Week 2 Fantasy Football Quarterback & Tight End Rankings: Sleepers, Fades, and Streamers (Ep. 2196)

This is an iHeart Podcast, Guaranteed Human. Hello friends and welcome into fantasy pros, the fantasy football podcast. I'm Chris Welsh and what I've got for you today is I've got some quarterbacks. I've got some tight ends. I've got ranks and I can only do it with the dynamic duo of Pat Fitzmore's and Andrew Erickson. They're the only ones that can lead us to the promised land of what the top 12 quarterbacks can be on look like and what to do at tight end because yuck. So we're going to deal with all the yuck here in just a tiny bit. What is yuckier Fitz quarterback or tight end right now and why is it clearly tight end? It's tight end and not that I expect Colston Lovlin to be blanked anymore but we don't have a healthy Brock Bowers, we've got some other issues there. Yeah, I thought the tight end Renaissance was underway and it seems like we always get wrong pulled a tight end every year. Every time we think it's deep, it's not deep. It's not deep. It's not deep. Well, then there's like a Gisikki and everyone's like, well, it is deep because Gisikki and then it's just like, okay, well, Jamar Chase was like shut out practically so there's that. But I will say funny, when you think about like for us in ranking, you know, because there's an algorithm to the ranking accuracy contest we do, I don't know what was more screw. I think quarterback was more screwy this week because you had like lower in guys jumping in than it. Well, I mean, tight end was bad. Lovlin was a nothing burger. Gisikki jumped up. But if I had to take a look at it, I kind of feel like quarterback might have been a little bit more screwy, more from a rank perspective, Erickson, because like the court, mostly the quarterbacks that you were looking to perform outside of Stafford, like the top 15 guys were kind of like top 15 guys in some type of order. Any thoughts on the quarterback and tight end values coming out a week one? It's a reminder that as gravitating as it is and lowering as it is to take the sexy elite tight end, a lot of them bust is what we saw early in week one except for Tramik ride and that late round tight end hits every single year, like clockwork every single year. You see I say, I like the breaking out, you see Dalton King K, liking out. So it feels good when you draft someone like a Tramik ride and he hits in week one and you're like, okay, I'm so set. He's got to have a monster performer that's going to give me an advantage every single week. But then you look and see where you could have got certain these values in the same thing with quarterback, right? Josh Allen, mega smash in week one, but all the late round quarterbacks too, a lot of them had monster performances, Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence, Jackson Dard, you're ready for this? You ready for this? So check this out. The top 12 at both positions. But I'm only going to give you the crazy ones. So in the top 12 quarterback finishes for week one, Bryce Young was third. So hello, Tyler Schuck was six, Carson wins was 12. So those are some, especially the Carson wins one. That was a non expected. And if you want to throw it in, like Jacobi Perset and Malik Willis, those were both top 15 guys. But then now, now check out the tight ends in how this worked. Isaiah likely was number one, Micah Sicki was four, Kincaid was five, Pat Friarmouth was seven. Bungram was eight, TJ Hawkinson was nine, Cole Comet at 10, Noah Fanta at 11, and Kenyan Sadeek at 12. Okay. Nevermind. Tied in was wildly all over the board. So those are the finishes from this week. That doesn't make it deep. Like you said, though, Fitsy, it doesn't make it deep at all, but it just makes it chaotic. Can I make a quick point about those quarterbacks you mentioned? Bryce Young, Tyler Schuck, and who was the other Carson wins? Carson wins. You know what those three quarterbacks had in common? They were all going up. They were all going up against NFC North defenses, not coordinated by Brian Flores. And do you know who has matchups coming up against NFC North defenses, not coordinated by Brian Flores the next three weeks? You're going to tell us. Let's hear. Geno Smith. No. I just picked them up in a league to stream where I had Kyler Murray. No, we're going to do the, we might have to do the Geno Smith thing. So that's how those finished, let's see what that is to the ranks. I think Fitsy, you might have just live given us a quarterback that we might have to look at. That feels gross. But we're going to go more gross quarterbacks here in just a tiny bit. Erickson's willing to really throw down a nasty name that we might need to talk about because of matchups, but Geno's pretty bad. So we're going to go through the top 12 quarterback ranks on fantasy pros, ECR, then