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What is a Pilgrimage?

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What is a Pilgrimage?

In this podcast episode, Frank Skinner, Emily Dean, and Milo Edwards engage in a wide-ranging, informal conversation. They begin by discussing the use of AI, specifically ChatGPT, for companionship, especially to talk about science fiction, noting its supportive but sometimes unhelpful nature, akin to certain friends. Frank then recounts a visit to a cemetery to see the graves of poet Charlotte Mew and musical star Mary Lloyd, which sparks a dialogue about historical performers and the societal difficulties faced by men who were "plus ones" to more famous female partners. The hosts share various personal stories, including Emily's upcoming comedy tour in Australia and an awkward anecdote about falsely claiming to have a sister. Milo describes a disappointing UK weekend cabin retreat that featured a labor-intensive, wood-fired hot tub. The discussion frequently digresses into humorous asides about Victorian-era TV shows, spiritualism exposés, and other eclectic historical tidbits, maintaining a lighthearted and conversational tone throughout.

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It's Freight of the Radio, Freight of the Radio, Freight of the Radio. It's the Frank Skinner Podcast, don't you know? This is Frank of the Radio. I'm joined by Emily Dean and Milo Edwards. Follow the podcast on X and Instagram. You can email the podcast via Frank of the Radio at AvalonUK.com. "Unt" Okay. The Nine tickles me on that. Yeah. You sound so gleeful and adorable. Yeah, it's that. It sounds like what AI can pull off. I'm not saying it is AI. I don't say that. People get to touch it, but I fucking love AI. Well, you've got a lovely relationship with your chat GPT about science fiction, haven't you? I just like. Yeah, because it's nice to have someone to talk to about science fiction. Who doesn't say stuff like you say about science fiction. What do you say to it, your friend on chat GPT about science fiction? I'm saying things like I'm reading Ursula K. Laguin's left hand of darkness at the moment. What do you think? And what does it say? Don't tell me anything past the first nine chapters, I haven't got that far here. And then you're coming up with a lot of people saying it's a conversation. I wonder if it is quite science fiction to be talking to a computer about science fiction. That's what I like about it. That's what people don't seem to care. There's some brilliant about that. You know, when you go to Premier Inn and there's no one on the desk, you're just pressing a screen. So it's like, what's it called my narrative report? It's got that kind of feel to it. Are you certainly predict a crime in a Premier Inn? Sorry. Are you simply mainly to solve sort of etiquette problems? I can't believe you have any etiquette. Your chat GPT is like William Hanson. I would chat you. Directly use of a fork there, Emily. No, it's more kind of things awkward things with the neighbour or something. You know, where I just think I don't know how to deal with this. What would you suggest? And it's so supportive. I love it. Do you know what chat GPT is like? I should shaving foam there. Yes. Well, that's a call back to something I did on Halalwee once. Apologies to my neighbour's. I was telling Frank's nephew about it and he enjoyed it. Yeah, no, I find my chat GPT. Frank, it's like, you know, you won't know this, but there are certain girlfriends you have. And when you've. There's never been a girlfriend of anyone who I could talk to about Ursula K. Loughlin's "The Left Hand of the Dog." There are very few human beings to be honest. And there isn't one now. But I found there's a certain type of girlfriend you have who you'll say, they'll say of the man who's just dumped your he's, but up with the trouble is he was intimidated by you or he couldn't handle his feelings for you. So it's not very helpful, but it's supportive. Sometimes chat GPT is a bit like that person for me. I sort of know I'm going there for kind of confirmation. And it will just say, "Look, you're absolutely in the right on this." Let's talk how. And let's talk about how right you are. I do see. With that, we're trying to get on a bandwagon. Yeah. I think that thing of bloke's been with successful women. I think blocs do struggle with it a bit. Do you? I went to this weekend. I went to. I went for a walk around a cemetery with my wife. And I'm a state agent. I'm just a good advertising. Scottens you. I'm looking for plots. Good to get on. No, if you need an inner high-gate cemetery, I don't fancy high-gate. It's too left wing. So I. It's my