What the Quran Gets Wrong About Jesus | Shahriq Khan (EP 216)

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Energy for everything. Visit TXU.com for more information. Rep number 10004. My life was infinitely better as a Muslim. I would have inherited my dad's seven-figure business. I would have married an amazing girl who I was totally in love with. People don't understand the cost of leaving Islam, bro. You lose your family, your connections. You lose your network. You lose your boys. I eventually would break up with my girlfriend who was a Muslim. That was heartbreaking, dude. I lived in my car for two months. For the next two years, despite leaving Islam, I never let Christ into my life. I became super suicidal. I never had those thoughts when I was Muslim. When I started following Christ, they really started hitting me hard. Allah, please save me. Why is my mind letting me down? I'm so numb and I don't care about myself. My lowest moment, I reverted to Islam. I said, Allah, you come save me. And that was the night that I met Christ for the first time. Oh my gosh. What was that like? Hey, before we get into today's episode, I want to share two quick things with you. First, if these videos have meant anything to you, if they've encouraged your faith or helped you see the gospel a little bit more clearly, I just want to ask you to subscribe. A lot of people tune in every single week and haven't hit the button yet. It only takes two minutes. And it helps us keep putting these conversations in front of people who need them. And the second thing, this one I've honestly been really excited to say, I'm officially announcing our ministry's biggest live event to date, Open Heaven Live Podcast Tour. It's happening November 8th this year at the Pavilion at Toyota Music Factory in Irving, Texas. This is going to be a night centered around worship, faith, real conversations, and genuine community. I believe God is going to move in a powerful way, and I would love for you to be in the room. Tickets are on sale right now. You can head to BryceCrawford.org slash tour or just click the link in the description. And please, only get your tickets through my official site or that link below. I recommend not buying from random resellers online. I believe this is going to be a really special night, and I hope to see you there. All right, let's get into the episode. What's going on, guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Bryce Crawford Podcast. I'm Bryce, and today we have an incredible guest on here, someone that I thoroughly enjoy learning from. We have Shark Khan on the podcast. Dude, Mr. Bryce Crawford, bro. This is an honor. Oh, dude. Dude, I love you, man. This is so special. Well, I love you, bro. This genuinely means the world to me. Dude, I learn from you so much. So kind of how I found out about you was I've been diving into the Muslim stuff and Islam for a little over a year, trying to get in there. And then I started noticing that I was getting a few things slightly incorrect. And then that's when I discovered your content and discovered all the work that you're doing. So if y'all don't know Shark, he basically has this free evangelism school for Islam. Used to be a Muslim. We're going to get into his story. I'm in the school and I learn on the videos and the master key. We're going to get into all of it. But if you guys want to learn more about Islam, if you look in the description, it's literally free to join his school. I've been so blessed by it. I want you guys to be a part of it. So thank you for all the resources. Dude, it's an honor to be here, man. There's a lot of voices out there on Islam. Like, what is it? How do we critique it? And the difference is, like, I just came out of it. And so I really just try to be charitable. I try to understand it for what it is. I try not to, like, strawman it or be weak at it. And so that school is just a fruit of that, man. So I'm happy that you're in it, bro. We got to get the strong men to evangelize and lock arms on this. Yes. And I was stoked. Oh, dude. Well, thank you. Well, I'm excited to learn. And I also have these cowboy boots on that Shara gave me. So if you are watching and you're wondering why I have these cowboy boots on with no pants, it's because I had no idea and was not planning on wearing cowboy boots today. But here we are. Dude, you can't be in Dallas and not have the ostrich boots on. It's mission critical, bro. And they look great on you, by the way. Bro, they, like, feel high quality. They're really amazing. So thank you so much. Dude, it's a joy, bro. It's a course. Dude, I want to, like, kind of backtrack a little bit. So you grew up Muslim in New York. Yeah. Tell me what that was like. Dude, it was surreal. I didn't understand a lot of it until I, you know, I kind of reflected back on it. But I always start the story with my dad. So my dad is actually one of 17. And he grew up in Pakistan. Right? Yeah. One of 17 children. Yeah. So he has nine brothers, five sisters, and the two parents. Oh, my God. So the family of 17. 17. Yeah. It's a big family. Be fruitful and multiply. Hey, I will say, Muslims know how to have kids. They absolutely do. They know how to have kids. Non-negotiable, man. It's a blessing, right? And so my dad actually, like, he was the golden child in his family. And they had the money, the resources, like, the golden ticket visa to send one kid to America. And he was, like, the middle child. And then he did it. And he was fascinated with America, bro. Like, he loved the train systems and the cities and the infrastructure. And he would come. He would come here when he was 19 years old with $60 in his pocket. This fobby dude, straight off the boat, like, Afro mustache, like, didn't know anything. And he lived, like, the American dream. Like, he came to America. He loved America. He would end up going to college here studying electrical engineering. And he would climb from a taxi cab driver in New York City. Crazy story behind that. That's actually how he met my mom was in the back of one of those cabs. Whoa. He picked her up. It's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, love story, bro. Taxi riz. Taxi riz. Yeah, bro, this is so funny. Like, they turned over. And he's like, where are you going? And she's like, oh, I work at the bank. And he's like, will you help me with my resume? And she's like, no. Like, absolutely not. And they got married and had a car. Yeah. And then months later, my dad picked her up again, which is like, I think that's a miracle. Whoa. In New York culture with, like, hundreds of thousands of cab drivers, like, he picked her up again months later. And he's like, hey, will you help me with my resume? And she's like, sure. Like, this fobby dude with an accent just totally won me over. She's like a New York, like, driving a hot rod. Indian girl. Wow. Yeah, really funny, bro. That's wild. Yeah. So my dad's a savage, apparently. And he won her fast. So he would actually end up, you know, joining her. And she would actually get him a job, actually, at one of the banks. And my dad lived, like, the American dream. And on the back of his Islamic faith, he labored and he worked. And he had a vision for a family. And he would climb to become the SVP of one of the biggest banks in New York. Whoa, that's a big deal. On the tech side. So he's a, yeah, wicked smart. Wow. And he's, he's, he's. He did it from the ground up. And the reason I'm sharing this story is because he actually was in New York City when 9-11 happened. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. And so this is, like, the first defining moment in my life. So September 11, 2001, about three and a half, actually. And some of my first memories, my dad actually saw the second plane hit the Twin Towers with his own eyes. And he was in New York. And he was, like, the floor warden of his company. And so he was responsible for getting everybody off and being safe. And I remember my mom didn't even hear from him for about six hours. And so some of my earliest memories were watching the news and being, like, I mean, I'm, like, running around like a little baby in my den. And I'm looking at the news. And it's, like, what is Islam? Who are these terrorists attacking us? We're in New York. And we're in a city of blue-collar workers. So it's a bunch of cops and firemen and first responders. And when I go to, like, pre-K and kindergarten, I'm treated differently. I'm treated completely differently. This is actually, like, a very niche memory. But I was in kindergarten. And I went to Pakistan for a few weeks. And when I came back, my kindergarten teacher looked at me and said, we were so much happier. We were so much happier without you when you weren't here. What? Yeah, because I was being, like, loud in the classroom. And I was disruptive. And I, like, was wearing, like, a sub-walkermuse for, like, a culture day in kindergarten. And she said that to me. And it was, it, like, hurt me a lot. And that's when I was, like, like, that's when the fear of the Lord, I say, came on my life was when I was, like, three and a half. And then in kindergarten, I was about four or five. Was we were treated differently for being Muslim from the start because it's something we never did. There was, like, a blood guilt on us. And people were so curious about what Islam was. And my earliest identity was, hey. I'm going to be a Muslim. And I remember going to Sunday school all the time and people saying to me, hey, we have to prove to this world this is not what Islam is. And this is your mission in life. This is who you are. This is what you're going to do. You're going to be the smartest kid in your grade. You're going to be the line leader. You're going to be the fastest kid in your grade. Performance mode, like, through the max. And I lived into it for a long time. And that's how we win hearts to Islam. So your faith growing up from that moment became extremely serious to you. Yes. And, okay, so just side question on that. So when you were going to Sunday school, they were like, you have to devote your life to this so that people don't realize Islam is like that. But I guess the American news would say Islam is like that. Totally. So what is the truth? Yeah. So we have to do this at a very high level. We have to understand definitions of terms. Okay. So there's two terms that I really want everyone to know. There's Muslims. And there's Islamists. Okay. Islamists have an extreme political ideology. They believe that Islam and Sharia law should be in every act of government. Those are people who are running the government in the 53 Muslim majority countries. They have political ideologies that truly, when you hear, like, Islam isn't compatible with the West, that's what they're talking about. Most Muslims, especially here in the West, I'm very focused on the Western Muslims just because that's who I was. Super Westernized, like New York and Texas. You know, like, I didn't know Arabic that well. I didn't really, like, understand Islamic culture. I grew up in it, but we're westernized. We've assimilated is a good word for it. that um so then there's muslims and muslims are the ones who follow the quran who believe in muhammad as the last prophet and they 95 of the muslims in my life that i've personally talked to in the last two years alone heavily disagree with the islamist perspective so to group them all as this one ideology well first of all we're taking an ideology and we're projecting it onto people which is not what we should do we should love muslims and we should stand so firmly against islam or anything that's not in the kingdom of christ it's not even funny right so the first thing i say is hey let's take the person away from their ideology like how does christ see the sinners he says the sin in you is what i'm here to cast out right yeah like the sin in you is what's really wrong and he sees people for their highest like he gives them benefit of the doubt he's like i love you as a child of god first and you have this ideology that needs to be ripped through with the gospel wow so that's what i'm saying to most people dang i think i i've definitely had that misconception then for sure like i think i think it's easy to i mean it's easier said than done to be like oh not every muslim is a terrorist right like that would be that would be awful to say like you know every every person is you know anyone that steals as a criminal or whatever you know whatever you want to say but like that i think that has definitely been something that i have been misinformed about but how how i guess then why do you think then muslims are not swayed by the islamists is that because they've assimilated? with the west like if they weren't in the west then they would feel that way as the islamists or yeah it's it's very heavily environment like dependent like it's it's literally how they were raised and how they grew up in what system of beliefs and structures and what they were taught like me being a you know a child of an immigrant so i'm an american citizen i was born you know into america i had a chance to challenge islam with western values and that to me was a blessing because if i was born in a family of 17 in pakistan i look at the indoctrination that i still am loving my dad out of bad ideas ideologies of islam that he i see so clearly in everything he does um i'm like dude i was i was one brother away in his family from that being me and being so indoctrinated by the quran and islam that i would have no way out and so a lot of the issue that i'm seeing and actually i work pretty heavily in politics now too just being in texas it's such a relevant conversation i've had people on the far right come at me for being a fake ex-muslim because they don't even believe that muslims can be saved like they don't even believe that muslims can be saved like they don't even believe that muslims can be saved because they don't even believe that muslims can be saved they don't like muslims so much that me as a born-again believer who i have a cross tattoo on my hand and by the quran's own theology if you leave islam and then you bring people out of the truth of islam like you're going to the bottom part of hell like you're screwed you're the worst kind of muslim yeah so i'm like even if i am a fake ex-muslim like i'm really bad at doing that yeah like i'm super christian like come on guys let's wake up like i run a giant muslim ministry what are we doing guys anyways but there's ideas out there that we just have to challenge and the easiest way to do that is just to talk to people and actually get that experience yourself because 99 of the muslims i've talked to here in dfw stand so firmly against terrorism stand so firmly against different hadiths that are political or enforce certain ideas which i don't even want to go into because i don't use the moral critique at all um and it's just it's not who they are well that's what actually one of my favorite things about you is like i'm not gonna lie from an outsider in even if you don't know anything about islam and you hear i'm not gonna lie from an outsider in even if you don't know anything about islam and you hear you know you read bakari and you know the stuff with aisha like yeah it is polarizing like it is extremely polarizing if you if you read that if you if you look at more like the moral side of things but i that was something that i had to repent of with the lord of going like like yeah it's polarizing and it makes you go what the heck like this is crazy and you just want to like say it and rip it and then after you rip the band-aid on you're like i'm actually not planting seeds i'm just like for lack of better terms i'm just frustrating muslims and uh and that was something like i had to repent of was like i i'm not planting a seed i'm just like actually frustrating someone and uh i i got to say that to neon which was like i bet he appreciated that which was super fun um and yeah yeah so like that was one of the things and also too about avoiding the moral argument if you're only using the quran you're reaching every sect of islam right not like sunni is 80 ish not it's 90 is about 1.8 billion of them and then the shiites 10 yeah so like they're they're quran only right they would they would reject most of the hadith yeah so so it's like it doesn't matter if you don't point to the moral argument you can just use the quran on all of them yeah and you know let me let me take you one step further because it's not only that it's the goal of the gospel is to make disciples who make disciples and i'm gonna say this very virtual things i say is i don't know a single devout muslim or real muslim who was actually fully convinced to leave islam by that argument alone because when i had that argument i would go to my sheikh or my imams or my scholars and where i was discipled they didn't even believe that she was nine they had a whole like 600 page phd thesis on her being between the ages of 12 and 19 based on like hadith sciences and critiques of of all the hadith and lurking at historical stuff of her family of like how old her sister was when they died and there's so much