh, yeah. Okay. And look, if Harboss said something like that about me, I'd feel the same way. Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. You dropped your top 25. Okay. Yeah. Your preseason top 25. And I'm sure if I know friends in Tennessee, if I know the internet, I know the internet is taking this in a very reasoned and very practical way. And they're simply saying, well, you know what? That's Andy Staples opinion. And I respect it. I do have some questions as I go through it. I didn't even write down Tennessee. You don't have to Tennessee in top 25 at all. I didn't. I think that's fine. I, I, if, listen, if you're going to tell me you're, you're a very good team, the first question you need to answer is who's your quarterback. And they can't really do it right now. So, so like, okay. So if you don't have that question, why don't you deal with that question before you demand to be in my top 25? Okay. I noticed you had Ohio State six in Indiana seven. I'm going to imagine, I'm going to believe that's probably lower than most people in this country have either of those teams. Why do you have those at six and seven? I had to concoct a scenario because I had done a playoff prediction bracket the week before. And I wanted to continue the scenario that I advanced in that bracket, which I didn't do it on purpose. But I ended up setting up an Ohio State Michigan rematch in the first round of the playoff with Michigan winning it after losing to Ohio State in Columbus. So the way they had to be set up a certain way. It had to be set up where Ohio State loses to Texas beats Michigan in the in the in the game. And then advances to the the big 10 title game and loses to Oregon because that's the only way I could set up that playoff game. So that's why that's why I had them where they were. Follow up question. What drugs were you owned that made you put Michigan in the playoff? The drugs that they were nine and three last year with a coach who was probably pretty worried about some other things that weren't football who was busy screaming in his defensive coordinator who was probably a little concerned that the head coach was worried about some things that weren't football. Sure. Who who had a true freshman quarterback that he didn't actually play into play. And then Mikey King got hurt and he ended up playing him. But they said, Hey, Sharon, you should probably have a dedicated quarterback coach. He's like, nah, why would our true freshman quarterback need that? So now they have an incredibly competent coach who kept everybody in the roster brought in more talent and a dedicated quarterback coach. Fair enough. I like that explanation. And plus not only did they play the true freshman quarterback, but it was very obvious they were playing that true freshman quarterback using a game plan that was clearly devised for somebody else. That that thing was not devised for Bryce underwood to thrive. It was just it just wasn't. But anyway, you know, I like that. Now you have Alabama at 16. That's down in the territory that I would have them. And people when I do it, I looked at as this generational Alabama hater, but I look at an Alabama team that yeah, the roster might look good on paper, but I was very concerned. Some of their losses last year when they just laid down at Florida state, when they lay down against Indiana, I know the quarterback was hurt, but they still 383. That just doesn't happen to Alabama. That doesn't happen to the way they play football. I don't like the signs out of that program. So I have them low. Why do you have them at 16? Same reason, same reasons you do. And they can very quickly move back up if they show that the changes because remember, they revamped their offensive line. They fired the offensive line coach. They bring in a dream claim to coach that position. They bring in a new tight ends coach. So the defensive line looks a lot different this year. It's a lot bigger and longer. So all that looks better for a couple of weeks. Like they play Kentucky week two in Lexington. That's going to be a really interesting game because Kentucky wouldn't have bought an offensive line. Yeah. A good right out of the right out of the shoot. And so if Alabama manhandles a team like that, I'm going to be like, okay, never mind. I was wrong. Let's put them in the top 10. But we also don't know who the quarterback's going to be. You know, it's either Austin macro healing Russell. Russell feels like the one who's more of a creator when things break down. If if they still can't run the ball, maybe he can give them a little more of a running game. But I don't know if they might be able to run the ball. I mean, they've got a couple fresh from running back. They're excited about. And again, we don't know if this offensive line that is completely revamped is going to look good or not. Last last team I want to ask about. I think you're aggressive on this team. I like I like them coming forward. I like what they did in the off season. You know, they obviously changed the coach. They changed the quarterback. You got Oklahoma State ranked at 23. I think everybody likes Oklahoma State and likes what they're doing. Put them at 23. There's 23rd best team in the country right now seems aggressive. Why what's what are you basing that on? I've been an Eric Morris guy since he was an incarnate word. Yeah. I