heart left. Full of grave robbers. They're after your bars. There's some lovely George Michaels there. Yeah, my entire family. Well, George Michaels very left wing. Yes, he was. He thanks right. Let me get going. I was thinking Karl Marx. Oh, you're right. Lidyn Yanco as well. I think you could safely say that Karl Marx was quite left winged. Yes, you're right, Frank. It looks like Father Christmas on the grave. Lovely. Anyway, back to Frank in the cemetery. So I. I went there for two reasons. One was to see Charlotte Mew's grave. It was a poet. Right. But, well, I lost the plot. So I never found that. Very good. Yeah, but I did find the other one I was after, which was Mary Lloyd's grave. Okay. And Mary Lloyd. The musical. Yeah, very. I mean, a major musical star. I was very excited. I did a little prayer, you know, comedians together. Also, she got a lot of stick for. for being too rude. Like a. She very famously sang that song. She sits amongst the cabbages and peas. Well, I don't like the sound of it. Yeah, people at that. I don't carry it on, Frank. She had some. She had some good titles. There was one. I'll tell you what, I wrote this there. It's. There was one song she did called, "What's that for?" Right? And she'd never had a ticket punched before. It sounds like the first few chapters of my memoir. So go on. It's. So what? Anyway, she was a massive star. But that thing we were saying about. about men being intimidated. She was very badly treated by men, generally. And I think one of the problems was. is that they were the plus one. And I think certainly turn of the century, being a plus one for a bloat was hard to take. But it didn't go well. But it was one. She married one. It was. He was a performer as well. But nowhere near her level. You know what I mean? That's worse. Better to marry the bus driver. Yeah. I don't know if my love goes out with a comedian, do you? No, no, no. I can never, never have. So. And someone said. And someone said. Someone. It. He was so. Her start and drove him to drink could be. It's a conveniently excuse. So I've been to drink. Well, you know, he couldn't cope with her famous, she was. It was a star as well. And much loved. Yeah. And someone said. one of the people who wrote about it said. The thing is. The thing is with him. He was a star who'd married a planet. Oh, that's good. It's good, isn't it? It is good. Star was a bigger than planets, though. Oh, fuck off. Anyway. There's always one, Milo. That was a beautiful moment. Sorry. We were like, "You're creating a match." I was, I was mixture. But it's just what happens. Milo takes the heart out of everything. Oh, Milo. Milo. You're late for the podcast once. Milo, why? Milo, why? Milo, why always with the exesion? Yeah. Look, I'm a star on a podcast with the planet at the end of the day. Well, that hang on, what's right then? But stars are bigger. So hang on, I'm. Of the stars and planets I'm getting confused and where does Tim Peak feed from this? Oh, look, this was never meant to be an astronomical point. Another one of her songs. I'm one of the ruins that Cromwell knocked about a bit. I like that. That's not gonna tell me. You're gonna tell me to knock any building down. Actually, I think you'll find Cromwell. I think you'll know well. Yeah, another person is not very popular in Ireland. I think you'll be fair to say. But it's very. When I read about the musical, which I do occasionally, it doesn't seem a wilder world than our comedy. Was it? Yeah. Who are the most. Flanagan and Alan, were they musical? No. They were a bit post over the writer, but Vesta Tilly, who was a male impersonator. That was a woman I used to wear, even though. Very, again, very massive. She used to do a song called "The Piccadilly Johnny" with the little glass eye. I think I dated him. Yeah. It didn't go well. And she performed in the rather early performance. She was a male impersonator. And Queen Mary, when she came on the stage, turned right the way around in her seat, and looked behind her, because she said she couldn't stomach seeing a woman in trousers. She sounds like the editor of the Daily Mail. Anyway, I've just brought that up. Before you move on. It was exciting seeing her grow. Yes, I can see that. Before you move on, was the good old days, good old days? Was that a reference to musical? Yes. Okay, that was a show on in the 70s. Yeah, and they used to get the audience out to dress in Victorian clothes. That was it, yeah. Right, okay. So the whole crowd was there with lamb chop whiskers and bonnets. In case Queen Mary turned up, so she would have a stroke. I was on Sunday nights in peak shoulder time, I believe, about 515. I bet the viewing figures were