Week 5 Waiver Wire: MUST ADD Players, Injury Replacements & Streamers (10/06 Fantasy Football Podcast)

>> This is fantasy football today from CBS sports. >> Swap away. >> Can you believe this? >> It's a no again. >> It's time to dominate your fantasy lead. >> It's to the races. >> He stays at his feet. >> He's just going to have the distance. >> Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and he. >> It's just going to be a week with a big opportunity for Dante Myers coming off seven catches for 82 yards on nine targets or will T Higgins and Jamar Chase play and asked the same question about Mike Gassicki, of course, and maybe even Mitchell Tinsley. Is this going to be a big week for Will Shipley? Because St. Juan Barclay is going to be out, Tank Bigsby. Well, likely going to be out. Tank Bigsby is on IR and they might have to activate somebody. And by the way, he's got the toughest run defense in football. But we do have plenty of players to talk about on the WaverWire for week five. Good morning, Jamie Eisenberg. >> Good morning. >> How's the WaverWire looking? >> It's going to be a very busy one. There's a lot of players to replace. We finally have buy weeks with two teams on a buy with Caroline and Kansas City. And unfortunately, just more and more injuries. >> Good morning, Dave. >> Stupid injuries and they're stupid showing up all the time in every game, everywhere. >> Also, Dave, how about Joe Mixett and Tyreek Hill in the news? >> How about it? I mean, we don't know exactly what their condition is, but the fact that Joe Mixett passed a physical and is now part of the Seahawks is interesting. And Tyreek Hill claims he's going to, or at least his agent, Rosenhaus says that he's going to sign with the team soon, which in theory means he will also be able to pass a physical. They're going to be popular Waver ads. And I think it's worth having a conversation about how, how, how you should prioritize both of them. And I think I'm going to have different answers for each. >> I would think so. Let's see if they make the top three this week. Jamie, who are your top three WaverWire priorities? Regardless of position. >> Tyreek Hill, Emmanuel Wilson, and Keon Coleman. Tyreek Hill, Emmanuel Wilson, Keon Coleman, Dave, how about you? >> If Emmanuel Wilson is still out there, he's definitely number one. And I just, I don't know if he's like a great long-term solution, but he's a good week five solution. I would have Tyreek Hill next. And then I went with Shakir over Keon Coleman and you're probably going to blame personal bias for that. But Shakir is out there in about half of CBS Sports Leagues. And I just think that he's going to see a few more targets than Keon Coleman. And he'll see a few more targets, even if DJ Moore comes back. I think if DJ Moore plays, then Keon Coleman's targets could sink a little bit. >> Now, the Rams have not given up more than 50 yards to a receiver yet, but they have allowed six touchdowns to receivers. That's who the bills are playing this week. [humming] Five wide receivers already have seven more targets against the Rams, but don't have 50 yards yet. So that's kind of wild. Keon Coleman versus Shakir, does it seem to you guys like kind of a coin flip, or do you have conviction about who's going to be the better one? Because Jamie, you said Coleman and Dave, you said Shakir. Jamie, did it feel like a coin flip to you? Like, why did you arrive on Coleman? >> DJ Moore has missed the majority of two games so far this season and Keon Coleman's playing time production. Everything has spiked in those two games. So Detroit and Week 2, and Week 4 against New England has been his two best games, and DJ Moore did not play in those games. And if we're talking targets, the targets favor Coleman over everybody else on the roster in those games. >> In this most recent game, let's see. He had seven and Shakir had eight, but in Week 2, Shakir, I don't know, he didn't do, he had six targets in that week. I don't know, I guess the targets are about even, I think. >> Oh, yeah, I'm sorry, yeah, they would be even. >> Okay, Dave, how about you, same question. >> I'd like the match up for Shakir a little bit more because he'll work the inside. He's got that slot role, whereas Keon Coleman, more of a perimeter receiver. I, listen, I'm going to admit it. I thought Keon Coleman looked great in Week 4. And just the effort that he gave on a bunch of those targets, and, you know, there was one play where he, like, tipped the ball himself and he dove for it and got the catch. And the first down, that was huge. He was perfect in his route running on his touchdown in the post-row. So, he looks, he certainly looks better than he did last year. And the only thing I'm worried about is, is he going to do the disappearing act again? Because he's done this now multiple times. In his NFL career, he has a big game. And then weeks go by and he just, he's just not a part of the offense. I think in this case, if there's no DJ more, we can expect Keon Coleman to be a part of the offense. And certainly against the Rams, he should at least earn at minimum six targets. It could be as high as eight, but I don't like his chances if he's going to be lined up against Trent McDuffey a majority of the time. And I guess one thing you could consider is, DJ Moore hasn't been ruled out, and they're playing Monday night, right? Yes. Yeah, there's a lot of moving parts with the receiver this week because of the Bangle situation. Yep. Bill situation, the charger situation, the Eagle situation. Like, there's a lot of race situation. Well, they don't play it this week. The replacements for this week. Yeah, I know a lot of people are assuming Tyree's going to the Chiefs. So, yeah, the thing is, I was saying in the two games that DJ Moore has played, fully played, Keon Coleman has three targets. You know, so if DJ Moore plays, Coleman's probably not going to do much, whereas Shakira could still have a role. But I don't know, DJ Moore like keeps hurting the shoulder, and I guess as of now, we're just not expecting him to play. Before we move on, because the top three are a Bill's wide receiver, Tyree kill and a manual Wilson in some order. Dave, what do you expect from the Seattle backfield moving forward? You've got them signing Mixon. You've got Price out at least three more games. You got Charbonne, who's going to come back soon. It seems but not this week. So maybe next week at Denver, not this week against San Francisco, make sense, try to make sense of the Seahawks backfield right now. Oh, forget about names for a second. What have we seen from what the Seattle coaching staff has preferred over the last 24 games that they've played? The bananas split. Yeah, there you go. And so no matter what the situation is, you're going to see at least two running backs, maybe even three running backs, sharing the workload. Is there a world where it's Joe Mixon and Zach Charbonne, taking turns as, you know, the running downs back and the passing downs back for the Seattle Seahawks this year? Yeah, there's a chance of that. That would be bad for Manuel Wilson, but if Manuel Wilson continues to play like he did last week, then he could be the guy and then they'd sign Joe Mixon for nothing. And then we still don't know when Price is going to come back. We don't know exactly when Charbonne is going to come back. It sounds like his return is imminent. And I know what I, I shouldn't say the words I know. I think I know what Zach Charbonne's role is going to be once he's back, which is passing down his back, goal line back. He earned that role last year, he was good in that role last year. That's the one I want, long term. I just can't get him off the waiver wire. So when I look at Joe Mixon, I don't want to get too enthralled with his name and the same thing with Manuel Wilson and Wilson is great game last week, but he might just be a short-term rental. I don't mind going after Wilson first and foremost. He's already rostered in almost two-thirds of CBS leagues, and he's certainly available more in other leagues, but just don't get too attached to any Seattle back. And if you are going to, I think Charbonne is the one to get attached to. Okay. Yeah, I can't, I just can't really see myself going and adding Joe Mixon unless it's like not once fourth or fifth waiver claim taken right. Exactly. Perfect. Perfect. We don't even know. They signed another running back to their practice squad. I got no, they, I think they promoted Robert Henry to the roster. Oh, they did. Okay. Let me double check. Yeah. So they're not going to play Charbonne or Mixon this week. And Mixon, if I saw it correctly, is currently on the practice squad. So my, my guess is either A, they don't expect Charbonne to return. Maybe the next two weeks. And Giderian price may be out longer than we think. So they're probably trying to cover those calls in the event of both price and Charbonne not being able to help them, let's say two or three weeks from now. So who knows what Joe Mixon has left to offer? Like Dave said, you know, the fact that he passes physical is a great sign. But he's, you know, in his 30s now, and I just, I just don't know what to expect. So really the, the, the thing you look at it this way is like week five manuals, as it must start running back. And then whatever else happens after that, take it for what's worth. Okay. Let me ask you this and pivot to a new topic here. Cause I think this is kind of the key question. And for waiver wires this