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Not a ton of AFC home games, so we had to borrow a few from the NFC, but AFC involved matchups. So Green Bay at New England, Buffalo at Minnesota, Cleveland at New Orleans, Houston at the Chargers, Jets at the Chiefs, Detroit at Miami, Dallas at Indianapolis. Good morning, Heath. Good morning, Adam. How we doing? How we feeling? It's Thursday. It's Week 9. What a crazy day of quarterback news yesterday, huh? And yeah, we're probably not done yet. So just hold on to your hats. Superflex waivers were insane, I assume. I haven't checked my waivers yet this morning. But it's, you know, it's exciting. That's why Superflex is so much fun. So I did a solo podcast yesterday talking about the four situations, the Ravens situation, the Cardinals. I mean, I included the Cardinals, so I guess that'd be five. But the Browns, the Eagles, and who was the other? The Seahawks. Sorry. Yes. And I gave you my priorities and everything. I encourage you to go listen to it. But who would you, like, who, if any, are you excited about in the two-quarterback league world? So I think if you're just talking about this week, then my favorite starter from the group is Drew Locke. He gets, did he get to play the Cardinals before, too? 27 points against them. Right. So it's, it's Arizona's defense. That's why. But he's not a long-term starter. So from a rest of season perspective in Superflex, I spent more on Gardner Minshew. Now, I don't think he's going to necessarily be starting in the fantasy playoffs. It's probably Carson. But he, he should be a decent QB, too, for maybe the next month. Okay. And yeah, I, I'm like pretty much excited about Drew Locke, but I am a little worried that he's got this elbow injury. So got to keep that in the back of your mind. We may get, we may later in the week get a replacement for a replacement. Yeah. Because they legitimately don't sound like they're 100% sure that he's able to play. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So tonight we've got Jacksonville and Baltimore. We've got Baylor. We have Basial Tootin questionable. We also have Baltimore cornerback Nate Wiggins questionable in this game. But I think people want to know more about the Jaguars running back situation. So just real quick, we did the whole preview yesterday. We talked about Chris Rodriguez, but to put a little bow on it, if Tootin plays, where do you rank him? If Tootin's out, where do you rank Chris Rodriguez? If Basial Tootin plays, start him, period. He's a high-end RB2. I think I'm a little lower maybe than consensus was the beginning of the week. I've got him at RB14 right now. This is a game where, where they really shouldn't need him. So if they play him, I'm going to assume he's okay. And I'm going to start him. Chris Rodriguez, if Tootin was out, is probably going to be closer to the RB20-ish type range. My big concern, like I think he'll probably be successful, but I do have some concern that it's like a Mike Washington type game where, yeah, he gets all of the rushing work, but if he doesn't score a touchdown, he's probably not going to catch many passes. And it's not that great for fantasy. So he'd be much, he'd be lower than Tootin for sure, but still a top 24 guy. Would you start Chris Rodriguez or Zay Flowers? Oh, Rodriguez. Okay. So Fagnano is going to start tonight and that will be his last for now, his last game as the starting quarterback for the Ravens because they are acquiring Jacoby Brissett again. Yeah. Congratulations. And we're not going to get into all that stuff today because I did it yesterday on the, on, on the solo pod. Please take a listen to that players. We love players to avoid. Jamie will be on shortly, but we'll start with Heath and your players that we love. Now you, you went risky here and I appreciate that. So you went with, you know, I I'm just trying to give the chat somebody's name to type in the chat repeatedly. Every time I talk besides Roshan Johnson. So let's just do it again. Only these guys are going to be better than Roshan Johnson. I think this matchup is absolutely perfect for Ashton Jenty. I'm in full PPR leagues. I'm going right back to starting him again. And I'm not alone. He look, he's a top 24 for all three of us as well as sports line. I think there's a possibility that he gets a few more carries. And last week was more of a, come on, get your act together type of punishment. But more importantly, this is a game where the Raiders are 10 point underdogs. The 49ers are much better against the run than they are against pass, catching running backs. Chasing the score in this game means more passes. More passing means more, more Ashton Jenty. That's the one area he's actually been very good. He was good last week when they threw it to him. He's great in space. Get him in space. Start Ashton Jenty. Okay. You want a fun Jenty stat? Fun Jenty stat. Yes. Eight running backs against the 49ers have scored at least five PPR points with just the receiving totals alone. And Jeremiah love RJ Harvey and Rashad white with just the receiving totals. 12.9 PPR points against 49. All right. You also like Tyler Algier. Now again, these are guys that are not like slam, dunk must starts there. It doesn't do any good to say that I love somebody that everybody's starting, right? Yeah. So I'm giving, giving something different. I just think with the current state of the Cardinals running back room, it's going to be all Algier, which means it's going to be Algier most likely for the three quarters of the game that are garbage time, like every Arizona game. And they showed the Gardner Minshew showed in, in limited action last week, he will dump the ball off to a Tyler Algier. I think he might catch four or five passes in this game. Have close to 15 rush attempts in this current environment. And really the reason I almost put for my avoids, just like seven different teams backfields, because that's where we are. Like you don't want to start this week. I don't think, I think Jamie, I'll make this case, either one of the jets running backs. I don't want to start either one of the Seahawks running backs. I don't want to start either one of the Vikings running backs. I don't want to start any of the chargers or saints running backs. Like that's, that's kind of where we are. Right now. And so if you've got a guy, that's probably going to see more than 15 touches, I'm going to start. All right. So we had a question. You, you, we had a Braylon Allen or Tyler Algier and you've, you're going to tell Roger. I'm going to the Roger. All right. And your last guy is Jalen Coker against the Broncos. Yes. I, one of the first things I do when a team's facing new England or Denver is look at which one of their good wide receivers gets to go to the slot more. And so far this season, that's been Jalen Coker. I think he's been in the slot about 47% of his routes. I'm expecting to see him. I'm expecting to see Ted Aroua McMillan to get the full pets and Sartan experience, which is going to mean more targets for Jalen Coker. 15 is a little high, but he is still inside of my top 20. I think the Panthers are going to be playing from behind in this game. There'll be plenty of Chuba Hubbard rushes, but Coker will lead the team in targets and receiving fantasy points. We're going to talk about that game tomorrow, but you know, so far this year, there really just hasn't been a must-start receiver that has not done well. Against the Broncos, unless you say like Rishi Rice in week one, where he was kind of like gimpy and Michael Wilson. But I said, if McMillan goes out and has a good game, then we're going to have to probably reevaluate this matchup. Jamie, the players you love this week, you got Jonah Coleman. We got a couple of chiefs against the jets and we got Greg Dulcich at Detroit. Coleman started the week, you know, excited for his opportunity here against the Panthers. Hopefully he takes advantage of it. You saw, or there was a comment yesterday that Sean Payton said, JK Dobman, still a big part of what we do. So who knows that there's a little bit of a shift in touches coming from what we saw last week, which I hope not, but obviously Coleman was, was amazing last week and, you know, took over the RJ Harvey role and, and really took over the entire backfield. So Panthers are top three and most fantasy points allowed to opposing running backs. And just everybody that has faced them recently has just completely destroyed them. So I hope that that continues for Jonah Coleman. Who else? I gave you a patch of moms. Yeah. And rice twofer. I think in the case, of my homes, what we've seen from him, I want to get the exact numbers. Uh, when he's had Rashi rice on the field. So that includes the, uh, the, the, the 30 seconds or whatever it was, he was on the game in the game against the Raiders. Uh, but when he's had Rashi rice on the field, he has scored 26 point. He's averaging 26.9, 26.6 fantasy points with rice healthy or playing. And yes, this year, uh, just in some capacity this year. So hopefully rice stays healthy. He takes advantage of this defense, which I don't think is going to be very good from the Jets. I know that they've earlier in the season shown that they could limit opposing passing games, but lately it's been completely miserable. Drake May, Malik Willis, Kirk Cousins all scored at least 29.9 fantasy points against them. And then for Rice, right, that's the other one I gave you. I gave you Dolphs. Both. You gave us four. You went crazy. Oh, maybe because I gave you the start of the week. Why don't you do Dolsic? Yeah, Dolsic obviously gets the dream matchup that we love. So taking on this Detroit defense has been fantastic, and I hope that he takes advantage of it. He's done well the last two games with at least 9.3 PPR points each of his past two outings, so it appears like he's a part of this, you know, passing attack for Malik Willis. But really it's about just the matchup here, as we know. This is just a situation where the Lions allowed Titans to score at least 13.3 PPR points all but one game this season, and so I'm hopeful that that's where Dolsic kind of gets to. So we had this once earlier. I'm not going to make the layup comparison with