Week 9 Start Sit Advice (Part 2) | Sneaky Starts & Players to BENCH (11/6 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Whatever's holding you back, hymns has a real plan for it. Be confident, be hymn. I think he was the highest score. I think he outskored Florence. Yeah, depending on your league scoring. Welcome to the show everybody. It is Friday, happy Friday. It's November 6th. And this is fantasy football today presented by hymns. Whatever's holding you back hymns has a real plan for it. Derrick Henry's holding you back. Zae Flowers holding you back. Hopefully, better times are ahead. I'm Adam Azer with Dave Richard. Jamie Eisenberg will be joining us shortly. 33 to 10 Jacksonville over Baltimore. Pretty bad game, but honestly, exactly what we expected. Is it because a lot of people started Zae Flowers and Derrick Henry, and I don't think they were expecting this. A lot of people started Trevor Lawrence and Basel Tune, and I don't think they expected this. A lot of people started Cam Little in the Jaguars DST. Those people got what they expected. By the way, I think Justice Hill and in full PPR had more points than our boy Cam Little. Yeah, just an ugly game. Joe Fignano really forced the Ravens into like a massive short circuited offense. They get the cake that says at least you tried, but it's really just you got three quarters of Jacksonville doing what they do and Baltimore just not being able to do anything safe for one big play at the end by Justice Hill. And this is kind of like the danger that we face and we will continue to face when we've got matchups where we know one team is on the rise. They look good in the other team is just really in a bad spot. And Baltimore isn't necessarily like one of those left for dead teams. They were just in a really terrible spot with their quarterback situation on Thursday. I think that we will continue to see games where we will start good players on good teams, but the game script goes so lopsided that you end up with only 15 points from your quarter back. 10 points from your running back because they don't have to do much. The team only cares about winning. They don't care about getting guys touches and putting fantasy points up for people. They just want to get out of there with a win. That's exactly what Jacksonville did. You're going to continue to see that is the season rolls on, especially from the teams that have the playoffs in mind. Well, you know, basal toot and look if you started him you got super lucky with him getting a or sure a goal line touchdown he didn't really play that much I think is obvious they were limiting his snaps and you saw that maybe at the end of the game the jaguars have the most 20 point wins of any team in the NFL since the start of last season so they just keep blowing teams out. And they, you know, it's not great for their game script, but obviously, you know, if you feel if you feel good about the game script, you can feel good about the offense Trevor Lawrence, basal toot and parker Washington and maybe even Brent and strange. I point out that Jacobi Myers has his target share when Trevor Lawrence has been on the field has been 21.4% or higher three straight games. So he's 71% rostered. You know, look, they're going to be weeks where he doesn't do much and Brent and strange does, but he's not the worst option. He was only started in 21% of these Jamie. What's your confidence level in Henry and flowers going forward here and just in case anyone is keeping score at home. Devante Smith 17 point three points per game. Z flowers 15 point nine. Wow. I mean, he's got ruined. Unfortunately, it sucks. This is the dumbest bet of all time now. It's not the dumbest bet of all time. I mean, Ethan, I bet Marvin Harrison, junior versus Jerry Judy last year. That was right up there with one of the dumbest bets of all time. My confidence level is higher starting Tuesday. You know, once the trade is completed, I'm hopeful that it's going to be completed. You know, there's still some compensation situation scenarios. They have to work out. But look, Jacobi Brissette is a volume based quarterback. And that should help say flowers down. That doesn't mean he's going to be a volume based quarterback with Declan Doyle, but clearly this is a team that doesn't have the same type of dominant defense that it had for the majority of the harbor era. That clearly is going to have some scenarios where they're chasing points, which, you know, for flowers and maybe even, you know, one of Jacobi Lane, Rashad Bateman, maybe Mark Andrews, if you can catch up all again. You know, those guys could benefit from it. I think in the case of Henry, you kind of know what you're getting that they obviously tried to make him the focal point of the offense, which was, you know, good if you're just looking at it from the standpoint of, hey, we knew what we were dealing with. He was going to get opportunities. They just got nowhere near the end, end zone. And so there were no touchdown scenarios for him. I think just, you know, with what you'd like to see for Henry is at least two or three catches, like, you know, just something to help offset the fact that everyone knows that they're trying to run the ball. Everyone knows that they're playing the Wildcat. Everyone knows that it's, you know, the Derek Henry show. So I traded Henry last night prior to the game for Chase Brown. I feel pretty good about that. Oh, nice. You know, look, you know, you saw the touches his, the prop, the line was set at 17 and a half. So he got 17 carries. I think with a better offensive environment, if he's getting 17 carries will typically be better. So I wouldn't necessarily hit the panic button yet, but it's obviously your confidence has to be lower. You're going to have some questions about, you know, comparing him to, to, to clearly the RB two is he's no longer in the RB one conversation. I want to point out a couple of things. Number one about this game wins the last time either of you gentlemen saw a game where a team did not get inside their opponents 30 yard line. I mean, I can remember just vague. I feel like there was a Raiders game last year, something where they didn't cross midfield or they cross midfield once or something. But no, I can't specifically remember that. Right. That part sucks. Here's the other thing. If I told you before the game that the Ravens were going to have there, they were going to be trailing. And therefore a pass heavy game script in theory. And Zay flowers was going to have a 33% target share and get three carries. Would you have started them? I guess. Yeah. Yeah. And which is what everybody did. That's what he had. He just absolutely stunk with it because the Ravens stunk. It'll be better with the Kobe. Well, they have the chargers next and then Caroline after that. You can you can buy low on on Zay flowers. If you buy low on Henry to exact our line against him, be great for him. Yeah. All right. I mean, maybe. But the guy who averaged 3.4 yards per carry against the Browns four weeks ago, he's averaged 3.4 yards per carry or worse in six of his last eight games or five of his last seven games. And the thing he's been written off before people are like, oh, he's done. So I'm not going to do it. But I don't I don't think he's done, but they can't run the ball. I mean, I don't know if that's a Lamar Jackson thing or what. But well, sure. That's part of it. Yeah. For sure. You draft a Derek Henry with the idea of this being a Lamar Jackson led offense. And now they're going to their fourth quarterback, you know, is essentially when they get Jacobi reset. So it's it's not what you paid for. It's it's certainly not going to get the return on investment. There will be a game or two where he's still going to have good production. If not great production. You just have to hope that preset comes in and can do the type of things that, you know, we we like from him, which is a lot of volume. I know. Yeah. All right. Well, that's it for Thursday night football. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's what that game made me do yesterday. All right. Now we've got let's do our news and notes real quick. Okay. Still no, still not expecting to Sean Watson, Joe Milton, starting for Philadelphia, Drew Locke said his elbow feels good. So that's encouraging scored about 27 points against the Cardinals last time around. And Carson wins is going to start for Minnesota. Who's the best Dave? Who's the best replacement quarterback this week? I would say went of the teams that you just mentioned. Wentz would be first or me, Drew Locke would be second. I had Fignano, and I was wrong. Christian McCaffrey practice, which is cool. How's his name in? Oh, negative, negative point three. Fignano's been negative points, both of his games, so sad. Josh, by the way, you said Derek Henry, his touches total was 17 and a half. And he had 17 carries. Yeah, also had a pass. Does that count? No, no, shame. I think one Barclay practice. Oh, Mari and Hampton is apparently going to get more touches. Don't drop that player just yet. I'm not sure anymore. But here comes the Texans defense for him. So hopefully he doesn't screw it up. Montgomery out. We knew that. Travy on Henderson. I've been following this. You might be dealing with some, you know, I guess mental health issues right now. And that's why he hasn't been practicing. He might get traded. Kind of an interesting situation there with Travy on Henderson. You might want to hang on to him during the, you know, before the trade down. deadline, which is Tuesday. Cam Skatibum is practice, and our PSA to you right now is that you need to pick up Devin Singletary. He is 48% rostered. He is one of the, you could argue one of the most under rostered players. Now, I'll give you some stats on him later. It's not like he's lighting it up other than one run this year, and over the last two years, but could be just like a 15 to 20 touch running back against the Eagles this week. And yeah, another important one, CJ Donaldson for the Saints, he practiced on Wednesday. He mispracticed on Thursday, and it could be a big boost for Camera as it was two weeks ago, at least in terms of his routes. Just keep in mind they brought back somebody that was on the roster previously. That's the may, right? Yeah. Kamenangai mispractice, and Brian Robinson Jr. is going to be out this week. Still no AJ Brown. A mecca Buka practiced in full. Are you guys ranking a Buka yet? But number two, I'd receiver, and you got to at least accept the floor that he's had in three games with Baker Mayfield. It's ten PPR points, but that's not the worst thing for a floor. And then his target's