‘Weird Science’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt

The rewatchable is brought to you by the Ringer podcast Network Kyle Bryant. You can find him on Good Morning Football. You can find him on ESPN platforms popping up from time to time. I saw him on Sports Center a few weeks ago doing his, it's like a bit, it's like you're doing bits. You did this for Vampel. You did this Aaron Rogers as mid 40s guy. How you kind of appreciate as a fellow mid 40s guy like to watch him just get exasperated by people. I really enjoyed that. Rogers has completely stopped caring. He's always been mad at his teammates. Now he just screams at him on the field. It doesn't even matter. It's like, what the hell? I've always been this way. Now I'm just going to be me, buddy. So you just see him walking down the driveway, getting his mail in the Tony Suprano bathroom, just yelling at yelling at the leaf blower guy next door. Anyway, we are going to do a movie that Kyle Bryant has been suggesting ever since he started popping on the rewatchables, which I think was about five years ago. It's weird science. This movie is bonkers. And it's next. So it is presented by PayPal. Let's talk holiday shopping. Make the most of your money with PayPal. They give you the flexibility to pay in for no fees, no interest, save the offer in the PayPal app to get 5% cash back when you pay later. So whether you're shopping for an ugly sweater party or work all out or whatever else, PayPal helps you make the most of your money. This holiday expires 1231. Visit PayPal.com/promoterms, subject to approval, learn more at PayPal.com/payinfor, PayPal Inc. NMLS910-457. All right, Kyle Bryant. Sheila Benson reviewing this for the Los Angeles Times, who in the same review described Kelly LeBrock as triumphant, should I like to agree with? And the film's greatest asset, I would also agree with that. She thought the film's appeal was limited to audiences of 15 year old boys and quote, maybe the 16 year olds if they aren't yet too fussy. And I mentioned this because I was 15 years old when I saw this movie in the theater. I was the target audience, and I loved it, and I've seen it many times since, and I appreciate that they made it. It's also insane in 2025 to watch this. And yet, is this a movie that makes more sense in 1985 or 2025, too? You're stupid, but why? I think it made perfect sense for me in '85. Bill, I think I saw it when I was maybe eight, and I was like, holy shit, this is awesome. The computers and the girls and the cars and high school, I can't wait to get to high school. I think in '85, it was like, okay, this is probably John Hughes' least serious movie. Probably his least respected '80s movie. But in '85, it fit right in because the stuff I already said, beautiful woman, horny dudes, cool fast cars, so many bullies, just bullies on bullies. And now as we watch it, it's like, I know we're going to get to all this. All-time, all-time Bill Paxton, really fun, young, downy to look back at and showing up like in weird places. And I still think it's a fun watch, but it's a really weird one now. I would go more towards super fun watch with some weird elements that I just think you have to factor in with the '80s. But I had this list of semi-deranged 1985 teen movies because for some reason it's specific for 1985. Because I think we'd had some teen movies for a couple years and then people were like, what if we just start getting a little weird? Let's push it. Yeah. So weird science made by John Hughes, so we're going to talk about who had made 16 candles, he made breakfast clubbies, made a million things. But this is probably the weirdest of all the '80s movies he's made. So there's that one. There's 'Better Off Dead' made by Savage Steve Holland, which is almost like parodying the teen movie as they're making a teen movie. It's Teen Wolf, which we've already done in the movie. My first watchable. There's just one of the guys, which we haven't done yet, but it's on the list. There's Legend of Billie Jean, which we just did. There's Secret admirer, which is a combination teen movie, but it's also like the ice storm. It's like multiple couples having like marital issues and then it just doesn't know what's happening. Vision Quest about the horny wrestler who has the hot 22 year old move in. And then mischief, which goes back to the 50s, but it's basically the same premise of kid trying to get laid, Kelly Preston's there. There's some James Dean type guy. So I just listed eight movies where they were like, let's get weird, there are probably more than that. And then after that, we start moving into some different era. We start getting into like Lucas and you know, I don't know, it's just shifts after this year. And it does make sense. And I think there's a cross section that I have. I have my own list that really in the diagram with yours is perfect for weird science. Like you mentioned the Linda Fiorentino character, I vision quest, right? So in the 80s right now at this point, there is a run on mystical, almost magical, beautiful women showing up in movies. And women were getting glamorized so differently then because of MTV and all of the media right now. But just think about this. So in before weird science, we have splash where there's this beautiful mermaid that comes out of the water and loves from hangs, all right? You have vacation where like the dorky dad's driving cross country and oh my god in a red Ferrari. There's the hottest woman of all time just keeps appearing magically next to me. A couple years after this bill, if you want to talk about how weird it gets, then we're going to mannequin where now we're like Andrew McCarty's fall in love with the mannequin in an apartment store like these magical women who are almost science fiction, but are so beautiful come and find the dorky guy and weird science was right in the middle of that. It's probably the most well known one in that regard. And you left out camp. I mean love, which is another version of this where the guys like, what if I used all my lawnmower money for a couple years and bought a fake girlfriend for a couple months. But the premise over and over again in the 80s was just guys trying to get laid. And there's all these different eras for it that are trapped from like 80 to 83, 82 to 85. A big part of this was the high school kids trying to get laid and it's interesting watching this movie now and seeing all the stuff that spilled into movies from the 2000s. Like I feel like I don't know which was the biggest influence on super bad, but I think you can make a case. It's weird science. Agreed. There's the big party scene. Jonah Hills character is very similar to the Anthony Michael Hall character. I actually feel like they're, it's almost like it's his son, but a hundred percent spot on. And I also thought the same thing. This movie ends almost the same way super bad ends with the two guys separately going with these girls that they like, and then reconvening at the end and it being more about their relationship as much as it is their relationship with the girls. You have a crazy party and super bad. You have an important mall scene and super bad. You have these guys just completely fucking it up with girls they like. It's like the two and two that like there's an immediate match. You know what the match is and so I, I never really, and I've seen this weird sign so many times, but I had it seen it probably in like five, six years and that super bad thing jumped out to me. And you do have a super bad like really funny side characters like Rogan and Hater who are showing up in just like killing scenes and that's Paxton here, that's, that's downy, that's everybody that's John Capelose in one scene like just people showing up. It's also dude like also a super bad. I haven't watched this in a while, but I've watched it a hundred times. This movie is super quotable. It was one of those things that I say so many of these things that these characters say like to this day, if my friend hands me a beer, I'll be like, do you spit in this? You know, like just all the dumb chat lines. I say all that shit. Just like a super bad. Yeah, we had, this is a big quote movie for me and my high school friends and then two of them went on to go to Colgate. So I'm in, I've been in the fantasy football league with all these guys since 1990 and I told them we were doing this and it just immediately like quotes started flying around. The one that for some reason we did the most, my buddy Jim Grady, it's Gary's dad when it was the who, who's Gary, who's this Gary character, we did that for 12 years. Anytime one of our friends started dating a girl and like kind of disappeared for a couple weeks, we'd be like, who's, who's can't, who's this camp character you keep talking about? I don't know why, but Gary's dad was like the legacy of this movie for us. We fucking love him. My friends and I quote Gary's dad too, but we quote whenever we're going to a party, we call it a suaray and we go, suar, what, suar, what, I constantly, to this day, I'll say suar, what? The guy was amazing. All right, I have some questions before we get to John Hughes. Sure. You normally have put these in probably an answerable questions, but I think we have to get into this now because the premise of this movie is these guys create their dream girl from a computer, feeding magazine pictures into it and there's some Frankenstein elements. Yeah. And lightning and some things that just made more sense in the '80s than they do know. Were these the first two hackers or would you say in a movie or would you go back to Wargames? Do you count Matthew Broderick's character in Wargames as a hacker or would you say these two are the real hackers? And did we have a hacker before this? [BLANK_AUDIO] I was thinking about this. That couldn't really come up with one. - It's in the details. Like, why didn't Gary full up set out to hack? Like, they're going on the computer to hack and they're trying to hack into some sort of military thing that I don't understand. I think they're a little bit more premeditated than in war games. But ironically, they both end up with a nuclear missile. Like, that's just how it, that's how it is. 'Cause everything came up in the '80s. It just did. All roads led to nukes in '80s movies. You had to. - There was this stretch in from, I would say, '80 to '87 in movies where I would have believed anything that involved the computer 'cause they didn't understand it, right? So it's like, could Matthew Browder play chess with the computer? Sure, I don't, I mean, we had a, I had like one of the earliest apples that I really only used to play for video games. Like, we had it as somebody got it for, I don't even think it was for me. I think my stepdad just got one, we had it, and I would just go and play like four or five different games, including Dr. J versus Larry Bird. So when I would see a movie like this, I was like, could I do stuff like this on my computer? But I don't even, we didn't even have like an internet. Like, I don't even know how they were able to go from that computer into anything. - I don't either. And we, isn't interesting 'cause the last pod you and I did, we did sneakers, which is in the '90s, and we still don't know what computers could do with this. That was years later and we still don't know what they were capable of. But I think like, I think when Wyatt and Gary start hacking in the computer and it gets super cheesy and everything, I bet in the theater in 1985, people were fucking screaming. Like, oh my God, they're in a tunnel. And it says access denied and then Wyatt makes it go away and it makes a bowling ball sound, holy shit. That was like the beach scene in private Ryan. They could not fucking believe what they were watching. I think it was crazy. - Well, that's why I asked you before about 85 versus 25. - 85. - Because now you could make a version of weird science about AI, which none of us understand either. And I feel like I would believe that too. It's like, these guys created a girlfriend and AI. It's like, sure, it sounds like something. - That's gonna be the real AI family. - Yeah, it's gonna be weird intelligence and Gary and Wyatt make a hot woman out of AI. That's coming, it's here. - Yeah. All right, so that was my first question. The next one is, and we've talked about this in the past, like pump up the volume, clearly created podcasts. - Yeah. - There's been a few of these. Did this movie create Alexa AI and Chatchee BT? Because initially they wanted their feeding computer. They're trying to just get answers, which I'd never really seen a computer do before. But when you think about it, they're basically creating Amazon Alexa coming to life that could also have sex with them. Was the goal, but that's Amazon Alexa. - No, I think that Wyatt and Gary are trying to give Siri huge cans. That's Siri here, right? - Another one. - Yeah, Siri with big cans. - Yes, I think they're ahead of it. I think they're way ahead of it. And also, by the way, listen, they make her unbelievably intelligent, all knowing Albert Einstein's brains, David Lee Roth's, Flamboyance, all of that stuff. So I do think that like Amazon and Alexa and Siri stand on the shoulders of Lisa. I do. Whoever created Siri was, if they were inspired by weird science. Like Wyatt and Gary were