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🧠 Week 2 DFS Strategy (Top Plays, Fades & Sneaky Stacks)

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🧠 Week 2 DFS Strategy (Top Plays, Fades & Sneaky Stacks)

The fan discussion centers on Week Two of the GPP season, emphasizing strategic roster building around high-scoring matchups like the Cowboys vs. Washington game and the Bears–Panthers matchup. Analysts highlight the mathematical appeal of these games and the potential for breakout performances, especially in aggressive offensive environments. A key insight is the value of unique player combinations—such as Tucker Craft and Colston Loveland—due to low ownership and high upside. Quarterback decisions are driven by matchup analysis, with Caleb Williams, Dak Prescott, and Brock Purdy under scrutiny for their offensive dynamics and game environments. Running back options are evaluated for workload and injury risks, with Bijan Robinson and Derek Henry standing out. Wide receivers like Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase are considered solid but not essential, while underpriced players like McLaurin and Diggs are promoted as high-value, low-ownership plays. The overarching strategy prioritizes first-place tournament finishes through ceiling-focused, non-conventional builds rather than chasing popularity. Weather forecasts and player health are noted as situational factors, with players like Aaron Jones and Javante Williams being evaluated for their role in specific game environments. Ultimately, the analysis emphasizes adaptability, value stacking, and exploiting market inefficiencies to gain a competitive edge in DFS.

