⏰ Where 15 Buzzy Players *Should* Go In Drafts

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Kenan Allen signs with the Colts. Nez has been packing his bags and now it's time to find out, Nez, what should his actual ADP be? Right now, 208.5. We know that's going to change. Reveal to us after that swig of true serum where you actually value Kenan Allen. I have him at the 1213 turn right now. 145. Yeah. I'm curious to see what you guys have because I thought about it for a good bit, looked at the rankings, thought about who he could jump, who he has resistance to, and I landed on 145. And anytime that he's available at 150 plus in my slow drafts right now, I click the button still. So curious to see what you guys think. I might. I have to remember what I put. I might have Kenan Allen bull mogged Nez here. Let me see. 135 here. Let's go. What I was doing when we were doing this exercise is I was looking at the actual, you know, kind of the players going around there. And I was like, you know, Shakir, Shahid, and then you go to Denzel Boston for wide receivers. And I'm like, that feels about right. Like, you know, 145, that's right ahead of Jalen Naylor, which I agree with. And then I guess it comes down to, you know, Denzel Boston. Do you flip Boston there with Kenan? That to me was the big like resistance point. It's like, what do you do? Do you take the rookie on like a bad team that's exciting? Or do you take the veteran on a good team? That is boring. And I think that's like the dichotomy there. That's where people will end up diverging. All right, John. John's going to be the Nez about to get double mogged, man. He's getting double mogged, bro. Fake ass, fake ass Kenan Allen bull over here. My, my resistance point was like Debo. Debo and Jalen Coker was kind of like, I like those two in and around there. Shakir, sell me this pen on Shakir. But yeah, I, uh, I thought the reason we were taking him the whole time was because we thought he was going to end up at one 30. So, um, yeah, I don't know. It was kind of fun to wake up to all those, uh, drafts on the 10 hour clock and just tell, have the solver. Tell me Kenan Allen, Kenan Allen, Kenan Allen. And we were just like been saying, motherfucker, we got this. Don't worry. Been saying, man. Been saying. And the funny thing is, is for this, right? Like I'm pretty sure, I mean, we didn't actually clarify, but we're talking like classic best ball ADP. I mean, Eliminator, he's a, he's a much better pick in Eliminator too. No Alec Pierce, probably to start the year, get Kenan with those fresh legs. I mean, I think you could make the case that, you know, he's right up there like around digs or so for, for Eliminator stuff, as far as, especially after those super running back heavy starts. And you're like, I just need those 10, 11 points a game. I mean, Kenan's going to get that for you. He's a reverse Alvin Kamara. Like just different position, same thesis. Give me eight points. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. If you got those Eliminator slows going, I definitely, uh, I, I get greedy, you know, I w I would just go and get it. Cause you don't know if he's going to be there the next time around, you know, starting basically like what you said, Pete, like around like that, um, like that 11th round, you know, like 11, 12 turn. Like that's when I would start to, to feel the heat on, on that. And yeah, you're going to be the only person with expensive Keenan Allen, but it is going to help you get out of your pod. And, you know, these are all one V ones anyways in a limb. So it doesn't the CLV. It's basically, you know, meaningless. All right, let's bounce up to the, oh, go ahead, John. I was just going to ask, did anyone look, uh, this morning on the dragon drop overlords, uh, where they moved Keenan Allen to this morning? Yeah. So I tried not to look before doing this. I tried not to look before doing the, the assignment. I didn't either. Yeah. So they, um, have him try like, no, notably he's behind Boston. Uh, Tyson is like giga nuked. Um, yeah, Shahid and then, uh, Keenan Allen, uh, is, is next in order of wide receiver, there's a pretty big gap between Shahid and Keenan Allen, but Keenan Allen's behind guys like Hunter Henry, Brenton strange, and Daniel Jones for, uh, for ETR Sims are in my head, baby, that, uh, Danny dimes plus Keenan Allen, um, mini stack at like 14, 15 or 13, 14 is going to become super popular now too. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. Definitely. We should do let's, as we bounce around, let's do the Jordan Tyson one, just cause that's also, you know, fresh in everyone's minds. I think the, the timetable right now is, is two months, uh, obviously then you got, you know, the ramp up, you got a rookie getting integrated into the offense, current ADP 71.6. We know this is going to plummet. The question is how much we know underdog drafters are stubborn. We kind of saw it with Kai lemon through his injury stuff. Like didn't actually budge that much. I'm curious here. Maybe John, you want to set us up before your reveal for Jordan Tyson's ADP. Yeah. So the resistance for like falling is always greater than rising, right? Like people will just blindly click Keenan Allen or Marshawn Lloyd, or these guys that move like 50 spots and be like, I want to be first to the punch kind of thing. But like the fallers, as you alluded to, like, man, if his ADP hovers in 71, it's going to take a month to get to 95. Like, you know, people are just going to be in there clicking it, but I don't know. Maybe the information is whatever we talked about this one. The other day though, that Nez and I were talking, uh, almost pre-injury or like pre-practice injury. We were just talking about his injury history and like how he had the big looming PCL and then back to back to back to back hamstrings over the last like five years. Uh, I can't remember the actual number I put them at, but I nuked them in the, Oh my God. That's a nuke. That's a nuke. One 75. That might be dead ass. Dead ass bar. Dead ass red shirt, red shirt. Yuki rookie year is on the table here. Like Christian Watson hamstring. What about Odell Beckham a year where he comes back week six and then scorches the earth? That, I mean, that's the bull case. I would love that. Yeah. I mean, he's never going to sniff this, but this is our true serum take. So that means John, are you, you're just full fade Tyson here on out? Cause you're never going to get him close to this price. I just took him out this morning. Oh my goodness. My goodness. Net Nez. Uh, what did you do with this guy here? We might be, uh, we're definitely more aligned than John here. So I, I, I still see him sort of having that, like you said, Pete, this Odell Beckham timeline just to kind of use a cheap comparison of a guy that, you know, started out on the IR and kind of moves very similarly to Odell in terms of just like flashes off the screen and athleticism that just like really has no choice, but to translate if he's going to be playing football. And then you have under Hill saying that like, you can't overstate how good of a camp Tyson was having. Like they were stoked about this guy. So I think I have an ADP that like, I don't think I could pass on if, if he fell. Yup. Uh, Nez has the one 11 here. So a 39 pig drop. I think that's a nice range and I could see him getting there. That's right at Wanda Robinson. Um, people are going to take golden in worthy. You can see them ahead of him, but then you enter the boring slot receiver tier with Wanda Robinson, you know, uh, Jacoby Myers. I'm a little in between you guys, but definitely closer to Nez. I also don't think he's going to get to my number. The one I was looking at was like Casey Concepcion versus Tyson. And it's like, obviously we like the saints ecosystem a little bit better, but I think I would be staring at that one and being like, do I really want to take Tyson over? Casey Concepcion or could I just get a pretty talented rookie as well? Who's going to get off to a fast start? Who's healthy. Who's having a good camp. That was kind of the resistance for me with, with Tyson. Yeah. Did you have a lot before the, the injury? Either of you guys? Yeah. And I was like taking him over Tate at times and stuff, which, which definitely stings. Like he was the guy in the early sixth, uh, that I was clicking. Yes. Over Parker Washington. Uh, I wish I had that one back now as well. I might have the last laugh. We'll, we'll see, but yeah, good. I had zero until, uh, him and Parker Washington were starting to get steam jobs and I started to capitulate a bit, but I had, I had literally zero cause I was taking like a waddle and Marvin, I guess that waddle never was back that far. I'm trying to think now, uh, I have to look at it in a sec, but I had none until I started taking swings in the scrolls and the bad bros brawl basically. Yeah. He was a great pick. in the Badger's role. - Let's stay with the Colts here. Oh, breaking news. Nuznez, Najee Harris to the Giants. Dude, I mean, everything works out for me so easily. It's just, it's incredible. Dude, Tyro Tracy blows one pass protection. They're like, Najee, get your ass over here, dude. He was such a good sign for them. Like, such a good sign. You really now have like a full trio of different skill sets in that backfield. Najee can do a little bit of everything, you know? I mean, people might be rolling their eyes when they hear me say Najee can do a little bit of everything, but like. Oh, they are. But he can. But he can catch passes. He can pass block. He can get the, you know, hit the success rate number on his runs. So, I think it's great Scataboo insurance. I think they're clearly concerned about Scataboo's play. They're, you know, there's obviously concern about that running back room where you don't sign Najee Harris. The one thing that I will say, though, is like, Harbaugh kind of talked about him pretty negatively. Najee, like, after they tried him out, they're like, he's not 100%. He's not in football shape. So, you know, we'll see. So, he's not like. Doesn't seem like he's totally thrilled with the way he looks right now. Is he draftable for you guys in the 18th? I mean, why not? Because there's nothing else there. But like, what's the ceiling? Then he falls in the end zone like four times. Do you get pass blocking points on this site? I think, yeah, I think the ceiling is like contingent. But the standalone value, I think, is definitely, I think, higher than people think. Because what I'm reading from this, and this is coming from the pro-Najee side, is that they don't want to use Scataboo as much as they were about to. So, where does he lose work is the question. My thought would be, you know, one of the things we do at the end of those drafts, right, is like, we want to get the clear running back twos, not murky RB2, RB3s there. So, like, with guys like Emmett Johnson and Mike Washington and some of these guys emerging as clear handcuffs, I prefer them. But if you want to group him into that, like, Kamani Vidal, Daman Claiborne, like, intriguing RB3 types, I get it. I think my take is, I'd probably hold steady on Scataboo. Like, if he drops a few spots. So, like, late fourths, sure. But to me, this is more like a nuke on Tracy because we were paying a huge premium on Tracy for basically being like, oh, there's injury outs here. Like, if Scataboo, we're getting, like, some standalone plus juice, you were already paying a lot for what was actually probably a true handcuff. And now with this signing, like, Tracy has to get nuked, right? I mean, his ADP is 136. What's the true serum Tracy ADP now? Pro or just in it for fun. The moment you play for Michelob Ultra, everything changes. The focus sharpens. The game gets real. Every point, every move suddenly means something more. Because a superior light beer is on the line. Michelob Ultra. Superior light beer. Enjoy responsibly. Copyright 2026. Anheuser-Busch. Michelob Ultra. Light beer. St. Louis, Missouri. Shave ice. By the beach. Like, would you rather have Lloyd? Straight up. So, like, 165. Not even a blink. We're talking Brian Robinson, man. Like, I'm taking Brian Robinson over him. I mean, he's like, he's like Sean Tucker now, right? Like, 190. Ray Davis, you take over him. Brian Robinson, Mike Washington, Samson, Blue. I want all those guys over him. A sky-blue injury does, like, almost nothing for him. I don't even think I have a single Tracy share in any draft this season. Yeah. I'm nuking him to the shadow realm again. And, hey, let's just say. The reason the shock value on 175 is, like, I'm not saying what his ADP should be or where he goes. It's the truth serum. The people still don't know. They don't understand the assignment of the truth serum every year, Pete. Yes. No, we, this, it wouldn't be fun if we were just all giving out efficient ADPs, which mine definitely skewed toward. Let's do the Marshawn Lloyd one, though, because this is a really fun one. Really good kind of usage just out of preseason. Had 100% of the snaps with the starters. Josh Jacobs is expected to return soon, but you have multiple outs, whether it's the groin injury for Jacobs, whether it's the off-the-field stuff, ever materializes. But at the very least, we now know Marshawn Lloyd, clear RB2, clean handcuff bet. Current ADP 160.5. What did you do here, Nez? One, six, for, for, sorry, is it, are they on the screen right now? Oh, why did that not scroll for me? Um, sorry. Here we go. My bad. There we go. Okay. We're on, we're, we are on, uh, Marshawn Lloyd. Lloyd. Yeah. I think I'm definitely bullish on Lloyd and I have him in like this range of like fellow RB2s that have like their own role. So I put him at 144. That's like where I've been taking him. If I, you know, have room for a running back at that pick, I'm usually done at running back where, when, when I'm taking Lloyd, uh, you know, where I'm drafting. We're at this range, but I've been leaving space open in my lineups more often these days when I draft for like the Marshawn Lloyd pick. Cause I want, I want to make that pick, uh, a lot more. Um, I, I think it's risky of course, with the help, with the hamstring injuries, but we have never seen Marshawn Lloyd and Jacobs play together. And before, you know, you know, back in the day they were talking about Lloyd and Jacobs kind of being a fire and ice thunder and lightning. So I think Lloyd is. He's going to have a pretty strong standalone role and he's going to pop. I think you're going to see a little bit like, uh, like Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams, uh, from the Packers where, you know, when Aaron, when Aaron Jones first, first on the scene, it was like, oh my God, this guy's way more juice. It was obvious right out of the gate. So I could see something like this taking place. So yeah, I'm pretty bullish on Lloyd. All right, John, you went with, Ooh, another spicy one. You, you say you should be going lower. Uh, explain yourself. You're going to lose the chat again on this one. Oh, buddy. This is what I'm here for. I'm, I'm the heel turn of the show. This is what we need. Um, sucked in college was never good in college has been hurt his whole life. Uh, and Josh Jacobs is back at practice today. Josh Jacobs is a do everything, every down plotter, whether you like it or not, they're going to throw a lot this year. They're going to play a lot of 11. There's not going to be two running backs on the field. He's full change of pace and contingent. He's what we thought. Tyrone. Tracy was before not. She signed there. And I still think someone from that Arizona backfield is going to find their way there or Detroit. Wow. Wow. And I, I think I'm what, what Ness? Sorry. Do you think seven yards per attempt is this bad in college? Just, just, just like gut take on your head. Yeah, but that wasn't as okay. That's not like how you quantify him that year. Like he wasn't their lead rusher on that team. He was like a glorified change of pace. Uh, who plays when it's like third and 35 and he gets an inside draw for 11 yards. Like he was bad, man. I didn't like them anyway. So here's I hear, I, this is what I would push back on to like, we, we kind of know, does, does the running back talent even matter? You know, at this point, like if he gets 18 touches, if Jacobs goes down. And so then the question probably John, it's if, if Jacobs did go down or was suspended or whatever, it sounds like you're more of a, Oh, Lloyd gets 12 touches and Chris books gets 18. Touches and they sign a free agent. Like you don't see the upside contingent value. Basically. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm just a smidge ahead of, uh, Nez here. I did one 36.5. I actually looked at the Tyrone Tracy ADP, which was one 36.6. And I said, let me put him a tick ahead of, uh, of Barshad Lloyd here. Um, as basically the premium handcuff. Um, this was obviously before we saw that Jacobs is back to practice. That was kind of an additional out you had to him getting here. But yeah, I, I think this is, I think it's a really strong bet. Um, I'm not really a Chris Brooks believer and I think just everything that the Packers have signaled to us, you know, their actions speak louder than words. They didn't add anyone in the draft. They didn't add anyone in free agency. They've been very careful and intentional with Marshawn Lloyd's rehab and getting him back to full health this off season. So I, I feel pretty confident that the team in the same way, the team's told us, like, we're all in. Even on Matthew Golden, like he might suck, but we're going to make this a thing that seems like they're going to make Marshawn Lloyd a thing as their RB too. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm with you, Pete. Like I, we, we can have our opinions, but they clearly are telling us that they like Marshawn Lloyd because they've given them, this is now like the third strike, you know, and they continue to show uber confidence in him based on the, what they did with the running back room with an aging Josh Jacobs, you know, like Josh Jacobs ain't getting any younger. has this suspension risk or, you know, this, incident whatever you want to call it and they still didn't do anything so i think it's i think that says i think that says a lot all right let's go up let's do one at the tippity top here obviously harder to get kind of big swings um once we're into the second round but malik neighbors obviously a fun one he is now firmly in the second round or not firmly has squeezed in there john you suggested including neighbors here let's get your reveal on malik neighbors he might just be jamar chase here we go now you're back to not being a hater you're the bull 8.0 so does that put him ahead of jefferson and lamb and just after almond raw right i like i think that's like the tier that we could be talking about him next year i think a lot of it's just hinging on whether naggy can have a decent offense or he can still get the target chair and earn the target chair if you think that's sticky from the day ball stuff or if that was just designed like hey just pepper the shit out of this guy um but yeah i think if jackson dart is anywhere half as competent as he was last year and i think neighbors has the ability he i think he's the closest thing we have in this league to jamar chase neighbors let's go burr uh let's see what i did i'm sure i was a little more measured here i went 14.9 so that is just after jefferson it's before aj brown and then i was looking specifically at the running backs where i was like yeah i'll still take barkley ken walker ahead and put him over omari and hampton here in the early second round yep we are aligned pete i think i said like 16 so that was the same exact thought process thinking about that running back tier and essentially just right after that running back tier is is done um take me and then john again this is a thought exercise but uh have you like what target exposure do you have because i do i think neighbors will inch up over the next two to three weeks but i i don't know if they're going to think he what i i think maybe nez's number is a good line could he get to 16.5 do you guys think and if so john how much do you plan to be exposed in round two to him so i think it's contest specific so if you're doing bbm right now i think it's probably a bad exercise to take him at the one-two turn just from like a combo standpoint based on like what was going earlier i think you'd actually be better at pulling up pickens or something like that but that's like agnostic of my stance on the player uh i have 24.8 right now but i don't know like you know where it's been taken kind of thing um yeah i think living between 22 and brock bowers is probably correct um omari and hampton in there if you do like the jonathan taylor in the first round and then just take neighbors in the second round um yeah that's kind of where i would draw the line combo wise in bbm let me also just reset this exercise for the chat here uh someone says no way john is clicking neighbors over cd jet is uh my guess is john isn't either this exercise it's it's similar to there how many players are there in the pool where like i think george kittle is an omega value we'll get to him in a second i'm still trying to get the best price on george kittle in every draft this is john saying if we if he was the adp lord and he set the adps for the big board drafters when it started this is where you would put it at to be an efficient thing but john's gonna play the game to try to win the contest like he said if it's a time box contest he might be a little more aggressive if it's bbm he's gonna be cognizant of mid to late third round neighbors so this exercise isn't where uh we will take them in drafts it's where we would take them if forced to in a one day only contest uh essentially kind of thing yeah um all right let's do who would be a fun one to do here should we do omar cooper who's just sliding like a rock these days yeah definitely that's a good one all right omar cooper here nez uh you want to set us up with uh what you did with this guy yeah so i didn't go as far as this comp but i said that he's like jeremy bernard except he's behind a player that uh isn't isaiah williams although you know no disrespect to the 2025 team mvp of the new york jets isaiah williams but uh yeah i got 180 on on omar cooper that's where i would take him on underdog to to be honest this does have a smidge of bias of like my current bags that i am like desperately trying to uh you know unload and and come off of but honestly though like i think he's like a 180 player right now i mean it's not it's no guarantee he like emerges as you know as a wide receiver too right because like that was really what we were hoping for at first with the first round pick but 80 mitchell completely dusted him and now he's a williams is like there's multiple reports from different people talking about isaiah williams as wide receiver three now it probably won't hold right omar cooper's first round pick but like this isn't good like there's just no way to spin this like if he if he was good we wouldn't have to worry about this so yeah i think i think the fud is warranted yeah um i think i'm pretty close to you 172.8 i was looking at some of these guys like you're obviously taken i mean i'm not going to i was looking at 80 mitchell and it's been very clear that 80 mitchell is ahead of him he's going to play in two wide receiver sets 80 mitchell looked awesome at the end of last year the change of scenery really seemed to do him well he's going to get an upgrade in quarterback play it is really hard to take him over a jacoby lane or 80 mitchell right now i've still was looking at like malik washington i put him in that like pat bryant like speculative wide receiver three who could break out you know kind of thing that was kind of where i settled what about you john uh yeah same with you i think it's going to be a lot of fun i think it's going to be a lot of fun i think you guys nuked it for shock value i have one share i have one share this year so i mean this is probably the lowest uh first round wide receiver has ever been drafted in bbm don't quote me on it but it feels probably like without an injury yeah yeah without an injury like i i don't know but a lot of people also had mixed grades on him coming in like whether he was actually a first round talent as well and then you just have a team that might score what 25 passing touchdowns this year if we're likely and play like 30 offensive snaps a game and he's out there for what 60 of them and they have like a target tree that's going to be like crazy condensed towards uh breeze and barrett wilson i don't know gino looked bad last year no thank you yep um let's do the flip side of it denzel boston who is up a good bit i mean just inching up you know had a really good camp i think brown stench always is going to keep him from being like a total rock at ship um i'll lead here 140.5 i actually went lower and said that this rise feels a little fugazi to me and that i don't know if anything has really changed and how i was really thinking about denzel boston i know he has better draft capital than jacoby lane but it's kind of like the jacoby lane bet on a worse offense and like the jacoby lane stuff is really fun because if he's the wide receiver too there and andrews is cooked and the ravens are thrown a lot like he could have a double digit win so i think that's a good thing i think that's a good thing i think touchdown season in a really good offense like denzel boston stuff it's like man casey's gonna be good fannin's gonna be good the quarterback play is sketchy so this was one where i'm like i get the enthusiasm for boston but i think his adp should more or less be holding pat fully fully aligned on everything he just said watched him a good bit at udub as well like prototypical big body acts it he could be a really good talent we haven't fully seen it yet i mean i'm not gonna hold it against him that he's going to be a really good talent but i think he's going to play his way onto the field with like guys like rome and polk and um mcmillian's in front of him there but yeah same thing man like what is this a four and a half win team with a bad quarterback situation um he's fancy cedric tillman with a different name nez what did you do with our guy denzel boston i think i went boring and i put him exactly where he is right now yeah yeah i think this is like totally fine i think it's a totally fine adp if you want them you can put them in the you can get them a little bit early if you want to fade them you can fade them a little bit i think this is like water has totally found its level here and yeah it's the brown stench on him as well and you know casey uh showed out a little bit in the preseason so now people can people see that but uh yeah i'm i'm very hopeful that denzel boston uh breaks out i'm i'm a pretty big fan of uh of his style of play and how that can translate to the nfl level for for a quarterback so uh yeah i have a good bit of denzel boston i'm gonna keep taking him at this price yeah and to be fair like i'm fine taking the upside swing in that spot for sure like because whatever but it's like he's the exact same profile as tillman with the exact same draft capital he's just the fun rookie name to click on well let's do jacoby lane because that was kind of where i was kind of benchmarking denzel boston jacoby lane's current adp 171.9 definitely one of the biggest risers over the past week i would say outside of parker washington probably the most preseason buzz of any player in the pool i kind of flipped him with denzel boston and i was like let's do the jacoby lane over denzel boston kind of already made my case there uh nez where were you at on lane i was definitely bullish i think i'm right around you uh 149 so yeah i think that's where i feel comfortable taking him he's at first i thought he was just all hype i thought he was all just like one-handed catches in camp but he's actually performing well he played ahead So the team clearly thinks so. can can certainly be trusted in terms of their bullish reports but at the end of the day you know it is still like you know we've we've kind of done this song and dance before with with Ravens uh wide receivers rookie wide receivers but I think Lane has definitely generated more buzz than any rookie wide receiver has in in Baltimore so it's just a matter of like how cooked is Bateman I think because if Bateman can still like do his thing earn his trust and then you know or and run routes on the field then Jacoby Lane's gonna have uh I think a pretty tough time yep John you are continuing to be the bear the wet blanket of this exercise now what 156 is still even a jump after his rise here I mean that puts his ADP for you like to benchmark it for people that's right at Trey Tucker and Jalen McMillan yeah very similar bets but on a conceivably better offense with Lamar at the helm I don't know a month ago everybody would have told me that the other guy was the guy to be drafting or whatever Bateman's talking about moving all over the formations and stuff like that we've played whack-a-mole on Teef's third wide receiver or second wide receiver we've played whack-a-mole on Baltimore second wide receiver you know Tez Walker last year and shit like this for for a decade and none of it's really mattered hopefully Jacoby Lane's different this is a decent bet in this territory see I disagree with this take from Chad I'm not saying Lane over Boston is crazy again it's not something you have to do but this the the Boston can absolutely be the wide receiver