overwhelming evidence that like i can say this is a very controversial thing but i think it's a very controversial thing with a clear heart i don't even know if she was nine i'm like kind of 50 50 on it but the whole point is if somebody does leave islam because of a moral critique like that they're definitely not going to be equipped enough to go back to their family and their mosque and their people and then disciple their own family out of that and that's my biggest issue with it is it's so easy to just say that but it's i don't think it's that effective at converting muslims to christianity and i definitely don't think it's effective for discipleship into christ and the issue is if you have a moral critique to bring somebody out of islam then they're going to look then they're going to look at the morals of the bible and they're not going to see the bible as an authority because you're using a secular westernized argument to lead a muslim out of islam well like they're going to look at everything that way like the bible the thing we need to do is make the bible their authority in their lives and the way that we do that with the master key which you know we'll dive into is we only use the bible and the quran to deconstruct the quran that way we don't understand that the bible is the new source of truth yeah because yeah calling khan muhammad a pedophile like that's not effective i don't think it is and the muslims will get it might be effective for non-muslims totally like if i'm like wow yeah that you that is crazy and uh yeah you know you know i i it definitely is interesting i got to sit down with sam shamoon which he's like very passionate about islam and you know things like that and he went down like i don't know how he has like engraved in his brain but it's like he has commentaries like muslim commentaries engraved in his brain he's like pulling this commentary and this is why it confirms this and i'm just like you are a internet database for islamic sources and i don't understand it is wild hey before we keep going i want to take a second for today's sponsor upside there are things you spend money on every single week no matter what gas groceries and eating out those are just part of life what changes when you have upside is that you are earning cash back on all of them it's completely free you open the app find an offer pay with whatever card you already use and the cash back goes straight to your bank account no points no credits that disappear actual cash back and i'll say the way i use it now checking before i fill up before i go out to eat before i do my grocery run it doesn't feel like an extra step anymore it just feels automatic i'm already pulling up the app before i even pull into the gas station i use this and i'll say the way i use it now checking before i do my 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that i have for you um later on but but before we kind of get to all that with your is with you being in a muslim family passionate about your faith was islam actually something you really believed or was it just an identity thing so the answer was i loved islam and i had no doubt that it was true and it was everything it was culture like it was my family it was my mentors of doctors and lawyers like wicked smart muslims i had a muslim girlfriend that i was dating that i was ready to marry and we're going to build a family on faith it was the driver behind everything i did and i had like i loved my life like my life this is one thing i tell a lot of muslims who accuse me of just like doing this for clout i'm like my life was infinitely better as a muslim like i would have inherited my dad's seven-figure business i would have married an amazing girl who i was totally in love with but just super unyields with i would have still had all my best friends from high school my friends are getting married right now and like sometimes i kind of skip the wedding because i'm like super anxious because i'm going in a room of 400 muslims who know what i do and i've been in those rooms before and it's like not the best environment like i'm just like like they know that i am actively doing my line of work yeah which is against islam yeah and so i tell people that i'm like dude i have i have no motive to actually be christian other than this just being completely true true. Wow. And when you were in college, you were basically like a Muslim apologist. Loved it. You pulled 60 people away from Christianity. Probably more. Oh my goodness. Probably more, man. Okay. So, so yeah, let me tell you that story, man. So I get to college and being a Muslim growing up, like you have this chain of command in your life where if you have a question, you ask your parents and then they ask their moms and then they ask the shakes and you don't ever really break that. Like if anything, any issue, any dispute in your life, any question, you go to the mosque. So going to college was the first time that I ever got challenged on any beliefs. And I realized that most people at my college were not Muslim. And I'm spending my whole life thinking, you know, was I ever the most devout Muslim? No. Was I the most educated Muslim? No. Was I the smartest guy on the block? No. But I had the fear of God, fear of Allah, I guess, on my life and it drove me. And so what I was doing was I was always engaging with people in the, the central square of UT Dallas, went to UT Dallas to very like, you know, very liberal, very Muslim school now. And I was talking to all the Muslim guys and they were really devout in their faith. And so I ended up saying, you know, I'm getting to college and I'm like, you know, I grew up in Islam, but I kind of want a different life. I ended up joining a fraternity and I ended up climbing to become a fraternity president. And during that climb to become a fraternity president, I started engaging my Christian friends and the guys at parties. And I was known for like, we would drink and go to parties and I would start bringing up a faith and be like, so why do you believe in Christianity? Because I started getting obsessed with apologetics. And one thing about me was it was so painful for me to question my faith. I don't say this a lot actually, but it was so painful for me to like question my faith that I'd go out drinking with the fraternity guys and then I'd come home. And because I was drunk, I had like the lowered inhibition to actually just like research against Islam and try to like look at it. So most of my debates and apologetics I studied and obsessed with, I actually had to like, you know, what's the word? Like inebriate myself. - Yeah. - To actually process the fact, cause I just didn't, I couldn't, I didn't want to challenge. I hated challenging it. And I would challenge my friends about Christianity. I would use examples that all Muslims use today. And I just wanted good reasons for what I believed in, man. And so what I noticed was I was so insecure in my Muslim faith that I was constantly, every time there was like a Bible study, I'd be like, nah, dude, like let's hit the, let's do something else. Let's go to a sorority mixer. Let's go hit the, let's go to the gym. Let's do something else. And eventually I was just kind of playing these seeds that I did it subconsciously. I was bringing so many guys into the room. So many guys away from their faith and they knew I was this Muslim guy, but I was still living a double life. Like I was Muslim, but I was so deep in sin and I was condemning myself because you know, in Islam, you have to repent. That's, it's a repentance culture. We'll dive into that in the theology. And I was repenting and praying and I just slowly lost conviction and I stopped practicing in college. - Wow. - Yeah. But I still knew the arguments and I was like, Christianity is definitely not true. - Now being a Christian and looking back and knowing that you pulled people away, like how, how have you been, how have you dealt with that? - Dude, it's heavy, bro. It's really heavy, bro. It's a, it was one of the things that I just felt so guilty of because, dude, it weighs on you, bro. Like you look at some of the boys and like being fraternity president, I actually take a lot of responsibility. I was like, some of those guys still have alcohol addictions. Some of those guys still haven't reached their potential. And I was educating them and leading them. And I was so degenerately against Christianity until, you know, I actually would come to Christ in college and might have my first encounter. But I feel horrible about it. And I repent and it's like the dealt boys at UTD, man. Like, I love you guys. If you guys are seeing this, call me. I'd love to call you too. We'd love to talk to you guys and talk about how serious faith is, bro. - So have you talked to any of them? - Yeah. - Okay. - Yeah. Tons of them. Tons of them. - That's amazing. - I run into them all the time and they're like, wow, dude, like I came to Christ too. And like, it's amazing. I see them at church sometimes. I'm like, that's awesome. - Dude, praise God. - I got to go back. I want to go back so badly and I'll be doing a lot of campus ministry at UTD the next few years. - So when did you start questioning Islam? - Yeah, it was probably about 2018. - Okay. - 2018, and this is an amazing story. It was when I was a fraternity president at this time and my fraternity vice president was like my drinking buddy and we'd hang out all the time. He radically comes to Christ. He's like a 6'5" baseball player, total stud, bro. This dude's an animal. His name is Aaron. So Aaron all of a sudden comes to Christ really hard in the middle of all this fraternity degenerate nonsense. And he's my vice president so I'm super yoked with him and we're like doing all this work together and I'm like, "Dude, there's something different about this guy." Like he went from a fraternity guy to finding an amazing woman of God and being like, "I'm not even going to kiss her until marriage," and they got married super fast and she was a beautiful, loving, like woman of God, like amazing community. And I saw that and I was like, "I want that." I was like, "Dude, there's something so different about you." And that was the first time in my life I saw somebody's heart radically change because of this gospel thing. And the truth is, is that was all I've ever wanted in my whole life. Like I found so much joy and purity and it got ripped away from me in college. I love being pure and sinless and like happy and holy and like unjaded and it was just getting ripped away from me and I was like, "That's not who I am, man. That's not how I grew up. That's not how I was raised. That's not my family values." You know, we were taught in Islam that we found so much joy in purification and sanctification. We loved it. We loved it. And we had a real fear of God. So when that happened, I really looked into it and I started looking at all the debates and all the apologetics. I was reading, you know, Nabeel Qureshi's books. I read that when I was Muslim twice. My family actually threw it away because they didn't want me reading that nonsense. Seeking the law. Finding Jesus. And then he has like another one on like jihad and stuff. Yeah, answering jihad. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I really wish he was still alive today, man. Yeah, I think he died from pancreatic cancer or something like that, which is like. At the age of, I think, 34. Yeah, he was a beast. Great stuff online. Yeah, monster in the face. Didn't mean to cut you off there. No, no. Yeah. Great guy. Amazing guy. Yeah. And so, here's what happens. Let me cut to some of the good stuff. So I go to a really emotional Christian conference, Stumo Conference at New Year's, right? Into 2020. And huge altar call. Like, if you want to give your life to Christ, stand up. And it's a stadium. I think Jonathan Pecluda is preaching at this time. And I see literally like 25,000 college kids all stand up and start like cheering. And I'm sitting there. I'm the only guy in the entire arena who's sitting down. Like, I am not giving a shit. I'm giving my life to Christ. This is ridiculous. Wow. But eventually, I'm like, dude, if all these people are so passionate about it, and I'm not just seeing Muslims anymore, I'm seeing like Korean people, and white people, and Mexican guys, and brown guys, and like Canadians, and Swedish people, all of them are like unified under this banner of Christ in this conference, and I'm like, okay, if this Christ thing is true, like I haven't given it a full shot, I'm going to try. So I stand up, and everyone's looking at me like, whoa. Like Shark just stood up at a conference to give his life to Christ. And I talked to my fraternity vice president about it, and he's like, wow, and he showed me a note on their like billboard that this entire ministry at UT Dallas was praying for me for years for me to come to Christ, and that he was laboring for me. And I was like, whoa, this is amazing. What happens next sucked. I call it headhunting. It's headhunting for salvation, getting the number, and then leaving because I wasn't in a church. I wasn't discipled, and I was a Muslim, and people don't understand the cost of leaving Islam, bro. Yeah. You lose your family. You lose your connections. You lose your boys, because you want to talk about this newfound faith you have, but you can't prove it just yet, like you're such a new baby believer, and I got lost. They didn't invite me out to churches enough, which is my fault, too. I should have taken initiative, but I preach this a lot. If you're going to be engaging Muslims, if you're going to be evangelizing Muslims, bro, this is for you, too. Don't evangelize Muslims unless you're willing to be the thing they lost, like unless you're willing to be the couch that they can crash on, which I needed to do. I lived in my car for two months, unless you're willing to be the friends that they lose, the family they lose, the girlfriend, not that you're going to be the girlfriend for who they lose, but there's a lot of cost that people don't understand when you're leaving an indoctrinated cult. It happens with every other cult, as well. If you're a Jehovah's Witness, they lose a lot. If you're Mormon, they probably lose even more, being so westernized and Americanized, and they still leave that, as well. So I always preach that. I'm like, don't, like, maybe don't engage unless you're willing to actually make disciples. Like, don't make Christians, bro. Make disciples. That's the most important mission we're on. Wow. And so I lost that, and so for the next two years, despite leaving Islam I never let Christ into my life. I didn't know what discipleship was. I didn't have a Bible. I didn't have a pastor to walk with. I had nothing. Dude, so you were just kind of in this, like, weird middle ground of, like, all right, I said I was going to start following Jesus, but there wasn't real structural follow-through or anything like that. Wow. You know what that leads to, bro? Wow. Yeah. Because you had lost everything without gaining—yeah, my buddy David, who, like, is obsessed with Islam, he always says that. He's like, you know, if you don't—if they lose their family and they don't find that family in a church family, you know, they—it makes someone who was Muslim or someone who is interested in deconverting from Islam not interested if they don't have that substitute of going, "I'm going to lose everything I have and then, what, I'm just going to stand in this weird middle ground?" So how long did you battle with suicide? Dude, so I never had those thoughts when I was Muslim. When I followed—started—started following Jesus. Two years. So two years, and, like, I'm just a random kid, man. Like, imagine—imagine, like, Sneeko or Neon or, like, Tate, Andrew Tate coming to Christ. I pray they do a lot, bro. I really want them to. They would face 500 times more backlash than I ever did. Like, I just got—my family had a really emotional reaction. It was very hard. Lots of crying. Lots of tears. You know, I had to step away from my family for a bit just to process everything. I lost a lot of friends. I eventually would break up with my girlfriend, who was a Muslim. So for two years, I ended up just self-sabotaging. like i feel bad i genuinely feel bad for anybody in their life that does not have christ like i don't know how in the world you navigate business and travel and relationships and experiences and friendships yeah without christ especially if you're muslim and you don't have christ i'm like dude i my heart breaks for you i'm like i don't know how you're living in this crazy world man without faith like if you're muslim you have some faith and like some like assurance salvation sure but to be not with christ i mean that's why i'm on the mission i'm on like people need this i needed it it healed me yeah so i mean i want to read you this bro this was november 1st of 2022 and this was actually the night that i was ready to take my own life um i prayed this prayer and it's in my notes and it says it was 121 a.m so it's probably after like a halloween party or something like november 1st 1 a.m it says this it