What Iran, Putin and China Really Want | Victor Davis Hanson
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Victor Davis Hanson offers a critical analysis of U.S. foreign policy and geopolitical perceptions, focusing on the views of Russian leader Vladimir Putin and the rationale behind strategic interventions. Putin is portrayed as an opportunistic authoritarian who seeks to restore Russia’s global dominance by exploiting weak European states, securing energy dependencies, and undermining U.S. influence—such as through the Nordstream pipeline or by supporting anti-American regimes like Cuba or Venezuela. Hanson emphasizes that interventionism must be guided by a cost-benefit analysis, arguing that actions like bombing Iran or Libya were not justified by their outcomes or costs. He challenges the left’s narrative on U.S. foreign policy, pointing out that Obama’s actions—including bombing Libya and Serbia—lacked congressional approval and caused massive civilian casualties, while dismissing claims that Trump’s foreign policy was reckless. Hanson further critiques the portrayal of Iran and Israel, asserting that Iran’s regime is internally corrupt, ideologically fanatical, and economically strained, and that its global ambitions are tied to a Shia crescent that includes Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis. He also condemns the toxicity of the Women’s National Basketball Association (WNBA), describing it as a violent, racially charged environment fueled by political extremism and unchecked power. The discussion concludes with a broader critique of social media’s role in spreading misinformation, promoting sensationalism, and enabling anonymous, harmful behavior, warning of a society detached from ethical accountability. Hanson concludes by advocating for a return to rational policy, personal responsibility, and regional stability, suggesting that economic and political freedom in the U.S. may require moving away from California’s high costs and political inefficiencies.
Putin said the greatest tragedy of the 20th century was the fall of the Soviet Union.
What he meant by that was that we Russians ran the whole world almost except for the United States
and we want to get back that way. He's an opportunistic person and he thinks anytime I see
a weak Europe, let's get the Nordstrom pipeline, let's get them hooked on our natural gas, let's
get Germany so anti-American that they're basically on our side, let's resurrect Cuba.
Whatever we're for, he is against.
Hello and welcome. This is Victor Davis Hanson in his own words and this is our
weekend edition. So thank you for joining us. Victor is the Martin and Neely Anderson Senior
Fellow in Military History and Classics at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne
University of Michigan. He's a professor at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne University
of Michigan. And it's mega Jacksonian policy is before we insert force, is it in our interest?
Is it in our interest to remove the Maduro government if he's sending drugs through third parties in the United States, if he's greenlighting criminals and emptying his mental institutions and criminals to send them to the United States?
I don't know how many people we read every day are from Venezuela that are involved in horrific crimes.
And is he trying to undermine our allies all?
Yes.
Where you get tricky.
So when you look at Iran, is it in our interest to remove a bomb when all seven presidents have said you have to do that?
And now they were on the verge of getting one.
And was it in our interest?
And the answer is cost to benefit analysis.
So is it our interest to invade Iran?
No.
Is it our interest to say we have?
Created an alternate government and we're going to send advisers in there and we're going to overthrow.
And then we want a government to look like us.
Not necessarily.
It's not worth the cost.
Is it our interest to spend one hundred billion dollars and bomb that horrific regime into submission and to boycott it and to embargo it and to sanction it and to freeze it?
And just today, Scott Besant announced a whole new levy of secondary boycott punishments for those countries.
Is that are dealing with Iran under the radar?
Yes.
If you can weaken or destroy that regime without invading it and without killing a lot of people, then remember, they just killed 40.
It's in our interest to do that.
Is it our interest to do it a long time?
No.
Four or five months and within tolerable blood and treasure limits?
Yes.
So you have to be very careful.
But in general, when we use force abroad, the Jacksonians say.
If everybody just leaves us alone, and remember, Iran has killed more Americans than even Al-Qaeda.
Over 47 years, they've killed thousands of Americans in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in our embassies, in our barracks, or they've subsidized people like Hezbollah entities, USS Cole, African embassies, you name it, Jordan.
So it's in our interest to get rid of them, but only in a cost-to-benefit analysis.
All right.
So the criticism that can be made by a Jacksonian of the Jacksonian policy is it wasn't in our interest.
And so far, Trump's been very good on that.
Well, let's just start very quick.
I'll review very quickly.
You can't believe anything the left says anymore.
It's a completely bankrupt entity.
Why?
Because Barack Obama killed 500 people.
He conducted 500 missions on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.
Killed three citizens without any congressional authorization.
I don't know if that was in our interest or not, but these people who are so critical, it didn't say a word.
He bombed Libya for seven months.
He hit ports. He hit TV stations. He tried to wipe out the Qaddafi family. He did all of that. He never went to Congress for one second and asked for congressional. He bombed Serbia for 77 days. He never asked for congressional authority.
So, I don't listen to anything they say because it's political. If Donald Trump removes Iran, the Iranian theocracy, and there is a people pour out into the streets and they form a new government, and for the first time in 47 years, Iran is pro-American, the largest country in area.
And as far as populations, I think it's second only to Egypt. That would be a coup you couldn't imagine.
And the left will still criticize it. But on the right, do I believe Tucker Carlson? Well, he said we were going to start World War III when we bombed for 25 hours.