one on this team um for Lane that's an impossibility I would argue that Harold Fannin and Casey Concepcion and bad quarterback play is like a bigger impediment to production than even Zay Flowers and a cooked Mark Andrews like I think there is a clearer path for Lane if not similar and again like we look back I'm not saying he's Puka I'm not saying he's Almond Raw but when we do get these late round hits from guys who aren't round one wide receivers like they are in good offenses they're incompetent offenses that are going to score a lot of points and the opportunity just finds it there but I would not underplay the Denzel Boston target competition I mean all Harold Fannin has done his entire career is earn targets Casey Concepcion was a big target earner in college he's got a lot of work to do as well um and I just think I mean Baltimore the amount of red zone trips they're going to have compared to Cleveland it's going to dwarf it so I actually don't think it's it's that great but I think it's going to be a lot of work to do as well crazy they might score 20 more offensive touchdowns yeah like maybe you captured two of them from Jacoby Lane let's do uh let's do Jeremiah Love here uh I think we got at least some vaguely good news a second ago that he's not gonna you know require surgery here um does not need surgery on his high ankle sprain didn't think this was going to be the case but Mike LaFleur confirmed it anyways um 26.5% he's obviously falling in drafts a bit Nez where did you slot your true serum Jeremiah Love I I I didn't nuke him but I did uh send him down and to the uh I believe the 2-3 turn or the 3-4 turn rather yeah pick 36 right at the end of that turn there where he's going around you know the other running backs of Jacobs uh Travis Achan and uh and guys like that I think that's kind of like where he belongs at the moment I think that's kind of like where he belongs at the moment I think that's kind of like where he belongs at the moment I think that's kind of like where he belongs at the moment moment a high ankle sprain obviously sucks this offense has a lot of question marks he's going around guys that have done it before as veterans on better teams so I think this is where where he should be and uh yeah I'm definitely not loving uh the the latest out of that I didn't know that surgery was on the table so that was like oh yeah getting a lot of questions about that I don't need surgery shirt that I'm wearing like better answers better answered by the shirt yeah I think that's yeah uh I wasn't quite as bearish as Nez but I did go down to 31 um it is it's it's tough because I do think if you had some stronger round three running back options like you could push him down more but it is really hard in round three there uh you know Kyron Gervonta we got the brief stuff now I mean that running back stretch is pretty bad and Jeremiah Love still looks like a guy if he's let me see if I can piece together a room that can get him to the playoffs and then have my running back one anchor but yeah I mean I think Nez's ADP is probably the more more efficient one there John thank you oh John the bear always baby I love this 47 so that'll put him after Scadabo after ETN after Jacobs right next to like Montgomery and Swift I mean this is a historically bad offense on paper with like 15 games where they're double digit dogs like they just lost their presumably best offensive lineman for the season and they have four running backs and they paid Tyler Algier like I don't know they're not the worst offense in history on paper like that's that's that's come on I mean I'm just looking at the what their implied totals are coupled with whatever like if you want to look at the players on the offense instead yeah I know I'm just taking the bear case like I know we think some of these guys are talented but like I don't believe the math the math on the math on touchdown scoring is telling me that this guy in the third round is going to score three maybe four touchdowns this season sure we play on a half PPR touchdown late in sight no thank you yeah yeah I mean to me it ultimately comes down to what this timeline uh gets firmed up with but we know it's it's not just the missing games right we saw it with Omari and Hampton like came back last year and was not as effective after the injury and so then it's like what what are you getting and yeah you look at a guy like David Montgomery the Texans can't stop talking about how they're gonna give him the ball as many times as he can handle it DeAndre Swift Ben Johnson wants to score a billion points and Menon guys begged up like you could you know uh really start to have the conversation there I don't think ultimately he's probably gonna slide out of the for him as a player um for that to happen and people are always willing to discount it in BBM all of those early eliminator shares though of like early third round love look pretty pretty rough right now let's do let's bounce around a little bit here what's a fun one let's do George Kittle um Davis said yesterday on best ball breakfast it's the only take I have in fantasy football this year is that I like George Kittle so let me prove it here uh true ADP 81.2 uh I have him right after Tucker Craft well ahead of Laporta, Fannin, Pitts here um doesn't really make sense to me his ADP I keep clicking him even when I shouldn't what did you guys do here uh I'm I'm with you Pete I'm not quite as bullish as you but I'm very bullish and I've been pretty bullish on him the whole time as I've been with pretty much all these guys that have Achilles injuries that they're coming off of uh it's just there's mounting evidence that shows that these Achilles injuries heal better than ever and guys perform better than ever after they have these Achilles surgeries so um not necessarily better than they were before but better than ever for the sample of having this the surgery of course to me every signal they're they're being so they're trying so hard to like not commit to him being ready for week one but he knows he's gonna play week one and I think they know he's gonna play week one but they need they want they want to be totally sure of course you know like just come out and say to their opponent Kittle is ready he's gonna play against you guys you better game plan against them and here's how many snaps he's gonna play why would they say this they they won't Shanahan and is a notorious liar not that he's even there uh yeah Kittle Kittle's going to rise uh I I'm kind of shocked it hasn't happened yet John okay 102 still arise uh just compared to mine uh yeah so up 11.8 John so you're flipping him uh ahead of Pitts uh and just right alongside fan in there which which seems like the measured Kittle take yeah it's measured he's my tight end right now um across all contests so I've been taking him average pick I took him at was 112 so yeah I mean I like him I like the potential concentration of that offense I like that everybody else around him's hurt but it's also you know we know the spike week potential of Kittle he's in his 30s coming off an Achilles uh right next to a substation so I I mean I'm I'm kind of like I'm kind of tempering my expectations as much as I love him uh and like I kind of draw the line at Laporta and Pitts and Laporta and Pitts I will continue to take over him and then I take him over Harold Fannin and in that area this episode is brought to you by Michelob Ultra even if you're a pro or just in it for fun the moment you play for Michelob Ultra everything changes the focus sharpens the game gets real every point every move suddenly means something more because a superior light beer is on the line superior is worth playing for Michelob Ultra superior light beer find it near you at MichelobUltra.com enjoy responsibly copyright 2026 Anheuser-Busch Michelob Ultra light beer St. Louis Missouri this message is brought to 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Yeah, I think for me, like with, if you're not concerned about health, which is obviously why he's here, he's clearly ahead of Laporta for me just because I think Laporta is always going to be a little bit more of a just touchdown bet where Kittle, you get the touchdown bet, you get maybe a little bit more yak, you get a potential target hog as well in the way that Laporta is always going to kind of be third behind JMO and Amin Ra. So I see a little bit more room to run there, but I get that for sure. Let's do rapid fire on some of these. I'll do a full reveal here. DJ Moore, ADP of 53, Pete 63, John 34, taking the Liam serum. And Nez right there with me at 59. Let's let John wax poetic about DJ Moore. Dude, honestly, I don't have big DJ Moore bags right now. And maybe it just took me seeing him in a Bill's uniform to like get excited about it or something. But like, he's the best wide receiver that Josh Allen's ever had. And that offense go burr in the new stadium and Josh Allen going to throw touchdowns to him. Better than 2021, 2022 digs? I don't know. Maybe not. But I hope I hope he's in that realm. Right. So I want to correct my previous wrongs and start getting DJ Moore in that same vein as like JMO and Garrett Wilson and Waddle. Like, how different a bet is Waddle and DJ Moore? Like, why are they 20 picks apart? And why did I love Waddle and not love DJ Moore? Like, DJ Moore just wasn't a scheme fit last year for Ben Johnson. Like, what if he's just exactly what? What Josh Allen needs this year? Yeah, I think it's just more of a leap of faith based on, you know, his efficiency metrics and what he has done the past couple of years. Like, it is like a true bounce back where I think we've seen more recent flashes from Jalen Waddle as far as his yards per target, his ability to kind of consolidate when Tyreek was out. But yeah, I mean, I think the reason I like your take here, John, is I do feel like it'll be kind of polarized with more. Right. I feel like he's not a break-even player. I think he's either going to be a really bad pick or probably a smash pick. And we have the change environment stuff. We saw it with Pickens last year. We know how much that can do for these guys. That's a fun one. Let's do anyone. Anyone who gets 1300 yards with Justin Fields has my heart forever. So, you know, that's my line, man. Yeah, you're snaking it from him. All right, let's do Alec Pierce. Ninety one point. Nine. It should be fun to continue to get murky timelines on him like they can't even pin down like, hey, they're not even saying week one anywhere. They're just kind of like shrugging their shoulders. I went one seventeen point eight. John went one thirty five. Nez went one thirty. Wow. I cannot believe me being the Alec Pierce hater is somehow high on the total poll. Let's go to Nez here. Alec Pierce. One thirty. I mean, you're on the clock at one eighteen. Alec Pierce on the board. You're clicking his name. Yeah, you're on the clock at one seventeen point five. No, you're not. You're not. No, because I looked at this one, too, and again, I was banking it around the Concepcion. So I have Concepcion at one seventeen point five. When I'm comparing him to Dobbs, Higgins, Stribling, I'm like that. That's probably where I'll find my Alec Pierce range. The the inconvenient truth about Alec Pierce is one. He has an ankle injury and two Keenan Allen just signed. So those things combined super, super hurtful. For for Alec Pierce. But what he does to the entire Colts offense, I think, is just like hard to overstate in terms of his, you know, field stretching ability. And he obviously has been effective at that for two years running now. So he clearly can do it. But, you know, that relies on hella athleticism and speed. And he's coming off ankle surgery. So, like, how effective will he even be when he returns? I'm not trying to, like, pay a pay a quote unquote discount to find out. I. I also think the Keenan Allen like signing and stuff as like this kind of like masking and Band-Aid is a financial protection thing, too, because like they they they don't have like a cut out after this year. The first potential out for them on the Alec Pierce Pierce four year is two thousand twenty nine. And they're only giving him a nine million cap hit this year. But next year and the year after, it's thirty five thirty two. Then the potential out then thirty two. So if you're. Just like a smart organization, you really want to slow play this so that he's playing ball with you in those cap heavy years. Chuba Hubbard, ADP ninety four point eight. Obviously, he's dealing with his injury. Jonathan Brookstein was here even before the Chuba injury. Let's see what happens here. Nez and I in lockstep Chuba at one twenty. John at one thirty two. The name I kept arriving at for. Chuba was Chris Rodriguez. Like that's kind of the range there of the less exciting RB to who's still going to have a role, but in a less exciting offense, I would say than the the Jags. Except the one thing you have going with the Panthers is they run the ball well every year. Really good run game, solid offensive line. Chuba is going to be involved, but like you were paying for early season touches with this price tag. And now that's very much in question. And if. Jonathan Brooks is really good and runs away with the job like this price is going to look bad at ninety four point eight. Yeah, well said, Pete. They just lost two offensive linemen to, though. Is that recently? Yeah, like over the weekend and last week's practice or something. Man, where are all my newsletters writing about the offensive line injuries for me? Everybody just talk. Oh, baby. Silva Thorne newsletter. There you go. Nez, any thoughts on Chuba? Yeah, I just have him like around the. If they're running back twos that maybe our goal line backs, that's that's kind of like how I see him right now. I mean, show up was talking. He did a main event with Theo and he was talking with a Panthers reporter and the Panthers reporter. I mean, this means truly nothing. But like he was saying that they they they love Chuba, right? Like they they they think super highly of Chuba. They think he's going to be fine. And he's a huge locker room guy. So I say all that to say that, like, I wanted to go to like where you were. But at the same time, I'm like, you know, Jonathan Brooks, like I don't we don't know how good he's actually going to be. And Chuba is just kind of that, like, you know, you know what you're going to get type of player. So I don't think Chuba is going away in a way that I think the Brooks Bulls are assuming. Yeah, I like this comment in the chat from Robert because I agree with him despite the nuking of the ranking. But like rather take. Chuba round nine slash 10. Then then Brooks with the steam right now. Like, I, I, I agree about the Brooks steam getting kind of crazy. The thing is, is I think that she was