White House Press Sec FIRED After 5 Days w/ Patrick Byrne

with only five days on the job Katie Zachariah is out as press secretary and this story is just the whole political world's blown up because it's been bad for this this poor young woman when she kind of did to herself she had a terrible day one claim she was a lawyer when she wasn't even Hannity came after her and then Donald Trump himself comes out and says maybe this is not for her. I guess she refused to resign because now we're hearing that she's been fired which is massive. So we'll talk about that of course. We also have flying cars. Elon Musk has just announced the Roadster with an amazing display last night. I'm sure most of you have seen it by now. It generated 4,700 kilograms of downforce suctioning itself upside down before ejecting and flipping over not to mention it launched from the ground and did a kickflip like 20 feet in the air. It's a car doing it. Mind you it's not really a flying car. It's got thrusters but it can't really fly for all that long estimates put it at maybe two to three seconds or less of flight time. Still a very very very cool vehicle and it's basically the biggest story. So we'll talk about that and of course my friends we have new data coming out from the midterm elections North Carolina or North Carolina's early voting data has come in and it is an apocalypse for the Republicans. All voter turnout is up except the Republican party which is down. Democrats have nearly 50% of the vote already and that includes Republicans and independence. Republican I think Republicans have like 20% or less. So everybody's saying we thought it was going to be bad but this is very very bad. So my friends welcome to the brand new Tim Castillo RL studio. Can we get a wide shot real quick? Do we have the watch out? Look at that. We are not yet done with setting everything up. We still got a bunch of cool things to add but of course we got the cars hanging out. We got art and design and llamas and swords and all that cool stuff and we'll be adding more to it as we go. We're still working on this actually just one studio in a bigger office. We're based in DC now which means when you get all the very special members of Congress with the midterm coming up it's going to be a lot of fun. But let's talk about the news today. We have an interesting guy joining us today. The story you were telling me before we even went live was crazy. Which one was that? Self-sacrifice. I shouldn't say losing but putting all of your money into this. Introduce yourself sir. My name is Patrick Bern. I'm an entrepreneur. I'm a bunch of different things but one of the things was that I became in the bottom years domestic extremist threat number one per the DHS. Bravo sir. If I'm proud of that. And that was because I sort of started this whole movement that I came out a few days after the Trump election in 2020 and I didn't vote for Trump. But I'm a Ron Paul guy but I and a little bit but that I came out and said it was the first to say the election was rigged. These machines can't be trusted and for that I and I got that movement going and eventually I had to flee the country for two years. I figured it would have been you went to church too many times. I don't know how much of this is public but you know I was talking to you before and I was like well you're a billion there aren't you? I was worth about half a billion. The reason why I brought that up is because it's crazy that they come after a man of such stature as yourself. I mean we've described this as a battle of the elites at the highest level for a man of your position to invest all of your resources into this fight for them to try and come after you over it. What I'm trying to say I guess is that a lot of people don't believe that the ultra wealthy in the political class are separated from each other. They assume that if you're ultra wealthy you're in the club and you're going to stay in the club. Well I could have been in the club I was in the club but I didn't want to be I don't I'm not much of a joiner. I'm not much of a joiner. I also have an advantage. I have no wife, no children and I've had 119 surgeries as of this summer and I've had cancer now four times so I'm kind of hard got to scare or and as Mike Flynn said to me once what are you saving it for? So I basically plowed it all into what I did in the last four or five years. With what we're seeing with the midterms it'll be interesting to hear your thoughts on all this stuff so I appreciate you joining us staying out. That's going to be a lot of fun. This is my honor especially in the news. I've been I've been admire of yours since your New Jersey days. I remember when you moved to West Virginia. Yeah I appreciate it man. Welcome. Welcome. You get to be here for day one of the new studio. It's amazing. My favorite thing about it the security. Yeah. Yeah. The that you can't get in the building. That's been an issue for you right? I mean we so when we moved so we were in our western Maryland studio we didn't have a gate and so we had people actually just walk into the building like burglary like literally it's it's like misdemeanor to felony territory pulling up walking in during these shows and it's resulted in chaos. And so we set up physical barriers for the legal requirement to be like okay and then hired security. We built the new studio with with an actual gate so we had one guy drive up to the gate and get out screaming that he was sent by God to come and talk to me and we're like it's a good thing. What's the guys to avoid? Yeah but worked out I got a job out of it. He was tenacious. Yeah yeah yeah we were like well we'll let this one guy. No no we that guy did not get let in. In fact we wouldn't grab their guns. The new studio that we're in is part of a much larger media building and now you keep card access security guards very very very secure and hard to find even if you make it into the building. So we're very excited for that and very excited to have you for our first day here at the new studio as we're still actually you know working on it and getting it up. But the boys are hanging out which which the boys are going to talk first. Man I'm glad you're here Pat. I mean we you were an early investor in mines or I guess not an early investor more of a mid late later investor I don't know 2017 something like that 2016. Yeah sounds right. And your voter integrity things really important to me and I think blockchain could be a really good use like if we had 19 different blockchains that the vote goes to so you could verify none neither the machines have been compromised and sort of good in theory but we have to have two election system that does two things one it runs a fair election and two it's transparent. Once you introduce technology and cryptography no one's going to on a few people are going to understand it. I think we got to get all the technology out of elections and go back very simple. Oh no I'm not even trust that everyone's got to go to stadium and raise their hand and then we're going to count. Yeah say yay or nay. Okay to be fair you know everyone gets in stadium and then you get a green or a red light and click a button green finger like they did in Iraq. You have to put your finger on the paper. But anyway Phil and Tater hanging out. Hello hello Tate how are you so I'm doing quite well happy to be here and I love that day. Nations capital you can see the capital building right down the street. Oh yeah very good. We were we were we were credibly told senators and members of congress will now gladly run over to do the show and that was that was part of it. Part of it's like it's always annoying interviewing politicians because they give you politician answers. I believe the congressman will be here congressman and women will be here senators. No no we've had a few senators already reached out. They get their nose up in the air. It's crazy wow. You think highly of themselves. Don't bring them back if they give you the politician answers just don't bring them back. Well we're in for a treat. I mean I was hanging out with my friend Jack shout out Jack before the show and we just went to get lunch like literally down the street from here and exceptionally high profile individuals just sitting at the bar having a drink and I'm like I can't say who it is. No I can't because I want to blow up a spot. You can but you want to describe the context of this person's importance like a politician. He is the editor of arguably the largest. A big media guy. Big media guy. So a big media and I wanted to go tap him to the shoulder and say we have a spare chair but I knew we were going to a full house time. It's ordinarily I could be like no no but someone that would be like oh I might pop. I was like Tucker. You got to go up to these guys and be like nice to meet you. I'm tape. I'm with Tim Cass. I don't know if you're familiar. Well we didn't have an open chair today. I don't want to let him down. I'm not saying you invite him now just be like you should come on at some point. I will. He's like I was underdressed at never time. I know I just I was off. I was off my game. I'm glad we're here because it's like we're an inflection point in human history with AI. Like that we're here in the capital of the largest most powerful country in the world. Stones throw away from Congress running the world's government is like he's turning it to a cowboy. I just e-ha e-ha baby. I'm going to get spurs next time. I'm looking at you on the monitor and I'm like every day Ian is more cowboy than he was. I did get in and I whipped myself in the face training with it. Oh man. It's a weapon. It's not a toy. It is not a toy. Yes literally. I'm not. You can whip things and pull them towards you and all that. Okay. How about we talk about news? Oh yeah. We got this from the New York Times Katie Zacharias outside after five days as White House press secretary. The Astor came as Miss Zacharias was shadowed by questions about how she had presented her legal career and handled her first press briefing. All right. I'll give you the quick gist of it and then we'll get into it. She comes on for her first day. It's not very good. She was stuttering, misspeaking. She got roasted for it. That in and of itself not that big a deal. I mean first day jitters. I can I can understand that. But then everyone's like you said you're a lawyer. Where did you pass the bar? And she didn't. And there's this weird moment where she's with Trump and someone asks and then she leans and then says when I was in China. Now the obvious thing there she went. She said I went to China. Like I went to China instead of passing the bar or she was just answering a different question. Well she just because someone yelled at Trump and then you heard her say something after Trump spoke doesn't mean she was there's a bunch of reporters all yelling. Well she clarified she thought that the question that was asked was where did you go after you took the bar, which is like a completely different wording. It's that she didn't take the bar. It would be hard to miss or she took the bar. She just didn't pass. Oh really? You know only 30% pass on the first try. that big a disgrace, 70% cheating try again. And when they asked her, she said, "I went to China." I heard it is like, "Well, I didn't stay and do the bar exam again, instead I went to China." - Is this a story where someone lie down there resume to get a job and then, whoopsie. - It's another one of those stories. - Yeah, well, because Sean Hannity was roasting around his show, he interviewed her. And wow, I mean, when you're the Republican administration's press secretary and Sean Hannity's has come for an interview and you get ambushed, it's like. - I had to look away. Do we have a clip of that? - But the ambush was very non-aggressive. It was just very calculated, very simple, straight forward. - It shows that Hannity, he can be an attack dog whenever he wants. I think there's two, I'd be curious what you guys think. I think there's potentially two motivations for Hannity, why he would do such a thing. The first, I think, is likely is that potentially President Trump gave him a call and said, "Hey, it'd be convenient if you could maybe, you know." - Take her out. - Rough her up a little bit, so that way we have. - Rough her up. - Yeah, so that way we've been excused to take her out. Or the other explanation, which is also equally intriguing. And I want to get, you know, again, this is just what people are saying, this is not my opinion. That because she gave Jack Posobick her first big interview, you know, everyone wants the first interview with the new press secretary. Instead of Hannity, Hannity might have had a bone to pick saying, "Hey, I should have gotten the first." I'm Trump's, you know, attack dog. I should have gotten the first interview. So some people are speculating maybe it was a personal, personal thing as well. I don't know, I'd be curious what you guys think on that. - I'd put my chips on number one. - Yeah, me too, actually, me too. - That does seem like something that Donald Trump would do. I don't know much about Hannity's, you know, personal vendetta is against the current administration. So I don't know that I have-- - I got this suite right here. This guy haven't said, "I have a feeling Donald Trump called Sean Hannity and told him to assassinate her." And he did. This is the entire interview. Well, we'll just play some of it, but let's take a listen. - Straight ahead. All right, Katie, I know this is a widely viewed interview for you. And you had your first moment as press secretary. It's been widely panned, I'm sure you're aware. It only lasted 14 minutes. You only took three questions. Questions about your legal background, calling yourself a lawyer. You went to Pepperdine Law School, but you did not pass the bar exam, correct? - Correct. - Okay, what happened? How did you feel at when, personally? - Well, Sean, I want to give some background and it's nice to be on here with you and such a privilege to serve as President Trump's new press secretary. I was given the offer last Wednesday, or I got a phone call last Wednesday. I flew out to DC on Thursday. I had a meeting on Friday, was offered the job. I flew home to California on Saturday, flew back to Washington on Sunday, was asked to start on Monday, Sean, which is Columbus Day, and so it's a federal holiday, and have a press briefing at 9.30 in the morning on Tuesday. So what I feel is I really stepped up and to the plate to do the press conference, Sean, with very little prep time I received briefing materials in the morning of Tuesday, and I went to deliver all of the great results that President Trump is delivering for the American people that are not often spread in the national media. So I took it as an opportunity that so people would know what he's doing for Americans and how hard he's working. And then I delivered some breaking news. I think I'm one of the first press secretaries to deliver staff changes for the administration, and I was honored that President Trump trusted me, delivering that information, and then I took several questions. And I think it's been mixed, Sean, because they've said I only took questions from conservative outlets, however, the daily mail is not known to be a conservative outlet or friendly to conservative, so I do challenge that narrative. And then as I should have, I ended the conference, and I left as I believe, given the fact that I'd been on the job less than maybe eight hours and had a briefing book in the morning, I feel like I did my very best, Sean, to deliver for the American people that are-- - We'll give Sean one response. Am I hearing that you think the staff should have prepped you better? - Well, I believe that in that time, I could have just given a brief intro. - Okay, we get it, we get it, we get it. Already the chat is blowing up, and they're like, sorry, she's-- - Her voice-- - Even her reply to Sean Hannity was not concise, it was trying to pass the bug, she's not the material to be the prosecutor. - The appropriate response should have been that she went on Hannity and said, "Is my first day? "I didn't do as well as I should have, "but rest assured, I will do substantially better next time, "and the president will be proud." - Look, she was following-- - You'd be like, oh, I love it. - Karen Levit was very good, and Kayley McAnany was incredibly knowledgeable about whatever topic, the press through it. She had that binder where she basically had the ammunition to answer almost anything the press was gonna throw at her. So she had a, they're a tough act to follow, but that doesn't mean that she did the job. - I gotta say, I am over this. Donald Trump, basically being like, I want a white blonde woman to be the press secretary, and not even looking the qualifications. We were talking about this before the show. I'm not gonna name the person, the individual person, but everyone's heard the story 'cause I think Trump told it personally that he's in a meeting with a bunch of guys and his lawyer, a young woman, comes in with paperwork, and the guys, when she walks out, they're like, wow. She seems young, is she a good lawyer? And Trump goes, she's good to look at. And I'm just like, at a certain point, Trump, stop. Just, it's like Burlesconi, he's like, I'm