says allah please save me why is my mind letting me down i'm so numb and i don't care about myself why can't i get my mind right every day so painful every moment is so harsh i can't relax anymore i can't see clearly anymore i can't enjoy the smallest things anymore why have i done this to myself please help and that was when i was most suicidal after leaving islam two years prior and i hadn't let christ into my life yet and what did i do in that night i reverted to islam because i didn't know christ yet so in my darkest pit of hell moment where my brain hurts and dude i had like 40k of personal debt because i wasn't letting my family support me because it came with all these other things and i was like oh my god i'm so numb support me because it came with all these like just be muslim and we'll give you money kind of like a subconscious deal there yeah and i wanted to start a business because i realized i couldn't rely on my family anymore yeah um that business was like i made like five figures my first month and then i made like negative three grand the next like seven months and so i was like in 40k of personal debt i had the banks calling me from 8 a.m to 8 p.m every single day i was waking up at 8 p.m taking an adderall and like going to the gym at 3 a.m and then like going to bed back at 8 a.m just they were calling me 40 times a day and i had no answer for them i was like dude i'm screwed so you lose your identity you lose your your job because it's not enough for you and you lose everything bro and you i became super suicidal and in my lowest moment i reverted to islam i said allah you come save me and that was the night that i met christ for the first time whoa yeah bro he got me oh my gosh what was that like okay so i'm like i'm in my high school bedroom now which is like my parents i love them so much for this they saw me struggling they didn't agree with me i was like they still gave me my room back because i was broke um but i didn't talk to them at all but i'm in my high school bedroom and i'm sitting there and my head is pounding and i have like horrible acne and like i'm just like i read that prayer on my phone i just tossed it to the side and i pass out like i wasn't in the church i didn't have a pastor i didn't have anybody walking me through it was me and god in my worst moment and i have like this this dream or this vision i i still can't like i don't know what exactly it was but it was like a white flash that night and i didn't like it wasn't like christ like coming to me and like touching me but i just in the dream like i don't know if i really heard it in the dream or if it was after but i hear the words when i wake up it's in my soul all i'm hearing on repeat is get up and go for you have been healed get up and go for you have been healed get up and go for you have been healed and i only recognize those words from the gospels because my fraternity vice president was like shoving the gospels down my throat without my consent um reading the gospel out of water burger discipling me and i recognize that's christ so this decision i made two years ago i'm like wait christ christ christ christ and for the first time in my in maybe three months i was gonna say my life for the first time in three months i jumped out of bed happy wow and that was the first time i felt christ's grace on me and i like i hugged my mom super tight she's like what the f is wrong with you bro i don't want to curse i'm trying to sanctify myself with that um the grass is greener the breakfast tasted so good the eggs that morning were delicious the pool water was great i got 40k of debt the bank up i'm like let's fix this thing and then the next four months i'm not saying prosperity gospel but like doors open for me that i couldn't have opened myself and i clue the debt in like four months my business just takes off i'm running like a marketing agency at the time and like all of a sudden in four months i'm sitting in my new dallas apartment and my life is completely 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actually use energy discover how much more you could save with free nights and cool summer txu energy energy for everything visit txu.com for more information rep number one zero zero zero four now in that dark moment before having this dream did you ever become an atheist after leaving islam i couldn't i couldn't um i would study a lot of atheist arguments against christianity and i would look at like their highest level of argument as an atheist was we're pretty much all we all have subjective morality and there's really no purpose to this life and we're just essentially bags of meat and bone with no soul and we should just kill ourselves now because like who cares like we're dead in 20 years or 80 years what's the difference if the timeline's so big so atheism to me was like radical i was agnostic and i think i would have lived that life a lot easier if i had been an atheist i would have lived that life a lot easier like i was kind of wait and see yeah but it still wasn't enough so what did those next few years look like after having this dream getting like out of like these physical situations getting out of your parents home who you they're muslim yeah you're following jesus you get out of debt your business you're in the new apartment what are those next few years look like yeah well i want to share one one more quick story with you because i actually haven't shared this publicly um the next week was my friend's birthday and we had this trip to brazil plan that i couldn't afford for some reason i'm like the lord is like i really feel like i need to go to brazil i've been in my house for so long my mom comes in my room and gives me it's a thing in muslim culture you give your mom your first paycheck as like a blessing like i'm giving this to you so that i'll never have to worry about financials ever again my mom knocks on my door and says hey i really feel like i need to give you this paycheck back and i gave it to her three years prior and it's 3100 and it's like the exact amount i need to get to brazil and like go through my buddies my buddies are gonna help me out too so i go to brazil which is crazy to do with like your last dollar is being 40k in debt and we're like we need to go see this christ the redeemer statue and there was a storm that day and our plan got canceled and i told my friends i was like guys we need to go see this christ statue no matter what like i have to see it like the lord was pulling me into that i don't know why we get on the last bus the storm stops for like 30 minutes and we get on this last bus up the mountain of the christ statue in rio and there's nobody there which like if you know that statue there's like tons of people tons of people statue like thousands of tourists it's a wonder of the world it's a wonder of the world yeah and i am there alone with like three of my buddies looking at this christ the redeemer statue and i look out to brazil and i see him and that was a week after i was suicidal and i said like this is the christ the christ made this world and he's blessing this country and like the millions of people in rio look to him every day and i'm like that was my physical encounter i'm like i was walking towards it for like some b-roll like footage yeah my arm started raising and i couldn't help it i was like the lord is so good and that's when i went all in wow so yeah bro i mean that's statue is beautiful it was the most mesmerizing thing i've seen in my entire life i've never seen it in person but i've seen just tons of videos and pictures like it it looks it's beautiful bro you gotta go so after that moment you kind of went on these years of yeah what just what did that moment yeah like after so so two main events happened after that and then i'll kind of land the plane okay so i'm just a good boy khaki pant wearing christian for the next two years i'm like you know what i'm gonna learn this thing i'm gonna get plugged in i'm gonna start studying the word i got my own bible i started reading it i started getting slowly sanctified out of my sin my alcohol my adderall addiction all that gets like ripped out of me and the lord it was a very muddy and bloody process but it's still happening today but all my sin starts like falling off of my soul and i'm like christ is so good but i'm really quiet about it and in february of 2024 was the first time that i went to like a prayer retreat and i was with like eight of my buddies and the suicidal thoughts start creeping back into my life and i'm not okay with that and so i'm in this house with like 10 of my buddies and my buddy is on me and he's like do i need to pray for you and i'm like a really skeptical like logical guy like i need good reasons for the things i believe in yeah for the first time in my life i'm thrown down to the floor in prayer and i'm like what's going on i feel like 10 000 pounds were on my shoulder and my buddy's praying over me he's like praying in tongues like i don't even know what that is and he's like prophesying or something and i just felt this weight come off my soul and like that was when i believe fully the spirit of suicide was ripped out of me and that's when i got born again now i'm like radical now i'm like this christ thing is what i'm willing to die for and for the next year until april of 2025 and i'll time stamp it here april of 2025 good boy christian out of the way i'm this ex-muslim guy but i'm not telling people about it i know so much about this stuff but i'm not sharing it my parents go to mecca okay my mom and dad do the saudi arabian pilgrimage that's the fifth pillar of islam that if you're able to do it you should go and it was the umrah not technically the hajj it was a different time frame but they go and my heart shatters shatters i get this conviction i'm like my family is spending their life so hard to get to know God. And they think that going to the Kaaba in Saudi Arabia is the most effective way to do so. That's going to cleanse their sins. That's going to atone for them. And all the Islamic theology around what the Kaaba is, which we'll dive into, that shattered my heart, bro. And on April 16th, I picked him up from the airport. I looked at my mom and I'm like, how was it? Like, tell me how it is. And she was describing her experience to me. And the same spiritual death that I saw in my eyes when I was suicidal, I saw, I was looking in my rear view mirror and I saw it in my mom's eyes. And I'm like, no. I'm like, dude, Satan is so deep in my family right now that if I'm a Christian, I believe Satan is so deep in my family. And that is the most unacceptable thing. I repented that day so hard. And I said, Lord, if, if this is in your will, put me in the body of Christ that's responsible for ending anything that's not of you. I don't even care what it is. Later, bro. I launched my first testimony video on YouTube. That was April 18th, 2025. It was Good Friday, actually. Wow. And it just exploded. And the whole ministry, who I am today, the brand, all of it's really cool. It started on that moment. And I haven't gotten off that wave since. And now here we are. And you're training, dude, I think, and it's definitely grown more. I think when I joined the school, there was like, what, 12,000 people in this school getting trained on Islam for free. And I will say, and I will say, this dude, the amount of resources that are in that thing is on real. It is unreal. Like actually insane. The amount of resources I've joined, like courses of different things before never been in a course that has the amount of resources that y'all do. It's so important. Genuinely honor you guys and everything that you guys do. We have, I think, 15,000 people in over a hundred different countries. There's like a little map section you can click on. The map is correct. You guys have anyone in the Middle East? Tons. How the? How the heck are they doing that without getting caught? They signed up with a fake alias. They're VPNed in. I have like a whole brief on it. We're banned in, I think, what, we're banned in China, Russia. We're banned in a lot of Saudi Arabia. We're banned in Iran. Like you can't even access school ever because, I think, because of that. It's pretty crazy. They blocked like the whole URL. That is crazy. Isn't that crazy, bro? Dude, that's actually insane. Oh my goodness. Yeah, dude. And so I kind of want to like set you up to start talking and then I'm going to start asking a bunch of questions about Islam. But dude, the reason why I think this is so fun, which by the way, like, dude, thank you for this Koran. He gave me a Koran that's like color coded with like talking points. Yeah. So I used to build a relationship with this mosque in California. I had been a few times with my buddy David and a few friends and we would literally go and we would sit in the service. And I've got to be careful. I'm trying to just be like honest when I say this. So like I'm not, I don't mean this in a disrespectful way, but. We sat in for a service where they would teach like the Imam would teach these congregants coming and we're sitting in there. And when they're praying the prayers, the Arabic sounds seductive. Like it sounds like a temptress trying to get you to go back with her. It sounds so seductive. Then afterwards, we would sit down and they would order us pizza and we would sit on the floor and eat pizza. Yeah. And then, and then we would like talk to each other. And then we would like talk to them and ask questions. And they gave us like literally a paperback version of this Quran, somewhat like it. And on the inside cover, it was like a broad manual on how to evangelize as a Muslim, like a very broad, either on the front cover, the back cover, I can't remember, but it was like a, you know, give people the Quran, show me verses like that kind of thing. It was very broad, very brief. But, um, so this is like, so, so fascinating. Yeah. And I'm, I'm so pumped, but before we get into specific stuff and you kind of teach me this, explain what the master key is that you created. I would love to. So, so I actually didn't find it. I'm actually a champion of it. The master key was developed by a guy named Alex Krimley, who's like an ex KJB border troop guy from Azerbaijan who moved to Toronto and ran it on the streets of Toronto. He read the Quran trying to find like jihad and war and kill the infidel stuff. And he found something 500 times better. The stories of the prophet, that it's a miracle in Islam that Mohammed is able to, despite being unlettered, which is just unable to read and write that he memorized and had a law reciting through him every single story of the prophets, word for word, perfectly in detail as it should have been from the beginning of time. That's the miracle of the Quran and the miracle of Mohammed. Every single story is completely different, completely wrong. So he finds that and he's like, hold on. And he's reading it. And there's about 1200 verses in the Quran of stories of the prophet, just the Torah. I'll tell you why that's important in a second. And what we're seeing is how did this change? So the master key developed on the streets of Toronto by Alex Krimley made into an elite polemic, an aggressive attack and apologist argument. It's a system. It's not an argument. It's not an argument that you run once. It's a system that breaks Muslims out of Islam and leads them right to Christ. It doesn't use any morals, doesn't use any ethics, doesn't use any politics, none of it. The fastest way to piss off a Muslim is by talking about those three things with them. All the aggression online towards all the apologists. I don't get any of that because I know how to respectfully engage with Muslims in a hyper effective way because of the master key. I didn't make it though. Greg Armstrong, pastor of Toronto, takes this, what Alex did and made it easy to communicate to the masses. And he started pressing on one thing. The master key, really important for you to know, the master key is a really fancy way of handling one specific claim, which scriptures from God. All our theology, all of Jesus is just a prophet, all of Tawhid versus Trinity, all of atonement versus verbal atonement, blood atonement, substitutionary atonement, secondary arguments, doesn't matter. What's the Injil, what's the Torah? The only thing that matters ever with engaging Muslims is which scriptures from God. We get all of our theology, all of our beliefs, all of our practices from the Bible because we believe that's God's scripture. So you can cut 99% of these really, honestly, in my opinion, hard to listen to like headache debates on like, if we just focus on one thing, which is which scriptures from God and the master key is surgically made to handle one claim, which is, was the Torah corrupted? Is the Torah, the first five books of our Bible, is that specifically corrupted in a way that the Quran claims that it is? Because the Quran's theology is completely different than the Torah's theology. And that's the only thing we focus on. And that has been so effective. So I would love for you to walk me through it as if I'm a Muslim. Okay. I would love