Week 4 Waiver Wire: MUST ADD Players, Injury Replacements & Streamers (09/29 Fantasy Football Podcast)

>> This is fantasy football today from CBS sports. >> So what a play, can you believe this? >> It's a no again. >> It's time to dominate your fantasy league. >> It's the races, he stays on his feet. >> He's just got to have the distance. >> Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and he. >> What the heck are we supposed to do on the waiver wire today? It is a tough question. I've been really struggling a little bit so I'm looking forward to sitting out and chatting with my buddies, Dave and Jamie, to try to get things straight and help our fantasy managers. So we have three major running back injuries, including a season ender. Two A-chans are hurt and two awesome fantasy analysts are here to help us out. Good morning, Jamie. >> Good morning. >> Good morning, Dave. >> I'd be more pleasant, but this is tough. There's some exciting players that we're going to talk about picking up. But this is going to be a tricky waiver wire week and a wing in a prayer. A lot to pick up though, a lot of guys. >> Is there a must-add player? Like, oh my gosh, I cannot, for the life of me, allow this man to be on waivers anymore, Jamie. >> I'd say Braila now. >> Dave? >> I don't know if he's a must-start, because usually when you put players in that type of context, it's-- >> No, I didn't say must-start, I said must-add. >> Usually when it's a must-add, it's like, oh my god, this guy's going to be a stud the rest of the season. I agree that Braila-- I don't know if Jamie's saying that Braila and Alan is the number one guy. He's my number one guy, but we know that when Breast Hall comes back, he's going to go back to benches. So he's the top-add. I don't know if he's the, oh my god, must-add guy of the week brought to you by Adam's glasses when you need to hide your pink guy by Adam's glasses. I think that the fact that he is Chicago, this upcoming week, is encouraging. Right? Is that what they have? >> That's who they have. >> Cleveland's allowing 4.7 yards per carry to running backs. I don't know if they're really that bad, but basil, tuton, bucky, Irving, Chubahubber, they all ran the ball pretty well against Cleveland. So when you compare them to, like, compare Braila now into the Saints, you know, the Saints guys have terrible matchups, they're facing their next two opponents. And I don't know how long Travis Hends is going to be out. The next two opponents haven't given up a touchdown to a running back yet. Both of them are allowing 3.1 yards per carry to running backs. Both of those two opponents that's Atlanta and Minnesota, they face green Bay, and that's helped their rush averages against. But at least the jets have a favorable schedule. But here's just, we used to call these azure fantasy tips, like the most obvious thing in the world. But sometimes I'm guilty of this, right? I'm just like, I'm going to make some waiver claims, whatever, look at your team. And obviously the dolphin situation is different. But for the jets and for the Saints, it's week to week. It's issues for Travis Hends and Breeze Hall. Like, are you going to even need those guys? Are you, does your roster look good enough where you don't have any bi-weeks? And, and right now, you don't need that. That should could influence at least how much you spend on those guys. So make sure you look at your team and set your roster, set your lineup for the next few weeks and see how bad that you need that running back. Does it bother you at all that when Breeze Hall, I think we have to go back to 2020. All four with, when you make this call, does it bother you at all that Breeze Hall, when he missed week 14 of 2024, the carriers were even, and a different coach and staff carriers were completely, even 11 each for Isaiah Davis and Braylon Allen. Do you think this is just a different situation? I think it's a different situation, but they're going to probably see both guys get work. You know, Isaiah Davis hasn't touched the ball yet this season offensively. So, you know, I think that's why, for me, at least, excuse me, for me at least, why I lean more toward Allen than the other two injury replacement situations. Because it feels like he's, at least on paper, got more of an opportunity to be in a featured role. That could change for the Dolphins if Jalen Wright is out again. He's listed as day-to-day after missing week three with a foot injury. So, if Wright does miss week four, if you want to go that route and say, "Okay, I'll take my chances for one week." Because listen, we don't know, you mentioned it, Breeze Hall could be back in week five. You know, he's week to week. I would be surprised at that case, but he could be back in week five. Travis H. Ann could be back in week five as well, dealing with the hamstring injury. Again, I'd be surprised, but that's the case. At least, you know, at the Dolphin situation, the starter's not coming back. So, what I think you're, you're hopeful for if you're in the Oli Gordon camp is Jalen Wright misses one more game. Gordon goes out in week four and has a good game, maybe a great game. I doubt it on either side, but has the type of performance like, "Okay, now you feel comfortable that the fab you spent on him, he's the guy for the Dolphins rest of season." Whether that changes or not, but at least you see it while Jalen Wright is out. For me, I'm going to go Allen in terms of running back. If I'm prioritizing him, Allen's the first one. He's the one I spend the most fab on. I wouldn't go crazy on it because he's not out for the year. So maybe like around 25% would be the most depending on what you mean. Then I would actually go Jalen Wright's second, because I think long-term he's the best Dolphins running back to get. Oli Gordon, I'd be very interested with the idea of maybe one of the two guys steps up, and then Kendra and Miller would be fourth. Alvin Camera is in a different tier just because of where his roster percentage is. Can we add him? Let's throw him in. So Camera would be behind the Dolphins guys for me. All right, so Jamie goes Braille and Allen, Jalen Wright, Oli Gordon, Alvin Camera, Kendra Miller. Dave, how about you? This is just running back. It's not a top three overall. Yeah, sure. Let's do the running back. I'm going to do the same. Top three. Allen won right to Gordon three. I'll take you back to week 18 last year, meaningless game for the Dolphins. H.M. was out, Wright had a narrow lead in terms of snaps played touches, overall, I Gordon. They actually use three running backs, and I'm a little bit scared that Jark has Hunter is going to end up being a thing for the Dolphins at some point. That'll make an annoying between these three. I'm encouraged that Jalen Wright was called day to day. I'm encouraged that he was able to practice two of the three days last week. His injury in San Francisco was a stinger. We can get over those injuries pretty quickly, but then they added foot to the injury report and he didn't practice on Friday. So I'm a little nervous about that. I think if you're trying to gain your waivers based on what your league mates will do, I think the majority of people are either going to target Allen or Gordon first. And maybe the case could be made that Gordon should be second on the list for that reason and that reason only. And because you might be able to put in your first waiver claim for Allen, get him and then maybe even get Jalen Wright with your second waiver claim. That might be the only reason why. I think if we're doing it purely from a talent standpoint and who I think is going to be better when they're both healthy on the field for the Spathetic Dolphins run game, yeah, Wright would be better than Gordon. My top three are Allen Wright, Gordon Keaton Mitchell is forth for me. I think the chargers need him. I think they need guys who are explosive in their offense. And he's been far and away, the most efficient runner that they have, even though he's not playing a ton. He would be forth for me ahead of any Saints running back. And then once you get past really the Saints running back. Yeah, I'm not excited about the Saints run. That's a pass every team anyway. Yeah, but Tamara is going to cancel. Mara looks terrible. After you get past Jets running back Dolphins running backs, Keaton Mitchell and the Saints running backs, it's a little ugly. You're looking for like five PPR points from your running back. And that's just not good. This is the time to make a trade. I'm going to get on my snowbox now that if you're lost, a chain, it's time to look at your roster and figure out where your depth is and trade from your depth for running back that can get you by for the next few weeks. This is going to the waiver wire. I don't know if they're going to, it's going to help you any more than a bandaid would help you. But a trade might be able to help you for a much longer period of time. Yeah, I mean, I think with Tamara, obviously you say he looks bad. I mean, I, I, I can't really disagree. But I think he looks a lot better than Kendri Miller. He continues to play ahead of Kendri Miller. He does, like he is still fast. He just can't really break any tackles or do anything substantial. But also, you know, there should be some, some past catching there for Camara. We saw a whole season, but we saw six games last year with both Camara and Kendri Miller. We saw