What Comes on a Sausage Biscuit? with Kenny Mason

[MUSIC] >> Yeah, what the fuck is up? Welcome to my favorite lyrics, the podcast where we talk about music lyrics, except when we talk about other stuff. And today we got a very, very special guest. He's in town from Atlanta. He's somebody that I've actually been tapped into for quite some time. And I love when we get artists that I've enjoyed and appreciated. Welcome to the show. >> Kenny Mason. >> Hey, appreciate you having me, my boy. >> Yeah, yes sir. >> Yeah, yes sir, man. Yeah, you just came off a tour, yeah? >> Yeah, we came off, so I've been off a tour probably like three weeks now. But yeah, we did like 19, 20 dates around the US. >> What's your relationship with touring? Because I know like stand up comedian touring and that's like one type of thing. But as a artist, how do you, what's your relationship with it? How do you feel about it? >> I don't think it's, I feel like it's probably not that different from what you got to go with it. >> Brother, I'm going to tell you, it's very different. >> Okay, y'all are, y'all touring in a much cooler way than we are. I guarantee you that. >> Okay, you got, you got like a team of people. >> Yeah. >> I'd be with one homie. I'd be with like a one, I'd be with one buddy, and we'd be like basically like in a mall. We'd be, we'd be basically most comedy clubs are in like one time I did a show in like Salt Lake City. >> Right. >> And I looked out my window and it was a game stop in the Jimmy John's in a crumble cookie. And that was what I had to do. I was like, all right, I guess I'll make the most out of this. >> Oh shit. >> Yeah, like damn, that's worse than I thought it was. >> That is actually A's worse, my shit is way cooler, yeah. >> Yeah. [LAUGH] >> What's your relationship with tour, how do you? >> I love it, man. It's like you go out there and see all the folks, they having fun, you know what I'm saying, they know the words. They, it's all cathartic for them. They get all they fucking aggression out and washing and also having a good time. It's the fun and shit, honestly, it's the best part of making music. >> Do you, when you're on tour, do you like to, like what version of it do you like to do? Because I know some people on the road, they'll be like, I'm not doing nothing. I'm standing in a hotel till it's time for the show, I'm doing the show. And then there's other people are like, I'm doing whatever they got in the city. >> Yeah, I'm in the hotel, I ain't going nowhere. >> You post it up, I'm post it up, you know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> Everybody, it's too much, it's too much, rappers are in danger, you know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> Usually, so I'll be chilling for real. And I'm like introverted anyway, so, you know what I'm saying, I don't like talking to people. I gotta stand in front of like 500, 600 people every night anyway. >> Is it, do the cities feel the same to you or do they feel different? Like, if you're mostly just doing the show, can you feel the difference in the crowds? Or does it all feel kind of like, alright, I'm just doing the show, I'm just rocking out? >> Nah, I ain't going to lie, it's definitely different, it's definitely the West Coast crowd got a certain smell to, you know, not good or bad, it's just like a certain, you know, I ain't saying dance, they don't smell bad, it's just like, it's a certain scent. There's different in the East Coast, you know what I'm saying? >> Interesting. >> I've never heard anybody break it down my smell. It's just a different, you know what I'm saying? It's just different. And then, East Coast, they march different, it get real specific, the march piece is different, they look different, they're like a different shape on different sides of the coast. >> Interesting. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Interesting. What's shaping is it in New York? >> New York is like a perfect circle. >> Okay. >> Yeah, it's like organized, chaos. >> Yeah. >> The West Coast, it could be like oval, it could be like kind of hexagons, kind of get weird. >> Interesting. >> Yeah. I've never heard about Mosh Pit logistics in that type of way. >> Mm-hm. >> Damn, I never thought about it that way. Do you have a favorite touring city? >> It's hard to pick a favorite, I got like a top. I love Chicago. >> Okay. >> Chicago always showed me love. >> I love Chicago too. >> I don't really know why, but they just always just show love. >> Yeah. >> I mean LA's always turned, New York is always turned, it's always somebody like diving in the crowd, they're doing some dumb shit in New York. And I mean Atlanta's your home, so it's always like big family reunion when I'm there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I first, I mean I've been tapped in for a little minute, but I remember the first song, actually my homie Connor, who's been on this pod, put me on to you the first time when I heard hit. >> Oh shit. >> You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> And like that was like during the pandemic, I feel like we saw that. >> Yeah. >> Like probably right before. >> Yeah, like right in that zone, and I remember seeing that music video and being like, this is fun, it's fun, you know what I'm saying, can you tell me a little bit about like making that song and like coming up off it up? >> Yeah, that's when life was fun, right before the pandemic. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. >> It definitely felt like high look. But I was just young like doing dumb Atlanta shit, you know what I'm saying, and I feel like that song kind of like encapsulated the time of the fun of that everybody in the city was having, you know what I'm saying, like back then it was more of an underground scene and people were throwing like house parties and shit, like so the song kind of caught legs or like it's on weight in the community naturally, you know what I'm saying, like it kind of like did its own thing outside of me, and you know, so I'm grateful enough for the city propelling me, like I can't say though that I feel like now like it's getting back to that type of swag, like that type of like energy of 2019, I feel like it's coming back in the city and you know you got like new artists doing anything. >> I mean, it feels like for the last like 15 years it feels like Atlanta is where everything is happening. >> Yeah. >> And it also feels like from my homies that are from there they're always like yeah, the weird thing about Atlanta is it's like it's not big, it's like not a big city, it's not like. >> No, it's probably like a third of the amount of people here, not even in New York, not even like maybe a fourth, but it's like yeah, it's spread out, but it's like way less people. Everybody fucking know each other. Do you feel like, is it, do you feel like it's kind of like there's like different scenes within the, within the rap scene in Atlanta or do you feel like it's kind of like one big? >> No, it's definitely different little clicks, you know what I'm saying? I say it's usually like everybody cool, everybody know each other, know each other and it can cross over, but it's definitely little, it's sectors, just like geographically speaking. The east side got its own swag, they like hood is foot, but they artsy, you know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> So like a nigga that shoots you and he'd be a painter. >> Also, you know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> And then the west side is like- >> The shooters paint your beautiful murals. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah. >> And then the west side and then get shooting, he might be a pastor, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's just different, swag's on different sides, you know what I'm saying? But everybody usually know each other. >> Okay. >> And everybody got shooters regardless of- >> Everybody shooter. >> The everybody regardless of my grandma, you know what I'm saying? She got that far on her. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And let it be known, if he was about to try Kenny Graham mama, just know what it is. >> Just know what it is. >> Absolutely. >> Tell me about, I mean, I know you said they hit kind of like popped off around the city. Tell me about like, what's the process? I'm very curious about like how people like grow and how people kind of like get the word out about like what they're doing, how is that for you in the city? >> I think it's usually like, like I said, geographically like worried about like somebody being a certain kind of like scene usually or like, you know, I feel like, you know somebody popping off, you know some shit popping off if you hear that the gas station. Like if you had a certain gas station, that's why I'd be naming some of my songs out of the gas station, because that's what like, and letting everybody, if you had some shit going off on the gas station, usually it's about the bubble up or it's about to take off for real. I say that. But it's really just the energy of the people, bro. Like I can't even, you know what I'm saying, it's the night life, you know, that's how shit catch off for real. Like, you know, we ain't closed down during the pandemic, it was still going up. >> It's still going up. >> Yeah, people, it was, it was hookah and wings everywhere. >> Yeah, people was in a magic city with their masks on, bro, saying, which, you know, maybe we should have been masked up the whole time. >> I think so. >> Yeah, just like perpetually, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Just trying to, just trying to make sure everybody good. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It wasn't really, I wasn't prepared. I wasn't ready for it. Which one are you going to? >> We went to Onyx first. >> Oh, shit. >> We went to Onyx first, but something happened. I don't know what happened, but like something went down in the parking lot or something. And they shut the whole club down. >> Yeah. >> And we was, I was with my homey and her girl, and her girl, like, was like, oh, like, they was really like, they were like, we got to do it big. We got to do it big. We got to get the section. We got to get the table. And they were like, I was like, oh, how much is that? And they told me and I was like, we don't got to do it that way. We did it smaller than that, probably. And they were like, no, no, no, no, we got to, and so we figured that out. We put that money down. And then we got in there, we got our bottle or whatever. We probably was in there for 35 minutes. >> That's too low. >> And that was like, that's too long? >> That's too long. >> How long are you supposed to be in there? >> No, you supposed to do your little, you supposed to sit down. >> Uh-huh. >> A lot of love to get your section. >> Yeah. >> If you do faux songs, you know what I'm saying? And then you're starting getting ready to go. >> Interesting. >> So I was doing it wrong. I was using it way too long at the time. >> What's the right amount of time? >> What was about 20 minutes? >> Yeah, 20 minutes. You started going past 30 minutes, a stripper about the Robbie. >> Yeah. >> He's about to set you up a Robbie. >> It felt like that at some point. >> It felt like that at some time away. >> It was, I lost money in a way that like, I don't know what I had to show for it. You don't have to sit at the end. >> Yeah. >> I don't know what I, by the end of it, I was looking around being like, that's, that's so much more money than I thought it. >> Where did it get you? >> And where do you know what I'm saying? I'm still, I'm still where I'm at. If anything, I got like, you know, there's like a rhinestone on my, on my t-shirt now. >> Mm-hm. >> But a piece of glitter in your skin. >> Yeah, yeah, I got glitter that's not going to be off my body for probably about two to four years. >> And a story to tell. >> That's true. >> It was, it was a nice story. And then we went to another club after that where I forget what it was called. But it was somehow I got charged three different times before I got inside the, this actual establishment. >> That's loads. >> Because I was like, I didn't know that even, and I've been to strip clubs before, but I was like, man, I really, really. Finesse me in like a very special way was like when I got there there was two different lines there was two different lines and one of the lines was like moving fast right and one of the lines was slow as hell and it was like all right it's 20 ahead if you want to go on the fast line I was like you know what I put fast line money down that's fine did you meet the magical man in the bathroom what yeah who is no I didn't meet the magical man in the bathroom the man in the bathroom every strip club in Atlanta he just got everything you ever need oh got you condoms yeah like the Rhino pill yeah yeah he got anything you ever need hand sanitizer yeah anything anything I just want to hear you keep going down the list of stuff that he got oh yeah he got to take probably food in there too you know you got food in the bathroom snacks hey yeah you got it's just a magical man everybody everybody in Atlanta don't tell my son nigga in the bathroom okay everything ever yeah no taller than five six okay he got to be small so he can move around yeah he got to fit behind the dog so he'd be so he'd be behind the door a little stool and sometimes if you go to the bathroom the door just open that's him yeah and he and he gonna want a little tip before he before before you get out of there he's gonna get the tip there's no way you leaving the bathroom without the tip I got you hey man if you hey we we got to get a magical man on here you know what I'm saying yes if you want those magical man are you listening pull up on the pot they got to do they they got to be in the whole next they got to sit down in the Netflix chair oh they got to get the documentary yeah I'm saying the fucking man and bathroom at a strip club need their own thing yeah I'm I'm curious about this now I gotta go back I only been I only been that like one good time where I like really kicked