On today's episode of The Ring or Fantasy Football Show, all the players you need to add entering week five, a grizzly bear-related job posting and also I reveal my song that I am embarrassed to play in front of other people. All that and more after the commercial. This episode is presented by Verizon. Let me tell you all about Verizon's new simplicity plan. You get one plan, one price, just $30 a line per month, even for a single line. So while everyone is running four trade analyzers before offering a backup tight end, Verizon said one plan, one price. Sometimes the simplest move is the best one, like the simplicity plan. Head to Verizon.com today. For new customers who switch to Verizon, $30 per line includes auto pay and switch discount. Double taxes, fees and terms apply. Welcome to The Ring or Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hepp. I'm joined by Danny King, Craig Moralbeck, and we are going over all the players. You must add entering week five, after week four, we're going to go through each position, give our number one player from that position and if we, well, we're probably going to no matter what we agree on, we're going to do a trivia tie breaker just to see what order we get to pick those players in so we can help you decide who to add. It is the beginning of buy weeks, and it's just two teams. It's the Panthers and the Chase. But it's the beginning of buys and injuries, and now it's like we're maybe getting into the place where you might actually need to just pick someone up off waivers and add them to your lineup. Especially if you have like, "Sake one, Barclay," or someone, are we doing two carries sake one now, Craig? Is that where we're going? "Sake one," I think, is the nickname. Seven yards sake one. So we're going to go through all the positions, trivia, we have some funny meals at the end. And again, the continuation of "Roll Your Windows Up" songs, is that what we're calling this? "Songs Your Embarrassed You Love." "Songs Your Embarrassed You Love." If you were to red light, would you roll the windows up to listen to the song? Hi, if it's you have one ready for that, because I think it's your turn, bud. Oh, I do. Oh, I have one. Okay. Well, Danny Kelly, running back, seven yards sake one has gone down. We don't currently have an update. We're recording this Monday before Monday in football. But I think safe to presume, "Sake one will miss at least one week." So with that said, who's your number one running back to add after week five? Leading the witness, your honor. Kind of a weird week, not a great week for running backs, I would say. I want to say real quick, Manuel Wilson for the Seahawks, he's currently 48% rostered on Yahoo. Do you guys want to include him? Or just keep him out of this conversation. Just mention him at the top here. I think if Manuel Wilson's available in your league, he would come before all of the players we're about to talk about. Hey, everyone. So, after we recorded this, it came out that tank pigs be the Eagles backup running back to Seahawks Barclay needs core muscle surgery and is going on injured reserve for at least six weeks. So, as of now, we still don't know how long Seahawks Barclay is out, but we assume Seahawks going to miss at least one week if not multiple. So our number one guy now with this information would be Will Shipley, who is the running back for the Eagles, and basically the Eagles have some other running backs, but realistically, every week that's Seahawks and take Bigs B are both out, Will Shipley is going to be the lead running back for the Philadelphia Eagles. And we know that that's kind of boring because the Eagles are going three and out on like 45% of their drives and also the Eagles are just driving us nuts watching them every week. And so we know that's a little underwhelming, but with the tank pigs we news, we definitely think Will Shipley would be the number one running back off waivers this week and any week that both those guys are out. But we didn't know that at the time. So Will Shipley's the number one running back we would take and then take that with the greatest soul as you listen to the rest of this conversation. And now you can come back in back to the show just in time to hear Craig endorse a player on the chargers 24 hours after Craig said the chargers were dead to him. So enjoy the rest of the episode. I mean, I don't know, and this is crazy to say because he's a charger, but keep Mitchell I feel like it's just the most supposed to player on this team. Yeah, he had 50 literally just burned the entire chargers team. So all we did Sunday is talk about how annoying it was to watch the chargers and Eagles. And we wake up Monday morning. We're like, who should we get? Probably chargers. Chargers. Yeah, we're picking chargers. Eagles. Yeah. I would pray that Emmanuel Wilson is there. But I would really think about Keaton Mitchell 15 touches last week, 11 the week before. Yeah. He's just like getting more dynamic plays and he's like ripping off bigger plays for the chargers. He's going to be the starter. Mike Mitchell will be the starter soon for the chargers. Maybe as soon as this week, he'll just take in the line share of the work, which is a bull prediction. He will be the starter. Well, it depends. He defends the fact that I think Hampton and Kamani Videll are going to get it. So I guess it's like maybe he'll get 45% of the backfield and that'll be the most, but it'll still be pretty depressing. Maybe the chargers keep getting blown out so much that he's just going to, you know, get a bunch of done. Honestly, but I think he makes more sense for Mike McDaniel. I don't know. He'll say I'm a long Mike McDaniel even has that job at this point. I mean, I mean, I don't the charges suck. And so part of me is like get out of the chargers business, but if you really need someone for this week, like, well, it's funny because the Eagles offense is like worse than the chargers, isn't it? Well, they're both terrible. I mean, they're both reshance later is has a high ankle sprain. So then you have, you know what I mean, reshance later, it right tackles out for the chargers. So they spell suck. But the difference to me is Mitchell's probably going to be the bad starting, running back for a shitty offense for the rest of the season. So isn't that thrilling? If you need them. God. It's, it's really brutal out there. I think I would take key Mitchell over, well, simply to be honest. Is the real answer just go and get as something as insane as the sounds as like Tyler Algier for the Cardinals, maybe like a more sane thing to do. He's going to be like the passing down guy for the Cardinals because Jeremiah loves saying it's the, uh, what going to be the longest year of his life. I kind of feel like on principle, we have to pivot here. Yeah. It's just so sad. No goals. No chargers. Tyler Algier. The card is applying Detroit next week. Let's just pivot. Let's pivot. Let's do Tyler Algier. Let's be adults. We're likely to be in the red zone next week. Arizona by, uh, 1000 Arizona might have more red zone trips than the Eagles and chargers combined. The chart. The Eagles 45% of the Eagles drives are going three now. Yeah. Which I think is bad seven year. I'd say one three now. Eagles. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Tyler Algier. Tyler Algier. Got there. I do. I just got more and sadder and sadder as we had that conversation. So yes. I think switching Algier's the right move. For us next August when we're talking about anything other than taking five running backs in the first eight rounds. Yeah. Okay. Well, I think it's time. Craig. Yeah. I think it's time too. It's time for the Tyler Algier. Showdown time. Bang it. Oh. Royalty free Gong. No one can sue us over the Gong. That's ours. This one's from Beebone. Beebone. Breakfast was Dunkin' Donuts, extra-large coffee with cream and pumpkin flavoring and a hard-boiled egg. Oh. Okay. All right. So Beebone writes because you said last one. You don't see one egg too often as a breakfast. Why single egg? Yeah. Very disciplined. Sometimes when I go to the office in LA, I eat just, they have the hard-boiled eggs in there sometimes I'll just eat one for breakfast. I know. I can't believe you do that. It's kind of gross, but also. I really have the hard-boiled eggs. I'm like, I've read somewhere that you should eat protein for breakfast because it jumps starts your body. I'm like, all right. I guess I'm eating this egg. They have hard-boiled eggs in the fridge at the office. Yeah. Little packed with hard-boiled eggs. Just Craig sees me. He's just like, ah. There's just a, I mean, I love eggs, but an office hard-boiled egg out of the fridge out of it. Yeah. That's not necessarily an elite type of deal, but yeah. Anyway. Well. Little sad. Maybe. So we were talking about Groundhog Day on Sunday's episode, and you guys were singing the song. And the song is, one, I got you, babe, by-- Sony. Yeah. Sony and share. At this point, there were probably many listeners who don't even know about that. Yeah. I think I thought it was pronounced Sony. It's crazy that you did that. You guys keep gaslighting our listeners with me. It's fine. I'm sick of it. Look, spell it like with a U. There's a, whatever. We don't need to do this again. No, you are. You're wrong. You're doing that. It's not bunny and Clyde. Stop defending it. Sony makes no sense. So when is not, it's not Sony. That makes no sense. Look, I was sick. And it stuck, man. I don't know what to say. Anyway. The trivia question from B-Bone here is because we were talking about Groundhog Day. How many distinct days did Bill Murray relive that were actually shown on screen in the movie Groundhog Day? Excellent question. So it's an amazing question. What days that they're referencing, it's not the implied days of how long he's there. How many days did we actually watch on screen in the movie Groundhog Day? Because the implication is that he's there for months, right? Even longer, maybe. He learns how to play piano. Yeah. Six months or something, but yeah, they don't obviously don't show, you know, 180. He references like, how would he X amount of times he's like, ended it, essentially. Like at some point. That's often the clip. Try to think of all the different montages here because there's, it's so great how he just, they'll even do the thing where it's like he messes up one thing, he starts over. It's like edge of tomorrow. Yeah. That premise always works. Like Palm Springs was a good, they recently did amazing. Oh, great call. Yeah. Palm Springs was great. All right. So let's see here. This is the amount of times they're referencing in the movie. Yeah. Like the amount of times we saw him wake up, basically. I guess it doesn't have to be that, but it's like the amount of times you know it's a new day.