phenomenal. Everyone watched it. And it was Leonard Sacks, was the master of ceremonies. And used to use big words and the crowds used to see at them. Oh, wow. It was like the flip side of the only way is Essex where ignorance is celebrated. Yes, it was like here for your certain notification. Yeah, there it goes. Oh, Terpsa Corio Maestro, the crowd had go, wow, big words. What they think of next. It was honestly like, it reacts it never, people juggling. We'll say someone had to firework. works display. There weren't even, there weren't anything like the ones you were using wheat wad. I was going to say this is that, it's like this podcast. You could have been that. Yes, you could have lost your hand. Can I like the audience in the good old days? Trust like Victor. We're like, well we are Victorians really. We're like Jude the obscure going, "Whoa!" I like that fact that the working classes were sitting there cheering the idea that Victoria England was a good old days when most were in the workhouse. You had a house, you had work. What's not so like? I think he got done for an opportunity in a lab. Let's not go into that, Frank. Okay. If only someone had said that to him. I said as I said that. I've regretted it. Anyway, if you want to see, I'm going to have another girl, see if I can find Charles at me. If you want to see Mary Lydes grow ever since hamstered cemetery. I know that I know the very one. I haven't visited that one or give it a go. What's your favourite cemetery my love before we go? My favourite cemetery. I don't really have a go to cemetery. I don't know. That's one of them. What like most people? A bit dead list. I can't stand the dead. They're not very good conversation lists. What do you say there? You made a good psychic. Yeah, maybe. Jack and that was our scrooge fellow. He's like, "Come on, stand the dead. Keep him up at night." That's what Harry O'Denney, the escapologist, when his mom died, he went to see about 50 spiritualists. He's the garage key. Well, he was a magician. Where's the garage key? The sort of thing that you would ask at someone who's died. He was trying to get in touch with her. Well, he was, but he was also because he was a master magician. He'd go and say, "We're here to voice." You've got one of those places. He exposed dozens and dozens of spiritualists. He was like Dominic Littlewood for spiritualists. James Randy, I've got to have gone. James Randy, but don't get stuck in a lift with him. No, why? James Randy. I don't know who he is. You think it's nominative determinism? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, Carol Smiley. Don't get stuck in a lift with her. She's to our beat. Doctor now, he's not very negative. That's for Rob Moodie. Yeah. Gary Oldman. Yeah, well, he's growing into it. He's still here. Yeah. What else? Is it me? I think we can hear from you. I'd like to know what you've been up to. I have two little bits of news. Go on. The first thing is that I'm not going to be here for a few weeks because I'm going to Australia on tour. If you like this podcast, you're in Australia. You can come and see. Really? You're on tour. You're traveling around. Yeah. I'm going to change. I thought you were just doing the Melbourne festival. You're going on a business man, Frank. You're going to be on a tour. What are you doing that under tour? Yeah. So I'm doing path on the second. This is April. And he said, yeah, so I'm doing Melbourne's seventh and nine. You're not actually going through all the links. Well, there's only five. Is there a mile out Edward F M live F M one like F M? You mean? Yeah. You can go to mylowebos.co. I will do that. I have shows and then you can go and see going to Poverto Australia. Go to Sydney. What about that girl I went to school with? Someone said, you should talk to Emily because she lived in Australia as well, when I arrived at school here and they said, oh, Emily just lived in Australia. She said, oh, this girl Vicki said she lived in Australia. I said, oh, where did you live? She went, uh, do you know where side me? Han Barra Singh. She told her just to the left of see you. She's been structured this law. I used to live in a top-nate just just a body. But how embarrassing that she'd gone away with it because there wasn't so much international travel then. You could sort of tell lies like that. You know what I'm arrived and absolutely ruined it for her. I'm thinking Trisha. You were Sydney Vicious. Oh yeah. And then I was like, where about? So I lived in Utraway. Go on at Trisha. Yeah. I've told you about Trisha before. Yeah. My mind had gone a little sister. I don't have a little sister and I felt a bit. I thought he's talking about his little sister. I