head, nine plus targets in his two games before he got hurt. That was with Jalen Daniels at QB, not Baker Mayfield. And Call me crazy. I think the bucks are going to have to throw more than 11 times against Chicago this week. And that would obviously help a mecca Buka out. So maybe closer to a low end number two wide receiver, but someone who certainly could be in lineups. I hope they have to throw more. I think it's just one of those scenarios where they're going to come out and try and run as much as they can. And the one thing we haven't seen yet, and I don't think it's an issue, is we haven't seen how good, and I don't know how healthy Baker Mayfield's thumb is, because it has been put to the test. So if they're chasing points to whatever degree, and it's the 30-year-tem game for him, is he going to hold up and throw the ball fine? You know, the fact that he's barely thrown over the last two weeks kind of makes me feel better about him, because he hasn't had to test that thumb, and it's almost giving him a little bit more rest. Oh, you agree. Yeah. I mean, he's had plenty of time to heal. And he's been practicing too. You just wonder like, you know, what are the, what are the throws going to look like? Are you guys ranking Jordan Tyson yet? No. No. Okay. Well, we'll keep an eye on that. But he said he's going to play, DJ Moore was wearing a non-contact jersey for his shoulder, but his knee is apparently fine. So we're assuming DJ Moore is going to play Monday night at Minnesota, Abouca or DJ Moore? More. I'll go back and forth on that one. I think Moore's a little bit safer, even then, tougher matchup. Still not expecting Garrett Wilson at this point, or Don Tavi and Wix or Devante Smith. Devante Smith, you can just go ahead and sit out the rest of the season. I think I'd be okay with that. Mack Holland's limited. But I thought it's the, it's the playoff for us. Tybreaker. Oh, right. This is the, you know, what you, what you need, what you need is for Devante Smith, just, just stay ahead of him. I saw you. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Right. You know, like huge games. You just need a little, you know, it's like, it's like a guillotine leagues. You just need to get to the end. But if he does have like three or four more huge games in Zay flowers only as one, you might win this thing. And that means the kids win, St. Jude win. I know. That's what we want. And then we get to see Heath with the beer. I think knowing Heath, he would give money to St. Jude no matter what, I think so too. So let me ask you this. If you're looking for replacement wide receivers based on injuries, we're looking at maybe New England, we're looking at San Francisco, um, sure if there's any other Philadelphia. McKay Lemons still, you know, pretty roster already. But you're talking about desperation guys. Yeah. Like the Mac Hollins, the Jordan Watkins, the whoever's of the world. And we do a whole show on this yesterday afternoon. Just give me a damn name. The 40, the 49ers are so tough to figure out right now because we don't know who's going to play. You really don't know who's going to play. You could stash to Marcus Robinson. You can, but he may not play. You know, so you have, you have Robinson, you have Kirk, you have Cooks, you have Watkins, like there's just so many different directions they can go. You have the New England scenario. I think he played it out the other day about, uh, with Hollins in with Brown and Chism Douglas, Douglas is too roster ready, but you know, just the desperation guys there. I think like if I, if I'm looking for the, the one guy that's still widely available and the last time we saw him, he was very good as Malci fields. Mm hmm. Yeah. He's widely available. I don't know that I want to go that route, but, um, I think I'd rather go like Mac Hollins or if he's out after Chism, um, hmm. The move you can make is see if one of these names is available, because they're all out there in about 50% of CBS leagues. Adny Mitchell, Ryan Fanoi, Devon Vale, Malik Washington, Antonio Williams, pretty much any of those five. Mitchell's probably my favorite of those five is who I'd go and grab. But if you've got an IR spot, grab to Marcus Robinson as well. Yeah. All right. And Kobe Parkinson's still missing practice, Terrence Ferguson is practicing. We'll see if he's able to play. It might be a little quick for him. Hunter Henry mispractice again, um, and then we've got some offensive line injuries. We could the sea hawks as much as I'm encouraged by Drew Lock, you know, having this opportunity. They could be without their left tackle and their left guard. Charles Cross and Quentin Nelson are both hurt. And on defense Leonard Williams and Uchena Novosu, two very important players in their front seven are hurt this week, uh, Novosu practice Wednesday didn't practice on Thursday. And that's pretty much all I'm going to do in terms of the defensive injuries. Well, there's a big one here. Malik Muhammad has been limited for the Bears. He's there starting corner back. He didn't play last week. His replacement got torched on that long touchdown by JSN. If they can get him back, they've been really good against number one wide receivers. That's a fun game to preview anything else. Or should we go to break? Kelly, thanks. Yeah. The line's injuries are big. Kelvin Banks being back for the Saints. That's their left tackle. That could be really good for them. They were rolling when that line was healthy earlier this year. Cool. We'll do one question for each game when we come back on fantasy football today. This is one of my favorite times of the year. It's the fall. We've got football. That's great. But there's another fall staple that you need to try. And that would be a creamy crispy apple cider refresher and make it even better by mixing in a caramel apple five hour energy shot. You're going to give it more of that crevable flavor. The creamy crispy apple cider refresher. It's becoming a go-to treat this season and it's nostalgic. It's bold and it's got a modern twist. So what are we doing here? Well, you pour a glass of cider over ice. You top it with some cold foam, a dash of cinnamon. And then again, throw in that single caramel apple five hour energy shot. So much flavor. It's like a caramel apple and we all love those. You have got to try this and the best part is it only takes seconds to whip together right on your kitchen counter, make your own tasty fall refresher at home. Get caramel apple five hour energy shots online at fivehourenergy.com or on Amazon and in stores now. Straight up is the Friday podcast that takes the week's most talked about stories seriously. This is what the internet does best. It turns speculation into entertainment. But not too seriously. This is all fake. Shut up. You got a double cancel, bro. Three weeks. Join me. Glad to meet you. And me, Kelly O'Grady. As we ditch the anchor desk after hours to break down the story. The internet just can't stop talking about with a cocktail to match the mood. What do we call the show straight up available wherever you get your podcast. One question for each game. Dave will start with you. Denver's at Carolina. Yeah. Rank the two Panthers wide receivers versus Jonah Coleman. Those three players go. I think I'm going to put Coleman first. I am nervous about this match up for Carolina's offense. Basically, anybody not named Chubah Hubbard. So Coleman won Tederoa two, Coker three. Don't really love those wide outs, though. Oh, so Tederoa over Coker because I feel like you know, you know where I'm going with this. I don't want to go to the outside guy. I don't, I don't either. But Carolina has used McMillan in the slot at times this year, usually what they do and what Bryce does when he's pressured is they scheme up Gimme plays to Tederoa and McMillan. Yeah. I don't know if that's necessarily something that's going to lead to a huge play. I wouldn't count on that. It's part of the reason why McMillan's like a borderline number two fantasy receiver for me. But this Denver defense is just great all the way around in Carolina's got so many problems on offense. All right. Well, the Broncos have actually given up 76 yards or a touchdown to eight wide receivers in eight games, which is a little surprising. But I got some pretty ugly stats when we get to that game about the Panther's offense. Tampa Bay is at Chicago, Jamie, Romo Duneze or a Mecca Bucca, I think I know your answer here. A Bucca, but I do like the way of Duneze has played the last two games and hopefully he can get in the end zone because that's been really the thing that's missing from him. But he's certainly stepped up after some struggles with Caleb Williams in the first three games that they played together. Okay. Another one that we're going to have to do a deep dive on this game, the Bucks defense versus the Bears, you know, every matchup in that game is intriguing. Dave, we'll go to you Cincinnati at Atlanta, starter sit Kyle pits. One of my favorite like remarkable stats is that the the Bengals give up the eighth most fantasy points to tight ends and they haven't allowed a touchdown to a tight end yet. That's crazy. Starter sit Kyle pits. This could be the week because we've seen Kyle pits evolve into not just a short area target, but also a red zone target for Michael Penex, throw out what you saw last. They didn't see that one coming not at all. Oh, yeah. Hold on. (laughs) Okay, starters in Kyle Fitz. To summarize throughout last week, I think Panics can bounce back. Cincinnati hasn't been great against Titans. In general, I like his role in the offense. I think it'll be a high scoring game. I am starting Kyle Fitz. Okay, Raiders are at the Niners. Jamie, are you confident in any Raiders player? - That Brock Bauer's guy's pretty good. - I'm so good. (laughs) Other than him. - I think it's gonna be a decent game for Gentie. I said this yesterday that there's been three running backs with 12.9 PPR points or more, with just their receiving totals alone against the 49ers this season. So they give up the most receptions to running backs. Obviously hopeful that we're gonna see that for Gentie again. So you'll get more than two carries. They'll be a little bit market correction there. And just based on how game flow goes, I don't think Mike Washington's gonna have the opportunity to be so dominant from a playing time standpoint. So chasing points, team that allows a lot of receptions to the position. This feels like a good spot for Gentie to bounce back. - Arizona's at Seattle. Michael Wilson or Tyler Algera. Dave, would you like better? - I'm gonna say Wilson. - And that's it. - Okay. - I just, I don't buy