on something. People just want answers. - It's that. And then it's also like, I think we've talked about it. Like the movie "Her" with "Walking Phoenix" is an all time, all fucking time. Or he has sex with the beach 'cause he thinks it's Scarlett Johansson. Like that was the movie 15 years or so later, whatever that was that weird science was doing. There's always been like, I wanna make a fake hot woman 'cause I can't meet a real one. And they don't wanna talk to me. And it's like, that was even into the '90s. That's, you know, that song "Creep" by Radiohead. That's just about like a guy who like the hot girls won't talk to him and he's miserable. That's really, they was in the '80s. It's timeless. No one will talk to me. So I should make someone and then they'll talk to me. - Yeah, but this makes more sense. I mean, Derek Thompson just did a podcast for us about male loneliness and, you know, people who just, it's just easier not to even have relationships with anybody and just do everything through the computer basically. And that's kind of how you interact, which is what made it. That's why I asked before about 85 versus 20, 25. Like, these kids ultimately they're doing this because they can't meet anybody. And when we made these movies in the '80s, it was like, oh, but they will, because you know, this is, it'll all work out for them. - I know. - But now these kids probably don't leave the house. - No, they don't. And I think when Gary's like, why, let's make a woman on your computer, why it would be like, let's just go to Pornhub. We'll take two seconds. We can see anything we want. And they just click on that, it's done. They would just watch porn now. - See, John Hughes saw it all coming. - But damn right. - John Hughes, we always do this. I have to just give his 83 to 90 run really quickly. Mr. Mom wrote it, vacation wrote it, 16 candles, breakfast club, European vacation wrote that. Weird science, pretty in pink, fairs, viewers, some kind of wonderful planes, trains and automobiles. She's having a baby, the great outdoors, Uncle Buck, and then wrote Christmas vacation and wrote home alone. And it was in eight years. And it's, I wrote that on my notes here. - Hughes and Taylor Sheridan are the two greatest creative forces we've ever had. They're the two people that you could be like, is the limitless drug real? - Yes. - Did these guys take the limitless drug? Did they find it? Did somebody give it to them? 'Cause there's no other explanation. - Also, the weird science to me feels heat checky for Hughes too, like he has already done, pretty in pink, he has already done breakfast club. He does this movie right after breakfast club. He came out the same year about eight months apart. And the story goes that he's like on set with, in the breakfast club and he loves Anthony Michael Hall. He wants to make every movie with him. And he's like, I got our next movie. We're gonna make a woman and you're gonna be in it. And Anthony Michael, I was like, sure, let's go for it. And he, he makes the heat check. That's the thing, like this movie is still being talked about 40 years later. And it's all so cool because you would get this, especially if you're in high school. Like, it's the Hughes verse. It's all in the same town. And if people seem kind of related. And if you're a huge Hughes head like me, when you watch weird science, there's even parts of dialogue like why it, or Gary talks about his girlfriend in Canada. Like, that's the thing directly from breakfast club. - Right. - He makes the joke about Lisa could have fun in an insurance seminar. Neil Page talks about insurance seminars and plane strands and automobiles. Like, there's a lot of crossover. And if you're a nerd for it, you just immediately perk up. - Yeah, she's in the Niagara Falls area. - Yeah, I wouldn't know her. I met her in Canada. Same thing in this movie, same joke. - Another joke that's gone on for 40 years. I didn't always forget that Hughes really saw Anthony Michael Hollis as proxy. He's always playing Hughes in every film. And Hughes obviously had a lot of pent up stuff from when he was in high school, which Roger Ebert in his review, which I'll give you the stars later. But he wrote that Hall was the geek in 16 candles in the intellectual and breakfast club. And I liked John Hughes' definition of a geek. So he quotes John Hughes. I couldn't find this. Ebert was the only one that said John Hughes said this. A geek is the guy. A geek is the guy who has everything going for him, but he's just too young. By contrast, a nerd will be a nerd all of his life. - Yes. - I thought that was such a great way to put it. - That's poetic. - Geeks can break out of it, nerds can't. - Yeah. - But I don't feel like we used the word geek as much anymore. We just use nerds and dorks. So maybe his dork now geek, but I don't know. - I remember it was very invoked when it was the geek squad would like come to your house and set up your Wi-Fi from Best Buy or whatever. They branded it a little bit. But I always feel like it's, at least now, like nerds are really proud of being a nerds. I've called myself a nerd twice in this podcast. Like we're a nerd for Lord of the Rings. You're a nerd for Star Wars. It's actually really cool. But in the 80s, I'm not sure that it was. - Yeah, we call it nerd culture at the ringer. - So nerd became, and Geeks kind of bounced out. But you know, the Anthony Michael Hall character in this movie is a good example, right? He clearly doesn't know how to make the meal yet, but he has the tools and you know it's gonna have, you know he's gonna go to college and he's gonna blossom and it's all sitting there inside him. I'm not sure about, I'm not sure about why it. - Why, yeah, that's tough. - Yeah, I'm not sure what happens with why it down the road. - Well, one of my problems with the movie as an adult, not just watching it. I'm like, Gary's really cool. What's going on here? Gary is charismatic, funny, confident. He's got the cool 80s haircut. Like I know that he's the nerd and breakfast club and stuff and pretty in pink, but like you tell me, Gary, Gary feels more like Ferris Bueller to me. Like he's just like the guy that everyone would want to be around and he's kind of playing the nerd. It's a little bit of a tough sell 'cause he's just so charismatic. - Well, it's funny 'cause, so he does, Anthony McCall does vacation, 16 candles, weird science and breakfast club all in a row. And basically in that order, except that they filmed weird science and breakfast club next to each other. But he comes out of those four and then they want him to be in pretty in pink and they want him to be in Ferris Bueller. 'Cause he was just like, you're my guy. This is like, I'm score stays in your deniro, basically. And he turned down both roles. Now, I understand why he turned down pretty in pink 'cause that was basically Hugh's karaoke in a lot of ways and it has to him. - And this is Ducky, this is the John Prior role. - Right. But Ferris, I think would have been a really good Anthony McCall kind of move for him. To kind of move away from the dorkside tap into the weird science. Like, oh, you're sick really cool but then actually really be the cool guy. And I think he should have done it. I think it's a big mess for him. [BLANK_AUDIO] So he ended up going on SNL and eat? Where does he play Cameron? - No, he would have been Ferris. - Well, Ferris killed him. Yeah, I mean, that's an all-time rule. But you know what? He's like, he does that thing, and you're saying where he's like, I've played the nerd so many times, I gotta start being cool, I gotta do this, I gotta beat the jock. And then as you know, where this leads is, he becomes the jock in Johnny Be Good, back down. And like, dude, I don't like that movie at all. I think it's boring and I'm just not into it. Even though it's, it's Young Uma Thurman. - Yeah. - She's coming out of nowhere and everybody's like, all right, at least Young Uma Thurman's in this and then everything that happened with her. There's another Anthony Michael Hall thing too. And I'm just gonna give him an award early here. The Sasha Jenkins Award for Actor, I can't believe we've been become a bigger star. So Stanley Kubrick, for some reason, loved John Hughes movies and loved Hall and Hughes and that connection. And decided he wanted Anthony Michael Hall in Full Metal Jacket and wanted him to be Joker and they negotiated, I'm not kidding, 'cause I checked this out multiple different ways. They negotiated for over half a year and then he ended up not doing it and he went to Modine. Now, on top of this, Anthony Michael Hall joined the cast of SNL for season 11 with Downey. He had a drinking problem. Like, I think he basically became sober by the time he was 18. So he probably had some issues. But man, even if he just comes out of these four movies and does Ferris and then Full Metal Jacket, is this like one of the biggest stars of the '80s? - Yes. I think with his talent and that role in that director, I think he gets an Academy Award nomination for Full Metal Jacket, especially as Joker. I mean, that's a heavy, heavy part. And then dude, his SNL thing is so strange and so intense. First of all, youngest cast member ever, 17 years old, they get casted in SNL. 85 is known as like the weird season where- - Yeah, they just did documentary about it. - Or maybe about it, about how weird it was. - Yeah, he went away, came back and then he's like, I'm gonna hire Randy Quaid, Anthony Michael Hall, Downey Jr., Damon Wayans is showing up and then a year later, it's like they were all just gone. It's really, really the strangest season in this history. - Craig, will you come into the Zoom for a second? - Yo. - As somebody who really grew up in the super bad, Jonah Hill, that whole universe. What was the difference to Anthony Michael Hall in the mid 80s and Jonah Hill in the late 2000s that you could see? - I think Jonah Hill had an anger to him. Anthony Michael Hall was sweet. And I think a lot of the guys who wanted to get late in the later movies are angry. Jonah Hill was a yeller, you know? Like that was what he was best at. It's just crossing people out. Anthony Michael Hall, I think had a sweetness to him that Jonah Hill didn't need. - So who was his 2000s doppelganger? Is it more like in the Jason Siegel realm? - Or it's Michael Sarah. - He probably plays Michael Sarah in super bad. - So it shows up running Mary, like 20 years later. - Johnny be good. He doesn't have that edge to him. I think that the Jason Siegel is interesting too. Like that's, it's maybe more like that. - Yeah, Siegel's a good one too. - Siegel's very nice. Like he's like, one of those things about the 80s is because we had less stuff going on. You really could get typecast in like a crazy way, right? So he's in these four Hughes movies. And at some point you're just like, oh, you're the dork. And that's what leads to the Johnny be good move. Where he's like, no, not only am I not a dork, I was on SNL and now I'm playing a quarterback in a high school recruiting movie, which is terrible. - Well, you see it a lot. I mean, a lot of these guys try to bust out of that typecast. Jonah Hill tried to do it himself where he was like, I'm going drama. I'm gonna change the way I look. Like he completely pivoted. So it happens. - Yeah, he didn't want any part of that. And ironically, he did a couple really good things. Like, one of my son's favorite movies has been Dindes. He loves that movie. And I think that's a really beloved movie that Jonah directed and wrote. - Yeah, Moneyball, Wolf of Wall Street, yeah. - Yeah, it worked out for him. But my point is, I think it should have worked out for Anthony Michael Hall. - Yeah. - You gotta get in that Kubrick movie, dude. You gotta get in it. At that point, like you can't be money, anything, get in the movie, take up any part in that movie and you're set. - Well, it seems like he had some hands-on child actor parents. - I bet. - That were like, he can't do Ferris. That he can't do another Hughes movie. It's like, no, he should do Ferris. That movie's gonna be a monster. - I think it's an interesting choice for him after 16 candles and weird science and breakfast club. All of those came out before he was on SNL, I believe, which started in the fall of '85. Don't you think that's kind of an odd move for somebody who's essentially like the rising movie star in Hollywood? And he decides to go on Saturday Night Live? - Yeah, well, I think he was having issues as part of the problem. So, and you take a job where you have to work on Saturday nights? I don't know. - And I don't think it worked out great for him or Danny. - Yeah, interesting career choices. - Honestly, if you, you know the strangest thing, '85, the season, the opening sketch of the entire season is Lauren Michaels giving the cast a drug test. Like a wink, wink, wink. Like we've had some problems and it was really frowned upon and it's like a race from the internet. Now you can't find it anymore. - Oh, really? - Yes. - Wow. - Yeah, it's a tough, that whole season, dude, they had simple minds by the first episode. They didn't play it, don't you forget about me? What are we doing here? That's the reason you're here. That's the hit song. Everything was kind of off. - It's awful. It seemed like the show was going to get canceled after the