West Virginia Penitentiary | The Disturbing History Behind the Most Haunted Prison in America

Hank joined BJ's Wholesale Club the day he became a father of 30. I coach football. Now Coach Hank saves up to 25% off grocery store prices, 30 pounds of pasta, 3 cases of protein bars, 75 sports drinks. And that's just pre-game. He knows teamwork. And BJ's knows savings. This is your home, Coach. Home of the Save. Join for just $20 at bjs.com/mesquite and save 10 cents per gallon for 6 months. Open soon. Limited time offer. New members only. BJ's. Home of the Save. It was initially built as a temporary prison built of wood. But it would soon become a massive state penitentiary. In the decades that followed, its halls would be engulfed in violence, disease, and death. And after 119 operational years, it closed its doors for good, leaving behind a nearly abandoned estate with countless stories of bloodshed. Today, in preparation for our ghost hunt at this very location, we're looking into Westford, D.C. Virginia Penitentiary. This is Red Web. Welcome back, Task Force, to another episode of Red Web, the podcast all about unsolved mysteries, true crime, and the unknown. I am your resident mystery enthusiast, Trevor Collins. And joining me, hearing this case for the very first time, Alfredo Diaz. All right. Hearing about it, but we're actually going to go to the location. So that's a little, you know? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know how I like that. I don't know how to feel about that. I know, I know. So I guess the things I'm going to hear here are the things we're going to be exploring, which sets a different tone for me mentally. I don't think we've done, like, an itentiary. No, no. We did a hospital twice. We've done an inn. Yeah. It was kind of like a house, a mansion, an inn, an estate. We've done the USS Hornet. So, like, a battleship, kind of, or an aircraft carrier. Oh, yeah. That was good. That was unique. Yeah. That was cool. But now, estate penitentiary. I don't know. Should I just go in with, like, a cholo drip or something like that? You know what? You know what I mean? Bandana. You know, a little sleeveless. A little teardrop. Like, "What's up, Holmes? Any goals here?" You know what I mean? "Any goals here?" What? Wait. "Any goals here?" "Any goals here?" "Any goals here?" What? "Any goals here?" "Any goals here?" "Any goals here?" Was that you whistling, or was that you, like, swinging just random nunchucks that you pulled out of your pockets or something? It could be anything, man. I don't know why. Okay. Okay. I just heard my uncles do that all the time. They're like. Like, a little swishing noise. Like, "Hey! What's up, folks?" I'm like, "What?" Are we brushing something on the street? What's happening here, bro? Like, what is. Are we. I don't know. But it's just engraved into that, like, Spanish kind of, like, hood culture. Okay. Okay. We just. Swish noise. Swish noise. I don't know what to do with the ghost at that point. You might. You might. You know? A different approach. You know? A ghoul from 1868 is, I think, going to relate to that swish knife. Hey. You know, gamers. Game recognized game. You know what? I can't go in there being scared. You know? Mm-hmm. I'm not going to drop anything on the ground. I don't want to. The last thing I want. The last thing I want is to feel a touch on the booty. A little. A little pressure on the cheek. Golly. What's going on with this? It's a prison, man. I'm trying to get myself, like, in the headspace of a prison ghost. You know what? That's very fair. And it's almost the most appropriate time to genuinely point to. Because the nature of the encounters we have at this location task force, if you want, we do have sensitive topics in the description. It is, as Fredo's saying, a prison. And it was around for quite some time. It has a very dark history. We're going to go through all of it. Now, I do want to say, Fredo. Yeah. We put up four or five. This is part of last year's, by the way, five-year anniversary stream. We're finally building up to the travels ghost hunt here. And so we put it to you, task force, at redwebpod.com, our Patreon page, to vote on where we were going to go. And everyone loved Waverly. And we were. The sanatorium, we were going to go there. And, girl, they are booked out for the year. They drop a release date like they're Pokemon cards. That's crazy. Like a great. Yeah, like a sushi restaurant. There's a popular sushi restaurant here in Austin. They open their books twice a year. And then it just fills out for the entire year. Didn't realize that it was like that. Now, that place says scariest whatever in all of America. I'm more inclined to believe that. They got the attention to support it. But that's, yeah, good on them. Yeah. Task force, we did an episode on that place if you want to go check it out. But that's the place with the body shoot. It's huge. It's widely covered. But I'm really excited about this one because it is in West Virginia. It's way up north. A lot of people told us to then go to Point Pleasant because that's just down the Ohio River. That's your Mothman story of it all. But you're in the far north reaches of the Appalachian Mountains. So you still have a lot of that folklore tumbling around there. West Virginia is a beautiful state. Yeah. I will say. The sister episode to this, our actual ghost investigation will be dropping today as well as this episode. And I'll also say, given that we're actually in real time going to record that this weekend due to some personal events that came up in my life, it's very unlikely that I'll be able to join. And I hate that that's happening. But Fredo and Christian are going to hold it down. Shane is going to be there to be filming them. And we also, Fredo, just plug your ears for a second. We put a new task force in another poll to basically choose a place for one of us to isolate, to investigate first. And so that poll is still up. Well, I mean, it's now it's past tense, but it's happening right now. People are voting on it. And so, you know, one of these two boys. It's got to be a part of the Patreon. Yeah. Got to be part of the Patreon. Choose your own adventure with the with us here. Don't like that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like that at all. They always choose. The task force always chooses the worst thing ever. Mm hmm. They couldn't have chose like the ghost hunter being a park in broad daylight. No. Right. Right. At noon with a picnic basket. That's what I'm saying. There could be ghosts. Why is it always at night? Why? There's a place we're going to talk about called the Sugar Shack. And everyone was like, that just sounds too sweet. We're not going to send you there. We'll wait till you hear its history. Okay. I don't want to spend too much time in the promos, but we do have because it's on my mind. Next Friday, July 10th is our six year anniversary stream. So come celebrate six whole years. Of doing red web. The last two are exclusively funded by you guys. We're able to do this because Patrion exists again, red web pod.com. Get the deleted scenes, the uncut unedited static cameras from this investigation that are going to come out this week. We have weekly exclusives, if not more. This Friday, we're going to do a movie club on the back rooms movie. There's just a lot happening. We also have merch at store.redwebpod.com. It's to celebrate six years. We're super excited about it. It's kind of like a Japanese inspired street wear with Mothman and other kind of Yo-Kai involved. That is exclusively for July. So get in there while you got it. Task force members at Patrion do get a discount and they might get an exclusive early look at it. So anyway, that's the housekeeping notes. A lot of promos, but without further ado, Fredo, let me drag you into the depths and kind of get you real. And as to what's going to happen to you guys this weekend, Moundsville penitentiary, also known as West Virginia. Penitentiary was an operational prison from 1876 to 1995. This thing comes up quite recent. And I want you to take a look at this first photo, Fredo, because you can see just how one, how gothic cool it looks, but how commanding its presence is. Damn, we're going there. Yeah. That's too much. It's not enough. There's too much space. It's a lot of space, dude. There's too much space to explore. This place looks massive. This looks like a fortress. I also want to address the elephant in the room. Normally, Fredo, we do the podcast in location, but it's weird because this is like, we got to fly all the way there. Then we're going to drive from Pittsburgh to West Virginia for it. So it's a bit of a leg. That's why we're doing it here in the