Week 6 Studs & Duds + Fantasy Outliers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/19

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Ride. Welcome in! It's another Monday, October 19th, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Mike, the fantasy hitman, Jason Moore, and Andy Holloway. Back at it. I am giggling because I was busy with kids and college auditions and stuff, but I was just giggling because I might have just taken a gander at the Monday, and. Oh, you took a little peekskey? The second to last bad one. It made me giggle, so we'll get down. Yeah, I know. I like it when Mike hears them fresh. I thought you might be giggling as you beat both of us. Oh, yes, you're two super teams. So, Andy, you have a super team that is truly going to win a championship because you're unbelievable. You have, like, the number on quarterback, two top five widers. She was two top five running backs, maybe more than that. And my team that is playing for 2027. Yeah, I mean, sucks. We have a lead median, so your record is one and nine. Go on. Yes, exactly. I beat you. And then in the dynasty league. Having Gibbs on by was enough to just. I bet you wish he had Gibbs. And then in the dynasty league where Mike is genuine, unbeatable. A great team. He is the current champion. And in that league, I do want to take him down this year. I am competitive. I did beat him. And so, I'm coming off a high. That feels good. You're coming off a high, Andy, on the hole in one. We talked about on the show, but the whole video was out now. It is. Look, I don't do this often. We don't do this often. In fact, hopefully, never before, never again. But Matt, the Falcon. Oh, man. What a great job making that video, editing that video. God, I want to throw it. You know, and just. No, you really deserve it. It's very good. You crushed it. You did a great job. The video is awesome. It doesn't matter. Show your wives, show your kids, show your auntie, because it is an awesome, fun video of magnificent proportions. Yeah, it was, you know, everybody's response to it. People got emotional. I did. People saw it. I was there. And you got emotional. And then when he said it, he got me with the music. I know. It was well done. He told a real story. And you actually get to see the entire crew. That's what I loved about the videos. You see the whole. Like the doosters here, you get a glimpse at them. Sometimes when they're not hiding behind glasses and hats and. Well, the middle one doesn't hide. But. You get to see everybody else. Yeah, it's great. It was Snyder. You get to see some crazy weather. You get to see a crazy special version of Mike. You get to see Jason Dodge golf balls on the green in the most hilarious way possible. And I do recommend turning your sound down maybe the last 30 seconds to avoid Matt's sounds behind the camera. Well, here's what's funny. He was excited. That's a word. Something. Yeah, it was the word. He was. He was out of breath. And it came through. But, no, it was, it was just a special core memory for the team. It needs to be seen. Yes. So check that out. YouTube.com/DFantasyFootballers. We posted it on Saturday morning. One of the few days we don't have a show because Mike is live on Sunday mornings. And we got shows the rest of the week. So it is up there. You can check it out. Like I said, YouTube.com/DFantasyFootballers. Let's go ahead and get into your Monday, Monday reaction. So the weekend everyone submitted by the fine people on Instagram and Twitter. Sending it our direction as we react to what was a crazy weekend in a lot of ways. Starting with one of the reasons I lost because Jason had almost no one to start. But he started Blake Scorrel. Yes, he does. Of course he did every week. How about CJ Proud? Yes, he played great. Ken Boom Walker. Yes, or Winnith Walker III. I like Tyler Schuck Norris. I like to do. Mike. We got Bechel Scootin. Yeah. The Booty Scootin. We got Emeka Egg Boo-ya. And Jeremy Bernard Dog. I don't even understand it. Oh, the Nard Dog. No, what's a Nard Dog? People get it. Okay. Smile Pits. Matthew Golden Boy. Yeah. Yay, Tucker. He's a me-like. And Holy Shock as well. Yeah. They weren't all good. Oh, dude. We had heinous Winston up there. That's part of why you beat me, Jason. How about Camp Sats of Boo or Camp Scata? Who? Or just Camp Scat. Yeah. That's what it really should be. Martian Void. Wack Prescott. Generic Henry. Oh, how about. I've seen a lot of players from my team. Yeah. Crying Williams. Oh, hey, Zay Flounders. Uh, Poo Won Johnson. Oh, this one hurts. AJ Frown. Oh, this one hurts, too. I'll take it, Mike. Glass McConkey. Okay, Jason. Yeah, this one I was giggling about. Irritable Bowers Syndrome. So good. Damn. Damn, darn it. Thank you. Hashtag Monday, Monday, every Sunday night. That's one of my favorite. I've seen Irritable Bowers Syndrome. I mean, I. You know, you're still going to. That was like my whole team. Al Borland somehow is still going to lose. But he ends up playing Bowers and Puka who have their worst. Henry didn't have a great. And how did you lose? And your team scored a ton of points? Yeah. I think he was relying on Marshaun Lloyd. All right. We had some outlier performances this weekend, which we'll talk through on a brand new segment. Bank on it smartly. Presented by US Bank. All right. Every week, we're going to look at three outlier performances. Good or bad. And, uh, we're going to decide. Do we bank on it? Do we not bank on it? Tyrone Tracy, Jr. This is a great conversation. This conversation is annoying. Yeah. There was a point early in the game. By the way, Tyrone Tracy had. He basically had a rushing touchdown and a receiving touchdown. Great game. On eight opportunities. Camp Scataboo had six snaps, no touches. The report, part of why I lost, by the way, if you want to know if the fantasy experts are idiots sometimes. Yes, they are. The report came out that Camp Scataboo is going to get punished for his fumble. So, what happened? Oh, he got punished. He had how many carries? Zero. So, they said, "Nazi will start." And I said, "I'm going to go spin fab." "I've got a biweek. I've got two spots to fill." I'm going to go get the starter for the Giants and fire them up because there's just no way I don't get. I just needed a baseline. Did you put Tracy in there? I did not. Oh, you would have beat me. Yeah, I got Nazi who scored 0.6 points and was awful. But Devon Singletary had 40% of the snaps. If you listen to the press conference from Harbaugh, he's like, he basically said, "We got four guys." Nine of them have gotten a hold of the job. So, you think I want to play all four? The press conference was. Destructively upsetting. Harbaugh. Watching this. So, he is not happy with the question. He's not happy with the situation. What he said was that he absolutely did not punish Cam for the fumble. That was not what happened. They've got four guys in the rotation. They're waiting for someone to step up and no one has stepped up. He doesn't want to have four guys out there. He wants to have one guy and all of those guys want to step up and nobody's doing it. So, according to him, the normal operating procedure was that Cam has been so bad that