Do I believe Marjorie Taylor Greene? Do I believe? No, I don't. Do I believe that Mossad and Netanyahu got us into this? No.
Yes. So, I think he was asking for the legitimate criticism coming from somebody who is a Jacksonian.
Yes, a Jacksonian, a legitimate criticism.
And then so a Jacksonian would just say, you didn't do it.
Yes, a Jacksonian would just say, you didn't do it.
It wasn't in our interest.
I didn't put his last name, so we just go with C. Paul Ward says, would you do 10 minutes on the Balfour Declaration of 1917, origin, original intent, the outcome, pros and cons?
Well, you got to remember it was a letter. It wasn't a formal document. It was a letter from Balfour, who was the foreign wartime minister of Britain in 1917.
Well, you got to remember it was a letter from Balfour, who was the foreign wartime minister of Britain in 1917.
challenge any of our listeners. Tell me one place in the Middle East when Syria fights, Hezbollah
fights Syrians or Jordanians had problems with Iraqis or Iraq went into Kuwait. You name any
intra-Arab where the power said, all you people in that apartment building, they're the enemy
headquarters. We're going to bomb it in 15 minutes. So we text you, get out. Does any of them do that?
No, only Israel does that. That's not what genocidal nations do. When Gaza became quote
unquote independent, there was about, I don't know, 800,000 people. Genocidal people don't
see the population soar over 2 million. In 1947, the Arab population of when Israel was finally
declared independent was 10%. It's 20% now. This is a genocidal nation. I can prove it because
over the last 70 years, the percentage of Jews has gone down by 10% and the percentage of Arabs
living inside Israel has gone up by 10%. That's proof it's genocidal. And I can show you another
proof. They have gone into Gaza and they have vaccinated and they have brought food and they
supplied all of the water, all of the electricity, all of the diesel, all of the natural gas,
all of the gasoline. That proves they're genocidal.
So that's the level of argument we hear from Al-Zaeed and all of these people, Hassan Piker,
who, by the way, the other day got on stage and sang a song celebrating the gruesome assassination
of Charlie Kirk, why this left-wing socialist audience applauded this clown in a Mao suit.
It made perfect sense because he was wearing a Mao suit, Mao Zedong, and, you know, killed
70 million people. So he's bragging about killing somebody. And these demented people who listened
to him were cheering him on. That's what the left is. And I think people should wake up during the
midterm. If you're an independent or a conservative, if you're a Wall Street Journal conservative and
every day you hear how horrible Trump is, today there was an op-ed about Trump getting an
unnecessary war against Canada. That's all on one issue, just one issue. Canada is trying to
triangulate with China and us. So we are saying, do not bring in cheap Chinese parts and interest
and then repackage them and reassemble them and send them here and try to undermine us. And by the
way, you have a $50 billion. And don't tell us it's all because of oil like the Wall Street Journal.
That is thick tar oil right near the border of Michigan, Wisconsin, et cetera. And the idea that
they're doing us a big favor by unloading this tarry oil that we have refineries that can refine
and pay top dollar. And they're saying that was why we have a surplus. No, we are your best
customer. If you cut us off from that oil, try piping it all the way to Vancouver and sending
it to the Chinese with your ecological population. See how they like that.
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show. So, Victor, I know that you were just talking on the legacy of the Balfour, and it
took us into other, but you, yes, but you were describing Hamas, and they're very much as Iran
is for, they are for Israel very much as Iran is for us, their very mentality. So, Johnny DeLapp
asks, I would like to know what you think the Iranian religious leaders want to accomplish.
Is it a jihad or holy war to foster a second coming of Muhammad? If so, why don't I hear
much mention of it? Is there some strategic benefit we enjoy when the religious motivation
is not circulated much? Well, they say they're a mystical apocalyptic
branch of Shia.
Islam, which was always the minority. And they're not Arabs, they're Persian. So, there's
natural fault lines between 93 million Persians who have this illustrious history of dominating
the Arab world. And they have a different religion for the most part. Although I should
say that only 60% of Iran is Persian. There are Kurds and Assyrians. And there's all sorts of other people in it. But they believe that they are the purest
of Muslims. And this theocracy believes that because they are the purest of Muslims, and
they have a superior Islamic creed to their neighbors, and because they as Persian chauvinist
are superior to Arabs, that they deservedly should inherit the crown, not the Saudi's,
a guardian of Mecca and Messina. But they should be the spokesperson for all of the
Middle East. And so, they have been trying since the Islamic revolution of 1980 to create
what they call a Islamic crescent, a Shia crescent. And that means we're gonna get Iran,
and then we're going to get the Alawites in Syria that are an offshoot that are closer
to Shia than Saudi Arabia.
And then we'll have Sunni. And then we'll have all of Iran. And then we'll have all
of Syria. And then we'll get Hezbollah to infiltrate and de facto take over Lebanon,
which it has. And then we'll get the Houthis, which are an offshoot, not an orthodox, in
Yemen. And then we're going to get the West Bank and Gaza through Hamas, which is Sunni
Arab, but pro-Iranian. And they almost have it until Assad came tumbling down and until
Israel destroyed that so-called Ring of Fire, until we both emasculated it. And then the
idea was that we're going to be the ones that take the hit and destroy Israel. That's what
Ralph Fingani said, the former president. He said that he was reportedly, he denies
that Israel was a one-bomb state. He liked all the Jews being in one place because you
could kill them with one bomb.