comfort of our homes. Kind of drop your guard, Fredo. For some reason, my guard is fully up right now. I think it's because of the fact that it's like a prison. Yeah, dude. The pictures inside. It's like a prison, man. It's like a prison. It's like a prison. It's like a prison. It's like a prison. Yeah, dude. The pictures inside. We're going to show some more. They're wild. They're wild. And the story here is vivid. You're going to be in these very same halls. So the history of this prison starts in 1863 when West Virginia seceded from Virginia during the Civil War. A little crash course history for you there. Now, as a new state, they had a shortage of all the other prisons in the state. They had a shortage of all the other prisons. Now, as a new state, they had a shortage of all sorts of public institutions, which, as you can surmise, would include prisons. And then from 1863 to 1866, the then governor, Arthur I. Borman, advocated for a state penitentiary to the West Virginia legislature. However, his lobbies were repeatedly denied, and he was told to send all the felons to Ohio County Jail in Wheeling, West Virginia. So it's Ohio County on the Ohio River across from the state Ohio, but it's in West Virginia. This was also, I didn't know this, the state capital at this point in time. So this proved to only be a temporary solution, because eventually nine inmates escaped in 1865, and when that happened, the state finally took action. On February 7th, 1866, the state approved the purchase of land in Moundsville with the purpose of building the state penitentiary. That summer, the state built a temporary prison made out of wood nearby in order to kind of get a start. This would be nearby where the state prison would be, so that way prison officials could get more time on deciding what the design of the building would look like and how they wanted the whole thing structured up. As you saw in the first picture, the unique gothic design is quite stunning, honestly, and it was inspired by the Juliet Correctional Center in Juliet, Illinois. The first permanent building constructed on the property was the North Wagon Gate. Some reports state that it housed male and female prisoners. We don't have a lot of information. This was mostly male-centric, but there are a few stories that include female prisoners being at this location as well. And then after the North Wagon Gate was finished, the South Hall structure and the cells were built, followed by the administration building and then the notary. In the notorious North Hall, I have another image for you here. I believe this is the Wagon Gate. Damn. Yeah, looks like just a whole gate entrance, multiple floors, two main floors, and then like a little shed on the top floor, a little balcony. Almost like a little Overwatch. You can kind of. Yeah, a little watchtower. Yeah, an exterior panopticon. I don't like how big this place is, I'll be honest. She big. When talking to Amanda, who is one of the location managers, she gave us a pretty rudimentary map so we could get an idea of the layout, doing a little behind-the-scenes scouting production with Christian, guy in the chair, and I don't know if it's for better or worse, but there's a place called the Chapel, there's some grounds, and the place is old enough and abandoned enough now that some of them might be off-limits, and so despite its kind of huge size, maybe it'll still be quite big, but maybe it'll feel just a little bit smaller, a little bit cozier for you. Okay. I'm gonna bustle up with those ghosts, because I don't think ghosts cross caution tape either. I think they know when a haunted house is about to come down, they're about to lose their haunted living. Maybe there's rules that we don't know about, you know what I mean? Right. The ghoul rules are always developing. The ghoul rules, which if stuff hits the fan, I will not be testing those rules. Right, right, right. Because they're mostly made up. So that's the Northwagon Gate. I don't know what's planned for, but I'm curious if you guys can check it out. Oh, definitely, I at least want to try and walk past it. If we can, you know, it's like, yeah, we'll walk past it. Watchtower Balcony would be cool to, like, overlook, you know? Yo, I'm not going up there, dude. That's, that's definitely, you fall through a skylight, or, or, like, a floorboard's rotten, and you become a ghost, you know? Yeah, and that's the thing that's scary about actually exploring these places, is you think the danger comes from possibly running across a ghost, and really, the danger comes from, um, being poked by, like, I don't know, something that's rusted, or, you know, uneven flooring, et cetera. Tetanus, asbestos, the various bumps and ghouls and hauntings of the night. Now, the entire facility was ready to go by 1876, when it officially opened and housed 251 male inmates. At the start, the prison was entirely self-sufficient. It included, this is wild, I had no idea about, this will give you an idea of the size, several different, shops and industries that allowed it to fulfill its own energy needs and generate revenue. It had things like a carpentry shop, a paint shop, a farm, a bakery, a hospital, a stone yard, a tailor, a blacksmith, and it even included a coal mine that was located about a mile away from the prison. Inmates were then able to work in the mines, live in the camp at the mines, and what's also interesting is it was almost kind of dovetailed with private industry because they were then under the supervision of the mines. Not so much an employee of the prison. So, I mean, this place, they seem like they really thought about it, right? I mean, like, you have prisons today and, you know, you could work at the prison, they give you things to do. Sure, sure. But they really, I feel like they were like, okay, let's get efficient, right? We're going to have this prison and then let's make sure that, you know, we could, I don't know, I guess like fund itself. Like, that's kind of wild. I guess. Yeah, you know, maybe that is part of it. Part of me was like, that's kind of neat. You know, you got tons of stuff to do, but then I go, oh, wait, that's just incaptured labor. You're just like free trapped labor. I mean, are they getting paid for it? I don't, I actually don't know. Christian, I'm very curious if they are. Some, they give them like minimum wage some places. Well, that would be wild. Minimum wage. I feel like it'd be like pennies on the dollar, you know? Yeah, that's true. Also, at the same time for me, I'm like, what else am I going to do? I'll be reading. I'll try to study or something. That's true. Come on, come on. They're ready to get a degree. I come out there a doctor, you know, like, oh, where'd you go? West Virginia, penitentiary. I'll be like, whoa. Wild. Oh, well, all right, doc. Sounds good. Anyway, say ah. I'm going to operate on you now. Yeah. Aren't I supposed to be asleep for this? Not where I come from. No. Okay. Not completely necessary. Christian, I don't know if that's something you can find. Feel free to jump it if you do find something. But the prison was known, to prioritize the education of inmates. This I thought was kind of, I did like this. I love that. Prioritize the education of inmates who regularly attended classes. This is almost kind of like a, get them on their feet. And so when they're back out in the world, they can kind of go off and not be a return inmate. Yeah, because if I'm correct, we've been incarcerated, the probability, the chances of you returning are substantially high. Oh, really? Yeah. Interesting. It's like a huge, a huge spike in percentage in terms of. Repeat offenders. Repeat offenders or something? Repeat offenders, return inmates. Yeah, for sure. That's unfortunate. You know, and I don't know, like, I don't know exactly what I'm talking about here, so I won't tread too deep, but you know, I think rehabilitation, having programs like this for people to either gain skills, gain knowledge. I know I was joking about it before, but it's, it's true that they were doing that here and all things considered, it seemed like the conditions were known to be pretty decent as far as prisons go for the time. That said, their conditions and the reputation of this prison would quickly, quickly take a turn for the worse. And it's almost like it started off bells and whistles, everything tip top shape. And you're going to see as we kind of go through the story here or the history, how rapidly it decays. Before you move on. Yeah. So I couldn't find something saying exactly what the case was at West Virginia Penitentiary at the time. But it looks like generally speaking and including the state of West Virginia, prisoners generally were paid for