they put him last and didn't give him a touch. Now, obviously, that is not true. That is not. That part's true, but he was clearly also and obviously punished for the fumble. In the locker room afterwards when you're talking to Cam's cataboo, he's like, "Yeah, I'm punished for the fumble." For sure, he knows he's got to do better. He can't fumble and not just fumble. I mean, this is supposed to be about Tyrone Tracy. But this is. Well, let's just imagine about it. The answer to Tyrone Tracy is. Don't bank on it. Well, I was going to say is Cam's cataboo. It's like, "Is Cam's cataboo doghouse this season?" Well, I mean, to me, yeah, it's Giants Running Vax. And my answer is you can't bank on any of them. I agree. Because I don't believe that you're going to make the jump from zero snaps in doghouse to dominator on a team that. Look, what kind of man they got a quarterback now? Maybe part of what happened yesterday, too, is they said, "We got down by so many points. The third down guy's got the snaps. It was single Terry and Tracy. You didn't see. Like, he basically was saying Cam was in there. We didn't intentionally not hand him the ball. We didn't call it running play when Cam was in there. He was in there six times. Yeah, but Naji. I mean, Naji started and got like, what, three or four carries? And they were awful, of course. Yeah. But, no, I wouldn't. I would say that my verdict is don't bank on it for any of these guys. And I think the one that could emerge as a, you know, The RB-23 guy would be Cam, Skataboo. in a redemption role, but you don't know the quarterback. You don't know, the team is, I don't know. I don't feel like I can. - No, I don't think you can bank on anyone in this. - It's bad. - It feels right now. If you have to bank on someone, it would be Kim Skataboo. I expect him to, just because he is the most talented of the group. - Yes. - And all the time last week, it just he's into a fumble. - Yeah, and when you watch the press conferences and all the questions and everything that the people around, the media, Harbaugh, this was my fear before the season. Like, I love Kim Skataboo. I wanted at one point to make him a my guy. I know that was quickly, I was like, I don't believe he's a Harbaugh guy. And if Harbaugh wants to be like, the whoo's at practice and then banging your head into the wall and all that. - He's a wild man. - Wow, some dog stuff is not Harbaugh. - Oh, he's a cat guy. - Yeah. - Oh, Harbaugh loves kiddies. He's a kitty cat guy, for sure. - Yeah, the media is, we'll see. - But they're not gonna let them see how long they let Harbaugh keep doing this. - Exactly, they're not going to, the media is not going to allow them to just not use that. - They will turn adversarial on you in New York, dude. - Especially if you keep losing. So don't bank on it for those. Trey Tucker, Raiders, White Receivers, start of the week. - Yeah, start of the week. - Yeah, maybe. - Five for 97 and two. Kirk Cousins on Trey Tucker said, Trey Tucker can just roll. I played with the Shawn Jackson. I've played with four two guys. He's faster than I realize he is. There's a time I need to launch and he'll go get it. His 17 game pace, now 99 target. 68 for a thousand and nine. - Wow. - Final year under contract, the catch with Trey Tucker is like, there are dudes like this. - The catch is, he is Trey Tucker who has done this to us. And he will do it again two more times this year. - The big game. - The big game. - Yeah, he did it in week two. He was the White Receiver six in week two, the White Receiver two so far this week. - And part of why, you know, talk about why you made him a start of the week. - Yeah, because he's a great matchup play. First of all, the Jalen Nailer injury brings clarity to the White Receiver room. The Buffalo matchup was just too good. You knew Nailer was there. - Sure, but he's been out. He's been, you know, he hasn't been a part, like he wasn't a practice most of the week. So you knew that game plan wise it was going to be Trey Tucker as the focal point. - Yeah, well, you know what's so funny? Irritable bowler syndrome and the pooped in his big boy pants. He had 70 yards, like, how good is he? - Yes. - How good is any player where, I mean, not even a White Receiver at tight end, he had 70 yards and we're like, - I wrote it out. - It's you, you saw. - Didn't he have no targets at halftime? - Correct. - He had a line in the game. - So it worked itself out enough. - But I do think in the future you're going to have games and they're not going to be for a while. I'm not going to play Trey Tucker against the Rams, the Jets, the Niners, the Seahawks, Denver or Cleveland, and then they're bi-week. So, but later in the year when they get Arizona and championship week, if, I mean, I'll bet he ends up having a good game. - So final verdict on Trey Tucker. - Don't unfortunately. - It's a don't bank on it for me as well. One more chance at it. Omar Cooper, Jr., okay. Comes, so he had a play in the first week of the season. Touchdown, I think. Let me double check that. - I know it was either. - Omar Cooper, first play. - White Receiver for the New York Jets. - Okay, and a 30 yard catch got hurt and knocked out. He hadn't made, like we had made a big deal about the fact that this dude wasn't getting preseason play. - Yeah, he was. - Then he comes back this week against New England and throws up six for 103 and one. 82% of the snaps is a first round pick. And he had missed the four games with the ankle sprain. Now, Garrett Wilson had a down week. Had an Imitial still out. - This was a Christian Gonzalez game, which is part of the Garrett Wilson issue. I'm part of the Omar Cooper, Jr. issue is like, and Adon I Mitchell was not there. So, and Canyon Cedique was, so it's like. - He barely played you. - This was a great situation for Omar Cooper to just happen to be. However, he is a first round pick. They spent capital, money, and he's a talented player to bring him on the field. And what he showed in this game was some great play. He also had a touchdown in this game that was called back due to penalty. So like, his game was even better than this great game he finished with. You, I mean, when you want a bank on something, you bank on talent and capital spent. - This is exactly the Jeremy Bernard of last week. - Sure. - For me. - Like, well, is Omar Cooper, is it gonna keep going? Dad, I can't say that for sure, but we like to bank on situations. And all the variables are in the right direction for Omar Cooper. Look, six for one on three with a score. That's, it's probably his best week, probably. But when it comes to the waivers, I will absolutely be put some of the points for him. - We have a snap percentage for him, 'cause that's 82%. - Yeah, I mean, I, the problem is the return of Mitchell, the problem is they play slower than molasses and they, they were coming back in this game. Like, one of the reasons Jason and I are now gonna be in a, a tie breaking face off this evening, because I took the under on Geno Smith against Christian Gonzalez in this New England defense that had been dominant. Well, they were dominant. And then the Jets were put in this position where they, they turned over