Week 6 Fantasy Football Reactions & Injuries + Early Week 7 Waiver Wire (Ep. 2274)
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The podcast outlines key injuries and player developments across multiple NFL teams, focusing on fantasy football implications. Jalen Hurts is out with a blood clot, potentially ending his season if it deepens, while Saquon Barkley is expected to return soon but with re-injury risks. Tyler Warren and Romeo Dobbs face short-term injuries, with most likely returning within a week or two. Reggie Ladd’s concussion is seen as a potential buy-low opportunity due to the team’s poor performance and injury history. Lamar Jackson is likely back this week, though past returns have shown diminished performance, prompting caution and a backup plan. The Giants’ offensive instability stems from a quarterback change, with Cam Scadaboo benched and Najee Harris getting more snaps, raising concerns about coaching decisions. On the Steelers side, Jeremy Bernard and DK Metcalf are gaining targets and showing promise, with Bernard’s blocking and performance making him a strong fantasy option. The discussion emphasizes the importance of injury awareness, cautious roster decisions, and leveraging opportunities in teams with poor health or performance. DiGiorno pizza is promoted as a convenient, high-quality option to enjoy during game nights, helping fans stay focused on fantasy strategy without distraction. The episode concludes with a reminder of the unpredictability of football, urging listeners to stay ready with plans, waivers, and backups to adapt to constant changes.
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That was a fun game to watch.
Jeremy Bernard with a huge game.
That was awesome to see.
Yeah, a lot of moving and shaking in the fantasy world as well.
We didn't get crushed with injuries today, knock on wood.
It's not over, so I am knocking on wood.
But not the worst day for injuries, so not bad.
We'll take that.
We'll take it, yeah.
Eagles fan here, so we don't need to talk about my fanhood.
But I'm good.
I got two Super Bowls.
I'm chilling.
But yeah.
So the injuries, it's funny because in my notes, this is the third Sunday recap stream
that I've done.
And the first two were just bloody Sundays.
I mean, we're talking just injury after injury.
But like you said, not a terrible injury day.
And we'll just get right into it.
So Deepak, you're here to talk about injuries.
We'll just get into it.
We see on the graphic here.
So Hurts, we got a lot of players that missed this week, like Saquon, Jalen Hurts, and Tyler
Warren.
Hurts is obviously the big news with the blood clot and the fact that he's a quarterback.
Tyler Warren tweaked his groin in practice.
On Friday, ended up missing today.
And then Romeo Dobbs left early with the shoulder.
Ladin McConkie left early with a concussion.
And obviously, Saquon's been out the last couple of weeks, including this week.
Then we got some quick hitters at the end as well.
But we'll start with the big names on the graphic.
So what do you got for Hurts?
I know he was just put on IR yesterday, whatever day it was, after he said it wasn't going
to happen.
But anyways, what do we got on Hurts and the blood clot?
Yeah.
So with Jalen Hurts' blood clot situation, they haven't released some of the key details
in order to really.
Determine the timeline.
The best case here is that the blood clot stays small and superficial, which is what
they reported initially, and that the body dissolves it over the course of about six
weeks.
Now, if that happens, you'd kind of be scanning him along the way to make sure.
However, if the clot goes deeper, that is a much more serious issue.
And that requires blood thinners.
And you can't play football on blood thinners because you could bleed, especially if you
get hit in the head.
So the idea being that this, if you do end up.
On blood thinners, usually six to 12 weeks as a standard regimen, and it usually leans
a little bit higher, closer to the 12.
So we would potentially see him end his season.
If that were the case, they just haven't released a whole lot of info and nor do they owe us
that.
But right now, obviously out four weeks and the potential here is that this could be much
longer.
Gotcha.
And we'll talk about Scott.
We'll ask you some questions about the Eagles, but just curious, Deepak.
So if it ends up being the six week one and he doesn't go on blood thinners, is there
any risk of it?
Is it happening again?
Or is it kind of like he's back and it should be good to go?
There is risk, but it's probably not that high because the, if there wasn't any explanation
for why did he get this blood clot in the first place, then I would say that risk is
probably higher, but he was cleated.
He also went on a long flight to and from London.
So that also adds to that risk.
I wouldn't anticipate this being like a career threatening or career ending type of injury.
I would anticipate him regardless of what happens this year, probably back week one
of next year.
Next year without a problem.
Gotcha.
Yeah, that makes sense.
And then for the Eagles, I mean, like the players you started, you didn't have a terrible
performance from, from Goddard.
Obviously Devante Smith got the late touchdown.
Pierce got in, but Scott, I know I saw a question that we can talk about in a little deeper,
but let's say it hurts, you know, he's out for four weeks.
What are we doing with the Eagles?
That's the big question here.
I mean, I think you're downgrading all the secondary guys, right?
Like Devante and Saquon are still going to have their roles.
Saquon when he's back, obviously, um, Goddard, maybe not.
Maybe a little bit just because, you know, uh, the, the tight ends are doing okay this
year.
So, uh, but like, I don't want anything to do with Makai Lemon at this point.
Uh, Dante being Wicks, I think can probably go.
Uh, I mean, he, I think he left and came back, but he seems to be okay.
But, um, same thing with Lemon.
I think he did the same thing.
Let's get back.
But I think those secondary guys, I'm downgrading with Tanner McKee, but McKee wasn't terrible
today in his first start.
Um, and he played a team.
I'm coming off a buy that had, uh, you know, time to prep for the Eagles as well.
So, uh, you know, maybe those guys come back if you're in a super deep league, obviously
you're not getting rid of them if there's no one on the wire for you to add.
But, uh, I, I do think in most scenarios, you could probably start looking towards a
waiver wire if you're rostering Makai Lemon and Dante being Wicks and guys like that.
Yeah.
And they have a great schedule coming up.
They got Dallas next week.
They have the commanders and the giants are next three games.