work that they did while in prison. Prisoners generally were paid for work that they did while in prison. So it's not like they were incarcerated. The pay was incredibly low, like cents on the hour. But yeah, it was something. Cents on the hour. I mean, you could account for inflation all you want. That's not cutting it. I don't think, you know, doing a little bit of mental napkin math. Yeah, better take the education route. So over the years, the prison saw an increase in violence, earning its spot on the U.S. Department of Justice's, quote, top ten most violent correctional facilities, end quote. It's unclear exactly what year this title was given because it was open for one hundred and nineteen years. And I would imagine it was towards the middle, towards the end of its history. But it's one of those things, too. It's like you're changing so many different like you're changing staff, you're probably changing like ownership, leadership on top of that, you know, you just don't know if it was a. Big year or like maybe you in terms of like, I don't know, like two gangs just happened to populate the prison and then that's what caused a spike in violence, et cetera. But it's unfortunate to see that happen to the institution that was like, OK, hey, we are going to focus on like education and like really giving you the best shot of getting out of here and living a life for it to turn to that. It's like, oh, yeah. I mean, it sucks. And I think a big part of this decay, as you'll find, was the overcrowding. I think you're on to something with management passing things on. And who knows with state funded what happens with the funds, if they're decreasing, if that kind of creates pressure points or if the desire to make this place succeed or it starts getting taken advantage of that says, oh, that's a good prison. Let's just keep sending people there until it's way beyond capacity, whatever it is. I could see that for sure. Yeah. And then, of course, with. With various different criminals of all different walks of life and reasons for being in here, shoulder to shoulder, it really starts getting tight. It becomes a pressure cooker. Violence is almost bound to to spark. So as things decay, the scene inside the prison would become the thing of nightmares. One example is, as I mentioned, the sugar shack, as it was called. It was a recreational room inside the prison infamous for gambling, violence and sexual assaults taking place. Like I said. This episode has a lot of sensitive topics coming at you. Now, as time went on, the prison did experience pretty severe overcrowding because of this. In 1929, the prison underwent construction once again to expand with the goal of doubling its size. So you're right that this place is huge and it really needed it. But this also meant that some of the inmates would be displaced for the time that this reconstruction or this remodel was underway. And the prison allegedly had no choice. But to fit three inmates per each of the five by seven foot cells, five feet by seven feet, Fredo is you and I could lay down comfortably one direction, a third person you couldn't. How are they sleeping? How are you throwing three beds in there? You're literally just scooting over to your bed and then you're just laying on your bed and that's your space? I think it's the idea is to be a bunk bed situation. Take a look at this image of one of these cells. I think two prisoners would sleep in the bunk beds. And so I think some cells had a second bed above that first one. You're seeing that bench there. Yeah. And then another would be on a mattress on the floor. Oh my God, that's rough. Yeah, dude. The toilet's right there. Oh. Not a window to be seen. Yeah, you're not going to be happy. These are, you know, a lot of times they're unhappy people because why would you be happy being in confined like this? And then on top of that, you're putting that situation. Yeah, it's going to be tension. It's going to be a lot of tension. Very tension putting two people in there. You don't know if they like each other or not. And I don't know if it was these cells in particular because we'll talk about it here in a second. But there were some convicts of the more violent variety that were confined to their cells for like 20 hours a day, if not more. And so now you can read. Really start to picture the tense nature, the environment, and then you start to go, well, is it the chicken or the egg? Is it because they're violent that they had violent outbreaks and or is it because just any person confined in such tight quarters that it wasn't designed for three people to be in there? Good point. Literally back into a quarter and then that's why they're, you know, angry. Yeah, they're like falling over each other. Now, it's unclear how long this construction went on while they're all kind of tucked away and these would have been temporary. Now it's unclear how long this construction went on while they're all kind of tucked away and these would have been temporary. living conditions, but some reports state that they were still using prison labor to complete construction 30 years later in 1959. That's just so much tension built up. So much. Like people have passed away during that time. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And then you're like enlisting, you're basically building your next location of confinement. Hopefully these guys are laying down some sense. We'll talk about some of the hot spots, because I think you need to know what happened in these locations to understand why people feel certain things in these very same rooms. But seriously, as we come up on our six-year anniversary, I just want to thank you all so much, whether you support there directly or you just listen each and every week. We really appreciate it. We really appreciate you as part of our task force, and we cannot wait to celebrate with each and every one of you on July 10th at 2 p.m. Central Time. That is when we're streaming our six-year anniversary stream, where we will have new stretch goals for new, fun content to create for you guys and just have fun throughout the year. And of course, we've got our July merch coming. Now, this merch is exclusive to July, but if you are a Patreon member, it is available right now, so you can go run and get it early. Store.redwebpod.com, we are very excited about this merch. It is uniquely inspired by a lot of our intros. But anyway, thank you all so much for listening and supporting us. Once again, head to redwebpod.com. Join for just $20 at bjs.com. So despite its expansion, the prison proved its conditions were still pretty bad when 15 prisoners managed to escape. This is 20 years after the expansion on November 7th, 1979. The break started when an inmate named Jack Hart reportedly asked to be let into the prison's command center to store his barber tools. Unbeknownst to the officers, Hart had actually smuggled in a gun. He then held one officer at gunpoint, while the other officer or another one was held at knife point by another prisoner. And from there, they were able to obtain the keys to the prison waiting room where they demanded another officer to open the gates. 13 other inmates had been hiding nearby, and then they escaped once those gates opened. So this was very much a premeditated plan. And one of those inmates was able to steal a weapon from a prison guard during this escape. And local police didn't even know about the breakout until 20 minutes after it had happened. And then after this went down, some of the escaped prisoners managed to remain at large for well over a year. So they're either in the local community or somewhere further away. You hear stories about these guys stealing weapons and running out. You don't know if they're going to be violent or not. Yeah. But they're just at large. It's as wild the amount of things that people can sneak into a prison. Truly. I feel like there should be a whole documentary just focused. Focused on that. How they're sneaking things in through cakes and things and body parts. It's wild. It's absolutely wild the number of things they can get in. And yeah. I mean, but also it's like, I don't know, man. There's got to be some kind of protocol. The command center? Sort of the barber stuff? I'd be like, look, I'll hold it for you or move it over here. But not getting in there. Granted, you would have ended up with that situation anyways, because, you know, I had a gun and whatnot. I can see him. Like, well, we shouldn't leave scissors out here, sir. So let me put them in there. I got a gun. Yeah, but obviously, I mean, some of this is hindsight, you know, like we look back and we go, well, obviously. But it's because of moments like this that it becomes, I