into Algera doing anything close to what he did last week. The full 180 as far as the matchup goes. - So the biggest injury that I'm looking at, the two biggest injuries I'm looking at this week, Cam scataboo and Son of a night. If night is out, I will change my opinion slightly on Algera. So he'll move up a few spots because he's gonna get so much work. - Okay, by the way, if Leonard Williams is out, you should know that sometimes he's great run defenses. They're about more than one player, right? I think we saw it last night with the Jaguars to a degree, but Seattle's allowed only 3.7 yards per carry to running backs when Williams has been off the field. That's on 67 carries. Okay, and he hasn't practiced this week. We've got the Rams at the commanders, Jamie. Who's the best flex option in this game other than Puka and Kyron? - The best flex option in this game. So it either be digs or corum. I might link corum just because of what he's done. - The tough question, isn't it? - It is. - I think digs is the right answer, but it's close. You can make the case for corum, for sure. - All right, the giants are at the commanders. Can you confidently start any Eagles players? - Safe one. - That's it. - Safe one, the guy who hobbles off the field every three plays. - You know what? - Yes. - Okay. - I would love to be more confident in him. I think he'll do great when he's on the field. For however long that is. - Yeah. - Look, I think he'll be motivated. It is his former team and players want to win. They want to try and get out there and do their thing. Could he have a game like Derek Henry just had? - Sure. - I actually think it hurts him that Joe Milton's at quarterback now instead of McKee, because McKee would check down and Joe Milton is a note for that. Joe Milton is a runner. We've seen him take off at times when he's played. It's been sparing when he's played and it's been in meaningless games, but he's still done it. I just think that he's the only one that fantasy managers can look and go, "Okay, maybe he can get me more than 10 or 11 PPR points." I think that's the range for lemon as well, but I just like so many other receivers better than lemon that I don't feel as confident in him. - Lemon is my second favorite, Eagles player by far. - Is he, but are you confident in him? I'm confident he's gonna get eight targets. - Okay. I'm confident. I would say the same thing. Like I would rather start lemon than Goddard. I'm just not as confident in any past catcher. - I think lemon is a very good number three fantasyers here. High end number three fantasyers here. - Here's a question that I think you should be able to get based on the teams we're talking about. Which team do you think is number two in the NFL behind the Seahawks in yards per attempt allowed defensively? - Eagles. - No. The Giants. - What's that phrasey? That is crazy. The Eagles are saying maybe like the bucks or something. - Yeah, no, it's weird. All right, and to the games we go, Denver's at Carolina. So here's what I think is the most important stat of this game. Bryce Yong has had only one big play. Now this, this team was a downfield passing, big play, you know, need good protection type of team. He's got one big play in each of his last two games and more importantly, he's got the second highest pressure rate in the NFL. They are giving up a ton of pressures and here comes Denver who has the third highest pressure rate in the NFL defensively. And that scares the crap out of me. I obviously I don't think people really want to start Bryce Yong, but if we could talk a more day of about Koker and McMillan that we saw it last week, the pressure was just overwhelming. And the packers were really onto that stuff that you were talking about, that gimmicky short stuff, those little slants to McMillan and whatever. They were ready for him. There's a horrible game for the Panthers offense. So yeah, that offensive line could get overwhelmed. What does that mean for the passing game and for these wide receivers? - I think it means you downgrade expectations for them and you consider how receivers have done. You talked about how Denver's given up some numbers to white outs this year. There's been six of them to get at least 16 PPR points. Five needed at least eight targets. Three of them needed double digit targets. And I don't know if both of these receivers are gonna be able to do that. If I had to pick one, the one who's been more consistently getting a lot of targets has been McMillan. So I'm not gonna overthink it. He's gonna be the one that I would take over Coker. The Broncos have been great against outside receivers and slot receivers this year. Just as far as metrics go, not fantasy metrics, EPA per dropback, those types of thing, yards per attempt, they're not getting killed by those positions. And while this should be a game script that is favorable for the pass catchers, I just, I can overlook this eye sore of an offensive line in the problems that they've had. And I think Denver will get after them. Would you guys start Stefan Diggs over the Panthers receivers? - No. I believe I have Diggs over Coker, but not McMillan. - If I know Jamie. - I might flip that and put Diggs ahead of McMillan too. - I don't really wanna start McMillan. - Let's play a game called, "Do I know Jamie?" If I know Jamie, I think he's got Coker over McMillan. - No. - Damn it. Well, Heath does, right? - Heath does. - Well, I'm with Heath. - If you know Jamie, what's Jamie's favorite sandwich? - Turkey and lettuce tomato. - With some mayonnaise. - Jamie? - Depends where I am. - Come on. Okay, Jersey Mikes. - Jersey Mikes would be a steaks up. - Okay. - Steaks up. Not wow. And then Laspadas. - Laspadas would be turkey roast beef. - Turkey and roast beef. Wow. - Yep. - All right. - I believe they call it the beef bird. - Beef bird. - We're sitting Bryce Young, right? Would you start Drew Hock and Carson went over Bryce Young? - Went that they asked. I would for Wentz. I am not there for Drew Locke. - Okay, it's a shame Bryce Young's been so good. Denver's 14th against quarterbacks. Again, this isn't the same thing as last year where no one has ever been good against them. Home's been good twice. Stafford was good, but he had 55 pass attempts. Purdy had a good game. So the only good quarterback that's done poorly is Trevor Lawrence. Chubahubber's a must start. Jonah Coleman is the start of the week. We like the running backs here. Any, what's your interest level, Jamie and Boenix and Jalen Waddle? - I think Boenix could be okay. This is not a secondary that is playing very well right now because of the injuries. And if he can run a little bit like we saw it two weeks ago, if he can continue to be leaning on his, I think Waddle and somebody else. They may get pap Ryan back for this game. Doesn't seem likely, but that's possibility. But it's just who's the other guy is gonna step up and help him. So we saw it last week with Coleman in the passing game. We saw it a couple of weeks ago with, Sutton having a little bit of production. I think it's just a matter of will he get to the second touchdown? So he's not a must start guy by any stretch. He's a quarterback you wear at the teens. I think he's a better quarterback in this game. Even though Bryce Young said a better fantasy season. For Jalen Waddle, this is one of my favorite stats this week. The last four games the Panthers have allowed seven wide receivers to get 12.4 PPR points or more. That's a lot. And so if he can get to that number, that puts him in the low end number to receiver range. I like him better than Coker. I'm not there to get with McMillan. But Waddle, three straight games with six plus targets, practicing full this week after dealing with the chest injury, scored a touchdown last week. He's clearly getting on a little bit better rapport with Nix. And I don't think the pressure's gonna be too much for Bo Nix. Their schedule is very brutal, you know, to start the season. And so just looking at some of the performances and lack of performances, you can understand maybe why Nix and Waddle weren't playing very well. This could be an opportunity for them to get right. So hopefully that's the case. - This defense is so beat up for Carolina. One of their backups who became a starter at cornerback will Lee, who is actually like a pass interference magnet is out. Jalen Phillips, arguably their best exterior pass rusher is hasn't practiced this week. I don't think he's gonna play. And their leading tackler is Bobby O'Carrickey. And he might not play. - Wow. And like it, it just all adds up to like a big green light certainly for Jonah, but Waddle. And even to a degree, Bo Nix is interesting. I don't know if he's got crazy upside, but he might be able to give you 17 to 20 fantasy points by week QB type deal. - They're also Derek Brown trade rumors. So he may not play his full snap count. - And speaking of not playing his full snap count, Jalen Waddle. didn't do that last week and he ran only 53% of the routes and he's still had a 21% target share. His target share the last four games has been 23%, 29%, 28% and 21%. This is really encouraging stuff. I talked about this earlier this week in terms of a buy low. I wish he hadn't caught the touchdown last week. I still don't think this is a good passing offense. I still don't think you're going to get what you drafted Waddle to be, but they've had such a tough schedule. It's getting easier now, beginning with this game and Waddle is super involved. I wish I had the guts to say start him over McMillan. Jamie say he's starting him over Coker, but he's not a bad start. Dave and Jamie have him around 30th. No, he's 24 for me. Oh, it's 24, okay. Did you guys move him up or was I just wrong? Did I have to? I had him there since Tuesday afternoon. My bad. So Jalen Waddle, borderline, two, three wide receivers, not bad this week. He's a start and start and start. And then for Coleman, on a scale of 1 to 10, what is your level of concern that Sean Payton's just going to Sean Payton us and JK Dobbins is going to have as many or more carries as Coleman. Coleman's not going to have more than like 12 carries. This is clearly a team you can run on. They've given up over 200 yards rushing in two games already this season. So this could clearly be if you're thinking about Waddle and Nick's is clearly be a game where both running backs come out and have success. He's yesterday on our sports network show, well, I guess only on our HQ, but on our network show, said that Dobbins is a sleeper. And I think that's a great call because this could be 15 plus carries for both of them. You just saw Jacob's had the bad game, but