Yeah, yeah, all right you guys ready. Yeah, all right three two one 65 only 18 shit Craig you said 18 decays at 65 I said 20 fuck The answer is So the implied number of how long is there is 12,395 days? No, not shown that's like how long is it it's implied how many years is that? Divided by a long time. Oh wow, I did not know that I think 33 years Oh My head he was there for like six months. Wow the days they talk about or mention there's 414 days They mentioned but days shown on the screen is 38. Yeah So who wins that I feel like I'm 20 I'm still kind of far away fuck. Yeah, so I have this one's I I'll take Tyler I'll cheer and you guys just go ahead and take keep Mitchell good luck really that's it I Mean it's you know, you said oh no you said 65 65. I know, but like they do so many a little quick You know like him slamming the the clock or whatever. I don't know I thought I'd been more than that, but anyway, I'll take keep Mitchell So D.K. You can have a wheelchair and again kit Mitchell is like we'll probably have a role all season even though He's probably injury prone and I don't know the charges for Sean Slater's hurt by the way Things are just not going great. He was on Twitter. You weren't listening what we said that. I was trying to read my the choices. I was going to make guys No options here. It's like Austin Echlor. We're not doing that Austin Echlor's the guy that we're like don't add him. He's old and Tora's Achilles and just got there and then he will just be good the rest of the season. I think you can add him Really you could add you yeah, sure don't play a maybe this week He only got 20 something for some of the snaps this last week, but I think he could see more as the year goes on the other guy to keep in mind here Joe Mixon visiting the Seahawks for some reason Might be worth just an ad to see what happens how old is Joe Mixon. He's only 30 Hey, everyone one more thing that happened after we recording is the Seahawks did sign Joe Mixon We don't entirely know what this is about Joe Mixon had what thought was a career ending foot injury So maybe he's just depth to a manual Wilson a manual Wilson did fine last week and seems like he'd be the starter on early downs Georgia Lonnie would be the passing down guy I think this is more that they're back up would be like Vellus Jones Jr If a manual Wilson got hurt and that Joe Mixon at least is a veteran even if he's probably physically washed I don't anticipate Joe Mixon taking this starting job, but he's a big name And so the very least you could add him and maybe someone would want to trade for him But I certainly wouldn't want to be playing Joe Mixon anytime soon But also who knows what's gonna happen Zach Sharman. It could come back. I don't know if this is some awesome spot But you know compared to some of the other drags on this list I could see Joe Mixon having fantasy value at some point this season. So all right back to the show again Yeah, there's people like Caleb Johnson for the Packers that I thought was gonna take this job then fumbled And I'm like, you know what you don't want anything to do with the Packers man. It's a rat race It's like arguably worse than the Chargers and Eagles. Yeah, who wants to win the worst running back room in the NFL competition to have the worst Offensive line block. It's like literally just whatever it is Like that we shit talk to dolphins and how you shouldn't actually play all the Gordon yet 100 yards in a touchdown That was I was why I said the dolphins might not square touchdown and what I meant was the dolphins wouldn't allow a touchdown Right, so we got halfway there And then Naji Harris got nine carries which I don't think you should add him But I just feel like I can just see from a mile away that week 11. We're gonna be talking about Naji Harris good streamer So he's just a scat about telephone pole runaway from being Naji Harris being your lineup. Okay Wide receiver decays number one receiver ad after week four entering week five man Again kind of a week group of people to choose from here I think I'm gonna lean key on Coleman for the bills who this all depends on whether they play DJ more next week DJ more it's like the Sichuan version of receiver where he comes in gets hurt immediately leaves I feel like the bills probably need to take it easy on DJ more a little bit and maybe sit in for a little bit So his shoulder will get better shoulder injuries. We need this tattoo Shoulder injuries never bother us as much as a foot or whatever But the reality is shoulder injuries don't go away Malik neighbors comes down with a cool catch lens has to leave the game DJ more is to leave the game. It's like you play through it But then you're just constantly in and out of the game And it's actually so annoying to play receiver the shoulders. Yeah, and the bills they have a buy week seven It's like you could you should probably say more two weeks and they give them a third week through the buy They play Monday night. So I guess I've DJ when we did they said the the DJ more thing again Is not considered long term But yeah, he's clearly affected and they should probably sit him. I I think young Coleman as well. I think he on this was the best game of Keon Coleman's entire career He looked good. I mean, we didn't say this on a Sunday night show But he had the catch of the of the week on Sunday his like tip bobble pass was like the best catch of the day I mean, I think that it's worth getting rope adoped in case Keon Coleman goes back to Sucking or DJ more is better or whatever, but Keon Coleman was drafted to beat man coverage and be a ball winner down the field for Josh Challenge to be like fuck it Keon down there somewhere and the upside of that happening is so worth the downside of like Okay, he sucks again. I'm like most of these guys sucked they're on waivers. I want the upside of what if the Really incredibly physically gifted highly drafted receiver Is delivering on his promise and just a you know 18 months later than ever. Just took a little while. Yeah I'm like that is so much more worth betting on to me than like some other random players So especially with the bills and also frankly the intangible value of getting a route for the bills offense and Josh Allen and this like very Child like lovable guy who was just trying to buy rain rain jackets and buffalo and all the viral videos of You know what I mean? So right? I just I know he looked like he did it for a state. He's a breathtaking athlete That was you know, maybe a little young and maybe the child like wonder had to be beaten out of him. So I like Keon Coleman All right, that means it's time for the Keon Coleman Showdown time But first today's showdown time is presented by car heart every showdown needs to stage Which means someone has to build the stadium prep the field assemble the goalpost even make the footballs Car heart makes the gear for those hard working people now. Let's get into the hardworking players. We're adding to our roster this week Coleman was a great quote his rookie season. Remember he was saying like tiger tiger woods tiger could like he was hilarious Between Keon Coleman and Xavier Legett they came out They were like probably the most viral social media draft picks ever before they had played But because Xavier Legett had the accent and Keon Coleman just everything he did was funny And that they both were so terrible that they just kind of went away. Yeah, and I would love it Coleman had like a nightmare last season too. He Was benched. He's basically like a healthy scratch multiple times last year They felt like they were giving up on him, but it does feel now like he's really kind of come back and Refocused so yeah That's kind of it's all gonna be a darkthroat receiver I always would prefer someone who's just like could be really god damn good. No jock Palmer. Not interested Well, I assume he's rostered on every team right all the teams out of the leagues. I'm in he is but I mean not my league Would you rather Josh Palmer Justin Jefferson who's to say this one is from oh, I forgot Oh, no. Oh, it's from Becca Bebo. I didn't even write down her name. This email was just so good. I actually remember because I was so wow this question breakfast was an iced tea A nice tea oh, sorry an iced tea not a nice tea but Just a nice tea. Okay Becca writes. I'm a pediatric nurse. Mm-hmm love vaccines And I heard Craig story about San Diego states football team having 14 players with the mumps Which we've I thought was like a doctor sees royal doll made-up disease right Um, so Becca's question is how many reported cases of mumps have there been in 2026? Well, how many are at San Diego state right now 14? I made my guess just solely based on if San Diego state is 14 And then I guess the number based on that. Fuck it. Hey, um, okay Mumps, like reported cases of mumps as of September 10th nationwide Yeah, in the entire United States Mm-hmm. I have no idea this nothing nothing that we do makes me feel dumber than this game that we play Oh, you feel like an idiot because you know how many mumps are cases are in America? It's just like it's just how far off we always are But that's fine. All right. I got a number in mind Correct. Yeah, sure. All right three two one three hundred Okay, pretty close. I said 5,000 to keep you said 3,000 Chris said 800. Yeah Uh, yeah, I said I the answer is 157. Oh, which I blows my mind because that's in San Diego states football Impossible they need to quarantine that fucking school then What is wrong with you Craig? What is wrong with your school? I don't know. I don't know They've had it for like weeks. It's like a whole thing. They haven't had their full roster like three weeks My fucking mumps Mumps outbreak information that that dealing with mumps outbreak. What let me see if I have any information here 14 cases It remained within a single athletic team Yeah, dude I said we're here. We had the mumps on the ropes man We really did got them on the fucking ropes 1967. It was 97 it was 99% eradicated Awesome. It's coming back though. How do I'm in the first half? All right