think, so obvious. Because at least for this prison, this very escape highlighted several cracks in their existing system. Notably, the lack of proper communication between the prison guard and the state police and the local law enforcement. Which meant that any sort of. You know, there's a whole lot of cracks in the prison, especially in escape, could kind of get further away and harder to rein in than it should have been. And so with all of these kind of different moving parts not operating well together, it just, yeah, like a savvy team of escape artists could really kind of pry that open. On New Year's Day in 1986, the prison experienced the most infamous riot in its history. During this time, the prison was undergoing several changes, which led to security being extradited. The prison was extremely thin in all aspects. Since a large portion of the inmates were convicts, it stands to reason that many of them were able to pick the locks on their cells. And thus, it seemed, were essentially free-roaming these halls. How did. That's wild. I mean, granted, they're, you know, very resourceful. Mm-hmm. But just the fact that just, yeah, that that can happen and that did happen is. That's something. Well, imagine you're a guard and you see, like, they're able to just get out. I think I go into the next room. Behind a couple more locks and go, you know what? That's the night shift's job. What am I supposed to do? One guard up against, like, the ratio here is not working. The fact there's a whole, like, riot is something. Yeah. So we know about the overcrowding, but also the poor plumbing and the infestation of insects in this environment also added to this, this kind of bubbling cauldron. That led to the riot. Like, several diseases were spreading throughout this complex due to these unsanitary conditions. And also because, yeah, like, they're like, screw it. Let me just pop my gate and walk around out here. Now, remember when the prison first opened, it held 251. And then at some point in time in the mid-century here, it then doubled in size by the late 1950s. Well, at this time, somewhere, let's see, it was 1979. The prison was still severely overcrowded. I mean, it's 20 years. It's 20 years on after the doubling in size. But it was holding a total of roughly 2,000 inmates. When it was equipped to hold maybe half of that. Maybe. You know, I think, too, like, staffing. Like, how is staff going to handle that much? Like, most likely they're not scaling properly. Oh, God, no. Nope. The building's not scaling with the people, but you can shove people into it. Right. But you can't shove more guards into it, you know? Like, yeah, you're right. It doesn't scale. So later that day, at 5.30 p.m. on January 1st, 1986, a group of 20 inmates who called themselves Avengers stormed the hall where a man named Captain Glassick and his team, actually, were on duty. Several hostages were taken throughout the day, but none of them were seriously injured. The riot itself ended up being quite disorganized, as those who started the riot were not necessarily prepared to take charge of it. It's almost like, again, it was a human reaction a response to the environment they're in and then it's like a what does the joker say dog chasing cars but you catch it what do you do with it now you're in control right what's the plan now yeah good point like what are we gonna do we got we finally got to the goal all we focused on was the goal because it felt impossible and then they did it yeah and by the end dude this riot lasted like almost two days depending on the source you look at i think it was like 41 to 48 hours that this went down unfortunately it did see the uh the death of three inmates who were killed and the cause of death for each of those inmates is unclear depending on your sources but some point afterward governor arch a more junior went to the prison to speak with the inmates he's aware of how this whole thing has decayed over the century now and in his meeting a new set of rules and standards was put into place you i don't know if we have these rules and standards i want to take it on good faith that he sees that this prison is falling apart and that he wants to do right by not only the prisoners but also the environment that they're living in and basically bring it back to doing it right that's my hope but we'll never know because despite that later that very same year a landmark west virginia supreme court ruling would determine that the severe overcrowding and poor conditions in the prison were just simply enough to not even buy the prison and they said this constitutes cruel and unusual punishment which i can agree with yeah and thus ordering this prison to close never giving it a chance to maybe try to improve itself oh just straight up shut it down you're gone yeah cruel and unusual punishment it's gone on way too long too little too late and i can totally get on board with that yeah same i mean you got someone with good intentions coming in but when everything has been so bad for decades it's just like human life is not being respected here not at all not at all that just seems like such a big undertaking too like how do you transition everybody where do they go etc so that's a great question that is really the big question here because it took about nine almost 10 years for the prison to officially close on march 27th 1995 it officially closes stores for good pretty much because of that lack of funding lack of resources where to relocate everybody you're right on the money now the rest of the prison's history remains quite haunting from 1899 to 1959 94 men were executed at the prison the primary method for execution until 1949 was hanging and in that time 85 men were hanged hangings were even available for the public viewing until june 19th 1931 when a man named that's already shocking enough that was a great reaction i know it was silent fredo leaned in public viewing what do you mean you can get a ticket to this this isn't a show come on come on bring the daughter susie but then in 1931 there was a man named frank hire who was executed for the murder of his wife however at this moment the trap door opened underneath him he drops down and instead of being hanged he is decapitated from that point on it's not oh by the way they didn't just stop the viewings they just limited to invitation only so instead of this oh yeah we on sundays we go down to the prison and watch people dangle now it's like okay well someone's head freaking popped off let's just make this uh vips only that that's wild to me that's it didn't close it down like i don't understand like vips only so are they charging admission like what is going on here in living memory there are people alive from 1931 when this happened so that's like it's not that long ago that people were like witnessing public hangings and a guy's head popped off dude and they kept going which is and they kept going wild i just understand like one uh they're monetizing it you know and then two the kind of people that are like yeah i'll go to a public hanging like what do you mean i don't understand the want to go to something like that no it doesn't compute i mean you go back to medieval times you got the gallows and people like i don't know throwing tomatoes or whatever the comic says you know those illustrations or whatever but like so sure that's a thing but i don't think i want to be like the medieval times no that was no that sucked and so that kind of continued on for almost another two decades that's wild what do you mean yeah well then it's it didn't shift because they were like guys we gotta stop they shifted because in 1951 the primary mode of execution moved from hangings to electrocution and uh well this is this is a wild backstory for this little chair public viewing here too i really hope not i hope not but as i talk about this take a look at the next picture the electric chair nicknamed old sparky was originally built also by an indian government and it was built in the 19th century by the way named paul glenn so these guys are building their walls and they're building their period at the end of their sentence they are building everything and doing all the jobs old sparky old sparky sounds like somebody put an upturned colander on a wire and a plug and it's and it kind of looks like that too it is sinister looking that can't be humane right like oh i don't know what that would feel like but it certainly doesn't look good no oh yeah yeah what's that bucket for yeah i don't know i feel like there's always a bucket there oh don't they like grab a sponge and then put like water and stuff oh they gotta moisten you to like increase conductivity or something less like burn oh