just think he's really good at finding talent. He's really good at running an offense. He knows what he's doing. The fact that that these guys were really good at North Texas. And then you you port them and then add pieces out of the transfer portal that are capable of playing the big 12. I think it's going to work. And I think it's going to work immediately because I think what was going on last year is might going to set it himself. Like he came on our show at big 12 media days. And like Ari and I just jaws just dropped when he's like, yeah, I didn't believe it. And I thought NIL was was going to was a like a flash in the pan and was going to go away. And I'm like, excuse me. And so Oklahoma State's donors obviously knew that long ago. And they were basically bleak, you know, starving them out. They didn't give them any resources. There's a reason they were the worst team in school history last year, despite having the best coach in school history. They turned the faucet back on when are more Scott there. Okay. Yeah. And make sure that that he had what he needed. And look, the big 12 is ripe for this because you've got Wittingham leaving Utah. There's a little bit of a talent drain there. I still think Utah will be good. I think Morgan's gotta be fine there. But it's not that it's not a guarantee that they're going to be the second or third best team in the conference. I think BYU is still going to be really good. But I think there's a there's an opportunity there. You've got change at Kansas State. You've got Houston should be good. We know where Texas Tech is. But there's an opportunity to be one of the best three or four teams in the conference. Yeah. I agreed with that fully. I think this season, if I had to find it going in, of course, defining a season going in is pointless and useless. But we do it every single year. And I'm going to do it right now. I think this season going in, the most fascinating storyline to me is there's three guys that would all do respect to Mario Crystal ball to play for a national title last year. I mean, there are three coaches and three programs fighting to break through to win the national title this year. And I truly believe the national champ is coming out of these three coaches and these three teams. And it is Steve Sarkies in Texas, Dan landing in Oregon, Marcus Freeman and Notre Dame. Those are three coaches who have never done it. Those are three programs. Or once never done it, one hasn't done it forever. One hasn't done it forever and a half. One of them is breaking through this year. I truly believe that which one would you put your money on? Which one do you lean on right here out of the gate? It's Fran from Chicks in the office. The weather is getting cooler and Abercrombie's fall drop has everything I need for the season. The best selling A and F Sloan Taylor pant is a closet staple for me. I'm always wearing it to work events. Happy hour. Anytime I want to be a bit more dressed up and the viral Dylan dress is easy. One and done perfection. But my fall uniform will always be denim pair with a handly sweater, a bra free top. It's comfortable effortless. It just never fails. Find your fall capsule at Abercrombie. Shop in the app online and in stores. And now back to the episode. So I would actually put Christopher on that group to I heard you all talking about this the other day. Yeah, I would put Christopher on that group too. I want to say day in landing. Because it it feels like I mean, he's the last eight games at Oregon. And I think four of them were to the team that won the national title that year. Yeah. You say I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that because most people do say landing. And honestly, if you look at it on the surface, it feels like landing. I just can't just I'm really having a hard time justifying. And I know they've lost the national champs. They lost Indiana. They lost the way they got knocked out. They were down 34, nothing against Ohio State in seconds a couple of years ago. And then last year pick six on the first play of the game. They were never in the game. It's Ohio State. They were never in the game against Indiana. And we knew they had the capability to beat Ohio State because they had already done it. And we knew they could hang with Indiana because they'd already done it and beat them, but they didn't hung with them. So why then and the playoff is it just bam, and they're just killed immediately. I can't just, I don't know how to just, well, those are two different circumstances because organ and one two games in the playoff last year. Obviously, JMU is not a challenge for them, but I, I did watch them completely dominate Texas second, the Orange Bowl. And then I, I was, I was at their, their Orange Bowl game and their Peach Bowl game. The Peach Bowl, I'd look at differently than the Rose Bowl against Ohio State the year before. The Rose Bowl against Ohio State the year before. There's no excuse for like they just didn't show up. They were flat. You can say they ran into a bus, but they had beaten that team already. There was, there was no excuse for the way they came out. Last year, they had zero healthy running backs. They were going to lose to whoever they played in the semis. It did not matter if they'd have played Ole Miss or Miami. They still would have lost by a lot like they