we'll do the tight ends. We'll pick a few names that are out there. If you guys want to follow along, go to fantasy pros dot com slash rankings. You can see how everybody, all the consensus ranks are going to put out these players as far as it as far as starts in Cisco, know that they changed throughout the week. Of course, let's go to quarterbacks quarterback big board this week. We've got Josh Allen in the number one spot against Detroit. We've got Lamar Jackson Caleb Williams coming in at three. Jalen hurts it for that press got and Jaden Daniels is your top six at quarterback. The bottom half, Brock Perty jumping up to seven, Joe burrowed down at eight, Justin Herbert at nine Trevor Lawrence at 10 Drake, May all the way down to 11 to seven, bottom eight are 10 rankings for the back to back weeks, and then Jared Goff is at 12. So let's start with Joe burrow. I think Joe burrow stands out. It's a again, and we keep saying like rough matchup against Houston, but we saw what happened last week. He comes in as the eighth starting quarterback with a two star rating, ECR eight, Fitsy, you agree. So let's start there. You agree he is eight, not the greatest matchup in the world, but you're still playing him. I am worried that the Texans are going to come out absolutely breathing fire this game after being embarrassed by Josh Allen last week. That is a concern. So Joe burrow, not a top five quarterback, but it's Joe burrow and he has Jamar chase and T Higgins. So there's only so far I feel like I can drop him. And people who drop Josh Allen in the rankings last week, like me, for instance, putting him at QB four, QB five instead of his normal QB one perch, made to look bad. So I'm a little worried about making that mistake twice. Although I do think there is a chance that we see the Texans defense just completely smother Cincinnati this week. The the only quarterback that really like justifiably moves their Fitsy is like perty like all the other guys are just kind of like relative like top six or seven guys. But like do you cosine that you would start Brock pretty over your Joe burrow. I'm not looking at your rank, but the ECR says perty over burrow. Oh, yeah. Perty is sailing downwind with his match up against Miami in that secondary and fierce headwinds for Joe burrow against the Texans. Fitsy is finding a spot to still start Joe burrow. Erickson is not QB 14 on the list this week. So Erickson, you are co-signing that Houston defense is going to come out banging and it might be another week where Joe burrow can't find Jamar chase. Not necessarily. I'm probably hedging a little bit because I didn't really move Jamar chase down and my ranking because it's interesting. I don't think when we do the buy receiver, so Jamar chase is not why receiver one in ECR. Despite the fact that we saw the Texans defense give up a lot of production to DJ Moore and Dalton King Cade as pass catchers and I think for yeah. So I think that's kind of interesting where the consensus number one wide receiver has one bad week, which he has a bad one week one week every week every year. Essentially, Jamar chase always sucks in week one and then usually bounces back. So not necessarily bearing Jamar chase in any way, shape or form. But if you just look at the Bengals, 90th highest implied team total this week. Joe burrow is a pocket passer. He does not add a lot of value or at all with his leg. So it has to be through touchdown and passing production. And I think that willing to give the Texans defense of Mulligan, right? They face Josh Allen going Superman mode where he added a ton of value to in that game with his legs. It was a lot of downfield plays that I think the Texans had opportunities for interceptions, for turnovers and they fell flat. And Josh Allen made him pay when they gave him extra opportunities. So I don't think that they'll play as bad to fit this point that they're going to be they're looking their wounds. They want to bounce back. I think they'll be able to do that here against Joe burrow. So if you just look at the projections, they agree with me. It's QB 16 and the projection which are obviously driven a little bit by what the implied team told us are. So that's why I'm a little bit lower and Joe burrow when I look at the other guys in his tier with him. I'd rather start Trevor Lawrence. He's calling off a monster game. I've already seen him dice up the Broncos defense that hardly looks very scary after what we saw from them on Monday night. I would rather start Drake May at home. He adds rushing mobility, Jane Daniels, Russia against Dallas Cowboys, DAC against the Commanders. And then I'm starting Baker Mayfield against the Browns, like you can't talk me out of that. So I'm not saying that you should drop Joe burrow for Baker Mayfield because they're in the same tier. But I think when I look at the rankings and the standings after the week two dust has settled, I think burrow is going to probably be outside the top 12. Give me a graphic of that Baker Mayfield greater than Joe burrow for week two. There's your angry comment short of the week guys just letting everybody know. This is your big, your guys big and discrepancy, I think. Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart actually is not on this list. He comes in at 13 and you guys are on wildly different ends because Fitsy, you are actually lower than ECR putting him at 15. Maybe you've changed. I don't know, but Ericsson top five, top five quarterback for you this week, Jackson Dart. So please, he didn't even make the top 12 list on here. You're clearly starting Jackson Dart over Joe burrow as well. So sell us on Dart. I'm always wrong about this guy. I've been low on him last week, included. And I was wrong. Again, he made me eat it. He looked like he was in full command of this offense entering his second season. But 23 of 29 230 yards, three touchdowns, five scrambles for 34 yards, basically doing everything we want from a fantasy quarterback, being efficient, being accurate, rushing touchdowns, three touchdowns, zero interceptions. Youngest player to do that in a week one prime time game per next gen stats. So I think that. he's slated to just continue on his ascend as a fantasy football darling quarterback. And the fact that he's QB 13 is not even a top 12 quarterback when he has all the ingredients and a potential shootout against the Los Angeles Rams who have to get their offense going that won't be without Miles Garrett, a mobile quarterback in a dome. Yeah, they're on the road, but we know that the Rams don't actually have a home field advantage. If you look at the road games last year for Jackson Dart at New Orleans 17 point six points at Denver, almost 30 points at the Eagles 19 points at the Bears 26 points at New England 13 points. That was his one down game at the Raiders 25 points like Jackson Dart just produced his fantasy points and I don't understand. I mean, I guess I do because I was one of these skeptics of him even last year to where I'm like, man, he's on the road at Denver. I don't feel good about dark. He's on the road against Eagles. And then what do you do? I scores 25 fantasy points every single time that's what he did in week one. And I think it's going to continue, especially with Malik neighbors, fully healthy and ready to go in a dome mobile quarterback. Come on. Top five quarterback. Well, Fitsy, Erickson's always wrong. So you're on the right side of the rule at 15. You are not as optimistic about Jackson Dart at QB 15. Yeah. I talked at the top of the running back show about things we got wrong or things that surprised us in week one. And for me, it was Jackson Dart and how good he looked against Dallas. And I had kind of been fading him in my rankings and it cost me and I'm fading him again. I'm behind ECR and like it's just, I guess I need to see it twice. Well, the other thing, this is like a deep into the weeds thing. But like the Rams played a lot more zone defense in week one than I was expecting. They weren't zone like 78% of the time against the Niners. And if they continue to be that zone heavy against the Giants, it should at least in theory limit what Dart is able to do is a runner because the Rams will have eyes on the quarterback at all times. But we'll see about that. I mean, maybe they play less zone. I'll probably wind up feeling bad about having Jackson Dart ranked too low again when we do the show a week from now. I'm Britt Coleman and I'm Trevor Sikima. 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I just want to ask this real quick because we originally had Baker Mayfield on. I was going to take them off because Erickson's already talked about him. Baker's got him as a 13. This is a question for you, Fitz. So you brought up Gino. Gino or Baker this week. And if it is Baker, regardless, I just want to know where you have Gino when we're talking about some of these deep quarterbacks. Oh, it has to be Baker with the revenge game. Not only the revenge game, but the Browns, probably a past, then a little defense and Trevor Lawrence average 10.7 yards per attempt against them in week one and had four touchdowns and no interceptions. So yeah, it has to be Baker. I'm still ranking Gino somewhat conservatively this week. I've got him at quarterback 24 behind her, behind her head of Tyler Shock. Two spots behind and I don't know if I'm doing shut this week. It is a tough match up for Shock like because I mean, he was so bad for three and a half quarters of that lines. I mean, that line's defense is not good. And he was against it. And he plays a Ravens defense that generated something close to a 50% passer pressure rate against Daniel Jones in week one. Yeah. I