good bad Jacob, but that's Green Bay and they're in a fit. They just can't run. You saw two weeks ago the Tampa Bay rushing attack was amazing against this team. And so they're not at that level yet, never is not that level yet, but this could be an easy opportunity for both these guys to get 15 plus touches and both can score touchdowns here. So I think if you have Dobbins, I have another trade yesterday which I may regret from a short-term standpoint, but I was thinking more long-term. I traded to a team that had no quarterbacks. Jordan Love and JK Dobbins to get back Braille and Allen and Zach Sharpenen because I don't want to start. I'm stuck next week because I only have the, I have the Andre Swift, Tony Paul and JK Dobbins were only three running backs. So I was just trying to get some more depth and cover myself for the rest of the season. I don't need Jordan Love, but like I was thinking myself, this is not a bad week to have JK Dobbins because if I'm bad, the Panthers are. So he can be a flex. He could be maybe a number two running back if you're stuck. You just got to hope that what we saw last week, 66% of the snaps were for Coleman, no RJ Harvey. He was their best pass catcher out of the backfield. That's going to be the case until Harvey comes back and maybe even when Harvey is back, just based on what Coleman could do because they don't want to take him off the field because he does give them that multi-dimensional threat that coaches love. You don't know what they're going to do when he's on the field. You kind of know what you're going to do when Dobbins and Harvey are on the field from a split standpoint. So I think just given the match up here, Coleman's got top 15 upside. Dobbins got top 30 upside. Maybe even better. All right, let's go to our chat questions here. Coker or Dylan Samson, half PPR. Coker. We've got Coleman. Dave, I'll give this one to you. Coleman or Jacobs, half PPR. Jacobs. Why can't I think of Josh Jacobs match up right now? He's playing New England. The real game of the week. The Packers and the patrons. Not the game. It's spade people. That's the real game of the week. Hey, I had to get a real one in there. Sorry. I knew the match. This explains why you dressed up today. You wanted you wanted to look fancy for your multiple games. You don't know why. I only want to know why I dressed up today. Chicken par. No, I do want to know. Yeah, baby. I'll tell you at the end of the show. Chicken par vodka with light cheese, extra sauce on the side. That sounds pretty damn good. That's a good sandwich. Going back to our favorite sandwiches. Pickens, Olave, Tenerola, McMillan and Birdon. We have to have the conversation with Dan and then he'll have to say his two phrases. Yeah. Oh, okay. After this, we'll tell you the Dan Bet. Pickens, Olave, McMillan and Birdon. Sit one. Tet. Yeah. Jonah Coleman or Kyron Williams or Bench Jamison. Yeah, Bench Jamison Williams. I don't know if I want to bench Jamel. He's been amazing, but yeah, Jamel's probably that. I am my Bench Coleman. Coleman, Ramandre or Gentie. Ramandre slightly ahead of Coleman. Agreed. Bohenix, JJ McCarthy or Drew Lock. Next. I think you make the case for next. Waddle or Michael Wilson? Quaddle. I might take Wilson if it's full PPR. Okay. Let's go to our next game. This is the one I'm really excited about. I'm not gonna. Oh, Denver DST is top four. Yeah. I'm not gonna sing the song or anything. Sure, you're not. No, I can't do three. Tampa Bay is at Chicago. Tampa Bay actually has the third lowest pressure rate in the NFL, which is really surprising. Despite having the sixth highest blitz rate, but why is that? Because no team, I don't know the best way to say this. No team has a lower opponent time to throw than Tampa Bay. In other words, team pressure, the fastest. They get no, they get the quarterbacks get rid of the ball, the fastest against Tampa. Okay. Whereas Caleb Williams has the highest time to throw. He gets rid of the ball. He holds the ball longer than any other quarterback and football on average. But when he does get rid of the ball quickly, 2.5 seconds or less, he's number one in completion percentage and third in yards per attempt. So he's just been awesome in all these situations. Jamie, how does the Bears offense do against? Honestly, you could say arguably the best defense in football through eight weeks. I think they'll do okay. I don't think they'll be great. Clearly, you've seen Caleb Williams play very well. He did so against the very good defense last week in Seattle on the road. They move the ball with ease and you just didn't get great fantasy production from Caleb Williams, which is the frustrating part. He's played five games this season. I think you could say in four of them, he had a very strong performance across the board in terms of his play. The one game would be the Minnesota game in the bad weather than he got hurt at the end of the game. So three of the five games that he's played has been under 20 fantasy points. I think he's going to be under 20 fantasy points again. That's just something that the Bucks don't allow as big games, the quarterbacks. So I'm not thrilled to start Caleb Williams, but I'm thrilled to roster Caleb Williams because there's going to be some big games coming up. You just have to understand they have their vine week 10. So you may now have three straight games, three straight weeks of him not being a great fantasy quarterback. It could be very similar to what Trevor Lawrence did last night just from a different game. Well, they're not. Two weeks ago, though, he scored 26.1 points against New England. Yep. No, what I think that doesn't pressure like crazy. They try that that's going to stay in three straight weeks. You have the Seattle game this week and the no no game next week. Oh, I'm sorry to be the buy next week. Okay. Yeah. So I think you're you just have to understand what Caleb Williams is and I'm fascinated to see the stretch run of the NFL season for the MVP race because Caleb's in it Trevor Lawrence is in it rock parties in it Alan's in it like you have you have some strong quarterbacks that aren't necessarily padding their stats, but they're just playing so well and their teams are playing well. This is going to be a fun chess match. The bucks don't give up a lot of production or running backs. Obviously, you're still starting Deandra Swift. You're still starting Luther burden. You're still starting close to the loved one. Oh, Dunez is a I think a good number three receiver, but there's defensive stuff. Here's a crazy staff for you. So I went and looked and saw the quarterbacks that did have a high time to throw against Tampa this year. And again, this is the average time that they have before from snap to when they actually let go of the ball. It's Bryce Jung, Michael Pentax and Kyler Murray. The literally the three worst quarterbacks against Tampa this year in terms of fantasy points. And they were the ones that held the ball the longest. So I think that makes that's a strike against Caleb Williams. Could Caleb come through for like a three touchdown game? Of course he could. He's been playing great. Jamie talked about it, but Tampa's messed up a lot of offense this season. And a lot of good quarterbacks have played poorly against them. So I might lean into that and try and get away from Caleb Williams. Joe burrow. Jordan loved that press got none of them scored 18 fantasy points and six point for passing touchdown leagues. I went back. I watched the Jordan love tape and he definitely could have had a good game. He Tucker Kraft dropped two touchdowns. One of them was, well, no, he dropped one touchdown. Then love did score after that. But then there was a play where Kraft was wide open to the end zone. He just didn't get his feet in bounds. That's 23 points. If he catches that ball, there was a fumble with a three yard line in that game by the Packers. There was a fumble. It did feel by Matthew Golden. So I think basically you got to play like a really good game. Like you don't make mistakes. But yeah, it's tough. I look at your rankings. I like Caleb this week, but I look at your rankings. I think you got, you know, he's around 15th. It's hard to make the case of for him. I mean, I think it's a pro. It's hard to make the upside case. I think that's the thing. He's just playing. He's playing amazing. I know, but he's also not running. So that's that doesn't. And what are the bears doing when they're getting near the goal line? They're ready. They're going to do that again. I mean, three, three short yarded rushing touchdowns for SWIFT last week against Seattle. I mean, I know, but three, like they got down there four times. Three. I don't think they score as much in this game. That's fair. Maybe not, but all right. So let's talk about the other player. He could easily have two hundred two and two. I mean, you know, it's not out of their own possibility. Like Dave said, he could have a huge game. He's, he is legitimately playing as well as anybody in the NFL. He could have two hundred and two. You can even keep the interceptions. So it's okay. Now that you expect a book at a play, I would caution everyone. This bear's defense has been really really good against outside receivers. It's kind of crazy. You think about a Macmillan at 12.5 points, Justin Jefferson, 8.5, Devonte Smith, 12.5, Garrett Wilson, 5.7, Drake London, 10.2, AJ Brown, 7.8. How would you rank the wide receivers in this game, Dave? - There's a lot of asterisks with a lot of those receivers, by the way, which is just how things go. And maybe you do tip your cap to Chicago's defense in that regard. - Burton is the number one receiver. I would have, I'm not gonna rank tight ends, just wide receivers. - Yeah. - Burton, a Buka, a Dunesay, big space, the rest. - Gotcha. - For the running backs, it's clearly a tough matchup for Deandre Swift, and he hasn't run efficiently. And it's possibly a tough matchup now for Bucky Irving now that they have Jeff Simmons, and they're healthy at linebacker now. They were great last week. Any hesitation, Jamie, with these running backs who've been so good? - No, no. I mean, you could have some hesitation with Derek Henry because of how bad the quarterback's issue is gonna be in the defense that he was playing. Like, these two offences are playing very well for what their identities are. Now, again, the Bears may put the bucks, take the bucks out of their identity if they score early and they're forced to throw. But I think that will help Bucky Irving the passing game. So, you're just looking at the way that they've performed. Deandre Swift, 10 touchdowns. Like, you don't wanna say he's guaranteed to score, but that's just the profile right now without Monaga and the field. He's gonna get a lot of work. He's gonna get those ball line opportunities. He'll be involved in the passing game, especially with the pressure being what it is. So, I think you're still starting him without hesitation. And Bucky Irving is just dominating right now. So, again, tough opponent, different opponent, different game script potentially. You gotta really be loaded on your fantasy team to bench these guys. - You like Kenneth Gainwell or Blake Corm? - Corm. - Corm. - Kenneth Gainwell is Kenneth Gainwell even like a top 36 running back? - No. 