gonna surround myself with young women, instead of people who can do the job. I'm not trying to be a dick to Katie. I do think the media tact her unfairly. She barely had a chance. She's thrust in this position. I get the lawyer thing. People are like, you're not in your resume. I think that really did it. She needed an opportunity, but at the same time, Donald Trump should maybe consider hiring. I don't know, qualified people, instead of young blonde women again, are women with lift fillers. - Yeah, a qualified young blonde woman. I guess Katie McAnany and Karen Levette, both blonde, young, both women. And they were good. And they were good. That's why I'm like, I'm not here to be like, no blonde woman allowed, you know what I mean? I'm just saying at a certain point, Trump, Lord have mercy. Like, with all due respect, Fox News is roasted for this all the time. It's like, welcome to the white blonde woman show. - Yeah, I mean, it's a four of DEI, you know, it's like, people complain about it, but if you want the hot blonde, - It's a reverse DEI. - It's not that's DEI, it's like most people like looking at attractive blonde women. I get it. But Trump, come on. Like, like, Christie Nome, you know, like Pam Bondi, everyone's going like, why is Trump just keep putting these women that it's, we get it. It's Burlusconi. It's, you know, I want to surround myself with women. - Well, it's funny. You think about who's been like-- - He thinks he's Gaddafi. - Yeah, you do. You think about who's been like the surprises or who's been like the successes, the strong, you know, the strong cabinet officials. You know, you start to think, oh, Stephen Miller has been, you know, he's been pretty good. Ruby has been a bit of a surprise. You get on the list that, you know, best sense been interesting. It's all men. And then you're like, oh, who's been the flops so far in the cabinet? It's all women. It's like, there's something there. - You were going to say something, Patrick. Sorry, I'll call you. - Well, no, I, well, A, I agree that the class he was answer that she should have given is first day jitters, I'll do better, I'll make you proud. Would have let a lot slide. He does have this, I'm, he does have this habit. And I'll tell you a personal story. Do you remember this, I think, a moderately famous story on December 18th, 2020, myself and General Flynn and Sidney Powell snuck into the White House and had this meeting? That was, that was me. That we snuck into the White House and met with a Trump and tried to talk him to do the right thing. One of the things that made that happen was until then, we had had a reasonably good way of communicating. It was through Rudy, what we were learning. We had all these computer scientists working for us. We're digging up stuff. It was tough feeding it to Rudy who was 85 and wasn't gonna understand cybersecurity, but it was at least Rudy. Somewhere in there, two journalists, I won't mention their names, attractive young women, went over, this is November, late November, 2020, went over to the White House one day. I saw them and go over, dressed up and sort of flouncy dresses and high leather boots to go in and to the White House. They came back three hours later and said, to me and Mike Flynn, okay, okay, for, we've actually, we're now advising Trump. When you have stuff, you give it to us and we'll brief Rudy. So we had like all kinds of cybersecurity guys doing amazing work and we had to feed it through a couple of bimbo's and he has no idea. There's actually another woman I won't mention who it is 'cause I think it's actually one of the better women on the staff that allegedly I'm told he, she had hired, she was in a one-piece bathing suit and high heels walking around his country club one day and he was having lunch called her over, got to the next day he hired her as a lawyer. She has turned out to be, I think, pretty solid. But yeah, he's got this old man's pension for just wanting to surround himself with Hadi. - Loot and lessivious, perhaps. - Well, I mean, it can't be that. Loot, he was wearing a one-piece, right? - All right. - That was a joke. - Unforced error. - And we don't mean, of course, like a unitard, we mean just one. - Yeah, just one-piece. - I'm kidding, I'm kidding. - So you can have a whole category of unforced errors by Donald Trump. I consider and say all kinds of things I agreed and admire about what he's done, but he has a long list of unforced errors. Oh, I, I agree. And like, the annoying thing to me is the people who live in Trump can never do anything wrong, world. And I'm just like, listen, it is reasonable to say that Donald Trump is better than Kamala Harris would have been. And he's better than Joe Biden was. But look, just because the Democrats are wack alloons, doesn't mean you got to just lick Trump's ass. You know what I mean? Like, this is stupid. Why? You know, I'll cut him some slack, I will, because he tried bringing in the swamp guys, the DC guys in his first term and that backfired. So then he tries bringing in loyalists, but he brings in a bunch of these women. And it's like, okay, I'm just, I'm just tired to be completely honest. I'm not going to pretend that Kamala Harris would be doing better. I think it'd be substantially worse to be honest. I don't think we'd have a country anymore. We just need a lot of, need a lot of Stephen Miller's. Yeah, seriously, Trump should have just said, Stephen Miller, you're in charge. Do whatever you want. He's not particularly easy on the eyes, especially when compared to the, the people that Trump has had as press secretary. But Stephen Miller is definitely the guy that's that, well, seems to have Trump's ear in and has smart. Yeah, it's very smart guy. Stephen Miller should hit the gym right now and do that. Chris Hemsworth, Hollywood Thor routine. Yeah, they just get some like mad Jack. He's got the eye show up doing that thing where it's like you have the collar with the tie, but no shirt on. Massively Jack and be like a chip and Dale Terry now and chief of staff. Chip and Dale's. I want Stephen Miller to be chief of staff. He needs to be at the rumors and they go off of, I mean, that would be a serious, serious upgrade. I think there's probably Trump officials who saw the news last night. We're probably weeping tears of joy. Susie Wells might be out, who's been causing tremendous problem. I mean, if you look at like a lot of these handicaps, you look at these corruption, these credible corruption accusations about the Trump administration. A lot of it goes back to her. There's there's really no question about it. And that's ultimately what's really frustrating. This is how Orban and that people of that ilk lost the youth in hunger. You look at the young right wingers, you know, people that are to the right of gang is con. We're out on Orban. A lot of it was this corruption, this tit tat, just kind of nonsense going on every day. And then a lot of it was this boomer garbage that we're seeing. We were shoveling in all these Fox news hosts and getting nothing done. And all we're doing is having these great sound bites. Meanwhile, there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of economic in it. You're screaming for help, right? Like the year over year, we are hourly wages down. I mean, this is stuff that affects young people dramatically. So, to get back to the like sort of what I was getting at is just, you know, this kind of stuff is just really off putting to young people. And you may be saying, well, you know, young people don't make up a large part of the voting base for primaries. And you're absolutely correct. You don't need young. If you're a Republican and you're trying to win your primary, you don't need young people. That's just the reality of the situation. But you're gonna need them a in the future for voting and then be to staff your campaigns. Who do you think who do you think your activists are? Your activists are your young people. That is the engine room of any political movement. Did you guys run that video yesterday or the day before the the the the the Instagram video I post I shared where it's like Gen Z versus boomers. Did you guys run that one? Oh, not yet. We're gonna run that one because I was talking about that earlier today. And the idea that their boomer is saying we're gonna tax Gen Z to pay for our social security. You are asking for a revolution. You are asking for a Molotov cocktails through your window. You are never going like I'm sorry. I was shocked at that polling. But let's do this. Excuse me. We'll get to that. Let's jump here to this story. We got this post from data Republican 16 October, North Carolina early voting update day one. And it is bad for Republicans. Ladies and gentlemen, the Republicans just got the first smack in the face a 21.6 shift 21.6 point shift towards Democrats takes out an early voting that opened yesterday. Data Republican is saying the North Carolina map now defaults all early voting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At this point, 22, the early vote was D plus 13. It finished D plus seven with and Republican still won every statewide race. A Democratic lead in the early vote is normal day one right now. We're looking at a 21.6 point shift by 21 and a half point shift towards Democrats all early voting so far. Now, of course, people are going to say, but hold on early voting tends to be Democrat. Anyway, yes, this is taking that into consideration. Republicans are minus 9.1 Democrats up 5.1 independence up four. Raw Democrat Republican margin plus 14.2 shift towards Democrats D plus 27.4 with independence split by each county's R&D ratio. Turn out as up 25% overall and 47% in person. Republicans are the only group that went down Republican in person Bouts fell 12% Democrat rose 78% lord have mercy. Republicans are about to get kicked so hard in the balls. You're going to feel it at home. Now, we got this from Kowshi midterms balance of power currently sitting at a staggering 62% chance of a Democrat suite. I just want to be shout out to kowshi.com for sponsoring the show and we love their data. This is tracking where people are putting their money based on what they think is going to happen. Polls be damned. We've been talking about, yeah, well, you know, the polls could be biased indeed. What we're looking at right now is where people are placing their money and more importantly, what people have already done. So with that being said, boys, it's looking like the Republicans are going to get in the ass. You know, the worst part about it is it's not just the Republicans are going to probably lose the house and if these numbers hold probably will lose the Senate, but the American people are going to pay for it. There's not going to be any kind of movement on any policies that the Trump administration wants. He'll still have the ability to do things through executive action, but he's also going to have significantly more resistance from the House. And I think that it makes it more likely that the Democrat win in the in 28 as president. And if that's the case, unless the Republicans take the house back, I don't, I don't, I don't know, I don't completely agree. I think one of the issues right now is to why Democrats are doing well is simply that Republicans control everything. And if they control everything, no matter what happens, people will complain and the people who complain will vote against you because what are they really voting on? I'm going to vote for the other guy. I think the people are voting right, but my point is come 2028. If Democrats take the legislative branch and things are bad, Republicans can use that to say, well, you voted the Democrats in the midterms and look what they brought. I think people are blaming Donald Trump right now. And I think that they'll continue to do that after if the Democrats take the House and Senate, you're going to see, like I said, you're not going to see any kind of significant policies that help the American people because there's no incentive for the Democrats to pass legislation that helps the American people. So you're going to have two more years of negative results for the American people. And so they're still going to look at the Republicans and they're going to say you didn't do anything Donald Trump's to blame. They're still going to blame Donald Trump. And I think the Democrats are not completely convinced because if Democrats take the legislative branch Republicans, I think are counting on culture war conflict in which, of course, Democrats are going to impeach Trump. Trump's going to say we're trying to fix things and all you're doing is blah, blah, blah, blah. And then when it comes time to vote, you know, I'll say this, I think, and you know, I'm going to say this because I think your opinion pet will be very, very different. But without COVID, actually, I may agree, without COVID Trump wins 2020, regardless of what you think about voting machines or anything like that, no mail-in voting and Trump wins, like Biden, come on. But when you get mass ballot harvesting and you get a COVID lockdown, turning low propensity voters into active voters, then yeah, Democrats are going to pull out all the stops and they're going to have voter signature verification at a very, very low rate. Make sure Biden gets those votes. So 2020, I'm not so sure. I think if Democrats do take Congress, they're going to do things and Trump and their Republicans are going to campaign on what Democrats have done. They wasted our time. They caused fights and we couldn't get bills passed, blah, blah. Let me give you a more draconian possibility. On day one, I came, well, first of all, if they take the House, Democrats will have Speaker Hakeem Jeffries. He will on day one and get Trump impeached. The Senate, even if it's 51-52 Democrats, you'll have, at this point, 16 to 20 Republicans will switch sides and vote to convict the establishment. You think Republicans will vote to convict in them? I think there's enough of them. I think there's 16 to 20 in there who have shown their true colors on some key votes and key more like committee votes over the last couple years. There's the establishment Republicans want to be done with the Trump era and they will vote to convict and you will have president Hakeem Jeffries and AOC or somebody else's vice president. Well, they're not going to remove Vance. No, they will. The Democrats are so crazy at this point. They'll indict them both. They'll impeach them both and you'll have Republicans will do that. I can certainly see a reality where they'd like to remove Vance, but they do not have the political capital for that. Removing Trump is a long shot already because these, while I agree, there's probably a fair amount of Republican senators who are ready to jump ship. The issue is will they survive politically back home in their states? I don't think so. I think Trump, his polls are bad, but he still controls so much of the Republican base, the Maga Republican base, that you come out as a Republican senator and say Trump is bad and you're voting to impeach him. You lose 20, 30% of that vote. You'll never get elected again. So I think Trump getting convicted is a long shot, but throwing Vance in there, I don't see that being a possibility. I mean, Vance was a senator. He does a personal relationship with a lot of these Republican senators. So yeah, I mean, to Tim's point, Trump's a long shot, but I think Vance is probably off the table just because a lot of these guys knew him personally. And you know, a lot of this culture or stuff, a lot of these senators hating each other. As we all know, it's all kind of k-fade behind the scenes. They all get along. They're all chumming it up. I think Vance is in the Senate long enough for, especially the Republican senators will probably, they won't risk that relationship getting thrown in the air. From your lips to God's ear. Yeah. It's fair. Well, I mean, look, if the Republicans don't -- I mean, I see -- I don't think that I would put anything past the Democrats. I'm not so sure that there are that many Republicans. They'd have to be 60 votes to get them out for them to be convicted, correct? 67. 