Week 2 Fantasy Football Wide Receiver Rankings & Tiers: Risers, Fallers and Must-Start WRs (Ep. 2195)

This is an I Heart Podcast, guaranteed human. - What's up friends, and welcome into fantasy pros. The fantasy football podcast, I'm Chris Welsh, and this is the wide receiver ranks for week two. I've got Pat Fitzmorris. I've got Andrew Erickson with me, and we are gonna be going through the top 36 wide receivers in half PPR. You guys can follow along at fantasyprose.com/rankings, where you can see the top 36, the top 48. You can see 'em all. You can go through every single one of them, but today we are gonna be hyper focusing on the top 36 with some of our favorite plays out here, and Erickson, you finished very high in the ranks. I didn't actually see where you finished in wide receiver. I want to say that that boosted you up. I want to say you were top 20. Fitz, you always killed the wide receivers in here. There was way more wide, this is gonna have more variance in running backs because as discussed earlier in the week, especially you and I, Fitz, the waiver wire was just nothing, nothing burger on the running backs, but it was heavy in the wide receiver streets, so there's guys like Vale, Coker looks like, as long as he's healthy, has changed up everything. There were so many big wide receiver performances, quickly, Fitz, which of the non-expected wide receiver performances was your favorite this week that really stood out to you. Caleb Douglas, Vale, Coker, throughout a couple more that might be in your mind, but which one is really stuck with you going into week two? Yeah, Coker might have been a little bear's fuel. So I'm gonna say it was Vale and granted the Saints ran almost 90 plays in that game, and there were 56 passing attempts for Tyler Shock, we're not gonna get that turbo field game script every week, but he's the number two receiver until whenever it is that we see Jordan Tyson, and this is an offense that likes to attack down field, and Kellen Moore is the fastest-paced play collar in the game right now. Eric's in the same question for you. Large amount to choose from. A lot of great guy, and there's even some, you know, big like Debo is one of those sneaky ones too, that just did good. What, which wide receiver performance of kind of non-expected stood out to you going into this week two now? It was actually on Monday night, Pat Bryant. How he involved, he was in the Broncos offense, not Quarantine Sutton, which I kind of expected. There were a lot of rumors about Pat Bryant eating to Quarantine Sutton's workload, but to be more involved than Jalen Waddle, who famously Sean Payton told his wife to draft in fantasy, and because Sean Payton hates everything about fantasy football, he screwed over his wife, and all of us that draft the Jalen Waddle, so. That's where we're at, but Pat Bryant, again, a guy that even looking back at last year as someone that they should continue to feature over two and a half receptions. That was one of my favorite props for War of Monday Night Football, and it hit, I think, on the second drive, 'cause he had three catches. So I know that he was banged up, I think, towards the end of that game. So as long as he's healthy, he's someone that I think that we have to consider when we're just looking at this Denver Broncos receiving game as I looked to bounce back offensively against the Jaguars at home in week two. - I couldn't agree with you more. It's like around a 50% slot run percentage, which should continue. In as week one, and I know it took away from Waddle and Sutton, but a 35% first read percentage is crazy. Target share was almost 25%, and they design plays around Pat Bryant. I'm glad you said him, 'cause that's the guy that I think really surprised me that I'm gonna carry over into this week. Will any of these guys get into the top 36? That'll be the discussion that we jump into. Then I'm gonna make the top 12, and that's where we're gonna jump in. Let's look at the big board. Top 12 wide receivers, four week two. We've got Pukinacua coming in at number one, followed by a Monroe St. Brown Jackson, Smith and Jigba, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson and C.D. Lam, that is your top six. The bottom half of this top 12, you've got Nico Collins at seven. Crystal Lave, George Pickens, Devonta Smith, Christian Watson and Cara Wilson. Christian Watson, very interesting name that comes in. Great matchup grade this week against the Jets. It's all systems ago. This is a five star rating. There's a couple of those wide receivers that we have there on our rankings as far as our grades are happening. Five star rating, making the top 12. He comes in at 11. You guys are a little bit split. Fitsy, you're the positive take on it. Let's start with you there. He looked great. I mean, they were target him like crazy. I also think Matthew Golden was really solid, but you have him at 10s. You have Watson as a top 10 wide receiver this week against the Jets. So sell us on some more Christian Watson. He's so good, man. Big, fast, great at the catch point, great after the catch. Six catches, 140, 70 yards, two touchdowns and eight targets last week against Minnesota. Packers couldn't run the ball in week one. I