So then they were going to broadcast that in apocalyptic terms, we destroyed Israel.
And Israel has 200 nuclear weapons. So anytime they see that a nuclear weapon is on their
way, they're going to destroy. And they were willing to accept that. They felt that they
were such a big country and such a big population. It was a small price to pay for being the
one power who destroyed the Jews in Israel and reclaimed the Middle East. And therefore,
out of that reclamation, all of the Shia minority in Iraq, in Kuwait, in the UAE, all through
the Gulf, they would flock to their banner. And that's how they feel. And they feel that
they're morally and intellectually and religiously superior to anybody in the Islamic world,
but also in the West. And they're fanatic.
And they don't believe in anything that people should remember about them. That's what they
say they are, that they're the purest of Muslims. They don't believe. They follow Sharia law.
They don't drink. They don't smoke. They don't charge interest. But they're also the most
corrupt regime. So Raf and Jani and all of those people that were in the theocratic elite,
they own houses in Britain. They own houses in London and Paris. They've got billions
of dollars in foreign debt. They've got millions
and it counts. Their kids all go to prep school. Their kids are. professors and stuff in the United States. And so they're also the most corrupt of all those
regimes. And they talk about they're wanting to die any minute and be in heaven with 72 virgins,
but the elite doesn't want to do that. They want to kill people, but they don't want to die
themselves because they're siphoning off all that oil revenue and they're living like kings.
That's why everybody says, well, how does Iran sustain itself? Now, today, Scott Besant has this
new blockade. He's going to sanction, isolate, not trade, embargo any country that secretly has been
helping Iran financially. Well, how can it exist? Because the people are destitute and the elite
doesn't care. And so there's a, you know, what I, what gets me really angry,
just as a side note, people hate Donald Trump so much that they have endangered their entire
reputations. So retired General McCaffrey, who served with his distinction, although he was
in a kind of a controversial position after the first Gulf War, when he allegedly kept fighting
after the ceasefire, but he was Bill Clinton's drug czar. So he was the one that called Trump,
I think he called him Trump.
Mussolini or a liar. And he came out today and said, this is basically, we've lost the war
because we're going to have to pull out people out of the Middle East
because they hit some of our base. Well, we have too many anyway. And if you, he doesn't understand
one thing for being a general. Why are all these bases in Syria and in Iraq and in the Gulf and in
Jordan? They're not there to protect against Al Qaeda or ISIS. They're dead. They're gone.
They've always, for one reason, Iran. You deal with the Iran problem and you don't need those
bases there. You can have a carrier coming out. We don't want to be there anymore. We don't need
their oil. And then we had Robert Kagan, whom I knew somewhat, and I just worshipped his father.
But he came out today and he said, we have to assume that this was the greatest blunder and
Donald Trump ruined the Middle East. We've lost the Iran war. Iran will now be, it's so powerful,
it's undefeated. Israel's humiliated. And they're taking, they will be the dominant power for years
in the Middle East. Is he insane? Does he understand that their nuclear industrial
military complex is destroyed? It was 50 years in the making. It was a half a trillion dollars,
that they're completely devastated financially, that the whole Gulf world doesn't trust,
doesn't like them. The only reason that they're telling us to be careful is they're afraid that
we won't destroy them and leave them intact. Does he understand that Israel is now more
militarily dominant than any period in its entire history? Does he realize that China
and Russia have no influence? There is no Assad regime. There is no Iran that's going to welcome
Russians and we're bombing the rail links to China and Russia. We're cutting off their air.
What is he thinking? In other words, his hatred of Donald Trump is such that he can't,
in a disinterested fashion, you can criticize the Trump-Iran war, if you want to call it that,
that he should have, after 38 days, kept bombing and finished it in another three years. But he
didn't want to kill any more people. And he wanted to destroy the military infrastructure
and then squeeze them economically and hope that people took control. And that might well happen.
But this hatred of him, and it's just, he should, all these people should take a deep,
deep breath. And I'm talking about Liz Cheney, who was the third voted with Trump 90% of the time
until she went completely nuts. And then Robert Kagan, and then George Will, and all Bill Crist.
90% of what he's done on the border with crime, with energy production,
with strengthening NATO, with building up the, was what they called for for 50 years. But his
fingerprints are on that. And therefore, you have to oppose him and his policies. It's the most
Pavlovian, nihilistic response I've ever seen. Yeah, it sure is crazy. Well, Victor, let's move
on to Putin then and what his thoughts were. Your readers were asking questions about,
how does our enemy think, basically?
So, Tim Kennedy says this. I would like to hear from Mr. Hansen regarding Putin's status,
coup possibility, maybe, due to the attack on Iran from Ukraine. So, he's saying the Ukrainians are
really devastating. What's Putin's thoughts? Yes. Well, remember that Putin said the
greatest tragedy of the 20th century was the fall of the Soviet Union. He didn't mean that
as a communist. He's not a communist. He's a fascist dictator, totalitarian dictator.