what, Demario Douglas on that play. They had a couple extra possessions. They had to throw the ball at ton in the second half. They're preferred, now their preferred method may not work, but their preferred method is, let's run the football, let's drain the clock. So I don't know if, I wish there was a middle ground between bank on it and don't bank on it. - I think the question that we're asking is not whether you can bank on him having a hundred yards and a touchdown every week, but can you bank on Omar Cooper being part of this offense? And I think he is-- - Is that a yes for you? - That's a yes, that's a bank on it for me. - It's a yes for me as well. I mean, it's, it's crazy to me how just how identical this is to Bernard of, you have the players like, 'cause Adny Mitchell, while Omar Cooper was not the hotness of the offseason, Adny Mitchell was. He like, he was having his own little drumbeat going on from the New York media. But this, when you trade up from 33 to 30, you trade back into the first round to ensure that you're going to get the player that you wanna get, and then he has a great game. This is where you move forward and you figure it out. And you're like, this is now the plan. - Yeah, and Campy was behind Isaiah Williams, that's done. Like he is, he's gonna be at least the third wide receiver on the field now. - So you guys are both bank on it? - Yeah. - And you're like, you know, the wide receiver three was for them this past week, the Jets. - Fireball Jones. - Oh! - AKA. - Oh my god. - Patrick, I don't know if you could not realize that yet. - Oh, he pulled in a catch, and he turned around. And it said Patrick, and I said, - Oh my god. - To Patrick. - Fireball Jones. - I'm gonna tell you right now, I did not know he was still in NFL playing football. - And it turns out he caught two passes last week, so where was I? - All right, you guys went bank on it. That was bank on it, smartly presented by US bank, US bank smartly. Checking and savings accounts are designed to work together so they can reward you more. Sign up today at usbank.com/smartly. Official bank sponsor of the NFL and member FDIC, 2026 US bank. We'll take a quick break and we'll jump into some news. - News and notes from around the league. - There was one other, the Tim Patrick, you finding out he plays football. There was another moment that we had in the studio here, Jason, when there was a large. - Oh, there was a giant. - A giant large tight end. - It's our Gantler, J-Pan. - J-Pan. - Oh my god boy. - Moale Cox into the end zone again this week for those that remember the good old days. - It's almost like the tight end position for the Colts could have been good this week. - Almost. - Almost. - Oh, you're better. - Yeah. - Yeah, that was my price fix. - The war and surprise in active was growing, right? - Yes, it was. He needs to do the butterfly stretch. - I know. - I'll teach you, butterflystretch.com. (laughing) - Come with me. - Let's stretch. - If you sold a course, would you sell one? - Absolutely. - Absolutely. - If you put the effort in, and it's got to be-- - I would only sell it to NFL player. - Oh, you said let the public buy. - No, this is for step one sit down. - Well, of course, sit down. - Okay. - That's what I didn't know if there were you extra steps. - Is there a pre-stretch before you do the butterfly stretch? - No, no, no. You want to go straight into it. - Straight into it. - You don't want any muscles getting confused that you're trying to loosen them up. - There's no caterpillar stretch before the-- - No, straight to the butterfly. - All right, NFL news to talk about. We got to get serious for a minute here, because the Eagles have placed jail and hurts officially on injured reserve. He's expected to miss the remainder of the NFL season. He had a superficial blood clot that became a deep vein from Bosis. - Yes. - He also has some of the clots traveled to his lungs, which can be a pulmonary embolism. - It's a serious and scary situation. - So he will be placed on blood thinners, and when you're on blood thinners, which we saw this with Chris a lot of it last year, but we also saw this, wasn't it-- - We've seen it a few times. - I mean, we've seen it in NBA a little bit, but like you cannot play football when you're on blood thinners. And so he is going to, that's a minimum. one three months. Yeah, so he's done for the season, done for not just the fantasy football season, but the NFL season, he will, he'll be gone. And then it also came out just to dab him up a little bit. Yes, this must be reported because I hadn't seen it. Yeah, when he was in London and kind of diagnosed with some of this stuff, they told him that he can't sleep like it's dangerous to sleep. So he was up for 36 hours and then went and played football dog dog and then got diagnosed with a, you know, a very serious condition. So he is done for the season and honestly, so are the Eagles. Yeah, the Eagles already were dealing with injuries everywhere. Now it's just like, and they try to get Andy Dalton back and Andy Dalton said, no, thank you. I will sign with someone else. Yeah, which I think we'll get reported the next day. I love it. I believe he's signing with Atlanta. Oh, okay. Oh, because they released Cooper Rush. So there are three losses in a row now. For the first time in a long time for the Philadelphia Eagles. The Steelers, we found out before the gameplay was Wilson on injured reserve. And we had the breakout performance. Jeremy Bernard, Jeremy Bernard wheels up. What what's funny is that playing Aaron Rodgers would have been fine again. I mean, yet again, they were down 16 to zero. And hopefully a while. I mean, they had three points in the first half. Jeremy had 12 targets. Mecca had 15. That is insane. Like the passing game had, they basically throw on every play. That's why there were some puns submitted for Jalen Warren or Jalen Boring or whatever they sent in Josh Jacobs. This was humongous news. Yeah. Yeah, we have the biggest fantasy news of the week. Josh Jacobs is expected to be removed from the commissioner's exemplest today. It was the last hurrah from March on Lloyd. And he's like, hey, I want to go three for negative two in my final game. He wanted to prove to final stat line. Yeah. My eyeballs said it was terrible, but I didn't look at his actual stats. Your eyeballs were correct. Yeah. The pack and your eyeballs translated to three for negative two. Josh Jacobs, they also came out and said that he is, I mean, not that anyone surprised, especially after Lloyd, but they came out and said he's immediately the starter. So he'll be the starter coming week seven. The way that this was presented by the NFL is that he is active. You know, it's basically he's spent the six games kind of time served. The investigation will be forever ongoing. They're trying to get the tape. If the tape comes out, they reserve the right to punish him a way big time. You know, it seems like right now. I mean, obviously the police would not release the video. So they decided to, you know, take him off the list. He is active and ready to go starting in week seven until the until something changes in the future. All right, Monday night football