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FanDuel is now available everywhere in the U.S. So you can get in on the sports action no matter where you are. Including these places. Make this your most rewarding season ever with FanDuel. Age and location restrictions apply. Product availability varies by market. See FanDuel.com for eligibility. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. Week one is in the books. And now it is time to set our sights on this week two GPP slate. We have a loaded show for you guys again today. We're going to kick things off with the block party. And of course, jam to win from one week season. We'll then have Uticao from Run the Sims swinging by. Then Mike Leone from Establish the Run. And then we'll wrap up with some Battle Royale talk with the Badge Bros, John and Nez. I'm Pete. Four hours of hardcore DFS prep on tap. Let's get to the block party. Peter's one of the greatest depositors I've ever seen. Trust the process. Let's go. I got auto-matched with Levitan. Bullshit! I just go the other way. In that 66, I've been all the way. All the way. If I had 150 lineups, I'd win too. AP, call spot, bullets to your head like KD. Buss it, buss it, bitch, go buss it. And I have sad pipes with me in Russia. Hey, everyone. Hey, everyone. Indeed. Time to win here. Ready to dish on week two. How was week one for you, Jan? We always do a quick little recap here at the top. Yeah, week one was okay. I had a decent amount of Bryce Young. Did we talk about that game a lot in here? I know we talked about it a lot last week. Where were we at on that game in here last week? Well, there was a lot. Like both this show and with Yuta, we talked about both the Panthers and the Jets. So we were definitely circling the drain on both those teams. And one of them really got home. Yeah, one of them got going. You know, it's funny. I was, well, we'll talk about that in a little bit. I saw Yuta's roster from this last week and comparing it to my roster. But yeah, it was like a good weekend that could have been a great weekend, but didn't get any hits with my Bryce and Coker and DeAndre Swift exposure. And then my main build was not the right build. But yeah, we had a good week for OWS. Had some huge wins from subscribers. And yeah, solid week all the way around. Ready to get to week two. Yeah, let's do it. 13 game slate here. We have some pretty juicy matchups, although the juiciest one was last night on Thursday night football. That 54 point total was looking light when it was all said and done. But we do have this Cowboys in Dallas or a commander's game. 50.5 total here. Chicago, Minnesota is an interesting one after Chicago. Looks like they're going to give up a million points this year while also scoring a million points. And then we have some teams with big team totals like Baltimore. Here, 27 points. These are just kind of at the top here from a total perspective. What are you seeing with the overall landscape here? Yeah, it's an interesting week. So I've been likening in my mind. I've been likening in my mind because I'm home alone. I mean, the kids are out of town, but I've been likening this week to my uncle who only ever dated one woman and she, they were, he wanted to get married and she was like, you've only ever dated me. You have to go date other women. It's like literally forced him to go date. Other women and, uh, you know, he's a, he's a astrophysicist, very practical guy. And he's like, sure, I'll do this as an exercise. And then we come back to like, what I know is the right thing. And so that's where I'm at this week is the, this slate is my uncle where I keep moving away from this one game, but I keep coming back to this one game. And this one game is this Washington and Dallas game where the way that I'm seeing the slate playing out, the math makes so much sense on this and it makes so much sense down a particular path. Of how to build it. And so, yeah, today, uh, talk to you a little bit about this before we get on air, but like, I'm interested in walking through all these other games and seeing what else is out here. Uh, because I keep coming back to this one game. I think it's mathematically, I think it's the sharpest way to build. Uh, what I was going to get at with you to his roster was I was looking through game changer standings, uh, and just kind of looking through Russia, the various people who I respect seeing how they built on the week. And, you know, every once in a while you come across a roster where you're like, this is different, you know? This is not what I expect somebody to build, but most of the rosters look very much like, okay, this is a sharp bill that's put together uniquely. Uh, that was where I saw that you and I had, uh, same six, like jets players and some surrounding pieces, like a three V three. That was a little bit different. Uh, neither of us were hitting with that this last week, but, but kind of like, okay, the roster I'm building this uncle roster is this sharp roster that you see when you flip through and you're like, okay, let me look at the other sharp players and people I respect. See how they built. It's like, yeah, this looks like one of those rosters, but it's so straightforward and so obvious. And so boring to me that, yeah, I'm, I'm kind of curious where else I'm going to end up on this week. Well, we, the chat is loving the, uh, the uncle, uh, yeah, we're going to give JM a few hall passes for some other games to discuss today. As Ricky says here, we also have min cash merchant with the super chat. He took four, four, four on Sunday because of the show. Appreciate it guys. Congratulations. Not a min cash merchant. Sounds like you are a second place merchant on Sunday. Uh, this is like kind of another fun. Kind of macro topic for this week of some of these guys who were duds in week one, you know, Loveland, uh, what looked like a really sharp play. Obviously Jamar chase on paper was a sharp play. You know, where are you at as far as signal noise? What's real from week one? Um, what stuff are you kind of knob waving and saying, Hey, that's just a blip on the radar. Most things are just sort of a blip on the radar. I mean, we were looking last week at the biggest, like highest scoring games in, in week one from individual players across the last five years. And, and there was several players that you came across where it was like, you know, it's like all the things you expect Cooper cup and Tyree kill and, uh, Josh Allen, like top scoring players, their position across the last five years. And then be like Jaden Reed's career, best game and Brandon IAC's career, best game and Quentin Johnson's second career, best game and Keon Coleman's career, best game. And like those all came in week ones. And it's just a reminder that like, you're going to get outliers in week ones. And then Jamar chase is still Jamar chase, uh, Colston Loveland. I don't think that, I mean, we can look through his game logs down the street. The stretch last year, he's a big part of this offense. And so we are game because when you see a team score 59 points and then the tight end that everybody was on goes for zero, it's like, is there something wrong here? But Caleb only threw 29 times. Burden had five targets. A dunes, they had three targets. Uh, it was just kind of an odd game in that way. And so, uh, yeah, I'm, I'm not overthinking broadly speaking. I'm not overthinking any of this. I guess we'll see if we get to any individual spots where I do have some maybe clear thoughts on things going differently. Then the field is, is looking at her. Then maybe our priors were any other macro notes for you on this slate, or do you want to dive into the quarterbacks here? Well, yeah. So just from a macro perspective, the, you know, Houston's still a good defense and that's who the Bengals are having to deal with this week. Um, I think of the bucks, the Browns looked really, really bad in week one. They looked passive. They looked disinterested. Uh, if that carries over to week two, the bucks motivated bucks team throwing a lot of blitz at Deshaun Watson, uh, 49ers, if they're rested and healthy. Coming back from Australia, taking on Miami, like there's some games where I expect teams to handle things relatively easily. And then there's other games. It's like shootout potential, but it's harder to see it truly developing into a real shootout. And last week kind of like tricked our minds into what we are expecting on a week. So many 30 point drafting scores, so many shootouts, and that's not a typical week. And I was thinking about, uh, Oh, I was thinking about this pairing of Tucker craft and who's this other tight end that was priced right next to her. Oh, Tucker craft and Colston Loveland. They're not correlated in any way, but I was thinking like I built a roster with these two on it and it was like, these are two guys who are both capable of scoring 27 to 30 points and nobody's going to have those two guys together. Cause it looks so strange. And if it's a typical week and both those guys score 27 to 30, and we have like a typical number of 27 to 30 point scores that becomes so valuable because it's a pairing of 27 to 30 point scores that people don't have. And I was thinking like, we had so many 30 pointers last year that it's weird to express that because it's like, I can just pick some 30 pointers up off the ground. Uh, you're good, but most weeks you might have two to three to five of those at most. And so, yeah, I think we have to realize that this week's probably going to play out a lot more like, like a normal week than last week did. Yup. Yeah. And I mean, you know, speaking of that too, like Trevor says here, as we hit maybe one more game note before we get into the quarterbacks, he's curious how you're approaching the Panthers wide receivers this week. Um, do they need to play? They need to be pushed to find a ceiling because I know you were mentioning that, um, last week too, right? Like the Panthers are really the key to unlocking these games because it's either like both of them are playing with their pants on fire or a team's just able to control it on the ground there. So what do you think about this spot for them versus Atlanta? Yeah. Well, last week, one of the things I talked about a lot, the reason I kept coming back to that bears game and hyping it up was because the bears are what I call a forward leaning offense. They're aggressive. They're trying to score points. And I saw somebody kind of being snarky on Sunday. Morning and sit on X and saying, you know, if I'm paying attention to content, catching up here, it seems like the bears are the only team that's trying to score points this season. Right. But it's, it's different. Like in the NFL teams are trying to manage how they win a game, not how they score the most possible points. And there was no more telling, uh, example of that than when Ben Johnson went for it on his own 20 yard line early in the game. They were up. I think they were up by one score. They ended up failing on a fourth and one just outside of their own 20. The Panthers go down and score. And it's like, Oh, we don't care. Like this is this type of game we're just going to keep putting up points and they're going to have to keep putting up points. You're going to have to keep up with us. And that's how the bears call games, how the lions call games, how the bills call games. That's why last night's game was so interesting. A team like the Panthers is more relaxed in the way that they call games. And so yeah, it's harder for them to have these huge games without being pushed unless things have changed this year without Canales calling the plays, which I'm going to wait and see. But that's, that's typically my expectation around the Panthers is we got to wait for them to be pushed for them to put up a big game like this. All right, let's head over to the quarterback position here. Um, we can start at the top. We do have Lamar Jackson coming off a pretty monster game, although, you know, his weapons are in question. No Jacoby lane for a while with this wrist injury is does sound like Zay flowers was practicing today in a limited fashion with that hamstring, which is good to know. Um, but yeah, up here at the top price wise, Lamar, Caleb Williams at 6,800 Hertz at 67 borough at 66. And then we got the two guys, in that game that you are trying to get out of a monogamous relationship with Dak Prescott, 64, Jake Daniels, 63. And while we're at it, let's just include Brock Purdy because they have the biggest team total on the slate. So up here at the top, I'm throwing a lot at you. Um, who do you want to talk about other than Dak Prescott and Jane Daniels? Yeah, let's talk about Caleb Williams and let's talk about, uh, well, let's, let me hit on Lamar real quickly. I am a little bit concerned about just how this is going to look against this saints defense. One of the highest zone coverage rates in week one culture, one of the highest man coverage rates in week one. And Brandon Staley is all about forcing the opponent to March the field. And even though the lions scored 31 points, it took overtime and it was a battle for them to get there. And Tyler chef kept making mistakes, giving them short fields. So I think of the saints defenses, they don't, they don't have a ton of talent, but they're going to be competitive and like a difficult matchup, a more difficult matchup than the culture. Uh, so especially if Zay flowers is hurt or hobbled, I'm, I'm kind of questioning how much interest I want to have in that spot. Um, so I'm, I'm kind of questioning how much interest I want to have in that spot, um, yeah, Caleb Williams is so interesting because he's a guy who he could be priced next to Josh Allen for most of the rest of the year. And the big question this off season for me was, did he take a step forward? Everyone's talking about the bears are a big regression candidate. If you just look at the numbers, but it's like, yeah, but what about the human component? This guy is just going into his third year. What if he takes another step forward and he still missed some easier throws and still had some, some throws that like didn't give his players yards after catch opportunities because he threw it a little bit more. They were running and threw it into a, into a defender and all that. But like he definitely took a step forward in week one. And if that continues, like there's as much ceiling on him as anybody. Uh, and then, you know, floors is going to be throwing lots of blitz. And so that just increases the variance factor where it's like opportunities for big plays opportunities for him to scramble and run around. Um, I do kind of see this as like a, if it takes off as like a 28 to 31 type of game. And then we're also like questioning the quarterback situation, Kyler Murray is a Carson Wentz. Uh, we don't know that yet either, which that actually makes a difference because Carson Wentz, if there's pressure on him, he's going to fall apart and bears are being aggressive, even though they're not a great defense. And so, uh, yeah, I mean like Bryce Young's a good quarterback and Bryce Young played really well last week. So we can't just copy paste what the Panthers did over the Vikings, uh, because the Vikings have great weapons, but, uh, yeah, Caleb Williams is, is especially interesting to me up here from a ceiling perspective. How do you deal with, cause I feel like one of the big questions people will have is like, okay, I'm in on Caleb Williams. I'm willing to buy in on what Ben Johnson is doing for offense, but is he now like, you know, some of these rushing quarterbacks where you don't know who to stack them with because it's like, you know, you have Kalief Raymond and Cole Cabette scoring a touchdown. I mean, you just go back to burden and Loveland. Like how, how would you approach that from a stacking perspective? Well, yeah, I mean, that's the problem when you have a lot of weapons, what a Kalief Raymond had nine targets and that's not going to be our typical setup. But, uh, like I mentioned, a dunes and burden combined for eight targets, you throw in Loveland in there and they combined for 10 total targets. The, the big trio, from this offense. Um, and you know, I've been comparing that to Terry McLaurin and Stefan Diggs who cost 5,300, 5,200 and, and they combined for 13 targets, you know, on 34 Jaden pass attempts. And that was against Philly. Right. And so, yeah, that is a question here. I do keep coming back to, I think that Loveland, I mean, Loveland's priced up for a tight end, right. But I think he's going to be 56, 57, 5,800 as we get a little deeper into the season. And I think that burden is going to be building, you know, I've been building a lot of rosters without these bears pieces building around this Cowboys and commanders game. And I had this thought the other night, like what a shame if I'm convinced that burden's going to be priced over seven K later in this season. And then I'm not there. Like when he has the blow up game that leads to that, you know? And so that's kind of where I'm at is, uh, I trust that burden's going to be a big part of this offense and have a big season. And so, yeah, you kind of have to go back to the, well, we're trying to win tournaments here. Right. And so getting to first place, even like flipping through the game changer standings and being reminded of the payout structure where it's like a hundred K to first place, I think 50 K to second, 25 to third 15 K to fourth, like by the time you're down in seventh, eighth place, it's dropped off dramatically, you know? And so that first place finishes what we're targeting. And if we're targeting that first place finished, it's okay to be wrong on one of these guys, if we're targeting the ceiling. So that's kind of how I look at it is the floor. Isn't as high as some other guys, but the ceiling is as high as anybody. And so you just have to take your swings. If you want to go there. What about Brock Purdy? They do have that massive team, total, almost 30 points, 13 and a half point favorites verse, uh, a very poor dolphins team. And it is probably a little more concentrated now without stribbling, uh, Jake Tongas is out. So you are looking at Evans, you're looking at Debo and you are looking at George Kittle, most likely. Uh, what do you think about this spot for Brock Purdy? Yeah. So the only thing that, you know, you watch all the games and you try to not overrate what you've seen, but there's also some things that stand out. You know, I had a lot of success betting last year, weeks two through six, seven, because you start to adjust before the field, before the books are adjusting the same thing in DFS, often like weeks three through nine or 10, or maybe that's my best weeks. Cause you can adjust a little bit early based off of what you've actually seen. Like the Miami offense is the Miami offense is unidentifiable as a Shanahan tree offense. Like it. And I I've been a fan of Bobby slow. It was like, what is he do? What are they doing here? You know? And then the, the offense doesn't have talent. If the 49ers are listed coming off this Australia trip and perfectly fine in that regard, they can blow the doors off of Miami. And I'm not like, I'm not saying anything. That's not already public thought given the spread in this game, given the 49ers implied team total. Uh, but I'm more interested in the 49ers than I am and say the Eagles who the, the Titans, the Titans Browns, the Titans and Browns look like the worst teams in the NFL. Dolphins look like the least talented team in the NFL. So take these good teams playing against those teams. And, and you know, if we get blowouts in all three of those games, well, we know that the Eagles are gonna be run heavy in the second half. And it's harder to figure out like where the touchdowns are coming, where the volume's coming from the 49ers. We've seen them throw it 29 times and seen Brock party put up 330 yards and four touchdowns in a game like this. So I think he's viable. Like again, he's right here next to Jaden and Dak, where I expect that game to be competitive and high scoring from both teams. And we've seen a lot of these games through the first week and one night of the season. That. I mean, you know, we've seen a lot of these games through the first week and one night of the season. Like when you have two teams that can score points and you're in a game like that, both teams stay aggressive deeper into the game. So that's why this Dallas and Washington game keeps coming back to me. But still, I think that, that Purdy is like, it's an underdog to these other two quarterbacks, but I think he's perfectly solid. And you know, Christian McCaffrey is interesting because he keeps popping as one of the potential blocks we could play with today is like, he keeps popping in projections because projections aren't gonna know that maybe he's not gonna play all the snaps. You know, they played them 55% of the snaps. Uh, they gave Kalon black, whatever it was, 10 carries the other night. Um, and presumably that was cause of this travel, right? Well, they've just traveled back. And so, uh, Christian McCaffrey, does he end up with, you know, Kalon black's rushing prompt is nine and a half carries. But if Christian McCaffrey hits Christian McCaffrey plus Brock Purdy is probably the most interesting way to play it because you're betting on the 49ers keeping their starters in, staying aggressive throughout the game. And then both these guys benefit. And so that's kind of where I like Purdy. That's kind of where I like Christian McCaffrey is throwing these guys in together. But, uh, but yeah, I mean, clearly to me, it's, it's Dak and Jaden here and then it's Caleb next. And then Purdy is kind of next up on my list of guys I've been targeting and thinking about. Let's move down to this next pocket. You know, I'll kind of play it here from like 5,400 Bryce young up to 6,100 Drake may you have Herbert within this range, Jordan, love Trevor Lawrence and Bo Nix facing off in Denver. You mentioned the Baker Mayfield versus that Brown's team. And then Stroud who looks like he's probably gonna be without Nico Collins in this spot at home versus Cincy, anyone in the mid range jump out to you. Yeah. You know, Pete, this is kind of a fun week. Cause my player grid isn't set yet. Usually it's set before we do this show. And so I'm kind of talking through decisions I've already made. And then obviously after the player grade kind of play around with things and make a few changes and all that. Uh, but this week, like I'm gonna talk with you, I'm gonna talk with squirrel patrol. I'm gonna listen to rich rebar and high low, and then I'm gonna kind of settle in with my final thought. So it's fun to talk through this and just sort of get where my head's at. Before I make these final decisions on player grid. Uh, I think Justin Herbert is interesting, right? We were all on him last week, speaking of forward leaning offenses versus non-forward leaning, like aggressive offenses versus non-aggressive, uh, the chargers didn't look particularly aggressive. It didn't look like they were trying to set the tempo in that game last week. Uh, obviously Arizona probably surprised them looking as good as they looked, but Clint Kubiak's a professional coach. Like I could see the Raiders being competitive in this one. And if he does things with Justin Herbert, then there's potential here for Herbert, ideally with McConkey healthy, cuz that helps the offense quite a bit. Yeah. Uh, and then, you know, uh, Baker, people have made the case for Baker. Again, Tampa was, I think it's across the last two years, Tampa's 23rd out of 24 teams in second half pass play rate when they're leading by 17 or more. And so if I think that the Browns are as bad as I think the Browns are, I get the narrative stuff on Baker. I'm probably not going to be there, but I don't think it's a bad play. And then I think the Denver, like we shouldn't just change our priors on the Denver defense, especially the Denver pass defense. But we do know that speaking of aggressive forward leaning coaches, Liam Cohen is going to call the game to try to score as many points as he can and put pressure on the opponent in that way. And the Broncos are capable of responding in that type of game. So I think this has sneaky shootout potential, even though it's hard for me to get on board with it on tighter builds. Yeah, and it's funny too, because like Lawrence and Bo Nix, kind of similar profiles to where they'll run a little bit, they can hit the big plays. They have the elements to really get into a back and forth if the game allows and I know like everyone's going to be out on the Broncos after a Monday night football, huge letdown spot. Nix looked rough. Waddle doesn't get going here. So I think you're going to get those guys at extremely low ownership if you want it. Yeah, yeah, I agree on that. Let's go down here dumpster diving a little bit. I mean, shock and below at 5300. He had a pretty rough game until that garbage time. Fourth quarter, you of course got, you know, Malik Willis. Someone in the chat was talking about Carson Wentz here. Could we go back to? Gino Smith, you know, anything down here if you're looking to go value hunting? Yeah, you know, Gino's tremendous against zone coverage. And the Packers were second, I think, in the league in zone coverage rates last week, which continues over what what they've done in the past. And it's Gannon like, but Gannon up to his coverage is zone rates even more coming to the Packers. Yeah, I mean, I think that Gino's interesting. And this is where like last year, last week, being fresh in my mind, all of these. Massive scores, you know, and you're like, I mean, you got 35 from Bryce Young, you got 36 from Caleb Williams, you got whatever Josh Allen put up, you got Tyler Shuck putting up 29. So it's like, does Gino like I play Gino be like, oh, he's capable of putting up 24 to 26. You know, do I think that's happening here? I don't know. It's kind of two teams that are willing to slow things down a little bit. Carson Wentz is is interesting because, again, we're betting on this game environment. We're betting on Chicago. Ben Johnson's had a double digit lead against Brian Flores all six times that he's faced him. Ben Johnson, I think it's four out of six times he's scored 30 plus points and like five out of six times, 27 plus points against Brian Flores. And so, yeah, I mean, there's there's clear opportunity for the Vikings to have to be in pass mode here and in point scoring mode here. And Carson Wentz is capable. It's just, you know, like when you're watching all the games and like that's where you really see the differences between players. And Carson Wentz looks like a backup out there compared to a lot of these NFL starters. And so that's what kind of scares you a little bit. But he's certainly capable of putting up a game here. Yeah. I mean, there's kind of it's kind of like this, right? There's like a clear capstone to me, which is the quarterbacks in Dallas. And then there's kind of like the tier right below that. And then the slope sharp, like it's a pretty sharp slope. And then you kind of have these other ones mixed together below that. So a lot of these are guys where it's like, yeah, I can see it, but it's harder for me to get totally. Yeah. On board with it. Yeah. I mean, one guy, I'm guessing you kind of glossed over him for a reason, but any thoughts on Jordan love? They were definitely throwing a ton. Their offensive lines kind of struggling with the run game, but he was hitting on the deep shots and it looks like it's going to be very concentrated with Watson golden in Tucker craft. Any interest in love opposite Gino there? Yeah, I, uh, I really haven't thought about love much this week and I'm not scared. Of the jets defense, uh, they're aggressive. They play a lot of man coverage. So, yeah, I mean, I think that that's a sneaky shootout spot there and I can see Jordan love paying off this week. Yeah, that that's one too, where it, I think maybe the field just in general was so disappointed in, in green Bay, specifically Marshawn Lloyd and just the offensive line. But man, it does seem like we might be able to thread this needle of the passing game, uh, really just having a ton of volume and attempts there. Um, I'm trying to think, like you said, this is kind of. A tricky week at quarterback, at least compared to last week, I would say to kind of put a bow on your philosophy for this week. It does seem like I'm trying to find the games where there's actual back and forth shootout potential. And there just aren't as many of these, despite coming off of a week one, that was literally the highest scoring week one in NFL history. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, obviously part of that's a credit to Chicago and, and we know that they're going to be aggressive. Right. And so that's kind of the one spot where it's like, if we get this extreme outlier. It could easily come from there. And then we cut kind of from there, think through like, okay, what else, if Dallas and Washington fail and Chicago and Minnesota fail, like what else can take over that top spot? And is there anything that takes over in such a way that like, we're not just overthinking things, right? Maybe it's top score is 25, 26 points. And it's like, yeah, just make sure you're getting a quarterback who produces a solid game. It could be a week like that, but, um, we still want to be thinking about where we might be able to get those tournament winners. Those, those differentiators. Uh, the chat is all over talking about the weather expected in New York. I had heard about that as well. It's supposed to be pretty rainy. I'll just give them the usual caveat that I normally do, which is, I think that's fine to put that in your back pocket as something to remember, but these forecasts, uh, what 72 hours out can change a ton. So I'm probably not going to make any weather based decisions for now, but, uh, happy to reassess that one on Sunday morning. And speaking of reassessing things on Sunday morning, jam, let people know about. What you got going in the scroll. You always have your updated thoughts on a Sunday, along with your player grid that gets populated throughout the weekend. Yeah, I will have my player grid live this evening, evening West coast, and then I will continue popping thoughts in the journal entry tonight and or tomorrow. And then I'll, I'll have final thoughts, uh, like really just what my allocations are and where I'm at on the weekend on Sunday morning in the player grid. And, uh, yeah, all sorts of other good stuff going on. In the, in the scroll and across the site, cascading projections, ownership, projections, projections, spink machine, Sims, all that. So, uh, yeah, man, a lot of fun this week and having fun hanging out on the site, getting ready for week two. Yeah, we will, uh, tap into the cascading projections later in the show when we build our DK lineup, uh, very helpful way to kind of give us in the, in the correct frame of mind, as far as how we should be thinking with building these rosters. And I should mention here, free week is unfortunate. So if you have any questions, feel free to leave them in the comments section below and I'll be happy to answer any questions that you have in the comments section as well. So if you have any questions, feel free to answer any questions that you have in the comments section below and I'll be happy to answer any questions that you have in the comments section as well. So if you have any questions, feel free to answer any questions that you have in the comments section as well. When you sign up for any of those OWS and inner circle packages, and that does include the cascading projections there, Jam. Yeah. Inner circle, uh, inner circle has cascading projections. Inner circle light also has cascading projections. So that's one 29. You get the takeaways from all the articles you get, uh, you know, cheap access to ownership projections and projections, and you get cascading projections, uh, one 29 minus Pete's 20% off. That's what $104. So, uh, yeah, that's a pretty sweet deal, especially if you're not into all the content, but you're looking for some good tools and some takeaways from all the articles and all that. Let's get in to the running backs here with the top plays. Uh, we have Bijan Robinson coming off of, you know, a tough matchup, but he still smashed. You mentioned some of the dynamics there. I will know Kalen black popped up with a groin injury yesterday during practice. So that's something to monitor, uh, for his workload. Uh, I'm not sure if Jordan James is ready to go yet. Uh, Derek Henry and another smash spot in Barkley. And let's go ahead and kind of include some of these, you know, high sixes as well, just because gentees coming off of such a massive game and chase Brown always of interest. What do you like at the high end for running backs? I mean, I think Bijan is clearly the sharpest way. To go Bijan and CMC are going to project the best. You know, one thing we talked about last week was, I think something that people overlook is that not only are these high priced guys, typically the highest raw point producers, but they're also typically the highest point per dollar producers. They project as the highest point per dollar producers. They perform as the highest point per dollar producers. So not only are you getting the highest raw scores where raw scores are so valuable, but also you're getting the highest, like the best bang for your buck by paying up for, and it's just this very elite tier, right? It's the Puka. It's the Puka Nakua's and the JSN's and Jamar Chase's Bijan, Gibbs, CMC, and then with CMC, we have the question around, for me, a question around workload, especially if Kalen Black is healthy, because there's no, I don't expect that throughout the entire season, they're going to continue to give CMC, you know, 55% of the workload. And obviously they had that game in hand, but it was deeper into the game. It was truly in hand against a division opponent, which we've seen how these games can go, right? Like that's still a game that's in question until deeper into the game. And now they're coming back. And they're playing Miami. So like between CMC and Bijan being the top plays on paper, and then Bijan being the engine of the offense and CMC, maybe some questions around that in week two, Eileen, Bijan, Robinson there. And then that also like that, that leads me down, like the next question is who are the players who are engines of the offense and where do we go beyond that tier? So once we get down past Devon Achan, really, we kind of leave that tier of guys who are true. Engines of their offense. And so from the gentee and above tier, like who do I feel is the best matchup and opportunity? I'm going to put gentee in there because of the pass catching work. And that's noteworthy, right? We're a team that has so few weapons. And then you're just asking, can the Raiders keep this game competitive enough? And then probably Saquon, Henry, CMC, like I can put those in any order, but you know, like, well, yeah, I can put those in any order. Saquon, I'm just not seeing like a lot of schemed pass game work. And so- Shipley was way more involved than I think anyone expected. Yeah, and so maybe this is a spot where I'm keeping CMC and Henry above Saquon and putting him last, but like I still am expecting a bounce back season. It's hard to let go of that prior and expectation. So yeah, that's kind of where I'm at there. But having not like crafted the final player grid yet, I would right now pin that at where my thoughts are. And obviously that'll get developed more deeply throughout the day. And we'll have all that finalized in the player grid this evening. What about, you know, Derek Henry, right? Massive game. We'll see if Zay Flowers plays or not. They should be expected to control this 27 point team total, almost eight point favorites. Like on paper, it looks like a Derek Henry game. I assume he's going to be fairly popular up here. Do you have interest in playing the Ravens through Henry? Yeah, I mean, absolutely. But Henry is, what is he, 32 or 33 now? Like we have a pretty long history of knowing like his blowups come and that doesn't mean that a blowup's coming the next week. You know, so like for a long time, I've generally had a rule of if Henry blows up, just don't play him the next week because, you know, he was low owned last week. And generally when that's the case, okay, you have a shot at this Henry blowup and then everybody gets on it. This whack-a-mole type of thing that, yeah, like I think it's sharp. I think I probably have more respect for the New Orleans defense than like the typical DFS player does. And not say, again, not say they're super talented. I just think that they're like a tough, challenging defense. So for a guy who, you know, got a screen pass design, for him last week, the one catch, but like, okay, you know, a guy who's not going to catch passes, you really are relying on these yards and touchdowns. And I don't know that I want to bet on, you know, it happening again, if everybody's getting onto it. So I don't think it's a bad play. It's just like the pattern throughout his career is that I generally avoid him after a big blowup week. One player in this next tier, who I do think is going to be one of the most popular plays on the slate. It is in that game. We've been discussing Washington and Dallas, with Javante Williams. I mean, he seeded basically no touches to any other running back week one. I don't know if you'd call him the engine of the offense because that's Dak Prescott, but he is certainly monopolizing all of the touches. What do you think about a chalky Javante Williams? Yeah, well, chalk is fine. And oftentimes if you're playing chalk better than the field is playing it, then that's a good, that's good chalk, right? So if it's good chalk and you're playing it uniquely, but the way to play it uniquely is to play it inside of this game environment and stack them up with two, pass catchers from his offense, or one pass catcher from his offense and two pass catchers from the other side, stack them up with the quarterback. And that's how I've been playing Javante this week is mixing him into those types of builds. But certainly you can play him as a one-off as well. I mean, I think he's a perfectly sharp play. I've like, like last year, I was likening him to James Connor, right? Where it's just like the talent doesn't pop, but the role is so big and the pass catching is part of it. And the touchdown opportunities are there that like his bad games are usually going to be 16 to 18 draft Kings, points, and then he has a shot at the bigger game on any given week because of the touchdown equity. So yeah, I'm always on board with Javante Williams. I prefer him, you know, at lower ownership or playing him in a more unique way that kind of lowers the combinatorial ownership. - Of the, these three backs who had monster games last week, David Montgomery, the three touchdowns, Swift three touchdowns, and let's go ahead and include Chuba Hubbard in there as well, because he was coming off of a very big game as well. Which one of these guys is most likely to repeat in week two and AKA, which one are you most interested in? - Most likely, let's go with David Montgomery. Yeah, I don't know that I'm that interested in David Montgomery because, you know, I couldn't pull the trigger on him last week because he was 6K and there were so many guys. I mean, it didn't end up mattering, right? Cause I had Deandre Swift and some of the guys who hit, I had Brees Hall who didn't hit at as high of a level, but still hit. So, but Montgomery was a guy that I kept talking up last week because of the matchup against the Bills and because of the opportunity for touchdown equity, because of the fact that the Texans do want to play this downhill running scheme this year. I was going to say Swift because of the offense, but I just, Minnesota's run defense is typically really tough and Brian Flores is going to force you to not win on the ground. And so that's a little bit harder for me to get back on board with that. And then Chuba Hubbard, yeah, I mean, I think fine, but Jonathan Brooks also looks really good and I think they're going to keep ramping him up. Even Montgomery is the one from that group. I would say that stands out the most, but also we got Brees Hall here. We have Bucky Irving here. There are plenty of good running backs here in this price range. - Yeah, let's talk about those two, Brees Hall and Bucky. Cause they're both at home in pretty good spots. I mean the Bucky usage I would want to call out as being kind of a surprise. I thought Gainwell was going to have way more of a role in the passing game than he did. Do you think he's, that this is going to hold this kind of split? Because I would say what Bucky was like, you know, 70% to 30%. Gainwell and I thought it might've been more of like a 55, 45 thing. - Yeah, I mean, Bucky Irving looks healthy. He looks good. I mean, Gainwell is also good, right? So it's tough to draw too much from week one, but currently yeah, Bucky Irving, I think, especially pairing him with the Bucks defense that might be our building block for today. But yeah, Bucky Irving is a sharp play in this spot where we expect them to control this game against Cleveland. And I'm not overthinking that one. And then yeah, Brees Hall, again, like the game environment doesn't look great and you need touchdowns, which I don't know how many touchdowns the Jets are gonna score, but they're certainly capable of scoring touchdowns. I was higher on the Jets until I watched the Packers game. And you're just reminded of how much Jonathan Gannon can throw at an offense. You know, it's not a vanilla defense, which does create opportunities for mistakes and for this game going off the rails. But certainly like I'm on Geno this year and I'm on this Jets offense this year. And if they're able to keep pace in this game, I mean, the spread's not big in this game. I think the Packers are like three and a half point favorites. If the Jets can keep this close and competitive, then yeah, Brees Hall is perfectly capable of another strong game here. - Yeah, if we're wanting to get a, maybe a little bit more value here. I mean, one interesting spot to talk about, it seems like forever ago that Ramondre Stevenson played, he had a massive workload, kind of underwhelmed from an efficiency standpoint. It does sound like Trevion Henderson is gonna be back in the mix here. We haven't hit on either New England or Pittsburgh. Any thoughts on maybe the running backs from this game? Because now it looks like there's four of them to discuss. - Yeah, there's so much continuity. In New England that I'm just expecting similar workload split to last year. And so that turns me off of Ramondre a little bit, but there were games last year when Trevion Henderson was healthy and Ramondre had this sort of bigger workload. It's just not a spot that I want to go this week. What do you win when you win? Not that much. You know who I'm more interested in is Tootin down here because obviously the Jags saw how the Chiefs were able to run against Denver. Denver missed 28 tackles. They're not gonna miss 28 tackles again this week, but Tootin looked good. Tootin looked like a big part. - Yeah. - Of the offense. And surely the Jags are gonna test the Broncos on the ground this week. And so, yeah, I mean, I think that Tootin's interesting down here and more interesting to me than the Patriots running backs. - Yeah, that's a good shout there. 