I forget the order of the last two, but, um, yeah, I mean, Eagles fans love Tanner McKee,
but the issue is a lot more than the quarterback with that team offensive line, um, play calling.
Like it's just a lot of stuff going on, so we don't need to spend a ton of time on the
Eagles, but while we're talking about them, I'll, I might as well ask about Saquon Barkley.
So he got injured the first like drive a couple of weeks ago has now missed two games.
Uh, what do we, what are we seeing hearing on Saquon Barkley?
Yeah.
So it's the data would favor him returning either this week or next with week eight being
slightly more likely, uh, the reasoning for that is that it.
It looked like at least a moderate severity type injury on the video.
It's kind of stopped him in his tracks.
So somewhat similar to what I would anticipate with like a Caleb Williams injury return here.
Usually when running backs do come back, they don't have a huge performance or efficiency
dip, but you do tend to see their usage a little bit, take about two weeks to ramp up.
So about a little bit of a dip there, uh, the re-injury risk is the real concern.
And you know, from an Eagles management standpoint, if it were me, I would consider slow playing
this with Saquon.
I would consider it a risk of re-injury and basically trying to not, uh, tank his trade
value if you were to reactivate this in season.
So I, again, this week may be a possibility, but the data was slightly favored the next.
Yeah.
I mean that running back room, Saquon, obviously Bigsby's on IR will Shipley's on IR.
The other guy, Carson steel, not a huge name, but he was getting some passing work.
He left with a shoulder injury, so, um, not a great, it's not, it's not always sunny in
Philadelphia.
I'll tell you that, but we can, but we can move on.
Um, so.
Tyler Warren, the next name on our graphic here, tweaked his groin in practice.
Didn't play today.
What, what do you have on that?
Yeah, this happened just on Friday.
So we don't have a clear indication of severity because that quick of a turnaround, most players
wouldn't play.
Uh, with that being said, he did have a groin injury in the preseason.
This is presumably a re-aggravation and re-aggravations of groin strains average about three weeks
out.
So this would most K in most cases be a multi-week injury we're looking at.
Okay.
Cause yeah.
So it's a game time decision.
They worked him out.
You think that, oh, maybe he'll be good in a week, but you're saying it's probably looking
like a couple of weeks.
Just the nature of re-aggravations is that they tend to be a little bit more severe,
severe than the original injury.
And secondly, that they, they tend to have a high re-aggravation risk going forward.
So I would think that he would miss another week.
We'll kind of see how practice reports line up for him.
But at this point with limited info, most players would miss the following week.
Yeah.
Got it.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
And then for the Colts, I mean, definitely not seeing the same Daniel Jones that we saw
last year.
I personally have been disappointed in Josh downs.
I was expecting more from him, especially with, um, with Warren now out this week.
So, um, Scott, I mean, are you, are you upping Keenan Allen in your rankings or Josh downs
or lean heavier on Johnny Taylor?
What are we doing?
If we know that, uh, Warren's going to miss a couple of weeks.
Yeah.
I mean, I think I want it to be downs too.
Uh, I wasn't the biggest downs guy coming in.
Yeah.
I mean, it's almost like everything is there for him to succeed.
Right?
No Alec Pierce.
Uh, now we have Tyler Warren down the guy that's like kind of clears the middle for
him a little bit.
So you would think that maybe we would see an uptick here, but Daniel Jones and just
this offense is not working very well right now either.
So it's all kind of Jonathan Taylor and nobody else.
So, um, Keenan Allen, maybe, you know, I'll move him up a little bit of course, because
he's their main guy at this point, but I'm not like super excited to do it.
It's almost begrudgingly, you know?
Sure.
Yeah.
Let's hope Alec Pierce is good to go as soon as he's eligible
off of IR.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
All right.
So next one, Romeo Dobbs left after, at least he scored a touchdown.
So people that I believe he scored a touchdown, people that started him, at least that they
didn't get totally cooked by, by the injury, um, left with a shoulder.
What do you have on him?
Yeah.
It looks like he fell pretty hard on the tip of his shoulder.
That's classic for an AC joint sprain.
A lot of times these get played through about a quarter of, of wide receivers do play even
the following week, usually with an injection.
Some degree of a performance hit.
And we saw this with DJ Moore.
He came back the following week, but then re aggravated it from falling on it again.
So that's the concern by rushing back, uh, with that being said, these, these tend to
be short-term injuries and the, the three-fourths of players who miss one week usually returned
within the next two.
So, uh, it would, should be a short-term injury.
Got it.
And I mean the Patriots receivers, AJ Brown, do you have more drops than catches?
Um, I think he did the Mario Douglas scored again.
So if, if Dobbs misses, I mean, you're not
bench and AJ Brown, obviously. Um, and I'm,
I mean, Douglas is probably in your lineup.
Would you agree with that, Scott?
Yeah, I think so.
I'm going to lose a league this week because I didn't have him in my lineup.
So I scored a couple touchdowns last week.
I think he's better than Romeo Dobbs anyway.
I just think they need to feed him the ball a little bit more.
And they've been doing it the last two weeks.
So, yeah, I think that is the absolute guy here.
And obviously he's going to go more to A.J. Brown pretty soon.
But the dude, he's shaking the rust off at this point.
So I know people are upset.
He'll be okay moving forward, I think.
I would say 90%.
But you watch A.J. Brown a lot.
I know you like that guy.
Yeah, I love A.J.
Yeah, I mean, first game back, got some drops.
Probably got in his head a little bit.
He'll be fine.
He even dropped the onsides kick, which was just –
At least they recovered it because that would have been tough
if the Jets got it.
And then who knows what happens.
Brutal luck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sure we'll have questions about A.J.
So we don't need to go too deep on him.
And then Ladd.
I mean, so it was the rib in week one.
Then it was the foot.
Now he's got a concussion.
The guy just can't stay healthy.
So what do you have on Ladd?
Yeah, so these concussions on average do take a little over a week.