week, it's about injuries. We've got the two bangles guys banged up chase concussion. Higgins, a doctor, muscle, we don't know if they're going to play. We've got Devante Smith out. Well, presumably out, but we don't know that they're facing Jacksonville. We've got Richie Rice, but they're on a buy DJ Moore. I think those are the big ones, right? Those three, the bills, the Eagles and the bangles. If all of those guys are out this week, how would you rank the top? Not just wide receivers, but tight ends too. How would you rank them, they'll start with you, Jamie, of, of players to get on the waiver wire this week. If all of the injured players that are impacting the waiver wire do not play this week. So like, which is the best flex option? Yeah, you got, uh, I go. So the way I had it, uh, just to give you a peek behind the scenes, I, I personally don't expect the Higgins to play. So Dave said that, But we do, we have a conversation, we have an email thread, me, Dave and Heath. And Dave said, "Tea Higgins listed as day to day." He said, "Rankham, Heath agreed." When I first did it, when I first started writing the way we were at column, I had Dante Myers as the first receiver to go get. But if we're going to go with the assumption that Tea Higgins is going to play, I don't think DJ Moore is going to play as well. So I guess I'll go Myers one, Gaseki two, Coleman three, Shakir four, Cooper five. We're putting the chiefs in this conversation for me five, no. Just those two. Okay. So Myers, Gaseki Coleman, Shakir Cooper. And again, this is if everyone that's injured misses the game. Amy put Coleman ahead of Myers, we can also, oh, I'm sorry, yeah, no, okay. You did, right? But because Dave and Heath convinced Jamie to rank Tea Higgins, it's funny. I was, I don't think it was convincing. I think it was outvoted. It's, Dave told me the story off the air because he's like, Jamie's never wrong about this stuff. And we had a two to one vote to rank Tea Higgins. So, but Dave, if everyone were out, just to give you the most recent example, they both wanted to leave Barkley out of the rank because I said, I think Barkley's going to play. This was two weeks ago, whatever it was when he, it was last week. It was last week. No, it was last week. It was this thinker. It was week three. Okay. Yeah. Come on, Dave. You know, I inspire you much confidence here. What are you talking about? It was two weeks ago. Okay, fine. It was two weeks ago until Adam, Adam Valentino brings up a good point. If Jefferson doesn't play too, forgot that one. Oh, yeah. Because T.D. Higgins got to be an energy employee. Yeah. He feels like of all the receivers who are banged up, Jefferson, maybe as the best chance to play this week? Yeah. That was another one. I would have ranked Jefferson, but they didn't want to. You never even brought that up. I think you just had it as a no, and I couldn't find anything substantial on it, so I didn't know. I didn't know. Okay. It's funny how we do go about this process. Well, we look up, we look up news. I mean, you know, it's, it's a simple, like you didn't want to wreck Jane Daniels, and I found multiple reports. Right. Exactly. Which is just like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How about you, David? Well, I feel so gross saying this, oh, Gaseki might be first, because not only do you have an opportunity to catch a bunch of targets here with him with no T Higgins and no Jamar Chase, but it's against his former team, and they've been bad against tight ends. So I might put Gaseki ahead of Dante Myers, Khalil Shakir, Keon Coleman. The thing is, like, even if only one of them missed the game, Higgins or Chase, there's still an opportunity here. Like, last year, week 13, T Higgins didn't play Mitchell, Tinsley, head nine targets, Yoshivas Kodatusha. And that was pretty much like everyone, Chase dominated, but Tinsley had nine targets. Week 15 without Higgins, it wasn't great, because Chase had 16 targets, but Tanner Hudson had five target. And that was not such a great example, but they still could, like, they still could be good. But one thing there's to keep in mind with the Bangles guys is they're probably not going to have to throw very much in this game. And that's usually the ammo for these guys being successful for the Bangles is a lot of volume, and that's going to help a lot of these players, which is what we saw against Jacksville. They couldn't run them all. And you had three guys with at least six catches, two guys with 10 catches. And that's not including Jamar Chase, who left the game very early, you know? So this is a game where they get their run game going. I mean, when it's surprised me if Chase Brown just goes absolutely nuts, and even Somajap Ryan has an opportunity to contribute as well. So, if you're chasing touchdowns, Gaseki probably has the best chance to score. Just, I don't know what Dante Myers and what his end zone, red zone opportunities will be. But yes, if, if both are missing, then I think Gaseki and Myers kind of play, which I had to rank one and two, but the two Bangles. You could easily flip Gaseki and find with that. I just think this is one of those games where we don't see Borough under a lot of duress. Or they're chasing and he's having to throw 50 plus times, or 40 plus times, or 30 plus times. Like, you know, the teams that have beat the Dolphins have just been a fish in quarterback play aside from the Vikings and minimal pass attempts, you know, 20 of 22, whatever it was, 22 of 24, you know, from homes, it was just not a lot of volume. Right. And a couple other things. The Dolphins who were facing the Bangles this week, bad against running backs, bad against tight ends, as Dave mentioned. So they are currently third best against wide receivers for whatever that's worth. And the other end, yes. So the Bangles situation would be the most appealing. However, you already heard Dave and Jamie have a Bill's wide receiver as their top receiver to get because as of right now, we feel more confident that DJ Moore will miss this week's game as opposed to both Bangles wide receivers. Both of them could play. Both of them could sit. One could play one could sit. There are a lot of moving pieces just in Jefferson's same situation. And Devote Smith, yeah, we really heard much could be a multi-week absence there. And you got to think about that as like Don Tavian Wicks was the guy that we like last week. If we were going to choose one, he was third on the team in targets, right? This could always have like, could be a tinsley game. But he ran the most routes, though, so that's something just to, but they all ran a lot of routes, right? Yeah. I mean, look, he threw for 93 yards. They're down six starters if everybody misses this week. It's just an absolute disaster for the Eagles, you know, so I don't know when you want to talk about well, Shipley, but, you know, pun intended, he's the last running back standing on the Titanic. There's just a disaster here for this entire roster with three offensive linemen missing. And the top two running backs missing, the top tight end missing, the top receiver missing, like there's, this is against Jacksonville, you know, which, you know, may have a top five defense. And as you said, the best run defense in the NFL. So like to look at Darius Cooper and to look at even McIleman, who's 56% rostered, but even Don Tavy and Wicks, you know, I, I went back and forth on, do I put them in the shallow league mentions that I put in the column because like who's going to want to play Don Tavy Wicks? Now Cooper is more of like a desperation play, but if I'm an attend team league, I'm not starting Don Tavy and Wicks this week, I just can't do it. You know, so it, it just feels, everything feels awful about the Eagles. Not maybe they go out and they shocked the Jaguars because it's the NFL and every week is a different season. I just can't see it right now. Like they just look like an absolute mess. Yeah. Jaguars have been pretty bad against number one receivers, Denzel Boston caught a touchdown a week one. Jalen Waddle, big game, Mac Hollins had a good game, T Higgins had a big game. So that's the only thing that's been kind of a vulnerability for them. But you know, I, it's hard to trust the Eagles and you don't even know which one to trust. And yeah, I think we should talk about Will Shipley. We should talk about Fab dollars. We're going to talk about it after this break. We'll give you the top three at each position. I have a big correction to make from yesterday's podcast. I have to apologize for profusely and your news and a lot of news and notes, but I don't know if Lamar Jackson is going to play this week. And you're going to need some quarterbacks because two must start guys right now, basically my homes and young are on by and maybe Lamar Jackson out as well. I kept writing and erasing, writing and erasing and your notes for our CBS Sports Network show of our top three, Jacobi Recett, because to me, he feels like a safer top three guy than the pickup bills receiver or another receiver because like you just said, there's potentially three quarterbacks missing this week that are must start guys. We'll be right back after this and break it down for you on fantasy football today. This episode is brought to you by Woop, the wearable health and fitness coach that gives you personalized insights into your sleep, recovery, strain and overall health so that you can make decisions aligned with your daily goals. 