But what he meant by that was that we Russians ran the whole world, almost, except for the United
States. And we want to get back that way. And after the fall of the Soviet Union, the West
tricked us, he believes, into allowing all of these republics to become independent. And our
population went from 250 million to 140 million and were weakened. And so, my job as Vladimir
Putin, he thinks, is to make sure that we don't have to worry about the rest of the world. And so,
he thinks, is to restore the glory of czarist Russia as defined by having the same amount of
territory and power as communist Russia did without the communism, but with dictators like
himself. So, he thinks, well, we had all this oil and the West had no oil. And we had Venezuela and
we were all over the world trying to oppose the United States. We were partnering now and then
with China. And that hasn't worked. So, then he said, how do I weaken the United States and reclaim
Russian glory? So, in 2008, he went into Georgia and he stopped that separation. And notice what
he did. He always goes when a president is weakened. George W. Bush was tied down in
Afghanistan, Iraq. And then he went in under Barack Obama. We're not exceptional. A lot of
apologies for people. Oh, wow. He's apologizing? That's time to go and take Ukraine and Crimea. So, he invaded them. And then Donald Trump came
in. And when Donald Trump said, I have a bigger button than you do to Kim Jong-un, and he sounded
crazy, he didn't do anything for four years. And then he had by. If he invades, it's a minor
invasion. It's no big deal.
It's no big thing. And Vladimir cut off all that hacking. And just don't do it at our
hospitals. And we're going to stop offensive weapons. And so, he gave him the impression.
And so, he went in and tried to take Kiev. So, he's an opportunistic person. And he thinks,
anytime I see a weak Europe, let's get the Nordstrom pipeline. Let's get them hooked
on our natural gas. Let's get old Schroeder, that corrupt,
obese chancellor. And let's pay him off. And so, he's doing the bidding for us, which he did.
Let's get Germany and get them so hooked on our energy and so anti-American that they're
basically on our side. And he almost did that. Let's get into Chavez. Let's get communist
governments. We don't care whether they're communist, but anti-American governments.
Let's resurrect Cuba. Let's do anything we can to hurt the United States and regain our influence.
And that's what it is. It's an automatic response. And remember, who was the person who went to, in 2009, went to Vienna and said,
we're going to have a reset. And even went to an old, went to a jacuzzi in a hotel and stole the,
got the jacuzzi button and boom, we pushed the reset button. And then they mistranslated it
as, you know, it wasn't the Russian word. They thought they were going to be cute and say reset
in Russian. They even got that. That was their idea to reach out to Putin.
And then he was an alligator.
Yeah, Hillary and Obama. And then he bit their hand off like the alligator he was.
And so that's what he is. He's an opportunist. He just sits there and waits. And he thinks every
day, how can I take advantage of and rebuild Russian power? And now he's got a depopulated
country of 140 million. And he's got the largest area, even with the loss of the republics,
country in the world. And it's full of oil and precious metals and rare earths. And he's got
China, the Chinese breathing down his neck who are overcrowded.
And there's no internal dissent that would even think to challenge him. He does ask about the
cute possibility.
Well, I mean, yeah. When that crazy Wagner group objected, he blew him up in a plane when people
object. They fall out. They usually just take them up to the top floor and throw them out.
Or they take little injector guns and put plutonium in them in London or whatever they do.
And then if it gets really bad and he's afraid of a mass revolt, then they bring in Mongolians, they bring in North Koreans, and they use them as cannon fodder and they pay them.
Yes. And we just noted in an earlier podcast that the peace party in Russia, the party that would seek a peace agreement with Ukraine, was taken off of the ballots.
Yeah, there's never a free election. I don't think there's ever been a free election in Russia.
All right, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then we'll come back and talk a little bit about the Hutu and Tutsi conflict in Rwanda.
Not Tutsi bar, but Tutsi.
Tutsi. OK, did I? OK.
The Wat Tutsi dance.
We'll be right back.
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Just to sum it up, it's basically
65% black and 30% gay. And the owners are pretty all radical, a lot of them gay.
And it's completely a money-losing proposition and it would cease to exist if it wasn't for
the National Basketball Association. The men subsidized it. And the owners are left-wing
and the referees are left-wing. And it had their own little cloister and they were very
happy losing money and flying on commercial and making $80,000 a year. And no one cared.
And then Caitlin Clark, Sophie Cunningham, and a few white players came in who were really
good. And there were tensions because of their race and their sexual orientation being heterosexual.
And they started using violent means.
To vent. They were venting not because they were worse off. They were venting because
they were better off. In other words, like Tocqueville warned us, they would rather all
have their little equality with each other and be poor than some people be better off
than they are. And so when they saw Caitlin Clark's salary, $20 million, I don't know,
and her endorsements and salary combined, she's making $20 million or more a year. They
said,
that's not fair. We're a black league. We're a gay league. And we have a certain code and
we're left-wing. You can't have this person from India coming, Indiana coming in here,
Iowa. We don't want that. We're going to rough her up. All these
people. And then it turned into the most, it's really despicable to watch it now. They
just, it's just, they go in and they try to punch people in the face. They did it to another
girl on the ground the other day. They hit her really hard in the face. They, they, they
pushed people. They go out in the stands and start arguing. And then they get the league.