updates, JCM, Djokordi Kroski merit ruled out Stefan Diggs still questionable, monitoring that same with Mike Evans pivots there and Tony Williams for the commanders, Brandon Cook's most likely Jacob Cowling as well for the 49ers. It would be an impression Kirk last. I saw he was questionable. I think I'd lean. I would not go to Kirk. If Evans plays because he has really banged up. I mean, I think right now people said he's not going to play. I don't. I'm on the other side. I think if he plays just half a sardom. I don't. Those other pivot options. Brennan Cook's Antonio Williams. Like if Evans was out there, I would just throw Evans out there that he gets a seven-yard touchdown. But it's though. Good Lord. The risk. He's a dog. He is, but he's a broken dog. Yes. He's an old broken dog. The Colts fired Chris Ballard culture circling the drain right now. They lost to Tennessee, which we know is a great kind of benchmark of your season. The Cardinals blew it last year and lost the Tennessee. They're only win. We had another injury. Devonte Adams left in the fourth quarter. A left leg injury happened on the final drive. Look like non-contact. There's a little bit more to it because there was a play. The immediate play before he had kind of been rolled up on or hit on the leg knee. Thank goodness. Yeah. The first thought, if you just see a play like that, you think ACL, MCL. Killies. Killies. But we don't have an update. And nobody asked Sean McVey. Probably any questions at all because he was probably. He was angry. They lost to the card. They lost to the Cardinals. The Cardinals are 2 and 0 at so fine. Yeah. That's more wins than the chargers and Rams have combined at so fine. We should just. Hey, LA, you want a team? Dude, oh, dude, you could use a 13. Take them. Oh, think I thought you were swapping us all swapping for the Rams. Yes. Oh, no, don't you do that. Don't don't give me the charter. That's what first popped into my head. It's like why curse or curse? Don't do that. Lad McConkey, who cannot possibly stay healthy. This is a third different injury. By the way, I am cursed this year. Concussion in the first quarter has the ribs and also has the. What was the other injury? It's head shoulder. Knees and toes. Yeah. Knees and toes. Knees and toes. And this week, he goes to the buy, which means he can't hurt you this week. Put him in a chamber. Yeah. Just let him recover. Honestly, after week one, I feel like they should have. They should have just given him a week. This, this is like the example of really feeling like you need a guy and rushing him back. And then he's one injury leads to another leads to another because he's just not ready. Let him heal up. You need him so badly. In incredible other ways that I lost to the worst team in the league this week, Romeo Dobbs exited the game, which I faced him. He did the thing. He did the thing. He gave you a lot of 42 yard touchdown. Yeah, the injury was on a big play for Jason needed that. And then left with an AC joint sprain. I mean, he could have done a lot more. You know who else could have done a lot. Oh my gosh. AJ freaking brown. What happened if you are not to if you are not aware. Oh, look at the box score. And you see, oh, you like, whoa, it was a three for 30 or something like that. Something, something around there. He had a very down game. And then you're like, whoa, he had three for 27, three for 27. He had 10 targets. He dropped the touchdown. He dropped five passes. Yes. And he did one was a touchdown. One was a bomb. You know, sometimes you run too fast. And then you're like, oh my gosh, you kind of outrun it. No, he was he was the opposite. He looked like he had slowed down to make the catches. It was just slow to begin with. It was a horrific showing this week. And I can tell you like, I he's my start of the week this week. Primetime AJ Brown got 10 targets. It is not bad. No, no, no, I just do you think he's gonna drop 10 to five passes a game? Yeah, I don't, but I also was just not impressed with him in general in terms of like what do you look like out there? And then he almost gave the jets a chance at the end. Like he screwed up the onside kick. Yeah. Like he was you couldn't have had a worse game. No, it was awful. Rashad Bayman exited with his shoulder injury. Yeah, Jacobi Lane was four for 40, by the way. I don't think I evaluated for a rib injury, which he came back. Yeah, but I mean, see, here's the problem, Mike. Okay. And I know you're living in a different head space than we are. Okay. You're like, he's back. I thought he had a deep state. He was called back. Oh, is that when you wrote that? Yes. Okay. That makes me because you said in our chat, you're like, can Kate is back with all caps? Yeah. I go and look. Nothing happened in a touchdown, but 38 yards receiving. And I'm like, he, I mean, he had more targets. Yeah. He led the team in targets and receptions. Here's the thing. That's a honestly, that's a big deal right now. It's a big deal. But, but the, uh, they're gonna go into the buy. I don't like seeing him on an injury report because he has lingering injuries every year. And you're going to get DJ more back after the buy. So it's still up. DJ more might legit be better for Donkin, Kate. Yeah, it could be like, uh, this was so happy they didn't play DJ more. This was, let him have the buy week. The Donkin, Kate, uh, I see it as positive that you out, you were out there, you ran your normal amount of routes. You got hyper targeted. The production didn't come. And you had a touchdown that was called back. So it's, we're, we're, I'm, look, that's not a like, hey, we've solved the issue, but it's a, we can buy some more time here. If you had to lock King Cade or pits into your lineup, the rest of the season, because pits has had two good weeks now in a row. It's not, and it's not just good weeks for pits is the, the target share has really gone up. I mean, he is in the best irony. I, he has single handedly saved my chop team for two straight week. He unniely, I played him in both big leagues. Oh, face them. Yes. And you lost because of him. That is correct. Yeah. I mean, I'd probably lead that last second garbage. My 12 personnel, against, against Mike. I had one run back to energy drinks. Do you have all three here? Not enough. I almost knocked one out of fuel me. You only drink half of your coffee. You drink half. I'm in the process. Oh, that one's a fresh one. This is just old. Okay. Yeah. Let's move on to the less important things. This week's fantasy stud muffins. All right. Quarterback starts or quarterback studs, rather. Trevor Lawrence CJ Stroud. Yeah. What a game on five or two. Start the week. Yeah. That was, uh, Lawrence was number one. Stroud was number five. You had Chuck Drake May, who continues to torture Al Boerlin after he released him. And Michael Pinnock's junior from the depths of how did he get on this list? He got on this list. I thought he was going to get benched. Kyle Pits. Kyle Pits, two touchdowns. They came back in that game. They actually like, they were down. And basically the bear said to hold on for dear life, dude. Pinnock's was all bad in that first half. Tyler Shock, I think, was the best