it I gotta you went to the good one no unexious that's how we did we did we did a good time yeah yeah yeah tell me tell me about like growing up I mean I've read about some of your influences but tell me about like which was listening to kind of like as a as a young guy as a kid I was mostly listening to like Lorraine that was like my big introduction to rap what era of Wayne is this at this time this was like probably like Carter too like a little bit after Carter too when he started doing the drop mixtapes so like yeah 2006 2007 that's when it was going crazy that's when he was saying like the craziest shit yeah I don't know like I was just like yeah I think I'll start rapping because this nigga just cools me yeah yeah yeah yeah is a bar on the drought three weeks as I'm on the toilet watching Martin just laughing at shit and I was just like man that's it shouldn't sound as cool as it does laughing and shit you that shit is brilliant is right there yeah and I was like yeah I don't know he was just like he was in such a like perfect pocket during that during that stage that's the crazy way to just say you got a TV in your bathroom you filming that what a slick way to be like you know saying yeah how else yeah how else because how else yeah I've doubted it's like oh I got a view from the bathroom no it's not like that it's it's one in there no no he got a you wouldn't even be laughing at heart if you've had to go around the corner and he now the physical comedy not gonna compute in the same type of way yeah but check you were saying it was Wayne it was it was I mean my whole my mama from Bankhead and you know so she she you know she grew me up on like all school and other stuff but like you know she played a lot of outcasts too of course outcast is kind of like embedded in my DNA as far as like you know saying the the ability to make like I guess palatable songs but still still talk about like some of the crazy stuff in a song like crazy lyrics and just writing ability you know I mean shout out shout out the legends for real yeah I saw I saw Andre do the flu show you went to the flu show wait I said there was judgment in your voice now I just I felt I felt it no no no no judgment I literally just never talking to nobody who went to the flu show okay I went to the flu show it was at a church it was at a church in Brooklyn I was just kind of like because I didn't even listen to the flute album right but I just was kind of curious and so like me and the homies went it was at a church we were sitting on like like hard wooden pews and because there's that a church it's like a old like that district we know some of those like we were sitting on like a hard wooden bench okay and it was they didn't have the overalls on yeah yeah he's kept the overalls on like in in all capacity now I'm trying to think of a time like recently where he didn't have the overalls and you might have just did that for me like this nigga has had that you know he's really he's committed to a uniform and I can't tell if it's the same overalls or if he's like or if he's like Penny Proud and he's got like a whole closet for the new train where it's just like the everyday yeah I'll say this the most memorable part it was a pretty sleepy show with the most memorable part of the show it was sleepy it was sleepy it was sleepy in my vision was also on par because I was sitting behind like a like a pillar you know what I'm saying so I had to kind of do this I always wanted him church it was a church it was like a old like a Jim Crow church yeah it was an old segregationist church right you know what I'm saying and I remember the part that I remember the most is that he he asked everybody to like grow like their favorite animal no he did yes he did he had everybody you can I'm sure people talk about this in the internet he wanted everybody to make like animal sounds and so he was like he was like growling like a panther he was like I was like when I made this song I felt like a panther and then he went right he captured jaw soul his flute basically crazy basically it was it was something I'll never forget I'll say that I love Atlanta folks man do you do you do you want I'm trying to wrap again or do you feel like you we've got enough from him no I if he happy doing the flute keep doing it you know saying I would like to see him match the auto when instruments just go obo just go pick a low like no saying whatever he want to clear net all that we got to get you involved with with everything exactly like just keep keep the wind shit coming yeah I respect it also also to that same part of somebody who grew up on Wayne I got to ask you this how did you how do you feel as when he when he made the rock pivot how do you feel when he picked up the guitar um I cuz you've made a lot of rock influence music exactly if you would be trying to like oh you know saying I I liked it a lot I liked his like bravery with it yeah sure sure sure and I definitely remember religion just like kind of listening to it just cuz it was him you know saying because he had it he had it on lock in that type of way yeah where it was just like we was going to listen to anything that he ever did anything he ever did yeah so I love it I was I was more skeptical than you I didn't I didn't come with him as much okay I didn't come with him but uh but I do respect when people like take a hard pivot right everybody was mad at Drake when he made the dance record but I was like this is maybe the most interesting thing he ever did I imagine that it was a kid just like that too like how I was just like it's Drake so I'm going to do it so I'm with it yeah Drake fuck it I was doing it I was doing it it really made me want to it made me want to dance on a island right when I heard you know I'm saying yeah oh when you're ready I was like yeah yeah Drake yeah Drake I appreciate you're trying something yeah yeah yeah also you got a you got a you got a young thug shot out I did you do do you remember do you have you heard this you're in my hold on hold on one second hold on I think I know what you're talking about but I don't know if that I see I don't know you know okay I was like I was like this had to make his way back to you bro my hair canon is that he did but like I don't know you know saying what is how did you how did you feel when you when you when you heard it in that moment my my partner called me and he was like he was like slime just shut it shut it shut it shut it shut it I was like what do you mean he played the song and I was like I don't know bro I don't know you know what I'm saying he said I'll put his nigga wish that he could trade places I told a nigga you must be Kenny I'm going Mason yeah yeah I don't know though yeah I mean the sounds the way he said it is it a play on where I know he told my Mason Marjolid but like is it a play on words because what's the Kenny part he said well he said you must be kid he's saying like you must be kidding but the way he said it it sounded like Kenny I don't know it feels connected to me you know saying it feels connected to me it feels like a very like okay funnically like okay like I think we hear yeah the y'all the y'all know each of y'all got any relationship at all actually crazy enough like way way way back in the day like before like he popped up and I popped up we had like the same management and he always been like a superstar in Atlanta even before he like really popped up yeah so like I'm at we used to go to like his underground shows and like shit like that so damn that's so fly I bet that's when I was in like high school though like a younger shit damn you know high school going to like underground young thugs shows hey yeah not supposed to be there yeah yeah yeah I'm sure them shit was lit too yeah yeah dodging bullets yeah yeah yeah I can imagine yeah is that point did he had it did he have like did he have like Danny Glover was that was that it was right before that okay it was literally like probably like two months before like right before that summer when that shit dropped and watching that drop was crazy like his manager played actually played it for his like right before it came out which I managed at the time like he's like what y'all think they saw and I was like this year to hit but actually it's gonna be crazy I'd never heard nothing like it before what I remember I remember the first time I heard it I was like I was in school I was like in college and I was like walking I like downloaded it off like pigeons and planes or something like that when the blogs were popping it out really I like I like had to stop and sit down man wait you feel me I can't believe his voice is doing it you know yeah like shot shots that nobody nobody ever doing it like him no no no no yeah he actually like he got one of my lyrics that I brought hit a day from pushing p yes got you okay why don't you give that give that to the people all right (clearing throat) I just fucked a couple of water. (whistles) (laughing) So like, I write lyrics all day. Like, this is what I do, you know what I'm saying? So like, it'd be cool, like, shit'd be cool, but it's like, the shit that impressed me is be like, it'd be like, shit that I never even thought I could say. - And you never even like thought that it could be that. - I never thought that a nigga could say that. Like, I fucked a couple of water is like, what the fuck? - And when you heard it, when you were like, "Oh, I know what he's on," or were you like, "Oh, no." (laughing) I feel like that's the first time anybody ever put that sequence of words together. - And I feel like Doug does that a lot of times. - You know what I'm saying? I feel like regularly, he's saying some shit that you're like, "Oh, I never phrased that, never was phrased before." Like, what the fuck do you mean? - Future is a common topic on this podcast. - Okay. - He comes up quite a bit, and I feel like he's somebody who does the exact same thing. - Yeah, like, they brain just to hit ours. - You feel me? - So, somebody shit. - I've been listening to the new future record quite a bit, and he just has a bar where he goes, "I hit her in the bath, no bubbles." (laughing) And it's, it's a hold on. Let me find the actual, let me find the actual thing because it really got me, and I was like, bro, this really is like a one-of-one artist, 'cause like, how come there's no bubbles in that future? How come, hold on, what does he say? - He goes, I don't know, it's not that long. - You think it's like, 'cause shit got jumping off so fast, the he and he had time to put the bubbles in. - Well, but it's like, if you got time to put the water in, you got time to put the bubbles in. - But it was already cracking. (laughing) You know what I'm saying? - 'Cause it took 'cause the tub's still got to fill up. - It's like, it's from '28 to go ahead, what are you saying? - Like, on the wait, like, okay, I turn the water on. I turn around and go get the bubbles. It's already done up, I can't even get to the bubbles. - See, maybe see this, and this I know your tours are better than mine, 'cause that's not the type of stuff that's happening when I'm, I've never turned around and be like, oh, it's so much pussy. There's no time to figure anything else out. - Okay, I plan my route to the bubbles. (laughing) 'Cause I had a pussy anyway. That's, my tour looks different than that. I'll say that. The bar that's off of 2018, which is my favorite song on the future, a new future record. He goes, I'm a big dog, I'm a slutter, give a bad bitch to my brother. She a mixed breed, I'm a fucker. I hit her in the bath, no bubbles. - Yeah, it's not a single bubble in there. It feels, I mean, respect, respect, but it did really strike me that one, there was no bubbles in there and two, that he added that detail in the joint. - Yeah, you gotta understand the context. - That also just, it just feels so crazy to be fucking in the bath and it's just flat water. - Right. (laughing) - It's just, yeah, what kind of technique do you have where it's still water? - You feel me? - Crazy. - Yeah, pushing, pushing P also, incredible song too because it has one of my favorite bars that we've actually never talked about here on here where Gunna goes, she not a lesbian for P, she turned Pes being. - That was future, right? - Was that future? - That was future. - But why did he, what does that mean? You know what I'm saying? - She not a lesbian for P, she turned Pes being? - That song came out in 2022. - It does. - And nobody to this day know what a Pes being is. (laughing) - Nobody wouldn't go do day research on what the fuck that was. - And we gotta, you know what, that's our job. We actually, we should have here in my favorite leagues, we need to get to the bottom of what a Pes being is. - Yeah. - Future, if you're listening, reach out to us, we try to figure out what's going on with the Pes being community. Are they associated in the LGBT? Does the LGBT need a P in there as well for the Pes being community? - And it's just like. - Or is it actually an entirely separate thing? - And it's just like, how did he know about it? And we don't, you know what I'm saying? - It feels like future knows a lot of stuff we don't know about. - Name is future. (laughing) - You see what I'm saying? (upbeat music) - You brought some Travis Porter who like, they had shit lit for a good little minute. - Yeah, they was, they was turning, I think that lyric right there is like. - Go ahead, give it to the people. - Crazy storytelling. So, this is like a crazy way to open, this is like crazy exposition to tell a story to me. Breakfast at the White House, 20 sausage biscuits, right? Open the scene. - Yeah. - Then we go right into our main character strap. He go right into dialogue. Hull on a skew me male. What come on the sausage biscuit? Talkin' to the lady. 20 more orange juices. - Crazy. 20 more biscuits, even crazier. - You think they be covered on biscuits at this point? - No, so now we got 40 biscuits. - Right. - Got my team together. Now that's 20 naked bitches. Now we know why we got 20 sausage biscuits. - Right. - He had to say, 'cause at first it's kind of a mystery. - The reveal was crazy to me. - Right. - 'Cause at first we just like, damn, these things is hungry as hell. - Right. - They in 40 biscuits, just the homies? - The team was on the way. - Right. - Everybody was confused like why we got so many biscuits. And then he's like, 'cause he concerned like, what come on in? - Right. - I gotta, you know what I'm saying? - Very specific. 20 naked bitches come in. Now we know why. - Now it all makes sense. - Yeah. - That's also a type because he goes, he goes, he orders 20 sausage biscuits. He says to the lady, we need 20 sausage biscuits. The next sentence after that, he goes, "Hey, what come on the sausage biscuit?" - Yeah. - It's like brother, you already, it's the one that's on the menu. And two, you already put it in the order. You can't be asking after the fact. - This is how we live in life, don't you? (laughing) - Sure, sure. - Order first. - We order first as questions later. In the meantime, I like to imagine it'd be very funny to me if they started making the 20 biscuits. And they was like, "Hey man, what's on the sausage biscuits?" And they said something and he's like, "I actually, we don't need on the sausage." Like, actually, we don't need something different. I'm like, fuck. Now we got all these sausage biscuits. - And then you got to order, then you got to do something else 'cause they still on the way. - Right. - It's also instructions on how to properly go to a walkhouse. - Mm-hmm. - Is that the order? It's 20, we 20 biscuits deep? - And not even about the order. It's just how you got to arrive. - Mm-hmm. - And I'd be sober going to a walkhouse. - Yeah, that's fair. He also spelled out intoxicated, which is, I've heard a lot of things get spelled out. I don't think I've heard intoxicated get like letter by letter. - Yeah. - And honestly, it took me a second to grasp it because I wasn't ready for what was going on. - It was like the perfect amount of syllables, too, like the, I am the pentameter of it. It was like, super important. - Yeah. - Brilliant. - He hit me, it's not a lot of things that get spelled out that got an X in 'em. - It's R-E-S-P-E-C-T. - Yeah, yeah. - Usually words like that. - X is-- - He got an X in there. - Yeah, X is a crazy pool. - You feel me? - Last five letters of the alphabet is crazy. - Those don't get used a lot. - Yeah. - That way in the back. - Yeah, if you're a young artist and you're listening and you're thinking about trying to spell something out in a song, get a cue in the mix. Get some letters that maybe we haven't seen or conceived of before. That's, Kenny, I'm gonna pose that to you. - I'll try. - Next projects. I'm gonna need some new type of letters in there. I'm gonna try for real. - I'm gonna try to do X and Y. - Let's get both of those in there. Let's get a U in there. You feel me? It's Z, Z feels like it's a lot you could do with a Z. I'm not really impressed with a Z, but if you could get a Q in there somewhere. - I'll try to get a Q in there, it's a nice little Q. - I'd appreciate that, man. I think there's so much fun at Lennon's stuff to talk about, but is there any other city or scene that you also have a good appreciation for throughout what's going on? Wait, also, before you answer that question, I'm curious, you were breaking down at Lennon and basically you were like, all right, there's different sections and different areas. What part of the scene do you feel like you part of? - That's a good question. I feel like I've fought with Ariaside. I got people on every side. I feel like I'm mostly in the, well, I'm from the West side, from Camelton Road, like that part, there's the swats, it's West side, but kind of lower. So that's the part I grew up in, and that's kind of got its own sweat, but I feel like as I got older, I started experiencing more of Eastern Lennon, kind of Eastern Lennon Village, and the more alternative scene doing that type of stuff, whereas a bunch of fucking people with tattoos walking around in shows and metal shows and shit like that. - And that's, I'm curious, 'cause at least from what I heard of your earlier stuff, there was less, there was less of the rock influence that I would like come to find later. Is that something that you always wanted to do? - Yeah, it was something that I always like, well, I grew up listening to like, alternative music for sure, like on my own merit, but as far as like, making that type of music, I kind of kept it to myself. - Yeah. - Until about, I say like, 2018, 2019, when I started actually like recording songs and getting into that scene, like as an adult on my own, and just building the confidence to like pop out with that type of stuff as like a black boy, you know what I'm saying? - Yeah, was it, and how did you, like, did you, was there a feeling of like, oh, this might not be like what people are really trying to fuck with, or was like, was there like a hesitation behind or what was the hesitation behind it? - Well, yeah, at first it was a hesitation, but honestly, when I, the first few times I, I kind of did something with that sound. Like, I actually got like encouraged to do it from like a lot of my peers, you know? Like, they said it felt like real natural coming from me and like, I think everybody pretty much supported it, you know? Like, and then my fan base, like my core fan base, definitely like, love that type of sound for me and for it with it for sure. - Yeah, yeah. - I think it's cool. Like I said, I really have an appreciation for anytime. Like, anytime somebody is like, has a sound that like, initially people are like, oh, I know like this person, they do that thing. Anytime they like push against it, I'm always like. You know, even if it's not like I said Andre did the flute thing it wasn't my favorite stuff It wasn't my favorite so but I really did appreciate like oh you know what people want from you But you're like following like exactly what you want to make right which is I feel like what like the best artists do and I feel like You know the the thing about being an artist is like this to the stuff that you like like it'll always be there like you know Say you you always have that version of the artist to be able to go and listen to you know saying and appreciate mo It's like that famous Jay-Z line niggas won my old shit by my old album by my old album. Hey, man. It's all there what's um like Going going forward. I mean because you've actually you put out a lot of music in the last like few years. I feel like you've been very Consistent yeah with like putting things out which I also have noticed from Atlanta artists just sort of in general Like I feel like Doug has always like been like putting like mash it out future always got like mash it out Do you so Gucci was like that too? Yeah, just was like probably like lead the horse lead lead lead lead that type of shit like just like Drop a hell of a mix taste for like Gucci lead that Type of swag. Do you feel like so you feel like that is like you feel like that's like in the culture I feel like being from Atlanta. That's just like how we record like we were just just always recording live in a studio And for me like I mean that literally like I got I've always had a studio in my house. Oh, yeah I'm recording every day whether it's like Whether I am working on the album or whether I'm not like I'm always recording. So I always got material to work with you know It really just like comes down to Building the idea around the songs to be able to present it, but I always got songs I always making music. I'm trying to like perpetually stay in the state of creativity. I guess you ever take vacations No, I should it I try to use my work as vacations. I know that ain't good brother I'll be telling everybody I'll be telling my barber this. I'll be like bro Take a vacation you gotta go you gotta go you gotta you gotta balance it You tell your barber to take a vacation. Oh, yes every time I see him every time I see him like a bro You took a vacation yet and he hasn't sometimes will be like yeah, I took a day off and I'll be like What did you do and who'd be like oh, I like I went to like a barber convention? Like well, no well actually that's work. You actually took the day off of work to go to work I just think I don't know. I'm very much a proponent of like oh you like Obviously like it's there's a lot of time to work, but I'm also like you got it What do you do when you like? What do you do when you want to chill? What do you want it? What do you do? When you want to be like all right. I'm going to enjoy the fruits of my labor. I Don't know you sell my therapist right now I can't even see if your therapist sounds correct. You're still there for sounds right. Yeah, facts No, yeah, I should it I should definitely like plan over vacation stuff I I guess I kind of just like I like being by myself. I like being at home, you know I'm like I'm like introverted and shit. I don't really go out. So for me like if there was days Why I just chill at home low-key is my vacation, you know I said fair enough as somebody who also does enjoy just being at the crib solo it does It like recharges you in a way that like very few things can't I feel like sometimes, but you're absolutely right That was real got to be intentional about that type of stuff where do you where would you go? Hmm, I always wanted to go to Japan So I feel like that's gonna be my next like endeavor for show. We'll talk. I went I went in the fall I went for the first time now somewhere. I always wanted to go yeah, yeah, and it's worth it I'll send you some shit. Yeah, if I should ever go out there. Oh, really? Yeah, it's a it's a very good time and especially like I went solo to it So I really was just like walking around the city like alone. You feel like it was better that way I don't know if it was better, but it definitely was like it made me Get out of my comfort zone because like if you go with somebody that you know, then y'all just gonna be like running around together Mm-hmm It made it so that like every night that I was there like I would be like having dinner a lot of times I wouldn't I'll just have been walking around the city. So I didn't talk to anybody all day Mm-hmm. So at the end of the day. I'm like having dinner. I'm having drinks. I'll be like all right If I don't strike up a conversation with somebody here like I'm not gonna talk to nobody all day. Was they touching your hair? Yeah, so here's the thing So here's the thing I've talked about this on I was talking on this other podcast about this exact same thing Right, here's the thing about Japan and and black people it goes it goes one of two ways right? It is either like they are avoiding you because they like I'm I'm also like tall So it's like I was the biggest person in every Establishment like everywhere I was I was much big. I was on the train Everybody was like I'm so much bigger than most Japanese people. Yeah I'm pretty all of them. I'm gonna say all of them. Okay, you know, but Am I supposed to say? I don't know. Maybe that's not I Don't know I can say I'm bigger than Jeff. That's not is that bad. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know I don't know what you can yeah, whatever. Well, I was there. I saw it. So just bring a Japanese person on his neck Yeah, yeah, if you're Japanese and you're if you're Japanese and you're bigger than me and you're listening to this Pull up to the pod and all in and I'll eat my words But at least when I was in there when I was in the homeland you also Biggest person in every establishment, but uh, yeah, I was there by myself and like every night I'd just be like all right. Let me like I met mad people that way. Okay, you know, I met mad people just cuz I was like This is it like made me do that and and there's a lot of Americans out there. You're right Yeah, you're bumping a lot of Americans and most Japanese people that I came across speak some English So you can like yeah, like get around. I would imagine so I did find myself doing this thing I've talked about this in standard before I found myself doing this thing where I am I Was trying to speak more Japanese, but then I would get too nervous to speak Japanese to the Japanese people because I thought I was gonna Do it wrong. So then I would just do I would speak English and like a in like a Japanese accent which feels worse and more racist Okay So can I hear an example? No, no, you're not getting that on record. I already admitted to a thing I'm not proud of I'm not doing it on a recorded line. That's crazy They about to be on my head. I already said I'm bigger than that. I don't even know I'm just trying to understand the concept I don't know if I you know saying we'll talk about off when the mics get cut off. Right. I'll tell I'll give you an example What I did, okay cool? We also we I brought in some of some of your lyrics that I wanted to talk about oh shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah This is one of your favorite songs in mind is much money with the you and Fred Gibbs, right? Okay, and in the in the first Lot of the song you go. You ain't fit and ain't finna argue ain't nobody harder. Ain't finna argue with nobody daughter Okay Did that stem from was there a daughter that she was arguing with? Yes I was always curious about that cuz it's like in rap music just in general sometimes you're like, oh is this just like a projection you know what I mean is this are you just like talking just like saying like all right I ain't about to do this or like did it get influenced by like a real life situation. It was just it was like I argued with somebody daughter. Yeah, and I was like I got I got a make-up a version of myself. They didn't do that So you were you were more trying to put a positive affirmation out exactly. He was trying to be you. I was like, well, I did it no longer I did it yesterday. Sure. Yeah, but y'all looking backwards. I'm trying to look out there now. We done. Yeah, we're not doing that New me on much money is not finna argue with nobody daughter. I like that. I like that. I want to start doing that I want to start doing that and also like right into that you go you only bossy cuz somebody spoiled you Is that also related to the same situation? I was slandering her She got a real rise out of me It's so not even about that. I just you just had to get that off your chest and I would get to keep telling my money I like that you were like look I'm gonna get into the money stuff eventually Yeah, but first off, do you think the person who that was about do you think they knew it in that she love it? Oh, she loved it really. Yeah, the people oftentimes like getting mentioned and there's like when they pick up on something's about them Do they like does anybody ever feel the type of wares everybody like yes? I appreciate it I feel like people like the cloud like yeah, that's about me interesting like even though you didn't say her name And you didn't even give her no like identifying nah, but you know, you know And that it that didn't make the fight worse. No, no, no, she liked that shit Respect respect respect. Um, what do we see? What else? What else we got in here? It should'll get bloody like Mary Which like I like I like that line because it's It does two things right it does two things. It's like it's like don't fuck with me But it also is like reminiscent of just like a tasty breakfast drink Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, because the next line after that is this shit will get bloody like Carrie Which like that's scary that's just that's scary right like that is you don't want to be bloody like that She got it, you know something, you know, they they pranked her they prank her at her high school was actually a pretty traumatic moment for her Yeah, the other one the bloody Mary thing. I was like I get bloody like that Okay, you I get boy. I get bloody like Mary that feels I like I like when I like when something feels Threatening but also at the same time you're like happy like I guess it could also be like huh sexy in the city Carrie Whoa a bloody Mary I like that did you did we just both find something new in your lyrics. Hey Come on, and that's what we do on the show That's what we do on the show he wrote he wrote it. He just found something new. Hey there you go Is there ever has there been anything as there ever been any bars that you feel like people Misinterpreted or like didn't understand like when we had We had Black on the show, and he was talking about a time when-- - That's my boy. - Yeah, yeah, cool, cool people. He was talking about when LeBron got his lyrics wrong. Do you know about this? - Oh yeah, did he just get it wrong? He just straight up didn't say it. - He's just like babbling. - It seemed like he was just bad. It seemed like he kind of just didn't know what they were. And LeBron loves to get on Instagram and perform a song that he just heard for the first time. - Right. - He doesn't do like a classic one. He likes to do one that just came out. And he only knows every like seventh word. - The confidence. - I mean, I guess if you're LeBron-- - Yeah. - How could he's like, I got it. - You feel me? I saw him like in person one time. We were like at the same thing. And I was just like, man, like, if I was like, he's just like, he looks so different than any other type of person you've ever seen before. - You feel me? - What do you mean? - He's just like, he's giant. He's like a giant. He's like a real giant. And I was like, oh yeah, if I was like that, you couldn't tell me shit either. I'd also be the most confident person you ever saw. - Yeah, you know? - I don't know why he does that, though. He's like, he's putting himself on camera. - Yeah, he like, like a imaginary friend. So I'm just like, you know, you don't know the lyrics. I'mma just say the lyrics. I don't know his praise. - And he does it a lot. - I'm praying he do it in my, like, that's my dream. - Yeah. - I want that over with Grammy. - Is there a particular song that you would like it to be? - It don't even matter, bro. - Okay. - Just please, fuck up the lyrics. - Just like, LeBron, if you're listening, we know that you are, come on, do a Kenny song. - Yeah. - Do a Kenny song next. There's one where he's in the gym, and it's from like maybe like four or five years ago. And he's dancing to like a, like a baby Kim song. - Yeah. - Have you ever seen this? He's like, in the gym, and he's literally, he's like, he's like, (sniffling) - Yeah! (laughing) - Yeah, it's, I'll find it. I got a lot of stuff to send you. And you've got to do the accent. (laughing) - Okay, you know what, I'll do it. I'll do it when we cut the cameras. - Right. - I'll do it when we cut the cameras. Has there ever, have you ever run into that situation when somebody didn't get your lyrics right today, like, or there was like confusion around, like one of your bars? - Yeah, they do it all the time. Even though genius is just like straight up wrong. - Interesting. - But anything in particular? - So, man, I'm trying to think on when I really come to mind. It'll just be like dumb stuff that don't make sense. It'll be like, like, even though much money, like, ain't finna argue with nobody's daughter, they'll be like, ain't finna argue nobody dodged her. And it's like, what are we talking about? - Wait, also, to that point, let me ask you this. You know, like, on like Spotify or like Apple Music, when it, like, has the lyrics put up? Do you submit those, or does it just like, automatically like, populate those? - No, they do it in a LeBron. They just try to, they're just doing like, whatever feels. - They're trying to figure it out, they still here. - Okay, I was always, they're like, yeah, he said that, this is what he's got to be what he said. - Okay, interesting. - But that happens if I don't submit my lyrics fast enough, I guess. - Okay, 'cause you can, like, put them in yourself so the thing, like, got it right. - They ask me too, so I guess it's kind of my fault. (laughs) - Just do that. - Just do that. - I gotta shoot. - Okay, but there's, there's, I was trying to say, I try to put them out, like, I try to put out the lyrics, just like, on my Instagram or something, just for like, fans, like, just so they got 'em. Is there, is there anybody? I mean, I feel like you've worked with so many cool people at this point. Is there anybody that's still like, like, on the list that's just like, oh, I'm trying to like, I'm trying to work with, like, blank? - Yeah, I definitely got a list. I definitely like, some of my favorite bands, like, I would love to do something with DevTones, stuff like that. I mean, hey, I guess, I love a list. I mean, me and Thott, they'll have a song. Yeah, I would love to do that. - Yeah. - Just, I don't know. I'm down to work with anybody for real that I think is cool, like, even people that's like newer or whatever, like, I'm saying, I'm always making music, and I'm always trying to be creative, and I'm always trying to learn from other artists, so, you know. - Is there anybody that, I always like, ask an artist, is there anybody that you like right now that you think the fans might not know about? - I ain't really been that up on a newer artist for real, like, like I should, so I don't know. I feel like, everybody that I've been listening to everybody kind of know about already. - Got you. - Who have you been listening to, just out of curiosity? - I've been listening to, I fought with Slayer, you know what I'm saying? I've been listening to, like, a lot of the new Atlanta folks, like, "Diamond and Teasers," and all of them, you know what I'm saying? (laughs) - Remember, I was like, I was like, I was like, is there anybody new? You were like, "I don't wanna, I don't be listening to nobody new." - Oh. - And then you're like, "Yeah, this new guy." - I mean, they knew, but I mean, I thought she meant, like, 'cause everybody know them already, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, they blown up, you know what I'm saying? They don't do anything. - What is it, what is it again? - Diamond and Teasers. - I don't know if I know them. - Oh, man, you gotta put your own, they like, they, son of a YSL, they like, the newer sonies. - Okay. - I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta go pee. - They turn, they shit hard. - Okay, that's what's up. Well, before we get out of here. - Yeah, we exchange. - Well, we definitely gotta do that, 'cause you gotta, you gotta hear my voice that I did. Before we get out of here, we got a voice mail from a fan, so grab a handphone, right here. (upbeat music) - Devon and guests, what up? Big fan of the podcast. Shout out to Caleb here on the side, found you guys. Anyway, lyrics to get into. The first one that's crazy to me, that I don't know if we let it slide or not. Money bag, yo, speak for 'em, the lyrics are, I got open, I'm licking her titties, give her dick, she'd come back a frisbee. She's definitely meant boomerang. (laughing) - I don't know if we let that slide, but. - I like, okay, interesting. He definitely did mean that. But I guess a frisbee could come back to you. - Well, I guess my first thought was like, he's in a friendly place, and he threw his frisbee. And somebody's like, I gotta return his frisbee, you know what I'm saying? - And somebody's like, yeah, you're gonna need this, right? - That's what he meant, yo, I'm in a nice place, everybody got nailed, he's, you know, saying hospitable. You're gonna return my frisbee to me. - Sure, sure, sure, so far. - It's gonna find its way back to you. - Right, all right, let's hear what else he got going on. - Let's see. - That's the crazy lyric. Now, the lyric that I like that I heard, I was late to the game on the album as a whole, but Kanye West breathed in, breathed out. The one of the best lines in the song, pulling up in the Lexus is one on both hands. So I guess then G.S. is, was Andy Dexterous. Also, crazy bars. And then honorable mention is the line in, my president is black when he said, I will email Jesus. I don't know if you meant that was kind of crazy, but I liked it. Appreciate it. - Wow, wait, so how was he driving two Lexus? Were both hands, did I miss that? - No, that is what he said. He said, pulling up in the Lexus is one on both hands. So I guess them G.S. is, was ambidextrious. Kanye loves to make up a word. The next line after that is, "Cut us horn, her breast is, was sending me messages." - Yikes. - But how was he, I'm just thinking about him being like, like, doing both doors open? - Yeah, and you trying to, maybe one is like German, so it's, oh, so it's on the other side. - Oh, but then he, and then he really interrupted. - I've got like feet spread. - Sure, I don't know. It seems complicated at best. At the worst, he made up some shit that didn't really happen. - Seems like so, he definitely had to tell us about. - I mean, yeah, if you did do that, you'd do gotta put that on the track. - Yeah. - And then, yeah, did you know about this G.S. bar? - I'm an email Jesus. - Yeah, have you? - I've never heard that. - I don't remember this from that song. Now hold on, we gotta revisit it. Huh, my nephews and nieces, I will email Jesus. Tell 'em to forward the Moses. Oh, oh shit. - He trying to get everybody involved on a call. Oh, I see, he trying to get the whole New Testament. - Yeah, everybody that's around in there. Whoa, okay, hold on, okay. I wonder what the email is about. - Right, it seems kind of important. - He said, by my nephews and nieces, I will email Jesus. Tell 'em to forward the Moses and C.C.A.L.A. - Oh shit. - Oh, everybody involved in this situation. - We gotta find out what that email is about. - Whoa, hold on. Let me scroll back up in the lyrics. Bush robbed all of us with that making my criminal and he cheated in Florida with that making my seminal. - Ugh, come on. - What a crazy bar. (laughing) Nah, he was snapping. - He was going crazy. - Damn, my president is black. Brad, I can't believe like, somebody should make like a dated version like my president is orange. For my day. - Brother, you got to be the change you want to see in the world. That could be you, you could have that out tomorrow. - Oh, no. - Yeah, I guess it's not, it's probably not resonating. We probably got to get kid, we got to get kid rock on that. - Exactly. - You know what I mean? - Somebody more appropriate. - Yeah, and that's not really gone. That's not really gonna go. Also, Moneybag Yo, saying she come back like a Frisbee really reminds me of, there's a future bar where he says, he goes, "My ring cost, it's pink like a ostrich." And I'm like, "Ah, future, you think about a flamingo, brother." (laughing) - You're thinking about a flamingo, but I get it, they're both Lanky Birds. - People do shit like that all the time. - Uh huh. - And then like a Lillioted shit where he's saying, she blew my dick like a cello. - Yeah, he does say that. - That's just a string instrument. - Yeah, you don't blow on that at all. - Your mouth not even supposed to be involved in the cello. - Yeah, it's like a waving. - No, it's all the way. - Yeah, it's over here. Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of that Yadi also is a barry says He goes I walked in with a brown stick like a Disney wizard She walked in she walked in my room heard her scream. Guess she's seen my lizard And I was like oh, okay, so it's like so you got a lizard in your room right that's incredible That's not what I would have thought you had going on. I didn't take him for a reptile guy, but Why I just I don't even think yeah, it sounded like there's like actually literal that doesn't sound like you know saying the brown stick It's like I get what he's got going on, but he might have actually like unironically meant like I had to listen in my room And he started this girl. I do think that yeah, like I think that's exactly what he was talking about It's just I guess I just never heard a rapper talk about having a pet reptile on the track So shout out the boat wherever wherever you are man Respect Kenny That's all the time we got for today, but but thank you so much for pulling up and One more time tell people where they can find the album all that Found an album boy dog by Kenny Mason on all platforms man. Thank you. I for listening. 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