If you wear a t-shirt that suggests that you might not support biological men, they, they
get an owner to go shout in your face. And Mr. Freedom, the basketball player, they just
ejected him for wearing. So they had, they don't know what, I guess what I'm saying is
they don't have any rules because they said that men that have biological muscular skeletal
frame and have male hadn't for most of their life, male hormones and have not had radical
transition surgery. They're women. But when you see these powerful men and the ex MBA,
and they want to say they're women for a while, they say no. And then you ask them,
well, what is your definition? They do have a definition. You know what it is? It's a
de facto. And they're saying, just like Ward Churchill, you say,
well, Ward, if you say you can be Indian and Native American, well, what's stopping some other
guy just saying for today, I'm applying for assistant professorship of anthropology and I'm
Cherokee because you did it. And he said, ah, not so quick. I did the whole rigamarole. I wore
buckskin and I had a headband and I did, I did all these chants and I married. And so that's what he
said. And that's how it works. And I did all these chants and I married. It worked until he was caught. So what they are saying, think about it. They are saying we will
let trans people, but you got to go through the whole thing. So Mr. Freedom, you've got to start
wearing a dress and a wig and makeup and breast suppressors and crotch suppressors and maybe some
female hormone shots to get that beard off. And if you can act like you're a woman, then we might
do it. But you, and if you can do that and you look good in a dress and you look good with a
ponytail, that's, then maybe we don't really care if you beat the blank blank out of women because
you'll be a trans woman. But you don't do that. You don't go through all the trouble.
So they rejected his application to be in the draft today?
Not today, but they're going to. And all the players will boycott if he does.
Yeah.
And because he's making fun of them, he's saying,
if you can declare your sex or gender, I declare that I'm a woman. But they look at him and they
say, oh my gosh, he's going to beat. And the people who are angrier about it are the big
girls who have been dominating and fouling and hitting people. And they see this guy and think,
oh my God, he doesn't like us. And he'll come in and be the enforcer of the whole league
and start slapping us around.
One accidental hit will take them out.
Exactly. He'll say, I'm a woman. And a woman, if you hit me,
woman, I can hit you back. And so that's what they're afraid of. The whole thing is so corrupt.
I think you'll see within 24 months, Caitlin Clark, Sophie Cunningham, a few other white
players, and some, a lot of black players that don't do this. And they're just going to say I
quit and either form their own league or, because I don't, when the owners are all left wing and
tolerant, and they look at it as a, not as a basketball league, but a way to express their
political views. And they censor who can come in and who can't come in. And then they get out as
owners. They go in and scream at fans that they don't like. And then the coaches don't even
support the players. And then, then give that fever coach, give that profanity ridden, outraged
diatribe when people said she didn't defend Caitlin Clark when she was smashed.
It's toxic. And then when you see the referees and somebody goes in there and just punches
somebody and they say, I didn't see it. And it's so corrupt from A to Z.
Yeah. And it's very unprofessional.
I think Caitlin Clark should pull the plug and say, you know what? I get beat up and I bring in
a billion dollars in revenue and endorsements for the whole league. And you're all flying on golf
streams now and you've, you've got great salaries. I'm, I'm tired of being beaten up and called all
these names by you guys. Just go get your own little league and call it the, the, I don't know
what you'd call it, the trans league or the gay league or the DEI league or whatever you want to
do, call it that. But this is outrageous. And I can't believe they're letting them, you're going
to see within a couple of years, if they don't do that, there's going to be somebody with a spinal
injury or a concut, I mean, a real brain injury. Cause what they're doing is just martial, mixed
martial arts. Yeah. If you're in there, they're sucker punches, basically. I mean, they're,
they're sucker hitting people that are not ready for it. And that's very, very dangerous.
And the weird thing about it is, this is what is even stranger. So rather than clamp down on all
this, and you would think logically that publicity, 90%, 90% of the time, it's just
what they're doing. And that's not what they're doing. Americans hate the women's basketball association. They've been exposed to it. They've watched it for
a year or two and they don't like it because it's so violent and it's racist and it's sexist and
they don't like anything about it, but they're watching it now because it's like Lucha Libre.
Let me turn on that WM day and see who gets hit and what they do about it. And then the
screaming and yelling, it's sort of like world wrestling Federation. It is. It's sort of like
world basketball wrestling Federation. And that's right. And that's got a big, it's, you know,
they get, they make millions of dollars. That's what they're doing now. They're basically, they
said, God, we're getting bad publicity. We've got to talk to our accountant. And he said, yes,
you've got terrible publicity and everybody hates you people, but I'm looking at the books. We're
never making more money. And it's just keep it up. Keep the racism up. Keep the socking people in the
keep the clothes lining people in the neck and stomp them on the ground. Put your hand on their
juggler and just keep watching world wrestling Federation, get tips on the best things to do.
And show us what the next thing will be. The next thing will be is that all these teams during
practice, they'll have 50 minutes for basketball practice and then 50 minutes, how to hurt people.
How do you dribble down and then elbow somebody? Or then what, what, how do you step on a person's
head? What kind of four letter words should you use? They're all foul mouth to right in front of
these kids, that freedom, that Turkish American player was saying, why is she saying this? She
walked, that cloud girl went, walked over and said to him, you want to, you're, you're clapping for
Sophie cause you want to sleep with her. And he said, I don't want to sleep with her. I'm
clapping her cause I'm a fan and what she stands for. And then he got up and the next thing, no,
the player starts screaming. I think her name is cloud. She started shouting obscenities at him
and then she had to be restrained and then made this whole cycle drama. And then I kicked him out
and you know, that was all national. That was all televised. Yeah. And they did it all. Huh?