15 for 66. Did have the nice catch in the receiving game as well. Seems to be showing a little more juice than Chris Rodriguez. One guy we have to talk about who's gonna be stepping into a big workload and is underpriced relative to this. I think, you know, his salaries got locked before we learned that Jordan Mason was gonna be placed on short-term IR. That's Aaron Jones here, 5,100, going against the Chicago team that just got, you know, lit up by Chuba as well. What do you think about Aaron Jones here? - Yeah, I've got Aaron Jones kind of penciled in for eight to nine points before touchdowns is like his reasonable range. So that's maybe about 70 rushing yards and 60, 70 rushing yards, and then two to three points through the air. But he's capable of getting up to 12, 13 points, before touchdowns. He's capable of scoring a touchdown. He's capable of scoring multiple touchdowns. He's kind of one of these don't overthink it type of plays. Like he's in terms, like Michael Mayer last week, like his chances of burying you for not having played him are pretty low, but they exist. And his chances of killing you for playing him are also pretty low. So he's one of these plays that if he makes something work on your roster, he's a sharp play. It's just that we're gonna have a lot of Aaron Jones plus Bijan Robinson, plus one of these stacks, plus whatever, right? And so it's gonna make your roster look a lot like other rosters. So you have to think about how am I clearing out a path to first place? Especially if you're in a contest of 8,000, 10,000 entries, you really have to start thinking about how I can do something different from the field. And so maybe that's pivoting over to one of these 5K wide receivers or pivoting over to, like I said, the Tucker Craft and Colston Loveland pairing, where it's like, hey, these are two guys priced right next to Aaron Jones, both of whom could outscore Aaron Jones. And the people who are playing, playing Aaron Jones may not have these guys on their rosters. Very few people have both these guys on their roster. So yeah, I mean, it's kind of how I'm looking at Aaron Jones is this pivot point of like, if you choose him, you're really not making much of a statement. If you move off them, how are you moving off of him? And how are you gaining an edge with that? - One more I wanna mention, just because we have been talking about this game, is Bill, Ja'Cory Crosky, Merritt. He had 16 attempts there. He did have the fumble, which led to him getting pulled and Katron Allen actually got a goal line carry, but assuming the ball security issues don't factor in, is he similar to Devontae where it's like, I'm interested, but really only as a game environment play. Yeah. That's how I've been playing him. Um, I like, I, I can't see myself pulling him out as a one-off, but I certainly can see playing him as part of a bet on that game environment. One more here before we move on to wide receiver, Aaron, wanting to know some thoughts about Jadarian prices, you know, potentially a pivot if everyone's gravitating to Aaron Jones in this range. Yeah. I mean, the past game work isn't like likely to be large and Halani still getting touches, but he looked good. Um, yeah, I mean, he's a guy I've clicked a bunch and been like, eh, maybe, maybe. Um, and so yeah, down in this price range, the thing is generally speaking, just like price pivoting from one running back to another and pivoting to the guy who projects lower is going to lose you money over time. Right. Even though it's the lower owned guy, uh, just the straight pivot isn't strategically going to make you as much money over time as like finding more unique ways to come about things. But is he capable of putting up like a 25 to 30 point game would be my question. I think it's an outside shot. But it's certainly in the books that it can happen. All right. I did put in the chat earlier, a poll your week to quarterback Dak Jaden or third option hall pass. We have 33% have said Dak 23% said Jaden in 44% are taking the hall pass. Yeah. We got the uncle hall pass week. I mean, it shows you how strong Dak and Jaden are as plays at 50% want a quarterback from that game and only a less than 50% taking the, uh, the hall pass there. Um, all right, let's head over to the wide receiver position. Um, we have JSN back on the main slate. After not having that last week, we have Justin Jefferson coming off of a monster game with Carson Wentz, uh, Jamar chase. Do we get the bounce back spot? And then we can kind of get into the mid range where we have all of these Q tags, but how about there at the top, the LSU guys, JSN, who's your favorite? Yeah. The, uh, Justin Jefferson and Jackson Smith and above Jamar chase for me, because again, we're trying to get the tournament winners. Can Jamar chase hit a tournament winner here? Yes, but I'm not going to place the bet on it against, uh, Stingley and Lassiter. Um, Justin Jefferson, again, you're relying on Carson Wentz as JSN you're relying on drew lock. So those are the questions there. It's a week where like you could certainly paint a picture of not meeting one of these high priced wide receivers needing means one of these guys going for 30 plus on a week where we don't get a ton of 30 plus point or one of these guys going for 40, where you genuinely had to have it. And you could paint a picture of none of these three guys going over 30 points. So I've certainly built plenty of rosters without these guys. I've also tried to build with JSN and Justin Jefferson. I built a roster last night with JSN, Justin Jefferson and CD lamb, because you're trying to think about, okay, if the points do flow here at the top, what's a unique way to put this together. But, uh, but yeah, like I think the JSN and, and Justin Jefferson, like they're basically in similar buckets, except that, uh, Justin Jefferson's likelier to be in a position where his team is chasing points. Um, but we probably see eight to 11 targets for both guys and both guys have a clear opportunity to hit on that number of targets, but you'd like it to be more targets to feel really confident in the bet. Um, so yeah, I'll leave it at that. They're, they're solid plays, but not like plays that you have to move around pieces to make sure that you have either looking at this next grouping, just for the purposes of this conversation, I'm going and based on some of the tweets I was just seeing there, they're saying Z flowers barely did anything at practice today, just kind of standing around. So let's, let's kind of work under the assumption that those guys don't play. We can work under the assumption that a lobby does play. Um, I assume lamb in pickings are of interest to you in that game. Um, maybe we just talk about the wide receivers in that game. Let's toss McLaurin in digs in there. Uh, how are you feeling about those guys? Yeah, well, let's talk about this game for a moment. So there's a few things in this game, right? You're not going to come away from this game feeling stupid for having played it, which is nice. You know, like you're going to come away from this game and have gotten points. It's been, I think like week 11 of Jaden Daniels rookie year was the last time he scored under 16 draft Kings points, but he's also gone 10 straight games without scoring more than 25.1. Um, the cut, like, yeah, it's, it's this game where it's like the, the floor is really high and the ceiling is as high as any other games on the slate, which is why the math looks so good to me. Floor doesn't matter, but there's this component of if your stack can fail and you can still finish in the money, then that's a few extra times per season or per couple seasons where you're scooping that min cash payout instead of finishing below it. So you never want to prioritize that over ceiling, but when the ceiling is the same and the chances of hitting ceiling are the same and the floor is higher than like over time, you're just making more money on that type of roster. So that's kind of where I'm at with this, but in terms of where this could fall apart, what I'm typically watching for early in the season, when I'm watching games is how the teams are calling their plays on first and second down, how the defenses are calling their defenses on first and second down. And our teams staying consistently ahead of the change, are they consistently getting into third and short? The commanders seemed to have no plan for that in week one, when David Blough's offense, it was like first and 10, second and 10, third and 12, you know, first and 10, second and 10, third and nine. And so, it was all like, let's try to pick up 10 yards on a play as opposed to let's set ourselves up for third down, convert, set ourselves up for third down, convert. So then I looked it up and they had negative EPA on seven of their first eight Jaden Daniels dropbacks on first downs. And so that's the concern here is like Jaden Daniels hasn't put up a huge game since 2024. Obviously he was injured for a lot of last year, but he still played whatever it was, six or seven games. And then this offense just didn't look great in week one. So, that's where it ends up falling apart is in that regard, because even though the Cowboys always score points at home and, and have this great offense, like they're not tremendously aggressive if they have this game in hand, they're going to be leaning on the, on the ground game, trying to close things out that way and manage their lead. And so, yeah, I can see like, there's no way this game finishes way to the downside, but there are ways it doesn't finish to the upside is what I'm getting at. Again, still my favorite game. I'm just trying to paint the picture of how it might fail. McLaurin and Diggs are two of the most ridiculously underpriced plays on the slate. Like both these guys are going to be over 6k later in the season. One of them is going to be over 6,500. And so, yeah, I mean, I think that both of those guys are incredibly sharp ways to play the slate, playing them together. I'll have a bunch of numbers in the player grid around like McLaurin plus Jaden Daniels around projections and expectations based on like scoring ranges for them and all that. But, but yeah, they're just both super sharp plays. And so are, so are CeeDee Lamb and, and Pickens. And like most of my rosters, you know, have been my uncle's wife and I've just been throwing all these guys in, in various ways. And so, you know, now we're trying to find that whole pass and see what else is out there. Let me ask you a question. I think I asked last week as well, just because so much of the pass catcher stuff is driven by quarterback stacking and gave him game environment plays. Um, what wide receivers this week could you see playing in an isolated fashion? One-off plays just, you like, you know, whether they're points per dollar or you like their setup. Well, Garrett Wilson, um, the Chargers wide receiver, so Ladd McConkie, if he's healthy, um, and Quinton Johnston, if he's not, honestly, Quinton Johnston, either way, uh, the Bears receivers, because Caleb Williams is so expensive and these guys are so inexpensive that if they hit, then that doesn't necessarily mean that you needed Caleb Williams on this lane. That's what we were looking at in cascading projections last week, right? It's like you pin Jamar Chase at 36 points and it reminds you, you should be playing Burrow in those games. Um, it's going to be a little bit different for the bears wide receivers. Um, the Packers wide receivers are also on that list. And, uh, we got news that it's going to be Cooper rush. So I take Drake London off, but otherwise he would have been on that list. Those are the guys off the top of my head that I think of when you ask that question. Yeah. Matthew Golden looks too cheap to me down there at 4,700. He actually sneakily had a better role than even Christian Watson, uh, in week one, of that passing game. Uh, what about Parker Washington? Um, you know, pretty good role. You'd like to see his routes come up a tick, but he had that awesome catch and just like a clear focal point of the passing game there. Yeah. I mean, I can see him having a good game. I'm never going to, uh, like if I get beat by a wide receiver against Denver, like I'm not going to be beating myself up for not having considered that guy. Cause for me, everything's about stacking the math in my favor. And then I'm mostly playing contests of 5,000 or fewer entries. So yeah, the larger the tournament field and the lower the ownership, then the more value there is on somebody like that. But you always look at it as the risk you're taking. And then what do you win when you win? So you would want him to be able to put up a score that other people needed to have. So 28 to 30 points. And that's just not a bet that I'm going to place against Denver this week. What about some of these guys who might be more value plays opening up because of injuries? I'll toss out like Xavier Hutchinson at 3,500. If Nico doesn't go, I'll toss out Trey Harrison at 4k. I know you mentioned, um, QJ there. Um, you know, any of these guys, maybe Rashad Bateman, if Zay doesn't go, just curious if there's any value that you'd be interested in, if it opens up. Yeah. What's been fun about digging into stuff with cascading projections is just continually being reminded of, of how small the roles are for wide receiver twos and even like wide receiver three types that step into wide receiver two roles. So all of those are like larger field dart throws. to me and not something that i'm building a roster around that's those are spots where it's like okay i need somebody what do i do and we're down in the price range too where um like hunter henry and and a.j brown's out you know demario douglas actually and a.j brown is out or uh jake ferguson where washington was top five in zone coverage rates in week one does that hold we'll see but uh jake ferguson is is one of the biggest like man versus zone gains gains ground versus zone coverage and actually cd lamb and uh and george pickens are both two of like the biggest guys you see a biggest like step down from man coverage to zone now they're still really good against zone coverage so like i'm not going to worry about that too much the point is like things point toward a game where jake ferguson could end up putting up 16 17 points at 3800 and so you know if you're getting down here um i think that there's ways to get down here besides just the the injury stuff and then uh kashon booty would be the guy that i would go to on houston but i also have a lot of respect for the cincy corner so i don't think i'm going there at all in the first place um we did talk about bryce young a little bit curious your thoughts on panthers wide receivers i mean coker looked like a revelation week one is that one of those things where it's like okay this is a breakout player for 2026 or is this something where we might be chasing week one a bit too much and maybe ted arroyo mcmillan is still the play there for the panthers yeah so this is one where i think you just have to be clear-eyed about what you're betting on you would be betting on the panthers offense being um like philosophically different from past years and that could be the case because canalis isn't calling plays anymore but he's still the head coach who's kind of in charge of how they attack a game so that's not a bet that i want to place i'm taking last week's game as a game where they were forced into a certain type of game and they they played to that type of game we've seen them do that in the past that was why bryce young was a guy i kept bringing up last week was because we've seen him put up 30 plus draft kings points when he's been forced into that type of game it's harder for me to see against cooper rush and the falcons them proactively creating that type of game so that's how i'm approaching it but if you play those guys to me yeah it's a bet on the panthers being philosophically different this year than they were in the past any other wide receivers you want to hit on before we head over to your favorite position the tight end position we got to bring you know it back yeah so uh adenai mitchell as a ceiling play since we're down here on these cheap guys and then um don't throw anything at me uh these browns pass catchers i i think are kind of interesting because there's just volume there and they're cheap you know what i mean yeah uh so that's harold fannin and casey concepcion and david boston like there's targets to be had here i don't know that i'm actually going to get there but last night i was building those kind of where i was down in the hunter henry and demario douglas and all that it was like uh you know building a roster i needed something under 4200 um to make it work and yeah i just started thinking about those all these cleveland guys who are down here uh in ppr scoring are they going to win you a tournament probably not but uh yeah at least worth mentioning yeah no they did and like i think all three of them um had the same target share was like 18 or 19 percent target share and it was really uh harold fannin that kind of took the back seat with boston and casey concepcion and casey concepcion stepping up but yes uh you should duck anytime you mention jerry judy i have learned that for sure um all right let's move over to the tight end position i also just want to mention a couple more shows the rest of this weekend we'll obviously have utical leonie and the badge bros on today's streaming block uh tomorrow night i'm doing after dark i'm gonna have sam brought from establish the run really sharp gpp player excited to talk to him about sims and the slate that'll be a fun conversation and then sunday morning as always i'll see you guys next week bye we'll have the cram we'll get your weather updates updated you know inactives all of that good stuff if you become a youtube member hand builder and opto bro you'll get access to both of those shows as well as a fan duel free roll i'll talk a little bit about that more in the show but get access to that as well jam let's head over to tight end i mean the two biggest kind of narratives coming out of last week at the top you have trey mcbride who looks like an absolute crusher the true focal point of that offense and they have colson loveland who uh everyone was excited to play look like a smash bot was a smash bot but he has a bagel uh but we do have the 92 route rate to hang our hat on what do you like at the high end at tight end yeah i i think um really any of these guys 4600 and above you can make a case for them um mcbride again like do you get the i love mcbride and he's 6900 and he's underpriced for what he produces like across his last 10 games like no he should be priced and christian mccaffrey and you can look at the numbers and it's like it's true and then the positional value of being at tight end maybe you could price them even higher um against seattle am i going there i haven't yet but i certainly like can see it being a solid play it's similar to last week in that if like if i don't have trey mcbride i'm not going to be sweating in the late games like oh god i hope he doesn't crush me you know um because he can put up 22 26 something like that but i don't think he's going to put up 33 35 i don't think he's going to put up 32 35 i don't think he's going to put up 33 35 i don't think he's going to put up 33 35 i don't think he's going to put up 33 35 i don't think he's going to put up 33 35 i don't think he's going to put up 33 35 i don't think he's going to put up 33 35 i don't think he's going to put up 33 35 i don't uh-oh we're getting the hemp internet here for a sec guys did jam cut out for you all right we'll get we'll get jam back here in a second while he fixes that internet we have air jeff mentioning that bowers is practicing uh hoping they give him one more week i think you're back jam am i test test you are you're back i see literally showing no internet um up here so you know they don't they don't have stuff like wi-fi up here in oregon so that's um yeah all right i'm gonna keep talking then as if we are back but uh yeah that's kind of where i'm at up there loveland i think is sharp craft is sharp um daughter concern is really just the pass play rates uh for the you goals if they smash same thing with kittle coming off the achilles in a game where the 49ers should smash but uh yeah that's kind of where i'm at on these tight ends yeah i'm trying to think some other spots as far as like um you know if uh bowers doesn't go michael mayer is going to be very popular again at 3600 and then i think we should probably also shout out um basically all these tight ends who are stepping into actual extra opportunity dalton schultz at 3200 if no nico and then mark andrews at 4400 if no zay um i'm guessing all three of those will be fairly popular options yeah i i mean schultz and he's going against the bengals who i don't know they've necessarily solved their tight end woes and uh he's popping in projections he's going to be popular this week um jay hawkinson is part of this vikings game um michael mayer again like he's not going to crush you for playing him because he has a role in the offense i mentioned ferguson i think he's going to be popular this week um um hunter henry yeah i mean like there's there's plenty down here and there's very low probability that anything dramatically separates and so it's kind of down here it's like take a guy with a role and upside and hope that he gets the touchdown is how i look at it um if you compare it with your actual bet on a game environment all the better but doesn't have to be that way that's that's my take on tight end this week yep i guess one other name i'll throw out to you what what did you see you know george kittle um coming off the injury he was like really involved on the first couple drives and then was in blocking a little bit more uh you know at 4600 this huge team total do you think his role expands or you still want to be a little cautious with him yeah i mean i think his role expands but he i think he played like 46 of the snaps and again coming back from australia playing against miami yeah like i put him on one of my earliest practice builds and he's not going to be able to do that he's going to be able to do it your first thought is man the upside but then what are the chances we actually get there so um yeah i don't know that he's going to make it onto my tighter builds but like there's so little that separates a lot of these tight ends that we're kind of we're guessing and hoping that we get the ceiling so the main thing is target something that has ceiling and then hope that you guess right so yeah kittle is probably not going to be on my main builds because the way that i'm looking at this 49ers offense as probably one that separates quickly and and maybe isn't piling up points late in the game so i think it's going to be a little bit of a challenge at the end of the game but certainly he's viable this week all right it's the time of the show you've been waiting for it we are going to get into some cascading projections and build a team here on draft kings with some of jm's favorite building blocks fan duel is now available everywhere in the u.s so you can get in on the sports action no matter where you are including these places make this your most rewarding season ever with fan duel age and location restrictions apply product availability varies by market see fanduel.com for eligibility gambling problem call 1-800-GAMBLER and jm for people who weren't uh maybe around last week or still uh catching up on this new cascading projections feature that is up on the screen right now let them know this concept and then maybe walk us through how we might use this for a build yeah so we're basically able to say if things play out in this way what does that read redraw projections too. So a couple of ways you can do that is if I think that these games are going to play out a certain way, then what does that redraw projections to? And where does that point me to for my build? So one of the things that I've messed around with is a game with Dallas and Washington. That's like 20, let's say 31 for Washington and 34 for Dallas. And then a game for San Francisco and Miami, that's 37 for San Francisco and 17 for Miami. And you're able to get the projections redrawn to understand like how you should be treating that. If you can kind of, what I like to do is play out the games in my head and kind of put in scores for all the games and say, okay, if the slate plays out this way, how do I place my bet based on how I'm seeing the slate? And then another one of the biggest things you can do is you can, it's actually more powerful is come over here and like pin a, a projection to a player. So if we say CD lamb is going to put up 32 draft Kings points, what does that do to the rest of this game environment? What does that do to the players on his offense? We see George Pickens come up a little bit. If we scroll down, we're going to see Terry McLaurin come up a little bit. We're going to see Stefan Diggs come up a little bit, but then we're also going to see the quarterbacks come up to where from a point per dollar perspective, it stands out as like, okay, here are the quarterbacks that we should be thinking about on this slate. And so yeah, those are the kind of the two ways, the two main ways that I like to use it. You can get more fine too, and putting in a percentile. So you could even say what's Dax a 75th percentile in a game where CD lamb is scoring 32 draft Kings points with this team total. And then let's give Dallas 34 points and say, what's his 75th percentile in that type of game. And so you can kind of refine your bets around the game environment based on what you're actually seeing there. So yeah, still a little bit early in the week where projections are still shaking out. We still got Kyler in here. We get our projections from FTN. They have Kyler in here starting for Minnesota and they've got some other things in here that like we're waiting on news on, but yeah, super fun to play around with and really cool to be able to say, here's how I'm seeing the slate. And what are the projections say if the slate plays out the way that I expect it to play out this week? Can I see the, cause we were talking about Bill and Javante in that game environment. I'm curious, how did they get impacted when you're looking at, um, as far as the boost? Yeah. So give me a, give me a, um, give me a score for the game environment. Let's see what it ends up looking like. Okay. Let's play, let's play a Washington upset. Um, let's play it. Let's play it in like close around the total. Let's play it like 30 to 20, uh, Washington 30 to 20. And so what we're going to see here is, uh, Jaden rising up. We're going to see at running back. Um, we've got Javante Williams coming down because of the 20 points. And then we're going to have Jacory Croskey merit coming up to an 11.8 projection. And then we're going to have Javante Williams coming down because of the 11.8 projection, but he's starting out at a, an 8.6 projection, right? So, uh, if you wanted to say that his role is a little bit bigger than that, then his projection is going to come up more than that. Uh, also we're going to see over here at the wide receiver, we're going to see less of a lift on our, um, on McLaurin and actually about the same lift that we saw when we pinned CeeDee Lamb to the higher score. Uh, and then because we have Lamb and Pickens trailing, we still actually have a little bit of a boost to their projections in this spot. So what would be your you know, your takeaway for a game script like this? Obviously you're looking at the value and the projection who in this game environment, uh, in this scenario, if you knew this exact score, um, would you be interested in putting in a lineup? Yeah. If I knew this exact score, this is probably the part where I started to say, maybe this isn't the game that we needed on this particular week, but because of the pricing on Jaden and these two wide receivers, that's where I would be most likely to end up going. That's where you have the most certainty around role and all of that. But again, this is where like I started getting on to Bryce Young and the Panthers was when I was still building out cascading projections. It was a couple of weeks before kickoff and I was just putting in like small changes to this bears and Panthers score. And you were seeing Bryce Young and these Panthers pass catchers pop. And so then I was like, well, what if this game's higher scoring and you see them pop even more? And you realize like this concentrated offense and the way that Bryce Young can play, like his baseline is low, but his ceiling is high. And so, um, that's where you can really find a lot of value in here is just starting to mess around with like some of the games they play and seeing how that changes projections and where, like if you put in high scores for all the games, what actually stands out the most from the projection standpoint? Uh, or if you play out the game, the way the slate, the way that you think is going to play out, how should you be accounting for that? And, uh, yeah, let it, let it kind of direct your math on, I think the slate's going to play out this way. Okay. So what are the bets I place, right? Which kind of simplifies things instead of picking players, you're picking ways for games to play out and that can help a um, are we taking the hall pass or are we, uh, we have to, we cannot, I cannot build the same roster that I have built 40 times. Cause also if I build that roster, like I said, like the crazy thing, Pete is the math stands out there because like I said, the floor is higher. You're going to cash at a higher rate, but the ceiling is just as high as other stacks, right? So just over time, you make more money with that. If it plays out the way that I think it can play out. But then also once you've stacked up that game, it kind of directs where you go next and there's some pretty clear setups. So we can't just build the same roster that I've built 40 times already. Let's build something different. And, uh, yeah, so we should start with a block. Okay. So what I want to propose is we skip Bucky Irving in this one. Cause that's another thing I've been putting in a lot of Bucky Irving and Bucks defense. Uh, and we go ahead and put in this Tucker craft, Colston Loveland block that I've talked about, which is not correlated, but the idea is just that you're saying, here's a pairing that's capable of going for, 30. Each player is capable of going for 30. Most people won't have these two together. And, uh, let's skip Aaron Jones on this roster as well. So we've taken off Bucky Irving. We've taken off Aaron Jones and we've taken off Washington and Dallas. Uh, it's going to force us to do something a little bit different than I've been doing throughout the week, which is kind of the goal here. So we have craft, we have Loveland. Does that put into focus one of their quarterbacks? Would you want to play a Jordan love or Caleb here? Yeah. So that might be a little movement of my brain, but, um, love and Caleb Williams were the two quarterbacks I was looking at, which obviously we just put these guys in, but I wasn't thinking about the tight ends, or it's like, where do we go at quarterback? If we're not going here, uh, let's go ahead and go with Caleb Williams because we can do some interesting things with a, uh, Caleb Williams and with no Aaron Jones on this roster and no space for Hawkinson either. So, uh, we're going to want Justin Jefferson on this roster because we're telling a story of Caleb Williams, putting up a tournament winner. And so if Caleb Williams, there's another place where I would use cascading projections of Caleb Williams puts up a tournament winner. What does that do for the rest of this game? But, uh, we can go ahead and throw in Luther burden as well, because again, I'm saying Luther burden is going to be priced over 7k later in the season. So let's be there when it happens. Uh, and then we can get a sense of what's left on this roster. Uh, salary wise, actually we can throw in a defense too, because Pete, I don't know how we don't play the bucks defense of the Eagles, the 49ers or the other. But like I'm paying up a defense this week and, um, let's throw in the bucks. Cause they're going to be aggressive. They're going to be blitzing Deshaun Watson and Deshaun Watson has, um, you know, not a great relationship with pressure these days. So Buccaneers defense. I, this is like an interesting build for us just historically, because I want to say often we're starting with the high end running backs. Um, we now have 5,400 left here after putting in Caleb Loveland craft burden, Jefferson Buccaneers defense. So we're going to we're going to have to get cheap at running back to make this work unless we go really cheap at wide receiver. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And so what I would be interested in seeing is it's because Caleb takes up so much of our salary here, but what I'm interested in seeing is if it's possible to get up to either, uh, we can't get up to JSN because we can't save that much at running back, but we could probably still get up to Bijan Robinson. So let's throw in Bijan Robinson and see what that's going to restrict us. Because we've already said no Aaron Jones and that's where it's going to make things tough on us. Okay. Yeah. We can't get up to Bijan Robinson here. So, uh, now with a sharp roster, so take Bijan out, uh, let's go ahead and go with an Ashton Jenty. Yep. That leaves us 4,700. Should we see what like a 4k wide receiver does for us? Yeah. Let's go down to, yeah, let's go down to 4k and see who we've got available here. Yeah. So you mentioned the Browns guys. So you have like Concepcion down here, 80 Mitchell, we could have him opposite craft. That's kind of a fun little mini block. Yeah. The problem is we're going to get to 5,400 at a running back, which doesn't, which doesn't do a whole lot for us unless we want to go Aaron Jones, which we've already said, we're going to try to avoid him in this build. So let's go down to DeMario Douglas. Yeah. DeMario Douglas here. I would say typically not the kind of guy or, I mean, or do you, do you him as having more upside than just being like kind of a low a dot slot receiver? Oh yeah. I mean, cause every once in a while, he's going to catch a ball 20 yards downfield or he can score a touchdown. Pete, this is going to be like my least favorite roster we've ever built on the show. Hey, this is what a hall pass is all about. You realize that you come running back to the, your one true love in the fling was just not worth it. Cause the point of going down to DeMario Douglas was to clear out the space for Basial Tootin. Yes. But we have like our story, our storytelling on here is pretty poor. We're telling a story of this Vikings and bears game being a shootout but we only have one piece from the vikings side justin jefferson so everything's going to flow through justin jefferson uh we have the uh ashton gentry and bashell tootin so we're basically saying like these guys are outscoring the bijan robinson's at the top and they're outscoring the aaron jones's down at the bottom um and then you know you get to mario douglas making it all work so so yeah our best not our best effort do we want to build a second roster um just to see what else we could do yeah we have time or i was going to say would you consider trying like what the wince version of this looks like where you save the money at quarterback yeah and so i've done that a lot and and i've tried to like it's such an easy button right because all of a sudden you save 2200 at quarterback and it opens things up um i did build a caleb roster last night that was like oh i like i like this roster um but it's like okay you know what let's go ahead and we're going to build a new roster and we're going to build a new roster and let's let's look at a caleb roster that i might actually build and put in play okay um and so i'm not going to put this one in place so we can just go through this but this one is uh take out loveland and this one is uh and take out take out the tight end take out loveland uh take out justin jefferson um and take out genti so this is basically a way to say like what if the bears and vikings game goes off but it goes off differently than people are expecting so what i had on this roster was luther burton and roma dunzey as the stacking partners with caleb williams and then t.j hawkinson and aaron jones as the pieces from the vikings and this is one of these again flipping through the game changer the other day and like you see a lot of the rosters that's uh the you know running back and the wide receiver the skinny stack with just the wide receiver one or the wide receiver one and the tight end those are like the most common sharp rosters but every once in a while you'll see the quarterback plus the two wide receivers which is just less common because it hits less frequently but it hits at a higher rate than people give it credit for it's always a little bit more uncomfortable to build this roster so caleb plus the dunes a plus burden naturally ends up with lower ownership and then you're basically just saying this game's a shootout and let me collect players who can score touchdowns in this game and you end up with a roster that other people are not building with a bunch of salary flexibility so we can go bijon on this roster and then wrap this up with a mini correlation from my and george pickens or digs and george pickens and it all ends up fitting under the salary cap and so now you have a story you're basically limiting the number of things you need to get right you're saying that washington and dallas have points and flow through these guys uh that the bears and vikings blows up and that bijan robinson has a good game you know like that's a much more straightforward and higher probability bet and the only thing that you're getting that's kind of off of the clear probability pathways is that the touchdown is a good game and that's a good game and the touchdowns are flowing through maybe like the guys you weren't thinking of in the vikings and bears game right so it's basically a way to say hey there's a bunch of points in the vikings and bears game and maybe the touchdowns flow through these guys which is the thing we can predict the least so this is much more in line with how i've tried to build away from the jayden and dac rosters um it gives us gives us a second look that's not just um throwing some pieces on under the salary cap uh and in this one the building block would be the uh mclaurin and pickens right we're just taking two guys from that game or digs and pickens however you want to play that one but yeah another look at how to build around this slate away from dac and jayden and one thing to think about with the flow of the state with or the slate with washington dallas being uh the popular game it is the late game in the 425 window we actually have five games back here which does give you a decent amount of late swap flexibility so i always like the idea of getting that information early let's see if this caleb game block hits and then you know if we're if we're crushing it's like okay mclaurin pickens ready to go you know if it fails or maybe it's more middling maybe you do think about hey are pickens mclaurin going to be more popular you just have a lot of different ways you can you know adjust your roster there from kind of a late swap perspective um but this was fun jam i'm glad you know they got two lineup builds for the price of one today yeah yeah none of them were uh the one i'm probably going to marry but uh yeah this is this is one that is actually kind of i like this roster you know i built it last night i was like oh my god i'm like oh that's a pretty sharp build especially in a contest of around 5 000 entries and um yeah you're telling a very clear story and just having it hoping it plays out a little bit differently than everybody else is expecting well great stuff jm we are going to bring you to on here in a second but check out one week season like i said you guys can get 20 off those uh one week season inner circle subs there with promo code p check out the cascading uh projections make sure you get all of the updates to the journal the player grid all of that good stuff anything else jam on your way out yeah 20 off props as well we got a free week of props for inner circle members this week so uh yeah if you hop in this week you can take advantage of that as well all right beautiful stuff jam we will see you at the top of the leaderboards and back in the saddle uh next week at 1 p.m eastern for week three yes sir fan duel is now available everywhere in the u.s so you can get in on the sports action no matter where you are including these places make this your most rewarding season ever with fan duel age and location restrictions apply product availability varies by market see fanduel.com for eligibility gambling problem call 1-800-GAMBLER all right peace out all right it is time for bully the sims with my guy uticao here how was last week for you i got to imagine decent because you were all over the bryce young stuff um i i was a loser but it felt good that i hit on sort of the narratives that i liked more it's just i lost on all the thinner ones and like the you know i'm not a fan of the thinner ones i'm not a fan of the thinner ones the other 50 50s just because of like the nature of the week didn't really play true um yeah in spots but i liked that uh it wasn't even the bryce young it was more like the idea that it's kind of a carefree game which exactly what it was it's like an extension of preseason and then the other one that i felt really good about that i mentioned more on the show was the the geno sort of he didn't even have to do much but if he in the throws that he did make they looked really good offensive line stuff like there'll be there'll be a real team for at least at least the moment yeah and i mean i mean they're kind of a fun one i'm sure we'll we'll touch on it a bit today but like they just didn't have to throw a ton like they just controlled that game so it was all bryce yeah um all right other kind of like takeaways for you from week one obviously we're trying to sift through where's the signal where's the noise you know what stuff is repeatable and uh what stuff is just going to be a flash in the pan did you have any ideas about what stuff is going to be a flash in the pan did you have any ideas about what stuff is going to be a flash in the pan did you have any ideas about kind of any macro thoughts on what was a massively high scoring slate yeah there were a lot of those and it's just trying to pay attention that where it's like clearly an extension of like not being ready like say the the colts where we had the shift in baltimore pace in the play call and basically colts defense not even ready at the snap for all these plays they're getting 20 yards on first down and repeating it three times basically every time you looked right they were at the goal line uh the so that's like an indicator of like preseason since you your priors would suggest that indy's okay on defense and in fact would be limiting the explosives for the most part um stuff like that if they were on the slate it would we could probably get into it more but i wouldn't mind buying into indy considering how chiefs overperformed but different different uh yeah were there were there any of those other you know we have a lot of first-time play callers a lot of new coaching changes we saw you know the denver stuff looked pretty rough i mean the eagles were fine but are there any of those other kind of coaching changes that the performance was notable to you yeah it's mostly in like the the concept rather than how it performed and so you're kind of looking at run pass pace so baltimore was probably the biggest one which i'm sure has been talked about i don't know if they can really do the same without their their guy that speeds up the game the most but just the idea of being open to it is already a big change but we can talk about the saints in a little bit yeah for sure yeah i mean i i think there was the quote uh where uh i think it was jesse mentor being like i'm having so much fun like calling plays for uh lamar there too it does look like the offense is going to operate a little differently if they're going to operate a little differently i think it's going to be a little bit different from what i'm used to and i think it's going to be a little bit different from what i'm used to and yeah it sounds like zay flowers is going to be pretty questionable um you know we often talk about input volatility on the show we can see here on run the sims you can actually go in and adjust all of these inputs yourself if you aren't necessarily buying the baseline or you want to kind of test different assumptions what are some of the spots this week that you think have big input volatility um you have the saints on your screen yeah i sort of like the saints part of that game i think it's going to be a little bit different but i think it's going to be a little bit um I'm not sure how owned it gets since it is a little hard to stack Lamar other than Andrews, which I'm sure Andrews himself will be popular, but I don't really see too much ownership on the Baltimore side, other than like Derrick Henry Andrews. I liked a lot of the Saints since they kind of had an in-game bounce back. That was a very encouraging where I last year, I sort of would think that in that same spot when they're down 21-0, they would have no prayer of really getting back into it. And because they made all the mistakes that they would typically make. And this is more so when Shuck was just starting to take the job. So seeing that in his first game this year is very encouraging because it's kind of like indicating that he's more of the guy that we saw at the end of the season when they're playing pretty well. And like he was supporting a lot of it is like a top tier receiver. So I'm now, at least, comfortable with New Orleans if they're in a comeback script. And then with how Baltimore was calling plays, that one I could easily see easily see flip this week, but it wouldn't ever get to the extent where how they would be running the playbook last year. And also Saints also have kept up playing with pace, which is to be expected under Moore. But I just think you don't really need to rely on New Orleans sort of being up or being back and forth for the game to play fast. Yeah. And my, my guess is just sentiment after watching the Saints last week is the field isn't going to want to play these guys, maybe a little bit of a lobby love, but looking at early ownership, Juwan Johnson, they lay, you know, everyone spooked on the Travis H and role as well. And even shock was looking pretty rough, but you think just kind of like the garbage time thesis could play out here again in the volume. Well, I don't even think it's really garbage time. I can just, I just think they're pretty good team given how they shot. Showed up. Whereas Baltimore wasn't really getting tested any form. So I don't even know. Yeah. Yep. And what is that? The, the shortlist for you, the, the valet Juwan Johnson, a lava, or is there any, well, they're all, they're all so low that you can get away with whatever you want, whatever fits, whatever you prefer. But I didn't, I didn't necessarily have a standout guy among those. Yeah. Yeah. A lava was on the injury report. I guess the other interesting thing, I, we did just get news. Camara is going to play this week. I assume that's just like a benefit for the offense to the whole, on the whole. Sure. I wasn't really considering running back within the stack anyway, just because of the price point, you don't really have to get there and it's not necessarily good for a shuck anyway. Yeah. But like, I don't even know if you were to look at Baltimore, it's part of the reason the game stays low. Is that only Andrews seems to be truly in play. Whereas the other, the other guys, it could be so rotational that everyone's guessing. Like if you were to have a real take on snap share, any of these guys, any of the receivers that are like 4k become pretty viable, but it's because of the uncertainty. Nobody really would take any of them aside from like some Bateman steps. Yeah. Yup. Yeah. The Bateman stuff. And I mean, he ran like all the routes last week, but I was barely targeted. He was just essentially a wind sprinter, but we have seen him historically, you know, be able to hit. But yeah, that kind of him not becoming a focal point was a little discouraging there. Yeah. The chat mentioning like LeJounte West or yeah, I don't, I don't know if you have any takes on these. I mean, if you were to remove flowers, it would just be a huge guessing game. Aside from knowing Bateman gets snaps. Mm. Yup. Let's talk about some other spots. Do you, do you have a favorite game this week? Obviously everybody is into Washington, and Dallas that has the highest total some fun pieces. Do you have another spot you would look, or do you want to get into that one? I don't really have a favorite game. I'm more of a hater this week, so. Okay. Then, then let the hate flow through you. Uh, hate, hate on that Cowboys, Dallas game for us or commander's game. Um, is that's going to be the highest by far. I sense, right? I looked at some lineups and it was a lot of just price pushing you towards Dallas, especially. Yes. Um, for sure that makes sense. With especially the receiver position, isn't that strong, right? And Dallas has two top top 10 receivers in a good environment. Yup. Yeah. So naturally that's going to just, that isn't too expensive. The receivers are priced fine. Um, John T Williams price. Well, even yup. Uh, so immediately I would think you don't want all three, but on the same lineup, just cause it's difficult for them to get there aside from a huge onslaught. Um, but if I see something like that, you don't really want to play into that, especially this early in the season. Yeah. What, what other spots are you excited to hate on this week? No, we can, we can stay there. Um, it would just be probably more beneficial to consider the game in an under script, or like you can't really play that because, uh, you don't really feel comfortable with like the Washington run game. Yeah. Right. I mean, you could, but it seems a little bit, I don't know if it's going to be an under script or an under script, but it seems like it's going to be an under