this and Camara had 83 carries and 22 catches. And Kendri Miller had 46 carries and five catches. Camara was on pace for 235 carries and 62 catches. I'm not saying he's going to do that. But we did, we already have some history of exactly this situation of Alvin Camara and Kendri Miller being the two top running backs for the Saints with this coaching staff, different quarterback for whatever that's worth. Now, Devon Hn, I said this on yesterday show, Devon Hn, first two games. I think he was averaging about 11 PPR fantasy points per game without any touchdowns, which is disastrous for a second round pick. But if I could get that from any of the guys we're talking about here, I think I'd be pretty happy. Do you think we can get 11 PPR fantasy points per game from any of these guys, including Camara? I think, Brian Allen can, you know, you're looking at the, the hope would be the workload. You know, and so the Jets offense was, was definitely more explosive in week three. In a game that was back and forth with the Lions, it could be back and forth with the Bears. You know, the Bears, it's funny because we thought their defense was, was horrific in week one. And then they've played two very strong games the last two weeks. The weather, I'm sure, impacted what happened in week two and it was Carson Wentz. But back to back strong games defensively for them. So just take that into account and Braille and Allen, not the same type of players. but I think 11 PPR points is within the range possibilities. And then if there's one guy for Dolphins, they've referenced the week 18 game. You go back to the week 14 game last year for the Dolphins. HN left early in that game. And Jalen Wright had 23 carries for 100 yards in a touchdown. So with sharing touches with Olly Gordon. So there is a little bit of a track record here where one guy is better than the other. And when he got the opportunities in a good matchup, took advantage of it. So I just don't know if you're going to get that from any of the shared backfield. Now I say that not knowing what the Dets plan to do. We know we could see Isaiah Davis in this secondary role. Yep, you know, be a factor or enough of a factor that it limits the ceiling for Braille and Allen. So it's just hard to say at this point because you're talking about three very poor rush offenses with the backups in there. I think if the starters in there, you know, Devon HN gets you to the 11 point threshold because he's good. And Rush offense is running back offense, I'll say. Breeze Hall takes the Jets offense to a different level because of who he is. You know, the Saints offense has not been good for Travis HN. And I don't know if Alvin Camara and his current state of his career and Kendra Miller who he is, you know, elevates that, I don't think the Dolphins guys elevates that, I don't think Braille and Allen elevates that. So I think that's probably the threshold you're looking for, Adam, without touchdowns. I think also with these three running back situations, if you're going to pick up Braille and Allen, you probably don't have to worry about Isaiah Davis stealing his goal line work. No, you don't worry about the catches, that's it. You do have to worry about that with Jalen Wright. I mean, I don't, you have to least worry about it. We don't know, but like your best bet for goal line, it's for the goal line carries would, would probably be Braille and Allen for the Jets, Ali Gordon for the Dolphins and or maybe like a split for the Dolphins and a split for the Saints. Well, if you're just looking at it, the Dolphins have one rushing touchdown. It was Gordon last week, the Saints. I think they have one rushing touchdown. It was Miller and Week 1. And the Jets have two. One was Hall and Week 1 and one was Allen and Week 2. I know Allen and one and Week 2. So it's not like there's a good sample size here of them. Oh, they get down there and they're going to score a lot. These teams have not just been scoring a lot on the ground. So I think you sort of alluded to this. If you don't need the one to one replacement, if you don't need to add depth to your backfield, like this is just situations to avoid. You don't need to go spend your fab on these guys. So I guess to go back to your original question, like is there a must-deck guy? The only reason I would say is Braille and Allen just because there's a history of this coach wanting to get this guy some involvement in touches and playing time. And now he gets the chance to do that. And so of the three offenses with their running back situations, I feel the most confident in the Jets, which is surprising to say, but that's the one that, you know, at least you look at and say, OK, their offensive line is relatively healthy. Their production has been there. And again, I just think that's more bris hall than anything else. But they've been running garbage the last two weeks too. And they even talked about that. We've got to get the Jets have to get our run game better. Because bris hall week one was great against the Titans the last two weeks. He's been horrible. And Aaron Glenn even addressed that in the press conference. So I think there's just an opportunity for him to establish himself. And maybe it's a problem for bris hall rest of season, because again, what Aaron Glenn has previously said. So that's the reason I would prioritize him by the rest. One other thing you say I'm that you're worried about which dolphins running back will be at the goal line. You don't have to worry about it, because they don't get to the goal line. Two snaps inside the five through three games this year. Can you name the team? There is only one team. The New England Patriots. You're then two snaps inside the five. The Patriots have four as many as the dolphins. Which team has the fewest? Oh, boy. They are winless. Who's winless? The Packers. No, they are there. I'll betcha a buck that you won't. Oh, the Bucks. Oh, you got it. I owe you a dollar. Oh, yeah. Bucks. Yes. One snap inside the five. The Raven Seahawks tied for first with 15. How many touchdowns does Jadarian price have again? Oh, boy. Yes. And if you missed it yesterday, I apologize for my flub on Sunday night. I didn't realize that Jadarian price was benched for fumbling. Okay. For a half. What's that? For a half. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to read. We got a lot more to talk about. We got to talk about Ken Yen-Cadek and and Keenan Allen facing Washington this week. And by the way, every quarterback to face Washington has scored 30 or more fantasy points so far in six points per pass in touchdown leagues. We'll talk about Fab. This is going to be a Daniel Jones. Yeah. I know. He's not playing well. But just to recap, you guys have braille and out just for running backs because we haven't even talked about the other positions. You guys have braille and Allen won Jalen right to Ali Gordon three. Then Jamie would go Camara and then Kendrick Miller. Dave would go Keaton Mitchell and then Camara. I don't feel good about Camara. All right. But I don't feel good. I don't feel good about it. I don't feel good about a charter. Yeah, you're right. I do. I do feel good about a charter running back because that guy might end up getting more work because Amari and Hampton isn't getting the job done unless the job is running into a car crash. One out of every three plays. Also I want to just throw out the names Zack Sharbinay is 69% rostered and Janari in price has two fun pulls so far and they have horrible goal linebacks in front of Zack Sharbinay. Yeah. Come back next week. I don't think you will, but it's on the top of that. They're tied for the most snaps inside the five and you know who's going to come back and go right into that role. Which is Truss Sharbinay in that role they did last year. Yeah. All right. That's kind of exciting. That's actually kind of exciting. We'll be right back. I'm going to send Dave my Venmo and we'll be right back on fantasy football today. I'm going to talk to you right now about Omaha stakes and this is a perfect time for me to do it because just last night I cooked four Omaha stakes for my family and they were awesome and we completely devoured them. And tonight Omaha stakes burgers and hot dogs for the family. They also have seafood and side dishes. They have so many things at Omaha stakes. If you want affordable, easy to make delicious food, Omaha stakes is honestly a no brainer. This is like having a trusted butcher and gourmet shop in your kitchen. And let me tell you about the burgers incredible deal here. Try a burger perfection flight for just $79.99. 