We've seen actually three notable players, Concepcion, Sadiq, and Jamar Chase,
all come back without missing any time.
Fortunately, they have the bye coming up.
So I would expect him back.
Week eight.
And it may be good timing because those ribs from week one and two to now
should be close to healed.
That foot injury could use probably two weeks rest anyway.
So this actually may be a buy low candidate.
I don't know about staying healthy, but maybe a buy low candidate going forward.
Scott, you agree with that?
Buy low?
Yeah, I do.
I think if he was in college, it would be a red shirt season.
But at this point, especially because they're playing so bad.
I think, like Deepak said, it's a nice buy low opportunity if you can afford it, right?
If your bench is deep enough for you to add a guy like this
and you can deal from depth to add him and your wide receiver room is already good.
I think it would be a really smart move to go and get a guy like Ladd,
specifically with the entire team playing bad, right?
The whole team playing bad means they're going to probably be playing catch up in a lot of games.
And we like that garbage time for guys like Ladd.
So, you know, moving forward, it would be nice, but I would.
I would assume he's going to be out again this week, too.
Yeah.
I mean, just another loss season.
They're on a buy anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
They're on a buy.
So week eight, you would expect him back.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, good.
And then we have some quick hitters here.
Some names bigger than the others, but the two that I wanted to get your thoughts on
individually, Lamar Jackson obviously missed the last two weeks and the Ravens lost to
the Browns today.
Fumble from Derek Henry.
But what do you think?
Do you think he'll be back next week?
What do you got on Lamar?
Yeah, I think there's a pretty solid chance he plays.
This coming week, they talked about it early in the week, but then he never even logged
any practice time.
So he was ruled out.
Not super surprisingly, but the average on these mild high ankles is about two weeks.
Now, Lamar, you would expect him to come back at a pretty high level, especially wouldn't
anticipate any degree of dip in his passing game production.
The rushing.
Sometimes you'll see kind of that elusiveness decrease, and that's key to Lamar's game.
But, uh, the.
The main thing is, you know, the Ravens, if he's on the field, obviously every that affects
everybody around him too.
So I would, I would say probably this week or next, but I would lean this coming week.
Got it.
Yeah.
And Scott, so Lamar, you think, okay, when he's back, he's in your lineup, but we did
see last year, Lamar, this was, it was a hammy diff different injury, obviously, but when
he came back, he was not the same Lamar.
He had some tough performances last week.
So do you, if, do you dare not start Lamar Jackson if, if he's back next week, I'm, I'm,
I'm this season, I'm going to be prepared for it.
So I'm going to have a backup, you know, just in case.
And, uh, you know, I, if the backup has a very good matchup the week that Lamar comes
back and he doesn't, then, you know, maybe we get him in there.
So, uh, I, I'm, I'm cautiously optimistic, but we saw a lot of this last year from Lamar
as well.
And you got to start wondering if this is a pattern in his career, you know, uh, he's
run a lot, but the whole thing was for a long time, it was a guy that could, would slide
or.
Get out of bounds without getting hit.
It was a lot of runs without taking extra damage.
So, uh, slowing down a little bit, he's been being hit more specifically with a worse offensive
line.
So, um, you at least need to have a plan.
If you're rostering Lamar Jackson, even with a short bench, if you can afford to grab a
quarterback and S and sit on them as a backup, I think I'm doing that.
Yeah.
And obviously like you've had to have a plan for him the last two weeks.
So depending on what that plan was, then you could probably just keep rolling, rolling
with that.
Like if you can.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, all right, we got some, some, some quick hitters here that we'll do quickly so we can
move on.
Um, and I'll just go, I'll just go one by one and then I Deepak, you can just tell us
if you have anything, but Duncan Cade left and came back with a rib injury, DJ Moore
missed with a shoulder and the bills have a buy next week.
So you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing we'll see him, um, next or when their
next game is.
So in two weeks and then shoulder for Rashad Bateman neck injury for Donald Mooney.
Then we talked about Carson steel with, with the shoulder.
Yeah.
I think the big ones there, uh, Don Kincaid, now the ribs you're often seeing players play
through this.
Mike Evans, lad, McConkey, uh, both returned without any missed time.
Uh, you often do see a production hit that lasts about four weeks.
So Dalton Kincaid, they're coming up on their buy.
So I would anticipate him probably being out there in week eight, but you may not see full
strength with DJ Moore.
I would anticipate him being close to full strength by week eight.
Uh, he'd logged a limited practice on Friday and you would sort of there.
Four, expect his trajectory to play week seven if they had a game, but of course with the
buy week eight, uh, then regarding Bateman, a little unclear, uh, truthfully, we have
to kind of just see on the practice reports in terms of the mechanism for him and, uh,
and Carson steel didn't look good.
He was walking.
He was kind of holding the shoulder.
Uh, sometimes that can be a reflection of a stinger, but it didn't really release any
info yet.
So, uh, I think we hit the quick hits for you.
Yeah.
Let's see it.
He POC real quick.
Uh, Davante Adams going down at the end of the Rams game.
Did you catch that one?
Cause I didn't even see it.
Oh, I saw him.
I saw him hobble over to the sideline and kind of get checked, but it wasn't, uh, I'm
not sure if he had extra time, like would he have been able to come back in?
It's just, it was towards the end of the game.
So a little bit hard to say for sure on that.
Cause it was such a fresh.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Um, and then real quick and not on the, not on the, um, the doc, but just cause I'm curious
Baker Mayfield back next week.
I think so.
Uh, at least there's a very good chance and if it's not next week, it should be the week
after.
Okay.
Got it.
Cool.
All right.
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Now let's talk storylines. So we got five that Scott and I are going to talk to you
guys about, not necessarily in order of importance, just in order of how they're
written down on the doc. And we will start with the, I guess we'll start with next week's buy
weeks real quick. Buffalo, Jacksonville, Chargers, Washington, some big names on like some big
players that you're relying on missing next week. So just something to be more aware of. But number
one, we saw some wide receivers get more involved this week. And I guess the question is, are they
real? So Scott, talk about the receivers. Talk about whether we think they're real or not.
Yeah. I mean, Carnell Tate has had a couple of good games now. Seven targets in this one,
six catches, 70 yards and a score against Indianapolis. Colt secondary has been,
Colts haven't been good. Obviously there's a lot of hot seat talks about the Colts this week.
I think I'm like lukewarm on Carnell Tate. I think if someone has rage dropped him and you're
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that I would drop for Carnell Tate. I don't know that he is a buy in every single scenario though.
So, but good things from Carnell Tate, even though, I mean, Cam Ward just looks so bad and I was a buy
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job after this season, but, uh, Carnell Tate has looked good when given the opportunity.
So I do like it. I love the talent of Carnell Tate. I do not love the quarterback situation.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind selling high on, on Carnell take is, I mean, Cam Ward threw for like
102 yards or something in this game. And Tate had 70 of 70% of the past. That was the same thing in
his other career. I mean, he's a good player. He's a good player. He's a good player. He's a good
game too. It was like 212 yards and he had like 110 of them or something. Yeah. And then last,
but then sandwiched in between that, the meat of the good game sandwich was, uh, he did nothing
against, um, I mean, Texans good defense, but also not really this year. So I love Carnell Tate,
the talent and a dynasty league. Obviously you're not doing anything with him, but, uh, for redraft,
I wouldn't mind seeing what you can get for him. Not that I think he's going to be terrible every
single week, but the whole point of selling high is you're getting something good back.
Right. I would rather do that. If someone's
buying on Carnell Tate, I would rather sell him. But, um, if he's on the waiver wire,
there's probably if you have Brian Thomas, yeah. Well, bye. Uh, yeah, we'll talk about why you
would, but yeah. Yeah. And then, um, so DK Metcalf, two Steelers receivers, we're going to
talk about them in a little more detail, but we can just do a quick one here. Uh, 15 targets for
DK Metcalf, 11 for 93, Jeremy Bernard, Jeremy Bernard, Jeremy Bernard. I'm honestly not a
hundred percent sure. Okay. It's just spelled different. It's supposed to be Jeremy. Jeremy
Bernard, 12 targets, 11 receptions, 87 yards. Yeah. 12 targets, 11 receptions, 87 yards in a
touchdown. What are we thinking about the Steelers receivers? You're a Steelers fan, right? What do
you, what do you got for us? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I really liked Jeremy Bernard and I think he is
making more and more of an impact to kind of steal time away from Michael Pittman. My initial
assessment of this last week was I had him like fourth in the waiver wire, not up near the top
because yes, Michael Pittman's probably going to miss a month, maybe five weeks, six weeks. But
when he comes back, he's going to be a little bit better. He's going to be a little bit better.
When he comes back, he will be out there to block. That was kind of my initial assessment.
Jeremy Bernard blocks pretty well, right? Started his, uh, pop Warner as a offensive lineman. So
the dude knows how to block. Um, and even though he doesn't have the same type of frame as Michael
Pittman, but he's been making plays out there. So I think he's going to have sustained success
and DK Metcalf. It's just nice to see him getting targets, getting more involved and winning in some
contested situations. Uh, him and parish had a nice battle parish one. Most of it, I would say
the first three quarters.
And that last quarter in overtime, it was DK Metcalf kind of bodying him. So, uh, just nice
to see the Steelers offense getting in more of a rhythm. And I think both these guys are viable.
Yeah. I've never been a huge DK Metcalf guy, but the utilization has been fantastic for him all
year. It hasn't always worked out, but you kind of get that with somebody like him, a big play guy,
but I love Jeremy Bernard, the way Aaron Rogers talked about him. It's for me, it's if Aaron
Rogers trusts you, you're going to get targets. And for whatever reason, he did not like Michael
Pittman did not like him. And Roman Wilson just went on the IR. He did love Roman Wilson, but
someone, uh, got stuck on the IR. I think the same day Jalen did. So, uh, he's going to be out
for at least four. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll talk about them in a little more detail, but just did want to
mention them. And then Omar Cooper jr. Six, uh, seven targets, six receptions, 103 yards and a
touchdown first game back from IR. So you, you'd love to see that after a long stint off. Is it
real? What do you think? I think it can be. And I always was kind of on the Omar Cooper side over
Adonai Mitchell. Now I had dropped Omar Cooper and a couple of my leagues after Adonai Mitchell went
weeks here, but then he had the finger injury, the broken finger. And we didn't really get a lot
of good information on how long he was going to miss. And then they said he had surgery. Cause I
was kind of expecting him back this week. So I ended up dropping Adonai in one league and with
Omar Cooper looking this good and they already have Garrett Wilson and, uh, Brees hall is still
going to come back at some point. There's a lot of moving pieces there. So, uh, I'm, I think I'm
rather have the three guys above him on this list. Sure. I think if you're in a deeper league or if
you have, you know, just an, uh, an empty spot, I think Omar Cooper is absolutely a guy we can add
and, and might be able to, you know, if he keeps performing like this, we'll be able to count on
him. I don't think it's going to be like this every week, but a nice performance from the rookie.
Yeah. You like to see that from a rookie. And what we know about rookies is they always get
better the second half of the year. The biggest issue for me is that Jets offense,
they just play so slow. They're going to have games or they don't do anything. And then you're
going to have to play so slow. And then you're
where Garrett Wilson gets 15 targets and it's just not. And there's, so yeah, I'm not, I'm not
that I disagree with you. I just think that, um, just to, to maybe be a little bit more cautious.
Um, but we can move on the next one. We got some tight end. So who's back of the week. We got some
tight ends that might be back Kyle pits, three touchdowns, the last two weeks, Loveland and
Caleb Williams first start almost had a second touchdown, but he had a touchdown 65 yards,
six receptions. Do you think that these guys are back? Yeah, I do. I mean, Loveland, I think was
you know, it's easy to be mad at Loveland. You spent such a high pick on him and, uh, he was so
miserable. And it was one of those things where I even had him low in my rankings for this week
because it was like, all right, well, let's see it. I'm tired of having you in my top 12 and I'm
not doing anything. So I think I had him at like 14 or 15, but he got Caleb Williams back and boy,
did Caleb look pretty good. Right. So, uh, right back there and, uh, throwing the ball to Loveland.
So I think he's back. And then Kyle pits usage.
Really improved this week. That was the big thing because it was like a lot of Charlie
Warner and we're seeing him less and less specifically on 11 personnel. But this week
he played a lot last week, um, against Baltimore. He had five catches for 42 in the score and then
five or 16, two scores this week. So, uh, yeah, I'm, or that was pits. I'm sorry. Uh, Loveland
today, six for 65 in the score, like you said, just barely missed the second one. So yeah, I mean,
I think I'm back in now that Caleb is back and that offense is humming a little bit. Yeah, I agree
with you on, on, on both counts. The thing with pits is you just, you forgive the first two weeks
of the year. Like Drake London didn't do anything. The Cooper rush starts. We don't, we don't talk
about the Cooper rush starts. So with Pennix, it's, it's definitely been better. Um, but next
one we can talk about is the giants and in crazy game for the giants, Cam Scadaboo benched. He gave
you a nice big goose. If you started him, then we saw Jameis Winston get benched for JJ McCarthy,
who proceeded to throw for 243 yards in like 11 minutes of game time.
He threw a pick to start too. It was like, Oh God, what are we doing? Yeah. And it's funny
because Jameis is normally the one that does that. He comes in in the fourth quarter and starts
bombing away. So there was a little bit of a freaky Friday situation, but we saw huge performances
from not huge. We saw, uh, yeah, we can say huge, big performances from Malik neighbors and Isaiah
likely, but then the other, the downside of this is the giants running back snaps 14, Devin single
30, 13, Tyrone Tracy, 11 for Najee Harris and six for Cam Scadaboo.
I don't even know where to begin with Harbaugh after two. Yeah. That like, it wasn't, it wasn't
our plan to, to, it wasn't by design. And then he said, we were down a bunch of points. So we have
our third down guys in there. And then they, you know, they interviewed Cam and he was like,
I'm being punished for what I did last week. It's completely understandable. And, uh, you know,
I just want to be ready when my name's called by coach again. And that was, that's the correct
answer. That's the only answer you can give and still, you know, stay in favor with a quarterback
as well. So I don't know how this is going to work out. Like we got word, uh, about, you know,
30 minutes before kickoff that Najee Harris was going to be way more involved and it was going
to be at the expense of Cam Scadaboo, which makes sense, right? After the big fumble that you were
on a game winning drive and then, you know, probably should have lost, but then Jane Daniel
screwed that up. So, uh, I, I understand like the punishment aspect of this, but I think it is at
the detriment of your team when you're bending.
Benching in really you're not, but you are, you gave him six snaps. Like when you're benching the
best player in the backfield, I just think that's stupid. Like, yes, he fumbled. It was a big time
fumble is a huge mistake, but you got to let the guy pick it up and move on from that. So yeah. Um,
Harbaugh being, uh, uh, a hardo about this is not going to be great in the long run. I do wonder
which quarterback starts next week though, as well. Uh, would you lean towards JJ McCarthy?
Marthie or Jameis here?
I feel like you got to go JJ,
but then I feel like we're going to get, you know.
13 completions on 27 attempts for 119 yards if he starts next week but i don't know how you i mean
i don't know i don't know how you go back to jamis after and i mean mccarthy i've never been
after like i thought he's gonna be good then he missed his rookie year then he was terrible then
i was like then i i was out and i didn't think he had in him what he did today um but a lot of
times you see like weird garbage time stuff happen in the fourth quarter that doesn't necessarily
jamis has made his career in garbage time um joey bursette was kind of like last year with so much
garbage time garbage time work that it doesn't in like when teams up big they play defense
different differently and then sometimes they can't so i don't know i i think you start jj
but i would definitely be cautious with my with my job at houston at houston next week so
and their defense has been terrible right supposed to be good uh it's been awful this year so yeah
and they're coming back i know it makes no sense and they're coming back from london too yeah so
yeah i don't know i mean you're not obviously not benching malik or isaiah likely but i'm definitely
expecting those type of performances from them next week which you've gotten i mean likely it's
been awesome this year but anyways we can move on so we hinted at this aaron rogers at 41 42 years
young playing the best football that he's played since he tore his achilles his last four weeks
22.6 21.96 so basically 22 exactly 22 and 16 points now the 16 is not great but three straight
20 point performances we talked about the receivers for the steelers performing well
you know this offense we thought was going to be gross i thought was going to be gross heading
into the year but they've been good yeah you take the last four weeks and i think uh if you just
average that out he'd be like fourth among quarterbacks right behind alan purdy and golf
that's it at this point just ahead of joe burrow as well so that's kind of crazy uh i didn't expect
this to work like this but um you know the offense has been working for the steelers specifically
after last week right it was i i told you about it i didn't expect it to work like this but
boy seth who is also a steelers fan uh from pennsylvania and he said um or he was texting
like hey at least the steelers won this was after my longhorns lost to oklahoma of course yeah and
i said uh i said yeah it was weird to win a game without like four turnovers and six sacks and all
of that like the steelers typically do just to win with an offensive game so uh aaron rogers is
humming right now and if you've had problems a quarterback he might be your answer at this point
so um you know uh i i think it's going to be a great game and i think it's going to be a great game
i think uh i think he's absolutely viable like better than like tyler shuck who's apparently
playing with a broken hand yeah so uh you know that's kind of weird he's been better than patrick
bahomes obviously jalen hertz is out justin herbert's been a mess so is bo nicks right so
there's a lot of down here in the quarterback market and aaron rogers is one of the few guys
moving up it seems like yeah next week we got josh allen on by trevor lawrence on by jayden
daniels on by also justin herbert but hopefully nobody's starting him anymore so uh yeah
i mean you can definitely stream i don't know the matchup next week uh but you could definitely
stream and rogers assuming he's not playing like i don't know the whatever the worst whatever the
worst defensive matchup would be um saints in paris this week oh that's right that's right it's the
parrot yeah the paris game um if they keep okay yeah you can start them if you got a qb on bar
week or you got a jalen hertz injury and you're you're trying to figure it out um and then the
last one we have here this was the london game so let's not forget about it huge day for travis
hunter i mean he has a nine offensive snaps but they were meaningful offensive snaps but the flip
side of that is no no btj i don't he didn't play at all in the second half he needs to have the
marv treatment sent to whoever his college quarterback is um and see if he can he can
um but yeah i mean are we starting travis hunter um i'm and by the way you'd be sending him to
cleveland uh for shador but uh but uh i do think that uh i don't think that we can start travis
nine snaps right like he got you
in it and i had to go look it up too because uh usually i follow uh uh nate yankee who does on pff
he does like all the snap breakdowns and everything but because hunter plays on defense he doesn't
show up on the wide receiver one so i had to go hunt it down through uh the other way so uh and i
saw it was nine snaps on uh offense and 62 on defense he's still primarily uh defensive player
but if they are going to start using him i think travis hunter is the best wide receiver on the
parker washington if they moved him to that side this is a heisman winner right incredible athlete
unbelievable but they need him more in the secondary so i think he's going to stay mainly
playing on defense he'll have a couple nice plays and big games on the offensive side but with nine
snaps that just guarantees you close to nothing so it's just really hard to uh to pick him up and
then also be willing to start him so if you you have a really deep bench and you want to add him
just to see if he's going to be able to start him so i think he's going to be able to start him
if he starts to you know tick up those offensive snaps then i'm all for that but if you're in a
normal league with a normal bench i think you probably let somebody else uh use their fab on
him yeah i think you put in a zero dollar claim and then you try to trade him that's that's my
plan see if somebody just wants the big name um but all right we we can move on the next segment
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panic meter so like i said get those names in the chat and we will give you our uh panic on those
players one it means we're not panicking at all 10 it means we're in full-blown panic mode and
while you guys are doing that um i put some in the chat here or in our in our notes here just to get
us started cam scottaboo we just talked about him one to ten what's your
panic meter on cam i how could it be lower than like an eight and a half or a nine right like he
had six snaps today and didn't have a touch so uh i mean unless we hear different from the coaching
staff specifically like we are going to get cam scottaboo more involved he has to stay on your
bench i wouldn't recommend dropping him yet because he's still the best running back by a lot
on the giants right like naji is older hasn't been that good and is coming off an injury uh tyrone
tracy scored the touchdown here i know but i still don't trust him and i don't know why single terry
was active this week right it was because cam scottaboo fumbled i think they're making a big
production out of uh nothing which is dumb but uh i i expect him to be back involved but until i
see it it's really hard to start him so yeah and they play the texans this week they should be
using him but i don't know if they will i am totally in total agreement that it's bad coaching
you
i mean like you see the best coaches go back to their go back to their guys and put faith in them
like you think he knows that he shouldn't fumble but anyways that's not what we're talking about
so i'm with you i'll go nine on uh cam scottaboo you can't drop him probably can't trade him
can't start him so you just wait it out at this point but uh we got from trizzo sam
two saints players olave and in juan johnson shuck has not been tearing it up like he has
the past couple or the beginning of the week or sorry beginning of the year he has not the past
couple weeks obviously some tough matchups like the vikings a couple weeks ago he's got
the broken hand he's got an offensive line injury that i think is probably the most important of all
of that so anyways what is your what is your panic meter on olave and juan yeah i think it's probably
like a six on on these guys like there's nothing you can really do you're not gonna bench olave
you're still gonna start him next week and uh roll with them i would say that if the terrible play
continues from shuck they'll probably go to rattler i guess uh we'll see that's not uh great but crystal
olave is uh fairly qb proof not completely i don't know that anyone is completely but
fairly qb proof and uh i think that he'll be okay juan johnson i would be more concerned i would say
that probably the same uh you know ballpark i would be more concerned maybe i'm less concerned
because i feel like there's tight ends on the wire that you can add um and i don't think if you
are starting juan johnson you've probably never really been married to him so uh less for juan
just because of the nature of where he is a little more panicky on olave but i do think it'll get
straightened out fairly quickly and i think the whole offense will be better when that gen comes
back agreed yeah agree with you i'm a little bit lower on the panic i think that they'll be fine i
think they play so fast that they're gonna have games where they're just running up and down the
field so i'm like probably a three on olave a little bit higher on juan johnson because i mean
at this point he's like 30 years old it's not like there's that the upside there and i think it might
have just been a hot touchdown start for him that it's kind of just gonna fade um but we can we can
go um here to sir sir dinesh what do i do with aj brown so panic meter one to ten on aj we kind of
talked about it but what do you got um i'm i'm not panicking about him i think we talked about
this a little bit like knocking the rust off the hands are the hands are not great right like uh
obviously that's not a good thing but unless you start to get benched like cam scataboo for the
mistakes that you're making it doesn't really matter that much to us so uh you know i do i
I do think that AJ Brown is going to be fine.
and you're just gonna leave him in your starting lineup i totally agree yeah not one i'm not
concerned about aj brown at all i love the targets i'll probably take him in a bet next week but um
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the chat we got about 10 minutes before sunday night football starts so um like i said yeah
get your questions in the chat we'll go through as many as we can before we have to get on out of
here and we'll just go through it so um we talked about scataboo so we can do this one one quickly
mr aaron is yeah great name um is scataboo cooked yes or no
i don't think he's cooked uh like like we talked about before i still think he is the best running
back on the giants and i think at some point seeing how this run game was today they are going
to have to put him back in so not panicking not dropping i don't think he's cooked yet
agreed we can move on from michael sullivan uh do you sell high on davante smith and full
transparency i didn't watch that game um what do you think you sell high on davante i don't know
that you can sell high on davante smith right now right like he's still performing well so if
someone you know if you're in a reuben boob league and you can trade him as someone that doesn't pay
as much attention as you then great but i think most people are paying attention most people
understand that jalen is gone i don't know that this hurts him that much jalen wasn't great at
passing the ball anyway so uh i think i'm okay with holding on uh to davante smith and seeing
what he does with tanner mckee i think you send some offers like the worst people say is no that's
the cut that's like how how i like to kind of go about things i don't necessarily think like i've
always been like i don't think i like jalen hurts but i don't necessarily think that going from him
to to tanner mckee is a huge downgrade for davante smith because what you like about jalen is a lot
other than being a dropback passer which is what tanner mckee is so um their offensive line and
dealing with pressure is is a bigger issue than the quarterback so he had a lot of targets today
he scored the touchdown he's got great matchups coming up so if you can get a haul for him then
sure but i'm not trying to sell him um and we can move on axel gonzalez do you think milton will
start a game this year bazooka joe i don't think i would put it completely out of the realm of
possibilities specifically if jalen does have to miss the entire year as deepak kind of alluded to
blood clots and all that stuff being a 6 to 12 week timeline with most taking more closer to 12
than 6 so i wouldn't completely rule it out but i think mckee's
been there for a long time he knows this offense i would expect mckee to start most of the games
unless he's just looking really terrible yeah barring injury i don't think that we're going to
see milton i i mean he's fun he's not that great of a quarterback unfortunately that's the problem
with he can throw it 900 yards but i don't necessarily i mean we haven't seen him so maybe
we don't know but in the limited time we have it hasn't been great so i would say barring injury
i would i would guess no and i don't think he's worth picking up and stashing or anything like
that um from j red 97
99 my horrible running backs in ppr are irving pollard and ramondre stevenson do i pick up roshan
johnson no uh like i think common on guys back next week so i don't think i would pick up roshan
had nice usage today so i'm not going to say it's completely a no if you're in a super deep league
then uh maybe i i look at throwing a couple bucks on roshan and just seeing if i can get him
but i think for the most part i don't i don't see you starting him over any of the guys that
you listed so uh i'm probably going to leave him on the wire for someone else that yeah i would
if you have a spot i think he's probably worth picking up in the off chance that monunga doesn't
play i also think that he plays maybe we could have asked deepak that but maybe maybe you start
him over ramondre but probably not but like i said he's he's at least worth picking up in case
that monunga misses again because toe injuries can be can be a little weird from jp tay bogman
what is going on with the rams they barely score
32nd yeah that green was crazy they they i mean losing to the cardinals is wild uh yeah it really
is so what's going on with the rams i i think the rams are going to be okay but obviously uh it has
not looked good yet this year and um kyron has still been good like most of the pieces have
still been good i think this was like the first down game for puka where he played the full game
uh davante getting hurt at the end of the game we're gonna have to see what happens there
but
blake corm has been in and out he's been in the last two weeks he was out before that
so i i think they're gonna be okay you know this was a division rivalry game so you know these
typically play a little bit closer and i think i think they made some coaching mistakes right it's
tough to lose to six field goals that's not something that typically happens so uh i think
they'll be okay moving forward but it's less and less of a guarantee every single week um
matthew stafford matthew stafford isn't even looking crazy old yet i think they're going to be
okay moving forward but he is looking like he's not moving very well so uh i think it'll get better
um you know beyond this week but that was a really terrible performance and you are right to be a
little concerned for sure yeah i mean from like a fanhood perspective for sure from a fantasy
perspective you're right i mean like you're happy with with the players on the rams they're just also
two and four so it's like yeah you know i don't know where i don't know what you can really do
other than you're obviously playing those guys and you just hope that they the team themselves gets
better um corn's the only guy that waivers everybody else you're rolling for sure yeah
fair yeah fair so funny awesome person 90 should add humble in there as well um we talked about
him so we don't have to go super long here but thoughts on davante without jalen should i i'm
guessing trade him taking advantage of from his good fantasy performance i mean if you can trade
him uh i i get it but uh i i think like we said before tanner mckee might i i don't think much
changes so i'm i'm gonna roll with davante smith if i'm rostering him yeah see if you
can like package him for like him plus another player for an upgrade see if like maybe somebody
had a down week this week um but yeah other than that you're not you're not i don't think you're
getting a hall for him anyway so i'm kind of with you jeremy padden 58 57 do i trade or bench lad
mcconkey or amari and hampton well this week you're lucky you don't have to play them you
don't have to make that decision but moving forward do you trade or bench lad mcconkey
and amari and hampton i don't trade uh lad i don't think you can trade amari
and hampton but if you can i would see what type of offers you get because they've been splitting
up this backfield three different ways i think mitchell was the guy out of the loop this week
and hampton has always kind of been there but he hasn't looked good right videl has looked better
than him for the most part so uh i don't think there's much you can do with hampton i don't think
there's a lot of guys that i would cut him for specifically this week um and lad uh you know
he should be back the next week and like deepak said
if he does have to miss another week it's probably good to rest these other injuries that he's had but
they're on a buy so he should be back uh in week eight so we should be fine with him yeah i don't
know what you could get for them so you probably just have to i mean this week obviously you're
not playing but you probably just have to hold um but so we got two questions from will freaking
power but this one i thought was a little bit better because it's a little more like an easier
yes or no um question to answer would you trade a buka or burden straight up for chase brown this
is a pretty clear yes for him and i think it's a pretty clear yes for him and i think it's a pretty
clear yes for me uh do you disagree yeah not at all no and i don't i don't love what's happening
with chase brown in the backfield and then giving us some ajp ryan more but you know these are wide
receiver two to threes like flex guys and chase brown has a chance to be a game changer for you
so if you can do those trades i'd absolutely do them yeah and it's you know it's we've seen two
straight years heading into this year chase brown's being significantly better the second
half of the year than the first half it happens a lot with the bangles offense but i agree with
you the utilization is what's this is what's the scary part with chase brown the first half of the
round like you could explain away the rough start the last two years splitting time with zach miles
two years ago last year it was um jake browning was the quarterback so either way i am doing either
i would i'm doing out of the one of those trades and if if you had to choose which receiver like
who do you like better between a buka or burden meaning i like a buka better oh interesting okay
i i would say i would say burden um but see whoever the chase brown manager likes better
either one of those we're both good with yeah i'd be good trading either one of them yeah yeah
um all right this will be the last question because
then you guys got to watch Sunday night football but i thought this was a good one uh from saquon
ftw what do we think about warren now that dowdle is back and i thought about adding this sorry to
interrupt you i thought about adding this to the when we talked about the steelers um but yeah so
yeah what do you think i think warren is still the guy and specifically i think the reason i think
he's going to be the guy is what we saw in overtime right was at the end they just they they used him
pretty much was he had the he took the ball he bled the
clock led the steelers down the field rogers is looking to dump it off to him all the time
because he's looking for those short routes so he doesn't get hit
So I think it's still Warren, but Dowdell is going to eat in, right?