script. I don't know if it's going to be an under script. Um, well it is thin, but the pricing on like the cross key mirror, I think it's fair to like take a few shots at like playing a super under in Washington's favor or something like that. Um, but like that would only be if you were to take something alternatively chalky on the rest of your team. Um, a lot of the time wash when Washington does well anyway, though, is sort of Jaden Daniels sustaining long drives. They're not, he hasn't historically been the most explosive, but, uh, it's sort of like sustaining large drive, longer drives, and then sort of siphoning the touchdowns, either like him passing it or him running it in. I liked, I liked how he looked and he was pretty poised, which is sort of, I thought that's like a signature trait. That's how they had the deep playoff run. You kind of saw that and how they kept it closer, came back a little against the Eagles, um, digs you'd rather have early than late, I would assume. And, um, it's a balance because if you're in a play into Daniels digs, McLaurin, it is helpful for the chalky Dallas receivers. So it's kind of tricky, but I know I don't want to like be too heavy, just Dallas and call it a day. - Yeah. And like looking at ownership stuff, I mean, CD pick-ins, Javante, Dak, all going to be really popular. The commander side doesn't look as chalky right now. So that might be the way to play it. If you do want to get into it. - Yeah. And it's mostly like bet on like the signals you got out of Washington. Where it's a little sneaky and Daniels. Isn't it's a possibility that he's back in the rookie year form. It's certainly better than what you saw last year. And if they want to, I'm not, it's not like a great spot to like let them loose, but I could, I just see it being as more lucrative to think of it from that angle, then Dax CD pickings. - Yup. Let's uh, let's talk about some of the spots. Spots that you do find maybe intriguing to attack. Let's go over to Tampa Bay versus Cleveland. Six and a half point favorites. Not a great over under here, but what are you seeing with the bucks? - I like it. Just talking about the pre-season idea where Cleveland, they might just be in a perpetual pre-season this year, right? Like the vibes, they're just all types of bad and roster turnover. Um, weird Watson quotes. Like, and the, the narrative, if you want to look at it from like, uh, Tampa side is that you have the contract to your Baker here. They were sort of hanging around and even in the game, but they made so many mistakes. Some of them their fault. Some of them, not really that they never had a shot in that game, but they were still kind of in the game. So they could come out mad. It's the home. I don't know if they were road last week. I really, if I recall. - Uh, I want to say they were, were they at home? Uh, no, no. They're home openers next week. Yeah. They were on the road at jacks. - Open opener here, contract here, no touchdowns last week. I think just if the game becomes a little low resistance, like it can even, I'm not asking for it to play out how they showed up against the Jaguars did the Browns, but if it becomes low resistance or sort of a free flowing, or, similar similar script to that last week, I can see Baker get a little selfish on the stat sheet, just to like regress the numbers. And at those levels, what the pricing is and what you can take instead, there's nobody taking Baker. - Yeah. And I assume the way people will want to play it is Bucky and Tampa Bay defense. Are you seeing maybe a contrarian angle through? - Oh yeah. I wasn't even thinking of that. Yeah. That's yeah. That's a good point. - Yeah. You don't even need, you can even include Baker Bucky receiver. I just wouldn't take defense in that setup or like, even then it's not that bad. Normally I wouldn't, but in a matchup like this, you could see like short field and then just 40 points at the end of the third quarter. - Yeah. - It's not even that bad. - Go ahead. - Oh, no, no, no. Any, any other thoughts on, on Tampa? - Just they're cheap and yeah, they have a, they have a lot of ability and it's sort of one of the spots where it, the points could just come up. freely without really uh cleveland doing anything to stop it yep let's talk about the jets we hit on them a little bit at the top you know having some confidence in geno being competent now they go and uh get the packers at home do we go back to the geno stacks um i don't know about stacks but i've my my record on this show has been really impeccable with jets but outside of the show i can't remember ever losing betting on the jets in the like the last two or three years granted it's jets so the sample of that isn't huge but um the the packers form is not too good i couldn't have touted geno more he had he had actually a great game as far as like managing what what whatever they had to do he probably had like played the best he could without the stats um they'll be able to run he'll probably with that with the new offensive line play and they'll have time to throw with packers not being able to rush i don't really think it's it's not a great spot for fireworks because jet success is probably more likely to be slow in this situation um but the way green bay is set up defensively is like they actually have good safeties but a really bad front seven right now so um that's actually makes it easier for them to sustain the drives with how they're currently playing it's more about the fact that the jets have a real big three right now that's condensed and if because they're still cheap they don't really need to do much to sort of put up great scores relative to price right last week they scored 23 without that many dropbacks but they all had reasonable scores and that's like one touchdown between the guys and geno not having yeah i'm not pushing it hard it's just there's there's like target concentration opportunity in a team that's probably undervalued yep yeah geno 4800 breeze 6200 garrett wilson 6k do you like the idea of a green bay bring back to speed it up like a christian watson or a golden i didn't look at it too hard but um golden's a golden must be talked about a lot right after the opportunity you know i mean he he strikes me as like way underpriced at 4700 um you know early ownership projections i'm seeing under 10 maybe he gets steamed but honestly not as much chatter as you would think that's a nice way to play it i think like love love is actually fine too for pricing if there if people aren't really going to play this game yeah you can do the packers too i can see that yeah like there are packers are like all reasonably priced it's just i'm a little more um a little more bullish on how i feel about jets at the moment than packers so it's really that if if we saw the opposite play out between the two teams at these prices i would just be talking about the packers yeah and we we hit on this real quick with jm there is projected rain for this game the chat keeps mentioning that so that's something to keep tabs on um we'll we'll it's not it's not something to get too heavy into and if it does if the rain is like a real concern um i would even dull it even less yep i just wanted to say i'm still i'm still a jets homer there you go let the record stand that the jets personal brand is still intact for yuda uh we talked about the saints talked about tampa bay uh what what are you seeing with pittsburgh here versus the patriots we didn't talk a ton about them with jm so this is a good spot to hit yeah it's not really an appealing game at all it's kind of similar to the last game we mentioned here it's more interesting from a real world perspective where um i don't really see patriots having too many outs as far as like being explosive and generating great offense and pitt d looked to be scarier than seattle d although seattle d probably matched it matched up with patriots much better um the one thing for pitt the pitt side on the pitt offense is that if the play call is really just going to be whatever rogers wanted to do and if that's really just throw the ball most of the time short that's not bad for um it's difficult with their target distributions where they have like two actual kind of timeshare running backs and then no really alpha receiver because like fram youth and play pittman around now it's it's a little harder there um but i do think it's more conducive to pitt success but like the game isn't gonna isn't really isn't gonna shoot out that hard yeah chad also mentioning pittman's banged up which should be an even bigger role for metcalf i mean he already had a monster role i think he was on the field for for every snap in pittsburgh highest proa team in the league last week they're really letting them throw there so what would be like the personnel that you'd be most interested it's still mostly ownership play like i feel like i keep um talking about these unappealing cheap quarterbacks um but it's really the same idea where it's like yeah just nobody's gonna take rogers he doesn't even project that well and the game is kind of slow so yeah it's just some room for it's like unspoken upside really where it's actually there but it's too early to really know if it's a thing yeah is is there anyone so rogers metcalf is it kind of analogous to like gino garrett wilson where it's just kind of like the really the cheap and the concentration element are well that's they don't have the concentration so it's that yeah but at least rogers has multiple guys you can stack with that can get there like friar specifically or like a warren um in certain spots even like roman wilson is cheap running routes and he's cheap so you could just double stack rogers in a way you can't really with gino yep um any other contrarian angles here um before we maybe look at some lineups in the the sim runner that like to hit on um i guess we can touch a little bit on raiders yeah the way the chargers start started off they were kind of dead against the cardinals and i'm not sure what the fix is necessarily right because are they getting one anyone back say like the offensive line i'm not sure i think they're just losing aggressively in the trenches so that is just going to be solved no matter what like games like that are just going to happen and uh raiders have a real identity at the moment so if chargers are going to be owned it's just kind of a similar situation where there's the system i don't know if i talked about it here but like yeah there's actually systemic risk on like new system when your your line is in flux and it played so poorly that it's not even sneaky anymore yeah but by the number i assume herbert can't be that bad of a play and like qj can't be that bad i'd be a little scared of those yeah it's interesting seeing ownership um gentian mayor gonna be very popular and then i think otherwise nobody's really touching um a lot in this game qj could be interesting or chalky if lad is out but yeah i don't know how how much people are interested in this game i think it's i think there would be some because it's it would be like one of the secondary teams you'd be looking at it's a pretty good total it's like the chargers are a similar spot to bucks and priced better and but to me like way more fragile and um the upside is suspect because i'd rather i'd feel more comfortable about the baker thesis than the chargers thesis and but even though you haven't seen either of them yeah what else if assuming lad is out qj kind of popular what what other angles would you play with with herbert oh it wouldn't be herbert it would just be fading that and playing like that raiders genti yep gotcha and cousins is like a fair reasonable quarterback he can manage a game but like if if you're going to get into like the receivers of the raiders it's more beneficial to the chargers so it's just yeah it's just a lot of hate not not much to like yeah musty predicting chargers lose to the raiders this week they of course torched a decent amount of survivor entries last week do we have any uh yuda spread over under locks of the week you want to tout here on record uh i mean the anything i need when i said good thing about the chargers is that they're about would be like bucks yeah saints bucks saying that's i don't want to say because it could be a trap i feel but the vibe like it all looks good but if sort of the line doesn't really move much or more comes in on the jets and doesn't really change i wouldn't feel that great um but i can't imagine not doing saints or like saints over but there's there's also there's also the downside to that with like the the flowers development yeah uh all right i'm pulling up some lineups last week uh i think some maintenance was getting done on the sim right as we were recording but it is up and running today i was looking at like a 5 000 person contest uh just as a refresher you know there's no four stacks or anything on this this is just looking at what the sim likes the most here so always fun to kind of go through these see if any spots are popping that we haven't discussed yet um the chat mentioning kyler is officially out this week so that's one the two what's that uh what's the two of status he's he's out it's uh they've announced cooper rush as the starter so uh one one spot we haven't talked about here and both these quarterbacks show up in the top two lineups trevor lawrence in bow nicks we see a bow nicks double stack a trevor lawrence double stack what do you think of that game that one is just rather confusing to me i don't even i can't really comment i haven't yeah i haven't uploaded it into the head yet gotcha gotcha um yeah that one does seem like it has a wide range of outcomes there um jordan love popping in a few of these although kind of interesting one of them uh is a naked jordan love another one with christian watson here you are seeing some of your cheap cheap qbs though you see the kirk cousins the aaron rogers the tyler shock yeah that's really surprising to me and also notably no dac so is it just that it's accounting for the ownership or maybe we're just lower on cowboys but notably no dac yeah no yeah i had to scroll all the way down to like a 24 percent roi um before we see any dac here although seeing some weird names pop up here camden brown in a dac stack i don't know if i'm getting there teach me who camden brown is yeah i don't know uh like looking at the best um of those cheap ones like the rogers we mentioned the pitman thing we'll keep an eye on that but like a pitman in metcalf double stack the shuck is an alabe in jawan johnson and then kirk cousins they're a trey tucker uh any other spots we should look at here maybe a geno yeah if you want to force in a geno that could be interesting yeah it doesn't look like no yeah it's the i think it's really the the tail end is not too likely nor is it that great so i don't i don't uh really disagree but we talked about that it's more sort of it's again more of like a real life than uh something that you really want to stack but like i'm gonna be a little more into jets playmakers personally than what the run to sims number would be yeah so that that would change those i think this is new this year but there's some cool screener stuff for like what the sim is outputting here as far as obviously player exposures seeing a ton of cmc chase mcbride as expected but then the kind of top type of stacks that are showing up the most the team stacks looks like a lot of san francisco players um here we didn't talk about that spot how do you think about them as huge uh favorites here against miami it's probably warranted but they they sort of could sort of use this as a bi-week given their schedule and their injury concerns so i don't want to um it's more about how serious they take the game but they don't really need to push things that hard but even then it'll come pretty easy one part one guy we haven't really talked about that's probably going to be more impactful to pay up is bijan um that one's a little tricky because last year carolina ran sort of a a scheme that was like a little different where they're zoning up a lot but they still take away the flat so typically you would think that would well against most teams that would shut down uh running back targets but since bijan is right now closer to a slot receiver than a traditional running back in his in his route tree uh he's not really like getting the dump offs like that it could actually play into his favor i don't really know um but you know atlanta doesn't have a quarterback but that was good for bijan last week yeah so i don't think the the number on bijan is necessarily wrong yeah what about you know last week if there if there is a panthers team this week i mean you gave us a few options of the cheap quarterback um who's who's the one that could be the the best value stack would you say on your on your way out here uh no i just don't see it it's yeah yes it's not really the same setup where uh you can feel great about huge huge shootouts in any particular spot especially relative to the price yeah and so that's why you think maybe this week getting down to the cheap quarterback some of the concentrated offenses and then do you think maybe you see yourself paying up for more of the highly projectable kind of running backs around those cheaper stacks i guess i sort of talked myself into that because i i'm not i wasn't hating on bijan but if you were to just look at the quarterbacks it's not that appealing yeah especially looking at price that's really the reason uh dac gets owned to that extent because yeah it's one that you can pay up for you can stack and you you feel totally good about projection yep yep uh that game is definitely i think the more we look at this slate and see how no other games are really standing out that you have to imagine by the time lock rolls around that that is going to become uh the mega chalk there for the field yeah well yuda uh great as always uh talking with you we're going to bring on mike leone here in a second you guys can get 20 off over at run the sims including the sim runner here with promo code pete you can mess around with all those inputs uh they will get updated over the weekend as we get all of the you know news and inactive stuff there but you can always go and toggle them yourself uh yuda any final words for you here oh i'm good here thanks pete all right man good luck this weekend and we will see you next week for bully the sims let's get our guy mike leone up here as we switch our uh little overlays uh in as i told leone we are now naming this show two hats one solver what do you think of that mike i like it it's the perfect name there you go uh for people you know i i know you've mentioned this on shows before but for people who aren't aware what's the origin of the uh the two hats one mike username oh man this goes back to a baseball live final that i was at with uh david kitchen of course and let's just say overindulged at the open bar at some point i stole somebody's hat from rg i believe and was was donning two hats for the evening um so more to it but ultimately that's that's where the name stems from there you go there you go well uh yeah we're still getting some news coming in chat mentioning uh brock bowers kind of expected that uh while uh i'm gonna ask leone a question here but while we do if there's anything you guys would specifically like us to test in the solver let us know um we're gonna hop over to fan duel uh for this one we did a ton of dk talk obviously with jm and yuda we do have the fan duel free roll going this week it is exclusively for youtube members i'm gonna drop that in the chat right now and this is what i will say about this guys real quick um i'm hesitant to say things like free money but i will explain it to you and you can tell me if you think this is free money or not so this is going to be just for youtube members it is a 2500 guaranteed prize pool the top 100 entrants get five dollars bonus cash you can become a youtube member for five bucks uh that'll get you for the full month we're going to run these each week um right now there was like 54 people in it maybe 59 when i started the show uh so quite literally fan duel is paying for your any better than that with a 500 first place prize so uh use the link it is gated to youtube members in the youtube chat i also have it in the discord as well if you're a member and having a hard time finding it just let me know but take advantage of our fan duel free roll and i've been told you should be able to input your lineup successfully this weekend which will be a nice change of pace for us but yeah let's get some suggestions here and while we do leonie let me know what are you this week uh the theme today has been kind of one game standing above the rest but i can always count on you to get us into some contrarian spots i assume yeah i'm assuming that's the dallas game i caught the end of the you chatting with yuda um that looks like it's going to be the chalk on fan duel right now if you optimize on just our base projected points or just like maximizing ownership it's going to be dac giovante pickens type stuff so i'm guessing that is going to be pretty chalky one thing that stuck out to me initially fooling around with the sims is some trevor lawrence parker washington stuff liked it last week and This week, again, we could have Sertan on Brian Thomas Jr. on the outside. We had a really encouraging week one with the usage for Parker Washington. Lawrence was obviously mega efficient. This game was a sneaky shootout last year. I know it's a tough defense going up against Denver, but I think that should keep people off of Lawrence. Also, I realize I'm a bad host. I got to congratulate you for winning the Thunderdome last week. I mean, winning the Thunderdome is awesome, but doing it in week one, there's no better feeling than getting to front run a good DFS season as opposed to winning it in week 16 or whatever. No, it's definitely a lot of stress off the shoulders, and you can play a little bit more freeing the rest of the weeks. We just got to make sure not to punt it back. Yes. I like the suggestion from Rohan. This is a game that I'm kind of intrigued by. Everyone kind of down on the Broncos after that Monday night. Football performance, the Jags are a little tricky, like outside of Lawrence and Parker Washington. I don't know if anyone feels good about any specific thing. Should we test some Bo Nix stuff here? Yeah, I think that actually is going to sim somewhat decently, at least in large field stuff. The one thing, too, we were looking at when we were doing the projections this week was our pass rush touchdown split for Denver in last season. It was like somewhat even, but they have been a team that throws the ball in the red zone at a pretty high level. It's a pretty high clip relative to the rest of the league, so there might be some more passing TD upside here than if you were to just purely look at the actual results from last year. So what do you think here for this first run? I mean, Bo Nix isn't historically a guy you would have to double stack with how much he can get there on the ground. Do you think we just do a rule for a skinny stack and see what pops up? Yeah, I would just do a skinny stack here. I have a feeling probably with Waddle's projection and ownership, it's going to tell us just to do that. You do get some one percenters at pretty cheap price tags on Bryant and Sutton. Ingram had a good game last week, but I don't know. On FanDuel, where it's more on the efficiency site, I know we got in the box last week, but not really someone I'm too interested in. And it's funny. Obviously, we're going to sim this, but you can see the top projected lineups here in the optimizer portion. And so what you're getting is you get Bo Nix projected ownership right now, 5.5% on FanDuel at 7,300. Jalen Waddle, 7.1 projected ownership at 7,300. 6,700. And then it's jamming all of the best plays, points per dollar. And you can see here the ownership on guys like Bijan, Aarons Jones, Jefferson, Mark Andrews, et cetera, all very popular. Would you say in general, we'll see what the Sims say, that playing kind of like a contrarian stack and then just jamming chalk around it is something that can pay dividends? Yeah. I mean, it depends on the week and the field. A larger field, you might want some more separation. Are we running with variance or are we just running? I did. I ran it with ETR variance. Oh, we are running with variance. Okay. Yeah. That's as we talked about last week. This is how I usually run it. Half projection, half ceiling on variance. There are some weeks where I will just straight up play chalk with a contrarian stack. In smaller fields, especially sometimes if you really like the running back chalk on a week, that's sort of where I'm looking. You got to be different somewhere. So there's some weeks where I love the chalky stack and I'll go contrarian at running back. There's other weeks where I'll love the running. Back chalk and you got to find a stack to play around it. You don't have to go contrarian everywhere. I think probably a few years ago, I was probably leaning maybe a little bit too contrarian. I was trying this new feature out with uploading my CSVs here, but it looks like it's just saying a few of these maybe aren't in the sim. Yeah. We might not have contest for a few of those yet. They might be added, but I think it said you have voted seven. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There should be a couple that we are. So that should work. That's just a cool feature. You can obviously go to the dropdown here if you guys know exactly which one, but I just downloaded my CSV from Vandal. So it looks like I got four of them up here. Let's go ahead. Although it's not, it's still making me. I think you got to click back to use entries file. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. All right. So we will run this here. These are the Bo Nix skinny. Stacks. We're going to send these in a few different contests that I am in or already registered for, and feel free to get a few other suggestions in the chat here. And we will test some assumptions while this is loading. Um, KK asked you a question here. What's your process of selecting lineups after you've built? Feel like I have a tough time coming down from hundreds of lineups to five or six. I feel that it is very difficult. It can be overwhelming. I get into some rut Sunday morning. Where I really feel like I'm spinning the wheels, trying to get like the perfect combination of teams generally. Uh, we mentioned the Thunderdome. Like if I'm on draft Kings, like that's my main lineup, right? So that's the one I'm paying most attention to. And I might have my other like small field lineups deviate off of that a little bit. I'm generally trying. As best as I can to get lineups that are simming well in each individual contest, but have some diversity between them. I'm not someone who's like going to try and absolutely win every contest I'm in on the week or, or lose them all. I think evaluating the Sims this past off season really struck me that I want to play as many plus ROI lineups as possible. But within that plus ROI bucket, I like having my exposures spread out a little bit. So if I I'm okay playing like three or four different stacks across six lineups, I am going to, for the purposes of this one, look at the $10, 40 K Sunday scramble. This one has 4,761 entrance. So I feel like kind of a good mid-sized tournament to look at. I mean, the first thing that jumps out to me when I just scan these top lineups here, sorted by SIM ROI is that it is just absolutely jamming Bijan and Derek Henry. Yeah, I do think, you know, if their, their ownerships come up, that could change. That's the one thing you got to keep an eye on, especially Friday. I feel like you see lower SIM ROIs as we move through the week. And then we go a bit more dialed in there, but this goes back to the question you asked me, which is we're playing a very contrarian stack and it's kind of telling you, well, if you're going to do that, then just jam even in a somewhat larger field, just jam the best place at running back and our projection right now, you've got three of the top four ETR values at running back right now with the only one not in there being Javante Williams right now. Who projects to be decently chalky. Yeah. And that's an interesting thing. Like you see in this top lineup here. So it is a bow next to waddle. That was the, uh, the stack we're kind of forcing. You do get Bijan, Derek Henry. It has Matthew Golden in here, George Pickens, Mark Andrews, Aaron Jones, Falcons. So you are getting like a one-off George Pickens kind of playing that as, you know, the majority of the points coming there. And then in a lineup like this, you're essentially hoping that that game fails right outside of Pickens. Yeah. You're hoping that game fails. Outside of Pickens. And I mean, really at receiver across the board, obviously waddles attached with the stack, but we've got three guys in that five to 10% range, which is quite a bit of leverage, which kind of frees you up to just play the best running back plays. And we do have a very low own defense too, which is interesting. It's doing the Bijan Atlanta pairing here and quite a few of these up top. One thing to note that I always am interested in because we didn't force any bring back, but you can see here outside of the top two lineups. There are a ton of Jags bring backs. There's a Parker Washington in lineup three down here in lineup five. There's actually a double bring back of Parker Washington, Jacoby Myers. So the SIM liking that idea of a game stack here in a sub 5,000 entry contest. And that is where, if I see that I might then go rerun lineups with game stack, like checked on just knowing that these naturally funneled to the top. I might force them in that and being like, okay, if I'm naturally. Getting the game stack funneling to the top without specifically testing it. Maybe I can find even better combos if I force it. Yeah. And this is because it's good to like, you see how much you can also come over here and look at how often a player is showing up in their average ROI as well. You know, Parker Washington, even though he was not forced in here, still showing up in 31% of these, which shows you he's just kind of. A strong play in a vacuum. And then my guess it's the game stack element. That's really pushing Jacoby Myers. Cause he's only in 1% of these. It looks like, but because we're playing this game stack, you actually see probably the only handful of Jacoby Myers teams actually funneling up to the top here, which I think is kind of interesting. Yeah. And that is, you know, he does have an injury report, keeping an eye on that, obviously, but if I see a guy that only. So Parker, Washington, we've already tested a good chunk of lineups, even without forcing to bring back. But if I see a guy that is only in 1% of the lineups and Sims really well, sometimes I will lock that player to see like, did that one lineup just get lucky and like happen? Or did we maybe kind of unlock something on a player or a combination that the Sims really like that we might've, you know, otherwise just missed because you're not testing a lot of lineups with that player. Yup. If you guys have any other. stacks you'd like to test, drop them in the chat for now i'm going to go back and add the bring back just so we get some more uh kind of input here as far as what the jack stuff looks like what do you think yeah i like testing that um i'm hoping it gives us yeah yeah let's see that hopefully we get like five to ten percent jacoby myers in this um to see if there's some more sticky lineups there is that the most leone phrase of all time hopefully we get five to ten percent more jacoby myers in there i'm seeing some suggestions in the chat for maybe some some brock purdy stuff that would be interesting to look at too just with that team total there um let's see here i i'm interested in just quickly looking at some of the stuff is charger stacks too chargers yeah let's uh this is that i mean it does go to show you with this stuff like you said like you go down the rabbit hole of a specific you know version of the slate you know and it like it it does take like a significant amount of time if you want to test all of these different things and like you said then you get into this weird part of the game tree where it's like okay now i want to touch or test the jacoby myers stuff like how do you think about that from like a time spent standpoint like obviously if you're having fun and you have free time like knock yourself out but say you do only have an hour or so uh or a what what do you think are the most high value ways to utilize this yeah i think you want to start with your high value opinions on the slate like obviously if you have unlimited time you just test as much stuff as possible right see if you can uncover it but if you're like the running back chalk's good this week right now you know your focus is finding contrarian wide receivers contrarian stack to build around it so you try to like make a few important high leverage decisions off the top just based on your personal like i like this player at this ownership or i don't or whatever that is and then you're like okay i'm going to test this stuff and i'm going to test this and then you're trying to maximize around like just assuming you get that idea right that's the way i like to do it and then you can start you just start the funneling process so much quicker so then it does give you enough time to like dig deep on the bone next stacks right if you're just saying we're going to play bijan henry no matter what you have time to dig on it whereas if you just started with no high level decision and you try to do everything you might not have time to dig in on some specific things and assume that uh you know just everyone has played dfs for a while probably and just through taking in content and whatnot that you're you know you're just you're just on a couple of the the important things right off the bat all right we're gonna sim this uh bring back element to the bone nick stack see if anything else is interesting and then we'll make sure to hit on a couple others here i'm going to go ahead and i'm going to go ahead and i'm going i did just drop in the chat as well guys a link to the solver optimizer you guys can get ten dollars off a solver optimizer or simulator sub with code p10 p10 there will get you ten dollars off this is a different product than the draft assistant if you guys had that so if you're a new customer to the uh optimizer slash sim side of the solver you can take advantage of ten dollars off and then mess around with these sim builds yourself leonie as this finishes up here how much pressure are you feeling for your flag plants tomorrow after nailing it in week one um i'm telling the people on establish a million it's it's all downhill from here on the flag plants i feel like we had quite a dry run i gotta tell one of the most impressive flag plant stories almost so drew almost like he wanted to flag plant colston loveland last week but oh my god but so last year i don't know if you remember that bears bangles game that went like absolutely bananas yeah when the nunguy was spot starting yeah yes so he flag planted roma dunze and i think he goose egged in a game that scored like 90 points and then he almost flag planted loveland in a game where his team scored 59 points and he goose egged which is just like i mean i think your chances of winning the lottery are higher than than that so he's now barred himself in the future from flag planting he can flag plant players against the bears uh but he can't flag plant bears players that's incredible i will say if if he wants to bring it back i mean going back to rome this week i mean this is i think he could bring the roma dunze a bit back it's not a bad spot for him there um let's see here so looking at this one thing we are seeing now is an overwhelming amount of parker washington he's showing up in uh 98 of these so maybe the myers stuff was a little bit more fluky he only shows up three percent so does that seem like maybe a small sample similar to what he's showing now noise there for jacoby well it could be that's where you know if you have unlimited time i'd probably lock some jacoby teams or yeah if we did the game stack maybe i'd put some max exposures on the jags players to make sure that it like spread out among them um the other thing i might do if i was diving really deep we have talked about how it makes sense to play the chalk running backs with these next stacks but i would be somewhat tempted to maybe put that to the test and see if there's one or two contrarian backs that maybe also sim well alongside two chalky backs um most of these are really like three straight up you know very chalky backs so that's sort of how i'm interpreting what we're seeing right and one thing here i've been just looking at this contest with 4700 in you know i'm registered for the 222 dollar uh sunday fade with 300 entries the sim roi uh not too different here you're still seeing some in the 123 percent range if you look at the sunday million uh it's actually going up higher uh is that just kind of as simple as being contrarians you know you get rewarded way more in the super large field yeah it's a combination of the ownerships generally aren't as good in the super large field and there's just going to be some lineups that win every so often that have these really huge rois that are kind of inflated by the bank and i will say it's tough to be like super precise you know in a 500 000 field contest where winning first is way more important than winning second uh so that's part of the reason why those rois though are going to skew higher and i think i saw like caleb douglas up there like you you do see the sims identifying being more contrarian at wide receiver and that's super large tournament matter and more um this suggestion here from minnesota mike is sim the bucks i've been liking some big doubles and triples that's what i ran as my main fan duel lineup last week was a baker uh double stack there obviously didn't get home he was turning over the ball a ton but let's try to bring it back um should we try a double force the double with baker as opposed to the skinny like we did with bonex let's force the double let's make sure yep yep you've got running back included let's take off the bring back because i do think you could play bucky in these baker stacks he was heavily involved in the passing game last week and also when you're stacking a team that's a lopsided favorite against a really bad team part of what you're playing for is the team just scores 40 points it's not that you're necessarily playing for this super particular like baker has to throw every single touchdown to the receiver i own it's there's just tons of touchdowns for the team hopefully right and like the smaller the contest is to like the more viable in general it seems to do those stacks i mean the ones where you get in trouble would be like super large field rushing back who doesn't catch passes right like if you had like lamar derrick henry really large field and derrick henry costs like 9k and lamar's like said like that's where that negative correlation really probably starts to get you yeah i think so um but we did too we did talk about the i think last week we talked about the teammates without the quarterback and that's something to keep in mind as well let's say you find a stack different than baker but you think cleveland's gonna put up a ton of points you could play like bucky you would like a bucca or something like that or something um right that was in my thunderdome lineup was last week was henry with zay flowers you know not having lamar in that lineup so the sims do sometimes push you towards those double teammate even without a stack i was gonna ask you about that had you tested that lineup with lamar and then i assume a pivot off of another position to be like that 2v2 of like because again you're you're i assume you're staring at henry and zay and you're like man if these guys go off is it lamar probably going off too yeah and the decision for me i don't remember the salaries off the top of my head was just not wanting to pay up for lamar and then having some late swap flexibility with herbert in that lineup honestly more it was like i didn't want to play those two guys together because i never do when the sims tell me to and i just capitulated and the sims won and thankfully i listened it doesn't always work out that well all right i'm simming the baker double stacks here we'll see what is popping um you know comparing the roi right off the rip uh maybe a smidge lower than some of the bone nicks 113 percent here the top lineup uh we have baker mayfield 2.9 ownership igbuka 8.1 godwin 3.9 so definitely low ownership and again leonie jamming bijan henry uh mark andrews giovante but we do see a bring back bubble up here naturally in kc concepcion yeah we do see a bring back which is again interesting in a player that's probably not represented in a ton of lineups and yet uh you know found his way into one right up top here i know we do have a rosy projection on him i'm trying to pull it up right now um case they were spamming him with like volume in different ways uh and that that's a little bit exciting for sure the second lineup here while you look up the casey projection we do have a niners and cmc kind of correlation here which always checks out um the aaron jones chalk bijan qj mark andrew so really similar to the bone next thing right where it's like you're playing this really contrarian angle um you can really just play the best plays elsewhere and on casey they gave him three rushing attempts uh he also had a really strong target per route run ran 60 percent routes but you um 28 target per route run 2.39 yards per route run so it's definitely an encouraging debut for a rookie i know no one is suggesting this but i am curious like uh you know you look at the ownerships right over in this game um it does seem like the washington dallas stuff you know do you like what do you like the idea of more and i'm sure you guys will talk about this on establish the million like just going away from that game or trying to find unique ways to play kind of the clear game of the week yeah i feel like i need to look at a little bit more i'm i'm worried our ownerships are light on dallas right now i think this sims right now really like dallas but i think we might see the ownership come up even further given that is the one clear comfortable game that could change things i mean just this is a good reason for why we do the exercise we're doing now which is you do kind of see the value and if you can hit on these contrarian stacks and play these strong running backs the one thing i'll say is it is a pretty deep running back pool again like we had week one and just like week one there's going to be a couple guys that project as good values that just have to get squeezed because not everyone can get played and you know it was like swift last week derrick henry last week and these guys that have really huge ceilings so um i'm interested in in that if i'm playing the dallas stuff that's where i'm going the other way and playing you know maybe going back to marshawn lloyd who failed everybody as chalk on fanduel last week but now projects for way less ownership and you don't need them quite as much and you know it's a it's a much better matchup for him so there's there are you kind of those are the competing interests right it's like the stuff we're doing with the chalk running backs versus playing dallas and getting off those chalk running backs for a play like uh lloyd and fanduel scoring is interesting with you know the emphasis on touchdowns even a guy like um you know you could leverage like jacory croskey merit in that game like let's say washington plays from ahead and you get a low on jacory croskey merit who's getting a lot of touches in a game playing from ahead finds the box you kind of get the double leverage where you get him at low ownership um you get off the game and then you could play and another expensive stack besides dac or i guess you could play that with with the dac stuff and hope that dac's playing and and we know they'll chuck from behind and you get a low owned piece in that game stack do you ever think about obviously there's plays uh on fanduel that make more sense with the half point ppr guys like bill who aren't going to catch a ton of passes do you ever think about you know hey i'm going to get my exposure to that on fanduel versus draft kings or is it like look the the projection and the sim and the lineups are going to capture like who's a good play and i don't really have to think about exposure split across sites i generally don't think about the across sites when i will do it is like let's say there's a play i really like on draft kings and it doesn't quite make the cut and it's a better play on fanduel then i'm like i better make sure at least get them in my fanduel lineup i do like to look for though i feel like the the ownership like there's plays like lloyd last week that are just obvious fanduel plays they're going to get played even though they're not played on draft kings yeah but then i do think there's guys that like get pumped on draft kings that are like similar values on fanduel so they get pumped there so like sometimes there's like this second or third tier fanduel specific plays that like aren't the very best fanduel plays and they're not the draft kings values either and sometimes i get excited to to play those because i don't think they really catch as much ownership as they could especially in the small field stuff yep i'm running just a generic set of a quarterback skinny stack with a bring back just to see maybe what other quarterbacks are bubbling up that we haven't specifically tested but sorting here by ownership at running back on fanduel uh it really is just tracking with the value bijan henry giovante there the overwhelming shock yeah when you do this sometimes what i'll do if you go to the uh advanced options is i might put like the max ownership by if you go to the top um that you can do max player exposure by position i think and you can set qb at like i don't know 10 or 12 so we don't get like all back teams when we do this gotcha so we're like pretty spread out as like a first run to like kind of get a sense of all the quarterbacks okay i i'm just gonna run this yeah run the run this set first but that's yeah i haven't utilized that field which makes sense too if it if it is just going to give us a ton of dac but that's interesting in its own right so we'll see how that uh how that grades out here i have a feeling the deck stuff's gonna look good right now but like i said i think the ownership's probably got to come up but that that max ownership that's not something i would do if i was playing an mme set like that i would do if i was playing an mme set like that i would do if i was playing an