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He had one taken away by penalty in week one, but this matchup against Detroit is as dreamy as you could find every tight end that has played them and that's multiple tight ends because the Saints said two guys go off in week one, but every tight end that has faced the line so far the season, including Kenyans to deep really took advantage of this matchup. So hopefully Waller does, especially if Jalen Coke or doesn't play in week four. We're up to five tight ends with at least 11 half PPR points against the Lions through three weeks. It's ridiculous. It's crazy. Dave, what's your, so for Jamie's Braille and Allen, Jalen right, Darren Waller, how about you? I've got Allen one. I do have Cedique two and I have Waller three. So two tight ends in my top three is kind of crazy pills, but the reason why I've Cedique there is because I think he can build on this. I did notice that he had this big game in the same game that Breast Hall got hurt and Adam and I Mitchell was out. That's not going to be the case eventually. Those guys will be back. But I do know that Frank Reich does have a tracker and Mason Taylor is out too. There's a track record with Frank Reich and tight ends. What I am hoping for is that Cedique's route rate goes up a little bit. His opportunities stay up. This is a Jets offense that is proven that they can throw the ball as long as they're not up against like the toughest of past rushes, they'll be able to get some numbers. And Waller to me is a little bit more of a touchdown or bust tight end. Love the matchup for him, obviously. And I'm certainly going to say that he's a start this week. And without Jalen Coker there, yeah, there's going to be some opportunities for him to do more than just catch touchdowns. But I think Cedique has a little bit more rest of season appeal. So it's Allen one, Cedique two and Waller three. Obviously if you're locked in at tight end and you've got McBride Bowers or you've got two good tight ends and you don't need to think about it, you'll skip over those tight ends and probably pivot to either stashing the running backs that are that we'll talk about or picking up a wide receiver too because that position's pretty rich this week. Kenyne Cedique has had a 25% target per out run rate or better in two of three games. And it reminds me a little bit of Colson Loveland who had this really good target per out run rate, but just wasn't running enough routes. And then when he finally started running enough routes late in the year, winning people their leagues, Kenyne Cedique, if you didn't know that he was a tight end and you watched his tape, you you you're going. who's that wide receiver number 18 for the Jets? He is unbelievably talented, which I think I say Williams is number 18 for the Jets. - Oh, 16, sorry. - I'll blame it on the eye. - It's really hard to watch tape with a hot compress over one of your eyes, but no, Sadik is so talented. And we knew that, like obviously he's a freak of the combat, but to go see what he did, I mean, the touchdown catch was amazing. And the first catch he made was really impressive too. So I, like, I can't think of a lot of leagues where I actually don't have a good tight end. Like, I have a lot of kittle, I have Kelsey, which I'm fine with. But if I had pits, if I had, I guess craft, I don't know, I mean, I feel like he'll be better. I'm not dropping craft. I could, I guess I could drop it. I want Sadik. Even if I don't necessarily need him, I feel like he's got loveland potential. You know, there's no other way around. Like good loveland, by the way. If I had loveland, I'm picking up Sadik. I don't know, like who are we dropping craft for Sadik or Waller? Are we dropping loveland? Are we dropping pits? Are we just trying to roster two guys, Jamie? - I would prefer to roster two guys, but, you know, the two of the ones that you mentioned, like craft, I would probably still hold on to it because, you know, first game without Jay and Reed, he did get targets, and he just had a bad game against the Falcon. So I think there's opportunities there for him still working his way back from the ACL tear. For pits, again, I sort of look at it as a smaller sample size because one game with Michael Pentax as opposed to what we saw the first two games. So maybe there's still hope for pits. It's hard to, you know, say that with any confidence, but he would probably be somebody I'd want to keep and just roster two tight ends. And I still think I'd like to roster two tight ends. There were some signs of life for Colston Loven last night. So hopefully there's still a strong finish moving forward when Caleb Williams helped me. - There's one other reason to want to roster two tight ends, and that is the position is scoring a ton of points this year. I believe, I believe it's still even after the Monday night, game 35 tight ends with at least double digit half PPR points through three weeks, 35 instances of that happening. Last year through three weeks, what was it? I'm 23 or 24, it wasn't anywhere close to 35. And in the two years prior, it was in the teens. So tight ends are clearly being more involved in all. I think it's a byproduct of the types of coverages that defend playing. They're trying to give up the big players and offenses saying, okay, cool. We're going to throw it underneath and we're going to get our athletic tight ends open, mismatch guys, anyway. Look at what the Saints are doing. And the fact that Johan Johnson's having a good season so far, and Noah Fant has had good games, two out of three. And they're using him in that short to mid-air, short to mid-range area, a lot of doubt. And not that Noah points in mid-air, you should add, but this is the type of thing that offense is doing. They're copycatting each other and they're pivoting to using these guys as weapons ahead of some of their mediocre wide receivers, which means that you could flex these guys. - Right, that's there you go, that's it. - So to Dave's point, just looking at this, Dalton Schultz, Tyler Warren, Isaiah Lightly, Harold Fanon, Kenyon Sedeek, are all averaging 12.9 PPR points or more. That's better than Rashi Rice, Mike Evans, Lad McConkey, Luther Burton, DJ Moore, Mecca Buca, Go on and on. - Well, you did pick some guys who left games with injuries. - Well, I mean, it's still some impressive names that were drafted very high. - We got a question. Should I drop Mark Andrews for Kenyon Sedeek? - Yes. - Yeah. - Should I drop Al Giro for Keenan Allen? - It's probably Brethren Allen. - Oh yeah, Brethren Allen, yeah. - But I would do it for either Allen? - Not Marcus Allen. - And we'll be Keenan Allen too. - Keenan Allen's very relevant too is-- - That's Allen. - And the last question on Waller will-- I would drop Tyler Adjiro for Josh Allen. Are you gonna start Waller this week if Jaylen Coker plays? - Yes, you know, so just again, what Sedeek did, they referenced it, no mason till or no, and I mentioned, it was against the Lions, so, you know, there's a lot of reason to like him because he was a first round talent. This isn't talking about, let's say, Breton Strange going off or no fan going off against the Lions' defense. So it's still worth investing in Kenya Sedeek. But Waller, his playing time is his targets, everything spiked after Coker left the game last week. And I think that's something, or an opportunity, at least you're gonna continue to pick on the Lions or you should continue to pick on the Lions if you have the fantasy tight ends to do so, until at least one of, if not both, of Branch and. The other safe, Tim Blake. - Kirby Joseph. - Kirby Joseph. - Dave's got his play, his Andy Reed playbook. - There. - His Laminate. - It's my play smat, so I don't spill on my desk. - All right. - It's also a schedule. Yeah, after this week, they play Arizona, so get ready for the Trey McBride. 10 target, 10 cat, 120 yard, two touchdowns. - And he may have 20. - I'm on McBride Island. I'm the only one who likes him better than Brock Bauer's going for it. Okay. - I like him better than Bauer's next week. - Thank you. Let's talk about Fab. Dave, how much Fab are we spending on these guys? - How desperate are you for running back? - Desperate. You know what? I am desperate. Let's assume. - You've lost Ivane Chan and you had no depth. You knucklehead you. I think you've got to look in the neighborhood of north of 15% for any of these running backs. I hate saying, I hate it saying that for the dolphins. I don't think you have to go that high for, for right. But you might have to go that high for Olly Gordon because I think the majority of casual fantasy managers will see Olly Gordon as, "Oh, he was just the main guy." He could still be the main guy and there's a rest of season opportunity for both dolphins running backs. They might put in some pricey bids for Olly Gordon. They may do the same if they lost Breeze Hall, but the poor fantasy manager that has H.N. and Breeze Hall, they're definitely going to be north of 15%. I would say the starting line for Braille and Allen has to be 15% if you're serious about rostering them. You should probably think about 20%. - I don't really think it's going to get it done personally. In most leagues, we'll see all the fab reports for the FFT open, for example, but yeah, that's fine. It's not like this is going to be the last week where we have running backs on the waiver wire that are appealing. - No, but you are going to see the 0 and 3, the 1 and 2 managers that are starting maybe to say, "Okay, this is desperation time. If I don't spend my fab now to try and turn things around, what am I holding it for?" - Yeah. - Okay, so 20-ish percent for Braille and Allen? - I think you have to. It's not just we lost Breeze Hall and he's the only running back that's missing. We lost Breeze Hall. We lost the Von H.N. We lost Travis H.N. We have injuries across the board at Y Receiver that we don't know if those guys are going to play. These guys could be flex options for you. We're heading into by week starting in week five, I know it's only two teams, but that's where the roster crunch has become even tougher. Dave referenced something earlier, which I think is smart, but at the same