don't have anyone younger than me. Yeah. So one day just at the blitz. You know when someone comes out of your mouth and you thought, oh, I wasn't ready for that. But it's been said no. I said, I've got you talking about Trisha. Me and Trisha went to blah blah. I said, I've got a little sister. I said, yeah, never mentioned it before. What's the name? I said, Trisha. I just couldn't come up with anything. He said, what? You've never mentioned the fact you got the story. He's got the story. No. He's the change. Oh. At least I didn't say Trisha. I did get the pronunciation. I was in the back of a car with this driver was saying, I said, you know when you say things like what time do you finish the driver? Yeah. Exactly. I don't mean as a chat online. I mean just as someone to say. I want to do a set as a chat online. I said to him, so this is your last job. He said, no, I've got to go to a, I don't know where he was from, European. And he said, I've got to go to an event somewhere in East London. An event? I said really. Why? He's like in die house. He said they need to. And he dropped. He's like in Doctor Who when they escape. I said, I said, it's a problem, though. I said, I don't know if it's a problem. They're just a bit low on drivers. Really? I said, why? To do what? Anyway, I worked it out. He said, it was event. That was it. He said it. God bless him. But he also said, and this was different because he used to drive for them. He said, I used to work for you, but you. No, he said I was with them for five years. So he must have been saying you, but a people there, no one, I started to think, maybe I maybe I've got it wrong. I've just come for the German thing. But maybe you, but sounds, it's more personal. It's like saying you. Yeah, it's actually better, you. It is. I'm going to start my use. Can we just make it happen? Better than getting an amoeba. It's got to go better than Coolston. Yeah. Coolston is one of the worst initiatives. I mean, it just never took off Frank. Getting a you but a Coolston. Yeah. Anyway, I'll try. Yeah, so my actual news is that I was, I went on a weekend away. Where did you go? We can to Kent. Because I think periodically, you forget that going on a weekend away in the UK is shit and you get tricked into it. And my girlfriend was like, should we go on a weekend away? And I'm a yes and type of guy. So I was like, sure. And she, she got her heart set on like a little cabin type job. Oh, we love a cabin, us ladies. Yeah. Yeah. To remember the shops, Chuck Laseby called Thornton's chocolate cabburet. They were. Chocolate cabburet sounds like he. Oh, don't. You know, we've got to keep it for now. Okay. Yeah. Well, I'm at so you're more of a hotel chocolate girl. I'm totally hotel chocolate. Absolutely. Oh, interesting. So you went cabin. So yeah, but then the the selling point. But not chocolate cabin. Frank, what have I told you? You're going to keep the stand-by tie. Well, you know, when you're away in England, you're going to fill a time. Let's keep the party. Perlite. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. Also, this is BBC sounds. That's what I mean. This is the last to be done over with the J-cloth and the TCP. They don't need those men for me to come in to fumigate this thing. Oh, yeah. And anyway, that mean roll back to Milo in his cabin. And so the selling point of these cabbages, they come with a wood fired hot tub. So you have to sort of stoke a like a log burning stove. Oh, you know, I don't approve of those. It's the one thing I'm into. I campaign for that. What do you do on the top? No, I don't like the wood burning. But anyway, that's very boring. I won't go into that. Yeah, Michael Burke used to do that. Of course he did. When Tristan's a coon you need one. I'm 10th of a log. The Queen's 100th anniversary log. What did I just said? I just said. You've made it like that. No, I was very clear. I said, let's keep the party polite. And did you? No, you didn't. Anyway, you went into a cabin. I mean, not a child. I never said chocolate. I see what you're doing. I'm not doing anything. It was just a cabin. It's more of an introductory offer. After my 31st, I'm afraid he's going to have to opt for it. Maybe I'm just 99 pounds to get it. He goes from my Norditorium to arena. Yeah. Well, I was trying to stoke a hot tub in fact. Come on now. It's gone too far again. Right. So that's musical. Murray, I love this. For your son to let me go. Yes, these cabins right they are they cost twice as much as the equivalent nice hotel room with a spa would be Well, this is the thing because I'm a hotels.com man. I get the good deals. I'll say of course In fact, I think he checks into the business floor. Have