And might be annoying occasionally near the goal line as well.
So this gets more complicated than it was,
but I still think Jalen is the guy in Pittsburgh.
Yeah, I agree with you.
And he was never going to continue to play 90% of the snaps.
That was just kind of like, hey,
we're just going to run you into the ground until Dowdell comes back.
It was always going to be more of a split, but Warren's awesome.
Rodgers likes him.
Dowdell has not looked good even before the toe injury.
Looked good today.
Yeah, he did.
Better today.
Better today.
Yeah.
A couple big rip runs.
So he looked better, but I was kind of hoping he was going to Dowdell,
you know,
he was going to do to Dowdell what Dowdell did to Chuba last year,
because I have a lot of shares of Jalen Warren,
but we didn't get that lucky.
No, no, we didn't.
But cool.
All right.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Jalen Hurts is sidelined due to a blood clot, with potential for a 6–12 week recovery; a deeper clot could end his season.
Saquon Barkley is expected to return next week or week eight, though there’s concern about re-injury and a potential dip in performance.
Tyler Warren tweaked his groin in practice and is likely out for at least one week, with a high risk of re-aggravation.
Romeo Dobbs left with a shoulder injury, likely a short-term issue, with most players returning within two weeks.
Reggie Ladd has a concussion and is expected back in week eight, seen as a buy-low opportunity due to team struggles and injury history.
Lamar Jackson is likely to return this week, though past returns have shown performance decline; a backup is recommended.
The Giants’ offensive game is disrupted by a quarterback change, with Cam Scadaboo benched and Najee Harris receiving more snaps, raising concerns about coaching decisions.
The Steelers’ wide receivers, especially Jeremy Bernard and DK Metcalf, are gaining targets and showing promise, with Bernard’s blocking and performance making him a viable option.
Summary:
The podcast outlines key injuries and player developments across multiple NFL teams, focusing on fantasy football implications. Jalen Hurts is out with a blood clot, potentially ending his season if it deepens, while Saquon Barkley is expected to return soon but with re-injury risks. Tyler Warren and Romeo Dobbs face short-term injuries, with most likely returning within a week or two.
Reggie Ladd’s concussion is seen as a potential buy-low opportunity due to the team’s poor performance and injury history. Lamar Jackson is likely back this week, though past returns have shown diminished performance, prompting caution and a backup plan. The Giants’ offensive instability stems from a quarterback change, with Cam Scadaboo benched and Najee Harris getting more snaps, raising concerns about coaching decisions.
On the Steelers side, Jeremy Bernard and DK Metcalf are gaining targets and showing promise, with Bernard’s blocking and performance making him a strong fantasy option. The discussion emphasizes the importance of injury awareness, cautious roster decisions, and leveraging opportunities in teams with poor health or performance. DiGiorno pizza is promoted as a convenient, high-quality option to enjoy during game nights, helping fans stay focused on fantasy strategy without distraction.
The episode concludes with a reminder of the unpredictability of football, urging listeners to stay ready with plans, waivers, and backups to adapt to constant changes.
FAQs
Jalen Hurts is currently on injured reserve after a blood clot incident. The medical details are not fully released, but the best-case scenario is a small, superficial clot that dissolves over six weeks. If it goes deeper, blood thinners would be required, potentially ending his season. He is expected to return in Week 1 of next year.
Saquon Barkley is expected to return either this week or next, with next week slightly more likely due to a moderate severity injury. There is a re-injury risk, especially with his history of injuries, so teams are advised to consider a cautious return and possibly slow his return to avoid damaging his trade value.
Tyler Warren tweaked his groin in practice and is expected to miss at least one week. This is likely a re-aggravation of a prior injury, which tends to be more severe and has a higher re-injury risk. Most players with such injuries miss two weeks, and he is expected to return in the following week.
Romeo Dobbs is expected to return in the next week after a shoulder injury, likely with a performance hit. While many players return from such injuries, there's a risk of re-aggravation, especially if he falls again. His return is considered short-term, with most players returning within two weeks.
There is a strong chance Lamar Jackson will play next week, as his injury is mild and typically resolves in two weeks. However, his return may not be as effective as before, with potential drops in rushing performance. Fans and analysts are cautious, recommending a backup plan in case his performance falters.
Reggie Ragland is expected to return in Week 8 due to the typical one-week recovery time for concussions. With the team having a bye, this timing is favorable. His return may be a buy-low opportunity, especially if the team is playing poorly and needs depth.
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