time, it's a lot more challenging right now is to try and make trades. You just lost a piece of your team in Devon H.N., you're going to have to give up another significant piece to get depth. What you're essentially doing is if you lost a superstar and trying to replace that superstar, you're probably selling off somebody that's very good on your roster to get multiple pieces and it's got to be something significant. It's so hard to do when you're trading from a position of weakness and that's what you're doing if you just lost one of those players. And how much fab for Ali Gordon? Honestly I would let somebody else go spend the money, but if you're going to, if you believe that he's going to be the guy, I think it's probably 15 to 20%. To me, he's the fool's goal. How much fab would you do? Right. I think you could probably get it done for the same thing or less just because I don't, Dave nailed it. I don't think people are looking at the guy who did not play in week three, who plays on the dolphins and says that's the one unless you're doing the research. You're listening to our show, you're reading the things that we're writing and you're understanding that last year, again, different coaches, different team entirely. Last year, anytime Devon H.N. missed, it was Dale and Wright, but if you go back to training camp, Jalen Wright was the number two running back on the Dept chart. He fits what Devon H.N. does way more than Ali Gordon and it's just a matter of, we talked about this on the fantasy football to express how does this coaching staff want more of a thumper or do they want more of just what Devon H.N. does and if they want more of a physical presence to keep their offense moving. Remember, they just had their best time in possession. They were more competitive against the Chiefs. It was their first home game. It was the Chiefs playing in the heat of South Florida, all those things, but it could easily be courted. It could be just this is the guy that will pound into defense a little bit more. I'm trying to think of the right way of phrasing. The bigger physical presence and that might be something that's more appealing. It's just a matter of, like, if you're just, if you're looking at it, like, I would just prefer, like, can I sneak in getting one of the dolphins running back as opposed to overpaying for one of the dolphins, right? Because this team is bad. Devon H.N. was not doing well in this game. Right. That's the thing. These guys are not going to be better than H.N. It's just hard to expect that. H.N.'s best game was like 12 PPR points and now two guys, maybe three are going to split that. Yeah. I mean, but right. I don't know. It's hopefully going to be better than Green Bay, but it could be Green Bay. And let's talk about, let's go to the Packers and we'll kill for the Dolphins Offensive Line right now. That's true. Yeah. That line's getting better, actually. Who are the Packers? They signed the guy. Bechton. Okay. Dolphins. News and notes. News and notes. We're going to keep an eye on Josh Allen, but we haven't heard anything, so he's probably fine. Baker Mayfield expected to miss about three games with a dislocated thumb. That would be Green Bay, Dallas, and Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh. Um, see if Bryce Jung ends up on the injury report. They talked about it after the game. He's dealing with something, but he should be fine. And, you know, you could go back to him this week. I know he's disappointed, but it gets Detroit this week. Let's hope he gets cocker back. And the Giants acquired Jay, Jay McCarthy for a fifth-round pick. And there's some thought that eventually he'll be this starting quarterback for the Giants. If James Winston continues to struggle and the next two games are Arizona and at Washington. So it's time for James Winston to put up or shut up a little bit here. Uh, running back news. We got Devon HN now for the year and Travis HN and Breeze Hall. It's called them week to week. Uh, Jadarian price bench for fumbling. They, they said they believe in him, but he's already got two fumbles. So I mentioned Zach Sharbanay earlier on in the show. He's 69% rostered in CBS leagues. Let me just take a look at Sharbanay and sleeper. He is rostered in 54% of leagues. So that's a guy you could get. Um, let's see. Uh, the, commander signed Austin Eckler. He's basically Rashad White. Rashad White did leave briefly with his shoulder injury. Dave, what do you make of this Eckler signing? I'm checking to see if White finished the game. He did. I thought he did. I thought we've been, maybe you've mentioned that, but maybe there's more to it than that. Maybe they just want to have a little bit more running back depth overall. And here's somebody who's been there and knows kind of like at least the personnel, the teammates that'll have there. I wouldn't expect big things from Eckler fantasy wise, but it could be a sad foreshadowing for one of the other commanders running backs. And it could be white. It's a couple of other running backs who got hurt. Taj A Spears and Bucky Irving. Spears came back in, but you know, sometimes you come back in with adrenaline and, you know, and there's that. So we'll see if Spears misses any. I'm probably mispractice. And then Bucky Irving, we just don't know and they're not going to release an injury report until tomorrow. Mike Evans, day to day, who can Akua, they're hopeful that he can play this week at Philadelphia. Mike Evans gets Denver, by the way, that could be a dicey one for him. Justin Jefferson, ankle injury seems like he got good news. He's day to day. We'll call him Xavier Hutchinson left with an injury. I didn't realize that if Nico Collins is out and Xavier Hutchinson is in, I look forward to talking about this on the starter set episode against the Cowboys. But for now, you can leave him alone. Sounds like Nico's going to play though. That's, yeah, that's the hope. Jalen Coker, Quad injury, he's apparently not, you know, not in bad shape. Let's call him questionable for this week. Jalen Coker was really bummed about it after the game. If you read the quotes from the locker room, it was like, that was the injury that kept him out at the start of the exactly. Yeah, that's what makes me nervous about him playing this week. I would expect another option to be in your lineup. Then Jalen Coker. Anybody want to pick up Tyree Kill? Kind of in the deepest of leagues. Okay. He's sweeted that it's about time to get off the couch and get to work. Yeah, just probably waiting for Kansas City to give him a contract. Okay. And Jalen McMillan re-entered his knee tough break for McMillan. And that's the wide receiver news. We'll talk about Tyler Higby in a bit at Philadelphia. He had a huge game against the Broncos, Terrence Ferguson unlikely to play this week with the ankle injury. Colby Parkinson's also banged up. So Tyler Higby is another tight end. You can take a look at it. And let's get to the top three at each position and start with quarterback. We haven't talked about any quarterbacks this week, Jamie. But the Drake May and Justin Herbert managers, maybe the Jalen Hertz managers, as they've been struggling and the Jalen Jalen Hertz and the Eagles get the rams this week, they need quarterbacks. Who are the top three? So if we were guaranteed to have Marcus Mario to start this week, Mario would be my favorite quarterback. But Jaden Daniels is going to practice in London and sounds like there's an outside chance that he could play. So I have him right, I have it right now. Preset one, Mario to two. In my rankings though, I have Mario to one and Preset two because it doesn't seem like from a waiver perspective, you're going to get a long term scenario of Mario to starting. At least Jamie, I was going to try and return sooner than expected. But not like Preset is a bad fallback option or even the lead option coming off a game that we were expecting to get from Jacobi Preset. Every game this season, 52 past temps, three total touchdowns, two passing, one rushing. And so I know the Giants defense has played better than expected, but they just lost Burns or secondary. I don't think it's still very good. And they did do what they did against Titans in bad weather. So Preset is an opportunity here to still be very successful. So they're not far apart in the rankings, but if you just were to tell me right now that Jane Daniels was completely outruled out and we knew that for sure, I would rather have the starting quarterback against the Colts versus the starting quarterback against Giants as bad as both teams maybe. And then Geno Smith would be third just with the hope that he's in a shootout against the Bears, give the Bears credit their past defense the last two games much better than expected, much better than we saw in week one. That might have to do though with the offenses that they faced and the weather that they played in week two against Minnesota, but Geno Smith is coming off a very good game. Hopefully for him, he gets that nine Mitchell back and there might be more on his plate because of the run game situation, being what it is without Preset. Are you going to start Jacobi Preset at the Giants Marcus Mario against the Colts and London Geno Smith against the Bears over Jalen Hertz? No. Okay. Over. Over Herbert yes, over May yes. Those are easy at this. How about Kyler against the Dolphins? I would start Preset and Mario to