to, bro. This is going to get good. The reason I really love this is because even when I converted, I had no idea how to disciple my mom and dad into Christ. They would slaughter every argument I used. When I learned this, the conversations, the relationship, the love, the shaking my hand and thanking me despite me deconstructing their religion has changed my life. And I have so many Muslim friends now and my family. Our relationship has been amazing because I actually understand them really well now. Wow. Okay. So the master key, what is it? It's an old Testament approach. The key thing we say is we say, make Torah great again. We have it on some red hats. It's pretty funny. Wait, that's funny. Yeah. Everyone's like, what is that? Trust us. It's how you win Muslims to Christ. And side note on that, we'll come back to it. The same way that you evangelize Muslims is actually how you evangelize rabbinical Jews. So the master key handles both because we're using the Torah to show Christ. The master key handles both because we're using the Torah to show Christ. And side note on that, we're using the Torah to show Christ. saving Messiah in the first place, right? Because we're the only people who do that. It's all witness. in the Torah. And then only after we've laid the foundations in the Torah, which we'll get to, do we preach the gospel to a Muslim. Now it makes sense. Now it lands like butter. Now they come to Christ radically, intensively. And those Muslims in our ministry that have come to Christ were more knowledgeable than I've ever been and they're more on fire than I am. Because they see this and they've been discipled correctly and it happens in like two meetings. No more four-year relationships. No more traveling to other countries. Two meetings. One meeting sometimes. And I'll show you that today. You ready? Well, I'm ready. Let's get it. Okay. So, more foundational ideology is if you're deconstructing a worldview, a Muslim worldview, there's foundations of every worldview. If somebody is pro-abortion, for example, they have a set of beliefs that you have to handle first that are the reason why they believe in what they do. So for Islam, we call it the real five pillars of Islam. Okay? Five beliefs that every Muslim has that whether they know it or not is the foundation of their faith. Okay? The first belief. They believe that our Torah is corrupted. Yeah. We're going to talk about how we handle that. We're going to talk about why the Islamic dilemma isn't effective in handling that. We're going to say what the Quran actually says about that. Okay? The second belief. We're going to talk about they believe that the Quran, this scripture, was written by the same God that wrote the Torah, the message to Jesus, the Injil, and the Zavur, the Psalms. Okay? It's the same God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob all the way through. All Muslims believe that it's the same continuation. The third belief all Muslims have, is that Abraham and Ishmael actually traveled down to Mecca to build the Kaaba. To restore the Kaaba. Really. Yep. Okay? If you're engaging a Muslim, you have to engage the Kaaba. There's so much history and reverence around it. If you get rid of the Kaaba in a Muslim's mind, they can't be Muslim. Period. Okay? The fourth belief that a Muslim has is that Muhammad was actually an Ishmaelite. Okay? Oh, yeah. What you might have heard preached at churches, that actually blasphemes the Torah completely in so many ways. You'll hear that there's three Abrahamic religions, maybe four if the Mormons are included, and that is a lie. Like, we're agreeing with the enemy on that. There's one Abrahamic religion, and it's fulfilled in the Jewish Messiah, Jesus Christ. Okay? So, I heard this before. There's three Abrahamic religions. There are cousins in the Abrahamic faith. Muhammad is not related to Ishmael, according to our Torah. Okay? And they'll try to prove that, too. I'll show you in a sec. The fifth pillar is that Muhammad received revelation in the same way that Moses did. It's actually the story in Sahih Bukhari, verse number three. That's the one Hadith you need to know. You need to know two Hadith, and I'll tell you both of them this time. Sahih Bukhari three is the story of Muhammad receiving the revelation in the cave, right? The Waraka, the Christian who would write Hebrew scripture, actually said that story is similar to the angel that revealed it to Moses, as well. So, we can dive into that story as well. Now, the key with the master key, those are the five pillars, okay? To recap, Torah is corrupted. The God of the Quran is also the God of the Bible. Muhammad is an Ishmaelite. Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba, and Muhammad is actually patterned in the same way as previous prophets. We're going to provide an overwhelming amount of evidence for all five of those pillars, using just Old Testament stories, to show you how crazy all five of those claims are. Wow. Okay? And the best part is, no morals, no ethics, no politics. Okay? So, the first thing, let's talk about what the Quran actually says about the Torah. And I get a lot of hate for this, but I have good reasons why. I am not an Islamic Talmud guy. I've tried it on Muslims. It's pretty ineffective, in my opinion. I know there's a lot of scholarship behind it. I want to be really clear. I love what the guys are doing with it. I think it's so important to talk about Islam. There's things in it that I've seen Muslims never concede. First of all, the Injil. Muslims will never concede that the Injil is the New Testament. Why? The Injil has the same standard as the Quran and the Torah, where it has to be given directly as revelation to that prophet. So, the Injil would be a revelation given directly to Jesus Christ himself, written in his own language, or oral. It can be an oral revelation too. And it has to be completed in his lifetime. That's the revelation standard in Islam. We have that with Muhammad and Moses. We don't have that with Jesus. So, any argument that uses the Injil, it's heavily theological based. I don't argue theology with Muslims, just scripture relevancy. They're going to go for miles around it. So, like, I would try Injil arguments with Muslims, and they'd be like, well, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were not prophets, right? The teachings and discipleship of Jesus was not the Injil. Some really witty Muslims, if you ask them what the Injil is, they'll just hand you the Quran and say, it's whatever's consistent with this. And then they'll be like, well, which gospel are you following? Because there's actually 30 to 40 different gospel accounts that are historically written in, by the 3rd century, right? Like, there's Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, but then I actually have a list here. Hank joined BJ's Wholesale Club the day he became a father of 30. I coach football. Now, Coach Hank saves up to 25% off grocery store prices, 30 pounds of pasta, 3 cases of protein bars, 75 sports drinks. And that's just pregame. He knows teamwork, and BJ's knows savings. This is your home, Coach. Home of the Save. Join for just $20 at BJ's.com slash Mesquite and save 10 cents per gallon for 6 months. Open soon. BJ's. Home of the Save. It's called Free Nights in Cool Summer. You get free nights every night, all year long. Plus a 25% bonus toward your daytime use all summer. It's a first of its kind plan, created for how Texans actually use energy. Discover how much more you could save with Free Nights in Cool Summer. TXU Energy. Rep number 10004. There's like Gnostic Gospels that we don't hold to. Gnosticism. Exactly. Yeah. I'm still a baby Christian, so I don't have them memorized, right? I'm still new to the game here. But the Gospel of Hebrews, Egyptians, the Ebunites, I probably got that wrong. The Gospel of Thomas, Peter, Philip. The Gospel of Truth, the Gospel of Judah. The Infancy Gospel of James, the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Mary, the Gospel of the Savior, and then the Gnostic Gospels. So the Muslims are going to be like, well, which Gospel are you using? Don't even touch it. You can argue it. There's a lot of great arguments for it. Don't waste your time is what I'm saying. The Torah. The Torah is the moneymaker, okay? Okay, let's dive into it. So a few things. What does the Quran say about the Torah? Okay? I'm going to go to Surah 7, verse 157. And we need to understand charitably what it says, because the Quran does not give full confirmation of the Torah. It doesn't give general confirmation of the Torah. It gives specifically three different confirmations of the Torah, okay? The acronym is PLS, okay? Prophets of Muhammad, the Law Code, and then Stories of the Prophets. That's it. That's the only thing the Quran will say is confirmed in the Torah. So any general argument of confirmation does not work, okay? Surah 7, verse 157. Prophet Muhammad in the Bible. It's highlighted for you, too, by the way. Thank you. Dude, you've got to take this thing, and I want you to run ten times harder than anybody else ever has, bro. Oh, well, thank you. I appreciate it. I love you, bro, yeah. I love you, man. Let's dive into it. It says this. They're the ones who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whose description they find in their Torah, okay? So it's saying that Prophet Muhammad is in the Torah. They are the ones who follow the Messenger. So these are the Jewish converts who follow the Messenger, Muhammad. So these are the Jewish converts who convert to Islam in the 7th century, because Muhammad's in the 7th century. They're following him, okay? So now we have 7th century Jews who are converting to Islam, and they're saying, hey, we're actually finding Muhammad in your Torah. So when I share this with a Muslim, I'm like, okay, do you believe that the prophecies of Muhammad are in the Torah? Like, yeah, totally. Cool. Surah 48, and I forget the reference, but I have it tabbed here. Yeah, Surah 48, verse 29. It says that believers' description in the Torah and the Gospel, okay? But I'm focusing just on Torah here. Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those with him are firm with the disbelievers and compassionate with one another. You see them bowing and prostrating, let's head down in prayer, seeking Allah's bounty and pleasure. The sign of brightness can be seen on their faces from the trace of prostrating in prayer. This is their description in the Torah, okay? What's happening here? Muhammad actually has a letter written on his behalf to the Jews in a city called Khaybar, okay? And Khaybar is like the third really important city. There's Mecca, there's Medina, and there's Khaybar, okay? Muhammad actually has a letter sent out to Khaybar, where he's saying, hey, this exact verse is gonna be in your Torah, word for word, and if you don't see it in your Torah, then you have no compulsion to follow me. And the exact verse is, Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are firm with his believers, and they're compassionate with one another. You see them bowing and prostrating in prayer, seeking Allah's bounty and pleasure. The sign of brightness can be seen on their faces from the trace of prostrating. And in Islam, the savage Muslims would always have a little dent right here, like a mark, because they're so devout in their prayer that they have a dent in their forehead. It was like a sign of eliteness. So, the Quran is saying that that verse should be appearing. Muhammad said it. Muhammad, word for word, said that that verse right there should appear in the Torah. He wrote a letter, yes, that had that. Or he had a letter written on his behalf that he verified to the Jews in Khaybar saying, this is in your Torah, and if it's not in there, don't follow me. He's like testing them, because it's obviously in there, okay? So the key thing here is that now we have a 7th century Torah that the Quran verifies, and Muhammad verifies, that only has prophecies of Muhammad in it, nothing else. So far. Okay? So we have prophecies of Muhammad in the Torah. Every Muslim would be like, okay, sure. Let's go to Surah 5, verse 43 to 48. And this is a quick one. If I can get there fast enough. I used the tab, and I'm not even using it myself. There we go. Yeah, you just gotta get there. Yeah, we'll get there, bro. I trust, man. Okay. Let's read 5, 43 to 48 through the whole thing. So this is Surah Al-Ma'idah, okay, and it's saying this. come to you for judgment, Muhammad, when they already have the Torah containing Allah's judgment and then they turn away after all. They're not true believers. And the context of this is that some Jews come to Muhammad with, there's one Jew who's being accused of adultery and he's got a blackened face and they're testing Muhammad. It's in Sahih Muslim 1700a, that's the Hadith. And they're testing Muhammad and they're saying, hey, if you're a prophet, you would know the judgment for adultery is stoning. And they're testing him. They're saying like, hey, is it blackened face? And Muhammad says, well, Allah recites through Muhammad is what Muslims will believe. Allah is saying to you Jews, why are you coming to Muhammad for judgment when you already have your Torah? Go check that. The judgment is in there. So it's not verifying the whole Torah. It's saying that the law code, the judgment, the 10 commandments, if you will, are in the Torah. That's it. Nothing else. Not general confirmation, nothing else. So we have a story now. We have prophets of Muhammad. We have the law code. What's the next thing that the Torah confirms? Stories of the prophets. This is, Bryce, this is the most misused verse in all of Christian and Islamic apologetics, okay? So we're 1094. It says, if you, O prophet, are in doubt about these stories that we revealed to you, then ask those who read the scripture before you. We need to understand this verse at a very high level, okay? So 10 verses later in Surah 10, verse 104, it says, say, O prophet, humanity, if you're in doubt of my faith, then know that I do not worship these idols that you worship instead of Allah. So when it's saying, if you, O prophet, are in doubt about these stories, Muhammad is not in doubt. Christians will say, O Muhammad's in doubt, and just go read the story. No, he's not in doubt. He's saying, if you people listening to me are in doubt, go check the scriptures before you. What scriptures is he talking about, though? The previous 21 verses from 1073 to 1093 are about messengers after Noah, Moses and Aaron, Pharaoh, settling the children of Israel in a land, which we'll get to. That's a really funny one. And that's it. Yeah. Where are those stories found? Where is Moses and Aaron found, Noah found, all these people? Like, what scripture are they found in? The Torah. Torah. Got it. Yeah. 90% of the answers are going to be Torah, by the way. So it's not all the stories. It's just those specific stories in the Torah, okay? So that's the only thing we can press Muslims on, okay? So we're sharing this with Muslims, and we're not going to die on the hill of complete confirmation, but we'll start sharing some stories. So Bryce, what I'll say to a Muslim is, well, can I start sharing some stories of the prophets with you, all right? And I'm going to read you, let's read like five. And I want you to tell me what stands out to you about these stories, right? You ready? Okay. You're going to love this. If you're a pastor, evangelist, this is why I think the church has the authority to handle Islam and nobody else, because this is how you actually win them over to Christ. This is a story of Moses getting married at the well of Midian, okay? So we have it in Exodus 2. This is what it says in the Quran. This is Surah 28, verses 23 to 29. And I'm actually going to start at 26 just for time here, okay? One of the two daughters suggested, oh, my dear father, I'm going to marry you. I'm going to marry you. My dear father, hire Moses. A strong, trustworthy person is definitely the best to hire. The old man proposed, I wish to marry one of these two daughters of mine to you, provided that you stay in my service for eight years. If you complete 10, it'll be a favor from you. But I do not wish to make it difficult for you. Allah willing, you will find me an agreeable man. Moses responded, it's settled between you and I. Whichever term I fulfill, there'll be no further obligation on me. When Moses had completed the term and was traveling with his family, he spotted a fire on the side of his house. He said, I'm going to marry you. I'm going to mount to earth. That's the burning bush. What stood out to you, bro? Well, that he spotted it with his family, but. Who was he with in Exodus? That's one of the four details. He's with his daughters. So he married Zipporah. He's actually with Jethro's flock. So he's with the sheep. We have a joke in the ministry, he's hanging out with sheep, okay? Who was the Israelite in the Old Testament who had two daughters that he had to serve two service terms for? Yeah, it's Jacob. Got it. Who are the two daughters? Oh, Rachel and. I'm forgetting the other one. Leia. Leia. Okay. They're Laban's