yeah so so the viewers don't have to smell your melting corpse that's insidious that's wild that's wild that's wild someone someone came up with that let's plug this guy in oh my god well after this point nine men of these 94 or so died by electrocution before capital punishment was prohibited by the state a few years i don't want to i said a few years because i did a mental typo it's over a decade 1965 west virginia did away with capital punishment and therefore put a kibosh on all these things but this is the dark and sinister and morbid history that surrounds this place you can see just like the heaviness of the history of this place and why so many people think the residual energies of spirits and inmates long gone by who died here under such vicious acts of many kinds why these halls would be tainted with with angry spirits or lingering souls which is also what's so terrifying about um like going to this location in real life because you know we've gone to hospitals and whatnot it's like you know people people pass so that you know that happens often at a hospital abandoned places and less people pass but this is a prison you know what i mean uh people are are passing maybe even less than a hospital but they're these are angry people these are people that um society deemed we could not have them out there and you know they were they were put to death and violent but you know the most humane possible way i guess the during the whatever time that was so they would say and so you know it wasn't necessarily people going away peacefully or people being sad and passing away because of a sickness or anything and so actually going there is like it's a heavy one man i think i pick up what you're putting down at a hospital you know we've talked about malpractice and certain doctors doing certain things that shouldn't be done but for some reason it clicks in the brain a little better because you're like okay well this is a hospital i understand that sickness illness especially if it's a sanatorium that focuses on like pneumonia or what have you and i think that's a good thing it will be prone to that and it makes sense because that's the designated place for this otherwise mortal infection or illness or what have you a prison it doesn't carry that same like one expects to be dying there or one expects to be killed there or or meet their end there so there is that kind of disconnect that i think does make a prison a little bit weirder a little bit more um unsettling i think is just the right word yeah i completely agree but with all that said you know throughout the years i believe this was also when it was active because there were several guards several inmates they have reported strange paranormal happenings and of course all the way up through today you know whether it be like televised ghost investigators all the way down to youtube level ghost investigators and hobbyists have all reported things here some have heard strange sounds suddenly feel icy cold spots maybe on your cheek if you dropped a phone battery or something but people have also seen full-blown apparitions i also read about a lot of encounters on reddit and through youtube investigations where people felt a hand on their arm and in a few cases actually felt like they were being yanked or like like grabbed absolutely not just touched absolutely not absolutely not no way what do you do though in that moment if you feel like a hand on your a steady hand instinctively i'm swinging really what if it's triggering i'm swinging on the air yeah you're going to i just don't i just don't know i just think you know what i mean instinctively yeah so don't play any jokes on me because you might get clocked i don't know you know what i mean like i'm definitely gonna like peel back but i am i gonna fight a ghost absolutely not but that's just what my body's gonna react you know fight a ghost you get two splashes in the holy water and you've got a fist that can clock a ghost that's what i'm saying you know that's what i'm saying maybe you know i've always joked about dunking my arms in holy water and then swinging on a ghost but that might be the way what if it was like an anime moment where you had like a globule or like a little one of those ball water bottles you pop that cork and then you do and then you see like your chi your aura start to glow because the ghost definitely gonna be seeing it and now your whole body you know is glowing because you've now like frodo wearing the ring you've now entered that next realm you're half foot in half foot out danny phantom clock this ghost they're scared they're running capture them in a pokeball i'm losing my references but do you think hold on could you do that could you capture a ghost in a pokeball a ghost buster essentially did that's true and that's what haunter is haunter is just a guy wandering around a you know a cemetery and then ash ketchum comes along that's that's true that's true well gengar's just a a freak dude that's just a guy he's a freak yeah he's but uh anyway what if i mean i'm just saying it doesn't have to be scary maybe it's not even cold maybe it's a warm reassuring hand on your shoulder you know i'll be honest don't touch me okay fair enough in that environment i i know what you're talking about i mean like i'm sorry like reach out in some other way and physically touch me i'm terrified i'm scared i'm on the defensive you gotta approach me like a like a sweet baby bird okay like the like a canary in the coal mine you gotta do you know what i mean like ease me into your supernatural world okay talking about like jensen eckles or whatever you're talking about him strong arms easing you into supernatural again i'm losing my references i need to move on i know all of these references though they're fire they're fire references i don't know who i'm playing to but fredo uh okay so people talk about like feeling things that was a very common one i saw online but a former allegedly a former inmate had this to say about that they said that they were at the top of the stairs and they again allegedly were forced down the stairs like a force kind of pushed them and that's why they took a tumble down the stairs and that's not often a claim you hear like maybe scratches maybe maybe like you know i felt like a poke but rarely do you see or hear of something that's so vicious right so like big now like we always talk about theories in a lot of our unsolved cases and even true crime and paranormal cases but when it comes to the paranormal you know it kind of comes down to the same theories here like if the other side does exist if there is some sort of ephemeral veil that we cross over a lot of people believe that the violent deaths within these prison walls were were such that it would almost leave an imprint of these people here echoes of who they were um or even just their actual selves their souls their spirits being trapped here maybe others argue that the morbid energy and the repeated deaths in violent conditions simply themselves left a lasting mark on the building and either a caused residual hauntings or be kind of played to the psychology of a person you know when you're in a dark dank decrepit place way after sunset something seeks into your brain like you do start to hear and see things and that's why you know fredo we always try to not be the wet blanket but we we gotta debunk stuff when we can yeah you have to you have to debunk it you have to try and like because otherwise you just run around believing anything right sure and anything is anything but that's how you know the past couple of ghost hunts and we just were hearing stuff it's like i hope for the task force like oh they're experiencing something in that moment that they cannot explain themselves and that's the thing right it's like i am more than willing to believe but i am also in the realm of like hey i need to have some type of tangible proof i can't just go blindly believe it especially since it's also fascinating i don't want to believe anything just because it validates my interest because because i know inside that's not actually validating it you know it's just like so i want the piece of evidence that i can't explain but am i going to get that levitating table and the glass that shoots across the room like no the holy grail of all sorts of paranormal activity but um but anyway that so that's our approach task force as you know but in this next one uh is another theory or reason as to why this place is haunted and this is usually something i'm very very cautious about bringing up but it actually applies here so there's reason to believe amongst many uh who who discuss this location that the prison was built upon a sacred ancient burial