one. Mike, your start of the week, I believe. No. Oh, no. No, he was in my prize picks, which the point of the prize picks was to say, I think that Tyler Shock is going to have a great game, which he, in fact, did. He just did it in different ways. Yeah, he was other than what I was. It was not a, yeah, the fantasy stats. Tyler Shock was also bad in the first half. Yeah. And even in the game, he threw 144 yards. Yep. I mean, that's not a lot. No, he had four touchdowns because he threw for three touchdowns on one 44 and then he ran for one and he ran for 32 yards. The offensive line is in shambles. There's going to be some, I mean, it was big for them to get that win. But there's going to be some tough weeks. I think Shock is going to be a very hit and miss play where you don't know when the week is going to be. I think you got to look at the password. So this coming week against Pittsburgh TJ Watt, that that's a scarier matchup. Thankfully, it's at home. So I think you can play him. But it was good to see him at least bounce back fantasy wise. We didn't expect him to be good two weeks ago against Minnesota. Right. So so far, he's kind of lived up to the hopes and expectations. How about Drake May, who after the first two weeks, he makes no sense. Who sucked? He is the quarterback one by a mile, the last three weeks, averaging 30 fantasy points per game. He makes no sense. Buffalo's defense, Raider's defense, Jets defense. I mean, that's not the, I mean, Jets are pretty good. I got good news for you. Yeah. Next week is Chicago. And then Miami check this out. Yeah. I mean, he's the number one by far over the last three weeks. His touchdown rate over the last three weeks is 10%. And it didn't matter that like guys keep getting knocked out. Yeah. He's figured it out. And I do still think that AJ Brown is obviously a positive for him. You know, AJ Brown is not going to be a guy that doesn't know how to catch the football going forward. He's, he's an exciting, you know, if you pick them up off of waivers, because I'm sure he was potentially dropped after a couple of weeks, that's the type of pickup that is going to change the, the trajectory of a team in your league. And like that, you know, those are the lucky things that happen where you, you end up winning a championship with Drake May because you didn't have to draft him. Stroud's been super good since the return of Nico. And then they added Marvin Harrison, who what did you think of Marvin? Obviously, I mean, I didn't expect a lot of snap. But I'm saying film wise looks wise route wise. I mean, I don't know. He looked fine. He looked good. I mean, there was some stuff that you don't see. I mean, Marv was stuck on, well, there you go. He was also stuck on the outside all the time in Arizona, like just not a lot of in breaking routes and stuff. The stuff he caught in this game where some, you know, slants and in breaking routes. I'm going to go watch all nine rounds today. So, and I'm done. Yeah. So yeah, the, uh, the running backs this week, Ken Walker was number one, number one in a big way. 19 for 128 and two. Also, Andy Reed. Sir, sir. Oh, don't tell me what happened. Sir, did I miss a play where I would have won against Jason? Oh, yeah. Oh, good. Yeah. Good. Good. Cause I lost by three elite play call all time. Hall of Fame coach. When we get to the goal line, stop just doing Walker up the middle. This is not how we succeed. How have you seen what Kenneth Walker is doing? And you're like, let's, let's work. We're just going to go jump off. We're going to go put the beef in. Actually, it's dumb. It's actually when you've got Patrick, if he runs use his speed, if he runs to the outside, he'll break the tackle. Exactly. He breaks tackles over everybody. So we had another one where it was another goal line, like, so I lost because of that. Cool. I just, I don't understand why they keep trying to do this when I feel like it's a pitch, a stretch, just anything, like at least towards the side where he can use his beat and break tackles. He's absolutely dominating the NFL. I saw a, uh, a tweet from Field Yates. This was interesting because he, Kenneth Walker running back one 26 points this week. The still have Monday night football to go. No player has reached 30 fantasy points this week, which hasn't happened in any full week since start of 2020. Yeah, you kind of, you are feeling that we had a very low median in our league. By the way, Ken Walker is 665 rushing hours this season. The most by any NFL player in history in their first five games of the team. They're doing it right, Mike. Mostly, mostly doing it right. I love it. James Cook. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Who does Kenneth Walker get to play next week? Oh, it's revenge team. Go into the team. Seattle. That's a tough matchup. I'm going to be talking about a prove yourself moment. Walker's above these things. He fantasy finishes this year at running back two, two, six, one, one. He didn't have to compete with Gibbs this week either. James Cook. Seattle is desperate for a run game. There was the tune breakout game. We were, we've been waiting for this. It was it. It was a little weird. He was 12 for 39 around and outrun by Crod. It was the touchdown regression game. Yes. And and he also, he had a touchdown call back. I don't feel like it was the tune. I guess fantasy. It was a redemption. What he's had. What he's had all year is tons of great looks, tons of work, all the opportunity and the touchdowns haven't come. And so now I just feel like we've been saying the fantasy points here to come. And this is kind of what happened. You had two receiving touchdowns. The fan, you had a great fantasy day with him. And it was just like, that's what's going, it's going to level out. It, it should, they're going into the by week. Crod did look good. 1155 on the ground. Like they started. It was the tuton show. And then Crod, once he finally got in, I was like, it was, I think, three straight awesome carries. So well, that's still TBD. But Basel Tudon should be a solid play remaining. How about 28 carries for Tuba Hubbard? Dude, 28 carries goodness gracious. He is one of three running backs who have finished with 13 plus fantasy points in every game. Gibbs, Ken bone, Tuba, it keeps going goodness gracious. Wide receivers, trade Tucker was number one on the week. That's a decent start of the week. Yeah. Thank you. Yes, the league neighbors 22.5 and from the depth almost all of it came late. Well, the fourth quarter, you, you had 18 come in. Double 9s, JJ McCarthy came in through a pick late in the, in the game, through pick. And then through another one. And then that actually got, they're like, oh, well, it barely got called back proceeded to bring the giants back into the game and throw more yard, throw for more yards in that quarter. Then Justin Herbert has achieved in any game this year. Beautiful. The of note, I don't know how many backups were in for the Saints, but I just, I saw Kelly Moore questioned about it. I've like, do you regret pulling your starters that early? And he was like, well, yeah. But so, well, while the, the double nine story, it was fun. It was very exciting. What do you