mme set like that i would do if i was playing an mme set like for my final mme set it's just something i do to make sure i test enough variety of lineups yep uh also before we look at this and this isn't a start sit show but imagine telling any of us that this would be a week to question uh two weeks ago should i start bo nicks or carson wince i think your brain would just explode there uh do you have an answer what a world guy i'm gonna go with bo nicks brother i'm gonna go with bo nicks as well um looking at these two teams i'm gonna go with bo nicks lineups this is why you uh smartly suggested putting a cap on quarterback ownership because we are getting a ton of dak prescott but it is nice to see bo nicks is the only other quarterback that shows up in these top 20 lineups so rohan was on to something nice yeah that that was a good shout out for sure and you get bone nicks with the oh did we do but we forced to bring back i did force it yeah that's right yeah go to qb let's see what else sometimes some jayden on a quarterbacks that's yeah the four that show or the five was dak bo nicks jayden herbert bryce young someone was mentioning the herbert stuff here um herbert to qj is what's your lean on lad think he he sits probably i think he sits um i you know my lean on the big receivers this week is they're all sitting nico lad and zay flowers like yeah it's early in the year they haven't been practicing i'd be surprised if any of those suited up yep you do see trey tucker as the bring back in both of these i mean stylistically that's always kind of a nice bring back where you get a guy who can hit for the big plays in speed the game up there why don't we run it once with that setting you suggested to get a little bit more variety um here so you mentioned if you go into the advanced tab max player exposure by position we'll set it at 10 quarterbacks so we'll get at least what 10 10 different quarterbacks here yeah we'll probably get more but minimum of 10 okay um yes m stockton uh bo nicks did look like hot diarrhea last week but that's probably in a weird way why the sims like him because of the low ownership you still have a decent team total you have a game environment that i could think uh could be back and forth with the jag so it feels gross but i don't hate it man there's a few immediate buy low spots from week one you know bo nicks being one of them with waddle you know jamar chase if people don't go back to that one i mentioned marshall lloyd already uh there's going to be a few spots for sure uh it was a crazy week one in terms of the contrast and performances with so many points scored if you had a running back that performed poorly you're really down on that player because there were so many outlandish running back performances out there so i think it's going to be a good week one i think it's going to be a good for sure uh while this is running do you want to do uh any victory lapping about your your bills crushing it on on thursday night football last night that i i will victory lap the bills i part of it's a non-victory lap because i was very skeptical of joe brady as as the coach but i feel like he's unlocking the best version of josh allen which is basically all i care about in the head coach you know with that quarterback like just put him in position to do what you want to do he can do and i i almost don't care about anything else so it's been an absolute pleasure to watch and uh of course dalton kincaid doing well which is like my biggest stand in the in the off season it's you know let's just hope he stays healthy it looks like it's going to happen for him if he does yeah and what are you guys have you huddled around for the dj more prayer circle it sounds like he's going to be all right i think they said ac joint which should be like max a couple weeks so i'm feeling pretty good there i'm already at the point with the uh watching the bills where i'm like squinting like every wide receiver who catches the ball looks the same or i was like is that dj more is it oh it's joshua palmer oh it's khalil shakir like they have the thing where they're like all the same height and look the same um all right let's see here we're pumping out a few more lineups. I'm going to go ahead and just cancel this and sim the 435 lineups. This is trying to get a little bit more variety of quarterback here. I'm curious your read on the field in this Chicago-Minnesota game because that's an interesting one to me this week in terms of the projections on it are fine, but obviously between the offseason quotes from Ben Johnson about wanting to be the highest scoring team, and they score 59 week one and give up 37, I can see people like that's sort of the game I want to be on the opposite side of ownership of either way. Yeah, well, and it's so funny too because I think because of the Aaron Jones chalk emerging, it's going to get people into that game maybe more than they otherwise would have because I think people are down to do like one-off Loveland, one-off Burden, you know, like let's just go back to the well. But now I'm worried like you add Aaron Jones, you throw in some Carson. Wentz value. I could see it being sneakily higher than you would otherwise expect. Yeah, the Wentz-Jefferson ownership is really interesting to try and get a handle on this week. And then we talked about by low. Loveland is the by low this week as well. He could be a really good play on FanDuel. We do get a Jordan Love team in here. Green Bay is an interesting one to think about. They were up in tempo, which we had hoped they would be week one. We just. We can't quite get them to crack and do a positive pass right over expectation. You know, Adam and I have had the same conversation, I think like 13 times over the past two seasons where it's like this might be the week that they throw the ball a lot more and it doesn't happen. Obviously, Love threw the ball a ton last week. That was kind of game script and pace. But in terms of expected fantasy points, the wide receivers for Green Bay lapped every other wide receiver group in the league with them not rotating, which in the past, obviously they've rotated a ton. And like you want to talk about like concentrated plays. You have Christian Watson and Golden who cleared, you know, everybody there as far as their roles. Garrett Wilson, like the clear number one target hog on the Jets. Like that's just a clean stack and a bring back. One thing I'd throw to you now, and again, we've only spent like a half hour testing, but we continue to see the same other ancillary pieces in virtually every lineup. Bijan, Aaron Jones, Mark Andrews, Javante are. I mean, we're. We're testing stacks as opposed to some, maybe some other, you know, low owned skill position plays. But is this, is it enough evidence where you're like, all right, I'm just going to eat this chalk if I'm going the contrarian stack way? Or are you starting to see like, hey, there's another running back play I really like. I want to see how that tests. Like how unavoidable is some of this chalk with a contrarian stack, I guess. Yeah, I think that's where I might, like once I finally, let's say we're on Knicks. We're like, okay, Knicks, Knicks is simming well. We're going to do Knicks. I might lock in. You know, I might do a group of lower owned running backs that I like on the slate and say, play at least one of these. So maybe there's a group of sub 15% owned running backs. And I say, play at least one of these and we'll just do our normal, you know, our Bo Knicks game stack. We can lock Waddle if we want to, since we know it's going to be Waddle. So let me pull up the. So I'd say Ramondre Stevenson, Marshawn Lloyd, David Montgomery. Yep. Hampton, Brees Hall. You know, we could say Chuba is a little bit owned. DeAndre Swift, Saquon Barkley, Jadarian Price, Bucky. Let's. And you'd go this big, just, yeah, like. I'd go this big to, you know, and then I'd say at least one and then I'd run it and be like. And then this is the test of like, were those lineups just biased because we tested so many chalk running back lineups or is there actually a different version? And then as far as my interpretation of it, it changes between now and Sunday morning. Now I'm kind of like, well, maybe these running backs are going to be more owned than I think they are, is sort of where my head's at. If it was Sunday morning and I know our team's got the ownership dialed in, then that's where I'm like, okay, I guess that's just the move this week. It's like, if I'm playing the contrarian stack, I'm going to eat the chalk at running back. Yeah, and for our audio listeners here, I'm down in the advanced tab going to player group. So there's the generic stacks, which I'm generally looking at, you know, force a double stack, a single stack, what kind of bring back you want to do. But then you can go to the player groups and have a min max. So I just set it at at least one and then put that entire group of lower owned running backs and now rerunning with the same set here. So we'll let a few of these populate. But yeah, it continues. To get into like how many different like nooks and crannies you can get into as you, you test stuff here. And sometimes though, you'll test something like this and you'll get a clear answer right away, which is like all the top lineups, you know, or like all these ROIs are much lower than the three chalk running back lineup. And then you don't really have to, you could check off that you tried it and move along. Yes. All right, let's see here. Leone, as these continue to populate, we are going to have the badge bros joining in about a minute. About five minutes. We will talk through this slate from an underdog perspective. I am going to have a after dark tomorrow night with Leone's colleague, Sam brought excited to talk with Sam. He did a, a, a review show lineup review show with Leone earlier this week, looking at his Thunderdome win. If you guys want more details on that, of course, establish the million tomorrow, as always with Dink and Leone, anything else people should be checking out here. All right. Silva and I are doing the man versus machine shows on Thursday. We did our first one yesterday. We, we talked up the bills prior to them going nuclear again. So that was fun. So we'll be doing that. And then I, you, I don't know if you mentioned the lineup bills show. I was, I was looking at my projections, but I do that Saturday nights, which is kind of a version of what we're doing now. Yes. Great stuff there. I'm going to just kill this again. Sometimes you got to kill it. Cause it's just. We're, we're taxing it with too many, too many rules here. So let's see here. One more quarterback thing. Plus the running back thing probably slowed it down a little. Yes. So we'll see if any of these more contrarian running backs look good, or if that previous set stands out. I have noticed sometimes though, you'll have. Oh, so we get, we get some. Yeah. These, these SIM ROIs 135. 135, 134, 127 are in line with the others. And so even the bone Knicks, which is the contrarian one, including a Barkley in here. Cause it makes sense if the DAC ones don't mind it because it's like, Hey, you're going to be chalky elsewhere, throw in an 11% remand Ray, but seeing it with the Herbert with the Knicks and some of these off the beaten path place still in here is, is kind of encouraging. Yeah. And that's again, why we test it. So if you're confused why we didn't see any of these lineups before, it's just cause when you're running, even if you're running with variants and stuff, you're still mostly just getting the best projected plays. So that's why you do kind of sometimes have to test this stuff. So that's definitely interesting to see. One thing I was doing last week, which I just haven't been doing today for whatever reason is utilizing the quick select in saving these top lineups. And then you can actually run them all together and compare them. You know, I've just been kind of ballparking it, but I would recommend saving these as you go. And then you can really compare. Compare them. Well, yeah. One thing I mentioned last week too, you know, it depends a little bit on field size, but sometimes if I get similarly simming lineups, I do sort of shade the way of the contrarian one, just because I think, you know, as much as we try to get the ownership, right. I do think usually it's more likely that if you're playing a low on guy, it comes in a little lower and the high on guy comes in a little bit higher than the opposite. Assuming you trust the projection on the low on guy. Generally, there's a reason that he's, he's low on and you have these things as well, which is that ETR likes him more than the market. But assuming you like that, I do like going with the more contrarian teams. For sure. Yeah. And like you see here, the two bone Knicks lineup sandwich in it's like anything, right? If I told you I gave you two lineups and they had the exact same projection and once, you know, had 20% less ownership, you're going to pick the one with 20% ownership, less ownership every time. So yeah. Shout out Rohan for getting us on the bone Knicks stuff, because those have bubbled up organically as well here. Multiple times. I feel like that one is relatively safe from some steam too. So maybe us talking about it, we'll ruin that a little bit, but I think it's relatively safe. Whereas like the Jordan loved one, I could see getting steamed a bit more. Another thing I noticed, we're getting a wide variety of defenses. Whereas last week it was kind of like, just, just by these chalk cheap defenses and don't think too much about it. But a lot, a lot of different defenses. Yes. You know, you can, you can mess with the Sims all you want, or you can just kind of throw your hands up in the air and say, fuck it. Give me a bangle stack. You know, that is a, another way you can play things here. As I said, if you guys want to mess around with the solver and you are new to the product, take advantage of promo code peak 10 to get $10 off the solver optimizer or simulator. I have a fun, a ton of fun messing around with these and look forward to digging in even more on Sunday when we get more concrete projections and news, but Leone, Good show is always my man. We are going to head over and talk some underdog here, but, uh, I will catch you. next week and hopefully another thunder dome win under your belt i'll take it that would be amazing thanks pete all right we will see you there goes mike leone let's get ready for some off and on the clock fan duel is now available everywhere in the u.s so you can get in on the sports action no matter where you are including these places make this your most rewarding season ever with fan dual age and location restrictions apply product availability varies by market see fanduel.com for eligibility gambling problem call 1-800-GAMBLER all right there he is john warner here how are we doing buddy we got nez hey oh i don't know i just assumed so there he is yes you're ready to go how are we doing guys i was i was on a delay on the on the stream so i was just just a couple seconds behind here so apologies no you are you are good here uh john i i believe i saw reference to it and then leonie mentioned it too is your is your news public about a new thing you're going to be doing this fall yeah i mentioned it on one of our streams there i'm supposed to hop on and do an initial double dribble with the crew uh unfortunately didn't work out on wednesday night when they did their first one there and that'll make it officially official but i have said on the stream that yes the the hoops guy is uh is graciously taking his talents uh to etr but my thumb will be nowhere near the scale of the projections don't worry okay there we go well that's exciting news very well deserved and uh yeah man i mean for john i mean that mr you know living life touching grass like you're gonna have to grind your cock to the nub once you get under that etr umbrella you know what i did say this to nez at one point that i'm looking forward to just like challenging myself a little bit and like having to commit to something every damn day i mean we've been doing that with the badge bros for the last little bit but we've been pretty flex and been able to make our own schedule and stuff like that uh i'm i'm looking forward to pushing my own boundaries uh a little bit here there you go uh it's like i mean you you you're technically post-contract but you're still kind of in a contract year so you're you're feeling motivated well i mean according to you i don't even have one yet if i'm baker mayfield so uh yeah we we'll figure it out as we go here wait wait a second has anyone done this before you've done this yet this is pretty good establish the roto run oh wow i mean i would expect the best player on the site to come up with the best name as well that's that's pretty legit man so we had easy tr and now establish the roto run i mean look at these brand fits here incredible unreal unreal uh also the chat talking about a clean face nez is this because you are mourning uh another non-boom jmo game uh you know i did this before so maybe i kind of i don't know i don't know i've mushed it because i i shaved before the game but yeah i know that wasn't what you wanted to see but i i think honestly i i have a lot of cope for for what happened uh last night but when when they put up that many points you would like jmo to be involved uh for sure but he was doing way more dirty work for them than i would have liked to have seen but there'll be brighter days you know i mean news slash jmo uh has a boomer bus profile so we are just uh going through a bit of a bus stretch here good rep dude dude i was just about to say the parallels between waymo cutting his hair off and sucking and you cutting your hair off and sucking in these games i mean what are we doing chad says this feels like uh he feels like a kid when your dad shaves his mustache i remember that yeah i know i always i know i always feel bad when i when i do it uh because like the wife you guys my son you know luckily april's never gonna have to worry about that phenomenon with dad uh because it would take me about a year to grow out something of any substance here uh but sweet uh we've been talking salary cap draft kings fan duel all of that with jm yuda and leonie now it is time to dig into this battle royale slate i will toss it to you guys uh what are we seeing in the landscape i know yesterday i was pulling up some adps i was like oh matthew golden's looking pretty nice there were some fun scrolls just by my cursory glance but what's the landscape looking like uh yeah i'd agree with you there i think there's a pretty locked in stone kind of like top seven eight ish in a bit uh barkley and gently genti fall out of that grouping at some frequency for people pulling up jason mcbride and then outside of that there's there's a whole lot of scrolling um because i think people are in this land of flux right now where they think there's you know as it's been alluded to on the show already that they think there's like one good game environment and then everything else is are we aping into the sample of last week or are we sticking with our priors from before there and that's the delicate balancing act of week two i think there's a lot of fun scrolls but that's not going to surprise anybody uh this morning i was kind of like really really tethered to like my first three picks and then everything else was like 34 plus kind of vibe uh i will bring up a screen for you um yeah what are you seeing this yeah it is a really flat uh slate i think uh there there's asymmetrical game environments for sure however i think just in terms of uh when you're when you're drafting and you're you know thrown into the into the lobby and you're looking at adps it's definitely uh you know you can get trapped for sure i think you know evergreen it's it's a really good scroll slate but not even necessarily like scrolling past uh pick 30 or whatever it's more so just like living in the range of like the 20s and 30s and not even scrolling that far but just like putting combos together that people maybe are not doing because they just gravitate to whatever is top of top of q top of adp over and over and over and as somebody with a you know 150 set incoming i'm definitely looking to uh get a little get a little weird with my stuff i did a second round mark andrews to like get to get weird uh earlier today so just like kind of ignoring adp on this one because i think there's just a a million good plays and you know this is really week one part two but a lot of people kind of treat this as you know week two with like we know what's up now like now we know and like we don't we literally have no idea yeah i mean like some working sample is better than no sample at all but like there's a lot of systemic failure risk even in like the high profile names at like the top of the board here that are going every single time so i like what you're doing there nez where you're like hey just f it mark andrews ends up being tight end one with nose flowers etc right because you look at this top end right now and we got a lot of faith in some good players at the top end here but the mcafree role wasn't exactly what we wanted to see in week one you can do the yo-yo effect with derrick henry that um jm was talking about you know bijon's got a backup quarterback jsn's got a backup quarterback justin jemerson's got a backup quarterback like you could start poking holes in everything at the top and if you just fade like two of those guys like just bake in systemic failure of the offense because it's not as clear that these teams are exactly who they are in week two because of the backup quarterback situations then all of a sudden you introduce a completely new path that nobody's taking because everyone's clicking on these high profile names because they were all round one picks in best ball yup let's uh do you guys want to is there anything else macro or do you want to maybe go position by uh position here i i do think the one macro thing is like wide this week uh just there's something going on with pretty much everybody uh in the top like five at wide receiver so like jsn's got a backup qb uh jefferson's got a backup qb uh cd just had a bad coming off a bad game jamar chase is coming off a bad game now he has a really tough matchup uh chris olave is banged up uh and and is in a you know could be what could be a tough matchup as well pick and just had a bad game so like these are the top wide receivers on the team on on this slate and i think all of them kind of are don't none of them really feel all that cozy when you kind of consider those factors uh i i do really like jefferson don't get me wrong but it is just sort of an interesting wide receiver slate i think yeah the other wrinkle i'd add in on that nez is the swapping dynamics of this week because people early in the week were taking lads a flowers nico collins so people are going to swap into more ownership especially if they're a wide receiver position because that's where all the swaps are coming from not the running back position there will also be the brock bowers swap but that's presumably not a not a flex position but just mindful of like the artificial inflation of ownership that's going to take place of this next middle tier here uh especially if you're one of the drag and drop etr guys because you know we're probably going to end up with these three doubtful tags turning to out tags and then all of a sudden like early in the week lineups are going to swap in or they're going to default swap into this chunk of player pool here making like the scrolls down here even more uh potent from an ownership standpoint yeah that's a good shout like what would you say the line is for the uh the default swap this week the guy who gets thrust into the most uh probably probably parker washington parker washington garrett wilson area right there because they were not 100 drafted early in the week and now they're kind of like the beneficiaries of the other fallers in in adp yeah i'd agree with that yeah so that that's a good a good note there and also like it does i mean of these three guys being out i mean what the only guy who comes on the radar because of it's probably qj i think it's probably a decent deep scroll if lad is out but i mean are we really messing with any pass catchers on or wide receivers i should say on houston or baltimore not not in this format no probably not probably just lack ceiling in general i mean you could maybe spin zone me into bateman because it's direct leverage off the other two guys especially if mark andrews is going to be going as high as he is like you could spin zone me into bateman on this site um but yeah it's it's pretty far-fetched yep um all right why don't we go position by position here at quarterback um you got lamar you got caleb you got hertz dac brock purdy and jayden as your top six obviously this dac and jayden matchup is of interest to everyone but again like similar to last week the projections i'm looking at here really tight basically from you know qb6 all the way down to like qb10 or 11 here so evergreen great quarterback scroll slate yeah definitely uh for me like i definitely am not loving the the qb chalk as far as you know lamar could i think could go either way but i'm sort of leaning uh like against him as qb1 just without without zay man and who knows what this game environment will be like how much he's gonna run this year he did run more than and he ran for a touchdown last week so like that was like interesting that was sort of like the big knock on him the last like year or so is that he doesn't really run around the end zone anymore so maybe he just runs more uh without zay and then like i really look look foolish i know that there's a lot of range of outcomes there but definitely off lamar on the whole caleb's a tough one for me man i i really am not loving the matchup against minnesota but i also think that there's like huge upside here as well with the the blitz heaviness of the vikings and the fact that i think the vikings are going to be able to put up points without even without kyler um maybe because kyler isn't playing uh soon soon soon to find out but um with with these with these blitz packages man i think caleb can you know he has a scramble ability still and he can still like make big plays happen so i think that there's you know a large range of outcomes for for caleb but also i think that there's a lot of range of outcomes for for caleb but i think on ultimately the the top two qbs are not two that i'm that i'm venturing towards even jalen hurts i also have some question marks just looking at the the the caleb stuff too i was just going to say like he is going to be when he is used it's going to be almost entirely with loveland right so it's almost like the caleb loveland stuff doesn't look quite as good but if you're doing you know caleb and swift caleb bird and caleb adunze at least you're getting into a more unique portion there yeah uh pico beat me to uh to the punch on the caleb stuff there that i do like the flipping of the script of last week where it's like everybody wants to be like hey look at how strong the usage for loveland last week was and just cope the hell out of it and now we're still treating him like he belongs in this upper echelon tier what if it's just luther burden or rome or something like that and those are the skinny stacks that get home i still think it's probably viable to just play caleb naked um but i i like all the points that brought up with like the flores defense he's traditionally struggled with and the blitz heavy pressure rate stuff is just probably not his game but who knows this could be a completely different uh monster this bears team so i don't want to get caught with none but i think i'm going to do it in a fashion that nobody else is doing it and that's going to be through luther burden and rome like that's going to be my my contrarian skinny stack when i play the chalk running backs at the top there um obviously like the the jayden daniels we led with him on the preview on tuesday jayden and bucky were our two like initial stands they've both gotten steamed up since then i've kind of been living in this pocket of four right here i really like the idea of going i was really impressed to find out that like the pace up environment uh in thorman's column column is going to be like kind of aping into what we saw from the steelers last week and then a bounce back for new england without aj brown like i kind of like playing naked drake may and i like playing drake may uh skinny stack with hunter henry and we just go like hey they're limited weapons maybe they just go back to what worked for them last year eight targets to hunter henry and two touchdowns and that's like two birds one stone i've been loving this little pocket um and playing them all naked is fine i like playing them with the running backs as well uh for three out of four of them not drake may but i played the other three with the running backs but this is kind of where i've been living from an ownership uh standpoint and a game environment standpoint yeah honestly i've been kind of all over the board um i i've you know really been gravitating towards the the the jayden daniels and dac scott stuff it is like pretty steamy and obviously like is it going to be really chalky but that's where i feel the most comfortable where i'm getting to in terms of scrolls here is is bow nicks though and just like flop lag bow nicks um qb 13 is just like kind of crazy man you look literally everywhere and it's like okay what what do we got for this game well we have two qbs that project really well we have a we have a really close spread and we have a game at home and it's a 46 point total i mean what are we it's just so funny man it's just a perfect example of like week two brain and how oh bow nicks look bad uh first game back against the spags defense and arrowhead can't play them against the jags like can't just just simply can't do it the jack the jack you see the jags defense they look awesome against the deshaun watson so uh bow nicks uh feels awesome to me you can i think naked is fine uh because who knows how real the pat bryant role is but flop lag on on waddle as well feels feels uh feels really really strong that the just contextually um speaking here and i know it's kind of different the way the game sets up but exact same game total as the game total for the niners and dolphins and there's like six pieces that get drafted five pieces that get drafted almost every single draft from that game and there's basically none that get drafted from this game and you could see a on rj harvey so like he popped up later in the week and then went limited limited uh maybe that opens up something for dobbins maybe that condenses something more for the past catchers because he was pretty heavily involved in the trailing script with like four catches i believe five targets something like that in week one so uh yeah man you might also getting condensed uh iteration of denver here yeah and just looking like right outside of those top six like the top six quarterbacks by adpr also i want to say the top six for ceiling projection and then right outside of that your nicks your may your herbert and your trevor lawrence like that that looks like the br sweet spot for this week and i i gravitate to nixon lawrence just because i like that game environment i think the stacking options are nice may you pretty much just run naked right unless uh you are buying what len key says which is that john has never said no to a drake may and trevion henderson stack there it's true it's true but i do really like the henry stuff i did the henry stuff and i do really like the henry stuff and i do really like the henry stuff three times this morning and i'm gonna have a i'm gonna have a may henry to bomb team yeah yes um let's do i i i cannot i mean it's friday and i can't get get away with any non-weather conversation here here we go we i mean we've been talking about the jets weather uh and now he's even wanting to toss jacksonville denver in it you guys want to have any evergreen weather conversations i mean yeah i was the guy who brought up the the potential east coast monsoons last week that we're going to roll through and they canceled the div three football game on friday and oh the trickle down effects and then there was not even an ounce of rain in that atlanta and pittsburgh game so i'd give it some time but i do understand when you go to nflweather.com and you do look at that little emblem there's like three thunderstorm ones and there's six games with like cloud and rain uh currently on the website so i can see that that's a little scary right now um in people's minds i guess can we get better you know how we talk about like the power of uh a q tag or an out tag just impacting adp or whatever can you imagine if we had little weather tags on here like you just put a little raindrop next to a game i mean that's a that's at least a three to four spot doc in adp oh my god the level of god the psychological warfare that we could inflict would just be incredible yes uh waterboard via emoji yeah yeah um any other quarterbacks you want to hit uh we were talking i know john you were talking when we were in the in the chat with yuda he was in on the baker stuff we were simming some of that stuff with leonie too i think baker stacks are pretty fun yeah baker stacks for sure um igbuka is cheap enough to go there godwin's role was okay but it was better in camp kind of vibes um i like the stack with bucky you mean that bucky pass catching role from week one looks sticky as hell um so yeah i i'm i'm good with all of those uh yeah i like i i mean if i was gonna rank these i think baker will be like my most heavily drafted i think may will be the second and then herbert lawrence nicks for me that's kind of how i'm treating it uh yeah last call here i told john in the preview i would draft carson wentz if he's announced a starter i have some kyler swaps to make this week boys and uh you know who's gonna be at the top of my swap ranks it's gonna be carson wentz baby uh we've seen him have multiple 300 yard games uh with the vikings in the past and this this bears team looks like generational fantasy wise for us and without jordan mason as well like how much can they actually lean on the run there's also no jawan jennings this week like it's going to be super concentrated and i think super super high volume as well um it's really hard for me to to not actually like take carson wentz seriously here as like a one percent play that i think could like actually like rival for qb1 on a slate where like we kind of are throwing some cold water on the top of qb's here yeah and i mean we we saw this this meta play out multiple times last year with like darnold with jsn obviously goff with almond raw where you get these scroll down quarterbacks that are a little uninspiring because they don't have the rushing juice they get overlooked i think rightfully so but when they're tethered to an elite wide receiver who goes nuke even if they might not be getting to 30 like getting 26 points for the from wentz in that really high-end jefferson outcome can often put them in the optimal lineup um partly because the opportunity cost was nothing it was your your sixth round pick there too so yeah um i mean i don't know how far you want to push it but like you know you could you could include drew lock in similar light like if you're taking jsn and he is nuking uh locks probably having an okay game um i love that just to to add some some context uh to nez's take there was one game of 100 yards for or sorry two games of 100 yards for jordan addison last year and there was three games of justin jefferson with 100 yards last year uh four of those five games came with carson wentz at the helm no other quarterback got either of those guys over said milestone wow wow there you go um let's head over to the running back position here um pretty strong week for running back just with the studs and then you get some of the like non-studs in good spots um as well uh are you guys scrolling much at running back or just kind of playing the best place uh i'm i'm i'm team scroll for my second one unless i layer up two of these top six basically like if i can get two of these top six it's all good by me and then if i'm not taking two of those top six i'm basically gonna have zero david montgomery this week like i mean you can go to the running back position and you can get two of those top six and then you can get two of hunting against presumably a bad bangles defense but we think that bangles defense a little bit better than last year and i'm the amount of woody marks that we saw and stuff like that like it's just propped up by the touchdowns right so i'll play a little bit of h and i'll play a little bit of swift but bucky's gotten the steam job bucky was our favorite to start the week there hampton's cool by me chase is good by me um and then i did a little bit of chuba and did tootin a couple times as well down as like kind of like scrolls but yeah kind of a evergreen statement to be soft fading that middle tier in particular david montgomery yeah it's sort of like our mo around here is like fading that that tier of running backs and i've been in the same boat really uh haven't done a ton of deandre swift but uh i might i might get a little bit more of him with like these top echelon running backs just because that's a high total game and you know he could he could have a lot of a lot of touchdowns be just because ben johnson's trying to set records my favorite scroll this week though jadarian price uh just like again leaning into the fact that we like are are now respecting the cardinals because they beat the chargers and we have price and halani here and price i mean you you it it takes no like level of knowing the sport to see these two and and like wonder who's the better player and there's a very very like high likelihood that the cardinals get like molly whopped here and if that's the case and it's just sack it's turnover and there's just like very few possessions for the cardinals because they can't get shit going then price is going to we won't have to worry about the the the backfield share you know we are just going to be able to play price because he is good and they're going to probably run the ball a little bit more than they normally would with drew lock there uh instead of instead of darnold so price so under the radar here i didn't even want to say this name but i said it anyways because i think he's just such a jam yeah i like it dude the only cold water you can throw is uh drew lock at the helm the way the cardinals played last week and the fact that halani had the red zone touches like he had the two high value touches and uh jadarian did not we're going to say it right around here eggers don't worry about it um but yeah no i i like that i'm going to mix them in now that you've brought them up there uh just like the classic the the classic like by the talent and hope it works out kind of deal the the other one down there by price i mean bill strikes me as a really nice scroll like if you're trying to find ways to get into that game um he's a really just sick one-off piece right where you basically play the contrarian game script that washington controls the game and bills get into 20 carries um that's like a really nice way i mean you could do many correlations of him with a cowboy's pass catcher for sure but i kind of like it as like the one-off game and i think that's a really nice way to get into that game and i think that's a really of just like what if the commanders actually control this one yeah yeah yeah me too the one guy just sorry you can set us up no i was gonna say anyone have the stomach for marshall lloyd i think i did it once i think i did it once um yeah it's just i just don't the jets are a bit of a mystery box they beat up on a really bad titans team but they were also dogs in that one so like who are they actually like good are they you know i i i have no idea and i really don't know what to make of marshall lloyd but he you know he out he out touched brooks so that's good uh i was gonna say i don't know how i feel about uh lamar and hampton this week um he's he kind of i think is is sort of in like a bounce back spot but the concerns kind of you know showed up for us in week one where it's like man is he gonna command enough of the of the backfield touches to to matter and and right now it looks like he doesn't have like that strength and he doesn't have enough of the backfield touches to to matter stranglehold on the on the backfield that we were hoping for uh so i'm i'm not necessarily in love with him here yep uh john any other takes before we get over to wide receiver i don't know like they paid travis etn all that money and i know it was trailing script i know they were throwing at least he had the pass catching role maybe i don't know maybe camara back this week is that's true yeah have you have you seen the pick them numbers for travis a chan brother no i have not oh man oh man yeah 53 and a half combined yo yikes that is a that's getting there that's like such a a spin that you almost like want to just play the higher on it yeah that's a yeah that's a that's a buy the pick them fade the draft good that's crazy wow um all right yeah let's head over to wide receiver we did just get official news that nico collins is listed out for this week yeah i think we kind of saw that one coming after the midweek thing there but does anyone have the the stomach for like hey the browns aren't that bad and samson's out now that you can go to the judkins play fan duel is now available everywhere in the u.s i've been everywhere man i've been everywhere so you can get in on the sports action no matter where you are including these places make this your most rewarding season ever with fan duel age and location restrictions apply product availability varies by market see fanduel.com for eligibility gambling problem call 1-800-GAMBLER i mean i nez you're the judkins guy i know yeah no well i i didn't i thought that the the bucks run defense is uh i think that their run defense is stronger than than the jags but they're i i would say they're definitely the worst team here so um yeah it's interesting but i mean like raheem sanders is like the one for one replacement for samson so it's not like there's like opportunities opening up he just like stepped right in to that role uh and and kind of like looked good doing it so it the browns are interesting it's like they they they will run the ball like more than they probably should what will they what will they get out of it yeah no i'm not sure i just thought i'd throw it out there and i mean i never like playing any run game against vita bay so whatever right just yeah uh all right wide receivers here obviously the big dogs at the top there lamb chase jefferson jsn pickings, et cetera, but, uh, all kinds of scroll options. Looks like about a million guys projected between 10 to 12 points on this slate. Who are your guys' favorite wide receiver picks? Yeah, so I think it's kind of like 100% drafted should be Pickens, and then that's the end of the 100% draft tier. And then I think you kind of can get scrolling from there. I mentioned the Burden and Rome stuff just as contrarian ways to play Caleb. Then also the Washington guys as just contrarian ways to tack on to the game environment that we like there. I really like Garrett Wilson this week in general. And then a little bit of like the Buka stuff mixed in. You could do the Waddle stuff with the Knicks. So a lot of skinny stack stuff that goes in tandem with the quarterbacks that we were liking as scroll options. They kind of go hand in hand this week. Yeah, I will say like in terms of like just to kind of touch on this topic, because I think it is sort of a one like ambiguous tier that just happens to be sorted by an ADP. I prefer Jefferson here, and I think you could probably make the case that Jefferson should go like two or three. Super into Justin Jefferson, man. I mean, John Jenkins didn't really do shit in his first game, but, you know, this spot, I think, just sets up so, so well for him. And, yeah, with the way this bears. Defense looks, I would really like to have a lot of Jefferson, and I do, and I plan on continuing to do so. So I just kind of want to touch on this this tier. Like for me, it's Jefferson and then and then these guys. But, you know, CD, I think, has a case to be taken over JSN as well. But it's ambiguous and it's kind of like unique in that way where normally it's pretty like cut and dry. This week, it is a little bit of choose your own adventure. So, yeah, it's it's interesting in that regard. Yeah, I respect the take there. And as you like, I think I think it's like pretty clear how draft set up this week is it's like pick your poison of like this one out of three and you can flip flop as you see fit at the running back position. Then pick your poison at the one out of four at those wide receivers. And then it's kind of like do whatever you want. But Waddle and Pickens should also be 100 percent drafted. Like that's kind of what it is. What do you think? But Clarence ADP actually settles that because he still has to be the default stack. Are Daniels drafters? Yeah, I don't know. I've seen some people do some digs. I've seen a lot of naked Daniels. Like we're all looking for the guy who made that happen. And the master class data pointed everyone in that direction. I think I think people are just fading the skinny stack with him. They see what he did last week. They see that, hey, this might be a little bit more muddy than we think here because digs is there. Now, we went down the rabbit hole on Tuesday of being like Terry's never commanded targets, despite coaches saying they want to. Give him 10 targets like we went back down the rabbit hole of like a couple years now. And it's just like Terry's not that dude like Terry's just like he's he's eight targets, but they turn into like four for one hundred and two on the games in which he smashes. So it's just like not a safe feeling for people to stack them. So I don't think he's going to get as steamed as you might think. Yeah. And to me, like that just stands out like a sore thumb. I mean, like McLaurin again, we are. I mean, we are not that far. We moved from Daniels and McLaurin, like breaking the B.R. Slate like every other week, taking these two like McLaurin was like his ADP was like pinned at 17. Always look slightly overvalued relative to projection. But I don't really think the thesis has changed, especially in a game environment like this. And now you're going to get him at sub 50 percent ownership. He he looks like a giga smash to me. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I think that you can definitely kind of wipe week one. Away from from Terry and the commanders and and see what kind of matchup we're getting here. Cowboys down their safety as well. They're starting safety in the hooker, I think is. And so that coupled with the fact that they already like looked bad against the Giants. I think that wasn't a great debut on primetime like that kind of got punched in the mouth there. So, yeah, I am definitely guilty of doing digs over Terry. Just, you know, I love to to kind of be contrarian. And I do think that. Diggs is, you know, kind of neck and neck with Terry. But like Pete said, man, we've seen this connection before. They have like the long a dot as well, or they can't have the long a dot. It's just going to be a vastly different matchup from going from the Eagles to going, you know, in a dome against against the Cowboys here. So, yeah, Terry, Jayden Daniels makes so much sense. Naked stacked. I think you could probably double stack it. But I would, you know, I'd be careful with that. Cause really, you really want some, some rushing with Jayden, but, but yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm into these guys. They're, they're, they're too cheap. Like we thought, I thought they would be chalk. I really did think that both those guys would be chalk and they're not. So if someone wants to let me Venmo them a hundred dollars for a Jayden bill, Terry McLaurin stack into bomb, you know, slide into my DMS. What other, what other wide receivers here? Ty mentioning a real sicko one, like Drake London, 35.5. It obviously feels gross with Cooper rush. But like, these are the type of plays that hit in BR, the studs who are being undervalued for whatever reason, matchup quarterback play. Like Drake London can still command 12 targets in this spot. He can still go for two touchdowns. How likely is that to happen? But like, he's the type of profile of player. Like you'd rather have a guy like him than like a Ryan Flournoy in the game of the week. Right? Like you want to chase the targets. Yeah. I mean, and, and, and alpha receiver with like no target. I don't think he's going to be in that kind of competition other than his starting running back here definitely is, is a good scroll, like out of principle it feels bad because Cooper rush was like, so, so awful, but yeah, this is a, this is probably an easier spot than Pittsburgh who has like a, it was kind of a nightmare for a third string QB to be making his season debut. I'm going through all the Cooper rush game logs of his career to see if he's ever thrown for more than 225 yards. I will report. I will report back in a bit here. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks. That's, that's a quality reporting that, uh, that, that, that we need out of you. Um, just to throw a couple of names here, um, and then we can move on just kind of rapid fire. Uh, we got Pittman officially listed as questionable, but like didn't play at all. Um, so I think that's like kind of interesting for DK Metcalf, uh, at 35.7, really, really low on play there has a chance to really concentrate targets, uh, been all over this Vikings game. I think Addison makes a lot of sense in this one. You can, you know, easily catch like two touchdowns on very, very little volume. He doesn't need a lot and he can really break a slate, uh, with, with that level of, uh, efficiency that, that he, that he can put up. So, uh, yeah, that, that was like, I think that's, yeah, that's the bottom of the scroll list for me. Um, I, I was considering Chris Godwin, but I don't know, man. I kind of think that, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm pissed that everybody told me that Chris Godwin looks good, dude. You can't, can't fade Chris Godwin. And then I, you know, reluctantly packed bags in, in August. And, uh, then we see Chris Godwin. It's oh yeah. I think this guy might have lost a step. So I don't know. Godwin and, and, uh, digs are like, just so good to give us 11 fantasy points and just like not break this slate, but like be like, viable men cash line guys, you know? Yes. Uh, one man, just one thing when you mentioned DK Metcalf and like how that game's kind of hard to play, like Metcalf and, uh, Drake may like that, that little pairing there just makes too much sense in my head. That was the last draft I just did in the BRS before we came on stream. Ned's Ned's was in that very same draft. And that's exactly what I did. Uh, I did it with Hunter Henry though, too. I did the skinny stack. And then DK on the bring back and like that, I mean, none of it's owned. And I was so shocked that that got written up as a pace up game, but that excites me for sure. Um, all right, let's see here. Rohan also mentioning T Higgins. Uh, yeah, not a bad shout there. Yeah. T T Higgins is, is, is a guy that if he just gets Gasecki's usage from last week, like he, he could break the slate for sure. But like, um, the, the burrow stuff just being stone cold chalk last week, everybody jamming it. And then nobody wanting to play it this week is just one of those classic like flop lag spots for sure. Yup. Um, over to tight end, uh, a clear King at the top in training bride, everyone wanting to chase the Loveland flop lag. Um, you kind of have a, uh, this middle ground here with craft Goddard. Um, as like a clear three, four, and then it is kind of, I'm guessing most people are kind of scrolling after Goddard or, or picking and choosing, I should say. Yeah. I mean, ETR is pushing everybody in the direction of Mark Andrews and like Mark Andrews being like the guy who's going to be a steam candidate for the week. And he's going to garner a lot of ownership and he might vault this tier, uh, just based on their bullish ranking and them kind of having Zay flowers like reduced or out of projections. Early. So Mark Andrews getting steam treatment. But yeah, that's kind of like the five. And then we were excited about Kittle early in the week, the Q tag. So a little alarming, I guess, um, after like the travel and, and just coming off the off season that he had. um but yeah man it's uh it's a little thinner last week we were really excited to scroll at tight end this week it's kind of like please mcbride don't don't make only like 15 of my lineups relevant right yeah i'm i'm surprised why is michael mayer completely buried people people tried that last week pete and and they're and they're done with it they tried it last week and he didn't find pay dirt so they're done with them i mean very good week to go back to it also a team i know he's not trey mcbride but uh the chargers got absolutely shredded by trey mcbride so yeah we had bowers like kind of sitting here with a q tag for a long time and now he's got the d tag and i think that was kind of like scaring people they didn't want to be caught without it and so yeah what's nice is i don't think there's going to be too many bowers team swapping to mayor so yeah i think i think mayor makes a ton of sense he projects really well uh in terms of like the tight end landscape uh maybe the ceiling is questionable but yeah i i like mayor here and then uh gotta give one more shout to the vikings here tj hawkinson uh scrolled to him uh a good bit in this game uh pretty big fan of his this week uh obviously love the spot so yeah um two of those games that you guys talked about already you talked about nicks and then now you're talking about michael mayor both of them in the top 10 in the utilization report after week one the other way to flip around and spin zone the michael pitman stuff is pat fryer muth in the top 10 seventh overall there in uh utilization report from week one did you do like fryer muth instead of dk and then run back like naked drake may on the other side of uh yeah potentially fun for sure definitely definitely yeah his his role was was real good uh week one i mean brenton strange has the touchdown he's another way to get into that game um you know i think you can mix and match obviously him with lawrence you could do a little bone nicks and brenton strange type action i could see that uh especially with how good denver is on the outside with the corners obviously parker washington's gonna be solid but as far as like two low owned that low owned double stack or not double stack but two players in lawrence and strange looks nice yeah always a lot of fun scroll options at tight end man there's always there's always something down here yeah all you have to do is just say like who scores one touchdown and gets to 40 yeah you're just looking for a touchdown well i mean this week even more so than last week because there were a lot of plays that we liked last week and obviously loveland falls flat on his face but the game environment didn't but like outside of mcbride this week it's kind of like way more palatable to be like okay maybe i only need like we're coming off the high ground and we're going to go to the high ground and we're going to go to the high ground and we're going to go to the high ground scoring week one ever and one of the highest score it was it would have been the second high scoring week of what was the high scoring week of last year but in terms of fantasy points to win a slate it was the second highest if we put last year week one in with last year so like the threshold to barrier to entry to your lineup like in our minds right now is so much crazier than it actually is right because we're like oh you had to have goddard's like 23 points you had to have kinkade's you know 19 or 20 you had to have mcbride breaking the slate kind of thing and then you had to have this week it's like you know we might be fine with 11 right yeah yep um the what's that schultz or fannon schultz or fannon you guys like those guys i think schultz is a good call with no nico i mean he already has a good role and i mean he's like what like the only one who's going to be a red zone threat for them at this point yeah 76 percent of routes in week one texans are still favored in that game wow without nico yeah yeah wow it's crazy did you guys know that nico had the 101 utilization report score in week one for all wide receivers no i did not but that is like par for the course where nico does something awesome and then gets hurt he's that's like that's his that's his calling card please don't come at me nico i know you are in these streets but uh yeah that's his calling card um all right do you guys want to uh you want to draft see what this looks like in uh in some of these contests tell us what's in the lobby here yeah let's do it uh we're going to the main br here three more spots in the main br um but we got all the side contests man wildcats a little bit bigger this week i know people like that three dollar entry point there you got a bigger debomb this week instead of running two iterations of it so that'll probably still be open for people on sunday morning so fullback dive the bomb and then we got the goal line stand run back at the same uh size as the previous week and then you got some of your double entries your single entries your 20 maxes and then you got your break broken down morning and afternoon uh slates there yeah i was pretty excited to see the uh the beefed up wildcat uh that's always like one of my favorites to to get in and max and i try some weird stuff and then uh old school debomb format love it and then uh i think that's the old school fullback dive format as well so uh yeah that's that's that's great to see and then you know hopefully we can get this br filled in a timely manner and then maybe uh you know see where things go from here but uh yeah it's it's it's uh it's nice to see uh og debomb in there i was thinking about uh yes i fully agree with you there necessary i i you you brought up the main br again i was thinking about like the the structural differences between the last couple years and it not being as top heavy it being a little bit does it set up as like a just raw points matter more in correlation just doesn't matter at all kind of vibe i think it kind of always i think it kind of always has yeah yeah um all the running backs go off to start the big three then genti goes off i think nez is going to tell us that justin jefferson's the play solvers telling us lamb pete you don't get to draft that much so who is the play here at wide receiver i like jefferson all right jefferson it is drink the kool-aid with me yeah i mean it's it's close between him and jsn but i think you break the tie to the jefferson game environment has the potential to just be way better yeah for sure better opportunity for the other team to push the pace the now we're gonna have the decision between like the big four wide receivers if they're still here or you can make the tramic bride call or if you think giovante belongs up with this crew let's do let's do mcbride and then then we can uh you know set something up later i like the mcbride call personally um i'm taking i i have a lot of him as well just because we talked about how flat this slate is and how it's like kind of nice to get different pairings and he really opens up the opportunity to do that while everybody kind of clears out uh the those those tier of uh running back and wide receivers i think jefferson's going to when it comes back to you it's way more like choose your own adventure and uh i'm a pretty big fan of that and also mcbride just is like i mean i know he's you know tight end one with a bullet but i still think he's like underrated i i really think that he's like underappreciated for like how insane he is like he gets like alpha wide receiver one usage that that's the thing about even like being able to get him in the second round um because one he can absolutely separate like he did last week and you he's a had to have at peace but he can also give you the floor of like you can still win the br with an 11 or 12 point week from trey mcbride if there's no like 25 point like nuke from a 100 drafted tight end yeah i think it's like etr optimal rates are crazy yeah yeah um last season after jacoby brissett took over they played at seattle and he went nine for 127 and one so the people that want to come out with the we can't play him against seattle's defense what if they're one of the best in the nfc uh he did it last year and he went full nuke on that slate uh we're gonna make this pick but pete i'm i don't know if you've seen the br ranks on uh easy tr but who do you think is second in tight and optimal rate oh i have not i mean i have them pulled up now but i didn't look at the optimal rate um i'm gonna guess it's not loveland you mentioned that they have a hard-on for mark andrews at mark and yeah it is wow um do we need a running back here i was about to say yeah we could take a running back sure bucky let's do bucky you want to do bucky yeah i've been doing it i've been doing a ton of bucky he's literally building out the team that i build out every time in his in his one bullet here it's so good so it's almost like we we wrote a course on how to play the games and then kind of aligned on all of our all of our thinkings um would you go ahead pete please no i just say where i want to get us is to this jayden and mclaurin stack so then it's whatever is the other path our second running back whether we need to get him now or we lock up the the stack doesn't matter to me whatever if if the thesis of the play is is jayden plus mclaurin and you don't care about having a dallas piece i think we just push running back and we're going to get him and we're going to get him and we're going to get him and we're then we can do a double scroll thing yeah i don't care about the dallas piece with that yeah i was what i was going to ask you pete is if you were like in these streets do you think that you would be taking a lot of hn i think this is like a interesting spot for him where i mean i don't i'm not playing it because i i'm a little worried about what the niners did to a jet-lagged rams team and uh and everything but yeah he projects really well yeah that's a it's a tough spot too because he falls into that range right he's going to be 100 drafted um i mean even looking at projection like he has the same ceiling projection as romandre um pretty much same ceiling projection projection as aaron jones and david montgomery so he does kind of fall into that that bad purgatory zone where he's not really separating from the scroll down guys if that game gets a little fun and miami can hold serve like he could be this week's genti though like just like raw talent angle uh i do think that the san francisco defense is way better but i got a couple romandre or sorry i got a couple uh hn pick'ems going right now and i have a higher on the 13 and a half longest rush like i thought that was just way too low a number for him um david montgomery continues to fall chris alaves here with the q tag but we're gonna go ahead and lock up scary terry f1 yeah let's do terry and then we can figure out which running back you want to go ahead and lock up scary terry f1 yeah let's do terry f1 yeah let's do terry and then we can figure out which running back you want to play here yeah anyone gonna play uh three wide receiver week at all and get away from some of these scrolls or have we just learned our lesson now i probably won't be yeah i haven't done one yet so i think if i did do it it would be a spit so like say we took cd instead of mcbride and you you want to set up like a jayden terry cd type thing um and you have a third uh yeah i like i like these breeze i mean i think this team's pretty unique that you can jam a top play breeze is probably pretty good yeah breeze or hampton i'm breeze breeze yeah all right breeze it is i mean that's another spot right well i guess they they project for pretty much the same but hampton it's going to be a little higher drafted breeze what adp 33.9 that's probably like 50 to 60 draft rate yeah i'd say like 50 50 yeah yeah yeah i was doing the math in my head yeah i'd say 50 there's a lot of guys that look look nice here like aaron jones is is catching a lot of steam i think his adp is actually is continuing to rise um yeah you got hampton over him uh people still like chase brown uh yeah it's it there's there's a lot of options there so i because i just you kind of brought up the three wide receiver thing i think you know maybe sometimes a three wide receiver team will like win the br but i think that you just take the fact that there are still people drafting three wide receiver teams are just like a leak by the field and then just like never and just never do it because i i i straight up just like do not do it unless it's by accident and i try to set position limits so so i don't do it because i don't want to do it i don't think it's good i think the only time i would do it is if i i'm able to land one of like the big six i guess on a roster big five so if i started with like jefferson at four you get lamb to fall and then you get pickens to fall and you do the double or if you somehow got chase early in the week because chase was pretty buried early in the week i think i would have been fine with that but it would only be from like a unique combo angle i think and some of those big tail right tail guys yeah yeah it does take a very specific instance and i and i do think it's generally kind of getting into um a game stack again there where that that final wide receiver is you know if you were playing the pocket passer like you know i think golf's not on this slate but i think there were times where it's like oh you know you tack on golf to or a jmo to a golf almond raw type thing where it's like you need it to be hyper concentrated you need the big game total you need the value like i just feel like you need a lot of things to be able to do that so i think it's kind of like a game stack again things to line up to even justify it um but yeah i don't think you're way more likely to have a leak over drafting three wide receiver teams than you are under drafting them like maybe if you draft a 150 you're supposed to have like three or four in there and if you have zero like i think that's probably way less of an issue than having 20 in there yeah uh kind of thing i i i like the um i like what awin's spitting in the chat as well like post week four when we start mixing in the guys when we got more of the primetime games when we get down to like these eight nine ten game main slates then it makes a little bit more sense and then it obviously makes a ton of sense in the primetime paloozas and the shorter slate dynamics of like the earlies and lates there but yeah in a vacuum i think how you broke it down is right there pete um we go over that contrarian skinny stack with jayden daniels and terry mclaurin there we get bucky irving bruce hall justin jefferson and actually no longer trey mcduck trey mcgrock through and through now yeah he's uh he's elevated he's elevated um yeah all right let's see here what do you guys want to do you want to do a small field or you want to get to uh some pickems what do you want to do a 12 person what do you want to do let's do let's do let's do a debom so i can actually cash something this week did you break last week in spectacular fashion baker doubles baby baker doubles with uh bucky and uh igbuka for the leverage i was with you on that that was uh yeah i had the uh the baker double and it uh it did not hit my exposures were beautiful last week i i did see nez at the top of the leaderboard on uh on the portfolio review yeah yeah a nice little uh third place in in the bond there we we love that it's a nice it was a nice start to the season for sure my friends at the solver have boxed me out for the hundred dollar price point you hate to see it what is it you need to hit up galan about this dude he will change this oh john has like his promo version is the like the the lower tier yeah it's embarrassing you need to hit them up we're both we're we're all three of us are solver partners we gave it to show it oh my god hilarious dude well he and john's now literally an etr employee so i mean i know bare knuckles here well what can can the streamer bros hang let's find out right got some got a soft room here thank god you got rohan chris uh uh rk seal tyler yeah soft room here fire starter was in our previous one and and was showing off did a wentz team oh okay fire starter say what's up say what's up apologies for not knowing your game yeah incredible uh we roll the 106 here with all the sickos i did i did i did say your name it took me like two years to figure out that it's not uh i don't know what i was calling tyler before um no it throws you off and yeah i was calling tealer i think yeah yeah speaking of teal i'm i was in new orleans last weekend for a bachelor party and uh one of my buddies and i went and played at uh formerly harrows over at caesars yeah we had these two guys next to us at a blackjack table three actually they were hilarious college kids freshly 21 like you got to go to the tailgate tomorrow we're gonna get blackout drunk and get there go to the two two lane uh big teal game against southern alabama hilarious guys um what do you guys think should we run back the exact same team we just i know right i mean we're in the same freaking spot you want to do genti this time or barkley no let's get into your barkley no you lit a hundred of my dollars on fire yesterday with jackson haas i'm making the call here oh man he would have saved you he would have min cash baby you would not have been cash with just dawson knox that team was doa let me update the time stamp drafting a justin jefferson trey mcbride team drafting a justin jefferson trey mcbride team you're gonna glitch the video yeah i i mean the rng gods put us in this position now we can we can have fun we can do um we can do bill instead of breese hall and just go all in on the commanders on this one let's do it yeah that's fun i have like i don't know why i'm so like anti barkley this is probably one of the better spots he's ever going to be in um this week against the titans uh yeah i i feel like i need to correct that i don't have very much yeah it does seem like a big spot for him i know i mean the second second best run stopper in the on the other side other than vita vey with uh uh simmons right i know simmons so yeah uh i yeah i mean a preview of my core is a uh lower 1.5 receptions on sake look at john come and did his homework i love it i was looking at lower on the passing volume on that game as well. after reading Karain's walkthrough and seeing how. I mean, I could tell from the box scores, but they did not drop back at all. Brandon just messaged me. He's like, you don't have the high-limits sub, bro? Yeah, please. Hopefully you can refresh and we can. I'm lost without seeing EZ's thumb on these players. I didn't have the heart to bother him. Hey, there we go. Look at that. Wow. The boys work fast over at the Sun. Elite customer service. While you're at it, can you give me access to the S-words for Redacted as well, please? Also, while you're at it, can you get me access to drafting these fucking teams in the States? To what limit is your powers? Dude, what do you guys think about doing the. Do you guys actually want to. Can we do the Baker double this time instead? Is Bucky included? Yeah. Yeah, if you include Bucky, yeah, not the wide receivers. You don't want Igbuka? No, no. I mean, I don't want to do two wide receivers when you said Bucky double or a Baker double. My mind went to two pass catchers. Oh, I see. So do you want to. Do you want to take Igbuka now? Yeah, we can either do that or we can do the Jaden skinny. No, let's. No, you called it. Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah, and there's no running back that I think that we got to like, you know, take ahead of Igbuka. So yeah, let's do this. Yeah, it's only. I like this play. Swift with the game environment, but. At home, you know, off a loss, revenge game. I mean, like, I don't know how much of revenge is in Baker's heart over the Browns. Maybe there's more than I think, but he's sort of a vindictive guy. So maybe there is some. Oh, yeah, he is, dude. Oh, for sure. There's like. There's just certain dudes in this world that, like, you can't quantify the clutch gene and you just don't bet against the dog in them. And, like, he's in that category, you know? Mm-hmm. He's in the Gardner Minshew breaks his own hand so he can get an extra year of eligibility category. Thoughts on Jalen McMillan? I mean, interesting if he plays. He's not. He's not relevant. He's not an underdog this week, but, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what. I haven't even looked at his salaries elsewhere. I like him for the season, but I don't know that I'm going to be getting to him for Sunday. Yeah. Yeah, just don't have to get down into those plays. Matt, we got some fun plays in this one. Firestarters going to the digs. We get the double 1% owned. Rome and Addison together. Have to do that. Holy smokes. I mean, this is. The people are showing off, baby. All right, who's the running back? What do we have here? Swift and Aaron Jones by projection. Swift makes sense off of the Jefferson stuff. Do the Bill thing. Yeah, do the one-off Bill if you're not doing the Jaden. There we go. All right. One-off Bill. And then we can get the Baker double. Baker doubles, man. The bomb. The bomb Baker doubles from Roto Run. A story as old as time right there. I love it. One of these days he'll retire and save you some money. That is the thesis. I need him and TJ McConnell and Tony Pollard to retire, please. All right. There it is. A couple of teams for you. 100% on-stream exposure to Justin Jefferson, Trey McBride, and Bucky. Irving, those are the locks of the week. But now it's time to figure out what are the locks in our pick-em. Pick-em, spicy marg. Spicy marg. Radioactive spice. Let's spice it up. Slop it up. Slop it up. I mean, permission to slide, your honor. You sliders. That's a 65X. That makes me feel tough. Permission to not pick a guy who has zero fantasy points this week. Coming off of the Colston. Loveland core tout. Can we do better this week? I'm talking to myself. Hey, man. He ran a lot of routes. Yeah, we all liked that game. We all liked that game. All right. Let's do it. Let's start with the core before we get wild here. What do you guys want? I do have one. It is one that I did yesterday on-stream, but I keep staring at it, and I still love it. Why don't one of you guys kick us off, John? You said you had one. Yeah, I got this Saquon lower on the receptions. We played certain game environments of the opposite angle of it last year. I just think this is a game where they get up ahead, and he's just not needed. If this doesn't happen in the first half or in the first two or three series, I don't think it's going to be needed that he's going to be much of the pass-catching game. And we saw a lot of Shipley last week, which was kind of discouraging just for Saquon as a whole. Yeah, I don't know. They could go back to full bell cow this week. Maybe it's a little too much of a fancy play syndrome, but with the multiplier, I'm kind of in on it. All right. Nez, what do you got? Yeah, I like that shout, John. I'm rocking with Christian McCaffrey higher here against the Miami Dolphins. I like his rushing yards, man. It's 57 and a half. And I think everyone's a little spooked of the workload for CM. See, because Kalen Black was so involved, he did pop up on the injury report. Kalen Black did. I haven't seen the latest on that, if he's, like, good to go or not. So I'm assuming he's OK. But just to say, I mean, he popped up with a groin injury, and they clearly valued this guy. They used him a ton week one. However, I thought CMC looked good, dude. I thought he looked pretty damn good. And I think that 57 and a half is really going to be, like, no big deal for him. He should have a ton of efficiency. His rushing attempts. That 14 and a half. I mean, that's, like, this isn't even four yards per carry if he hits that. You know? Like, this is, I really think they're going to have no problem with this Miami team. This is honestly just going to, like, they need to, like, mercy rule this game here, I think. It's just not even going to be, it's just not even going to be fair. I like it. Yeah, Nia, the Kalen Black stuff being up in the air should work in our favor there. I want to go to Matt. I want to go to Matthew Golden. I just think this is, like, the week before things really adjust on his role. Let me see if you're seeing the similar stuff as me. I mean, three and a half receptions is just way too low. But I also think you can play the receiving yards if you don't want to take the dock there. I'll let you guys decide between receptions and receiving yards. If we play the receptions angle because we played the Barkley one, it comes out that we're still over 6X for the core. So if you think it's a better play, just take it. Take it as the better play. But I'm good with either of them. Obviously, in our mind, we think of Matthew Golden as a little bit of a deeper ADOT guy. But that might not be the truth anymore with this newfound, amazing utilization report we saw from him in week one. Yeah, 12 targets last week, 6 for 95, obviously clears both of these. I think I actually might like the receiving yards. I think it just gives us a little bit more wiggle room. I will say. I think if he's hitting the receptions, like he's like hitting the receiving yards. I think he hits the receiving yards before he hits the receptions. And really impressive usage, I think, off the rip for for Golden. And while that could have been schemed up because of how much pressure was there and they were just like, OK, like we're going to we're going to hit Golden quick because they they really did not have a lot of time to throw. I actually think it's going to allow better things to develop for Golden because I can't imagine the Jets get as much. Pressure on Jordan Love as the Vikings did just because they're going to blitz so much less, even though the Vikings or the the Packers line line is, I believe, a little banged up. But yeah, regardless, I like I like this one, man. I think Golden looked looked great week one. So there you go. Barkley lower one and a half reception CMC higher 57 and a half rush yards. Matthew Golden higher 49 and a half receiving yards. That is your often on the clock core. But now do we want? Do we want to get a little bit more wild? Yeah. Pete, can you relay that one to the chat for us, please? Because I can't drop a link and make sure you guys use that move the chains boost. Check it out on mobile, too, in case you don't see it on the desktop version right now, because a lot of people got that move the chains one. Beautiful. OK, what do you guys think about a game environment one? Oh, yeah, let's try that. Yeah, we have. We haven't done that in a while. Yeah. OK, get back. I think I think based on our drafting frequency here that we went to Justin Jefferson multiple times, this new expanded role potentially for Aaron Jones as well. I think we kind of want to go back to this Bears and Vikings game. Thoughts? Love it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I want to do this. Tyler is just he's he said slide Rome. light ass and call it a day. He just wants to get us the hell out of here. He's got some, I mean, honestly, I'm pretty down with that. I'm pretty down with that. But the two that are popping on, uh, the unabated stuff was Justin Jefferson receptions. And you're getting a little bit of a, a multiplier boost and Aaron Jones receptions as well at 2.5. So those were the two that I had circled. Um, but if you guys want to do the slides, if you guys want to do other stuff, I'm open to it. What is that? What is the good Pete? No. What do you have the receptions at? Uh, 2.5 for Aaron Jones and 6.5 for Justin Jefferson. I mean, I do like the, the sliding, the Jefferson stuff. Um, but I'm also good just playing the straight receptions. If you like that, I think this game is so fun. We just do one with like the base and then we can, uh, then do like a, all right, let's let, let's go heart of hearts and then, and then slide this, this thing up. Let's find some bears to play on the other side of this. Uh, and then, and then we can, we can, we can, we can really get, get crazy. Okay. What would be a good bear suggestion? I think, um, just saying it doesn't look like it's going to dock you that much. If you just do Caleb Williams fantasy points and just kind of center around him, either rushing or throwing, he just is. He, it, it's all about Caleb. So I, I don't like doing that. Uh, and if you want, we can just kind of call it here and then, and then we can, can have some fun with some slides. Okay. So let's do this as like a, a really, uh, tapered and measured. Uh, dang. I was hoping there's another move. The chains one. Okay. If you refresh, there should be. Oh, I already did. That's, that's, that's like the whole thing is like you use the boost and then you get another boost. Yeah. Hold on. Let me see. You might be done. Two days left. One left. Yeah. Let's see here. Hold on. See if I can do this. Cause now you get, you get up to that 50% or right. There we go. So the first one was 40. The second one is 50. Drop that in the private chat for everybody. And I think it ends at 50. So if you guys have any use that it's, you use the boost and then it gets bigger and bigger until it gets a 50%. Okay. So I ran it. I ran it without the boost. Visible puts unlimited 5g data and hotspot in the palm of your hand. Powered by Verizon's 5g network with no contract holding you back. And for a limited time, you can get visible for just $19 a month for 12 months. When you use promo code save six, all the features of big wireless service for half the cost. Tap the banner to switch today. Terms apply. Standard rate applies at month 13. See visible.com for plan features and network management details. You can't cancel it. We ran it twice. Okay. Now let's go back to that same game and you guys want to do the slides. You guys take the reins for the, for the, for the slides here. I mean, I like Rome and Addison on the Tyler suggestion, like around the 70 yard range. Okay. So Rome. Dude, did you guys see Rome? Did you guys see Rome? Did you guys catch last week where he just lost the hell? Oh yeah. Back was turned. Well, that's the, that catch sparked a massive PFF grading controversy essentially, because what that, that was one of the throws that got graded very poorly by PFF for Caleb. And they had them as like QB 20 from PFF rating on the week. And then everyone lost their mind about it. Oh, I see. I did not notice that. Yeah. I love how Tyler loves my, he goes at a guy PD was literally your suggestion in the chat. So, I make sense that you'd like it. Actually, speaking of the chat, can you, can you add that second one to the chat for us? Yes, yes, yes. Thank you. All right. This is the, the Minnesota and bears one, but measured, if you will. Oh, let me cash it out for two bucks. Cause I missed the cancel. There you go. That's how they over. Yeah. So you get Rome to 69, half do do Addison 69 and a half. And then you, what does this pay out for you guys here? I guess as to 16.2 X with no chain movers left. Okay. Do you want to ride this just as a twofer or add something? Yes. No, I like this. I like this. I think we just leave this as is. And then, yeah, if we want to go to different games and, you know, we just did this, slop it up. You know, get some slides in. Yeah. We haven't, we haven't slopped it up yet this season. Yeah. Is there a slop it up candidate that you think is on the table here? So, I mean, I kind of was in on like thinking that people will think it's a slop, but it might be better than that with that Steelers and Patriots one. Like if we do like DK and Fryer Muth and then Matt Drake may on the other side or something. That's fine. Yeah. Let's do that. It's, it's only a 42 total. People probably stay away from the game environment in general. So it, it gets them a little action in that game. I think we're going to have trouble with that though, because the, the, the Pittman stuff, maybe I'm wrong. Okay. Nevermind. It's just me. You're good. I didn't get, I didn't get may. Let's see. I'll do it by player. Yeah, no, we're only getting Warren. Oh, we don't get any DK. Stuff. No, that makes it a little less fun. Yeah. Cause he's kind of like the top off guy that makes it fun. That the way you could play it would be like catch up mode. So like Warren receptions, prior Muth receptions, and then through Drake may like multiple touchdowns or something, but that's not nearly as fun. I mean, the, the fun, like slop it up. I mean, would probably be green Bay in New York jets. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Cause you get, you get concentration with the, um, with the jets. You could also play 80 Mitchell as the big play guy to speed it up, like opposite golden or Watson. Um, but that one seems fun to me. Okay. Adonai has a 34 and a half. We could do longest reception or we could scroll the receiving yards a little bit. Um, like if you didn't want to do Mitchell, like you could slide Garrett Wilson receptions or play like big play Mitchell yards. What's Garrett Wilson's reception. Let's see what Garrett's at five and a half. We could take it to nine to eight and a half. Right. Firm. Yeah. Okay. I like that angle. Okay. Get out. I think good. That dude is because we just don't force ourselves to watch a ton of jets football and he doesn't get the Island games like other teams do. And then I mean, I definitely go back to a golden slide or Watson, but the golden stuff is where I think there's a little more value. Yeah. I think there's a little more value. You want to send them up to like 99 or close to 99. Now this is, now we're feeling things. It's a 50 X or yeah. Oh, yeah. 54.6 XR. And it's, it's not even that crazy, bro. Just send it. It's not even that crazy, bro. Just send it. This is paying for, this is paying for Tucker's new haircut today. That's what he's getting right now. Um, this is a fun one from Josh. Josh has always dialed in with his stuff. He likes Baker. Uh, any touchdown Bucky receptions, Denzel longest receptions, the sloppiest of slop. I'm down to look at this one. I was going to mention this game too. I was, I had this game in mind. I will say, um, I'm, I'm, I'm on this Baker. Anytime TD. Yeah. So I wonder what the best way to play anytime would be for us. Um, you have rush. Yeah, there it is. You have it. Rush receiving right there. Yeah. Same thing. Okay. Um, Bucky receptions. Let's see what you guys say to that. That's really good. I hope it's four and a half. Dude. Oh my God. It's two and a half. We're rich. And you're getting, yeah. And you're getting an extra multiplier on it. Yeah. We're rich. That, that should be in the core. Let's play this two ways. Let's do the Josh. And then I just want to add one more to, to this. If you get, if you can stomach it, I would just like to add one more play to what we have on this. Okay. So Denzel Boston longest reception higher. Yeah. I played at three with, with these, these three, like the straight up suggestion. Cause you know, I want to respect our goat here. And, and then I just want to add, I don't do it one more time and then add like Casey concepts, your own receptions to it. What do you have it paying out at right now for this? 18, 18. Yeah. And then Casey concept shown three and a half there. Yeah. Just like base. I'm not even trying to slide it. Cause this is like almost 40 X. Yeah. 36.9. if you add that in there. the slop it up great suggestion from both you guys because that was the slop it up of the of the west of the nice yeah week for sure appreciate you josh broski i used to play really good pitcher that i grew up with his last name was dembroski he was nails he was our ace for like our senior year okay let me see here what so i had in the chat um the first three this fourth one was now i'm forgetting what did we do it was wilson and um i can't remember the other side of that game was oh golden golden golden oh yeah golden slide yeah and then i'm getting these in the chat also i'll put these in in the show notes and in the description if you guys are listening back on audio uh or on youtube i'll make sure all of these are in here and then we have brown slop part one this is the three-parter compliments of josh and then we're gonna have brown slop part two here let me make sure these are all in the chat as well for the crew there we go all right sweet we are locked up here do we want to do are we cooking one more here john yeah i got one more that i was just cooking based on really liking that bucky three and a half i just another one of the things i was running this morning was the hn receptions and or uh hn um uh longest rush i actually prefer longest rush let me actually what can you what can you slide can you slide him are you just playing uh i was just playing this as like a nice conservative play for friends and family but yeah you can slide that hn longest rush to like 30 yards for like 6x yeah what do you have it at 13 and a half okay yeah and then what was the other one the aaron jones yeah like let's be real if he breaks one he breaks one so there we go what did you slide it to 29 and a half there you go 30 yard run for devon why not there you go i think that bucky one sharp though i think the bucky one sharp yeah i think that bucky one sharp though i think the yeah that's a good point yeah these feel great yeah um good stuff guys let them know uh your schedule if you guys are not subscribed to the badge bros have you not seen john is out here scheduling a show did you have one did you have a show every day this week john yeah we had multiple every day this week i think we ended up having uh almost nine shows this week i think something like that but covered all the damn sports man we covered uh covered puck yeah i think we ended up having uh almost nine shows this week i think something like that but covered uh covered puck yeah i think we ended up having uh almost nine shows this week i think something like that but covered all the damn sports man we covered uh covered puck yesterday um selfishly needed to get prepared uh tonight is one of my favorite uh bro nights before our season starts for actual hockey we have a round of golf in the evening and then we do a fantasy hockey draft together and then we play our first game tomorrow so like it's kind of like a a thing so i had to have matt moody on to selfishly prepare for puck draft season did a double dribble on wednesday uh with nez did mlb playoffs on wednesday with nez we got more main slate br content on tuesdays we're doing that behind the paywall this year um and then thursday we do the primetime palooza and monday we do the primetime palooza plus uh weekend recap there so uh yeah all that will be scheduled probably sunday morning so you guys will be locked and loaded for next week and then uh next weekend i should be back in the saddle to do some no strips uh busy weekend for me unfortunately i got date night tonight game night with some friends tomorrow first time we've had a game night over here kind of nervous uh so we'll we'll see how it goes dude board games board game board games can stress me out a little bit man here's some hardcore board gamers and you know i just don't want to you know i'm i'm i'm trying i gotta learn gto right away i don't want to play bad i'm trying to be sweaty so i'm nervous i love i'm just i'm just impressed with your social calendar last week bachelor party into the underdog uh cowboys watch party rolling right into date night followed by game night i mean look at no one would ever know you have a kid with this lifestyle i i don't i don't even see him what what kid where is he anyways i thought you said i haven't seen him in four days now um yeah they want to know what what are you playing i do these these these people uh they uh they like to play these like very unique style games i think what we're playing is like a role-playing game and i think this is going dude i know this is not a quick easy game like can we just play can we play code names like it shows up with yahtzee like hey we we're we're i think we're gonna be doing like a campaign or something so wish me luck this might be a multi a multi-part thing there you go uh yes we will we will be praying for you uh i'm going to have uh after dark tomorrow with sam brought uh from etr have never uh done a show with him so excited to uh to talk some sims talk some dfs with him sunday we'll have the cram uh had a very fun cram show for week one excited to run that back with you guys shout out to the cram crew all over bryce young the most popular quarterback by far and you guys nailed it so i will be paying close attention to what you guys have for me on sunday otherwise appreciate everybody who was hanging out today for dfs fridays great show with jm yuda leone and john and i'll see you guys next week in nez good luck this weekend i'll see you saturday and sunday for the premium shows otherwise i'll catch you monday on the portfolio review where i can't get knocked out from the guillotine league because i've already been knocked out so nez you better go on and win this damn thing after all of that we will see you guys next time for off and on the clock peace