over Kyler. Okay. Obviously Justin Jefferson plays that could change things. Dave, who are the top three running backs? We haven't talked about this yet. Alan Wright Gordon. And then the next three for me are Mitchell and then choose your own Saints running back. Okay. We'll get to the deeply guys when you put on your old man voice. Yeah. Well, some of those guys are deeply guys, the Dolphins guys are deep and Miller Kendra Miller is to what's Keaton Mitchell's roster percentage 30%. So he's going to be out there in a bunch of leagues. Okay. Another reason to be interested in him is because he's there. I was going to take a break, but I feel like it's been cruel to the people who need a wide receiver this week. Jamie, who are the top three wide receivers? I don't know if we're spoken about briefly Keenan Allen, but that's about it. Who are the three receivers? Yeah, it's not great. Keenan Allen to be the one to go get just the first game without Alec Pierce. He looked very good. And taking on Washington this week, you know, that secondary has been bad. So Keenan Allen would be the potential starter across the board. Khalifa Raymond now another strong game for him and look good in connection and connecting with with Case Keenan. It feels as if like if you're looking at, I wouldn't drop Romo Dunze yet, but if you're just ranking Bears receivers at this point rest of season, it's Burden 1, Raymond 2, Odunze 3, which is frustrating to say. And then Juan del Robinson, I know it was against a Giants and you don't want to trust the Titans receiver, but this is kind of where this positions at. There's just not a lot of great options out there that I think you feel confident. And you can go with one of the dolphins guys. If you recall, when Caleb Douglas had his big game, I wrote this, I said this, I'll say it again. It's going to be a rotation of the dolphins receivers almost on a week's week basis in the column and probably on our show. Matt Collins coming up strong game, you know, Mumfield coming off a strong game. If there is no Jalen Coker, Bryson Tremains coming off strong game like, this isn't great for wide receiver this week. I kind of disagree. I think there's a lot of interesting wide receivers beyond the top three and one that you didn't name or maybe you didn't, I didn't hear it was Adonai Mitchell. We don't know if he's going to play. Yeah. But if he does play against the Bears, I'm still not ready to say that this Bears, this bear's secondary is great. But Adonai Mitchell still in his last game, 12 target, six catches, he's something yards can at least be in that flex conversation. And I think you said at best Jamie, like if there's no breeze hall, doesn't this mean maybe a little bit more throwing and a little bit more play calling overall for Geno to do what he does best and what he loves to do is throw down field sometimes not accurately, but enough to where his receivers can make a play. And we've continued to hear like during the preseason lots of talk about Adonai Mitchell. And then into the season week two, we saw it. He didn't play in week three. Hopefully he's there in week four, not my favorite wide receiver. If I had to rank him, it would be Keenan Allen one, Khalif Raymond two, Adonai Mitchell three. And then maybe Tyree kill four, just for those deep leagues who are looking for someone who could be a spark. Maybe you know, possibly by the way, in a shallow league, take a look for Jordan Addison who could step into a just a massive role like he did last week and they're facing the dolphins. He could be really good. He's 78% roster and CBS 75% on sleeper. But I don't know how much longer I can ignore Khalif Raymond. I mean, I would almost argue that he should be the number one waiver wire guy. He's led the Bears in receiving in two of three games. And those were the two like good weather games. He's obviously involved. He's on the field enough and plays it runs like 75% of the routes and it's kind of a shorter area safety valve. And that I thought he's more than. Yeah, I mean, I can say enough things about I can't say enough things about Khalif Raymond right now. He's obviously got a big role. I know it's Khalif Raymond, but again, I can make a case. There's me the number one claim on waivers. Yeah. You're kind of talking me into it, but Kenan Allen does have the commanders this week. Yeah. So I think I'm going to like Alan more than Raymond this week. But not only are you noticing what Khalif Raymond's doing, two different quarterbacks for the Bears have noticed what Khalif Raymond is doing. And they're throwing to him, including the guy who can't stay in structure to save his life because he just holds the ball too long and runs all over the place. And he's still finding Khalif Raymond. That's clear. Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams. Yeah. No, Kees Keenam is not that guy who who runs everywhere. He stayed on schedule. And that's why I think we got the games that we got from burden and Raymond on Monday night Would you pick up Raymond or Romeo dobs robber to ask? Raymond. Yeah, okay. All right. Let's take a break and we'll get you some tight-end names other than Darren Walther and Kenyans to Deek And we'll give you some DSTs as well and we'll be right back on fantasy football today Well, I just got it. You ever want to feel good about yourself. I just got a text from someone who quote tweeted my terrible advice. I gave him Regarding Kaleef Raymond. He said I need 14 points tomorrow night Wicks love Linda Raymond, and I said yeesh not Raymond. I think I'd go with wicks He quoted me and said we all got to start doing the opposite of what you say now. Is there friend of yours? Yeah, well, that's a lot of your number of friends. He gave me an LOL though. I think people realized that we're all just Taken guesses very surprised at the way he's case key and I'm played, but tight ends Jamie you the top two for you are waller and Cedeek and then you've got Tyler Higby as your third tight-end on waivers Yeah, this might be the the best position to target and as we alluded to earlier like you can play tight ends It flex and still be okay and get you know in some cases great production better than a lot of other positions and players right now So waller without coke or taking on the lions could be absolutely amazing Cedeek coming off a game without Mitchell against the lions looked amazing and then Higby is Kind of just falling into the what we thought the Ferguson role would be last week if there is no pukin to cool if there is no Ferguson that there is no Parkinson It may be a long-term role for Higby if Ferguson's ankle injury lingers So just keep an eye on that so I I think all three of these guys are worth considering as starting options for fantasy managers in week four By the way, I shouldn't say we're all just taking guesses. 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So the packers defense is not lived up to the billing This is an opportunity though for them to get right against what could be a very bad offense or against a bad offense That could be even worse in week number four On Yahoo the Ravens are 61% rostered so there you go and The bills are 25% rostered on Yahoo and they're facing the Patriots All right, that was coverage you can count on sponsored by Nationwide Nationwide is so much more than a great insurance company They're one of America's largest financial companies too Take your game to the next level with Nationwide for your insurance and financial needs Nationwide is on your side Nationwide investment services corporation member finra Columbus, Ohio Jamie kickers Sticking in green Bay with trace Mac the bucks are among the leaders and they are the leaders in most fantasy points allowed to pose and kickers So Hopefully we get some better production from the packers offense But I think we'll get some field go production from trace Mac Also, you get a university of Florida kid going back to Tampa Bay. So maybe that's a fun spot Carlos Santos offense for the Bears looked much better than I anticipated against the Eagles and they'll score some points Drew Stevens could be an ice-quaring game against the Against Colts and Daniel Carson gives him credit with the way that he's performed as well as the way the Saints offences performed There's lots of kickers though that you can find like it this was this was a tough one for me just looking at Um, like you asked me this last week and I really was like Thinking about the question like how do I go about finding this you know starts with the roster percentage And then for me it was this week the same things I said last week environment offense all those things But also just looking at like who's you have a good enough sample size like who's been bad at allowing Fuel goals and stuff like that. And so that's worse Mac and and Santos coming to play Okay time to get into the shallow league guys and This is one of those weeks. I'm not sure that there are that many of them that really jump out You know like we had Josh Downs for example last week I think and It was like you gotta go mention Addison. That's the the big one. Okay Yeah, it just is Addison going to be any good when Justin Jefferson comes back which could be this week I mean he's had plenty of good Moments and productions when just Jefferson's been on the field you know, and so it's it's easy to say Jefferson left the game And this was Jordan