think they do? Do they start JJ now? I, I imagine they will, I think they will. By the way, two of the top five scores this week were starts of the week. I just noticed that Tucker number one, Matthew golden at number five in between their neighbors, Jeremy Bernard, two, JS in. It worked out this week for those guys. Metcalf was also in this list. I mean, 11 for 93 on 15 targets. And he was 44% of the first read targets. It was a very slow start. A bunch of screen passes, but it accumulated. Talked about Omar Cooper Jr. Nice week for Jalen Noll. Four for one, seven. Yeah. Pay attention. The, uh, the non Nico Whiteouts seem to rotate big games from time to time. But Noll is a very good player. Devon Thay Smith, it worked out 14 targets, seven for 75. It took a long time. At least it's good to see, though, because you're, you're going to have a key going forward. Like you've got this quarterback. And now the fact that you, sure, that could change, but we know it's not Jalen Hertz. And so when Jalen Hertz is out of the way, is Devon Thay Smith dead. And it was like, okay, 14 targets. I mean, it turned into 75 yards and a touchdown. It, it was tough. But if you're going to tell me that he's getting 14 targets, I'm, I'm so happy to. He will also be pay attention for some injury news. Cause he's back up. I know he, he like, I think they had said he retweaked his hamstring. Yeah, you saw him down on the sideline, but he came back. His touchdown was after that. Was it? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. We had the first career touchdown from Carnell Tate, six for 70 in this game. Because, of course, he was on Jason's team facing me. How about a top 10 finish two weeks in a row? Demario Douglas, eight targets, seven for 86 and one. Now you have this AC joint injury to dobs. You have Matt Collins who has been out. You have AJ Brown coming back, but Douglas seems to be involved enough to be a spot start here and there. And then the tight ends who continue to dominate. I mean, Isaiah likely at the tippy top of the list every week. It was nothing. He had done nothing. 11 targets six for 99 and one two point conversion. The tight in one on the season. He's been the tight in one on three of six weeks. That's crazy. It's, it's very bizarre of how do you have John Harbaugh had this player last year. Like, yeah, but he had Mark Andrews. I, you know, it's weird. I know. I know he's, we're redeeming everything. Isaiah likely is the player who you said that he was. It's very bizarre though. Isaiah likely I don't know. The only the number one and number two tight ends this week are the only reason I was able to beat Mike because they and you started them both, which is not a traditional. No strategy like I told you. I played 12 personnel. Yeah, you got you got forced into it. Kyle Pitz was number two Tommy Trimble number three out of nowhere. No wall or it was Trimble. Colston. Yes. Freakin. There he is loved one on the board. I was saying we have not I wouldn't fool that. I would I would few. Yes. Oh, I guess that that feels like from Yeah, no, no, I get I get I meant like TBD on the future, but this is awesome to see. No, at the same time Again, this was like the first I mean we had that week one crazy game and then we haven't seen him with Caleb And so this was fantastic to five for 60 and one in the first half and then Well, they were just doing anything else in the second they No, it was awesome. It was I mean, it wasn't just him burden had a good game. Yeah, I'm leveling had a good game Swift had a good game happy to have Kayla back Rome had an awesome catch It was great. He did he had a that is three for 39 he started to be known for awesome catch. Yeah He's an awesome catch guy. Yeah, we'll take a break. We'll talk Duds Just real quick Because of the bear's situation of we're gonna still have to figure this out because Rome ran the most routes of the wider see recruit by a lot. He I'm seeing 40 Number two is Kaleef Raymond and then here Luther burden with his eight catches had 18 routes. Wow Like the targets per route run or off the charts for the database first first real game with Caleb back will keep building the Analysis here and see what happens in the future weeks Let's talk Duds Whooped in his big boy pants. Hi, brother. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Jack. What's going on here the last two weeks for Dak 34 for 54 Through two disgusting interceptions The pressure is getting to him and one of them was CD lamp fell over. Yes, but Yeah, I'm not putting that one on deck. Yeah, that was unfortunate, but the I don't know there's been an accuracy issue with that yeah, the last two weeks you've seen it on the field He took he took a Walloping early in that game and I wondered coming back after I was like is he gonna is he gonna look bad after that play because He got Smearsed. Yeah, if you want to know they were getting pressured. I haven't even looked at this number yet But I bet it's going to be terrible. I'm gonna go look Yeah, so the last two weeks when targeting Like CD lamp was 17 of 21 targets. The Tampa Bay game remember how bad Dak I mean they lost that game Remember how bad Dak looked accuracy wise So between the Tampa Bay game and the green Bay game 48% catch percentage targeting CD lamp like and you've watched these plays is not CD's fault I mean that the falling over one you take that away But like Dak's just been off. Yeah, and now the team is what two and four But they are I mean that is talk about the most winnable division Possible. Yeah, this could be if the commanders lose tonight This would be like the first time in a long time that the same division have had all four teams play in back-to-back weeks and all four teams don't win Gross, which is it's tough to do my homes. This was a no touchdowns for him It was worthy But not Worthy of a start because you didn't get any passing touchdowns had a pick bonix. We know the story. Oh, man I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb here I Think bonix will have a very very good bounce back game against Arizona next week It's in Arizona and the reason one of the reasons I believe it is because There's been a report. Did you see this where the the terminology report? Yeah, so like Davis web had a certain terminology that he was using and then when Peyton took Play calling back he completely changed it. I think Peyton wants to kind of settle The narrative on bonix this upcoming week and we'll see if he's capable of doing it But going to Arizona Arizona just upset the Rams I expect bonix to have a pretty good week. I don't know if I'm gonna go start of the week territory, but I think they'll get it figured out this week against the Cardinals. There is an all-time tweet out there from a big mic Who tweets bonix has the shortest name in NFL history five letters It is still longer than his average death of target 4.9. That's great. That's great. That's insane I see the video where they were showing I was like okay if you were a baseball player This is how many bitches it would take to get the home play it I mean you will see come back second half Come back to us and let me know what happens second half last week the average