'Cause again, Gainful. - Yeah. - I've got him at 42. So, there was ever a surefire guy that was gonna finish top 20. - Kenneth Gainwell, 'cause I got him at 42. - You guys have Coulson Loveland in the top five. Bucks have been great against receivers, great against running backs, great against quarterbacks. Not so great against Tidens and Loveland just had nine targets against Seattle. Had a good game if not for the fumble. Still solid game. - Back to a must start. - Yeah. Which DST do you like better? - Bear. - I like the Bear's DST. I think they're gonna, all right, I mean, it's not a, they're six and a half point favorites. Okay, it's not like, I was gonna say, I think they're gonna win fairly easily, but that's not a bolt-take. They're six and a half point favorites. But we'll see, it should be fun. Let's get some questions here. People commenting on my shirt, those are very funny, but we'll get to those in a bit. Emeca Bucca or Devon Veile? - A Bucca, a Bucca. - I look like Forest Gump, that shirt, okay. Kayla Williams, Jordan Lover, Malik Willis. - I'll take love. - Pick two, pardon me. Pick two, Javante Williams, DeAndre Swift, Jonah Colman. - Sydney Colman. - Agreed. - Sam LaPorta or Colson Lovelin? - Lovelin. - Lovelin. - Likely or Lovelin, half PPR. - Lovelin. - Lovelin. - Rishi Rice, Malik Neighbors, Luther Burton, Matthew Golden, we have to sit one. Rice Neighbors, Burton Golden. - Sit, burden. I think it's a rice. - Jacob's Ibuka or DJ Moore? Josh Jacobs, Ibuka or DJ Moore? - Jacob's. Agreed. - And Ameca Buka or Keenan Allen? - Allen. - Buka. - Wow, Allen, yeah. - I'm clearly a little nervous about Ameca. Like, let's just be real here. We have not seen one good passing game from Baker Mayfield yet. - No. - And I do. - He's also at a brutal start to the season. - I consider this a tough matchup though. I mean, I just agree. - Yeah. - He did have, for at least the Ameca argument, he did have 25 targets in the last two games that he played. - Right. It wasn't with Baker for what it's worth. And Tampa's probably feeling themselves with their run game. So you've got to be worried about a balanced approach. And that could obviously short circuit targets across the board for Tampa. And that would hurt Ibuka. But he should be the top target yet. Or I think they've realized that they've got to have the offense, the passing offense, roll through him. I think Mohammed playing, you talked about him. I think that makes a big difference for Chicago. All right, we're gonna take a break. Those were the two games I really wanted to dive deep on. Cincinnati, Atlanta could be a good one too. The Falcons, I thought they were gonna get their defensive end. James Pierceback, but he's got a back issue. I'm not sure that how much it will help against this Bengals offense. Is this gonna be a Chase Brown week? We'll tell you after this. Cincinnati and Atlanta in Espanya. And Borough is a start. Chase Brown or Jonah Coleman this week. I go back and forth. I think in PPR Chase Brown safer. I agree. I know I, I, I just feel like Chase Brown's gonna have a really good game. It's hard to say. He actually had a pretty good game in PPR last week. He had a great game in PPR. Should have been a monster game with a touchdown counter, right? Falcons allow the fourth most points to running backs, 4.62 yards per carry to running backs. Where were they at before last week? That's a great question. Because you almost want to throw out last week. I don't think you really can, but it was just crazy how that game went and how much the Falcons turned the ball over and all that stuff. They allowed the fifth most fantasy points to running back last. All right, I thought it was a little bit better than that. But the yards per carry went up big time. It was 4.1 to running backs last week. And now it's 4.6. However, all your lawn they've struggled against pass catching running backs. Except that last week when the box didn't complete a pass. So anyway, it sets up well for him. Start Higgins, start Chase. If you want to listen to Beyond the Box score, we did a little bit of a breakdown of T Higgins. And interesting stuff, I hope for you. That was on Monday. If you want to go back and listen to that toward the end of the show. Micah Sikki, you guys have-- let's get the updated rankings. 14th for Jamie, 19th for Dave, 20th for Heath. Give me three targets. If you get three targets, you'll have more PPR points every game. Tough to trust, though, because his target share is really, really low. But he's also a slot receiver. 81% slot rate for Micah Sikki leads all to-- I would love, love, love to see them come out and just throw from the beginning. Don't wait until you're in these desperate scenarios of, hey, let's just let Joe Barrow throw another MVP can. It's already mentioned in four. They will run the ball with success at some point in this game. Just don't force it early. I don't love to spend a lot of time on the Bengals or the Falcons, because I feel like they're two of the easier fantasy teams. Barrow, Higgins, Chase must start. Bejohn, still a must start. I kind of dug into what's gone wrong with him, but I don't think this game script has been a little bit of a problem. Heavy rain last week probably didn't help, but just nothing in the past in game. Time of possession's been a problem, but-- I hope his primetime, quote unquote primetime scenario shows up this week because Spotlight games. He's so good in spotlight games. All right, anyway, start him. Any hesitation with Drake London with the DJ Turner thing? No, OK. And Turner was back at practice? Yeah, Turner's practice saying he should be good to go. And they've done well against the Mecca Buka, DK Metcalf, Parker Washington, whatever. Kyle Pits, Dave talked about him earlier, likes him a lot. I'll give you some pits or pits or Hawkinson. Pits. Pits. Pits or Loveland. Loveland. I choose Loveland. Pits or Warren. Pits. Warren. Michael Penex or Zhu Locke or Carson Wentz? That's not a pits or-- No. Penex, I think he bounced back this week. Who were the names? Penex or who? Wentz and Locke. I'll take Wentz against Buffalo. Penex was really good before the rain game. And Ken Ward just carved up this defense. Like, this should be a good game for Michael Penex, especially at the point total. That being said, you have him 19th. So it's not like he's a muscle. Well, it's not like, hey, I want to start Michael Penex, but he had been playing better. This defense has not played well. By the way, yeah, I know you're all-- some of you are giving me some crap, understandably, about what I said about Bijan Robinson in the rain game. I meant in terms of his receiving. He ran, oh, fine. He had 70-something brushing yards or whatever, but he didn't-- I don't think he caught a pass last week. They just couldn't-- I need to just give him 20 touches every week. Find a way every week. Bangle's-- I'm sorry, Dave. Bangle's DST, 18th for Jamie, 11th for Dave, 23rd for Heath. They're not good. They're just not good. Every time we buy into them, they let us down. Last week should have been a layup. And the Titans did whatever they wanted to against them. So one of my problems is finding DSTs to, like, fill in the top 12 this week. So I just got to say here in defense of these beloved Bengals and their DST, they scored eight fantasy points last week in our fantasy football today. They did fine. I mean-- They got a safety. They had a couple of fumble recoveries. They just have a point. They did in 440 yard. They gave up a 20 yard. That's Titans. And this-- - Like when you look at the Falcons offense, you have to separate the first two games versus the rest. - It's true. - Oh, sure. And you should probably separate last week's game from-- - Oh, you got us about last week's game. - Right, for the most part. - All right, let's go to the rating. - But like, okay, so like here's my problem is, what DSTs do you turn to if you're not using the Bengals? Do you go with the lions against Miami when they've got so many guys missing? Do you go with the browns? - Browns for sure. - Browns for sure. - Do you go with the box against Chicago? - Browns for sure. - Okay, Green Bay or New England. I would trust those defenses. Both of them, more so than the Bengals at this point. - All right, let's go to the next game. Raiders are at the 49ers. And I got some, hold on real quick, I got some Dallas Cowboys injury updates here. George Pickens, he's gonna be, they're hopeful that Pickens can play. So make sure you get-- - Make sure Ryan Funoys is not on waivers. And also Joey Porter, Junior, Caleb Downs and PJ Locke. All three in their secondary have a chance to play. They could all three play, they all three could be out. Same with Damarian Overshown. It's gonna be a-- - So you're gonna start Daniel Jones, huh? - It's gonna be a healthy defense or it's gonna be a completely beat up defense. All right, Raiders are at San Francisco. Jamie, you think this is gonna be a Michael Mayer or a Trey Tucker game? - I hope both. I feel more confident mayor to be honest with you just because the secondary is a little bit better on the perimeter right now for the 49ers. I think just looking at it as the way that Kirk Cousins is gonna play in this game, I don't think he's gonna have a lot of time. And so this is lean on the tight end game. - So I'll tell you, the 49ers, they don't give up big plays. They allow the second fewest yards per catch in the NFL behind only Seattle. And when it comes to short passes, zero to seven area yards where the tight ends live, they allow the fifth highest completion percentage. And they see, to your point, Jamie, they see the fourth lowest area yards per pass attempt in the NFL. Quarterbacks don't really throw down field. Quarterbacks don't get chunk plays against them. Does those stats make you more confident in mayor, less confident in Trey Tucker or have zero effect on you? And I wasted my time. - No, I agree, I think mayor for the most part, you know, you take out the Rams game because they're created eliminating