Week 2 Waivers + Bounce Back or Buns? - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/15

[MUSIC] Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. [MUSIC] Tuesday, September 15th, somebody in this office is glowing. I did not think Mike could be here. You didn't ascend, you did not, I just assumed you were no longer on this brother. >> I did, so you do it, yeah, you just came back from the home. >> I run across the table, Kim Boon Brothers. >> These two, Kim Boon Walker, this is- >> Oh, baby. >> Also, what is this, Andy, on the Kim Boon Walker? >> He's got him on the computer. >> I know why, I'm just saying it's not fair or true to the nature. >> Just with Gibbs and Josh Allen and C.D. And I'm gonna- >> It's not their time right now, Andy. >> Listen, it took one game. >> Kim Boon Walker. >> It took one singular game. >> Well, hold on, against one of last year's elite defenses. You may continue. >> Are they elite? I don't know, they- >> They were, I'm saying they were last year. >> Yes, I know, now all of a sudden it's like, do you start running backs against them, but- >> No. >> You can start this one against them. Kenneth Walker, 23 for 173. >> Two touchdowns because we're almost technically a passing touchdown. >> Oh. >> Would you realize this? >> Oh, yeah, yeah. >> With the old fashioned Andy Reed Patrick Mahomes, we just, we bowl it. >> Did you see that on that play, Kim Walker said that was a really tough one for him to learn how it worked because they were watching early 1900 football plays. >> Yeah. >> Early 1900s. >> Early 1900s play. >> Andy Reed said Chris Berman gave him that play. >> I mean- >> Yeah, I said, Chris Berman showed him that and he took it. >> It's always funny because I'm like, when do you decide you're actually going to use these? And then when you use them, you kind of like, you expire them to a degree. But look, it was the Kim Walker- >> No, you set it up so that they're watching for it and then you do something else. >> It was the Ken Walker show. >> [LAUGH] >> Guys, he's good, he's good at football. >> Well, look, this is, this is like, anybody in this room read The Lord of the Rings books? They're very long, right? >> I'm nervous. >> They're long stories. >> It takes a long time for a payoff and things like that. I feel like the Ken Walker story is like a six series book set and it had some ups and some downs and some all arounds and Mike's like, I'm going to keep reading. And we're like, I don't know if you should keep reading. He doesn't seem like- >> The fourth book was pretty slow. >> The fourth book was slow and then some pages were torn out all over the place. And then, okay, it's a novel to you in the MVP, but is he coming back to the team to share with Sharbinay or is he going to the doldrums of some other French- >> Yeah. >> Wait, Kansas City, well, that should work. >> And I love on the broadcast, they said what we all assumed, which was the reason he went there. It was not to win a Super Bowl. It was not to, it was solely, he wanted the opportunity to get all the work. >> Yeah. >> Like, it basically was saying like, why were you so good in the Super Bowl? Why were you so good in the playoffs? Because he got the opportunity and he wanted to go somewhere where he got the opportunity. >> Kansas City promised him the opportunity. Turns out, 375 rushing temps seems realistic if you could say healthy, which is really gonna be tough. But definitely- >> You're- >> I mean, I should be talking, Mike. >> You talk all you want- >> Well, I just, I love that. So we're in our our slack. The Ken Bone Brothers are celebrating- >> Yes, yes. >> As the Bone Brothers as we- >> Just, I mean, how can you not be celebrating? >> We should go out for like a Bone Brothers lunch, you know what I mean? >> You know what I mean? Just celebrate. >> I hate it. >> Ken Walker Day, go over to Bourbon and Bone. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, very nice. >> Hashtag not sponsor- >> Is it wings? >> No, I just, the slack from the haters of our office was like, yeah, I was good to die. Oh, that's what that's the, that's the thing. Oh no, my good players getting too much work. >> I will say this, the only hope that our League of Record has with Gibbs and Walker. >> Out of here with that non-sense- >> It is simply that they're gonna die. You're the biggest problem, Andy. You're legitimate biggest problem right now in our league. In our main league, is it your guys are getting too much work? >> [LAUGH] >> That's so good. >> It's so good. >> You know how much that sucks for the rest of us? >> You know, there was this, we've had super teams in our league before. >> Oh man. >> And the super teams sometimes they come out in week one, and they're just, you know, they underwhelmed. That did not happen. >> No. >> No, it went as planned. With a down week from Achan and a down week from- >> Yeah, and our league, if you score 130, you should win. That's like our scoring format, that is a great week. You crossed 130- >> And 140. >> And then 150. >> Well, and then you thought you had an okay game, and then you had Kenbone Walker, and then you went to what, 175 is- >> It was a delightful moment. >> I need to get everybody else to give up. >> That's the real key. I need them to just- >> I think you did in week one. >> I think they need to retire. But it was on the back, I mean, Kenbone, unbelievable performance. It was also, in my opinion, unbelievable to see my homes able to run the football a little bit to, you know, he didn't- >> I didn't forget this one, though. >> He didn't even slide. >> The pants store drops not working, Jeremy. >> On it. >> I'm sorry. >> Travis Kelsey, three for 71. Look, Rashi Rice, thank goodness for the touchdown, because it was two broken tackles, which by the way, Denver did not practice tackling the softies. >> They seemed like they had a little bit of issue unwrapping up. >> Yeah, I don't know if there was like a, they distributed like Vaseline to everybody, because Bonix couldn't hold on to the football, and they couldn't hold on to the chiefs. It was an embarrassing performance. >> He did have an all-time podium, quote, though. He was asked- >> Bonix? >> Yes, Bonix was asked by a reporter, can you walk us through the in zone interception? And he goes, yeah, I dropped back to pass, and I threw it to the other team. >> He was like- >> I mean, super, super accurate. I mean, he did walk you exactly through what happened. >> The Broncos have, there's hilariously two parts of this story. >> Yeah. >> And Sean, Emma Johnson looked awesome. >> Well, let me finish something on the Chiefs real quick, because I want you to talk about the Broncos, but I just want to say, make no mistake, this is the recipe for the season for the Chiefs. It's not that my homes can't have bigger games, better games, whatever. The recipe was seen in this game. The recipe is run the football and be a dominant defensive force, and then let my homes execute without mistakes. They don't have the wide receiver personnel to be a dominant passing team. I do not believe they do. >> What are you talking about? You