season. - All right, thanks, Craig. We're bringing you back for a flex. Kelly LeBrock, her first three movies ever. This is her IMDB woman in red with Gene Wilder, weird science and hard to kill, which we've already done in the rewatchables. Married to her beloved Steven Segal, who's kind of our spirit animal, Kyle and I. - Stop that. - She was married to Steven Segal. - Kelly LeBrock. - Kelly LeBrock. - I don't think I knew that. - Buckle up, cut it. - This changes everything. - Buckle up, Craig. - All right, so Bill, should we talk about it? - Yeah, let's do it. - Okay. So she does this movie, takes a long break, Kelly LeBrock. Like she doesn't do another movie for five years and it's hard to kill. She meets Steven Segal around 87 when he's going from like stunt trainer right above her. - Earlier 86. - 86, all right. So he's gonna do above the law. He's not a movie star yet. She meets them, they fall in love. - Craig, they got kids together. They were married for over a decade. This was a bona fide like Hollywood power couple for over a decade. And she's like, I don't know. He was mystical and all-knowing and kind. And I was just in a vulnerable place. And that's love. - She's like, I saw him run and I knew once I saw him jogging. I heard he shit his pants all the time. - I have a theory actually that I was trying to think about how did this movie, doing weird science, lead to her marry in Steven Segal. And my theory is that she has to play like a perfect person and like that's tough to get over. So she's like, I think in my dating life I'm gonna meet someone who actually thinks they are a perfect person. And maybe they can identify with me. And then she met Steven. She's like, you're the guy I'm looking for and that's how it worked. It's a great theory. I think there's a counter theory that she might have just had terrible taste in bed. - Ah, that's strong. That's strong, clearly. - She's like, she's talking to her friends. They're like, so who have you been hanging out with the last couple weeks? And she goes, well, there's this guy who teaches martial arts for a couple of CA agents that they're trying to turn on a movie star. He's got a ponytail, he's mystical. And he's just an enormous asshole and I can't get enough of him. Well, don't go on a date with the Iranian Canyon 'cause he'll probably jog and then you'll throw up and leave. Don't do that, don't watch 'em run. - If you listen to this guy talk for 15 minutes you'll hit your head against the wall. I can't get enough. So the two lost actresses of the 80s for falling in love were her and Phoebe Cates. - Oh yeah. - 'Cause Phoebe Cates was on a run, met Kevin Klein. I was just like, hey, cool, I love Kevin Klein. I'm gonna do a family. That's the happy version of this. This is the more depressing version where she ends up trying to raise a family with Segal. Only makes the one movie come back for Heart to Kill, which we've already done, which is one of the funniest action movies ever. And I don't know. And there's a John Hughes documentary where she said where it's signed. She plays Mary Poppins with Bress, which I thought was a good way to describe the character. It's, she's the best part of the movie. It's actually a really cool character and it's not what you think the character is gonna be. She's her, she's created not to have sex with these dudes, but to actually make them better people. And they kind of are better people by the end of this movie. Like mission accomplished, I guess. - I got some thoughts on that later. But she, Kelly the Brock is good in this movie. Up into and including the final scene where she's full on tearing up and crying as she says goodbye to the boys. It's her second movie ever. She's very, very talented. And I have to say any interview I've ever seen with her, she seemed like a really cool lady. - Care's mad at Witty, she bust balls, I like her. - Yeah, like 10 years later or 11 years later, she's probably the Elizabeth Hurley part in Austin Powers. And probably has this whole late 90s run, but anyway. This was based on the 1951 pre-comics code comic made of the future by Al Feldstein. You probably don't have that one. - I do not. - $7.5 million dollar budget. It made $38.9 million dollars. - Let's go. - Partly 'cause everybody was in high school, it went to it, including me. Roger Rebert, three stars. - Fuck yeah. - Coming off a really tough Raj last week. - Oh, for Snake, guys. - Yeah, they gave it the one star for Snake, guys. It's tough. - That's a spite reading. - We worked it out with Raj. He said weird science, by its two great traditions and popular entertainment inflamed male teenage fantasies and Frankenstein's monster. Then it crosses them with a new myth that of the teenage computer geniuses who locked themselves in their bedrooms, hunter of their computer keyboards and write programs that can change the universe. Raj. Yeah. I never ever come in that Roger Ebert, but I eventually guessed there's a point in his life he wished he could have made a woman. And I get it, you know, I think you might have wanted that. No question. And he said, Kelly LeBarca is wonderful as the fantasy woman. The film was funnier or a little deeper than the predictable story. It might have been. So there you go. Okay. It's time to get into our favorite segment, the most rewatchable scene, which today is brought to you by PayPal. From now through December 8th, you can get 20% cashback when you pay in four with PayPal. No fee is no interest. Save the offer in the app now. Okay. I love the opening credits. So do I. I love being in the gym. I love the gateum. You know, the pants pull is coming. We get the proper lot of horniness and gyms in the 80s. I don't know if that's carried over. Now it's like a place you get a staff infection. Yeah. And also like that gym thing brings back gym uniforms where in the middle of your school day, we would just all go and change out of our clothes together. And then the girls would do it. And then sometimes you'd have to shower together. It's a really, really strange thing to look back on that I had not thought about in a long time. Just straight up stripping down after fourth period in the middle of school every day. Then stripping back up. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that goes. We get the cheer. Then we go right into the theme song. I know. Let's go. I have multiple categories. Talk about the things. I know you do. All right. So that's one. Second one, they create the girl on the computer. Anything bigger than a handful. That just great job guys. I wanted to live. You wanted to breathe. You wanted to aerobicize. There's a couple of nice touches in here that are very mid 80s. There's a trunk with a lock that has a bunch of playboys and pet houses in it. Oh, yeah. Just let me tell you something. I had a few friends. I was not one of those friends, but I had a few friends with the trunk. They weigh bronze in their heads. And then in a really good special effects scene, they create Kelly LaBrock, which I'm going to have to give the OK Motherfucker Award for the exact moment when this movie goes up a notch. It's fucking crazy. Like really good special effects. How are we able to do this in 1985? Fantastic. And so many things that this movie moves so fucking fast that they are already creating Lisa at the 8 minute mark of the movie. And I'll have you know as I watched it as a lot, watch this movie in a lot of sleepovers, maybe 5th grade, 6th grade, we would rewind the part on the computer where the boobs get really big. Not even a human being, just a computer rendition. And I think it's important that we've revisited this topic a few times over the years. I can't explain to young people right now. If you were a young person in the 80s, how difficult it was to get even a basic image of a naked woman. It was so hard. This is scrambled porn Apex mountain. You couldn't do it. Unless your friend's dad had a playboy, like you could not get it no matter what. And so it was so crazy that those things were on the computer like that. And we blew us away. You're scouring closets looking for any cassette or anything, anything in guest bedroom that maybe your uncle left be. You just didn't know. The liner notes of appetite for destruction have like an illustration of a kind of naked woman. It's really gross and weird. But I would look at it. Be like, that's something. I'm the guy who would go to the magazine store and be like, can I get a playboy? It's for my dad. And look at this. It's just nuts. I just wanted to see it. And you couldn't. The candy bar scene. Yeah. How about that? Which might pop up in a couple other for categories. I don't know, man. The 80s were just different. I like how fucking weird it is. Our guy, Carl the janitor from breakfast clubs in it. Capulose. Playing, playing Dino. She likes the Malacca's Dino. Hall is just going for it. He's basically doing a richer prior impersonation, which they said in the research that Hughes and Ethan Meghal just both love richer prior. And they wanted a scene where it's basically like, let's just do richer prior for four minutes. It's bonkers. I don't know. I still enjoy watching it. They, they soft tested the richer prior to because in the breakfast club, when the kids all get high. Right. All the sudden Brian starts doing like chicks can't hold their smoke. That's what it is. And like Judd Nelson's laughing at him. So someone probably in many people, including like studio execs, we're like, yes. Yes. Manning Michael Hall doing that voice and getting high and drunk. Put more of that in the next movie. It's awesome. Whereas now they'll be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we got to cut. We got to cut. It's unbelievable. One of the things I like about the scene still is how much the actors seem to be enjoying it or sit around the table. Like they're actually getting like a genuine kick out of how fucking crazy he is. Yeah. It's the candy bar with an eye, candy with an eye, shows the name of the bar. Cheat tries to make Gary throw up drunk, Gary. How about greasy, pork, sand, like all the stuff. This is like classic big brother. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is an unbelievable great Bill Paxton. And I also think that Anthony Michael Hall is hilarious in this scene. If you don't like them at the club, whatever it's, it's not aged well, just playing a drunk guy and he's like, no shit, shit, no shit, shit is fucking perfect. And it's it's arguably my favorite scene on the movie on the top of the stairs. Cheat, maybe five years later, he applies for real world, real world New York, I think, but doesn't make it past them, maybe the second cut, but they are thinking like, oh, this could be our instigator house member. We get this guy Chad from Illinois, sent us this crazy tape. He claims that his little brother created a girl on the internet. Should we bring him in for an interview? I think they're thinking about it at least. What an all-time pull. Chad would be a real world cast member. And I like absolutely, he's basically right. He's puck in real world San Francisco. Yeah, he's like redneck puck with a shotgun. He has all he's like sexually charged. He's a bully. He'd be great in the confessionals. He's also like sneaky horny. It's believe me. I say this as a guy who did it. Like they, that's all the things they're looking for. That's perfect. Spill drink at the mall, down in his villain friend, spilling the red, what was that drink? Now, I see the polar bear on those guys right into Lisa fucking with the villains. I just listen, if we're in the 80s mall, I'm there and I'm ready for whatever is going to happen. Like, oh, it's so clean. And the stores just looked so inviting. And there was always just people happily walking around with food. It really was great. It's so great. And yet, I'm just going to be honest what they do. Now I'm just thinking of Chad being on the challenge. Like would he be on T real world? Yeah, I ruined you now. And when you backpack Johnny bananas, would he have fought CT eventually? Like we are full. He's going to hook up with Anisa and Tanya in the hot tub on the dark room cam. Holy shit. He's shit. Cheat-futed. Cheat-futed with Theo Vaughn. But now they've made up and he's on his podcast because he just got out of drug rehab again. To him and Mark, it's long now. They kind of just run the industry and they're looked at as the godfathers of the post-real worlders and you see him around and they're good dudes and Chad has long hair now. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. You know, I guess we've never talked about this. The fork of the road of your career. We just started to go into sports media. But you really could have done the challenge for like 20 years. I got asked many, many, many times. You played football in college. Like, you would have been one of the guys. There would have been specific things that would have been amazing for you. I always said no. And then every once in a while when I would get a little itch, like, you know, I'm maybe like, I'm 28 now. I'm like, what the hell am I doing? I'll go on down to Mexico and try to win a wave runner or a Saturn. Every time I get the itch, I would see one of the promos for like this season on the challenge and holy shit. It's like guys when bandana's punching each other and like triple kisses in the in the night vision. I'm like, I think I'm past that in my life. Man, I think I'm out. And I would just pass. I think it was a great move. Thank you. Next we will actually we'll see Lisa meets Gary's parents. There we go. There's so many great parts of the scene. I like what she explains what's in the party school. She's going to have an high school the best. There's going to be sex drugs, rock, roll, chips, dips, chains, whips. She outs him out's Gary for jerking off in the bathroom. Gary told me you were calling your hair. And then Gary's dad just bit basically having his memory erased. It's it's just a tour de force. One of the strangest thing is I never before or heard refer to it as tossing off. Is that a British term because she's English? It's a British thing. Yeah, it's a tossing off. I'm glad we're talking this though, because we've talked about weird signs briefly in a couple of previous pods. When I said Daniel Rudy Rudiger has masturbated more than any character in movie history ever, we started putting a crew together and we got Joel Goodson. You immediately are like, oh, don't forget about Wyatt and Gary. They're definitely first ballot. They're in for sure. Vision Quest is in for sure. And we're taking all, I put a Carl River Phoenix from sneakers. He's in the Hall of Fame as well, but warning all the first ballot. To say now, now you've thrown me off. Now I got to think of my people. I feel like one of the guys in the lost boys. Oh, yeah. Those twins. It's a curious. Yeah. Just thinking about the sacks guy. Yes, for sure. And I'm talking, this is non incarcerated version. So like multiple migs doesn't count Andy Dufrein in the whole doesn't count. You can't be incarcerated be in the hall. That's like using PEDs. But the Hall of Fame is named after Migs. I mean, I think that's something. But multiple migs. The multiple migs of them. That's what they call a multiple. Yeah. Second creation attempt at the party. Oh, yeah. Come on, guys. Ladies ones, these 80s teen movies always had to have the moment where popularity made our leads lose their minds. Yes. And it's like down in his buddy. It's how we can be friends and they just kind of lose it. And all of a sudden they're trying to create a second killer, the Brock and they fuck it up. Check in front, everyone in the blue kitchen. When he comes back, the grandparents in the closet are it's still funny. 40 years later, there's a lot of good stuff in this and then the ending where they say goodbye to the girls, General Public's tenderness kicks in. Yep. And Chet turns into a toad, really satisfying ending, then just completely ripped off by super bad. Super bad, heavily inspired by it. We keep mentioning, see, notice how when you're doing the most washable scenes, most of them involved Chet. Chet is in this movie for like three scenes. He takes an hour away from the movie right in the middle of it and it's not even a very long movie, but I think the best weird science is when he's on screen and I love LeBrock and this and I love Anthony Michael Hall. This to me every time Chet's on, I'm not turning away. What do you have for most of you watch about Chet on the stairs trying to make drunk area throw up? I mean, the party when everything's going wrong and the magic is taking over is really fun because the soundtrack's going, but I think like you're absolutely right, yet you're absolutely right. It's just when he the booze hounds return. It's every line is quotable and that's my favorite part, top of the stairs. 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The computer hacking sequence when they're navigating through this labyrinth of electronic stuff and like E equals MC squared is floating around and there's atoms and then we immediately go to Dave TV from David Lee Roth, like that is everything that was going on then. I don't how to beat it. Yeah, I would add tweet to that, everything you said, plus believing you could create a hot girl out of your computer in 1985 is the most 1985 thing about this movie. A couple of other ones, the title song being written and performed by Oingo Boingo. That literally had to happen in 1985 from my heart and from my hand one, when people don't understand, I have to tell you to do about that song. So Elfman, like not a fan, he's kind of disabout it, which is really annoying. He's this prolific screen I score writer for movies for years and years, but like he will give interviews where he's like, yeah, that video is ridiculous. And the best thing that happened to that song with Elfman was that it landed on an episode of Beavis and Butthead and Butthead's like, why didn't they let this guy back in Durand and because he sucks, it's so awesome, because I like that song, I remember that. I like it too. Why it's posters, you got a couple of looks at them, there's some depeche mode, there's aha, there's human leak. It's just like we're right into the vortex of alternative music in the 84. I don't know why the Smiths weren't on there. I guess maybe it wasn't a Smith guy, maybe it more, see it wasn't resident. Crunkful Playboy as we mentioned, David Lee Roth, you mentioned, this is like, there's an 18 month window where made sense to have David Lee Roth in your movie and then by 86, it's over. We'd be like, why is it in this? But in 85 made sense. And then the movie closes with general public tenderness, which, you know, by 85, that's probably the last year you could have done that, but it's really nice. Okay, we rarely get to hand out this award and especially with you here. What do you got? Steven Seagal, shitting on himself a word for most unbelievable anecdote from the actual film shoot. So I just got this right from the internet. In an interview with Howard Stern, Robert Downey Jr. cleared up the rumors that he defecated in Kelly LeBrock's trailer. This is perfect. It's right on the nose. That's what we've ever had. He said that him and his villain buddy, he was played by Robert Russeller, they would joke about defecating and people's trailers throughout the shoot. He admitted they eventually did it in one female cast member's trailer, but it was not Kelly LeBrock. John Hughes questioned ever in the cast who did it. And when he got to Downey, he replied, quote, no, but I sure wish it was me who did it, but he admitted he did it, but they didn't say the cast member was. This is an actual story that's on the internet. Not the best thing that we've handed out. That's by far. I mean, if Downey's not careful, who'd be a Robert Downey shit in Kelly LeBrock's trainer award for a most unbelievable, that's nuts. So he's like, oh, yeah, we definitely took a dump in someone's trailer. Just wasn't Lisa. What? Shit, man. Yeah. It was one of the other female cast members, but he had, he had the just over and over. He just like, yeah, it was pretty fucked up back then. It's been a lot of bad things. Imagine that cast member getting back to her trailer after a hard day shooting. It's tough one. That specified was it in the toilet? Was it on the floor? Like, what was it? I would think you'd do it on the floor. Are there weather? What's the point? If you're trying to prank him, you just do it on the floor. You shit on my trailer, man. You shit on my trailer. What's age the best? You mentioned this movie was filmed at the same high school as the breakfast club and was actually called Shermer High School, which goes back to your John Hughes universe. What else do you have for what's age the best? I mean, just Downey in general. Like it's, if you're an Iron Man guy that you got to watch this movie. It's so surreal to see him. He's so young. He did this at the time. It's like, it's so interesting. At the time he is, he's dating Sarah Jessica Parker, who had just done foot loose and who's doing girls just want to have fun, then he did SNL. He's doing back to school. And like, five years later, he's getting an Oscar nomination for playing Charlie Chaplin. This dickhead in this movie and LeBrock has said, like, she's like, I got asked all the time. Like, what was it like having Robert Downey Jr. And said she's like, whatever, he was just some guy. I didn't even think about him at all, but it's so fun to watch him in this. I had that in what's age the best too. Just like the specific mid 80s, Robert Downey, because the back to school and this character are very similar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Even like from a hairstyle standpoint. Yes. SNL, he kind of had the same vibe. And it was like, who, what is this guy? Do you think he pops in this movie? Would you watch this and like, ooh, that guy's got something. I'm not sure. I don't. That's literally. I don't think so. Back to school, I think it's probably a little bit better. I don't think he really popped until less than zero. You can tell in certain flashes, like, when they do the IC and their girlfriends break up with them and the girlfriends are talking in the background, he's going like, he's like dancing like that. And then he goes right back to, and like, you can tell he's got talent and timing. But this is just, he's just a dickhead in an 80s high school movie. There's nothing to see from it. I thought the special effects age pretty well for a 1985 standpoint, like the stuff going up the chimney. That's not the party scene, the living room, the stuff we ran, it's like, pretty good. It's like culture guest. Yes. Yes. My parents are away for the week as a 1980s teen movie trope has the best. I got it. It's so fun. The parents are coming home, holy shit. I'm going to get in trouble. We got to clean up. And we got to get all the stuff. Maybe it's adventures in babysitting, risky business, the whole movie is about that. And this movie, when they're magically cleaning up everything and the parents walking at the last second, that little end table is just sliding into place. It has you on the edge of your seat. It's always good. My parents are going to find out we had a party and I got to clean up. I love it. Well, what's funny is this also goes on what's age the worst because now you would have ring cameras and security stuff. And if I went away with my wife for a couple of days, I would just be constantly looking at an outdoor making sure nobody's coming in and texting my son and checking him out on life 360. Like, you're not throwing a party at my house and I'm not here. Sorry. Good. You're all over it. We just had Halloween. We had five or six kids who I know. Ding dong ditch us. I'd see him a few days later. I'd be like, hey, Devon, look at you. I got you. on my camera. Little shit. Look at you. And he'd be like, well, no, we just sorry, you can't do any of it. Yeah. Sorry, Mr. Brand. What's age the best? Why it's grandparents just being frozen in the closet is so fucking funny. I don't know who thought of that, but congratulations to that person. You think they're having a good time now? Katatonic in a closet? Every time I laugh. A couple more. They made a TV series in the mid 90s with Vanessa Angel is Lisa during her apex bound when she was in dumb and dumb and then the weird science TV show. I never watched it. I don't know if you were. I don't know. Not only that I never see an episode. I don't know anyone who's ever seen an episode, but Bill apparently was very successful show. It went on for years. 88 episodes. Good for them. I couldn't tell you what channel it was on. I think it was on USA. I think. But I'm not totally sure because I never watched it. LeBrock's speech, I guess Lisa's speech at the end when she's mad. They try to create a second woman and she's like, you had to be big shots, didn't you? You had to show off. When you're going to learn that people like you for who you are, not for what you can give them. Pretty good life lesson. Don't be a big shot. Be who you are. I think at that point, Gary and Wider like, all right enough of this fucking shit. Yeah. Two more. The piano lady was played by Kim Maillan. Kim with a Y. Talk about it. May 1982. Playboy. Playmate. Her three best I and D B credits. Weird science. Girl playing piano. Great. Die hard. Hostage. Roadhouse. Party girl. Unbelievable. And die hard. It's a borderline new. It's a borderline new category. The Kim Maillan. Your best three IMDB category just with no context. I want you to say it's die hard. Roadhouse. I can't beat it. I want you to reference it in future pods. Be like the classic Kim Maillan run of the 80s. Let's talk about the run. She does. This is like in the 90s. It's triple crown. And by the way, she's not only the hostage in die hard. She's the hostage that Hans Gruber's goon find having sex back in the office. And she is top. Oh, you're right. She is in the rewind. The scene Hall of Fame. You're like, Oh my god. Die hard. Has boobs. Let me rewind it again. That's her. And she filed that up with roadhouse. Can you, I mean, Jesus. Can you imagine? Because when you're like in a young actor in Hollywood, like, it's just a series of calls home to your parents, hopefully. And like, how's it going? How's it going? And she's like, yeah, I got. Yeah, Molly Ringwald kind of. I played piano and then the wind blows my clothes off. Great honey. Great job. So John Cazale is the best five movie IMDB run. What's that he would Godfather Godfather too. Okay. After the news. The conversation deer hunter. There's only five IMDB credits. So