think they have little choice, but to move the ball through the air, hopefully the offensive line can give Jordan love consistently more than about, I don't know, 1.8 seconds to throw because the Jets are really not, that's not a defensive backfield to be feared. So, man, if they give Jordan love just a little bit of time, I think Christian Watson is going to eat once again this week. Now, actually, you don't hate him, but you are lower and he's not a wide receiver one for you. So again, he is 11 on ECR. You have met 15. So, this is still startable. Hard to not start a top 15 wide receiver, but talk to us about what's pushing you back a little bit than what kind of the expert consensus is on Watson. So, part of it is the names around him. Mike Evans is playing the dolphins. Can't name a dolphin's secondary piece. So, I'm going to play Mike Evans. DJ Moore, space in the lines. Again, a secondary that is just absolutely terrible. So, I'm going to play DJ Moore and Garrett Wilson is a target hog. The one thing about Christian Watson, the negative thing about week one, he did not leave the team in targets. So, I do just want to point that out. The mathematical and was the target leader. Now, it's not every single week, but it's just in a variable that I'm just trying to consider with Christian Watson rank. So, that's why I haven't buried a wide receiver 15. Clearly, someone that you still obviously want to start. And I do think it's interesting when you look at the defensive matchup week one versus week two, Brian Flores and what he did to Jordan Love. I think he blitzed Jordan Love around 80% of the time, right? Every single play he was just throwing everything at Jordan Love in his bang to pack his offensive line. And Ben Solak pointed this out reporter for ESPN. Love it through your fewer receivers and route concepts on 15 dropbacks. Because they had to have so many guys in to help protect and pick up all these blitzes that Brian Flores was throwing. Against the jets, I don't think that will be necessarily the same case. So, you'll see more wide receivers, more tight ends actually running routes, which I think could just dampen the target ceiling for a player like Christian Watson. So, I think maybe we do see a little bit more of Jane Reed. Tucker Kraft is now another game back from his injury. He didn't even play a full complement of snaps. So, if Christian Watson just sees a little bit less volume, it doesn't score an 80 yard touchdown. Okay, maybe that's how he doesn't finish as a top 12 wide receiver. That's the only reason why I'm lowering him again. You're still starting him. It's still super explosive upside. The jets don't have their starting safety. So, it'll get me wrong. But those are just the reasons why I have him just a little bit lower than ECR. - The other interesting one is on the opposite side of that is Garrett Wilson. You kind of mentioned him. And we'll actually start with you, Erickson, 'cause you are a little bit lower. You're at 14, but you know, you mentioned Garrett Wilson is kind of a target hog, but there are some of those wide receivers that are out there. I agree with you, D.J. Moore, Mike Evans. I think there's some other names you could kind of consider. You've got him at 14, so like slightly lower, are you okay with the matchup? You just don't worry because he's going to have the predominant. I know you did kind of mention it, but talk to us about just your vibe on Garrett Wilson. It's Fizz, he's a little bit higher than you. - Just really high floor play. And it's just a matter of how much does the ceiling get unlocked with Juno Smith as his quarterback, right? Packers, secondary, don't really fear it. It's just a matter of, well, Wilson find the end zone. Again, he had officially nine targets in last week's game. So clearly the alpha in this passing game, 29% target share could have been a better game, had it up in for a couple of penalties. Actually, it was a 35% adjusted target share. So Juno Smith definitely knew where to go with the football and his name was Garrett Wilson. Just a matter of does he find the end zone, or is this a script where they rely more on the running backs? They like to breeze hall in Braille and Allen. Obviously, he had to touch down, taken off the board on a fourth and one run into the red zone. So I just think he has a really high floor. Just a matter of he finds the end zone or not. - 37, where did it go? It was like a third, here's one, 49% air yard share, which you love to see. And I believe it was a 37.5% first where he'd share for Garrett Wilson. So those are pretty good numbers. Fitz, you've got him at 12 here. So I think you're gonna probably echo some of the positive takes on Garrett Wilson. - I think the reason to believe Juno can float something close to wide receiver one value for Garrett Wilson this season is that Juno has a real offensive line now. And he did not have that in Las Vegas last year. Juno looked really good in week one. He looked like a confident quarterback, didn't turn the ball over, didn't take any sacks. Juno Smith, no sacks, that's noteworthy. The Packers don't have very good cornerbacks. And while their past rush did do a pretty nice job of getting home against the Vikings in Minnesota, you can't say this is a good past rush without Mike Parsons. - All right, we're gonna look at the, a lot of more conversation in the wide receiver, two-range for sure, but we'll give away action here. 