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But those two guys are ahead of Shipley for me. That's more of a rest of season thing in the case of Mitchell over Shipley. If you just need a guy for a week, it would be Shipley over Mitchell. But I'm still liking what I see from Keaton Mitchell with the chargers and I'm nervous about what we'll get for one week, maybe two weeks out of Will Shipley. I kind of want to avoid it. So the only thing that I think for Shipley, if you are looking at it for me, would be long term because Bixby is going to be out for at least four games and at least the report on Barclay as week to week. Carolina Week 6 and Dallas Week 7, like those are much easier matchups than what he's dealing with this week against Jacksonville. You hope by then, I don't know what the Lane Johnson situation is going to be, but maybe they start to get their offensive line a little bit better. Maybe they get Smith back. Maybe they get gotter back and there's a little bit more respect for the passing game. That would be the hope for me because I do not want to play well shiply this week. So I would not be investing a lot of fab at all in him. But if you just are look, okay, my week six situation is this. My back feels just an absolute disaster and I need something for maybe the next two or three weeks. And again, it could be a waste because Barclay could play. But at least there's a chance that you are getting a starting running back. It's kind of similar to the Dolphins situation last week and look. A separate conversation clearly worked out. Terrible team, backups came in and tough match up played well. Maybe the same thing happens for shiply. Yeah, one of my fears with shiply is that they just don't trust him to be a true running back. And they elevate Damian Pierce and Damian Pierce leads the team and carries. And they just keep shiply in the change of pace role. So I think that's on the table. We'll see who they elevate. Maybe it's Jade on blue and that's not quite as threatening, I guess. And then this question from the chat, should I pick up Jeremiah Lobs back up Tyler Algier? Is he a top waiver wire at this week? And I got to bring it up. Love has an ankle injury. He heard his ankle during the game, his other ankle, not the one he hurt in the preseason. So it doesn't seem like he's going to miss time, but he's going to be on the injury report. I mean, he said he was fine after the game, you know, so I didn't include him. I probably go back and add him, but I haven't listed in the handcuffs to stash it. It's certainly worth exploring. Yeah, he might be the goal line back. Win or no, week three, week three Algier was not the goal line back. Sure, my love was everything week four down back to what's that? He's definitely there back to Michael Plur said as much after the game. They're passing down his back and they're goal line guy. Yeah, well, he didn't see the goal line part. His usage in week four certainly suggested that. So last week was a big fab week. So Ali Gordon and some other guys go for at least 25, 30% routinely. Jamie, how about this week of fab? I think it comes down to what you need because there's a lot of different moving parts for this week. I wouldn't go crazy with the backup receivers because there's not. It doesn't appear to be long-term absences for DJ more for the bangles guys. At least that's what we hope. For Justin Jefferson, you know, that these guys presumably could all return. For week five, I think the one that I would spend a lot on if he's still available to be a manual Wilson because he can win you a week this week. I don't think San Francisco just goes around defenses one, you fear. And Wilson just showed you everything that you want from a CEO. He basically like Ken Walker in the playoffs. I know not to the same extent or the same type of player, but production was amazing. 27 PPR points. So it could also be a short term solution or short term answer because of as we just alluded to. So Arbonne's return, Mixen's signing, etc., etc. Quarterbacks, there's Jacoby Bristets, my favorite one. But if you miss on Berset, there's Kerr Cousins. If you miss on Cousins, there's Aaron Rogers. If you miss on Rogers, there's Sam Donald, they're just on Watson or any of these guys. So it doesn't feel like there's one that's a huge standout over the other. Berset would be my favorite for his matchup and usually what he gives you. But I wouldn't go crazy, you know, spending fab there. And then Tydenne is kind of the same scenario here of Gaseki. It would be the one I would try to get first. We know how that can go again if the bangles are healthy. And then I thought Tyler Higby, you know, for what it's worth given the fact that Pucco is healthy. Matthew Starr was going to throw a lot. And I think you're going to get quality production, maybe not a lead production, but quality enough production. But that position also, you know, if you don't get Higby, there's Brent and Strange is coming. You know, I think that the bangles more than anything else. But you got Brent and Strange. You got Hunter Henry. You have Michael Mayer now, who I think is going to be a thing for the Raiders. Like there's just a lot of different pivot plays here at the position. I think that if you want to talk about fab given two teams on a buy and Lamar, Tyler Huntley might get spent, the most money spent, the most fab spent, and something like that to quarterback. All right, I got to correct something that I said yesterday on the box score episode. And it's relevant to this show. I don't know what happened. I don't know. I can't even explain how the error happened if I did something wrong or the data was wrong. I gave out some route participation rates that were just way off. I said, Nico Collins ran half the routes. He ran 90% of the routes. And I said, Antonio Williams, this is where it really sparked from. As I was like, man, Antonio Williams had eight targets last week or something like that. He had a long touchdown call back. And maybe he's someone you look at this week if McLaren's out again. But he only ran, I don't know, it was like 40% of the routes or something. But no, that is not true. He ran more than 70% of the routes, Antonio Williams. So I thought that was actually pretty encouraging and getting Daniel's back. That could be a player that you look at in three received leagues this week if McLaren doesn't play. So apologies for that. I don't know what the heck happened there. Your news and notes, again, Lamar Jackson's got the ankle injury. They're at Atlanta. This could be a fun game. And he may not play. So Jamie already mentioned Tyler Huntley. I think about 17-18 points in both of his starts last year. In six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues. Marcus Mario does going to miss some time. But Jaden Daniel is going to practice in full this week. And hopefully play against the New York Giants. And Tyson Begent will start for the Bears. Sekwan Barkley, you know, about him and Bigsby. Kyle Menongai is day-to-day with the thumb injury. So it looks like we dodged a bullet there with Menongai. And man, Dave, who do you think is the best Bears running back this week at Green Bay? Still swift. I would expect them to go back to a drive-by-drive rotation. And they might have even been doing that already last week. I don't know. I didn't go back and check that stat. Maybe you guys did. But I think swift is still the 1A. Let's call it that. And Menongai is the 1B. All right. Just don't fumble, Deandre Swift. Jeremiah Love tweaked his other ankle. But yet, we already mentioned that. He should be fine. And Green Bay running back. Chris Brooks has an ankle injury. And Rico Dowdell could play this week against the Colts. And Mike McCarthy says he and Jalen Warren will be a one-two punch. We're thinking Warren's still the better option. And hopefully a really good option this week. And Zach Sharman is not going to play this week in the Seahawks sign. Joe Mixon and Robert Henry Jr. And Kyle Eust check has a knee injury. He's weak to weak, I believe. I haven't seen anything on Ramondra Stevenson. I think he's healthy. He was talking in the media after the game. And there's no reports about any type of injury. We'll see what happens Wednesday. But for now, I think Ramondra is going to play. Rishi Rice injure. They have a buy, thankfully. But DJ Moore shoulder. Jamar Chase concussion. T Higgins, a doctor. Tyree Kills going to sign. Looks like in the next few days. Buzz is Kansas City. We'll see what happens. Jalen Lane for the commanders. He's got a serious injury. He's out. Jordan Tyson is a few weeks away from returning. Tank Dell is going to start practicing. Jamie, what's your interest level in adding Tank Dell? Minimal. He's going to do more for the Texans than he will for fantasy. Taikwan Thornton is out for the regular season. And Mac Holland's calf injury. And Lad Makonky foot injury. You know what? Forgot about that one. When we were talking about the chargers receivers. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. Dave, how did the chargers receivers stack up with the bangles and eagles? It's a bills, guys. I'm coming around on Trey Harris. And if we're talking maybe rest of season, then he's somebody you could slide in. Maybe ahead of them all. If it's just for this week, he's going to be behind the bills, guys. But I think that he's got a chance to kind of earn more targets than Quentin Johnson. He's making fewer mistakes than Johnson is. And he's kind of interesting. If Makonky's out, I think Trey Harris would be maybe a number three fantasy receiver. And the reason why I hesitated on Tank Dell about a minute ago is because I think back to how good of a connection he had with CJ Stroud when the two were playing as rookies. And it's been a while since they've both been on the field a lot. And I don't know how much Tank Dell will play, at least coming back from his very serious injury. But maybe there's something there. And Stroud for what it's worth has been throwing the ball. Overall, I'd say better than expected this year. And so maybe I shouldn't just poo poo Tank Dell and say that in deeper leagues, he is worth a bench spot. Oh, well, we got big news here from Ian Rappaport. What's happening? Lamar Jackson, not like huge news. Sorry, I don't mean to scare people. But Lamar Jackson, he's got a sprain ankle, gives him only an outside chance to play on Sunday, according to sources for Ian Rappaport. Jackson could end up missing multiple games based on how the rehab goes, but the injury is not considered long-term or surgical. Well, damn, that sucks. You've got to think that's going to impact, say, flowers a little bit too. Yeah, but there's no way you're sitting him. No, but I don't think you rank him as a top five receiver. It's a bad week for receivers. That's why you're going to rank him probably as a top 12 receiver. Where do you, where do I'm ranked, James? I think around 10. Yes, it's just hard to get away from still what he is. And his numbers without Lamar Jackson, understandably so have been bad. But different offense, he's playing great. Hopefully he comes through. You know, maybe he has the, if we're going to call it ZSN, maybe he has the ZSN. What did I say? ZSN. You said Z. It's said of Z. Oh, ZSN. Well, ZSN is his name, sorry. ZSN is his initial. He's initial, sorry. Anyway, it hopefully has ZN Flowers game like Smith and Jigba had with Drillock. That'd be awesome. Games. I'll take a look and see how many times a receiver had, let's call it 15 PPR points with Huntly. Okay. And Huntly's life. And his life back to the middle school. It wasn't a terrible week for like long-term injuries that running back are receiver necessarily. Like last week was, but it was pretty bad at offensive line. and Rashon Slater is going to miss some time. Joe Alts injures the Chargers offensive line. They're facing a Bronco's team that's going to be missing, definitely Sir Tann and maybe both of their starting corners, but their offensive line is so beat up. I don't even know if it matters. Paris Johnson left tackle for the Cardinals. He's out for the season. Also their right guard, I say Adam's left in injury. I don't know the status there, but Cardinals lose their left tackle for the season and Minnesota loses their guard, Donovan Jackson, for the season. All right, let's get to the top three at each position. Well, Dave is looking up that Tyler Huntly stat. Let's see what Jamie's top three quarterbacks are. I know it's Jacobi Berset and then who else? Berset would be one. Cousins would be two and Rogers would be three. And are Cousins and Rogers good week five plays or are these bench players or like? They're in the mix. I mean, look, Cousins doesn't have an easy matchup, but so what? He's been 19.8 fantasy points or more in all four games this season and he's just playing fantastic right now. Kubiacs system has been great. And the last two games with Brock Bowers in the field has been fantastic. So I know the Patriots are tough defense. He's got to go across the country to play them. So I wouldn't have high expectations for him, but if I don't have Bryce Young over at home and I just lost Lamar Jackson and then I can't get Berset, this is the pivot play that I would make. And hopefully he just stays hot and maybe has another opportunity to throw the ball well in this game against Patriots. And then for Rogers, look back to back games of 24 points, 26 points, whatever it is. I'll tell you a second. I think it might be 24. 27.9 points, excuse me. Oh, I know, excuse me. I need to the last two games. And this cult defense, I don't think, is very good. So hopefully Rogers has another opportunity to play well for a third straight game. So they're not like, oh my God, I really want to start Cousins or Aaron Rogers. But you know, you might be desperate in looking at some of the other options on waivers. I think these for the majority of leagues are the two best guys you can find if you can't get Berset. Did I not hear the name Jamis Winston? So Jamis will be fourth for me. I think just looking at it as another great matchup. But I'm going to trust the way that those two guys have played more so than I trust Jamis. But he's right behind them. So you look at, I don't know how you haven't ranked. I have them almost back to back to back. So Jamis has such a high ceiling, but such a low floor. It's just, you know, which Jamis is going to show up. But yes, absolutely, Jamis should be in the conversation. I didn't know if you wanted me to get more than three items. But the top three is fine. And by the way, Aaron Rodgers back to back games with more than 25 fantasy points and six point for passing touchdown leagues for the first time since he won the MVP in 2021. There were 57 games in between. The last time he scored 25 or more fantasy points in consecutive games. Aaron Rodgers, pretty cool. All right, running back. Dave, who are the top three running backs to get? Assuming a manual Wilson is available, he's numero uno. I've got Keaton Mitchell behind him, and I've got Will Shipley third. OK. And Jamie, let's go to wide receivers then. Yeah, buckle up. It's again, assuming the injuries are what they are and we're expecting T Higgins to play. First would be Tyree Kill, just with the assumption that he's going to sign with the Chiefs and hopefully is healthy and hopefully can play a big role. But I think long term he has the most upside of probably anybody in this list. Coleman would be second. And I have, if you read the story, I have Coleman and Shakir kind of packaged together. So I wouldn't necessarily put him third, but Coleman and Shakir together and then Dante Meyers and Mitchell Tinsley are also together in the story. But if you're just looking at the three individual players, Hill would be one. Coleman would be two. Meyers would be three. But there's just a whole group of guys that are sort of bunched together that you can sort of mix and match depending on who's healthy and what you need. Short term versus long term. I think we should talk a little bit about Dante Meyers because he's a 26 year old rookie with a fun story. But Dave, he looked really good out there and he had seven catches for 82 yards. And when you compare him to like Mitchell Tinsley, Mitchell Tinsley had a game with nine targets last year had 22 yards. He had a game with seven targets last year. He had three catches for 49 yards. He had a six target game. He had two catches, 29 yards, and a touchdown. It's really all we can go off. It's small sample stuff. But Meyers just looked really good out there and does he need both guys to be out in order to be start worthy or do you think Dante Meyers is a start if only one of those receivers misses the game? He needs both guys out to be start worthy. And that's why it's hard to rank him high unless you're a T Higgins manager and you've got T on your team and you're worried about T not playing or you're believing that T Higgins, the late fourth quarter injury that he had is going to keep him out. And again, what we're talking about this on a Tuesday morning, they haven't had a practice yet this week. If he doesn't practice by Thursday, you could start T, if T doesn't practice by Thursday, then you could start to get really encouraged by Dante Meyers. Like the talent a lot, I think he'll play a lot. I just think the way that offenses have operated against Miami this year have been lots of running, lots of short area passing, not a ton of volume to wide receivers in part because they don't have to, the Alphans aren't pushing teams on the other side. So as my buddy PropSARS would say, they are not a good dance partner when it comes to getting numbers up, whereas Jacksonville was a good dance partner for Cincinnati to keep throwing. And that's why Meyers had nine targets for seven and 82 last week and also it helped that Jamar Chase left the game. All right, then you know what they have? I'm going to give you the top tight ends and ask the same question about Micah Sikki. Does he need both of the guys to be out in a good matchup for tight ends 'cause I assume he's number one. So who are your top three at tight end? It's really close between Gisikki and TJ Hockinson and it's obviously contingent on players on their own teams missing the game. You're not going to be interested in TJ Hockinson if Justin Jefferson plays and you're not going to be interested in Gisikki. If T Higgins plays and Jamar Chase gets through the concussion protocol and ends up playing against Miami, the only reason why I have Gisikki hires because we have seen a sample of him when one of the wide receivers are out getting some good target volume. It's not consistent. It's not every single time, but it's a lot of the time. And for whatever reason, Joe Burrow looks for him in the red zone. We've seen it a couple of times. We saw last week for Cry Not Loud. And Gisikki touched down on three of his last four games, taking on his former team. Not going to get a ton of targets, but Micah three catches and find the end zone. Not a top 10 type of fantasy tight end. I don't even love saying it, but I just think the matchup is a little bit better for him whereas I'm not sure if I'm ready to trust TJ Hockinson to get a ton of targets for the second week in a row. - Jamie's third guy is Higby. How do you feel about that? - Mine too. - Mine too. And to be honest, you can make the argument for any of these three to be the top tight end to go get off the waiver wire. And at least in the case of Higby, okay, we know that Pukinaku is gonna play and we know that Devata Adams is going to play. We look at that matchup against Buffalo. We see that terrible Buffalo defense. We see their past rush, which is just at best okay. And you think there's gonna be a ton of point score that the Rams are gonna have their way and find a way to 30 points and you're gonna wanna start players on the Rams and Higby's one of those guys that gets a good amount of targets. I've got your Huntley numbers whenever you wanna hear him. - Oh, they're your Huntley numbers, baby. Let's hear him. - They're Tyler Huntley's numbers and they're not good. So it's not like he's made a ton of starts since 2021, but the best wide receiver with Tyler Huntley is Tyreek Hill in 2024 with the Dolphins. 