tight ends. Bowers is not that guy. I think mayor is gonna be a very fascinating weekly low end starting option that fantasy managers until we see it for four or five weeks in a row. And he's not gonna be 15.16 points. He's gonna be that 10, 11, 12 type of guy where why didn't I start him? Why didn't I start? - I'll give you an example. I picked up Greg Dolce's. I had the opportunity to pick up Michael Mayer. I think there's a higher ceiling for Dolce's this week because of who he's playing. Would not shock me at all if mayor's better. - Yeah. I dropped Dallas Gotter from Michael Mayer. Could go either way on that one, but Gotter's got to buy it next week. That's one of the reasons I did it. Okay, Kirk Cousins, Dave Starter, sit. It's a tough matchup on paper, but they haven't really faced good competition. They were getting a little healthier this week, though the Niners. - I have him as a start. It's a low end start. I am a little worried about him getting blown out and the Raiders getting blown out. We don't know how many 49ers starters are gonna play. It does sound like it could be tough for that to be the case. If there's no Evans, if there's no Debo, but they do at McCaffrey, they do have Kittle, and this Raider's defense is just so bad that you can't help but think that the 49ers are gonna put up points and, I mean, they're a huge favorite at home anyway. And if it's a blowout, we've seen it before, Cousins will get benched. Mendoza will come in and play. I don't know if I, I don't know if I'm very confident in Cousins. - Yeah, he comes through pretty much every week. He's the number six quarterback. - I get it. - How did he do in the game where he didn't come through and what happened in the game? - The one game he didn't come through against New England. - Yeah. - They got blown out. - Mendoza came in on the road and it was on the road. And this 49ers defense for all the things that you just laid out, okay. So explosive plays could be off the table for Kirk Cousins. And the 49ers pass rush has got a big boost with the forest buckner coming back. - This is just, I'm talking myself out of Cousins as I sit here. - He's a very nerve-racking type of player but you could also still find his way with garbage time to get you a big performance. Like, you have to be really confident in whoever you're benching him for. You know, so when you're talking about the, all the replacements this week as much as anybody may like, wence or lock, I would take lock over wence based on his matchup. But like, looking at all these guys, I'm not starting them over Cousins. I'm not starting both over Cousins. I'm not starting the one that I struggle with because of the potential upsides like Malik Willis because the lions are so beat up and they've been batting against quarterbacks all season. I would still take Cousins. You know, so there's lots of different ways to sort of go about this. I think you just have to ride the hot hand and Cousins has been surprisingly as hot as any quarterback on the league for the majority of the season. - I think I'm gonna make the switch. I think I'm gonna move them significantly down. - Ooh. - And I think I will put Willis ahead of him because the lions are so beat up and because Willis has been playing fairly well for three straight weeks. - All right. So that means you're gonna move Cousins behind Jaden Daniels. - Yep. - Caleb Williams. - Yep. - And Jamie, how about you? Jaden Daniels? - No, I'm not moving Cousins, so I think he's fine. Where do you have him? - 11. - 11th. - Okay, so I'm moving him to like 15. - Okay, Jamie already talks about how, you know, he thinks Ash and Gentie could be good. Look at the rankings here for Gentie. 19th for Jamie, 22nd for Dave, 18th for Heath. That's right around Ali Gordon territory, right around Seikwang Barclay territory. What about Mike Washington Jr., Jamie? Start or sit? - I would try to sit him. He definitely should have added him. You definitely wanna see how this all plays out. But just the way that the game flow should go. They were beating the Jets, easy to lean on, they're running back. I think anybody that evaluates talent and evaluates systems and evaluates scenarios has said Mike Washington is a better fit to run the ball for this team than Ash and Gentie. Does not mean it's a better player than Ash and Gentie. A better fantasy option than Ash and Gentie. Gentie in this game should be very valuable because of how the game flow should go and what the 49ers have done. You laid it out, you know, the areas of success, again, the ball quick, getting a ball short and Gentie should have plenty of opportunities here. And I'll just repeat the stat. Three running backs this season, 12.9 PPR points or more with just their receiving totals alone. So there's an opportunity here for Gentie to still get you the type of production that you hope for. I just think in the case of Washington, if they get behind, he's off the field. He had no catches last week. So 25 carries, fantastic. See how this goes. Probably if they get close to the goal line, he's gonna have some opportunities to maybe score. I just don't wanna trust that. No team has allowed more catches to running backs than the 49ers. Did you have that at him? Yeah, I didn't say that, but yes, or received it. I said it when I talked about Gentie earlier. Yeah, this is the best matchup for that type of player. All right, rank the Raiders running backs versus the Jets running backs. Let's say half PPR. Gentie, Hall, Allen, Washington. Allen, Gentie, Hall, Washington. Trey Tucker is a number three receiver. He's really tough. He's just tough to know what to expect. Most of the wide receivers that do well, basically all of them that do well against San Francisco get like seven or more targets. And Tucker, yeah, I mean, look sometimes he does. You just never know what this guy's tricky, but we already told you about this nineers defense. Why it might not be a great matchup for Trey Tucker. Start, Purti, are we definitely starting, Purti? Are you guys having the top three? He has not been good since the Mike Evans injury. Against his defense, yes. All right. If you don't have the top three, top 10. Yeah, I got a mate. Oh, sorry. Yesterday, I think it was third, unless I screwed that up, but all right, you've got him eighth. Jamie may have him second. And so that's Purti. Start McCaffrey, if he plays. If he doesn't, Caleb Blacks is going to be a very good play. Start, I think Black might be in play also if McCaffrey's healthy, not as a must-start guy, but if you're desperate for a flex, what they'll probably end up doing is, you know, what we saw a couple weeks ago is using McCaffrey a little bit more as a receiver. And Black gets, you know, a little bit more carries, especially if McCaffrey's not at 100%. So you can't say he's safe, but hey, I'm stuck by week's injuries, whatever. Like, could come into play here because they are such heavy favorites and all. And is Demarcus Robinson the receiver that you hope plays, like assuming Evans and Debow are out, which looks like it's going to be the case? Yes. He's the one you want out there. Yeah, it doesn't mean I'm going to start him. He would be at best a by-weak replacement receiver. I think he helps Purdy quite a bit because he does have some big play potential. All right, let's read some chat questions. Mike Washington Jr., or Caleb Black. I'm Michael Black. So this is obviously assuming McCaffrey plays. Yeah. Michael Mayer or Joanne Johnson? Mayor. Mayor. Borough or Purdy? Borough. Borough is my number one QB. Tyler Algier or Caleb Black. Algier, Algier. If McCaffrey's out. Black, Caleb Black. Kittle, Olave, or Fanon, pick two? I'd snitch Fanon. Yes, if Fanon, if Fanon, I'd play. He served? Yeah, growing in-- oh, you didn't say it this earlier. He had a growing injury, I think. or I'll give you it happened in practice yesterday so not a good time. Crap, I'm sorry about that. Perty or Gough? Gough as of now. Perty. Stroud or Cousins? Stroud. Cousins. Cousins are Joe Milton. Cousins? Okay. And, John or Ashton Gentie. Colman or Gentie, even in full PPR? Colman. Fanon was added to the injury port in the limit of the groin injury. So Friday's practice will be pretty big for him. Yep. 49ers DST, they are 10th for Jamie, 8th for Dave, 13th for Heath. Hopefully they're, this is actually a terrible matchup, like the Raiders have been good. Yeah. It's true. Yeah, bad, bad for DSTs and the 49ers have sucked this year, but they are healthier. And better with Buckner. Arizona's at Seattle, how do we approach the running backs in this game, Dave? Carefully. If there's no BAM night, you've got to figure that Tyler Algier will see the type of workload that we were hoping for Jeremiah love to get this year. And maybe that borders on 15 touches and it could come via 10 carries five catches. That's obviously appealing for full PPR leagues. He is probably my highest ranked running back right now. I'd have to double check and make sure. Sharban A is a short yardage goal line candidate. You're hoping for him to score. I think they want to get Jadari in price going. This is the matchup where he could end up doing something like that, but it's a risky to start him and expect him to have a huge game when you know that short yardage opportunities near the goal line just won't be there for him, theoretically. Jeremiah. Why not? Oh, I can think of a few reasons why not. Let's see. My eardrums can think of a few reasons. Why not? Jullock or J.J. McCarthy. Locked. J.J. McCarthy. I'll take lock. Jullock or Geno Smith at the Chiefs. Man. Jullock. I kind of like the outlook for Geno. This pass rush hasn't been great. Their secondary is banged up and Geno's been playing well. His offensive line's been playing well. I know he doesn't have good well against Miami and the Raiders. I know. But is it a step up in competition? There's no doubt. Is this one of the toughest defenses in the league? I don't think so. But it's tougher than the last two that he faced and now he's got to go on the road. I mean, look, Jamie's got Geno. I don't love Geno. But you have Geno ahead of lock for now, one spot and Dave has some four spots. That's okay. 10 starters. I mean, they're around 20th in the rankings. McBride and JS Center, cool. Michael Wilson's a tough one for me. I mean, I loved, loved the connection between him and Gardner Menshu. It was phenomenal. But it didn't happen until the last drive of the fourth quarter. Before that, he was having another high-target game and disappointing production. And then he went berserk. He also, Michael Wilson has one catch on 15 end zone targets. He had five end zone targets last week and he finally caught a touchdown. So, okay, Wilson or Trey Tucker. Wilson. Wilson. Wilson or Romo Dunesay? Wilson. Wilson or Jalen Waddle? Waddle. Yeah, I said earlier for somebody. Yeah. I have Wilson, a spot higher and full PPR. Wilson or Adonai Mitchell? He's got two broken ribs. It's, I mean, if that, this game gets out of whack, it's going to be tough for him to staining it. All right. Fine. So if Garrett Wilson's out, Wilson or Adonai Mitchell? Wilson. I will take both Jets receivers over Michael Wilson, if Garrett Wilson's up. Oh. Mm-hmm. So, like, where do they show up in your rankings in that scenario? 