that's the Cazale is the five. Maybe Kim Maillans that just a random three, your triple crown for your three random. I think it also has to be where none of your characters can have a name. Girl playing piano hostage and party girl. There's no like her name was Donna. Now they can't even call her Sue. And everyone I was to be like, wow. And 94 Jim Kerry to Dumb and Dumber, the mask and Ace Ventura. Yeah. Well, you have you seen Kim Maillans run when she played hostage piano girl and bar actor. Yeah. Jim carried this profile. His characters had names. Get him out. And then the last one I have for you is the Anthony Michael Hall stunned double take. I just want to come out right as a wood sage the best. Nobody else has done it. The he's good at that. And he really he sells it and he holds it for like three, four, five seconds. So just make a run on it. Okay. Big Gunna burger were best use of food and drink. It's probably the icy, right? Definitely the icy. And I liked that after he pours it on him. He drops the cup on his ass too. Yeah. The cup is just the yeah, that's the touchdown spike. Great shot. Gordero word for most cinematic shot. Would you go with the shower combo when they're talking about the girls are getting ready and they and Hughes does the close-ups of the two and then back and forth. I like how he does that. He's showing off there. But to my to to the life of me, I can't understand how they got Kim Maillan to launch out of the chimney and come all the way down into the pond that she lands in or something. And then she's sideways while her clothes are being blown off that that was like some tenant shit. Like I don't I don't know what they were doing. It's I mean, Christopher Nolan. Yeah. Was that like 14 year old Chris Nolan shooting that? I don't know what I was watching. That's that for me. Keep cutting pursuit of happiness where a best needle job. Tenderness, general public, the first few beats of it are great. It's a perfect movie song. You're gonna go with that over the Oingo. Boingo. Well, I have another category for Oingo. Okay. Yeah. Chess Rockwell, Brockliners were best character named Chet has to be just a big brother named Chet who's a fucking asshole person. There's not a lot of Chets. There's a Chet Hanks. There's Chet Homegren brought it back. Chet Homegren. But is there like a nice consciences down to earth character ever named Chet? Like you know what you're getting with the chat. It's perfect. I got to be honest that the Chad Chet Chet universe is pretty grim. I think I think cousin Trent wants in on that too. If it's a Chad Chet Chet Chet, I'm just going to probably assume I'm not going to like you. You almost have to prove to me that I'm going to like you. Yeah. And listen, if you got words about this Chet Reddit, Chet it. You can come and tell us whatever you want. Chet it. Like when Chet Hanks, Chet Hanks was having all his issues. It's perfect. Like of course, his name's Chet. But Chet Homegren brought it back. So now Chets are kind of maybe the sexiest they've been in a while. I mean, like it's okay standpoint. Father's name's Tom. He's like America's dad. Brother's name's Colin. He seems like a normal guy. Chet, little different. Craig, can you come in the zoom for a second? Chet Rollback. Chet Chet Chad. What are your immediate reactions? The worst guy in the frat. Yeah. Yeah. It's brutal. I don't know how you power right then. If you had to name your child one of those three, which one would you pick? Yeah. Like Craig might have kids soon. Like those three names are off the table. I'm guessing. Yeah. I think so. I think I think you can get away with Chad the best Chet and Chet. Those aren't really hard. Even Chad powers. They need them. Chad power is partly because it's a douche. Yeah. Yeah. Those three are all really tough. Just go with Charlie. Chuck maybe even works a little better, although Chuck's kind of like, you know, your one relative or you're not sure if he's going to come to Thanksgiving or not, because he said some issues. There's a, there's a really old Andy Sandberg stand up bit where if you go to the country of Chad, it's just like a white asshole sitting there being like, what's up, man? You want to snap all? I'm going to put the PlayStation going name Chad. Is there a whole Pete Davidson thing as well? Isn't this character named Chad? I don't know. That whole bit with Pete Davidson. Oh, yeah. It's like that brain dead guy. I think his name's also Chad. Chad is tough. I feel bad for the good Chad's out there. I'm sure there exists. Chad Johnson, not just Cinco. There's plenty. Yeah. Chad Johnson works. I guess it maybe it works if you're like a receiver or a safety. You can maybe get away with it. Chad, um, well, the butcher's girlfriend award for weak link in the film. This could go a lot of ways. What do you have? Yes. We're going to get real. This is going to be the here we go, motherfucker, port of the podcast. I just got shoots straight here. All right. So you got these super horny kids and they make a super hot woman. And there's no fucking action here. What are we doing? We made a hot big sister. Gary would have been all over that in 30 seconds. Instead, it's like some sort of like Obi-Wan Kenobi adjacent sex robot who's going to teach me to be a better person and believe in myself. That's a wonderful message. But wildly unrealistic for a 15 year old boy in 1985. I know that there's higher things that calling here, but Jesus Christ, it's, what are we doing? They don't get anything from Lisa. That's the whole reason they built her. Meanwhile, she's kissing on Wyatt and she's shopping for sexy underpants to turn them on. So what is she exactly? It pisses me off. I had the exact same weak link. Get into it. These kids weren't nearly horny enough. What are they doing? Yeah. I just think the real life version of this movie, they create this person. And then it's just like, okay, are we going to switch? She's here to have sex with us. Yeah. I've never had sex before. Like let's. Rock, paper, sister, who's first? Let's go. Yeah, yeah. And then it's like you, all right, you get a half hour, I get a half hour, like you're not leaving the house. Parents aren't coming home. You have this like basically sex robot you've created. You're going to have sex with the robot. Yes. You're not going to be like, yeah, let's go out and get some dinner. You've been to a friendlies. They have fribbles. Paddy Melts are really good there. No, no, no, they're leaving the house. They're not leaving the room. And I respect that Lisa is an enlightened intelligent character. That's why this is a movie. Of course. Yeah. You can't ever have sex with her. But at the same time, hold on. While we're giving Lisa so much credit for being so enlightened, what is she doing just making out with Wyatt out on his patio, like, do you, Wyatt was head would be exploding if that's happening. Like that's, I don't understand what her dynamic is with these boys. She's trying really hard to turn them on with like underwear and stuff and being in the shower, but she's like, I'm more like an older sister to teach them to believe in themselves. Well, shit, which is it? - I don't think John Hughes was thinking about a lot of this stuff in 1985. He was just like sex-robot. - It's very strange. - Well, that leads us to what's age the worst. - The Brock and Elon Mitchell Smith making out in that scene you mentioned. - Yeah. - He was 15 and a half. - Okay. - Go on. - 15 and a half. It was kind of shocking when it happened. 'Cause it was right, those standards were obviously different back then. But wow. I looked it up. I was like, "Oh, is this kid like 20?" He was like, "No." He was born in 1969. And she's like, they're like making out. - They're making out for a prolonged time. And the dynamic that if you watch it, if you really want to look for it now is like, he's very uncomfortable. And he doesn't know what to do. And he maybe part of him wants to stop. But one of the fun things about this movie, just aside, this is not fun. But what's fun is like, they don't have 25 year olds playing high school kids. These are real high school age kids. Like they went authentic, which is cool. But it's very strange there. It's, I don't know. - Also strange, why are it wearing her underwear for multiple minutes? It's just like what? - Like your panties. - Why did somebody in the set stop that? - There's some sub-gay slurs in this movie we have to mention that there's some, we mentioned the Richard Prior Omar scene, which I don't think, I don't think they would run that one back. - No. - Is my guess? - No. - But in the 80s, whatever. I also had naming your dream girl, Lisa. Something people are doing that now. I think it's a better name. - Yeah, it's like, I don't know what it is. - That was my flex fail, dammit. - Oh shit, I told you to give me a heads up. - No, I had a lot of them, instead of best character name, I had worse character name and it's just naming your dream girl, Lisa, with just no thought. - All right, we'll stay on for what's age the worst and then we can do your flex so we don't step on it. What else did you have Kyle? - All right, well, I had more to say on the kiss. I was thinking of, I was gonna do an Apex mountain for a uncomfortable kisses. - It's not quite Deniro and Juliet Lewis and Cape Fear, which I feel like a crime is being committed as I'm watching it. - It's so horrible. And Marty's just seeing him like, yeah, let's go. - Yeah, sucker fingers. - There's an infamous one in a movie called Blank Check where Duff the VJ from MTV is kissing this little boy passionately that's fucked up. I guess, what can we say? I guess it was looked at differently 'cause a lot of people saw this and said it was fine back then, but now we're like, this is weird. - Well, 15-year-old Bill was like, this is the best thing I've ever seen in my life. And Bill paid. - Maybe this will happen to me. - All right, Craig, what do you have for your flex? Let's just get it over with. - Yeah, outside of naming your dream girl, Lisa. - What would you have? - I named your dream girl by the way. - Yeah, what would it be? - I don't know. I guess it was Lisa a cool name in 1985. - Definitely. - 'Cause there's no. - Craig, you should've said to Liz. I'd left that and I gave that. - Oh, sure. - It was like a fucking album. - You threw it out of you. - Thanks to the rim for you. - Jesus Christ. But I see her as something more than just some robot. How dare you. - Yeah, good, good audible. - Yeah, I don't know. It's like, who's naming their daughter, Lisa in 2020? - Is it like Hazel or Simpson? - The Simpson's ruined Lisa. Like that's it. Lisa Simpson, you're not naming your dream girl, Lisa after Lisa Simpson. I just think that's, it's out. - I feel a little bit bad now. Now that you said he's 15 and a half, but I'm gonna give the, I've only used this category once and I gave it to Ethan Embry. But it's the Matt Flynn $26 million dollar contract award for the actor I can't believe we thought was a lead. And that's Elon Mitchell Smith, who I think drags this movie down. And if you could just like put Robert Downey Jr., just as him, the whole movie is so much better. He's tough in this movie. Am I wrong? I mean, I like this movie and we'll get into it at the end. But every, every time he has to deliver a line, it's kind of rough, right? - It's, you know what, it's very similar too, is the Wiley Wiggins, Stayston Confused Performance. - Good call. - It says Mitch Kramer. - Good call. - Yeah, where it's just, you're putting a lot on him. - You know, and it really is. - It's, I'm trying to, who's the quarterback in 2025, where it's just like, man, I don't know. This is a lot of offense to throw it. It's like JJ McCarthy right now. It's like, oh Jesus. - Guys, not ready. - Oh no, he's got these two receivers, a Kevin O'Connell. But I don't know if he can complain to straight pass. - Yeah. - This is, Craig is someone who like spent years with this movie. You just kind of tolerate him. - You know, it's not right. He's our guy, just like Wiley Wiggins, you tolerate him. He was, his voice is excruciating. - Yeah. - And he's like, I miss him. I miss him in my room. - And he was cast at him because he thought his voice was interesting. And he's like, yeah, I'll do you. And he's the guy who like does, he makes the rounds. He comes to the comic con type things and he'll speak. He's a professor now. - I know, I feel bad because he's probably listening. But there's like, it's same thing for Mitch Kramer. - I like, the IMDB usually doesn't lie. And you see the movies after the movie. And it's like, well, yeah, I think the IMDB speaks for itself. - Yeah, it's just a heavy load to carry as a lead at this age. It's like, it's rare to find Anthony Michael Halls. You know, it's tough. It's a tough casting move. - Downy would have been the move. - Downy, I think would have been good. And I think he could have played a nerd 'cause I don't think he gave off super cool guy jock vibes. Like, not that I guess he was a jock, but I think you could have realistically put him in that, in that Wyatt spot and it would have played. - Wow. This movie has a completely different show life. If it's Downy and Michael Hall as the two stars. - And they're like, after Iron Man, this movie evolves into some different stratosphere. - And those