say, buns of the week quarterback, I'm afraid that because I think that a lot of people are going to look at Tyler Shock and be like, dude, QV6 last week I'll start him. But I'm like, dude, you might, yeah, it might be a trap. I'm terrified because there are also other options where it's like a Gino. And like you pointed out, like you pick up Gino, that's such an astute point you may wear. Dude, you can pick him up right over the next three weeks if you're hurting a quarterback. Don't play this Tyler Shock game potentially if he lays a friggin' turd against the Ravens in week two. And then Carson Wentz, right, dude, the Bears is the gift that keeps on giving to opposing quarterbacks. Like that's what it's going to be this season. So I think I'm opting for those other options to stream. Well, that's where we were going to go with, was Carson Wentz. So I just want to throw this out and you guys can, you guys are doing a great job of intertwining all these. But Carson Wentz, ECR 24, you guys both have them, it's not that you're like resoundingly hammering the table or anything, but you got them at 23. But Wentz, Shock, Gino, put that rank out there. This is probably more of a super flex thing, Fitsy. What does that rank look like for you? Right now I've got Shock 22, once 23, Gino 24. But like, Erickson was making all these Star Wars references and one of our other ranking shows this week. This does feel like the Star Wars meme, it's a trap with Tyler Shock, it does feel like a trap. And plus the Bears. That's not a quarterback. That's a trap. All right. Go ahead. The Bears' defense is like Christmas morning for opposing offenses. Like why am I putting, why am I putting Carson Wentz against the Bears lower than Tyler Shock against the Ravens? And that was the topic of conversation before we started the show, Erickson, that like, as gross as it feels, Carson Wentz might be, it's not a single quarterback play, unless you play in a 24 quarterback league or 24 league. But like in a super flex, Carson Wentz, there might be something there as far as wanting to start him in that capacity this week for you, Erickson. Yeah. I think that the Bears' defense is absolutely horrible. We thought it was going to be horrible and it might be worse than we even thought. The fact that they gave up so many points to the Carolina Panthers, the fact that their offense has to score so many points, you're just going to get shootout game environments. And Carson Wentz is one of these James Winston type of quarterbacks where he's just kind of sling it. And especially with Jordan Mason dealing with a thumb injury, are they going to be able to run the football effectively? Wentz also adds mobility and value with his legs. He's not afraid to also run the football as well. So I think that puts him slightly over Geno Smith for me, because Geno's not going to do anything on the ground. But in terms of the long term outlook, again, credit to Fitsy, if we're looking at this, the fact that Geno is set up not just this week, but the following week and the following week. If you need a long term starter for the next couple of weeks, Geno seems like your guy, because Carson Wentz might only be a one week rental, because you could see Colin Murray return after this week from his concussion, whereas it's going to be, of course, how it's going to miss the one game where this Vikings offense is going to go absolutely nuclear through the passing because he doesn't get to face the bears. This is just a quick like sentence, or just you can pick the name last battle. So I'm going to go to tight ends. Malik Willis, you've finished top 15 and Bryce Young, who finished top 12. I think it was. They are both ranked pretty poorly this week with Bryce Young coming in at 21 Malik Willis at 22, who would you rather, Erickson, Malik Willis, or Bryce Young this week? I'm going to go with Malik Willis. I think that we're going to see Bryce Young probably come back down Earth because he's not facing the Chicago Bears. I think that's going to be a trend this year, where you're going to see quarterbacks go burr, go explode against Chicago, and then the following week just kind of be eh. It happened last year when teams would face the Dallas Cowboys, just put up these monster performances. They're lasso lag, and then the next week they would just kind of be meh. So I'm expecting more of a meh performance from Bryce Young this week, even against the Falcons. I mean, they're defensively kept them kind of in that game against the Pittsburgh series. Aaron Rodgers didn't light up the world, especially with him attacking Downfield so often. He wasn't really connecting a lot of his deep passes. So I will go with Malik Willis and just take the rushing. You're getting an F on the paper. That was the biggest run on sentence in the history of one sentence. [BLANK_AUDIO] and