24, 25, 26. Oh. How about that? All right. Interesting. Okay. So, I guess if we have any questions about the running backs in this game, we probably do. Let's see. We got Charbonne or Rashad White? I'd start white, white. Julak, Michael Pentix or Bryce Young? Start one. Pentix. Uh, who do I have the highest? I've got young the highest. I don't really love it. Yeah. Look, Julak had a great game first time around against Arizona. He had like an 81 yard touchdown to a wide open JSN. There were a lot of his fantasy points, but I sure all three of his touchdowns went to JSN. So, JSN's pretty good. You might only score two this week. Locker Willis. Malik Willis. Well, it's. Locker Caleb. Yeah. Caleb. Caleb. Pick one. Judkins. Stevenson or Al Jir. And it's going to be Stevenson. So then ranks, rank Stevenson. Judkins. Al Jir. He just did. Yep. Charbonne or Singletary? Uh, that one was down to the whole area. Scott it was up. Right. And if Scott it would be plays, then it's Charbonne. Charbonne or, uh, Adonai Mitchell, PPR. Mitchell. Mitchell. Michael Wilson or DJ Moore? More. More. Michael Wilson or DeVon Valey? Wilson. Agreed. Michael Wilson or Braylon Allen, full PPR? Wilson. I'll take Allen. Really? Okay. I think Dave's picking up Jets upset. I think they'll keep it close. The Rams are picking the win. Rams and commands. Kind of, kind of something there, maybe. Rams are at the commanders. Listen, we got a Matthew Stafford issue. Yeah. That the fifth lowest big play rate over the last four weeks ahead of only Tyler Shock, Tanner McKee, Tyler Huntly and Justin Herbert. His A dot has absolutely plummeted. He's just not throwing the ball down field. He said elbow soreness. Right now in the rankings, Matthew Stafford is 10th for Jamie 13th for Dave and 10th for Heath. Um, the matchup is so damn good. But yeah, Dave, what's your level of trust? You're the low guy at 13 on Stafford. I just feel like three big things have happened to Stafford over the last three weeks. Since week six, that's affected his play and his numbers. You mentioned the elbow soreness. That's one defense has started to blitz the split Stafford like crazy. And Devata Adams has been hurt. And so with that being the case, I feel like his upside is really capped and the Rams are running the ball really well. And I think the Rams are going to continue to run the ball well here too. I know the commanders, like the best part of their defense is the run defense. Their defensive line took some hits over the last couple of weeks. There's no deron pain. There's no javon kinlaw. These are problems. And I could see the Rams finding and sticking with their run game, finding some success and taking the ball out of Stafford's hands. And Stafford isn't challenging down field in part because he's getting blitz so much. Commanders blitz at a very high rate anyway. And so I don't love Stafford, but I, you can make the case for him to be around 20 to 22 fantasy points. So let's call him an okay starter, just not a great start. >> Okay. And you know, I think who's I talking about earlier is being a trade talker. Trade talker is like so hard to rank. I think Blake Korum must be hard for you guys to rank, because in the back of your mind, you've always got to have this, but Blake Korum could have 11 carries for 65 yards and zero catches and zero touchdowns. He's super efficient. He plays really well in real life and he's terrible for fantasy, you know? >> Well, I mean, he's better than a bunch of backfields by himself, you know? So like, I would trust him over the Jets backfield this week. I would trust him over the Cardinals backfield this week, unless it's just out here. I would trust him over the Saints backfield, the Seahawks backfield. Like, you know, there's just those questionable situations like, now for this week, and clearly he's been better than a couple of these guys, but like Juddkins has such a great matchup even though he's been struggling. You're starting Juddkins over him. Rashad White, without McNichols now in the same game, he's been so consistent like you're starting Rashad White over him, you know? So like, you start to get to that 22, 23, 24 through 30, like that's where Blake Korum belongs. It's hard to overlook four straight games with him scoring a touchdown. You don't want to bank on him always scoring touchdowns. A couple of those games he's been involved in the passing game during that stretch. They lost about the Adam. So they're trying to figure out different ways to, you know, help Matthew Stafford and help the passing game. I think they're trying to be more, you know, multi-dimensional, not just like Korum's on the field. They're running the ball. That's what they're going to do. It's one of those scenarios where I think you just start to buy into the production. He looks great when he's running the ball. You know, you talked about this in the preseason, Adam, he runs better than Kyron Williams. He doesn't always do a lot of the things that you like to see. I say that. I don't know if I said that. I mean, maybe I did. I thought you did. They're both great. He's more explosive, Kyron's probably a little more dependable. I think he's probably a better true runner than Kyron Williams, and that's not a knock on this year. It's just that, you know, there are things that Korum does that are kind of great. And so, understand a little why the Rams want to play both of them. So it's not the most ideal situation for either one because they are, you know, cannibalizing themselves a little bit. It's been four times the season where they've each scored at least 10 and a half fantasy points. Three of them, I'm sorry, it's been six times where they've scored 10 and a half fantasy points or more. Three of the last four, they've done that. So it's getting production from both of them. And this is a matchup as they alluded to, no pain, no can law, they just lost two of their better interior defensive linemen. Like you could see them lean on on these two guys and not have to put Stafford in situations where he's got a worse than his elbow. So I've divided the workload, like how the workload is broken down between Kyron and Korum in four different buckets for the Rams this year, blowout wins, blowout losses, score wins and one score losses. Last week was the first blowout win the Rams had where Kyron dominated snaps in the first half, like 80% of the snaps were Kyrons. And it was Korm on one drive in the third quarter where he went out there and he just absolutely chopped up the chargers. And he basically got all of his fantasy points on that one drive in the third quarter. And in the second half, usually in these blowout wins, it's almost 50/50 between Kyron and Korm in the second half. And usually it's a lot closer than 80/20 in the first half. But in the second half, it was Kyron like 60/40 over Korm. And that makes me a little nervous. Like is that a sea change here? Is that something that the Rams are trying to do? Are they trying to get Kyron going? Because the one time when they do want to trust Kyron is when the games on the line, the stakes are high. It's a high value touch. It's a drive that they need to have their most dependable running back on. You can tell the coach is still trust Kyron a little bit more than Korm. That hasn't changed. And so if you think this is going to be a fairly close game, and I kind of think it might be, then it's going to be a little tough for Korm to come through. But you can't ignore how he's looked and how he's performed over his last four weeks. And I don't think the Rams are just going to push him to the side here, especially since there's an issue with Stafford and his arm. Stafford or Jane Daniels? Daniels. Stafford. Yeah, it's close, though. Daniels, let's say he's playing well. He didn't have a great game last week. But prior to that, he was playing like a must-start. And this isn't a must-start. Yeah, well, he's 12 for you. It's going for quarterbacks. It's a really good week for quarterbacks. Yeah, surprisingly enough, with all the news that has come down, it's a good week for quarterbacks. Well, we haven't really seen a lot of him without McLaren. We saw one game, we've seen three halves of him without McLaren. And he did well against San Francisco. But 16 of 29, 217 yards in a touchdown, only 23 rushing yards last week against Philadelphia. And I don't even know if this is a tough match-up, because they're just not that healthy unless Miles Garrett plays this week, because I don't think he's going to do well. That would swing things for me, Adam. If Garrett plays against this offensive line, I would be a little more nervous about Daniels. And then I would flip Stafford with Daniels. I also think, like you looked at last week's game, and they didn't fear the opposing offense. They're going to have to score points this week. Yeah. Washington running backs here. You know, gosh, I think I might know. I was going to start Ecclo over O'Marion Hampton in a PPR league, but with-- I feel bad for you. With Hampton with this report that he might get more touches, I'll just ride with Hampton. Rashad White's interesting. He's right around 24th, 25th for everyone. The fact that Big Nichols is out for the season is good for White. I mean, it takes the goal line factor out of it, not to say Ecclo couldn't mix in there. And the Rams give up the six most receiving yards per game, but the run-deaf to running backs. But the run-deaf fence is like so good. They're really good against running backs. So White's an OK start. White or Diggs? White, Diggs. White or Antonio Williams? White, white. Diggs or Antonio Williams? Diggs. Stafford. OK, Diggs, you know, he's been so inefficient. He's got one of the lowest big play rates in the NFL. You touched down. You touched down. Rams are good against receivers. We know it. O'Connor was a sit. Brutal matchup. Rams are amazing against tight ends. See if we have any chat questions. I don't think I spent enough time on Antonio Williams. So I will. Koram or Breeze Hall? Koram. Yeah. Koram over Breeze. Sorry for