were cooked at that point, which we're going to find that in a 12 team playoff scenario where somebody has a position group that gets completely decimated and they're helpless. That's what Oregon was at the end of last year. So I don't look at the, the way that Indiana beat them as representative. I, the, the Rose Bowl is still concerning, but I just think the way he puts teams together, the way he puts rosters together, he learned a lot from Kirby smart. They, they look a lot like Georgia did. And especially on the D line, like, yeah, Amari Washington and, and getting, getting out of this at a Barry Alexander, after George and USC, I would have said, Oh, you know, why, why do they take in the chance on this guy? He's already shown you what he is. They, they turned him into a great player. And then they am a table. We're going to lay. So I, yeah, I, I just, I like that roster a lot. I still like Texas is roster, probably the most. So the start with Sark, like, it feels like he's right there too. His, his Achilles heel's a red zone. Yeah. Throughout his career. And obviously, the one play everyone will point to is that pitch wide, wide, wide, against Ohio State in the, in a cotton bowl. But that has historically been his Achilles heel. So if he ever gets the red zone thing fixed, they're cruising to a national championship. Like they, they got everything else. Yeah, I agree with that. I've got a couple more questions for you. I know your time is, is, almost as valuable as mine. But, um, so here are my, here are my questions. I got three rapid fire right here at the end. Um, the pack 12 is back this year, right? The pack 12 was back. And I use, uh, if you listen to the podcast, I did air quotes because it's back in name. Uh, Andy, am I, am I a bad fan? I just, I can't, I can't get there with this version of the pack 12. I can't get myself to care. I can't, we get myself to say, Oh, wow, the pack 12 was back. I just longed for, for the regional conferences we had back in our lives. I longed for these super conferences to not be as big and I longed for actual pack 12 football. And this year, I know they're putting together an honest effort to, to get these teams into a group and it's good, but I can't get there any of my bad person. You're not, you're not. I was talking to someone the other day who works at Texas State. And I said something about winning the American. And they looked at me. Yeah. I had three heads. And I'm like, Oh, no, I'm so sorry. You guys went to the pack 12, not the American, uh, because they, they were in the sunbelt. And, and now they're in the pack 12. And it is, it is very confusing. Um, we had Jason Eck on our show from New Mexico on Wednesday. Uh, New Mexico remained in the mountain west, but Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, San Diego State, Utah State, right. All left. So they're all in the pack 12. No, you're not a bad fan. And it's okay to like the conferences we grew up with the way the conferences were aligned when we grew up. Like, when, when you and I were in high school and college, especially in college, the big east had good teams. Yes. Yeah. There were six really good, deep conference. They were all super deep. But they, they all could produce a national champion. And it's not like that anymore. And the original sin that has caused everything else is these giant conferences. That every, because they're trying to retcon the rest of the sport into a system where you have 18 and 17 and 16 team conferences. It wasn't built for that. Like when we were in college, the whack went to 16 teams. It was an utter disaster. Yeah. It should have been a lesson. I, and these big conferences just allow bad schedules to exist. They allow murderous schedules to exist. Like the two teams can play in the same conference, be of equal talent. One goes 10 and two against the cake schedule. One goes five and seven because they're playing a playoff team every week. It's just, it's just crazy. Um, I have a take that I am. Uh, it's in the oven right now. I'm watching it. I would like for you to look over my shoulder at it. Here's my take. Everybody talks about NIL and transfer portal flattening out the rosters at the top. You'll no longer have the super team, saving, can't dominate every year. I'll be able to dominate every year. Georgia can't dominate every year because it's flat at the top. I also think I'm working on this take. I think it also has flattened out at the bottom. I don't think we have true laughing stocks like we used to. I'm looking at the conferences coming in this year. Now Purdue is in a bad shape and they got to fight back. Um, but I look in the, and the conference is like in the SEC Arkansas will be bad. And, and I know the chat right now saying missus states left stock, not really. We're five and seven last year. We're, we're just, you have a very exciting quarterback. We're just average bad. We're not laughing stock bad. And I don't look in the SEC outside of Arkansas. I was trying to rebuild it with, with Silverfield now. I don't see any laughing stocks there. I don't see any laughing stocks on the big 12. Big 12 is like 16 teams. They mostly all think they're going to be pretty good in that conference. They mostly all think they have a chance. And, and, and I just, I just think the, the true laughing, the only one I can think of is North Carolina right now because of their situation. Boston College, if they don't get a lot better. Sure. Syracuse will be much better than they were at the end of last season. Because when they had their quarterback, when Steven jelly was healthy last year, they were actually pretty good. But Maryland was four and eight last year. And I know lastly took a lot of crap for saying, you know, three fourth quarter leads. They should have, they should have won six or seven games last year. I think the bottom of these leagues is a lot more competitive than it used to be. And I don't think we have the true. Oh, that team's going 0 and 12 this year. And there's nothing they can do about it. I think this, this sport has just compacted itself to where the top's not as top and the bottom's not as bottom. And I don't know really how to say it. Again, the only laughing stocks I can think of are like self-inflicted like bell checking the situation that they got going on there. We don't know what's going on there and other stuff. I think the true the true laughing stock and the true embarrassing program is kind of done. Is that take worth taking out of the oven? So I cook it a little bit more. So I'm going to take the toothpick and drop it into sure into your take. It's coming out clean. Pull that out of the oven. You're good because I think you're right. I look every big 10 schools rich, every SEC schools rich. There's no excuse for you to be terrible. We just watched Indiana, which was legitimately one of the most terrible programs in the history of college football. Yeah. Win the national title. Not everybody's going to be able to hire their own Kurt Segeni, but you can hire a competent coach and a competent general manager and you can deploy all of those dollars sensibly. And you don't have to like if you're a Purdue, you don't have to spend with Ohio State what Ohio State spends to be competitive. Yeah, you will have enough money to be competitive. You just have to spend it right. And even like last year's laughing stock, like you said, this is a team that you said earlier, Oklahoma State. They they bottomed out. They snapped their fingers. They turned the faucet back on and here we go. The errors pointed right back up. It's it's there's a there's a caught a silt of this. I don't know what that word is. When you have a coach who tells you they need patience in time. Yeah. Fire's ass. Billy Napier Florida was was we preach that he was like we're going in the year four. I don't know what you want me to do. Like, um, dignity went to the playoff in year one due to Indiana. So he's kind of ruined it for everybody else. My last question, uh, thank you for being here, Andy. Um, I think playoff or bust is a dangerous, uh, a dangerous statement. And it's impossible to say playoff or bust in somebody's first year. That's not fair. It's not right. You would never expect it. But if you spend 40 million on a roster and if you're if you're the loudest guy in the sport and you leave a playoff team during the playoff, if you leave a championship team during the playoff, you kind of maybe playoff or bust for LSU. Is that crazy? Oh, there's no maybe about it. It's playoff for us. Wow. You didn't do all this. You didn't dump Brian Kelly. You didn't pay Lane Kiffin. You didn't pay for this roster to not make the playoff. Like the goal is at LSU is to win the national title. Yes. If you're not making the playoff, you're not coming close to meeting your goals. The goal is to win the national title. Does he have to win the national title in year one? No. That would be unreasonable. Mm-hmm. Should he make the playoff given what he has? What advantages he was given given his history of being able to flip teams quickly? Yes. Yeah. And now I want to push back on something that you say a lot because I heard you talking defending Dan Mullin, which I do think Dan Mullins an excellent football coach and I know he's going to get another chance at a power conference. And I'm actually very excited to see him in this era where you don't necessarily have to recruit a bunch of five stars at a high school. But you you get on Florida for firing Dan Mullin. I do. You should get on Florida for firing or for hiring Billy Napier. True. But the firing Dan Mullin part, there's a there the former Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley. Long time ago says and it's actually, I believe it's a Henry Kissinger quote, what must be done eventually must be done immediately? Sure. Was Dan Mullin recruiting the way he was recruiting going to win a national title at Florida? I don't know the answer to that question, but I don't think it's a hard no. I don't think it's a hard no. See, I do, I do think it's a hard, like, was Dan Mullin ever going to get them better than Kirby Smart was going to have Georgia? On a year to year basis, no, but I do think every now and then he could have, he could have picked with the right quarterback. And I take you back to 2014 when he took a team to number one, they didn't stay there, but he had Dak Prescott and he developed Dak Prescott. He didn't start Dak Prescott till year four. Now is that possible in this day and age? That's. And he wouldn't have started if Tyler Russell hadn't gotten hurt. That wouldn't have started Kyle Trask, if Felipe Franks hadn't gotten hurt. But that's that fine. But in this day and age, can you develop a quarterback? No, but I believe I trust Dan Mullin to every now and then have a team and a roster that is going to be one of the best in the country. That 2020 team might have been the third or fourth best team in the country by the end when they almost beat it, Alabama, Alabama just wrecked everybody from then on out. So if Marco Wilson doesn't throw the shoe, we don't know, we don't know what happens. But sure, sure. But I, but I, this, this is where I was going to get on you because that was, that's a very Mississippi state mentality of he's, he's doing fine. He's, he's, he's good. If your goal is to win the national title. Yeah. And you don't have a coach who's going to win national title. You need a new coach. I think I also think they, they fired him right before Anthony Richardson's junior year. And no, no history has shown us in the pros that maybe, maybe he wasn't going to be anything. He got more out of Anthony. He would have gotten way more out of Anthony Richardson. He would have, that was the perfect, that was the perfect quarterback for him. I think given him that one year to, he had four years of Florida. Three of them were, were, were very good. And the air was pointed out. One was bad. And they used the recruiting, well, his recruiting rankings are in line with every single recruiting ranking. Florida's had to last 15 years outside the my operation outside the higher operation. I, I am, you know, as, as somebody who works for a site that does the recruiting rank is I, I don't mean to bag on the product. But all recruiting classes are not created equal. All top 10 recruiting classes are not created equal. When you don't sign any five star offensive lineman ever. That's a pro. Like, and, and Napier, by the way, didn't either. Maxwell Hiller, who's committed to Florida right now. If he signs in December will be their first five star offensive lineman since 2015. I guess, I guess my, my thinking is, you know, we, we agree on the 2020 Florida team that I, I feel like it was really good. I just feel like Mullen, is Mullen gonna build those Kirby smart roster from year to year. It would be a lie for me to sit here and say, yes, but no, I, I want to, I want to see him get a chance in this era because it's different now. Oh, buddy. You don't, you don't have to do what Florida wanted him to do. And he wasn't doing. I'm about to tell you something I've never told anybody, Andy. Um, and, and, uh, we probably won't even put this out. Um, I may or may not have on November 28th, 2025 after the eggball sent down a DM saying, please come home. I, I don't know if I did that. I don't, I don't know if I did that. I don't know if I said, he's, he's the best coach in Mississippi state history, right? Like that's, uh, yeah, it's him, it's him followed by Jack and Sheryl, but he, he, he, he, Dan, Dan was the best, Dan was the best. Uh, but listen, he also left a year too soon. Like, we had a number one deep, whatever. Don't get me in my feelings about this. Uh, I, I just feel like you're Florida over the last night. Since Urban Meyer, every single time they have put out a help wanted sign, they have never gotten a coach as good as Dan Mullin. And the second he had one bad season, they said, you're out of here. And they're been chasing, they've been chasing him ever since the best of the post buyer coaches. Yeah. And, and, and, and, and like, yeah, you can say, oh, well, we're going to go higher, Billy Napier, uh, and it's going to work and it didn't work. And now, well, John Sumerow is going to work surely. Well, what if it doesn't work? And all of a sudden, you're through the coaches go hire somebody else. That's, but that's the problem. But that's the problem. That's what the money's for. If they, if it were that easy, they would have already done it. They would have gotten a Urban Meyer quality coach. Every single time they hang out, they help wanted sign, they don't get a good guy. This is why you go Mike DuBose. And then you go Dennis, Franchionie. Yeah. And I'm sure Alabama wants to go through that. And you go Mike Shula. And then you get your Nick Sabin. Yeah. And then you got to get left that a little bit sometimes. And then you get Kaylyn DeBorne. You might be going Mike DuBose again soon. So, who knows? Who knows? I was speaking to an Alabama group and they asked me which of the mics he was the closest to I was like, guys, you, that is mean. Yeah. Nine and three and ten and two in two years. Well, I would, I would at least say he's closer to DuBose. Cause yeah. Yeah. Or Shula and the SEC was the 99 team was very good. Yeah. Don't, don't remind me. But he's definitely not close to price. Price never even got on the sideline. Price never even made it to this baby. I don't know if he actually said that. Yeah. Well, it's funny. If he did, I also don't know if Jim McAwayne did a shark, but it's still fun here if he did. So this was very fun. I appreciate you. It's very fun talking college football with you. I don't know if you'll have time during the season. Maybe we'll do it again. And I'm going to give you a gift. Absolutely. And we're going to have to reciprocate. We got to have you on. Cause I need, I need you. Wait, who's your co-host? My white ass to talk. All right. Wasserman. My white ass. All right. Andy, thank you very much. I appreciate your time. Thank you, Brandon.