two are like lifelong friends. And Michael Hall's the godfather of Downy's kid. Like that would have been, I mean, they reunited and stupid ass Johnny would be good again, which we're talking about. But that's a great call. I, can I, I wanna give one more of what's the age of the worst? This is pretty important. When we did the Wayne's World pod, we talked a lot about Wayne's World 2 and we're like, it's very, very dependent on knowing Oliver Stone's the doors movie, that's pretty fucking weird. If you watch this movie and are not familiar with the road warrior, which is like the sequel to Mad Max. - It's a great point. - What the fucking hell is going on here with these guys on the motorcycles? I am lost. It's very strange. - I was one of those people who was lost. - Okay, yeah, Craig, when you're watching these guys come in and it's pulled right from this movie that it just come out. Same actor, same makeup, same everything. They're like doing an homage to it. What are you thinking? - That everybody in the 80s could just get away with whatever they want and that, I mean, I saw there was like a job of the Hut 20 minutes later. So I was like, you know, they're just, John, he's just doing whatever he wants and he thought of this overnight. - Yeah, this is the lesson I've tried to teach Craig over and over again is that just cocaine in the 80s. - I know. - All bets are off. - Well, and that movie's back then could be more niche. Like this movie is made for only boys between the age of 14 and 16 and people who saw that movie. Nowadays they would never do that. I mean, they don't even make SNL sketches about movies anymore because there's a lot of culture more. - So it's one thing if Hughes wants to make an homage to the road where I get it, a little tip of the cap. - This is a nine minute sequence. - It's the climax. - It comprises 10% of the whole movie. - Right. - It's an incredible investment in the road warrior. - It's a good time to make popcorn too. - Jesus, that's our guy. - We'll be like, yeah. - From Commando, it's awesome. - Yeah. - All right, thanks Craig. We'll take one more break and then we'll come back with the hottest take. All right, come back Kyle, what is your flex category? - Shit, you know what? My flex category was gonna be about the Jamie Lee Curtis unnecessary nudity award for Kim Malin. Beginning, we already talked about Kim Malin and the run that she went on. I also was gonna go, if this would be a porn title, and I was gonna make it a gay porn called Queered Science in which wide and gary make a guy and they just get after it and it's Queered Science. It works. So that's fine. - How would you spell the Queered? - Q-U-E-I-R-D. - Yeah. - It's science and I think, it might exist. I didn't even look, I didn't look. - I would vote not looking. - It sounds like a possible virus. The CR things Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford hottest take award. I think you can make a case. This is the best '80s movie theme song that actually has the title in the song. - Oh, I love this. - For the purposes of the song. So I can't, I had six. - What else you got? - And all of them have a case and Weird Science is one of them. St. Elmo's fire. - John Parker. - I can feel the fire burning. - It's a great one. - But it doesn't really work the plot into it. So, just keep that in mind. Footloose. - That's gotta be the goat, right? That's tough to beat. - Well, I'm gonna try to make the case for Weird Science. But Footloose, everybody's got Footloose in it. It ties into the plot, it's a good one. It's a good candidate. Purple rain. So purple rain is like, innately into the end of the movie, right? - It's a great list. - But I don't really know what the purple rain was compared to what I just watched in the movie. It's basically just like, he came up with this awesome song that Wendy and Lisa wrote for him. And then he's like, "Ah, purple rain." But it didn't really advance the plot. It's just basically him kicking ass with the song. Ghostbusters. - Ray Parker. as work. that does work the plot into it. Who are you going to call Ghostbusters? I just don't think it's a good song. And then the last one is we're going stealth against all odds. - Oh. - Which is, see R&I have circled it a couple of times for the rewatchables. I think we might be the only ones that like it. But it's got Phil Collins and it's got Jeff Bridges and Rachel Ward and Aaron Love and it's against the odds. So those would be my six. So basically in the finals that have footloose against weird science. - This is so great. I love that you and CR circling against all odds. Was there not a song called Proof of Life in that movie? They didn't do one. - No, they should have. Sit right there. The killers could have done it. Listen, I'm trying to think like the purple rain, the legacy for me is just Prince playing that at the Super Bowl half time in Miami and it's raining. Like I think of it more than the movie. Ray Parker Jr. is a full phenomenon. Like that song. - Pretty good. I did consider it. So here's my case for weird science. The Hughes clearly told Oingo Boingo. - Yes. - I'm making this movie. It's about these 15 year old kids that create basically like the perfect woman and she comes out of the computer and has sex with them. It's called Weird Science. Can you work some Frankenstein stuff? Can you have somebody say like, it's alive? - Yeah. - Can you really like, I'll show you. I'll screen the movie for you and then you guys can write it. It just has that vibe. So I think I would still pick it number one. Footloose, I feel like logons just made footloose. I don't know if they went to him and said, "Yo, here's the idea." - Yeah. - These kids dancing. - They're dancing and not allowed to. You're saying it was specifically curated just for this movie and the concept as opposed to just being a catchy thing. - I feel like logons did footloose. He wrote the song and then they're like, good song, we should name the movie Footloose. Like it was almost like they had the song and then the title came after. - Plus, this is clearly weird science. Can you write this? - Plus, logons was just banging out so many hits for different movies at the time. - Right, he had the wealth around a little bit. I think that is a really, really good take. You know what the biggest loser in it is though? Thomas Dolby, who two years later, did she blinded me with science? He was like, God damn it. I had the science song, right? - She was right there. He had to have been furious. What's your, how to stake? My how to stake Lisa sucks. That's my take and I'll tell you why. Right out of the fucking gates, she takes them to this terrible bar where they're totally uncomfortable at, stands by while Gary's coerced into drinking that's then let's Wyatt drink and drive home. She's constantly teasing them sexually, including buy an underwear just to turn them on. They don't want that fucking party. Wyatt says that a hundred times. I don't want this party. They're not my friends. No, you're going to have a party. She pulls a gun on Gary's dad, which Gary is really pissed off about. Then she makes Gary's dad permanently forget that his son exists. And then at the end of it, she's just like, I got to go. I just have to leave. Why? Why the fuck do you have to leave? And she just walks away. - You left out the biker gang. - Yeah, oh the fucking biker gang. And you left out she puts the grandparents in the closet. These poor people just wanted to see their grandson. - You're exactly right. And those girlfriends she got him, they're gone the next fucking day. They're not sticking around. - She turned Chet into a toad. - Yes, so I think Lisa like, is she that great? Like what exactly does she do for them? Cause there's a lot of shit that she does wrong. And Lisa sucks, I don't care. - Yeah, they should have been. - That's a pretty good one. By the way, I guess the counter would be she made them better people. - Yeah, for 10 minutes. And by the way, awful preachy that they decided to try to make another girl. Like why can't we decide? We can make you disappear too. She's trying to lecture them and condescend them. Like they made you, they can make another one. - I like her. - It's pretty good. - Casting what ifs, initially Kelly Emberg, a model who had been in sports illustrator was cast as Lisa left after two days for creative differences, was not able to find out anything on the internet's, but that she, all I know about Kelly Emberg, she was an SI model and had a kid with Rod Stewart in the 80s, but they didn't get married. And then she sued him for pal money. - Those are good nuggets. - Yeah. - Also auditioning for the part of Lisa and not getting it. Demi Moore. Let's go. - Too young, probably at that point. She's like 20, but isn't 20 good? Don't we want they're closer to Wyatt and Gary? Like I want someone close to them that they can sleep with. Like what I'm looking for here. I don't want the Mary Poppins. - That's fair. Well, the other one was Robin Wright, who would go on to become the most beautiful woman in the world in Princess Bride. So she's pretty young too. Both of them are soap opera actresses who were like 18, 19 range. So, yeah, so it works from a closer to the age, more realistic, but I'm not sure that's what he's wanted. - Robin Wright's coming off Santa Barbara. Just absolutely stay. Princess Bride's 87. - Will you be a different woman? - I was not on Santa Barbara. No, I was on days of her life. But I've been to Santa Barbara. - You never did, Santa Barbara. Like three week. - I think I was gone. - You got killed. - No, I think I was gone by the time I was in my soap phase. Maybe we'll be back. The other casting would have Anthony Michael Hall had a choice of doing National Lampoon's European vacation or this movie and he chose wisely chose word size. - This is the right move. Yeah, I don't like European that much. - Yeah. - That's that guy word. Is John Capelose of that guy? - Not for me, but I'm deep in a nerd in this. I don't think most people know John Capelose name. - Like Craig, he's a that guy. - Yeah, I mean, he's the custodian in the breakfast club. He's in 16 candles. - He's in the heat. - He wins. - He wins. I mean, it's either him or your guy. Your guy Gary's dad, Britt Leach, as Gary's dad. - He is a good that guy because I don't even know where I know him from. - Where is he from? - Is he a Terminator? - He's not. - No, I wish. - What's the beginning of Terminator? - No, Paxton's in the beginning of Terminator, but Britt Leach is not as far as I know is not. He's in, he has a scene in Father the Bride when George Banks crashes out as they say at the hot dogs. He's the grocery store manager. And Britt Leach is also in the great outdoors. Just a couple memorable roles. And he's just so good in this Britt Leach. - I have a scary bald biker guy with the ears. - Sure. - He's one of those guys. He's been a scary guy and then the lead biker guy of whatever that road where he gang was, was also one of the bad guys in Commando. - Yeah, he's been there very much. - He's like the number one guy with a chainmail. Like that's the same role, burning wells. - He'd been it. - I'm gonna take the knife and you bend it. You don't need the gun. I twist the knife. Come on, Bennett. Let off some steam. - That was years ago we did that. - Dianne Waiter's award. I have Gary's dad. I know it's not the right choice, but I love Gary's dad. - I love him once you love Gary's dad. - I love Gary's dad. - Who is this Gary character? What do you have for a Dianne? - Well, well, dad, he's a plumber and he's into plumbing and he plums, right? No, I mean, I have, I have, I have Chad Bill Paxton. He's only in three scenes. He disappears for an hour. - Oh yeah, Chad. - I think he's the best part of the movie. - I thought of Chad as like being an actor, but you're right, if he's only in three scenes, he's only a plumber for Dianne. - Three scenes. - You two do. Chad couldn't get laid in a morgue. Like just fucking awesome. Awesome. I say it all the time. - Maybe Gary's dad should just be a new category. - What would it be? - I don't know. Gary's dad, I don't know why I love this character so much. - Great. - Gary's dad award, recasting couch director city. So, I mean, Downey being the, being why it is clearly the answer. - I nailed it. Nailed it. - I'd like to test drive dumping Downey's buddy, played by Robert Russell. And like, where's Zabka? How is he down in this? Like Zabka just should have been in all this movies. It's four scenes. He just has to be in a mall scene. He has to be at the party. Like film two scenes in the bedroom. Like he could have, there's three days he could have just jumped in and filmed here. - I don't know where he was. - You couldn't be more right. And here's why. It's like the key master and the gatekeeper getting together. We need Williams, Zabka, bully to be bully and Anthony Michael Hall nerd. And that's what we need to get it. - We never got it. - It's like we never got Sugar Ray Leonard versus Aaron Pryor. I wanted that for the entire 80s. - We gotta have this. - Never had it. Half-fessor in research. Didn't have a lot here other than the production was kept closed because they wanted to keep the film's plot a secret for some reason. But then the, "Elimitial Smith" has given a couple of interviews since. And he said