like I did with Darren Waller, but Dolsic just has a great opportunity here, and anytime, you know, there's so beat up. I mean, they have, you know, potentially three linebackers missing the game this week. Brian Branch seems like he's going to come through the concussion protocol. Just keep an eye on that, and I'm sure Wanham will eventually as well. Both guys when they collided last week, so just something to keep an eye on there, but Jack Campbell's not going to play. I just don't think that their defense is going to eventually ever become a team that stops tight ends completely, and so not a slam dunk for Dolsic, but certainly a great streamer. Right. I don't think he's top 12 for anyone. He's 14th for Jamie, 19th for Dave, 20th for Heath. Sports line has him, what? 12th. 12th? Okay. Yeah, so if you need a tight end this week, go for it with Greg Dolsic, and all right, let's get two players that we're going to sit this week, and Heath, you can start. Let's see. Oh, sorry. Let me recap in case you missed it. Jamie says start Jonah Coleman, Patrick Mahomes, Rasheed Rice, Greg Dolsic. Heath says Ashton Gentry, Tyler Algier, and Jalen Coker. You don't have to run away from them. Heath says you should run away from Mike Washington Jr., Stephon Diggs against the Rams, and Jalen Waddell at Atlanta. Yeah, and I think the Washington one I pretty much explained in the Ashton Gentry discussion. I don't think Washington's going to have 25 carries. I don't think he's really going to be used in the passing game. I don't think the Raiders are going to run the ball anything close to successfully. They'll be chasing the score in the second half, and it will be Ashton Gentry time. Diggs is not the number one wide receiver on the Commanders, even with Terry McLaurin out. We saw Antonio Williams led the team in snaps and routes and targets, and I think that probably only grows, and it's not going to be a great game offensively for him anyway. So if you have to start him as a number three, it's fine, but I don't really want to. And then Jamie says Jonah Coleman started the week. I agree 100%. I think it might be a game where both of the Denver running backs are okay. The Panthers run defense is just that bad. So is Bo Nix. I know that he did throw a screen pass that won the Broncos the game last week, but I think he's thrown for more than 222 yards once all season, and this should be a game where they're playing from a lead and don't have to throw a bunch. So I don't want to start Jalen Waddle either. Or Bo Nix. Jalen Waddle. All right. We'll talk about that game tomorrow because you're the low guy on Jalen Waddle, and his target share has been good, but it hasn't really translated so much. He did catch a touchdown last week. Here's just a fun matchup note because actually, I like Waddle this week. Seven receivers in the last four games against the Panthers, at least 12.7 PPR points. They're just bleeding fantasy points to the position. I don't think he played a full snap share last week, as I recall, and he was injured. He practiced in full yesterday, so he'll be an interesting one for sure. I look forward to a lot of questions about him on Sunday morning. Join us Sunday morning, by the way, at 8.30, 8.30 a.m. to 9.30 a.m., and then 12.15 p.m. to 1.00 p.m. Eastern for two editions of Start or Sit. We're just answering your questions. YouTube.com slash Fantasy Football Today. Ask a bunch of questions. We'll give you a bunch of answers. Again, 8.30 to 9.30 a.m. Eastern before the Europe game, and then 12.15 to 1.00 p.m. Where is the Europe game this week? I don't even remember. Where is it? It's in Spain? Okay. Yeah. All right. Good. I can definitely sing that. All right. Let's go to Jamie's Voids for today. And they are. It'll start with Caleb Williams. You know, he's playing amazing, and it's just not translating into great fantasy production at times, because when they get inside in the red zone, green zone, gold zone, purple zone, whatever they call it these days, it's all DeAndre Swift. I'm nervous about this call. Like, he's playing so well. He's playing amazing. He's played five games so far this season. Only two of them have been over 20 fantasy points. Yeah, he's not running. You know who else is playing amazing? It's Tampa Bay's defense. And Tampa Bay's defense. Yeah, they've allowed two quarterbacks this year to go over 20 fantasy points. Can you name them, Adam? No. No, I can't. I'm not even going to waste time. Deshaun Watson. Uh-huh. Obviously. And Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, of course. Those are the only two to go over 20 fantasy points. Now, again, last week, four interceptions against Michael Penix. I think that was a byproduct of the weather more than anything else, but they are playing very well, like Keith said. So it's not exactly an easy matchup here. Brees Hall, we don't know how this is going to look from a split standpoint, you know, just in terms of how this offense will operate. Frank Reich sort of not really committing to Brees Hall, but also committing to Brees Hall. I don't know how this is going to go. I don't know if Brees Hall is a trade candidate, and they're going to limit his naps because of this. I don't really want to play either one. Heath talked about this before. Like, it's just a potential nightmare. And then you have the Chiefs defense, which is very good against opposing running backs. So if you can avoid it, avoid it. But I still would start Brees over Braylon just because of, I think, his role in the passing game. Like, if you're going to, you know, logically try to figure this out, Braylon Allen probably plays more on rushing downs than Brees Hall does. Brees Hall probably plays more on passing downs. I think they're chasing points. Goal line work probably goes to Braylon Allen, but I have no rhyme or reason to how that could potentially go. And then Michael Wilson, I think, was the third guy I gave you. Playing through two broken ribs, playing against Seattle. I do think that Gardner Minshew is going to lean on him quite a bit because there might not be anybody else aside from Trey McBride because of Kendrick Bourne being out. But Seattle's great, and they're coming off a loss, and I think they're going to be very angry and beat up on the Cardinals. They already did so earlier in the season. Yeah. Would you start Michael Wilson or, like, let's look at some of the, you know, he. I'd start Waddle over Wilson, for example. How about Ashton Gentee and Tyler Algier or Michael Wilson? Gentee, Wilson, Algier for me. I think that's what I have as well. Okay. All right. And full PBR. Well, Sundays should be a fun day of NFL football and the NFL on CBS is back in action. With some of the league's hottest quarterbacks. The early window features Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs hosting the Jets and Bryce Young leading Carolina against Bo Nix and the division leading Broncos. Or later, some will see Justin Herbert and the Chargers against C.J. Stroud and the Texans. JB and the guys kick things off at noon Eastern with the NFL today. We'll see you Sunday with the NFL on CBS and streaming on Paramount+. And just a quick stat from our Douglas Clawson, who is the best researcher of all time. Patrick Mahomes has more playoff wins than passing touchdowns of 20 or more air yards since the Tyreek Hill trade. That is insane. He's fantastic. Yeah, I mean, he would much rather have playoff wins. He threw a little shot at Bo Nix for screen passing his way to a big game. Let's not forget the Emmett Johnson pass. That was basically Patrick Mahomes' big play. And T. Higgins, the connection between T. Higgins and Joe Burrow right now is insane. Burrow and Higgins have the best EPA per target among duos with 40% of the NFL. 40 plus attempts this season. Good stuff. And if you want to start Bo Nix, ask yourself, is he going to be trailing? Bo Nix leads the NFL 9.1 yards per attempt when down 1 to 8 points in the fourth quarter since 2000. Best record by any. He has the best comeback record by any quarterback since 1970 with a minimum of 20 games when trailing at any point. Blah, blah, blah. It's amazing. Great stuff from Douglas there. 9.1 yards per attempt in the fourth quarter when trailing. Is that accurate? By 1 to 8 points. That's incredible. Yeah. Because with that included, with that included, he's averaging 6.4 yards per attempt for his career. Oh, that's bad. He knows when to turn it off. Just awful. Until then. All right, we'll take a quick break and come back with the news and one question for each game. One of America's top true crime podcasts, 48 Hours, is back with a new season. This is not scripted, folks. This is real life. And so is the official after show podcast, Postmortem. Follow and listen to 48 Hours wherever you get your podcasts. This episode is brought to you by Whoop. 