19.5 PPR fantasy points he needed nine targets to do it. The next best is Richard Bateman in 2021. With the Baltimore Ravens, he had 17.3 PPR points that was on eight targets. The third best wide receiver is Hollywood Brown in 2021 with 14.3 PPR points. He needed 14 targets to do that. Zayflowers is on this list. He's number four, 14.1 PPR points on nine targets. So if Zayflowers is gonna get a lot of targets, Tyler Huntley's gonna look for him. Sure, he's got a chance to finish as a top. This is called like an 18 wide receiver. If we're talking about 14 PPR points, but that's it. Those are the only four receivers. In Tyler Huntley, I'll get the number of starts if you want 'em. Who have had 14 plus PPR points. The guy who's really done well is Mark Andrews. And even a lot of those games you've gotta go back. You've gotta go back several years. - All right. - So it's not great. - Okay, yeah, I gave the stat yesterday. It's the most amazing stat. We'll do DSTs in a second. Zayflowers has run 45 routes with Lamar Jackson. What is that? Okay, how does that compare? That's a big week. There are 11 wide receivers who ran 45 routes in week four alone. But this year Zayflowers has run 45 routes with Lamar Jackson on the field. And he has scored 65.3 PPR points in those 45 routes. That's a game, that's like a game's worth of routes for some times, not for a Ravens receiver typically. But think about that. Think about if Devon Vale or any of the wide receivers that ran 45 or more routes, the 11 of them that did it. Like T Higgins did it this week. 65.3 PPR points, that's how good Zayflowers has been. But Jamie, we're here to talk about the waiver wire and we're here to talk about DSTs. 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And now they're taking on a Philadelphia team that could be down six starters to running back their best pass catcher, a best wide receiver, their best tight end. It's just ugly for the Eagles right now. And I think you're going to get great production from Jacksonville's DST. And again, you might be able just to stick with them for the rest of the season. That was coverage you can count on sponsored by Nationwide. Nationwide is so much more than a great insurance company than one of America's largest financial companies to take your game to the next level with Nationwide for your insurance and financial needs. Nationwide is on your side. Nationwide investment services corporation member Finra Columbus Ohio. And finally Jamie the kickers. Everybody loves the kickers. I would go with Chris Boswell against the Colts. They've been bad against opposing kickers. We got, how do you pronounce the Giants? Oh, Dominic Zavada, the reason the Giants are three and one. This kid is really good. Really good. Yeah. He second. He second for me, but you want to make him first. That's fine. Cameron Dicker against the Broncos. And then Harrison Meebus against the bills. Love it. Okay. And we're going to take a break. Shallow League's deep leagues. I think we owe Tyrick Hill a little bit more time. Let's talk about him when we come back. And we'll be right back on. I think we'll be talking about him a lot next year. Yeah. But you know, how good. He be coming off this injury and at his age we'll discuss after this. Tyrick Hill is 32 years old. He's coming off a dislocated knee and multiple torn ligaments in a gruesome injury in week four. He's playing pretty well at the time. 100 yards in week two, five for 49 and a touchdown at the bills in week three. And then in about a half, six for 67 on six targets against the Jets. He still looked pretty damn good, pretty fast last year. How much fab would you spend on him and what are your expectations for Tyrick Hill? Obviously, we don't know where he's going to sign the buzzes, the chiefs. But how good do you think he could be? I don't want to waste too much fab. I'm thinking it's got to be around somewhere between 15 and 20 percent. So it's a lot. It's a chunk. But we know what he's capable of doing. The only problem is if you look at his last two years with the dolphins and granted it's the dolphins, his average in fantasy is not great. It's below 14 ppr points per game. And is that what we're going to get? Well, in this day and age, that's probably somebody that we would look at as a low end number two wide receiver, high end number three. But more importantly, that's a starter. And it's someone that I'd be okay with thinking that once he's back with a team, hopefully with a core competent quarterback, he can be in my line up and earn some targets and not be 100 percent of himself, but 80 percent of himself. And that's kind of the floor view. You know what the ceiling view is? Somehow he's made his way back into being the old Cheetah and he's with Patrick Mahomes and he's the number one target in Kansas City. And boy, defenses are going to be in a huge bind because who do you take out first between Tyree Kill and Kenneth Walker the third and defenses are already playing differently against the chiefs than they had before? And Tyree Kill can potentially crush them. But that's if he's the old Tyree Kill. And we just don't know. We've seen him running in sand. His legs look strong. We don't know anything else. But again, in theory, he's going to sign with a team. He's going to pass a physical. He's going to get acclimated to an offense. And there's real potential for him to be a starter for your fantasy team rest of season. Okay. Jamie, let's talk about the shallow league guys. Some of the best shallow league options. I think obviously Zach Sharbonne is someone. Josh, take a look. Just see if Josh Jacobs is available. Zach Sharbonne as well. Who else? CJ Stroud, Dave alluded to this earlier Stroud. With two games on Nico Collins, averaging 23.8 fantasy points. So the way this defense is performed, this might not be the week because of the Titans. But he's clearly been asked to do a lot more than I think the Texans would like. And I'm sure fantasy managers have expected. But he's been a pleasant surprise when he's had his number one receiver. Don't love Sam Donald particularly this week. But he does have the opportunity to continue to play at a very high level based on what we've seen so far. So Donald is certainly within. I'm sorry. I do like Donald. I don't like Donald's upcoming schedule. After this week, he gets a lot more challenging. But those are two quarterbacks that you should pivot to again if you're missing some guys. Running back has some pretty interesting names. It's not the most highly available guys. So I kind of extended a little bit. Usually I try to cut it off at 80%. But you got to album Camara at 33%. It wasn't a great game. But he discord to touchdowns. Kendrae Miller fumbled. Sharbonne, like you mentioned, 82%. Jordan Mason is one week away from coming back. Well, two weeks away. One game away from coming back because they're by as week six. But Jordan Mason, maybe somebody that long term could be someone you want to have on your roster. Obviously, Ollie Gordon should be at it. We're available with the way that he just played and looking like he's the dolphins guy for the foreseeable future. And then we got the report going into week four about Woody Marx getting more work. It didn't necessarily translate in week four, but Dave Montgomery just continues to struggle. So that's an easy one to just pick up and stash and see what you have from him moving forward. A wide receiver. There's a couple of names that you should definitely be picking up. Look, first off, we don't know 100% that it's going to be the chiefs. So Xavier worthy could be the healthiest chiefs receiver coming out of their by week. He should be added at least at this point, wherever available, he's 74% rostered. Devon Valey, another big game last night was a garbage time touchdown, but he had some big catches. And I thought, I think as long as Jordan Tyson remains out, like you said earlier, it's going to be a few weeks away until he's available. So Devon Valey now three games out of four with at least 11.4 PPR points. And Romeo Dobbs coming off his big game with nine targets and two touchdowns. He's going to be relevant for the Patriots until until AJ Brown returns. And then a tight