Addison's you know shining moment of the season nine targets and he scored a touchdown six catches for 90 yards Um, but it was also the first game of Calamart, you know, so let's take that into account too that there's uh, you know Hopefully something to build off from I think you look at Camaro as one of the running backs of target you mentioned Charbonne as another one that has some long term appeal But you know Camaro is uh, you know stepping into what could be the starting role for the for the Saints backfield for who knows how long That's um, that's easy You know player to go out and go get Um trying to make quarterbacks tight end there there's two there a little bit more roster but the same two we had last week It was Johan Johnson and Jake Ferguson Johnson's been awesome. I don't know why you're not starting him and considering him at top 10 tight end at this point Uh, at least until Jordan Tyson returns and Ferguson, you know, look he's touched down our bus But it's been a productive stretch of games for at least the last two so There are some some players that could help you there and then just quarterbacks um Sam Darnell maybe Uh, Darnell, yes would be would be one and I still think Kyler Murray 77 77% roster. He'd not play great after the opening Two drives uh of the game but losing Jefferson. It's hard to say it's been so disjointed for the Vikings You you know you get Murray with the concussion bad weather week two Jefferson gets heart week three Murray finally comes back, you know, so I'd like to see what this offense looks like and it's in its entirety and hopefully we get that in week four and beyond Yeah, you mentioned Sam Darnell Dave and and the Seahawks are 16th right now in pass rate Or at least they were going into Monday night and last year they were like 31st or something So he was second in the NFL on yards per attempt I think you're starting to see that there could be a lot of production is because JSN is so damn good He's quarterbacks But quarterback is really deep so it's not like we're saying you got to rush out and go get him There was a question about Josh Jacobs and He's 78% rostered in Yahoo leagues. I think he's in the 90s and CBS leagues But who's a better guy to go get right now if available Josh Jacobs or or Zach Charbonne Dave I'm assuming Zach Charbonne will be playing Sooner than Josh Jacobs will But if it's a six game suspension for Jacobs, you know, it might not it might be a week later than Charbonne or something like that I know, but it's also still We don't know if it's going to be six. Yeah, it could be a lot longer than six. Yeah Okay, there's more upside for Jacobs though if he if he yeah Yeah, like if we knew if the news had already come out and it's definitely six and it's done then I wouldn't have said Charbonne The the one thing the like Charbonne 69% rostered I'm guessing and it could be wrong on this but I'm guessing most of the leagues that have him rostered our leagues with our spots The leagues that don't have our spots are the ones where it's tricky to rock you know carrying same thing with Jacobs You know, it's just you're dealing with carrying a dead spot for you that you know, you can't play it all so that's hard to do Well I mean really because it's the advice we're giving Josh Jacobs Zach Charbonne Dave Help me out with the deep leagues. I think you're in good shape a quarterback We talked about percent Gino Mariotta. They're all available and at least 75% of CBS sports leagues Obviously if you're looking for a quarterback in Superflex. It's Jalen Daniels Who gives you some rushing upside for Tampa should be the three-week quarterback there while Baker mayfield Nurses his injury and he does have a tendency. I went back and looked To hyper target his receivers and then we could use somebody like that not that Baker didn't do that He did but at least that'll continue on and hopefully he can be accurate and move away from pressure a little bit better than Baker mayfield So Daniels. There's some there's some intriguing upside there James Winston also should be mentioned he's available in 84% of CBS leagues These next two games should be games where he can air it out against favorable matchups I am hoping that he can come through. I'm actually hoping mullig neighbors can come through in those games We talked about the dolphins running backs are available in over 90% of leagues Keaton Mitchell's available in 70% Kendra Miller over 90% Isaiah Davis if you're really scraping the bottom of the Maryland PPR He's available in 99% of leagues. I I don't know if I have it in me to say yeah go pick up Najia Harris or heem Sanders I'm not there But they're available on a ton of leagues wide receiver Tyrick Hill rostered an 8% I would expect that number to go up now that there's news that he's he thinks he's closer to signing There's a video of him running on the beach Doesn't look quite like So that's just a load and and Apollo grade Yeah, yeah, so he's he's trying to do his rocky impersonation right Yeah, ravishing Rick Ruud did the exact same thing before his steel cage match with the ultimate warrior For the WWE Championship at Somerslim it did not work for Rick Ruud But it might work for Tyree Kill, especially if he reunites with the Chiefs. I think that that would be kind of interesting. Would want to have that guy on my bench. Jamie talked about the Dolphins receivers, Chris Bell, had some good moments last week, Malik Washington. He could be a benefactor of the running back situation in Miami because he's a short area target. He had 10 PPR points, had a couple of carries last week, maybe he gets a boost, but he's just not exciting. Like, there's a little bit more with both the other Dolphins receivers, with Pat Bryant and Denver, Ted Hurst and Tampa. Those guys are available in a ton of leagues, too. And then let's just say Sedeek and Waller are already rostered in your leagues, and you can't get your cloppies on him, Tyler Higby, 2% rostered. The world left him for dead except for Sean McVey. And now if there's no Puka, no Terrence Ferguson, he should have run a hell of a ton of routes and maybe even finish as the top 12 tight end against Philly. And maybe no Colby Parkinson as well. Yes. I would expect that. And speaking of Philadelphia, let's go real quick here on Chicago and Philadelphia. I started a short change here, but a long way to wire a show today, and I want to make sure we get to the other names. Jamie, do you have general concerns about the Philadelphia offense right now? They only had the ball for 23 minutes. Basically, they ran 47 plays. They actually averaged the same yards per play as Chicago. I think Chicago 0.1 better, but yeah, not a lot of plays. Do you have concerns about the Eagles offense in general? I think you have to after what they did against Tennessee the previous week. And then looking at what they did last night and now that being said, if Jalen Hertz doesn't get knocked out inside the goal, inside the red zone, does he get the touchdown? Does he throw better past than any dog? Do we get a score there and we feel a little bit different just about how they look in general because somebody else got your production? So I think when it comes down to the main players, I thought Seicone Barclay was great. He just didn't have the great fantasy day, but the concern about the neck don't love to see the lack of work in the passing game, but I thought he ran amazing. At one point, he was averaging 6.7 yards per carry, so that looked like the Seicone Barclay of old. Devante Smith, tough matchup against Jalen Johnson, amazing catch on the sideline. That was just fantastic. You want to see a little bit more from him, but eight targets, six for 65. That's not a bad day. You know, give him a touchdown. It's a much better day. And it really is just Jalen Hertz. You know, so again, if he has the other score, which he may have gotten, then we're talking about an 18 to 20 plus day, like you're still feeling pretty confident, but just don't love it that he's coming off this game going into face the Rams next week. Okay. And then on the bearer's side of the ball, Dave, what's your message for Roma Dune's A-Managers and Colson Loveland managers? I'm sorry. I apologize. I certainly was excited about Colson Loveland, less excited about Roma Dune's A. And I thought that they would have much better years, but I failed to consider Kalief Raymond. Yeah, you did. And how silly of me to ignore Kalief Raymond throughout his entire career until this very moment when he stepped into this short area target role. You know, we talked about, well, who's going to be the among us St. Brown of this bearer's offense? And we kind of just defaulted to burden, even though he wasn't entirely used that way last year. It's Kalief Raymond. I think he wears the same number as St. Brown, too, but he's small, but he's shifty. He's very fast. He's doing a lot more than just short area catches. He's finding ways to get open and running away from defenders. And I think he's going to continue to be a thing. And it's going to cost us with Loveland and a Dune's A. I don't think you can start a Dune's A with any confidence unless it's just against a crappy, crappy secondary or a defense that just gives up loads of red zone passing touchdowns. And maybe it's the same exact thing for Loveland at this point. So fortunately, here we are in a week. We've given Loveland three weeks. I made excuses in week one because the film showed it week two, week three. It's much, much harder to do. At least there's tight ends that you can go and pivot to and say, okay, I can put Loveland on the back burner or in a tensing league, I can cut Loveland and I can go start Sadeek Waller, maybe Higbee, probably Higbee, to be perfectly blunt. But the one thing, and I wrote about this late in the week, I added it to the tough decision story that you can read on CBS Sports.com every week. It would only make sense for the Bears to get the ball out fast from Case Keenam's hands. And since the start of last season, Luther Burton, far and away, had the highest target throughout run rate on throws of two seconds or faster. And that played it out. And you saw it on the first drive, you saw it throughout the entire game. I think like two thirds of the throws from Case Keenam yesterday were 2.5 seconds or less. So getting the ball out fast, designing plays for Burton, okay, at least he's hitting or at least he hit this week. I think he can keep hitting Caleb Williams has to learn to just play on time. If he does that, the numbers will be there for Burton. And Raymond does have rest of season appeal. So those are the two guys from Chicago, and their passing game that I feel best about moving forward. And Swift, I thought, played way better than Monongai. I love that he had twice as many carries. Had 70% of the snaps maybe a little bit less than that. So Swift has kind of evolved into being the primary runner for Chicago. And not a guy splitting drive after driver. Maybe they did split. I didn't get a good beat on it. Not really. I mean, and I didn't know this Adam. I'm encouraging. Monongai, Monongai had that great drive late and then he got pulled and Swift came in at the goal line. And Keenam is the one that finished that drive with a touchdown. But Swift was the one in there. So clearly Swift, he was already a must start. I'm not telling anything, but it might be nervous about having Monongai on the bench as having more than a handcuffed to Swift. I think it's one thing to keep in mind, it's probably not going to happen, but does Beijing get the job next week if he's fully they do the exact same thing if he does. Maybe I feel more confident in Keenam than I do in Beijing. Interesting. Swift, by the way, I mean, Keenam almost threw like three pick sixes in this game. He got a little lucky. Yeah, by the end of the game, he was on 2023. The Beijing was, yeah, Beijing was that way in 23. There's a hundred percent true. However, he didn't have Ben Johnson. He didn't have Roma Dunez and Luther Burnett and Goldstone Lovewood and all that. You're right. I mean, look, I'll take this performance, I would not bench Keenam if I were the Bears. But anyway, Devante Smith came up a yard short of a touchdown. DeAndre Swift came up about a yard short of a touchdown. He has played seven goal line snaps compared to two from Monongai this year. He said all four of the running back carries from the three line or closer. So right now it does look like a really positive development for DeAndre Swift. Okay. Uh, the drop-o-meter, zero to 10, Mark Andrews. Eight. Sure. Ten and a non-PPR. Um, March on Lloyd. Eight. Yeah, probably around there because now you start thinking about, well, do I want a running back who's struggling behind a bad offensive line and splitting two ways in Green Bay or running back who's going to split two or three ways in Miami in New Orleans with the Jets. Lloyd's been in three ways too. I know. I think at some point, was it you who said Chris Brooks is probably going to get a look at some point, Jamie? Because I said that after week one, I think Caleb Johnson will be getting the bigger opportunity. He just looked the best of the three guys so far. I don't know if either one of them looks great, but I know there are Brooks ends up getting at least some chances to roll off the ball. Is Caleb Johnson in this discussion with Isaiah Davis and, and all these guys? I do want the second half, I think if you're comparing any of the Packers running back said, rather have Braille and Allen or really take a chance on a Dolphin's Guy and really take a chance on the same. Yeah. Kyle Pitts, drop a meter. It looks as the one who's playing when they're passing and when they're trailing. Uh, pit is a five. Sure. Five. Fine. Okay. Xavier Worthy. Ten. I was hoping that Worthy would have a much bigger game against Miami. Ten. Just say ten. I'll say ten. Quentin Johnston. No, I'm going to say nine. Shut up at him. Okay. Now you can say ten. Quentin Johnston. Eight point five. I'm not going to say ten. I'm going to say seven. Seattle Denver, Kansas City by Rams Houston. Have fun with Quentin Johnston. Ben Schruzsever. For six more weeks, Denzel Boston. Zero. Three. Would you drop him for Quentin? Would you drop Denzel Boston for Quentin Allen? If I needed to start one of the two, I would. Same thing with Collie Freeman as well. Ben Schruzsever. Casey Concepcion. I'd rather a Boston than Concepcion. Seven. Seven. Yeah. I get it. If you're in the position to stash Concepcion, he's playing more now. He had a season high route run. He had nine targets. Production hasn't been there. Michael Pittman. I think Aaron Rogers ready to drop him. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] Nine. Go look it up. If you know you know, I guess? Drake May. Ten team leagues, this is an eight. I think if it's a 12 team league, it's probably more of like a five. Ten team league, he's a 50 and a 12 team league, he's a 10. Don't you think we should give him at least some chance once A.J. Brown comes back? I don't disagree with that at all, but there's just so many quarterbacks available right now and you can't start Drake May. He's going to take up a spot on your bench. So if you have the bench space to carry him, sure, carry him. But I think with by-weeks coming up and all these other players that are available, like, here's three quarterbacks for you. Which two are you carrying? Jacobi Berset, Tyler Schuck, Drake May. Oh, it's Adios. It's Adios Berset, to be honest, and not- And I guess that's fair. It's probably what's the best example. Right. But Schuck is my starter. Yeah. All right, so- Give me another one. I want to say- It's not clear that Aaron Rogers was cursing at Michael Pittman, but it seemed that way. Portland Sutton- I don't think Rogers curses at anybody. Portland Sutton is like a seven or an eight. I don't know when I'd start him. And I kind of like Pat Bryant better. Portland Sutton is eight, yeah. Bryant Thomas Jr. Ten. Yeah, I'll say nine. All right. Let's go back to the waiver wire. I think this is a Jacobi week, by the way, for the Jaguars. Okay. Well, he's available in some leagues as well. So Jacobi Berset and Marcus Marriota are the top two priorities for Jamie Berset more long-term. Marriota would be ranked ahead of Berset this week if Jane Daniels is out, but we don't know. And then there's Gina Smith, who's got Chicago on the road, and he's playing pretty well, even though he's only had one good fantasy game. But what about Daniel Jones, Jamie Washington, has given up 30 or more fantasy points to Jalen Hurtsdack, Prescott, and Sam Darnold? And none of them had a rushing touchdown, that's the other amazing thing. What about Daniel Jones this week? He's right behind those guys. So if you can't get any of the top three, at least for me, I think Daniel Jones, you just take a chance with a matchup. So, the two of the three quarterbacks are clearly very good fantasy quarterbacks in Jalen Hurtsdack, Prescott, and Sam Darnold, just with the way that the C-ox were playing, plus the fact that he beat up this defense last week, I think, or last year, excuse me, on top of last week, that you could buy into just Sam Darnold having a great day and being a good fantasy quarterback. So Jones is the one that's hard to buy, but if you do like just chasing matchups, it's the best matchup you can find. And then do you see any long-term appeal for, like last week we talked about, you got to pick up Bryce Young and Tyler Shock, right? Even if you don't need a quarterback, these guys have long-term appeal. Do you see it for anyone else, Prescott, Mariotta, Geno Smith, Daniel Jones, Kirk Cousins who's, among the touchdown leaders in the NFL, Dishon Watson is running pretty well right now. Penix, Rogers, James, blah, blah, blah, not them. But Dave, any long-term appeal, any quarterbacks that are just guys to get? No. And the nice thing about it is there are so many quarterbacks that you can look at off the waiver wire each week and say, oh, there's a good match up here. Maybe I can stream them. And then next week you'll make a switch and you'll go to a different quarterback. So Geno might be the only one. It's because even with Presaw in the field, it's not like the run game's been awesome for the Jets except when they played the Titans. But I'm not, I'm not going to, I would say it for Berset, but we know that their season could go sideways and when it does, it's going to be Carson Beck. Same thing with the Raiders. Either they keep winning and Cousins keeps going like he's doing, which would surprise me. And that would give him rest of season appeal. I just don't buy it. They're eventually going to turn to Mendoza. So I don't know if there's a quarterback here that I would look at. I would say for Berset, I think it's just, you know, track