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McKee cannot throw downfield at all. His one extended appearance was week 18 of 2024, and he was 21 of 24 passing for like 210 yards, I think. He was great. I watched the tape of that game. I watched the tape of his semi-extended performance last year in week 18. And just remember, he was playing against Bill's backups in 2024. And last year when he struggled, he was playing with his own backups because the Cowboys pulled all their starters and faced the Giants. Yeah, he's more talented than McKee. There's no question. But he's a third string quarterback for a reason. And he's a. More likely, he's probably going to run five more times per game than McKee did. Yeah. And Sam Darnold out this week with Ribbon Quad. I'm so stupid for not picking up Drew Locke. I said it over and over that I was going to do it, and I forgot to do it. I just don't deserve it. I don't deserve Drew Locke. Anyway, Drew Locke is trending to start this week. His next two matchups, if you play. If Drew Locke gets two starts before the bye, it's against Arizona and the Raiders. They're both bottom five against. Quarterbacks. And he scored 27 points against the Cardinals in week two. He did. Christian McCaffrey missed practice. So that's only the first practice of the week. Obviously, make sure Kalen Black is rostered in your league. Josh Jacobs is saying that he assumes he won't miss any games. That doesn't mean he won't, but that's the way he's approaching it. Saquon Barkley missed practice. Not a surprise. Donovan Knight missed practice. Let's see. David Montgomery out this week. Would you start Chris Rodriguez or Woody Marks if Tootin's out? Rodriguez. Definitely Rodriguez in nine and a half. Full at probably Rodriguez still. They're 10-point favorites, and he just scores touchdowns. Like, this could be a two-touchdown game for him. Todd Bowles talked about Kenneth Gainwell being the 1B in the Tampa Bay backfield. So we're back to the preseason? I don't think we're downgrading Bucky Irving. I think he called him the 1A in preseason, right? So now he's the 1B. Okay. Travion Henderson missed practice, still with an illness. Cam Scadley. That's a weird one, right? Yeah, yeah. I saw. I think it was somebody in the Patriots media suggest that maybe he's a trade candidate, and they're keeping him out. Interesting. Cam Scadaboo missed practice. Make sure Devin Singletary is rostered, although it seems like the Giants have a decent chance to get Jonathan Taylor. Saints running back C.J. Donaldson was limited. I think he's going to. I would assume he's going to play this week, and that's not insignificant because last week or two weeks ago when they played, he left early, and Alvin Kamara had a massive increase in routes run. He became their third down back. That probably. He goes away if Donaldson plays. Kyle Menangai missed practice, but it was just a walkthrough as they played on Monday night, but he was listed as a DNP. And Brian Robinson Jr. could be back this week. Wide receiver news. A.J. Brown missed practice. Emeka Buka missed practice. Jordan Tyson practiced. He could play this week. Garrett Wilson is in the concussion protocol. We're going to break that game down soon. Jets at Chiefs. Jalen Waddell practiced in full. So did Pat Bryant. Dontavion Wicks and Devontae Smith missed practice. I forgot to mention with the A.J. Brown news, Matt Hollins was limited. He could come off IR this week. In three games without A.J. Brown, Matt Hollins had a 9.5% target share, which is terrible, but then 34.6% and 21.1%. Traylon Burks missed practice, and Mike Evans and Debo Samuel missed practice. Debo unlikely to play this week. Evans has a chance to play. Demarcus Robinson could be on the way back, too, and Christian Kirk as well. Tight end news. Colby Parkinson did not practice. Terrence Ferguson has 21 days to be activated. They opened up his practice window. David Njoku was limited. He has 21 days to be activated, and Jake Ferguson missed practice. Some teams getting healthier on the offensive line. Maybe the Saints, maybe the Dolphins, definitely the Dolphins, and maybe the Seahawks. And defensively, the Jets had zero pass rush last week without David Bailey. He was limited in practice. Micah Parsons' practice, I don't think he's going to play this week. Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett, same thing. Houston looks like they're going to get one of their safeties back this week, maybe two, and that was something that occurred to me. J.J. McCarthy played so well against the Texans. They were missing. Both of their starting safeties, they're definitely getting Jalen Hatchery back. Here comes Herbert. Yeah, well, no. But just for the Texans' defense, and just for J.J. McCarthy, if you're thinking about that. And big news, Jalen Watson, Rams' starting cornerback. They got him from the Chiefs. He was on the Chiefs last year. He is out for the season. And Trent McDuffie missed practice. He's got a back issue. So this could be a depleted Rams defense that faces Washington, although McDuffie has a chance to play this week. Also, the Cowboys have two, two safeties in the concussion protocol. All right, let's do one question for each game quickly here, and then we'll get to the game previews. Green Bay is at New England. Can you trust a Patriots wide receiver in this game, Heath? Who's playing? I don't think A.J. Brown's going to play. If there's no A.J. Brown and no Hunter Henry and no Matt Collins, then I will start Demario Douglas as a number two wide receiver. Okay. If A.J. Brown plays, he's probably going to be close to wide receiver 24. If Matt Collins is back and A.J. Brown's out and Henry's back, then I probably don't want to start any of them. Jamie, Buffalo is at Minnesota. Big time game here. Starter sit, DJ Moore. Only three receivers have scored more than 12.6 PPR fantasy points against the Vikings. Low end number two receiver. I think you saw last week that Jameson Williams still had a very productive game and Amon Ross St. Brown could have scored a touchdown. It's very difficult to bench somebody that's attached to Josh Allen with the way that he'll play off script and have an opportunity to, you know, be, you know, find some holes, I think, in some of the blitzes that they do. So not a slam dunk. I think if this was any other team with the game that Moore just had and the fact that he's healthy, he'd probably be closer to 15, if not maybe even close to the top 12. So just building a little bit of caution here. So hopefully he does well, but I still start. Last week on Reality vs. Fantasy, Scott Turner was talking to Dave about the Lions-Vikings game and he said, you know, if you can protect the quarterback, you can get some chunk plays, some big plays like over the top against the Vikings. And he was right. It happened with Jameson Williams and then it really happened almost again with St. Brown who just had the touchdown overturned. But you're not going to get a ton of opportunities, but you can hit on. Those aren't really chunk plays, though. Well, the Jameson, not the touchdown to Jameson Williams. Yeah. The deep ball. Yeah, yeah. The deep ball was. And then St. Brown's was fairly deep, if I remember. It was over the top. It got behind the defense. Cleveland at New Orleans. Heath, is Chris Olave the only must-start player in this game? I mean, that depends on how you want to define must-start. I think Judkins and Fannin are both, both starts. So, are they must-starts? Not if you have somebody better. But Fannin, especially if Shador's playing quarterback, I think I'll probably like him a little bit more. I'll feel more confident in his target share. Top 10 tight end for Fannin. Top 20 running back for Judkins, but not quite must-starts. Okay. And Chuck's a top 12 quarterback for me. Okay. So, we have a lot of fringy starts there. I guess I wanted to know if you had doubt, because I think when I did the rankings before the Watson news, Fannin was like, 11th for everyone. Did you downgrade him? It sounds like you may have upgraded him with Shador. I haven't moved him, but I would, I would not downgrade him because Shador's starting. Houston's out to Chargers. Jamie, Ladd-McConkie or Woody Marks? Who do you like better? Marks. McConkie, as we talked about Sunday night, if you did not see the game, we saw a 40, 54-yard Hail Mary off a deflection to McConkie, and that helped, and get to 86 yards receiving. So, the Texans defense, I know has been bad. They're top three and most fantasy points allowed to opposing wide receivers. You just cannot trust the Chargers passing game right now. So, hopefully Marks with the workload is going to be productive. He has not had huge games. He's had at least 17 total touches in each of the last three games. One of those was Montgomery left. But in the two games that Montgomery's been out, it's been at least 19 total touches. And just kind of hovering in that 10-point-per-game range. This will hopefully be one of his best games. Jets are at the Chiefs. Who is the best jet to start, Heath? No idea. If Garrett Wilson's out, then it's probably going to be Omar Cooper. I think amongst the wide receivers, the status of Delane for the Chiefs will matter a lot to me. Because if Delane's out, then I think Adonai Mitchell might be able to do what he did last week. If Delane's in, I think he'll be on Mitchell most of the time. And Cooper will have the better game. But if it's Wilson if he plays, and if Wilson's out, then it's probably going to be Cooper. Good news for Delane. He was limited in practice on Wednesday. All right. Do you think if Wilson is out, are Cooper and Mitchell near the top 24? In the top 24? They'll be between 24 and 30 for me. Detroit's at Miami. Ollie Gordon coming off a bad game. A lot of touches, Jamie, but no catches. I feel like it's not hard to see. it's not hard to see the same type type of thing for Ollie Gordon, start or sit? He's a start a little bit lower this week than he was last week for me because, like you said, that was the game script that you fear. So still getting opportunities, but that trap-back type scenario of just not doing anything, what we love in fantasy. The Lions' run defense is good, but again, they're so beat up. So depending on who's healthy for them, aside from Campbell, who's not going to play, that could really just limit this defense and hopefully he just continues to get work. But he had scored a touchdown in four straight games. You kind of just hope that he falls into the end zone. That'll save his production. Do you have Ollie Gordon or Derek Henry higher? I have Henry higher, but they feel like the same type of player to me. Yeah, I've got Gordon. I have Gordon. I will have Rodriguez over both. Right. Dallas is at Indianapolis. I don't know why I couldn't come up with a good question for this game, but how about Keenan Allen or Ryan Flanoy? That's it. I will go with Keenan Allen. Yeah, I actually like Keenan Allen quite a bit. He's playing very well when he's not playing Minnesota. And this is the only guy that Daniel Jones is leaning on consistently. I'm sorry, not the only guy he's leaning on. He's leaning on Tyler Warren. The only guy he's producing consistently for Daniel Jones in this passing attack. So unless they make a quarterback change, I think Keenan Allen's got an opportunity here to take advantage of a defense that's been very forgiving to opposing receivers. Now that being said, if Pickens is out for whatever reason, it's Flanagan. So how about this then? Like, how comfortable do you feel starting Jonathan Taylor as of right now, Wednesday