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The FanDuel platform is available nationwide, allowing users to engage in sports betting regardless of location.
  2. Week two of the GPP slate features high-scoring matchups, including a closely watched Cowboys vs. Washington game with a 50.5-point total.
  3. A key strategic focus is on the Bears–Panthers game, where aggressive offensive styles and high scoring potential create a mathematically strong build opportunity.
  4. Analysts highlight the value of unique roster combinations—such as Tucker Craft and Colston Loveland—due to low ownership and high upside potential.
  5. Quarterback decisions center on Caleb Williams, Dak Prescott, and Brock Purdy, with strong emphasis on matchup analysis and offensive aggressiveness.
  6. Running back play is evaluated with attention to workload, injury risks, and historical performance, with Bijan Robinson and Derek Henry as top-tier options.
  7. Wide receivers like Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, and McLaurin are assessed for value, with a strong case made for underpriced, high-ceiling plays.
  8. The primary goal remains securing first-place finishes in tournaments, prioritizing ceiling potential over floor stability and avoiding overreliance on popular plays.

Summary:

The fan discussion centers on Week Two of the GPP season, emphasizing strategic roster building around high-scoring matchups like the Cowboys vs. Washington game and the Bears–Panthers matchup. Analysts highlight the mathematical appeal of these games and the potential for breakout performances, especially in aggressive offensive environments.

A key insight is the value of unique player combinations—such as Tucker Craft and Colston Loveland—due to low ownership and high upside. Quarterback decisions are driven by matchup analysis, with Caleb Williams, Dak Prescott, and Brock Purdy under scrutiny for their offensive dynamics and game environments. Running back options are evaluated for workload and injury risks, with Bijan Robinson and Derek Henry standing out.

Wide receivers like Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase are considered solid but not essential, while underpriced players like McLaurin and Diggs are promoted as high-value, low-ownership plays. The overarching strategy prioritizes first-place tournament finishes through ceiling-focused, non-conventional builds rather than chasing popularity. Weather forecasts and player health are noted as situational factors, with players like Aaron Jones and Javante Williams being evaluated for their role in specific game environments.

Ultimately, the analysis emphasizes adaptability, value stacking, and exploiting market inefficiencies to gain a competitive edge in DFS.

FAQs

Yes, FanDuel is now available everywhere in the U.S., allowing users to access sports action regardless of location.

Age and location restrictions apply. Product availability varies by market. Check FanDuel.com for specific eligibility details.

If you have a gambling problem, contact the National Gambling Helpline at 1-800-GAMBLER for support and resources.

The show focuses on analyzing key matchups, including the Cowboys vs. Dallas and Chicago vs. Minnesota games, and evaluates quarterback and wide receiver strategies.

Yes, the Washington vs. Dallas game is highlighted as a mathematically strong and sharp play due to its high scoring potential and unique matchup dynamics.

Yes, players like Travis Kelce, CeeDee Lamb, and wide receivers like Cooper Rush and McConkey are considered underpriced and valuable, especially when played in unique combinations.

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