daughters. Super niche Bible question. If you get this, bro, I'll buy 200 cans of this right now. Put it on camera. How many daughters did Jethro have? Twelve. Seven. I just had to shoot. I had to shoot. No, it's a one word. It's the most niche line of scripture. You'd never catch it twice if you read it. So Moses's story gets conflated with Jacob's story. Why? What happened? Because, well, Muhammad's illiterate according to. Okay. Yeah, he couldn't read the scriptures. Sure. Yeah. I have another theory that I'll give you at the end of this because I want to build towards that theory. That's one theory that he just heard all the stories wrong. I think that's a crazy story to hear wrong. I think this Torah is so clear on that. Also, Genesis 30, Jacob says, I have completed my term. Now, give me my wives and children and send me on my way. So now even Moses being with his family after completing the term, which the Quran says, that's Jacob's story. The whole thing, it's twisted completely. And even Islamic scholars will say that Moses was the one who moved the rock at the well, which was Jacob's thing. Okay. So these stories are being told to him wrong. On accident or on purpose? Let's figure it out. Okay. Let me read you one more story. On purpose? Get ready for this. Oh, yeah. I'll give you a little teaser. But that's a very strong claim. And that's something that could lead a lot of Muslims to Christ if we build it right and we articulate it right. I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I'll build the theory for you. And I think you'll be convinced of it. Okay. This is Surah 2. This is verse, let's do 249 to 251. Okay. This is Saul. Saul, David, and Goliath. When Saul marched forth with his army, he cautioned, Allah will test you with a river. So whoever drinks his fill from it is not with me, except whoever does not taste it, except a sip from the hollow of his hands, is definitely with me. They all drank their fill, except for a few. When he and the remaining faithful with him crossed the river, they said, now we are no match for Goliath and his warriors. But those believers who were certain they would meet Allah reasoned, how many times has a small force vanquished a mighty army by the will of God? And Allah is always with the steadfast. When they advanced to face Goliath and his warriors, they prayed, our Lord, shower us with perseverance, make our steps firm, and give us victory over the disbelieving people. So they defeated them by Allah's will. And when they faced Goliath and his warriors, they prayed, our Lord, will. And then David killed Goliath. And Allah blessed David with kingship and wisdom and taught him what he willed. Okay. By the way, this is like, I got this murdered out for you, bro. So you can track along. Hey, thank you. Yeah, I got you, bro. Okay. Did anything stand out to you in that story? Well, I want you to explain because the beginning sounded weird. It's familiar. Okay. Who was the Israelite judge who tested his army with a river? He had 30,000. Yeah. And then it I'm blanking. Judges 7 verses 4-7, it's Gideon's river test. That's the story of a river test where a small army conquers by God's will and God's will alone. Yeah. Saul? That was King Saul? That's 150 years before King Saul. And then also, the order on this, I will steel man this, it is debated if they say it after, but was Saul's army strong and perseverant when they fought Goliath and they beat Goliath's army? I don't think so. Dude, no. In 1 Samuel, dude, Saul's army was in witness protection mode. They were so scared of Goliath. They were hiding in caves and tents and crevices and they were waiting for a champion to show up to fight Goliath and nobody fought him. And he was mocked. They were mocked and taunted for like the whole beginning before David came in. Okay. And then did David immediately get blessed with kingship? No, not immediately. No, there was the persecution. I think it was 15 years that he was in hiding. Yeah. Being chased by Saul. Yeah. This whole story, they condense three centuries into like two verses and they get the order wrong and they get all the details wrong. The details are what the moneymaker is. Okay. I'm going to give you a seed right now. And by the way, to you and everyone watching, I hope this overwhelms you because that's what it takes to lead a Muslim to Christ. Yeah. It's definitely a lot of information, like sitting here trying to understand it, but it's, it's good. It's like, yeah, you'll, you'll, you'll hear it and then it'll click. I mean, with the master key, you got to just drill it. But once it becomes, once you click it and it gets it, you'll never forget it. And then you read the Quran and you'll be like, this is everywhere. Okay. Let's go to another story. Let's go to Surah 28 verse nine. So a question for you, Bryce, who adopted, uh, who adopted Pharaoh? Sorry. Who adopted Moses? Uh, well, it was Pharaoh's wife saw him floating in the river. Was it the wife? It was the daughter. Okay. If you get wife, it's actually, you might've watched Prince of Egypt. Did you watch that movie? Yeah. I like Prince of Egypt. Yeah. Prince of Egypt was good. They have Pharaoh's wife adopting her, adopting him. The Quran says this, Pharaoh's wife said to him, this baby is a source of joy for me and you do not kill him for, he may be useful to us, or we may adopt him as a son. And they were unaware of what was to come in the Dead Sea Scrolls and in the Torah and in the Exodus account, every account we have, it was Pharaoh's daughter. It's mentioned six times in Dead Sea Scrolls, actually in manuscripts that we have. Pharaoh's wife, detail change. Why? So let me, let me walk you through a really advanced concept called pressing the differences. A Muslim is going to say something like, who cares, dude? Like you're buying a car. You're buying a car. This is the Bible. So corrupted. This is the final version. This is the updated iPhone, whatever you want to call it. Okay. That's what the Quran is. I say, that's a claim. You're making that claim. How do we test that claim? There's two types of scripture corruption. There's intentional corruption where somebody is going back consciously and screwing with the scriptures to hide something. Yeah. And there's unintentional corruption, which is a pen slip, a scribal error. Yeah. We see it in our biblical manuscripts all the time. You know, it doesn't change anything. It's just like 22, it becomes 42, like which manuscript do we believe? It's an accidental error. Okay. These are not accidental errors. You can't fake your way into a completely cohesive, like you can't pen slip your way into a totally cohesive story with all this stuff. So what I do with Muslims is we're going to say, okay, intentional corruption, unintentional corruption. There's for intentional corruption, you need to have a motive. Why would somebody want to go back to the Torah and corrupt it in this way? This is the key of the master key. There's four motives we've got. Okay. To hide a prophecy of Muhammad, to change theology, to like hide the cross or to get rid of the Trinity, whatever. There's ethical concerns, which is like to change the 10 commandments to make themselves look good or political concerns. So the analogy is PPET. Okay. Prophecies of Muhammad, political, ethical, theological, PPET. Okay. I'll have an analogy. The PLS for the Torah, which is prophecies of Muhammad, law, code, and stories. That's the only thing it verifies. And then PPET. PPET. Let's give an example. Of what it means to test the details. And as I give you these like different stories, just know that a Muslim is going to be like, well, your Bible is corrupted. Your Bible is corrupted. I'm like, Hey, specifically, this is how you're saying it was corrupted. Like you're saying that, you know, it was corrupted by, we made up Jacob's story. We made up Moses' story. We made up Saul's story. We made up Gideon's story and judges like it starts to build this cumulative claim of what you're claiming is thousands of corruption claims that don't make any sense. Thousands of years of Abrahamic religion history. Exactly. The corroboration for all this stuff is insane, bro. Okay. So let's do this. Let's talk about one of the details. Okay. Moses, Jethro having seven daughters versus two daughters in the Quran. Okay. Well, why would the question to ask is why would the Jews corrupt that from if what the Quran says was true from the beginning of time, a Jew would need a motive to go back to the scripture and change it. So what's the motive? You know, my Muslim friends, I don't know. I don't know. I'm like, Hey, like you add any motives if you want, but here's one motive process of Muhammad pipette. Okay. Are there any processes of Muhammad in Jethro having daughters? Like, does that have anything to do with processes of Muhammad? Not that I would think. No, it's a story. Okay. Political motives. Is there like a land change or like the Kaaba being in Mecca or any like political reason why changing seven to two would happen? I mean, not that I know. I couldn't think of one. Even if I tried, I'm like, you'll be surprised. I'll do this for 2000 details in a row if I have to. Ethical motives. Does changing seven daughters to two, does that change your stance on abortion or premarital sex or the 10 commandments or anything? Not, not that I can think. No, it's just, it's a story. It's a random story detail. Okay. And then theological motive does changing seven daughters to two, does that change your thoughts on the Trinity or like atonement or like original sin or any of that stuff? Not that I can think of. No, I can't think of anything either, bro. So my lovely Muslim friend, unless you explain to me why this happened, why, what's the motive for somebody changing the scripture? I can't believe that it's changed because it wasn't unintentional. For intentional, it needs to have a motive. And if there's no motive, then it didn't happen. So then the Torah's version is right. That's the original and the Quran's wrong. And I have to take the Torah's account. And I'll do that for every single detail. You know, what's the, what's the, the motive for Moses being with his family at the burning bush versus not being with his family? No prophets of Muhammad, no political, no ethical, no theological. It's a story. Yeah. Every single story that we're going to go through, you can kind of run that framework and think about it. It's like, none of this makes any sense. Okay. So why, why are we using the stories? I'm going to kind of take one step back here. Okay. What does the Quran say about Jesus? And this is probably the most important part, right? We always want to know what does Islam say about Christ? Okay. Which they call him Isa. Isa. Yeah. Yes. Isa. So Surah 4 verse 157. And we're going to come back to this. It says the Jews are boasting or it says, and for boasting, sorry, we killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah, but they neither killed nor crucified him. It was only made to appear so. Even those who argue for this crucifixion are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever. They're only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him. Rather Allah raised him to himself. Okay. So whoever's writing this Quran is very, very anti-crucifixion resurrection. Jesus has nothing to do with that. Yeah. Just a messenger. Okay. Don't they believe, don't they believe in a substitute, like Allah substituted him? That's like, I've heard different theories. I've heard different theories. So like, they think it's like Judas or something like that, but there's no, in the Quran, there's no real, like, this is who they put on the cross. Yeah. That's what I was taught. The whole point is that there's no resurrection. Jesus did not die. He's actually raised the right hand of the father too. So a few verses later, verse, surah four, verse 171 doubles down on like the anti-Jesus. It says, O people of the book, do not go to extremes regarding your faith. Say nothing about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary was no more than a messenger of Allah and the fulfillment of his word through Mary and a spirit created by his command. Ready? So believe in Allah and his messengers and do not say Trinity. Stop! Exclamation mark. Says that in the Quran. Stop. Do not say Trinity. For your own good. Allah is one God. Glory be to him. So whoever is writing this Quran, really anti-Trinity, really anti-crucifixion. There's literally only one group I know in the world that has like that motive. And we'll come back to that. Okay. But think about that. So the reason we're doing the stories is because these stories in the Quran are about the prophets. And if we can't trust the Quran, then we have to go back to the real stories of the prophets, which all lead to Christ. So this is how we deconstruct the Quran. So we're pressing on differences. We're sharing stories with them, okay? Let me share one more story with you. And this is, well, there's actually five more stories that are all kill shots. And let's just go through them, bro. Cool. Let's do this thing. Let's do it. Okay. So what do Muslims believe about Adam and Eve? So what do you think is the biggest difference between Islam and Christianity? I coach football. Now Coach Hank saves up to 25% off grocery store prices, 30 pounds of pasta, three cases of protein bars, 75 sports drinks, and that's just pregame. He knows teamwork and BJ's knows savings. This is your home coach, home of the save. Open soon. BJ's, home of the save. TXU Energy. Rep number 10004. I mean, Jesus, in my opinion. Yeah, it's actually a symptom. So the reason that we believe in a crucified, atoning Messiah is actually because of Genesis 3. It's actually the original story. He's the second Adam. Yeah. Right? So I always say with Muslims, hey, before you talk about Jesus, the second Adam, let's talk about the first Adam. Because they actually rewrite the story of Adam as well. Whoa. Yeah, this is huge. And this is where the theology comes from. So the one thing you need to know about Islam for sure is this. So this change right here is a theological change. Yes, exactly. So if I press the Muslim as to why this change happened, they'd be like, for theological reasons, obviously. Okay. The secret is that we take the most minute, silly, irrelevant details, and we say, why would anybody corrupt that? Yeah. And then we show them how hard it is to corrupt that. What would have to change if that was corrupted? It becomes a giant conspiracy theory. Wow. Yeah. So get this. And once again, surgically deep way to handle one claim. Was the Torah corrupted? That's all we're doing. Yeah. Okay. We're showing them exactly what they're saying when they say the Torah is corrupted. I'm saying specifically, these are all the things in the Torah you say are corrupted by the Quran standard. So this is the story of Adam and Eve in the Quran. We cautioned, this is Surah 2, verse 35 to 37 for you. We cautioned, oh, Adam, live with your wife in paradise and eat as freely as you please, but do not approach this tree or you'll be one of the wrongdoers. But Satan deceived them, leading to their fall from the blissful state they were in. And we said, descend from the heavens to the earth as enemies to each other. You will find in the earth a residence to stay and provision for your appointed stay. Then Adam was inspired with words of God, and he said, I will not allow you to enter into the kingdom of God. I will not allow you to enter into the kingdom of God. And so he accepted his repentance. Okay. First of all, does that sound like the story of Adam and Eve in the Bible? Not even close. Not even close, bro. The core of their theology is in these three verses. There is no penalty for sin of death. The fall of Adam and Eve happens in paradise. It happens in Jannah, in heaven, not on earth like it did in the Bible. So why would an earthly Messiah, Savior even make sense? And then what does Adam do to come clean before God? It says, Adam was inspired with words of prayer by his Lord, so Allah accepted his repentance. So in Islamic theology, Adam forgets the command, wasn't born a sinner, just forgot the command and said, Allah, I'm really sorry. I repent. And that is it. And he's made clean. Repentance culture. Verbal atonement is what that's called. It's a rabbinical Jewish concept. That's where they get that from. Okay. So now we have this beautiful story of Genesis 3 where God says, why are you hiding from me, my children? The penalty for sin is death. And then he's looking for them in the garden. They're hiding from him. yeah and he they try to cover themselves with fig leaves he says that's not enough and he covers them with garments of skin in genesis it's the first example like how do you get garments of skin you have to kill an animal yeah so the first example of god killing an animal to cover his beloved children happens in genesis 3 the whole story gets wiped in the quran the whole thing wow so christ never made sense from the beginning of time in islam they have to they have to now make that make sense okay whoa and mind you this comes you know 600 