pausing. Who'd you say, Dave? Koram over Breeze Hall. Yeah, fine. You guys convince me, Koram. Koram. Koram over both jets or any backs. Koram, Mason. I take Grayland over him. We got to talk about these jets running back. So I'm curious where your head's at. Oh, we did yesterday. Koram, Mason. I was in the back. Koram. Koram. Koram, Michael Wilson. People are the Wilson, if it's full PPR. Jayden Daniels are my homes. Well, agreed. Rashad White or Jalen Kocher, PPR. White. White. Um, you know, it's starting a Rams tight end. Maybe a Ferguson plays. You could stash Ferguson. Antonio Williams or Tyler Algier. That's a good question. Algier for sure. If night is out. Agreed. Oh, you know, injury in this game to keep an eye on is Traylon Berks. He hasn't practiced. That's a boost for Williams. That's too bad. Yes. Yes. If Berks doesn't play. Yes. Rashad White or Ashton Gentie. Gentie. Agreed. All right. So let's talk about Antonio Williams and Stefan Diggs. By the way, you can start the Rams DST. As they relate to McIleman, uh, we go to Washington or go to the Giants at Philadelphia. Would you start McIleman or a commander's wide receiver? Right now it's lemon. I'm sorry. Diggs over, over lemon. But right now it's lemon over Williams, uh, unless Berks is out then I might switch it. I think I have Williams over lemon anyway. Uh, do you think McKee, the switch from McKee to Milton is good or bad for lemon and Goddard? I think it's bad, um, unknown. I think it's probably bad for volume, maybe better for touchdown opportunities. If Skataboo is out, would you start Singletary or Barclay? Singletary. Yeah, I think I'd go Singletary too. If Skataboo is in, would you start Barclay or Skataboo? Skataboo. Skataboo. Skataboo. And Jamie said Barclay, okay, Dave, uh, expand on that. What do we do with Skataboo this week if he plays? If he practices on Friday, he's in there, hopefully he's getting at least a lean in terms of touches and snaps over Devon Singletary and certainly is the best candidate to score. And so I also think the game script will be pretty favorable for the Giants because I, if you want to use the term unknown, I don't know what we're going to get from this Eagles offense, but I'm probably going to lean toward nothing great from the Eagles offense. And therefore, it's just going to be a good game script for the Giants running backs to come through and Skataboo is their best one. You just got a pretty good example of what could happen to a running back that did not practice for the majority of the week and the team won. You're going to need probably a little bit of luck with Skataboo if that happens with what happened with Tune. Yeah. I mean, it's a little different with the Thursday thing, but I know what you're saying. Right. He's got a practice on Friday. And then they're going to listen as questionable if he does that. And then you've got to wait till Sunday to make sure that he's playing. And then you're going to need a report saying, yeah, you know, he's, you know, first up in drills and all that stuff. It's going to come right down to the kickoff on it. It's just so nerve-wracking that by week, full week, nothing. Right. And they could make it easy on us and not have him practice on Friday. And then there's an issue about when he comes back. But this is why you pick up Devon Singletary. This is why we talked about it yesterday. It is an issue. Wait for the Taylor Trip. Oh, yeah. Well, I don't know if that's going to happen or be a factor for this week. It's not going to be a factor this week, but now Singletary, again, 48% rostered. And he had a 30 yard walkoff touchdown run last week and over time or two weeks ago and over time. But before that, he was averaging 2.9 yards per carry. The last two years with the Giants, 3.9, 3.7 yards per carry, it's probably not going to light it up for you, but a feature back. It's hard to pass up. If Skataboos out Singletary or or Jonah Coleman, Coleman, I might take Singletary. I'm honestly approaching it as if Skataboos is going to be out at this point. Like, there's no positive science right now. Well, I think you can wait through Friday's practice and find out what the deal is. I do see. He's screaming to your waiver wire to go get absolutely. All right. Malachi feels it's kind of a desperation play. He had a good game last week and he's and Jason McCarthy has not targeted Isaiah likely. He has targeted Malachi fields and Malik neighbors, obviously. However, likely he was playing through an injury two weeks ago. So hopefully he's healthier now. You guys have him as a top six tight end. It's going to be hard to get away from Isaiah likely. Although the Eagles are giving up the third fewest fantasy points of tight ends, they haven't really faced that good a competition, Loveland and week one when Loveland was bad. On the other side of the ball, Barkley is like, should be great when he's on the field. He's a big risk. He's about 20th in the rankings right now and lemon is gets you the updated rankings on lemon. He is 31st for Jamie 40th for Dave and 27th for Heath. Wow. Sit lemon for you, Dave. Very worried about Joe Milton completing passes further than like eight yards downfield. His completion rate was awful in his starts and meaningless NFL games. It was awful in college on throws of 10 plus area. But usually his throws in college were like bombs or little short throws. There was not a lot of in between. And by the nature of deep balls, those are going to be completed a lot anyway. I don't expect him to suddenly be well versed in this offense, being with the Eagles for two weeks. It's his third team in three seasons. Young players like this when they're on their third team, they're typically not very good. I think the Eagles are hoping for Milton giving them a spark on just being able to run with the ball and give them a little bit of that flavor that they lost with Tanner McKee. And then maybe hopefully connecting with some deep shots. I don't know. I mean deep shots. Mackay Lemon is going to get how many deep ball targets that I know that's not a game. But Joe Milton's game is not Joe Milton's game is not these short little, you know, timed throws. That's Tanner McKee's game. Right. Yeah. I'm really I'm I'm nervous about both Goddard and lemon. Maybe I've got lemon a little too low. I can't do it. I'd see myself moving him as high as like Heath has him, right? I'd be surprised if he was that good. - All right, Jamie has him, I think it's at 31st. Goddard's 15th for both of you guys. Some chat questions. Singletary or Coker, half PPR. - Singletary of Scataboo's out. And if he's not, you can go Coker. - And if Scataboo's in, would you start Scataboo or Coker? - Scataboo. Scataboo. - Singletary or Ollie Gordon of Scataboo's out. Ollie, Ollie, Oxen, for you otherwise. - Singletary or Woody, Mark's. That's a good one. - Mark's if Scataboo plays. This is another one where it just depends on you. - No, and then Mark's and Singletary in a pretty similar situation, right? - No, I think Mark's is the lead back though. And he's got the chart. - No, but I'm saying if Scataboo's out. - Oh, it's Singletary. - I think I might go Mark's. - I would go Singletary. Why would you go Mark's? - Well, I think, you know, look, you could project them for the same workload, right? - Great. - And then, you know, the matchups are, I guess, favoring Singletary, but I feel like Singletary's. - I don't know, even though if that's true, I just look at the Texans in their run game and I think it's one of the worst in the league. - Giants have one of the worst run games in the league until overtime of the Texans game. You could say maybe that's because they had Winston and they changed to McCarthy to open up their run game. - Right, that is exactly what I would say. - Okay. - All right, fine, Singletary, over Mark's if Scataboo's. - That's a time of class. - I'm glad you're talking about though. You're talking about volume for somebody that hasn't exactly been great. - Thank you. - Goddard, O'Connor or Dolsich? - Dolsich. - Yeah. - You can convince me on Dolsich. - Yeah. - McCarthy or Stafford? - Stafford. - Stafford. Lemon, Valle or Malik Washington? - Lemon. - I think I have the other guys higher. I think I go Valle if Tyson doesn't play and watch it. - I think I would too. - Yeah. - I Valle and watch it in back-to-back is like high-end, wide-recieve for fours. - All right, folks, why am I wearing this shirt? I can't tell you, but dorded or sock fundraiser now. Adam has school pictures today. - That's funny. - I'm the picnic blanket in the school play. - I have a meeting, Adam is a meeting at the school because his kid brought Adam sock to show and tell. I love that one. And maybe Johnny Airport is piloting Adam in his new shirt and Dave in the CBS private jet to South Bend, Indiana this weekend. - Oh, yeah. Jager has got it. - Thank you, Jamie. You should feel bad for us if it's horrible, Malik. - It really is, like-- - For a while. - So I got to ask this on a radio show yesterday. If they lose tomorrow or lose Saturday, yeah tomorrow, and finish, they get knocked down whatever spot in the playoff rankings. Or get knocked out, excuse me. But we're not in, I forget the way it was going away. - Will they be top 10 or top one? - Do they deserve to be in if Tony's ready to play in the playoffs with one loss? - It depends on how many losses they have. - Well, in your scenario, if they have one loss, that means they won the ACC and they're in. - Right. - So-- - Maybe it was without-- - I would be, they go 11 and one in the regular season, lose in the ACC championship. - Maybe that's why it was pretty good. - Tony's back, I would say no, they don't deserve it. Miami should not be in if they're a two loss team, in my opinion. They only have one good win. But yeah, if you don't know who Malik Itoni is, he's probably the second best player in the country. - You can make the argument he's the first best player in the country. - Yeah, I mean, I think Jeremiah Smith is definitely a better player, but fine. And he's out for a while for the Hurricanes, just a bummer. But we're still gonna win. We're still gonna beat Notre Dame. - I like it, I like that unbiased take. Listen man, if we're a great team, we win that game. - I know he has not related to Cadarius Tony. Talk to you tomorrow, talk to you on the mail back in 27 minutes on Fantasy Football today. (upbeat music) - Paramount Podcasts. - One of America's top true crime podcasts, 48 hours is back with a new season. - This is not scripted folks, this is real life. - And so is the official after show podcast, post-border, follow and listen to 48 hours wherever you get your podcasts.