Where Did the Ultrasound Come From? | BONUS

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She's a member of MEND, Mothers Enduring Neonatal Death. She's an advocate for helping women going through such a devastating time. The blog was originally written in 2014 by a woman named Stormy. We're not going to use her last name here for her privacy. But she later gave a statement to the Maricopa County investigators, where she said she'd started a blog in 2011 to help her cope with grief after she had a stillbirth. She posted about her next two pregnancies on the blog, including a pregnancy she had in 2014. When Stormy went for her first ultrasound, she learned she was having twins. But a few weeks later, one of the fetuses died and was absorbed by the other twin. The blog was about something called Vanishing Twins Syndrome, which actually happens in about 20 to 30% of twin pregnancies. In most cases, the other twin will develop normally, which was true for Stormy. True in Stormy's case. She wrote about it on her blog. And now, several years later, her own story is being used against her because somebody stole the ultrasound off the internet. Members of Dave's audience ultimately found the source of the ultrasound through a reverse image search on Google. And Dave got in touch with Stormy. We reached out as compassionately as you could because we're reopening a wound. We just wanted to help her and we really felt like she should know and maybe find out from us rather than from someone else that she had this stolen. Stormy told Maricopa County investigators that when she saw the ultrasound Laura was using, she immediately recognized it as her own. She said the image holds special significance to her because it's the only physical evidence she has that this second baby existed. It's important to know that because Laura would later steal this lady's story, which I don't need to tell people how offensive that is. We all understand. This lady's put together a mission to help out other mothers because this was such a talk. It was such a tough time period of her life. The blog's since been taken down. Stormy said she didn't know anyone outside of her friends and family had been looking at it. Something I've learned throughout my research for this story is that Dave Neal and his community always want to help out. I just knew my audience wanted to do something good. And a lot of times in cases like this, you have to wait for the court to play out and you really can't do much. And my audience has been known to help fundraise people in the past. And I said, let's just put together a fundraiser. Dave started a GoFundMe for Stormy. We raised a bunch of money. I think we raised probably $6,000. And we just said, go at it, have fun. Dave's community was hoping they could raise enough money for Stormy to throw her son an extra special birthday party or take a family vacation. There's so much collateral damage from this story. There's so many victims. And you watch a story like this and it feels senseless. It feels like you can't do anything. And it was just another instance where the audience almost proves Laura wrong. Like she decided to live in this hostile world. My audience didn't. My audience is in a world of justice, compassion. And we have to just constantly remind each other that even though it's such a tough subject to cover, we can focus on the survivors. We can focus on the victims and not on what might happen to Laura throughout this. Whatever happens to her is a consequence of the truth coming out. Dave and his community have played a huge role in this story. Not only in covering it, but also in supporting those who never wanted to be caught up in it. So with six episodes out, I called Dave to talk about the release of the show. We've spoken so much over the past nine months as I've been reporting on this story. But Dave Neal has been covering it since the news broke about Clayton Eckerd in 2023. I chatted with Dave to talk about the story of the case we've both been consumed by. So what has it been like for you now that six episodes of Love Trapped are out and you've listened to them and you're kind of reliving this as it played out? It's so trippy and surreal. And I'm like on one end, like, you know, like a typical, I don't know, YouTuber or comedian. I'm like judging what I'm saying. Like, did I get that? Did I get that note right? Do I sound unhinged? I'm just trying to communicate my emotions and those emotions. Emotions for this case went from frustration to relief, to vindication, to feeling very defensive of the community. It's definitely surreal. I covered this on like sort of a PhD level where we got so deep into it and you're covering it, telling the story three-dimensionally, not just through my own noggin. And I think that's really, really great to hear all of the different stories of Woodnick the lawyer and Clayton and all of the people that are involved because yeah, everyone's got like a similar through line, but we've all been affected differently. So in episode five, you have a line in that episode and you say, I will make as many videos as it takes to get this thing right. My question for you is, how many videos do you think that is at this point? Oh man, I'd have to guess over 250. I don't know. Did you count? That's a lot. I haven't had time to count. I can totally see how people don't, like YouTubers, they get a bad rap. So it was easy for her and her attorney to paint this picture like I'm just some douchebag, but it's not my first rodeo. I've dealt with this for so long. Like I know, I knew covering it to just try to clean my hands and be as like immaculate as possible. And the one thing that I've learned is just like follow what's interesting to me. 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