ground of the adina tribe now again people like to just throw that out there and it's it's the foundation for a lot of stories of course but truly just across the street from this prison like you look out the front door maybe a thousand feet maybe less you have the grave creek mound archaeological complex which is reportedly the largest and last remaining adina burial mound and so yes there were people laid to rest in this burial mound and whether it be a burial mound or a traditional grave site or anything in between where people die there are almost or always stories that follow of of the afterlife and residual spirits and so people are kind of saying well because this like very terrible history of this prison is also right next to this burial ground you put the two together and it's a hot spot for ghosts right yeah i mean that just adds more to it right just at this point you're just slapping all the places that could produce paranormal activity in a close proximity to each other and you think like okay if this is real then they're just going to feed off of one another absolutely and the crazy thing is again we're going there so i'll be able to look across the stream oh there it is yeah okay now i'm going to go into this prison that's you know that's cool thanks task force yeah yeah really fantastic there by your votes fredo will tread those grounds hank joined bj's wholesale club the day he became a father of 30. i coach football now coach hank saves up to 25 off grocery store prices 30 pounds of pasta three cases of protein bars 75 sports drinks and that's just pre-game he knows teamwork and bj's knows savings this is your home coach home of the save join for just twenty dollars at bjs.com mesquite and save ten cents per gallon for six months open soon limited time offer new members only bj's home of the save hi there i am fully charged and here to tell you toy story five is now on disney plus it's been too long cowboy woody buzz and jesse are back for a brand new adventure with some seriously cool new tech what holy butterscotch you said it jesse so save your batteries and watch the global phenomenon at home and the best part it's perfect for the whole family power up your movie night and watch disney and pixar's toy story 5 now streaming on disney plus rated pg all right so now the piester is a stones the hot spots the common sightings the things you guys are going to be looking out for whether it is antagonistic or polite you'll have to find your strategy here but there's a lot a lot of common reportings and the first one reminds me vividly of what me but even more so christian and shane saw when we went back to yorktown memorial hospital so that is the shadow man this is one of the most well-known and most reported ghosts said to inhabit the grounds here he's described as a large dark figure with glowing eyes and some speculate that it could be the spirit of a former inmate perhaps who died in his cell but no one specifically has been named and attributed to the shadow man that was gonna be my question is like who you know what i mean is it a good person a bad person it's a good question as in like you know were they a guard were they like who were they you know were they one of the worst inmates that walked the grounds that's the thing so many have reported that the shadowy figure is usually watching them from various distances but they can kind of like they feel like they're being watched and sometimes like out of the corner of their eye they catch it and usually he's watching you from behind the bars now that makes it sound like it's in one of the cells but if you're in a cell and it's behind the bars maybe it is maybe it is a guard we don't know i don't like none of that i don't like none of that i'd even think about darting figures across don't dart you know what i mean a dart is like the most unsettling move one could make yeah yeah i agree don't dart don't creepily stand there don't dart don't don't jerk don't twist if anything like like a like a slow pacing would probably be the least scary okay like a slow shamble at you yeah or just you know down the hall like crossing not at me doesn't have to be at me oh oh across the hall like okay i see i see but like yeah the extreme like if it's darting around that just it just feels like it's so vivid in the sense of like okay you have clearly mastered the ability to be a paranormal entity here you're not just like i can barely talk to you through this spirit box or i can kind of push something across the ground it's like now you i'm here yeah and you're him and i'm him i'm him and i'm here if you're darting around and you have some level of control here task force if you please go check out that yorktown memorial ghost hunt that we revisited but speaking of this darting i was just kind of like refreshing my knowledge of the history of this place looking down at my notes wandering as christian and shane were setting up cameras and wandered down the hall and i happened to see like just a dark figure in the middle of it's a dark hall but a darker figure right in the middle and when i look it's like it flicked away with my vision and so i'm like maybe that's just something in my eyes like maybe that's just it moved with my eye movement so i don't think of anything but then i realized how deep in the building i was and then christian saw something and and then shane saw something and it supposedly looked like you but you were certainly not in the building right and the big thing there is the fact of just like that's when i had the most interaction with something yes and so it it just when you look at it as a whole all together that's where you go oh that there's possibly something that night that really latched on to me i don't like to think of it that way i like to think of just you know just circumstances and maybe something happened but um that's definitely what you can kind of get out there for sure the first and so far only time where we were like let's just call it let's get out of here we got we got enough this is yeah we really did we really said you know what that's we've got what more can we ask for let's not push it here right yeah that was smart like genuine like fear calm not panic fear but we had genuine calm fear we're just like no let's just wrap up and go we gotta go that's wild we really did it we really did that yeah and i was in a different place close my eyes noise canceling headphones i just like i'm just saying words i kind of teleported away so when i came back and you guys were like i chris was like i was seconds from ending this if you fredo didn't end this and then you was like can we can we just leave okay i think like i just kind of want to go and i'm like that like coming back to that was so unsettling yeah you really came back from being just like hyper focused and locked into just a room full of tension yeah yes just like you're just like what's happening guys what's going on or it's like no no no no no no no no no yeah that one was that one was tough tough to explain all the things that stacked i mean we we did our best when we did the debrief there's things we kind of pull apart but it's still it was wild um okay let's talk about the shadow man similar to the shadow man i don't know if this is more or less unsettling but some have reported seeing a faceless man wander the halls moving through solid objects again we don't often we hear about ghosts we know ghosts phase through walls i don't often encounter stories where people are like no no no this figure moves through walls it doesn't come down the stairs it doesn't stand wistfully in the window it moves through things tables chairs doors bars like what do you what do you do you know what i'm saying like what do you do against something that can move through walls you are at its mercy listen if it can move through things maybe it can't touch me oh but maybe it can do like spirit damage you know like it can't grab me but it can grab my my inside ghost you know maybe we're just flesh puppets with ghosts inside us man you're really relying on just hope of like random rules you're throwing out there right now i know i'm like you know what that's why you don't mess with it maybe it can't hurt me i'm like we have nothing to back that up that's just hope if you saw that comment it is time to move you better not be the slowest you better not be the fastest because it could be a trap yeah you'll be right in the middle right imagine that weird like spree of everyone just trying to be in the middle yeah you go you go ahead no no you go behind yeah no no no fast too fast no no too slow um oh yeah look i love y'all but i'll be honest if i you know if i see something like that i'm gonna