Week 7 Preview: One Stat for Every Game. Plus, Ken Walker Revenge Game, Super Bowl Jay-Z, Darth Vader vs. Troy Aikman, and LaMelo Travelled.

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And we'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. The mellow ball broke DK. All that and more after the break. This episode is presented by Verizon. Let me tell you all about Verizon's new Simplicity plan. You get one plan, one price, just $30 a line per month, even for a single line. So while everyone is running four trade analyzers before offering a backup tight end, Verizon said one plan, one price. Sometimes the simplest move is the best one, like the Simplicity plan. Head to Verizon.com today. For new customers who switch to Verizon, $30 per line includes auto pay and switch discount. Additional taxes, fees, and terms apply. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heifetz, and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Korolbeck, and we are going over all the games from, week seven of the NFL season. Starting with, there are actually some awesome games this week. Starting with Sunday Night Football, game of the year? Yeah. Kansas City Chiefs at Seattle Seahawks. DK, the return of Ken Walker, Super Bowl MVP to Seattle on Sunday Night Football. Yeah, this is an awesome matchup. My stat for this game, let's just get right into it. Kenneth Walker is averaging 133 rushing yards per game. The Seahawks have not given up 100 yards to an individual rusher in 35 straight games. Going back to 2014, their run defense is among the best in the NFL, if not the best in the NFL, the Seahawks is. They're giving up 3.4 yards per rush this year. Their defensive EPA per rush is second best behind only the Vikings. They've given up just nine explosive runs so far in six games. So it is going to be such a fascinating match of how both teams attack this. The Seahawks have been really, really good at stopping the run and making opposing teams one-dimensional. Is that really what you want to do? Put the game on Patrick Mahoney. Shoulders or I just think it's going to be a fascinating matchup. The Chiefs, by the way, I saw this from Aaron Schatz. This is the best Chiefs start since his first season as a starter, since Patrick Mahoney's first season as a starter per DVOA. So this is a very good Chiefs team. Do you think there's obviously Kenneth Walker probably is going to feel a certain type of way about wanting to stick it to the Seahawks in this game. Do you think there's any version of that in reverse for Seattle or is the motivation all on the side of Kansas City? I would say probably more the latter. I don't feel like the Seahawks have ill will towards Kenneth Walker. I think they probably understand why he wanted to go and be a bell cow back for a team that really wanted to utilize his skill set the way that they're utilizing it. I don't know. It's you never know like how the personal relationships were, but it feels like I think Kenneth Walker was all good with everybody on the team. I would disagree. I mean, I think you're right that like, is there personal animosity between them when you ask them in like June? No, but like this week, if you think about it, you think the Seahawks defense is not like we're going to fucking shut down Ken Walker. Well, I think that's like a pride thing more than like, fuck Kenneth Walker. Like we, I think it's more like we can stop Kenneth Walker. That I guess that's a little like slight difference there, but I think it's more of a pride thing. I and like you think this is like when like two divorced parents can get along and kind of co-raise their like Seattle and Ken Walker are both good with each other. And it was just business, right? Just some people just don't, you know, just aren't meant to be married. Okay. The Super Bowl MVP, having to leave because he couldn't get paid enough. You don't think he's upset. I think he's upset. Okay. You do. So you do think he's pissed? Yes. I think Kenneth Walker absolutely wants to stick it to the Seahawks. I was reading this great article from Mike, Michael Sean guard to guard from the athletic today. And I don't know if I actually had seen this written down before and it might be out there already, but the Seahawks didn't officially make him an offer. He just kind of left. I don't think I realized that they'd made him no formal offer. I think that the same thing happened with the Giants and Saquon. And it's because once you've decided that you're not going to pay a running back, and this is for any position, but like the running back position is the one where they're like, they've just decided we're not going to pay anything near market rate. He's priced out of the. Yeah. It's like 14, 50 million a year. And they're like, well, if we offer you 11, that's both insulting to you, but we're actually not going to do that either. Like they wouldn't even make an insult. They wouldn't even accept an insulting rate. They're just using that money elsewhere in the roster. So the number that they would take him at is so insulting that they'd rather not offer at all. But then the player is like, holy shit, they didn't even make me an offer. So yeah, Ken Walker's pissed, but this is interesting because the Seahawks, one of the reasons the Seahawks defense is so good is because of how they stopped the run. Like the simplest answer for what, why is the Seattle defense so good? It is in an insanely complicated answer, but the shortest version is they can stop the run with six guys in front instead of seven in the box, which is how Mike McDonald talked about it this week. And they're able to stop the run with in dime or nickel pack. Packages, which is they can have six defensive backs on the field instead of four and stop the run with better than some teams who have four defensive backs on the field. And like the chiefs are the best rushing team in the NFL, probably this season. And like, this is a really interesting thing to see. It's going to win. It's like the, it's the, the it's kind of like last year when the Seahawks played the Rams, it was like strength on strength. This is like going to reverberate around the league. Like this is like the best strength on the best strength in the whole league. Really. It'll be very cool to watch. Yeah. And those games, I mean, a couple of the games, so the Rams were pretty high scoring. The Rams kind of figured it out and were able to put up big numbers on the Seahawks last year at certain times. And I think to your point, I have, it's like stopping the run with six and, you know, not having to crowd the box too much and still be able to stay in nickel and all that stuff. It starts up front with the Seahawks. They have some ass kickers on the defensive line. Byron Murphy has kind of come into his own. He's turning into a star. I don't know if he's a household name at this point, but he is one of the best defensive tackles in the NFL. He's just so good at, you know, stonewalling blocks, taking on double teams, not letting the line of scrimmage move, and then allowing guys behind him to kind of like fill and make their tackles. The Seahawks have some really good tackling cornerbacks and defensive backs. So that's the chief strength too. It's the tackling of the defensive backs against Ken Walker. Who's like up there with Jameer Gibbs and Bijan is the best tackle breaker making guys miss in the entire league. And the interior offensive line for the chiefs is the strength, right? Like they're surviving with a, an undrafted for agent or a seventh rounder rookie at left tackle. They had of Indiana. You know what I mean? Like Josh Simmons got put an injured reserve. He's probably not going to play this season. Like the interior of the chiefs line is the strength. So I, yeah, it'll be very cool. It'll be very cool. Chris Collinsworth, Craig, what's the over under on Chris Collinsworth orgasms live on air. Oh my God. The Ken Walker, Patrick, he's going to be like, it's like chocolate and peanut butter. Mike, this is just the greatest combination I've seen since sliced bread. DK, the Seahawks, if they lose this game, we'll lose three games in a row. And looking at their schedule, it's, you know, it's a little, when you look back at the last six games, it's like, so they beat new England by three with drew lock. They beat Arizona. Then they lost to Washington with Mariotta. Then they beat Herbert by seven. And then they've now lost to the niners in the Broncos. Yeah. And the chiefs are five and out and look back to like the old chiefs. Are you surprised the Seahawks are favored in this game to win? I guess this is all home field advantage. Yeah. I think it's like a home thing. Yeah. It's a home thing. It's a respect for the Seahawks defense thing. Certainly. And you know, the Seahawks, the Achilles heel this year has been the turnovers. They've, they should have won probably all the games they lost this year. If they just hadn't turned the ball over at, at really poor times. So I think it is, I think it's, you know, the Seahawks are still a very good team. They still have a very good defense particularly. And I think the offense can get there, but it's just not executing right now. But yeah, I mean, it's, it's essentially respect for the CX defense and the home thing. I think the home field advantage certainly helps. And the other one, so Zach Charbonneau is activated. He might play this week. He might not, but at the very least he's off the physically unable to perform list. He might be active this game. I don't know if he's going to play so much, but you know, obviously the Seahawks are desperate at running back. They let Ken Walker go. Charbonneau has been hurt all year. Jadarian price, the first run picks on injured reserve. You know, you've got, you know, George Alani and Emmanuel Wilson, like the Seahawks running games in a bad place. So we'll see if Charbonneau is even active, but he is back. Yeah. One, one quick note. I noticed this week too, that I did not know before. Kenneth Walker has a brother, a younger brother who is in high school, I believe, and his is also kenneth walker oh george foreman yeah exactly it's kenneth walker the third and keth walker the fourth wow which is great how do they do you think one goes by kenny one goes by kenneth what do you think a good question i don't know i can look into that you say that i i actually am surprised that doesn't happen more usually it's a generational thing i know but now that i think about it i feel like a lot of times there's like the first to me night is when it's dark well obviously i know that that's how it happens but i'm saying sometimes the other kid is like oh my older brother is like ken walker jr and i'm just like bill walker and then it's kind of you're making all the siblings feel equal you know it's like the younger the younger kids are already getting shafted right these kids are already getting all the secondhand clothes and the parents don't care as much like it's kind of maybe it's nice to be ken walker the fourth can i ask a stupid question is is jr the same thing as the second i don't think it is it is usually it's like so but you can choose which one to call them you can say because if you have two sons and you name them both ken walker they're not both junior only one is junior the first one yeah interesting that feels wrong i think ken walker the second is junior ken walker the third could he be a junior i'm asking if that's if that if that's possible because i know you typically it's like you have a son you name them after yourself they can they're a junior and then you know if you go to the next generation it makes it but if you have two sons with the same name is ken walker the second also ken walker jr but ken walker the third is not ken walker jr yes yes i think that's right yeah that's kind of i want to say i think kenneth walker his dad's name is ken walker jr but there's no differentiation if you're a junior i should ask my dad my dad's a junior i'm no i think that is a differentiation i think if you're junior you're not you just said the second i think that'd be weird but is it the same thing it's the same thing it's just it's just what do you mean it's the same it's just it's semantics most people go by junior but you are the same but well i don't i don't know if it's semantic you're not gonna you're not gonna have a junior followed up by kenneth walker the second no i know it's literally the same but i feel like if i i know a lot of people named junior and i feel like if i called them the second they would look at me like i had three heads yeah but it but it is literally true right right that's no it's you can be called the second but i feel like generally it's like until you have the third you're not the second oh interesting i'm not saying you can't be a lot of people do that but in my lived experience if i i have a lot of friends who are like the junior and i just feel like if i said to them it's a one-off and you wouldn't name somebody the second unless there were plans for a third yeah you're kind of doing that for this you're really you're making a brand browns that i do but i'm like i don't know i just email us if you were named the second or anything out of order i kind of want emails for your fancy football gmail bangles are at the ravens yeah uh my one stop for this game is that lamar jackson is seven and two against joe burrow and i wouldn't have guessed that i wouldn't have either and this game matters a lot for both teams the more i looked at this uh lamar looks like he's coming back he's gonna play in this game uh ravens are coming off a bad loss to cleveland but dude the bangles are three