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Any type of comment below, make sure you subscribe, win that championship belt, do it. Let's take a look at our wide receiver twos this week. These are wide receivers 13 through 24. Starting with DJ Moore, we talked about at 13, Rishi Rice, Malik neighbors at 15, Mike Evans at 16, Drake London, T Higgins, Parker Washington, Amecaic Booker comes in at 20, followed by Jalen Waddle, Tedero and McMillan, Devonte Adams, and Jameson Williams. Rishi Rice will be the first one we jump into here at wide receiver 14. I talked about this on the running back episode, but past game is kind of rough for the chiefs. Overall, this is a decent ish matchup, three star grade here comes in at 14, Fitsy, you're at 17 and Ericsson, you're at 18. So you guys are both lower. So Fitsy, why don't you kick it off here with your thoughts on Rishi Rice for this week? It's not a non-startable thing, but the definitely is a scenario. If there's any psychopaths out there that play in a 10 team, two wide receiver league, like you could see yourself not playing Rishi Rice, but this isn't quite that range of like non-playable or anything like that, but what are your thoughts on Rishi Rice being lower on ECR for you? Two targets for Rishi Rice in week one. It is a different Kansas City Chiefs offense now. Like they have been using Rishi Rice as a proxy for an actual running game. Ever since Rishi Rice came to town, they've a real running game now with Kenneth Walker. Like they no longer have to use quick passes to Rishi Rice as an extension of the running game. I just think the role is gonna be smaller for Rishi Rice this year. - Erickson, same thing, Rishi Rice, you are plenty low. You've got him at 18. You guys are still like mid wide receiver twos. So we're not like talking about tier differences or anything like that, but yeah, the volume looks where everything looks really weird about it. It was only week one. Things can change across the board, of course, but what do you, what's your take on? Rishi, by the way, was there any guy that had more of a fall in draft season from like the early onset to just continuously just kind of dropping back and back? And there was no, you never saw him on a target list. You know any articles we had where it's like my favorite players, my targets. Like it was never Rishi Rice and then like this happens and everyone's like, yeah, I told you so. What are your thoughts on Rice? - ECR Y was here at 13 seems really aggressive for someone that just had two targets in a game and he got bailed out by the touchdown, right? Now that's part of his profile. That was the selling point for being in on Rishi Rice that he was top five in Red Zone targets in 2025. And it seems like when they do opt to throw the football in the Red Zone, yeah, Rishi Rice is still gonna have a role. So he does have touchdown, equity and upside. I would expect him to get more than two targets against the Colts. We did talk about Rice last week and how his cornerback matchups weren't that great. Even though he was kind of deployed 50/50 between slot and out wide, the Colts. Obviously, half-sauce gardener who's probably going to stay a lot on the perimeter, but I think that he's probably gonna shout on more Xavier Worthy. And what we saw from Xavier Worthy in week one suggests to me that they're not gonna try to get him the ball more, right? It just seemed like every time it was a Worthy pass, it was hopeless. So if anything, I was more encouraged by the fact that Worthy wasn't great, that that's good for Rice in future matchups. And I think that this is one of them that is better against the Minneapolis Colts where, if you look at where Zay Flowers did all of his damage, it was basically when he was not matched up against slot scarter. So I get that Rice and Zay Flowers probably couldn't be any different or any more different in terms of like wide receivers. But I think Rice, especially given that this is was his first game back from his own injury. I think that he starts to get ramped up, but not to the point where I would rank him as a low end fantasy wide receiver one. I think he's a wide receiver too, that you'd prefer probably more in a half PPR because standard you have the touchdown upside. - Rank's battle. We are gonna have a battle out of two players that are next to each other. And I think they're both kind of fascinating for different reasons. Malik neighbors comes in at 15 going against the Rams. And we talked about Mike Evans, who has a five star match of grade going up against Miami. He comes in at 16 for different reasons. These guys are really fascinating. They're super close. The battle is who and how far Erickson, who do you pick, neighbors or Evans? You mentioned you've got Evans kind of high-ish and how far off do you think these two players are? - In the ECR. - That's for you. - For you, I mean, ECR they're next to each other. We know where they are. - They're next to each other for me too. I have neighbors 10 Smith 11 and Evans 12. So neighbors is your battle winner of Mike Evans versus Malik neighbors? - Clear cut, alpha wide receiver for the New York Giants, vote healthy in his first game back. He had what nine targets and he played like 50% of the snaps. That's absolutely insane. Just, I'm always gonna try to bank in on the volume when it's so clear who the passing game is going to throw, flow through. And I think he's just getting ramped up, right? This was his first game back since his torn ACL. His snaps are only going to increase as the season progresses and they're going to need him if they're gonna keep pace with a high-powered Rams offense on Monday Night Football. I believe that they're playing on prime time. So I think that this is just a neighbor's smash. Maybe not a neighbor's smash bot I should say, but a position where he's just gonna continue to produce at a high level. And Evans obviously, he's got to score the touchdowns, which is why I also have him as a wide receiver one, but not as confident about if he's going to be the alpha target leader when you have Christian cafe, you have Debo Samuel, and Bear Spinner Riches for the 49ers, which they can barely do whatever they want in terms of scoring against a pretty bad Miami Dolphins team. - I was looking at concepts, and I think it's nobody from a percentage standpoint when running out of the slot was targeted more than Mike Evans in week one. So like when, 'cause we saw him like starting to, you know, this is those and be scribbling or whatever, I think they're much more comfortable with DeMarcus Robinson being on the outside. And when Evans was in the slot, he was literally just like, he was the highest percentage of target of slot of any wide receiver. So that bodes well for him. But Fitsy, that comes to you. Rank battle. They are next to each other 15 and 16. Who is the winner and how far off are they? - I have Mike Evans wide receiver 13. Malik Nebers wide receiver 14. - Battle. - Love it. Talk to us about Evans then. - Yeah, just agree with what Ericsson said. I think Miami might have the worst secondary in the league, but the 49ers do not seem apt to hyper target Mike Evans the way he's been hyper targeted for much of his career. - So in the comments below, you guys comment on the battle. Who wins it? Malik Nebers, Mike Evans. - But we're both above ECR though. - You are both on both players. That's a very good point. But you dramatically neighbors is a significant one to talk about here, 'cause you have him as a wide receiver one. Both guys hire, but split on which guy takes it. So you guys can have the final decision in the comments below. Next up, I think this is probably one of the, probably gonna be one of the most ass names here and polarizing, it's Drake London. Okay, I was like, "Hey, Drake London, "it shouldn't be a major downgrade with Cooper Rush. "An't wrong, it was bad." And he is now dropped all the way down to ECR 17 on this list. Fitsy, why don't you kick us off here with your thoughts. The matchup seems to feel better. The startability does not. And I think people are very, very concerned what you're taking and where do you have him ranked. - I've got him ranked wide receiver 16, Welsh. And this is a fluid ranking for me. If it's Tua, Tongavilo at quarterback for the Falcons, I'm probably gonna keep London inside the top 20. If it's a Cooper Rush game, again, I am going to move London down and probably be closer to where Erickson is on him. I don't think there's a chance that Michael Pennick's junior comes back this week, but if he does, I'm probably gonna move London closer to back end wide receiver one range. Erickson, you are full commitment to the bit here. You are full commitment to Drake London so much so on the opposite end, by the way, because I'm making it sound like you want to start him. You are so committed that I think you're gonna have a lot of answers when asked of not playing Drake London whatsoever this week because you've put him at wide receiver 27. - Wide receiver three or flex play. This week I'm not messing around with any quarterback with Atlanta, that's not a Michael Pennick junior. Just, I'm not doing it. We've seen this before. I don't even know if this team wants to start to a, whether he's healthy or not. Does he even want to play football? Do we know? The minute that looks like he's gonna start a back, it's banged up. I don't know how I feel about that. So, I get that Drake London is the alpha in this passing attack, but two catches last week for 29 yards. Just, I don't see the upside case. And actually match up wise, I don't think this is a particularly great spot for him either. You look at the Carolina Panthers defense. What did they give up in production to the Bears? 59 points, 300 rushing yards essentially. How did those receivers do? Roman Dunes, I didn't really do much with the burden. Okay, Game Coastal Lovin did nothing. So, they're not necessarily giving up a lot of passing production because the game ship's gonna be, we're giving the ball to Beige on 40 times. That's just thing, guys. I got the game script for the Falcons offense. It's gonna be Fee, Beige on Robinson and not Drake London or Kyle Pitts. Deadlast in the NFL and Pass rate over expectation and week one. Negative 17.30% for the Atlanta Falcons. So, I don't even think they're gonna entertain the idea of, we don't care what the quarterback is and we're not throwing the football. We are just gonna run the ball with Beige on Robinson, give him as many touches until he throws up or whatever coaches like to say. Match up wise as well. Last year, two matchups against the cornerbacks, JC Horn and Mike Jackson, who I think are two of the better perimeter cornerbacks. in the NFL of like dynamic duos. Drake London had five targets, two catches for 20 yards. Week one, Drake London, 78% out wide rate. Not used nearly as much in the slot as he's been using the past. So for all those reasons, I'm out. Out, out, out. All right, last one in this range, another guy that had sky high expectations, massive failure this past week now goes into a really bad matchup, Jalen Waddle. Jalen Waddle comes in as wide receiver 21 after just milk carton performance of where is he? Why is he missing? And you guys are both lower. One of you as him is like the last wide receiver two, that's Fitsy. And Eric, you got him at 25. So there's still a startable range. But Eric, so why don't we start with you? You have him outside of the wide receiver two is you have always been the resident Jalen Waddle truth or it does not say I think you're taking the 10 foil hat off a little bit. And you're maybe moving on to your next exciting conspiracy of a fantasy player because Jalen Waddle didn't look like he was it after week one. He definitely did not. We had a lot of big hits with some of these wide receivers, Christian Watts and Parker Washington. If only Monday night did not happen. He also would have been clean sweep. But it did. And Jalen Waddle was as I quoted in my beyond the waiver wire piece, the woof of the week was Jalen Waddle. One catch for two yards on three targets, including a drop despite the fact that he led the Broncos and routes run 11% target share was the fifth lowest of his career did not see single deep target. So the Davis web experiment as the play caller was not good for the Denver Broncos who just looked totally out of sync all offensively all night long against the Kansas City Chiefs. So I don't want to bury him for the rest of the season. But I do think it becomes a scenario where I think I'm willing to wait and see Waddle get his usage increased before I'm willing to throw him back into my lineup. I think the match against the jaguars is fine. They're probably more of a past fun with the offense because they're so good against the run teams are probably going to attack them through the air. But if Davis web ain't it and we got to wait for a Sean Payton rescue to take over as the play caller, then maybe I'll be more open to starting while but for now he's attentive low-end wide receiver to flex type of play because I don't want to just keep starting him and bang my head against the wall if nothing's going to change. I would expect it to but that's also be being more optimistic and hoping that it does versus the proof of concept that we're obviously still waiting for it to actually happen. If it's you what do you think about Waddle this at performance really is going to like carry into a lot of people's brains going into this week. Do you think they are going to rectify that or do you think like Erickson saying there just might be some dicing is moving forward with Waddle? I have Waddle in two or three leagues. I'm going to start him in those leagues this week. I'm cautiously optimistic. Things look better in a home game against a Jaguar's defense that as Erickson said is probably kind of a past funnel defense and things hopefully look better than they did in Kansas City in front of a hostile crowd. But I'm nervous like the offense looked out a sink. Bone X was buns in that game. I just did. I am very nervous about this not getting on track. I'll never not love a buns reference from a plus. All right. A wide receiver threes coming up here in a second. But if you're not sure who to start and we aren't like here for you. Well, guess what? You can get fast free start or sit advice with fantasy pros. Who should I start tool? Compare your players and get instant recommendations powered by more than 150 fantasy experts. Set your best lineup today at fantasy pros dot com slash start that's fantasy pros dot com slash start. Why does he have a three is 25 through 36. We've got Luther burden Terry McClure and Roma dunes a DK met calf Z flowers Quentin Johnston at 30. The back half is Chris Godwin Jalen cocker step on digs Michael Wilson, Cortland Sutton and Matthew golden. There's there's a lot. There's only so much time and there's so many good questions in here. Let's start with Terry McClure and ECR 25 you guys are split Erickson. Hi man. Fitsy. Lower man Erickson. You have them as a wide receiver to this week. What do you think that offense was about offensive line was about everything that we expected. Do you think they're going to be able to get the ball in a better way to Terry McClure moving forward even though digs was used at decimate and Tony Williams. If you look at some of the separation grades look good. You could see a little bit more of him, but you seem on the positive for Terry McClure in this week at 21. Yeah, McClure and typically does not play well against Eagles, right? If you look at historically a lot of his game logs. He's been touched down or bust in a lot of these matchups. Queen Young Mitchell in this really great Eagle Secondaries had his number. So I wasn't really surprised when you go and look at the box score that being out produced by digs, being out produced by in 20 Williams because Terry McClure and his drawing the toughest cornerback matchup shadow coverage from Queen Young Mitchell making life really tough for him. So I just think that this is a clear bounce back for a number one wide receiver on his team against the Dallas Cowboys. So that's what I'm buying into. Fitsy Terry McClure and you know, it looked bunzy in that first game. There's some other options, but you know, do you think there could be a bounce back even though you have ranked him lower? You have been 27. You got him as a wide receiver three. Obviously a little bit more pessimistic, but is the rank telling a story that you're not selling that you're a little bit negative on him? No, I think Erickson Paggett pretty well that Philly is a real tough matchup for outside cornerbacks. Queen Young Mitchell, now they've got Rick Wallen too, but I guess my reason for being a little bit lower is that I do have concerns about the washing and offensive line and its ability to protect Jane Daniels. Next up here, this is a little bit fluid because the Lad Maconky's situation with the ribs is putting in a question if he's going to, you know, play and if he doesn't play, that puts Quentin Johnston in a better role, but he was a nothing by the way, he's going to go off in week one. He was a nothing burger whatsoever, but you get more Tra Harris and then you would get Quentin Johnston moved into a higher role. So he comes in at 30 with the median matchup. Again, this is you guys split. You guys are split on this. Fitsy, you're a little bit lower than ECR and Erickson, you're on the positive run. So Fitsy talked to us about maybe the negative storyline built around Quentin Johnston. You got him at 32, two spots lower than ECR. So it's not like that negative, but you definitely aren't screaming from the Hilltops to be starting Quentin Johnston this week. Yeah, there was that story about Mike McDaniel putting up wanted posters for Keaton Mitchell and Alec Ingold, guys who wanted to bring into the offense. Like I'm putting up my wanted poster for Mike McDaniel and his offense. Like where was it in week one against the Raiders? What the heck? Like this was an offense. We were all fired up about and, man, total flop. This was an Edsel level rollout for the Chargers offense. So I've got Quentin Johnston at wide receiver 32. I'll move them up a little bit if we know Ladmin Conkey is out, but probably not that much because you know, Tra Harris is a decent third receiver. I think maybe it just gets spread around. I don't know that the Chargers are going to be a team that hyper targets Quentin Johnston. Yeah, and that I wasn't even thinking about it when we were doing this, but like we had not mentioned Lad's name on this because of this. And that's interesting because they flowers is there. And there's a, you know, say flowers is kind of a hedge rank right now at 29. Clearly, if he's healthy, he's not going to be at 29, but no one kind of knows. Lad's getting a push a little bit more like, you know, that they were bringing in. I think Mark has all this scantling that, you know, that seems like he's not going to play. So Lad didn't even make the top 36. So just an interesting perspective on both of those. But Erickson, you are on the opposite end. You have Quentin Johnston as a top 24 wide receiver. So a top two wide receiver, wide receiver two for this week in fantasy. So you feel that Lad is going to be out and you feel they're going to be able to rectify that atrocious performance performance in week one. Yeah, remember, they didn't play all of their guys in the preseason for that long. It was usually just like one series and then they took them out. So it's a new offense. So this can take time for things to gel. Now losing Lamaconky was massive for them in week one. You saw them come out firing and it looked like, oh man, this offense is going to score 50 points just like the bears. But then Lad gets hurt and the offense kind of falls off in the second half and they're end up losing to theirs on a cardinal. So for me, this ranking is just a matter of if you have Quentin Johnston and you don't have confidence to start if Lad is out then why did you draft him, right? Like, like, and I understand that he's not taking over Lad's role in the slot. They're going to do a couple of different things actually think, 50. I don't know if we got the bid, but I bid for David and Joku because Greg dosage ain't it in our ESPN auction league because we need some tight end help. So maybe you could see more targets for some of these tight ends underneath if Lad doesn't play, which is kind of what I'm expecting here. If they really want to build the passing game around him, they can't send him out there with busted up ribs and expect him to