morning, Thursday morning? Based on Ian Rappaport's report this morning, very comfortable. Yeah. What did Ian Rappaport report? He said that they're struggling with trading him at this point because they're not getting the compensation that they want and they really don't want to trade him. Giants are being too cheap. Good. Thank you, Giants. All right, here we go. Stat that probably won't impact your start or sit decisions. The Packers allow the fourth fewest big pass plays, fourth fewest deep ball completions in the NFL, so they've been good at taking away the thing that Drake May is so good at, but May is a top five quarterback this week. Patriots, the Patriots offense, third best since week four. The Packers defense is third best. Third best since week four. How about that? I don't even think I had those two data points. I didn't even put them together until just now. So the third best offense since week four and the third best defense since week four going head to head. Yeah, this is an interesting game, Jamie. How do you see it playing out? High scoring, low scoring because the defenses have been pretty solid and the offenses are explosive. What do you think? I think the number is pretty close. You know, 46 and a half makes sense. You can see this game being low 20s for both of them. I'm starting both quarterbacks. They both played very well. You know myself. I matched that with Jordan Love. It's now 21 of 32 career games where he's over 30 pass attempts. He's been at least 20 fantasy points. I think he'll be right around there, you know, maybe 22. I don't think it's a huge game for him like we saw last week. You have to start both receivers. I know the secondary has played well at times, but, you know, the amount of targets that both Christian Watson, hopefully he's 100% or at least close to it with the rib injury, but Watson and Matthew Golden are just awesome. Tucker Craft is definitely a top 10 tight end with his production. I know it's not always pretty, in terms of how many targets or routes run, et cetera, that he gets, but he's producing, so you just continue to roll with it. And then Jacobs is just, again, similar situation. He's producing despite the inability to run. You know what you're getting from Ramondre, especially if Henderson is out. And really he's the only skill player for the Patriots that you start. Now their tight end defense, the Packers' tight end defense, is fantastic. So I wouldn't say, oh, Henry's out, go to Eli Raritan. I would be avoiding Hunter. I would be avoiding Hunter Henry if he played this week. So this is one of those matchups that you should fear. I mean, Kyle Pitts, Colson Loveland, and Sam Laporta. If I could do some quick math, it looks like they've combined for like 42 yards on nine targets. This team has been so good. Second best against tight ends, and no tight end is more than 37 yards against the Packers so far. Who's the best running back in this game, Jacobs or Stevenson? I got Ramondre. I would take Jacobs. Patriots' run defense, by the way, is starting to round into shape. They look pretty good, but we're not in it for efficiency with Josh Jacobs. No, neither guy, really. It's true. And then let's say you had Jonah Coleman. Would you start Coleman over Matthew Golden or Christian Watson? No. No. No concerns. I mean, you have them both in the top 12, but do you have concerns about Christian Gonzalez shutting one of them down? No. No. Okay. Matthew Golden, I mean, he's had two to three tough matchups, and he scored 15.5 points at Minnesota, 11.7 points at Tampa Bay, and going into last week, Carolina was seventh best against wide receivers. But that's not accurate at all. Watson, 32.7 points at Minnesota, 7.7 points at Tampa Bay. Yeah, impossible to get away from those guys. Tucker Kraft, on the other hand, I mean, he's got like a 17% target share, so 16.2%. It's pretty bad. Kraft or Dulcich? Still Kraft. Kraft. Raritan or Dulcich if Henry's out? Kraft. No. I said Raritan or Dulcich. I'd go Raritan. Dulcich would be a lot for me. Okay. Kraft or Hawkinson against Buffalo? Kraft. Kraft. All right, so we're starting Tucker Kraft. Jordan Love or Mahomes against the Jets? Mahomes. I've got Mahomes. Jordan Love or Drake May? May. May. Love or golf? Golf. Golf. Love or Daniels? Love. Love. Love or Stafford? Love. All right. Jacobs, Stevenson. Jonah Coleman. Who's your favorite? Jacobs. I've got Stevenson. Here's a chat question. Chase Brown or Ramondre Stevenson? Have them back-to-back. I'd go Brown. I have Ramondre. All right. Before I get to the other chat questions, let's just talk about the Patriots wide receivers, right? Because, Heath, you did lay it out. You said, if there's no A.J. Brown, if there's no Hunter Henry, you're going to like, if there's no Matt Collins, you're going to like Demario Douglas here. Efton Chisholm is a guy who gets about five or six targets when A.J. Brown. Efton Chisholm is out. Maybe, you know, you might get, I don't know, I would say eight fantasy points or something like that. Kyle Williams is just too tough to trust. He's like, hopefully he catches a long touchdown. I mean, it's really, we're going to start Golden and Watson. They're both top 12 wide receivers for me. Demario Douglas is the kind of the question mark. Chisholm could be a good what-the-heck flex. And maybe he'll score a touchdown. Yeah. But. I mean, look, we had basically no, no Hunter Henry last week. We had him for three targets in the first quarter. We had no A.J. Brown. We had no Matt Collins. Demario Douglas had three targets. He turned it into 76 yards and a touchdown, but he's tough to trust. However, his last four games, he scored 16.6 or more fantasy points in three of his last four games. I think we just feel like Drake May is going to get it done somehow with a couple of touchdown passes. Yeah. But we have no idea who he's going to throw those touchdowns to. You started. It could be a, it could be a screen to remand. Right. Like we saw the big play against Chicago. Like he's just, it's like Brock Purdy, you know, when he was dealing with all the injuries, like these, these good play, you're good quarterbacks, good play callers. They find ways to just make something happen with their receiving core. I think in the case of Douglas, like he feels very Stefan digs ish to me, you know, just like you're not going to get a lot of targets, but you're going to just at the end of the game, he's going to be productive because he's doing enough. And the quarterback is doing enough to make him productive. So I think he said it best about Douglas. I don't think he's a top. 24 guy because you just risk the, the lack of target volume comparatively to a lot of other guys. But you said at 16.6 PPR points or more in three of his last four games, that's hard to overlook. Okay. To the chat questions, craft or likely likely half PPR, Josh Jacobs or chase Brown Jacobs and a half. I will go chase still Ramond Ray or Rodriguez half PPR Ramond Ray Ramond Ray Ramond Ray or Kalon black. If McCaffrey's out. Ooh, that's a good one. You can't make that call. Oh, yeah, I can. Um, I'd probably go Ramond Ray still. Yep. I go Kalon black Ramond Ray. Like, I don't think this is going to come to fruition, but Corey Kiner has just been better than him. That's like this little, when you're talking about these types of decisions, but he's not going to play on passing downs. No, he's not. But Kalon black will, um, golden or I think golden or Parker Washington. Golden. Golden. Kincaid or, uh, or craft standard scoring craft, uh, craft Parker Washington. Oh no, sorry. Christian Watson or Jalen Coker half PPR Watson, Watson, Reese Hall or Josh Jacobs, Jacob, Mario Douglas or lad McConkie Douglas love or Malik Willis. Love love next game or commercial break commercial break. Correct. Correct. All right. We'll be right back with Buffalo at Minnesota. What's the storyline of the game there. Tell you after this, The Bills are at the Vikings and. And someone in our chat says, Minnesota will be proven frauds again. I think losing by like three points to Detroit doesn't really make you a fraud, just to say. But I was looking it up. The Chargers have run the second fewest plays from the five-yard line or closer this year. And the Vikings are the only team that have run fewer. It's insane. But the storyline that I want to see in this game is, will Kyler Murray throw the ball more? Assuming he's, I mean, we expect him to be the quarterback, right? He's good to go? No. No? Did he not practice yesterday? They did not practice yesterday. They have Monday games, so they practiced today. Oh, right, right. Okay. I mean, but we're ranking Kyler right now. We are ranking Kyler right now. Today, we will find out the story. And ideally, we hear the Vikings and the Raiders have agreed upon a trade for Kirk Cousins. Oh, you're saying this is a hypothetical. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I would like to see Carson Wentz play. For the sake of the receivers. Yeah. Yeah, me too. But Kyler Murray, only one game with more than 30 pass attempts. But this is what you do against the Bills. The Bills score on everyone. This will be their stiffest test. The Bills scored 36 points at Houston, 24 points against the Chargers, 26 points against New England, 34 points in regulation at the Rams, 36 points against Baltimore. Those are good defenses. They're not the Vikings, though. But I'd like to see Kyler Murray throw the ball a little bit more. The Vikings, they face two great defenses. And normal weather or great offenses in normal weather. If I can call Green Bay that Packer scored 22 points. Lions scored 19 points. Total here is almost the same as the previous game. Green Bay and New England. Heath, it's 45 and a half. Do you think we have a good game for fantasy here? Bills at Vikings are kind of a letdown. I think a bit of both. I think for the most part, you're just going to start like you're starting out and you're starting cook. You're starting most likely DJ more as a wide receiver, too. And I'd like to get a rate. Way from the rest of the bills. And Justin Jefferson's the only Viking that you want to start. What's their Hawkinson? He's he's a borderline top 12 guy for me. I got some Hawkinson thoughts. He's got one game this year with more than five targets. And Justin Jefferson did not play in that game. I think he's been pretty fortunate. Just keep. Yeah, the projections don't like him at all. I mean, he's so is Tucker Craft. This is. This is what the position is. I know. But but you're you know, you're talking about a team that rarely scores. You know, you're always talking about a quarterback that rarely features his wide receivers. So it's not like everybody's benefiting here. No, I. But that doesn't help Hawkinson. Oh, I. I agree. But it's a favorable matchup. And he's been productive. Like, it's not rocket science in this position. Like to say Eli Raritan, who's facing a brutal matchup, who did nothing after Hunter Henry left the game or Hawkinson or. But you have craft ahead of Hawkinson. They're the same guy. One's on a better offense. Craft could craft could do something after the catch. Hawkinson usually just falls down. How about Brenton? Strange or Hawkinson? Strange. Hawkinson's been more productive. Like, I'm just not going to overthink this. Yeah. Just like strange gets seven, eight targets most weeks. Not last week with three games in a row. He had seven, eight targets. And then actually those two guys, I think it's since the beginning of week four are top two in target. Per outrun rate. Hawkinson, one strange, two. I think it's week four. All right. So he's a tough call. Jeff Jefferson or the Packers receivers. Packers receivers, unless Wentz plays both Packers and you don't want to start a Vikings running back. Nope. You know, last week it was Aaron Jones was more past the eyeball test and was, was better than Jordan Mason. And if they're chasing points, I think it's going to be a bad Jordan Mason game. I actually actually think, you know, you say they're going to throw more. I think Kevin O'Connell is going to try and run the ball and keep Josh Allen off the field. I didn't say they're going to throw more. I, I, I, I used to hope they don't bring, they throw more. Yeah. I mean, we had, we had a similar type of defense that they were playing against last week and they scored what? 15 points. Here's the thing. Like we talked about the players to start and sit in this game. We don't sit quarterbacks against the Buffalo bills, especially one who just scored 23.9 fantasy points last week. I think we all know that he's playing. He's playing pretty poorly, Kyler Murray, but like, how do you feel about Heath? How you feel about Kyler this week? I don't want to start him. I don't know for sure that he's going to start and I don't feel confident if he does start, he's going to finish the game. And even if he plays all four quarters, I don't have confidence that he's going to play well. So he's not, he's not, I don't think he's in my top 18 quarterback. Um, I don't want to start him. And right. And honestly, like he needs to run. And if he's got a hamstring. Issue, he may not do that. So he's 21st for Jamie 17th for Dave. He's 20th for Heath. Um, Jordan Addison, you know, Jordan Addison had a quietly intriguing game last week. Three catches for 66 yards on eight targets. Would he be ahead of let's DeMario Douglas? Let's say no. If Wentz plays. Sure. I wouldn't put him ahead of Douglas unless the other Patriots guys are healthy, but he would definitely get a bump. If, uh, if Wentz is there. The Packer, the Vikings DST. Yeah. Yeah. Any quarterbacks are starting over Josh Allen. He's six for me. He's six for you. You start for now over him. Oh, Joe Fagnano. Uh, no. Okay. He's fifth for me. Ooh. Who do you have ahead of him? Burrow Purdy. Golf may. And the only one other than that for me is Lawrence. Okay. All right. Question from the chat. Vikings or Packers? DST. Vikings. Yeah. Vikings have not had a bad week this year. They've been great. No matter the matchup. Um, Algier, Charbonnet or a Minnesota running back. PPR. Algier. Algier. Aaron Jones or Rashad White? White. White. Addison or Denzel Boston? Addison. Uh, Boston for me. Jefferson or Parker Washington in non PPR? I would play Jefferson if, uh, I play Jefferson either way, but I would play Jefferson with confidence if it's once, uh, Buffalo with more confidence, if it's most fantasy points to wide receivers. I do think, you know, not that it matters too much, but I do think we're going to get a Christian Benford, Justin Jefferson showdown, Hawkinson or Dulcich. Adam loves it. Love it. Hawkinson. So does the following couch, if they continue following after the snap, like if they're just always right. I mean, he's shadowing, but the shadow is always like three yards behind. It's a very long shadow. It's late in the afternoon. Uh, yeah. As long as he's, I thought you got excited about like corners that were good and like might stop somebody. It's good. I mean, he's not, he's not going to stop Justin Jefferson. Well, he stopped. He didn't. No, he didn't do that. He covered, uh, Nico Collins fairly well. Nico still had a very good game though. Um, no, he's not going to stop Justin Jefferson, but I like a, I like a one-on-one showdown. I like that. Um, you know, I didn't like Peter Pan Heath. Yeah. No shadow. Okay. You went, you went a long way for that one. Yeah. I didn't, I wasn't a big Peter Pan fan either. So maybe he just had a good take. Parker Washington or DJ Moore. Washington. Uh, I, I think I'd go DJ. DJ Moore or, um, Jonah Coleman. Coleman, Coleman, Coleman, DJ Moore, Zay flowers more. Yeah. Give me, give me more Cleveland's at New Orleans. It's that of the game. Number one, no Kincaid. Oh, Buffalo is at Minnesota. Forgot about Dalton Kincaid. Didn't cater. Hawkinson Hawkinson Hawkinson Vikings are number one in fewest fantasy points. A lot of tight ends. Dalton Kincaid is number one. He's tied with Brock Bowers for the most 20 yard gains among tight ends. He leads all tight ends with four catches of 30 or more yards. The Vikings have allowed for 20 plus yard completions to opposing tight ends, but three of them were against the Packers in week one. So, uh, Dalton Kincaid gets his points basically through big plays. Not the easiest thing to do against the Minnesota Vikings. Um, I, I think we have so many of these guys and I just wanted to look at Kincaid's. Share that are just barely playing tight end. Um, like Bowers obviously is the most obvious. Kincaid's not as much. He's got 51% of his snaps have been out wide or in the slot. And I think so. It's like, I just wonder how the numbers versus tight ends compare against tight ends who don't play in line. Well, and then for a guy like, like Laporta last week against the Packers, the Vikings, he blocked more in this, in that game than he had in any other game this year. Right. And you're not going to have Dalton Kincaid block unless you want to have Josh Allen get sacked. I don't know. I mean, it wasn't that many more times. I mean, you can use him as a, as a seventh and eighth blocker in this game. Pass blocking, by the way, not run blocking, pass block. You might lose a few snaps from Kincaid just to help chip or block or whatever. Um, all right. Kincaid or Dulcich? Dulcich. I have Kincaid right now. I may change that. Jamie, Jamie may talk me into it. I loved Dulcich so much. this offseason. Kinkade, last one. Kinkade or Chiggo Conkwell? Kinkade. I'm going to go with Conkwell. Ready for Cleveland-New Orleans? Oh, yeah. You sure you didn't forget anybody? I hope not. James Cook. What's that? James Cook. Yeah, I'll start him. Cleveland's at New Orleans. Oh, yeah, actually, I forgot about Shakir. Jeez. Shakir or Addison? Shakir. Shakir. Shakir in full PPR. Addison everywhere else. 10 PPR points for Shakir? 11? 11. Come on. Give him his credit. It's four straight games with 11 PPR points. Yeah, lower it a little, right, with the Minnesota factor. Here we go. Stat of the game number one. Quinshawn Judkins has scored double-digit PPR fantasy points in two of seven games. Two of his last four. The Saints have allowed 11.4 or more fantasy points to 10 running backs, including three times in the same game to multiple running backs. Atlanta, Pittsburgh, and Las Vegas had two running backs score 11.4 or more PPR fantasy points against the Saints. This is an incredible matchup. Start or sit Quinshawn Judkins, Jamie? Start him. You know, not a top-15 guy because of just his profile, especially with Sampson playing. He doesn't catch the ball anymore. But I do think that they're going to lean on their ground game as much as they possibly can, especially with Shadur starting. If that's the case, but it's just a matchup. This is the number one team in most fantasy points allowed to the position, the Saints. So unless they just dramatically change their run defense coming off their bye week, this should be an opportunity for Judkins to have one of his better games and go over, I don't know, 20, but go over 15 PPR points for the third time in his last five hours. That would be nice. His route participation rate has absolutely plummeted. It's been like 25% since Dylan Sampson came back. So that's, that's troubling. Shadur Sanders, you know, at the helm here, Sean Watson's got two straight 300 plus yard games. So their, their passing offense hasn't really been that bad. But, you know, as whereas like I was like, yeah, I'll start Casey Concepcion as a flex most weeks is getting a lot of targets. I just don't want to even bother. I don't know what it's going to be, but I would think it would be better with Sanders. Just how he throws. I don't know. I mean, Watson, I don't know. I don't think it could get much better. Like they're 21st in gross passing yards per game. That's wildly exceeds my expectations for them. So I don't know. I'm not, I'm down. I'm personally downgrading the Browns passing game this week. I wouldn't for fanning. I mean, Saints have not been great against tight ends and fanning has just been very productive the last two weeks. So you saw it last year. This is why we loved fanning because Shador was leaning on him as much as possible as much as he possibly can. Now, granted, that was with a very stripped down receiving core. Now you have Denzel Boston and Concepcion. I just think that the way that Todd Monken's offense has leaned on tight ends historically and you're seeing it now with fanning. The fear for me with fanning coming in the season was Deshaun doesn't lean on his tight ends and that's completely changed in recent weeks, specifically the last two. So I'm hopeful that Concepcion just, you know, as a short area guy can be something similar and benefit from it. But I agree with you. I don't think you're starting him with confidence and Denzel Boston terrifies me because just the the big plays, I think, are gone. I'm trying to get this pulled up. We agree that this environment is a lot better for a quarterback than last year's environment. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And Watson's been better, but it like yards per attempt at 7.3 to 6.6. I don't, I mean, you can't like Watson's been a lot better than sugar Sanders was last year, but that doesn't mean sugar Sanders isn't going to be better than he was last year. All right. He's got Boston and Concepcion to throw to here. He's got it. Probably he's been in the league for a year. Yeah, he could be better. I just don't like, I don't know. I'm nervous about it. I don't want to. You don't want to start Concepcion in Boston. No, but I do want to start fan. I think Concepcion and Boston are borderline number three wide receivers as they always are. Right, basically. So I'm not, it's not a huge downgrade for me. Dylan Sampson, Dylan Sampson or a Jets running back? Both Jets. Yeah, both Jets. Okay. Although Sampson, you know, again, 10 PBR points or more each of the last two weeks. I think it's 13 catches over that span. So he's been, he's been involved. I think Sanders, again, not going to challenge downfield like Watson would. And so hopefully those dump off passes are there for him. And you just said it, Adam, three times this season, a pair of runs running back to over 11 PBR points. I could see that happening again, especially if the Saints score on the Browns. True. How about the Saints now? Would you start Dylan Sampson over the Saints running backs? Because they have a great matchup too. No. Camara, Sampson, Miller. I've got it. Camara, Miller, Sampson, but Miller and Sampson are a coin flip. Who do you think is going to lead the team in carries for New Orleans? Miller. Unless A-Champ plays, which doesn't seem likely. Yeah. Well, Miller had eight carries last week. Camara had six or two weeks ago. Their most recent game, they lost that game 16 to 10. Cleveland, 4.9 yards per carry allowed a running back. So good stuff there for the Saints backfield. It could be a sneaky good Kendra Miller game if like the Saints haven't played with a lead much this year. Yeah. So they would lead at all. Well, they beat the Giants in that McCarthy game, right? And he had 20 carries. Oh, yeah. They were, they were, they were very, yeah. Yeah. He didn't do much. He scored, he scored seven fantasy, nine fantasy points. He had two catches for zero yards. Anyway, all right. So those are the Saints running backs. I got a question here. Kendra, Kendra Miller. And Ben brings up a good point. This, this could be Audrey guesstimate getting involved too. You know, with Donald, Donaldson out, that could be the third running back up. I think Donaldson's going to play though, no? Yeah. Kendra Miller or Devin Singletary? Singletary by a mile if Skadaboo is out and I would go Singletary and PPR over Miller. I would go Miller over Singletary if Skadaboo plays. How are we approaching this passing game? I think Kendra Miller has played more games than Devin Singletary and Singletary has more games with 10 plus PPR points. Tyler Shuck. I think, Keith, you said you have the top 12. He is 11th for you, 15th for Jamie, 19th for Dave. Cleveland's been a tough matchup but they really haven't had a tough schedule. This is going to be one of the better fantasy quarterbacks they've faced all year. So, Shuck, the receivers, Jawan Johnson, scenario with Tyson in, scenario with Tyson out. Break it down, Heath. So, Shuck is a borderline starter and it's just a volume plays throwing 39 passes per game. I think, I mean, obviously Olave is a must start, maybe top five wide receiver. Vele is a high end wide receiver three if Tyson doesn't make his debut and I think you just stay away from both Tyson and Vele although Vele are last I looked Tyson was still available in like 35% of leagues so make sure he's rostered but I don't, if it's Tyson's first game I'm not starting either one and I'm not starting Jawan Johnson no matter who plays. Okay. Tyson, as of yesterday was last night 71% rostered. I'm sure that's gone up. Let's see if he's in the 80s yet. Jordan Tyson is 74% rostered in CBS Sports Leagues and the Cleveland DST is eh. Both of these DSTs are kind of eh. But they both have good matchups. Saints DST has a lot of high projections from sports line so. I get it. Yeah. Makes sense. This is a really toss-up game to me. Saints are favored by three. Which it's at it's in New Orleans, right? It is. So it's a complete toss-up game. I actually learned several years ago that's kind of a myth that the get the three points for the home team. You don't. You don't get that many and then depends on which team's at home. Like some teams don't really get many but much advantage at all. Some teams might get more like Seattle. So if this game was in Cleveland, who do you think would be favored? Cleveland by three. No. I think it would probably be close to a push. I think Cleveland's a better record, right? Cleveland's, yeah. Cleveland was in first place last week. Not anymore. So they would definitely be favored by at least three. It might be it might be like two. But I think Cleveland would definitely be favored if it was in Cleveland. Houston's at the Chargers. Oh. Sorry. Chat questions. All right. We got to go quick here. Judkins, Irving, Henry. Pick two. Right now it's Irving, Henry. Yeah. Irving's the easy one. I really want to say Judkins over Henry. I'm not there yet. I might do it. Judkins or Ali Gordon? Half PPR. Gordon. But that's close. Harold Fannin over Isaiah. No, you know what? I'm sorry. I go Judkins. Okay. Harold Fannin over Likely or Zay Flowers? Half PPR. Uh, Likely, Fannin, Flowers for me. I think that's where I will be also. Tyler Shuck, Caleb Williams, or C.J. Stroud? Uh, Shuck for me. Shuck for me. Dylan Sampson or Chris Rodriguez if Basil Tootin does play? Sampson. I'd go Sampson in full PPR only. Oh, yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I'm sorry. Um, Shuck or Malik Willis? Rodriguez will probably score a touchdown tonight regardless of Tootin or not. Shukr Malik Willis. i struggle with that one right now i have malik higher but if he's going to say shuck we just go consensus say shuck last one valet or flowers flowers flowers either way all right houston's at the chargers can trust any chargers in this game nope nope cj stroud start or sit jamie i would sit him uh the chargers the one thing that they have done well is limit opposing quarterbacks and it's not been an easy slate of opponents either you know so it's just i don't know if it's because teams run on them which is probably the case uh but their defense has actually played fairly well so i think the way stroud has performed it's hard to sit him he's been over 20 fantasy points i think in all but one game um but i would try to avoid him he's actually outside the top 15 for me i think you just get that group of quarterbacks like shuck and malik willis and um i would actually start bro nix over him i think there's just a higher ceiling for him this week uh so i'm a little bit concerned about stroud two teams this year have seen fewer than 200 pass attempts against them they are the chargers and 200 for the season chargers and dolphins yep i was gonna say only one quarterback is more than 30 pass attempts against the chargers and it was jacoby brissett josh now the one thing about the texans that they don't run the ball well so this chargers defense is not bad like even though they're pretty injured so they've been let down by their offense 100 and uh all right so it's gonna be a challenge stroud j you like him more though heath you have him 12th dave has him seventh i i think he's a very borderline start and i struggle with him versus shuck um at that 12 spot i think i have them in the projections actually like completely tied right now so it's gonna be interesting to see coming out of the buy like i think one of the most interesting things about this game is who's going to be the first receiver two in this offense please tell me it's not xavier hutchinson um but it's probably xavier hutchinson um but like what's that marv i i hope so that's a ratty marv could be tank i or i'd love it if it was tank that would be the like heath's happiest scenario uh everybody loves tank but like hopefully wouldn't it be great if like the top three are just clearly and obviously nico collins marvin harrison jr and tank dill yeah yeah it'd be cool and marvin here are the quarterbacks against the chargers josh allen 17 and a half fantasy points patrick mahomes 10 and a half fantasy points matthew stafford 10.3 yeah i know it's it's been it's been brutal uh even without dante jackson without derwin james and uh doesn't make a ton of sense but kudos to them all right so how about woody marks how would you rank um i'm sure it's going to be like this nico woody mar actually no nico woody marks marvin harrison is that how you'd rank it nico space woody huge space uh marv i'm not starting any of the other wide receivers for the texans i don't like not even my top 48 you have to see it first for marvin harrison jr but he has only run about 25 of the routes both games and his target per hour run rate is is super high so he's got to come out and do it but you know if you have marvin harrison jr i think there's a chance that you're going to have a good player at some point because they've got a good connection so far and they're going to have a good connection so far and they're going to have a good connection from college now you've got a bi-week if he goes out and he plays like 70 of the routes that did he get dropped on his bi-week i don't think so i have an 85 roster okay i i do think though to your point adam if we have a big marvin harrison game and we have more involvement from tank dell we have a nico collins problem huge huge would you guys start nico or um say flowers nico nico parker washington or nico nico i i think you know nico had a bad game last time he played but i i wouldn't say this is a panic sit or be worried about the matchup yet for him like he's the one that you still feel is the confident one and i'm gonna have a hard time getting away from woody marks i mean i know he had a bad game last week but 15 or more carries in three straight games and that's just there's not a lot of running backs who do that he's tyler algier i think he's better than tyler algier because he's not facing the seahawks i mean the chart right has he ever has he ever done what tyler algier did last week he's not facing the seahawks i mean the chart right has he ever has he said last week uh no probably not you know tyler algier has the last year has the sixth best running back performance of the season tyler algier last week is that what you said yeah no i can't name the other jameer gibbs jameer gibbs jameer gibbs bjohn robinson jameer gibbs has two of them bjohn has one of them kenneth walker has two of them no it's gibbs twice jaylen warren oh bjohn and there's one that i'm missing henry it's not walker henry taylor i'll have it for you tomorrow okay maybe it is ken walker woody marks or quinshawn judkins uh yeah i've got woody one spot higher woody marks or dj more uh woody marks yeah dalton schultz let's get some questions from the chat texans d or seahawks d wow love both um i'd go with the texans i have the texans it's jacksonville at one texans at two seahawks at three for me nico collins or chase brown ppr nico still yeah omari and hampton or charbonnet who's benching one of those guys that's crazy um who's starting one of those guys that's crazy uh woody marks rashad white jadarian price or marv harrison jr pick two uh the first two marks and white marks and white jaylen waddle or marvin harrison jr waddle uh waddle and thank you for uh conquer whatever uh tony potter was the other one oh oh yeah sure jaylen waddle or marvin or i'm sorry cj stroud or kirk cousins i've got stroud next game jets of chiefs i've got cousins we know you have cousins yeah yeah everyone lots of cousins i have lots of cousins jets at chiefs we're gonna sit geno smith we're gonna try to avoid the jets running backs jamie likes bruce hall better than braylon allen he's like braylon allen a little better than bruce hall slightly and they're where are they in the rankings between 24 and 30 and jamie where are they in the rankings hall is 25 and alan yeah between 25 and 30 uh the highest ranked jets wide receiver will be ranked where you know depending on garrett wilson being in or out i probably will take the cowardly way out and go 24 25 uh mitchell over cooper uh wilson if he plays will be top 20 if wilson doesn't play then between 24 and 30 yeah agreed if wilson plays he will be top 20 and the champs will be top 20 and the champs will be top 20 chiefs are second best against wide receivers and i i brought this up last week have they faced have they shut down any good wide receivers this year and honestly i think the answer is no it's just jaylen waddle in week one uh trey tucker had four for 44 on eight targets that's it i mean they've just had such an easy schedule so i don't know and in fairness like the jets have guys who have had big games but if we're looking at this four weeks from now and we see that they shut down omar cooper and adonai mitchell you're probably going to still say the same thing no but if they shut down garrett wilson i think that i think it's a tough matchup i think it's a tough matchup don't get me wrong um and garrett wilson you know played the patriots and had a terrible game played the dolphins who are good against wide receivers and had a terrible game so with that this is also an indication on on the defensive front getting to the quarterback very similar to the panthers like i don't think denver is going i don't think denver because of how they played is the reason the secondary is the reason why you're feeling mcmillan fearing mcmillan and coker for me at least is because bryce young has zero time to throw the ball like they're going to make things uncomfortable for gino smith this game i hope they can by the way uh jacob something i didn't see the name posted in there uh you you don't have cousins if you were an only child that's not true you could have second cousins you don't have an only child if your parents were only children not if your parents yeah right and also if you're married then all your that's true your wife's cousins are your cousins you don't have a sister do you what it's a complicated question oh okay because i'm the only because i don't know why i was thinking about that like jamie doesn't have a sister dave doesn't have a sister dan doesn't have a sister we don't have a lot of sisters on this show weird um if garrett wilson is out do you have any interest in mason taylor is the one thing the chiefs have struggled with i don't have a sister and i have only boys as children oh yeah about that um you're just not in touch with your feminine side it's true chiefs allow the fifth most points to tight ends so any interest in mason taylor if wilson's out and mason taylor if well mason taylor's hurt too mason taylor's hurt yes i was unaware of this he was on the injury part yesterday i don't know what the injury is okay well assuming he plays okay i'm you know what i'm done he was limited in practice uh i'm not gonna make the case for mason taylor's I'm trying to figure out, like, who are. My sister. no why have the chiefs been so bad again like i know you're the stats are right a lot of touchdowns i think um well ingram scored against them in week one nate atkins scored against them last week yeah tyler warren okay greg dulcich had a good game ian thomas scored michael mayer had 82 yards brock bowers had a good game it's just i don't know the raiders are doing a lot of work there yeah but but unlike some backup that's not just bowers mayer at eight for 82 all right we're off on a tangent passion about homes you guys like him you have him seventh dave has him 14th but you guys are starting him because the jets as jamie mentioned at the top of the show terrible three straight weeks against quarterbacks by the way passion homes has not completed a deep ball 20 or more area yards since the taekwon thornton injury but it hasn't really mattered start ken walker starter said emma johnson you can't start emma johnson yeah yeah uh start rishi rice but please make sure he's rostered and travis kelsey or tj hawkinson i'd go hawkinson okay yeah i don't really i don't they're both right around 12 i i think i'd probably go kelsey ugh kelsey or um dulcich kelsey uh kelsey but they're very close fannin or kelsey fannin chavis kelsey 8.4 or more ppr fantasy points in all but one game so far chiefs dst seventh for jamie 16th for dave 14th for heath so i they'll be higher for me if delane's okay okay and if wilson's out um if tootin is out tonight would you go algier breeze hall or braylon allen um so you have to make the call well you have to make the call tonight i think zonovan night's gonna play so just keep that in mind he didn't practice though he's in the concussion protocol he's in the concussion protocol today will be a big day for homes or cousins moms yeah pick two adonai mitchell michael wilson zay flowers i mean you got to make the decision on flowers tonight not knowing if garrett wilson's gonna play or not if garrett wilson were out i would say it's mitchell and i'd say i'd play flowers either way and then just i'd go mitchell over wilson's if uh i do think it's a pretty good sign for the guys like wilson and watson and night who are in the concussion protocol like i don't think we've had a guy who didn't practice at all on thursday that played from the concussion protocol so you they need to get a limit in on thursday so they can get a full in on friday so they can get cleared so if wilson doesn't play then you can feel better about mitchell or doesn't practice flex adonai mitchell tj hockinson or antonio williams mitchell if wilson's up sorry go ahead mitchell if wilson's out yeah i'd go hockinson if if wilson rice or deandre swift swift yeah my homes are golf golf golf kelsey or pits pits for me moving on detroit's at miami this will be the first game in jack campbell's career that he misses the which great news though uh i'm not sure if it's going to be a good game or not i'm not sure i'm not sure if it's going to be a good game or not i'm not sure if it's going to be a good game jack campbell in the hospital with a neck injury has movement in all of his extremities so hopefully on the mend um trend of the game jared golf has 32 or fewer pass attempts in four of his last five games and teams just don't really throw that much against the dolphins i think they've seen the second or third fewest pass attempts per game in the nfl uh sam laporta is not getting a ton of targets he's kind of interesting he's got a great matchup but you know usually about five targets for sam laporta starter sit laporta so you guys have jared golf in your top five you're starting gibbs you're starting saint brown i mean think about how good henry would have been last week he was just off to such a great start oh hunter henry yeah yeah uh jameson williams is top 21 for everybody 15th for jamie i think unless things have changed so a lot of starts in this game and uh would you start like woody marks or jameson williams jamo yeah okay yeah i guess i'm just a little bit more of a little concerned because the dolphins they gave up the third fewest points to to wide receivers and it's because only two of them have only two receivers have more than six targets against miami i still i think like it's funny because the guy who i would expect to be hurt by that because they don't give up a ton of huge plays i would expect saint brown to kind of be the one who gets penalized by the lower pass volume but what are you dropping him from wide receiver three to wide receiver seven like i'm just starting my lines over the last three weeks jameson williams has five end zone targets and sam laporta has zero that's not the kind of thing that you can count on for consistency but for what what it's worth that's what's happening right now all right laporta is top six for you guys dave is a little lower on him so the dolphins are the ones that we should really talk about who who are you most confident in jamie on the dolphins i mean i'm most confident ollie gordon because of his track record and body of work but i'm really excited about several other players i mean malik willis 18 fantasy points or more each of his last three games we know what detroit has been you just said it kyler murray had a good game against them like this is a great matchup and i hope that we get back to seeing what willis did in the two previous games where he ran for at least 37 yards and scored a touchdown in back-to-back games on the ground so i'd love to see that from he's one of my favorite if not the favorite streaming quarterback for this week and the same thing with dulcis based on the matchup uh 13.3 ppr points to i think a tight end in every game this season or all but one game excuse me all but one game this season because the panthers didn't do it so like the setup for for both those guys streaming wise and then you have the two receivers from miami you know i'm not sure if they're going to be able to do that malik washington has kind of been just that steady presence 11 ppr points or more last week's actually the first time he's done he's done it with caleb douglas on the field uh but a good sign there that he can still get the job done with other guys being active and caleb douglas could be an absolute monster this week because the lion secondary is beat up dj reed is also hurt uh so they also you know branch if he doesn't play uh with the concussion like they're just you know very beat up here and he had six targets last week four for 43 it felt like there was a couple plays he left on the field uh you alluded to it the interstate reception that willis threw off the helmet um could have been a big play to caleb douglas so uh there's a lot to love about about him also so i think you can get some some good hey i'm stuck and i have douglas on my bench or i picked up willis or i picked up dulcets like they can be very productive this week just given the uh the opponent and you see i know the implied toll is going to be in the favor of lions but 15 and a half speaks to the dolphin scoring in this game so how would you compare the dolphins receivers to the jets receivers you can't compare them if every one of them is going to be in the favor of the lions everybody's healthy i think it's more you're talking about douglas and washington versus mitchell and cooper if garrett wilson plays yeah well okay so if garrett wilson doesn't play are those two jets receivers clearly ahead of the two yes all right you say that but the matchups couldn't be more different basically based just on paper um that's agreed but i think in that case you're trusting geno smith more so than you're trusting malik wilson i don't which i know it sounds funny to say but the the lions past defense has been much better against wide receivers in the last three games no wide receiver is more than 70 yards only one touchdown for a wide receiver in their last three games i'm not buying it but it has happened i mean the packers guys were disappointing against the lions somehow um and then there's dulcich who heath you have him 20th and jamie already made the case got him 14th you think you're gonna move dulcich up i might move him up a little bit it's it's hard for me in the projections process like malik has found a way to score fantasy points recently but we're still looking at an environment where they are averaging like 190 passing yards per game and these good games here recently he's been 211 and 208 passing yards and caleb douglas is there and malik washington we know he's gonna have 50 of those um so i mean this is gonna have to be an uncharacteristic game for malik willis and maybe it will because it's the lions he has like 220 passing yards is the season high he has two ties touchdowns in his last two games it's also the only two games all season that he has multiple past touchdowns are you guys starting malik willis or matthew stafford stafford stafford unless the the arm soreness is really an issue malik willis or jayden daniels against the rams daniels daniels malik willis or caleb williams i go malik willis i'm still gonna say caleb malik willis or bo nicks well well i'm really kind of uh yeah i'll go willis there chat questions laporta or fannin laporta yeah laporta or craft laporta yep caleb douglas or denzel boston douglas yeah it's i i've got boston drew lock or malik willis both um okay laporta or loveland loveland uh i've got laporta golf or trevor lawrence oh tough one for me right now now uh lawrence as of this moment but they're back i'll go golf dulcet or goddard dulcet goddard let's go dallas to dallas at indianapolis last game for today uh-oh stat of the game giovante williams had 20 targets in his first five games and now he has four targets in his last three games and that is reminiscent of 2025 but part of that is dallas just throwing less than they than usual in the last two games at the fourth lowest pass rate over the last two weeks Dak Prescott is QB eight for everyone. At least he was yesterday, so he's going to be right around there. Prescott or Goff? Goff. Prescott or Stafford and Jaden Daniels? Dak. Yep. Start Javante, start Lamb. George Pickens or Jamison Williams? Jamison. J-M-O for me. You said Pickens, Heath? Yep. George Pickens or Woody Marks? Pickens. Does this count as a squeaky wheel game for Pickens with the owner and the coach both talking about wanting to give him the Baltimore? You would hope. You know what, I'm just going to go ahead and say it. I watched his routes from last week and I just think there's I think there could be a little more effort there. From Pickens? You're questioning his effort? I don't like doing that. I got to feel pretty comfortable about it, but there was a screen pass behind him. He didn't block. I know it's been brought up before, but it's just bothering me. I don't know. This is just a great matchup. But, you know, the Colts haven't been that bad against wide receivers. In fact, they've been seventh best against wide receivers. It's a great matchup for Dak, not necessarily for Pickens. I mean, when you have Sauce Gardner and Charverius Ward, you should be pretty decent against wide receivers. It's going to be tough to sit George Pickens. I get it. Ryan Flanoy or Caleb Douglas? Flanoy is safer. Caleb Douglas has, is a higher ceiling. I'll go Douglas. Four straight games with 11 PPR points, but Douglas could go off this week. Okay. Jake Ferguson's maybe out. Bryce Spanford. Yeah, whatever. I don't want to talk about Bryson Spanford. I don't want to talk about Brevin. Brevin Spanford there. That's his name. Sit Daniel Jones. Jonathan Taylor is a little bit lower than usual. Heath, do you still have him 18th? No. Okay. Did you ever have him 18th, or was that just a typo? I think I have him 8th. Oh, 8th. Okay. That makes more sense. So he's got 12 for everyone. I wrote about this for the running back starts. If you knew this was Jonathan Taylor, no issues, not getting traded, he'd be top three. It's so hard to figure what the layout of the game is going to be because the trade deadline is Tuesday. The last thing that they could afford is him getting injured. He wants to win for this team. They have no incentive to tank. Zero. Their draft pick is not there. Great matchup. Great matchup. Tyler Algier just went for 36 PPR points. It should be the layup of all layups. Yeah. But he played the fewest naps of his season. Maybe it was career when healthy last week. I didn't check that, but certainly the fewest naps of the season last week. And I know they got blown out early, so take that into account. But like, man, you just want to see Jonathan Taylor go out. Last home game, if he does get traded, like go out, go out the Tyler Algier game and then, you know, give the salute to the crowd and say thank you for everything. And hopefully it's a understanding parting if he does get traded. Not that they're going to have any animosity because it's not like he's asked to be sent away. It'd be fun, but it's just hard to bank on it. All right. Tyler Warren is top seven for you guys. Would you start Warren or Loveland? Loveland's been awesome for three straight games. Like, I'm just sticking with Loveland. He was tied in 12 last week, wasn't he? Yeah. He fumbled. Yeah. I mean, he's got, what, three straight games with nine targets, right? Seven targets. How about Warren? Warren or Hawkinson? Warren. But again, like, if you're just looking at production, it's easy to say Hawkinson. I'd go Warren, though. He's got Keenan Allen, 24th. Dave has him, 29th. Heath has him, 35th. So anywhere from 24th to 35th for Keenan Allen, that sounds about right. And Josh. Through his last five games, he's been at least seven or more targets and very productive when he's had good matchups. He's got a 22% target share for the season. That's just high. That's just high. And Dallas, 26. Against wide receivers. Okay. Let's go to our questions from the chat. George Pickens or Michael Wilson? Pickens. Yep. Tyler Warren or Dallas Goddard? Warren. Warren. Keenan Allen or Antonio Williams? Keenan. That's Keenan. Tyler Warren or Fannin? I want to say Fannin, but it's Warren. Warren. Adam, look up the actor slash screenwriter Kirk Fox. Heath is a spitting, image of him. We got another one. Wow. That's something. I see it. I don't know about a spitting image, but yeah, that's. Resemblance. There's a resemblance. Yeah, like an older version of Heath, but. What's his name? Kirk Fox. Yeah, he's, I guess, 10 years from now. Yeah, there you go. Okay. Thanks for watching, listening, everybody. CBS Sports Network today, 1 p.m. or noon? 1 p.m. No, noon. Sorry, Jamie's mic cut out. Heath, what time is it? Noon? On the network today? Noon. Noon. Noon Easter. Dave, Jamie, and Heath talking rankings. And we'll talk to you then and tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today. See ya. See ya. 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