and two if the bangles lose this game to baltimore baltimore is going to have five wins cleveland's playing tennessee if they win they're gonna have five wins and the steelers are playing new orleans and if they win they're gonna have five wins so if the bangles lose this game every other team in the division is gonna have five wins and the bangles are gonna have three they're gonna be dead last in the division they're gonna have to once again claw themselves to fight for even a wild card and also with baltimore it's like baltimore has the fourth best odds to win the super bowl and it's like they're finally kind of have ever still and it's like they finally have lamar henry zay and if you want to throw in the promising rookie jacoby lane back in this game um and so to me this is just like the highest stakes game that i've ever played in my life and like the highest stakes game of the season for both teams and then you go one step further and think about what happens if the bangles don't make the playoffs and joe burrow decides to force joe burrows in pittsburgh steal it right right if in ipso facto he's in pittsburgh right yeah joe burrows in l.a ram and right stafford god can we not oh that would be sweet i'm down with that that'd be cool the burrow burrow in l.a i mean that just makes sense i thought he's already on the crystals i send him to the chargers yeah the well it actually might gonna need a lot more crystals for the chargers uh i this game is interesting for a lot of reasons i will say lamar some of lamar's best highlights ever over cincinnati but i will say the um this is also trey hendrickson on the ravens versus cincinnati which is interesting but i i also think dexter lawrence who's playing amazing for cincinnati against the ravens interior offensive line where they just created traded they have cam jurgens et cetera but like the ravens offensive line the interior vega you wanna like that's a huge matchup it will probably go a long way to determining this game is the imp like dexter lawrence can he like this is where he gets paid yeah i should also point out that a guy that we haven't really discussed much this year who was like an early second round pick in drafts is chase brown who's just straight up bad and he's been one of the worst picks in the second round he's getting the ball a lot and he's just not doing anything with it his yards per carry his yards per touch uh all that stuff is just down his success rates low as he fumbled he got kind of benched in the last game and p ryan came in and basically took all of his carries so uh something to keep an eye on like i think you're still starting chase brown and i i if i had to bet i would still probably say that he's going to come back and be totally fine the rest of the season but it's now been a while like it's been five weeks of him not doing a whole lot and it's happened a lot i feel like he started slow a lot of years and he's always a buy low he's probably by low again i will say also do we know if lamar jackson's playing like for sure like we still we don't know for sure today i think he's gonna play yeah i have a theory on this because it feels like lamar is always like an injury mystery right like we never know what the hell is going on with lamar's injuries and i realized this week that it's because he doesn't have an agent right yeah there's nobody agents aren't talking to the media nobody's leaking it to the any of the insiders what's wrong with him so no one he just gets a return timeline and he's telling his mom instead of his agent and his mom's not telling any of us so that's why we never know what the hell is going on with him that's a great point never thought about that the other yeah everyone's like i guess we'll just wait and see if he shows up to practice let's see how he looks it's so funny in the 70s we're just like we'll see if he's at the game on wednesday cameras caught him walking up a little walkway towards the locker room and he was really kind of struggling to get up that walkway he was limping really pronounced and then today on thursday he's just out there practicing it looks fine so i don't know what the yeah you just never know what lamar football's hard man uh it is the other thing with this game is i think jim nance and tony romo or sorry not jim nance and romo so that's over jim nance and uh jj watt are announcing this game did you mean to do that or no i actually just out of habit wrote down jim nance and tony romo yeah yeah i think i did uh but they extended jj watt's contract so he's going to officially he was kind of the interim announcer now he's officially replaced tony romo including doing the super bowl with jim nance next like 2028 season or no sorry the 2028 super bowl with jim dance yeah and there's i'm sure they were already negotiating this but i do think it's kind of funny that jj watt just like basically was like hey jim nance punched me really hard and jim nance got hurt and they're like pay that man i know hey we can't wait another week there's a lot of announcer drama going on right now the whole acheman buck thing is super weird it is really weird can you give me a real quick summation of that situation because i haven't read up on it really roy acheman might do the super bowl with joe buck and then never free agent they might never work together again well that's a short answer well espn extended joe buck and hasn't extended acheman and i think acheman was like what the i thought we were a package deal we should be doing this together and buck just kind of quietly signed and now acheman's really upset i think did they almost fight apparently they got a huge screaming match wow so and then they did and this was before they did last monday night where it seemed fine on the broadcast because that's what you got to do i guess it's like how the three of us you know we're always screaming at each other right before we record well no we just screaming we're fine airing our dirty laundry they had a very very contentious back and forth i guess and so i don't know i don't even i mean hell i don't know i wonder if they've been they're gonna do the super bowl this year it's the espn that's the thing it's so weird the weird thing was acheman worked for the dolphins and i think they were trying to like be like well he works for the dolphins what are we gonna do and i'm like i think he wants to keep doing the announcing thing i don't know but uh acheman has the look about him i just wouldn't want to start a fight with that guy no i he's like he's just like he's got like the bloodshot eyes and he's just big hands old-school movie star look to him you know what i mean i'm like i'm not i'm not talking to this guy in any way we're wondering who would win in a fight sean mcveigh or treyman and i'm like dude i don't try acheman like six three and yeah thick he's huge and they're like when he's young and ripped i'm like dude that's true first of all he was on the 90s almost 60. he's stabbing people oh true he's six four trey acheman 59 years old so he's 20 years older than mcveigh but he's probably fought michael irvin like that guy's gonna beat sean think about the hits he must have taken in the 90s yes he's tough as nails can't feel pain probably no i yeah right oh okay don't hurt yeah a pain donor is god it's true uh next game also another fun rivalry game packers are at the lions this game is so much better than it looked a few weeks ago this could be fireworks yeah i mean so my one stat is the lions are allowing the most points per game in the nfl on offense and the lions are allowing the most points per game in the nfl on defense i love that great combo i they're the rainbow strip they're the most rainbow strip that's ever rainbow stripped the mario like just every game goes vroom vroom i think the average game total was like 61 for them or something it's like the 2009 saints basically But now they played a fewer game. So it's like points per game. They're basically just tied for first in both categories. But they're getting Cade Mays back at center this week. And they're getting Brian Branch back on defense probably this week. Oh, that's a bummer. Their defense is going to get better. I know. It's too bad. Less entertaining. Less points. No, but it should be like a total back and forth. And again, Christian Watson and Matthew Golden are toward the top of the league. Both of them separately in end zone targets and deep shots and everything. Imagine Matthew Golden could have caught all those touchdowns. I mean, Matthew Golden's been like a top 12 fantasy receiver. Like it's the whole Watson's top three. There was another play in that game, which we forgot to, I think, mention where Christian Watson caught a pass over the middle and then got up and kept running. And then they blew it dead. But no one had touched him. I was like, what? Why are you calling that down? I get it. I'm like, you know what, man? The more I'm always like, why did you do that? I'm like, dude, it's hard, man. No one was near him. I don't know. Ridiculous. The other. The other big thing. Obviously. For this Packers Lions game. So Josh Jacobs is coming back for the Packers this week. So Josh Jacobs, the running back, he had been placed in the commissioners exempt list for the first six games of the season, which is basically like a suspension before they can do the suspension. So they're like pre suspending him. And so Josh Jacobs, he initially faced. I'm just reading from the athletic now. Josh Jacobs initially faced five charges relating to domestic abuse, including felony strangulation, suffocation. But the district attorney ultimately only charged him with misdemeanor battery and misdemeanor criminal damage to property, which basically. And he pleaded no contest to it in September. And so the commissioners exempt list again. So he's off it now because the suspension ultimately wouldn't have been more than six games. So he's off it now after the six game ends. And there is like a video of this incident that there's been this whole legal back and forth about, you know, whether it will come out or not wanting it sealed. And obviously the NFL doesn't want it out. Josh Jacobs doesn't want it out. The other person in the altercation has filed to try to get it sealed. And so basically. If the video came out, I think there would be a huge backlash against Josh Jacobs. And if the video does not come out, I think that this will probably just kind of come and go quietly, which is not maybe how things should be. But I do think that is how things are. And so I don't know what's going to happen or who's obtained the video or what. But that really will probably have a huge impact on how big the story becomes. But in the meantime, he's probably going to be the Packers running back for the rest of the season. He doesn't even know if he's playing this week. And I don't know if he will either. But from how much he'll be active. Or how much he'll play. But going forward after this week, I do think Josh Jacobs is just the starter for the Packers going forward. Also, just based on the way that the Packers are. The way they're speaking in interviews suggests that he's going to be back on this team and play. And that's the thing. I mean, the Packers. I mean, Matt LaFleur needs production. And the Packers are dead last in rushing yards, even though they've played six games. They're behind the Bengals. The Bengals have only played five games. It's hard to be dead last in total rushing yards when you haven't had a bye week yet. It's actually wild. How? How well they've been able to pass down the field, considering they have no run game. Honestly. I know. Sometimes I don't get it. It's like Mahomes got ruined for three years because they put two safeties back. I'm like, why can't. I don't understand. Why can Christian Watson and Matthew Golden just get open every time? Well, I think it's partially related to that happened at the same time they got rid of Tyree Kill in Kansas City. And they were trying to just have like, you know, random fast people run. No, I know, I know one of the best receivers ever. I know it just goes back to the whole like too high change the NFL offense thing. And I'm like, well, Green Bay's figured it out. We're in a different era. I think that one, again, it was it's not too. It's like they just put another pass defender out there. Yeah. And now teams are like, yeah, you can run the ball. But I know you're saying really, but the Packers can't run the ball. So why are they passing? So that's my point. I'm like, how is this? Yeah, I don't really know, man. The Texans are the same thing to me. Right. I think next game here, the San Francisco 49ers are at the Atlanta Falcons. Yeah. This is a good game. I think it'd be kind of a fun game. Considering, I guess I put it that way because you never know what Falcons are two and four. Yeah, the Falcons are two and four. Like on paper, this looks like a terrible game. But I am actually quite interested to watch this one. The stat that is that I'm going to bring here is about Mike Evans. This is from our buddy, Stephen Ruiz. Mike Evans is averaging.33 EPA per route run, which was the highest mark in the next gen stats era by a wide margin. Can you explain what that means for a second take? Because sometimes you say every route he runs is worth a third of a point. So every three times Mike Evans runs a route, the Niners basically get a point. And it's basically just it's about explosive plays, touchdowns, getting the ball close to the end zone or getting the ball into scoring position. And he's just been incredibly valuable to the 49ers offense. And what he's done. And if you