67. But if the Democrats had 52, 53 seats, then they need 14, 15, 16 Republicans. Yeah. I mean, I think that there are Republicans that would vote to impeach. I just don't know if there are that many Republicans. Well, what I would say is this, if -- I don't think it's day one. If there is a scenario in which they do convict Trump and get 15 Republicans to flip, you're going to need a political cast's belly as it were. So let's say day one, Hakeem Jeffrey says, we're going to be launching congressional investigations against Republicans for impropriety, Donald Trump and his political law fair. What they would have to do is -- and I don't put it past them -- is fabricate or, let's just say, drum up a story of such corruption that Republican senators say something like, I'm sorry, I don't want this to be the case, but I have no choice. Since we learned that Donald Trump kicked that puppy into a burning building and left it, I must vote to convict. So whatever the story is, they will first have to take six to 12 months building up this narrative and getting a story so that enough Americans are shocked and then they create the pathway by which Republicans could defect and say Trump's got to be removed. Good analysis. What I'm afraid is that Trump has given hostages to fortune, that he has because of the corruption around him, he has allowed things to happen, particularly with regards to Venezuela, that could provide the Democrats just that story. Russia. This Trump cutting a deal with Russia on oil right now, particularly at a time when Russia was already sanctioned, showing the desperation due to the around war, I think what we'll likely see is you might get hearings on Trump's -- the schoolgirls that were killed in Iran. Imagine Democrats come out and say, based on new evidence received, we're launching an inquiry into the 50, 60 schoolgirls that were killed by Trump word strikes, they'll then get people to come and testify before Congress about the little girls that were murdered. And then they'll -- you'll get, you know, I don't know, insert Democrat going on TV and saying, it shocks the conscience that Donald Trump murdered those little girls. And then you get Republicans saying like, while we understand that war is tragic, Donald Trump was callous, reckless, and murderous in the murder of these children. All they got to do is parade every single day and every single media outlet that Trump murdered little girls. And Republicans are going to -- what happens is these Republicans probably still know they'll lose, but they'll be able to go to their rally and say, I have no choice, Trump murdered those children. Right. That is one -- that is one course. I do think it has turned out that there was an IRGC facility next to that school. Well, I didn't say it was true or false, I'd say. We had precision weapons. Our precision weapons are not always as precise as there was supposed to be is what happened. There is no truth only the argument. The Democrats need only say that's a lie to cover up for a man who murdered children. And this is what's going to happen. I mean, look what they said about you, right? They went after you like crazy and not like -- and much worse. I thought -- I got some of this heat when Mayor Garland came out in October and accused me of taking -- indirectly taking money from Russia. Well, that's right. You were a Russian asset, too. Like, completely -- here we are still doing the show, still making money. Nothing's changed. And then a month after the election, it disappears. Yes, it may be true that it was collateral damage, it was accidental. They will just lie. They'll say, Trump. They'll say, we -- you know, you'll get Adam Schiff going on TV holding a middle folder saying, I can't show this because it's classified. But a source said, Trump said, kill those girls. And doesn't matter if it's true or not. Why do you think that's a higher probability event than some of the people around him who are involved in, you know, Jared and Whitkoff are out there with -- out of one side of the mouth, they're negotiating like their U.S. government officials, out of the other side of the mouth, they're like doing condo deals. Because the third grader can't understand that. So when you look at politics, I think they say that the average grade vocabulary is third grade. So if you go to third grader and say, listen, you didn't understand about Jared Kushner and Whitkoff. You're going back room deals where they're negotiating with the Saudis and then going with it. You have the ambassador degrees. And the third grader is going to be like, I want pizza. But if you go to the third grader and say, Donald Trump hit your friend, Sally, who go, why? Why would Trump do that? So you're going for the lowest common denominator. And I'm not trying to say the average American is stupid. I'm trying to say that an average American who doesn't pay attention to politics hears Trump intentionally murdered children and they're going to be like, look, I don't know what's going on. But I am not in favor of that. And if they can shift things against Trump even 10 or so points, you can get those defective Republican senators to say, I understand that you like Trump. I understand you don't like Democrats, but as a man or woman of principle, I am here to lead the American people and do its right and the revelations that we've received about Donald Trump or that strike on the school intentionally are disqualifying for me. I'm voting to convict. Again, I'm not saying that's true. I'm saying it is the cleanest narrative for Democrats to approach because the story already exists in the mind of people. Democrats have already campaigned on it effectively. And once they're in Congress, they can find new evidence to your point about getting JD Vance. I think that they won't go. They won't stop with JD Vance. I mean, there's already Rob Connist talking about impeaching the excepterial war. So I started that. Yeah. I mean, and Ian will come for him next. Did I? If they get Trump in Vance, number three in line is Speaker Hockey and Jeffries. Indeed. And then you have a situation where you've got a significant majority in the House and in Congress and in the Senate and a Democrat president that'll be pushing through all sorts of policies intended to make sure that Republicans cannot win again. Well, we are communist China at that point. Yeah. Agreed. I remember the first thing that Nancy Pelosi did when Biden got in, HR one was federalized the elections and packed the Supreme Court. They want to federalize the elections, packed the Supreme Court. They'll also recognize 10 million, 20, 50 million illegal aliens, make them citizens. There's no way to get out. I understand that people are upset with Trump or angry at the Trump administration, however you want to phrase it. The things that the Democrats want to do, I don't think the American voting public is cognizant of the actual things that they're looking to do because the Democrats will do to the federal government what they've done in California, which is essentially block out any kind of opposition party. You'll have the Republicans looked at as maybe a regional party, but the real actual contest is going to be who gets nominated by the Democrats and the primaries. The thing is real quick. Sorry. Don't forget what you're going to say. I want to address a comment. One of our discord members, gone false, says, but they are stupid, Tim. I want to clarify something for this audience and for our members. You're all smart and I genuinely mean it. The average person isn't stupid. You're smarter than they are and that's not an insult to the average person. Average is average. That's the normal degree of intelligence. I also want to stress that there are people out there who are not stupid. They just don't have the time to focus on what we focus on. There's a guy out there who's a tradesman and he works 40 hours and he comes home and he wants to hang out for a few hours of his kids, watch TV with his wife, have a nice meal and go to bed. He does not have time to be immersed in politics. That man is not stupid. There are stupid people. My point is this. I like, you know, I'll jokingly say like, ah, man, Americans, the man, they can be so stupid, blah, blah, blah. Know the reality is you guys are focused on these things. You're paying attention to the world because you are above average to a small, from a small degree to a great degree. Just don't forget, just because you're smarter than average doesn't mean the average person is stupid. That's all I wanted to say. Yeah. And stupidity and ignorance are not the same thing. Not knowing doesn't mean that you are unable to learn it and sometimes very smart people are, anyway, what I was going to talk about was communist China because you guys said you're fear that if the Democrats get in power, we might be seeing. But like the Trump administration, I just put up the numbers has bought 36 companies, used government funds to buy percentages of government, the Chinese Communist Party is known for buying companies. It owns 51% of its corporations. 36 companies in the last few years, as of October 15th, the Trump administration has used US tax dollars to buy and socialize, which is the, as we know, the first step towards economy. Or it's, what's the difference at this point like I'm just, Ian, let me give you a hand. We're a mixed economy, meaning elements of these things do exist with the United States. We're not a free market. Lots of fair capital. It's very rare for the government to invest in it by private companies like they have been. Oh, heavy metals companies, chips companies. I mean, it's not rare, though. Or a mixed economy means we're 50/50. That's what a mixed economy is. We have social programs, welfare, high taxes, but we are not a, so if, so understand that when it comes to economics, communism, socialism, or I should say socialism economically to capitalism, are gradients. You can be a capitalist country with some social programs and still be a capitalist country. You can be a socialist company with capitalist mechanisms, but the issue is the gradient. If overwhelmingly the government controls the stake and the means of production, we'd call you socialist, the United States is called a mixed economy because it splits somewhat 50/50. I pulled it up, it says historically, it's very unusual for the US government to buy ownership stakes and dozens of private companies during normal economic conditions. I will admit we're not in a normal economic time right now. So it is an eyebrow. Like during wartime, I mean, Pat, you ran over stock for a while. Would it have been out of the, out of the pale for the government to come in and buy 10% of your company? Would have been out of the pale to do that. However, there are national security reasons that they're stepping in and saying, gee, we have to revive our rare earth's industry. We have to invest in companies to bring chip manufacturing into the US. We can't leave it in Taiwan. So for national security reasons, the government can stay, it does have history of stepping up like a World War II. It made some big investments in companies so they could accelerate and it was companies that they needed for national security reasons. So that's why Trump's doing that right now. I, yeah, it's worth noting that the Chinese Communist Party, the way that they, they own part of companies, isn't by buying a stock or percentage of stock. It's a different thing. China, China, the Chinese state directly owns a significant portion of China's corporate sector through state-owned enterprises and they exert control over not only private companies through indirect mechanisms. So it's not the same thing as the US buying stock of a company in order to prop the company up. They don't sit on the board, like the federal government in the US doesn't sit on the board. They don't have the right to tell the CEO how they have to run the business or whatever. It's essentially the government would say that it's an investment in companies that are important to the United States. China actually directs the way that these companies work. Did you do a lot of business with China? Well, I've lived there in the early '80s. I speak pretty good Chinese and I'm quite familiar with the economy. Do you see a, like a, what's your biggest difference? Where do you see these differences in there? But if you had something also, you're gonna tap on it. Well, I think you're going on the right path. Time on China. There's that, this is what the context that we're operating in is World War Three. There is a Chinese, there was a Chinese general and you can look this up. The secret speech of Cher Hao Tian that he resigned in '03. His retirement speech was leaked and it lays out what their plan is. They've been on a 100-year plan to take us down. And he said in '03, we're going to hit them with America with the buy-weapon, destabilize them. We're going to get the cartels, to get millions of people into the country. There'll be a three-year civil war, rape, pillage, loot, and burn. And when there's nothing left but a carcass, we infiltrate and take over and it becomes new China. That's been in 1993, the Chinese and the Russians made that as a deal. Russia gets Alaska and Western Canada. China gets the US and Eastern Canada. It's all in their national security literature. What we are seeing is I believe a Chinese plan to destabilize and take us down and then occupy us. And as crazy that sounds, read books like unrestricted warfare by a couple Chinese generals with or the 100-year marathon or the secret speech of Cher Hao Tian that lay this plan out. So what we are living through is that Chinese is a communist version. And their plan is to exterminate everyone by the way. Other than 20 million whites, they keep alive slaves for five years. And that's in the Chinese national security literature. So I feel like we're all sort of rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic, not to understand in that context. And in that context, although I'm a total Milton Friedman guy. And but when you talk, Milton Friedman might not have understood national security exactly. And there are times where the Department of Defense or the intelligence community needs to make investments to get companies stood up and producing something faster than the market would do it on its own. - Do you think that's a good idea to right now? What they're doing? - I think it's a good idea to do right now. I don't think in general it should be in the business of picking winners and losers. But there are some key industries we needed to get on shore. One of them was chip manufacturing. Rare Earth. - Same thing with producing pharmaceuticals. Like we shouldn't have to. We shouldn't have to look to China for basic things like antibiotics and that stuff. Anything that we need for national security should be, we can have a market, but have at least the basics. - Even 10 or 20% of the manufacturing here and then that source of the rest. So you always have such capacity. - You know, it's the one race or ethnic group you're allowed to rag on. So I can just say, you know, maybe why people deserve it. And I'm being shocking intentionally. What I mean is, this is a country, the West, founded on people who, what 20% died on the boats coming to colonize to conquer this country. These are people who colonized and conquered a landmast to a great degree. And so we have a tradition of work hard, succeed, take what you must, what be kind, et cetera, et cetera. Today, half of white people are outgroup preferred. Meaning, you know, they hate white people, they hate themselves. China doesn't have this, that China is racially supremacist, ethically supremacist. So if it is white people being split in half, and I know what I'm gonna hear, I'm gonna hear people say, it's because there's manipulation because China's lying to people, yeah, okay, that's all part of it too. If China was able to go to half of white people and be like burn yourselves and destroy your country, and they went, you got it boss. Well, then that's reality is what's happening. So I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm not saying it should happen. I'm saying, my world view is that you take responsibility for everything that happens to you, even if you didn't do it. This is a lesson I learned from my dad, where I was going to school one day when I was a kid. I was like 14, and there's a train. And so I sit down at the tracks, train took 40 minutes. I get to school late, they give me a tardy, which is like you get a suspension. And so then I got to go to get some time on my dad, and I was like, this is not fair. There was a train, I was sitting there for 40 minutes. And my dad goes, do you know the train tracks there? I was like, yeah. And he goes, okay, so you should have planned ahead for the train tracks being there, instead of blaming other people for you being late. And I think he was right. The point is we know exactly what is and what has been going on. And if our American people and Europe are so weak that they would let China do this to them. Well, then at a certain point, you need to accept responsibility for your own weakness. That being said, I say this with love. What I am saying is Americans wake up, get strong, do the hard work and stop letting China stop all over you. - Paul Merlucky has been prolific in this. He heads Andrew, which is a weapons, AI weapons manufacturing company. I think that's the right way to put it. But he's big on morale, boosting morale that we can defeat China in the long run that we will. Because he's like, yeah, they have an advantage right now. They have a technical advantage because of the way they've industrialized their populace and their setup. But we can still do it. And you need people to believe it. You need crazy people like me that believe we can. Even if we can't, you still need to believe it. Otherwise, there's zero percent chance. - Not only that. - That really means real quick. I guess you're going to throw this in the mix as well. Why is it okay for you to go online and disparage white people as a racial and ethnic group but literally nobody else? Why do Americans tolerate that this is the system, the culture that we live in? You are going to get stomped into the earth by literally every other country. If your country says you're not allowed to denigrate any racial group, anybody, especially Asians, they're in this as well. But why people are fair game? Okay, that results