end, Mark Andrews is probably the one you want to go get first 82% rostered. He should have an opportunity with Tyler Huntley to get a few hopefully extra targets and just, you know, some of those easy throws that they'll probably want Huntley to make. So you'd rather have Andrews than Sadeek? I would rather have Andrews than Sadeek for this week. And so I think you're going to see Sadeek just dropped in a lot of leagues because people just look at production. Geno Smith through what 13 passes in that game and whatever was 17 passes in the game. Eight targets went to both Garrett Wilk so he's still going to get opportunities. It's just a matter of can you carry can you carry him with just based on potential? So if you can afford to carry two tight ends, I wouldn't want to start Sadeek this week. I don't want to see it. At least one more time. But I just hope it's not going to be what we see with these great matchups like these guys take advantage of great situations and then they don't perform at that same level again. Man, you were so close twice 15 pass attempts for Geno Smith. I got it. I got a neighborhood. Yeah. We took the average. Okay. Okay. I don't know why I talk like that. Devon Bailey, you know, his target share is really not that impressive. But Tyler Schuck has the most pass attempts in football and it's not even close. Tyler Schuck has 180. Next up is Stafford, Embrace Young and Jared Goff at 162 or 161. So he has 18 more pass attempts Tyler Schuck than any quarterback right now. So they lay, you know, that's probably going to come down a little bit. He's not going to average 44, whatever, 45, yeah, 45 pass attempts per game. But Bailey, I'd like to see the target share be higher, but it should still be a lot of target. Good enough. All right. Bailey, I picked Devon Bailey up in the preseason. None of these guys are available in Madhig with the deep limits. Why do I laugh every week? I don't know why, but I do. I think it's funny. All right. Let's talk about James Winston for a quick second. He's taking on the commanders before last week. They allowed at least 30 fantasy points to every quarterback that they faced. And then they took on Daniel Jones and Daniel Jones was a total mess. And look, I watched James play and maybe his release was a little bit faster, but really he took advantage of a favorable matchup, and he's going to have another one this week against Washington. So I kind of dig, James. I would rather have Berset too, but I think that James is in play as a low-end starter this week. If you're really hurting for a quarterback, you can't get your hands on Jacobi Berset. James Winston who's available in 89% of CBS leagues would be the guy Rodgers right behind him. And maybe if you're looking for somebody rest of season, Rodgers is ahead of James because I don't know how much longer James will be the quarterback. As Rodgers is definitely going to be the quarterback of Pittsburgh, as long as he's healthy. And he may not see a tough defense. You can look at their schedule and check me out on that. I mean, he plays Cleveland, but week 12 Denver, if the Broncos are healthy by then, there's a lot of favorable matchups coming up for Aaron Rodgers. At running back, we're assuming that Wilson, Keaton Mitchell are already rostered. Will Shipley is available in 98% of leagues. He would be the first guy to look at Joe Mixon would be up there too. But I wonder if Austin Eccler will get attention. And I thought he looked pretty good as a part-time role player for Washington. And maybe it's just because he had fresh legs and a month from now, he might not look quite as good. But he'll at least get on the field before Joe Mixon. So if you're really in a pinch for running back and you can't get your hands on Shipley, maybe Eccler is the next guy you go after. And again, 96% available. I don't know how much I'd buy into Kamani Videll now making it a three-head monster with the Chargers. But he also, he started the game for LA and he didn't look half bad. He's kind of a desperation running back ad. He's out there in 94% of leagues. We talked about Tyrick Hill. We talked a little bit about Trey Harris. I like him better than Quentin Johnson moving forward. Kam, Coleman is available in over 80% of leagues. So he makes a lot of sense. Talked about Dante Myers. If there's another wide receiver who's available in 90% plus leagues to talk about, it's Aaron Rogers, new number two receiver and it's Roman Wilson. Six targets in every game, touchdown and at least 15 PPR points in each of his last two games. displaced Michael Pittman as their number two wide receiver in that offense. And then a tie to end. It's Gisicke and it's Higby. Hockinson's available in about two thirds of leagues, but Gisicke and Higby, they're out there at about 80% of leagues. If you're in one of these tight end premium leagues where Gisicke and Higby are already rostered, Darnell Washington's been running about half the routes each of the last two games and they seem to have like plays designed for Darnell Washington. It's good for about three catches a week. Yeah, and he can rumble with them. So it's only in those super deep, you know, tight end premium leagues. He's barely rostered. And then there's also with Roman Wilson just wanted to add that the Colts give up the second most receiving yards to slot receivers. So that's based that's mostly where Roman Wilson lines up. And there was a shallow lead guy. I don't know if you mentioned him. He's 89% rostered. Jaden Daniels. He's could be back. Should be back this week. He was dropped. Yeah, I'm practicing full 89% rostered and, you know, he doesn't had a lot of good production over the last two years, but he has left so many games early. And week one was a startable game for him. He did fine. And week two, he scored 16 points at half time. So, you know, right. Jaden Daniels is I saw him picked up on a few leagues last week. I just take a look because I didn't bother taking a look. I forgot. But you just always scan. If you're on CBS, go to the most rostered page, sort by free agents. And you'll see, you know, some guys that slip through the cracks that are 89% rostered. Especially with the bi weeks because they're not going to get projections. Exactly. Great call. Great call. All right, Dave. I'm sorry. Well, whoever. I don't care. Any quick thoughts on Atlanta and thumping the Saints here, but this game 45, 24. Any thoughts on that? I mean, the offensive line for New Orleans was a disaster. And so bad news coming this week because of what Brian for is going to throw a Tyler talk. They just can't run the ball. You know, so it's just a matter of if they get behind, it's those, those past rushers and they're coming from every angle are just going to pin their ears back and come right after Tyler shock. And he seemed to have some sort of hand injury. They were talking about some broadcast his left hand. So hopefully he's fine. But he took a beating in that game. I know he didn't take a lot of sacks, but he took a beating in that game. And they couldn't stop the run. You know, so hopefully that's a positive sign for Aaron Jones on the other side of the ball. I think just looking at it as right now, another guy that we barely haven't mentioned is Brian Robinson. It's been three quality games for him in a secondary role. And he's got four touchdowns now, three of them last night, but four touchdowns in his last two games. So there's a chance for him to be in the flex conversation, very similar to what we talk about with Blake Korum and Tribion Henderson and these high end backups that play a lot, he's actually producing. So Pentax is another quarterback, like he looks great. He's just not throwing a lot and getting a lot of, you know, he hasn't had a multiple touchdown game yet and the two stars that he had, but he looks like just very confident and, you know, not a huge game for Drake London, but he hits the big play to John Dottson late in the game. I just think right now the Falcons look scary. The defense looks great. Saints just really, you know, took a huge step back in my mind. I thought that they were going to play well. I think, you know, we I had Tyler stuck in the start of the week. We all had Chuck at the top three or three top five quarterback. And so just a huge letdown and not what you want to see going up against the Minnesota for this week. Look, it was a little unlucky. You don't expect the way the teams have running the ball. You don't expect Alvin Camarra to have two short yardage touchdowns. That was annoying. Those could have been passing touchdowns. He's averaging 45 pass attempts per game, as I mentioned. Michael Pentax has made two starts and he has thrown a combined 45 passes and yet Drake London a bad game yesterday for him 96 yards. Five catches for 96 yards for Drake London. Kyle Pitz played like half the snaps. He got benched. I think he's going to play more going forward. They kind of talked about it on the broadcast. They didn't really know why he was bench at the beginning of the game. But, you know, look, he had they designed a few plays for him. They lined him up and full back and threw a ball to him. Drop or keep Kyle Pitz, 79% rostered. He's justified holding him at this point when we have so many injuries and so many teams dealing with replacement options. So, like, what's the point? They are going to have to throw more. I don't know about this week because Lamar is not going to play it seems. Baltimore, Chicago, San Francisco, the