record is pretty solid for what he did last year. There's two games so far this season. I think if he had gotten that second touchdown in week one when he threw 37 times, you say, okay, here it is again. It's another 20 point game. That'd be two of three. You know that they're going to be in these scenarios of most likely chasing points and playing some defenses that, you know, I thought going into the week San Francisco's defense was going to be tough. And then they lose Nick Bosa and San Francisco's defense, not tough. So there's going to be injuries that occur for this terrible schedule that we knew going into the season. And it's already happened one time. You're going to get probably a lot of 40 plus 50 plus pass attempt games for Jacobi Berset. I think he's worth. He's got some long term appeal. Listen, we thought you were right about this schedule was tough. Now look, it's the giants without Brian Burns. It's the lions without a secondary. The Rams in week six. Okay. That could be really tough. Denver in week seven. And then same thing. Yes. And there's Seattle's on there. They've got Seattle one more time in the right. That's why I'm a little nervous about how many, but even with, even with Bryce Young and Tyler Shuck, Shuck, you could say, okay, maybe a little bit safer. We just saw Bryce Young get pummeled against the Browns. You know, so there's going to be bad games for these guys as the season unfolds. You just know what Berset is. Volume volume volume. And that's going to lead to a lot of big fantasy games. Okay. Let's go to other running backs here. We talked about the situations that you need to know about. There's also like Mike Washington, Jr. get some carries and you know, guys like that. There's Keaton Mitchell. They've talked about him, but that's basically it. And then I brought up, I brought up Caleb Johnson. You guys didn't seem to jazz about him, although it did seem like Caleb Johnson was taking over a little bit toward the end of that game. And then we've got, let me just ask you about one more guy that we haven't talked about. Jamie, a manual Wilson. Any interest there? No. Okay. Great. 53% of leagues already. Oh, sorry. I didn't realize I couldn't bring up a guy who's half, who's half owned. No, no, no. I'm just saying, like all the typical 12 team leagues probably already have a manual Wilson. He's going to get dropped in so many leagues because I picked up last week with the idea of the Darian Price, maybe missing because of the chest injury. He's rostered. No, almost as many leagues as Taijay Spears, a few more leagues than Chris Rodriguez. Okay. We're talking about those guys. All right. All right. Let's go to the wide receivers on the, want to roster, oh, meter, Jordan Addison, zero to 10. 11. Trade talker. Seven. Nine. Don Savian Wicks. Seven. Seven. Jacobi Myers. Nine. Seven this week. Five overall. Okay. And why do you like Myers this week? Just to match up against Cincinnati in the way that their secondary plays and it should be a scoring game. All right. So then we've got Keenan Allen. Would you add Keenan Allen over, not over Addison, I assume, but would you add Keenan Allen over Tucker, Wicks, and Myers? If I need somebody for this week, I don't know if I would do it over Tucker, but over Wicks and Myers, yes. Raymond. I think I'm, I think I'm sold on Raymond rest of season over Keenan Allen too. After this week, I like Allen rest of season. I'll take Raymond. Raymond. Yeah. I haven't, I haven't just haven't heard it a while. We're going to start seeing fantasy team names. Everybody loves Raymond and Kaleigh Raymond is starting for somebody or the Colson Loveland manager. It's going to be everybody hates Raymond. You do have Malik Washington who has eight or more targets in two of three games. I just love Raymond. Everybody loves Raymond except Loveland. You still love Raymond than I love Lund. Less. There's something. Yeah. It could probably. Anyone else want to talk about Mac Holland's Cannata Mumfield, but we're expecting, well, no, we're not expecting. We're hopeful that Puka comes back this week. Bryson, Tremaine, if Cokeers, he was interesting. He was interesting. Yeah. It's a target. I need a receiver on 48 pass attempts. So I don't know. Right. But you know what? Like if Cokeer plays, he's pretty much useless. If Xavier Liga comes back, he's useless. So these are, these are deeply options. These are guillotine league options. These are, you know, desperation plays. So I'd rather Bryant and Hurst and they're out there in a ton of leagues over. Yeah, I can't play Hurst this week, though, with Jalen Daniels again. I kind of, I kind of like Daniels. What else we got? It's Green Bay, too. Trey Harris at seven targets. Oh, I'll give you, I'll give you two, three names. These are IR/stash guys, but James Conner, we talked about this on Sunday. If he's healthy, how do the Cardinals not trade him to a team that needs a running back? Especially when he was healthy. Because he wasn't really healthy for that long. He was banged up for a lot of the preseason. And then two receivers, Jordan Tyson, we talk about him every week. You could stash him on IR. Dejean Stribbling could be back soon in 10 weeks. Is it 10 weeks? Yeah, he's out a while. You could still stash him on the IR. Okay. I'll throw out, well, how do you drop or hold Rashad Bateman? Drop. Drop in smaller leagues. I would obviously rather have Alan Raymond Mitchell. So yeah, I guess he's a drop in 12 team leagues, too. All right. And then Dave mentioned, yeah, and I Mitchell. Tight ends. Got Johan Johnson and Jake Ferguson and the shallowies. Would you pick, would you just hang on to Johan Johnson, or are you getting Darren Wallerick and Kenyans to eat, Jamie? Johan Johnson. Johan, okay. Drop Jake Ferguson for those guys in a heartbeat. Okay. Would you drop Jake Ferguson for Tyler Higby? I think I would. I mean, at some point, we're just going to say this is who Jake Ferguson is, you know, as opposed to chasing and chasing and chasing and chasing. You know, so he's on a great offense and he scores touchdowns like, I don't know what the problem is. Because he's got, because he, he's got a 13% target. Yeah, targets are there, but you can't do it. I mean, if he had scored week one and he fell yard short and then he gets the two touchdowns in week two and another touchdown in week three, like, I mean, I guess you could have the Mark Andrews year from two years ago. Yeah. Yeah. For the Dallas Goddard year from last year. Yeah. I feel like Goddard had more targets than this, but there's also the chance of, hey, CDLAM or George Pickens gets hurt and Jake Ferguson is a monster. So, I mean, that's true. But there's also a chance and there's a chance that Pukin Okua comes back and we might not want Tyler Higby at all. Well, that was hard. Like, we keep chasing this, like, Sidik looks awesome, first round talent. Mitchell comes back and not playing Detroit anymore in these things. you know, there are a lot of gets maybe a little bit more. one week scenario of you get the lions and coakers out and then he stinks and he stinks and he stinks and he stinks and there's just Jake Ferguson scoring on five targets on a week doing this. Well, five would be great. Renton Strange gets the the Bengals this week like firemuth wasn't great, but the Pittsburgh tight ends had six catches for 99 yards last week. Oh, there was a bust with Darnell Washington rumbling for a big game. Well, that's that's Roger raised it down on our post game broadcast for CVS was pretty cool. Oh, I didn't see like he goes I threw two yard pass and I turn my head and just watched the big fellow rumble. Yeah. He's I love Darnell Washington. I wish they throw to him more. Um, Arana Gatsden, I guess like still has the same a 10 on the dropple meter. Noah fan, Noah fan had a 35% route run rate and you know, if you if you drop Jake Ferguson and you want to tie them that can score a touchdown, fans done that two or three weeks just like Ferguson. I'm not going to take Ferguson for no fan. I'm not doing that either, but I don't feel really good starting either one of them. What are you doing about Dalton Schultz and Isaiah likely holding, holding if not starting. Would Schultz that one start of Niko place? Agreed. Right. So then you could look to the waiver wire. Sometimes might be hard. Well, I mean, if that's your only tight end. Yes. Okay. No, let's say Dalton Schultz are only tight end. Do you make a good job? I'm dropping it for Dan Waller in a heartbeat. So do you think to for the week, this week, yeah, you're streaming at that point. And DST is the packers, the bills, the Browns, the Bears, Beats, Battlestar Galactica, the Kickers, Trace Mac, Cairo Santos, Drew Stevens, Daniel Carlson, Spencer Schrader. Well, I do it's going to be a long one today. We needed it. We needed to talk it out. I feel better now. Thank you guys for your help. You said, well, what's your bid on right now? You said you're going to tell us. Oh, it's pretty aggressive. I don't think I did say that. I don't think I want to tell you. So the percentage you said you're going to say the percentage of your remaining fab. Oh, 30ish. Okay. There you go. But now I'm screwed. Thanks, Jamie. Thanks for ruining my whole season. Well, we'll talk to you tomorrow at the end of that one. Did you? By the way, so high. I'm fantasy football tonight tomorrow. See ya. [MUSIC] Paramount podcasts. [MUSIC]