you read my article, put a period in there. Come on now, I don't, just kidding. Fitsy, Willis or Bryce Young? - Yeah, Bryce Young is not gonna look like Tom Brady again against the Falcons. The Falcons actually have a good secondary. It's just their past rush that's kind of iffy. So Malik Willis, I mean, you get that rushing floor every week. I think he's at worst, even in tough matchups, Malik Willis is gonna be like a mid-range QB2. - And below, and he's below Bryce Young in the ECR. So it's pointless. - All right, let's go over the Titans. Titans on the top 12, the big board. We got Tramie Pride with the number one spot this week. Colston Loveland coming in at two, even after the donut. Tyler Warren at three, Tucker Craft at four, Dalton Kincage jumping up to five and Sam Laporta at six. And the back half is Dallas Goddard. Isaiah likely at eight, George Kiddell. Mark Andrews at 10, what are we doing? Travis Kelsey and Joanne Johnson at 12. Dallas Goddard, you guys have a big difference. ECR is seven, Fitsy, you are quite a bit lower at 11. I guess he's still like a Titan, a starting Titan. And Ericsson, you're insane. You've got him at four. So you're all in. So Ericsson, why don't you start it off? Top four, Titan for you. Insane is probably not fair because I think we talked about it in the preseason, dude. The how do these guys, the wither without tool we have here on fantasy pros? Like how does Dallas Goddard perform without AJ Brown? Okay, we see exactly how it is and it's kind of continue on. So I get the logic of like continuously buying in on Goddard, but talk to us about him for you as a top four, Titan. He just continues to be Jalen Hertz's security blanket and go to guy in the red zone. I was concerned about what his red zone role would be after they changed the office of coordinator this off season, but if week one is a signal for the rest of the season, then it's going to be plenty of Dallas Goddard in the red zone down the scene. The last five games dating back to last season, the only player at Titan that has more points per game than Dallas Goddard is Tramik Bride. So this dude is continuing to smash. I know that a lot of it is touchdown dependent, but it's not like his role in this offense is bad. He played 94.3% of the snaps tied for the team high ranked second among all Titans in week one, 75% route participation. So he's running the majority of routes. He's playing almost every single snap and Hertz is always looking for him. He's been hyper targeted on the field when AJ Brown has not been part of this offense and he's not going to part of this offense in week two. So I think you just continue to ride Dallas Goddard as a strong fantasy tight end. Obviously I get that the touchdowns aren't going to happen every single week, but when you look at this matchup against the Tennessee Titans, yeah, like I think that Dallas Goddard has a really strong chance of scoring. So I'm going to continue to ride the DJ train. - Fancy, when I said Dallas Goddard in the rank, you wins like you were in pain. Did I pain you with audibly saying the rank and do you feel like it needs to change or do you have a negative case on Dallas Goddard? - I mean, if you watch the two touchdowns he had, like the stat line was great. Four catches, 70, 70 yards, two touchdowns. If you watch those two touchdowns, one was a 43 yard catch and run where it was just keystone cops by the defensive backfield for the commanders where it was just like, Dallas Goddard just makes one move and like three guys go the wrong way, past him and Dallas Goddard just like plots, 40 yards for a touchdown after that. The other one was like, you might want to cover that big guy running wide open downfield, just complete breakdowns by the commander's secondary on both of those plays. So I'm kind of fading the idea that Goddard is some like must start tight end after defensive breakdowns led to two pretty long touchdowns from last week. - Well, you're both starting Goddard over this next guy speaking of fades. You guys are fading, George Kittle, who comes in as tight in nine on this list. You guys have both got him at 13, so not a starting tight end. He wasn't used a whole lot, but then the secondary pieces, Tondius is banged up and they were, I think they made a trade for a tight end. So whether that leads to more Kittle or not in his kind of recovery, Fitsy, what'd you take on this? No starting tight end for you for George Kittle against the Dolphins. - It's actually, I do have him inside the tight. I might have put that rolling on the sheet. Yeah, you have a 13. - Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I've got him at tight end seven, actually. I love this matchup for Kittle's son. In on Kittle this week, Ralph, the Miami Secondary is just bad. Safety's both like, the safety's for the Dolphins. It started three games combined going into this year. And Kittle played limited snaps last week, not surprising giving it, given that it was his first game, often a Killy's tear, and that the game was in Australia. So maybe there are more snaps coming this week, and it's a great matchup for him. - All right, Erickson, do you hate Kittle still, or did you also make a change? Where are you at? - I think I'm lower, but I'm probably going to have to move him up, mentioning the Tongus injury, and the fact that we know George Kittle has a tight end one, overall, in the week type of ceiling, even when he's playing 50% of the snaps. So I think that there is a lot of risk with Kittle, just because we don't know how much his role is going to change. Again, in week one, he only ran 13 routes. He did have five targets, but 30 snaps, 38% route participation, 50% snaps, like I said, but doing a lot of the blocking, right? So clearly he is healthy, which is good, but how much are they going to involve him in the game plan when you look at this matchup against Miami and the 49ers can basically decide, we can beat this team however we choose, right? Kyle Shannon can just, all right guys, who wants to score three touchdowns this week? Like that's basically what the scenario is, and will George Kittle be the name that they take out of the hat? I guess that we'd probably lean towards No, but that being said, would not be surprised if Kittle does have a monster game because he does this from time to time. So I think from an upside standpoint, I do think I probably need to move him up my rankings, but I do think that the floor is kind of shaky, but then again, most Titans don't have good floors anyway. So I think with your asking me a scenario where Kittle or Wave or Wire tie that, like I'm going with Kittle, I'll just chase the ceiling and go with that, but I do think that there is the floor is not as high than these other Titans ahead of them. - Floor is lava, interesting perspective because it takes us to the last Titan, but we got to jump a couple of names in here and get it. You guys got Mark Andrews higher. He comes in at 10. I believe you, Erickson, you're tiny bit lower, fits you, you're a little bit higher. So I want you to talk, you got six targets last week. That was nice. He gets some first read shares. What I want to point out is an obvious thing that people are looking at on here, and I didn't say right off the top. There are two pretty key names missing from this Titan list that were drafted pretty high. Kyle Pits and Harold Fanon. They are not in the top 12 this week. Fanon comes in at 13, but Kyle Pits plummeted to 16 on this list. Now, Erickson, we can start with you then. I just want to get you take on Pits and Fanon versus a Mark Andrews. You're a little bit lower on Andrews at 12, but I know Cuperrush couldn't get the ball to Kyle Pits. If two is in, does that change with Kyle Pits? And you're talking about sealing. Yes, it was a nothing burger, but I mean, the ceiling would clearly go to guys like Pits and Fanon over a guy like Andrews. We know what Andrews is capped at. He's just, it's going to be like four catches and if he catches a touchdown or not, he's not going to get that heavy volume. So think about that from a perspective, and then Andrews versus both Fanon and Pits. Fanon, I'm happy to go back to this week. He's Titan eight for me. I think that he has a better game script, potentially for volume. They didn't use them at all last week, which is just kind of like bizarre. I think that he's just going to see more targeting volume against the Buccaneers past funnel defense. So I'm willing to go back to Fanon as a low-end fantasy Titan one. Mark Andrews, to your point, just he's fine, right? Last week, four catches, four, nine yards. No touchdowns. That's why he was Titan 20. But if he catches a touchdown, then he's going to be a top 12 guy on the weekend. As they flowers, it's not going to play. There's no Jacobi Lane. He's not going to, I mean, eventually like they're going to run out of bodies where they got to involve Mark Andrews, especially in the red zone. And I know Lamar Jackson is going to be good enough to get them into the red zone. And Mark Andrews at least showed last week he could catch 75% if I'm doing my math correctly of his targets that went his way. So I think that he's a low-end player and just kind of fits just until I see this quarterback play, work and function, I just don't want any part of these Falcons past catchers. Fidzi, same thing here. You are higher on Andrews, but comparing and looking at the really low ranks of pits and fanning and thinking about what floor is it tied in lately versus upside. How do you sparse these guys out? And then obviously pits, I think has like the higher view on because he was ranked so high and the quarterback play might come in. So how are