- So I won it, right? - Yeah, you and San Diego State, you won the Mumps. - Great. - I'll be like, Keon. - Pretty fitting. - DK, you were next. - Yeah, I'm next. I'll go, man. So there's a lot of options here. I think if you're looking for a high floor option, Khalil Shakir of the bills is another one, especially if DJ Moore is not playing. I don't know if he has a very high ceiling. He's just gonna get like seven, eight targets, probably. - It's not a bad one to be honest. - Short and intermediate. - 10 points, 10 12 points. - I think right now, even though we don't know the timeline of this situation, we don't even know what team he's gonna be on. You have to add Terry Kill just to see what happens. There's Drew Rosenhaus's agent said that he's looking to get him signed this week. They're starting to talk to teams this week. Haven't had really an indication of how he's doing physically. I know at the beginning of the year, he basically couldn't push off and run. He had no explosion. So maybe he's getting closer to getting on the field. I do think you just have to add him, especially if he ends up on the chiefs, which is I think people are making that connection already. He talked about on Twitter how he wants to go somewhere cold. So I think you have to add Terry Kill even though it's totally specky to live right now. He's rostered in 22% of Yahoo leagues. I think you just gotta go add him. So I'll do that. - I don't think Terry Kill is gonna play for like at least a month. - Yeah. - But you need him on roster, right? Like do you agree with that or no? - I think you can have him on a roster mostly for trade value, because I think someone, the moment Terry Kill signs with the chiefs, you could probably trade him to someone who's like, "Terry Kill's back." Just to recap, the injury Terry Kill had, we left saw him in an air cast. - It was a week before last year. - Week before last year. So 53 weeks ago basically, Terry Kill left it in air cast, dislocated his kneecap, which if Don Ron can kill you. ACL, like his knee was shredded. And I wrote this down because I was listening to this thing he did in July. And he basically said in July, he was like, "I have no power in my leg." That was like eight months after the injury. So I'm just kind of like, and it's one of those like even when you heal, then your leg, all your muscles of atrophy, you can't walk on it for a long time. So then you have to just get your legs the same size, because there's like such an atrophy period. Then you ramp up to full speed quote unquote. And then it's like he's 30 years old. And this whole thing was on the fastest receiver ever. So it's like to decay your point. Like we've seen enough with aging curves and all these guys that like anything's possible. I would say even 10 years ago the idea that, the Tiger Caldice healing was basically like the best receiver since Randy Moss. So yes, he's probably worth it. But I really, I would be really surprised if he even played a game before Halloween. He's gonna go back to the chiefs. I think it's more important for like the chiefs actual Super Bowl run. And he kind of being like Caderius Tony on the playoffs than like actual fantasy. I think if depending on your rules, it's can you put him in your injury reserve slot? If he's not on a team, which completely depends on your league and platforms. I've seen some people in ESPN can put him in IR, which I think is like completely the difference to me. Like if you can put him on IR. So it's something you can't because he's not on a team. - I think if you need someone this week, obviously Tiger Cal is not the guy. I do think you should add him. The other guy I wanted to mention here, there's several, but Dante Myers for the bangles, who is a former CFL star. He's technically a rookie this year. He's a great cup champion. - Undrafted out of 2023. - It's a great story. - DK, guess what college you went to? Because you got the mumps, I don't know, Minnesota. - I'll give you $1 million if you can guess the name of this college. - Okay. Fort Valley State. Delta State. Delta State. - That sounds like an animal house college. - All right, but what chase? Jamar Chase, he has a concussion. There's a good chance he misses this week. Higgins I think is supposed to miss maybe a couple of weeks with a groin injury. And he is the next man up in terms of the receiver core there. He had 93% of the teams that were out for team drop back last week. He had seven catches for 82 yards. He's been impressing basically since the summer. I remember hearing about him a bunch over the preseason and summer. So I think he is going to be the next man up if both of those guys are missing. He might only be worth one game for you. - We showed the story of how he made the team, right? - No, we'll have him. - Day before training camp, I forget like they report in waves, the players. And so he was in, I think I forget, I think he's from Florida, somewhere in Florida. And Joe Borough is, calls him and says, hey, I think it was a week before training camp. And he calls him and says, hey, are you around today? And he's like, no, he's like, oh, can you throw with me tomorrow? Like are you around to catch passes tomorrow? Tom Tamar says, yep, doesn't tell Joe Borough that he's in Florida. So he literally hangs up, gets in his car and drives 16 hours to a lot of Joe Borough and shows up at like the time. Didn't even tell Joe Borough to later in the day. And it's like, and then ends up making the team, which is just kind of a nice story, you know what I mean? Like the odds of him into five starting is like astronomical. So it's a nice story. There's, there's definitely like a few players that would probably play before I put him in my lineup this week, although they were playing the dolphins. I don't know. I kind of feel like he's going to be the number one receiver for the for the bangles. I spoiler is, I have Micah Sikki at tight end, but honestly, I would play Micah Sikki in a flex way before Dante Myers, 'cause I think that's true. I agree with that. I'm sure like Chase Brown and Gisikki are going to have 20 catches next week. I would play Micah Sikki and my flex before Dante Myers, for sure. Although it's like a nice story. And they're on by the week after that, I believe. Yeah, so. Well, I think that's why I think this is a one week thing. Whereas Tyree Kill is like a multi-week. Just put it on your roster and hope something happens in three weeks or whatever. The other players I want to mention that I think are solid, dark throws. I do think Chris Bell on the dolphins who had no stats this week, but had like a ADR touchdown called back 'cause the ref said it was a quarter of an inch out of bounds. He's like, he's been really kind of flashing a lot too. Like, he had a good game last week. I'm blown away by how good Chris Bell is. And again, I think that like you want it, you do want to lean toward talent. Chris Bell was basically considered like an AJ Brown-esque player in the draft. And then he tore his ACL. He was at a Louisville, a tore his ACL in December. The fact that Chris Bell is even playing as a call that you never ever see college football players tear their ACL in December and then start in week one when they're missing all camp and this all season work. The fact that he's even playing is impressive. He looks like Costco brand AJ Brown. Like Chris Bell looks so good and so physical. - Dialistically, he's a similar player, yeah. - He's excellent. And I do just kind of want to bet on a player like that. He does remind me of AJ Brown and the Titans in his rookie year. And I kind of just want a guy like that. Even like, I don't know. I just, the dolphins are going to be behind so much that I don't know. There's a worse bet you could make. Malik Washington's more of like the Josh Downs of Miami, but I'm less interested in that than a potential like, again, you have to be a physical freak. If you are tearing your ACL in December in Louisville and then you're playing in the NFL and look great on an NFL field nine months later, that's not a thing. So I'm impressed by him. - It's always simple. - I think it's good to have like one talented rookie on your roster that just sit there all year just in case by week 11 they're great. - Yeah. - And if he's rostered in Tony Williams and Washington same thing, had like no stats. - I love this guy. - He's having a touchdown wiped away by him too. - He looks good, man. - I like him. - Every time he touches it, I'm like, this guy has it. He's good. - Totally good. - I don't love it for this week, but I do think Jayden Daniels will be back within like two weeks. And then when Jayden Daniels is back between terribing injured and Tony Williams could easily be a great player down the stretch. But if you do this week, 'cause I know we just keep saying, Tyra Killen not this week, maybe not these guys this week, the this week player of Kim Coleman's gone is Roman Wilson for the Steelers. Because he is the guy that clearly Aaron Rodgers just a handful of people, even when Roman Wilson drops him, like there's Aaron Rodgers going to take deep shots for Roman Wilson twice a game. And it's going to hit or not, but the Steelers play the cults this week. The cults defense fucking sucks. They've given up the like the second half. - The sauce keeps getting worse. - Dude, first sauce was getting rocked by Aethan Collake, Collake Manus. This Rutgers quarterback who went on draft. I was shocked. They're targeting sauce. Kind of one of the worst trades I could remember is the two first for sauce. But I mean. - He gave up a touchdown against Traylon Berks and a Diamy Brown maybe, or I can't remember. - It's bad. And so I just, Aaron Rodgers is going to watch this London game at this Rutgers quarterback throwing bombs over the cults defense. And Rodgers is going to have a couple plays to Roman Wilson he wants, whether he hit it or not, but I'd rather play a guy that's kind of two points or 15, which is kind of where Roman Wilson's at. So I think that's the dart throw that has a really good shot of working for this week. - It's funny that Roman Wilson is a guy who I always liked and I always thought was gonna be a thing. But I mean, this was year three. And I think people had kind of moved on because it was like two seasons in a row. He's been banged up and everybody's like, no, no, I think there's something. And it actually, you kind of rarely see it, what everyone was talking about, actually kind of come to fruition. And I do think he looks pretty solid. He has two touchdowns this year. He's getting like six targets a game. He is like the number three in this offense. I mean, Michael Pittman's been a disaster. He came back after super up and down. - Rodgers doesn't like Pittman. - Well, so, Craig, what was that thing with Rodgers where they caught him on camera looking at the coaches or whatever and saying, this guy fucking sucks or something like that. People were lip-reading. That was the ref talking to Trey McBride. - I don't know who the receiver was that he was talking about. - I think people connected that we're trying to connect the dots and thought it was about Michael Pittman, but I can't confirm that obviously. - I do think Michael Pittman's not healthy, but he does not look like anything what we thought he would look like. - Just a thing about Roman Wilson. So a few years ago, we went to the senior ball. And the senior ball is cool for a few reasons because you can actually just, it's one of the last places left. You can really actually have an extended one-on-one conversation with a player. And I actually talked to Roman Wilson. Like me and like two other guys for like 10, 15 minutes and just like who he is. So he Roman Wilson's from Hawaii. And he obviously like, when you're gifted a football, you want to try to get to these like, you know, these like more elite football schools will give you a scholarship. But it was on a different island. But I believe his, I forget if his dad or his mom - I want to say his dad worked for Alaska Airlines. - So he flew to high school every day. Roman Wilson would get on the plane with his dad and fly at like six in the morning to the other island, you know, like 30 minutes, but it's a flight every morning. And then on the way back though, his dad wasn't flying.
So he would have to fly standby, which is basically if there's an empty seat you get on the plane But if not, you have to wait for the next one and he would wait at high school after football practice to for a plane to take him back But he never knew what he was going back and he did this every day. It was like 15 hour days Yeah, and then he had to live with another family on the island and he and it was interesting because he's the only receiver I can ever remember telling me he's like I wasn't that good at catching the ball or running routes I had to work out. I was like I'm not a national catcher I'm not a natural rat runner. I really had to learn and I just thought I don't know So he's a work ethic guy and I think that because of that like getting him with Rodgers But I know he was a very cool guy to talk to so I'm it's it easy to root for person He's still kind of has a little bit of the drops he's here in there But I remember when the Steelers took him he just felt like a stealer this like Michigan gritty kind of Power slot receiver like like a real grit energy guy and he is kind of working out this year and looks pretty good The other total dart thread says I think just laugh for the line solely because the lines are playing the Cardinals this week And that'll be a shootout but between one of those I hope that one of those guys is available But um, yeah, so Coleman for this week Chris Beller and Tony Williams have Tyrick Hill long term And then if you really need this week rum and listen to tesla um 80 Mitchell if he's healthy out of the throwout that's a possibility I want to get his hand. That's a good one. It's a good one He's missed two games of the finger injury I mean he can't catch with regular hands. I need to see it doesn't have that giant club club Showdowns like that could ever happen without the people who make it possible Carhartt is proud to outfit the trades people behind the game from the stadium To the field and everything in between learn more at carhartt.com/jointhetrades The ringer fantasy football shows brought to my fandal. 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It's like I've on the bangles I'd rather risk this week and get Jamar chase and tea against three weeks of rest Then just rush them back and get him six days. Yeah, so either way I think Mike is sick he has to be number one if you need a player this week, right again the bangles play the dolphins Yeah, I think so but just because of the injury situation Yeah, if you're looking for a rest of season type player. I think maybe there's better options T.J. Hockinson look great, but that was mainly because I think Justin Jefferson was out I think he's probably not going to see 13 targets in every game the other guy that I still really like And I think it's going to continue to be a huge part of their offense is Michael mayor of the Raiders He had 10 targets in this game eight catches 82 yards He's basically their number one tight end and Brock Bauer's is a receiver They don't have a number one receiver on the team So I think Michael mayor is a good rest of season ad Michael Sikki is a higher ceiling this week. Yeah, because they're playing the dolphins And the dolphins just give up all those yards to Hockinson So it's kind of like how much is Hockinson? He was the number one tight end of the week and would have had another touchdown if he hadn't slid at the one How much of its Hockinson's back which I think is true Kyler likes it. I think the dolphins and Jacob Rodriguez are maybe a little susceptible to tight ends But I guess Sikki for the week, but do you think Hockinson's actually like a top 10 tight end the rest of the season Really hard to know just because Jefferson was out, but it sure seems like Kyler wants to look at look for him on every snap Which is always a big thing. I always I always have thought that Titans are very quarterback dependent They have to have a quarterback that's willing to pass over the middle field and look for them and find them or whatever There's multiple variables to it, but It's very much a quarterback stat as well as scheme stat So I do think Hockinson's a good ad. Yeah, I just don't know Yeah, you know, which Jefferson back it's not going to be to the level we saw last week now also like I want to go after offences and quarterbacks that I trust And I would much totally depend on Joe burrow and even like the Raiders offense with Kirk Michael mayor despite technically being the number two tight end Is playing a really high percentage of snaps like he's out there for almost like 85 90% of snaps Which is as about as high as you can get for tight ends And he looks good this leads to a larger question Which is we have joked for like years and I think it's we have to talk with this for like eight years We've basically the worst part of doing the show playing fantasy football everything is like streaming tight ends in like week nine Yeah, when there's six teams on buy and we're just talking all these shitty tight ends that suck and are all interchangeable and just praying the square touchdown Not only is tight end officially deep And there are more tight like obviously teams are running more tight end sets It's like the the game within the game right now is teams every team is playing two tight ends all the times You look at the starting lineups all like just tight ends are everywhere. They're scoring more touchdowns I think we're at the point where it's gone from you don't even want to have a backup tight end because anyone you'd add is the same To not only can you have a backup tight end? There were plenty of situations now where I think it makes more sense to play a tight end in the flex Then a receiver at time. Yeah, like there are tight ends that you could have added this year that you might have as your backup Like adult and Schultz Mike Gassicki this week where I'm like they're probably better in your flex than many their receivers We're talking about which I don't think has been true for a single week. We've done this show in almost like a decade. Yeah Yeah, because now you know you can totally now would be like, you know, you're looking at dudes like Jacobi Myers You're like oh, he could be a flex. Cortland Sutton could be a flex Kalil Shakira could be a flex I would much rather be starting like Michael mayor Mark Andrews Britain strange a very realistic situation You could be in because let's say you have George Kittle But you also have a player you picked up to and for the first two weeks when Kittle is missed like Dalton Schultz or Mike Gassicki I would have way rather play Mike like this week I'd rather play Mike Gassicki than like Brian Thomas Jr. Or like Marvin Harrison. Yeah. Yeah Marvin Harrison had a touchdown and he still he had seven points. That was his only catch Yeah, they had to go to Deonte Banks the auntie, but yeah the confidence builder I but you see Marvin Harrison did the shush after he scored that touchdown Well, yeah, it was being quiet because they didn't have another catch one 12-year touchdown. He's like don't worry I'll continue to be quiet. Yeah Dude, he's the other guy to keep in mind here is Tyler Higby for the Rams. Yes Who has been really good even though they did get pukabak He's still a huge part of this offense. He had five catches for 67 yards Terrence Ferguson who we didn't know the status of last week, but he now was on IR So that kind of solid if I take care of her so that yeah talk about two players in back-to-back weeks with Jonah Coleman and and Terrence Ferguson that looked great looked boys to get job hurt their ankle in the game and timing. Yeah so we're going to do The my casicki as our lead candidate here. I think so. Yeah casicki Hawkinson and then is it Higby and a Michael mayor which one The Rams play the bills. I think casicki's number one Hawkinson two Mayor three. I'm a big mayor guy. Yeah. No, I do like the mayor thing DK the plane to England who's been pretty stingy to tight ends But that's true and also I think that the thing about the Michael mayor thing is I don't see the dynamic changing where Brock Bowers and he was sick this week so maybe it's a part of that and maybe it comes down to related Practice more concepts of the mayor, but I think every defense is going to make the decision We don't want Brock Bowers to get the ball. He's playing that well. Yeah Okay, all right. Yeah, I mean, it's time for the Mike Gassicki Showdown time This is from Aaron Or Ebone I suppose hot a lot of Minecraft related questions and video game questions because again We were talking about the Minecraft thing with Mike Talman and DK spent use 44th birthday upset that he had made fun of Minecraft And it's okay DK Thank you Aaron writes Breakfast was coffee with a whisper of milk and a vivance a whisper I love that whisper of milk. I like I like that order style. Just a whisper of milk So Aaron writes in light of Mike Talman's Minecraft stream. Here is a Minecraft-based question Minecraft is widely considered to be the best-selling single title video game of all time How many copies of Minecraft minecraft? So I have been sold worldwide. Oh, no I have I have no Mechanism to find this number in my head. I will tell you this because I knew this off the top of my head The top three selling video games of all time are Minecraft Tetris and Grand Theft Auto 5 and if that's wrong it doesn't matter Because I knew that when I guessed and I'm telling you and if I'm wrong then we're all wrong together Tetris has a game that you buy Like what in what fashion that's counting like it's counting phones too, I think Oh, like downloading a Tetris app. Yeah, we're like on Xbox or yeah, like Tetris and I don't know how they count it Like the 80s and 90s it might have just been that might just been revenue But that was in my head when I guess so I just so this is how many copies has been sold of Minecraft man. Yes Okay I have like absolutely no concept of this You'll have to initial nether apology dk. Oh, yeah, okay Three two one a hundred million 50 million. Oh god Okay, why I thought I was going high, but I said 80 million. Okay Wow, all right, I just kind of 350 million Craig got the dub 350 mil there was a little like dk said a hundred and Craig was like a hundred and 50 million I had a number in my head and I said it. So I don't know what you want to do. So you get Micah Sikki Again, first the dolphins Micah Sikki has like you should I the odds that he's a top five title next week are really high, which is hard to Like predict, but it's really high for Kisikki. I know. I'm kind of in dire straits in my league So I have like Mark Andrews. I'm going to spend a decent amount
out of my fab on my like my consikier Michael mayor, especially a little more Jackson's hurt. Yeah. I am going to go with Michael mayor for the longevity of this. I'll take Hawkinson. They're playing the Saints and it's I think he's a great add to it. I think he looks good. Good. And that's the thing is tight ends are do even Brent strains and even make the top three here. I think Brent strange is solid. He looked awesome. Yeah. Strange looks really good. Yeah. Waller Higby. Yeah. Panthers are on by, but I dare Waller does look really good. Yeah. Okay. Quarterback. Lamar Jackson undergoing an MRI on his ankle today. After leaving the stadium Sunday in a walking boot that is from Adam Schaefter. Don't have a diagnosis there, but you know, if you have Lamar, you might need to replace him. Caleb Williams is not going to play this week. So Tyson Beige is starting versus the Packers. So, you know, if you have a quarterback, if you had Marcus Marriota, he's hurt. So someone needs a quarterback. So the quarterbacks this week, I think it's actually really easy. Jacobin per set and the Cardinals are facing Detroit, which if you watch son and football, lions, allowing the most yards, most passing yards, most passing touchdowns, lion's defense just sucks. The Mario Kart Rainbow strip. Yeah. Just because it's going to be shoot out. James Winston Giants. He's hitting up, baby, 250 yards, two interceptions, three touchdowns, four sacks. James is back. He can throw again. He can throw again. He does, he's just completely vintage. James is totally back. Total roller coaster. But for fantasy purposes, James can throw three picks and three touchdowns that it all works out. So if you're down bad, the Giants you play Washington, you know, I think that's totally viable. And also Aaron Rogers, where culture terrible. And I'm just saying I know, but the Colts, I'm telling you guys, if you watch this London game, it is crazy. Like I'm not saying Aaron Rogers going to 500 yards, but I think Aaron Rogers, if he's going to four touchdowns this season, it will be against the Colts, the Colts defense is horrendous and the kind of defense that will give up to the Steelers. So Roger's Adot, his average step to target is way up this year to take a shot. And the Colts again, sauce garter is getting hunted again. This is a world where if Jacobi percent and Jamie's aren't there, you don't really have better options. And I don't think you want cam wore against the frickin Texans, although maybe you do because the Texas defense has been kind of terrible. So, but I think that they're a really good quarterback this week. What are the odds that a week for now? We're talking about A thing, Kaliak Mianas being a pretty great quarterback. I think low. Right. Yeah, I think so. Okay, defenses. There are a lot of options this week. I'm going to read a bunch and I want you guys to pick one. And again, with the context that it's not just like, are they going to like have a fine game, but it's I think for defense, it's worth reminding people that you want big plays. You want sacks. You want thumbles. You want interceptions. You want pick sixes. Like the Giants defense got 14 points last week with the Deontay Banks pick six. You want big plays. So that said, Niners facing Seattle San Donald throw a pick on the first play of the game. Like you had the most interceptions last year. I kind of do like the Niners defense. The Saints are facing the Vikings, which I don't know, you know, we're recording this before my native football, but Kyler, the Vikings, the offense has been horrible. The Giants are facing Washington, which could be A thing, Kaliak Mianas. And like that guy is shucking it. So I think the Giants defense is bad, but that one is like, you know, could I don't think Jayden will be bad. If Jayden Janels is back, I wouldn't do it. But man, if Kaliak Mianas is playing similarly, the Washington defense, which is not good, but playing James Winston, which automatically makes it a serious chance that the Washington scores are touched on defense. Sonny Stiles has been fantastic. Browns are facing the Jets, which just had 57 fewer plays than Chicago. I can't believe that. That's an all that's an all-timeer. The Browns defense put on a lot of pressure last week too. Browns defense is kind of good. I like, I'll admit, I really thought that Browns defense was going to crater with no miles, Garrett. You lost Jim Schwartz. I just, the vibes are bad. Cleveland, like the defense has been way better than I expected. I also have to say the Bears defense, which I've also besmirched quite a bit as the worst front seven of any team actually trying to win the Super Bowl. But they're Dennis Allen, the coordinator who we kind of hated his head coach is doing great job. And they're playing the Packers. And that's a really like blood rivalry game. But man, like the Packers offensive line is horrendous. Yeah, and the Bear in front of you. Yeah, they have six turnovers in four games. Even fantasy wise, they're not bad. Six points, seven points, 12 points, seven points. When either of you consider Dallas playing Jalen Daniels on Thursday night. That was my next question. It's Thursday in football. And I almost wonder is, does the truncated timeline mean the Buccaneers kind of turtle that have an undrafted quarterback? They're basically going to put him in position to fuck up. But I don't know like an undrafted guy on on prime time. I know Dallas's defense is horrific. I think the question I have DK is if you have like the Texans defense. Yeah, probably aren't cutting bait now because they're playing cam ward, but who's like the best defense that you're kind of like I would I would swap it out from one of these guys. Like the chiefs run by so that's easy. The Browns, maybe just because of the way that they're playing right now against, especially against the jets who were really horrific in this last game. Plus Gino has been prone to turn the wall over. Like if you've been holding on to Philly's defense all year, they've been really underwhelming for fantasy purposes. Yeah. And they're playing Jacksonville this week. So here's my real advice. There are so many defensive options that if you're in a league where there's waiver claims and you have to put in a waiver claim and doing that drops you to the end of the order. So if you're in a 12 team league and you get the 12th waiver order by putting in a claim, I would just and you're only adding a defense this week. I wouldn't do it. And I would just pick up one of these Niners, Saints, Giants, Washington, Browns, Bears, Dallas, and just try to get a higher waiver claim for the week because sometimes that really matters because there's as we said, so many tight ends, so many defenses that maybe it's the week actually to save your waiver claim. But that, you know, I know that depends on your league. The other team, I had a camera. If you mention them, but the bangles are playing the dolphins. Yeah. That's the highest scoring fantasy defense this season. Yeah. And they had they had a couple of big weeks early in the year. Have been a little quiet the last two weeks against good offenses or better offenses. But yeah, the dolphins offense has been struggling. So that could be a big game for them. This conversation's a good reason why we say in the draft, like we should you don't think you should take the CX defense of the Texans defense because like, you know, look at Bill, who I think took both defenses, the CX and Texans are maybe Dave Chang took one. We're like, well, those are the two best defenses. And sometimes being the best defense doesn't mean you the best fantasy defense. Yeah. And it's like looking at the list, even after week one, you're like, man, there's no good defenses. And then it's week five. And we're like, there's like eight defenses this week that probably have a really, really good matchup. And that's why we don't want to draft one till the last round because I know even I wavered or like man, it'd be cool to have a set and forget, but it just never works. Right. Okay. I have to read an email to you guys. Hold on real quick. Nikhil has been waiting so patiently to come on and tell us our stuff. Yeah. Now that waivers are done. Yes. It's an honor to be here. We're bringing it to you know, who has joined the squad this year as a producer on our show. He's a lifelong Chicago Bears fan. So he's kind of been basking in whichever quarterback Ben Johnson chooses each week and having a blast each time. Yeah. That's why I'm here. I'm here to spread Ben Johnson to give Dennis out on his flowers. Nikhil's been keeping track of waivers and or sorry, of the trivia totals all week, all season. So hit us with who is winning. Okay. In first place, Craig with six trivia wins this season. In second place, DK with four trivia wins. Okay. And in third place, Hyphids with two trivia. This is a classic. Hyphids rope a dope where he. Hyphids is like he's he's getting down early because he thinks everyone thinks he's cheating. And then what else is that? He'll surge going to put his thumb on the win one today. Yes, you did. I won one in the first month. Yeah. Are you calling to kill a liar? Geez. No, I just got to start cheating again. You won once in week one. And then you went on a two week drought. Fuck. Sorry. I'll start cheating. I do want to ask real quick what it's like to be a Bears fan this year because I think the Bears have had a unique rollercoaster of a season where you had Caleb Williams 59 points week one where you're like that moment of that so rare for somewhere like we have the coolest team in the NFL best offense. And then Caleb Williams gets hurt and you're like, he's out for the season. Then you're like, you go through that emotional rollercoaster. Well, no, they score 59. Then they score three. And then Caleb's hurt. So you're like my life's over. Then Caleb's fine. But you the meme of the season, then you have the case. Keenum beloved old man prime time game. Those are all very distinct emotions. We are teams. The main character. And I think the Bears have had four of those this year. And it's like, what does the rollercoaster been like? It's been great just because I have a good competent head coach. And that hasn't been the case for pretty much my entire life. And I think that he's just someone who can like solve any issue that we're having. And I think that he's loving having this challenge of being able to start these quarterbacks. And not only do you have like a competent head coach, you kind of have a crazy head coach, you know, like he's got real energy. He's not some boring quiet nerd who's just in the background. You're on a place like he's in your face. Ben Johnson is quietly also very ripped big workout guy. Like every guy. The guy contact guy. I can't answer like 280 like something like that. Yeah. He wakes up like 5 a.m. to do his workouts. He's crazy. Yes. I think even staring. I think Ben Johnson makes eye contact and just rel I think he's trying every every time he makes eye contact if anyone is like a little staring contest to him. He's going to out intense. Yeah. Conversation. I will say winning the way that we're winning like with our running game is the most satisfying way to win. Yeah. This is what I said early on. Yeah. It's amazing. It just squeezes you to death. I mean the jets were barely allowed to play football this week because they just didn't get the ball. It's calm and I just ran the ball every single play. Football is just numbers and angles. Like that really is it's just physics. It's just like it's just all the scheme is in the run game. It's just way more complicated than I think people understand. It's just trying to get big people