throw was behind the line of scrimmage I could do that I would hope so Peyton today says bonix is going to become the byproduct of all the things that get improved or whatever that means running backs I it's rare to get Monday, Monday entries for be John Robinson, but they came in this week Just nine for 61 in this game where they were getting boat raised kind of you think he'd be part of the solution to a boat race targets um So yeah, he says of course. He wishes Kevin Safansky says of course. He wishes. He got the ball into be John hands earlier Yeah Trying to find the guy who did this we obviously discussed cam scataboo already zero for zero for zero Not startable right now. You got to wait for the redemption first Derek Henry just 17 for 58 with a fumble a costly fumble and then you have down games from Ramondrade that one was What That was veered like we need to look into this so Ramondra was bad Travian Henderson did play if you missed that the Wolverine blood kicked in and he returned and then it but at the end of the game Corey Keiner was the one getting all the clock killing Carries well, we did know that Ramondrade had been banged up going into last week's game We thought he was going to miss last week's game. I don't know if they wanted to take the load off there and they obviously can't give it to Travian Mm-hmm and then Bucky because Travian fumbled again, which is Mind blowing like you have one thing you can't do they did put him back in after that Bucky Irving had 85% of snaps no Sean Tucker didn't get the go-align carry because they threw it 19 carries you liked that 46 yards You don't like that, but we're gonna get Baker back Baker should be back. I think next week against Carolina We'll see what happens there Tyler Algier was awful. It was bam night for Arizona. There's a point in this game where Algier was eight for eight Bam night having a great game against the Rams Where Tyler Algier ever whoever once started for fantasy is just garbage. You guys remember when I took the seemingly easiest lowest green goblin ever with Hampton 11 and a half rushing yards. Yeah, he finished seven for 18 Yeah, congrats. I mean this is you sweating I oh, I I wasn't sweating because I didn't realize it was that low. I just thought it was an easy one Mike McDaniel, they're going into the buy The Chargers Harball looks like he's going to literally pass out at the podium every week. He looks as you're like Dead as you can look like a corpse and Mike McDaniel's not surviving the buy a week Mike McDaniel will be gone and in the best part of that will be The this show will benefit because Taking over from Mike McDaniel will be none other than Adam Gaines Adam Gaines will be the new offensive coordinator. No of the charge. This is your you're calling this is my near guarantee. Oh my gosh He will be the interim offensive coordinator Mike McDaniel will be nowhere to go but up right selling tickets at the movie theater give me a bucket This is what I think will happen during the buy week. There is no you can't be absurd. I can't imagine retaining the buy week Yeah, I can't imagine retaining McDaniel through a buy week when you're oh and six and your offense hasn't been able to score 15 points or more than 15 points. It's just If Adam Gaines takes over I want to know what the checks that these guys would write to not go to the podium anymore in in Los Angeles because The questions Herbert was getting But some of these questions fine. You have a right to ask him. It's your job to inform the public where It's an entertainment product where the fans we we get to learn things But some of these questions Are the dumbest questions I've ever heard on the face of the planet You know, it's stuff like hey, hey You know Herbert Justin. What what do you what do you think you need to do to get better? Well, I got to go watch the film and I got a I got a I got a practice and I got to do this stuff and then it's What didn't you do those things the first six weeks and they didn't work? So what else do you need to do? What else how now the hell I'm dumb I just had this conversation with my wife We were watching the Thursday night game and I think the question for the coaches is like Tell me about the courage you saw of and it's like banished Give give me control of this all all sideline interviews banished. We don't need them who want Who wants those like they're always trash? They're it's the stupidest questions. I mean if you're not even real question If you want to ask the team that's winning a question at halftime cool You want to go ask the losing team but what do you think it's ridiculous? Yeah, there's just nothing It's just something they never ask a real question. It's just something to make noise They're like here's my statement. How do you react to my statement? That's not a question. No, no the crazy part is no one cares about this crap people are paid a big salary alone in and like that's a lot of money. So basically let's say you're giving up a bunch of yards of Ken Walker you go to the sideline you go Ken Walker's doing a lot of damage to you what do you do to stop it? Like it's like the dumbest trying to yeah what do you think we're doing? I our tackling scheme is wrong we prepared for Emmett I hate that part of football so much it's just a bunch of like it's just production fluff yes it isn't substantive no and that I hate it if we can just unite against like these follow-up insults that the reporters give because that's what they're not they're not follow-up questions they're follow-up insults it's a way to say something I'm trying to get them clicks yeah it's a way to say something as in the form of a question that is a pure insult to see if the person will respond with a they are who we thought they were type of thing you're ugly how do you respond? Yeah it's like what? Look everybody out there noticed how bad your coaching was why is that? Yes that's why me oh dude sometimes some some of that is really really stupid but I do think you've got to put pressure on these coaches you know like if if nothing comes Mike Mike McDaniel needs to lose his job like should has to and I don't know if that happens it won't be because of yeah the media pointing out how bad he's been it will help well it can it could like I'm fine but like react to it on your sports shows like we're doing it right now but why are we talking about it one of the worst games imaginable dropped he was a double agent five past he could have had a monster game yes he should have had a touchdown and at least 70 yards there is some footage of him or a club I have him running around wow given that AJ Brown go watch go watch Mike yeah man it's moving it like 38% speed he came back a week too early Michael I grew up that Michael Wilson four for 32 I mean Jacob are set sucks here's what's weird well he does the Cardinals won by the way yes with while scoring 18 points so no touchdown nearly identical stat lines the last two weeks for Michael Wilson so you let go of Mark and the last two weeks for the shine will four for 34 for 32 now would you've said that the Cardinals had a good wide receiver room no when Marv was there yeah I would not I think most people