you ever been to the business floor in a hotel? They have a business floor for this. What's good about knowing my love? I'm scratching around a bit, but I've thought of something the question of all kind of sentence is That for years when I've bought a Sunday paper. I've thrown away the business section now I can bring it in and knowing it will not be wasted Yeah, bloody hell. I'm gonna check up on the Anyway, you prefer the business floor you need your fax machine nearby. So anyway, she thought the cabin Are you with living? I love to live the living section the living section. Oh, I'm straight with all those world What about like that about it? When you say living, yeah, Christian to Kenya when you say living you mean lifestyle now there is one called living I like my style and culture. Okay, you're in the dying section. You're He's got plenty of life in him. Yeah, what else is Anyway, let's get back to the cabin anyway, so we got the cabin But it was like twice the price that hotel was also kind of say one of the business ones is just called money In the Sunday like it is yeah, yeah, people might know what business is yeah, sorry Sorry, cover gold sovereigns and pink Floyd. Yeah, anyway, so we turn up Obviously, and you know whenever it's one of these I actually did book it through a hotel's website It's like an Airbnb type gap. Yeah, Romeo Maybe a slight discount He did fail a little bit You're gonna clap at reception Why do you pay till 49 coin for that? You've got to stop you for 44 Never mind that yoke. What's happened to your teeth? Let's get the real headlines and what you bold in the two tens Why didn't you send me a postcard from Turkey? You seem to be spending a lot of time there Oh, you don't you don't want clopping your chocolate cabin anyway, so I'll turn up. I've told you is a red bull ambassador No, oh Yeah, that's why I said that how tell you can I I'm slept for two years. It's got wings. It can't sleep with those teeth is wife constantly Please get back to the cabin. Yeah, so yeah, we turn up the hot tub is stone cold and there's like a laminated instruction card Saying the hot tub takes three hours to heat up of constantly stoking the fire like it's giving you have to do stuff to it Like every 20 minutes and I'm like right and it's like one of these things like you know You can text this number in case of emergency, but otherwise you're on your own type gaffer and I'm like 200 pound a night Let's anyway, so I like the fire and we go out to have dinner and I come back the fire's gone down a bit I chuck some more fuel in it. We burn they've given us like an amount of fuel They're like this is the amount you need to have the top tub So I burn all of it by the time it's all burnt the hot tub is still stone cold So I'm right that's crap and then then my girlfriend's like right I'm gonna have a shower instead because I'm a bit cold she gets in the shower after two minutes the hot water goes cold And we're like right so we did him in this in the morning So we get up in the morning and we make we make a coffee and there's an espresso machine and they've given us three coffee pods Very much there's two of us and we're staying for two nights I'm like what a brock amount of coffee pods to provide and so we text the women You text her it's very modern. Yeah, and then she turns up and she's some some kind of Western European like a sort of I was getting a Belgian vibe off the plane and and and she and she turns up which I wasn't expecting and then she's telling us that you know We lit the hot tub all wrong and that's why it didn't get hot and like all that's very weird about the shower If you considered leaving a gap between when you both have a shower and I'm like no it went cold during the first shower There's no she was victim blaming. Yeah Yeah, and then and then I was like oh can you also can you give us an extra Coffee pod because there's only was two nights and we've got three coffee pods and she's like she's like the coffee pods are only for a River if you want more coffee pods you have to but I'm like into the three offer You should take advantage. You'll never guess what the most you are right and then you have two two of the coffee pods and there's that one Sit in there. Yeah. Oh no, do I have to give it to her or do I out? Can I just take it? Yeah Well, and then I'm sort of like this is 200 pound a night and you're nickel and diamond me about like an 8 p Coffee pot like I don't want to go and buy 20 coffee pods through a coffee machine. I don't have she picked the wrong Wolf of Wall Street to mess with you really do she didn't know what she was getting into you don't you don't get it the radison if you want Another coffee