probably going to continue to drop. And like, are you taking him over Jordan Mason? Are you taking him over Bill? Kenny Gainwell, Rashad White. I mean, there is a big gap from Rashad White to the Aaron Jones range. That's probably kind. Of where I'd be looking. But man, even him over Aaron Jones is a little tough. That's a two man backfield. The reporting on Aaron Jones is good. They're going to score a lot more points. So I don't know that the Chuba price is tricky right now. I think. Yeah, I was looking at Chris Rodriguez. I'm like, if he's where Chris Rodriguez goes, I'll mix in some Chuba. That's what that's where I was at. All right. Keaton Mitchell, 130.6 here. I decided to put his ADP basically identical to. So where it's out of just being like, this is a good ADP. This is a gross range for running backs. The upside thesis is clear. John, the bull here. I love it. Keaton Mitchell, 88. Nez saying he should go back a little bit. That's probably, you know, the measured take. But John, let's let you rip on bull case here. Take him over RJ Harvey, et cetera. Yeah. I mean, what if he's just what if he's just a Chan with a quarterback? Like, you know, what? What if this is the scenario that we've painted with? Yeah. I know that they use all three of the guys and they've he's the most electric of the bunch and he gets you. He's just the perfect week to week spike week profile for like your third or fourth RB on a team. Like, I'm not saying build like anchor Keaton Mitchell builds and he becomes your RB one. And then you have these zero RB like builds. He's just the perfect spike week portfolio like bolster guy. And if everybody's out on Hampton and everybody's out on how Hampton was at the end of the last. Season and his price point. Well, shouldn't we be in on Keaton? I don't know. Maybe I'm just overly bullish on a good, talented offensive coordinator with an MVP candidate quarterback just being like, I want this guy on my team. Like, I don't know that that seems pretty bullish. Yeah, I respect your your ADP here. Like, I really do. I'm obviously like not a Keaton Mitchell guy, but like that thesis is totally in the range of outcomes for Keaton Mitchell. Mitchell. I think that's why you know it's he's so polarizing is like he could just like have more usage than like we've ever seen from keaton mitchell and he could be very effective at what mike mcdaniel uses him uh yeah how he uses them so yeah i'm i i actually i i think that that's that's fair i think it's uh i feel like it's like the dj more one the other one john was high on right where this price it's like middling the two ranges because it's the thesis is either going to hit and the chargers are going to score a billion points and he's a chan and he's going to smash this or he's going to have the same role he did with the ravens he's going to have like eight touches a game and you're going to be like i wish i took 19 other guys here instead of him um all right a couple quick ones do another charger here gadston 167.5 continues to have bearish reports the charlie kohler vortex is kicking into gear i didn't nuke him too much though 170.5 nez uh actually coming up on him or up on him at 150 and nez is nuking him so we're kind of all over the board here um let's do gadston bullishness for john despite the reports yeah i think it's just a bet on the offense thing and the fact that they're probably just going to be heavily rotating uh all pass catchers in this offense and i can't look away that like in a medium setting for him let's call it last year where they needed more inline blocking where the whole offensive line was injured now you get a healthy offensive line i know the preseason usage wasn't like good but i think he could just be like one of those package guys like as a rookie to get like 690 yards in the nfl at tight end he's like pretty impressive and i don't think we can just sweep that under the rug because charlie kohler and david nojoku who nobody wanted to pay have showed up uh at the door so yeah nez you're at 190 here the one thing i would like to see is if you're going to be able to i'm like isn't this just the terrence ferguson bet you know at this point so i put mine you know just a smidge back there right by by terrence ferguson but you're at uh 190 there which uh i think makes sense where where is the negativity though for you with gaston yeah it's hard to ignore the fact that uh we saw in joku and kolar rest in the preseason and gaston played um given what he did last year i'm like why why why is this happening but uh yeah i'm just trying to like not have my head in the sand on a guy that i was into last year and i still think can be you know a good nfl tight end there's just too much smoke to ignore you know there's very sharp people that like charlie kohler and while i disagree it's something that i think uh can't be fully ignored and called wrong you have to you have to weigh that in somewhere and the team's telling us that they're going to because they did they signed them and they're not playing them and so gaston to me just there's so much negativity around gaston right now they're like dude if he's in the if i'm on the clock in the 18th round and he's there that's not even like an auto click for me yeah okay yeah and i think the you know the charlie kohler stuff it's like even if you don't want to click charlie kohler and try to get his point you have to acknowledge that it is bad uh for uh for gaston uh here in the same way that chris manhurtz who played ahead of us in the 18th round and he's there and he's there and isaiah likely is bad for likely and theo johnson is bad for likely here um yeah sorry man my dongle is just like the worst today you're what you're you're like you guys ever heard of a dongle where's dongle in the league yeah um okay last one here caleb douglas 190.5 uh i went really um bullish here 155.5 uh john not buying it 200 and 170 here for nez um i will just say that you know duane had him as his biggest ranking riser after preseason played uh entirely with the ones had uh a pretty good uh set of air yards on that drive using him as a downfield threat i just think you know everyone loves doing the like who's the wide receiver one you know we're drafting malik washington here and it's like we're now getting indication that caleb douglas uh a rookie you know mystery box selection here is already listed at the top of their depth chart you know there's no veteran deference going on here they're just like this guy can play um i know he's a little banged up i want to say i saw maybe missed a practice here but i think you know similar to the jacobi lane stuff obviously not near as exciting of an offense but i think there is uh room for a really kind of sneaky good fantasy season and it's one that i would just be willing to chase up boards a bit yeah it feels a little uh jayden hagenzy-esque from last year where it's just kind of like oh maybe that was like a little bit too high but yeah i i agree with you man like there's definitely room to run in this depth chart chris bell coming back this week might be a little bit of a thorn in his hot in his side but like this depth chart is just quote-unquote professional ass wide receivers that weren't overly professional in their day with like the toll birds and the uh jalen ragers on the team and shit like this so there's there's tons of opportunity it's just like are they going to score more than 20 passing touchdowns this season is it a good pick like how many usable weeks are from whoever the wide receiver one is in miami yeah any thoughts on caleb douglas nez as we get into a bbm draft here not not really man i'm i'm i'm sort of just like out on him right now just because i am you know i i wasn't getting ahead of it but i'm gonna take him a little bit now i think the one thing that um why i would consider taking caleb douglas is i'm actually like a malik willis truther i think i don't have enough malik willis to back that up i don't have enough malik willis to back that up because i'm too scared to actually put money into that but i actually think malik willis can play a little bit and it's just like how much do i trust the weapons around him to actually like get it done because like he looked good in green bay you know like that was a way different environment than playing in miami without mike mcdaniel so uh yeah but i think i think malik willis can get it done so if caleb douglas is the number one wide receiver there then yeah we're obviously getting a huge value all right we are going to get rolling in a bbm draft i'm from the seven hole we have nez at uh nine i'm on the clock john took jonathan taylor at four you uh alpha you are always just flexing on us here i'm going to use this like you know cmc kind of spook zone to continue to get up on amin raw who i've been light on exposure wise just because of rng but talk to us about talk to us about jonathan taylor uh john this is half ppr scoring and the dude can score 40 a week four times a year so why not let's mix up the combos and i've been i've been talking to nez a little bit about the combos from the left side of the board feels so so much better when you take running back in the first um but yeah let's fuck around find out fuck around find out nez is gonna slurp that cmc substation dipperino at nine yeah yeah i don't take a lot of cmc i take jt over him and amin raw over him but we'll take cmc at nine that feels uh that that feels like a good price i i think if we truth serum jt's adp i would have said four really okay yeah exactly right here ahead of puka and jsn he has he has gibbs and bijan ceilings like one to one and so why why like why not why is he not going ahead of of these guys like i think the fact like my trepidation to start i was like man i don't know about dimes like is he is he healthy you know how's he how's he gonna look um you know i was kind of holding my breath on that him being healthy i think it just like unlocks jt such a funny thing to like say for a guy jt's talent but it's it's it's the truth so yeah i'm gonna take a little gm gm here and just grab saquon a guy that i don't draft a lot of nice so here's the question for you jod is it purely preference you can draft jonathan taylor at adp and pull up the guy in the second round you're about to take with him or you could draft jonathan taylor at 104 and take the guy in the second round at adp i think it's just it's probably a portfolio thing right like like if like you want a lot of jonathan taylor so you're gonna get a lot of jonathan taylor like yeah enough both i don't know man people are uh people are slowly starting to understand the game out here the john warner game within the game uh i'm gonna i passed on hampton there i mean that's another guy who if you wanted to do a true serum adp is probably more of like an early third round uh pick uh i think you could you could argue based on how mike mcdaniel continues to talk about using keith mitchell kamani vidal etc so i grabbed uh almond raw to pair with or sorry aj brown to pair with almond raw and john grabs his high neighbors we get the unique combo on the left side and then we build out the left side guys around it that's a fun combo i would do i would do the same thing for sure i'm really hoping that neighbors doesn't steam to the right side of the board because i mean i'm trying not to be like a total you know coward if he does but like i can't help but think of the 1v1s and the 2v2s of the neighbors teams on if he goes to the right side of the board he's going to be like a total coward those were at the one-two turn compared to when he was in the 40s like it's hard to not be kind of spooked by by those combos and and i want to keep drafting neighbors so as long as he's on the left side of the board i have no hesitation whatsoever to to select him yep yep uh definitely can make the case for him uh where i selected aj brown i think that was right around the uh the true serum adp let's see what john does here with the jt neighbors start we have the running backs falling no breeze no what did john do here garrett wilson nice yes sir a little ahead of adp way ahead of adp all right okay what's the uh fun baby yeah is it anything there other than having fun or what what's your what's your thought there he's a one-two turn guy last year and now he has the best quarterback of his career i don't know let's just see if it works i like air wilson i think he's you know everybody's you know as we do every fantasy season after 2023 we're like trying to find the next puka and this year we're all trying to find the next jsn and i think really the conversation is who can have like who can lead the league in target share and i think gary wilson is totally in the running to lead the league in target share for sure i think i'm going to cook a little zero rb here i'll let the room decide where the love in breeze hall prices should be and i'm going to grab davante smith who also slid past adp so i'm in raw aj brown davante smith for me wow this uh this train mcgronk fall i think i'm just not gonna think twice about this one uh take him at 33 that's fun cmc barkley mcbride yeah what so what's causing all these fallers here oh it's john took garrett wilson uh breeze hall goes 34 uh so the three starts for us taylor neighbors wilson for john three running backs for me uh almond raw aj brown davante smith and nez goes cmc barkley and mcbride here yeah i man something about the the mcbride falling knife like he's falling for a reason because it's just like the cardinals just have this stench about them but i think mcbride is just like too big to fail so if he's gonna fall i'll just i'll just take him another gm here i'm just gonna keep taking this adp value bro um thank you so much yeah yep um let's see here etn uh did we did uh jacobs just come off the board um let's see here i'm gonna have some fun i'm gonna keep the zero rb thing pushing uh we talked about like does scatabo drop a little bit on this news i think etn is a fine pick here um but i'm gonna be an ideological winner i'm gonna be an ideological winner i'm gonna be an ideological winner right now and uh we're gonna roll almond raw aj brown davante smith also get that sweet sweet week 17 correlation with almond raw and colston loveland i love it uh i've been kind of like changing my tune on the bears uh as draft season goes along where i'm just scared that like i'm overthinking the bears and like trying to get too cute in in the in the bearish uh stance on them so given the fact that burden looks like totally on track to play week one uh i've been i've been taking burden like honestly like even ahead of adp a little bit because i'm trying to make up for lost time yeah yeah that's the thing like i wrote about it in the newsletter on saturday and i know it's just like a silly quote that ben johnson was talking about wanting to score a billion points but like that full quote he's like i know exactly how many points the broncos scored that year with peyton manning and he's like i want to break records i want shootouts i want blowouts i'm like there's some signal there like and i referenced that game that the the lions had a couple years ago against the jags where they were up like 28 to 6 at halftime and they scored 52 points and they just kept letting golf throw and everybody went nuts and i'm like if this offense is doing that we're just like it does not matter what the score is like we are still going to be chucking the ball and trying to hang a shit ton of points i mean the it kind of is like with the charger stuff right like we're paying the tax on the excitement for the offense oh yeah john you you got to do dj more first and mo fucking hey man you can't put dj more at 34 in your true serum adp and then not expect the the viewers to take him ahead of adp that's how this works oh that was annoying i was i was setting up such a beautiful team yeah um but yeah the i'm i'm i'm in on the bears i'm gonna keep just cooking zero rb here uh mike evans uh oh no he goes so we'll do we could do judkins we could do davante um what do i want to do here let's do davante davante at five six um i know nes is out on him but yeah no we're just gonna have fun we'll see what a zero rb draft looks like today 55 davante adams is like it's very good uh oh man i think i'm yeah we're we're going we're going high t as hell man i'm taking another running back uh give me give me a jadarian price wow okay you can't let him come back to me at 66 look at this here this is uh nez and i uh we both have the elite tight end uh that i have four wide receivers nez has four uh running backs and then john is grabbing every player six picks ahead adp it's the it's the it's the new meta man lean into your strengths like if you're building out something like make like you know like you gotta smoke the whole pack and uh and i think that these you know and i think it's correct this is perfectly indicative of all our brands pete the og wide receiver avalanche guy nez the fucking gotta get the good values and build the good structurally sound team but then flips the build like crazy and does what nobody else would do and takes only four running backs and somehow ends up with three tight ends and eight wide receivers or something like that and then i just take all the guys out like that everybody else doesn't think about putting together on one team there you go it really is it really is an on-brand draft from everybody for sure good showing gents i have to decide this is kind of an interesting spot because i obviously have the quarterback stacks um drake may i could do with aj brown um hurts with davante smith neither of those guys are going to come back to me if i pass on them i also could be in the market to grab my first running back here so i'm trying to decide do i do i really push it grab that quarterback i probably just take drake may here with aj brown or or i pull up remandre who i think is fair fair price to go here that's kind of what i'm wrestling with may goes makes it easy for you that was a that was a tough call right because remandre is you know flying up adp right now and obviously you would have loved having that aj brown stack but you still get the benefit of like you know the patriots being a machine with that with the correlation between those two but yeah that's a tough call especially when you're you're doing a zero rb and you're like man i know i need an rb soon um i i think honestly like your team's gonna be better off for having remandre probably and i have you know i've golf uh i had stafford potentially nez talk to me about qj at 64 i haven't seen him that high in a while yeah so pulling them up there fingers crossed i can get um a certain qb to come back to me uh with that one but just kind of in the same vein of the way john is talking about keaton mitchell on this offense and like being like really good i think qj and lads like i don't know how how big the gap is between the two there in this new in this new offense so i'm i'm just kind of like leaning into the this chargers team and the hype you know it's a pure you know it's hype for sure i get it but it's really hard to not be excited about what they're cooking and i think that qj uh could just really run pure on touchdowns is really the the the hope here and and seeing how mcdaniels uses him i know a lot of people are worried about trey harris because qj dropped some passes and trey harris is making one-handed catches but uh qj better player higher draft capital better prospect so yeah i'm leaning into it man and it's a weird wide receiver uh range there where he goes tyson's in the middle of falling uh you know metcalf is like fine read it's just a bunch of like mid wide receivers there so i'm gonna take the guy with the most upside john grabs jonathan or sorry uh grabs blake quorum and jaylen hurts there uh so much for my zero rb plans toady paul or jonathan brooks and rico dowdle all off the board here um but i am gonna do caleb you know i talked about should i go may um tyson's obviously falling i don't think i need metcalf on this team no other running backs for me to take let's go caleb to loveland here at pick 69 i think it's under discussed that when you do the full zero rb approach that you should also win the onesies like you know what i mean like that should be part of the thesis of your team is like five wide receivers or six wide receivers and then win the onesies and whether that's you know elites or taking three and three it doesn't really matter structurally but i think it's like something that is under discussed when they're like oh i'm going to do a zero like zero rb build here well you should also be smashing the onesies yeah for sure because the whole in the thing that that dovetails for me it's not just winning the onesies it's also leaving some later slots for wide receivers and if you rip six straight wide receivers you're just done you could argue if you rip five straight wide receivers you have like maybe one late yeah um so yeah i like being able to keep some optionality later in the draft yeah i'm a hundred percent team five straight wide receivers like do not take a sixth unless it was keen and alan in the 18th round but uh they're it's just it's just insane man the uh the diminishing returns on on that is just wild like make that bet hopefully you're flexing those guys and uh yeah and and call it i um i thought about laporta there you know going for this double stack with golf but my thought is again boxing myself out of tight end when i know there's going to be another value later is just a tougher pill to swallow and i like rj harvey i'm going to try to be getting more rj harvey here uh at pick 90 yeah i think you made the right decision i i'm just like so um you know a fan of like the sims showing me different ways to build teams that i think laporta there could have been really fun where you know just like oh i could flex him you know maybe he's flexing for me sometimes you get a little bit of week seven or a little bit you do get week 17 correlation there to to the extreme now with amin raw and laporta just kind of an offensive bet and a week 17 bet and then from there you're almost like it almost takes less pressure off running back because now you you you are basically saying like hey i'm probably not going to flex or running back and yeah that's not that's not a great feeling but you're taking pressure off running back from having to hit your flex when you when you take laporta there because you can still flex laporta but another wide receiver there like that that is that would have been dicey yeah uh all right john you are you did laporta uh you didn't want to let him come back to me well played um who are you going to grab here in the ninth i don't know golf or dart make too much sense but i kind of just want to push it and find out and take a swing at like an upside wide receiver yeah golden there for you let's see here uh what do i want to do kick trying to uh influence me here rba has jk dobbins i'm at 103 here see this is the other thing too it's like okay fanon in pits are here um manunga is an interesting one when you have caleb but it's also like yeah i think i'm gonna go i think i know that's what's like the price on him's gonna get better this is like bill or mason for me i'll take another swing here that's that's bill city man that's that's like that's such a slam dunk pick it's for your team especially yeah and this is the the spot too of where i do feel like these builds are they don't feel near as gross as they did you know a couple months ago like romandre harvey bill i mean you can you can build out a room in this range i do think you just got to be aggressive in rounds like 6 through 11 because then you're you're in true flyer territory if not yeah yeah you do you like like that's such a nice trio of running backs there usually you know like zero running backs zero running back builds don't normally have like three pretty like fun selections there so i think i think i'm gonna like your team a lot whenever it's all done nez you went ahead you did get herbert with qj we forgot to mention that and then you also got godwin at 88 you know similar to kind of the conversation he looks like a smash yeah i don't know why your board isn't refreshing let me see what's going on here sorry guys um window is this the right one let's see yeah i don't i won't spoil it i'll wait for the big reveal of of who i took there not that it was anything spectacular but yeah i don't know what's going on here with my the browser can't access your screen what is going on here i'll i'll bleed some clock for you so you have some time to get back in this thing yeah oh yeah thanks john if you don't mind i don't know what's going on my screen share is not working thanks john what did you do here john yeah it says the browser can't access your screen what's going on well i went dart and then uh casey concepcion after that but um gonna lock up my second quarterback and then call it at two qbs that's i really like my teams with two quarterbacks uh the most this season so get i want to make sure that they're good you know i don't want to disrespect the the qb draft capital meta so i think by having herbert and dart i kind of get myself a lot of outs of spike weeks there's two guys that that can run yep i uh i grabbed fanon and this was kind of why i was like wrestling with the laporta thing just knowing you know you can get some nice prices on these other tight ends so fanon falls to 114 which is just hard for me to pass on yeah i i was fanning on my screen but i i ended up passing because i have mcbride and i have needs at wide receiver that uh that are going to be taken care of via volume but yeah i i couldn't i don't think i could hesitate on taking a wide receiver three in the in the 10th round yeah i should i should have taken dart or golf the previous round and like pushing it was probably unnecessary yeah i got i got shut out too because i was looking at stafford he went two picks before i took bill and then i was gonna be interested in golf but he went unstacked to the 11 hole there which was a weird one so both john and i missed out on that one yeah i i i don't love it because they have overlapping buys so now i've committed myself to three yeah so which means i should probably just lock up a secondary nah it's time boys all right there you go some fun yeah yep it's a good one wow respect that's that that's putting money where your mouth is right there here's the question okay rashad white goes i was like am i gonna double up on washington running backs if he continues to slide i'm gonna double up on washington running backs if he continues to slide probably would have so i need a second quarterback and kyler just fell to pick 127 i think i'm gonna make that click yeah you have a tough call there i think because c rod was still on the board so was aaron jones yeah and yeah i think that those were definitely in the cards for you to possibly select dude i love chris rodriguez but i have a lot and i don't think that this is a chris rodriguez pick for me right here i'm gonna i'm gonna take a tight end too though i am gonna go tight end and i'm gonna take uh yeah i'm gonna take kinkade right here yeah could have could have waited and take like these wide receivers aren't like totally speaking my name here uh could have like i love chris rodriguez but that just like didn't seem necessary with the start that i had and um i i don't know who i would have taken instead of kinkade there but i could have done anybody else and tried to get juwan johnson on the way back because i think he's somebody that's gonna rise and and he's one of my highest drafted players but we're gonna go the kinkade route because i'm trying to get more kinkade i have a decent amount but i would like even more i'm trying to be greedy yeah yeah he's he's an interesting one there i mean it does seem like he's going to be in the kind of same you know playing time split that he was uh previously all right dude we're we're you we're taking chris rodriguez so he's gonna fall to 135 i was really hoping you wouldn't i'm sorry man this is this is crazy this is crazy yep no that was good that taking chris rodriguez there is a difference between taking nine or ten wide receivers so i'm gonna take chris rodriguez yeah and now i have to just kind of like eat my vegetables with woody marks i think um i really took took the joy out of that well i mean he was already i mean rodriguez was what 10 picks past adp so i i didn't even think that was a chance uh for a little while there yeah yeah oh yet it's now it's playing the 2v2 like because i could have gone it's basically um like rodriguez or jones along with malik willis versus kyler and woody marks which doesn't sound great i i i don't know i'm i'm i'm on record of being like you know kind of not getting overly optimistic about kyler with the vikings but the the The closer we get to the season, the more excited I am for Kyler with the Vikings. So, you know, there's pretty much everybody in the industry is high on Kyler. You got him past ADP. I think it's a good play. Yeah. I still like your top three running backs, and you don't even have the pressure to flex one. Should we be drafting Ty Felton? Like, I'm thinking about Pete's back stacks when he has two tight ends already. Relax, relax. Here's the new 12-13 meta, boys. Are you going to stack dimes up, brother? You got to stack it up, boys. That's brutal. This is the fake bull. Brutal. Brutal mog. Brutal mog. 148 Keenan Allen there. I did a BBM this morning, and I got him at 170. Okay. Like, interesting. Was that before 9 a.m. Eastern? It was pretty early. Why? Well, that's when the overlords adjust their dragon drops. They adjusted last night, I think. Oh, did they? Okay. Yeah. They adjusted at 10.33 p.m. last night, to be exact. Oh, all right. Yeah. But, no, that was a great line of questioning there. When did you get there? Brute sniping his dimes combo. I took Jonathan Taylor at four, buddy. I set the precedent. Set the fucking tone out here. Yeah, we call that squatters, right? Yeah. Set the tone. I went with the bet on J.K. Dobbin's bet in this one. Grabbed Jonah Coleman along with R.J. Harvey there. Jonah Coleman's stuff continues to sound pretty good. I hadn't been clicking him a ton, but, man, he's one I'm really. I have my eyes wide open on Jonah Coleman. Yeah, he could very well be snatching chains in that backfield. I think R.J. Harvey. was awesome last year. He did great for the opportunities that he had opened up for him, but Coleman is, in my opinion, a different back than R.J. Harvey and one that I think Sean Payton would trust more if an opening took place in that backfield. I think Coleman's a really fun pick. Look at the Bishop Sankey of my generation. Oh, relax. Look at this week. Or week 13. This round 13 last call for running back. Algier, Tracy, Marshawn Lloyd, Kamara, Bigsby, Spears. That was like, all right, get them now, boys, because there ain't much after it. All right. Got to pass on Saquin at 14 so you can take Tank Bigsby at 150. Slapping it up. Got to do it. Nice. Well, if you're going to slap it up. I mean, if there's a. You know, I can find any team to add Travis Hunter to, but one that has Amin Ra, A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith, Devontae Adams, that's a Travis Hunter team at 162. That's the perfect archetype for it. Lane's a nice pick there. You're probably, what, like six wide receivers on this team? Yeah. Yeah, probably shutting it down. I mean, I might just be two at the onesies, though. Caleb Kyler, Loveland Fannin. So I'm going to have some picks to play with. Yeah, I wouldn't even fault you for stopping at five, but I know I'm sort of in the minority, in terms of being comfortable with that. Yeah, there isn't really anything. I guess, like, if there's a crazy Jawan Jennings fall with Kyler, I could entertain that. But yeah, this definitely feels like a team to keep throwing more running back darts at. Yeah, like, I think you just kind of spray and pray. Yeah. The focus sharpens. The game gets real. Enjoy responsibly. Copyright 2026 Anheuser-Busch. Michelob Ultra Light Beer. St. Louis, Missouri. And a throwback flick at the local. Drive-in. I had a little look-see's to my left there, just seeing how many running backs. And I was like, oh, I can push sharps around the corner. I like this idea of sharps being like a little bit ahead of timeline. And yeah, we've seen it before. Yeah, I was going to give him a look coming back if he's still hung around. Yeah, I think that would have made sense for you if he happened to fall. But yeah, it's interesting. The reports have been so strong on him that kind of hard to understand. It's hard to ignore, but I'm staying strong with Jadarian Price, running with the ones and being good. So yeah. John grabs Hawk. There has a 3-4-6-2. I have a 2-5-5-2 coming up in the 15th. Yeah, I should have taken sharps first, and then I prioritized the stack. But McMillions has been falling a bit, so I probably should have done it the other way. And now I've boxed myself out of tight end again. Or structurally boxed myself out yet again because I took overlapping buys at tight end, so I need another one now. So I did it both at the onesies, so it's going to turn into a 3-5-7-3. You were probably taking three tight ends anyways, I think. Yeah, I think so too. But I guess the quarterback was probably the bad one then. I was hoping to get Dylan Sampson there. There's still plenty of wide receivers, so I'm just trying to get another running back. Grab Brian Robinson, who is maybe the least sexy, good pitcher. Back here these days compared to all the other buzzy running backs, but the thesis is unchanged. I love Minnesota Mike picking me up. He's picking me up there. Couple seven-on-seven red zone TDs yesterday. Out of fucking way, Mike. What is that worth? Hawk was cooking. Veteran tight end was cooking in seven asides yesterday. We need a Minnesota Mike for every team. We need to get a Jaguar John in here. Just someone to give us a play-by-play. That would be awesome. Yeah. That would be so good. Viking Vinny here. He's like, dude, Kyler was looking good today, throwing him on a rope. Oh, man. What am I going to do here? Clearly going wide receiver. Do I want to? I might slap it up. Slap it up. Slap it up. Yeah. We're going to go for it here because I think I could use some points early. I'm going to go Devon Bailey. Shout out to Bayou Bengal, the infamous Devon Bailey bull. If you guys aren't familiar, Bayou Bengal, he's a streamer, does drafts. He's awesome. He has 80% Devon Bailey in his portfolio. 80%. That's incredible. Did someone in the Discord say, you just know somebody's going to come and flex their 80% Devon Bailey and then that ended up being that dude? I didn't see that, but that's hilarious if so. Yeah. I grabbed Sadiq at 186. I mean, part of the, you know, he had the injury, but they say he's still tracking to play week one. If Cooper's in the shadow realm, Sadiq and just the barrier of what Sadiq needs to do to be relevant at tight end is so low. Yeah. I'm just going with a rocked up tight end room here. Loveland fan and Sadiq. Yeah. I do think it's a pretty good price at this point to like, to buy the dip on Sadiq, right? You know, first round pick, uber athletic. Yeah, it does seem like he is going to, like he's definitely not going to open the season on IR. Like that's for sure. And week one is like a little up in the air and he's missed time. But, you know, like you said, I'm not worried about the Mason Taylor, even though he was like serviceable last year. Yeah. All right. Two, six, five, three for me. Nez, what did you do here? Two, five, seven, two for now. I took that Bailey selection. I think it's time. Excuse me. Sorry to, to, to, to probably eat some vegetables with this next pick. So we'll, we'll, we'll see what comes back to me, but I think I should have some, some dusty, some dusty vets available for me at this next pick. Yeah, I'm going to take one more, maybe two more. I will see what comes back to me, but Emmett Johnson, another just kind of like big swing handcuff. You know, I have way more like Cateron Allen, Nicholas Singleton, you know, like five, 6% of those guys, Emmett Johnson, along with Mike Washington are now kind of the guys I'm trying to get up to a similar range at this juncture. I don't want to be dramatic. but that might have have like saved saved your draft why because emma johnson is such a freaking smash what do you mean save implies that it's something needed to be saved in the first place oh yeah i think that's super charged my draft super charged yeah yeah thank you yeah it didn't it didn't save it it's super charged it no emma johnson i think has a spot on basically like any team in the 17th right now so very very excited about him just seems like he's like the clear rb2 based on the way he looks and the reporting out of camp and yeah i think ken walker's in line for belcal usage but that would be the first time in his career that he's had total belcal usage and you know can can he withstand that will they actually do that i think there's you know there's some questions there and that that leads to some pretty fun uh chances for for emma johnson to to emerge i can't get over the fact that he's wearing number 10 and i just see 10 running up the middle and i just think i see a pacheco's heavy feet oh god i just i just auto taekwon thornton oh no didn't he leave today on a cart yeah he did they they calling it a hamstring i'm gonna play the goddamn hits every time i try to get this jeremy bernard exposure down then he's available at 18-6 here so come on down jeremy taekwon is a week 17 stack with my chargers onslaught so actually good pick week 17 is a long ways away for a hamstring we're totally fine one one true crm adp we forgot to um to do um yeah was cyrus allen oh yeah yeah i mean do you have him higher like if of the guys i mean douglas um jacoby lane do you have him higher or lower than those guys i think definitely lower that that's another guy that i think you know and maybe i just have a memory hold the previous chiefs hyped up wide receivers but the cyrus allen hype seems different it just it just well more yeah yeah and i think yeah i had a uh yeah i was talking about him with cups the other day too and i think i i was thinking him about him a little bit wrong as a prospect too of thinking about him more as like the taekwon worthy stretcher whereas he could actually be like the rashi rice insurance a bit more as well which would be would be pretty exciting too there but yeah worthy looks good um all right let's do a quick recap of these teams here um john why don't you hop us in yeah we need 10 more we'll do one more draft here as we recap this team so i had the 0rb build the 2763 amon ross st brown uh davante smith uh aj brown colson loveland davante adams remandre stevenson caleb williams rj harvey bill fannin kyler murray woody marks jonah coleman travis hunter brian robinson sadiq emmet johnson and jeremy bernard nez how did you land the plane with your four running back start yep so we went two five nine two uh justin herbert jackson dart and then at running back cmc saquon javante williams jadarian price and then chris rodriguez at wide receiver we got a whole bunch of them uh qj godwin casey concepcion trey harris jacoby lane adenai mitchell devon valet malachi fields taekwon thornton week 17 hammer and then trey mcgronk and dalton first aid at tight end i do like my team a lot i know that i think a lot of people are uncomfortable with like the wide receiver at volume uh play but to me uh i like the way it looks yeah i mean for five 18th rounders from the beginning of bbm on the same team it's not bad it's not bad bro oh okay am i getting scroll shamed by by john warner is that is that and john's first four picks uh he has uh four third rounders uh on his team yeah exactly right what's yours john it's unique uh three five seven three talon hurts uh baker mayfield and then danny dimes to be honest i probably should have taken dart or golf and just shut it down and not done three quarterbacks because i yeah whatever uh jonathan taylor bucky irvy blake quorum keaton mitchell and ollie gordon curious uh malik neighbors uh garrett wilson jmo matthew golden keenan allen's new adp 148 um have we made a pick in the other one yet uh no we are we are all in a row one seven one eight one nine okay who's um murderers row jesus i'm getting spit roasted by you guys my god jalen mcmillian's tanked sam laporta tj hawkinson and kate otten team probably would have looked better if i'd just taken golf instead of doing the baker and dimes thing and then if i had passed on hawk and just done like anchor laporta or like three tight ends but five at the ones he's supposed to play on this team and i took six like an idiot no this is a good team you still drafted a good team so um man am i just gonna draft the same team i just did here uh i have oh ten percent no you're i'm bleeding the clock for you uh no uh yeah no you're good john you're good okay um let's do let's find some james cook here we're gonna we're gonna bounce around we're inspired by john you know we're you know ignoring adp we're starting to balance round one exposures this is my 119th bbm draft uh they say james cook is going to catch more passes this year so i need it i need it i i also wanted to do uh i'll take cmc i also wanted to do um like part of the true serum was like some of these back end of the first round guys or like the guys that you think could like kill you kind of vibe um or like guys that could blow up the tournament like emmett johnson fitting that blow up the tournament like blake quorum fitting the blow up the tournament stuff but uh yeah i am pretty pretty curious about like the james cook at the tail end here and the ashton genti as like the two guys i'm underweight they could just absolutely kill me i'm pretty curious about like the james cook at the tail end absolutely murder me this year yeah yeah what what are you at at genti like zero like one or two yeah all right uh nez started with almond raw john has cmc thank god barkley i thought he was gonna i thought i was gonna have to drop barkley and i was really not in the mood for that let's see here pete you inspired me last last draft with the aj brown selection so i'm gonna go aj brown and do it do a zero rb start my myself here yeah um i'm gonna see am i gonna let john inspire me or uh sorry i'm gonna take h and they said he's gonna get 40 touches a game definitely that's another fun one too yeah i mean h and they said he's gonna get 40 touches a game h and and neighbors they're kind of like the uh the equivalent picks at the their respective positions as far as just being absolute ballers um and maybe i guess i guess it's different in that h and you have team level risk and with neighbors there's just still the lingering injury stuff but i want eggers to have a gift 210 finally one for eggers one of the good guys yeah i mean i i think you could argue with that i think you could argue with that i think you could argue neighbors even has some team level risk too sure yeah i mean if what do we still have james there is james backup still in new york yes yeah sure that's nice that is kind of that's a little cozy there that that that that that has to like count for something yeah it's like there's a few of those backups right it's like flacco can get the ball to chase if we really need uh i mean last year it was brissette like you know you want a brissette level quarterback there james he can do it yeah yeah that would that'd be fine i wanted to be the lad guy this year and i'm like slowly pumping the brakes a little bit like i love the offense i love the setup i loved his rookie year but it's just like every projection model that i look at with their like target tree yeah it's just like so wide you know exactly it's same as um the jags like they're just like those target trees are just not condensed at all yeah that's like really kind of like my mo in terms of drafting receivers this season is just like can you can you concentrate the target share and right and i have a lot of concerns about lad uh target share for sure all right nez you inspired me last draft i'm going to continue to take trey mcbride here three seven trey mcbride let's do it i think i'm gonna go breeze hall i know he's out two to three weeks but the season is in four weeks so should be should be good to go with a little dip there and i think breeze hall total total bell cow outcomes for for him this season in terms of usage i just got three running backs that are all going to be projected as top eight plays in week one yeah let's hope week one lasts forever Kyron Kyron season will be interesting. He's like, I don't, think he's a bad like obviously he's not a bad pick and i think he's like a very safe pick and you know if he doesn't get hurt he's going to not bust but i do think that like the ceiling is a little limited on him but i think just the safety that he brings in an offense that should be just like nuts is is definitely you know makes him a good pick you know he's not i don't he's not a fade but um okay very thankful that i got the garrett wilson pick there you ready to see uh the new deandre swift adp there you go there you go i like it um yeah i was very excited about that i'm gonna grab my first wide receiver here ted arroyo mcmillan at pick 42 dude if if they're right about the offense and like you know we talk about the ben johnson connection like of like guys he's had in the past and stuff like they clearly haven't moved on from swift he was totally fine with him being their lead guy last year kind of thing like if he does exactly what he did last year like you're gonna be happy with that price point but if he does like 1600 yards alongside that or he does four more touchdowns because their offense is actually going burr like he's you know he's got a lot of time to do that so i'm gonna grab my first wide receiver here ted basically kyron in disguise with more job security yeah uh i agree with garage here he says is the back end of the draft clearly the best access to two top rbs is hard to find at the front of the board now that we have breeze and love sliding and mcbride sliding it's like i think you want to be late middle and then like you look here like i guess in this draft getting london to come back to your gibbs team is pretty sick but then you're having to pull up wide receivers here it's rashi rice it's lad um davante alave i think are fine picks but i don't know man i i do like the middle and late right now i think more i agree and i think it's also just easier to build hero rb setups and that sets up so much better on the right hand side right jmo there at the uh four five no one's really i mean i don't think it's a big deal and that's probably why no one's talking about it but he's missed consecutive days with a shoulder injury i miss that yeah uh shillane nick shillane over at uh you know nbc uh he does some blurbs for the for the lions and he was he was keeping me up to date with that because he were he knows how much i adore jmo and the lions but yeah he's been out so um i they they are talking about it as though it's no big deal they said it's minor so hopefully it is minor but yeah i don't i don't i don't love that obviously so hopefully we can get him back on the practice field soon so i can stop caring about it but his price hasn't fallen uh but i was i was getting pretty crazy with my my jmo uh shares for a minute but i slowed down let me win pete let me win uh i'll let you have dj more i'm gonna grab uh i'm gonna grab tootin i the tootin stuff you know pick 55 it was funny there was a lot of chatter this morning with lakint allen having an injury that's going to keep him out for a bit people were acting to it about you know i it's like tootin gonna get pushed up even more uh but he falls five picks past adp here which i'll uh i'll grab i'll go trevion that trevion the trevion selection never feels good but it doesn't but i'm doing it unless you're uh bbg yeah it's one it's one of those things where it's like you probably want to be underweight but you still don't want to full a guy who can break break fantasy i know i know you're just paying for the contingent upside you know ultimately which is we do that with a lot of picks yeah he's definitely has the potential to just really sting sting the hardest like they just can can someone say something nice about trevion just just one nice that's one nice that's all i ask just one blurb one blurb but can't even get that seems like a lot to ask these days this episode is brought to you by mickelobe ultra even if you're a pro or just in it for 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yeah i guess i'm building a similar team to nez but i think i might stop at four maybe maybe five with double double overlapping 11s there i that didn't feel good at all i probably should have just poor gone adp and taken one of the wide receivers but i don't really love i don't know i'm kind of like scared maybe i should have done the hurts sake one thing and just made a team level bet i was gonna pull up remandre if tate went uh but i'm just gonna grab carnell tate here and we will uh we'll catch up on him all those times i passed on him for jordan tyson i now can grab him at pick 66 i guess i almost took remandre to do remandre and trevion but i don't know if that's broke or woke interesting i mean i think yeah i think so i think so you probably just want it a little cheaper you know like we might find a spot where you can do brooks and chuba you know like something like that uh-huh yeah back to back like that definitely it's like why even take trevion um right if you're if i'm gonna do that i didn't even think about not having drake may up there for me he went really early to cormor there um can we do a random uh john sidebar for one second um realistic price point that you should be paying for cell phone and internet per month like you want to just know what i'm what i pay for mine yeah i'm just curious like the u.s discrepancy versus here and whatever i guess my you mine's like a little trickier because it's like family plans number that i have in my head you're talking about jordan tyson and trevion just yourself well it's kind of for the yeah phone for me and internet and tv for household my cell plan and my internet plan are separate so so are mine yeah right and but is it like 100 100 or is it like 200 250 is it like what is it i haven't looked at the bill in forever so mine auto draws mine is like 100 in my i don't have like any we don't have the cable because i have it through youtube tv so it's the okay that that actually juices it pretty good okay um let's see i'm gonna do i'm gonna try to mog i mean i'm just trying to draft the exact same team as did i'm just taking uh chris godwin here did chris godwin's a great pick right now i'm glad that you showed me the light on chris oh yeah we were talking about him you were like where are the bullish i haven't seen anything and then and then you just shoved him right in my face how you like those apples so i said go look on the pewter report yeah and i follow pewter report i'm a huge fan so i can't believe that i didn't see it i was just seeing what i wanted to see clearly uh in terms of the egg bucca bet that i wanted to be real so badly but he's they said he didn't have turf toe now it's like he almost certainly has turf toe uh he has like a little like flat platform not like a boot but he's wearing a shoe at practice that won't allow him to like flex his toe uh but yeah that's interesting uh man chargers just lost their center fuck is that real yeah yeah medical card is out for chargers center tyler uh what how do you pronounce this be at is um close enough who went down after 49ers defensive tackle sebastian valdez fell on his left knee during an 11 v 11 they really are cursed man holy shit that's crazy yeah just a freak just such a freak thing i thought john was trying to do like one of those memes where he's like internet 100 cell phone 100 jordan tyson shares 932 someone help me budget this if i had a beautiful mind like yours pete i i would have done that but i was just genuinely curious are we do i have to find the bottom here for tony pollard come on you fucks i'm not doing it what What's the True Serum Tony Pollard ADP? I just took him at 90. Good with it. 90? Yeah. All right. You can't, you don't get to, that's the new rule. No value, how noise when it's at True Serum ADP. Yeah, yeah, that's the new, that's the new meta. Yeah, you're going to have to adjust. Unless you, you know, you got to get the bash guest to hell no matter what. But that's right. I mean, like, who's got a better chance at breaking BBM? RJ Harvey or Tony Pollard? Harvey. Yeah. Like Blake Corham. Harvey went ahead. Harvey went ahead. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Rico. Yeah. I mean, you probably just want him as a potential standalone as well. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think my definitely Rico over, over Pollard for me. I am. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm trying not to overreact to this single preseason game for the Titans. But like. I mean, every, every site has them as a, you know, bottom two offensive line. That, that, that, that's not, that, that doesn't do anything to make you feel better about the team. Cam Ward was so bad. It's like, I was trying to make excuses for it and, you know, try to make the bullish case for, for him this year. But yeah, I just wish he got off to a better start. I'm going to just try to get a little quarterback upside here. God, I snipe you. Yeah. Unreal. Oh, my bad. No, no, no, you're good. Get, get, you know, I was torn upside. Get your upside. I was torn between Purdy and Knicks and my eyes just gravitated to Knicks. I'm glad, I'm glad you got your upside, man. That's. Purdy's yours though. I don't, I don't need Purdy. I need, I need my, my lines double stack right now. Good. Cause I need Purdy with. CMC. Yeah, that would've been funny if we just snipe, just, just back to back, just cascading effects in front. Yeah. Okay. I'm workshopping a take here and it's dovetails off of me listening to the tail end of your show yesterday, Ness. This is the, the take I've been workshopping is it's more important the players on your left and right, or like the players that quote unquote have position on you. It's more detrimental to your win rate than draft slot is. Yes, a hundred percent. Wait, say that again. So it's like, it's like position in poker with like the button and like how you are supposed to have like an expected loss rate in like the blinds because forced money. And then everything else, as you move towards the button gets more profitable by position. Yeah. So I kind of think like draft slot in that same vein, but with people adjacent to you, not the actual like one-on-one one 12, et cetera. But you, so you mean like the quality of drafter? Yeah. And are you, you're, you're saying like the ability to stay within their lane or if they pass on big ADP values that fall to you, stuff like that. Right. So like the fact that the three of us are drafting, Oh, like in tandem, like this makes each of us incrementally less profitable, but like if I was in the one hole and Shady's in the 12, the closer Shady gets to me, the less profitable might be. my draft is gotcha so yesterday pete perfect example i had the 101 in a best ball mania hooray you should be thrilled you get jameer gibbs one of the best projecting 101s we've had in years right next to me though is lee 121503 and i mean no value whatsoever to me because we're both building the same team we're both starting with elite running backs we both have the same needs every time that we're up on the clock and he gets the better pick every single time so he just crushed me in that room and it was uh he he really just like bullied me he had me in the corner like like he was muhammad ali just like going to work and and totally mogged me in the in that draft and that that was yeah no it's it's especially in the corner right we're like yeah value that that can fall and like yeah no it's just a value suck the um that i feel like that happened yesterday when pat and i were doing the big dog draft uh bp uh dfs grinder was it yeah it was in there using the sidekick it's just like whatever was the top kick for us he was just uh vacuuming that up i think he's sitting in like every big dog right now really every time that i end up going in one i swear he's in it yeah he's sitting in every like 555 as well before too it's crazy and then he's gonna take our shirts in baseball tonight too uh easy baker click for me there with godwin past adp troy wants nez to get a fly swatter i thought nez was doing so nez has been nez has been giving me thumbs up during the draft i thought he was just doing like a big clap of approval yeah on one of the picks uh sorry i just caught up with the board um all right we'll go we'll take a jayden higgins dip damn damn what were you what were you looking for i i think i was actually just confused okay yeah i i thought i was drafting a different team so it's okay i'm living in like three different realities when you're in this many slow drafts and doing this many drafts you you get your wires wires crossed your timelines mixed up i've been pretty adamant with the slows to just do them in like isolated windows like just 40 in a row then wait four hours four hours four hours four hours three in a row like like three like three times a day basically like when i wake up before i go to bed like that sort of thing yeah you gotta like i made sure that my august calendar was super super clear so i could do the amount of volume that i am doing um in a in a way that doesn't you know get in the way of things because it already does what are you daddy someone takes shakir why do i have to have the pollard and shakir falling knives because i'm taking jawan johnson man so it's up to you unreal i mean shakir shakir is just that's just a good pick i know it's just not it's not fun no it's not fun yeah that's not one that you that you're excited about but but i on a team where i have tate and casey concepcion uh i i need shakir there yeah he's a nice he's he's a nice backbill a nice little chaperone to the to tack on to this team i did just look at the i don't know if we mentioned this we were doing the probably not because it's it's new but i did throw in the etr ranks and tyrone tracy who eggers just took at 142 etr has raked at 214 uh so good job eggers wow tracy yeah 214 after the nausea signing and the blown pass protection wow but eggers congratulations on your uh six picks at adp value brother i mean speaking of adp like um the uh dice uh ready to go the jawan johnson one's like interesting now with the with the uh jordan tyson stuff and then i didn't know about the shower narrative i didn't realize that him and shak played like one year together but i think it was just like a red shirt year for him and shakir shak but it's just crazy that they overlapped at all because he's been in the league for like six years i think this is like juan johnson's like 60 years i was gonna say like with shak like the the like older upperclassmen like taking him under his wing like uh you know showed him the ropes and that's why he had such a strong connection shak age joke taking him around campus the old guy uh-huh yeah i didn't know that but yeah no that's it's totally like a tyson thing and just i was taking juan before the tyson injury too so it was cool i was i'm such a hipster um my team is so dependent on cam ward being good that i'm taking cam ward that's probably good that's probably a good call tate and pollard i mean he has to be he has to pay off adp 150 for this team to be anything borat passes on sam darnold so i will take that uh brady keenan did not go yet we are we are in prime can you guys keep it down i'm just engaging with the chat am i not allowed to engage with the youtube members on my channel no don't put that on john's radar my alpha to be honest i was thinking about it right there but then i decided to do the tight end because when i look to the right these guys only had one each i mean what did what a 24 hours for me to be honest i was thinking about it right there but then i decided to do the tight end but then i decided to do the tight end because when i looked to the right these guys only had one each i mean what a what a 24 hours for me to be honest i was thinking about it right there but then i decided to do the tight end because when i looked to the right these guys only had one each i mean what a 24 hours for Yeah. had to simply had to had to do it yeah like Ryan Flournoy or Keenan Allen like what are we doing god damn it man you're ruining my life guy who earns targets at like a top 10 wide receiver rate on a team that doesn't have any wide receivers no all right I'm gonna go Jalen McMillan here sorry Pete it's all right I'm more of a Ted Hurst guy myself um I mean I was doing the mega bullish uh Jacoby Lane stuff earlier let's uh put our money where our mouth is there we go it definitely feels like a pretty a pretty fine selection there 162 yeah yeah so I have a question for you guys this is sort of like random but like in terms of these rookies I'm specifically the rookies that I'm thinking about in in this question would be like Dejohn Stribling and uh and Jacoby Lane how many times this season do you think both of them score less than four underdog fantasy points this episode is brought to you by Michelob Ultra even if you're a pro or just in it for fun the moment you play for Michelob Ultra everything changes the focus the game gets real every point every move suddenly means something more because a superior light beer is on the line superior is worth playing for Michelob Ultra superior light beer find it near you at MichelobUltra.com enjoy responsibly copyright 2026 Anheuser-Busch Michelob Ultra light beer St. Louis Missouri this message is brought to you by apple card shave ice by 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right yeah it's like non-usable weeks effectively but they're out there for because when you say four it really paints a football picture that people don't think about right now when they're just watching highlight real stuff and rose-colored glasses it means you don't score a touchdown which your team's only going to score 40 offensive touchdowns a year so that makes sense and then it's like you get what 25 yards and two catches yeah like two for 37 like yeah something like that yeah scoring yeah yeah you know like um for a wide receiver for a wide receiver three who plays 65 percent of snaps like that's what we're playing on showdown games yeah and of course it's best ball so we're not really trying to like factor that that's not trying to drive our decisions based on you know how many times these guys are going to suck but right i guess the next question would be like who's so it sounds like you guys think like stribling is less likely to hit you know four less than than jacoby lane and i think that's like a pretty interesting conversation that's one yeah which is why you're having to pay more of a premium for stribling um because i think there's a little bit more of a floor there yeah just in terms of like the pass rate and draft capital yeah i think that that's fair but i do think stripping is going to have a fair amount of like not use non-usable games and i'm just not so sure that that's like like i think at his price i think he's like absolutely peaked and i'm not so sure that he's going to be able to do that should go over uh debo but i get it um i i certainly think that we are a little over our skis on stripling yeah i think you're right like he's still fifth and targets on the on on the niners behind kittle behind cmc behind evans um and uh behind behind debo arguably yeah the nice thing i can say about stripling juxtaposed to lane is like we're not just looking at looking for like wide receiver wide receiver to like red zone hunting output like he's in line blocking right and they like him as a blocker so like that gets you on the field i want to take gatson i wanted um uh what's his nuts to come back but money where mouth is gatson had 690 yards as a rookie smart rational coaching will find a way to put the ball in his hands at some point yeah all right nez gets his stack i get my stack everybody's go finally finally we can all we just play nice all right uh yeah i have a three four seven two cook and what are your guys's builds right now i'm at a uh three four six three so this is another type of build that i really uh enjoy doing i'm obviously done at quarterback i am done at tight end i'm not shy to do four tight ends and then now i kind of have to do four tight ends and then i'm not shy to do four tight ends kind of have some optionality to go three five seven three or three four eight three with the way that my team started yeah and your boy probably shutting it down four running backs but though i might have one uh two quarterbacks four running backs seven wide receivers three tight ends probably done at tight end i will do a four quarterback build here if bryce young comes back to me i think i'll do it wait hold on let me see if i can do it let me see your room let me see your room you have bo nicks baker bayfield cam ward oh brother i have ted aroya come on come on as much as i would love to see this oh my god it's like you enjoy ted hurst came off he was in my queue oh shit oh come on borat you have a chance to do the funniest thing ever i have two week 10 buys bo nicks and baker i can't just rely on cam ward you can't go to war for one week with four qb build my i believe my first four qb build let's get it oh my god sign up for the peak kick oh man all right kick four tight end build with bo nicks and baker on it let's get it i'm gonna believe in in jeremy bernard believe in something uh i think uh i want to take the doll you have a charger thing going you have you have gadsden i got gadsden okay oh no nez you're not gonna like the latest underdog news report after our last draft wait wait what happened qj lower body limped off practice field on tuesday yeah not what the chargers like is that the real club station over there my god uh-huh yeah they're they're playing on some some sort of like ancient burial ground for sure because what what the hell hey at least i got trey harris on that team the dog's so cool you just i i do like him the pit vipers oh shit we got it i gotta scroll for somebody oh this is a layup pick come on down oh man i'm gonna do a fancy zero here too i'm gonna do a not so fancy zero here why take 48 fantasy points from calvin ridley when you can have zero from ty felton wait dude hand bone slappy mentioned they're doing a joint practice with the niners today are the chargers at the substation dude unreal look at this look at these okay i want to just marvel at the last three picks that this trio just made john grabs ty felton nez takes naji harris and i select not uh darren waller i mean just just round of applause fellas and on your four quarterback team you take darren waller how many how many how many teams in bbm will have bryce young as part of a four qb builds double stack with ted arroy mcmillan and darren waller i think i can confidently say none don't do me bros don't do me also big shot shout out to quid pro quo 39 33 10 gifted memberships very nice of you if you guys receive one of these from quid pro please let him know thank you and you can join us for the bash uh tomorrow afternoon as well you guys also need to be subscribed to the badge bros channel i believe people were asking earlier in the chat are you guys running anything today uh baseball uh right after this just let me uh refill my cups and then probably rip 45 minutes on baseball beautiful had a fun one yesterday where uh we were talking about or john was talking about i was the comments here and there about getting off the chalk yesterday how do we you know what do we do how do you play is it smart and then the chalk destroyed yesterday just absolutely demolished and then they win uh yeah swept the podium yeah on on on stream the exact words were if it's a chalk night a win wins log off and a win win many many such cases uh these days all right let's do uh let's do a quick recap of these uh crazy squads we just drafted and uh then we'll let john get to the good stuff is that maybe he's only john or for for the masses yeah maybe maybe he's only today yeah gotta make good and he's only yeah make sure you guys are youtube members over there on the badge bros channel i have it hyperlinked i believe in the description there so you guys can click over there and become a member you get access to a ton of great content and i'll see you guys in the next video bye of members only streams we'll also be doing football tomorrow after you're done the bash there with uh dave dave's gonna come on and talk about a new tool he's been working on yeah i saw that uh that hit the uh the twitter timeline i quickly gave that a follow excited to have that in the mix it immediately went on my priority list that i use for uh writing the newsletter and all that stuff awesome stuff excited to talk with him about that all right here it is the rare 4473 build from your boy bo nicks and nez is gonna tilt the bo nicks snipe even more knowing i ended up with bryce young as my fourth quarterback uh bo nicks baker bayfield cam ward bryce young uh james cook devon achan bashell tootin and tony pollard uh ted arroy mcmillan carnell tate chris godwin casey concepcion khalil shakur jacoby lane and pat bryant and then three tight ends trey mcbride kate otten and yes my first share of darren waller this year what did you think of that? what did you guys cook up uh i went with a 3573 shout out to buck saint thomas he has the the trademark on on this build if you do use it you have to pay him royalties uh yep yeah i got yelled at yesterday uh 3573 with jared goff sam darnold and aaron rogers all stacked up uh bryce hall deandre swift trevion henderson jaylen warren and naji harris wide receivers are aminara saint brown a.j brown courtland sutton jacoby myers jayden higgins jaylen mcmillians and then jeremy bernard uh finished with sam laporta juwan johnson and a.j barter i like this team i mean yeah good strong solid formation uh the old 3573 hard to go wrong exciting whites all stacked up like yeah it's just like a rock solid you know mean projection darling and what did you pretend that wasn't derogatory yeah derogatory hey hey the truce has been hitting your boy today a little woozy at the end of this got a little bit of the lean on uh 2583 here purdy and kyler uh cmc barkley kyron price shut it down until the last round come on even all upside swing garrett wilson dj moore jayden reed jordan addison debo samuel keenan allen tank dell and then the fanciest zero of them all ty felton getting a little buzz people don't want to know that that's the jacoby lane before jacoby lane uh in ty felton and then jake ferg uh brenton strange and ironde gadsen who everybody's so scared of 690 yards in his rookie season uh the people don't want to admit it nobody wants to say it out loud but i fucking cooked you did you did death death taxes and just always feeling like you drafted a shipper uh actually that's not true there's there's definitely it doesn't feel good but uh you're normally on an island of just being like yeah man i fucking crushed that i will say i was just curious as i was naming this team i scrolled back to the earliest team we drafted on stream it was april 28th with dank and some absolute monster clv on this team jonathan brooks at 137 uh back in the day oh wow back in the day yeah that's that's sick yeah this team it's it's fun it has uh it's cmc swift at 56 remandre at 80 jonathan brooks at 137 it has london chris alave garrett wilson godwin mcmillan it's a big baker stack also jason daniel stack has pits at 104 chick at 152 k dot and that 200 is a pretty sick deep holy shit that is nuts yeah memory serves nez was uh vacationing for the dank episode so uh yeah it all adds up pete yeah no wonder you guys finally got a shipper i'm willing john and i kind of talked about it and we're willing to give you somewhere from one to two fifty percent yeah just a little wet your beak from the looking glass just yeah uh good stuff shout out to the chat thank you again to quid pro quo for the gift actually asterix shout out to everybody in the chat except eggers have fun with that tyrone tracy at one for you too bro uh that's gonna age like a fine wine uh tomorrow i am doing a huge like variety hour because i'm traveling thursday so i'm mashing up a bunch of shows so we'll kick off at 10 a.m uh cups is going to go through some data with me i'll do a solo draft jiri is coming on for a bbm draft uh around 11 then we'll have chris harris randomizer which a lot of people are excited about as am i and then we'll do a couple of bass drafts so we'll have a mega stream uh tomorrow looking forward to that and then tomorrow night pat and i joined by ben gretch and sean siegel for an ffpc main event draft over on ship chasing sweet good lineup yeah you are loaded this week uh what about you guys you mentioned mlb today uh rest of the week what do you guys got running yeah we had dave tomorrow for football it may overlap with the tail end of bash but we'll see um and then uh yeah and then probably a lot of just football and a little bit of multi-sport stuff on thursday and friday gonna get some puck and basketball mixed in here at some point probably membies only but we shall see but a lot of football for us as well uh usual time slot 2 p.m eastern i will uh is that one is that one scheduled uh not yet i'll send it to you later yeah send it to me because i'll i'll probably just be wrapping up around like 2 15 or whatever so i'll i'll get the raid going uh for you guys over there uh awesome if 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