look at the splits with Mike Evans on the field versus off the field, I won't I won't read you all of them. But like Brock Purdy's numbers are much, much better with Mike Evans on the field than they are with off. And that was like very apparent in last week's game against commanders where the 49ers offense basically ground to a halt in the second half. It's not like they couldn't do anything, but they just weren't nearly as explosive after Mike Evans went out. And, you know, at this point, it's getting ridiculous who the 49ers have at receiver. I would argue. I would argue that the 49ers are on their third hockey shift of receivers. It's like because the first one really should be like a squad. If you think it's like Mike Evans, Brandon Ayuk and Debo Samuel, and they're all obviously out. And then you could have an entire another thing of Ricky Pearsall, DeJuan Stripling and like DeMarcus Robinson. And they're all in injured reserve, too. So you're down literally your top six receivers is Mike Evans and Debo don't play this week. The guy who's going to be back who hasn't played a game yet for the Niners this year is Christian Kirk. Yeah. Is a full participant. He's been on IR with a calf injury for a while. He'll be back. And I'm almost like if Mike Evans doesn't play in this game, Christian Kirk might just have 12 catches. I know. It's funny because he's the most opposite style receiver to Mike Evans that you can imagine. But he might be like member Kendrick Warren last year in the Niners. Like Christian Kirk kind of slots in on that role. I can see it. We should give Brock Purdy half an MVP like this way. If Brock Purdy comes in and has some. Perfect passer rated game with Brandon Cooks and Christian Kirk, which is just Mad Libs of old washed receivers. Yeah, but that's the thing. It's funny because I don't know if I've ever respected a Niners season more than this one where they are just playing so well with all this. But it's also tough because it's hard to see them winning the Super Bowl when they look like this. And yeah, it's like injuries. Late mid October. Well, it's funny, though, because it's like you could say you could say the Niners are peaking too early because it's like, oh, they're undefeated now. But can they can they keep this up until the Super Bowl? But I'm like. Well, they're also super hurt right now. And and undefeated. That's true, everyone's rehabbing. Right. So I'm like by the end of the season, like Dijon's dribbling could be back. All these guys could be back. Yeah. Wow. Maybe that's what the substation thing was, where they like just hurt everyone in the beginning. So everyone's healthy for the Super Bowl. The new edge is just having everyone on IR until like week 15. And winning. Stash. Right. Well, yeah, yeah. And winning. Yeah. Everyone's saying the NBA regular season doesn't matter. Does college football matter with it? Like the Niners are like, you know, if you just make it there, just get everything. Maybe everyone's secretly healthy. Mike Evans is maybe the most beat up player I've ever seen through the first six weeks of the season. Like already now, like if you read his injury report today, it's like he didn't practice, of course. I also I love that it's like he's been on the Niners for like three months, essentially. And they're like, he obviously doesn't need to practice to play like he like on the box. He was there for 12 years. Kyle Shanahan is already calling this current injury that Mike Mike Evans has soreness. Like he's just fucking beat to shit. They're like, yeah, I think it's like the it's the truest thing. It just limps from every goddamn play. Also, I don't know why, because other teams do do this. But there's something funny about the Niners. Injury report feels to me like they have commas. Yeah. Like they have so many injuries that they actually like they can't even fit. Like, I feel like the columns in their little spreadsheets are larger on the Niners. They're using semicolons. Hold on to take a breath. Okay. But would you guys is there any world in which? Like if Mike Evans doesn't play and they do activate, which it looks like they're going to Christian Kirk, that if you're like have some tricky by weeks this week that you might start Christian Kirk. Or Brandon cooks. Crazy. I would start with cooks just because I've seen cooks play. And like, I mean, as something as simple as like Brock pretty went to Brandon cooks for a touchdown. It was caught undone by a pound penalty. And then he went to Brady cooks again in the end zone. That's actually, I mean, that's pretty encouraging to me, Kirk. I don't think it's crazy though. Like I, you seen it a lot. I, you know, you have to be pretty down bad. But I mean, you know, if you're in a deep enough league or you have the wrong buys, I don't think that's insane at all. I mean, would you be shocked if Christian Kirk or Brandon cooks had more points than like Omar Cooper jr. This? No, I kind of wouldn't. Yeah. It's risky, but like, you know, it's not a crazy idea. The Niners are favored by two and a half in Atlanta. Do you think Atlanta has a shot in this game? It's weird. Line took a shot to the ribs. Yeah. I, I, I never know how ribs injuries to me are always like, especially quarterback rotational. I never know. Yeah. I mean, I think he's a good player. but they introduced like a new logo for this week. um and um everyone just says it looks like the nazi flag yeah yeah this this looks like pete hegseth designed it yes he's on the design team yeah yeah they just made fun of that on snl oh did they yeah the logo behind him that clearly looks like the the a lot of nazi looking stuff it keeps sure it's a coincidence yeah i'm sure it's a coincidence who would have thought dude this falcons logo the replies it's worth your it's worth your while to go on to twitter maybe we'll link to it or whatever and just read the replies there it's sometimes the internet is good you know some people photoshopped it so the falcons doing the heil hitler uh right the actual falcon is yes the actual falcon someone had like the falcon itself looks shocked but it's just all the memes it's the best memes in a long time like they're they're doing this they're really they're really pushing this out okay i like the tweet that said this would go crazy on 1940s german twitter right my the one that made me like piss my pants was the someone just had instead of tom brady they had dwight eisenhower sitting on the 28th down 28 to 3 the allies the allies the allies versus the axis oh oh my god okay didn't they do it didn't take it down i either have to stand with that i either respect that or i'm because if you say i'm questioning that i don't know what you kind of acknowledge like hey yeah it's like fuck this kind of looks nazi kind of look nazi yet yeah do you think that's like roger goodell calling up the ravens and he's like so i gotta ask you some questions here i know it's ridiculous but you know i just have you ever read mind comp a couple times why a couple times something you missed there some easter eggs that you didn't uh i skimmed it is it great true is it true that your dog is named after hitler he's like a dog name thing he's like no not true great different spell what what different spell just checking the old till here yeah i'm interested in that period of history what about it this scale three million polls 20 million russians eight million italians a couple million until there just checking the till here a couple million short the scale so good that guy's a good actor that guy's so good vandals making this your most rewarding season and in the spirit of giving we're each going to give our favorite touchdown scorer for the weekend dk who's your favorite touchdown scorer for the weekend i'm going with matthew golden the receiver for the packers who probably should have had like three or four last week now he's going up against the lions who's defensively and he's going up against the lions who's defensively and he's going up against the defense who's defensively and he's going up against the lions who's defensively and he's going up defensively and he's going up against the lions who's defensively and he's going up against the defense is not very good so go with uh matthew golden he can catch the touchdown but can he hold the touchdown it's the holding but he can catch something craig what about you i'm going with nico collins facing your new york giants piece plus 130 to score a touchdown he hasn't had one in a couple weeks but started the season very hot i feel like this is a game where the texans are going to be in the red zone often i think this is a really good one nico collins had a not invisible last week for us the jaguars but a lot of cleat issues he had more issues with the grass and he was just really frustrated with his cleats last week and i think he had an underrated impact or underrated coming into this game and also i had a giant argument my friends this week about um deontay banks the cornerback of the giants who they're saying is playing better and i hate still and i think nico collins will just destroy deontay banks uh my i'm sticking with the same game jg mccarthy two touchdowns is 80 to one two passing touchdowns or two rushing touchdowns or receiving technically i had to taste some hill essentially i you think i'm kidding but that is why i think the entire point is he's gonna run like jackson dart and i think it's one quarterback sneak and one actual earnest rushing touchdown 80 to one and he's not really rushed like that in the past but i think the giant's gonna use him as a runner more than he's ever been used it will be this game and uh i don't know if that's smart but i think it'll happen so 80 to one if all these happen jg to score two golden to get one nico that is one dollar win 394 dollars yeah 94 to one love that buddy ow check out our bet in the fendel app and remember that fendel helping make this your most rewarding season ever ulcerative colitis and crohn's disease symptoms don't pause for the moments that matter that's why understanding your treatment options matters discover what's possible with trimphia guselka map trimphia is a prescription medicine used to treat adults with moderately to 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45 to the falcons and 27 to jamis winston and jj mccarthy they allow jj mccarthy to have more passing yards in 11 minutes than any vikings quarterback has had this year which is unbelievable oh no um carthy with rushing had like 275 yards in 11 minutes i mean him just having more than any vikings quarterback at a game this year in 11 minutes is it's not nothing um even though it was half garbage time i guess but i mean this is another game going into it where i'm like the steelers should win this game i mean the saints are a little beat up right now they still don't have etn tyler tyler shucks playing with the team and they're not playing with the team and they're not playing with the team and two broken bones and he's handing off with the other hand he's doing the backwards handoff which i never like i always think of fumbles coming um they can't run the ball their offensive line is banged up and the steelers are like relatively held together right now they should be able to run the ball uh but on the flip side of things this game's in paris my one dumb stat is that nfl teams that have left on thursday night and arrived on friday for a game in europe are three and oh this year which is what the steelers are doing and not the saints who got there earlier in the week oh man there's so much travel talk this year i love it it's fascinating it's like the nfl version of like normal people talking about the weather so when'd you fly in yeah where are you staying how are you fighting the jet lag when'd you get in yeah chris alave and dk metcalf hanging out in the lobby bar so when'd you get in oh that's funny um so wait sorry they've they flew in on thursday night and arrived on friday morning flying today yeah it's gonna land on friday morning and go right to practice wow we're recording it's thursday october 22 before thursday they're probably leaving soon and they're literally getting off the plane and claim that they're gonna i'm sure they're shit located dropped off at the hotel but they're claiming they'll go to the practice so then they try and stay up until that night they're gonna sleep on the plane but yeah yeah yeah ideally do they have that giant australian plane with all the beds doubt it i don't think so that was part of the one that didn't work the a380 or whatever it is i don't know that was part of the thing with the jalen hurts thing that got you know a lot of the information kind of got wires crossed and obviously he ended up being at the hospital like saturday night dealing with all these scans and stuff but part of the reason he didn't sleep was he landed from philadelphia that morning yeah you know what i mean like that there's like the hotel wouldn't check me in until later yeah i'm just in the lobby my room's not ready dude if that's like i didn't want to take a shower i'm just gonna sleep in the lobby dude if that's like i didn't want to take a shower on the second floor if that giant australian plane were around in the 90s and maybe it was that would have been a movie so quickly in like 1988 you know what i mean just like the idea of like the world's biggest plane yeah and it's like who's on it you can't get off how long's the flight that's just easy money movie i'm not going to pretend to be an expert in it but i will just say based on some stuff i read i'm not gonna you know what i mean but it's so paris is the middle i'm just being honest i'm like i'm not an expert but yeah sure the basic summary i have here is so it's this whole all these protests started as students protesting at school basically school started it was like high schoolers high schoolers and there was you know obviously it's a mix but there's one school in particular started and there was spotty electricity there were not enough teachers not enough chairs unclean bathrooms and the kids just started blockading the school that sounds like the steelers facilities exactly two two shitters in the entire place cam hayward and tj wap been dealing with this forever we'll be right at home yeah they're gonna join if mike minecraft world had had this there would have been the proper amount of bathrooms and public facilities but so yeah this spiraled from some kids blockading a high school to now the most widespread rioting in paris in decades and obviously you know all these things get put onto it and it you know it goes beyond the original premise of schools and it takes on all these other issues and becomes you know it's part of everything now it's like culture war all these other things but from what i've seen i'm getting these numbers from the new york times but it seems almost a thousand french cop this is the whole country thousand cops have been injured almost seven thousand people have been arrested from what i've seen curfews have been issued in paris and in nice the city har city hall in marseille got kind of jan 6th uh they burned down they burned it they burned down a city hall in one city yeah uh there's a nationwide transit strike that'll be on november 5th there the louvre is closed for like days that have louvre just closed for days the art basil festival is ending early the nfl had i mean this is like a different scale but the nfl had a fan event at a bar that they just kind of canceled which it's not so much about the bar but it's more the nfl even acknowledging any kind of cancellation is kind of like a little bit of a a thing tells you what's happening on the ground so they they managed to have a champions league game this week they had psg versus barcelona but frankly the french care a lot more about the champions league than the nfl and the question is are people going to protest or whatever around the game and try to disrupt it um or not because apparently saturday is going to be a huge protest day we'll see about sunday but um yeah the game's five miles outside the city but it is it is an it is an interesting time for the nfl to end up there this game has all the makings to me of it's like i wake up it's the third quarter and it's like nine to three and it's just one of those ugly old school things you know international early games i'm interested to see what's going on with the grass because last week the london game i was really interested that the grass is a little slick to the point where a referee is out for the season and again the impact is there's no pass rush like the i think defensive linemen don't get the jump off and it just ends up helping the offensive line i think it's supposed to be better in this game there was like a whole thing i read about it where they were going to use turf and then they actually went with a real grass that that was growing in italy and they brought that in and they've had yeah the grass is from milan italian grass italian grass not bad um and they've had more time to like get it set and prepare it than they had in like rio so they feel apparently better about this it's like the plot to the gentleman i was wanting the show they're growing italian grass importing it into france um you know the gentleman's amazing i i've watched both seasons and the movie it's one of those shows that it's it's classic guy richie where i'm like this is ridiculous but also i'm entertained yeah the movie is incredible uh you need to invest in some parachutes anyway okay this next games these are just there's like six of these i just kind of bucketed these as just desperate times just someone involved in these games ever desperate starting with the giants at the houston texans which i lambs to the slaughter here the giants have announced that jj mccarthy is going to start we're not really announced but he's going to start jeremy fowler reported at first and again jj mccarthy wearing 18 it's 9 2.0 double it it's happening so my one stat double it gives the next guy that's what jj mccarthy's doing arch manning will be 36 the my one stat for this game is that since december 7th of last year uh jj mccarthy is basically elite by statistics okay in facts since last year december 7th how many games has he played since then like two since december 7th don't worry about it minimum 100 minimum 100 pass attempts why do you care seven quarterbacks since then mccarthy ranks first in success rate he's second in yards per drop back only to lamar jackson second in epa per drop back only to brock purdy he's ahead of josh allen if you've heard of him and he again first in success rate ahead of drake may purdy lamar joe burrow stafford wow again jj mccarthy he's basically i mean he might i mean i don't know maybe he's high fits is burning on the rainforest setting i'm just setting different like things on his mind i don't know his search here to find it exactly how do we make him look at what i've always liked him how many games has he played in that stretch four that's three and a half i think i don't know why immaterial uh well then he should have no issues at all against houston right did you guys so i was actually so i think the real reason they're doing this is i think that jj mccarthy is a lot more mobile than jabez and that they can at least try to run the offense that jackson dart was doing in week one versus dallas and like they bring more of that offense in that greg roman is probably wanting to do i honestly thought they were going to play jamis because you let jamis get shredded by houston go into the bye week and let mccarthy get two more weeks of practice yes that's what i thought so i was kind of like why are they doing this and then john harbaugh the weirdest press conference john harbaugh was asked about jj mccarthy he was like yeah i mean you know what joe shane loved jj mccarthy the whole giant scouting staff they loved him and he was their number one quarterback you know i you know i i kind of was familiar with him from college i'm just kind of getting caught up now you know i just now i gotta watch tape there's good what there's bad but um yeah we'll see they scouts they love him and i was like what the so is he like covering his own ass down i don't know how else you could interpret this guy stinks as if it's not he's like basically they're making me do this uh let's see how it goes yeah this guy held out to get joe shane to report to him and was acting like joe shane traded for mccarthy and i don't i don't know between that and like pretending the cam scataboo thing was a benching and quibbling with the words of it because he didn't want the headline in the new york post i i i am i conspiratorial here i read that as him just totally being like if mccarthy sucks versus houston i'm blaming this on joe shane craig what what's the uh line from digger where it's like they have the facts we're gonna tell them the story or something like that i just saw the preview yes i'm like this like it's it reminds me so much they're just they're just trying to change the narrative here uh with everything with the scataboo thing oh yeah it was just you know the flow of the game and we're trying to find somebody who starts like no he got zero carries your starter got zero carries that's a benching i'm sorry like yeah he's i just i don't understand harbaugh he's just so insistent on like he wants to bend the narrative to his will right it's easier when you're in baltimore and like you've also won a super bowl but it's a little harder when you're in new york and it just and also not good it's not a good team what hyvets did they are they kind of making it sound like they're just sticking with jj mccarthy he's their starter now test run it's like he's going to be the starter for the rest of the year i thought so until i saw the harbaugh thing and i'm like is this trying to motivate jg but i'm like i just i this it's really weird to say jg is the starter and then talk about joe shane and the scouts love him he's not giving him credit let me tell you that like it's it is yeah very strange and if he's not worried about it why is he playing him i don't get it i'm very confused yeah i mean it might suggest that he maybe harbaugh wanted to hold him like you said if it's until after the bike because it makes more sense and then the the front office was like no you're playing him this week and then so harbaugh had to explain why that was happening frankly he'd have more i'd give him more benefit of the doubt if he hadn't insisted on not saying scataboo was upon it i don't understand yeah what he's doing by the way dk the line is they know the facts the story is yet to be told okay um i will say i think this is the beginning of the texans defense reclaiming their status because they again i just think the texans they were not playing as well as usual but i also think it was and dac prescott and trevor lawrence without it in a weird field and josh allen and then the next quarterbacks are facing are going to be jg mccarthy and uh justin herber and deshaun watson and daniel jones and i kind of think that the texans defense the next month is going to get its credibility back um the next game in just desperate time series the culture at the vikings and the colts this is their first game after firing chris ballard yeah the colts fascinating team right now are they going to start a fire sale they haven't yet but there seems to be a lot of reports that they're going to try and trade some of their big big money people and and kind of like reset get more draft picks for this game though i feel sorry for daniel jones i'm scared for daniel jones my one stat this year daniel jones has a 52 passer rating against pressure he has completed 47 of his passes for 5.5 yards per attempt zero touchdowns and two interceptions against when he is pressured he has not done well against pressure and that is exactly what the vikings do best they are by far the best team at creating pressure and making it really hard on quarterbacks this year the vikings are blitzing at a 67 percent rate two out of three snaps or two out of three dropbacks they're blitzing or maybe that no that's just snaps they're blitzing two out of three times it's insane it's that stat i think is per drop back but they're doing run blitzes also yeah in comparison with that not only do they lead the league and you know pressure rate and pressuring quarterbacks they're also second to last in missed tackles yeah they are just a swarming make life hell it's like a beehive like you kicked a beehive and they're coming at you yeah um and i'm i just worry that daniel jones is going to not be able to deal with this at all i think the only way the colts win this game is if they either run the ball really well which the vikings are a good run defense or they somehow manage to get some turnovers on defense or special teams and kind of like do that go that route because the vikings offense has not really shown us a ton yet um and it could be a close game from that point of view but the colts defense is not very good either and the vikings i don't want to pretend to understand everything brian flores does in defense but i do think the simplest way to understand it is it's like a horror movie where if a good horror movie it's like the biggest villager anticipation you don't know what's going to happen so your imagination is creating things you can't trust anything you see so it's like sometimes you know if you play like a solid defense or like even the texans sometimes it's like all right these four guys are gonna rush and they'll be better than them and it's like the vikings you don't know which of these six people are going to come it could be three it could be all six just because the guy's in motion with the receiver motion doesn't mean it's man coverage like everything you've been trained to know now you're doubting everything and so unless you are a great quarterback that really trusts what you're seeing right when the ball snapped you're not getting any information you can trust until the ball snapped and so it's it's just using and so suddenly all this fear and anxiety and it's like you just can't trust anything when i was a kid you know when i would play madden there was always kind of two different philosophies to play madden i was always the type who tried to recreate real life balance i wanted my offense to operate as like a real nfl offense i wanted to run the ball 20 times such a steelers fan yeah yeah it's like i wanted to feel as though this was a real nfl team And then it's like you play your buddy who just like goes deep every single time single time and doesn't gauge eight and you're like you can't just do that and he's like sure as heck he just blitzes every fucking play and then you're like that's so annoying that's not even real football but they win because you like legitimately are too flustered by the blitz that's just what brian flores is doing sure as heck that's a great analogy dude craig against the pass the the vikings are more than twice as good in terms of epa per per pass on defense uh then the second plus the second best team which is the seahawks they are they are creating havoc and they're scoring points off of it obviously by creating turnovers and picks and it like creates phantom pressure right like you know it's like you run the ball so that you can run play action and then throw it and it's like the defensive version of that is almost like well if we if we blitz two out of every three times you're not going to know the one time we're not going to blitz is so effectively you think we could be blitzing every single time which means no matter what it's like you know when you watch those plays i always feel like this happens to like the cowboy or something where it's like a third and five dac snaps the ball the defense blitz is like eight guys and dac just like freaks out and has to get rid of it immediately it's like the version of that but it feels like that's every play against craig that i i don't have the set in front of me but the stats of quarterbacks against non blitzes this year against the vikings is also very like very very bad because you never know who's gonna blitz yeah because you have all these guys up front and so sometimes you have to account for them though you don't have the luxury of being like ah it's not like you have to account for it so what ends up happening is you'll have the running back or a tight end stay in and then so now you have like seven blockers and then they drop and now you have three rushers with seven blockers but they're all coming from one side so even though so on one side you might have three guys blocking one and then somehow you have a mismatch on the other side and so somehow that because you've accounted for it wrong like they are able to get pressure in other places you weren't expecting and it's one of those where well why doesn't everyone do it and the answer is you need to be philosophically like to the atomic level of your organization down to cross-train everybody and teaching every everybody needs to know how to do everything and like has this versatile skill set which sounds so much easier than it actually is but when it looks but when you do it right it looks like the fucking vikings where you have josh matelis and andrew you know what i mean and van ginkle these guys who can just do everything well because you can only blitz one third of the time and effectively have the same thing right where it's like you don't know who's coming and it's so tricky doing it two out of three times though makes the times you don't look so much worse imagine if every day at school a guy walked up to you and punched you as hard as he could in the shoulder if he does it two out of every three days every third day you're wincing when he puts his arm up and that's just what it is now it's like it's like you're thinking about it at night it's like it's like sticking a a shorter step like randomly one like just sprinkling them in on a on a stairwell you're just gonna fucking fall down if you don't know what to expect where to put your foot you know what i mean it's so it is it's it's crazy what they're doing craig your analogy of madden is so funny they really are just just sending it sure as i can see what happens it's working so far is there after all this is there a way in which the colts win this game well the i think the line in this game is is very very smelly six and a half yeah like the vikings are at home they're playing the colts who's fired their gm and it's only it's it's less than a touchdown the vikings are the best events in the league daniel jones is playing like shit can the colts get to 10 points in this game like yeah surprising to me a little little fishy i agree the next game here monday night football is the dallas cowboys at the philadelphia eagles without jalen hurts yeah so dallas is favored by four and a half points in this game my stat eagle stat eagles offense stat the eagles are dead last in 10 plus yard runs and dead last in 20 plus everything is hard yeah i test um i will say saquon barkley's back in this game it appears uh devontae smith is playing and i think the next two games here are going to determine what the eagles do with the rest of the season because the eagles play a divisional game against dallas this week and they play a divisional game against washington next week if they win both those two games they're probably not selling they're four and four it's a super winnable division if they lose this game and lose the next game i think you can assume that a lot of these guys are going to get shipped out if they're two and six saquon is gone i think ben solak our guy wrote about possible trades he could see happening and he floated saquon to houston he mentioned seattle dk green bay i don't know what the josh jacobs stuff but houston and seattle makes a lot of sense but to me if they lose the next two games i do think they cut bait i also think this is the this is like the last chance for tanner mckee in a way because he was terrible last week i'll always give the backup quarterback a little leeway when it's like he didn't even know he only got half a week of prep that's the thing and so when you got back 40 he had 45 drop backs he was terrible but he was actually so bad like the a good example to me the first play was a disaster like like a true disaster to the point where i'm like okay obviously the jalen hurt situation impacted their ability to game plan you know what i mean like it just i i actually and now you're playing dallas which has just been just i mean even jalen daniels an undrafted rookie just was able to look fine versus the dallas it's a home game against dallas so i think there's a chance that tanner mckee looks fine during this week and that will be interesting too but if he can't do it this week it's just not gonna happen if you can't look good with the full week versus dallas i agree it's gonna it's gonna change how the i think it'll make the eagles more likely i mean the cowboys are kind of reeling as well but i yeah the the eagles plus four and a half and ringer 107 with saquon back mckee at home week of prep playing dallas it has crossed my mind i i don't know if i want to bet on it but i know what you mean i will the other the other thing we have not talked about this so this is monday night football have you guys seen that espn for the rest of the season on monday night football is going to have darth vader interview a player what so they're gonna have this alt cast on sports center plus which i didn't even know was a thing and it's gonna be star wars but part of it is darth vader is going to interview a player like which players do you know i i don't know i only have questions that's your question i just love the idea that i only i only got one fuck you're like i get the darth vader part sure but who who's you gonna interview i just love the idea that nick sirianni's jogging off at halftime and it's just gonna be like yeah that's funny uh these are these are fun and you think vader's who do you think finishes the season acheman or vader that's why joe buck resigned it's gonna be joe buck and darth vader i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know wait can you do a vader craig no can you try his deep voice because i was just picturing darth vader like interviewing jerry jones i feel like it's like i don't know it's just i actually can't go deep no luke it's hard it's hard to do it's hard to do james earl jones i know right one of the most iconic voices yeah yeah i don't even because i just now i'm upset i'm like i kind of need to see jerry jones do the darth vader interview now uh these are fun i like i think these are like you know they're trying to get kids i guess interested they did spongebob they've done that before all the disney products i think i don't know it's kind of fun do they have like a darth vader impersonator or is it a cartoon i think they bought the rights to like james earl jones's voice voice years ago but it's it's gonna be like how will the interview be is it like some somebody staring at a screen with an animated darth vader on it like how are they doing it's but how are they hearing that okay how do you plan on tanner mckee attacking dallas what is there somebody what do you know what i mean like how is is nick what is nick looking at i think it's animated i have no idea i can't wait to see is he looking at a tennis ball like what are we saying is darth is darth gonna be like deadpan just really mean or is it gonna be like he's cracking jokes and he's like what's the deal with the blood clot situation saquon you disappoint me i said darth vader has like really deep so the deep vein and thrombosis why'd you put him on a transatlantic flight it's gonna be like larry king darth vader wins a pulitzer yeah i don't know i just like i'm like i don't know how that's gonna work like literally like literally like what are the mechanics looking at is it a screen they roll out is it is he just hearing it is it a guy i don't know it's just fucking dak prescott talking to some guy with like tennis balls on him oh my god yeah i will i will i will be good with um i'll be good you're not gonna watch it jerry jones to do an interview with darth vader i would just like to say that i am i'm prepared and i'm preparing mentally and physically to start saquon barkley this week and him to be terrible potentially leaving in the first quarter with a re-aggravation that will happen i know they're monday night's a disaster because you can't swap anybody so it's just i know it's just he's gonna have five points and i just know it and it's nice to know now you've resigned yourself to this the best part is tanner mckee's gonna get a tush push touchdown seriously i just you ever feel like with certain guys you're like if they can get through the first quarter they'll finish the game i feel that way with saquon or like if he could just get like eight carries and he's healthy i feel like i finished the game it's the first eight that's like getting out of the first quarter and he's healthy and he's healthy and he's healthy and he's healthy and he's healthy and he's healthy and he's healthy and he's healthy and he's healthy first round yeah felt that way about mike evans and i was wrong uh next game here the rams are at the las vegas raiders and my one stat is that so ftn and aaron shots which kind of like is where football outsider stuff is now so dvoa and all those stats are at ftn now and aaron shots and his team ran the numbers on the rams and they concluded that the rams basically have the worst special teams over a five-year window of any team that's ever seriously tried to win the super bowl ever and they go back to the 70s that's wild uh and the only teams really that like right now if the rams special teams dvoa held for their season it would be like the worst special teams ever and the only teams that over a five year basically since the rams won the super bowl with above average special teams the five years since the only teams that have had like worst special teams are like the chargers in the late 2010s and the bills in the early 2000s like laughing stocks and then there's the rams who are like earnestly trying to win the super bowl and i know there's this great article at ftn about uh what's the actual comp for the rams as its preseason super bowl favorite that is starting to and four but did not have a quarterback injury and it's like not like oh the 2011 eagles dream team no they were like a contender but the rams were the favorite and they went they said the last team like this is probably the steelers in 1980 which was actually it was actually a really good comparison because they all were too old and the iron curtain got old they had john stalworth was basically davante adams missing half the season that's like older terry bradshaw yeah it's just like an old team that was like too old and it was just too old too old but like yeah it's super well consensus favorite without a quarterback injury just doesn't usually fucking suck but the rams have done this three of the last four or five years the rim started one and four in 2020 uh three and six in 2023 they started one and four in 2024 so they have to scrape in and try to get like a wild card now dude the nfl back in the day was so different the year that terry bradshaw won the mvp he had 20 interceptions and he threw for 2900 yards dude turnovers turnovers are like the original analytics everyone now is like oh i gotta win the turnover battle that was cutting edge in the 60s was 2900 yards and 20 interceptions and he won the mvp how many touchdown passes 28 28 and 20 it's like a james it's like an average james here now yeah dude look at look at like joe dude all those guys are throwing so many interceptions it was like they're just getting absolutely clobbered too did they joe yeah joe nameth in 74 through 20 touchdowns in 22 and joe nameth had 28 interceptions in 1975 bradshaw also had eight fumbles so bradshaw had 20 28 turnovers and 28 touchdowns that's tough that's fucking awesome the yeah it's insane they're not doing the rams they won the fucking super bowl so what hi fitz what's your theory on the rams what why do that why are they so bad at special teams because i know a lot of people are just like oh they don't care i'm like obviously they have to care it's i think on so here's here's my working imagine if you ask john mcveigh after like five beers he's like i just don't care i just don't care i just think it's not really a part of the game i have a working theory on this part of it is it's probably just a blind spot for him like that's just you know what i mean he's just not good at evaluating it i think it's part of it but my working theory is it's actually about fuck them picks and then eight years without a first-round pick in that whole philosophy because the irony of that statement is the rams is good yeah rams make a ton of picks the rams over that period made i think i wish i had the number in front of me but they about made the most draft picks in the nfl actually they just didn't like first-round picks and less need who's the gm of the rams my theory so he was the rams gm when they made the robert griffin trade and they traded down for robert griffin and they got like 11 picks for that and almost none of them worked right they got like michael brockers and janoris jenkins and missed on like the other eight people and i think less need was radicalized that first-round picks are overrated so they made all these trades but the rams make a ton of fifth-round picks and a ton of six-round picks and fourth-round picks and even puka naku is a fifth-round pick that they picked up randomly and so the rams are trying to get starters out of all these guys and it works look at ernest jones right wasn't he i think he was like a you know it's still back now like a random mid-round pick so the rams are more than other teams trying to find starters out of the rams and they're trying to get starters out of the rams and they're trying to get starters out of these late round picks no they have to they have they literally yeah have to find starters right out of these late round picks which is therefore the special teamers are put on the back burner they're just not they because they've traded all these first round picks the rams don't have the luxury of taking guys or developing a special teamer it's like the patriots always took like a kicker a punt returner and a punter in like the third and fourth round yeah and so that's the thing it's special teams it's like they say yeah it'll be a priority but no it's not it's not they've already made that decision that they need these people to play on the team they can and like you end up with nate landman who's like just punching out footballs left and right but the process of how you find nate landman is you were not fucking looking for gunners on special teams yeah and so the special team sucks because it's the last priority that's my fascinating the irony is they use their first round pick on a non-starter this year yeah they drafted their third string quarterback i i will not beat them up for that as much as other people i'm just i'm just i'm just long-term planning i don't know i know simpson's good it's one thing i think i think it's kind of stupid i mean if he would have been their backup i could have maybe like talked myself into it but he's quite literally their third string quarterback i i don't know they could just have like but they see concepcion or something right now okay but here's the thing could have come in handy what what would you say is the single most criticized draft pick of the last 10 years because i would say it was the packers taking jordan love i don't know about that i don't i don't think that would because he was a late first rounder he oh yeah it was the 25th pick but aaron rogers won the mvp and they took a quarterback in the first well it was like it was a hotly contested pick because it was like disrupting the chemistry i don't know everything i don't know during a super bowl t a super bowl caliber team took a quarterback in the first round for their aging mvp caliber quarterback yeah but that's matthew stafford that's what they just did don't you think that like the the number one criticism one of the most common criticisms is a front office look at the golden state warriors is the two timelines sure and it's like really you're taking james wiseman and you're going to try to make that work trade the pick get a player like get somebody who can compete for steph right now while you're in the window that is what you should be doing with matt stafford and davante adams you can say that but like also when it doesn't work and they have no quarterback then they'll be like why the fuck did you know they were worried about my staff back three years ago yeah but if it doesn't work there's no fan who's like man i'm really upset that we spent the 13th pick on a defensive lineman or a receiver when we could have been planning for the downfall of matt stafford no one's going to be upset if the gm's like we were trying to win the super bowl and make the best team possible that's not true at all people will absolutely be upset if you try to win the super bowl and fall short i think the way again oh i i disagree with that yeah no but here's the thing well no fine i get what you're saying to be clear you're right that no one's going to be like why didn't you have a quarterback people will separately view those decisions separately be like why don't we have a quarterback now they'll just be mad and you'll suck here's my point how much of it's because people think ty simpson is a quarterback bad because if ty simpson plays for the rams later and is bad yeah that's a bad pick but if ty simpson plays and is good no one's no one looks back at the jordan love pick and is mad about it no yeah because jordan loves playing really well that's fine but the 13th pick in the draft or whatever it was a guy who some people thought was like not even a first round talent and you never have first round picks and you're the super bowl favorite and you take a quarterback that people think didn't deserve to be 13th overall that's the different question and that's the different question and that's where it becomes that's becomes where it's dubious where it's like less need called a shot a long time ago and it sounds like less need because he knew ty simpson's dad told ty simpson's dad that if you come out on the draft we will take you so you should declare to be honest where it gets weird to me the the other thing that that i think absolutely needs to be discussed in this whole conversation is ty simpson very few starts in college like he was he sat for what was it three years and then started yeah and now he's going to sit for another year or two so he's going to play like one year in five or six that and to be clear and that's like just a bad plan so that that's look it's only a bad plan if it doesn't work but i disagree with that no i think if it does work that means you could still do something stupid and get lucky and it works out doesn't mean you made the decision but you have to throw darts a quarterback it's just like acting like he's the only quarterback in the world right i'm not what do you mean they're gonna first it's like take a quarterback if you can't if you don't get a quarterback here we can never get a quarterback that's like just like a false well it's hard i'm not defending ty simpson i'm defending when a team actively is proactive about getting a quarterback that is smart and like it is not sexy but it's like you know you know who was again one of the weirdest picks ever aaron fucking rogers the pat it's honestly i'm just the packers are the perfect example this brett farve lost in the nfc championship game to the giants when aaron rogers was on the bench and they could have had a first round probably guard or whatever aaron rogers lost to the nfc with jordan love on the bench and they ran out of cornerbacks there's tom brady you could argue that if the packers had just taken a cornerback in 2007 or in 2020 that like the packers could have made a super bowl or won one and they didn't but in exchange they got 15 years of aaron rogers and maybe 15 years of jordan love you and like no one else even but here's the thing no one even tries to do this no one else is everyone else is afraid to try i respect the rams for having the balls to even try to have a succession play in a quarterback no one else even tries i am very curious why they went for a quarterback whose talent is not like physical tools but apt I think he's like the quarterback they chose. Trying to take any quarterback to me is smart. I don't know. I don't think Rams fans are feeling like that right now. No, but it's also like people are like, oh, this is this is hindsight. Like, no, we were saying this. Yes. On draft night. Like, yes. What if Devante Adams gets hurt? Then what? Sure. Of course we were. Guess what? He's out for the rest of the year, probably. OK. And that's but that's kind of my point is would have would have like let's say that maybe Vega you want. It would have been a great pick for them. But my point is that wouldn't have made a difference in this season for the Rams. This one rookie doesn't seem right now like the difference between them being two and four or not. They don't. You don't think having a like one of the receivers. You don't think Jeremy Bernard has played a difference in the Steelers being four and two. I would say it absolutely has. You don't think Casey Concepcion on the Rams would help. But of course he has. But I'm I'm just saying that like if the quarterback thing ends up being right, having a quarterback for a 10 year period is so much more important than everything else. It's about half. I think I think I think no one's. No one's arguing. I'm just saying that like if it turns out like if Ty Simpson's like an all pro that it was that that it was getting cute. It's getting like they're trying to thread the fucking that's like smallest needle in the world. Yes. You have a chance to win the Super Bowl and you're not taking it. You are not doing everything you can to win the Super Bowl this year. You can't say they are. They are literally not by taking Ty Simpson. I don't know about the plan, but I'm not going to knock them for taking a quarterback at 13 and having any kind of plan for the future because teams that I don't know, just everyone tries to luck into a quarterback. It doesn't work. I don't know if Ty Simpson's the guy, but to me, it's like not a crazy idea to take a quarterback at 13. I just have my doubts about Ty Simpson. I'm just shocked that people don't. We don't. I don't think we need to keep going in circles on this. We can we can move on. Maybe they should have taken a kicker in the first round. I know, right? They should have taken all special teamers. I like that. We just did like a like a July first take segment right there. It's week seven. We're like, why did they take Ty Simpson? Well, they're two and four shit happens. You're two and four people question you. The next game is Broncos are at the Cardinals. Speaking of teams that might need a succession plan at quarterback. Here we go. Knicks. Bo Knicks is the story of the week here. I think for the Broncos and his relationship with Sean Payton and whether they can get this offense kind of righted after really, really struggling throughout the first six weeks. Bo Knicks. I don't even like my stat of the week is basically just that Bo Knicks has regressed. Horrifically from last year, and that was not even a high super high bar last year based on like some of his efficiency stats. He is averaging 5.5 yards per attempt this year. That'll be my stat because if you watch their offense, it just feels like they can't do anything. They are just everything is very, very difficult outside of a few drives that they've had this season. Nothing has looked easy for the Broncos often, so I guess that would be where we start here. They're going up against the Cardinals. Defense where this could be a good get right game for them, but I think something has to change with this Bo Knicks Sean Payton thing or else it feels like we're heading towards a benching at some point. I don't know what to make. I feel like I've come 540 on Bo Knicks because I hated him at coming out of Oregon. I didn't like I hated the spinning. Yeah. Yeah. Third of his passes were at the line of scrimmage behind, and then I begrudgingly came to respect him when he played a couple of years really well, and then I started hating him again at the beginning of the season. And now I'm like, I'm almost wondering if the criticism has gone too far because I'm like, clearly he's hurt, still recovering from this ankle injury. He doesn't look as fast and his offensive coordinators, head coach are in an open political feud over power. And I'm like, yeah, maybe it's not a great environment to like be succeeding. He's playing horribly, but I'm like, I don't know. He's I just feel like he's not healthy. And there's like, it seems like a pretty toxic offensive environment with the coaching. Yeah. To I've at this point, to me, the biggest errors of Bo Knicks is his legs and like he is what, what, what Bo Knicks is. Bo Knicks lacked in whatever accuracy or certain passing skill set he made up for with his mobility, with his like explosive plays with his legs. Dude, he's got 37 rushing yards this year, the whole year. In six games. He's, he had, he basically had 400 each of the last two years and he's got 37 in six games. And there was a specific play last week. I don't remember what down it was, but it was a crucial moment in the game and he kind of stepped up in the pocket, started to run and it was him and a defender and he had to get like five yards and he couldn't get around the defender. He couldn't even really make him run. He just like ran out of bounds. He just, no, he ran into him because he couldn't shimmy around. He just kind of ran into the defender, got tackled. It was a two yard run and they had to punt. And to me, I was like, that's the difference in Bo Knicks right there. Next game is Bucs Panthers. Bucs at Panthers. My one stat is that Tampa Bay is the only team in the league to have every game decided by one score, which to me, the Bucs are kind of the buy low candidate of the moment. Baker, it looks like he's going to come back from this thumb dislocation. He's back practicing. There's some quotes that concern me a little bit. You know, this feels quick, to be honest. Missing three games with a dislocated thumb on your throwing hand. Your thumb is out of its socket? Think about just like holding a football and throwing it and imagine your thumb was dislocated. You can't put a spiral on a football without your thumb. Right. And he said, this is from Baker today on Thursday. We've gotten to a place where it's strong enough to play. Don't love that. And then he said, there's a pretty solid plate on the back of the glove that will prevent any other injury. And I'm like, so you got a plate in the glove. The thumb is strong enough to play. Makes me a little nervous. If you buy that he's healthy and you look at the Bucs schedule, what they've done, how the defense has kind of turned around a little bit, even though they're one in five, they're playing a division game this week against Carolina. Then they play Atlanta, another division game next week. They win both those games and then they're tied for the most wins in the division. So this is a really important stretch here. So I guess my point is, is that like, this is a turning point, I think, and whether the Bucs actually have any shot this year to win the South. Yeah. The other thing to note here is Mecca Bucca was a late addition to the concussion protocol. Yeah. So he may, you have to keep a, keep that in mind over the weekend and make sure that he's going to clear that concussion protocol because he may not play in this game too. Which I feel like if you're added to the concussion protocol late, you're probably not going to. I would assume so, but you never know. It's kind of an individual basis thing. And so keep that in mind. Cause I, I think that showed up late. The next game is, I mean, these few games are just yuck. The Cleveland Browns are at the Tennessee Titans. I mean, holy shit. Do we just, I mean, is this just an auto skip? There's just the only, yeah. My one stat is just the Browns are the worst first quarter team in the NFL and the Titans are the worst first half team in the NFL. Yeah. Rich Rebar, my goat, sharp football. Browns are literally losing the first quarter combined 44 to six and the Titans are losing the first half of combined 82 to 23. Both are the worst in the NFL and they're both the worst two teams on third and long. The Browns are five for 42 on third and long. Yeesh. And third and long is considered third and seven or longer. Third and seven plus. Five for 42 for Cleveland. That's like a third and 15 stat. Yeah. Third and 20. The Raiders had five third and long conversions last week. Yeah. It's pretty bad. And the Titans are worse. The Titans are five for 36, which is the second worst, but five. Five for 42. It's not happening for Cam Ward. This first half is going to be rough. Cam Ward can't get to 200 yards in a game. Remember Bryce Young? That was like a big thing. That was another stat I had written down that until this year, 60% of Bryce Young's games were under 200 passing yards. 60% up until this year. And now this year he's thrown for 280, I think, in every single game. But now that's just Cam Ward. Like Cam Ward getting to 200 is like a legitimate achievement. I'm concerned. I don't want to watch this game. I will say the big news around this game that happened was, I mean, this was a crazy story, but the Titans released defensive tackle Jordan Elliott. Apparently Jordan Elliott got into a fight with the right tackle, JC Latham, during the practice and it got so heated that Jordan Elliott went to his car and got a gun and that the John Franklin Myers, the defensive tackle deescalated the situation and then they cut him. And then the ESPN reported that the gun never left Elliott's parking spot, which makes me think that the gun was taken out of the car. Hard pivot. Dolphins are at the New York Jets. Right. Woo. Another interesting game here. The one stat I have, is the NFL find Aaron Glenn, $250,000 for his conduct against the refs or towards the refs. So, so this is just to be clear, Aaron Glenn dangling the challenge flag. He got fined $250,000 for that. I don't, we don't know if that's the actual moment that that was why he got fined. What's wrong with that? Probably not. But he's like, he's just being really, are you kidding me? He was like, I think that's what got them mad at him. It's like, he was like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. They looked for something else. Cause that was like at most antagonistic. I think it's, people don't want to be made fun of him. And I think the rest were holding, holding the is a lot. I know. I actually didn't know they could find a lot of money, man. I mean, dude, Bella checkup is different. It was a long time ago, but Bella check, I find half a million for spy gate. That was half a million. So it's not just, it's not just Glenn, those Sirianni, Glenn and a third one. Who is the, I can't remember who the third coach. Yeah. They find three coaches, dude, they're racking in the cash this year. Dude, two 50. I, I, I guess coach dollars have gone up a lot, but I actually did not know they could find a coach that much from something like being mean to referees. You guys asked me before, would you rather become a meme or break your arm? And I said, break my arm. Would you guys rather be the author of a great meme? Like we saw with Aaron Glenn, where people are going to use this for years, probably, or keep two, 250 K. Oh, so it's like for the price of, for the small price of $250,000, you can have your very own. viral meme you could be the star of a hilarious good meme like the leo pointing on the couch i guess if you had the means would you pay 250 it's like it's advertising it is yeah he's investing in his own lore sure anyway i think 250 is ridiculous also this year insane amount of flags like they're the refs are flagging teams i think at a higher clip than we've ever seen that's correct i have a fun stat for you and i don't know if this is because of the flags that the the average duration of an nfl game this season is three hours and 11 minutes which is seven minutes longer than the last several years um this season there all have also been 15 penalties per game which would be the most in a season in the super bowl era do you think that's i mean i guess literally that has to factor in the length of the game because you're waiting because you're like waiting for them to huddle up and make a call and then you know they're backing them up and whatever the it is funny we talked about this all off season we really want the games to be longer and to have more flags so it's great to see that this is coming true i don't think it's entirely the ref's fault hi fits and i will know if it's loves the refs i don't know it's different i don't love the refs but we need refs and they literally can't play the sport without refs and also it's fucking hard so uh you ref a play but the here's how i do it not throw a flag refer okay well this is the perfect stat this is why i'd be adored by the masses well here's why rich rebar at sharp football had this thought that really caught my eye most delay of game penalties through six weeks in the 2000s delay of game the only arguably true other than 12 men in the field truly objective one it's also a little subjective it's a little subjective it's a little but that's the point though of all the flags in the nfl does does anyone get more benefit of the doubt than fucking delay of game where they really give you like 41 and a half seconds and so that caught my eye combined with 248 false starts are the most to this point of the season since 2007 you know rich's point was there's a lot of motion yeah everyone's introducing more pre-snap motion and it's harder and so the offensive operations are just more complicated and you look at jacksonville these other teams and it's the pre-snap shit is is the and holding are the two biggest things yeah it's a good point and it's kind of what i thought about i i think you know how it kind of ebbs and flows in the nfl like who has the advantage of the offense of the defense and i feel like at the end of the 2010s it was kind of like the offense was like kind of starting to beat the defense and i feel like now the defense has caught up and now you have like these really kind of elaborate complicated defenses and you have these like young quarterbacks trying to run complicated offenses to match them and it's like watching the chargers where you're like there's just too much going on here and it's not working and it does kind of feel like that is what's happening with a lot of offenses right now yeah it's like you look at the chargers and you're like like there are plenty of times where i want to make fun of the refs i made for the rest all the time but then you look at the charges and you're like well they're just committing a lot of penalties man like they just are the the jaguars every week i want to be like i'm like the jaguars just do a lot of shit wrong man it's just did you guys see the the florio clip where he was talking about why he believes that so you know the falcons had three primetime games in a row now the bears are beginning their stretch of three primetime games in a row and i think there's another one later in the season his his theory is that this is because the nfl is like preparing fans to get used to the nfl and it's like it's like it's like they're getting used to the idea of that basically if they want to have a game every night of the week tuesday and wednesday the only way you could do that is if a team plays wednesday then the next week they'd have to play tuesday or thursday right if they played tuesday one week the next week would have to be monday or wednesday practically speaking they need to have them go back to back yes yeah and so they're like getting people used to the idea of seeing the same team for like three week stretches i love florio i know how's he fucking come up with this stuff i mean it might be true but i i was like oh that's that's a fun little it's fascinating yeah yeah no one's doing it like that anymore man him and she's out there just i know dude just ripping it my favorite passes so pro football talk just ripping it's like the most antiquated webs nothing else exists like pro football talk and they've had this button and unfortunately they modernized it which made me sad because it used to look like this website from 25 years ago and there's just a button on it called all caps bang it here for the latest news and rumors exclamation point bang it here nothing on the internet gives me literally nothing in football makes me happier than just bang it here for the latest news love it um he might be right he might be he might be a fucking genius did you know that psoriatic arthritis may progress over time and could cause permanent joint damage if left untreated listen to what it says it sounds like to be a million miles away trim fire guselcomab taken by injection is a prescription medicine for adults with active psoriatic arthritis serious allergic reactions increased risk of infections or lower ability to fight them and liver problems may occur before treatment get checked for infections and tuberculosis tell your doctor if you have an infection flu-like symptoms or need a vaccine imagine being a million miles away explore the possibilities ask your doctor about trim fire tap this ad 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artist every year oh okay and jay-z then has now chosen himself which like i like if if rock nation's job if it wasn't rock nation's job and it was just jay-z was i think people be happy about like it's like it's cool can i give you my theory on why this happened and i think i'm at least partially right i don't know how much okay basically like why did jay-z do this now and i think there's a lot of reasons and i'm sure some of them i know and most of them i don't know however there's one reason i think this really was the kernel in his mind the knicks won the nba championship and it was like the best moment in new york city history and nobody fucking gave a shit about jay-z nobody played empire state of mind and nobody cared about jay-z he wasn't invited to any of it because he tried to own that quarter of a percent of the nets and he tried to make the nets a thing and it's the biggest failure he's ever tried to business was to make the nets a thing they're culturally soulless irrelevant i don't think this is like image reclamation i think it is because he's like he wasn't even no one was mad at him no one thought about him at all jada kiss was more relevant than jay-z all summer in new york city every new york the svu actor was more famous morisca hargitay hosted the emmys yeah that's hosting snl it is like being a new york celebrity like jay-z was supposed to be like the number one new york celebrity and he fell down like behind uh the the guy in mr deeds who does all the adam stay on the movies john turturro who's getting more airtime with the knicks than jay-z and i think he actually has to this is i think this is part of that uh i just love that that goodell the nfl pays rock nation five million dollars a year to pick the artist and they're like great thanks it's me thanks for the five million it's me it's like we you know what look we don't get paid to be the halftime show yes so we're getting paid to choose me for the halftime show apparently miley cyrus and bieber were considered um i also he's cool i'm sure beyonce will come out like it'll probably be great no it will be good i mean yeah i mean i also beyonce coming out imagine if she didn't come out it'd almost be like a larger story if beyonce didn't show up yeah it's just so good did you guys have it did you see that a kid named his son nixon five fuck that's sick i wish oh like k-n-i-c-k-s-o-n space this is like seinfeld when george is like i want to name my kid like mickey mantle seven and then someone else was like good idea i'll do that he's like no that's my idea one of my favorite episodes he came up with the name seven um yeah nixon five f-y-v-e nixon five so i i gotta tell you that's good i wore my nix championship hat a lot around dc the last couple weeks and the best feeling and so i don't live in new york i live in dc and it is the best thing ever people will just stop in the middle of the street and scream at me i had a box truck pull over in the middle of traffic and just starts hey hey you hey you and i'm like what he's like nixon five and like delivery drivers will just stop on their bikes and be like just start pointing at me and i'm like what and i'm like oh i'm wearing a nix hat this guy's like go nix like every you can't walk around if you were a Knicks gear and not running to other Knicks fans. will you name your son nixon i mean he'd go by nick you could go by n-i-x-o-n like is the spelling like richard nixon nixon it's spelled like nick like a new york nick k-n-i-c-k-s-o-n nixon knickerbocker that's great i would i would talk to jackie about it i i would bring it up the last thing before we get to ringer 107 did you guys see that photos of justin herbert buying miller light at a grocery store in l.a i was like hoping it was ai i know i thought it was fake yeah he's in los feliz which i believe just means that madison beer leaves lives in los feliz because i think herbert lives on the west side but yeah he's just in a grocery store in a sweatshirt buying miller light i feel like this is our first we we have our ben affleck of the nfl it's justin herbert yes it is absolutely the he did look like tired it's exactly what it is tired he had flowers and and a couple of cases of miller light and shuffling those into his car on a gloomy day it's great i have nothing else to say i just thought that was great it's really good i hope he's doing okay yeah i mean he's having some miller lights with his girlfriend with his fiancee on a friday or saturday night whatever this is very much like the version of the matt or the the ben affleck smoking outside just yeah just every time he picks up duncan donuts he gets photographed it's great like ben affleck the only joy in my life is is fucking smoking this dart right now ben affleck went on subway takes and apparently that was the guy that was so good yeah he got ben affleck and he was like i wish people i wish your the photos of you weren't as famous as your movies and he's like me too man me too and he was like the thing that sucks is like it's only really been like four times that i actually got photographed picking up duncan donuts but there's so many angles of it it feels like it's different days but it's not oh man oh wait dk did you want to say something about that i don't know if it's a good thing or oh wait dk did you want to talk about so the nba started last night do you want to talk about lamella balls travel yeah so you know the commercials with the progressive coach life coach who tries to keep new homeowners from turning into their parents i do feel like i need someone like that around me at all times because of this particular thing i can't i have to say something about this what the fuck are we doing how is that amount of travel he he's the first nba player to like ice skate on the court it's the most egregious thing i've ever seen it actually fills me with rage i i it's egregious enough that i think it might bring everybody together to like insight change it's the perfect player too lamella yeah totally the person they like talk shit after he did it uh like to the to someone on the sideline he claimed he's out of control he's like well i kind of let go of the ball and when you do that you can take as many as you want god damn it man i'm like literally fuck off that is the most blatant travel in the history of the nba yeah i feel dumb like i'm like i understand it's a boomer take to complain about traveling i totally understand that but i'm like i'm channeling like forrest gump i'm like i'm not a smart man but i know what a travel is and that's a fucking travel you could never convince me that's not a travel in a million years it's like eight steps he literally took five steps yeah i think it's like six seven i think it's yeah at least five it's so egregious that like it's a double showed somebody who didn't know what basketball was that play they'd be like that i can't be right whatever that is feels wrong it i like it makes me mad that people are in the nba and doing this like have you ever played basketball before it's a it's an epidemic anyways that i had to step is a fucking travesty i had to get that off my chest it's it's really quite something that was really bad it's really hard for new homo to try and not sound like i do feel very much like all the people in those commercials try to talk to you guys about basketball i'm like in my day you know that would that would be a great progressive commercial because you're like what why are they playing music during the game how come he's allowed to take seven steps what's that what is a gather i don't know what that is you must be really good at basketball so he's just not playing tonight but but we're here we're paying for tickets mode management tickets must be cheap right yeah yeah so he's hurt no he's healthy what do you mean he's healthy he's not playing it just it fills me with rage to watch that clip what have they done to my sport oh my god it's so good yeah anyway there was a lot of like the nba's cooked tweets after this you're like it's over i would absolutely love if this is the turning point gets people back together we got to get back together we got to get back together we got to get back together get this figured out guys all right 107 time today's ringer 107 is brought to you by fan duel 107 seconds on the clock are we still in first place we tied for first we're tied for first yeah so we're in first all right here are the things that's right here are the things i like i like green bay plus three at detroit sold wait oh shit i already said sold i didn't mean that but we're going with it now i like i feel like everybody's overblowing the denver thing and i kind of just want to take denver minus four and a half i'm going to take denver minus four and a half against the cardinals i also had that i love that yeah um the other i have a teaser here which is i have the the the texans down to four and a half against the giants and i have the raiders up to oh my god it's the rams i wrote down the same teaser craig did you really all right i barely know how these things work we're on the same page all right well i can't there's no if you guys both were down what are the odds of that i should do it like that i'm not gonna argue that i was gonna do houston lang all the points but i'm not gonna argue that i was gonna do houston lang all the points but i was like screw it so we're just locking that in the only other things i had is kansas city plus two and a half is a rat line i feel like everyone's gonna be on that but maybe i want it and then the other thing i was gonna throw out that i don't think anyone's gonna have is the eagles plus four and a half at home versus the cowboys this is you want to bet against my homes on monday night you want to bet on no no i was gonna bet well maybe i don't know about my home against moms on sunday football you want to bet on tanner key on monday night football i i think we lock in denver minus four and a half um wait what do you what do you guys think vikings uh minus six and a half against the colts another rat line i feel like everyone will be on that but yeah in theory i'm like yeah absolutely of course that one feels too easy i talk about things that feel wait hold on when you say the raiders in a parlor you want to do raiders getting ten and a half yeah yeah all right uh in that case i i want to do i want to do the panthers giving three i know what you're saying about the bucks but baker's coming back from this thumb early and the panthers oh that's it three bets this week we'll see you next week uh i'm down for carolina plus three or minus three let's cook what's what's our fourth bet you want to do chiefs you want to do the eagles just do my homes on monday night dk are you scared of the are you scared of you think the seahawks gonna win or not uh that's not a game i would really want to bet on personally i i think the seahawks defense is elite you don't want to have a rooting interest in the opposing team against your seahawks no dude wait what are the we should we take the browns over the titans dude that game's gonna be nasty we just won't watch we'll just do a first half under browns minus one and a half oh that was sorry that was the game i wanted to do is we can't just bet the lions under can't wait the line's over i mean the line's over i wanted to tease that down but all right what is it what's our fifth what are we doing we have texans raiders teaser denver green bay carolina we need a fifth we can just figure it out later okay oh do you think we'll remember i don't know set set a reminder not bad though we got we got three bets in in 107 seconds not bad okay four that was really three wait so well we got the fourth one after the gong yeah technically after the gong after the great gong today's ringer 107 is brought to you by fan duel odds subject to change okay thank you dk thank you craig thank you to everyone emailing ringer fantasy football uh gmail.com i love the stupid court we kept getting stupid court emails i want hell yeah fantasy oh hell yeah i can't wait i'm excited for stupid can't wait uh fart or short stories those are great short short stories and stupid court should we just do like a fifth episode every week it's just called stupid court for an hour we might be able to um not against it thank you lauren lauren oh guilty pleasures we're getting down to it dk you're up man last two hyphens hyphens did wow by post malone i did i just had sex by the lonely island dk like hyphens yesterday i'm like man i have so many that i want to choose from i heard this the other day can't help but sing along maybe not like the most badass song of all time but i really love it third eye blind semi-charmed life no dk that's not embarrassing that's like one of the best songs ever okay not embarrassing enough i'm actually willing to take this off the list if you want me to go more embarrassing i think semi-charmed life is like one of the more like if you pull up a more embarrassing song and left it off i just think it's kind of embarrassed i i maybe like embarrassing is not the right word we don't know about third eye blind what what do we know people like third eye blind like what's embarrassing you're just sitting there singing it sounds kind of earlier it's just ridiculous okay um if you don't if you guys don't want to include that though i got another i got a backup let's hear it let's hear the backup all right george michael careless whisper that's good sex saxophone saxophone or in the genre yeah it's fucking good sing it for me um fuck tonight the music seems so loud the sax at the beginning is just it's almost so absurd that if you pulled up at a red light and that was playing it would almost like circle back from embarrassing back to like this guy fucking rocks like is this guy a youtuber am i being filmed yeah oh man that's a that's a good one yeah what is it like like cheating what i need to look up the lyrics because they're so good um fuck he says uh guilty feet have got no rhythm i'm never gonna dance again guilty feet have got no rhythm george michael bangers yeah dude yeah anything with a saxophone man i'm gonna bring it back saxophone riffs like eddie money you could have probably gone wake me up before you go go as well by wham oh that's like straight out of zoolander orange mocha frappuccino a freak gas fight accident a freak gasoline accident i think just that part i'm like it'd be funny to see someone singing that sure it is silly i guess the best part is that song is about like doing heroin yeah which are crystal meth not heroin that's a great song though all-timer yeah like one of the best choruses now sing it you gotta sing it i want something else to get me through this baby yeah these guys look like not listening when you say goodbye great song really scary album cover you know that one i know you don't know it let me send it to you you'll see it in your nightmare oh is it the red thing oh wow this looks like an ari aster movie yikes oh my god that's horrible yeah it's no good sorry it doesn't really freak me out anymore because i've just been forced to watch horror films for the last month on the rewatchable so i'm becoming desensitized that hyphens by the way you never answered or maybe i forgot but you never answered how many pieces of shit have you seen yeah yeah how many pieces of shit respectful well not as many as you think how many have you seen more than one i don't want to jinx it so you haven't seen any what are you jinxing them no i yeah no it's people have been very you people haven't been saying their shit see you guys all freaked out when i said this we have respectful listeners not anymore somebody man up take a photo of your poop here's what's gonna happen everyone i'm gonna forward to you that's gonna be the rule go ahead that's fine i'll look at it if you do i don't like 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