pod. Let's just bring you one and that's 150 pound a night. Yeah, I mean I'm like he knows the probably People take the piss. What did what happened in the end? Did you demonstrate well? Well, she's in court This is the other problem It's because we're all sort of polite millennials. I've seen like it's Trump at the BBC He's gonna take her to the ends of the we're gonna. There's not enough coffee pods. Okay. It's a pathetic no matter we're looking into it very strongly okay What is it gonna be Edwards versus Kent cabin woman? You're very late. She's some kind of immigrant. They're coming over here. Okay. They're overpricing their cabins. They don't the hard times right on heat up. Okay So so did you take things further did you just accept that it was less than ideal? Well, so she turned it and I realized why she came round in person because she realized she could kind of intimidate us by just standing there and just going Oh, well, you know the show it does go cold and then because we're both sort of polite millennials You know, we're quite tough over text like you know, this is something but then when she's there we kind of like okay And then and then she she basically It's that you're polite man and millennials hope you don't take this the wrong way. We'll soon find out good luck everyone I think it's because your generation's slightly fear Contact personal human contact more apparently there being lots of surveys like millennials. They won't speak to their neighbors See, I would have found the woman not texted her Okay, yeah, but you love an audio medium. That's why Yeah, I certainly got on very well with a ross or grant Is he still with us? I do hope I don't think he is. No, he is, isn't he? Well, he's a medium so we feast and with us he'll be half you'll have one foot in I think he is still with us. I don't think he is. I hope you're right. Yeah He did he's to follow me on social media remember off. I went to a show in Edinburgh. Oh, you know, I remember yeah Yeah, he was you know, he was one of the It's one of the great star mediums. Oh the way scope wearing grades was on the stroller, but if that's cool Still with us we've had literally the producers look gave us a very jolly When I saw Russell grow. I'm very glad to hear that. Well done. I love it. We know despises the deceased Still alive at Still alive at 75 Well, he's in my good books for now, but we'll keep it under review Yeah And then basically which we were saying well, we want another box of fuel for the hot tub So she did bring one of those. But what are you some little dorrid? We'll see us Carol Be sorry. We need another box of fuel Guy for that and at the last day she showed it at the window. Hey boy go get a turkey Here's the money What is it she was quite scruzed like I hope she's being visited by series of ghosts What other the appropriate Belgian ones would be did you have to pay for the box of fuel? It's not something I order frequently. So here's the thing right so basically Tell chocolate are some Belgian isn't it or it might be well They do love an introductory order the Belgian But so then we discovered that the they charge for the boxes of fuel so she gave us one for free because the because the hot tub hadn't He did it's Victorian Britain But then but the thing is if you're they should give you one per night because you get one if you're staying one night for free But then the second night you're on your own. It's like well, I've paid another 200 quid So give me another box of fuel for the hot tub which is a bent which is why it costs yeah Because if it was an electric hot tub you wouldn't be charging me for the electricity to keep it warm Um but you know they they're landlords the Airbnb people I feel weird getting the tell enough That this woman should have got Well I actually listened I am feeling like we're like the innkeeper and his wife It's like I'm going to go and buy a big glove on a bike shaped punch bag on the way home Yeah, yeah my sister so then she upsold us because then My girlfriend's game. Well, maybe we'll need maybe we'll need a third He's not done. No, upsold. What does that mean? You know upsold I first heard that expression from George Lamb I was in so house and they came over to give us some food and he said well what about this the way to said you should have this Is the lamb and you went yeah don't don't try and upsell us that And then I asked him and he said will you explain my low because I don't want well It's where they're trying sort of upgrade you to something more expensive They try to get rid of it and offload it on you so they'll upsell You know when that I tell you what upselling is specials So all specials on restaurants tend to