survive another NFL game based on the fact that he is operating over the middle of field. He's got to be 100% healed up. So not expecting him to play and Quentin Johnston. We know he is Boomer bust. We know he has big games and he has games where he totally flops. So the opportunities should be there for him. He still had seven targets last week. He still ran the most routes tied with Trey Harris, who I also do kind of like as a sneaky sleeper in week two if Lad is out. So I would go back to Quentin Johnston. He did score in both games last year against the Raiders, who again, the Raiders gave up almost a hundred yards to Caleb Douglas and his first NFL game. So I think that the charges passing attack can have some success here. This final one that I want to do here. It's a battle. It's another wide receiver battle here and it comes from you guys having a lower rank of Michael Wilson. He is ECR 34. You've actually both you have an agreement. You're both at 40. So you don't like him as a top 36 wide receiver regardless of his ECR rank. Obviously this guy is ranked higher in ECR, but I want to do a Jalen Coke versus Michael Wilson and where you guys feel, and Eric and we can start with you. How are you feeling about a wide receiver 3 start of Jalen Coker this week, and then putting that against Michael Wilson? How far are they? - Jalen Coker. - 'Cause there are two spots off on ECR. - I don't think it's even close. I had Jalen Coker 29. Michael Wilson, wide receiver 40 for me. - Okay, so not even close. Fitsy, same thing. Do you think they're in a relative range like ECR says or do you think it is completely different? - Coker 34, Wilson 40. I should maybe even have Coker higher than that. Like I don't know if Billy Bowman who's normally their slot cover man didn't play in week one. I don't know if there's any chances back in week two. Wilson, I guess the optimistic note you could strike for him is that it seemed like Marvin Harrison Jr. was back in that sacrificial X-roll for the Cardinals and not being heavily involved. And that could be good for Michael Wilson. I just don't want any part of this match up against Seattle. - Okay, then quick hitter. Michael Wilson versus Matthew Golden. Matthew Golden was 36 on this list. Great matchup, lead in targets. Fitsy, just a quick aside, Golden or Michael Wilson. - Golden, I've got one spot behind Coker. And as Erickson mentioned earlier, it was Golden, not Christian Watson who led the Packers and targets in week one. - Okay, so Golden, over Wilson. Erickson, Golden or Wilson? - Golden, for me, over Wilson. - Do you have a, Fitsy, do you have Wilson over Harrison? Marvin Harrison? - I do, I've got Harrison 44. - Dude, I've got Harrison buried 53. - Wow, love to see it, love to see it. All right, speaking of some of those low numbers, the last thing here, deep plays for the week. So obviously we're just focusing on the top 36. You guys can go much deeper with White receiver. You're probably going to need to go much deeper if you've got a lot of flex. So, a play that you guys are both into of a White receiver that is not top 36 on ECR Fitsy. Why don't we start with you on this one? Which White receiver are you going to pick? - I've got Debo Samuel inside my top 30. Dishon's dribbling out. Debo heavily involved in week one. He looked really good. He looked spried and looked like the overweight Debo that we were getting training camp pictures of. He is this versatile weapon. And I also think he might be part of the Kyle Shanahan, Christian McCaffrey Preservation Plan. Maybe he's going to be involved in the running game too. - I like it, Erickson. Same thing, White receiver outside the top 36 that you are pushing up and you're targeting to try to start this week. - Josh Downs, the Colts White receivers in Titans were pretty flat across the board in terms of total target share in week one. But the thing that stood out to me just looking over the usage was Josh Downs like the Colts White receivers in total routes run. 91% route participation for a player that has usually been pigeonholed into a 60 to 7% route participation rate. Now part of that has to do with Alec Pierce coming back from his ankle injury. So we'll see him continue to get ramped up. But I think Josh Downs as Daniel Jones checked down option, I think that he could be a sneaky play as long as he continues to play a full time role in the offense. - Yeah, be cool if they like target at him. Great separation rates and he's out there and just like getting them all, but they didn't do that last week. So I like both of those. I think those are both good plays. What do you guys think? You got some deeper plays. You could drop it in the comments below. Also, you can go to fantasybrows.com/rankings if you wanna check out what they look like now, how they evolved during the week and that can help you with some of your starts. But if you really need that big help, the who to start tool, that's gonna get your coverage there fantasybrows.com/start. That is it for the wide receiver ranks. That is all that we have. We got quarterbacking tied in. You can go back and watch running back if you're looking for more ranks episodes. 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