saw a super, spy Travis Kelsey in this game. >> I mean, it's funny, because Emma Johnson and Travis Kelsey were the two leading receivers, neither a wide receiver. >> Davey Worthy, three catches, Thornton, zero, Cyrus, zero, Worthy, was the leader in total receptions at wide receiver. And then Rossy Rice, two catches, I mean, I, man, it's one week, but I'm concerned about rice. >> Oh, rice. >> You're dropped his sixth. >> Oh. >> Imagine owning pants right now. >> There was a point last night when I thought about making AI of pants exploding off of your body. Like, that was the, that was the pinnacle of your life. >> Yeah, I don't think you've got anywhere to go, but down now. >> Last night, probably you're wetting, maybe the birth of your kids. >> Well, I mean, you forgot super duper champs, nice. >> Oh yeah. >> That was probably better. >> That was fantasy fantasy. And then marriage and kids. >> Yeah, I'm not worried. I'm really concerned about that other show. >> I would say that there is legitimate concern for Rossy Rice going forward to targets with, you know, the Eric B. Enemy system in place. I was worried about like, how will they utilize them? Will they have him be that kind of true possession receiver? And I don't think this is necessarily, I don't want to over react to week one. You go back, you check the tape. They won easily running the ball, so you didn't have to throw up much. But I did have a little bit of concern or worry coming into the game that they wouldn't use Rossy Rice the way that they have the last couple of years, which has been so good for him. I don't think that that has been good for the Kansas City Chiefs. It's not like a huge EPA play when it's successful enough, but it's like not explosive plays. I mean, there's a reason the Chiefs didn't make the playoffs last year. They weren't a great offense. And so, you know, TBD, he got a touchdown. I don't know if you use that as an opportunity to try to-- >> Matt has a question for you. >> Slip him. >> The Falcon, Ike, a poop butt wants to know, would you trade Rossy Rice for Parker Washington? >> In a heartbeat. >> And I think I would sprint to the heartbeat. >> And I don't think you can get that done after that. >> In any format. >> Yeah. >> In points per Rossy Rice leagues, I would still do it. >> Mike, talk about the Broncos. >> Okay. So, my question was going to be, how long is Davis Webb calling plays for this team? >> It's totally. I can't believe he made it to quarter four. As the next five weeks, J.K. Dobbins had one carry in the second quarter. Your main-- and Harvey looked good. They were-- I thought they used Harvey, you know, you have to get him in space. That-- my entire argument of why I like Dobbins over Harvey is that Dobbins is a better actual running back. Harvey is-- Harvey has juice. He is a weapon that can be used in the correct way. but this is a defense and it it should be a defense and run team now that we had now that dominance is back to health. They did not. They completely abandoned the run. I think it was like three carries in the first quarter one in the second. Then he had a couple or he at least one good carry in the second half, but it's like they they kept throwing it over and over even though it was not working. The chiefs knew what they were going to do. I mean, shout out to Pat Bryant. That was that was pretty fun. He led the team in targets. One catch for two yards for Jalen Waddle. Yeah. That they were how about they were broken. How about Jacksonville, the Rams, the 49ers the next three weeks? It's tough. They've got a good defense and we've seen explosive offensive like performances last year. They were sparse though. They were they were you know here and there they would blow up for 40 points. And then most weeks it was like they just did enough to squeak out of wind. I did see Warren Sharp tweet out just a reminder of who the Broncos beat. Yeah. In 2025, which was Tray Lance, Chris Oledukin, George, Kenny Pickett, Geno Smith, Marcus Marriota, Geno Smith again, Davis Mills, Justin Fields, Jake Browning, Cam Ward. There was a list of not great offenses that they were playing. So I know we I still do view the Broncos as a very top end defense. But at least be open to potential in you know incorrect thoughts. It was so insane. They're like, hey, Bonyx is playing real bad. Should we try and like get them on track with some like let's help them out with the the run game. Like no, we're just going to let Bonyx keep looking terrible. Yeah. And once you got down, you were stuck and it was it was not good. It's one week. But you know, through one week, the AFC title game contenders didn't look great. Right. So it'll be very interesting. We got more news. By the way, today's a waiver show. I didn't even say it at the top because I was too quick to get into the Kinbone Walker moment for Mike. But waivers on today's show, news on today's show. I've got a little game. I want to play with you guys because as they call it, Kinbone Walker or no, I think I know how because the list is very small. I think I know. Well, that'd be a fun game to play that we could do that actually actually wild. So it's like after you can't overreact, but you can't over it. It's like, okay, obviously you'd take Gibbs and B. John. Then the question starts. Well, I think I'd take Jonathan Taylor over. Okay. I think I would take I would take CMC sure. But then I think the list. I mean, it's it is. I mean, you're taking over HN. Oh, yeah, you're taking him over. We weren't before that. I would. People are very excited for Gentie. I need to see him play not the dolphins. James Cook. I think that's a question. I mean, Kin Walker got zero goal line opportunities last night. Well, he got it. What a loser. Oh, I mean, he got the target. Yeah, I just mean like you're going to have games where they're on the goal line and he's running the ball in and the homes, you know, ran one in. So let's talk some more news. News and notes from around the league. The last piece of information we got on Sam Darnold, a unique soft tissue injury. I saw I heard glute this morning. Oh, it is quite unique and expected to be short. What is that a glute? Let me see one of those in a while. Expected to be short term. I don't eat bread. So I'm not worried about it. Right, right, right. You're glute free. Oh, switch. Thank you, Mike, as soon as it was on the, it was on the, you know, on the bubble there. Come on. I liked it. Guys, I don't even care what's happening today. I know it is looking like waivers, waivers. I've got getting my walker week four return to play, which by the way, I did offer my Ken Walker for Christian or wait. No, it was, it was it was on in the two 11. Oh, that's right. That's right. Which I'm like, yeah, maybe that was a mistake. Maybe, um, Darnold week four return. I'm, you know, Cardinals play the sea hot this week. Cardinals play the sea ox and Drew lock this week. Okay. Jim Harboff, the SEC West goes through Arizona. It does and we'll, I'm gonna find out because it's in Arizona. Lad McConkey day to day with the, the rib injury. That's good