be upselling we want to get rid of these things Have you tried the specials you know and they say that to you have you seen our specials mean? Well, I don't think it is if you buy a pair of shoes at one point if you bought shoes someone would try and sell you like shoe polish Or swade treatment That really would be upsold I said you buy a shoe and they're like do you want the other one on the other one? Do you want the sole? Um anyway, um can we say we realize we have listeners who don't want the other one And you have our love and respect Um, so anyway yet and then so I she she basically convinces my girlfriend to to buy a third box of fuel in case we need it on the basis that she won't be around The following day And to give her, I was going to say that was a bit bleak. And to give her £10 in cash. And then she says, "I'll refund you if you don't use it." And then we didn't use it and I texted her. And I said, "We didn't use that box of fuel." And she's the message. She's like, "I've got their £10 in cash." Well, she's left you on red. Yeah, she's left you on red. Wow, I don't know. I don't know about this. It's got a good King Wands' last feel, to say, gathering wind to fuel. Was it the feast of Stephen? Yeah, perhaps. Well, I'm sorry. There was no snife at the last time. Do you remember when I went so-called glamping? Oh, no. And it said, "Share and Toiler." Oh, after I grabbed it. What I didn't realise that when the show was on, you had to sit on the toilet. It was above the toilet. That's something Michael Burke would advertise at the day time television. You sat on the toilet being showered. I mean, I've done that before, but not with an actor or showered. You were charging by the hour. I knew it was. I couldn't believe it. And I mean, a tiny. You couldn't sit slightly to one side. You couldn't go side. No, I didn't. You had to sit in the middle. That was because there was much room. You had to just put the show running. You just. Everything got wet. I mean, you know, you can wipe a toilet down easily enough. Yeah, I've done it many times. Did it make everything feel. How can I put this? How do you say it? Cleaner? Didn't it make things feel quite sanitary? It meant it felt like you're shooting in the rain. That's what it. I don't know if you remember that old song. "Trace Feeling." I all think I might try a nappy again. Yeah. Yeah, but that was. You know, and that was called "Glamping." I don't know what the glam was short for. No. "Glamorgan." I think that's the thing with these cabin in the woods people in the glamping. I won't ever do it. I've never done it and I never will. Never say never. Oh, I will say never. That's my bond film. Because I know it will promise everything and deliver nothing. Oh, well, I mean. For me, Frank, not for you, for me. The hardship is not worth the experience. Okay. Yeah. For me. You don't want to wet toilet experience. No. No. Stop that. Can I say I wasn't actually like doing toilet when I was army. I was just using toilet. I was using toilet. I was using toilet. You were back to I thought you were a sister called Trisha. Elvis. When you get to Graceland, they made a decision early on not to open the upstairs, but we were very worried and they in the building. Why just for taste reasons? But in the shower, he had a black, full leather armchair that he sat on to the shower. It got quite a lot of mildew. It was in the shower, yeah. Why did he sit in the shower? Because he was a big lad at the point. When he was gone up, he was still, because he was heavily sedated to sleep. Did he sleep in the shower, do you think? No, he didn't sleep in the shower. But then the Memphis Mafia was the nickname of his associates. They'd drag him into this armchair in the shower, and then he would wake up sort of in the shower, if you know what I'm mean. Who's your Memphis Mafia? I think it would be. I don't know if I'm a Memphis Mafia. Your mother and law Sandy Madison. Yeah. David Badeel. That's what my initial idea was. And I was. After winning Playwright Jack Thorn. In Edinburgh, I once shared a hot tub with six women, and I think the average age was 58. (LAUGHTER) That sounds like a great night. Yeah, it was more of a ragoo. Ragoo. Oh, please. I've told you, we keep this to hand. You were forming a stock. Yeah, exactly. And the off stock. We've got to leave them in too long. Yes. For broiling. That would be so careful. That's the thing you're not supposed to grill. That's above so below. (LAUGHTER) It's a courier mother and law. (LAUGHTER) Oh, man. So. Well, listen, I'm sorry, the cabin in the woods didn't. Well, did he turn it in the end? Looking back, did you turn it round? Well, we kept it. That's not a stitchback