to hit people at certain angles. And the way Ben Johnson's able to just get people in motion. And it's funny because the results are crazy where the bears have as many 250 yard rushing games. The last couple under Ben Johnson has every other team in the NFL combined. Do you, Nikhil, do you think Deandre Swift is going to be back in the mix? Or do you think my down guy is going to be the new guy? I think he is going to be in the mix just because I think that he got put in the doghouse for one of the most inexplicable fumbles I've seen in a while. He had the other day. So I do think that he's going to be back and fully in the mix. But Menunga also has a thumb injury. All right. So it's going to be, yeah, who knows. I think we're going to have to wait and see on that. But yeah, I think it's going to go back to, especially with Caleb, I think that Caleb and Swift, kind of Swift being more involved in passing game and like the improv stuff that Caleb does, I think that Swift is going to be the lead in there. All right. Well, Nikhil, thank you for coming on and don't forget. At some point, you're going to have to be our Gen Z correspondent. We'll have to have some Gen Z stuff get on out of some of you. I'd be happy to. I frequently ask him questions. It's like, yeah, last night, Nikhil texted us, "Why are the lions dabbing?" Which was great. I don't know what. I haven't got an answer. Yeah. No one knows the answer. I guess they all think it's cool. I'm not sure. Anyway, okay. Thank you, Nikhil. Of course. Thanks guys. Email us at
[email protected]. If you have questions for Gen Z correspondent, Nikhil. If we have any Gen Z questions or if Gen Z, you have questions of us. If you're a Gen Z listener and you have things, we're wondering like, what are we doing? That's like dabbing. Or if people have questions for the youth, Nikhil will just represent all young people in the entire world and any issues you want to foist upon Gen Z. What are you doing if you hit a really good golf shot? What's your go to celebration? Nothing. Nothing. Yeah. All right. Well, that's okay. I have fun. Boring. They're playing well and locked in like Ben Johnson or you're playing terribly and are just either. I mean, like if I like stick the green 180 yards out, I'm watching the ball and I probably just exhale and smile to myself. If I like nail like a 30 foot putt, what I try to do is if I have the wear with all, if I see it going and I try to do the Nicholas walk, I throw the putter up and start walking towards the cup. Yeah. Yeah. Pudding, making a putt the only thing I'll actually celebrate because if you can kind of walk off the putt, like if you can kind of be like, I'm calling it when it's still eight feet out, throw the putter up, start walking, coolest move in the world. Yes. That is it. And also if you crush a tee shot, then you kind of just pick up the tee and walk away. Yeah. You don't even watch if it comes down. Yeah, you know it. Yeah. I'm doing, I'm doing the, just like the walk in a circle, like fucking what's his name? McDonald. What's his name in the shooter when he walks around with his hands and then he just like throws the putter. Yeah. That's what I'm doing. God. I just still think it's funny. It's like ironically funny just holding your hands up like this and just shake it up. Something so good about that. It's just classic. Never, never gets old. Not enough opportunities to do that in every day of life. 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They did say they want green eggs, which is, I guess what they call spinach. It's blended into the eggs. So maybe that in a corn tortilla. Oh, that's nice. That's a good trick. Very healthy. We're calling it green eggs for the kids, making spinach. Rudy, Rudy's on top of it. He's awake before his children. Good God, man. You are a type A. It's funny. I've actually never really considered what green eggs were. Like if the Dr. Seuss green eggs had ham, I never really thought about what green eggs were. Is that, were they spinach? No. In Dr. Seuss, they're just weird eggs. They're just green eggs. I don't know. I have those made up shit with the mumps. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. The chickens had mumps. It's funny you say type A because Rudy actually, I didn't put this, it was a longer email so I cut it, but he actually wrote that he, working, he said, we were talking about your birthday and like working out and stuff. And he said, working out with kids sucks. So I now wake up at four in the morning to work out before the kids are awake. Because the morning into the bar and he was lifting and they almost, like, kept hitting themselves. Yeah. It's more of all those emailing us. Yeah. Yeah. Rudy Walberg. Yes, seven a.m. kicking your butt. So Rudy writes, this is incredible, Rudy, Rudy passes along this job. There is a job. And the job title is, this is a government job. And the job title is Grizzly Bear Conflict Manager. Yes. But that's amazing. It's the department of the interior. The job title is Grizzly Bear Conflict Manager. So they're breaking up fights between Grizzly Bears or between Grizzlies and people? I imagine it's, oh, he's breaking up fights between bears, all bear conflict. He's mediating conflicts between Grizzlies. All bear conflict. No, I imagine it's, I imagine it's dealing with bears that have wandered into campgrounds as well. That's right. Maybe. Anger. This job posting is one of the best things I've ever seen. So it must be located within 100 miles of, it's a lot of Montana, but it's like Bozeman, Montana, Mizzool, like it's Montana based job. Grizzly Bear Conflict Manager. I've seen, I've seen so many videos online of people hiking or doing whatever and like having to stand your ground against a Grizzly Bear. I'm like, Jesus Christ. I hope I never have to do this. Every time I go to a place like that and I give you a bear spray, I'm like, hope you. I don't like that you're giving me this. Yeah. Well, that's the, you know, black bear, you know, Skat is like, you know, there's like berries and leaves and Grizzly Bear Skat has a bear mace. That's terrifying. Great. Yeah. It has human remains in it. Exactly. It's the moment with all the human skulls. So the Grizzly Bear Conflict Manager, this is literally a government job posting. The Grizzly Bear Conflict Manager is responsible for coordinating Grizzly Bear Conflict Management in Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, and Washington jointly with state agencies, tribes and wildlife services. The position deals with a highly controversial species, but provides the opportunity to develop innovative solutions and collaborative partnerships. Position requires a balanced perspective, significant Grizzly Bear handling experience, strong communication and relationship building skills. Is this such linked in language? They're doing ice breakers with Grizzly Bear, what are you talking about? Are you going to crash on the side of the freeway? Are you brave enough to fucking stand your ground against a bear? It literally says. That's really what you need. It says eligible for telework. You can do this as via Zoom. It's, dude, the whole thing is unbelievable. It's so, it's such a linked ineffication. The minimum qualifications for Grizzly Bear Conflict Manager are literally, it's just managed to lead a staff of national resource professionals, to evaluate species conservation plans and right scientific papers, three, trap and chemically immobilize Grizzly Bears. Grizzlies are terrifying animals. I have so much respect for people who deal with big, you know, hunting animals. Grizzly Bear? Carnivores of that caliber, yeah. Bears are faster than horses in short distances. Oh, bears are, yeah. Bears are cool. Bears are cool animals. They're up there with the coolest animals on the planet. Bears are crazy. They're just like kind of giant forest dogs. Like, totally. They're what, dude, bears are crazy. Giant forest dogs, you mean wolves, is what you're looking for. Yeah, but like, they're kind of like, they're dog like, like, like, black bear videos and rink cameras and Tahoe, they're like, they're kind of like dogs. I don't, I don't know what a bear is though. Like a wolves are like a dog. What even is a bear? No idea. I love that they sleep all winter, too. They just chill. So I learned that they don't actually sleep all winter. They're just either cave, not doing anything, which is kind of like what we do. Right. They're doing a teller, teller remote job or whatever. Bears and alligators are like, I would never. What's this? What's the ranking of animals that you're most scared of? And it has to be like animals that you actually might encounter in the United States. Bear is up there. Shark goes up there. Ooh, sharks. Yeah. Bear? I think bears are probably in the top three. Bear, I've seen enough videos on Instagram that I'm like, I have a shot to like, you know, grizzly bear. I feel like you stand there, bluff charge. You just stand your ground like roar or whatever. Get everyone a roar. Black bear. You can't play dead because they'll just fuck with you. You can scare off a blithe. I think I can scare off a black bear more likely that black bears don't show me that much. Yeah. Shark, I feel like I've seen enough shark week that I can, you know, get in the eyes, get in the gills. Like I might be able to do something.