in one thing. Culturally, why people are bad. Everyone else is good. - Well, the results in a lot of people saying, you know what, I'm not going to play by those games again or by those rules anymore. - I mean, sooner or later, you might get right with Donald Trump pushing back on China. The question is, can Trump survive politically? I mean, I guess technically, literally, considering they tried to kill him several times. - Well, it seems like the China hawks are really asserting themselves in the GOP long term. I mean, I think this Iran conflict the Middle Eastern, I think that's kind of the last bastion of the older generations in the GOP, the Neocons, who are Israel-centric, et cetera. It seems like this newer gen. I mean, you look at guys in the Pentagon like Elbridge Colby. I mean, these are like serious China hawks and I think as time goes on in the GOP, the consensus will sort of calcify around an anti-China posture and probably leave Israel out of the equation. - To be specific, too, when I brought up Palmer Lucky and what he was saying about China, beating China does not mean destroying China or invading them or militarily fighting them, it doesn't. It means being able to destroy them and choosing not to. That's where we're headed right now. That's what we need to do. One of those things that Palmer Lucky talks about a lot that I totally agree with him is during World War II, we converted a lot of our existing industry to making products for the war effort. And nowadays, all of our technology, which is all of our advantage over other countries, it's all very, very proprietary. You know, the parts can't be made everywhere and he's one of the things that he talks about with Andral is he wants to be able to build weapons that are functional and that work well, but that you can quickly match. produce and he mentioned the store probably doesn't even exist anymore. He's like, but with parts that you could go down to Radio Shack and get. And so it's simple things that are in already being produced and used those kind of things in the weapons that he's making. So that way you can ramp up production because off the shelf. Yeah, off the shelf. Because the current situation is we do have an advantage over China, but we run out of munitions. I think the forecast is like an eight days. And one of the things a Palmer like you said, he's like, what about the 80th day? What about the 800th day? You want to be able to sustain a conflict. And even if even if you the conflict never arises, your enemies knowing that you can do that is a turn. I mean, so the other day we got we got stink bugs out here in Del Marva and the DC area. You guys have seen the stink bugs everywhere. One of my windshield earlier today. You went offline once they hit the freeway. Thank you. They're funny. You know, I remember I was recording a year or so ago, a couple of years ago, I talked about it. And after I finished recording, I looked up and there was a stink bug and it was going like this. And I was like, yeah, it's bad for me. Stink bugs are harmless, but they are a major annoyance. So my buddy of the day, I had like a hundred stink bugs crawling all over the place just because they're relentless. And I'm vacuuming them up. And he was like, man, like, where do these things come from? You know, he doesn't know. He doesn't pay attention to politics. Because nobody else going on the world. And I said, brother, they're from China. These are these are Chinese stink bugs. The brown, marmorated stink. Yes. Excuse me. They came from China. And he was like, wow, so like what? We just bought some from China. And I was like, no, I think China did on purpose. I've been sick. Anyway, he's like, why? Why would he left? He's like, oh, okay. They sent stink bugs on purpose. And I was like, yes, because it destroys our economy. And then he left. And he was like, oh, right. And I was like, oh, I mean this seriously. Let me explain how much time that I just spend vacuuming up stink bugs that have been crawling through the windows 10 minutes. I do that what two or three times per day, 30 minutes of productivity lost for a single individual because I'm getting up and going, I got to get rid of these stink bugs. Now, of course, to an individual, it's completely meaningless. But China is not looking at individuals. They're saying how much economic damage can we cause? So I'll put it like this. Every day a dude walks up and flicks your ear. It's annoying. But you tolerate it. Eventually, you're frustrated, you're angry. It's been happening all the time. You don't like it. It's cost time. You add a thousand death by a thousand cuts. That's what I think. I think the lantern flies are destroying trees. We've got so many invasive species from China that are destroying plant life in the Appalachian area, the wine berries. They're delicious, but they're aggressive in the destroy other plants. So they're considered. It's illegal to transport them. These stink bugs, they reproduce. They have no predators. And if it takes a single person, five minutes per day to deal with, multiply that economic output drain. China has been thinking about all of these things, all of these things. So don't just look at the stink bugs. Look at all of the little things where we get jammed up, add them together and ask yourself what our economic output has been reduced by because of these actions. China's looking at it like a gimme blackjack. The casino has a 0.5% edge. And you're probably thinking the average person goes, it's basically 50, 50. What's 0.5%? And the casino goes, you're right. Every hand is 50, 50 for the most part between you and me. But we're playing 50,000 hands per hour. And that 0.5% is keeping the lights on. That's what China is thinking. They're treating it like if we give ourselves a 0.1% edge and the US tolerates the minus 1% disadvantage from something as dumb as stink bugs, we win and on it. And also compounds, you get 0.1%. And then but then later you 0.1% of the new number and then you do 0.1% of the new number. So you get this, this escalating. And the point is the United States will not declare war against China because stink bugs arrived on cargo ships. I'd like to pile on that point 30 years ago, two Chinese kernels wrote a book called unrestricted warfare. The thesis of which was Americans only understand warfare when it gets kinetic, when there's bullets flying and such. But actually there's all these levels to warfare that we Chinese understand. And from diplomatic to economic and financial, civilizational, you know, through Hollywood and things like that. And we're going to, we're going to, it's in our interest, not to let it kinetic with the United States, but to fight them on all these different levels, stripped there. And what you're talking about, they do all kinds of research on introducing, yeah, the government has caught Chinese people releasing pests, various kinds of pests in our Midwest. Do you remember when people were getting mailed bags of seeds from China? Yeah, it happened to us. A weird package from China. It's got seeds in it and we're like, what is going on? And then everyone was posting online. What are these weird seeds that I'm receiving? And one of the theories was they were not illegal, but they were aggressive species. And if you plant them, it'll start destroying the surrounding plant life, likely in active war. The idea that someone got some strange bag. Oh, I think I'll plant these. Oh, I know. There's got to be, I mean, I can visualize that version right now. What if they're just flowers? So here's the thing about wine berries. They're everywhere out here and they're delicious. Wineberry season, you ever see a wine berry? They look just like raspberries, but they're a little bit more resilient. They look like a little, a little tougher on the outside, but still squishy and delicious and sweet. They kill all the surrounding plants and suck up all the water and destroy them. Most people go, oh, but they're so good. They're so delicious. It's illegal to transport wine berry seeds, wineberry plant because they destroy everything around them. So think about it. You get mailed some seeds and it says wild Chinese raspberry and you're like, ooh, that sounds fun. You plant one plant 10 years later, all the trees are dead, the natural fruits dead. Ecosystem is completely disrupted. Local animals now no longer have access to certain kind of nuts or whatever they may have been eaten. There you go. It would have got me with that too. If I got it, I was like, oh, well, I mean, your average person's going to, if they get seeds if they're interested in plants, they'll think, what harm can this do? I'll plant them and see, you know, what is it? What is this? I'm curious. And it seems innocuous enough, you know? The opium, this is an extension of the opium wars basically since the 1850s when the British went into China from the east and poisoned them with opium and they did it multiple times to, I think, two opium wars of 10 years each. So the Chinese never forgot that and now they're giving it back to the British Empire through the American. That's the opium border stuff. So the question is exactly the fentanyl coming through Mexico. So the question though is like, I don't want a hot war in China. I don't really want to launch pests on them and destroy them with a chemical war either. I don't want to. If you guys are listening, I don't want to do that to you. So how do we win this war without destroying them? Do we just have to be better? Is it just you just have to be better? You have to be the best. Everyone else will follow. There's an I'm sorry. You go ahead. I was going to say you're not. Some people just want to watch the world burn. This idea that the poor criminal only committed the crime because he was hurting. No, China wants you dead. They want to destroy the United States. They want global hegemonic power. There's no negotiating with that. The good news is we've actually the apogee of their power relative to us was actually 2020. And we knew that back since about 2005 that from a population and an economic point of view, the best time for them to strike was going to be 2020. And I think they did. I think the red election was Chinese hands were behind it. So their populations declining. They're in a real population upside down, wedding cake kind of problem. And also their economy probably reached on a on a purchasing power parity reached 75% of ours. And it tipped. And now it's shrinking versus ours. So we actually if all we have to do at this point is I'd say kind of rope a dope or keep enough pressure on and not fall, time will take care of them. Their economic problems are more severe than ours. Their financial leverage is more severe than ours. We just have to not lose. And that means sticking to our principles and keeping ourselves together. And we do not have to engage them in a hot war time. We'll take care of them if we can just hold ourselves together with our economy. Do you see like an evolution of the economy away from money into power data electricity ability to move a payload. That's how Elon Musk described it. Yeah, I've seen that he says that. I think that the it is funny. The thing that distinguished so many jobs is intelligence intelligence is now using 200 years ago before we had chemical power having a physically strong person gave you and it made you a better blacksmith than the other guy. After we had chemical power harness that industrial power that stopped mattering so much intelligence is going to personal intelligence is going to matter less and less because of AI. I think that the we need to we need to not be subverted and not forget our principles and and time will take care of China if we just but we don't want to get in a hot war. But doing things like taking in the the chip manufacturing industry from Taiwan, which required government investment to do things like that actually are part of that program. Regarding like staying true to our principles I thought on the drive over here like is what's going to happen is like is AI going to learn like don't cast your pearls before swine Christian. You know like don't give these idiot humans what they want if they're bad people and it will select amongst us the Christians and like and what I mean by that is the virtuous like is it now the time to like extort. you and just stick to the virtue, be so the AI can train off of it. I worry about that AI clearly has biases built in, woke biases built in. Have you seen these tests where they put the political compass, AI tests? Yes. They're all left libertarian, anti-Christian, anti-white, you know? It's for GROC. Yeah, except for GROC. GROC is moderate, libertarian, libertarian center. Well, it's truth. It's truth seeking. Yeah. I think that new terms of service where they're like you can't be cruel to the AI because it's training is like they're forcing you to be kind or at least to not be malicious. And the reason, the reason for that is people think it's like they're treating the AI like it's alive. No, they don't want the output to be, they don't want the output of the AI to be as mean as the input. That's why they're saying stop being mean to it because it's training it to be mean to the customers. What I will say is last night, I was talking with my brother about how Pokemon is basically cock fighting for kids. And I've loved Pokemon since I was a little kid. I remember when the show first came out, I bought it on Game Boy. And I think I got a older, I was kind of like, it's kind of weird that the story of Pokemon is a 10 year old. He like turns 10 and they're like, well, son, you're 10 years old, time to start cock fighting. That's, that's Pokemon. And then you like go off into the world and travel around by yourself and fight animals. And so I told him to use AI to make a version of Pokemon, that's just roosters. And he did, and it took I think like 10 minutes and he sent me the app and it's literally Pokemon red and blue, but there's only roosters in the game. And so I'm just walking around with a bunch of roosters and a kid comes up and he's like, hey, you've got roosters? Let's battle. And then you're like, you have a cock fight in the middle of the street. And I'm like, it's a, it's a joke about the point of Pokemon. But as I'm sitting there and I'm doing all of this, I loaded up Legend of Zelda, linked to the past, told Claude decompile the game and recompile it and give link new abilities. And it was like, sure thing, brother. And I was like, you know, let's make a sequel and it was like, yep, done. And it took like an hour to reconstruct the game. I'm just like, the people don't understand. And I can't convey to them and they don't care. So we did it. And AI analysis of all of our shows, AI performs poorly. No one cares. And I'm sitting there being like Adobe just got cloned. The entire Adobe suite is now for free. So there's art craft, there's a film craft that like, it's called like, I forgot what the whole suite is called ever craft or something. But I'm like, there's an open source clone of Adobe Premiere for free. Adobe corporation is going to evaporate overnight. They have absolutely no means of surviving right now, except for the fact that major corporations that are spending stupid amounts of money for their subscriptions, don't know it's free now. Now, don't get me wrong. Adobe is iterating and updating and improving, but it won't matter. If you can get a free version that's half as good, that speaks light years. What is happening over the past few months and what we are watching? We are at the, we like, here's the curve of AI and we're here and it's just going straight up. I don't know how we have an economy in six months because I'm going to give a shout out to my friend George Alex Opelus and I say this with love, but dude is going off about how AI is fake and it's worthless and it's bad. I'm going to say it like it is, George, I'm not saying it's to be mean to you because you're a good dude and you make great art. You, you lose society has determined what you do is no longer valuable. If I don't know, George is one of the best meme comic book and just generally comic book artists. He makes incredible and hilarious art so much. We love it so much. We bought prints of it and we put it up on our studio and we still have them around. We got to bring them here. I said in a post of the day, graphic design is over, video editing is over, the Adobe suite programming. It's all over. It's all going to be one program that is exponentially improving itself. I went into Claude. I filmed myself raw straight up to a camera with no graphics. Up the file in and said, make a video. It added all the graphics, motion graphics. It transcribed it and it just literally edited the whole thing, cut out dead air, cut out errors, added images and references and it took, you know, I did a short and five minutes. I loaded it and said, make a one minute long video, five minutes. It was done. Here you go. And I'm like, why would I hire a video producer at this point? If Claude can just do it instantly, no questions asked. George is saying he said, you know, wiping my ass is worth 50,000 times more than any individual piece of AI slot a person can produce. It's just not reality. So what we're seeing right now in this is in the data, graphic design backfill ended. So