question. What was taught about earlier? We made the best of it and we did get the hot tub hot eventually. But I think the sort of. But then it was time to go, huh? The experience of being mugged off by someone providing the service really ruins it for me. Not my land. Not my dog. I am promised, Emily. I hide it well. Do you know I always forget that? Yeah. I'll take it as a compliment. But yeah, there is something about it, when they come in, they're in the snide, like the coffee pods are for arrival, as though your a tie asked for wanting the correct amount of coffee pods for the length of the stay. That's a shame. I was thinking about this year the day that. People think it's okay to constantly be trying to twist you out of something or deceive you or take money from you. I blame traders. It's made that thing that that's an admirable quality in people. Yeah, I don't approve of it. Yeah, quite right. Listen. I should say, I have a fantastic time in Australia, my friend. Thank you. And if you're in Australia and you're near a Milo Edward gig, you should definitely go. Yes. Thank you. The next episode of. I ain't reading these trailers out for Frivia Desk, because when it says what we're talking about that week, it's always more interesting than what we've just talked about. Anyway. Thank you, I support you. It's just a massive burn on me. I think it's. It's so ruined. I'm so sorry. I think it's more about my decline. Anyway, that's better. The next episode. I haven't got there yet. It might be rubbish. Well, that's true. Let's hope. The next episode of Frank Skinner's Radio Days is Out on Wednesday. We're in 2013. Yeah. This time we're talking about. I'm on edge. Yeah. What age you should no longer high five. No, I was right. It's better than the one we were talking about. It's Frank Skinner podcast. The new winter changes, blow-in. It's the Frank Skinner podcast. I'm not totally sure how it's going. Thanks for listening to the podcast. Make sure to like and follow so you never miss an episode. And if you want to get in touch, you can email the podcast via [email protected].

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The hosts discuss using AI like ChatGPT for conversation, particularly about science fiction, and compare it to seeking supportive but unhelpful advice from friends.
  2. Frank shares a visit to a cemetery to see graves of historical figures, leading to a discussion about performer Mary Lloyd and societal challenges for men partnered with more successful women.
  3. Emily and Milo share personal anecdotes, including awkward social interactions, a weekend cabin getaway with a problematic wood-fired hot tub, and Emily's upcoming tour in Australia.
  4. The conversation meanders through humorous tangents on topics like Victorian-era entertainment, spiritualism, and quirky historical facts.

Summary:

In this podcast episode, Frank Skinner, Emily Dean, and Milo Edwards engage in a wide-ranging, informal conversation. They begin by discussing the use of AI, specifically ChatGPT, for companionship, especially to talk about science fiction, noting its supportive but sometimes unhelpful nature, akin to certain friends. Frank then recounts a visit to a cemetery to see the graves of poet Charlotte Mew and musical star Mary Lloyd, which sparks a dialogue about historical performers and the societal difficulties faced by men who were "plus ones" to more famous female partners.

The hosts share various personal stories, including Emily's upcoming comedy tour in Australia and an awkward anecdote about falsely claiming to have a sister. Milo describes a disappointing UK weekend cabin retreat that featured a labor-intensive, wood-fired hot tub. The discussion frequently digresses into humorous asides about Victorian-era TV shows, spiritualism exposés, and other eclectic historical tidbits, maintaining a lighthearted and conversational tone throughout.

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The podcast covers a range of topics including AI, science fiction, historical figures, cemeteries, and personal anecdotes from the hosts.

The hosts express enthusiasm for AI, using it for conversations on topics like science fiction and for supportive advice in social situations.

The hosts are Frank Skinner, Emily Dean, and Milo Edwards, who engage in humorous and varied discussions.

References include Ursula K. Le Guin's 'The Left Hand of Darkness', Victorian-era performer Mary Lloyd, and figures like Karl Marx and George Michael.

Frank Skinner mentions going on tour in Australia, with shows in Melbourne and Sydney, and encourages listeners to check his website for details.

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