years after the crucifixion right so what we're doing here these two stories the story of christ in the quran and the story of adam in the quran are so theologically different there's a heavy theological motive for corruption sure i'll grant it to them but if we can't trust the other stories then we can't trust the quran and if we can't trust the quran then we cannot be muslim and if we cannot be muslim and we use this the real stories of the bible to show why we need christ they come to christ so fast and it's not disrespectful at all i love doing this because i'm just reading their own book with that yeah like imagine if a muslim came up to you bro and was like dude bryce let's read the bible together you'd be like heck yeah man like let's do it i'll give you five hours right now yeah same response okay so this is so pillar one was is the torah corrupted yeah prophecies pls prophecies of muhammad law code stories of the prophets of the torah specifically is really all we have yeah okay there's another story we have how many oh that's a big one let's do this one after we deconstruct this is the kill shot this is like actually the biggest issue with islam it's the story of the passover and i'm going to dive into that really in depth with you okay so before we do that we have the story of joseph okay and a big thing in islam is scholarly interpretation so i'm going to read you the story of joseph in the quran and it's actually prefaced they have a whole chapter it's surah 12 it's all you stuff in the quran okay and surah 12 verse 3 i relate to you allah i relate to you muhammad the best of stories joseph through this quran though before this you were totally unaware of it okay so they're really doubling down it's a miracle in islam that muhammad can recite this whole story of joseph word for word verbatim and have it be exactly what happened in the torah the true account wow okay it's a miracle he can do that and he goes on for 98 verses and just rips through the story of joseph in one go and then surah 12 111 at the very end allah says muhammad says whichever you know if you're muslim or not and he says to you allah i relate to you muhammad the best of stories joseph through this um in these stories in their story sorry there is truly a lesson for people of reason this message ready this message of the quran cannot be a fabrication rather it's a confirmation of previous revelation a detailed explanation of all things a guide and a mercy for people of faith so it's saying that this story of joseph specifically is a confirmation of previous revelation well luckily we have the same stories let's read it bro okay so i want to take you to a closer look at the story of the father being presented with the bloody robe okay and i used to love this story bro that was like my favorite story when i was muslim was the story of joseph wow and seeing it deconstructed is like heartbreaking actually so surah 12 verse 16 to 18 says this they returned to their father in the evening weeping the brothers so the brothers returned to the father in the evening weeping they cried our father we went racing and left joseph with our belongings and a wolf devoured him but you're not going to believe us no matter how truthful we are and they cried our father we went racing and left joseph with our belongings they brought his shirt stained with false blood he responded no your soul is most tempted to do something evil so i can only endure with beautiful patience it's allah's help that i seek to bear your claims okay really random story what happened the brothers returned in the evening weeping they say that we left joseph with our belongings they say our wolf devoured him they say jacob you're not going to believe us no matter what you what we say they brought the shirt jacob sees the shirt and says no you're lying to me yeah and actually in the quran's version they believe that joseph is still alive whoa yeah well that is completely wrong yeah i got a bible somewhere here you got a bible on your phone yeah dude pull up genesis 37 verses 31 to 35 genesis 37 31 through 35 you said that's the exact same story that we have in the bible okay genesis 37 scrolling down all right here we go verse 31 then they took joseph's robe and slaughtered a goat and dipped the robe in the Bible and they took joseph's robe and slaughtered a goat and dipped the robe in the blood and they sent the robe of many colors and brought it to their father and said this we have found please identify whether it is your son's robe or not and he identified it and said it is my son's robe a fierce animal has devoured him joseph is without doubt torn to pieces that last line again joseph is without doubt torn to pieces yeah next level next line then jacob tore his garments and put sackcloth on his loins and mourn for his son many days okay what's it out to you like what's different well a couple of things stood out to me it said a fierce animal so not specifically a wolf but i guess it's not like the biggest thing um it's the fact that he identifies the robe as his son and then he mourns like a jew yeah yeah dude there we go okay great dude you're built for this bro um oh let's go yeah no so biblical literacy bro that's all it is just knowing the details of your stories so who who was crying in the bible's narrative it says that uh joseph's dad was yes the brothers returned home and the brothers returned home and the brothers returned home and the brothers returned in the evening weeping interesting okay so the brothers actually are crying in the quran's narrative okay pipet why in the world would the jews corrupt that prophecies of muhammad no political motives no ethical motives like that's not ten commandments stuff theological motives nothing to do with any theology it's a story so let's go detail by detail okay in the quran they made a claim they said here's the robe you will not believe us though what do they say in the quran they said you will not believe us though what do they say in the quran what do they say in he says verify it he says yeah they dipped it in the goat blood and he said we found this will you check and make sure so they're making a claim in the quran they're not making a claim in the bible okay what is jacob's response in the quran that he says no your soul is worth attempting to do something evil i can only endure with beautiful patience and later on in the story he does verify that he does think he's alive which i'll prove to you in a second too what does jacob say well what does jacob do in the bible well he verifies and then he rips his clothes and mourns yeah one of my favorite verses in genesis is joseph has surely without doubt been torn to pieces he's dead huge difference there's a guy named yasir kavi do you know that name no yasir kavi is the head of epic mosque here in plano he's the the head scholar sheikh who is championing the epic city project the hundred acre muslim mega city that's epic right here that's a mosque i've been too many times it's a mosque where i met those other guys um he says himself in his seerah of islam he says it's a miracle that even today muhammad recited the exact story of joseph and it's so similar to the story we have today in the bible so similar he is the best scholar i know in islam guess how many differences there are in between the story of joseph and the bible and the quran how many take a guess we went through like probably five right there there's about a hundred verses in the quran oh man there's probably a hundred a hundred that's a great guess a hundred differences that's pretty significant right yeah is that extremely similar i mean no no way totally different story totally different author there's 944 differences in between a hundred verses of the quran yes on one story in 90 yes because whatever the quran omits and the bible has as well is a difference whatever the bible includes that breaks a story like how do you explain the story of joseph if jacob thinks he's alive yeah there's probably about 150 different details just that come from the story that they have to now harmonize into this account wow so the question i want you to ask yourself who is telling muhammad these stories where is he getting this from yeah because he's illiterate and he can't read or write exactly so what group has a motive against the cross and has access to the old testament stories jewish people jewish people in seventh century okay now we're building a case okay so story of joseph which i'm going to come back to the story of joseph and i'm going to show you like five words about the story of joseph and i'm going to show you like five words about the differences and this is where you're going to lose your mind okay so we're building this case if we can't trust the stories of the quran and they're so bogus and we don't know where they're coming from and the corruption claim that we're pressing on them at least as a christian i would never convert to islam unless i had all these answers all of these answered pipette corruption claim tell me any other motive give it to me i don't care make it up even if they make up the most bogus ethical motive as to why jacob was crying versus why he wasn't because prophets don't cry in islam sure there's 900 other details i will crush them on with love in jesus name yeah um okay so let's talk about the kaba the kaba yeah pillar two so that's kevin the cube he the cube yeah i think it literally means cube too yeah have you ever heard that like uh i don't know if you know there was like a season of fortnight where they had like a big cube in the center of the map no way yeah and so people would call it kevin the cube and then it looked like the kaba that's so funny yeah dude i know it's so random yeah yeah the fortnight kaba yeah they had it for uh a season in the middle of loot lake yeah it was uh we'll have to throw a picture of it we gotta say that we got the fortnight kaba before you have gca6 yeah yeah that's true that's wild okay this is sahih bakari the hadith collection there's nine volumes okay i told you you need to know two hadiths to evangelize the muslims everything else don't even touch it sahih bakari 3364 is a story of abraham and ishmael actually going from jarar which is near modern-day gaza Two. Mecca. The journey of them to Mecca. The pilgrimage. The pilgrimage. The Hajj. Exactly. That's in here. Okay. So, I'm going to summarize it. It's a pretty long Hadith and I always say to my Muslim friends, like, correct me if I'm wrong because it's good to be corrected if you're wrong. Sayyid Bukhari 3364 has a story. You know, I already have the bookmark in there, bro. Okay. There we go. It's ridiculous. I'm wired. So, the first lady, Hagar, would use a girdle and was the mother of Ishmael. She used a girdle so that she might track her, that she might hide her tracks from Sarah. So, Abraham brought her and her son Ishmael while she used to nurse him at the breast to a place near the Kaaba under a tree on the spot of Zimzum. So, Zimzum is the well that the angel would eventually give to Hagar for Ishmael. Okay. The journey that Muhammad says happened is that Hagar and Ishmael actually are joined by Abraham and they go from Jerar to Mecca, which is in South Saudi Arabia. Okay. And that Ishmael's age is actually, he's a suckling infant. He's nursing. So, we're going to go to Genesis 21 in a second. Okay. But I'm going to finish the story. So, they take him to the Kaaba. He places them underneath a tree. It's a barren valley desert. Nothing's there. And Abraham actually leaves. So, he leaves infant Ishmael and Hagar there. Hagar prays. She's like, God, like, please help me. Like, I don't know what's happening. The son, like, the baby's crying. God hears the prayer. Um, Hagar actually runs seven times between two mountains in Saudi Arabia called Safa and Marwa. This, um, this tradition is called Sa'i. And it's what they do in the Muslim pilgrimages. They go seven times between the mountains. My parents did it too. Um, and then after the seven times, that's when the well springs up. So, it's like a ritual. Okay. Then, Ishmael is able to survive. And then, there's like a bird that is circling the well because it's attracted to water. This is Muhammad's story, by the way. I'm paraphrasing. And a tribe, a tribe called Jerhum, an Arabic tribe, comes to Muhammad, sorry, not Muhammad's, Ishmael's location. And they say, hey, we need this well. Hagar says, it's my well, but you can stay here. And then, that's how Ishmael actually ends up growing up around Arabs. He would end up taking a wife, actually two wives, from these Arabic tribes. He would grow up without Abraham. And then, after he was married twice, Abraham would come back down, see Ishmael and say, God commanded me to restore the Kaaba with you. Okay? And that's how the Kaaba was built. So, this is a story that Muhammad uses. We have that same story in our Bible. Okay? So, go to your Bible and read Genesis 21. And I'll give you some key verses here. I'm trying to remember off the top of my head. Let's go Genesis 21 verse 5, 8 and 9, and then I'll guide you from there. Abraham was 100 years old when his son Isaac was born to him. And Sarah said, God has made laughter for me. Everyone who hears will laugh over me. And she said, who would have said to Abraham that Sarah, would nurse children? Okay. Go on, yeah. Yet I have born him a son in his old age. And the child groom was weaned, and Abraham made a great feast on that day that Isaac was weaned. But Sarah saw the son of Hagar, the Egyptian, whom she had born to Abraham, laughing. So she said to Abraham, cast out this slave woman with her son, for the son of this slave woman shall not be heir with my son Isaac. And the thing was very displeasing to Abraham on account of his son. But God said to Abraham, be not displeased, because of the boy and because of your slave woman. Whatever Sarah says to you, do as she tells you. For through Isaac shall your offspring be named. And I will make a nation of the son of the slave woman also, because he is your offspring. So Abraham rose early in the morning and took bread and a skin of water and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder along with the child and sent her away. And she departed and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba. Okay, perfect. Go all the way through Genesis, was that 21 verse 21? That went to verse 14. Go through 21. Like read through 21? You can read 15, read 15 and then read 21. That should be enough. When the water and the skin was gone, she put the child under one of the bushes. Boom. And then verse 21. He lived in the wilderness of Paran and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt. Okay. Two very different stories. I know I paraphrased. Did anything stand out to you in that story that's different? He married Arab women, two Arab women. Yes. And in this he married a woman from Egypt. Egypt. Two completely different areas. Interesting. How old was Ishmael when Isaac was born? When Isaac was born, Ishmael was, doesn't it say he was a child? He was 13. I think it says in Genesis 20. We're 17 maybe. Okay. But we, based off the circumcision age, so Abraham was, I believe, 99. Ishmael was 13. And then oh, don't get me wrong on this, but the circumcision happens and then he's 100 years old when Isaac is born. So now Ishmael's 14. Okay. And then did Abraham, well, let's do the biggest one. Why did Abraham tell Hagar and Ishmael to leave the house? Because Sarah didn't want them there. Yeah, because they were mocking Isaac. Was Isaac born yet in the Islamic narrative? If Ishmael was a suckling infant? No. Uh-oh. Huge difference. And if you pull on that thread, dude, oh no. Okay. Another key to change. How far did Abraham travel with them in the biblical account? None. He just sent them on a horse. We have a joke that he didn't leave the kitchen, bro. He put water and food on them and said, get out of here. Go. Where did they go? They wander in the wilderness of what? It was Beersheba. Beersheba. Yeah. Yeah. It's about 17 miles, about 27 kilometers from Gerar. Okay. Okay. Where did they go in the Quran's account? They went to the Kaaba. They went to Mecca to build a Kaaba. Yeah. Do you know how far the Kaaba is from Gerar? How far? Take a guess. Oh, gosh. It's probably really far. 138 miles. Oh, snap. I got a map for you. On the left, that green map, that's Gerar to Beersheba. Okay. Look at the map to the right. Oh, snap. Isn't that wild? You're telling me infant Ishmael and Hagar with Abraham made that 40-day camel ride journey down to, and some Muslims will say that's wilderness of Paran. That's not Paran. Like, that's not Paran at all, if you know your Bible. But the whole point is, that journey is insane. Yeah. And we know it's the same story because Abraham in both the accounts gave dates and water skin, food and water skin. Hagar and Ishmael leaving the house and being cast out to the desert where the well is. So, according to our Torah, Bryce, did Abraham and Ishmael ever go to Mecca? No. Did Abraham and Ishmael ever build the Kaaba? No. Did Abraham and Ishmael end up in Saudi Arabia really at all in that area? No, not even close. Not even close, bro. Is Muhammad, if he married, if that story's false, did Ishmael marry an Arab woman? No, he married an Egyptian. So, if that happened, is Ishmael related to Muhammad? No. No, it's impossible. So, by that case, is Islam an Abrahamic religion? No. Did they build the Kaaba? No. Is the Kaaba from God? No. You can't be Muslim anymore. Welcome to the kingdom of Christ. Dang. So, the truth is, if just one of these issues, stories, anything is wrong, then all of Islam can't stand. Wow. I'm going to give you thousands of examples in that school. That's what it's for. Wow. These are the heaviest hitters, okay? No Ishmaelite, no Abrahamic religion. Dude, Muhammad, and I say this to Muslims, Muhammad could have been the most pious, devout, political war machine, awesome leader in the world. Devout prayer life, which he had. Man of service. If you read the Hadith, he was actually a very pious, giving man. He could be the perfect, sinless, moral example for the world. Doesn't matter. He's not a prophet. He got the stories completely wrong. And that's the only thing they need to worry about. And because we're using biblical stories, now the Bible has authority in their lives. Wow. And they can point to Christ. Dude, let me ask you a couple of random questions. Let's hit it. Like, the Master Keturah thing. Like, one of the biggest pressing arguments I hear, I told you earlier, was the Pauline Christianity. Yes. Right? So now we're looking at more New Testament epistles here, but I see Muslims complain online, oh, this is just a Pauline Christianity. It's not the same. How do you combat that argument? Yeah, so Pauline Christianity, I actually would use that argument a lot because Paul wrote 70% of the New Testament, and he's clearly not a prophet. So we would love to slaughter that. The reasons Muslims hate Paul is because if he was alive today, he would be like the OG ex-Muslim. Like, he knew the law. He knew the Jewish law very well. He was devout. He practiced it. He owned it with his whole life. He had a radical conversion to Christ. And he preaches a theology. His letters are almost 100% theology. Okay? He preaches that in so many ways that Muslims have to stand against it. So I actually don't even argue that anymore until the Quran's out of the way. Because the only way you can out-argue that is by using theological claims. And theology with a Muslim does not go anywhere. So the truth is, it's an effective argument because it asks a very hard question to answer, which is, why are we giving Paul all this authority if he's not a prophet? Which I think some people think he is, but I'm not sure if he is. But then wouldn't you just say, why do you give Muhammad all this authority if he's really not a prophet? You could. And then what do they go to? They would say, well, we have a metaphysical evidence of the Quran, that the Quran is unaltered. It's fully consistent. It's a miracle that Muhammad gave us this Quran, and there's nothing wrong with it. It's perfect, inerrant, infallible word of God. And then you would do the whole Master Key argument. Exactly. Every single objection that you'll get goes back to Master Key. That's the one objection that leads to all of them, is, well, do we believe the Quran is true or not? Yeah. And here's how you disprove it. So we could argue theology. We could argue crucifixion evidence. I don't even touch the New Testament. We haven't mentioned the New Testament once with the Master Key, because it's a losing argument. And the only reason we love the New Testament is because it still witnesses is towards the Torah. Like if anything in the New Testament got, like the other gospels for example, The reason we ignore the other gospels is because something in there denies what the Torah said, okay? In some shape or form, or it goes against everything we know about early Christian history with Christ. Yeah. Two reasons, really. So it still goes back to the Torah. So Paul in Christianity, it's a valid argument, but the reason it's a good argument is because it still is just a symptom. We accept Paul because he preaches off the Torah. If Paul didn't preach off the Torah, it wouldn't matter. We would say false prophet, false apostle, whatever. Get out of here, bro. Yeah. Okay. So Paul in Christianity, it's a very strong argument. I would use that mostly. I'd be like, you're following Paul, not Jesus. But they're following Paul because Paul followed the Torah. So it still goes back to that. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. And then, I mean, does the morality of Muhammad ever get brought up in any of your situations? All the time. All the time. My mom struggles with it. And I'm like, you have to like die to that in a way. It's like, you have to die to that because it's such. Yes. I do think it's true. I don't think he was a prophet at all. I think he was a random 7th century Arab dude. And I actually feel bad for him. You know, I think he got used and abused into being a prophet. I mean, wasn't he a warlord? Like, wasn't it like from a political standpoint? Yeah. Define warlord. So what I've heard, and I don't know, like, so he gets this revelation and he's kind of like in the minority when he gets this revelation. And like, he's basically like this prophet of Islam. So he flees his area. Then a bunch of people start converting. And then he uses them. It's like a power machine to go from city to city. Yeah. To basically get these cities to submit to Islam. Yeah. He's a very rough version of, but do you get what I'm saying? Yeah. So I argue with Muslims on this a lot. And I get hit with double standards that still end up going back to the Torah. It's funny. But so how many people did Muhammad kill himself? Do you know? I don't know. Less than, we say 0.5. Less than one. There's a guy in the Hadith that says a guy like ran into his spear and then that guy would die. Yeah. Later of other causes. So Muhammad himself actually did not take a life. And that was a standard of his prophet, but, but with his own hands. Okay. Which by definition of what a warlord is, it's like, they're slaughtering people at Genghis Khan level stuff. Right? So how many people were killed in Muhammad's lifetime underneath Muhammad's reign? Roughly about a thousand. There's about a thousand people that were executed. You know, he had 83 battles, but most of them were just like defensive battles and people were taken as slaves instead of being killed. Most of them. But maybe a thousand people were executed underneath his command. And even that command that he gave to execute a lot of the Jewish people in one of those wars was he trusted the guidance of one of his generals instead of his own guidance. And so was he a warlord? Sure. What I say is it's, it's not, that's what you're going to hear from a Muslim. And then like, I'm like, how do you even argue that? Like, dude, I was talking to a Muslim and he used a Samson against me. He's like, dude, Samson is so anointed in your Bible and he took a skull and killed a thousand Philistines with his own hands. Why am I trusting your Bible? Yeah. So I'm like, ah, I'm like, okay, fair. He's not Christ. Christ is the ultimate moral standard. Sure. But then it's like, there's going to, they're going to slaughter other things. And for me, it's just, I'm such a result driven guy that I'm like, I don't use any bad arguments. So is it a true argument? I believe it can be used that I want to say full, full transparency. I do think I show was not. And I do think, um, you know, he was a warlord. Like, let me be super clear about that, but you think there's better arguments? Yeah. I think this is, this is way more persuasive. So when do you get into new Testament stuff? Yeah. Only after they say that this Quran is totally behind them. Dang. Yeah. And does that happen quite often? Yes. Very often off more often than I it's happened in hours. And how many, how many of these people are really high level Muslims? I'll share one story with you. Um, there's a girl in our ministry. I won't name her because she's not, her family has no idea yet. She was more devout. Muslim than I ever was. She knew her stuff. She loved, she actually caught the stories faster when our pastor was discipling her on this stuff. Wow. She caught it insanely. We've run it by some of the most devout, like I'll post certain things on Twitter and I'll run it by all these about Muslims and I've never seen an adequate answer. They just have to, they make up random motives and I'm like, this is not persuasive at all. So this is something that she took back to a scholarship team that she trusted and they just said, Allah knows best. Like stop asking these questions. Like it's, we don't have a good answer, but we just trust the Quran. We trust Allah. Come back to the faith. Wow. And when they said Allah knows best, that's when her faith broke, when the scholars couldn't answer this. And there are still scholars who can't answer this today, this master key. Yeah. Wow. It's built and it's been built over 20, like probably 15 years. And why do you think that there's a rise of these Muslim apologists online? Like they're literally popping up out of nowhere. Yeah. Oh, I got a hot take on this. I think that the way that the Christian church is handling Islam bro is so unbiblical. We are slaughtering character. We're not using biblical arguments. We're not using biblical arguments to lead people to Christ. First, Peter 3:15 says, first, revere Christ as Lord, then always be prepared to defend the hope that's in your heart. Christ is God first. I follow Christ first, then I'm going to come at your faith with love. We're not doing that. So we're attacking Islam with so many arguments and attacking Muhammad is the most offensive thing you can do to a Muslim. That's like 99% of, but, but okay, let me look, let me play like a little devil's advocate with you. So then when we're talking like saying, oh, well, Muhammad isn't a prophet because of the thing happened. That would be offensive too. A Muslim. If you say for moral reasons, yes, if you show the prophet stories and how they're wrong in so many ways, I haven't gotten a single Muslim be mad at me for that. And I've talked to easily over a 100 having matched with this. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And once we paint a narrative and there's two more stories I really want to share with you, these are probably the two most important. I'll stay with it for the end. Um, these are, this ties it all together. This is what makes it make sense. Okay. So the thing is, is like, wait, get into it now. I want to get into it. Yeah. Get into it. Get into it. Sure, dude. Okay. How many plagues were in the Bible? Uh, 10, 10. Beautiful. I'm going to read you through a 17 verse one Oh one, and then I'm going to show you the most talking about from Moses. Moses plagues. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Excess plagues. Absolutely. This is, in my opinion, this is the hardest. I think it's impossible to answer if you're a Muslim. And I've tested this against two of the most about street debaters. I know I said they came up to my guys in Toronto. We were on a mission trip. We were on a mission trip out there and they said, give us your best argument against Islam. And I said, explain this concept to me. And they, they, they can see that they have no idea. Wow. We gave Moses nine clear signs. You owe profit can ask the children of Israel. Nine clear signs. 10. Guess which one's missing. I coach football. Now coach Hank saves up to 25% off grocery store prices, 30 pounds of pasta, three cases of protein bars. 75 sports drinks. This is your home coach home of the save. Join for just $20 at BJ's.com/mesquite and save 10 cents per gallon for six months. Open soon. Limited time offer. New members only BJ's home of the save. You get free nights every single day. And you get free nights every single day. And there was a great cry in Egypt, for there was not a house where someone was not dead. Then he summoned Moses and Aaron by night and said, Up, go out from among my people, both you and the people of Israel, and go serve the Lord, as you have said. Take your flocks and your herds, as you have said, and be gone, and bless me also. Okay, so Pharaoh's saying, bless me, right? And then go a little bit more down. Let's do verse, I think, 35. Yeah, 35 is like what they actually got, the inheritance. The people of Israel had also done as Moses told them, for they had asked the Egyptians for silver and gold jewelry and for clothing. And the Lord had given the people favor in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they let them have what they asked. Thus they plundered the Egyptians. Okay, let's compare this, because this is insane, okay? So first of all, the Passover was completely missing from the Quran. They don't even know what it is. It is literally half the point of Moses' life, and it's the whole Passover land. We'll get into that, okay? So Allah says to Moses, Leave with my servants at night, for you will surely be pursued. Did Pharaoh pursue them in the Bible? When, after the fact, like they left, and then he was like, wait a second, and then they charged the Betsy. But not like, not in this passage. Yeah, so what did Pharaoh do? He summoned them right away at night, because everybody has a firstborn death in their house. Yeah. It's crazy. Here in verse 60, it says, We pursued them at sunrise. So Pharaoh was just sleeping. Everyone's calm, and the sun rises. Okay, now let's go get Moses, right? And then it says, Pharaoh is pursuing them, right? Leave with my servants at night, for you will surely be pursued, because they have been, so these outcasts are just a handful of people who have enraged us. Pharaoh, or God is commanding Moses to leave Egypt. What happened in the Bible? They pull up on Pharaoh. Pharaoh's like, yo, please get out of here, and bless me on the way out. And bless me on the way out. Yeah. Pharaoh's like, dude, your God is insane. Get out of my place, and dude, please bless me with the favor of your God. Never happens in the Quran. The whole motive for them leaving at night is completely twisted in the Quran. Wow. We can peep at that so hard, there isn't a single reason. And they don't even have the looting portion in there, right? Like when they loot the Egyptians. Oh, you're going to love that. Okay. So verse 35, right? They get the promise. It's the silver and the gold, right? Yeah. I'm not too biblically literate on this. New Christian. New Christian. Fake ex-Muslim. Their gardens and springs. So we lure the tyrants, and get this. Their gardens, springs, treasures, and splendid residences were awarded to the children of Israel. Not the gold and silver. So the gardens, springs, and splendid residences. If the children of Israel wanted to receive those gifts, would they have to stay in Egypt, or did they have to leave? They would have to stay. So "let my people go" in the Quran is "let my people stay," because they're inheriting springs, gardens, and treasures, and residences. So they're basically getting the land that they were once captains on, versus leaving the land. Yeah. "Let my people go" is apparently corrupted, too. Wow. Isn't that insane? Wow. The whole thing is completely wrong. The whole thing. Surah 28, verse 5, it's also in Passover, and then we're going to talk about just how crazy it gets, bro, because this gets even worse, okay? Passover is amazing, but it was our will. It was our will to favor those who were oppressed in the land, making them models of faith, as well as successors, and to establish them in the land. Okay, so they're getting the land, and in the Quran, I'm kind of missing this verse, let me see if I have it written down somewhere. 28, okay, sweet. Yeah, so the land that they're told to inherit is Egypt and Jerusalem, which Jerusalem didn't come until King David. And then Egypt was never the land they were going to inherit. So this is really funny. I was watching this three-on-three Islamic dilemma debate with Bell, GodLogic, IP, and these three Muslims who I'm familiar with some of them, but the middle guy was, Bell brought up the Passover, Bell's wicked smart. Bell brings up the Passover and saying, well, why did they corrupt this, like pipet the Passover? The guy in the middle is very sharp, he goes, for financial reasons, to gain more political power, financial reasons, sure. So he gave them a really half intention. Motive, but sure, we'll grant it. But because in the Quran, the inheritance is Egypt and Jerusalem, what he is saying is that we added in the Passover, we corrupted it, and the Jewish people corrupted the Torah to say that they should never have gotten the land of Egypt. Because the Quran says they should get the land of Egypt, that was the promise. But in the Torah, all of a sudden the Jewish people are just corrupting it so much that they now hide the promised land of Egypt from them. So now the Jews are corrupting. The Passover for financial gain, but now the Jews are like letting people take their land. Like, oh, the Jews love letting people take their land, right? Like, dude, this is crazy. The land of Egypt in the Quran has nothing to do with it. Yeah. So it's another issue. So every little thing, Bryce, is completely wrong. Okay? Passover lamb, never happens. How many times has the Passover been mentioned in the Bible? About 70, okay? So Exodus chapter 12, 10th and final plague, God says, Take a lamb, a lamb without blemish, slay it at twilight, and put its blood on your doorpost. When I see the blood, I will pass it to you. I will pass over you. Okay? Exodus 12, 46, do not break any of its bones. Really important detail, okay? Watch this thread run, bro. We're going to build this timeline real time, okay? Numbers 9, one year later in the wilderness, God commands them, keep the Passover. Joshua 5, they cross back into the promised land of Canaan. The first thing they do at Gilgal, Passover. 