you balancing these three tight ends? Yeah, Andrews is Titan 9 for me. 72% snap share, 80% route share in week one. And Nosey Flowers for the Ravens. So I think it's a pretty good spot for him. Fanon, I'm kind of right at ECR, Titan 13. I just want to wait until Shadour Sanders comes back 'cause Shadour loves throwing to Harold Fanon. And like Dishon Watson maybe just doesn't as much. So Watson's going to get bench soon. Things will get better for Fanon. Don't trade him away. And then like I am not going to swim against the tide with Kyle Pits in a week that seems like it's a really good streaming week for tight ends. I mean, you've got Dalton Schultz going up against the Bengals who gave up the most catches, receiving arts and touchdowns to tight ends last year. You've got Hunter Henry without AJ Brown. It's just yeah, Travis Kelsey look pretty spry in week one. Just so many. better options, I think than Kyle Pits. So why foresee issue? Four and a half percent target share and a 7% first read share for Kyle Pits. I don't know if it can get much worse, but I guess my point is if you want to play the upside game, you would have to think they're got to turn the offense. Like what were your biggest efficiencies last week? You didn't get the ball to Kyle Pits. You didn't get the ball to Drake London. What should we change this week? Let's maybe get them the ball. So I think we might be a little bit premature on the Kyle Pits things. I'm not going to follow everybody here, but, you know, what the hell do I know? I did not rank while you guys ranked much better. But the, the Kyle Pits situation is like, it's very interesting when you look at the ranks versus some of these guys, Michael Mayer and Jake Ferguson, kind of sandwiched in between. Where is Pits in ECR? Did you say 16 at tight end? Yeah. I also, I'm moving fan and down. I think the point about Shudder. I wasn't considering enough. I'm not so sure that he is worth starting. If, if and when until Shudder Sanders is the quarterback on the center, wait, wait till week three. No. And guess what? Tide end is messy again. Even though Bowers is out, it's a little bit more of a sell. It's actually, it's, I don't know, it's a tough sell. Like the whole argument of get the high tight end, so you don't have to deal with this mess. It really works well for McBride right now. Bowers is out. But some of those other tight ends that maybe would have qualified, like, I don't know, fan and Pits, they're disasters. And Loveland was a disaster last week. So I don't know what side you want to take. Like the high end tight end didn't really work out in week one. Maybe it's going to find itself in a week. So you, uh, so we did get David and Joku in our, uh, snake auction. We, because Greg Dullsitzers aren't only other tight end because of me. David and Joku over Greg Dullsitz. Guys, is that, is that the move? Especially if Lads not playing? Yeah. Yeah. Against the Raiders. I would say, yeah, I would say my board if Latt is out. Only if Latt is out. And I regret not, I regret not tackling Erickson while he bit up Greg Dullsitz. I knew, I knew I was going to regret it. Okay. I knew in the moment too. He had one catch on the first quarter and I was like, oh, and he was, he was the reason why I didn't sweep the prop show, man. Greg Dullsitz. He was. He was 100%. But yet a really good day. Uh, make sure people can tune in over. I'm betting pros Erickson. I'll be there four and one week for Erickson. Uh, so come and check us out. All right. That is going to do it ranks in the books. Who are your guys' favorite tight ends? You can drop it in the comments below. Those comments can also equal, uh, great giveaway wins if you are following and, uh, putting in comments. So make sure you do that and go to fantasypro's dot com slash rankings. If you want to see where your tight ends on your team end up ranking as far as where the expert consensus is and throughout the week, remember things will change as more experts submit there. So just keep that in mind as you're looking and reference to what we're talking about. But good luck in week two. Hopefully you guys take it down. Plenty more offerings here. I'm fantasy pros to get you covered for the week. So make sure you're locked in. But until then, that's Andrew Erickson and Pat Fitzmore's. I'm Chris Welsh. Thank you guys for hanging out with us. We'll talk to you next time right here on fantasy pros. Thanks for listening to the fantasy pros fantasy football podcast. If you love the show, the best free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on Apple podcasts at fantasypro's dot com slash review or on Spotify. Follow us on X, Instagram and TikTok at fantasy pros and subscribe to our YouTube channel at youtube dot com slash fantasy pros. This is an iHeart podcast. 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