news. Uh, so obviously he could put a flat jacket on. Maybe play this week. Uh, the charter's offense was running through him, granted poorly, but, uh, hopefully they figured that out. Jesse Menter said Jacobi Lane will seek a second and third opinion. Why did they already presume they need a third? Because I'm like, we already know that you guys are going to agree. We're going to see a cook and a real doctor. How many doctors until we tell him, Hey, your wrist totally fine. I mean, Doctor two, he loves Doctor one. He's just going to agree. I mean, he fractured his wrist. That part is, I mean, that part is, that's conclusive. Say flowers day to day with the hamstring. That's optimistic news. Hopefully he is not going to, I mean, that's going to be in the back of your head for a few weeks until he gets through a game. Yeah. I will say the expectation is he probably won't practice much this week. He will start and be active. Um, it's just a worry of whether he reactivates. I'm not sure. I don't, I don't, I think he might miss a week. Uh, I mean, potentially that would be smart to just give him the time off. They did say that they left him questionable for a long time in that game. They played the Saints. And then at that point, they decided the game was out of hand. They don't need to bring him back. They said if it was a playoff game, he would have absolutely come back and played. So maybe they give him a week off just to be extra safe. But would he have come back and played injured is the question. Sure. I mean, the, the re-aggravation is the risk. We saw Jalen Coker, a report of him being in a walking boot after the game. We're like, oh my gosh, the leading wide receiver on the week, not expected to miss time. Rolled his ankle in the first quarter. The boot was precautionary. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, of course, it's not. Otherwise, everyone would be walking every cautionary. Everyone would be walking around in two boots at all times. Look, I can't roll my ankle in these things. Like, it's not precautionary. Something happened. Were they put a boot on him? Uh, thankfully, he said it was mild. He's not worried. He's going to play. But at the same time, it is not precautionary. It's cautionary. Yes. Okay. Um, we have Liam Cohen saying, Brian Thomas, Jr. is expected to play in week two against the Broncos, so avoided major injury there. Jordan Mason, sore thumb being evaluated. You know what, Jordan, to keep that one quiet. Yeah. Keep that one to yourself. That's embarrassing, man. Keep that one quiet. Uh, I get it. If like, I mean, especially if it's not a broken thumb, it's a sore thumb. Would you hammer? Were you like hammering the picture in the wall? Oh, I got my thumb. I, it matter. Bruce and I'm Jason. Get it right. If you're running back and you're dominant hand, like you have a busted thumb. I'll put it for sure. A Buston Harry thumbcast. Busted thumb sounds great, Mike. A sore thumb like you. Um, it's stay in it. You know, jokes aside. Yeah, if it's all security of it's stuff like that, you got because he plays Chicago. Guess who returns to practice. Oh, let's go. Trevo. Back at practice. Okay. That's good. They need him. And uh, they need some weapons without AJ Brown. They look like a team that had no one to do any, like Ramondray was okay. And outside of Ramondray, they didn't have a receiver or anyone else there that could do anything explosive. Todd Monkins says he anticipates the Sean Wantson starting for the Browns in week two. And more repugnantly, he said there were some really good things on film. Well, there was, there was a good thing. That one play was pretty good. Yeah. Mike is 100% correct. I, uh, you're in. I guess you're out. Yeah. Dishon water. This one updated yet for him. Start this number two. No. No. No. Wait, how dare you? How dare you? Wait, who's the new number two? Well, no, it's not been updated to you. Number two. Yeah, that was last year's. We need Watson in there. But uh, Dylan Samson significant time missed for the Browns. So third down back Dylan, Samson won't be there. And then Isaiah Pacheco underwent back surgery. He will miss 12 weeks. This was not the injury he missed time with, by the way, in preseason at all. That was a, I mean, this was such a specific time. It's not like he'll miss like 10 to 14 weeks. That, and that's a long time from now to know exactly. But he's basically done for the fantasy season. It seems like all right. We are going to take a quick break. And then I want to play a little game before we get into the way we are. All right, guys, I, um, I decided to do this on the way in. All right. I looked up the top 30 players in ADP or as in the top 30 performing players by ADP order that had bad week ones. And we're going to play a little game. Okay. All right. I'm going to give you a name and you have a simple task at hand. You have to either respond with bounce back or buns. Okay. It's a bounce backer buns for week one. Again, I did this on the way in. I didn't have a lot of time to workshop it, but it's a great name. Um, you're ready for this. Let's start George Pickens, 4.3 fantasy points bounce back bounce back for sure. All right. That figured you'd say how about Devonte Adams is 4.1 fantasy points bounce backer buns bounce bounce back. You said that quietly. I did. I, I'm, I'm, that's allowed. You can say it as loud as they want. They didn't get the one of seven times inside the 10 that he was on the field. What are you doing? The old bounce back. Okay, of course. and love and zero points. Oh bounce back easy. I figured that would be the answer. How about Kyle Pitz is zero points bounce back. I'm just a quarterback. Yeah. I'll say buns because I never thought he was going to be great. Okay. But like if if it were two or Michael Penix as bad as we think they are better on the one route where that Kyle Pitz actually got a target. I mean, that was a that was like a 10 point play. You see two. I wouldn't have under thrown him. No, I think he would have I think he would have got him. I think he would have got him. It wasn't it wasn't 20 yards down the field. I don't think it was close enough that two could be accurate. Josh Downs 4.7 fancy points. Buns. I think he's going to be okay. He was on the field like you were looking for usage and routes and stuff for Josh. But but piercels unlimited snaps and Kenan had a work and scored more fancy. Yeah. Bounce back or buns Mike. Bouncy buns. Bouncy buns. I'm not sure I name this game correctly. I will say he had 94% route participation, which is good, but 78% was in the slot. Only 21% wide. This is going to get harder. Okay. Marshawn Lloyd 3.7 points. No way. Bonds. I have to that one. I have to know who they would play. And I'm not my week two radar is not going yet. The jets. It'll be better than last week. Mike. He doesn't understand the game. I don't want to keep saying bounce back or buns, man. It's a game. Well, Makai lemon one fancy point. Bones. Now he wants to say it. There's only one that you want to say. Can you bounce back when you have never done anything yet? No, he did, Jason. He finished with negative yards. I mean, literally these are the 30 highest ranked names. Yeah. In terms of ADP before the season. No, I'd go buns there. Um, uh, Terra McClaren's Terra McClaren 2.4 fantasy points. Bonds. What? Yeah. You're doing that to. I was preseason. I didn't I don't think Terry is going to have a great season. I think Brooks wants you to know Mike. It's okay if you're wrong. It's just the game. Oh, I don't like to be wrong. Bounce back. I'm still in on. Rico Dattle 3.1 fantasy points. Oh, dude, I watched for today's dynasty pod recording, which comes out tomorrow. I watched both Jalen Warren and Rico Dattle. Okay. The assessment was the Pittsburgh Steelers offense was buns. It was this was the like, when you saw the Warren production, like, well, I guess he was better. It was like, and he was, no, dude, it was just. Yeah. Awful. Also, also when you're watching specifically to running backs, and my biggest takeaway was like, good Lord DK Metcalfe was awful. I told the Andy. I told Andy yesterday that you were in the middle of watching this film and you were like, man, DK's bad. You know, I don't know. It's wild is such a bad way. I think DK was the number one. Like points below expected. Yeah. Like he expected fantasy points. There's like 19 points, something they were throwing a ton. I'm going to say Rico bounce back. He had a lot of snaps targets. Everything you need other than quality play. I got three more names, right? Because I can't, I can't not bring these up a bounce back or buns. Harold fan and 3.1 fantasy points bounce back, but it won't be until Watson's gone. Okay, buns, buns. You are, I mean, you're pretty buns all the way through on the browns. Well, round buns. Okay. Easy. Stop talking. It, uh, it casey conception is a huge part of the problem. Like he's going to operate all, but I'm saying where, where conceptions getting his targets and getting his work. I mean, Sanders could come back in and just be like, no, I love Harold fan and that's where I'm going to go. He's a very good player. He is number two more names. Chandler and a lot of 0.7 fantasy points. Oh, he'll be back. bounce back for him. Uh, let me see if I can give you a tough one to finish this out. Or shot white, 3.7 fantasy points. Buns. Yeah. That situation is weird. We didn't really highlight it. Um, but Bill was like, Bill was the guy and he fumbled at the end of the game and then they just put the rookie in. Okay, John Allen. Yeah. It was weird because this was, they were in the game. I did. Yeah, it's very, very close. They don't see Rashad white between the tackles. That's what that says. Well, I'm saying like they were so fast. I know you like, they tried. I mean, he kind of looked okay, but it's like Bill was, Bill was playing okay as from what I gathered. I didn't rewatch the entire game. I mean, it's a dream show of my guests to celebrate Ken Walker and then call Rashad white buns. Yeah. It's a pretty good show. Yeah. I'm feeling great. I'll talk some waivers. Sure. Waiver wire presented by team mobile. All right. Well, this will be fun. By the way, if you go to the website, if you are a foot clan member, you get access to the ultimate dashboard. There are custom spot starts and waiver rankings for your specific leagues. So they're all customized to your league to your scoring system. You can check those out here running backs. Do we have names? Do we got a lot of backup? I think the people will react to Caleb Black's performance on Thursday night. Yes, they will. They will probably overreact, but I don't think when it comes time to do the waiver wire rankings that you're really going to overreact too much. If you're on like a priority list, I would burn my priority on Caleb Black personally. You would. I would because I think what he established is not, I don't expect him to do what he did week one, which is be a flex with benefits. Like I don't expect him to get enough work to where you're going to start him. No. But what he did do is show that he is that backup. He is capable and should Christian McCaffer go down. He's the guy that you want. I would put him as probably one of the most important guys to get. But again, what's the fab amount for Caleb Black? So I don't think that you have CMC and if you don't, I don't think this week has the dump your fab type of player, which usually week one has it. Right. Hopefully we've got it in week two. Right now, I would say that I'm not going to burn too much. I, you know, if I was to go out there, I'd be like 10 or 15 fab on on Caleb Black. If I've got Christian McCaffer, I'd probably spend up a little bit more just to protect my asset and get him. Is he your number one running back pickup? Is it Caleb Black? Are you looking towards, you know, Tyler Algier heavily involved 17 carries for Arizona, Chris Rodriguez. The snaps were pretty decent. The works were not right. So the work was not. Yeah. I mean, to me, there were like, I think that there is not a guy. If you need to start someone this week, like, oh my gosh, I, I have nobody to start. Okay, maybe you grab Tyler Algier. He's not, he's available on about a third of leagues, probably not out there for most people. I don't think there's really a guy you're going to start. Maybe George Alani, because you have a touchdown opportunity. I know. Gross. I try to play Algier. So to me, I'm focused on the backups, the insurance backs. That's Caleb Black and him at Johnson. Those two guys to me are, they both looked good. They're both on what could be good offenses. They both have historically fragile or, you know, commonly injured head starting running backs who are getting a ton of work. So yeah, Caleb Black for the 49ers and him at Johnson, rookie for the chiefs are the two guys that I would prioritize to grab. But I agree with that in terms of, of just pure backups. Braille and Alan should be mentioned of, I don't know if that's sticky that the 10 carries one target. He did have a huge touchdown, like I call back on a, on a, I think a hold. I think it would be very good if brace was out. Right. Well, I'm saying it's in this list. It's like the only guys I'm confident are Tyler Agier is going to get work. And then after that, looking at, I mean, we are, it's really just backups. I think that braille and Alan probably gets the second most work of the guys we're talking about. I think, I'm on Jason side of, I think Caleb Black was a, like, it's awesome to know that information, especially with Jordan James being a healthy scratch. I think it was more of the report of that McAfee's playing through cramps in the international game. So I think, I think CMC goes back to his very healthy workload. And even with the, I mean, 14 carries is like, if you had desperation played, Caleb Black, and you got that work, it didn't really turn. Yeah, I, I think that the bigger high value touches, it's rare in week one that the bigger pickups are not at running back. But I don't think that, I think right now what you're dealing with at the running back position is backups. We didn't manage options. Yeah, which is, that's great. I would, I would make sure that people are aware of him already, DeMarc Cotto, he's universally available. He's available across the league. There was a super late, you know, this is, I think it was the Thursday before kickoff. No, it was what team he's on. So Dallas Cowboys, who is, he is now the backup to Javonte. Malik Davis got seriously hurt. Yeah. Yeah. And the Thursday before kickoff, he was carted off. Seems like a long-term injury. So all of a sudden, Amari DeMarc Cotto goes from a guy who wasn't on this roster a month ago to the number one backup. Yeah. All right. You guys want to move on? Yeah. And also we do have, we have a lot more names. on our list, you know, Tajay Spears split a lot of work, but he's on the Titans. Yeah, I don't have, you have a Camara, but all of that is on the website. So if you, and you can also plug in your specific roster, you can go and, you know, join the foot.com and, and import your league and see who is available in all your different leagues on your waivers. And it goes farther than just the guys we can talk about on the episode. Would you drop Tank Bigsby, Tyron Tracy, Jonah Coleman, Martian Lloyd Tracy is. That's a backster punt. Bigsby is, he's just like the, these other high value insurance running backs. Would you drop them for black? Yeah. Yes. Uh, I think I would. What was so then to break that tie? Cause to me, Tank Bigsby should, I don't have Kalim Black really. Yeah. I feel like if Christian McCaffrey and Sequan went down completely, they both, you know, were, were they both retired this week. I, I think take Bigsby scores a lot more. I agree with that. I'd rather pick up Kalim Black in terms of more risk. What if he, well, well, I'm not just the risk. Like, we're, you know, we're projecting that part of that McCaffrey will be the, the heavy workload yet again. But if every single week, Kalim Black is getting 12 opportunities. I think you would, I don't think it would be won. It won't be Bigsby every down either with, with Sequan out. I mean, you'll have Shipley in there. Sure. All right. Wide receiver pickups. You do have some big ones this week. I think the two biggest names for me on the week that are in the wide receiver position. Debo Samuel, Jalen Coker, Dejan Stribling is out for an extended period of time. Debo was heavily involved. Six for 48 scored a touchdown, got the classic rushing attempt. 71% rostered. So this is a higher rostered player. Jalen Coker is at 66%. He was the number one wide receiver on the week. I would not take that as, you know, prescriptive for the entire year. But so I'm not, I would not like both of those guys are like well below 20% of my fab. What do you think about the, you know, eight to 10% max? What do you think about the fact that second half of the game, DeMarcus Robinson played 24 snaps, the Debo Samuel seven. I know that game got, I guess I, I don't know how much of that was. I think you have to factor it in. Yeah, I, I, we did talk about the fact of veterans got a lot of, I mean, CMC, Kettle and Debo got very reduced workloads. I don't know if it was strategic, preventative, cautionary, cautionary, whatever you want to say. So in the third quarter, when the game was still, I mean, the Rams weren't, you know, pinching their starters in the third, it looks like Mike Evans and DeMarcus Robinson played 12 snaps. Debo Samuel played four snaps. So I, I just bring up that because DeMarcus Robinson is also a name. What, the, the Deshaun, the Deshaun struggling injury is going to matter. And then obviously Debo got the touchdown. He looked not too bad. But DeMarcus Robinson will be involved. He will, but, but I, you wouldn't start him already, Bo, would you? Because I mean, I, I've done that we've done the DeMarcus Robinson thing. I don't think so, and I, I think the designed plays for Debo are more valuable than any of these snap count. But I guess my point is if it, if it cost me 15 fab to get Debo or $0 to get, um, Robinson, Robinson, I'd probably rather save the fab. And I think I like all these other names more than Robinson. Okay. Devon Valey. Valey Douglas. Valey's number three Wicks. Yes, all of those guys are, are awesome. I think those are the pickups and Antonio Williams as well. How much would you spend on Coker though? Let's not leave that for a second. Cause eight for one, 32 and two, 84% of the snaps. First read target tied with McMillan. Ariards went to Coker. You know, you're talking about a player they just paid money to. He hasn't been healthy. When he's been healthy, he's always flashed like Robert Woods or Parker Washington. Are these guys that once they got opportunities, they perform what about the fact that he's not healthy? I mean, I'm not, I mean, a first quarter injury. I'm not too worried about it. Coker's going to be expensive. He, I will say that he'll be, he'll be a 20 plus percent of fab. I would not have been that. And he is definitely correct that he is. I think someone really on the field. I mean, that was, he'd definitely be my number one. There's a wild game. You got it landed this week. I mean, Coker is my number one. But I, I would cap my spin on Coker at 15%. Probably, maybe, maybe like 12. I would make it, you can make a very easy argument that Devon Valey is. A better pickup. I mean, you still have the Bryce Young problem. Obviously, Taylor Coker had a Bryce Young quarterback in week one. He was the wide receiver one on the week. But the Bears defense looked really, really bad. That game got out of hand and was awesome for fantasy. I don't expect that to be the norm. I don't expect Valey to get seven for 69 and a touchdown every week, either. I think John Johnson will be more involved and they won't run 86 plays a week. So I think both of those guys are going to be a little bit of, uh, like my investment on Valey would not be very high. Because there's just a bunch of guys that I think are in that same category that I can get for free. If you need a start to me, Valey is very valuable. The, the, the Ravens Raiders and Falcons next three weeks. That's the time frame where we know Jordan Tyson can't come back. So he is going to be the wide receiver too on the field. And I, I liked what we saw from Schrock. It got off to a slow start, but he really played some quality ball down the stretch. I, I'm like, with, to me, Valey and Coker are very close to one another. And I feel like I can get Valey. They're very, she goes to guys are close to another. That's how it is for me, I mean, Valey is expiring. Coker's a rest of season value. When I'm draft, when I'm spinning any fab at the top of the season, I want him to be somebody that's not temporary. All right. So that, that's a big differential for me. I would have been, I mean, I can start on TV and Wix this week for not that much. And I don't think that that's a disservice to like it's net, it's worse than Valey. Don Tavian, Wix is another great name. He could be a rest of season. I mean, you could argue the expiring asset as McIleman gets more involved. The same way that Jordan Tyson will be back. But his role seems established. He played 91% of the snaps. He had a bomb touchdown and Wix is good. So I, yeah, he actually had a short touchdown. He had a bomb catch. Oh, that's right. The, the touchdown was not on the bomb. I guess when I'm, when I'm looking at all these, you've got Chris Bell and Caleb Douglas, the rookies from Miami that, despite the fact that I don't feel like the Miami Dolphins offense looked good. Both these guys were, we're okay. You know, Caleb Douglas, five for 94 in, in week one in a, not great game. There's, I still think it's the time to scoop up Chris Bell. He only played 50% of snaps in week one, the figure in the offense out. Like, but I don't think bells, I don't think he's going to be playable for a while. While he, while he works up to speed, it's possible. I guess my point here is that I'm not going to spend a ton of money on these guys. Because there's enough, like I would rather, you know, take an eight dollar. Exactly why I'm not spending anything on Bayley because I think there's 10 other guys. Yeah, I would be willing to start. If I took an eight dollar fab, you know, bid on all, even like, okay, I would maybe be willing to spend more on, on Jalen Coker, but I'm not personally, like super bullish because I still think Bryce Young is going to fail. That's where I am too. And so it's like, if I took an eight dollar bid and I put it on Coker and Bayley and Douglas and Wix and Bell, great. I'm going to probably get one of them if not two of them. I like Malachi fields a lot. He's actually the sneakiest, cheapest player that I would pick up and actually care about. I think the offense, he played 73% of snaps. It wasn't a hugely productive week, but he's not rostered in a lot of leagues. He's a rookie with upside. I like those. Antonio Williams is in that category. I want to have a zero dollar bid on these guys. I'd one dollar bid on these guys and pick up some rookies to hold because we look, some of the rookies you held and we go on or gone to Kobe Lane. Dejan Stribbling, these guys are on IR or out. Stribbling technically not on IR yet, but they're going to be in your, in your IR spot. So I, I just like picking those guys up versus like, absolutely. Like Don Marcus Robinson, OK, I guess if you need a spot, I mean, too, but the injuries to wide receiver, you have to figure out what your team needs. Yeah, I, I think not being overly aggressive on the fab spend this week is probably the right strategy. I mean, you might, you know, you could have been devastated at the wide receiver position. You really have to go get somebody. Um, and then did we throw it, Matt Collins name yet? No, Matt Collins played the most snaps to wide, wide receiver position in the second half for the, for the patriots, he, well, they get Kyle Williams involved. I don't know why, why won't they? They're not good enough. There's, yeah, there's something going on that we are, we are not privy too, but Matt Collins is like, he's literally just the guy that is like, Oh crap, our plan didn't work. Matt Collins, get in there and fix it for us. And he's like, no problem. Let me take my shoes off and get in there. DiMario Douglas in a full PPR is going to be the same story with AJ Brown out. I mean, he was heavily involved in the offense. I think he only had, I did get seven catches for 20 yard. He had seven targets, five for 20. I'm just, I feel like the floor play of Douglass is I'm not. Has to, has to at least be in full PPR because he's just not going to get the yards to go along with the catches. Um, Romeo, Dom's, yeah, I would pick him up. He is one of the drop candidates that a lot of people are going after the goose and week one. Do I drop him? I would not drop him and like I said, I'd pick him up the, the opportunity with AJ Brown gone. You've got a week to actually prepare for like, okay, now we don't have, uh, AJ Brown. What are we going to do? And Dobbs was there other big money free agent. So where would you guys rank Pat Bryant in the, wide receivers. He looked, he looked okay. I mean, the game got out of hands, but he was not a hand at it. Yeah. I tried to get both on it. What, he got three receptions on that first drive, or maybe it was a second drive. Not only having one catch kind of throws the thing off for me too. It's like, was this the whole offense not functioning? You know, right. But they, they led the team, they led the league and pass attempts last year. That definitely picked them up. If they're out of control with their pass rate yet again, we'll see if it holds. But I like, I think Pat Bryant, you know, everything that they talked about with the off season, we said, hey, you know, Parker, Jacobi Lane, unfortunately, he's hurt, Pat Bryant. There might be a name I'm missing, but like, those were the loudest drumbeats of the entire off season of these are the players who are taking a step. The fact that Pat Bryant is a year too wide receiver had all of those things, comes out and leaves the team in targets. That's a good sign. Like that's a, I don't, he won't pass Waddle. I really, really expect Waddle to be perfectly fine. But it's like Corlan Sudden might be done. And it's just be Waddle and Pat Bryant. Are you dropping Jordan Addison? He was a goose in week one. I was going to ask if he's a bounce back or a Buns. Buns. I'm, I think, I think Jeff, Jefferson's going to just hog everything right now. We saw that when Carson Wentz was there last year, how much the he targeted Justin Jefferson, which is probably pretty smart to do. He's very boom boss. He can have a 70 yard touchdown at any minute, but it's tough to count on backup quarterback and then transitioning back to Kyler and seeing if it works when you have other guys you could pick up. Yeah. And I'll throw out one more name I would not get here. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Good. Is nasty. People will not like it, but I do think Leigh Freeman is worth. Oh, no. Oh, no. Look, this is a fool me once away. Totally. That's the Chicago Bears. I mean, he's done that. He's done that for Detroit before. Yes, he has done it for Detroit before where he played with Ben Johnson. I'm going down and knew that system. He came in and played, you know, 60% of snaps played 60, 40 wide to out to inside. You really believe this. So, well, those are facts, but I do believe those, but I would say that he is, he's not a guy I expect to be great or take over, but all the Luther burden. Yes, all the Luther burden love and hype and all that jazz, you know, we still have not yet to see it. This is a guy who played with Ben Johnson for a while. He was on the field. He did as well. That last year for them. Yeah, exactly. Luther burden couldn't be Zacchaeus last year. And I think Leigh Freeman's better than Zacchaeus, but I'm not sitting here saying, I'm saying maybe put, if you've got an extra roster spot, do a zero dollar bid in case he becomes a thing. I mean, it's rare for a guy in what like this is like your tin. This is, you know, like the button said, nasty, but I think he should be rostered in case. All right. We'll take a break. We'll talk tight ends. All right. Let's talk to tight end position. I there's names that matter. It's wild because one of these guys was not rostered in our league of record until the Bowers injury and the Bowers manager went out and picked up Dallas Goddard and didn't miss a beat because Dallas Goddard was four for 77 and two for the Brock Bowers news, man. Day to day. Well, it's it's a kubiak. Kubiak's holy going to play this truth telling. I actually think he's back in like really, not maybe not this week, but next week. Yeah, maybe it's been very, very positive. We should have brought it up on yesterday's show. It's hard because kubiak has he already lied to us. Yeah, I get it. I get it. But I mean, the initial report from others was one to two weeks and then post surgery. They said, Hey, this was a trim. This looks like one of the two weeks. I'm optimistic. You will, we will see the all the positivity was from like reporters and people talking to kubiak. All the reports from people who know medical procedures are like. Yeah, but all surprised me. Yeah, yeah, because the former trims are usually I mean, don't know the details. Yeah, we don't know the details. I don't know if there's like, you know, like when you're getting your hair cut, like, oh, I'm taking six inches off from, you know, just, right. Oh, you're trimming the trim. That's it. I don't know. But you don't want to get a bulk cut. No, I got to tell you, Jay, I don't know if you're a long hair guy ever in your life. Six inch trim off of your hair. That's not a trim. Sure. But my point is, we don't have data on this lot of hair on this procedure. I don't know if they're all the same, but it's usually three or four weeks. Well, here's what I need to, once again, say out loud for goodness sakes. Can I get anybody to believe in Dallas gotter? I know all off seasons, which by the way, case you're curious, this was the Titan three last year. Did you know that? He's a Titan three. And then you remove a Jay Brown. And it's very clear that the presence of Devonte Smith does not match a Jay Brown in terms of demand of targets. The presence of Devonte Smith, he's going to have his days. But I said it last week before the game. I said it all off season. Dallas gotter came out and he's four for 77 and two touchdowns. He plays 95% of snaps. The offense desperately needs him. A guy limit is on pace for negative 85 yards this year. They desperately need Dallas gotter. He's going to catch the ball every week. He's always going to be a touchdown threat. And he's sitting there in a lot of leagues, not not too many because some listened, I guess. But I would get him onto your roster. I think every week, Dallas gotter's going to be a competitive player. Eli Stowers is on IR and a relevant. Did you see? So Eli Stowers, their second round rookie pick. I know we were on the IR now. He's on the IR. Yeah, he's super with his hamstring. Did you see the interview with him? Like it was the day before they put him on IR. He was talking about how he's really excited for week one. He's ready to go. No, this is not an injury. No, it's not. No, this is we don't need you right now. You need to be ready. I'm not ready. Yes, exactly. But look, to me, Goddard is the number one pickup on my list. And then close behind is John Johnson. You know, take advantage of the fact he didn't get involved during the league in that game. He's a go to target still seven targets. You know, I'd rather flex John Johnson than Devon Vela. If it's me in a regular week, I think just a Vela Haiti hates. Well, it's not hate. It's just neutrality. I'm just neutral about Devon Vela. I think there's, I mean, if I start Kendrick born, I might get the same thing. If I start Pat Bryant, I might get the same thing. It's not I don't I just don't think Vela is a special talent able to emerge to be a superstar. That's all it's just I think he's a wide receiver two, three. And I think Joanne Johnson is special around the goal line. So I like Joanne Johnson. He's less rostered. I love. I love. We're all in on Joanne Johnson at the tight end position. I think it's great. He's obviously still rostered in the mid in most leagues, but he's available at about 40% of leagues. My number one tight end pickup. Obviously, if Dallas got it, it was there. Joanne Johnson's there. If I need a start, those are your top two. Those are those are the guys that I feel most confident starting. I would follow that up with actually Hunter Henry. I think the matchup for the next two weeks is really good against tight ends. And without AJ Brown, he might come in and it's just like who could throw a touchdown to a tight end? Great. But if I already have someone, I've, you know, I'm, you know, I'm not really like I have to get someone else in there to play. I would, I would be picking up Kenny on Sidney. I agree. I do actually agree. He only played 42% of snaps, which is on one hand a, a really, you know, it's a reason not to pick him up, right? Oh, he's not very involved. But as a rookie who was missing the majority of camp, when he was out there, he was targeted three times, got all three. He was given a handoff, which he scored on. So he had a touchdown in his rookie, week one. I think that there's a player that absolutely, I mean, he will be picked up in every league. But it's like the upside of him to go get picked up in every league. I think I think some, I think I think someone in most leagues will take a shot on stashing him in the hopes that he is a very highly drafted guy and 33% roster right now. I bet he doesn't give it above 50. I think he'll be a great pick up because players of this caliber first round picks, but the talent of Sidney, you're going to see a workload increasing over the course of the year. We are, I mean, we saw, uh, do we have an injury to Omar Cooper? Omar Cooper. Omar Cooper. Whatever. That first round guy, no one cared about who had a great catch. And we was like, oh, hey, look at Cooper. Yeah, I think he got hurt. So okay, high ankle. So he'll be out for quite a while, which part of the problem for both of those guys was the fact that you just drafted two guys that kind of work in the same way of the field. So yeah, I think, I think Sidney is, what have been, I mean, to talk about Kenyans, Sidney, it's quarterback Jason. Man, one of the best on target accuracy, I think the best on target accuracy percentage in week one. Hey, Jacobi was number one in PFF. Yeah, I saw that. I think Geno was, Geno was in top five. Yeah. People were not happy with the PFF. No way, because Caleb Williamson said 20. What are you doing? Josh Allen was doing. Josh Allen. I don't think Josh Allen was in the top 12 either, who against the number one defense was, I don't know, just perfect. Let's just focus on, uh, Geno, but Geno Smith and Jacobi. They got that one right. Yeah. Um, two other things. I would have been in on Britain's change if I knew that BTJ was out. I thought that would have been a good spot. starts fair. Michael Mayer, I think he's going to get targeted as long as Bowers is out. He's a good one to two week start. And then the muth, you know, if you want to take his five for 46, you can do it worse. And then the question, one of the questions that came in, would you drop fan in for Goddard? And I, I would not want to drop fan in. Right. You, but I look, if you had to play one of them, you would play Goddard. So if you only have one Ross, I probably don't drop him. No, I wouldn't either. I would, I, if you had one, Ross, someone else to drop. Yeah. Yeah. Um, defensive, uh, options for this week. Why not target them browns? The Sean Watson is sure to make the fumbleiest, interceptioniest, yes, mistakes. Yeah. And you're not saying, well, that's the Buccaneers. Yes. Right. Sorry. The Buccaneers defense faces the brown. There you go. The 49ers face Miami. Those are the top two of the week. Packers face the jets. We'll see. And then the chiefs, was that a, you're getting a little bullish on the jets offense? That's me saying, I don't know that that'll be a smash play after one week, but it should be, but it's in New York. I mean, it's not like, I'm not as in on that as I would be like, I loved what I saw from the chief defense last night. Yes. The chiefs looked a little rumbly, bumbly during the, the chiefs are a great pick up. They were my most drafted team, um, coming into week one simply because I, I don't feel like Indy is a team you can't play against. They, they could be okay. But for a good defense, like what we saw in the chiefs, following that, you get the Miami Dolphins and the Las Vegas Raiders. So you've got like a month of a really good start for the chiefs defense. I will shout out the Carolina Panthers. Absolutely. I know they got roasted. It's the Chicago Bears. They're going to do that to everybody. It's about Cooper rush. If, yeah, I mean, you have the, that built in, if it's Cooper rush, then I, then it's Cleveland. Yes. I was like, I, if it's Cooper rush, I might play the Panthers over the bucks this week. That's going to be pretty close. But you get the two for if you pick up the Panthers because you get the Falcons this week, and you get the Cleveland Browns next week. That was the waiver wire presented by team mobile. When you're updating your roster right before kick off, you've got coverage. You can count on just another reason. Game days are better with team mobile. Check it out at team mobile.com/member. Well, it is the conclusion of week one. We're going into week two. We've got a streaming quarterback each and every week for you. If you need to make a spot start, make a decision. Maybe you're feeling grossed out by the performance you got from, I don't know, Ponyx or something. And you want to start somebody else this week. I like Jason's streamer the most this week. And in week two, it's really not usually a streamer off of the waivers. I think this year, a lot of people drafted multiple quarterbacks in this year. This is like, you know, hit the waiver wire this week. There's some quarterbacks hitting this week. Yeah, but like Ponyx, it's possible. Yeah. And I would I would pick them up for the long term, although his schedule is tough. But I think Brock Purti is a guy who's probably on a lot of benches wasn't necessarily drafted to be everyone's starter. Great matchup against Miami. They're 13 and a half point home favorites. And the truth is he's just freaking good. He is super good quarterback. Perfect system. And he is the perfect quarterback for this. Yes. And now he has Mike Evans, a touchdown machine around the end zone. So passing touchdowns are easier to come by for Brock Purti and more and more. We should see more and more George. Yeah. For sure. I honestly, what's crazy is I George really impressed me. I know it's like he got was like two for 12 in the game. Yeah. He's a target for me. But he impressed. He's a trade target. He got picked up as a second tight end by a lot of people. The way that he played the way that he ran. I was like, okay, you know, they got him off to a slow start. Yeah. As to be expected. They went to him really fast, which was delightful to see. But I do think by the time the season finishes, he could be very good. I'm going to throw Patrick Mahomes out there. He was only started in 31% of what knee injury. Yeah. I always impressed. I think that it'll be better through the air this upcoming week on Sunday night football against Indianapolis. We're getting Mike's getting prime time Ken Boehner Walker again. I mean, we got Monday night Sunday night back to back. But this is six and a half point home favorites. High implied point total. Colts were dead last in yards per play allowed last week. I think Mahomes is going to have a couple of big plays. Maybe it's a thwart and touchdown. Maybe it's a screen pass. So he'll have a completed pass over 10 yards. I do believe that'll happen. So I'm going to throw Mahomes out there as a stream. And don't worry. If you're in deep leagues, I got you covered. It's disgusting. And this is a projection. I don't think Kyler Murray is going to play. I love this pick. It's carcid wins. It is the defense that made a quarterback who can barely get to 200 yards on a regular basis. Look like an absolute superstar and Bryce young. It's the third highest over under of the week right now. Look bears were 28th in yards per play allowed in week one. And carcin wins is just its production. It's we love Kevin O'Connell quarterbacks who are at least competent. And carcin wins definitely is we saw Justin Jefferson. I've got rescued. I also think that you could you could attach Kyler here. Kyler will probably be dropped in most leagues. He was drafted essentially as a backup quarterback. Sure. I don't think people are going to want to hang on to him through the concussion. But should he progress because he was at meetings, which is a sign that he may be this week or next. Yeah. Exactly. I probably next. But if he's back this week against the Bears, I would play Kyler. It's a good point. I mean, if he's a sudden start, it's a great matchup. No more fade away jumpers. Yeah. That was yeah, that was the end. That was the end. That's the end. Wednesday. We've got you are incorrect, Andy. That is just the beginning. Is it? Yeah. Oh wait. I got something in here. Oh no. He got something special. No, it's not real special. I got it. I got to get this thing in a better spot. Yeah. I think we, I think he got enough attention on the show today. I think we're doing good. What if I do this one? Yeah. It's Walker. Oh, just, just a musical interlude. Much better. That's actually cool. Take checks. TNF preview. Mailbag tomorrow. If you want to submit a question for the show, go to the website, D fantasy footballers.com. Click the submit a question button or dial or voice mail hotline 3024 464 TFFB. And I want to say this. Look, if you want to support the show, still independent 12 years in, baby. Join the foot.com. Become a member of the community. Find the most amazing people on the planet. It is so much fun to do fantasy with you guys. We are going to say goodbye for today. We'll say hello again tomorrow. Thanks for tuning in. Goodbye, everybody. Thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast. 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