next three weeks. I think they're going to have to throw more. I don't know. Their run game looks so good right now that maybe they won't. But, and then, yeah, Matthews, they're starting left. He missed most of the game. I don't know what the deal was there. I wanted to watch, but that's a defense that I certainly thought wasn't going to be good coming into the year. And then you notice pretty quickly in week one. Hey, they actually have some dudes up front acquiring Dervon Dexter was big. And they're going to be tough to run on for sure. He talked about it last week too. And it's just something to keep in mind moving forward that this Atlanta team, they've got a lot of fundamentals that they're very good at. Somehow they have a great pass rush. They have the third best, third highest pressure rate in the NFL with all the injuries and suspensions they've had at defensive end. It's crazy. How many sacks do they have? If you don't know, I'll look it up right now. They have only seven sacks. So they haven't said they're getting pressure, but they're not getting to the quarterback per se. Right. The only sacks shook twice last night, but you watched the game. They obviously, right. He was running through his life. They had a move in all over the place. Exactly. All right. Drop-o-meter, zero to 10. Chris Godwin. Nine. Ten. Ameca Buka. Zero. Six. Jakory Kroski merit. One. Three. Make a break game for him against a Giants. Gotta be good. Dalton Schultz. Shot white might be back and they've got Austin Eckler there. I don't know how much work he's going to get. Yeah, we got to say. And he might get like 11 touches. Dalton Schultz. Eight. Brian Thomas Jr. Ten. Four. Jacobi Myers. Zero. Four. Corlan Sutton. Two. It was a ten before the Pep Ryan injury. So now I would say it's a five. Fair. Justin Herbert. Ten. Five. The dude is still rostered in 83% of leagues. He's sat being started. Broncos chiefs and a by Rams Texans. Like, come on. Why are we holding him? And his offensive line is a mess again. It may not have his number on receiver. It's just like, what are you doing? Broncos might be a decent matchup this week, but not for him. Not with those offensive line injuries. All right. To go through the quarterbacks here, the shallow league guys were Stroud and Darnell. Do you like percent better than both of them, Jamie? I like percent better than both of them this week. Yes. All right. Strouds got the Titans. They've been. They're only fifth. They're fifth best against quarterbacks. I don't really know if I buy it, but that's what it's been so far. You know, it's funny for for a division opponent. He's missed so many games against them. Stroud has. Interesting. And Sam Darnell. You know, the Niners have been pretty good so far. And then he's at the Broncos chiefs. Darnell is pretty like pretty damn good. He's still very efficient. He scored 17 points last week with 22 pass attempts. So it could be something here, but when he is a good matchup, he's really good. Yeah, almost 600 yards in his last two games combined in six touchdowns. So he's a he's a serviceable low end guy. Like I would start per set over him. I would start Stroud over him. I start Rogers over him. I'd start Winston over him. Like there's there's ways to cousins over him. Yeah. But what about Jalen Hertz? I would not start Jalen Hertz at all. Jacoby Brissett, Kirk Cousins and Aaron Rodgers and then James Winston. Those were the top four. How many of them would you start over Drake May this week? Well, I go back to me. I think it looked good last week. And again, schedule starting to lighten up a little bit. I know the Raiders are tougher than we thought, but I would pivot back to Drake May. So Brissett, I would start over him. And that's it. It wasn't even like as far as completion rakeos, it wasn't even his best game of the year. He didn't even complete 60% of his passes. I just felt like they did a good job of getting him on the move. And that might have unlocked him a little bit. And he had his timing down with Romeo Dobbs. I'm with you, Jamie. I'm encouraged by Drake May, but I would still rather start for set. I thought Drake May looked great, but I think to pass rush for the Raiders is really, really legit. I know. And it bothered him when they played last year. It was the first game of the year. So they're going to need to do something to make sure that Max Crosby doesn't ruin his day. Deshan Watson scored only 15 fantasy points last week, but he had scored 23 or more each of the previous two weeks. He gets the jets. He runs. I know that we wasn't a great game against Pittsburgh, but Juddkins had a good game. I wasn't that bad of a game. All right. Sean Watson's still an option. Yeah, he's in the conversation. You say he runs 22 brushing yards or more and all four games. He's actually lowered his average. He was averaging 35 yards per game in the first three games on the ground. So he's going to give you two to three points on the ground, which is great. And hit that second touchdown. We're in good. A good spot with Deshan Watson. If you need a quarterback this week, I have a, for example, I have a Lamar Jackson, Bryce Young league. So I'm going to have to carry three quarterbacks. There are enough of them where I don't know you have to make it your first claim. I mean, presets pretty attractive. But if you don't get preset, I don't think Cousin's Rogers, Winston and Watson are all getting picked up in your leagues. So you probably can let waivers run and though then go out of free agent. Correct. And then you got Tyson Bagen. And if you had to take one and a two QB league, who would you take this week? Huntly against the Lanna or Bagen against Green Bay, both on the road. For just a one week situation, I'd go Bagen. Me too. Okay. Any interest in Kyler, Murray? Assuming Jefferson's back? No. Nominal interest, but I think you can make the case easily. You the case for Perset, Winston, Roger, Stroud, Cousins, not in that order, but those five quarterbacks ahead of him. You can make the case potentially for Panix ahead of Kyler at this point. To be fair, we have yet to see him play a full game with Justin Jefferson. So that could change everything for Kyler, but, you know, he's averaging under 12 fantasy points per game and two starts and not running to the level that I would like to see. Like he came into the season averaging almost 35 rushing yards per game. And he, I think he has that combined. If he, if Tijahakerson goes in the end zone, at least to get six more points for Kyler last week, but still wouldn't have been a good game. All right, shallow league running backs, Camara, Sharbinay. Yeah. Who would you, who'd rather have guys Camara, Sharbinay? Sharbinay thinking rest of season, Sharbinay. Caleb Black, Jordan Mason, Mike Washington, Ali Gordon, Ali Gordon or if Ali Gordon were available, would he be the number one priority of any position this week? I would rather have Emmanuel Wilson. But you're not going to get an Emmanuel Wilson to be your guy for the rest of the season. So like the only reason why I'm pushing back is because maybe Gordon can play a role for your fantasy team beyond week five and week six and he could be the dolphins for whatever it's worth. The dolphins lead running back rest of season. He ended up being that week four and that was awesome. I just don't think he's going to have very many games like that. But you might have more from Gordon rest of season than you will from Wilson. Yeah. I would just take the chance on what if Wilson is the best running back for Seattle versus what if Gordon is the best running back for the dolphins? For the record, I mean, the Bengals run defense was great the first two weeks. It's been pretty bad the last two weeks that's Gordon's match up this week. Jalen, to your point, to your point, Jamie. Is there a world where sharpening comes back but doesn't have the short yardage goal line role? Well, I would think that that's what they're going to try and do, especially coming off the knee injury. But I'll ask you this question, please, let's say it's, it's, those are the two guys that the Seahawks are using Wilson and sharpening and sharpening is a short yardage guy who gets more touchdowns rest of season. Wilson, without the goal line role or Gordon with every role, that's a great question. Right. But we got, we do have Jardarian price coming back at some point. So I don't know what's going to happen there. But all right, Woody Marx is another guy who could take a look at, but the top waiver priority is Emmanuel Wilson, who's 64% roster and was picked up on a lot of leagues. Now, this is not an easy run defense. The 49ers give up 3.9 yards per carry to running backs. Then they get the Broncos. So I've actually been a pretty bad run defense. Peyton Mitchell, yeah, basically all three running backs played the same amount of snaps. Mitchell slightly ahead of the other two, but they all played about a third of the snaps. Mitchell had five catches a week after having three catches. So he's number two on this list. Will Shipley is third. We went through all the reasons why we don't love Will Shipley. They might, they're going to elevate someone. We don't know if Shipley's going to be the lead back, but also it's a horrible match up this week against Jacksonville. Then much, much better with Carolina. But Carolina was really bad against the run in week one against the Bears. They haven't quite been that bad since actually, despite facing B-John and Gibbs. Brian Robinson