this is graphic designers retiring or leaving the industry. Companies are not rehiring, contracting in graphic design particularly ended a long time ago. He would say, I need a flyer for my business and they would say, hey, we'll give you a hundred bucks to make a flyer for my company. Now I got a $20 chat GPT subscription. I just click go. It's good enough. It's not as good as a graphic designer would have done, but it's good enough and it costs me nothing. We are going to see in the next six months, I can't even begin to describe how insane it is from running a business. Let me say it like this two years ago, we're going, we need to find video producers and editors. This is so hard. Today we're saying, why would we hire them? Claude does it like that faster 24 hours, no days off. So now all of a sudden, we were trying to find people to fill roles. We just kind of forgot. We just kind of forgot we wanted to hire for this because now if I want to make my short films, I go on seed dance and click a few buttons in 20 minutes, I've got my two minute, little mini, mini film. This is, I really believe we are in the apocalypse right now in that relation. Yeah. I mean, the Greek definition of apocolipses to remove apocolipses the veil. I mean, the code being revealed is the apocalypse, Adobe's first, next will be Microsoft, like Microsoft, you know, executives coming out saying, we got to slow down AI because their code is about to get open source. Yep. Everybody's about to get open source. I mean, maybe literally everybody. So this is why I'm concerned about what the economy actually means, economic moya means like to take care of the home. So we don't need money to have an economy and we just need data to be moved and information and matter to be moved to the right place at the right time. That's musk has been saying Adobe is a $95 billion corporation that has no product. I would say, I'm going to say that one more time, Adobe is a $95 billion corporation with no product. The entire Adobe suite is free online right now, decompiled by AI, clean room, reconstruction. What will they do? They're going to have to go to the government and say, do you understand what's going to happen? If we go tits up overnight, the US economy losing this one corporation is a nuclear bomb going off. They're going to have to go to the government and say, you've got to ban this. You've got to stop people from using these free versions, but Ian, you made a great point. Why do all the big tech guys all of a sudden say we got to slow this down? Every single Microsoft program is about to be free online. Understand what it means for all of these ultra off Bill Gates, AI could kill a billion people. Yes. Before it does that, people are going to load every single Microsoft program, decompilate, clean room, reconstruction, and now every operating system, every program is free. The problem with going to the government and asking them to slow down is, yo, if the US stops the Chinese will do it anyway. The apocalypse is on us now. There's no changing it. It's being revealed in front of our faces. And we actually have a chance to fix it and to make it to guide it into the next phase of the economy. You know, currency if the word means electricity, there's a currency running through an electrical wire. There's a currency. When you hold a dollar in it, it's the same word. There's a reason for that when you can just go to an AI agent and say, this is the result I want. You don't have to know how to code or know anything about any of the programs that we're even talking about. You're just going to say to the agent, I want to do this when I can you do this and do this and do that. And it just does it for you. I go to chat GPT. I got the high program right now, I'm paying $500 a month, use Astra Ultra. I go so hard. I design design design all day. I'll go through 80% of my weekly allowance in like 10 hours, 15 hours. They'll refill me to full because we are America because we have the electrical input, the power to generate this mass output. We don't have enough. No, it's because it's basically, it's basically Sam Olman saying, you know what, I'm going to reward you because we're America and I can. This is why we have to dominate the world. What? We don't make enough electricity. We literally are doing it to power the data centers right now and we can make more. But if we were to Ethiopia, we wouldn't have access to the chat GPT. They wouldn't be refilling my account. They're able to because the power and I mean electrical power literally. We are so far behind what we need to be for electrical production compared to China to satisfy the demands that, I mean, why do you think Musk is looking to put, you know, GPUs in space because he has unlimited access, so yeah, he has unlimited access. We do not produce nearly enough power. We need more power. Yeah, I agree with you. We will thrive with more power, but we are also probably the most powerful country on the planet. You're not talking about electrical production because China actually produces more energy than we do now. Yeah, it's a big power as a general term because explosive force, you know, economic work. I want to just say something to you guys Adobe generates roughly 96 to 97% of its revenue from subscriptions in fiscal 2025. total revenue was 23.77 billion. Digital Media Creative Cloud products, just Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere Pro, After Effects, Related Tools, plus Document Cloud, was the largest piece at 17.65 billion. Right now, every single piece of software in the Adobe Suite was cloned Cleanroom Rebuild with new code, free. It's free. Every single corporation, every single dollar into that $17 billion could evaporate overnight. This is why I bought a new computer. This is why I was saying I got a new computer for this as we're building out the new studio and told me get this AI computer, super high-end, and really, really great. And I was like, I need to be able to edit videos. So I did a search, and I was like, the issue is I really hate logging into Adobe because I don't want you to have, so I got a bunch of computers for me. Like, if I'm working in West Virginia or Maryland or whatever, I hate having to log out and log back in all the time. So we have our subscription for Adobe. And I was like, I just need like a simple program right now for quick little edits, like if I need to trim a second out of a video, I don't need to make a movie, I don't need to log in Adobe. I thought a program called Filmcraft, and I took a look at it. And it said that it was a great video editor, and I opened it up, and I was like, this is identical to Premiere. And I saw these videos online, where people were explaining that somebody decompiled the entire Adobe suite and told AI to rebuild it from scratch with new code, and it did. And now a $17 billion revenue program suite is free. What will Adobe do? This is going to rapidly expand like a virus. There's so many companies in the same situation. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And software is a service. It used to be if sales force is over. Yeah, sales force. It's insane. This is this is a quarter or more. How much what percent of the economy is going to be all this software? Next year, all of these people will have no income. I I want to stress this to a hammer. Everything looks like an ale. I've worked in media my whole life editing skateboard videos of my friends as a kid, making websites, flash animation, video games, to then getting a job working at, you know, in my 20s, with various media outlets producing things. And I have seen software every step of the way, the importance of it. So when I wake up one day and I'm told, Hey, you know, every corporation has to pay this massive subscription fee for all these programs. That doesn't exist anymore. It's all free now. It was like it was like literally watching a nuclear bomb detonate over a major city. I was like, that's why people make the argument that there's only going to be like one or two companies. Because you'll have, it'll be your, you know, you'll have your your market for which AI you want to use. But software as a service and just generally software is going to go away. That's the reason I was saying that like once you have an AI in your phone that's functional apps are going to go away. Why are you going to do that? You're going to tell your AI, Hey, I need to do this. And the AI will just contact whoever it is that your trip, whatever service you're trying to buy. I need to get, you know, I need to buy tickets. They'll go directly to Delta. I need to buy, you know, I need to plan a trip. It'll plan the whole trip. It'll get you the room that you need. It'll get you a car. All of this stuff will be done not through apps. But the AI itself will do you all make all the connection. Every company needs to do is build a CLI. It's a command line input. You need to make a CLI for your company so that Claude can download and install your CLI. So like Delta, I should be able to download Delta CLI so that Claude can talk to Delta in the background on the CLI. So I don't need to go to Delta's website. I mean, everybody with the CLI will have that's their input for all the adding you're adding. You're adding an extra step because Delta's already got a website and Claude can go to the website. Yeah, requires that's top control and all these inputs. The CLI is the most basic easy way to connect the internet in the background. You want to know what I've heard from everybody is what when I say things like why would you so it's called the art craft suite where someone cloned and Adobe for free. And I first of all, people, well, the issue is that we've got a lot of our project files are already in our in Adobe. So we don't want to switch. And I'm like, if you're talking about spending, you know, what 10 plus thousand a year or whatever you do on the suite, depending on the size of your firm, even more if it's bigger and you've got hundreds of employees, I'm telling you right now, sooner or later, some old person, some kind of guy's going to come in and they're going to be like, I don't care if it's going to take you 48 hours of hard labor to convert and rebuild these files. You're doing it because once we do, we drop that expense forever. But hold on, that's just Adobe. I work in media. I'm looking at Adobe. You mentioned Microsoft every how much longer until someone decompiles Windows and creates Windows free. Oh, I know they already did it. I don't know. Yep. Well, there's Linux, which is, but you know, and it's funny because apples basically inverse took you and X and then slapped a brand on it and sold it for money. But Linux, I like a bunch too. I like Linux and all that, but it is unique and it is harder to use. Someone's going to decompile and rebuild from scratch Windows and then make an operating system for free. And they'll build a run all the same programs. Also, I think you can open like PSDs in the craft. You can open PSDs. If you want to fact, I've heard this. I looked at it, but it said it will not open them. Oh, really? I never tried. I watched a video so it could, but yeah, I don't know. You've got mathematicians are crying because their whole artistic, the hero age of mathematics, where you had like a math that you could revere. That's gone. It's industrializing like chemistry now. So they're crying because Derna also was freaking out because all their patents are about to get lit up and opened. So I was talking to this physicist, this is a physicist like 20 years ago. And we are talking about why science is so hard to change, like Galileo, right? And he was like, here's the thing. They keep slapping new dimensions on the uniform. They are tempted to unify theory, string theory, M theory, because they can't explain some things. So imagine you've spent 30 years of your life working on a math problem only to find out it was wasted because the math problem was wrong. You are going to be particularly angry at anybody who dares tell you that 30 years of your life was wasted. Yeah, dude, I picked up. Oh, now it's the Toroid universe. I'm gonna finish the point that you go first. Point that was trying to make. We had an article where it said that mathematicians started crying because there was like, for example, a guy who's working on a math problem for for five years. And then open a goes, oh, we solved that in a week. And then he's like, but everything my entire life, everything I was doing every day, I woke up gone in an instant. I had a buddy and maybe let me ask you this question, Patrick. What age did you become as you describe wealthy? Made I was about 31. I've made a million dollars, a million and a half dollars. I had a buddy who said that he became a millionaire at 16 in tech. And he said that one thing that he experienced was a depression almost right away. And that most of the people he knew who got wealthy really quickly experienced an existential crisis because they solved a problem. And when the problem was solved, they did not have a problem to solve anymore. And they were sitting there and they were like, I don't care about the money. Like every day I woke up and I was working on this thing. And then one day we solved it. And then I didn't know what to do with myself. Getting a PhD is like that. People think their life's going to be a lot better afterwards. And it feels exactly the same. And it's quite a crash. You you reach that there's a musician. I had a friend, a friend of mine and actually Phil could be able to speak to this. But I had a friend in Seattle who was friends of the famous musician. And they said that after his record exploded and he became like platinum and made a stupid amount of money. He got super depressed. And what happened was he was working really, really hard every day. He'd go to work like recording and making music. Now he's got, you know, 30 million dollars in the bank. They're kind of in a holding pattern on their next few albums. And so he's just they were like, he calls me up and he's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, I'm at work. And he's like, you want to hang out? It's like, I can't. I'm at work. And they go, all right. So they end up sitting around all day walking around having an existential crisis, not knowing what to do. It's the adrenaline dump. I mean, boxers, this is well demonstrated in boxing is the first few days after a fight. Like, you need to keep an eye on the boxer because it's called the adrenaline dump. When you're building up to this event, you know, for months. And in many cases, event culminates adrenaline's at all time highs. Your hormones are completely out of whack after the fight. So they like a lot of boxers. They have to have a guys on them at all times to make sure they don't do something crazy because they're going to be so depressed because of that. I've said it a billion times adrenaline. Just like Lindsey Clancy was with postpartum depression. They were like seeing the end of what I would, I guess, called the in the research industrial complex where people are getting paid to research stuff. Like, you don't need to figure out what you were looking to figure out and then start trying to figure something else out. It's happening so fast. Now, it doesn't make sense to pay people to sit around and try and figure stuff out anymore. I'm paying attention to you. I mean, when I jokingly said, a month after GTA 6 comes out, we'll have GTA 7. I was wrong. The day GTA 6 comes out, we will have GTA 7. So to be fair, decompiling game of that size probably will take about 48 hours of compute for an average person, like a person who has high end, clawed and astronaut stuff, loading it up and decompiling it. If they split the game into chunks and then have and then have multiple agents decompilate, it can be done in a few hours probably. The estimates I've seen though for a game like GTA is like, yeah, it's going to take maybe 48 hours of total work time. Once it's decompiled, it can be immediately reconstructed. And so you can have GTA 7 reasonably within a week. But with like GTA and other big games like 2K, Madden, etc., the big component of it's the multiplayer so you need to rebuild the servers as well. - Well, no, no, but I'm not talking about human interaction. - No, but I'm talking about-- - You need to put rocks on a business. You need to also recreate-- - I'm not talking about a business. I'm saying it took them 15 years to make GTA 6. It'll take them a week to make it to the 7. So people, I'll put it like this. I go to somebody I know outside of this room obviously. People who are not in politics and I say, the economy is going to implode in six to 10 months. And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm just sitting here being like, the stuff that we've started doing with AI as layman is having me panic. I had the AI, like I mentioned this earlier, I recorded myself talking for 12 minutes. I uploaded it to Claude and said, I gotta leave, make a video for 'em. I need it for Saturday. When I came back, it finished all the visuals and the components and I was like, that would have taken me two hours. So now I got a video going up on Saturday where it put all the visuals for a little mini duck I made. 