2 Chronicles 30, King Hezekiah revives the dying nation. How? He calls Israel back to repent and do the Passover. 2 Chronicles 35, King Josiah's revival. The text says, Passover had been kept like that in the days, since the days of the prophets. Okay? Ezra 6, they come home from the exile in Babylon. They rebuild the temple, and the first celebration is Passover. Ezekiel 45, the prophesied prince will celebrate the Passover. Isaiah 53, now the prophets load the picture. The servant of the Lord led like a lamb to the slaughter, crushed for my and your iniquities, like a lamb led to slaughter. Passover language. Quiet. Quiet. 400 years, intertestamental period. Yep. John 1:29, John the Baptist, who's a prophet in Islam, Yahya. Behold, the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. The sin of the world. Luke 22, last supper, Passover dinner. It's symbolic of the Passover. He says, I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you. And he lifts the bread saying, this is my body. This is my blood. He takes the 1500 year old ceremony and solidifies it as him as the center. John 19, he's crucified during Passover. With unbroken legs. John says, not one of his bones shall be broken. And that happens. 1 Corinthians 5:7, Paul says it flat out. Christ, our Passover lamb has been sacrificed. 1 Peter 1:19, the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish. That's the Exodus 12 language, bro. And then Revelation 5, the lamb looking as though it had been slain. So from Exodus to Revelation, the Passover is the entire message of the Bible. Yeah. Never mentions it once. So theological change? Sure. Because. If the Passover was in there and then they denied the crucifixion, there'd be a problem. A huge problem. And they're going to make that claim. What we're showing them is that now every single book, every single detail that we just mentioned, plus way more has included the Passover in these 10 plagues. Okay. That's insane. Can I keep burying it, bro? Let's go. Bury it. Let's keep bury it. Dead Sea Scrolls. Peep at this one. Okay. Psalm 105 has eight of the. 10 plagues corroborated in it, including the Passover. Psalm 105:28. Okay. Darkness. That plague is not in the Quran. The plague of darkness is not in the Quran. David includes it in that Psalm. Or I don't know who wrote that Psalm, but that's it's in that Psalm. Okay. Peep at that. Why would the Jews corrupt a random plague of darkness into the Psalms? Why would they make that one up? Prophets of Muhammad or no? Political motives? No, it's a plague. It didn't. Nothing changed in like the land or the King. Or anything ethical motives. Darkness plague doesn't make me pro-choice. Um, sorry to keep going there with that. No, no, no, it's okay. Um, theological claim, the darkness has no impact on theology. There's literally no reason. And those, those songs, Psalm 105 and Psalm 135 has the Passover in it as well. Both of those are in the Dead Sea Scrolls and I have a Dead Sea Scrolls Bible here, but I can't reach it, so I'm not going to get it, but those are all. They're all mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls too. So we have manuscripts from before the time of Christ, that Christ, John the Baptist and mother Mary in the Quran confirmed used all of us in the Dead Sea Scrolls. It's, it's an impossible claim. Wow. Passover is the key to everything. So I know it's a lot of information. Bro, the Passover one's a crazy one. And, and the, well, the Joseph one, they're being like, what? 900 differences and 900 verses was crazy. Can I show you where those differences come from? Yeah. Okay. This is another. Nuke. This is Louis Ginsburg's collection. It's called legends of the Jews. Okay. Okay. This is Jewish midrash. These are rabbinical legends told by rabbinical Jews to make the Torah feel a lot more alive, to basically accentuate the story. Like it's kind of the chosen, right? Like the chosen has some things that weren't in the Bible, but to make the story a bit more alive, they included some details, just make you relate to it more. That's midrash. Okay. This guy named Louis Ginsburg collected all the midrash and published it. Okay. This is tapped. The story of Joseph. I'm going to give you three examples that are in this book that are actually in the Quran almost word for word, okay? Whoa. Uh-oh. The rabbis have a story of Joseph that they're telling Muhammad that he gets completely wrong. It's all documented in here, okay? Let me actually, I have screenshots of it, and it'll probably be easier than me flipping through. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. So you're saying. I'm not saying it in the text. I'm not making any claims. Based on the text, you think that 7th century rabbinical Jews purposefully corrupted the Quran. Yeah. Why would they do that, though? Let me give you more evidence for midrush, and I'll tell you why. Okay. Because they're the only ones with a 500-year problem against the Passover. They're the only ones who have a heavy, it's a heavy political motive. We love motives. I love motives. Let me just tell you now. So history of Arabia, Byzantine Empire, strong Christian empire, temple gets destroyed, rabbinical Jews get kicked out. We admittedly are. We're persecuting a lot of Jews. The Christians were not nice to Jews. They call them Christ killers. Wow. Deicide. You guys killed Christ. They're pushed out of the temple. They're actually migrating up towards Jordan, and they go down south towards Arabia. We have the Abyssinian Empire down south. Two Christian empires evangelizing like crazy, closing in on Saudi Arabia. The rabbinical Jews are located in Mecca, Medina, and Kabar. Okay? These rabbinical Jews are being crushed by Christian empires. The Christians are evangelizing, converting, taking authority. The Jews. The Jews. The Jews need, not all the Jews, there's good Jews. The bad Jews, the rabbinical Jews in the 7th century specifically, need to find a way to fight against these empires. Muhammad comes around, genius guy, United Arabian tribes. Hey, Muhammad, we're going to make you our prophet. This is my theory now. This is where I get theoretical, but I think there's a lot of evidence for it. It works. They feed Muhammad these stories. They bring him on as a prophet, as a political ally, and it works. It works. Am I making this up? It works. Muhammad fights against the Christians, wins battles. Islam starts spreading. By the time Muhammad's dead, Islam is all over Arabia. Yeah. It worked. What is Islamic theology? What's the only other theology in the world that thinks you have to repent to God to be clean? Rabbinical Judaism. What's the only other theology that says, actually, God would be unbegotten. God never had a son. It's not Christ. Rabbinical Jews. Yeah. That's Islam. What other theology has sinless prophets? The rabbis rewrote. The Torah in Midrash a lot to make prophets sinless to make themselves look better. Islam has sinless prophets. What denies original sin? What denies blood atonement? Which, by the way, that's all found in the Torah. Yeah. Which is why Jews come to Christ, too, with this master key. It's the rabbinical Jews. Islamic theology. Let me show you the clearest example, okay? Story of Joseph. So this is in. Okay. So I have this highlighted. This is the story of Joseph. And this is Joseph's brother in Egypt. So Surah 12, 67. Oh, I got to start flipping, brother. So I will give you one detail example, right? It's all about the most minute details that you wouldn't see anywhere else. Because this one shocked me. When I was Muslim, dude, and I saw this one, I was jaw to the floor. Wow. And I'll tell you exactly why. Surah 12, verse 67 to 68. It says, Jacob instructed the brothers, Oh, my sons, do not enter the city through one gate, but through separate gates. I cannot. I cannot help you against what is destined by Allah in the least. It is only Allah who decides. In Him I put my trust, and in Him let the faithful put their trust. When they entered. Then when they entered, as their father had instructed them, they did not help them against the will of Allah whatsoever. Okay? Such a random detail. Jacob says, Hey, brothers, don't enter through one gate and then leave through the same gate. Go through separate gates, or else, like, Allah won't be able to help you. Why does Jacob say, go through different gates? There's nothing. I don't know. Okay, we're making sense out of baloney here. Okay? So, Jewish Midrash. On account of their heroic stature and handsome appearance, Jacob cautioned the brothers against going to the city altogether through the same gate, or indeed, showing them altogether anywhere in public, lest the evil eye not be cast upon them. There's your motive. The story of Jacob saying, go through different gates, is not in our Torah, but it's in the Quran. It ends up from Jewish Midrash. And Jewish Midrash says, the motive is, lest the evil eye will smite you. Guess where evil eye is rampant in? Rabbinical Judaism. Rabbinical Judaism and Islam, Nazar. You're talking about, like, the actual evil eye? The blue evil eye thing that they all wear. Yeah, it's a rabbinical Jewish superstition, ends up in Islam as, like, word of God. And it comes from this story. So, basically, Muhammad's, like, a scapegoat for rabbinical Judaism. He's a fall man. Extreme empathy for Muhammad. That is wild. Different narrative. This is how we make Muslims really Christian. Wow. And it's dangerous, but it's exhilarating. Bro, that is powerful. Guys, if you're listening to this and you want to go a thousand times deeper, please check out their free school in the description. Yeah, dude, school.com. It's S-K-O-O-L.com, too? Yes, yes, S-K-O-O-L.com. I'll have it linked in the description for you guys to check out. To jump on. Can I read you one more Joseph one? Yes, please. I know I'm slamming you with this, bro. Please. But I need you to just, like, get it. No, hit it. Okay. Hit it. I need you to just, like, be a hitter. If you're a savage at this. Well, I got to go back and watch all the videos on the school. Yeah, bro. Oh, that's. Oh, my gosh. I know. I mean, my brain hurts right now. Imagine how it most of you feel. I mean, dude. And keep going. Keep going. All right, let's keep moving. All right, all right. Let's keep moving, bro. So, Stuart 12, story of Joseph again, verse 30 to 31. And I love this story again. When I was a Muslim, I remember hearing this story. Some woman of the city gossips the chief minister's wife is trying to seduce her slave boy. Love for him has plagued her heart. Indeed, we see that she is mistaken. When she heard their gossip, she invited them and set a banquet for them. She gave each one a knife and then said to Joseph, come out. When they saw him, they were so stunned by his beauty, they cut their hands and exclaimed, good God, this cannot be a human. This must be a noble angel. This is the Koran, bro. I got to highlight it for you. What? Okay, so this random story that's not in the Torah about women cutting their hands, seeing Joseph's beauty is in the Koran. Like what? Guess where it comes from. Oh, my gosh. Rabbinical Jewish legend. Let me pull it up. I got the exact quote for you. Dude, that's crazy. Isn't that insane? And so the motive was literally political from these rabbinical Jews. I completely believe so, yeah. I think they needed a way to fight against the Christians. And if you. This is a super. But if you look up Noahide Judaism, sect of Judaism, very, almost extremely similar to Islam. So I think that's what sect they were with their Noahide Jews. And they do have like a pagan religious. Like people outside of Judaism can be saved if they follow the Noahide laws, which really symbol Sharia law and Islamic law. So that's like a whole different parallel. It's everywhere, bro. Even with the Greek, like As-salamu alaykum, like al-awwaha shalom. Like it's all the same stuff. Okay. Okay, let me find this Joseph story for you, bro. Okay, yeah. Jewish Midrash, Louis Ginsburg, Legend of the Jews, Volume 2, Joseph and Zuleika, page 147 of this. Her desire threw her into a grievous sickness, and all the women of Egypt came to visit her, and she hosted a banquet. She commanded her maidservants to prepare food for all the women. She spread a banquet before them in her house. She placed knives upon the table to peel the oranges, and then ordered Joseph to appear, arrayed in costly garments, and wait upon her guests. They all cut their hands with the knives, and the oranges in their hands were covered with blood, continued to look upon the beauty of Joseph without turning their eyes away from him. The story of the woman cutting their hands and seeing Joseph, which every Muslim should know, right here. Wow. One more crazy one. How do we know in the Quran that Jacob thinks Joseph is alive? He says in verse, I think, 87 or 94, I certainly sense the smell of Joseph, that he's alive. Jewish Midrash. Okay. Bro, they say it in the Jewish Midrash. Yeah. This one's hilarious, bro. Look at this one. Okay, Jewish Midrash. Lewis Ginsberg. These aromatic substances were so well suited to Joseph, whose body admitted such a pleasant smell, so agreeable and pervasive, that on his arrival to Egypt, the perfume from his body spread over the entire land. So the proof that Jacob knows that Joseph is alive, he says, certainly I sense the smell of Joseph in the Quran. Midrash. That Joseph had all this perfume, and that it was so pervasive that it took over the entire land of Egypt before he even got there. Dude, that is insane. It's making. It's nonsense. And so once again, not critiquing Muhammad, no politics. If this isn't from God, why would you follow it, bro? Come to Christ. Come to Christ, Muslims. Let's go, bro. We got work to do. Seriously, bro. I need help. Bro, I love. Okay. I love that. Remember that. Oh, what was this one? This one was really good. Jacob believed that he was alive, right? It said, no, you're pervading me. It was in Surah 12. I know I'm kind of mumbling a bit. Jacob did not believe that he was alive. He did not believe that Joseph was dead. And it says that in the Bible, right? Get this. Midrash says, it's a law of nature that however how many, how much one may grieve over the death of a dear one, at the end of a year, consolation will find its heart to that mourner. But the disappearance of a living man can never be wiped out of one's memory. Therefore, the fact that Jacob was actually inconsolable made Jacob suspect that Joseph was alive and did not give up. Credence to the report of the brothers. The report of the brothers, what's the word for that? The I word we used. They basically make a claim that the report of the brothers that claim gets discredited because of the jewish midrash dude that is in 944 differences here they are that was three of like 50 i have justin joseph oh my gosh yeah uh-oh bro this is genuinely thank you for equipping the body of christ the way that you do it's it's so encouraging dude thank you right so much for coming on genuinely such a blessing would you pray for everyone as we close Yeah, I would love to. Amazing. Yeah, our Father in heaven and Lord Jesus Christ, God, we thank you so much for this opportunity to love you. We thank you for this opportunity to be a part of your business. That, Lord, that you have delivered both of us from hell. You delivered both of us from suicide. That you've taken the lives that we didn't want and turned it into something good for you. And so, Lord, I'm thankful for a brother like Bryce to labor with, to teach us to, to join his body, to be a part of the body that you're the head of, Christ. Lord, I pray for the Muslims watching this. Lord, I pray for Sneeko. I pray for Neon. I pray for Andrew, Tate. Lord, I pray that their veils are lifted, that they see that it's always been about the kingdom of Christ. It's been about Jesus Christ and no one else. Lord, I pray that this is received well. I pray that the Muslims join the church. I pray that the Muslims come to know Christ in his fullness. I pray that the Muslims are the moving factor of Christ coming back to all of us. Lord, I thank you for this opportunity. Lord, of all things, let your will be done. In Jesus' name, we pray the blood, we pray over everybody watching this. We pray over Bryce. We pray over Dylan and his team. We pray over everybody, all in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.