start running and you guys just just run with me don't even don't ask questions just go with me all right that's the rule that's that's the true google rule is if someone starts running and you guys just just run with me you just run i'm not gonna question it i'm i'm you know boots feet up and down at a fast pace out of the building the unfortunate thing is that this is a whole prison and so that's a very large building yeah yeah don't get lost um you get you get stuck you get dead ended by pennywise in like the sewers you know and you're just stuck in a cage with this ever-approaching slow walking faceless man that's a very good point can very much get lost because you just panic running at that point you might trip and i mean you tell you watch these horror movies you know we watch them during movie club and we're just like oh how'd you trip there and so you're running in the dark at full speed man you're not looking you know everyone's always attempted to look back at everything i think that's why you always wear glasses even if you don't need them so that way when you fall and the glasses come off the ghost thinks they got you with their like oh i got him with my trap card you're like you didn't even know i didn't need those that's your sacrificial lamb you go oh my glasses and then you run okay faceless man not much more to say about him although some people speculate that it is the ghost of an inmate who was beaten to death and beaten so violently in fact that the body was disfigured to the point that he was unrecognizable and then came back because of this heated energy and his spirit maintained this this kind of ambiguous almost disfigured look where he's faceless now moving on before we talk about the sugar shack in the north hall two of the very very hot spots one more specific entity has been seen around this place so it is as many places have called the lady in white now i'm always so curious why we always have ladies in victorian white dresses yeah something to that is it just because it's of its time and then so we're gonna start seeing hold on now go hit me with it what are we looking at is the new era of ghosts because you know just will evolve are they goth mommies we got goth mommy ghosts wear the 90s parachute pants ghosts i'm looking for 80s mullet ghosts yeah we're the ghosts of the times like that's that's and where are the shadow daddy ghosts you know with their 10 rings oh my goodness you have the shadow days and then you have the goth mommy ghost that's everyone just like i did i will take me it's like guys could you imagine no are you there it's like the year is 2137 and we're ghost investigating and they say some sort of like future slang like no cap and then they go uh is there anyone here and then you hear like oh yeah just in the far distance you know just far down a hallway you hear mommy and you're like what i don't know maybe maybe boo was the 19th century equivalent of like mommy and so that's what you know so we're just here i just walk out i'm not dealing with this ghost i'm just we're moving from victorian baddies to goth baddies you know the minute i call out to a ghost and the ghost replies back what's up chat i'm out i'm quitting the game chat dude like i'm just not a ghost over here is like oh no your cortisol level spiking i'm out goodbye right right ghost trying to mog on me it's like get me out of here i'm just too i'm too old for this i'm logged by a ghost it's not yeah dude i don't know what like what gen alpha ghosts are gonna start looking like but uh or what they're gonna say and do but it's gonna be weird because i i think i read an article not too long ago that was like oh the reason why you don't see ghosts in the day is because like they die like ghosts fade away or whatever so so i'm like oh that's a convenient excuse as to why we only see ghosts from a very short era and they also always happen to speak whatever language the investigators speak it does make me think too then you know i mean again like i'm saying it's gonna cycle you know we're gonna get a new era of ghosts i'll genuinely be curious to see how this whole realm evolves as as we get old and gray okay so the lady in white she's reportedly the ghost of a woman who roams the prison uh as her name suggests she wears a long white gown and some claim that she is the ghost of a woman who was sent to the prison for murdering her child back before it became a male only penitentiary as the story goes yeah and i don't know if we have a name to attribute to this person or if this is just kind of like a speculated story to add to the mysterious circumstances here um but as the story goes she was reportedly sentenced in life from prison but died under those quote mysterious circumstances soon after her arrival and so So, you know, ghost stories are always a little bit elevated, a little bit word of mouth. telephone exaggerated but regardless many people have seen her and she is often seen roaming the halls and standing still sometimes looking out windows way less eerie than her male counterparts it would seem but some have even reported hearing her weep or whisper to herself further away in the halls but yeah that's the woman in white yeah i don't like that i don't like that one bit but then also it's one of those things that we never really truly had proof that there were which is wild to me that there were women in the penitentiary it's not that there weren't proof it was just a short period of time and and i think it's more that we don't know that a woman that killed her child factually went here i guess i'll say that i know we just don't have her name and so we can't fact check the story or if the story is real or exaggerated or applied to this this commonly seen ghost but uh there were women during a short period of time for sure got it okay man this president went through everything oh yeah i mean people came and went on this planet as this prison was around it it saw a lot from the end of a civil war to the 90s the end of the cold war dude that's that's wild okay so let's now finally i teased it enough talk about that sugar shack you know before i mentioned some of the heinous things happening there but it is one of the greatest hot spots for paranormal activity here on location in this room many report hearing hushed talking some whispers sometimes arguments so this will be a really interesting place to kind of maybe do some evps or talking out into the room the sugar shack is located in the basement level so you know it's already got a bonus point there and some claim that as you can imagine the entire basement area is haunted i believe if i'm if i was looking at the map correctly christian i'm not sure if you saw this there is a boiler room i believe that's what the task force is currently voting on for somebody to do some uh solo investigation oh man some of the task force even have been here and they're like that boiler room sucks so like they all went right for it um i think that is in the basement christian i don't i can't recall the boiler room is indeed in the basement according to the map we got yeah okay so of course it is yeah yeah that reminds me of penhurst asylum there was a boiler room there where the king or just king was said to be yeah not a good not good vibes that's where um you guys are feeling a lot of touching on the shoulder like things behind you guys yeah that place was huge and wild and uh not a great time for many reasons it started with bats swarming over our heads so that was oh yeah very interesting okay so it's said that here in the sugar shack there was once a spy on prisoners listen into their conversations and then he was snitched to the guards about any news or infractions he was hearing from them and because of this he was stabbed several times in the bathroom located in the basement so i guess this is in the sugar room sorry this is the broader basement in general but attacked by prisoners stabbed in in the uh the basement bathroom and it's said that he still wanders around the basement looking for bad behavior so i don't know if you guys want to start gossiping dropping some hot goss my my bravery thing now is to antagonize it is you've been very brave lately dude in yorktown you got big brave yeah i keep forgetting then i keep going i keep i don't know i keep forgetting and i just keep thinking like yeah it can't be that right it can't be real yeah until it till it feels real see i'm i'm messing around now i'm about to find out yep so you come in all cholo style and this guy's gonna be ready for you you know he's gonna maintenance you he's not gonna put up with my shenanigans well here's the thing still looking for bad behavior he i'm sorry to say because it does sound