Jr., Austin Eccler, Jalen Wright, and then a whole bunch of handcuffs to add. Make sure you get, you know, the ambit Johnson's, the Tyler Algiers, et cetera, the Brian Robinson Jr.s. Why a receiver, oh, by the way, if you're in a deep league, would you pick up maybe Damien Pierce? Can I make the case? We don't know if he's going to be the guy. We think he's going to be the guy. I wouldn't be surprised if they had somebody, I mean, what about, what about the Packers running backs if they were available? No interest. Not a lot of interest. All right. And then we got Devon Vale, and we get some news on Josh Jacobs. I don't care if it's positive or negative, it's just something. We got Devon Vale's. They have your worthy and trade tucker, Juan Dale Robinson. Carnaultate is 80% rostered. He's another guy. If he were out there, he might be your number one claim. Carnaultate at 80% facing the Texans, who give up the most fantasy points to the wide receivers. It's crazy, right? Yeah, it's insane. Do you think a lot of that's to do with who they've played? Yes. Sure. All right. I mean, that cold passing game is just so scary. But DJ Moore, Jamar Chase, T Higgins, Keenan Allen, CDLAM, all had big games. Four of those guys are, are studs. Josh Downey's also had a really nice. Hey, those are just carving up nine targets for Tate, each of his less, at least nine for Tate, each of his less two games, at least 11.8 PPR points. And Romeo Dobbs is also a shallowly guy. Tate, I'm sure it would be number, I think it would be number one, but between Velae, Tucker, Worthy, Wondale, and Dobbs, who's your favorite? Velae. I might say Dobbs. All right. Because eventually, Jordan Tyson will play at some of the events they're around. I do see Dobbs. Would you say that? That's gross. Sorry, I was my cousin Vinnie. Tyree Kill is our favorite wide receiver to get. But also, if you need something more immediate, Keon Coleman, Khalil Shakir, Dante Meyer, you know what, I'm not going through this. We already did this like four times today. It's so, it's so, so, so convoluted of what depends on this and depends on that. Like, this is one of those scenarios where it's very much in your favor, and you won't even know what the Buffalo situation to have your waivers run on Wednesday. Yes, sir. Roman Wilson. We need to do, we need to make that a bigger point during the off season to recommend that commissioners move their waiver wire day to Wednesday. Roman Wilson, six times on all of his games. Tray Harris has stepped up. We like him a decent amount. We like him better than Quentin Johnson. Malik Washington, you know, if you want like nine, ten, eleven points, Malik Washington. He's everything seven targets per game. He's gotten you eleven plus PBR points, it's the last two, twelve being the high. So it's not like he's doing a lot and touchdowns are clearly a problem. I just don't know what to expect when everybody's healthy because we haven't seen it yet, you know, we haven't seen Chris Bell and we go on was banged up, Caleb Douglas from week two on has been banged up. So like, what does this look like? And maybe there's a lot of positives. I don't have high expectations, maybe there's a lot of positives when everybody's on the field, then we see a better Malik Willis, but it just has been such such a hard receiving quarter judge right now. I don't think Washington's role changes dramatically with either of those guys coming back or both of those guys coming back, excuse me, but still like he's got a very safe floor of about ten PBR points, I think is probably where I'll end up, so it's been ten or eleven each of the last two weeks. And so Douglas is day-to-day, apparently, so he could be back this week. He's missed the last two games. We're all day-to-day and we're all day-to-day. Yeah, Malik Washington had 67 yards last week with Malik Willis throwing for 85 yards. That's pretty impressive. The area's Cooper had two touchdowns and number one wide receivers do well against Jacksonville, but who's the number one wide receiver for the Eagles? We just don't know. And? I think it's Wix. Yeah, probably. If I had to start in the Eagles wide receiver, I'd go back to Wix. And Kenan Allen, you know, he didn't play last week. Maybe he plays this week against Pittsburgh. Don't forget about it. There was a reason why we were telling you to pick up Kenan Allen last week. Same with that. I Mitchell a few weeks ago. Antonio Williams, eight targets had a touchdown call back, faces the giants this week with hopefully his quarterback. I think Arthur O. Casey Concepcion out there as well. He said 17 targets in his last two games. He's 64% rostered. They seem intent on getting him involved. So I don't want to necessarily start him. So this tells me that prioritizing a wide receiver on the waiver wire, maybe outside of Tyree Kill and the Bills guys, depending on how desperate you are, doesn't have to be a thing. You don't have to prioritize receivers because throughout this entire show, we've named like nine receivers that you might be able to find off the waiver wire and use this week and expect 10 plus PPR points from. And that's been the norm in fantasy for years and years. Are you going to drop Khalif Raymond to get one of these guys? Depends what you need. I mean, it's hard to trust Khalif Raymond right now. I think there's a world where he comes back to relevance. I mean, two or four games, he was great and he did that with two different quarterbacks, one with Case Keenan and one with Caleb Williams. So when Williams is there, is that a guy that Caleb leans on as opposed to what Baygent did, which was Baygent leaning on more so than we've seen at any other point this season, Romo Dunze and Colson Lovelin. So there's just, I think that's going to be potentially an issue for these barrage receivers all year long, which is unfortunate for us until maybe Caleb just settles on the guys that he favors the most. But that could be Raymond. I think when you look at it and David laid it out pretty perfectly, looking at the bangles guys or the bills guys versus somebody like Roman Wilson. I would rather start a bill's replacement or a bangles replacement if everybody's out over Roman Wilson this week. But you said it at him. Wilson, six targets in every game so far. He said two big plays each of the last two weeks that have resulted in his fantasy production spiking and clearly Aaron Rodgers favors him over Michael Pitman or Kenan Allen, for example. Like you said, we were high on him going in the last week. He has the late week growing injury that knocks him out for the game. So like, you can't start Kenan Allen this week right now that may change by the end of the week. So it depends on what you're looking for, you know, short-term long-term. Like, you want to handcuff a bangles receiver short, go out and, you know, spend some fab on Dante Myers. And at least you have that amazing receiving core locked up or Keon Coleman with with DJ more, et cetera. But, you know, if you don't need anybody at that spot, you're in a good, good situation. Like, take a long-term approach and maybe it's, you know, Roman Wilson. I'm trying to think anybody else that I may have not said, but I was tired of you, you know, the leader of that group. Right. All right. Let's take a quick look at the tight ends here. Drop. Stash. Or start. Kenan City. -Stash. -Stash. -All right, so the guys to get this week is Sikki, but it's injury-dependent, Higby, and Hockinson. Hockinson's injury-dependent, not the best week for tight ends. Hunter Henry had five targets in 62 yards, faces the Raiders. They're on paper, they're bad, but if you look at it, they may not be that bad against tight ends. Brenton's strange, against the Eagles. Michael Mayer, he's pretty interesting, but he had a touchdown two weeks ago, he had 10 targets in this last game. Facing the Patriots, they're number one against tight ends, but they've faced pretty easy competition, except for Dalton, Concai, who did nothing against them. -Right, they've thrown a Concai, and he played half the game. -Yeah, that's pretty much it. -I think Mayer's going to be open to pass catcher. -He might be, Michael Mayer. I mean, you're starting in a flex. You're starting Michael Mayer, a trade-tucker. -I would start Mayer if Gunn's always plays. It's a good way to go about it. -Yeah. It's a week-to-week thing, for sure. -Someone asked me, "Who's my Khalif Raymond this week?" 'Cause I went big on Khalif Raymond. I think it'd be Keon Coleman. Probably be my Khalif Raymond. So if that holds, then do not pick up Keon Coleman, 'cause he'll be horrible and you'll drop him next week. A couple of things said about me in the chat that are not true. Adam puts catch-up on his steak. I would never do that. I don't put anything on my steak. If steak is good, it doesn't need sauce. And Adam, is it Star Trek guy? I'm guessing people were making fun of my Star Trek shirt. No, I am not. I've never seen Star Trek. It's all the movie once upon a time. But I'll just say next generation, because I don't know the other one that you're referencing. -There are a lot of great Star Trek episodes on Paramount Plus. -Oh, there you go. -So if you're so inclined, go enjoy those on Paramount Plus. -We will talk to you tomorrow. Actually, we'll talk to you at noon on CBS Sports Network. For fantasy football today, see you later, everybody. [music playing] -They waited for so long. -The UEFA Champions League stream every match live exclusively on Paramount Plus.