Crocodile dude, I am so afraid of alligators. Like I hate, if I'm playing golf somewhere in Florida, Seth, I wouldn't even go near the water. - I think the alligator thing is funny 'cause I just have no experience whatsoever with alligator. I grew up obviously out in the Pacific Northwest. And I've been to Montana and stuff. I have friends that are from Montana. When I've been in Montana, they carry a fucking magnam with them when they're out in the woods. And that scares me. I'm like, you have to fucking carry the dirty hairy gun with you to deal with these things. - I still think-- - Like that makes me a little nervous. - I think I could escape a crock faster than a bear or a shark. - You don't see people bopping grizzly bears on the nose. Like you do on social media with like, - I think I got a lot of crocodiles. - Or at least I think I could. - On the ground, it wants me on Don. - The crock freaks me out because if it gets its jaws on you, it's over. - Well, that's kind of-- - Well, that's kind of anything though. - No, but the difference is a crocodile, once it has you, the bite force, it's like your human being-- - They do the death roll thing. - No, I know, but once the bear has its hands on you or a shark has its mouth on you, I feel like you're cooked on all these scenarios. - Yeah, we're just a giant meat sack and he's got like finger knives and it's-- - I think it's fine. - It's shark, dude. Being in the ocean, waist down, you can't see what's going on. And there's a shark circling you. There's nothing more terrifying. - Sharks are terrifying. You know what? Loki, Cougars scare the shit out of me. Even though there's very-- - There's very-- - There's a fuckin' cougar in there. - Yeah, Pat, here's the Dale son. (laughing) - Pilo Columbus. - Come back to him. - Time to be a man. - Yeah, hair in your pages are what? - Yeah, do you think Grizzly Bear Conflict Manager, do you think that title kind of plays on the dating apps? (laughing) - No, no, it depends on the kind of person. - I think-- - Are you gonna change that to like Bear Wrangler? - If you live in the Rocky Mountains and you're swiping on hinge and you come across Grizzly Bear Conflict Manager, beefy dude, kinda ripped, got some flow. Kind of a cool title. - I mean, it's pretty high. - Oh yeah. - Yeah. - I probably would change it to something cooler sounding, to be honest, if I was a bear conflict man. - Yeah, like a bear Wrangler or a bear. - It's just 12, man. That's a good job. I don't know if you know the government scale. G-S-12. - G-S-12? - Have you guys seen that movie, "The Edge" with Anthony Hopkins? - Oh yeah. - "Bart the Bear." - Yeah, "Bart the Bear." - "Bart the Bear." - Yeah. - Amazing movie. - Oh, I feel like we've talked to this 'cause there was something about that bear was famous, right? There was "Bart the Bear." - "Bart the Bear." - Yeah. - He was like the frickin, I don't know. - Yeah, "Bart the Bear." He was in a bunch of movies. - "Legend Bear." - "Great actor." He was in "Legends of the Fall." - "Legends of the Fall." - Oh my God, speaking of. - Yeah. - What was the strongest arguments we've ever had on the show? What was it, whether that's a famous movie? - Oh right. - I don't have the energy to go over this again, but yes. - Watch the "Edge" though. - It's Alec Baldwin and Anthony Hopkins in the woods trying to escape a bear after a plane crash. - That's sick. - It's good. - The opening movie was Anthony Hopkins in with "Bart the Bear." Wait, I know of two right now. - I want an indie, I want to trivia question about "Bart the Bear" next week. Wow, "Bart the Bear." That's a huge bear. Two bears are crazy. - Yeah. - "Bares are crazy." - "Bares are crazy." - Wow. - Oh, he died. - All right, he was like 50 years old. - I think he probably died a while ago. - Yeah, he was born in 1977. - There's something funny about us talking about. "Bart the Bear" was born in 1977. Yeah, he was born in the '70s. - Bear citizenship. - I mean, honestly, heyday of the '80s in Hollywood. He's probably having a blast. Sun sets again. - Hangin' out with Rob Lowe. - It was a project placement bit. - Oh yeah. - You know, probably having a blast. All the same. - I knew Rob Downey Jr. when he was fun. - Yeah. - He's a rat pack. - He's back in the day. - He's always been around. - Skat pack. - Okay. - Oh. - Thank you, Craig. - Thank you, Nikhil. Thank you everyone for emailing. In those trivia questions, I want to at least one "Bart the Bear" trivia question. Shout out to all the city of the state guys with the mumps. Get better soon. - Yeah, shout out to them. - But most of all, thank you, Lord! - Lord! - Hi, Fitz, songs your embarrassed that you love. - All right, you know what? Maybe I didn't have a ton of great '80s knowledge to contribute to '80s month. Let me tell you something. There are so many songs that I'm embarrassed that I don't know. - This is designed for hi-fits, right? - Let me tell you something. We're doing a month about good taste. It's tough, but let me tell you something. Now that we're in, like, out of red light and we're rolling up the windows to listen to this song, let me give you one. - He's so fast. - Radioactive by Imagine Dragons. - Oh. (laughing) - Yes. Hell yes. That is good. - Nikhil back of our generation. And by that, I mean great. - No. (laughing) - Radioactive, dude, let me tell you this. All the Imagine Dragons songs, believer. On top of the world, demons. - They're all the same story. - Those are radioactive. - They all sound exactly the same. All the same. You know what? The formula works, baby. If it comes on, I'm like not turning that off. I think if I'm in the car and I can turn up real out, I probably enjoy it. I'll be honest. - This is a good one. I don't like that song, but I love that you like it. And that's what you don't like. - Welcome to the new age. To the new age. (laughing) - Radioactive. - Radioactive. (laughing) - And look, yes. - Man. (laughing) - Imagine Dragons, they really are like Nikhil back. Although I think Nikhil back is now coming back around where people are starting to respect them again. Imagine Dragons. - Like Creole. - Yeah. But Imagine Dragons, they're one of those bands where I bet you they just fucking kill on the road. I bet you they play massive stadiums and sell out. And yet you can't find anybody who says they're their favorite band. (laughing) - Right. What did they get their name from? - It's a good name. Come on. - Is it? - It's a good name. - No, it's not. I think it's a bad name. - It's a good name. - I think it's a decisively bad name. - That's a good name. - This is terrible. The name Imagine Dragons is an anagram created from a secret original phrase that the band members chose together. - Oh, that's the way. - It's like, this is my tattoo. It's meaning I'm not gonna tell you about it. - It's very, very meaningful tattoo. I started listening to Imagine Dragons in preparation 'cause I was so excited to admit to the world finally. I don't even know if I could share this with my wife yet, how much you know? (laughing) - I don't know if I could touch it. - That's good. - I'm probably gonna have a Christian rock energy to them a little bit. - Yeah, but I started listening and it's funny 'cause believers, they're most dream song and Spotify. In the beginning of believers, first things, first done. I'm gonna say all the words in my head. - Yeah. (laughing) - There we went. - There we went. ♪ Oh my day, oh no words inside my head ♪ (laughing) - Oh my God. ♪ I make me a believer ♪ ♪ Believer ♪ - Yeah, I think I like that one more. - So I just feel like radio stations make these bands. It's like we just need shit to put on the radio. Can you guys exist? - There in the strip of I was like, hey guys, I wrote a song. You're like, oh cool, what's the first line? I'm like, first things first, I'm gonna say all the words inside my head. - Would you rather it be that or, chicken to China, the Chinese chicken? (laughing) - By the bear naked ladies. (laughing) By the way, we need to bring this up 'cause Nikhil was doing research on Jesse J. - Yeah. - She was one of the writers of party in the USA. We talked about this very briefly. - Yes. - Except so. - Not only that, I mean, I think she was the primary writer. - She wrote the song. - Yeah, she's like, right. - The song was her idea. And I wanna find it. - Party in the USA, it was her idea. - Well, yes, 'cause she's from Britain. - All of the lyrics are about, you know, pulling up to LAX. She talking about sitting on the wrong side of the car on the road. All this stuff they had to change from Miley Cyrus. - Yeah, they changed, I don't remember where she's from but they changed it to Nashville party. - I do love songs like that, or things, stories like that. - Emails songs, stories were like a song, a different person wrote the song. Like Ed Sheeran wrote, love yourself for Bieber. And my favorite one, the best Tiny Desk is Kat Stevens. Goes on Tiny Desk. And he wrote the first cut as the deepest. Not Rod Stewart or Sheldon Crowe. - Oh, interesting. - Kat Stevens wrote the, I love stories like that. Where it's like someone else wrote the song that you said. - I feel like there's a lot of that with. - I love Kat Stevens. - It's the best Tiny Desk. - Like Mariah Carey maybe? - I was thinking like Dolly Parton probably wrote a bunch of songs for people. - I mean, Dolly Hart and Doon, I always love you is something I didn't know for the longest time. - You know the Elvis song, right? Is there the Elvis story? - I think we talked about this on the show, yeah. - Yeah, Elvis was like, I'll do the song with you, but I'll on the song. She was like, nope. - She was badass. - But yeah, wait, I have it here to go back to Jesse Jay. The lyrics were, I jumped in the cab and the drivers on the left side, yeah, I think I'm gonna like the USA. And so they had to change it to a national party. And then the cab thing didn't make sense. - It was Essex party, says Nikhil. - Essex party. - Essex party. - I didn't get the memo. - I mean, Mariah Carey's like, everybody's so famous. I'm like, you. (laughing) - You're dead famous. - You've always been famous. Still a good song though. - You're on Sweden, you're on Hannah Montana. Well, you're already famous. We talked about it. - Literally the star of a television show. - That's make more sense now. Well, there you go, respect for Jesse Jay. - I'm breathing in the chemicals. - Whoa. - I'm sorry, I could buy everyone. (upbeat music)
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