like it's a real story he was the guy that got jumped i mean maybe you learned your lesson maybe you maybe maybe you look out for goody two shoes you know what i mean yeah that guy with the two with the with the two penny shoes in the the shiny shiny leathers i don't know why the maintenance man is a five-year-old boy but who's this guy coming down here who's this who's this guy um i will i mean here's the thing i have to put on a convincing bad boy act is what i'll have to do okay you're gonna wake up a past you shake it all all that modern softness you know all back to gangster ways you know yeah okay so another spot you most invariably will end up in because it is one of the main areas and it is very prominent is the north hall it is also known as a spot for paranormal activity it's why that's why i'm covering it i don't know why i wrote that in the notes uh but this wing of the prison housed the most dangerous criminals those who were locked in their cells for i i said 20 hours a day sometimes up to 23 hours a day oh my goodness yeah because you did say 20 which is already way too much yeah so one free hour of rec time get some sun get some vitamin d get back into your cell why people are upset so in this area many experience equipment malfunctions they report hearing the sound of cell doors banging and specifically the cell of a man named red snyder is said to be extra haunted and i was talking to she's our researcher and i was really trying to find okay what cell because if you guys are going to be there i'm very curious what cell number red snyder was said to be in and she was saying that some online sources point to cell number 21 as snyder's other people who have done the investigation and if christian does the the brief tour before the investigation maybe amanda will point that out christian um but either way snyder was an inmate here in the north hall who was convicted of the murder and dismemberment of his parents he made several enemies while in prison he got involved in many fights he met his end when he was attacked in front of his cell and he was stabbed i don't know if this tells you anything about the guy 37 times jeez yeah that's pretty bad that's just aggression that's that's hella aggression and i'm almost curious you know because some people report seeing a ghost creeping around in the shadows they experience uh strange and uncomfortable energies in this area of the north hall especially around his cell and part of me almost wonders is red snyder maybe a good candidate for the shadow man who walks around oh yeah could be seems kind of aggressive so in addition to that like i said there's the boiler room there's the kitchen where a riot featured some deaths in there there's the chapel which i saw on the map and i believe it's outside you guys might not be able to access that based on what i saw on their more recent updates is that some portions of this building are closed off as with any abandoned building there are going to be unsafe areas so chapel might be part of that but otherwise you have at least four dramatically uh hot spots to look around plus maybe the gate and outside it is a gorgeous building but inside it is very very eerie so in closing the west virginia penitentiary is considered one of the most haunted prisons in america it's also been the filming location of several tv shows and movies and it's now used as a place to train law enforcement and correctional officers in mock riot drills which is interesting i didn't know that oh okay interesting yeah still up and running obviously you know we're gonna go actually visit this place there's a lot of history here um a lot of the thing is that this might be the place that has the most pent-up aggression that we've ever been to it does seem that way and that's what's on my mind that's a little scary i will go we'll investigate we'll see what's going on damn man how are you feeling christian i have always taken solace in the fact that i could hold the camera because it was like a shield between me and what was going on i'm just observing i'm not doing anything and so the idea that i might not have that is making this a lot worse especially with what alfredo just said about this being one of the more aggressive locations we've been to so yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be creepy if you think about it you know our last two ghost hunts have just been kind of building up in a sense you know we got activity two ghost hunts to go and then we got even more activity last ghost hunt and so we're on this kind of streak good or bad whatever way you look at it but yeah the trend is there yeah there's a uss hornet was like you started seeing some stuff with the flashlights this was fredo's first chance of like actually getting something around him yorktown went hard dude we've been there twice the second time was like definitely unnerving and then yeah black swan inn was right after that we did that earlier this year lots of exclusives and deleted scenes and uncut stuff over on the patreon page but some light activity it did feel like a step back which was nice sometimes you don't want to be scared out of your gourd but there were a few moments where i was definitely just unnerved christian jumped into the saddle of the spirit box for the estus method bro i was just getting lit up with like phrases words and i was like trying to parse sentences as i was hearing constant sounds and feeling things and seeing stuff. Yeah, yeah. he gets to you but yeah we've had a lot of the past two times we've had a lot of what could be considered success with the spirit box the estus method stuff so i'm very curious to see what this location yields for that i agree yeah i'd love to see you know i don't want to become the estus method one trick pony because it is so fascinating but you know it was cool to see the emf meter really rocking in yorktown on cadences as responses happened as sounds happened but it was so dead in black swan inn i'm curious to see how this rem pod will work out you know we had that random burst at black swan maybe placing this down in the sugar shack while you guys investigate the basement yeah that'll be a hot spot to play some stuff man yeah now we got to figure out so we'll cook behind the scenes for you fredo to keep some some surprises for you but i'm curious where we're going to put these static cameras i think we have some good ideas christian right yeah it's gonna be interesting i'm gonna maybe maybe facetime me in while you're there and i can be you know safety i'll be here i'll be your your uh your lifeline you know so if one of you is doing like a solo challenge or heck you're just starting off facetime me in and i'll be there to cast you some good vibes from a brightly lit room here in austin nursing a sick pup yeah sure this man is so brave over facetime i think you should go deeper into the i'll be honest back there show me up close i can't see it's too dark yeah show me what's back there don't take no one with you no light actually just kind of like yeah give me a true experience it's too bright turn that light off all right absolutely not i still envision the day where someday i'll be like on an ipad on a segue rolling around and maybe i'll have like a robo arm so i can i could just like a robo doc or telehealth doctor i could just like kind of tell a ghost hunt you know but all right boys well this has been the west virginia penitentiary aka moundsville penitentiary lots to look forward to task force if you're listening to this the day it came out or any day after it the ghost hunt is right now and if you want to see the static cameras any deleted scenes anything extra that these boys couldn't fit into the full ghost hunt and uh and for anybody who you know just wants to see that raw uncut stuff and wants to investigate themselves please head to redwebpod.com support the show directly you know we are coming up on six years of doing this two years independent thanks to you guys and uh and it's literally because of you guys that we are doing this this third ghost hunt in one year like that's that's wild to think about all right with that said fredo i'll see you right back here next monday for yet another mystery tammy regularly hauls stuff to her kids at college that's why she shops at bj's wholesale club saving up to 25 off grocery store prices beef jerky microwave meals laundry pods even they can't have you met my kids and with bj's gas she gets there for less they call me the road warrior this is your home road warrior mom home of the save join for just twenty dollars at bjs.com slash mesquite and save 10 cents per gallon for six months open soon limited time offer new members only bj's home of the save