like the past catchers for the Cardinals were pretty Michael Wilson is good Martin Kendrick Vaughn J. Lincoln Brooks and Kendrick Born are the two three and it doesn't feel good Marv needs to step up right now well yes I stand by it also Michael Wilson needs to step up he's on pace for 165 targets awesome and not a thousand yards which is difficult to do but Jacob said is not pushing the ball down the field I know they won the game but they won the game on field goals the Cardinals have not been scoring they are they are going to be a low scoring team last week they put up 21 points but remember that 14 of those points came in absolute garb like fourth quarter garbage time they were so blown out that he's playing against nothing coverage easy peasy like it was it was false you know they play Denver this week are they gonna score a dozen points the Cardinals no the Cardinals have given up in successive weeks 31 36 36 and 45 points they just held the Rams is this the floor knew what to do they held the Rams to 16 points is this that he had the secrets McVeigh has got to be melting the Rams are dude on Instagram I if I knew your name I don't need this I could be announcing on Instagram they do the impression yeah and he's got the point of hair right up in the front yeah yeah that's focus positive on the negatives positives on the negatives yes Larry it's rough the Rams are sitting in last place behind the Arizona Cardinals in the division they're behind oh my gosh the NFL is drunk all the time we didn't even talk about the Browns winning I'm so curious Super Bowl odds like I'll bet the Rams are still oh let's let's get it yeah I mean let me guess when you get there okay let me and might guess who we think of the top three Super Bowl contenders yeah okay I mean Kansas City's a foregone conclusion that one's done Buffalo's in there Kansas City's in there what's the third team it's got to be San Francisco yeah that's got to be your top three okay so you think the top three are who I think the top three are the chiefs Buffalo and San Francisco some order it goes Minnesota in there no no no offense it goes Niners first bill second chiefs third yeah the next highest is probably Baltimore Baltimore is the next highest okay let me see like next two because the next two are important can you give me a conference I can give you a division but that's a that's a bigger hint I don't want the bigger hint I want the smaller hint uh yeah it's NFC both of them both of them packers are wonderful no no no that's why that's it can't be the pack think about what I just said oh Seattle yes and the Rams yeah yeah no that's fine yeah that makes it at two and four I can give you the team I can give you the team name and no one can score on them now we know what we got there a regular season team right now are you kidding me yeah after the Rams it goes jaguars bears patriots let me let me tell the story let me tell the story a different way Mike okay the story goes like this Patrick Mahomes Josh Alan Brock Purdy Lamar Jackson Matthew Stafford Sam Darnel Super Bowl winning Tyler Murray yeah all right that's the story I'm not supporting Kyler I'm supporting four as in that defense yeah they've allowed 64 points I'm not saying they're not good I'm just saying they're not that good yet they can prove it to me over the next five weeks also you know look they've been they've been they've had a great they've been lights out uh however yeah give me this guy they played Chicago that was when uh with okay well that was that was the weather that was the weather that was the weather get lost uh we hamper Miami New Orleans Tampa Bay Miami New Orleans it's not like they've been facing those time quarterbacks Roma Dunes they Garrett Wilson Jalen Waddle Josh Downes Josh Downes is not going to happen that's what we need to learn here it's just yeah no matter how much I we wanted to happen you took Warren away you've taken Pierce away and the highest you've finished as a wide receiver is the wide receiver 34 three weeks ago 78 47 and 38 I mean the last four weeks without those guys is on pace for 63 for 765 and zero it's Keenan Allen nine targets nine targets 11 targets and his last yeah I said took in all right I know J.R.R. are taking all right no that was that's the uh it's the sequel to taking yes I know it's a good movie took in taking two they didn't do taking two good luck I have a particular set of look you can't get every word right that if if this show is taught Fred does look good all for the Tooki I believe you mean Totten you have anything look at that here I'm still recovering from all in one yeah I need a haircut things are good things I have things shut it down shut it down these are things a man is drunk but there we go these are things that happen if you lose to the worst team in the league with your super team and all week long all week long every time I mention any possibility of losing to Jason I got blah blah blah don't worry about it blah blah and I'm like I think it's actually going to be a problem blah blah blah blah blah guess what it was a problem we were wrong no I was wrong I was right because Andy was like who do I play in this last spot I'm like I think I play for Noi okay which who I did have in and you what of one honestly you you did a lot to lose to me if we all knew that you were to lose if we knew that you were going to be playing not you Harris and and and and who else did you tie down yeah okay maybe we would have said yeah to worry but you didn't have those players in your lineup you're Kendrick Bourne and Flanoin is like yeah I can't I didn't have Flanoin I had Metcalf who I traded that morning who would have also won me the way I agree Mike we we were not wrong you were wrong I was very wrong in every way give me some tight ends that laden egg uh juwan Johnson Darren Waller and Harold Fanon uh Waller you know Philly's a tough tight end matchup and he was coming off of a trophy Fanon uh Fanon yeah in a victory they came back and they beat the Ravens that was a really low scoring game though yeah that was a gross game yeah it was it seemed like the Ravens were gonna have no problem it did and then that turned into a big problem lots of problems so yeah that's it was a crazy week once again I mean the Waller thing doesn't seem to be Waller's pretty much just a touchdown yeah you're searching around the goal line for that so he's a dangerous play no matter what yeah I think we might do well not to suggest him yeah Well, I mean, in the matchup, we said that we pretty much wouldn't play him. All right, since I can't talk anymore, apparently, and we've got waivers to prepare for tomorrow. Mr. I'll just smirk in his face off over there. Congrats on losing with me. You lost, I lost, Mike lost only the loser team won this week. That's right. waivers tomorrow. Thursday night preview on Wednesday. We'll say goodbye. I'm going to go do some vocal lessons. And we'll get back out here. Enjoy the Monday night football game. Pay attention to Evans. Pay attention to digs. We'll tweet some stuff out. See you later. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join the foot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers.