Week 9 Buy Low & Sell High TRADE Targets + Worry-O-Meter! (11/4 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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We don't know where Heath is. We think he might be stuck in a flood. Because man, it's crazy in South Florida. And I didn't really realize how bad it was. So for all of you listening in that area, I hope everything is okay with you. And Jamie, you can talk about it because men, it's like alligators are swimming around your neighborhood. Yes, they're alligators swimming in neighborhoods. I haven't seen one in my neighborhood yet, but they're alligators swimming in neighborhoods. It is flooding very badly down here. Nothing that is anything to worry about, you know, from a life threatening standpoint, at least that I haven't seen. But please be safe. The roads are bad. They're very bad. Yeah, crazy stuff. All right, so on a brighter note, it's Fantasy Football time. It's time to make some trades. We can tell you who we're trading for, who we're trading away. We've got the worriometer on a brighter note. It's worriometer Wednesday. We're going to talk about Parker Washington, Sequan Barkley, Chase Brown, Justin Jefferson, Ashton Gentie. Who else? Ameka Bucca and others. And others. And others. They flowers, of course, with Ty-- You know, I'm a little-- I didn't realize Tyler Huntley was going to miss the year. They were talking about him being-- I'm not sure he's going to be able to play on Thursday. That made me think maybe it'll be a few weeks. He's out for the season. So that's not so good for Tyler Hunt. It'll start with the end-- Obviously, I thought you could say the last word for Zafla. It's really not good for Tyler Huntley. You're bad for him. Basel Tutin, not practicing. Did you-- I saw you updated the waiver wire column. Did you move up Chris Rodriguez? I did. I did. I think it's just, you know, reading some of the beat riders reports. One in particular, you know, we talked about this guy quite a bit in the preseason. John Shipley covers the team for-- I believe it's USA Today. And suggesting that, you know, Chris Rodriguez could have a big opportunity in front of him if he gets the opportunity to play-- we'll see. Today's a big day. You know, so my guess is he'll be list as questionable in terms of Tutin and just make sure you have a backup plan. So Rodriguez would be a borderline top 20 running back if he gets the opportunity to start. Chris Rodriguez in a game that we're going to preview later today. Let me see. He has-- oh, shoot. For those of you who are part of the show, Jamie and Thomas. Oh, sorry. First time I've done that. Jamie and Sam. You're off to a great start. I sent you the notes today. And I put the wrong game in the notes. I put my Green Bay New England preview in the notes. We're actually going to talk about Jacksonville and Baltimore. But Chris Rodriguez has like 11 catches in his career or something like that. So I wonder how-- One of them came last week? Yeah. I wonder how many he'd catch this week if he were the starting running back. Other news items? I'm going to guess the over-under would probably be 1 and 1/2. What would you take? If he is the starter, I would take the over. Me too. Tyler Huntley's out for the season. Joe Fignano is going to start this week. Aaron Glenn said that Breeze Hall is our guy. And then he said, I'm assuming Breeze is our guy. And he said, Braille and Allen is a beast. So we'll see how that situation works now. Do you think if you walked down the streets of New York, a streets of Manhattan with a picture of Joe Fisano? How do you say his name? Fisano. Fignano. Fignano. Do you think how many people-- if you ran to 100 people, you showed the picture to 100 people. How many would know who he is? Zero, including the guy holding it. I don't even know what Joe Fignano looks like. Well, I mean, he did play at UConn. So there might be some-- Yeah. They don't know. They don't go to the games there. Come on. Where am I? Love is on IR. Tyler Algiers, now the most-added player, up to 77% roster. Don't forget-- I have a feeling we're going to get the wrong guy. Yeah. Actually, Zonovan Knights on the most dropped list. He has gone from 55% to 49%. I know he has the concussion. That's usually a zero to one-week absence. And this is at least a four-week absence for Jeremiah Love. It actually could be six. Right. Because they have their buy. Yeah. But I think they said five to six-week injury. So if I have the-- their buy is week 14. And the four-game window is week 13? Yes. He has the miss. Weeks 9, 10, 11, 12. So he could come back in week 13. Correct. And then their buy is week 14. So you would assume that they may just be cautious with it. And he may sit through the buy. Yeah. Absolutely. And-- But their playoff schedule is great. What's their record, you know? What's the incentive to bring him back? It was not 100% healthy. I think you want to see what you have in your first round pick. But yeah, Zonovan Knight, I wouldn't say that you must-- I would add him. I wouldn't let him be unrestored in any of my leagues. The way that I re-wrote it in the column was that don't be surprised if Zonovan Knight is better. You might get a one-week window of Tyler Alger being better. But for the majority of the time that love is out, Knight averaged 10 and something. PPR points just shy of 11. PPR points in the two games that love missed. Alger was like 7.5. 6.5. Yeah, I'm going to give you the stat one last time. Second quarter. Bam Knight played 16 snaps. Tyler Alger played four. And of those four snaps, let's see how many came-- I don't think any of them came after the Knight injury. But 16 snaps to four for Knight. And then Knight got hurt. Jeremy McNichols is on IR, which I think is helpful for Rashad White. Instead of it being a three-way split, it'll be a two-way split. Tell him for that, or two? Absolutely. I was about to say, you know, I'm very desperate for running back in a league and I don't know if I got him. I don't know if we ran waivers last night, but I put in a bid for Austin Eccler. And the Raiders could apparently go with a hot hand at running back. Let's take a look before Heath gets here at the most traded list, Jamie. And Oli Gordon is the most traded player. I'm going to give you some guys, and you just tell me, generally speaking, are you buying or selling? Oli Gordon is the most traded player. I'd be selling, mostly because of picking him up off waivers with the hope that I had other players on my team. Yeah, okay. But not because we think he's going to be bad. Correct. And Chase Brown is the second most traded player. I'd be buying. We'd rather have Gordon or Brown. Brown. Josh Jacobs is the third most traded player. Understandable, trying to get something for him before something trade or suspension happens. I had a trade offer in an analyst's league for its dynasty league. So somebody who was tanking offered me Josh Jacobs and Jordan Mason. This was prior to last week. Josh Jacobs, Jordan Mason, for DeShawn Stribbling and my first run pick. And I said, no. This is an old dynasty league, you said? It's nice. At the time I was in first place. I'm now in second place. I'm sorry, now in third place. At a terrible loss. I actually lost to the team that tried to make me the trade and was tanking and was tanking very poorly. Because instead of a very good lineup. I said, I rejected the offer. I said, I'll give you Stribbling for Jacobs. If you'd like. I'll take the chance on Jacobs still playing. But my concern is that he doesn't finish the season. And the manager said no. I'm going to give you some actual trades that have happened in our leagues. Who wins this trade? Nico. Our leagues or CBS leagues? CBS leagues. Gotcha. Nico Collins for Josh Jacobs. The Nico said. Ali Gordon for Josh Jacobs. I'll say for now the Jacobs side. Jordan Love for Josh Jacobs. The Jacobs side. Matthew Golden for Josh Jacobs. The Golden side. DJ Moore for Josh Jacobs. For now the more side. If Jacobs doesn't get suspended any further, I'd take him over Nico Collins and DJ Moore. Sure. But you would not. It's pretty close though, I assume. I mean, I'm factoring in the potential suspension or trade. Yeah. Justin Jefferson for Josh Jacobs. Jefferson. He's the third. He's the fourth most traded player. And he's going to be on our worryometer later. Ooh, you know what? I'm curious to see because O'Marion Hampton is the sixth most traded player or fifth most traded player. Let me go to his trade page. What the heck are people getting for O'Marion Hampton right now? Let's see, Braylon Allen for O'Marion Hampton. I mean, if you fear that Breesaw was just taking over the job, then I still have Braylon. Me too. Jonah Coleman for O'Marion Hampton. No way. Take Coleman, right? No way. What do you say for a Mario and Hampton? No, I'd rather have a doon say. He looks good the last two weeks. What do you marks for a Mario and Hampton? I'd rather have marks. Even though Montgomery could be back this week. Yeah, I mean, we don't know that Montgomery's getting the lead rollback. I don't know who the hell I would give up to get a Mario and Hampton. I can't think of a single player on my roster. I think like if you picked up, it cardinals running back and you wanted to see like their end of season schedule isn't as brutal. Yeah, I think if I had a backup quarterback or something, I might trade for a Mario and Hampton. No, I mean, like I don't need a quarterback and it does, you know, maybe something like that. All right. Let's get to you. I have two leagues where I drafted Hampton either first or second round. One I'm in second place and one I'm absolutely disgusting team. Disgusting bad? All bad. Yeah. I only have one Hampton team and it was one of my favorite teams. I've AJ Brown and I'm Mario and Hampton, we're not doing so great. Tonight, if you're not doing anything, check out NFL play action 8 p.m. Eastern, well, I don't know what time comes out on Paramount Plus and the other time zones, but 8 p.m. Eastern, I'll be watching it. And today you'll see WWE superstar trick Williams threaten me with all of his wrestling moves. It was fun. Trade talk, Jamie's buys, Jamie's sells and we'll talk about he's whether he is able to get in or not. But Jamie, you want to buy Jaylen Coker and Caleb Douglas. And Jamie's moving away from Bilo, sell high, although there'll be some of that. But just players he wants to acquire, Jaylen Coker, Caleb Douglas. I mean, the Cokers had a couple of bad games recently and media agree games recently. I know he's got a touchdown last week, but I still think there's plenty of love about the situation. Clearly the Panthers are trying to tweak some things and make things work, changing defensive coaches, changing some things on the offense side of the ball, the offensive line is going to be a work in progress, so we'll see how that goes. But they've just run into a little bit of a tough stretch of games. And I think Coker's still going to get his opportunities as targets. This is a very concentrated offense where you know that McMillan and Coker are going to lead the team in targets every week. The majority of weeks I should say. And I still think that Bryce Young can get things right, at least to a point where they're going to be heavily involved in the still productive, so clearly the value is down at this point and I think there's still a lot to love about Coker's situation. For Douglas, the schedule is just amazing coming up. And you know, you said it on Tuesday show, I guess I would be Tuesday show. Just how good he looks. Like he just, he looks the part of what could be an alpha type receiver. And I think he's a playmaker. As we saw in the Jets game, he gets the Jets coming up in a few weeks. This week's matchup against Detroit is very favorable. And so I'm hoping that we see some shootouts for the dolphins because like this week against Detroit, I think Detroit will put up points against them. Six targets last week and a tough matchup against New England. I think there's going to be a lot of big games coming from. And this is the guy you can get cheap. You know, so I tried to find someone that you could probably get off somebody's bench that's not going to cost you a lot, especially you know, coming off a little bit of a disappointing game for a guy that missed three games early this season with an ankle injury. So I will be trying to trade for Caleb Douglas if you need receiver help. For Coker, how much is it concern you that three of his next five games are against Denver, Tampa Bay and Minnesota? It's not ideal, but you're still going to get probably seven targets of game. So I think you just treat him as a number three receiver as opposed to a mustarca. Okay. But again, somebody you're going to get cheap at this point. And there's a thing with this team, the Panthers, like they've had two pretty concerning offensive games in a row. And yeah, I'm not, I'm not worried about it, right? You know, I'm a little concerned Tampa Bay is a good defense, green Bay is a good defense 10th best. And then they've got Denver this week. So if you want to believe in Coker and McMillan and maybe even young bouncing back, you've got to be willing to accept a bad game in week nine, not guaranteeing that's going to happen. But they're playing Denver, they're offensive lines been a little shaky the last couple weeks. And now you got this pass rush. So you might have to be patient. But Coker, you would think would be a little more immune to it because he plays in the slot. He's not going down field as much as he's not going to see certain McMillan. Yeah, I don't even know if I want to start McMillan this week and think I'm looking forward to talking about that one. Okay. And then you want to sell a couple of running backs, Mike Washington, Jr. and Breeze Hall. I think both for all to the obvious why, you know, you just, you know, gave the comment about what Frank Reich said. And clearly boy Raylon Allen has looked great. So he's coming back to some level of a timeshare. Whether that's 50, 50, 60, 40, you know, I would think in his favor. But, you know, some level of timeshare and whatever Raylon Allen's going to do is going to impact Breeze Hall. So there's also a potential trade that could happen between now and next Tuesday. I'd be surprised if they did that, but that's something that could still happen. I just think you're looking at a guy whose name is going to carry some weight. And as we said time and time again, you can trade, you can get more in trade from giving away running backs. If that makes sense, you can, you get more back from trading away running backs that have the potential. Still be, I think top 20 caliber guys. I think that's still within the range of possibilities for Breeze Hall. I saw you get Breeze Hall on the trading block on one in one of our leagues last night. And I was like, good luck, man, because I haven't had any luck trying to trade him. I think, I think people are genuinely, genuinely concerned about Breeze Hall. I'll look up some trades that have happened involving Breeze Hall in CBS leagues, but I, I'm really nervous about him. I really think Braylon Allen is, I'm going to give him a, I'm going to give Braylon Allen a 51% chance to be the goal line back for the fair. Yeah. And I just don't know. And it could, it could also be a situation where in the first game or two with them both playing together, Allen is even better. I think if I saw correctly, I could be wrong. Both Heath and Dave have Allen ranked the head of hall this week. This week. No, I'm not there yet, but I still think Breeze Hall could be a top 20 guy. You hear that sound? Is that heath? Oh, no, I thought it was heath. It'll be heath. Next time you hear that he's on his way, he's on his way. And then in the case of Mike Washington, like, this is the easiest guy to try and flip if you can, because everybody's trying to spend fab on him. He just had 25 carries. Don't know if that's going to happen again. And obviously Ash and Genty's still healthy. So whatever you can get in return for him, I would try and do so, not giving him away, but this is an easy sell out Canada. I want to contribute somehow to the show. So I have a couple of guys that I think it's hard to buy low right now. I'm more interested in buying high, but I think, um, I think there's a couple of guys that I can make a good case for as buy lows. So I'm going to do that when we come back. We will be right back. Hopefully with heath on fantasy football today. All right. Just a couple of guys. I feel like you're going to agree with me. Chase Brown has one touchdown. He doesn't have a touchdown since week one. He had one call back in week eight. I'm not saying there are no red flags here. It's five straight games with no more than 13 carries. I don't think he's going to be great as a rusher, but I also don't think that's the match. A P Ryan is the goal line back. I'm not to say that he won't mix in there at some point, but that that one yard touchdown run P Ryan had. I'm not too concerned about it. We're also talking about a guy who's getting six targets a game in Chase Brown. If you take away the game that Jamar chase left with an injury, it's five targets a game. That's still really good. You know, if he catches 80% of those, which he should for catches a game is what that's 60 that 68 catches in a year. Right. Yeah. So I like Chase Brown. I think this is going to be his, I think this is going to be the low point for him. You've got Atlanta this week. They give up the fourth most fantasy points to running. I think we've asked the low point. Well, he did score 16 point one points, but I think people are still fine. I still think I still think this is that it's only going to go up from here is his value. So I don't think you're wrong in what you're saying. I just think the low point was the Miami game when some JP Ryan out snapped him fair enough. But you still have a chance to buy low. The other guy is Parker Washington. Wait. And, uh, you know, my concern with Parker Washington is that he's, he's, he's got four touchdowns this year. They've all been like sort of spectacular, but I'm concerned about them blowing out some teams on their schedule. I mean, their next four games are Baltimore, Tennessee, the Giants and Tennessee. Tennis. He's been pretty competitive. The Giants are in first place. I don't think they blow out all of them. There could be two blowouts here. And the thing is this, this team, the Jaguars are like 25th and pass rate. So something like that. So when they start pulling away, they, they are not throwing a lot when they win. Uh, do you want to hear something crazy? Heath's here. That is pretty crazy. Uh, they're here. Yes. It's a little wet. Uh, this is from the action network. Okay. I'm sorry. Action news in Jack's most, excuse me from the, uh, his name is Daniel Griffiths. G-R-I-F-F-I-S from the action news network in Jacksonville. Trevor Lawrence has been pulled early in eight of the last Jaguars 15 games. Wow. He has missed a total in those times that he's been pulled a total of 89 minutes. Man, that's wild. That's a great stat. Um, yeah. So I think, I think my basic argument for him is just he's too good. He's, he's awesome. And he'll get his production, Parker Washington, I'm talking about here. He is. And I would, uh, I would buy low on him, even though I know it's like four of the last five games really haven't been that good. So this is a great opportunity, uh, to, to buy low, who is the NFL MVP right now? Yeah. It's funny. You say that because last night I was thinking that he, he doesn't have the numbers right now, but Trevor Lawrence. Probably is a top five candidate. Oh, he's definitely the top five. I think it's got to be Alan Peri Burrow Lawrence my homes and Burrow Burrow that's good five Yeah, I'd buy a vote party today McCarthy. No, not McCarthy. No, maybe Maybe It's a beautiful day Yeah, sorry is your street underwater parts Parts not entirely. Yeah, we get a pretty Pretty well-draining area. I think the school like some of the schools. I guess probably you know this cancelled My wife's two of my kids schools have been cancelled, I guess So I think my wife was kayaking through the parking lot to get to the front door of the school. So It's good times. Did you get where your kids off of school yesterday? For for um Election day. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's two days in a row man. That's tough You get an election day off and then a rain day like not Back in my day We just went to school when it rained I don't get I mean, I never went to I don't think I had election day off But they vote at my kids school. So I get why they had election day off Um, tougher parents. All right. He's let's talk about your trade targets You want to buy high on Jonah Coleman? Do you still want to buy low on Z flowers now that Huntly's out for the year Yes, I just simply refused to believe that they are going to go with Joe Fignano the rest of the way Or anybody of these other names of quarter wrecks that 75% of NFL fans have never heard of Um, I think that we like this is probably on a short week Wasn't enough time to get anybody ready anyway, but I think after the Thursday game they make a move And uh get somebody that's not good, but probably not worse than Huntly and Z flowers will still be a wide receiver two Okay, yeah, I have some some data So support your case just kind of looking at Wide receivers who have been on horrible offenses Over the last three seasons and where they have finished and where the hell is my okay best wide receivers on a team That was bottom five in gross passing yards per game last three seasons three years ago. We didn't really have anyone good What I'm sorry. I was waiting for you to say zay flowers all three years Last year zay flowers. Yeah, he was he was on a team that was Fifth worst in gross passing yards per game or fifth lowest I should say any average 14.7 ppr Points per game, which is good. It's not good. It's probably not good enough to win the bet, but it's good Three years ago. There was nobody really Two years ago we had five wide receivers average 14 or more ppr fantasy points that would be Adam Thielin AJ Brown Davante Smith Malik neighbors and DJ Moore And not all of them were like really great or Mustard's fact only I would say only neighbors and AJ Brown were Mustard guys Davante Smith got his production. I think a lot when AJ Brown or Dallas got it were out But either way you'd say Davante Smith was close to a mustard for the full season, but it was kind of split Based on who was in or out, but you did have five wide receivers average 14 or more ppr fantasy points on bottom five passing offenses in 2024 and last year we had Garrett Wilson in his six healthy games was awesome And the jets were terrible. I mean the jets averaged 175 passing yards per game in the first six games of the year Wilson was a top 12 wide receiver Harold Fanon was tied in eight last year on the Browns just and Jefferson was bad Zay flowers was a good example of 14.7 points per game And like you think about the great game that he had with Tyler Huntley It's not like Tyler Huntley did something great in that game Like the big play he caught at the line of scrimmage So I I am more encouraged just to transition to the the other guy on the Ravens. I put on the list I'd be more likely to sell low on Derek Henry Whereas I'm I'm about trying to buy low on zay flowers. It's three straight games with 60 scrimmage yards or fewer I don't think whoever they add at quarterbacks going to open up the rushing lanes for him And they're going to lose a lot of games he's bad in losses and they're not going to score a lot of touchdowns and he needs touchdowns if if they If Davante Smith does not play another game Who wins the bet is a flowers Assuming that he plays in the fantasy playoffs No, he's going to have to average more than 17 points per game from here on out No He's if Davante Smith doesn't play another game then Zay flowers wins the total season Davante Smith wins the per game the tiebreaker was the fantasy playoffs Oh good Davante Smith doesn't play then Zay flowers wins the bet You made you are on air agreeing to that so shut up This is you just made too many of the terms here now I think I think the bet should be thrown out I think we should both don't we should both donate five hundred dollars to St. Jude just throw the bet out This is not representative of who these players are or we're supposed to be Okay, um, I mean 100% is the both on a fair game basis having a career year Yeah, but I mean going forward. It's not representative of what okay look I tried it didn't work He's all right. So he wants to buy low on Zay flowers buy high on Jonah Coleman Yeah, I just think I mean first off the Bronco schedule is fantastic in the second half of the season I don't think there is any like even Sean Peyton isn't going to mess this up There's just a huge gap between what Jonah Coleman can do and what JK Dobbins can do right now with the football in their hands RJ Harvey and Tyler Badei are both on IR so they can't mess it up for a little while And I think by the time they get back coalman will be established as just the clear RV one on this team He's the top 20 running back this week in rest of season and he may be a gamer too away from us talking about him on the talk 15 Jonah Coleman played more snaps in terms of percentage last week than RJ Harvey or JK Dobbins have played in any game this season He played 66% of the snaps um Would you rather have Derek Henry or Jonah Coleman rest of season Coleman Jamie Today, I want to see what the quarterback situation is like they get Mac Jones for example Like they overpay 49ers and get Mac Jones or they get Jacobi Brissett. I think that'll be okay for the Ravens like there there's some scenarios here where the offense can be saved I yeah, I agree. I just think that those like I might be more excited if the chiefs are like Have bought into their rookie and decide let's send them just in fields Then at least maybe that will help the the rushing efficiency for the Ravens offense I'm not sure Jacobi's going to help that he was not throwing them all down the field It's just going to be nine guys to line a scrimmage every play So don't forget though with Jonah Coleman that the Broncos reportedly are in the Jonathan Taylor sweepstakes so that's a that's the biggest factor is that I don't know why I mean same You know you have you have a running back on a rookie deal you still have JK Dobbins for the rest of this season who You know, it's not like he was terrible and they were dealing with a very difficult schedule Which was part of this plus you still have RJ Harvey coming back at some point like I get Jonathan Taylor makes you better totally from an NFL standpoint just doesn't Also make sense that you're gonna overpay and you know ruin your future For a position that's not exactly a huge need for you All right, so oh, sorry. We do have a little breaking news From Adam Schefter the brand and I you cast turn in his paperwork and we'll be reporting to the 49ers facility on Friday They're gonna let him in As soon as he shows up they got to start paying him or they got cut him man Well, the NFL has to reinstate him or no yes, and they will he's well. I don't know. I don't remember him having anything That would prevent that. Yeah, right. No, I guess you're right. Okay, so it's a recap I'm gonna still have one more player to talk about here To recap Jamie says by Jalen Coker and Caleb Douglas sell Mike Washington Jr. and Breeze Hall Heath says by Jonah Coleman sell Derek Henry And buy Zay flowers and sell Isaiah likely Yeah, I just think and I wish I would have said sell Isaiah likely three weeks ago Um, I'm just Not confident the same target volume is going to be there with Jay Jay McCarthy for him As it was with James Winston as it looked like it was going to be with Jackson Dart I think we talked about this a couple of weeks ago But the nice thing now is one the buy weeks over so you can use that as a selling point two We're a week removed from the worst production so you can just point to that season long scoring average And hope that you can get somebody to buy him as a top four or five titan I still think he'll be a starter like I only were gonna be replacing Isaiah likely But I I don't think he's going to be the difference maker. He was early in the season Had a 13% and a 14.3% target per-out run rate With Jay Jay McCarthy that translates to a 16% target share in about in five quarters with Jay Jay McCarthy Which is a super small sample size We did talk about this a week ago McCarthy's been throwing a Malachi fields a decent amount and not to Isaiah likely Obviously we expect likely have more targets than fields it's not set in stone, but we expect that But yeah, it's it's a little bit of a trend to watch so you'd go Isaiah likely for or a strong, oh, I think Sam Laporta is a good bi-low too. He has faced the last two games have been against Minnesota and Green Bay, by the way. And they are number one and number two against Titans right now. So I would think better times are ahead. He had a 20% target share in week eight Laporta did after like a 5% target share in week seven. Anywho, they like, what's the difference between likely and Laporta? What would you want with Laporta to get likely to, or if you're giving up likely, you'd want Laporta and? And upgrade at another position. Laporta and- I don't even need a starter at another position. I'll give you a worse wide receiver too for a better wide receiver too. Laporta and Caleb Douglas. Really? I don't think there's a single rookie wide receiver other than Carnell Tate that I feel like I'm going to be confident putting in my line up on a weekly basis. Oh, you'll be confident about two weeks every month. And that was a bit of a waste for me. Also, I'm just a good week for Fields because he had a good one before the bite. So he's got another one coming this week. Perfect. I'm really glad Johnny Airport Thomas stuck around. In high school, Adam was voted most likely to back out of a deal. That's awesome. So I think I forgot to mention Carnell Tate. You could argue he's got the best schedule of like any player. And I'm saying that without really knowing everyone's schedule. But here's where his upcoming opponents rank against wide receivers. Carnell Tate, 27th, 26th, 27th, 21st, 29th, 7th, 22nd, and 9th. Now I would say that with Jacksonville, two of the next three games being against Jacksonville, I think Travis Hunters are very good cornerback. I saw him shadow and equal Collins and do a really good job. Do they shadow Carnell Tate with Travis Hunter? It's possible. But wide receivers are putting up numbers against the Jaguars. If you look at Detroit in five weeks, they could be healthier, and by the way, Detroit's been much better the last three weeks. They haven't been the layup that we've been hoping for. So I think Tate's schedule might be kind of fool's gold, but Cam Ward is coming off arguably the best game of his career. Carnell Tate's coming off a bad game and a buy. So another guy you might want to buy. Not like don't think he's going to win you your league, but can you get 14 fantasy points per game? Yeah, which is right around our B-20. Who will be the best rookie? Why do I receive her by the end of the season? Him. I don't even know who else it would be. Oh, there's lots of candidates. I never know about Tyson. Yeah. I say take, though. Well, I mean, another couple of big games from Omar Cooper. He might run away with it. No. Look, I lemons emerging. No. Antonio Williams? No. I mean, you're very dismissive of these guys. I'm joking. Caleb Douglas? Is anyone in a better setup than Tate, though? Definitely not. Oh, I think Tyson is if he's healthy. He's got a lot better deal with it. Yeah, but the volume could be amazing. Who is currently the number one rookie I'd receive her in fantasy points per game? Points per game? Yeah. Is this dribbling? No. I'm going to say take. Yeah? Bernard? Omar Cooper. Really? Caleb Douglas is second. Coronel Tates, third. Let's go to a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk about Jack. The best rookie running back. Call me. Yeah. So looking. I mean, you have to. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. When we come back, the best rookie running back and the easiest game of the week to preview after this. One of America's top true crime podcast 48 hours is back with a new season. Join us every Monday for a new episode and Tuesdays for a deep dive into that episode with Post-Mortem. He said, quote, "If they're going to die, I'm going to see them die." Plus, hear episodes from the 48 hours archive Wednesdays and Thursdays. So when listen to 48 hours, wherever you get your podcasts and subscribe to 48 hours plus on Apple Podcasts or ad-free listening. Place your bets. Jamie, who's the number one rookie running back per game? Jonah Coleman. I agree. Heath. And it's not really close. Yeah. Okay. I was trying to think, you know, at the end of the year, I'd do the superlatives. Like, there's no rookie quarterbacks. We'll have a couple of rookie wide receivers that emerge and have great second half's. The receivers, I think, are okay. You know, it's funny because we were kind of downplaying this class is potentially terrible and I think we've gotten two games, but some pockets of success for these guys. The running backs by the end of the season, my guess will be Coleman and it's not going to be Jeremiah Love. Could we do Jerry Price? Hey, guess who's here? Could be Mike Washington. Jacob Gibbs. Jacob is here. Hello, Jacob. Hey, everybody. What's up? How are we doing? He's been running like Brandon Ayuk. He's good. Welcome back. Welcome back. What was this? Ayuk's stuff? He's back. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't know if I want to be a part of Ayuk. I feel like I better work ethic. No, no. I just met your back. He's going to. He's being traded to the chiefs. That would be very exciting for me, actually. All right, Jacob's going to help us talk about Jacksonville and Baltimore, then the worryometer, and then whatever the heck he wants to talk about to end the show. Let's talk Jacksonville, Baltimore. I said it's the easiest game to preview, but I don't actually don't, I think that's a really stupid take. Concern of the game. Does Jacksonville throw enough when they win by 14 and more points? If they win by 14 and more points, I think they're 10 and a half point favorites. Well, they haven't had a game where they won by like 14. They have three games where they won by 24 or more points and in those three games, they have thrown 23, 29 and 17 passes. So, you know, you could see this being a low pass volume game for Lawrence. And then here's cool stat, Hansel. Since week four, Brenton Strange is second among tight ends and target per out run rate behind TJ Hockinson. That is pretty cool, Hansel. All right. Anyway, Jamie, I'll give you Jacksonville. Jay for Jacksonville, Jay for Jamie. Who do you like in this game? Start Trevor Lawrence. Start Basial to a nippy place. Start Chris Rodriguez if Basial toon is out. Start Parker Washington. Brent Strange is a good streaming tight end through Desperate Jacobi Mars. Okay. Trevor Lawrence, your deck press got at the Colts. Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence or Jaden Daniels against the Rams. Lawrence. Lawrence or Stafford? Lawrence. Lawrence or Love at New England. Lawrence. Does anyone disagree? Not with those names. He's my QB six. So, there's five guys I would start over Trevor Lawrence, but he's a pretty much a must-start quarterback that hopefully gets it down in the first three quarters. Who are your five guys ahead of him? I have burrow, pretty golf, May, Ellen. I would start Lawrence or Allen Swing. Allen at Minnesota Monday night. Okay. Jacob, if Basial toon doesn't play, where are you going to rank Chris Rodriguez against the Ravens? Yeah. Pretty high. What do you think about Patrick Mahomes of her Trevor Lawrence? I think I have them back-to-back in the rankings, and less than a half a point apart in the projections. And so, football coin. Okay. Yeah. So, I have Basial toon easily as a top ten guy, actually, him as a top five guy, if he plays. I think if he's out, Chris Rodriguez pushes up into that top 15-ish range, I think it drops off pretty hard after that. So, he'd be like right behind Chase Brown, Jonah Coleman for me this week. Okay. Baltimore's got a good run defense, so I will give them that 3.8 yards per carry to running backs, eighth best against the position, second fewest receiving yards per game allowed. James Cook just had 21 carries for 80 yards in a touchdown and two catches for 21 yards. He had a very good game, but wasn't exactly the easiest game for him. And then, yeah, for Parker Washington, would you guys start Parker Washington or Jonah Coleman this week? Coleman. Yep. Fair enough, yeah. Parker Washington or Chris Rodriguez if Basial toon were out. Washington. Yeah. Yep. Where do you have Washington? 20. 2018. Yeah, I haven't very high again, 16. Where do you have Zay Flowers? I have Zay at 21. Twenty-four. Twenty-four? I think I, yeah, I couldn't get the projections to work on Zay Flowers, doesn't it? Does not compute. So, I just put him at 24. All right. Would you start someone like Quinchon Judkins at the Saints over Zay Flowers? Non-pipier. Right. Okay. Would you start Derek Henry or Zay Flowers? Henry. Yeah, I mean, Zay Flowers had zero touches, so it's hard to say, to start him over any of these running backs that could have 20. I think that he has a better chance of creating a long play than these guys, like he's fine to start if you need upside. But yeah, I do seem kind of similar to Parker Washington, where it's like kind of nothing or a big play and that's it. I would start Zay over Henry and full PPR Henry and the other two formats. - How would you rank Ali Gordon? - This is just for the Henry conversation. This is the first game without Jacksonville's interior defensive lineman. - Yeah, right, Devon Hamilton. He plays about 50% of the snaps. He played 18% of the snaps last week. - They rotate guys a lot. That's a potential problem when everybody's healthy. It's not a problem when you're missing guys, but that's a big piece of their defense. - Yeah, last week they played the Jaguars. - Yeah, they played the Colts and held Jonathan Taylor to eight carriers for 23 yards. And Hamilton barely played in that game. So it is possible that they're going to have a very good run defense even without him. You look at the commanders, for example, and I'm not sure I'd buy it going forward, but the commanders played last week against Barkley, who's been great all year, did a great job against him. They did that without two starting defensive tackles. So it might be a scheme thing, you know, it might be more than just one of them. - It's just like, I'm not so down on Derek Henry, just because of the Jacksonville run defense. Like, it's been three bad weeks in a row. And I just don't think the team can, the offensive line's awful. - Well, he scored last week, he scored 14 points. - Well, he had a, he has 60 yards from Scrimmage or fewer in three straight games. - Is that gonna, I mean, they're 10 1/2 point underdogs. It's not gonna run that much. Well, he might not run that much. I agree, I'm terrified, give you four points. And by the way, one thing that might help him, Joe Fignano had a 33% running back target rate last week. That's-- - Let's put his eight flowers in the back field. - Yeah, and Justice Hill had eight targets. So I know you gotta be super desperate, but I just wanna throw him out. He's like a worse version of Dylan Samson. He usually gets three to four targets every week. And then he had eight last week for Fignano, you know, and again, they're gonna be probably trailing. - Yeah, you know what? We could probably, oh, we gotta talk about Brenton Strange here. Brenton Strange getting a ton of targets except for last week when Trevor Lawrence said 14 pass attempts. Ravens are, you know, they gave up four catches, 86 yards and a touchdown a concave last week. So it's not like a matchup to avoid necessarily. Jacob, where do you have Brenton Strange? - Behind Eli Raridon? - Oh wow. - I think he's a decent enough start, but I don't seem as like significantly different in a lot of these guys you could pick up off the waiver wire like Chico Conco or Raridon. - Got anyone to have him high? - Yeah, I think there's a better outcome for him. He Rarid is taking on one of the toughest matchups of the week with the Packers, you know, so I think Strange just you hope to see a little bit more concentrated targets for the Jaguars last week was, you know, somewhat of a no pun intended strange outcome for them. So this, you know, look, you never like to attach these type of intangibles 'cause you don't know what's gonna happen, but this is an MVP spotlight game for Trevor Lawrence. So if he comes out and has a big performance here, which he could, wouldn't shock me if that's something Liam Cohen does. He seemed like that type of coach. So I wouldn't be surprised if it's, you know, hey, go have a big game, especially if two is not there. Like this is gonna be a Trevor Lawrence game. - All right, would you start Brenton Strange or by the way, it's just the other thing on Raridon 'cause we don't know that Hunter Henry's gonna be out. So his status is uncertain according to Mike Vrable. It's just something to keep in mind here. Would you start Travis Kelsey against the Jets or Brenton Strange. - Kelsey. - Kelsey? - Strange. - Dallas Goddard against the Giants or Brenton Strange. - Goddard, the difference for me is all these offenses could drop back 40, 45 times. And that's, I just, I tied in particularly. I want route volume and it just bothers me to use Strange on the Jags. As many games with two or three targets as he does, for more than five. - I just don't know if the chiefs in particulars into which they did Kelsey have very much of a potential to drop back 40 times against the Jets. - All right. - They're almost as big a favorite as the Jags are. - All right, let's get some chat questions here. Real quick, stranger Isaiah, likely. - Lately. - Burrow or Brent's? - Burrow. - Burrow, should be one. - Parker Washington or Stefan Diggs against the Rams. - Washington. - Washington. - Parker Washington, Nico Collins, Jonah Coleman, Luther Burton, T Higgins, you need to sit too. Parker Washington, Nico Coleman, Luther Burton, T Higgins. - I must say Washington and Burton. - I would say Washington, Burton, that's fine, yeah. I think that's right. - All right. - I would sit. - I would sit Washington and Burton. - Malik Willis or Trevor Lawrence, we're going Trevor Lawrence. Parker Washington or Jalen Coker against the Broncos. - Washington. - Yeah. - I'm going Coker. - I asked this one about 10 minutes ago, but it's been a while, so Lawrence or Jordan Love. - Lawrence. - Yeah. - Parker Washington or Nico Collins, you guys basically just pick Nico Collins. Parker Washington or Luther Burton, you guys just pick Parker Washington. - I have Luther. - Oh. - No, Washington wasn't part of the previous one. - Oh. - Yeah, I have Burton also. - Yeah, Burton over washing my bad. - Oh, who was it then? It was, yeah, it was. - It was Nico. - We picked Coleman over both of them. - We said sit Washington and Burton. - We didn't forget. - We said sit Washington and Burton, okay, my bad. Gentier flowers. - Gentie. - This is one where I think I would go with flowers, 'cause we don't know if Gentie's getting 20 plus touches. - They may have the same amount of catches this week. - Yeah. - Ravens or Giants. - Giants. - And Derek Henry or Zach Sharbinay. - Oh gosh. - Henry. - Henry. - Yeah. - All right, that's it for Thursday night football. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Oh, it starts with Jaguar's DST. - Let's get out the worryometer. Zero to 100 on the worryometer. The first one is four players. All on Eli's team. Eli says worryometer on AJ Brown, Parker Washington, Zay Flowers and Jonathan Taylor. I will ask you to rank them most worried to least worried. AJ Brown, Parker Washington, Zay Flowers, Jonathan Taylor. - Most importantly, AJ Brown. - Yeah. - Zay. - Two would be Zay. - Yeah. - I'm not really worried about the other two, but I think I'm more worried about Parker Washington than I am Jonathan Taylor. - Yeah, I mean, look, Taylor's just such a wild card right now. I'd be a little bit worried if he stays with the Colts just because like that team is gonna be awful. - But they've been awful all year and he's still averaging 18.8 PPR. - Yeah, but they were awful with Quint Nelson and who knows what the quarterback situation may be, which could get worse, like. - Yeah, that's true. I mean, he struggled at the end of last year, wasn't like a must sit guy or anything, but yeah, he could definitely be worse. - Oh, he's never gonna be a must sit guy, you know, I mean, maybe when he's just facing an absolutely terrible matchup, if he goes through a stretch of games where he's awful, but if he stays within the enapolis, like what's the motivation for him and the team? Like, do they shut him down at some point? - They've got a great schedule, mostly great. All right, this one's from the mayor. What is your worryometer on? The guy in our league that doesn't watch football only made two moves all year, hasn't touched his fab and is crushing the league. And there he is on the worryometer. It looks familiar, huh? - It's Thomas? - Yeah. I was like, yeah, I just put a picture at Thomas. worryometer for the guy who doesn't deserve to be winning, but is crushing the league. - No worries at all. - No, it's a zero. He's going to continue doing this. - Yeah. - All right, let's go to Brett. He says worryometer on a mecca, a buka. Baker Mayfield can't complete a pass, literally. - 72. - I think this could be like one of the biggest week to week turn around as we see all year. I'm very curious what it'll look like. On the road against Chicago, Jeffrey Simmons, like are they just going to try to run the ball every single play? What happens if that doesn't work? - Oh, we got big news here, by the way. - I'm more worried about a buka's toe than I am about the offense because I agree with Jacob. Like they're not going to do this every week. They can't. And they're not going to do it this week. Like, so I'll say 40%. Dishon Watson isn't the concussion protocol. That's why they, who do they play this week? They play at a saints, one o'clock on Sunday. - All right, so what did you say, Jamie, 40? - 40. - We got a number, guys. - I don't think Jake, we gave it a number. - I think I'm about where Jamie is. - So it'd be 51.7. - Okay, I know where he's number. Otherwise, I would've done the math faster than Heath. Next up is Corey Green, worryometer on Omar Cooper, Jr. Two straight games with more than 22 fantasy points and then zero fantasy points. What's your worryometer on Omar Cooper, Jr.? - I always find this funny, like when we get questions about guys like this, because he's a bonus. Like, what are you worried about for somebody that you picked up off waivers that could clearly help your team? But you shouldn't have to be forcing him into your lineup. And I'm not saying that to be, you know, condescending. It's just like these type of players that just kind of come out of nowhere and I only say that because he missed so much time really in season. Like, I'm not worried at all. If he plays well, I'm gonna be thrilled about it. If he doesn't, I understand what I'm getting. - So let's change it to like 100% would be I'm dropping him right now. It's like the percentage chance I'm going to have to drop Omar Cooper. - 50 for me. that you're going to drop him, yeah, 30% that I'm going to drop him. I'm worried that I actually think this is a really good matchup for him against the Chiefs. I think that's a spot where he could get a lot of slot targets and I'm going to advise people to start him and they're going to get zero again. That does worry me. I thought he looked awesome on film. I wouldn't watch every route. I think that it could be a lot better than this and I think they'll go back and watch the film and see how often he was open and probably get in the ball more. But you also have 50s of bow ride, maybe more. There's so many options here. We're at 130 divided by 3. What do we do in here? Oh, I'm at 45. Oh, come on, man. 175 divided by 4 is 46-ish. No, we're not 5. I would not want to drop him, to be honest, like he's really good in play in and out of the slot, can do a bunch of different stuff, can win with the ball in his hands. If anything, we're going to happen to Garrett Wilson. This is someone who could actually take a wide easy for one target share. If you're comparing him to McIleman or Antonio Williams or Ryan Flannoy or any of the guys that we talked about to pick up this week, it feels like it's just making a lot of a move because you're going to have these weeks where these guys are good. Now, clearly, Williams has a path to consistent production because of McClaren's injury and Leman could have that same thing with Wix and Smith remain out. He's going to compete with two pretty talented guys in Garrett Wilson and Adna Mitchell. But I don't know, I think you're just kind of, you'll drop him one week, he'll have a big game against the Chiefs, you regret dropping him, you'll drop Williams in next week to pick up Cooper again. It's just that's the type of player he is. It's so annoying. It's not just the type of player he is, I'm stunned that Jeremy Bernard has had two bad games in a row. It really felt like that was so easy, he was going to get his targets every week along with DK Metcalf. It's just what we're dealing with here with this rookie class, we're not going to get consistent performances. That's why I put a 50 on the worry that I might have to drop him. So anyway, he's 44 on that scale. For Saquon Barclay, though, let's put Saquon Barclay on the worryometer, giants this week then a buy. How worried are we about Saquon Barclay? 37. 40. Yeah, I think I'm more like 70 or something, this guy can't get through a game. Stop using your calculator. I'm not using it. He has an advocate there. No, it's got to be, let's see, 1.40 divided by 3, that's about 45-ish, I don't know. 49. Yeah, whatever. That's what I said. I mean, come on, 45, what a terrible guess. Yeah, what's the concern here, Jacob, about Barclay? Just look at him. It's like the Mike Evans thing. It's like he's just constantly laboring through every single moment of every single game, except his team's not the 49ers who have super well aspirations. Yeah. The Evans stuff lasted like two games of where it looked like that, and then it was just like, okay, we have to stop this. This is obviously insane. But he's coming back this week after his buy, and so Barclay's got the giants this week, which I think would be good if he can stay healthy and then a buy. Hopefully he can get him. Let's just sit him this week, give him a nice two week break. I'm not saying that for the giants, we can beat them with single Barclay, or lose to them. But no, I think it'd be nice to get him healthy, wouldn't it? It'd be great to get him healthy. I mean, I like the fact that he's trying to play for a team that's clearly struggling. I like the fact that he's, he says he doesn't want me traded, so this game I'm sure is pretty important to him. So I'm sure he's going to try and do the best he can to be out there in a performance high level. I can't take Bixby at this point, he's 19% rostered. Okay. And let's go, we'll go a little faster here so we can save time for, for Jacob's thoughts at the end of the show. The real Luke wants to put George Pickens on the worryometer. George Pickens zero to 100. 25. 26. See, I've been 25, 26 all year, but the vibes are getting so weird and Dallas. Jerry said you gotta get him the ball. Yeah, Jerry says a lot of stuff. I don't feel great about it. Their schedule is pretty brutal for the last like five games. They have a week 14 buy, which is also not something I like for fantasy. I'm going to say like 55 or 60. Okay. That's somewhere in the 30s. I'm not, the 31, uh, 36. No, it's 31, but did you use 55 or 60? I don't think I did 50, I don't think. Yeah. All right. So it's some takes there on George Pickens who played a season low, ran a season low 65% of the routes. He's dealing with some injuries. Also the Cowboys have been pretty run heavy the last two weeks. They have the fourth lowest pass rate in football the last two weeks. But they've played Philadelphia and Arizona. You know, you're hoping now we got the colds coming in now. But then San Francisco Tennessee, Philadelphia Seattle, maybe they'll have to throw more in some of these games. I don't know. All right. I'm going to say that it is a 32 in full PPR and 75 and everything else. Yeah. Yeah. I'll say about 40. He wasn't getting that many points running the money. Anyway. He just lost like two points of game. I like the indices in schedule. It is 40, uh, 120 divided by three. I got that one. 40 on the worryometer for Ash and Gentie. Uh, like I said earlier in the show, the Raiders is going to apparently play the hot hand. If you look at them, Gentie versus Mike Washington side by side and EPA success rate yards before a contact after contact, avoid rate, Washington has in beat in most categories. And Gentie is basically terrible in all of them. He's just truly, you know, been one of the worst russians, at least efficient rushers. Uh, yeah. I don't know what we got here with with Gentie. We're drafting again today. What round do you think he goes in in a 12 team league? PPR? This on the box score last week for you in round two. Round two. Well, that was last week before this big of course. Yeah. I think it's yeah, not way different than Jeremy. I love them. I'd be a bad take, but you're truly just hoping that he gets healthy out of the by week, late in the season and then crushes for like five weeks into the playoffs. So really the only team where I'm holding or trading for Gentie is a team where I kind of forward to wait on that and not get any points in the future. Cause I don't know if you can start in this week, where do you guys have him ranked this week? I'm running back 25. He's like 20. Uh, yeah. Full PPR. I think he's 19 and non PPR. I think he's 30 something. Gentie is facing a team that gives up the most receiving yards per game and running backs. So hopefully, um, they're going to be chasing. So that's their help. I'm. All right. Austin wants Tyler Warren on the worryometer. Speaking of inefficient, he is 31st out of 32 tight ends with 25 or more targets. In yards per target, yards per catch and a dot for what that's worth. Tyler Warren is 35 is Alex Pierce going to play again? Who pretty easy to get yards after catch when you're a dot is one, um, feels like a decent enough PPR scheme as long as he stays healthy and we might get 10 targets every week. So for fantasy football, PPR purposes, my worryometer is like 10 15. What did you say, Jamie? I said 35. I mean, we could have Anthony Richardson starting soon, which is just bad for all the past catchers. That's fair. And he's not getting a lot of yak right now, which, you know, you would think would change, but his big play rate is putrid. It catches great teen yards. Yeah. I mean, his big play rate was 14.3 percent last year. It's 4.3 percent this year. You would think that would change. I mean, I don't know how it could be that low, um, to be fair. If they trade Taylor, he could be their best running back. And the last one is Justin Jefferson, Justin Jefferson, uh, five. Wow. I mean, it went good start. If, uh, if it's relative to the people who drafted in around one, I would say it's probably like 28. Yeah, I've been kind of nervous all year, um, I'll say of 20. Okay. It's not that low. It's not that high, then it's not like he's a 70 or anything like that. Nobody's going to be sitting him. Yeah. It's pretty bad, though. What is it? It's 55 or fewer yards and four of six games. No, three of six games. You left one of those games early or three of five games. I guess. Yeah. Oh, wait. Yeah. He played six games. He left one of them after 20, 12 percent of the snaps. So, I don't know. It's been rough. I was less worried before we, we gave him. He had to touch down, but Kyler's playing so poorly. Yeah. I think Wentz would help. And it seems like his post-game reaction was basically a signal. I never got it. We got to get Justin Jefferson in the ball. Buffalo this week. Come on. We got to get going here. All right. Great. Uh, now we're going to, we can't do great the trade today. Sorry, folks. Let's do, uh, grade the Jacob. Jacob, you are going to be graded on a, uh, yeah, F2A, uh, scale here, which is just being graded. I don't know why it's so bad. Okay. So go for it. Give us, drop us some fantasy knowledge. Yeah. I came prepared. So, I, I feel confident that I can do okay here, um, grade out pretty well. I've got five running backs. I want to talk to you about, um, and if you want, I can dig into even more, I'm looking at red zone data. Um, so I do this every time we come beyond the box score where I dig into rest of season rankings update, um, and then look at the usage, you know, it's for every team, every back field. I want to talk about it. about Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs has 88% of the whole teams touches inside the 10 yard line since returning. He already has 15 PPR points inside the 10, three and a half touches per game inside the 10, six red zone touches per game. So those are all monster numbers for reference. There are five running backs averaging over four red zone touches per game on the year. He's 17, six, those five running backs are Jumir Gibbs, 5.9, Kenneth Walker, 5.1, Derek Henry, 4.9, Javante Williams, 4.6 and John Jerry Swift, 4.5, red zone touches per game. I want to talk about Henry first here. I'm pretty nervous about what we've got going forward. If this is, I mean, they're implied for the fewest points of any team this week. If that's what we're going to have consistently for the Ravens, I think that that is a huge, huge change. Obviously, we worry about playing from behind and just that affecting his total touches, is playing time and all that. He's been GameScript sensitive, but also, he's just been very touchdown dependent. He has 66% of the Ravens touches and 47% of the Ravens touchdowns from inside the 10 yard line over the past two seasons. Those are by far the highest rates in the NFL. The Ravens have been 35% less likely to produce touchdowns with the March X and off of the field on a per-play basis. I think over the course of like full games, it's probably even wider discrepancies than that, right? We all feel how much different it is. I've got to run back 20 this week. I haven't run back 18 rest of season. I don't really know what to do with him. I would, people are like, trade him for a student. I would be so thrilled if I could do that. There's a lot of running back so I know. I'd trade him for Chase Brown. There's a lot of guys I would flip Henry for easily. I'm curious what you all think about. Oh, I mean, in a heartbeat, if somebody said, here's Chase Brown for Derek Henry, I couldn't hit except fast enough. I think just looking at the situation like, yeah, it's bad. Now again, they may find somebody that is Tyler Huntley level or better. I say that obviously very hopeful that that's the floor. It's not easy to fight overbacks. Jacobi Bressett is a easy player to sort of peg and say that's somebody that they're looking at as a trade target. Mac Jones would be a dream. You've heard, I think it was our former colleague who's very tied to the Baltimore area in the Ravens. Jason Locke-O-Fora, he suggested Tyson Begent because of the tie-in with Declan Doyle when they were on the Bears together. This is what we're looking at here. Those guys excite you for Derek Henry or even Zae Flowers. I don't know if that could be the case. Those guys were good with Huntley to a degree. They weren't Lamar Jackson. They weren't producing like they were with Lamar Jackson. If you could unload Derek Henry as he said, you're selling low, but you're selling low for a reason. Just to say one thing about Henry here, he has a season in his somewhat recent history, 2022, where he averaged about 19 PPR points per game. He was RB4. This is a full PPR on the 28th ranked offense in the NFL. This wasn't even like vintage Henry. This was a year where he averaged 4.4 yards per carry. This year he's averaging 4.0. So that is actually a big change, but he was, but he averaged 22 carries for game almost. He's also 26 then. Yeah, 28. No, it's not the same. It's probably not the same player, but he does have a history of being on a terror. He's one of the only running backs who's been on a terrible offense in the last like decade and been a top five running back on a per game basis. He embraces all the only ones I could find really. Okay, go ahead, Jacob. Sorry. So if you're watching on YouTube here, you see on the screen, this is there are six running backs who have accounted for at least half of their offenses touchdowns from inside the 10 yard line. So the whole team, not just the backfield. And you can see here the percentage of the touches, the percentage of the snaps and the percentage of the touchdowns from inside the 10 yard line, along with the fantasy points that they've scored from inside the 10. So Henry's up there at the very top 50% Baltimore's total touchdowns inside the 10 yard line. I want to talk about Bucky Irving, man. Bucky Irving has 55% of the box touchdowns from inside the 10, which is tied with two behuppered for the highest rate in the league. He has a 52% red zone touch share, which is up to 61% over the past month. So running back six and the percentage of the teams touches inside the red zone sandwich in between Jonathan Taylor and Javante Williams. This is not at all what we got from Bucky Irving last year. He had seven touches from inside the 10 all year long. He already has six touchdowns from inside the 10. Oh, wow. This year, he's been so good. Like he's completely turned this season around. Like shout out Jayland Daniels, of course, but like Bucky really has just been the heart of this team and has turned them around and now they're actually competitive in their division. And it's all been through him. I mean, before the second half last week, where it just, I mean, it was just a weird game, but like he was clearly this started at 19 of 25 running back touches over 70% snapper. I think that they went to gain one more so that Bucky didn't die. Like he's an absolute bell cow locked in. The offense runs through him. Okay. I don't know what to do with that information necessarily because I don't know how good this offense will be. But to me, like, I see him and Jalen Warren sort of similarly with the clear distinction that there's no funny business happening in the red zone. There's no Rico Dattle. It's clearly Bucky in that area as the main difference between those two. Yeah. He's had a very light schedule lately. Go back to his last bad matchup week six against Pittsburgh. He had a terrible game before that terrible game against Green Bay, terrible game against Minnesota. So his he's destroyed Dallas, Carolina and Atlanta recently. His next two games were against teams that are top five against running backs at Chicago and at Detroit. And there's a buy in between there too. Sounds like I'm selling you to sell high on Bucky Irving, but I don't think I would because I mean, I tell him like be John, but you know, he should be involved in the passing game if Baker Mayfield throws footballs. You know, that's kind of been a thing is seven, four and four targets and three games with with Baker Mayfield. But I can't I love Bucky Irving. I can't let go. I can't not mention the fact that he's been very matchup dependent this year. Sure. Yeah. Two of the guys after that stretch. I'm sorry. We 12 on. It's a great schedule for him. Go ahead. Yeah. Two of the guys want to talk about our DeAndre Swift clearly. 58 points inside of the 10-yard line this year. You see here on the screen like the leading score inside of the 10. DeAndre Swift has 27 touches inside the 10 this year. Last year James Cook had 27 all year. He was the running back nine with 27 touches inside the 10. Javante had 31 from that range. He had 12 touch sounds inside the 10. Those are like top three numbers. Swift already has 27 touches inside the 10 and nine touchdowns inside the 10. He had 23% of the team's touches inside the 10 last year. That's about 53%. Like it's just a completely different role. I think Menanga will cut into that sum. But I also think that they're just prioritizing him differently than they did last year. They're like designing targets to him way more than they did last year. I'm curious where you add on like Swift. I feel like Javante, Swift, Kyron Williams always just kind of get lumped into one group. But to me, the Bears offense right now clearly feels the best of that group. Any thoughts on Swift or S.O. season? I think the big question is what is the split when Menanga is 100% because he has like that. It seemed like that very the first two games. It was a pretty even split with Swift and Roshan because they were kind of blowouts. And then the last two, it hasn't been at all. If he has this share of the work that he's had the last two weeks for the rest of season, then I think he's probably ahead of all those guys you said. Well, if the Kyron cop is the best one because of Kora, you know, so you're seeing what it looks like for a guy that loses work to a pretty talent back up. And I think that's the case. I just feel like in the case of what we're seeing with Swift now. And clearly that speaks more to Roshan. I think that anything else because he's just not as talented as Menanga is. They're just not going to trust the second guy like they would when Menanga is healthy. That being said, we don't know what Menanga is going to be healthy. They could have and probably should have put them on IR to free up a roster spot. And they decided not to do so. So they have this week, then they go into their buy and we'll see what this looks like for them rest of season. But at this point, like you got to feel pretty confident in Deandre Swift and just hope that Menanga doesn't ruin him more than 10 or 15% of the production again. So for what it's worth weeks one through three Deandre Swift had 11 touches inside the 10. And Menanga had three. And then the next week, Swift got bench for fumbling. Menanga ended up with seven touches inside the 10 yard line. But in the first three weeks of the season, when Swift played his normal snapshot, he was dominating touches inside the 10, 11 to three feels like, I don't know, maybe a little fluke. I wouldn't expect it to be that lopsided with Menanga. Menanga's run really well this year and Swift really has it. I mean, is he under four yards per carry at this point? I know you just had a terrible efficiency game against the Seahawks, but it was 4.1 going into that game. I'm wondering if this is the peak value for Deandre Swift. But again, I don't, just like Jamie said, I have no idea when Menanga is coming back. Swift or Bucky rest of season. Swift. Swift. I do have Swift. I just have so much more confidence in this Bears offense, like the Bears offense, to your point, hasn't even run the ball like they did last year and still looks unstoppable. I think Caleb has tapped into a different level of play than we've seen from in the past. More consistent, a little bit more accurate, like he's obviously always had the top end tools, but like just the little things are coming together where it's like this offense is going to be really hard to stop. All right. Anything else? A couple, couple, few more minutes. Jonah Coleman, obviously this could get thrown off by a trade or something if Jonathan Taylor goes to Denver, but 46% of the red zone touches and 50% of the inside the 10-yard line touches of God of Coleman in the three games that he's played, weeks two, seven and eight, those are really high rates and it's only a three game sample, but it's also a rookie who only until recently, like, you know, was just fighting for extra playing time, you know, to me, the fact that even in those games, he got a lot of touches inside the 10-yard line is really notable, and it isn't like, you know, 50% of two touches, he had eight touches inside the 10-yard line on the year in three games. He has eight touches inside the 10-yard line. That's more than a Ramajray Stevenson has all year. That's more than Chris Rodriguez or Cam Scoutiboo have all year. That's more than the entire Minnesota backfield has all year. That's more than Jalen Warren and Rico Dattle combined all year inside the 10, going to Jonah Coleman in three games. I think he is in endearing running back. I think he does every single thing that a coach wants. He's a great pass protector. He fights for extra yards. He gets what's there. I don't think he's giving this job up unless he gets hurt or I guess they just decide to trade for Jonathan Taylor or something. Why? I just don't do it. And just for the team, they've had such a tough schedule. It's twice Jaguars, Rams, Niners, Chargers, Seahawks, Cardinals. The rest of their schedule is Panthers, Raiders, Twice, Steelers, great defense, Dolphins, Jets, Bills, Patriots. It could be a very good defense. I'm not saying every single week is a layout, but the difference between the first half of the Bronco schedule and the second half of the Bronco schedule is immense. It is so much easier on paper. Good stuff. Cool. Anything else? Kind of red zone splits you want to know, you want me to look at basal students, that's for you. No, I think we know how you feel about basal students. He's good. He's good. I hope he plays on Thursday, I really, really hope we can start him again. Jacob, thank you for joining us. For sure. Thanks for having me. It was fun. How about that? A plus. No, it didn't. No, you got to make, yeah, keep them hungry, he's in place the next time he comes on the show. Thanks for watching Listen to Everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow, start to sit for the AMC home game, see ya. Paramount Podcasts. Now streaming on Paramount Plus. I'm Dexter Morevin. I've been killing killers for half my life. It gets to you. You're having a midlife crisis. I'm not ready for that. He's back. I'm older. I'm wiser. Yeah. And sharper than ever. Things are going to get messy. But if I can't believe in myself, I can't believe in anything. Dexter Resurrection, new season now streaming on the Paramount Plus premium plan.