that there's a scene that Bill Paxton loved being around the filming. And just seems like the greatest guy. But in the party scene, apparently he dresses up in a sunglasses and a trench coat. And he's in the party scene. And it's Chet. - See? - But you don't realize that it's him. But it's Bill Paxton 'cause he just wanted to be around. - That's everybody associated with this movie is like, so Chet's the biggest asshole of all time. They're like Bill Paxton is the nicest person I've ever met in my life. - Yeah, everyone loves Bill Paxton. - And I just, you don't get him doing comedy much. It's like, it's here, it's true lies when he's hilarious. And then even in serious movies like Aliens, when he's just saying game over man, like that's so fucking funny. So when he does, it does a great. - Apex Mountain Anthony Micahalman, let's say yes. - It is. - This is like, right? This weird science breakfast club combo is right when it happened. Elon Mitchell Smith definitely yes. - Oh yeah. - Tell Little Brock also a yes. Woman in red than this. Paxton, no. Asshole older brothers in a comedy. I'm gonna say yes. I think Chet's like, Chet's as good as we did. He's competing against the home alone older brothers. there are like, there's a couple, but I still like Chet's the best. Buzz doesn't win because the home alone uncle Frank is worse than Buzz and he takes all his shine. But yeah, Chet is horrible. Shurmer high school probably breakfast club definitely John Hughes heat check time, heat check. He's making a movie about a guy's making a woman and they're like, yeah, sure do it. Whatever you want. Same year as breakfast club. I think it's breakfast club, though, which comes out after. Right? Breakfast club before February 85. This is August. Breakfast club came out before. So I think it's breakfast club. Either way, it's breakfast club. Although some people would say it's the late 80s when he writes home alone and that, but I don't even know. I mean, I've wrestled with this my whole life. Do you like breakfast club or Ferris better? Breakfast club. I've seen more times. Yeah. They're both pantheon for me, but breakfast clubs in all time are for me. For years and years of my life, I would say breakfast cause my favorite movie. I don't really any more, but I think it's just by a nose over Ferris. I love Ferris, though. It's one of, especially as my brain's going as I fit my my 50s here, but it's one of the only movies I can still like quote accurately. No, it's fun. It's really Larry Lester's buns taping them together. And you know what they do in that movie. It's the same thing they do here. She always makes you eat your vegetables. There's always going to be some sort of sentimental scene at the end. It's not just horny high school stuff, but Andrew Clark getting high and crying about his dad. This is Gary and Wyatt being like, I want you to like me for me. That's why that's not really my car. Like Hughes will always give you a little bit of green beans on the side. Toads. Apex mountain for people being turned into a toad in the CS. So is he a toad or is he a diastria? Like what? Yeah. What is that creature? Is he a pile of feces? Is he a frog? Is he? A feces toad that eats flies. Yes. Greasy pork sandwiches on dirty ashtray. Yes. How about this 80s high school party scenes? I got it on my list. And I'll say as bold as I can, this is the one for me. This is number one high school party movie in any decade. It's just. And the reason is why I think the fucking house is amazing. Wyatt has this huge mansion with like a lake outside and a gate. She uses magic. So like there's all this food and like the lighting is perfect. There's a full bar worth bartenders and scotch and stuff and like the music's cool. And there's this is the party I wanted to go to when I was a little kid. That's fair. 80s fantasy women know. Unless they're created from a from a computer. Sure. And then 80s houses coming back together right before the parents got home. I still think it's risky business. Definitely. Well, the auction. Unloading Guido the killer Pimp, pulling the carrying the egg, bringing the stuff back. It's so good. Great stuff. Crews or hanks. Crews is Wyatt like early 80s crews like outsiders crews. I was thinking of like of losing it crews. Losing a cruise. That's why it. And by the way, when's the losing at pod bill? When's that coming? Haven't shelly long? I didn't. I didn't. I think crews bought that out. I don't think it exists. It's like how Johnny Depp bought a private resort with him in a who's the guy Rob Moro. Yeah, you can't find that movie that movie's gone. You can't find soul man. You can't find losing it. And I remember I read like a rundown once the crew's deal with entertainment weekly where he gave like one take on all his movies that he did. And they're like losing it. He's like, yeah, that really made me learn about what projects to pick. And that was like his only comment. I don't think he's proud. It's not good. And then he went and bought every copy. That was good. Score, it's easier Spielberg. Probably Spielberg. I think the horny teenage thing would have resonated with him in some way. I think Spielberg for sure. I just think like how cool was it dude that Hughes and Spielberg just holding down the 80s on totally different corners, totally different types of movies, never worked together, never crossed over. Like the closest they got was that Chris Columbus was a Spielberg protege and he ended up directing home alone. If they could have movie swapped, I would have Spielberg direct weird science and I would have Hughes direct the goonies which he produced, but like the kids and the fun that they get into like that would be the perfect swap. I'd like to use goonies. It's a good idea for a category movie swap. Yeah. Movie swap. It's a mark down and down. What role would Feeble, Phillip Seymour Hoffman have played clearly, Chet? How'd you like a greasy pork sandwich? You would have played him as like a son of a woman that whatever his character was in that. With the jacket. Yeah. All right, picking nits. Sure. We already mentioned the boys are getting the sex out of the way as soon as. She's created. That's happening. This movie should just been rated R. Yeah. And what would they do with it? This is one of the things we figured out 20 years later in the super bad era. It's like why are we trying to make PG movies thinking kids aren't just going to go by ticket to another movie and then sneak into this one. Why aren't we building buzz? Why aren't we pushing the envelope? We for some reason none of that stuff really clicked until about 2004. Well. It's a shame. PG 13 brand new brand new at this point on the heels of a gremlins here being vacation. Yeah. All awesome boobs. Temple in doom. So they're like, you know, we can give them a little action. We can kind of show a nude woman say a few bad words, but we can sell more money by getting younger people in as well. It's always been like that purgatory rating. You know, that like the new predator movie is out and people are like, holy shit, it's PG 13, but it's really good still. It must be amazing if they can be that good with that in our rating. It's just fascinating. Yeah. Any other picket nets, I mean, it's hard to pick a lot of nets with this movie because it's so ridiculous. I just like, okay, I grew up in the Chicago suburb. I basically grew up in Shermer in the mid 80s. The fact that these two kids are living in the North suburbs of Chicago, Illinois of 1985, and they're not having every single conversation about the 85 bears is such bullshit is the biggest thing in the world. Never mind Lisa, they'd be making Wilbur Marshall and Otis Wilson and playing the Super Bowl shuffled. It would be refrigerator Perry rapping. There was everywhere. It drives me nuts that there's no 85 bears in this. They just miss. Wow, that's great. Well, you also have the 84 cubs, too. It would have been the kind of cup that Leon Durham, you would add a Jim McMahon, Walter Payton, something Rick Sutcliffe for sure is up there. No wonder these guys were fucking nerds put on a lot of Peyton Jersey guys. He's right there. He's been there for years. He's generation sucks. What are you guys doing? I don't know. By the way, Jordan showed up that year too. You're right. So it's everything's on the balls, but throw out on Jordan Jersey, be ahead of the curve. Jordan shows up not until home alone later in Kevin McAllister's Christmas decorations. They finally get back to it. The only other nitpicking I had is what is going on in that bathroom bathroom scene at the end? Like why it is taking a shit while Gary's in the room. That doesn't make no one's ever done that. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's beyond a picking name. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, like they share, they share, they sleep together every night, they're like taking shit together. They're in the shower together. Can you imagine being in the same bathroom as your high school friend while he takes a dump right next to you? It doesn't. It would never happen. It doesn't make sense. And why did they then like let the two girls in to use the bathroom and then they just get into the shower? It makes me uncomfortable because I know it stinks in that bathroom. Yeah. So why are there two twin beds in that room? Great call. I thought the same thing. Great call. It's set up for sleepover. Two head twin beds. Yes. Well, maybe the only thing I was thinking was maybe chat slept with Wyatt for a while before he got older. They just never got rid of the twin beds. And at the end of the movie Gary and Deb are in one of the twin beds together and like that's that's pretty tight. It is. I had this later for Illinois and an unanswered question about Illinois, but I'll do it here. Because we had all these different houses and movies filmed in there in the 80s. And all the houses are like really nice and huge. And they're in these great suburbs, you know, good school system apparently you can call the janitors or janitors. But this house you mentioned earlier was like a really nice, almost like a mansion. So is the home alone house. So was the risky business house. Ferris had an awesome house. Cameron had an awesome house with it. Was Illinois just like the best mid 80s Illinois, the best red fan you could have done? Yeah. It's pretty good. Like, were these houses expensive? Did just everybody have a nice house, I didn't understand it. I think it's a really nice place to live and there's some neighborhoods that aren't. But listen, like I, I know where Cameron fries house is. We used to drive by it. It's in, it's in Lake Forest. We used, and the crazy thing is Bill is that like the Bears facility is up there and the Bulls practice facility. So like Michael Jordan's house is like five minutes away from where Gary and Wyatt's house is. They're all up there in the North suburbs. Great place to live, man. We should have given the Amanda Dobbins real estate category to the house because I just thought it was an awesome house. Sequel prequel prestige TV, all black cast are untouchable. All black cast would have been interesting. Sure. Maybe like a 1994 range, all black cast, you get like Alfonso Ribeiros, one of the nerds. I don't know, Halle Berry is the weird science, maybe it's like 92, 91 range. Okay. It's like a black movie renaissance just happening in general, maybe the fuck it, let's make black word science. Let's go. I can flush that out for you. And when they make Lisa, the first thing Lisa does is take him to a bar of all white people listening. Right. And they're listening to like my dad. She takes a country club. Yeah. Yeah. And there's just like, yeah, here drink this martini and they drink it and it's all switched like that. That's the way it works. She takes him to the Shermer country club because it's martini night. Is this movie better? jack-and-stiny trail, Bad Dog, Russo, Doris, Burke, Buffalo, Bill, Sam Jackson. No, Byron Mayo, Tony Roma, Chris Collins or Nathaniel playing view long legs are woofer Bremley in the firm. What do you have? >> All right. >> You're going to do it, aren't you? >> I got to stretch out. So our guy this week, Gus Johnson's been in the news. He's been in the conversation for his call at the end of the Indiana game. I'm team Gus for life. And I think you start the movie with Gus. And I don't go, and I don't go boy and go. You got Wyatt and Gary sitting there and they're checking out the gym and Gus comes on the call. White and Gary, young fellas. Pitch intense in the gym, watching Girls Gymnastics. Here comes Tony Stark. >> [LAUGH] >> They're doubted as I go with the fruit of the loom. >> There we go. >> Wow. >> You actually lost audio in the Zoom, because you went to- >> I went to bed. >> Zoom, think how you're recording from your end. >> Wow. >> I'm at work right now too, sorry for everybody. They might actually think it's Gus Johnson, but it's just me. >> It's like Gus Johnson's in the closet. What's going on there? >> What do you got? >> I was thinking it could be funny if Buffalo Bill was in this movie, because you know, it's Middle America. >> Let's go. >> And there, somebody comes to see what happened to Lisa a couple days later. >> Sure. >> And she's in his basement. >> You know, with Precious, he's already kidnapped her, and they're like, have you seen Lisa? Just really hot, British lady. She'd be British lady. She wearing a fall and a cutoff t-shirt. I don't know, just put them in. Bonus content for the DVD. >> Yeah. >> It puts the woman on the computer, like it's told her, it gets the hose again. >> Right. >> That's one Oscar who gets it. Yeah, tough one. Maybe you ain't go boy and go. >> You would refuse to accept it. >> He would refuse to accept it. >> I get this movie never happened. Probably an answer for questions. Did Gary ever have sex with Lisa? >> Did Gary? No. We don't even see him kissing her. >> Nothing. He get drunk and passed out. It was only a one night thing because the second night, this is all one weekend, first night pass out. Second night party. So he's out. >> Nothing. >> And then did she have sex with Wyatt? >> No. >> She wakes up the next day and he's wearing her panties. So that insinuates that something happened. >> She makes out with them and says, what do you want basically? And he's like, girls gymnastics. It's all going exactly how you would want. She's like, what fantasy do you want me to do? And then the next morning, she says, I was in the middle of my gymnastics routine and you passed out. You fell asleep. So ostensibly, like, she was going to have sex with them. >> He would have to have been roofied. >> She's not passing out. >> Yeah. >> He's never had sex before. He's not passing out. >> He might be passing out because there's no blood in his head, but he's not falling asleep. I don't think it ever happened. And I put that line into like, but again, the smoking gun for me is she is at a lingerie store buying underwear specifically that they want to look hot and it just doesn't make sense. >> And the next morning, at least for an hour Wyatt's going, what happened last night? I passed out. Did you have sex with her? What happened? Would you do? >> Yes. >> And they're just recapping every single moment of it and Gary's just going, I can't believe I passed out. I got, wait, before we do anything today, I got to- >> Yeah, let's go take care of it. >> No, now they're just going to amall. What were Lisa's, I guess this is the Zawantnai award, but what were Lisa's next few days like in Shermer as the new British gym teacher with no credentials? I don't even know if she has a driver's license. Where does she live? Did she get an apartment? Did she just magically make an apartment? Did she move into another house? Like, what was going on there? She can make all that stuff, I think, with magic. I wonder, like, what is her first gym class? Are we doing the pegboard? Are we climbing the rope? Are we doing the presentation class style? >> I don't know. >> Kickball, but she's making the balls go in crazy directions. Is she dating? Does she want to date? Is she interested in meeting somebody? Michael Jordan, and she's like, who's this guy in the balls? I think that's just going to be my new boyfriend. >> No, I don't know. We know that she likes some very, very, very unathletic, you know that. >> Right. >> I mean, I'm talking Gary Wyden's and Galik, both life. >> Did Lisa eat and go to the bathroom? >> Yeah, 'cause we see her drinking. >> Was she fully human? >> Yeah, I think we see her drinking and I love that we're asking this. This is reminding me of what- >> She's supposed to be cigarette at one point. >> On the Star Wars pod, we spent 10 minutes being like, so just Chewbacca take a shit and I was like, wait in, I'm like, this is why I listen. >> Chewbacca have an asshole, like what's his deal? >> Yeah, he's like a dog. And yes, Lisa does, and she takes shit. And she might have even peed when she's in the shower with Wyatt and Gary. Sure, let her rip. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Wanna make sure. Did you have an answer post 'cause I'm gonna move on? >> Just quickly, is this movie like spinning clock at the end? It's so short that they just, for some reason, inexplicably, be put in a chase scene with police that doesn't add up to anything. And they go in front of the train like it's Duke's of Hazard for no reason. I feel like they're like, we need three more minutes to make it a movie. It just does nothing. >> It's huge. It's like, we got to get to 88 minutes. That's what I told the studio for our chase scene. What piece of memorability would you want or not want from this movie? I just want to point out the jacket worn by Kelly LeBrock in this film was sold to a pawn shop in Beverly Hills for $25,000. >> Nice jacket, the sleepless one. Yeah. I would get that if I would give it to my wife, but she's not wearing that. I would think of another family member though. My souvenir bill will be Wyatt's incredible full-ass treasure chest of playboys. >> And with the trunk itself. >> With the trunk itself. Yeah, under the tree from my son when he's the right age on Christmas. Have fun, son. Go with God. That'd be it. So I wanted, when they go up the stairs, in Wyatt's house a couple times, there's a family portrait of Wyatt and his family. And then later at the party, they all have their mustaches drawn on them. And I just think having that portrait would be hilarious. >> It's awesome. People always say they want that the Tony soprano portrait, when he's with Pyomai, with like Paulie takes. No, you're like, no, this is Wyatt's family from the home alone, the real, or from weird science, the real family. It's great portrait. >> Well, there was the Dirk Doug Diggler portrait, was available a couple times. And I went on the auction site because I was like, hey, this isn't, and it went for like some crazy price, like crazy, like six figures. It's the worst painting of all time too. It's horrible. >> It has Jesse St. James in the bottom right as like she actually painted it. And I wanted it for the studio, but it just didn't work out. The Coach Finstack wore a best life lesson. We could deal with shame. Death is a much bigger issue. >> It's a heavy line, yeah. >> Just put that in your high school yearbook, ready to go. What's your double feature? >> Oh, I'm Anakin. I'm doing Andrew McCarthy and Kim Contrail. Nothing's gonna stop us now. A magical woman comes out of nowhere. You got Hollywood. You got the guy from Police Academy. And Bill, if the painting's too expensive for the studio, you should see if they have those D D drapes that they close that are embroidered with duct tape. That's probably way cheaper. >> I'll look at that. I'll search for that later. My double feature is Breakfast Club for the same reason my who won the movie pick is Anthony Michael Hall. I think I just think it's an Anthony Michael Hall double feature. We're like, this guy should have, like this guy should have at least been how we talk about Jonah Hill now. >> Yeah. He's popping in all these different awesome movies and just having a bigger run. And he became a really good character actor later in his career. But I just feel like it's just too bad, but this is the 80s. Like, weird shit happened. And I know he had some issues. But it's too bad. >> He really carries Inland Mitchell Smith in this movie too. I feel like he's Jamar Chase and Mitchell Smith is like Jake Brownian. He's just carrying. Give me the ball, dude, just give me the ball anyway possible. >> Who do you have for who on the movie? >> I had a LeBrock written down. I think Anthony Michael has been great in other stuff. She's just sensational. If she doesn't work, the movie is terrible. And I think it's really cool that she didn't do a movie for another five years. She just seemed like a cool lady. She refers to hard to kill that movie if you ask her what she refers to, but it's hard to watch. Like, she's self-deprecating. She's cool. I never, not hard to watch for us. >> I don't know, every time. >> I watch it tonight. >> All right, Craig, you've intentionally held off your take. I can't wait. What do you got? >> Man, we throw this movie in the vault with the movies that need to be studied and revisited every decade. I think it's in the running, I think it's in the running for the most 80s movie ever. Obviously, you guys can make that call better than me. But man, the clothing, the hair, just prime 80s, the cheesy effects, they're close up facial reactions. When they see Kelly LeBrock for the first time, they do the head wiggle with the sound effect, which is so 80s. There's a 10-minute offensive scene. You got a mall scene, road war, your Oingo Bungo, Anthony Michael Hall himself. I will say, when I went into this movie, I intentionally don't watch trailers. I don't look up anything about the movie. Watch it. I, so I didn't know it was PG-13, assumed it was R, was kind of expecting Kelly LeBrock naked in like the first 10 minutes. Yeah, yeah. Like the shower scene, I was like, here we go. And then they cut off at the legs. So I was slightly disappointed there. And it kind of like changed my calculus of what the movie was 'cause it's John Hughes. But I thought LeBrock crushed it. I thought our accent also worked. I think this movie is like, I don't know, five of the most inexplicable scenes of the '80s. Yeah, like Anthony Michael Hall talking like Richard Pryor. Yeah, yeah. Everything is completely insane, but also very wholesome. Like they don't know what to do with Lisa, but stare at her. I don't know why the one quibble I have, why do they make her a smart designstein? Why would you want to do that? You wouldn't crack. No, like I know that sounds bad, but like you're 15 years old. Like you don't want it to be that smart. Right. Why Einstein? Smartest person in the world makes no sense. I think they really had live in a lot of that when they were making the perfect woman. I think they probably would have done some do overs. This movie's, that did it again. This movie's insane. This movie's just out of control, '80s. Everything about it. It's so goofy to me, but I have to remind myself that like the scarcity of male fantasy content that was available. But Craig, you must have been like, holy shit. When I'm through all but five minutes of this movie, and I think I've seen it all. And then when Chet turns into the piece of shit frog, what? The movie was like normal kooky eighties until the road warrior people showed up. And then Chet turned into a job of the hot. Yeah, all right. I officially don't know what the fuck's going on. I don't think he was that either because he's, they're just trying to, he's trying to finish it as fast as possible because this was how he was allowed to make the breakfast club a few hours. So he's just trying to get through this because he wants to make pretty in pink. Yeah. Well, I don't know why it wasn't LeBrock a bigger start. What happened there? She went away. She met our guy, Saga. I can't believe she's with Saga. I don't know if that makes me think better of Saga, or worse of LeBrock. Craig, if we could rewind this pod, the part where you had a natural reaction to Kelly LeBrock, we made her Steven Saga was my favorite moment. Unbelievable. You were shot, bro. I'm in shot. You're Kyle. You being like, she's so cool. She's so self aware. Yeah. Yeah. How is she? I don't know. I don't know. They survived when he had the, uh, the no intimacy coordinator scene. What was that above the law? That was a hard to kill. Hard to kill. Hard to kill. Yeah. No. It was, it wasn't hard to kill. Hard to kill is the one she's in with LeBrock. Yeah. Yeah, but it was that, that was the other Steven Saga movie when his, when his wife gets shot to death. Right. Was that the same movie? Before his wife is shot to death, he takes liberties with his, his wife's upper body that I've not seen in movies. That's right. Yeah. You're not supposed to do that. That's the same movie. Yeah. Yeah. And that's how he went into the coma. Unbelievable. Can you imagine the red carpet premiere with that? Nope. She's like, I didn't realize you went like this crazy. Anyway. All right. So Craig, you enjoyed it. Yeah. Of course. Like it's, it's 88 minutes. It's remarkable how many memorable moments there are in 90 minutes. Yeah. Like so many things happen. There are so many scenes that, that just a meat will stick in your brain forever. It's an insane movie. I can't, the eighties are just crazy. Yeah. I heard. Right. Feeding, feeding images and input into a computer to make the perfect specimen. Bill, is it true that that's how Robert Kraft made Drake May. I heard that that's the rumor going around the NFL. A little bit of Josh Allen, a little bit of, yeah. We love. Drake May is a hero and new England right now, he's even as his, his wife is doing cooking stuff. Do you see all the Pats fans? Oh, yeah. They, they call her the first lady. It's just great. It worked out awesome. I think for you, I think it's Mr. Kraft is there with the supercomputer. He's got pictures of Brady and Drew Bledso and Doug Flutey and little Brian Hoyer's brain. And like, he just puts them all in and it came out Drake May. It's a beautiful thing. Jason Tato, me through in there. Yeah. Yeah. And they picked a good name. Drake made it and picked Lisa. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thanks to Kyle Brandt. A pleasure, as always. Thanks for pushing to do this. Thanks to Craig Horbeck. Thanks to Gahau. We'll be back next week with probably not one from the eighties next week, which we'll try to get a little more modern, but good to see you guys. Thanks. [MUSIC]