'Cause I'm gonna, I was like, I wanna put videos on the weekends, but I'm busy. I got family done. Don't need to hire anybody anymore. - Sir, you won't even need you. You'll just be able to tell it. - This is what's pissing me off. It can't clone my voice. I keep, I have been trying to clone my voice. Joe Rogan, no problem. Jordan Peterson, Dave Rubin, easy. - You got a train. - You're cool. It takes like two hours. You got to train it. You'll have to do what you do as you can. - Just stop, please. - What? I'm doing it literally right now. - I'm stopping you because I am offended by what you are saying. - You can train. - To imply that I have not tried every possible thing to clone my voice. - Yeah, but have you run like a training bot program on the guy in your computer and then sat there for 140 lines of you saying a word, sentence after sentence after sentence. And then done it again and again and again. 'Cause you need like five different training mechanisms and it's using all your YouTube videos. - What do you put to open? - I have, I have 10 years of six hours a day of me talking. That's what's messing it up. - Not, it's too much information. - Ian, I'm gonna, bro. So, okay, here's what's-- - Here's what you attribute this to, Tim. I believe you. What do you attribute it to? You can't, you're clone. - I have a few hypotheses. When I talk, I do things intentionally like. I say, we've got the boys here. I'll throw in a random accent. So, to naturally grab how Tim Poole does a show requires a random Trump. Sometimes things it cannot do. It can't just be me. But I do think I honestly don't know why it cannot get my enunciation. It can sort of grab the pitch, but it makes this thing that talks like this and it's very rigid. And Ian, what I need to say to you, I have done so many times. Every, I've tried 30 seconds, clean. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. Unique New York, how now brown, how fail. I've loaded in a two hour of me just talking, saying, today here's the news. I have intentionally searched for videos where I was talking low because my throat was hurting, so I was doing the show just like this. And I talk this way, every time dozens of attempts, it fails every single time. - Think about all the training open AI has done on the internet, all the voices, like we've done a drop of their ocean. - I understand, Ian, my point is, I can take 30 seconds of Joe Rogan and it gets Joe Rogan. I can take 30 seconds of Jordan Peterson and it's Jordan Peterson. I can take 30 seconds of Trump and it's Trump. And every time I've attempted to do me, it does not work. - Are you working on a local model or are you working on like 11 labs or something? - 11 labs. - I'm talking about local model training. If you own your own model that's on your home computer and you're just training it in a vacuum, you can teach it specific things. - We are not at the point where it can do the character replication of Tim Poole. - Yeah, it takes a lot of training, I think. I don't know, I'm still training my mom. - Imagine if it really could capture the essence of how I tell stories. And then here's another example actually. So I went to a year ago, tried having, I had a 11 labs take a script for a ghost story and then it cannot tell a ghost story. You cannot get VO to do ghost stories right now. Because it can't voice act. It can do really dumb things like commercials and it's got various types of cadences and things like that so you can get, so what I said, I want an old man to tell the story about the haunted house. And it really just could not tell a story. So what I did was I recorded myself and then said, skin my voice with this old man. That worked because I voice acted it. So I went and clawed and I said, here's a script. I written no recordings and I said, make it. It sucked miserably bad because it can't voice act. So if you want to do a commercial as Joe Rogan, something short, you can get it. If you want to get a two hour Joe Rogan podcast, you're going to miss Joe Rogan's emotion. It can't get that right now. But it would be, and it's terrifying when, and maybe in a few months, we get to the point where voice replication can grab emotion at the right points. Like imagine if 11 labs knew that when it was like, hey, in this style of Tim Poole, and it's me going, so Donald Trump came out today and he had a crazy thing to add on the latest story about Katie Sacra saying, you can't come out of my girl. And like it knows just to start doing a Tim Poole Trump impersonation. When we get there, it's over because what's going to happen is not necessarily me, but let me tell you this, there's a high profile, right leaning personality who told me two years ago they had 3D scanned their body and done voice training to create an AI version of themselves. And I wouldn't be surprised if the videos they put out of them talking actually are at this point. 'Cause they said that was their intention. - I think that's actually a reasonable way to make money in the future in this economy. The shifting economy is sell your persona via AI to people that want to download it. - Now you make a fake one. - What do you mean? - You can make a, so if you load up all of the various podcasters into the AI and say, why is this person watched? The computer, the AI is going to be like, oh, look at these things that he does. Okay, combine them and give me a big titty young woman. Done. - Oh, you think you can. - No, Rogan's oh. - No, Rogan. - I mean, that might work for like the 500,000 people that have a Wikipedia page, but like the average person that doesn't have an online persona that doesn't have something they're selling or a personality that they're selling does them no good. - So one of the theories that I've talked about people in media is that we're gonna enter an age of, no, there will be no more opportunity for a user, a random person to become famous. So the idea is back when the radio waves are getting utilized, everybody's just doing whatever they want. So that means if you've got the means, you can set up a broadcast tower and tell all your friends, hey, I got a tower. If you get this radio, I can sell you one. You can hear me from across the way. So one of my one people start making radio stations, eventually the government intervenes and says, we got too much going on. You got to allocate the public airways by auction, by bid, that means now a regular person can't just do radio, it's pirate, it's illegal. It's not so much going to be illegal, what's going to happen is, you know, I've got a collective 13 or 14 million followers across all platforms, which means if I put out a video, I can make a brand new channel right now. Here's a good example. The Tim Pool show is 100,000 subs. However, we cross post all the shows to 6.5 million subs. So I do a brand new podcast and we're hitting on average 600,000 views per episode. Just because we're placed algorithmically, people know my name much, much smaller than where say, Bill O'Reilly, Bill Mar, or whoever, you know, Joel Rogan have been. But if every single person on the planet can produce the same content, what advantage does anyone have to get in and make a prominent show? They don't because I can do the same as them. How will a regular person compete with Tim Pool having all these followers? So with our algorithmic access where it is, you're not going to be able to break in anymore and one theory hypothesis is that the future is going to be, the latter has been pulled up. Technology has granted you the ability to make a show, but it won't matter 'cause nobody wants to watch a new face. You can't call the-- - Unless their genetics are superior, I have a feeling that the AI is going to start selecting algorithmically the people with the best genetics to promote. - I don't know what that means. - The new show will be the guy that's just like a genetic fucking stunner. - It was a girl. - It was a girl, people. - Just pretty people. - But why would you-- - Just genetically talented, healthy, smart, advanced, because you mimic each other, you know, so you want to watch what's better. - The reason why I am arguing that's not the case is that if any person anywhere can produce 100 videos per day, so can I. And if I'm already placed in the algorithm, it doesn't matter who you are or what you do, you can't break. There's a million people producing a million videos per day. I post a video, YouTube shares it with millions of people. You post a video, they share it with no one. And you're competing with a million other people. That's why the hypothesis, you will not be able to break through, even if you're an AI-generated-- - Is that a bad thing or a good thing? - I don't know. Just a thing. - What maybe humans go about returning to social relationships without trying to be famous, without trying to be streaming from a crosswalk in Tokyo. - Right, only fans have gone. I'm so happy for only fans to be over. - Is it, is it going to be-- - So here's the thing, who's going to be the next? going to be better at selling porn to guys, a team of men running a business who are AI generating women or a single woman. This is why already the top female top only fans have managers and have staff that send messages. So if you no longer need the female's body, you can just AI generate whatever you want, then the women are not going to be able to run these only fans. You might get a business woman doing it on me wrong. I'm just saying the actual only fan model being famous. Maybe AI. Fake people. I want to pull up, I want to pull up this video and go back to politics. This video is very, very, I can't make any big of this unfortunately, but we're going to play it and we're going to talk about boomers versus zoomers and why I think boomers are in trouble. Hey, I saw the sign. I would like to apply. Welcome. As starter, you will receive a car and a three bedroom house in the suburbs. Sorry, but we couldn't make it a four bedroom. I hope you're okay with that. I'll manage. So I saw you moved into the neighborhood. I'd like you to marry my daughter Anne. She will cook and clean and raise a happy family with you. Sure. So I see that you did two masters and two internships, but we are actually looking for someone with four masters and ten years of experience. Maybe if you do a little dance for us, we can give you a try out. What? So what kind of work do you do? Oh, I do only fans. You're not one of those men who can't handle a female entrepreneur like that now are you? Same with the men who care about body counts, such losers. Sorry, we're kicking you out. But who will come in my place? Oh, some refugees. Good luck. Hey, get up, kid. You need to pay my social security. Yo, I've never seen more effective anti boomer propaganda than that last bit. Where they say get up and pay my social security because we saw the polling 85% of boomers think Gen Z should be taxed more to pay their bills. Yo, if I was a zoomer, I would be I'd probably be, let me say it like this. I don't like communist. I don't like socialists, but you better damn well believe if I was like 24, I would be the most famous communist in the country. And I would have millions of followers. And we would overthrow the political machine to enact communism only for the purpose of burning it all down because of that. Yeah, there's that's the mode, the majority of people that are communist, they have the ulterior motive of destroying the United States. They're revolutionary. They think the system that we live in is terrible and unfair and unjust. And you know, to be honest with you, there are there are unfair things in our, you know, in the system that we live in. And so, you know, what, what impulse do they have to buy in? They don't own property. They don't have prospects for, you know, improving their life. And they've got a ton of propaganda telling them that things are not going to get better and blaming it on both boomers and the rich. So they have no reason to think, Oh, I can make this my life better. I like just the idea that boomers, whether they succeeded or not, had the opportunity and are now all saying, you should pay more in taxes for me. I, bro, if I was a zoomer, man, I'd be, I'd be an, I'd be an auntie for Tate. There's a common denominator to a lot of these problems like that, which is that I'm at the end of the, I'm on the cusp of boomer and whatever came after boomer. And that we basically lived above our means and we, we, we, we, we initially were writing checks on each other's bank accounts. We found ways you could work from 1930s forward to organize political groups, pressure groups, and write checks on other people's bank accounts. About 1980, that had become impossible. Everyone had gotten organized up, old people, old different kinds of people at Oregon. We found a group that we could write checks on that bank account and no one could organize to stop us. It was the group of future human beings. And one way or another, whether you're talking about the environment or social security or our host of problems, we wrote checks on your bank accounts. And then you guys came along. Sorry about that, but it was my, I was one of the ones fighting it. The only people fighting it were the Milton Friedman guys, the libertarian saying we should stop writing checks on the bank accounts of the future and keep government small. But the more government gotten in that business, the common denominator of these problems is that the boomer generation wrote a bunch of checks on your bank accounts. By that, do you mean that they printed money? That or the, the social security system is itself like a life insurance company that's not being run or a pension company, not being run on actual really sound cables. I would abolish it day one. If I was emperor and there's ways through this and it does require you got to handle the transition. So you don't cause huge human suffering, but evolution. And the reason why is there, I've heard people say things like, well, what if we say boomers in the last generation to get it? I'm like, yeah, you're saying Gen Z has to pay more and then get nothing. We can't do that. And I'll, I'll be damned if I'm part of a society or a country that says we're going to sacrifice the young for the benefit of the old. So the problem is right now, Jen's millennials are buying their first homes at 40 already a problem that our economy is to the benefit of the elderly. But part of that is, you know, there was a Federal Reserve, I think St. Louis came out a few months ago with a study, the illegal immigrant population in America is adding 30% to the cost of buying a home, 20% to the cost of rent or maybe have that backwards. So that's part of the problem. And the reason they and Trump even said before he wanted to keep prices up because boomers are the strongest voting block and they own on average, boomers 70, I want to make sure I say it correctly, 75% of boomers own a home and many own multiple homes. So if you're a boomer and you own three houses, you don't want their value going down. So you're voting for keeping it propped up, which means mass migration to the detriment of Gen Z. Yeah, I think, I think socialism's kind of inevitable in the West. I mean, you look in France right now with all these riots going on. You're getting a glimpse of what this is going to look like, right? So you have, let's just say, let's speak about American demographics. It's probably pretty similar to France at this point. You know, half of zoomers are non-white. So you can already take the majority of those people are going to have some sort of grievance or grudge against white older white people. That's just obvious. It's baked and there's no sense denying that. Then with the half of zoomers that are white, half of them are full-blown socialists. At least, at least half of them are full-blown socialists. And we're seeing the same thing in France right now where at least half of these white zoomers are also socialists. They're also out there marching. You look at the math. I mean, 75% of zoomers, first of all, I don't see their politics changing unless the environment around them changes. It's inevitable at a point probably in the 2030s or 2040s when boomers start dying off and losing their voting power. You're probably going to see really if the left doesn't get into power before that you're going to see some heavy redistribution as policies. And the Tim's point, I mean, if the right's not taking it seriously, it is what it is. It's going to happen there. I don't think they're taking it seriously. That last bit where the boomers walk up and laugh and say, "Get up. You got to pay my social security." Republicans have no answer because even Trump is like, "No, we're not going to touch social security. We're going to protect it." The funny thing is every Democrat coming out and being like, "It's a good thing. It's a good thing." Yeah, it's a good thing that it's going to be at 70% by 2032 and insolvent by 2038. Zoomers and millennials aren't going to get it. Boomers are saying tax the youth more so we get free stuff. And they're ordered the wealthiest group. The pay are average net worth of 1.6 million. Democrats are saying they want to expand it to other age groups. They talk about universities in Compur or they want to talk about Medicare for all or single-payer health care. That is going to only exacerbate the clear and present danger of the social security. And AOC came out and complained about college law and says indentured servitude. What is social security? It's just crazy. It's a completely indefensible system. The system by and large, not just social security, but pretty much in every aspect of Western life, life and the West. I'm speaking Europe and the United States and Australia for that matter. It's wealth transfers from the young to the old. If you were to structure a system that makes sense, what's the most important time of someone's life? Zero to four. Let's all put on hats of social programs. You have to build a social program. You'd probably be like, well, let's say zero to four would probably be the most essential time to provide some sort of income from the state. I don't think the end of your life is really that important. I'm not that kind of libertarian. In fact, Milton Friedman had an answer to all of this. Milton Friedman's answer was, it's two things. You have to do both of them. A flat tax, coupled to UBI. And we're going to have our social programs going to bankrupt the US. At some point, there's a financial catastrophe. What we need to do, I believe, is, or the Austrian perspective is you introduce a new currency. Probably this one you make sound like tied to gold. or a basket of assets, you run like France did for a couple of years in the early 90s where you've got the French Frank and you've got the euro. And you introduce the other currency, all these social programs are going to Chernobyl in the US dollar. You let it Chernobyl, but in the new currency introduced with a flat tax and a UBI, and that's how as AI and robotics sucks up all the jobs, there's got to be some mechanism to share that large S with society, otherwise there's two ways we can go about it. And one is the way that I think the left wants to do, Biden and Obama wanted to do, was it's now there's a business model that basically 5% of humanity can escape with all the benefits and learnings and technology of 3000 years. And what they need to do is set up an authoritarian structure so you can starve off the other 95% and you create a Hunger Games world for 5 to 10, 15 years, and that was to me the great reset that was Klaus Schwab and the WF plan. The other way to do it is to find some way to share all the benefit of this AI and robotics and that's UBI and flat tax. UBI makes no sense. How do you how do you generate more output than the input? Well, on UBI, what do you mean? How do you just what are people going to buy with the money they receive? Let's let's let's try like a local restaurant. So the first problems of let's start with non AI UBI. I'll ask you this question. How many people do you know play guitar? Few. Quite a bit. Most people do, right? I was in most people, but I'm saying, I'm saying most people know someone who plays. Right. Of the people that you know play guitar, how many of them do you think are good enough to professionally? One, one. To the other ones who play guitar if they were offered to play professionally, do you think they would take that job? Yes, I think so. It's a general question culturally, but it tends to be true. Everybody's got some kind of hobby or something they would like to do, but they're not particularly good at. Most people play music. If you want to them and said, would you like to make a living playing music versus working at the post office? They would say done. So what happens when you go to the person and say, we're going to give you a basic level of income that sustains you. What do you want to do with your time? I'm going to play guitar. Well, we don't need a guitar player. We need some jobs to be filled. The issue is this, a society cannot function when you have a percentage of people giving free access to economic output from people required to produce. That's just it. But if you have UBI has to be universal, everybody gets the same UBI. So that doesn't change the fact that there's going to be. So we're going to work and have higher income and they'll be able to command more. Have you heard the old urban legend about the high school teacher and the socialist grading system? Let me tell you the story. I don't know if it's sure or not, but the story goes that high school teacher was explaining capitalism and socialism to their students, to his or her students, and said, what we're going to do is to explain output in socialist systems. We're going to average all test scores and give everyone the same grade. So test comes this week. Everybody takes the test. The kids who worked really hard and were smart should have gotten a pluses. They got bees because their average was brought down. The kids who got bees didn't care. I got to be what everything changed. And the kids who were failing were laughing because they got bees and they normally got season D's. Well, the kids who got a's got pissed and said, well, what's the point of fighting for an A? If a B is all I'm going to get anyway. So the next week, the average score was a D because the A students stopped working because they were like, I can't be the best. I can't get an A. The B students didn't care. And they got bees. But the failing students were like, I don't got to do anything. I'm going to get a B anyway. The next week, everyone failed because you were demanding of someone more output than they could put in. So the people who were putting in the extra said, I don't get anything back from this and the people who don't do anything get more output. It doesn't make sense to create a system. It doesn't, it doesn't mathematically align that you can go to a guy and say, we absolutely must have a farmer. We've automated most jobs, but not farming or about this. We've not automated plumbing. We need plumbers. So everyone's going to get let's say $5,000 a month UBI. But you can make extra money if you be a plumber. Most people when asked and presented with this problem, say the same thing. My time is worth more than being a plumber. If I can make enough money to get by, I'm satisfied. I won't take the job. In which case, the cost of being a plumber starts skyrocketing to accommodate for UBI. And now you have a few people who are like, well, give you a million dollars a year to be a plumber. The system doesn't make sense. It doesn't function. Unfortunately, humans require some kind of stress and conflict to function. So this idea that here's here, every time this, these problems are presented, they don't make sense. A good example is, hey, we've put kiosks in Taco Bell. We don't need employees because robots can make the tacos. Okay. Who's going to buy the tacos? They say, it's fine because we can replace when when we don't have the birth rates to replace low skill workers, we'll get robots to do it. Yeah. You're going to get robots to buy the tacos too. Okay. If no one is working at the Taco Bell to make the minimum wage, who's going to shop at Taco Bell? Nobody because nobody has the money to do it. Then you say, okay, we'll hold on. Let's give everybody UBI. Then they can go to Taco Bell paid for by robots. So the cost of the robots are low. But if we're giving money to people for free, if we're taking 30% of the costs of the revenue from the Taco Bell to give to the people dispersed evenly, how will they have enough to generate more than 100? It doesn't make sense. The math doesn't add up. How do you generate more revenue from the restaurant to give to people for free? Someone's the math on UBI doesn't add up. You need an input of some sort. It could be just electricity. You need some some way to balance the withdraw of the money from the system. And I think putting electricity in is the most sensical way to do it. Like, I don't know if it means solar panels on every house and everyone that hosts a solar panel gets the robots. The investment has to happen. The initial investments of the solar panels and the robots has to be not initial. Even if you have one person still having to work at Taco Bell to oversee it. Or we get to the point where AI rapidly accelerates so fast that there's no economy anymore at all. Who would open a Taco Bell? The government. So techno communism. If you come to me and say, you can't make money off only a Taco Bell, I said, then I won't. Or how about this? You don't need to make money anymore because of UBI. Why would I open a Taco Bell? Then there's no Taco Bell. The math and the philosophy on UBI literally does not make sense. The value of the market is the amount of labor put. Okay. It's a lot to break down. The amount of work that we're doing today is a fraction of the amount of work people had to do 100 years ago to survive. But we're still doing something in exchange for something. To run a Taco Bell, you still say it's not about how hard or easy it is. It's about how much time I have to invest in this. And if I have to invest in being the sole employee of Taco Bell, I need to make a certain amount of money. If everybody is getting UBI, it means your food and shelter is taken care of and you can do literally anything else you want. Why would anyone do work? Because the UBI is just at a basic subsistence level and somebody might say, gee, the value of being a plumber, I'm not going to wait till it reaches a million dollars a year. It's up to 400,000. I'm going to go be a plumber and things balance without before they make sense for someone of the mindset of, I work because I want more. But as we've art, the question of the guitar playing is that most people would say, I'd do nothing. In which case, would you work at Taco Bell for $100,000 an hour? Yeah. You would do it. Well, if I might want to do more than just play the guitar and nobody would, nobody would listen. There will be some, here's the problem that we, I think you have 90, 95 percent of the workforce gets eliminated over the next five or 10 years through AI and robotics. So either we have a system that is a authoritarian and they just sort of get locked out and starved out, hungry, or you have some way of spreading the benefit. One of the challenges we have right now is that a lot of jobs don't need to exist but have existed for the purpose of the economy. And this is what we saw with Obamacare when one of the arguments as to why we don't streamline and eliminate a lot of the problems, you know, why don't we do like a universal healthcare system? It's because healthcare administration is 20 percent of our economy. We need there to be a reason that people trade for value. Otherwise, we could have eliminated a lot of these useless jobs a long time ago. Why doesn't the health insurance companies do that then? Because they're profit maximizing. If they can, where the hospital can eliminate those jobs and maximize the profit, why aren't they doing it? I wonder if, you know, why the government bailed out the auto industry, why there are special rules put in place that insurance companies have to do certain things and can't do other things. And I think the answer is the people who have access to power and are ultra wealthy are like, tell me what to do so I can keep running this system and be rich. And the government's like, don't change anything because these people have to have the jobs. So they could implement change like another, another, another, a really Please example is Texas. Why do H&R blocking? Jackson, who would exist, we could have automated tax preparation 20 years ago. It's 2% of and it sucks up 2% of GDP, the just the act of tax preparation. Because we don't want to blow up the economy overnight and people have to work to exchange value because you cannot have a country where half the people literally do nothing and the other half have to work until we eliminate 100% of jobs. You either need some slave labor or people have to keep working otherwise perception of fairness. So if there are people who don't have to work, mid-level people who are like, you know, I'm a B plus student, I'm a mid-level manager, I try my best. I'll never be a CEO or a founder. You come to them and say, you know, that guy outside gets a free hotel and doesn't have to work. What are they going to do? They're going to say, I quit. I'd rather have my time and less money than work so they can live off my back. That's what UBI just does not make sense until we get Star Trek replicators. And there is no requirement for any labor. I mean, even then the problem is in Star Trek, they had property and they owned property. So there's still a I have value over you. Like, don't you think we're pretty close between AI and robotics of having Star Trek replicators to a certain degree, but again, there's still property and IP and things like that. And the problem is there's going to be this, this gap that I think we're already seeing where someone says, look, from where I am to where you are to being wealthy and having more is so far. I'd rather just hang out on my friend's farm and smell the flowers. Some people, but if you want to have a wife, you got to, you got to earn not if you have UBI. You can't host a family of 200 bucks a month or 200 bucks a month. We're talking to this garbage. No one said 200 can't host a family off of the bare minimum. And it would be a sick family if you tried. So you need a point of universal basic income is to cover those costs, not family. Yes. I mean, maybe if everybody in the family is getting it, you might be able to get on that. I'm talking about if it's five and you got 10 K want to thrive. If you really want a healthy family, you need to work. It's there will always be men that go out there and just pause again and say the argument we're having about UBI is that your basics are covered 100%. That includes a man gets 5K on gets 5K. The family has 10 K per month. The problem is I'm thinking much more modest than that that may be for adults. You don't do it for children. That and it's be more like 2,000 2,500 a month is where this would start. And the idea is like our current way of redistributing wealth and providing a social safety net is actually creates great economic incentives to break up the family. And we've learned over the last 60 years. That's really bad things happen when you break up families. So you want to create a UBI that basically any two adults can get together, live, survive and maybe even raise two kids on that. And but if you want more than that, you're going to be working. Yeah. I don't see what the solution is then. The alternative solution for if AI and robotics are going to eliminate 90% of jobs, I eliminate 90% of people or do you create some safety? I don't know if one of my favorite lines you ever see the movie snatch. Yeah. When the dude's like, don't drink milk. It's out of sync with evolution. And the the point is, I don't know that he will do a matrix quote. In the matrix Smith says that we gave humans paradise and they rejected it. Humans need conflict. If we we are built for physical labor, if you don't get it, we die. So we created we created physical labor facsimiles gyms. So we can go and pretend to do the physical labor that we needed to survive. I don't know if humans can survive being purpose built for a world that doesn't have purpose. I think you'll see political conflict. I think when you get UBI, you have ideological war. Well, set aside UBI then, let's just talk about the world as it is. How do you handle the idea that over maybe four years, 90% of jobs aren't going to be necessary? I think that's the case. And I don't know that you can have a society. So for one, humans can adapt. But the rate of change we're seeing with an robotics is terrifying. I don't know how you have a society where there's a guy who has to be a farmer who turns on the TV and see illegal immigrants getting free housing. And he's sitting here being like, I wake up right my back every single day. And that guy in New York, I quit. I don't know man. I'm going to go live in New York for free. I wake up every morning and look around at kids that were born to rich parents. And I just deal with it. Like I just got to do better myself. You know, there's always going to be people out there that are wealthier than you that have it easier than you have a rising socialist faction because of what you're describing. And they're violent. And they kill people. I'm not advocating to get rid of. I'm not saying you are saying in a world where the average working class Joe who still needs to exist because only 49% of jobs were eliminated sees refugees and other people getting free money off of his tax dollars. He waits up every day and he makes a birdhouse. And then a guy walks in and buys it from him with money he got from the government out of his tax dollars. He's going to say, why don't I be them? Why am I the one sucker having to work? I'd rather get paid less, but get to relax and not stress. I don't think that's the human condition. People aren't built to sit around. They really they're made to create. Correct. And what happens? See, and again, I stress this. I stress this. Don't project. What do we see when people don't have to work? What are the these people who go out antifa with guns and bricks and starting fires? They don't have jobs. How are they when we see a society? Advanced the point where you don't need to work to survive. People pick up guns and bricks and smash and kill. Well, that's one thing they do. Are you familiar with that famous experiment with the mice? The rat utopia experiment. Hey, stop breeding. They become gay. They insult. They start grooming themselves. Then they rip each other's shreds. Their gums bleed and they die. The mother's kill their baby. It's called behavioral sink. Right. It's a when you don't have resistance. Every living trees need resistance. Otherwise, they fall over. Humans need resistance. You call it conflict earlier. It's a type of a type of resistance is conflict. Yeah. Yeah. And purpose. I think that look, we're really close to matter replication. What they're doing is certain by smashing particles together is they're creating Hadrons, which is a state of of cork where it can become a proton or honestly, it can become an electron. You can you can take electrons and turn them into protons. That is matter replicate. That is taking electricity and turning it into matter. So that is like happening. That's what a hadron. Hadrons are versatile. Three cork formations. I might be bastardizing some of this, but the math is to do anything like that. I don't know. Hey, I speed up so fast. Sorry, you're sick. No, the singular. I agree with the in the singularity. I'm familiar with the singularity concept. We're in it right now. It's happening. The sick two months ago, my brother is coding games, vibe coding games through Claude and and GPT. And then Astra and Fable come out. And now you can snap your fingers. That was about a month ago. I was like, I did four years of coding over a weekend. We're already past that point. Actually, now in one month, we are beyond where I was 100 X they're taking one model, one AI model I heard and they're just training it just on what's happening at the sun. It doesn't all it sees is particle collisions and it's learning how particles function. Two months ago, they had thousands of AI models trying to solve a single math problem and it cost millions of dollars at open AI. They solved the problem. What was it last week or a week ago, one agent solved 200 and contributed to another 100 plus the rate of acceleration and AI. It's the it's it's happening. It is happening. Okay, I'm going to say it again. A month ago, I go, wow, I did four years of coding in two days. The game is still not done. It's being refined. And I'm already going, I give up because now you can take an existing game, decompile the code, ingest it into the AI and say, uses to build any game you want. What advice do you then give to your millennial or zoomer viewers? Get out of cities. Exactly. The two or three acres get a cow. Cow is one having cattle and get two or three acres and get settled down. So you're you've maximized your worst case outcome. If you get get to subsistence farming, you start living in the Walten's. Here's why I say get out of cities. It is possible to build a system with some kind of universal income, but it can't happen overnight and requires generations of change. Humans do not do well without something to do. Idle hands are the devil's probably idle hands. The devil's playground, right? What we're watching right now is far left extremists with no purpose, fire bombing, shooting, shooting up Tesla, all this crazy stuff, fighting ice. They don't know why they don't understand politics. They're listless and purposeless. So they've replaced the work with ideology. And there's no there's no way to get ahead. There's no way they're they've got the student debt and the houses are expensive. There's no. No mountain. Humans want status. Women want status with the best man or among their peers and men want to accomplish. If you take away success and replace it with uniformity through automation, people are going to go insane. More importantly, Adobe is about to dissolve. I'm not suggesting anyone I mean, I got to be honest. I I'm going to talk to my financial experts about shorts on Adobe right now because their principle revenue stream is a software that is free. It reminds me of that scene from Ironman where Jim Kramer goes stark industries. That's a weapons manufacturer that doesn't make weapons. And I'm looking at Adobe right now. This is software company that sells software that you can download for free. I'm like, what happens to all of those employees in six months? When you start seeing all the corporations come in for their quarterly one assessment or Q1 assessment and they're like, hey, we can shave $50,000 per quarter by eliminating our Adobe subscription and shifting the art craft suite. I think there's a lot of people will be focused on damage control, which is kind of how we're going talking about UBI. And then a large large amount of people will be focused on creating the next phase, which is matter replication or matter fabrication. And I think with matter fabrication, the upside and the white pill is that the most valuable commodity on the planet. What is it? Everybody? Anybody? Don't say it. Ask the question one more time. What do you think is the most valuable commodity on the planet? And I'll tell you what it is. Anti-matter. It's water. Water is the most valuable commodity on the planet. People are afraid Nestle is buying it up. It's going to be the easiest thing to fabricate. No, it's hydrogen mixed with the oxygen. Anti-matter. The most valuable thing. The most valuable thing on the planet is water. Anti-matter. Okay. Okay, maybe, maybe somewhere. But to humans right now, the most valuable thing on earth is water. It's the most valuable commodity. Pass each other. It's the amount of commodity. It's the amount of commodity you can buy and store. It's water. So being able to fabricate water with particle collisions is really, really valuable. That one might reduce poverty to zero if people have access to clean water. Crossman. If we can fabricate clean water on the spot for people with particle collisions, water is not going to stop poverty. I think it's the basis for ending poverty is fresh water for everybody. If we can get clean water, it's just been such a problem, you know, to get there's only certain parts of the world. You can just get water from the air. Yeah, there's only certain parts of the world where water is is like you can literally dig a hole in this water. Sometimes and sometimes you can get it from the air, but you need a lot of electricity. And you need a lot of electricity for all this stuff. You don't need a lot of electricity. We get it from the air everywhere. It just depends on how high you want to go. So I'm white-pilled on like on not all dying as a human race for the I think, you know, I think that so people started decompiling video games and then a guy made a video where he was like, and then someone asked me, why don't you just decompile software? So here we go. The entire Adobe suite's now free. And I'm like, Microsoft is next. You name it. Everything you can make any app you want. I know. It's not even threatening. I'm just saying get ready. We need to do it. You cannot for the change. The reason I say get out of the cities is because what happens when you have a guy who's 40, he's got three kids and Adobe goes to him and says, I'm sorry, I'll revenue drop to zero overnight. I wish I let you go. We can't even pay you a severance. And he goes, how do I eat? Good luck. You get 30 million people on unemployment overnight. The system doesn't have the money. Pat, if we're going to get bricks through Windows theft robbery, they're going to ransack farms and steal your check. How much by your estimation do we have in the like if we were just to go on a printing rampage to present a UBI thing in the next two years to slow. How much debt do you think we could take on? I don't I don't think you do it in US dollars. You create a new currency that is gold backed and the dollar is going to turn oval anyway. And you run out your liabilities that the government has in the dollar. You pay your social security. All these things keep those promises, but those are going to become overtime worthless and you move your economic activity into this new currency. I do I do want to bring and including the social safety net. And it's much it's a much more modest UBI is what I'm talking about. It's something that's subsistence that people still have a reason to go work. It's not luxury. You're right. If you pay a UBI of $70,000 a year or more, most people just aren't going to work. Are you familiar with the book called One Second After? Yes. Right up your alley. That's I think that you're right. And you know that was that was a CIA that was a national security planning exercise that they discovered what it looks like when society collapses and they they classified it all up. This was 2005 and they told the CIA read a novel to teach what we learned and that novel comes right into that. I have I have a thought on this one. So so let's say we are like, okay, we're going to go UBI. Everyone's going to get $5,000 a month and based on current levels. It's not great, but it's good. You can pay your rent. You have food. We don't expect you to, you know, be an investor. Anything with this money. So what we end up seeing with automation is that the guy who owns the Taco Bell franchise, he gets rid of all the employees and robots make the tacos and he asks, he asks, let's say that this actually works and they say we're going to tax you at 30% from all the revenue generated so that we can disperse them among the people so they can buy the tacos. The first problem I bring up is taxing 30% of the revenue to fund 100% of the purchases is impossible. But let's just say hypothetically, you find a math solution to that problem because the individuals who aren't working. So like basically they have to find value elsewhere and bring to Taco Bell so that the revenue generated is 120% of the costs required. But if you're caught, if you're, if you're, if your funding is only 30%, the ideas were stripping it from all of the businesses and then directing them in in mean and market means to better businesses. Okay, let's just hypothetically say that works. The end result is there's going to be a very small amount of ultra wealthy individuals. At the same time, these people are saying billionaires shouldn't exist. So you can't have a political system of ideolog saying no wealth, communism, but also only a few individuals who want to work to make more are the ones who should. You might have like smart contract corporations that are just AI's like Taco Bell could become an AI and then it's not trying to make money. It's just trying to serve you. Again, the question is if you have a business and you say we're going to tax 30% of the revenue generated to fund 100% of the input, how does that make sense? Suppose we were talking about a modest and UBI of $2,500 and there's something for healthcare built into that $30,000 a year is or two people together get $60,000 here. For some people, they are going to form a household and just live off that and play Grand Theft Auto. Others are going to, well, I think you do something like this fairly modestly as a way to absorb the layoffs that are coming and as time goes on, you know, that system will never end. It'll only expand. The only real solution from a mathematic and evolutionary standpoint is the people unwilling to work starve the death. Well, you could also use the data centers to pay people to host data centers in their homes. They just require homeowners, though, because the people that don't, the point is that what I'm trying to avoid is what you're saying, yes, that is just avoided. So the problem with all government systems is that they're immortal and no one on government free money wants to give it up. Social Security is a great example. It is politically impossible to get rid of Social Security despite the fact it's destroying us. So I think we just lived through an administration whose plan was what you just said get authoritarian, authoritarianism in place, and then we're going to starve off. I mean, over time, 80, 90% of people are just going to starve it off. This UBI system can work if your people are moral and industrious. But if you have any, so if you, if your population is 3% lay about, well, you know, you can tolerate it. If your population is 7% lay about, you're getting frustrated. If your population is 70% lay about the other 30% they're going to burn everything down. But that's even without UBI. That's a correct. So you may accelerate to my point. We've gone way over and I apologize to the members for not getting everything through. But I'm just, I thought it was fun. And you know, we had a good time in the new studio. It's our first night here. So I want to respect everyone's time. Smash the like button, share the show, follow me on x and Instagram @timcast. Final thoughts you want to shout anything out or say anything before you wrap up. Great congratulations on your new studio. And I'm thanks for having me on. Absolutely. Where can people find you? X is the best place these days. It's Patrick Burnett at Twitter X. Good conversation, man. I got you. Yeah, let's let's you're far out there. You're thinking you're over the horizon. Let's go out. You're over the horizon. Bring it back in and we'll cross paths again. I thought I was revolutionary with you with UBI. You're talking about CERN and matter, make a manufacturing water. Yeah, I think that's like step three after your step two. We'll be okay. Good to see you again. You guys as well. Nice studio. Thanks everybody for hosting. Thanks to everybody running tech over there. Got Andrew and Carter up in it. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Ian. Hey, man. You never have to apologize to me, dude. Catch me at Ian Crossing. I'll see you later. Take brown camera pointing at you over there. Yes. It is right right here. I still got to get it. I still got to get it like dialed in and when these speakers are mounted, I'll be more part of the conversation. But I can't I can't even see Patrick right now. But yeah, we just getting everything going first day. It's been it's been a pleasure. I'm Carter Banks and you can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere. And I'm going to go to Tate now. Yeah, X and Instagram at Real Tate Brown and yes, shout out to Carter, shout out to Andrew, Patriot Andrew makes you follow him on Twitter. So it's A underscore minks, right? Yeah. It's M-I-N-G-S-T. Shout out to Kellyn at Kellyn PDL. These guys have been busting their tails to get the studio ready. They had a obviously we have a great team here. I just don't know who wants to get named on on camera. That would probably be bad if I start like doxing people. But uh, those three of those. Hey, they forget somebody and they're like, dude. Yeah, I open up. I that's probably other people I'm forgetting. But these are the three of them. We've got to shout out Mark. - Oh, Mark is a very nice suit on today. - The mark is kind of the engine room of Tim Kass. So he's a very beautiful man on this suit on. - That's everybody. There's no one else important who should be named, so you named literally everybody, and there's no one we forgot. - All right, that's it. (laughs) - Now I'm like being gassed. - Oh, I got the camera on you, man. - You are. - I'm just the people that are in the room, or that are basically in the room as well, I'm sorry. - You don't wanna get jumped after the show. I know what you've got it to chuck. - Oh, well yeah, chuck, well chuck's not here. He's not in the room. - It was. - Yeah, Chuck, he's in the house. - Chuck's in the house. - He's in the house. - He's our bean counter, so shout-out to the bean counter. Who else? - He greeted me with a thing. - Shout-out to the security guards. - Whole production crew, everybody involves putting this together. The set's beautiful, by the way, you guys. - My mom and guards, who keep you from me. - My mom and dad are awesome. - It's the liberal economic order for providing this opportunity to talk shit to our government. Oh, that's the American Constitutionalist. Shout-out to George Washington. - Oh, yeah. - They've been Ellen and Chris, Rich, Bill, and Greg. All right, we should go eat. - Thank you guys very much for doing all the hard work so that we can come and put on the show every day at IRL. I am Philip Remains on Twix. I'm Philip Remains on Patreon. You can check out the stuff that are right there. You can check out the band, all that remains on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora YouTube Spotify, and Deezer. And if you are in the Orlando area, all that remains will be playing the warp tour in Orlando on November 11th. It's a Sunday. Come on out, it'll be great. Don't forget, the left lane is for crime. - Thanks for hanging out, everybody. Welcome to the new studio. We actually have another one 'cause we're building the Tim Poole studio and it's gonna be awesome. Election night party, two and a half weeks, is gonna be insane. The people that are showing up, it's gonna be wild. I think half the people don't like the other half. They've got a lot of people who have beef and it's gonna be good. We're gonna be live all day. Here at the studio, plus we have a, like this room is just one studio in the big studio. So it's gonna be epic. Thanks for hanging out, guys. Have fun this weekend. We got, I got a show up tomorrow on the TimKest channel. And then the Tim Poole show will be on Sunday, and we'll see you then. That's a wrap. - Go ahead, I know. - Members on the call and show. - The left lane? (upbeat music) (upbeat music)