And they kicked him out. They did it all. It's like the world wrestling Federation. It really
is. So WNBA stands for wrestling national basketball association. I love it.
All right, let's take a break and come back and talk a little bit about Pearl Harbor.
and social media.
Stay with us.
We'll be right back.
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Victor is found on social media
by the way,
at X.
He is,
his handle is
at VD Hanson
and on Facebook.
He has a page called
Hanson's Morning Cup.
So join him there
if your social media
is your outlet.
Victor, this is more
of a statement
than a question,
but it was so curiously
curious to me.
I wondered if you had
something to say about it.
This is from William Clark
and he says,
I agree with you 100%
that the Japanese
have never felt defeated
after World War II.
I had an unpleasant experience
with the Japanese mindset.
I was stationed in Hawaii
and had some time to kill.
So I took the water taxi
out to the USS Arizona.
The boat was driven
by a Navy E3 female
from Pearl Harbor.
She and I were the only
non-Japanese women
on the tender.
I made sure I was
the last to disembark.
I asked the Navy girl,
what was up
with all the Japanese?
She said they come in droves
to pay homage
to their finest hour.
I was wondering
if you had any,
that's pretty different,
scary.
Well, that's not surprising.
I mean, Japan is a very good
ally of ours.
I'm driving to Japan
with my Toyota products
and they're very well built.
I appreciate their craftsmanship.
It's been a,
ever since World War II,
it's been a positive force
in the world.
And to a lesser extent,
Germany has too.
That being said,
they were both,
they're both,
Germany isn't anymore,
but they were multi,
uniracial, unicultural.
Japan has no immigration,
so to speak.
They won't let people in.
And Germany did,
and now they've lost,
it kind of collapsed
after the war.
But my point is,
they're kind of oblivious
to how they,
they regret World War II
and they regret
that they killed
20 million people
of the 80 million.
But they also regret they lost.
I can give you two anecdotes.
I always try to do anecdotes,
but I really don't
remember them very vividly.
One involves a farmer
that I knew
of Japanese descent.
I liked him a lot.
And every once in a while,
he stopped by
when I was on the tractor
and he was in a truck
and he'd talk out the window
and I'd turn off the tractor.
I was disking or something,
spraying.
And we were talking
and he said,
you got a degree,
you know a lot about,
I said, a little bit.
And he said,
did you know we,
they put everybody in camp?
I said, yeah,
my mother helped
Japanese.
Japanese farmers,
she wrote articles
for the local paper
how bad that was.
And then he would say things like,
well, we didn't cause,
we didn't cause World War II.
And I'd say, yes,
I know we didn't.
And he said, no,
I mean Japan didn't.
I said, what do you mean you didn't?
And he said, well,
you embargoed oil.
I said, we embargoed oil
because you went into China
and massacred 2 million people.
Well, that was our,
that was an inter-Asian.
So we started arguing.
My other story is,
I went to Germany
and gave a lecture
for a private company
at the Reichstag.
It's very,
it's an American company
and I was treated very well.
But the night before I spoke,
I went to dinner by myself.
I think it was
the Four Seasons Hotel,
so I remember.
And there was a,
it was the Four Seasons Hotel.
And there was a,
it was the Four Seasons Hotel,
so I remember.
And there was
a German group there.
At that time,
I wasn't really on TV
or anything,
but somebody said
that he read
the National Review
and he wanted
to talk to me.
And he was about
85 years old.
And he said,
"I like your columns."
He's a really nice guy.
But then he said,
you know,
he started talking
about World War II.
And before I knew it,
he was talking about,
well, you know,
the,
the Focke-Wulf 198
was,
you know,
the Focke-Wulf 198
was,
you know,
much,
much better
than the Spitfire
and the Mustang.
I must say,
I must include
the Mustang.
And I said,
"Which model?"
Does,
and you know
who invented the jet?
And so,
and then my other anecdote
with Germany is,
I was in Crete
in 1973
with a couple of guys
and we wanted
to climb Mount Ida.
And there was
the 30th anniversary
of a German parachute
landing
on the Ida River
on the Ida River
and,
you know,
there was
a German parachute
regiment
that had landed
30 years ago
when they were like
18 or 20,
so they were 50.
And we went into
this hotel
because we heard
all this noise
on the street
and here was this,
it looked like
a Munich beer hall.
They were all
toasting
and they were all
tan
and they were all
singing song.
I don't think
they sang
"Deutschland
uber alles"
but then they said
to us,
"Would you like
to hike with us?
That's part of the way."
And,
they were pointing
out places
where they had
basically
gone up
to burn
villages
and commit
atrocities
but they were
saying how well
they knew
Crete better
than anybody.
So,
I should
just add
that
there were
six carriers
that surprised
attack
Pearl Harbor.
The two
biggest
were the
Akagi
and the
Kaga
and they were
later sunk
but Japan
is now
re-arming
and they have
a new ship
and what do
they name
it?
The Kaga.
You would think
they'd say,
"We don't
want to name
a ship
when we have
thousands of names
after one that
surprised,
attacked,
and helped
kill 2,400 Americans."
But,
they did.
You know
what I mean?
Yes,
that's what
you mean.
So,
let's go to
Peter Jensen
from Denmark's
question.
He says,
"Do you see
an option
of
lifting
social media
from
a
dope
level
to
actual
ethical
knowledge?"
And just
to back him up,
I was watching
this weekend
on Fox News.
They had
some long
discussion
about how
people seem
to be surprised
that the social
media knew
that they were
getting children
addicted to
their product.
That does not
surprise me
in the least.
In fact,
I think they had
psychologists in
their testing
how they could
possibly do
all these things,
you know,
early on.
It is addictive.
It's not just
children.
I'll be
rushed for
time writing
an article
or an essay
about it.
I don't know
how long
it's going
to take.
But it's
going to
take
some
time.
It's
going to
take
some
time.
It's
got, I think, a website that's really good. You can get podcasts. You can get anything you want.
It's all out there. It's just an arena. There's the worst and the best. And you have to be
discriminatory. But it turns out that there are certain elements of social media and the internet
to include that, that encourage the lowest common denominator. So if you want to comment,
you don't have to put your name. You can get that funny little picture. You can say,
I'm cow horns and have a little cow smiling. Cow horn says this. We have no idea who that person
is. So when he knows he's anonymous, he says things or writes things he would never do.
And to get attention for cow horn, then he would use the F word or he would threaten people and
then people to reply because it's all anonymous. There's no consequences. It's not
like you go in. If that guy were to go into the local supermarket two miles from here and start
talking the way he did, he would be flattened or worse. But that's part of it. And the other part
is there's money to be made. And the money to be made is clicks. And clicks are through sensationalism
or perversities.
So there was a story today, I'll give you an example, where a attractive housewife with four
children, poor children, she and her husband decided they didn't have enough money. So she
got back in shape and they have a special room in their house. They tell kids that there's mom's
office and they lock it. And then they outfitted it like a sexy chamber. And then she goes in there
and in various states of,
on dress and sexual activity, either, I don't know what, they didn't detail it. And then I guess he
films it or somebody films it. Then they put it on the internet to titillate people. And then they
pay to watch her from subscriptions and then sick advertisers. And they're making a ton of money.
And it's not like she could say, well, I, I crochet and I'm going to have a crochet class.
That would be better.
but she's not going to make the money. And the same thing, uh, you, Candace Owens has gone up in
the ratings, but her, her way of, her, she, her mindset or her business model is six weeks with
the most crazy sensational things I can think until I'm totally discredited and then onto the
next. So this six week period, it is Mrs. Macron really has a penis.
Excuse the language. I'm trying to be clinical, even though she claims she's a woman. Here's all
the evidence each day. And then they're after me and they're trying to science. Next one. Charlie
Kirk was killed by the Mossad and with the help of his wife and all those people. And let's go.
And then that that's wrong. And then Donald Trump, dah, dah, dah. And that's how they operate.
And Tucker's starting to do the same thing.
Yeah. And they get more and more clicks.
Yeah. Yeah. I, hmm. Put your finger in the air. There's a big, uh, anti-Semitic crowd. Let me get
a guy on. Let me think. I can get a guy on. He's a, he, he thinks that Churchill was the greatest
terrorist of World War II. And basically it was a war for the Jews. I'll put him on and I'll say
he is the most, uh, knowledgeable historian today, even though he's never written one single
published article or book on World War II. He wrote a book on, about Twitter,
and that's how it works. So yeah, there's, and it's, and then when you can communicate with
anybody and you can send your picture, you can tweet, it's instant. You can just say,
I'm gonna get up in the morning. Hi, Bill. I'm brushing my teeth now. And in five minutes,
I'll have breakfast. What are you doing? 10 minutes later, I'm driving. And I saw this.
Now I'm putting my,
socks on. That's how it, it's all banality, but it's a way of interacting without interacting.
It's a way of small talk chat with, and the danger of it is you're still solitary. And so it's all
extraneous. And so it's a fake reality. And that's why Silicon Valley is so dangerous in this regard,
because they try to find ways to enhance that false world, whether it's your new glasses or
your helmet,
that you wear alternate virtual reality. And you have people who are disassociated with,
and they're not. It's funny where we live in the most promiscuous age in America, but the young
males today are not having what we would call promiscuous acts anymore to a level they did in
the sixties because they don't want to pay for dates. They don't want to take the trouble to
meet women. They don't, they just,
just want it. You can get, you can do two things. You can get the most raw, sick porn with no cost.
And second, you can create alternative AI partners. You can name them. They can talk to you. You can,
you can make them look any way you want. It's sick. And it's.
We don't know where it's heading, but it doesn't sound good.
It's headed to about a 0.5 fertility rate in, at least in the blue states.
Yeah. Well, since you're, we'll just finish with,
I was going to finish with that, but since you talked about Silicon Valley,
Dave Schoaf wrote, and he basically said, I have lots of property in Palo Alto,
but I'm not really happy that I moved here and I'm not happy with California. So he says,
if you were in my shoes, where would you move to out of California?
Well, Bill, it depends on why you're not happy.
Are you not happy? Because if you go on university Avenue and Palo Alto, people are urinating,
on the street and there's homeless,
or you're not happy that you're working really hard and you're paying basically 38% of your income to the federal government and probably 3% Obama and another 7% of a lot,
large part of your income for payroll taxes.
And then you're paying Gavin Newsom, 13.3%.
Are you angry that you get on the one-on-one and you can't move because it hasn't changed much since,
we had 17 million people and now we have 40 million people.
Are you mad when you get a power bill and it's 40 cents a kilowatt?
I think it's all those things. So he wants to get out. Where would he go?
That's a good question. Well, I could just quote the figures of where your like-minded people go,
because I haven't gone yet, but I know where people go. The three biggest, four, there's two criteria.
One is, what state in a cost of benefit analysis gives you the best return on your taxes?
And that seems to be Florida and Tennessee, to a lesser extent, Texas.
Next criteria is, what state gives you sort of the best return on your investment as much as, as much as can happen
close proximity to California. So that would mean, and is not a harsh climate, like Alaska or something.
So you, that people looking at those criteria, I would like to go to Florida. I would like to
go to Tennessee. I would like to go to Texas, but I have family in California and I kind of
miss the climate and I miss the outdoors. So I'm going to move to Arizona, not New Mexico,
Arizona, not Colorado, Arizona. And I'm going to move to Nevada, no state income tax. And I'm going
to move to Idaho, maybe Southern Idaho, Boise, maybe in some cases, Utah. So that's what they do.
And then you're going to be audited for three years. And Bill, if you try to leave, make sure
that if your business is in Palo Alto, your properties, and you need to come back to California,
I can tell you, as I talked to the
all of these people who do it, the state franchise board will go after you because they don't want to
lose people like you because you are part of the one or 5% that pays for the 95% and the 50% who
don't pay income tax in California. So don't go to an ATM and get $2,000 next time you go out of
state back to California. When you leave and you're going to be in California for two or three months,
you're going to be in California for two or three months. So don't go to an ATM and get $2,000.
I mean, put it at 60 degrees because they will subpoena it. Don't use a credit card because
they'll see where you filled up. I only say this not because I've ever done this, but I hear from
people how they got caught for spending too much time in California and then being subject to
California income tax.
Yeah. Well, Victor, that is it for today. Thank you so much for all of your reflections for our
listeners and our viewers.
Thank you.
And thanks to the audience for joining us on this weekend.
Thanks, everybody, for listening.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Putin views the fall of the Soviet Union as the greatest tragedy of the 20th century, believing Russia once dominated the world and now seeks to restore its influence through energy control, geopolitical manipulation, and weakening of the West.
Victor Davis Hanson critiques U.S. foreign policy interventions, arguing that actions such as bombing Iran or invading Libya should be evaluated through a cost-benefit analysis, emphasizing that force should only be used when it serves national interest and minimizes loss of life.
Hanson challenges left-leaning narratives, asserting that both Iran and historical figures like Obama committed massive atrocities without proper oversight, and that current political criticism of Trump is often rooted in ideological hostility rather than factual assessment.
Summary:
S. foreign policy and geopolitical perceptions, focusing on the views of Russian leader Vladimir Putin and the rationale behind strategic interventions. S.
influence—such as through the Nordstream pipeline or by supporting anti-American regimes like Cuba or Venezuela. Hanson emphasizes that interventionism must be guided by a cost-benefit analysis, arguing that actions like bombing Iran or Libya were not justified by their outcomes or costs. S.
foreign policy, pointing out that Obama’s actions—including bombing Libya and Serbia—lacked congressional approval and caused massive civilian casualties, while dismissing claims that Trump’s foreign policy was reckless. Hanson further critiques the portrayal of Iran and Israel, asserting that Iran’s regime is internally corrupt, ideologically fanatical, and economically strained, and that its global ambitions are tied to a Shia crescent that includes Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis. He also condemns the toxicity of the Women’s National Basketball Association (WNBA), describing it as a violent, racially charged environment fueled by political extremism and unchecked power.
The discussion concludes with a broader critique of social media’s role in spreading misinformation, promoting sensationalism, and enabling anonymous, harmful behavior, warning of a society detached from ethical accountability. S. may require moving away from California’s high costs and political inefficiencies.
FAQs
Putin believes that the Soviet Union once dominated the world, and its collapse weakened Russia. He sees this as a loss of global influence and aims to restore Russia's former power and territorial reach.
Putin wants to weaken Western nations, especially through energy dependence, by pushing Europe to rely on Russian natural gas and creating anti-American alliances, such as by influencing Germany or resurrecting communist regimes like Cuba.
Jacksonian policy emphasizes cost-benefit analysis: using force only if it is in national interest, minimizes bloodshed, and achieves strategic goals without excessive cost or risk.
According to the Jacksonian analysis, it is not in U.S. interest to invade Iran due to high costs and risks. Instead, economic sanctions and non-military pressure are considered more effective and cost-efficient.
Critics argue that Obama conducted numerous military operations without congressional approval—such as bombing Libya, Serbia, and Afghanistan—demonstrating a disregard for democratic oversight and accountability.
Iran's theocratic leaders believe they are the 'purest' Muslims and seek to establish a Shia Islamic crescent, extending influence through countries like Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, and the West Bank, often at the expense of other nations.
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